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Title: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on September 30, 2010, 10:23:45 AM
I think Velorath had the idea for this thread a while back, but I'll go ahead and do it.  Not everything should have it's own thread I suppose.

Beyond Good and Evil getting an HD remake.  (http://au.xboxlive.ign.com/articles/112/1124445p1.html?RSSwhen2010-09-30_090000&RSSid=1124445&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+ignfeeds/xboxlive+%28IGN+Xbox+Live%29)

This is great.  I've been wanting to replay and finally finish this game but didn't feel like hooking up my Gamecube, buying a wireless GC controller for the Wii, or using keyboard & mouse for the Steam version (has no gamepad support).  Great game that just oozes style.  Also has one of my favorite soundtracks.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: stu on September 30, 2010, 10:53:29 AM
That's good news since I missed it the first time, but was always curious.  I'm looking forward to replaying Stranger's Wrath in HD too.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Tarami on September 30, 2010, 11:07:03 AM
I played it a few years ago, but I never got what was so good about it. Bad? Not at all. But somehow deserving of a cult following? Not really. Some parts are really obnoxious.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Morfiend on September 30, 2010, 12:46:00 PM
I enjoyed the hell out of it. Will I buy a HD version? Maybe. Depending on price. I'm glad they are doing this though. Very underrated game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on September 30, 2010, 01:46:37 PM
I played it a few years ago, but I never got what was so good about it. Bad? Not at all. But somehow deserving of a cult following? Not really. Some parts are really obnoxious.

Heh, I'd say most games with a cult following have their obnoxious parts.  Some of the encounters (at least one chase and stealth sequence) I remember as a source of frustration.  I just remember it being a very unique and stylish game.  I had a lot of fun, but don't really remember why I ended up putting it down before I finished it.   Maybe I did finish.. I'm getting old.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: NiX on September 30, 2010, 01:55:26 PM
Wasn't the reason it got such a following was because it was a decent/good game that was doomed to never have a sequel right after launch?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on September 30, 2010, 02:10:49 PM
Supposedly a sequel is still being worked on.

In other news, the 3DS has been announced for a Feb. 26th launch in Japan and a March release for U.S. and Europe.  So far the only price that has been announced is for Japan, at 25000 yen (around $300), which is a little bit pricey.  I'm not generally interested in handhelds, but I hope they get some demo units in stores since I'm curious to see what the 3D is like (plus Nintendo really needs to get them out there for marketing since you can't really just put game trailers up online for games with a heavy 3D emphasis).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 01, 2010, 08:22:21 AM
Not everything should have it's own thread I suppose.

Very true.  Is this mostly for Game News that's too niche for the general rabble?  Want to get a handle on the intent before I begin to do my "thing".


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on October 02, 2010, 02:44:28 PM
Not everything should have it's own thread I suppose.

Very true.  Is this mostly for Game News that's too niche for the general rabble?  Want to get a handle on the intent before I begin to do my "thing".

Too niche works.  General intent was for stuff that doesn't generate enough noise on it's own to warrant its own thread.

Vel said it pretty well in another thread:

Quote from: Velorath
Personally I'd love to have a "useless gaming conversation" thread to just throw random news into that maybe doesn't need it's own thread, or to talk about stuff that might not fit into the "what are you playing" thread.  Sort of like what noisegrid was like, but without having to go to a different site, and deal with all the tag stuff.

Go nuts.  Just not Shockeye nuts.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: UnSub on October 03, 2010, 07:52:16 AM
I played it a few years ago, but I never got what was so good about it. Bad? Not at all. But somehow deserving of a cult following? Not really. Some parts are really obnoxious.

Agreed. I bought it expecting something incredible, but instead found a passable title with a few good strokes.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on October 06, 2010, 02:10:32 PM
Toys R Us will be running its annual Buy 2 Get 1 Free deal from the 10th to the 16th.  Medal of Honor is the only big release in that period, although Dead Rising 2, Castlevania: Lords of Shadow, NBA2K11, FIFA 11, and Enslaved: Odyssey to the West have all gotten decent reviews.  Not sure if this deal is running outside the U.S..

Panasonic recently announced that they are getting into the handheld gaming market. (http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/10/04/exclusive-panasonic-jumps-back-into-gaming-with-a-new-android-powered-handheld-the-jungle/)  Apparently a decade and a half was all it took for them to get the failure of the 3DO out of their heads.  Here's the short debut video. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM5kqH9PD6I)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 06, 2010, 03:50:33 PM
Demon's Souls is Atlus's best-selling game ever. To celebrate there will be Pure White tendency Oct 7 & 18 with the rest of the month being Pure Black.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: stu on October 06, 2010, 04:36:08 PM
 :heart:

Playing a female thief right now. Maybe my favorite yet. Daggers rock.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bunk on October 07, 2010, 06:29:28 AM
Fable 3 launches in three weeks and I appear to be the only person who cares. I went in to Gamestop to get a preorder, asked for the deluxe version. The lady looked at me and said that they haven't been able to take preorders for the deluxe version for over a month. So she processes a preorder for the normal version.

I'm a little confused by all of this, until I look at the reciept and realize she thought I asked for the Fallout deluxe version. I explain to her that I asked for Fable - "Oh, that game. Oh yea, you can get a deluxe preorder on that one, no problem". I believe she then rolled her eyes slightly.

When I was at PAX, the average wait to play a hands-on demo of any given game was 30 mins to 2 hours. I walked up to where they had Fable 3 running, looked around and asked someone "where's the lineup for Fable 3"? He advised me that he was the line. Five minutes later I was playing the game.

Oh well, at least I'll enjoy it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on October 07, 2010, 06:36:27 AM

Fable 3 launches in three weeks and I appear to be the only person who cares. I went in to Gamestop to get a preorder, asked for the deluxe version. The lady looked at me and said that they haven't been able to take preorders for the deluxe version for over a month. So she processes a preorder for the normal version.

I'm a little confused by all of this, until I look at the reciept and realize she thought I asked for the Fallout deluxe version. I explain to her that I asked for Fable - "Oh, that game. Oh yea, you can get a deluxe preorder on that one, no problem". I believe she then rolled her eyes slightly.

When I was at PAX, the average wait to play a hands-on demo of any given game was 30 mins to 2 hours. I walked up to where they had Fable 3 running, looked around and asked someone "where's the lineup for Fable 3"? He advised me that he was the line. Five minutes later I was playing the game.

Oh well, at least I'll enjoy it.

I'll be on Fable 3 like stink on shit. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: NiX on October 07, 2010, 06:40:32 AM
Fable 3 launches in three weeks and I appear to be the only person who cares.

I hope you're not surprised by this. Given Molyneux's track record it's a given people would be hesitant about Fable 3 living up to anything he says. That being said, I'll be playing it because I hold out hope for this kingdom running segment. If he screws that up or it's an after thought, I'll probably never believe a damn thing that man says ever again.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on October 07, 2010, 07:19:52 AM
I don't xbox, but I'll play Fable 3 on PC if they release Fable 2 on PC.  Which is not likely to happen.  Though, I had fun with 1.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: PkProjects on October 07, 2010, 11:18:31 AM
It's been so long between fable 1 and 2, and now they're releasing 3 shortly after. I can hardly imagine this game having a that much improved gameplay, look or different functions for that matter. I'll wait till it's released and get some reviews and gameplay vids before actually buying.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Segoris on October 07, 2010, 12:55:56 PM
What's that you say? You want to be a hero to the downtrodden but don't own a ps3/360? You wish to wear the thong of justice even with your gaming systems being limited to the pc? Steam has you covered, soon to be heroes!

Yeah, Deathspank coming to Steam in about 2 weeks, as well as another game called Shank which appears to be a side scrolling game along the same comedic lines as Deathspank. I don't know how good Shank will be, but for those that missed it...pick up Deathspank (most likely want to use a controller for it though as I don't think I'd want to play that with a kb/m).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on October 07, 2010, 01:25:50 PM
Fable 3 launches in three weeks and I appear to be the only person who cares.

Looking forward to Fable 3 as well - both of the others were greater than the sum of their (sometimes janky as hell) parts for me, despite not having as many parts as initially promised.  With Fallout New Vegas coming out the week before, it may have to wait a bit before I get to play it, though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on October 07, 2010, 01:31:17 PM
Silicon Knights announced their next game. (http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/65916)  Rather than a sequel to Eternal Darkness or Too Human, it looks like they're making an X-Men game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 07, 2010, 01:34:36 PM
I am not to be trusted to comment since I liked Too Human.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on October 07, 2010, 01:35:25 PM
Yah, that's the only thing that may keep me from being day 1 with Fable 3.  I had a lot of fun with both Fable games.  They're never going to make my all time list, but I had enough fun for about a play through and a half for each one (stalled out on my evil tries both times).

But with Fallout: NV.. it's Obsidian.  The chances of it requiring 200% more system than advertised and being a buggy shitpile are pretty high, especially with an engine that's somewhat of a pig already.  I'll be waiting at least a week if not more on New Vegas, despite my love for everything Fallout.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bunk on October 07, 2010, 02:28:33 PM
It's been so long between fable 1 and 2, and now they're releasing 3 shortly after. I can hardly imagine this game having a that much improved gameplay, look or different functions for that matter. I'll wait till it's released and get some reviews and gameplay vids before actually buying.

Based on what I played at PAX - noticibly improved graphics on the characters and a fully voiced main character are two of the major differences. They are also going on and on about how many of the interactions actualy involve physically interacting with the other "actor" rather than just dancing in front of them.

Oh, and aparently further improvements to the multiplayer options - to the point that you can marry and have kids with another player.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on October 07, 2010, 02:31:05 PM
Am I the only one who sees Fable slowly converging with Second Life?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on October 07, 2010, 02:43:41 PM


But with Fallout: NV.. it's Obsidian.  The chances of it requiring 200% more system than advertised and being a buggy shitpile are pretty high, especially with an engine that's somewhat of a pig already.  I'll be waiting at least a week if not more on New Vegas, despite my love for everything Fallout.

I promised myself to wait until the GOTY is out for it.  No matter how awesome it is...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Koyasha on October 07, 2010, 02:56:51 PM
I don't understand the lack of general interest in Fable 3.  I enjoyed 1 and 2, and 2 was vastly improved over 1.  Even if 3 is just a new story and otherwise pretty much the same as 2, worth it as far as I can tell, Fable 2 was a pretty good game (except for some of the minigame shit, but eh).  I mean, sure, it might not have lived up to whatever the hell it was that was promised (I didn't really pay much attention) but it was definitely a good game.  I've played through it at least 3 times.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on October 07, 2010, 03:08:08 PM
I found 1 bad enough that I wasn't interested in trying 2 or 3, personally.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on October 07, 2010, 03:14:10 PM
I liked Fable 2, just not enough to where I feel I need to pick up 3 right at release.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on October 07, 2010, 04:19:46 PM
I don't know if it'll be a day one purchase, but I'm looking forward to Fable 3 simply so I can play my daughter.  The one whose favorite location was the Temple of Evil and her favorite toy was a teddy bear. :heart:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ffc on October 07, 2010, 08:41:38 PM
Twice I tried to get into Fable and twice I failed.  I come in all smiles ready for action rpg goodies and the game ends up grating on me.  2's "co-op" was my final lesson and I have no desire for a threepeat.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bunk on October 08, 2010, 02:18:19 PM
I was so proud when I passed my evil and childish genes on to my first daughter. Her favorite thing was my evil laugh.

Then my son came. And he was moron who liked to eat chocolate. Not an evil bone in his body - I was so disappointed.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: patience on October 08, 2010, 03:55:27 PM
Someone throws down a list of their biggest concerns for companies or their business ventures that are going to fail  (http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/10/10-games-businesses-that-are-doomed/)(without a dramatic course correction) and collapse hard.

1. Codemasters
2. Miniclip
3. Shouldn't have bothered wasting a slot IMO
4. Virgin Gaming
5. Trion Worlds
6. OnLive
7. CCP's Dust 514
8. 38 Studios (the details about their shenanigan in this one ended up infuriating me slightly)
9. GAME (Boutique Retailers in general)
10. Kotick's Dream of Subscriptions for CoD

I kind of feel bad I haven't heard about a third of these companies till now especially Miniclip.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on October 09, 2010, 12:36:56 PM
The old X-Men arcade game is coming to XBLA and PSN with 6 player online co-op (http://www.1up.com/news/konami-x-men-arcade-game-coming).

Also... M.O.D.O.K. in Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/nycc-10-marvel-vs/705910).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on October 09, 2010, 12:41:53 PM
This is random, but does anyone know anything about Borderlands DLC?  I haven't bought any of it, and I'm gonna wait for a Steam sale (I know there was one recently, so it might be a while) either way, but I just reinstalled the game on a lark and am having fun with it again, so was wondering if any of the DLC adds a lot.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: lesion on October 09, 2010, 12:50:13 PM
Knoxx has a lot of fun stuff and an actual final boss worth a crap. It also has roads paved with misery. If you can get past minutes of travel time (one waypoint for the entire thing) it's probably the best of the bunch.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Furiously on October 09, 2010, 01:43:54 PM
Secret armory was supposed to be decent. Have not heard about the claptrap one. Zombies and the arenas one you can skip.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: funcro on October 09, 2010, 03:18:13 PM
Borderlands DLC adds SecuROM and a five installation limit.  On Steam I can't find a way to install Borderlands without also installing all the DLC I purchased, so now I can't even play the base game anymore.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on October 10, 2010, 01:52:27 AM
I bought the Borderlands DLC when it was on sale on Steam a short while back, but I was playing other stuff at the time.  Then I loaded it up again and had a lot of problems crashing (I had upgraded a few components of my PC since the last time I played).  After I got all that worked out, I hopped onto my lv. 45 character in the middle of the 2nd playthrough and couldn't remember what I was doing or where everything was since I hadn't played in months, and didn't know where to go for all the new content.  I fully intend to get around to it at some point.

I am not to be trusted to comment since I liked Too Human.

Hey, same here.  I'm a little disappointed it doesn't seem like they're making a sequel.  I think with a few minor tweaks, and if they hired some decent people to work on the story, they might have had something.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on October 10, 2010, 02:54:42 AM
This is random, but does anyone know anything about Borderlands DLC?  I haven't bought any of it, and I'm gonna wait for a Steam sale (I know there was one recently, so it might be a while) either way, but I just reinstalled the game on a lark and am having fun with it again, so was wondering if any of the DLC adds a lot.
I've played through the first three (well I haven't really finished the 2nd one yet).

In terms of gameplay I liked The Zombie Island of Dr. Ned the best. Mad Moxxi's Underdome Riot I used mostly just for the bank slots, though hacking your character with an editor is actually easier and more efficient than traveling back and forth to the bank. The Secret Armory of General Knoxx has the best loot but is fundamentally broken unless you can put in long play time sessions because there's only one respawn spot and travel distances are extremely long and tedious. Island of Dr. Ned actually has the same single respawn spot issue (apparently it's a limitation with the DLC code on the consoles) but it has a proper "hub and spoke" design with much shorter travel distances.

Both Island and Riot have seriously fucked up copy protection schemes. It literally took me hours to figure out how to get those two DLCs installed properly. Armory does not have that issue.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on October 10, 2010, 06:26:11 AM
Ned has a really amusing story, plus with it being near Halloween again feels seasonally appropriate.  The hordes of zombies you can face gets pretty fun.  Moxi's is only good if you liked the arena challenge later in the first game, really need the extra skill points, or you like absolutely insane pretty women with questionable fashion sense.  In Knoxx the travel sucks as everyone mentioned, but the shooting and critters are fun, and it ties in with the original pretty well.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shrike on October 10, 2010, 01:36:35 PM
Basically, what everyone else has said about Borderlands. Zombie Island is a must have. Dead Haven and the end area are just too cool for words, if you're in a zombie-shooting state of mind. Knoxx is good, but the travel is kinda of a pain. I'm sorta used to to from doing Armory runs. The Crimson Lance arena is huge fun for a group, and the so-called optional boss is  :ye_gods:. I haven't done much with the Robolution. Waiting for the new level cap and rebalancing before I tackle that one. I'd take a pass on Moxxi's unless you simply must have the bank or the 2 extra talent points (good luck on that second point...).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on October 13, 2010, 01:12:08 PM
Looks like Gran Turismo 5 got delayed again.   :heartbreak:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on October 13, 2010, 01:43:58 PM
Looks like Gran Turismo 5 got delayed again.   :heartbreak:

(http://i51.tinypic.com/9j0z9x.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 14, 2010, 07:08:30 AM
This is actually OK.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on October 14, 2010, 07:14:11 AM
Not like I had time to play this anyway until later.  Anyway, meh.  GT5 has taken so long to come out, I've sorta lost interest.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goreschach on October 14, 2010, 07:22:14 PM
Looks like Gran Turismo 5 got delayed again.   :heartbreak:

(http://i51.tinypic.com/9j0z9x.jpg)


Awesome.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Segoris on October 14, 2010, 07:34:56 PM
So there's a GOTY edition of Borderlands that comes with a bonus offer. The bonus?


Maybe it's just me, but I giggled thinking about how sad the empty promises from companies can really get.

In other news, dude runs sugar-momma of a girlfriend off the road when she takes away his Playstation. (http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/10/14/5290992-girl-takes-playstation-boy-runs-her-off-road)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on October 15, 2010, 06:38:34 AM
If you bought Borderlands on Steam and look on the DLC tab, you already have that access.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on October 15, 2010, 06:51:29 AM
I heard the team (100+ people??) that was doing Pirates of the Caribbean: Armada of the Damned was let go and the game is canned.  The premise of the game looked awesome and some of the screenies looked downright beautiful.  I was actually looking forward to seeing how that one did.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ard on October 15, 2010, 12:11:34 PM
Looks like Uncharted 2 is having a big multiplayer bonus day tomorrow.  x5 xp and a bonus skin.  Seems to be odd timing since the game of the year edition doesn't come out until next week. 

http://www.naughtydog.com/site/post/uncharted_2_one_year_anniversary_event_details/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on October 15, 2010, 12:52:19 PM
Fable 2 appears to be free for download at the moment (360 version).

http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/games/media/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d8024d5307f1/?p=1&of=6&bt=0&sb=1&did=00000001-0000-4000-8000-00004d5307f1


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on October 19, 2010, 08:42:34 AM
Sweet Jesus, a Professor Layton/Ace Attorney crossover game is in the works (http://layton-vs-gyakuten.jp/).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on October 20, 2010, 12:54:28 AM
Sweet Jesus, a Professor Layton/Ace Attorney crossover game is in the works (http://layton-vs-gyakuten.jp/).

Some fanfic writer out there somewhere just had a heart attack.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Xuri on October 20, 2010, 09:57:19 AM
Bloodline Champions Closed Beta Event (http://www.fileplanet.com/promotions/bloodline-champions/)

Fileplanet are giving away a limited amount of keys to the closed beta of Bloodline Champions (http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodline_Champions) (by Stunlock Studios, published by Funcom) today, though it does seem as if it currently requires a Fileplanet subscription to get a key...

Edit: Apparently non-subscribers will get access to keys later today.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 20, 2010, 11:44:18 AM
The Castlevania HD DLC is out, somehow I missed the drop-day.  I put 23 minutes into it today.  It's basically 400 points for Chapter 7: a new Egyptian map/boss and a new enemy (mummy).  Perhaps new items as well, I got two skull masks where before I had none, and one or two weapons I didn't have, but I haven't gotten TOO far into the grind on it.  For you Soma players, there are also quite a few Yoricks.  Lack of a new character is disappointing to some who were expecting it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on October 20, 2010, 12:03:20 PM
This is random, but does anyone know anything about Borderlands DLC?  I haven't bought any of it, and I'm gonna wait for a Steam sale (I know there was one recently, so it might be a while) either way, but I just reinstalled the game on a lark and am having fun with it again, so was wondering if any of the DLC adds a lot.
I've played through the first three (well I haven't really finished the 2nd one yet).

In terms of gameplay I liked The Zombie Island of Dr. Ned the best. Mad Moxxi's Underdome Riot I used mostly just for the bank slots, though hacking your character with an editor is actually easier and more efficient than traveling back and forth to the bank. The Secret Armory of General Knoxx has the best loot but is fundamentally broken unless you can put in long play time sessions because there's only one respawn spot and travel distances are extremely long and tedious. Island of Dr. Ned actually has the same single respawn spot issue (apparently it's a limitation with the DLC code on the consoles) but it has a proper "hub and spoke" design with much shorter travel distances.

Both Island and Riot have seriously fucked up copy protection schemes. It literally took me hours to figure out how to get those two DLCs installed properly. Armory does not have that issue.


Just to report back on this:

A friend of mine bought Borderlands so we've been playing together.  He wanted bank slots badly, so we both got Mad Moxxi's and haven't had any trouble with it really.  Going through the loading screen to get to the bank isn't really a big deal, and there are fast travel hubs to get there all over the place, so it hasn't been a problem.  I also don't know about the copy protection, but we got our copies on steam and it installed and has had 0 issues.  I'm actually pretty pleased with it thus far.

We plan on picking up the other DLC as we feel compelled (probably after our first playthrough of the normal game). 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on October 20, 2010, 12:36:53 PM
My problem with Moxi's is I always die on the Wave 5 final boss when it has a sliver of health left.  And if you're alone, that's it.  I also forget guns spawn after boss kills in the middle.  It gets really discouraging.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ghost on October 20, 2010, 12:56:14 PM
I read the descriptions on the Borderlands DLC and it sounds as if one of them is some arena style multiplayer content.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: fuser on October 20, 2010, 01:52:35 PM
Looks like Gran Turismo 5 got delayed again.   :heartbreak:

I like the rumor that its pushed out due to the firmware fisaco so they had to build against 3.50 and remaster everything. Seems pretty sound


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on October 20, 2010, 03:49:52 PM
I read the descriptions on the Borderlands DLC and it sounds as if one of them is some arena style multiplayer content.
Moxxi's Underdome Riot.  It's co-op multi-player, just like the rest of the game.  Waves of semi-random enemies, with random effects for each round (pistols do more damage, everything else less; mobs have increased shield regen; reduced accuracy; etc.).  Beat 25 total waves in each of three arenas and get a skill point.  Also bank slots.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on October 22, 2010, 07:26:46 PM
Costume Quest is absurdly cute and a lot of fun.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on October 22, 2010, 08:50:49 PM
I'll be on Fable 3 like stink on shit. 

Like Molyneaux' promises, than?

With all these HD remakes, has there been any mention of either a Jak or Ratchet HD collection for PS3?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on October 22, 2010, 08:55:25 PM
This is random, but does anyone know anything about Borderlands DLC?  I haven't bought any of it, and I'm gonna wait for a Steam sale (I know there was one recently, so it might be a while) either way, but I just reinstalled the game on a lark and am having fun with it again, so was wondering if any of the DLC adds a lot.

I liked the Zombie Island. Mad Moxxi is just arena battles - fun if you have a co-op partner and can get it discounted on XBL or Steam or whatever. General Knoxx seems a bit more hefty, but every quest seems to involve you physically driving for 15 minutes to get to the quest location to start up. Haven't tried the Claptrap Red Uprising one, though.

GOTY pack is all over the place. Might be cheaper than buying all the DLC, depending on where you look?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on October 22, 2010, 08:56:41 PM
Borderlands DLC adds SecuROM and a five installation limit.  On Steam I can't find a way to install Borderlands without also installing all the DLC I purchased, so now I can't even play the base game anymore.

I did not know that. Good job I bought the DLC and installed it, then. ;p



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on October 25, 2010, 01:52:10 AM
Random thing I learned during Blizzcon line-waiting activity: The 3rd Professor Layton game has really great music. It reminds me a lot of the music from the Jeremy Brett Sherlock Holmes TV show (I suspect that is deliberate.)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Murgos on October 25, 2010, 04:35:52 AM
I'll be on Fable 3 like stink on shit. 

Like Molyneaux' promises, than?

With all these HD remakes, has there been any mention of either a Jak or Ratchet HD collection for PS3?

Molyneaux over promises?  Sure.  But Fable II was still actually pretty good.  Black and White was actually kinda fun.  Etc... etc...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on October 25, 2010, 06:39:16 AM
I'll be on Fable 3 like stink on shit. 

Like Molyneaux' promises, than?

With all these HD remakes, has there been any mention of either a Jak or Ratchet HD collection for PS3?

Molyneaux over promises?  Sure.  But Fable II was still actually pretty good.  Black and White was actually kinda fun.  Etc... etc...

Being disappointed by all the promises assumes that I listen to them in the first place.  I really lliked Fable 2, and have no reason to think that I won't like 3 just as much.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on October 25, 2010, 07:43:00 AM


Being disappointed by all the promises assumes that I listen to them in the first place. 

As an aside, I think this is one of the keys to enjoying games - not expecting much.  One of the reasons I've been liking Civ 5 while a lot of people here have been complaining is because I really just knew hexed based, 1 unit per tile, and what civs they were adding.   Enjoying it quite a bunch.

Similarly, the list of games that I've disliked that were actually decent games, simply because they didn't live up to my imaginary version of what the game should be is growing insanely long now.

Granted, promised features are promised features, I suppose its fair to have expectations based on them ,but that isn't really my point here.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 25, 2010, 09:28:44 AM
My lack of enjoyment in Civ V has nothing to do with pre-launch hype. It's that while adding lots of cool stuff, the game has been getting steadily less enjoyable with each iteration. I'd say that it's the vaseline lens of time, but then Kael showed up and showed everyone how much fun the game could be. Firaxis not snapping him up is a tragic loss.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sjofn on October 25, 2010, 10:45:41 PM
Sims 3 expansion tomorrow! I'm excited!  :drillf:

This one is basically the Sims 3 version of Hot Date with a bit of Superstar thrown in. It sounds like it's a lot more THE SIMS than the last two expansions (I liked them fine but it felt like the devs had forgotten why people play the goddamn Sims in the first place. Hint: It's not for doing quests or essentially grinding faction.) so I am hoping I can find a copy tomorrow at our Target. I hate EA's downloader like poison, otherwise I'd get it that way. Oh well!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: stu on October 26, 2010, 11:15:59 PM
PSP Phone? I'm in.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/26/the-playstation-phone/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ffc on October 27, 2010, 02:23:01 AM
Majin and the Forsaken Kingdom demo is out.  Random gameplay clip. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ6uWwrQ2Jc&sns=em)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Tarami on October 27, 2010, 04:34:34 AM
Sims 3 expansion tomorrow! I'm excited!  :drillf:

This one is basically the Sims 3 version of Hot Date with a bit of Superstar thrown in. It sounds like it's a lot more THE SIMS than the last two expansions (I liked them fine but it felt like the devs had forgotten why people play the goddamn Sims in the first place. Hint: It's not for doing quests or essentially grinding faction.) so I am hoping I can find a copy tomorrow at our Target. I hate EA's downloader like poison, otherwise I'd get it that way. Oh well!
Hurray! :drillf: Don't keep tabs on Sims at all, I just play until I burn out with each expansion.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 27, 2010, 06:04:42 AM
Sims 3 expansion tomorrow! I'm excited!  :drillf:

You know, this is still unplayable on my wife's computer, which isn't crappy at all unless the ATI 5780 is somehow incompatible.  Problem is that I haven't made the time to engage the MTS community for help in resolving the issue(s).  I've done a few things such as scan for broken and incompatible UC, and TS3 is installed on a SSD, and her machine has 8GB of RAM.  I've decided some time ago that it's just a shitty program but she tells me that other people seem to be able to play it on crap machines.  Very frustrating.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on October 27, 2010, 09:13:41 AM
It doesn't work on one of my boxes either; tells me I don't have a video card installed but they list my card (GeForce 8600 GT) as a compatible one.  :uhrr:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bokonon on October 27, 2010, 09:35:11 AM
Got Rockband 3 last night. Aside from not paid much attention to the finer differences from RB2, it's pretty sweet. The UI works better, with ACTUAL SONG FILTERING. The songs are poppier, which is fine, because I'm not good enough at, nor particularly enjoy, the insane metal stuff.

Just need to recalibrate again (you'd think I'd learn by now to write down my old calibration settings).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on October 27, 2010, 10:50:29 AM
I, also, got RB3 last night.  Only had enough time to play through one of the very first challenges (a 12 song setlist).  Other than the UI, the thing RB does better than the entire GH series?  They know how to pick songs that are fun to play.  GH picks songs you'd think are cool, but end up being a) boring, b) ugly and/or c) too damn hard.

I find it a little strange that they are releasing it without having the Pro instruments ready.  The keyboard they have (not sure if I'll pick that up, even though it is getting nice reviews), but no guitar until the middle of November, and that is the ones with the buttons?  Fucking dumb.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 27, 2010, 11:18:12 AM
Yeah, the button guitar looks like the first gen midi guitars from the 80s. The Squier or whatever the real guitar is should be sweet, though. If it ever gets released for reals.

Of course, I'm thinking more about someone hacking it for a cheap midi guitar, though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on October 27, 2010, 11:28:26 AM
No need to hack, it is compatible with MIDI devices right out of the box.

And everything I've read leads me to believe that the real one is actually in the works.  Some other lame music game actually already has one, so I don't think technology is the problem.  I imagine I will ultimately get both versions, because I'm just that much of a sorry ass fanboi.

I'm more than a little shocked that you aren't shitting all over this subject, considering your background.  Interesting.  For myself, these silly living room plastic guitar playing games have reinvigorated my love for music and exposed me to knew tastes (quite outside of the actual games) and I really, REALLY want to learn guitar, but for a number of reasons I haven't taken the plunge.  I am hoping all of this helps me put a foot in the proverbial door.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on October 27, 2010, 11:46:11 AM
I keep waiting patiently for this genre to die.  It just won't.   :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 27, 2010, 11:52:18 AM
Cyrrex, I'm finally able to be ok with the dumb genre now :) I imagine it will continue to suck for real musicians, but the addition of the real guitar might be interesting.

I'm thinking more about the fact that in a few years there will be some new blood at the open mic nights, finally.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on October 27, 2010, 12:10:10 PM
If the fancy guitar controller gives me a way to build my fretboard muscles back up while playing a video game, I will be all over that.  I've fallen very much out of practice with the real thing, and when I sporadically pick it back up I'm always discouraged by the double whammy of how I don't remember stuff and how my fingers are so soft and weak they start hurting after half an hour.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on October 27, 2010, 12:18:14 PM
I keep waiting patiently for this genre to die.  It just won't.   :oh_i_see:

Let some joy into your life, Mr. Grinch!

After an hour or so of messing around with the pro keys, I think I might finally be able to make the leap to not totally sucking. Roundabout is ridiculous though. Damn you, Rick Wakeman!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on October 27, 2010, 12:19:32 PM
After an hour or so of messing around with the pro keys, I think I might finally be able to make the leap to not totally sucking. Roundabout is ridiculous though. Damn you, Rick Wakeman!

Wait....do you have a Pro guitar?  If so, how?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on October 27, 2010, 12:24:53 PM
After an hour or so of messing around with the pro keys, I think I might finally be able to make the leap to not totally sucking. Roundabout is ridiculous though. Damn you, Rick Wakeman!

Wait....do you have a Pro guitar?  If so, how?

Keys = keyboard.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on October 27, 2010, 01:51:42 PM
Ah, duh.  Let me know how that works out.  I haven't bought the keyboard, but if it's as fun as they are saying...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sjofn on October 27, 2010, 03:13:55 PM
Hurray! :drillf: Don't keep tabs on Sims at all, I just play until I burn out with each expansion.

Yeah, that's usually how I play, I just have an internal "it's about time for a new expansion for the Sims" clock that was well established during the Sims 2.

This new expansion is WAY more Sims-y than the past two, I am quite happy. If I didn't like constructing bars and dance clubs and stuff, I might be a little annoyed that they didn't provide any pre-made small clubs/bars/whatever (the ones they provide are almost all HUGE and don't fit on lots in the previous neighborhoods), but aside from that it's pretty awesome.  :heart:

I've never had problems with Sims 3 running that other people have had, but the people who've had those issues have my sympathies, because that is damn annoying.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on October 31, 2010, 08:51:43 AM
As good a place as any -

Target's buy 2 get 1 free started today.

Picked up Fallout: New Vegas, Fable 3 and Dead Rising 2 for $120.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on November 01, 2010, 05:51:15 AM
As good a place as any -

Target's buy 2 get 1 free started today.

Picked up Fallout: New Vegas, Fable 3 and Dead Rising 2 for $120.

Funny, those were just the 3 games I was thinking of picking up at Target today!  Are you me, but like a day in the future?  And if so, what do we think about DR2 so far?  You'll remember that we had complaints about the last one.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on November 01, 2010, 06:52:55 AM
He's you, after using a portal in the Nether.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on November 01, 2010, 07:21:06 AM
As good a place as any -

Target's buy 2 get 1 free started today.

Picked up Fallout: New Vegas, Fable 3 and Dead Rising 2 for $120.

Funny, those were just the 3 games I was thinking of picking up at Target today!  Are you me, but like a day in the future?  And if so, what do we think about DR2 so far?  You'll remember that we had complaints about the last one.

What's funny is of the 3, DR2 is the first one I opened and played.  It seems decent, always fun to kill zombies.  The timer stuff is still annoying. Sometimes you just wanna hack up some zombies, not run to save your daughter.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on November 01, 2010, 07:53:13 AM
FYI:
Amazon buy 3 for the price of 2 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html//ref=bt_atcg_mine_mm?ie=UTF8&plgroup=1&docId=1000626371&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=0RM9Y6XS688QG472G9B6&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1278774282&pf_rd_i=409566)


Larger selection than target, and better prices anyways, also - PC games in there.

I think I got the f13 ref link right? Admin want to edit it?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Special J on November 02, 2010, 07:19:21 AM
I'm pumped about playing RB3 but for some reason the keyboard hasn't worked its way to Canada.  So I'm holding off until I can get the bundle.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on November 02, 2010, 07:38:57 AM
FYI:
Amazon buy 3 for the price of 2 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html//ref=bt_atcg_mine_mm?ie=UTF8&plgroup=1&docId=1000626371&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=0RM9Y6XS688QG472G9B6&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1278774282&pf_rd_i=409566)


Larger selection than target, and better prices anyways, also - PC games in there.

I think I got the f13 ref link right? Admin want to edit it?

Thanks for that link, I just ordered Fable:Lost Chapters, NWN2 Gold, and Fallout 3 for a total of $47.50

Good deals.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on November 15, 2010, 12:49:07 PM
GOG just added Baldur's Gate 2 Complete.  This pretty completes the collection of Bioware/Black Isle AD&D stuff on GOG since Icewind Dale II complete and NWN: Diamond were also added in recent weeks.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on November 15, 2010, 12:54:24 PM
Blizzard has some job postings up that seem to imply they're going to port Diablo 3 to consoles.

Example: http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/careers/posting.html?id=10000BB


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Strazos on November 15, 2010, 06:12:53 PM
GOG just added Baldur's Gate 2 Complete.  This pretty completes the collection of Bioware/Black Isle AD&D stuff on GOG since Icewind Dale II complete and NWN: Diamond were also added in recent weeks.

Oh wow. Is it mod-able at all? Some of my discs are rather questionable at this point, and back-ups would be SNAZZY.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on November 15, 2010, 07:27:01 PM
GOG just added Baldur's Gate 2 Complete.  This pretty completes the collection of Bioware/Black Isle AD&D stuff on GOG since Icewind Dale II complete and NWN: Diamond were also added in recent weeks.

Oh wow. Is it mod-able at all? Some of my discs are rather questionable at this point, and back-ups would be SNAZZY.

From what I've glanced at on the GOG Baldur's Gate forum, it looks like you can mod both Baldur's Gate games.  I also have Torment and all the BG and IWD stuff on disc, but I'm tempted to pick these up on GOG so I don't have to go through the trouble of digging these games out whenever I feel like playing them.  I'll probably wait a while and see if they have any sort of holiday deals this year though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on November 17, 2010, 11:14:29 AM
GOG just added Baldur's Gate 2 Complete.  This pretty completes the collection of Bioware/Black Isle AD&D stuff on GOG since Icewind Dale II complete and NWN: Diamond were also added in recent weeks.

Oh wow. Is it mod-able at all? Some of my discs are rather questionable at this point, and back-ups would be SNAZZY.

From what I've glanced at on the GOG Baldur's Gate forum, it looks like you can mod both Baldur's Gate games.  I also have Torment and all the BG and IWD stuff on disc, but I'm tempted to pick these up on GOG so I don't have to go through the trouble of digging these games out whenever I feel like playing them.  I'll probably wait a while and see if they have any sort of holiday deals this year though.


WUA should've talked w/ them to bundle The Baldening.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on November 17, 2010, 01:48:41 PM
Speaking of Bioware, it looks like they'll be announcing their next project (presumably not Mass Effect, Dragon Age, or SWTOR related) at the Spike VGA's. (http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/66503)

Edit: Well, technically I guess it could be Mass Effect related, as people have pointed out that the rifle the guy is using in that video is fairly close to the Incisor from ME.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on November 18, 2010, 02:12:45 AM
I'm actually somewhat surprised GOG managed to snag NWN Diamond due to what I assume is fairly bad blood between Atari and Bioware. If only they could get permission to sell all the premium modules in a single pack as well, since Bioware is no longer allowed to sell or distribute them.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Abysmal Horror on November 18, 2010, 01:10:26 PM
I came across this via Sirlin.net, and it struck me as f13-ey, so here you go:

Shoryuken.com: Keiji Inafune Talks to 4Gamer About Leaving Capcom and his Feelings on the Japanese Games Industry

http://shoryuken.com/content/keiji-inafune-talks-4gamer-about-leaving-capcom-his-feelings-japanese-games-industry-2293/

It is long.  It is also, for some reason, entirely in italics.  :ye_gods:  Despite this, it's a good read.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on November 19, 2010, 10:33:25 AM
Why can I not obtain Diablo via Battle.net?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on November 19, 2010, 11:23:07 AM
Why can I not obtain Diablo via Battle.net?

I dunno, I was wondering this myself a year back or so when I tried to input my old CD keys.  I still actually have my diablo 1 disk and key, but battle.net won't recognize it or attach a copy ot my account.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on November 19, 2010, 03:00:50 PM
I came across this via Sirlin.net, and it struck me as f13-ey, so here you go:

Shoryuken.com: Keiji Inafune Talks to 4Gamer About Leaving Capcom and his Feelings on the Japanese Games Industry

http://shoryuken.com/content/keiji-inafune-talks-4gamer-about-leaving-capcom-his-feelings-japanese-games-industry-2293/

It is long.  It is also, for some reason, entirely in italics.  :ye_gods:  Despite this, it's a good read.
I find the dichotomy of the Shoryuken.net and NeoGAF comments almost as amusing as the (very long) interview itself. Over at GAF it's all "Inafune's awesome and Capcom doesn't know shit for shit." While at Shoryuken it's all "What a joke. Inafune is a shifty, skeezy motherfucker and a huge hypocritical failure of a developer."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on November 20, 2010, 06:14:33 AM
For a subset of this subset, there is a holiday sale at the NISA Store (http://store.nisamerica.com/):
Nov 22, Nippon Ichi titles
Nov 23, GUST Inc. titles
Nov 24-29, Mystery items
Nov 29, Art books and such


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Thrawn on November 23, 2010, 07:15:01 PM
Total Annihilation - 50% off, can grab it for $5.

Never played it, has near perfect ratings..but is uh, 13 years old.  Still worth trying or will it suffer from age too much?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on November 24, 2010, 10:00:09 AM
What distribution system?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ard on November 24, 2010, 10:01:49 AM
It wasn't a game I ever really played for the single player.  Without other people to play it with, it's at best a kick of nostalgia.  It's still honestly the best at what it does, throwing a billion different types of units at you in large numbers, but it's definitely feeling it's age.  If you liked Supreme Commander (1, not 2) and want to see where it came from, this is it though.

edit:  GoG has it for $6 normally.  Impulse has it for $5 on sale right now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on December 09, 2010, 02:47:09 AM
From what I can figure, this is the very rough outline of what the 2011 game lineup is looking like at the moment:

Dead Space 2 - Jan
Little Big Planet 2 - Jan
Killzone 3 - Feb
Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 - Feb
Bulletstorm - Feb
Deus Ex: Human Revolution - Feb/March
Dragon Age 2 - March
Crysis 2 - March
Child of Eden - March
Homefront - March
F.E.A.R. 3 - March
Shogun II: Total War - March
Portal 2 - April
The Witcher 2 - May
Hunted: The Demon's Forge - May

DC Universe Online - Q1
Darkspore - Q1
Shadows of the Damned - Spring
Ico/Shadow of the Colossus Collection - Spring
Star Wars: The Old Republic - Spring
Gears of War 3 - Fall
Batman: Arkham City - Fall
Rage - Fall


TBA 2011:

DotA2
Rift: Planes of Telara
SOCOM 4
Warhammer 40K: Space Marine
Ratchet & Clank: All 4 One
MotorStorm Apocalypse
X-Men: Destiny
Infamous 2
Twisted Metal
Guild Wars 2
Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword
Max Payne 3
Sorcery
Torchlight 2
Resistance 3
Trine 2
Mortal Kombat
Some Call of Duty game
Duke Nukem Forever (even with Gearbox working on it I hesitate to list it)

Possible 2011:

XCOM
The Agency
Neverwinter
The Last Guardian
Ni No Kuni
El Shaddai: Ascension of the Metatron
L.A. Noire
The Secret World
Diablo 3
Starcraft II: Heart of the Swarm


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Segoris on December 09, 2010, 10:15:06 AM
GamersGate (http://www.gamersgate.com/offers) has a lot of things on sale right now. I guess it's week 2 of their holiday sale. Some worth mentioning would be Majesty Gold for $3, Reccetgear for $10, Velvet Assassin for $3.xx, Deadspace for $6.xx, Bioshock for $5.

Overall, it doesn't compare to Steam's normal holiday sale, but there are some games on there some may be interested in.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on December 09, 2010, 10:36:31 AM
Is Marvel v. Capcom 3 going to be out for PC?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on December 09, 2010, 01:33:13 PM
Isn't Catherine supposed to be out sometime in spring of 2011? I am so goddamn stoked about that game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on December 09, 2010, 01:39:21 PM
Isn't Catherine supposed to be out sometime in spring of 2011? I am so goddamn stroked about that game.

FIFY


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on December 09, 2010, 01:40:06 PM
That's after the shrink wrap is off.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on December 09, 2010, 01:55:34 PM
Uncharted 3 announced (http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/12/09/uncharted-3-first-look/).

I guess they're supposed to be showing off a trailer at the VGA's.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on December 10, 2010, 03:55:12 AM
NPD's for November (http://gamasutra.com/view/news/31956/NPD_Results_November_2010_Industry_Up_8_Percent_Black_Ops_Leads_Software.php).

Black Ops sold 8.4 million copies.  In November.  Just in the U.S..


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on December 10, 2010, 08:03:55 AM
dat ad campaign


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 10, 2010, 08:49:35 AM
My dad's into black ops. Something very wrong when he got into gaming when he retired and now sits around playing games all day while I work. Very, very wrong.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Stormwaltz on December 10, 2010, 08:52:45 AM
...he retired and now sits around playing games all day while I work.

I hope I can retire so well.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ard on December 10, 2010, 09:55:14 AM
My dad's into black ops. Something very wrong when he got into gaming when he retired and now sits around playing games all day while I work. Very, very wrong.

My mom's the same way with adventure games on the DS and steam.  It's equal parts unholy and unfair.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 10, 2010, 09:58:17 AM
I'm trying to improve his taste in games, but he's all about the console FPS. Got hooked with Halo.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: NiX on December 10, 2010, 10:13:39 AM
I'm trying to improve his taste in games, but he's all about the console FPS. Got hooked with Halo.

You enjoy something that would improve his taste? :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on December 10, 2010, 08:15:32 PM
Hey, Dad, you like Halo right?  Try Gothic!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 11, 2010, 08:16:16 AM
I was thinking RDR and Madden 11 off the top of my head, or something with decent co-op so I could talk him into getting me a 360 so we could hang out once in a while.  :drill:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Engels on December 11, 2010, 09:49:26 AM
L4D2 prolly. That would get his FPS on while letting you shoot things with him.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on December 11, 2010, 10:00:25 AM
My dad is the same way now that he's retired.  He's really into WoW and has been asking for a 360 to play Halo.  He's actually better at PvP in WoW than I am. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on December 11, 2010, 11:26:52 PM
My dad is still pretty sure games are garbage.  This is fine because I still think he's a selfish ass.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Musashi on December 12, 2010, 01:08:03 PM
My dad is still pretty sure games are garbage.  This is fine because I still think he's a selfish ass.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on December 13, 2010, 09:22:00 AM
My dad doesn't enjoy any form of entertainment of any kind.

So I'll probably get him a WoW sub for xmas.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 13, 2010, 09:57:30 AM
L4D2 prolly. That would get his FPS on while letting you shoot things with him.
There is cross-platform co-op?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Xuri on December 13, 2010, 10:05:22 AM
My dad played some kind of golf game on the Commodore 64. Once.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 13, 2010, 11:22:43 AM
Leaderboard golf was the first co-op (well, hot-seat) drinking video game I remember.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Xuri on December 13, 2010, 11:35:17 AM
Hah! The very same. Thanks =P


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on December 13, 2010, 01:44:52 PM
I feel a new kinship with the group.

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/85916/bombed_nintendo.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on December 25, 2010, 09:55:29 PM
Amazon currently has Enslaved (360 and PS3) for $20 (http://www.amazon.com/Enslaved-Odyssey-West-Xbox-360/dp/B00319DX4W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1293342952&sr=8-1).

Picked one up as I had $20 in game credit from a previous order and had heard a lot of good things about it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on January 05, 2011, 05:54:42 PM
I'm surprised nobody's mentioned either the giant PS3 hacking fiasco (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-ps3-security-in-tatters) that just went down, or anything about the upcoming Sandy Bridge release (http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested).  I'd have imagined that either or both would have registered something here by now.

Short form:  
-  A group at 27c3 announced that they'd found a giant security flaw in the (up until now) secure PS3, and Geohot (of iPhone jailbreaking fame) then released the master keys publicly using an exploit based on their work.  

-  Sandy Bridge is pretty fricking awesome for an upper-mainstream processor, with Anand getting the 2600K to 4.4GHz stable on the stock Intel cooling solution and some pretty impressive performance even at stock clocks.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 05, 2011, 08:19:12 PM
The PS3 hack doesn't matter til you can run PS2 games, which may happen but is unlikely. Blu-Rays cost way too much, and downloading the ISOs is just dumb. So, uh, no one mentioned it because it's non-news to anyone that isn't a hacker.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on January 05, 2011, 09:44:46 PM
The PS3 hack doesn't matter til you can run PS2 games, which may happen but is unlikely. Blu-Rays cost way too much, and downloading the ISOs is just dumb. So, uh, no one mentioned it because it's non-news to anyone that isn't a hacker.

I don't know - I found the entire thing somewhat fascinating, particularly the revelation that Sony seeded the keys with a static value, making it (relatively) easy for the fail0verflow group & Geohot to derive them mathematically.  The implications of pretty much anyone being able to sign and run code in the not-too-distant future are also of interest to me, as I'd love to see an XBMC-type conversion in a fairly inexpensive device with a easily replaceable hard drive, network connectivity, HDMI and a BD drive.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samprimary on January 06, 2011, 12:51:39 AM
I feel a new kinship with the group.

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/85916/bombed_nintendo.jpg)

lol.

'toshiba? lost some good men there'


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Quinton on January 06, 2011, 01:35:32 AM
The PS3 hack doesn't matter til you can run PS2 games, which may happen but is unlikely. Blu-Rays cost way too much, and downloading the ISOs is just dumb. So, uh, no one mentioned it because it's non-news to anyone that isn't a hacker.

I don't know - I found the entire thing somewhat fascinating, particularly the revelation that Sony seeded the keys with a static value, making it (relatively) easy for the fail0verflow group & Geohot to derive them mathematically.  The implications of pretty much anyone being able to sign and run code in the not-too-distant future are also of interest to me, as I'd love to see an XBMC-type conversion in a fairly inexpensive device with a easily replaceable hard drive, network connectivity, HDMI and a BD drive.

It's a fantastic example of the fact that getting crypto right is *hard* and small mistakes can bring down the entire house of cards.

schild: I don't think you're likely to see ps2 emulation on later generation ps3s -- Sony very clearly thought they could do it in software, fell back to an (expensive) hardware solution when they couldn't, and then later decided to just drop the feature entirely.  The ps2 is a serious pain in the butt to emulate well.  I wouldn't say it's absolutely impossible to do on ps3, but I am doubtful that a performant general purpose solution is doable without an absurd amount of effort, if it all.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kageru on January 09, 2011, 06:12:14 PM
The PS3 hack doesn't matter til you can run PS2 games, which may happen but is unlikely. Blu-Rays cost way too much, and downloading the ISOs is just dumb. So, uh, no one mentioned it because it's non-news to anyone that isn't a hacker.

Heh, optimistic. Still, Sony will probably sell more hardware.

Main outcome is probably moving forward the release date for the next generation hardware.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on January 09, 2011, 09:28:13 PM
I wonder how much harddrive capacity the PS3's firmware can address. Even if someone popped out a custom firmware that let you just plop ISOs/Pirated PSN games onto the harddrive and run them with no modification, games are getting pretty goddamn big.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kageru on January 10, 2011, 12:04:32 AM

Are they that much bigger than PC games? Because those are certainly getting pretty huge themselves and still readily available on torrents.

blue-ray burners are pretty affordable now though, and some of the commercial pirates are still keen on shipping dodgy disks around (admittedly mostly DVD). I suspect the main restraint on PS3 piracy will be that anyone who cares has a modded Xbox360 already.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: naum on January 10, 2011, 01:21:42 PM
Nintendo 3DS warning: Just being honest, Nintendo exec says (http://www.csmonitor.com/Innovation/Horizons/2011/0110/Nintendo-3DS-warning-Just-being-honest-Nintendo-exec-says)

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Late last month, Nintendo posted a notice to its Website, warning that the forthcoming 3DS handset could cause children "under the age of six" to experience "a potential impact on the growth" on their eyes. Clearly this was not the most effective way to tout the 3D-capable successor to the Nintendo DS, which has traditionally been very popular among younger users.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Murgos on January 11, 2011, 11:16:14 AM
I'm going to be much happier in five or ten years when every new game released can stop being compared to WoW.

"Diablo III?  It's kinda like Diablo II + WoW!"

"Rifts?  It's kinda like a WoW but Less/More/Better/Worse!"

ARRRRGGGGHH!!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on January 11, 2011, 01:22:54 PM
I'm going to be much happier in five or ten years when every new game released can stop being compared to WoW.

"Diablo III?  It's kinda like Diablo II + WoW!"

"Rifts?  It's kinda like a WoW but Less/More/Better/Worse!"

ARRRRGGGGHH!!
Hahaha, only five or ten years?  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on January 11, 2011, 02:54:32 PM
Blizzard's new game might be out in five...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on January 11, 2011, 06:26:56 PM
http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/709706/Battlefield-3-To-Be-Officially-Announced-At-GDC-2011.html

Battlefield 3, weeeee.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Murgos on January 12, 2011, 07:27:32 AM
http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/709706/Battlefield-3-To-Be-Officially-Announced-At-GDC-2011.html

Battlefield 3, weeeee.

I hear it's going to be kind of like WoW.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Tarami on January 12, 2011, 08:32:59 AM
I hear it's going to be kind of like WoW.
Can't imagine how it could be much different considering it's going to have both tanks and healers.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on January 12, 2011, 05:27:57 PM
Please, for the love of god, no.

http://www.rpgwatch.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12313



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on January 13, 2011, 06:59:28 AM
Can I pray Dr. Ray fires his ass for not coming up with something new?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Murgos on January 13, 2011, 07:01:42 AM
I don't get the angst.  What's wrong with getting the old Ultima's in a browser?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on January 13, 2011, 07:42:20 AM
(http://medias.jeuxonline.info/upload/war/Site/Romeo/legende/barnett_comic_con08.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on January 13, 2011, 07:47:18 AM
As bad as the PB stuff got in the WAR days, he's surprisingly interesting now. Maybe there's hope yet.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on January 13, 2011, 12:09:21 PM
That's cute.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 13, 2011, 07:12:18 PM
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/85916/barak_oh-yeah.png)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: fuser on January 14, 2011, 08:15:30 AM
Sony's suing everyone related to the PS3 hacking. The restraining order against geohot is fun to read, as a ton of the evidence is forum and blog postings.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on January 16, 2011, 09:28:47 AM
Wasn't really sure where to post this, so I guess this thread will do:

(http://nerfnow.com/comic/image/450)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on January 16, 2011, 09:57:40 AM
hehe, funny and (unfortunately) true.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 17, 2011, 12:09:44 AM
More like fortunately true, every genre has to evolve.

Took the industry nearly 20 years to top A Link to the Past in Demon's Souls and it was worth the wait. I can wait for the next MMOG that breaks free the chains of Ceauşescu.

/congo joke


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: fuser on January 18, 2011, 11:20:08 AM
Holy crap Steam coming to the PS3. If you buy the PS3 version of portal they are including the PC/Mac version as an activation. Also the save games on your PS3 will be stored in the steam cloud so you can play a save from PS3 on PC or vice versa.

Chat and multiplayer will also be cross platform  :awesome_for_real:



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 18, 2011, 02:07:04 PM
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/85916/gnome_stare.gif)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on January 19, 2011, 03:56:42 AM
A few useless snippets of news here:

Remember when the Final Fantasy brand used to mean something?  SE recently held a conference to show off a number of Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts related projects.  I'd link the trailers but SE decided to have them all removed from YouTube, because we didn't stay up all night to watch the live stream of the event and thus don't deserve to see them.  Anyhow, they showed the renamed Final Fantasy Type-0 (the PSP game formerly known as Final Fantasy XIII Agito, which was also formerly supposed to be a cell phone game when it was announced back in '06).  The Kingdom Hearts 3DS entry also received a new name, Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance (you know because it fits in with the whole 3D thing, along with the recent trend of KH games having bizarre names).  Final Fantasy Versus XIII got a new trailer that actually showed off some gameplay, which was apparently very Kingdom Hearts-ish, but still no release date in site.  

So with Vs. trying to edge out GT5 for PS3 Exclusive That Spent the Most Time in Development Hell, and Type-0 being, well... a PSP game,  SE apparently decided they needed another FF game.  To this end, they combined FFX-2 and FFXIII, and announced FFXIII-2 for the PS3 and 360, and then pretty much said fuck-all about it other than that Lightning is in it, and it's coming next Winter.  I don't think there's a lack of talent over at Square Enix, but there definitely seems to be a lack of focus.  The Final Fantasy brand isn't going to be revitalized by making a ton of spin-offs, sequels, or side projects (and no, it wouldn't be revitalized by remaking FFVII either, people just need to get over it).  That said, if they just cut out all the bad plot and character stuff from XIII and just reuse a lot of the gameplay and art assets, which were quite good, there's actually a chance that FFXIII-2 might not be too bad.

On a completely unrelated and more positive announcment Taskmaster is revealed for Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHDMqzyIUAE).  Yeah, they also showed off Akuma, but I don't really give a shit about that since I can play as him in any number of Street Fighter games.  Like with M.O.D.O.K, fan reaction seems to be divided between "Fuck Yeah!' and "Who the fuck is that?".  I'd kill for pretty much any of the original Thunderbolts lineup, but so far I'm fairly satisfied with the announced roster of characters.  Hsien-Ko and Sentinel are expected to be the last characters to be announced due to a leaked list of characters.


Edit:  So as not to be completely negative about the Square Enix stuff, since I actually think there's potential for a good game to be made out of a lot of the work done on FFXIII.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 19, 2011, 11:29:11 AM
I hope Lightning decides to leave law enforcement and enter the world of Rock-N-Roll.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on January 19, 2011, 12:58:29 PM
Nintendo's 3DS launches in the U.S. on March 27th, for $249.99.  European launch is two days earlier for £229.99.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: WindupAtheist on January 19, 2011, 07:09:46 PM
Please, for the love of god, no.

http://www.rpgwatch.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12313

(http://www.celebrityclubber.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Sort_of_want.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: naum on January 20, 2011, 07:03:32 AM
Nintendo's 3DS launches in the U.S. on March 27th, for $249.99.  European launch is two days earlier for £229.99.

Nintendo 3DS Preview (http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/19/nintendo-3ds-in-depth-preview-slight-return-video/)

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Face Raiders. Another built-in diversion. Take a picture of yourself or your (un)loved ones and shoot them up as you twist 360 degrees in an AR-esque shooter. It won't shake the "tech demo" vibe either, but given its free in-bundle status, we can't complain. Also helps that we spent the entire time blasting away Nilay's face, only have "boss Nilay" grow an afro upon defeat.

Steeldiver. Actually one of the more interesting launch titles, since it makes use of the 3DS's gyroscope. You turn your body to locate ships through a periscope, and then you fire upon them. One of the better-looking 3D games, for sure, although the effect isn't used for anything -- it's just there.

Resident Evil: The Mercenaries 3D and Street Fighter IV 3D Edition. Both games boast impressive graphics, and even 3D mode was well done -- we don't think it really added anything, but it certainly didn't distract. The games themselves were smart, fleshed-out recreations of their respective console equivalents, and the touch screen options were large enough that we could use our fingernails just fine for quickly changing weapons / activating super combos.

Madden NFL. We can't explain why, but the 3D effect here was just jarring. We couldn't seem to focus no matter how we twisted and adjusted the system, our eyes ever-suffering.

3DS hands-on

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xkYifIewOM&feature=player_embedded


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on January 20, 2011, 08:52:03 AM
Holy crap Steam coming to the PS3. If you buy the PS3 version of portal they are including the PC/Mac version as an activation. Also the save games on your PS3 will be stored in the steam cloud so you can play a save from PS3 on PC or vice versa.

Chat and multiplayer will also be cross platform  :awesome_for_real:



How is that useless? That's incredible.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ghost on January 20, 2011, 03:49:09 PM
Just saw on steam that Deadspace 2 is 60 bucks.  Holy shit!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 21, 2011, 07:05:23 AM
I'm betting it has sequelitis and so I'll wait for a price drop.  I refuse to believe it can be better than the first one, even after playing the demo.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on January 21, 2011, 07:27:35 AM
Just saw on steam that Deadspace 2 is 60 bucks.  Holy shit!
I was noticing this trend. Black Ops and DA2 are also $60, just going off their rotating banner.

Crazy.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on January 21, 2011, 12:10:14 PM
Just saw on steam that Deadspace 2 is 60 bucks.  Holy shit!
Thank Activision pretty much for that shit.

Oh, and in other news:

Random website on the internet says that Sony is thinking about adding PC-style serials to PS3 games in lieu of their security being busted wide open. (http://www.thinq.co.uk/2011/1/21/sony-rumoured-be-adding-serial-keys-ps3/)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: bhodi on January 21, 2011, 12:57:00 PM
Oh, and in other news:

Random website on the internet says that Sony is thinking about adding PC-style serials to PS3 games in lieu of their security being busted wide open. (http://www.thinq.co.uk/2011/1/21/sony-rumoured-be-adding-serial-keys-ps3/)
Which of course would have the "side benefit" of closing the used market hole which loses them about a billion times more money than any pirated games market.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on January 22, 2011, 03:02:24 AM
Just saw on steam that Deadspace 2 is 60 bucks.  Holy shit!

I just got a notice that Dead Space 2 had just shipped and was set to arrive on Monday.  I was a bit surprised as I didn't recall ever ordering the game.  Took me awhile to figure out that I had pre-ordered it last March when there was a $20 off code for the EA Store during PAX, and I had ordered it then.  Also the PC version was only priced at $50 at the time, so I only had to pay $30 total for it (plus tax, shipping was free and it should get here before the actual release day although I probably won't have time to play it for awhile).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on January 22, 2011, 03:16:58 AM
Which of course would have the "side benefit" of closing the used market hole which loses them about a billion times more money than any pirated games market.

Console gaming is losing its point so very fast. Except for a super cheap Saboteur, I haven't bought a single one of these new code-crippled console games. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 26, 2011, 07:56:19 AM
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/85916/Eddy.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on January 26, 2011, 03:48:18 PM
The PSP2 is expected to be unveiled at a press conference Sony is having tonight (10pm PT).  1Up, IGN, Kotaku, and Eurogamer are all going to be live streaming the event.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on January 26, 2011, 05:44:55 PM
Well at least someone cares then.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bandit on January 27, 2011, 06:31:26 AM
I see Direct2Drive is offering PC game "rentals" now.  $5 for 5 hours...

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One of the many reasons I’m proud to work for D2D is the on-going commitment to better serve our customers and followers. Trust me if you could be a fly on the wall during our many brain-storming sessions you’ll walk away satisfied in knowing we take all your feedback to heart. So, I proudly announce our newest feature, Direct2Drive’s rentals. Starting today you can rent select titles for $5.00 that gets you 5 hours of play time. If you decide you want to keep the game, the $5.00 initial investment will be applied to the final purchase of the game. It’s that simple!

To start things off we have a few games for you to choose from Silent Hill: Homecoming, Grid, and Divinity 2.

I have no problems with digital purchases even virtual goods, but for some reason I can't get my head around rentals.  Maybe it's the fact that you can pick up full games for $5 on steam. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on January 27, 2011, 06:37:07 AM
I see Direct2Drive is offering PC game "rentals" now.  $5 for 5 hours...

Quote
One of the many reasons I’m proud to work for D2D is the on-going commitment to better serve our customers and followers. Trust me if you could be a fly on the wall during our many brain-storming sessions you’ll walk away satisfied in knowing we take all your feedback to heart. So, I proudly announce our newest feature, Direct2Drive’s rentals. Starting today you can rent select titles for $5.00 that gets you 5 hours of play time. If you decide you want to keep the game, the $5.00 initial investment will be applied to the final purchase of the game. It’s that simple!

To start things off we have a few games for you to choose from Silent Hill: Homecoming, Grid, and Divinity 2.

I have no problems with digital purchases even virtual goods, but for some reason I can't get my head around rentals.  Maybe it's the fact that you can pick up full games for $5 on steam. 

I've always been of the opinion that if I game isn't worth owning, it isn't worth playing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on January 27, 2011, 05:20:31 PM
There are some games that are too short to pay full price for but are excellent games to actually play for their short duration. Those are the ones you rent, on consoles anyway.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on January 28, 2011, 09:51:39 AM
Or just buy it on steam sale. The interim time can also kill any buzz interest and save you the time playing it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on January 28, 2011, 10:52:34 AM
Or just buy it on steam sale. The interim time can also kill any buzz interest and save you the time playing it.

Yeah, thats a big part of it.  Most of my desire to really buy a game comes from the hype train, I have to admit, whether it be here or elsewhere.  I do buy stuff on steam sale for cheap, but tons of stuff I  "almost" bought when it was new ends up getting passed on even when its like 5-7 bucks because I just don't care.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 28, 2011, 10:54:32 AM
Paid demos.

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/85916/burns_excellent.png)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sjofn on January 29, 2011, 01:55:49 PM
That random Sims Medieval (http://www.ea.com/the-sims-medieval?sourceid=brand_wk_sims-medieval_broad_62_sims-medieval_home_google) game is coming out in March apparently.

Sims 3 is also on Steam now, which irks me. I would love to have it on Steam, but even though it's super on sale ($90 for everything, so the base game + three expansions + their two stupid stuff packs, which is actually pretty good all things considered), I don't want it on Steam so bad I'd pay that much. :(


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on January 30, 2011, 02:30:22 PM
Oh, and in other news:

Random website on the internet says that Sony is thinking about adding PC-style serials to PS3 games in lieu of their security being busted wide open. (http://www.thinq.co.uk/2011/1/21/sony-rumoured-be-adding-serial-keys-ps3/)
Which of course would have the "side benefit" of closing the used market hole which loses them about a billion times more money than any pirated games market.

That'd completely kill me buying PS3 games as an additional "Side Benefit". Not that I bother to rent these days, but I give away older games that I no longer have any interest in - and was considering buying a second PS3 as a blu-ray player for the bedroom/to allow system link play for myself and my wife.

On a PS3-related note, I saw that Dead Space 2 for PC comes with a HD & Move-enabled version of Dead Space: Extraction, which seemed to get good reviews for Wii awhile back. Anyone have any first hand experience?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on February 01, 2011, 01:47:39 PM
Kinda went under my radar that Dungeon Siege 3 is due out this year and is being developed by Obsidian (published by SquareEnix who bought the rights to the series).  This was apparently announced some time ago, but I hadn't heard anything about it until this week when a bunch of sites started putting up some hands-on previews.  Obsidian is developing this game using their own engine, called Onyx.  From the sounds of it there will be some people here who will be upset by the consolization of the game, as the demos were given on the PC but played with a gamepad, and the game is also being released on the PS3 and 360.  Overall though the game sounds pretty promising, although pretty much every preview I've read has been sure to note Obsidian's history of making good, but really flawed games.

PC Gamer's preview (http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/01/31/dungeon-siege-3-preview-2/).
Eurogamer's preview (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-01-28-dungeon-siege-iii-hands-on).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on February 01, 2011, 01:52:06 PM
Obsidian does great stuff with story and characters and such, using other people's engines and tech. The idea of them creating their own engine is... yeah.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 02, 2011, 01:16:30 PM
Obsidian.  Wait and see.  Fan patch, maybe.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on February 02, 2011, 01:34:45 PM
Alpha Protocol was a technical disaster and that was barely off their usual rails.  This should be very interesting.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ghost on February 02, 2011, 01:41:01 PM
That random Sims Medieval (http://www.ea.com/the-sims-medieval?sourceid=brand_wk_sims-medieval_broad_62_sims-medieval_home_google) game is coming out in March apparently.

Sims 3 is also on Steam now, which irks me. I would love to have it on Steam, but even though it's super on sale ($90 for everything, so the base game + three expansions + their two stupid stuff packs, which is actually pretty good all things considered), I don't want it on Steam so bad I'd pay that much. :(

I had that exact same thought when I looked at the Steam pack last night.  Maybe it will go on sale, err maybe more on sale. 

The Sims Medieval I'm oddly a little excited about.  I'm sure it will be absolute shite though. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on February 03, 2011, 04:41:33 PM
Hell fucking yeah.  Saint's Row 3 is coming out this fall (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-02-02-saints-row-3-due-this-autumn).  SR2 is quite possibly my favorite game of the last few years, so it'll be nice to get another installment.  Here's hoping they don't fuck with the formula too much.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trouble on February 04, 2011, 10:03:21 PM
SR2 is amazing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 07, 2011, 08:59:34 AM
You mean on consoles, right?

Though I guess I should give it another whirl with the gtx460. But really, an 8800gtx should've been enough to knock a console game out of the park, gta4 ran good on it. Shitty sr2 port. Bah.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on February 07, 2011, 09:15:18 AM
SR2 PC has some issues for sure. My HD4890 had trouble running it on max.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 07, 2011, 09:42:00 AM
I'm not worried about running at max. I ran gta4 on the 8800gtx at 360 settings plus a few things (view distance mostly) bumped up. Even though I'm a graphics whore, if a game is fun I don't need it to be maxed out, I can play RIFT maxed out on my 460 but it's not fluid enough. For a game with shooting and driving, needs to run better. I spent maybe five minutes in SR2 with the camera wildly swinging around and the framerate doing a jig before I went back to whatever else I was doing.

And I had an awesome Cliff Burton avatar, too, dernit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 08, 2011, 09:13:41 AM
SR2 with GTAIV car physics would have been my GotY.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trouble on February 09, 2011, 02:16:36 PM
There are some pretty good third party fixes for SR2 to run with recent performance on the PC. I was able to get it running without a hitch.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Minvaren on February 09, 2011, 02:50:36 PM
Activision may have just pulled the plug on Guitar Hero...?

Link : here (http://investor.activision.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=548900)

Quote
At the same time, due to continued declines in the music genre, the company will disband Activision Publishing's Guitar Hero business unit and discontinue development on its Guitar Hero game for 2011.  The company also will stop development on True Crime: Hong Kong™.  These decisions are based on the desire to focus on the greatest opportunities that the company currently has to create the world's best interactive entertainment experiences.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on February 09, 2011, 02:59:00 PM
Hopefully this eventually frees up the bands who were GH-exclusive.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Minvaren on February 09, 2011, 03:09:54 PM
That was actually my second thought as well...   :awesome_for_real:

The first being, "who's going to make a decent guitar now?"


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on February 09, 2011, 10:02:39 PM
wrong thread. ;p


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 10, 2011, 08:41:00 AM
There are some pretty good third party fixes for SR2 to run with recent performance on the PC. I was able to get it running without a hitch.
Links?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ghost on February 10, 2011, 02:01:16 PM

I've always been of the opinion that if I game isn't worth owning, it isn't worth playing.
I have plenty of games that aren't worth owning or playing, yet I own them anyway.   :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on February 10, 2011, 03:56:48 PM
I didn't know where else to put this, so I guess here will do

(http://i.imgur.com/Pztm8.jpg)

 :awesome_for_real:



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on February 10, 2011, 06:17:35 PM
I'll be in my bunk.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 10, 2011, 10:45:45 PM
I'll be in my bunk.
(http://forums.f13.net/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=5538;type=avatar)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on February 10, 2011, 11:19:59 PM
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/40386/Avatars/fapping-daffy.gif)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on February 11, 2011, 04:46:51 AM
 :thumbs_up: :thumbs_up: :thumbs_up: :thumbs_up:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 11, 2011, 07:49:36 AM
They've finally gotten Ivy to Belle Chere proportions  :drillf:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mosesandstick on February 11, 2011, 07:52:17 AM
That's the cosplayer  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on February 11, 2011, 08:25:10 AM
This thread is channeling Neogaf.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 11, 2011, 08:36:00 AM
This thread is channeling Neogaf.
I don't see how that comment adds to the gameplay.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on February 11, 2011, 09:03:26 AM
This thread is channeling Neogaf.
I don't see how that comment adds to the gameplay.
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/40386/Avatars/fapping-daffy.gif)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: JWIV on February 11, 2011, 01:44:32 PM
Oh Sony, you're so funny.  Somehow, I don't think I'm going to go download all this crap to admire the decade old graphics and nutpunching gameplay.


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Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on February 11, 2011, 01:53:07 PM
Yeah, the wife and I had a laugh about that last night.  She quit as a level 32 mage in the middle of LoIO.  I distinctly remember giving away all my gear, plat and bags so I couldn't come back when I left @ GoD.  Pretty sure even if I wanted a nostalgia trip, neither character is a good idea.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on February 11, 2011, 02:27:31 PM
Hell, I actually did it.  I think it spent more time downloading than it did for me to realize DO NOT WANT. 

What I really want (after someone peels me some grapes) is the EQ/Kunark/Velious world updated for todays graphics/controls.  I'm okay with xp loss and nutty corpse runs.  At this point, though, the control scheme is simply too antiquated and they've bogged the system with about 900% more crap ideas than players need. 

I'm actually really glad they gave it to me for free instead of my paying $15 at some point down the road for nostalgia. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on February 12, 2011, 12:54:28 PM
Anyone else interested in Jane Jensen's Gray Matter? The local gaming mag (Pelit) had a review in this month's issue, and they loved it. It's supposed to be out Feb 25th.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trouble on February 12, 2011, 08:58:48 PM
There are some pretty good third party fixes for SR2 to run with recent performance on the PC. I was able to get it running without a hitch.
Links?

This covered every single issue I experienced, including bugged quests: Saints Row 2 PC FAQ - Steam (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1715922)

As a general rule SR2 runs better windowed. I run all my games windowed so I probably experienced less performance issues than most people do.


Edit: having an SSD goes a long way toward making it run well too due to SR2 not prefetching data from the disk.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on February 13, 2011, 03:38:42 AM
Anyone else interested in Jane Jensen's Gray Matter? The local gaming mag (Pelit) had a review in this month's issue, and they loved it. It's supposed to be out Feb 25th.



Hey :)

I created a thread a few weeks ago about the game ! (demo is quite good, IMO)

http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=20301.0


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on February 13, 2011, 06:13:21 AM
After some forum dredging, I found out that you can apparently buy the dd version of Gray Matter here (http://gamerunlimited.gamesplanet.com/kaufen-downloaden-pc-spiele/Gray-Matter-2194-14.html) right now, because the game released in Germany ages ago. AFAIK the PC version includes English as well as German dubs. Haven't tried it myself though so I don't know for sure if it works.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 14, 2011, 09:26:51 AM
There are some pretty good third party fixes for SR2 to run with recent performance on the PC. I was able to get it running without a hitch.
Links?

This covered every single issue I experienced, including bugged quests: Saints Row 2 PC FAQ - Steam (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1715922)

As a general rule SR2 runs better windowed. I run all my games windowed so I probably experienced less performance issues than most people do.


Edit: having an SSD goes a long way toward making it run well too due to SR2 not prefetching data from the disk.
Thanks! Looks like some work, but doable. Between this and Ironwood's advice on Dead Space I might have a couple "new" games to play.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 16, 2011, 05:43:34 AM
Cave Story 3D on 3DS.  I'd post a link if I had one that wasn't a PDF.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on February 16, 2011, 06:36:29 AM
This covered every single issue I experienced, including bugged quests: Saints Row 2 PC FAQ - Steam (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1715922)

Quote
The speedup bug is something that is an inherent problem with Windows 7, though in rare cases it has been reported to happen on Vista. The speedup happens with CPUs that do not run at exactly 3.2Ghz frequency (the Xbox 360 cpu speed.) The further your cpu is away from 3.2Ghz (both higher and lower) the faster it will run.

Seriously?  This is laughably terrible.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ard on February 16, 2011, 05:02:33 PM
The Drakensang followup (prequel, I guess) just kicked out it's US release on Steam, for those that like their eurojank rpgs (at least, I think I'm talking to more than Sky here).

http://store.steampowered.com/app/33770/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on February 16, 2011, 05:09:30 PM
I still have the first one on my HD waiting for me to play past the first 15 minutes. Obviously it needs company.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Strazos on February 16, 2011, 07:33:10 PM
I still have the first one on my HD waiting for me to play past the first 15 minutes. Obviously it needs company.

Same. I liked the idea of the game, though I thought the combat was pretty brutal early on. Perhaps I'll go through soon with a walkthrough - about how long is an average playthrough?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on February 17, 2011, 01:02:11 AM
The Drakensang followup (prequel, I guess) just kicked out it's US release on Steam, for those that like their eurojank rpgs (at least, I think I'm talking to more than Sky here).

http://store.steampowered.com/app/33770/

It's made by a German dev and has a German publisher, but is only available in the US.  :uhrr:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 17, 2011, 06:44:45 AM
The Drakensang followup (prequel, I guess) just kicked out it's US release on Steam, for those that like their eurojank rpgs (at least, I think I'm talking to more than Sky here).

http://store.steampowered.com/app/33770/
:drill:

Gotta wait until the budget allows, but I'm psyched. The original was fun. Might be my second favorite erpg of recent years, behind Risen (because evoking Turkish as the protagonist in a Gothic game is wicked).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ard on February 17, 2011, 09:45:06 AM
It's made by a German dev and has a German publisher, but is only available in the US.  :uhrr:

I can't remember the full details, but I could have sworn the German release came out around a year ago.  The localization was massively delayed, and I think the dev house (Radon Labs) was closed in the process, with the localization team promising the game would still ship.  There's supposed to be a third game in the series due out yet, by some other dev house, but it looks like the rights have been passed around a few times now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Viin on February 18, 2011, 02:40:31 PM
I picked up the Force Unleashed (1 and 2) for 360 the other day, sure is a lot more fun than I thought it would be! Kinda hard too, on the 2nd to hardest setting.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kageru on February 18, 2011, 06:18:54 PM
It's made by a German dev and has a German publisher, but is only available in the US.  :uhrr:

I can't remember the full details, but I could have sworn the German release came out around a year ago.  The localization was massively delayed, and I think the dev house (Radon Labs) was closed in the process, with the localization team promising the game would still ship.  There's supposed to be a third game in the series due out yet, by some other dev house, but it looks like the rights have been passed around a few times now.

I think what he's saying is it's fun that localization is finished for the English language version but it's absent from non-US steam. It certainly doesn't show up on Australian steam, not even the trailer.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 18, 2011, 06:38:26 PM
You guys need to learn English, then.





:oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on February 19, 2011, 02:20:55 AM
I was referring to the weird restrictions on availability. DS:RoT is apparently only available in Germany, France and US right now, and the Steam version is US only. The game will apparently be released in the UK as well at some point, and also in Russia and Benelux. No word on other major territories such as Andorra.

I am not sure why they can't do an EU release and be done with it.
 
:uhrr: :uhrr:




Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 19, 2011, 08:56:38 AM
Andorra is a major territory?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on February 19, 2011, 09:15:20 AM
Andorra is a major territory?

If Benelux warrants its own release, then I suppose so.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on February 20, 2011, 03:44:23 AM
Andorra is a wee bit smaller than Benelux though. But in general this misses your valid point, a single European or European-Russian release would seem to make sense.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kageru on February 20, 2011, 06:11:13 PM

Or just do a global English release and stop bringing regional boundaries into a global distribution system?

Unless it is to give discounts to places that can't afford full price games (like the US if Australian prices are to be believed  :grin:), which is not the case here.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Segoris on February 23, 2011, 06:53:27 AM
What the fuck (http://ingame.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/02/22/6106856-kiss-controller-turns-tongues-into-joysticks)

Kissing controller that works with a bowling game currently. I guess this may be one of the next controller evolutions, though I doubt even this could make Wii games fun. Now, onto developing local co-op orgy controller!

 :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on February 23, 2011, 06:59:33 AM
That's amazingly creepy while also being totally pointless.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on March 10, 2011, 08:18:58 AM
Gaming = cocaine (http://www.mcvuk.com/news/43423/Two-hours-gaming-a-line-of-cocaine)

Quote
Computer game addiction can also spiral into violence as after playing violent games, they may turn their fantasy games into reality

 :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on March 10, 2011, 08:21:32 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXasCjUTNpE


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on March 10, 2011, 09:02:16 AM
Oh my, hahahhahahahh  :drill: :drill: :drill:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on March 10, 2011, 09:05:29 AM
Blimey


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on March 11, 2011, 05:39:39 AM
While cleaning up some obscure and frightening corner of my house, I found three bags full of games (and related boxes!) for the Atari ST, dating back in the '85-'91 timeframe. I thought I threw them away, so you can imagine the reaction when I actually unconvered them  :heart: . They are all mixed up, some floppy disk is damaged and all, but whoa, what a blast from the past. Maybe I'll post some pics or even do one of those freaky nerdy retro videos and post it on youtube :D.

Among others: Drakken, The Golden Path, Black Lamp, STOS programming language, Breach, Colonial Conquest, Red Storm Rising, King Quest I-IV, Maniac Mansion, Zak  McKraken, Ultima III and IV, Populous, Powermonger, various collections, Daley Thompson Olympic Challenge, Roy of the Rovers, Kick Off 2, Heroes of the Lance, Dragons of the Flame, Chrono Quest I, Speedball I, Ballystyx and countless others.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on March 11, 2011, 12:18:41 PM
I loved Red Storm Rising so much as a kid. I always wished I could play as the Soviets though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Minvaren on March 14, 2011, 05:44:20 AM
Didn't see this previously posted, thought it was amusing : Valve Time (http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time).   :awesome_for_real:

(pines for HL2 EP3)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on March 15, 2011, 05:36:38 AM
I just read that the New Mortal Kombat got banned in Australia, even after Appeal. I'd have created a new thread for it, but meh, it's MK. Easy enough to import anyway. I'll get right onto it after it's price drops by half or more. In 6 months or a year. Or whatever.

 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 22, 2011, 07:44:14 PM
Does not really warrant its own thread, but I decided to give a try of the PSN online storage thingy.  I was rewarded with the discovery that I can copy both my Dragon Age and Demon's Souls saves to this.  Oh, of only this had been around before I had two PS3 die last summer.  Of course, it's only 150MB so I wouldn't have been able to dump everything onto it, but still.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on March 28, 2011, 02:40:52 PM
Shane Bettenhausen shows off El Shaddai over at Giantbomb (http://www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-ex-el-shaddai-ascension-of-the-metatron/17-3937/).  You can skip past the first three minutes of the video if you don't care about Shane handing out candy to the Giantbomb guys.  Really like the premise and look to this game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 29, 2011, 05:53:51 AM
Hot.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on April 08, 2011, 04:06:00 PM
New trailer for Twisted Metal (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-broken-twisted-metal/712641).  Coming Oct. 4th.  Looks pretty much like Twisted Metal.  Kinda sad that Outlaw doesn't appear to be in this one.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 11, 2011, 08:05:57 PM
I liked Twisted Metal a lot, but do I need to buy/play a fifth one?  After the first one and Black, I feel like I'm done.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on April 13, 2011, 12:45:47 AM
I liked Twisted Metal a lot, but do I need to buy/play a fifth one?  After the first one and Black, I feel like I'm done.

Black was 10 years ago.  If nothing else I'd expect the online mutliplayer to be a big improvement over Black Online.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 13, 2011, 08:37:58 AM
I don't play multiplayer, except in Demon's Souls, so that's a non-issue.

I'm not confident that the mere passage of time is enough to produce a must-have game.  Refer to TM III. :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on April 13, 2011, 10:16:58 AM
I learned today of An Apology for Roger Ebert by Brian Moriarty (http://www.ludix.com/moriarty/apology.html).

Good stuff.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nebu on April 13, 2011, 10:53:09 AM
I learned today of An Apology for Roger Ebert by Brian Moriarty (http://www.ludix.com/moriarty/apology.html).

Good stuff.

Really enjoyed the read.  Thanks for the link.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 13, 2011, 11:04:27 AM
Oh, Stardock. Thanks for reminding me why I don't own GalCiv2.

Just got an email that I can buy it ON SALE for 30% off the ULTIMATE EDITION!!!!

$28 for a 5 year old game who's last expansion was released 3 years ago. Srsly, FOAD.

Why, Kael, WHY?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on April 13, 2011, 11:09:46 AM
Oh, Stardock. Thanks for reminding me why I don't own GalCiv2.

Just got an email that I can buy it ON SALE for 30% off the ULTIMATE EDITION!!!!

$28 for a 5 year old game who's last expansion was released 3 years ago. Srsly, FOAD.

Why, Kael, WHY?

Stage 2: Anger


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on April 13, 2011, 11:10:58 AM
Oh, Stardock. Thanks for reminding me why I don't own GalCiv2.

Just got an email that I can buy it ON SALE for 30% off the ULTIMATE EDITION!!!!

$28 for a 5 year old game who's last expansion was released 3 years ago. Srsly, FOAD.

Why, Kael, WHY?

But now you can also get a one year warranty on your bits and preorder the latest games while you shop! Also, have you considered buying used instead?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 14, 2011, 06:56:35 AM
I learned today of An Apology for Roger Ebert by Brian Moriarty (http://www.ludix.com/moriarty/apology.html).

Good stuff.

Fantastic read.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on April 14, 2011, 08:16:16 AM
I file it under "really annoying read" personally. I've never understood why people are always trying to start this debate around games with no narrative. "Is M.U.L.E. art?" is a much harder question to answer than (for example) "Is Red Dead Redemption art?", especially when you're comparing it to a different art form that is almost entirely narrative.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on April 14, 2011, 01:10:56 PM
CD Projekt apparently is trying very hard to push GOG with the Witcher 2 (http://www.shacknews.com/article/68117/witcher-2-uses-securom-wont).  The Witcher 2 will have SecuROM, but not if purchased on GOG and will only have pre-loading on GOG.


Quote
CD Projekt revealed that The Witcher 2 will utilize SecuROM copy-protection for its retail release, deciding it was the least intrusive way to protect its content from piracy. Though they are aware some gamers will groan at the decision to use SecuROM, CD Projekt noted that the game will allow for "unlimited installations on an unlimited number of computers" and allow "play on up to five computers at once." The game requires an internet connection for the game's initial activation. According to the presentation, this will ensure that The Witcher 2 cannot be played before the game's May 17 release.

The Witcher 2 will also be available on digital distribution platforms, including DRM-free on Good Old Games (GOG.com).

Although the game will include a serial code for activation, users that purchase the game on GOG.com will not require the code to play the game. The GOG.com release will come completely unlocked; however, a code will be included for users that wish to download future DLC--which requires the serial key to access the content.  I don't even really give a shit about Securom that much, but they way they went about this just seems kinda stupid.  No solid word yet on whether or not the Steam version will have Securom.

Beginning May 10, users that have pre-purchased The Witcher 2 on GOG.com will have the ability to pre-load 90% of the final game. Good Old Games will be the only digital distribution platform that will feature a pre-load for the game.

Unlike the original game in the series, The Witcher 2 will not see any censorship between regions. Each region will feature the same story and gameplay. Additionally, the sequel features up to sixteen different endings. During the conference, CD Projekt issued a challenge to players of The Witcher 2: the first person to unlock all sixteen endings (and prove it with a save file), will be awarded a special t-shirt.


I get that they want to really promote their game on their DD system, but couldn't they just stick with the exclusive bonus stuff they were offering?  Preventing the other digital distribution shops from allowing pre-loading, and announcing that "oh yeah, if you guys want the Securom-free version of the game you have to buy it here", just seems like a dick move.  At the very least this is the kind of thing that they maybe should have announced way back when they let retailers start taking pre-orders.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on April 14, 2011, 02:09:26 PM
Yeah, the pre-order bonus of "does not have digital fucking herpes" is a pretty big selling point in my mind.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on April 14, 2011, 02:11:17 PM
Yah, still buying on Steam.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 14, 2011, 08:48:18 PM
Yeah, what complete douchebags allowing unlimited installs on unlimited machines and five simultaneous playable installs. I know I need to be playing it on at least a dozen computers at the same time.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on April 14, 2011, 08:49:49 PM
It'll pk ur flax.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on April 15, 2011, 03:47:22 AM
Yeah, what complete douchebags allowing unlimited installs on unlimited machines and five simultaneous playable installs. I know I need to be playing it on at least a dozen computers at the same time.

I wasn't suggesting they were douchebags because I think the DRM is too strict.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 15, 2011, 07:09:53 AM
I file it under "really annoying read" personally. I've never understood why people are always trying to start this debate around games with no narrative. "Is M.U.L.E. art?" is a much harder question to answer than (for example) "Is Red Dead Redemption art?", especially when you're comparing it to a different art form that is almost entirely narrative.

I am a philosopher at heart and am mainly fascinated by the exploration of what defines art.  So, yes, it's a dumb thing to argue and I agree with Ebert that hardly any movies are art.  Hardly anything is, in any medium.  I'm a fan of thought processes and this is an interesting one.

It'll pk ur flax.

Nice reference. :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 15, 2011, 08:29:51 AM
First!

I hope Brad reads this.

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/85916/fix_elemental.png)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on April 15, 2011, 08:40:10 AM

It'll pk ur flax.

Nice reference. :oh_i_see:

But it's not.  Oh!

<frye eye squint image goes here>


I'm not really afraid of SecuROM.  They're going to have to try harder.


New Nintendo console annoucement in June apparently.  Time to get dismissive/angry/disappointed in anticipation.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on April 15, 2011, 09:05:10 AM
First!

I hope Brad reads this.

You glorious bastard.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sir T on April 20, 2011, 12:44:33 PM
Stardock are also having a 30% off sale for Sins of a Solar Empire Trinity (Game and its two expansions) right now. That's certainly well worth the money.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 22, 2011, 11:41:51 AM
First!

I hope Brad reads this.

You glorious bastard.

It persists.

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/85916/galcivii_sale_fb.png)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on April 22, 2011, 11:43:46 AM
I'm not shocked to find he's too clueless to simply delete your post.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 22, 2011, 11:44:49 AM
Also, look into this exotic and rare distribution system created by bringing water to the boiling point and learn how to price an ancient niche game to sell, ffs.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 22, 2011, 07:11:35 PM
I actually thought Impulse was a fine product, at least once they ditched that token shit.  They should have sold Elemental to GameStop.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on April 27, 2011, 10:43:57 AM
Oh lol, that one guy is at it again on RPS.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 29, 2011, 07:00:13 PM
Torchlight has been a bit crashy lately, wondering if it's me or what.  So ready for the sequel.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on May 01, 2011, 12:10:02 AM
Portal 2 is Amazon's Deal of the Day.  $35 for PS3/360, $30 for PC. (http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/ref=amb_link_85826191_2/177-2195910-3229825?tag=cheapassgam08-20&ie=UTF8&docId=1000208101&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=right-blog-0&pf_rd_r=1Q6Y9F1SDH478CJ15JZ6&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1280001262&pf_rd_i=409566)

They've also got Mortal Kombat down to $39.99 now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 02, 2011, 12:40:34 PM
I fired up Dead Space today (PC) and remembered how much the mousing in menus sucks.  I mean, it's maddening and I can generally put up with some shit-ass-crap control schemes.  I'm thinking abut what my options are.  There is the obvious copout of purchasing it on a console, but that's sending the wrong message and would also make my ass pucker due to buying a game twice again.  Maybe there are some modifications I can do to the PC versions.  All I know is that I want to play it now and I don't have much time to waste on making it tolerable.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on May 02, 2011, 12:44:46 PM
Sounds what I had to put up with playing Alpha Protocol.  Extensive UI tweaking made it tollerable. Barely.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on May 02, 2011, 03:45:31 PM
I fired up Dead Space today (PC) and remembered how much the mousing in menus sucks.  I mean, it's maddening and I can generally put up with some shit-ass-crap control schemes.  I'm thinking abut what my options are.  There is the obvious copout of purchasing it on a console, but that's sending the wrong message and would also make my ass pucker due to buying a game twice again.  Maybe there are some modifications I can do to the PC versions.  All I know is that I want to play it now and I don't have much time to waste on making it tolerable.

Just started playing through it myself, and found the same thing at first.  But all the menus are navigable with the arrow keys as well (options, inventory, map, everything), as far as I've found, which solves the problem for me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on May 02, 2011, 04:09:50 PM
Anyone heard anything about Brink?  It looked pretty generic to me but then I heard the people who made Enemy Territory are making it and that piqued my interest.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Strazos on May 02, 2011, 05:41:25 PM
Bought DA:O Ultimate edition today for $20 since it came with that (still) pricey expansion and DLC. Unfortunately, the expansion is not some sort of separate install - I was hoping to have a DA:O copy to gift.  :oh_i_see:

Though, I'm hoping my saves will be transferable. I'm guessing I'll have to do that manually.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on May 03, 2011, 06:15:39 AM
There is the obvious copout of purchasing it on a console, but that's sending the wrong message and would also make my ass pucker due to buying a game twice again.  Maybe there are some modifications I can do to the PC versions.  All I know is that I want to play it now and I don't have much time to waste on making it tolerable.
Have you tried using a gamepad? Kinda destroys the mouse for aiming thing the pc has going for it, but at least you wouldn't have to buy it again.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 03, 2011, 08:08:34 AM
There is the obvious copout of purchasing it on a console, but that's sending the wrong message and would also make my ass pucker due to buying a game twice again.  Maybe there are some modifications I can do to the PC versions.  All I know is that I want to play it now and I don't have much time to waste on making it tolerable.
Have you tried using a gamepad? Kinda destroys the mouse for aiming thing the pc has going for it, but at least you wouldn't have to buy it again.

This is Plan C.  Or D, I don't know.  As you say, I bought it on PC so I could aim with the mouse.  This works great, it's the menus that bother me since the mouse pointer code is obviously the same as the thumb stick code.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on May 03, 2011, 12:12:23 PM
Is there an ini file you can tweak?  In the past there have been games with a horribly slow mouse in menus that I could fix by changing a few constants.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Amaron on May 03, 2011, 12:24:04 PM
Anyone heard anything about Brink?  It looked pretty generic to me but then I heard the people who made Enemy Territory are making it and that piqued my interest.

I believe that's the shooter that has parkour.  Basically CoD meets Mirror's Edge?   Looked pretty cool when I watched some vids of it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 03, 2011, 12:32:42 PM
Is there an ini file you can tweak?  In the past there have been games with a horribly slow mouse in menus that I could fix by changing a few constants.

It's not that it's slow, it's that it doesn't start moving when I move the mouse and it keeps gliding after I stop the mouse.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on May 03, 2011, 01:37:38 PM
Anyone heard anything about Brink?  It looked pretty generic to me but then I heard the people who made Enemy Territory are making it and that piqued my interest.

I believe that's the shooter that has parkour.  Basically CoD meets Mirror's Edge?   Looked pretty cool when I watched some vids of it.

Yeah, it sounds pretty neat in theory, but I'm feeling pretty good on shooters.  Maybe I'll just wait to hear some buzz after release.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on May 03, 2011, 03:47:55 PM
It's not that it's slow, it's that it doesn't start moving when I move the mouse and it keeps gliding after I stop the mouse.
Sounds like software mouse.  You need to look for an option to force it to hardware.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nightblade on May 03, 2011, 06:52:19 PM
Anyone heard anything about Brink?  It looked pretty generic to me but then I heard the people who made Enemy Territory are making it and that piqued my interest.

I believe that's the shooter that has parkour.  Basically CoD meets Mirror's Edge?   Looked pretty cool when I watched some vids of it.

Yeah, it sounds pretty neat in theory, but I'm feeling pretty good on shooters.  Maybe I'll just wait to hear some buzz after release.

If I had to wager it's going to be another PoS forgettable built in mouse acceleration performance issue laden FPS ala bulletstorm, homefront and so on. Petulant dev talk doesn't fill me with much faith either. Would be nice if I was wrong though, haven't had a decent shooter since TF2, BC2 was pretty close though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on May 03, 2011, 07:02:18 PM
Anyone heard anything about Brink?  It looked pretty generic to me but then I heard the people who made Enemy Territory are making it and that piqued my interest.

I believe that's the shooter that has parkour.  Basically CoD meets Mirror's Edge?   Looked pretty cool when I watched some vids of it.

Yeah, it sounds pretty neat in theory, but I'm feeling pretty good on shooters.  Maybe I'll just wait to hear some buzz after release.

If I had to wager it's going to be another PoS forgettable built in mouse acceleration performance issue laden FPS ala bulletstorm, homefront and so on. Petulant dev talk doesn't fill me with much faith either. Would be nice if I was wrong though, haven't had a decent shooter since TF2, BC2 was pretty close though.

This is the feeling I get looking at it, which is why I dismissed it initially.  In fact, the only thing at all that has me interested in how much I loved Enemy Territory.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Strazos on May 03, 2011, 07:33:17 PM
Wolfenstein, or Quake Wars?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Stormwaltz on May 03, 2011, 07:40:43 PM
I believe that's the shooter that has parkour.  Basically CoD meets Mirror's Edge?

Don't forget the avatar customization (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi-WIrr0vTs). Which probably doesn't mean much to FPS junkies, but as an MMORPG player, I think it's neat.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Strazos on May 03, 2011, 07:43:21 PM
Oh, was this the game where the devs weren't going to allow headshot kills because they don't think it's fun for the players or some-such nonsense?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on May 03, 2011, 08:33:06 PM
Wolfenstein, or Quake Wars?

Both, actually.  But I was referring to Wolfenstein as the one I liked a lot.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on May 03, 2011, 08:34:42 PM
Oh, was this the game where the devs weren't going to allow headshot kills because they don't think it's fun for the players or some-such nonsense?

There are a ton of games that take that stance, as far as I know.  Doesn't really seem that strange to me, though I do roll my eyes when they say "no headshots" in a game with dedicated snipers.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Strazos on May 03, 2011, 08:55:15 PM
If a game isn't going to have locational damage scaling, that's fine. But if you have a sniper rifle, and award more damage for head shots...but it still takes 3 shots to kill, that seems silly.

EDIT: Also, Wolfenstein: ET was one of my all-time favorite multiplayer shooters of all time. I loved me some recon and...whatever class got to toss around mortar/airstrikes. I might even have some old screenshots of obnoxious scores hanging around.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kageru on May 04, 2011, 04:11:55 AM

What drives me nuts is that lots of the European games (Grotesque tactics, Magicka and quite a few others) not only don't respect windows settings for left handed mouse they don't allow you to remap it. Grotesque tactics sort of let me remap it but it didn't actually work.

Brink looked somewhat fun in a borderlands sort of "lots of guns" way and the same Junkyard ambience. How deep it is in practice would be a big question. But at 90 USD$ for Australians they can go f**k themselves.
 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Amaron on May 04, 2011, 05:52:45 AM
If I had to wager it's going to be another PoS forgettable built in mouse acceleration performance issue laden FPS ala bulletstorm, homefront and so on. Petulant dev talk doesn't fill me with much faith either. Would be nice if I was wrong though, haven't had a decent shooter since TF2, BC2 was pretty close though.

I don't think it's going to be that bad because it's at least been mostly touted as a multiplayer game.  A lot of the stuff I saw led me to believe they are still fairly PC centric as well.   That of course doesn't mean it will be any good though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: bhodi on May 04, 2011, 01:18:35 PM
I also had the mouse control issue in dead space one. It's caused from not being able to turn off vsync. I managed to make it tolerable by dropping the res by quite a bit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nightblade on May 04, 2011, 01:28:22 PM
Quote
I don't think it's going to be that bad because it's at least been mostly touted as a multiplayer game.  A lot of the stuff I saw led me to believe they are still fairly PC centric as well.   That of course doesn't mean it will be any good though.

What did you see that led you to believe it was going to be PC centric? I remember DICE foaming at the mouth about how they were PC developers first and then I fire up to single player and find the mouse controls nearly unusable, no performance scaling and updates that disappear so that they can "focus on Battlefield 3, this time we're for reals".


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Strazos on May 04, 2011, 02:30:42 PM
I also had the mouse control issue in dead space one. It's caused from not being able to turn off vsync. I managed to make it tolerable by dropping the res by quite a bit.

It seems that in most of my games now I HAVE to have vsync on or else I get terrible tearing. I haven't really noticed a drop in input response, but it's possible I've just adapted without realizing it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 05, 2011, 05:22:36 PM
It's not that it's slow, it's that it doesn't start moving when I move the mouse and it keeps gliding after I stop the mouse.
Sounds like software mouse.  You need to look for an option to force it to hardware.

Google says I'm stuck with it.  Google also says "use a gamepad" and I just might do that.

I'm getting the idea that Black Ops is a good game.  Someone tell me that's bullshit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on May 05, 2011, 05:52:35 PM
It's not that it's slow, it's that it doesn't start moving when I move the mouse and it keeps gliding after I stop the mouse.
Sounds like software mouse.  You need to look for an option to force it to hardware.

Google says I'm stuck with it.  Google also says "use a gamepad" and I just might do that.

I'm getting the idea that Black Ops is a good game.  Someone tell me that's bullshit.

Black Ops is a good multiplayer twitch shooter ala Counter Strike, the single player is trash.  If that sounds up your ally, its a solid choice.  I still get some play out of it when I'm in the mood for a change of pace from Battlefield: BC2.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 05, 2011, 05:55:05 PM
I played CoD4 with some friends and it was fun even though I was the worst one.  Now, however, one of the guys' twelve-year-old son plays and he kicks everyone in the fucking balls.  Damn kids and their reflexes.  So I suppose I'll pass.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on May 07, 2011, 08:25:17 AM
30 minute interview with Gabe Newell

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMgfPU9y3yo

Quote
    What is Valve up to these days?

    With the addition of STEAM to the PSN is Valve planning on shifting development focus to consoles or are you going to remain developing games primarily for the PC?

    How does Valve plan on differentiating the game from the very popular "League of Legends"?

    How do micro transactions affect the future of Valve's business model?

    Do you still plan on making single player games? (dispelling a rumor)

    Do you ever get a chance to play games for fun anymore? If so, what games are you playing?

    Do you plan on deviating from SOURCE or do you plan on indefinitely updating the current engine?

    What games in the last decade do you believe have improved the gaming industry?

    Will Chell from Portal and Gordon Freeman from HL be meeting?

    Why are some of your most famous protagonists silent? How do you feel this affects the games as a whole?

    What advice would you give to somebody aspiring to get into the gaming industry?

    I read that you collect knives. How many knives do you own? What do you like about them?

    What was your favorite game to work on?

Kind of interesting to listen to.  Some of it goes beyond the questions listed here.  Anyway, lots of interesting insight from Gabe on their design process and challenges they face, etc.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on May 08, 2011, 12:20:28 AM
is there a cliff's notes version in text? I can't be arsed listening to a 30 minute interview.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Amaron on May 08, 2011, 07:25:43 AM
What did you see that led you to believe it was going to be PC centric? I remember DICE foaming at the mouth about how they were PC developers first and then I fire up to single player and find the mouse controls nearly unusable, no performance scaling and updates that disappear so that they can "focus on Battlefield 3, this time we're for reals".

No it wasn't anything they claimed.  I can't say as it was anything specific and really it's just a vague hunch after seeing several videos.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on May 09, 2011, 11:38:13 AM
Gabe Newell: We've moved beyond the episodic model (http://www.develop-online.net/news/37625/Newell-Weve-moved-beyond-the-episodic-model)

So... no HL2:Ep3?  :sad:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on May 09, 2011, 11:46:46 AM
Gabe Newell: We've moved beyond the episodic model (http://www.develop-online.net/news/37625/Newell-Weve-moved-beyond-the-episodic-model)

So... no HL2:Ep3?  :sad:

Whether there is or not, I feel like this "Games as a service" model isn't something I like the sound of too much.  Sounds like microtransactions.  I guess we've been going more and more that way for years, so it shouldn't surprise me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: stu on May 09, 2011, 12:08:34 PM
I think what he's saying is that because Valve's fate is tied so closely to the Steam community, they want to have a constant release of content (like what the TF2 devs pump out). He says they get more consistent quality from shorter dev cycles, which is fine with me. If your company takes forever to pump out games, why not look for ways to release content in blocks? I guess the problem they've run into is they don't have a way to tie their crown jewel IP into that format and are using Portal 2 as a test bed.

edit: plus, games on Steam are always moderately priced. It's not like PSN, where items never drop from full price unless you pay it forward with a Plus sub. I mean, they even make you pay for avatars on there. ugghgh


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on May 09, 2011, 12:22:50 PM
It only works for games like TF2. Unless he's implying that Valve is abandoning story-based games. I mean, what would a hat or gun update do for HL3?

And there's definitely an angle they'll mine more in the future with steam, already being able to link over youtube stuff from within steam. I mean...I'm not on facebook but I'm on steam!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on May 09, 2011, 12:34:48 PM
I guess the problem they've run into is they don't have a way to tie their crown jewel IP into that format and are using Portal 2 as a test bed.


Is Half Life even their key franchise anymore?  I bet people younger than 18-20 don't even know what it is, on average.  Hell, even when the original Counter Strike was popular there were tons of people who had no idea what Half Life was, and that was a mod for HL for years before it was stand alone.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 09, 2011, 01:24:14 PM
Pretty sure their key franchise is Counter-Strike.

Also I noticed that gog.com has decided to ignore its customers' geo-location... just in time for the Witcher 2 release.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on May 09, 2011, 01:35:10 PM
Gabe Newell: We've moved beyond the episodic model (http://www.develop-online.net/news/37625/Newell-Weve-moved-beyond-the-episodic-model)

So... no HL2:Ep3?  :sad:

Whether there is or not, I feel like this "Games as a service" model isn't something I like the sound of too much.  Sounds like microtransactions.  I guess we've been going more and more that way for years, so it shouldn't surprise me.

I can understand the concept inside the framework of games like Portal, TF2, LFD2 and Counterstrike. You start with a small game which is in itself a platform and a service, then you expand within. So you add a constant stream of small additions, which keeps people interested, but you avoid hassle at the front end by making smaller games. You can expand the definition of the game with new modes, for example challenge maps in Portal 2. I agree though, I don't see clearly how this works for a story-based single-player game. Perhaps in the fullness of time Valve will just move away from that. Frankly, other than Half-Life, all their other games fall into the 'Games as a service' model much better: Dota2, TF2, Alien Swarm, LFD2, CS. None of these are particularly story based in a way that cannot be addressed with the addition of a new map. The only way I could see it working for a story-based game would be in the context of some hub-based game where the stream of content is akin to DLC that you get in hour-long chunks or so. This wouldn't seem on the face of things to support a good narrative though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: stu on May 09, 2011, 05:57:28 PM
I would say they are taking the notion that if you know your world well enough, story will come out in the atmosphere and environment rather than through cut scenes. Like the messages on walls in L4D or Portal. By placing emphasis on settings, you get more flexibility in the long run. They may have hamstrung themselves with HL because the story has to keep escalating in quality in order to provide a meaningful experience with each new iteration.




Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: bhodi on May 10, 2011, 11:39:56 AM
It only works for games like TF2. Unless he's implying that Valve is abandoning story-based games. I mean, what would a hat or gun update do for HL3?
Look at mass effect 2 DLC as an example of gradual releases for a single player game to keep people interested in the wider story/universe.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 10, 2011, 12:44:58 PM
The Mass Effect DLC is a great example.

The problem that I see with letting the story seep out as a player discovers the world is that some of it comes across as a bit too obvious and ham-handed.  I keep wondering who has left all that graffiti in the Aperture Enrichment center, and how did they determine where to put those arrows?  Obviously the arrows are there to lead the player on, and this is an extreme version of letting the world tell the story.  Another one is the smear on the wall in Dead Space that tells you to shoot off their limbs; this always has a Castle Aaaaarrghh feel to it.  That tactic didn't seem to work out for the other fellow, but he had time to write this on a wall?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on May 10, 2011, 12:45:07 PM
Excellent example! Hadn't thought of it.

I also didn't consider Gabe has a front row seat for what's selling on Steam and loves statistics.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on May 10, 2011, 01:14:55 PM
I keep wondering who has left all that graffiti in the Aperture Enrichment center, and how did they determine where to put those arrows? 

Valve did an entire comic to answer that question. (http://www.thinkwithportals.com/comic/)   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on May 10, 2011, 02:31:55 PM
That comic is terrible.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on May 10, 2011, 02:45:02 PM
New challenger for worst game ever? Thor: God of Thunder Review . (http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/thor/review.html)  Would have been much better if Kevin Van Ord took a shot at this..


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on May 10, 2011, 06:32:14 PM
Gabe Newell: We've moved beyond the episodic model (http://www.develop-online.net/news/37625/Newell-Weve-moved-beyond-the-episodic-model)

So... no HL2:Ep3?  :sad:

Might just be Half-Life 3 instead. I think by "moved beyond" he means "it was an utter failure in execution".


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on May 10, 2011, 07:21:27 PM
The Mass Effect DLC is a great example.

I haven't played ME yet, but the downside to that sort of thing is Alan Wake syndrome, where they deliberately left out the ending to the game/story in order to sell it to you as separate DLC. And while not the most expensive, at 560msp a pop, not on the cheap side, either. A pretty good reason to skip that particular game. (For me, anyway).



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on May 11, 2011, 12:35:44 AM
The problem that I see with letting the story seep out as a player discovers the world is that some of it comes across as a bit too obvious and ham-handed.  I keep wondering who has left all that graffiti in the Aperture Enrichment center, and how did they determine where to put those arrows?  Obviously the arrows are there to lead the player on, and this is an extreme version of letting the world tell the story.  Another one is the smear on the wall in Dead Space that tells you to shoot off their limbs; this always has a Castle Aaaaarrghh feel to it.  That tactic didn't seem to work out for the other fellow, but he had time to write this on a wall?

I went to a GDC presentation about this sort of thing. Basically you have graffiti and audio logs and...well that's basically it. In one or two games it's effective but it's reaching the point of generic cliche. I remember playing Fatal Frame and at that time the audio tapes you found were really cool, now I roll my eyes when a new game advertises the incredible immersion of discovering audio logs.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on May 11, 2011, 05:15:11 AM
has reached


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 11, 2011, 01:48:41 PM
Valve did an entire comic to answer that question. (http://www.thinkwithportals.com/comic/)   :awesome_for_real:

what


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 11, 2011, 01:51:20 PM
The problem that I see with letting the story seep out as a player discovers the world is that some of it comes across as a bit too obvious and ham-handed.  I keep wondering who has left all that graffiti in the Aperture Enrichment center, and how did they determine where to put those arrows?  Obviously the arrows are there to lead the player on, and this is an extreme version of letting the world tell the story.  Another one is the smear on the wall in Dead Space that tells you to shoot off their limbs; this always has a Castle Aaaaarrghh feel to it.  That tactic didn't seem to work out for the other fellow, but he had time to write this on a wall?

I went to a GDC presentation about this sort of thing. Basically you have graffiti and audio logs and...well that's basically it. In one or two games it's effective but it's reaching the point of generic cliche. I remember playing Fatal Frame and at that time the audio tapes you found were really cool, now I roll my eyes when a new game advertises the incredible immersion of discovering audio logs.

I agree completely on this.  To me this was stale after System Shock 2.  I made fun of it, but HL2 at least had NPCs for you to talk to instead of recordings.  It's one of those issues that every designer knows about but so far no one has devised a good replacement for.  When someone does, it will be like the Chronicles of Riddick health system all over again.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on May 11, 2011, 04:13:59 PM
What was that? Regenerating health?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 12, 2011, 09:06:27 AM
Yes, in the primal form it was regenerating health as long as you didn't lose an entire "block" of health.  I believe this led not only to immediate clones but also to the modern day implementation of full regeneration if you can just hide behind a tree for a bit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 18, 2011, 01:10:02 PM
Looks like the Wii is $150 now and Twilight Princess is $20 (overpriced).  Another kick-Sony-while-he's-down or business-as-usual?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on May 18, 2011, 01:37:52 PM
Looks like the Wii is $150 now and Twilight Princess is $20 (overpriced).  Another kick-Sony-while-he's-down or business-as-usual?

I think it's just the response to flagging Wii sales combined with the fact that they're due to show a new home console this E3.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 18, 2011, 09:52:14 PM
You are probably right, I'm just not giving much thought to this new console.  I expect very little.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on May 21, 2011, 09:37:36 PM
Anyone have any advice on a nice gaming headset?  I think mine is starting to die, so I want to shop around a bit before they bite it completely.  I've heard good things about Steel Series, but it might be more than I want/need.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on May 21, 2011, 10:08:52 PM
I've owned about six pairs in 10 years, ranging from $15 to $120.  I'm back to using a $20 simple cheap headset because all the upper end ones have janky stuff going on. 

My Steel Series had a short boom that I had to pull forward with one hand to talk loud enough for folks to hear me.  I wasn't impressed with the design, either.  It was large, heavy and got sweaty.  ymmv.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Strazos on May 21, 2011, 10:32:15 PM
The logitech sets I've had generally work nicely, though the one I have cuts out in one of the ears sometimes. I think it's because it has a rather long cord which is prone to getting stuck under the wheels of my chair.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sjofn on May 21, 2011, 11:40:46 PM
I like logitech too, for whatever that may be worth.

Next Sims 3 expansion is apparently out at the end of the month. Sounds like the devs went "oooohhhh riiiiiight, it's a sandbox game" and mostly focused on beefing up more social stuff for the Sims in the ages that aren't young adult/adult. I know I'm the only one who cares, but goddammit, I need to say it somewhere.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: caladein on May 22, 2011, 12:13:03 AM
Yeah, this one looks like one whose features I won't wind up avoiding nearly entirely (hello to you Late Night and your stupid elevators) after a week.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sjofn on May 22, 2011, 05:15:41 PM
The elevators are pretty shitty, yeah. I built a bunch of my own nightclubs and crap for my other neighborhoods and ditched the new one because of them. Most of the rest of Late Night I liked though, although trying to be a band seems pretty buggy too.

I still miss having weather, though. :((((((((


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on May 25, 2011, 05:21:36 AM
Caught this from Kotaku, got a giggle.

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In a financial meeting, Square Enix president Yoichi Wada said the company was working on a big MMO in addition to Final Fantasy XIV. "I think we will reveal it sometime this year," said Wada.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Amaron on May 27, 2011, 06:25:19 AM
(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/3118/facebookdisaster.png)

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/44508/EA-preparing-Simpsons-Facebook-game (http://www.mcvuk.com/news/44508/EA-preparing-Simpsons-Facebook-game)

 :mob:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on May 27, 2011, 07:55:36 AM
11 Million player deaths in Just Cause 2 mapped. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEoxaGkNcrg&feature=player_embedded#at=59)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nightblade on May 27, 2011, 08:34:33 AM
Anyone have any advice on a nice gaming headset?  I think mine is starting to die, so I want to shop around a bit before they bite it completely.  I've heard good things about Steel Series, but it might be more than I want/need.

HD555 Sennheiser headphones - Superior quality at a great price. Great durability too. I once threw them onto the floor in a fit of rage last year and they still work perfectly. http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD555-Professional-Headphones-Channeling/dp/B0001FTVDQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1306510772&sr=8-1 I bought them for 169 but Im seeing them for 84.99 now. Fantastic product.

For the mic, you can buy a zalman mic that clips on to the headset's single wire. http://www.amazon.com/Zalman-Microphone-Zm-Mic1-Sensitivity-Headphone/dp/B00029MTMQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1306510805&sr=8-1 I use this, great range and clarity.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on May 27, 2011, 09:34:52 AM
That's an interesting idea. I have a decent pair of cheap Sennheisers (hd280) for monitoring my mixer, a clip-on mic would be great for those. On the other hand, I like to keep the headphones for voice and have the game sound through the speakers.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on May 27, 2011, 09:44:27 AM
I cannot recommend Sennheiser's highly enough; I have a pair of HD202s for work and they are ideally suited.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ffc on May 27, 2011, 11:23:26 AM
Saw this post about the "official" PS3 headset (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/05/27/new-official-wireless-stereo-headset-coming-for-ps3/) today.

A nice feature of the HD555 is it's open meaning you get a bigger sound stage so you can really pinpoint which directions sounds are coming from in contrast to closed headsets. Open headsets mean less sound isolation though so if you play in a noisy environment you will hear stuff going on around you and your environment will also hear you.  A bonus is these also make your ears less hot.

If playing on a console, you can add the Astro Mixamp for virtual surround sound and chat volume control or the Turtle Beach DSS with no chat volume control.

Coming from my AXPRO headset, which impressed me at first but now I hate for a variety of reasons, stay away from headsets touting multiple speakers in each ear.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ivanneth on May 27, 2011, 04:38:00 PM
HD555 Sennheiser headphones - Superior quality at a great price. Great durability too. I once threw them onto the floor in a fit of rage last year and they still work perfectly. http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD555-Professional-Headphones-Channeling/dp/B0001FTVDQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1306510772&sr=8-1 I bought them for 169 but Im seeing them for 84.99 now. Fantastic product.

I have a pair of these. They're terrific - good quality, and most importantly they're comfortable. I can wear them for hours at a time and my ears don't hurt afterward. A lot of headphones are painful if you wear them for more than just a few minutes at a time.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on May 27, 2011, 04:44:39 PM
Feel similarly about my Logitech G35 headset, very comfortable.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Strazos on May 27, 2011, 08:22:14 PM
That's an interesting idea. I have a decent pair of cheap Sennheisers (hd280) for monitoring my mixer, a clip-on mic would be great for those. On the other hand, I like to keep the headphones for voice and have the game sound through the speakers.

How do you even do that? I would be interested to know if it's even possible.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on May 29, 2011, 05:23:38 PM
Not really sure where to post it - so randomness goes here.   http://www.kongregate.com/games/VagaDragon/heal-a-mole

Faithful recreation imo.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on May 29, 2011, 06:55:56 PM
How do you even do that? I would be interested to know if it's even possible.
USB headset and route voice comm app into that, game sounds through speakers/sound card.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: caladein on May 29, 2011, 07:10:25 PM
Yes.  A USB headset is its own soundcard so any VOIP program can route its output/input to it.

You can do a similar thing with a normal headset if you've got a dedicated soundcard and onboard sound.  That's how I've got the TV set-up in my room.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Strazos on May 29, 2011, 07:22:50 PM
Interesting...is it easy to swap back-and-forth between routing everything to the USB headset, and routing only the voice to it? I think I would like to do this at time, but often I simply want everything to come through the headphones.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on May 29, 2011, 10:50:31 PM
Probably depends on what software you're using; in Ventrilo it's a simple dropdown menu to change from one output device to another.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ard on June 02, 2011, 12:49:02 PM
Welp, GoG just announced a publishing deal with EA.  They're going to be putting out a chunk of EA's old backlog, starting with Dungeon Keeper, Ultima Underworld, and Wing Commander:  Privateer, with Alpha Centauri coming down the pipe shortly also.  Looks like they've got their hooks into the old bullfrog, maxis, and origin stuff, so cross your fingers. 

http://www.gog.com/en/news/gog_com_s_catalog_gets_huge_with_addition_of_classic_ea_titles


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: caladein on June 02, 2011, 03:35:22 PM
Interesting...is it easy to swap back-and-forth between routing everything to the USB headset, and routing only the voice to it? I think I would like to do this at time, but often I simply want everything to come through the headphones.

Well, you won't be able to do it on the fly with games.  Most don't seem to like switching audio outputs midstream.  Aside from that it's pretty simple.

Have everything set to "Default Device" except for your VOIP program(s) which you've set specifically to go to the headset.  In Mumble, go to Configure -> Settings -> Audio Output, and that'll look like:


Then, you just need to change the default device in Windows whenever you want to swap everything else from the speakers to the headset or back.  In Windows 7, you can either get to it from Sound in the Control Panel or by right-clicking on the volume setting in the notification area and choosing Playback devices:


You could also get your AutoIt on (http://superuser.com/questions/22996/windows-vista-7-managing-multiple-audio-playback-devices), which I'm always on the verge of doing :uhrr:.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Strazos on June 02, 2011, 03:38:47 PM
So if I only use onboard sound, and added a USB headset...I could do this maybe?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: caladein on June 02, 2011, 04:25:06 PM
Should be able to, yeah.  I haven't run into a USB headset that didn't also count as its own soundcard to Windows.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Strazos on June 02, 2011, 05:50:38 PM
Totally off-topic, but for whatever reason today I had the thought that it was unfortunate that neither GOG nor Steam have either of the NOLF games - they were great.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on June 05, 2011, 05:12:25 PM
Anyone have any advice on a nice gaming headset?  I think mine is starting to die, so I want to shop around a bit before they bite it completely.  I've heard good things about Steel Series, but it might be more than I want/need.

I keep hearing about how wonderful Turtle Beach ones are supposed to be. I don't use headphones at all though, so I can't vouch either way.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: lamaros on June 05, 2011, 05:23:40 PM
Just on headphones again: I have a paid of Sennheiser HD570s that I have had since about 2003-2003. They are still great and I use them nearly every day. Great computer/gaming headphones.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on June 08, 2011, 09:22:29 AM
11 Million player deaths in Just Cause 2 mapped. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEoxaGkNcrg&feature=player_embedded#at=59)

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/85916/clappingbear.gif)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on June 08, 2011, 11:03:44 AM
Dominions 3 demo, I want to like you, but you make it so very very hard.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on June 08, 2011, 12:04:16 PM
Speaking of shit demos, I can't even get the Dungeon Siege III demo to start up.  Oh, Obsidian!  Why do you keep getting work?

While I was away on vacation, I learned that sometimes save glitches in Daggerdale will eat your equipment and skill points.  If anyone was entertaining the idea of trying this, avoid instead.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mosesandstick on June 08, 2011, 03:35:31 PM
Didn't enjoy the Dungeon Siege 3 demo at all. It's basically a console style ARPG. Awful to play with kb+m.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on June 08, 2011, 03:45:15 PM
From what I've read, Dungeon Siege 3's multiplayer is also kinda crappy.  You can't have two people playing the same character, and all the loot and xp is only saved in the host's game.  So unless you always play with the same group, your character won't get anything from playing multi.  So it sounds like it's a good game to play on a console with a set group of friends, but that's about it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on June 08, 2011, 04:44:20 PM
all the loot and xp is only saved in the host's game.

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/85916/huh.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on June 12, 2011, 07:54:17 AM
Didn't enjoy the Dungeon Siege 3 demo at all. It's basically a console style ARPG. Awful to play with kb+m.

I just tried the demo and I think Moses was underselling just how awful the controls were.   Imagine a game meant to be played with a thumbstick. Now make it so half the controls are on your mouse and half are on your keyboard.  Now give it a software mouse that is so floaty you move your mouse across your entire pad and it only goes 3/4 of the screen at best. This mouse also can't be disabled to use your OS settings and has no sensitivity controls.

Yeah.. if you're going to buy this game do not do it for PC. You do so at your own peril.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on June 14, 2011, 07:20:14 AM
Did you try it with a gamepad?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on June 14, 2011, 09:34:34 AM
No, because I own consoles.  If I didn't I'd be inclined to own a PC Gamepad, but I don't so I didn't.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on June 14, 2011, 10:59:14 AM
No, because I own consoles.  If I didn't I'd be inclined to own a PC Gamepad, but I don't so I didn't.

Don't Xbox pads work with PCs? 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on June 14, 2011, 11:23:40 AM
No, because I own consoles.  If I didn't I'd be inclined to own a PC Gamepad, but I don't so I didn't.

Don't Xbox pads work with PCs? 

If you only have wireless ones, like most people these days, you have to go buy extra hardware to make it work I believe.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on June 14, 2011, 05:16:56 PM
Dungeon Siege III is shit on PS3 as well.  Sorry to say that a gamepad isn't going to make this amalgam of KotOR and Daggerdale into something awesome.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on June 14, 2011, 06:06:19 PM
It has a miracle patch, just you wait and see.   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on June 15, 2011, 06:34:03 AM
Oh, I am. :awesome_for_real: I'll download it right after that Anarchy Online miracle patch.  Those guys sure are taking their time.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on June 15, 2011, 09:57:20 AM
PS3 wireless controllers work on PC if you plug them in with the USB charging cable and download the appropriate drivers.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on June 15, 2011, 10:09:46 AM
I've tried doing that.  Mapping the controls for a certain game was an exercise in futility.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ffc on June 15, 2011, 10:24:49 AM
Besides Dungeon Siege's snooze demo it's the online multiplayer approach that bugs me.  Even Dungeon Hunter: Alliance, a PSN cell phone game port for $15 lets you keep your loot / gold / xp on your character.  Same with Hunted: The Demon's Forge.  

I think the excuse is Dungeon Siege tries to have a narrative focus so players can't keep goodies across different games.  Maybe the narrative focus can be patched out and fun be patched in.

For PS3 controllers on a PC, this clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfAs30v_730) lays out how to get them connected and on bluetooth.  Going to try it with Witcher 2.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on June 15, 2011, 03:38:19 PM
I've tried doing that.  Mapping the controls for a certain game was an exercise in futility.
The wife tried the same thing with DCUO and her attempts made me decide it wasn't worth it for any game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on June 15, 2011, 08:08:55 PM
I did it for the FFXIV beta, so I just attributed any sucking to FFXIV and assumed the controller had worked fine.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mosesandstick on June 17, 2011, 02:45:30 PM
Damn, my 360 just red ringed after a system update.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on June 25, 2011, 06:11:23 PM
Not really sure where to put this so maybe someone will find it here:  Fallout 1 and 2 are on sale at gog.com for 3 bucks a piece right now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Quinton on June 25, 2011, 08:17:09 PM
Not really sure where to put this so maybe someone will find it here:  Fallout 1 and 2 are on sale at gog.com for 3 bucks a piece right now.

Oooh.  I've never played the original fallout. For $3, how can I not?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on June 25, 2011, 08:55:49 PM
It's worth more than that, for sure.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Quinton on June 25, 2011, 09:10:12 PM
Fallout Tip: If the game is slow/laggy, try moving or deleting ddraw.dll from the game folder.  Made an enormous difference on my win7 box.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on June 26, 2011, 05:22:58 AM
Incidentally, Fallout 2 doesn't feel "old" like a lot of games I go back and play, holds up surprisingly well.  Enjoying that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on July 13, 2011, 12:33:57 AM
If you need more reason not to buy the latest XCOM FPS iteration by these degenerates, here's why:

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/interview-christophhartmann-2kgames/082216

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He explains: “The ‘90s generation of gamers all love Xcom and we own the IP, so we thought OK, what do we do with it? Every studio we had wanted to do it and each one had its own spin on it. But the problem was that turn-based strategy games were no longer the hottest thing on planet Earth. But this is not just a commercial thing – strategy games are just not contemporary.

“I use the example of music artists. Look at someone old school like Ray Charles, if he would make music today it would still be Ray Charles but he would probably do it more in the style of Kanye West. Bringing Ray Charles back is all fine and good, but it just needs to move on, although the core essence will still be the same."

Urge. To kill. Rising.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on July 13, 2011, 01:18:48 AM
Game designers are shallow as fuck. I honestly hadn't considered that as an explanation, but it fits so many things.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on July 13, 2011, 02:06:53 AM


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He explains: “The ‘90s generation of gamers all love Xcom and we own the IP, so we thought OK, what do we do with it? Every studio we had wanted to do it and each one had its own spin on it. But the problem was that turn-based strategy games were no longer the hottest thing on planet Earth. But this is not just a commercial thing – strategy games are just not contemporary.

“I use the example of-.
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Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on July 13, 2011, 02:22:55 AM
Are you thinking of Divinity 2?

No, it's the game with nipple tipped sorceress showing up to save the hero at the start right? With orcs cast helping him out?
I fought all the way till the end, just desperate to end the game...but the final boss turret fight turned me off. :(


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tgr on July 13, 2011, 03:11:13 AM
That's an ... interesting take on "we're going to take an IP, rip all of it out, probably make a shit shooter in the normal shooter style of 2011, and swim in money because people are dumb".


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on July 13, 2011, 06:36:22 AM
The similarities between game development and real estate development seem eerily similar. A niche gets popular, everyone starts to build in it, even when the market is starting to get saturated. Then people with no business building in it start building in it, and eventually the demand tanks and everyone's left holding their dicks.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on July 13, 2011, 06:53:17 AM
Well Civ is certainly popular, but he is kind of right.  This forum is full of old gamers.  Turn based strategy isn't going to bring home the bacon, especially not if you intend to release on consoles.  Granted, I don't expect much from the game, but from a business standpoint I can't say anything he said is particularly wrong.  People want to shoot shit in the face, or stab stuff in the face, and they want to do it in real time and literally any game where you don't do some variation on that theme isn't going to be particularly popular.  Please don't bring up facebook games, its a different story.  Name a turn based game that has even released in the last decade that was popular that wasn't a Civ game?  I'm sure there are some, and certainly there are successful niche games out there, but I'm talking big budget AAA type titles.

Edit: I wrote off the new game the moment I heard it was going to be a shooter, so I'm well over the rage part, which might be influencing this.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 13, 2011, 07:08:40 AM
Chicken, egg. People aren't putting money into TBS, not a lot of high quality TBS coming out.

There's room for success in all genres, but obviously if you're some pointy-headed moron who only aims to outsell everyone on earth to stoke your ego as an amazing suittard and receive the mighty accolades of the shareholders, then yes, you're making a shooter.

What really surprises me is that it's not a facebook game at this point. Shooters are so aughts.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on July 13, 2011, 07:11:16 AM
My point is that the FPS market is dominated by a few franchises, but otherwise it's getting oversaturated to the point that it's waning as a viable development option.

In the PC Market the best selling games (not counting sequals) are dominated by strategy and role-playing. On the consoles, they are FPS, racing, and sports.

However, even though there was an increase in spending in Q1 of 2011 on video games, FPS games are not taking the top spots. They won't be the it thing for much longer when consumers get tired of the same derivative crap. There will be loyalty to the franchises they know and love (CoD, Halo, etc.) but new adopters shouldn't try to be hitting that market. They need to be thinking ahead, and a good way is to see if they can make the crossover strategy game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on July 13, 2011, 07:12:36 AM
Game developers (for the most part) aren't business people.  They don't strategically think ahead like that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on July 13, 2011, 07:36:16 AM
Game developers (for the most part) aren't business people.  They don't strategically think ahead like that.

TBH, only the people that are most successful at what they do think strategically ahead. The rest try to cash in on proven success. Innovation is rare; homogonization is the norm.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on July 13, 2011, 08:06:05 AM

In the PC Market the best selling games (not counting sequals) are dominated by strategy and role-playing. On the consoles, they are FPS, racing, and sports.


Is that true though?  I don't know how it relates to overall sales, but in the top 10 of played Steam games 7 are shooters.  The others being Civ 5 (Strategy), Terraria (RPG? I don't really know how to define it), and Football Manager 2011 which I guess is a sim?

I guess my point is, if you are going to pitch reviving the XCOM series, I don't really feel like TBS is going to seem like the first option.  Even something which got across the board great reviews like Frozen Synapse isn't even on the top 100 on Steam right now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 13, 2011, 08:14:21 AM
And my point is if you gauge your business success by whether or not you dominate the sales charts, you're a fucking moron.

While that's certainly nice, what happened to making a good profit on a solid game?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on July 13, 2011, 08:43:46 AM
Is that true though?  I don't know how it relates to overall sales, but in the top 10 of played Steam games 7 are shooters.  The others being Civ 5 (Strategy), Terraria (RPG? I don't really know how to define it), and Football Manager 2011 which I guess is a sim?

I guess my point is, if you are going to pitch reviving the XCOM series, I don't really feel like TBS is going to seem like the first option.  Even something which got across the board great reviews like Frozen Synapse isn't even on the top 100 on Steam right now.

I was referring to historically and current. Sims games, Civ games, WoW, Diablo, the Tycoon franchise, Half-Life, Doom series, Command and Conquer series, Age of Empires, Anno, Crysis, Counterstrike, Baldur's Gate.

Those are the types of games that sold the most on the PC.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on July 13, 2011, 09:13:32 AM
And my point is if you gauge your business success by whether or not you dominate the sales charts, you're a fucking moron.

While that's certainly nice, what happened to making a good profit on a solid game?

It still happens, Paradox comes to mind for example.  In a world where quarterly profits are all that matter (video games aren't at all unique in this regard), that doesn't sound appealing to someone funding your development though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on July 13, 2011, 09:42:14 AM
That Ray Charles bit makes me want to stab that guy in the fucking face.

Look, you fucking assclown. Ray Charles made music til the day he died, and it sold, you fucking monkey. He wouldn't make music like Kayne Fucking West, you ignorant crotchpheasant, because Ray Charles had fucking talent and Kayne is a media spinning self-promoting whore with one decent song. If what you make isn't a shit sandwich (like all the other attempts to make an X-Com game that was nothing like the original), people will likely buy it. You essentially just said you didn't want to make a TBS game because it's not "the new hotness." Enjoy your mediocre sales.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Amaron on July 13, 2011, 10:07:38 AM
 Turn based strategy isn't going to bring home the bacon, especially not if you intend to release on consoles.  

So don't release it to consoles.   Release it to handhelds/PCs where turn based = making bank.   The real problem here is they think the IP is worth something separated from it's gameplay.   Nobody is going to go into this FPS thinking they are going to get a nostalgia kick.   At least when they fucked over Fallout it still had appeal due to the story/lore/whatever.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on July 13, 2011, 10:12:24 AM
This isn't the thread for this conversation.  We have a thread specifically titled for this kind of discussion.  

BAD, RK, BAD.  

edit: split and merged. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on July 13, 2011, 10:49:13 AM
Turn based strategy isn't going to bring home the bacon, especially not if you intend to release on consoles.  

So don't release it to consoles.   Release it to handhelds/PCs where turn based = making bank.   The real problem here is they think the IP is worth something separated from it's gameplay.   Nobody is going to go into this FPS thinking they are going to get a nostalgia kick.   At least when they fucked over Fallout it still had appeal due to the story/lore/whatever.

I'm not disagreeing with you at all.   I WANT this to be a TBS game.  I also understand why it isn't is all I'm saying.  I think Fallout 3 actually turned out OK, and New Vegas (which I'm just now getting to) seems a reasonable successor.  A big difference is that Fallout basically got switched over to a proven model (Bethesda's RPGs ala Morrowind and Oblivion).  I think you are on point about the IP though.  Anyone they are going to get by switching over to a shooter probably isn't going to know a damn thing about the IP anyway.  You probably could have said the same thing about Fallout, but Bethesda was a big enough name at the time to make up for it in terms of marketing, and had a built in RPG fanbase that was going to probably buy the game.  I don't know that 2k can really say the same thing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on July 14, 2011, 10:42:30 PM
Fuck turn based. You're so right Hartman, even idiots agree with you on how to remake a classic turn based IP is to make it Real Time.

Lads & Gents...I present you...JAGGED ALLIANCE 2 Reloaded.

Quote from: zeitgeist
Not sure if this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZkkIW9rKrM) has been posted yet, but it reveals some more info about the map sectors, the merc recruitment system, and the UI in general. Oh yeah, and the merc portraits are every bit as horrible as expected.

(http://i56.tinypic.com/2qmnu6b.jpg) (http://i56.tinypic.com/ezes5z.jpg)

The above is SO MUCH better than the original isn't it?

(http://files.myopera.com/Leevi/albums/676053/JA2-Buns.jpg)

 :uhrr:



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on July 15, 2011, 09:53:12 AM
Usually I don't think this kind of thing is particularly interesting, but this was:
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-crucial-lessons-learned-by-watching-kids-play-video-games/

In short, those 5 things are:

1) They Don't Tolerate Losing, So Modern Games Just Let Them Win

2) They Have No Tolerance for "Grinding"

3)If They Want to Read, They'll Buy a Fucking Book

4) They Press "Y" to Skip, as Fast as They Can

5) Don't Like it? Break It.


I'm not really sure how much I agree with everything he notices/says in the article, but I wonder if this is a generational thing or a hardcore/casual thing.   The ultimate conclusion he comes to is that the kids just enjoy the entertainment and anything they view as not immediately entertaining isn't worth their time.  The bigger question is whether or not this is a good thing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on July 15, 2011, 10:32:51 AM
A big problem I have in games is that by the end it's so ridiculously easy, but at the beginning it was difficult. I think you should have the reverse. The game should throw bigger obstacles at you as you go, not just the same thing where you now overpower the hell out of it.

And I don't mean scaling here, I mean a static mountain to climb.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Amaron on July 15, 2011, 12:23:11 PM
Those bullet points are just labeled in a way to be controversial.   You could easily label it with his own arguments as:

1)  Old school punch you in the nuts difficulty is not popular and probably wasn't ever popular.
2)  Kids not dumb enough to grind stupid shit like we did.
3)  Nobody reads WoW style quest text.   Voice acting is expected.
4)  Some people still don't like cutscenes in their action games.
5)  I've no clue wtf he's trying to say here.  Mods are cool?

It's not very alarming to me.   Games being too easy is more of a design problem I think.   Plenty of people would put up with difficulty if it was less punch you in the nuts and more "making 3 point shots is hard".   People bitch about cutscenes and story all the time but it's not going anywhere.

There are far more alarming things going on in the industry than the above.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on July 15, 2011, 01:15:00 PM
I don't disagree with getting rid of nut-punching stuff, or reading text, or stupid grinds. Having gone back and tried to play games like Gothic and you go, wow that's messed up.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: cironian on July 15, 2011, 01:40:08 PM
It simply comes down to the huge development budgets the big publishers demand to be invested into presentation (it's not like the game mechanics themselves are getting more expensive). The "few" TBS fans aren't really enough to justify that kind of money, so anyone rich enough to buy a classic brand will always turn it into something unrecognizable.

All the big players getting out of the TBS pool is exactly why I'm currently building my own little thing there. I figure without the big publishers cornering the market, a (mostly) one-man project in the genre might earn me enough to pay my bills. Let's see how that bright idea works out.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on July 15, 2011, 02:20:10 PM
Just build Alpha Centauri 2. Anyone.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on July 15, 2011, 02:57:24 PM
Just build Alpha Centauri 2. Anyone.

No matter how wrong you might be about stuff in the baseball thread, we can always share this.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Amaron on July 15, 2011, 03:24:44 PM
Just build Alpha Centauri 2. Anyone.

This x1000.   There's tons of big seller game types that have been flat out abandoned.   Instead we see and endless progression of rythym games, shooter acid trips, and punt a gnome games.   Mother fuckers need to get off the drugs and go copy Silent Storm, Alpha Centauri, XCOM, Master of Orion, etc.   Don't even try to bring in some whacky ass shit.  Just carbon copy that shit and fix the hotkeys/interface.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on July 15, 2011, 03:35:55 PM
Thanks for bringing up Silent Storm.  I was this || close to getting over the stupid mecha shit in that game.

Have a good war.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Amaron on July 15, 2011, 06:19:23 PM
Well the advantage of a "spirit of" carbon copy of Silent Storm is no mecha shit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on July 15, 2011, 08:07:58 PM
Just build Alpha Centauri 2. Anyone.

Yes please. In Real Time with 3 playable huamn factions with perfect rushes, micro and macro rewarding plus battle-net style of hosting.  :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Amaron on July 15, 2011, 08:54:41 PM
Yes please. In Real Time with 3 playable huamn factions with perfect rushes, micro and macro rewarding plus battle-net style of hosting.  :grin:

The part about rushes, micro, and macro were enough to push this into not sure if serious territory.   Well done sir.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mosesandstick on July 27, 2011, 04:37:21 PM
Just finished Prince of Persia (the cel-shaded one). Despite the slightly average reviews it's one of the games I've enjoyed the most, and not having a fairy tale ending was a cherry on top.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on July 27, 2011, 05:37:14 PM
I don't know how long I'll be using this ass of a computer, so does anyone have suggestions of Steam games which are not graphically intensive yet fun?  Besides Peggle and Puzzle Quest?  Something neckbeardy is fine, too, although I prefer more of a neckgoatee-grade experience until I can get a better job.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on July 27, 2011, 06:03:22 PM
I don't know how long I'll be using this ass of a computer, so does anyone have suggestions of Steam games which are not graphically intensive yet fun?  Besides Peggle and Puzzle Quest?  Something neckbeardy is fine, too, although I prefer more of a neckgoatee-grade experience until I can get a better job.

How bad are we talking?  Maybe a better way of asking is - what is an example of something you can run fine.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on July 27, 2011, 07:06:54 PM
I don't know how long I'll be using this ass of a computer, so does anyone have suggestions of Steam games which are not graphically intensive yet fun?  Besides Peggle and Puzzle Quest?  Something neckbeardy is fine, too, although I prefer more of a neckgoatee-grade experience until I can get a better job.

Install a SNES emu and go crazy.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on July 27, 2011, 07:19:34 PM
I don't know how long I'll be using this ass of a computer, so does anyone have suggestions of Steam games which are not graphically intensive yet fun?  Besides Peggle and Puzzle Quest?  Something neckbeardy is fine, too, although I prefer more of a neckgoatee-grade experience until I can get a better job.

Do you like the Paradox Europa Universalis-style games? They play well on terrible machines.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on July 27, 2011, 07:48:17 PM
It's a relatively new laptop.  In fact, I can run LotRO at mid-level, AKA What Is So Awesome About This Game's Graphics I Don't Get It level.  One big factor is they keyboard having a retarded layout.  Example: SHIFT+NumPad . to Delete, and Fn+SHIFT+Left Arrow for Home.  I never realized I used End and Home so much.

It's not something I want to play an action game on, not a FPS for sure, and I don't want to play Awesome Game and have to drop it to Not Awesome Graphics settings.  I can run Torchlight fine if I drop it from max settings.  I haven't tried many other games.

Do you like the Paradox Europa Universalis-style games? They play well on terrible machines.

Actually this just might be a great excuse to start and make progress on a EUIII game.  I bought the box somewhere for $5.99 and haven't really done much with it.

I used to be very into complex games, but Real Life happened.  I think if Disgaea had come out when I was in my teens, I'd be some sort of single gamer troll that never went outside.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on July 27, 2011, 07:58:28 PM
EUIII is probably a good choice if you already own it anyway.  Also, you can download and play the Project Zomboid tech demo for free.  Its surprisingly replayable for such an early version, and feels satisfyingly old school.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 28, 2011, 06:46:19 AM
It's a relatively new laptop.  In fact, I can run LotRO at mid-level, AKA What Is So Awesome About This Game's Graphics I Don't Get It level.  One big factor is they keyboard having a retarded layout.  Example: SHIFT+NumPad . to Delete, and Fn+SHIFT+Left Arrow for Home.  I never realized I used End and Home so much.
When we narrowed down the fiancee's laptop to a non-numpad model...I knew I wouldn't be playing Civ on it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on July 29, 2011, 07:00:41 AM
Most laptops accept USB keyboards. :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on July 29, 2011, 07:44:46 AM
Looks like that RTS/FPS hybrid Nuclear Dawn is finally coming out this September. http://store.steampowered.com/app/17710/

Looks like NS2 will have some competition.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on July 29, 2011, 11:10:18 AM
Most laptops accept USB keyboards. :oh_i_see:

Yeah but then you have to sit at a table!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on July 31, 2011, 04:15:07 PM
I am sitting at a table but... well I feel like I am giving up a bit more if I take my PC keyboard downstairs.  Also, turns out there are two End keys, one of which I can use just with Shift.  So this is usable.

When you find the Death Ring in Order of Ecclesia, it says there is a chance of instant death on a hit.  This seems awesome until you realize that it means your death.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on August 06, 2011, 03:11:41 AM
Interesting insight about "publisher interference in the design of Titan Quest" (from a former developer of the game):

http://www.rpgwatch.com/#17834


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on August 11, 2011, 10:59:42 AM
So... Disgaea 4 on September 6. This came out of nowhwere for me.  I didn't even know they were making a 4.  Even though I wasn't a big fan of 3 (added a lot of needless shit and had a terrible plot/voice acting), this may be the single greatest game trailer ever. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soH8jG_gfGQ)  Looks like a lot of interesting systems in play there, including some sort of world map.

Premium edition comes with a playable Flonne.  Not something I particularly care about.  I'll probably pick up the regular edition.  Disgaea 2 is one of my favorite games and probably the greatest SRPG made.  Hopefully this game isn't a disappointment like 3, I really could use a good SRPG fix.  

edit: crap, premium edition comes with a figurine of the gal in the Prinny outfit.   Decisions, decisions.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 12, 2011, 08:59:58 AM
Take a dump on the face of common sense... I'm sold.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on August 15, 2011, 08:46:09 AM
Has anyone mentioned Euclideon yet?

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/08/10/euclideon_unlimited_detail_bruce_dell_interview

Wow.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Amaron on August 15, 2011, 09:25:50 AM
Has anyone mentioned Euclideon yet?

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/08/10/euclideon_unlimited_detail_bruce_dell_interview

Wow.

That shit is pure investor scam.  It sounds good to non coders but voxel's have been used for decades and all their strengths/flaws are well understood.  Comanche: Maximum Overkill released back in 1992 was a voxel game in fact.    As Notch pointed out this guy isn't doing anything new. 

http://notch.tumblr.com/post/8386977075/its-a-scam


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 15, 2011, 12:24:58 PM
It's voxels in unlimited quantities.  Without hardware restraints, too.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on August 15, 2011, 12:43:31 PM
SPAZ is out on Steam, and it has delicious achievements. I may hold out for a week, but it is hard.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 15, 2011, 12:45:52 PM
If it stays hard for a week, see a doctor.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Amaron on August 15, 2011, 01:00:14 PM
Bastion comes out in 22 hours according to steam. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on August 15, 2011, 01:05:19 PM
Has anyone mentioned Euclideon yet?

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/08/10/euclideon_unlimited_detail_bruce_dell_interview

Wow.
Yes.

http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=19057.0


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on August 15, 2011, 01:13:19 PM
If it stays hard for a week, see a doctor.

Yes, I may have to do a Hard Reset.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx5G0PNCuTU&hd=1




Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on August 15, 2011, 02:30:59 PM
Almost started a new thread for this but I figured there wasn't enough interest to warrant it.  Does anyone know anything about these Gunnars glasses? http://www.gunnars.com/  It seems pretty sketchy to me, and I can't seem to find any actual legit science behind them, but at the same time I do spend a lot of time in front of the monitor, and if they actually to prevent eye fatigue I might actually consider it.  Sadly, I get the feeling its just some kind of "LOOK COOL WHILE YOU GAME!" gimmick.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on August 15, 2011, 03:27:13 PM
I have no idea about the glasses but the site is horrible. Marketing like that could make aspirin seem like snake oil.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Segoris on August 15, 2011, 03:52:16 PM
Bastion coming tomorrow and looks like fun as it's giving me a Chrono Trigger vibe. E.D.G.E looks like I'd lose hours upon hours before realizing it. Lastly, From Dust looks great until you see it's under Ubi's DRM policy - way to ruin a good thing Ubi.

If anyone has any news or plays those games soon post some feed back please, as those are the next three upcoming games I'm looking at for somewhat cheap fun.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on August 16, 2011, 05:57:22 AM
Lollipop Chainsaw probably doesn't need its own thread:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0QYPpC_Na4


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 17, 2011, 03:32:53 PM
Rasix was not happy with Disgaea 3, but if anyone else liked it or wants to try it, the disc is $19.99 (http://store.nisamerica.com/Disgaea-3-Absence-of-Justice-For-PS3) in the NISA Store and the DLC is half-off on PSN until Sept 6.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on August 17, 2011, 04:15:09 PM
schild disliked it as well.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on August 17, 2011, 07:50:48 PM
I liked it but got rid of it at some point, without having touched the DLC. Is any of it worth getting? I've been looking for something to scratch that itch until D4 comes out.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 22, 2011, 05:14:34 PM
Batman: Arkham City, what's up with this preorder nonsense?  I was going to let "Arkham City" slide, even though that's a dumb name unless there was some sort of Lovecraft tie-in.  But when people in Oz get better trinkets than I do, something is wrong.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on August 31, 2011, 02:42:37 AM
David Jaffe's keynote from PAX (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i060D2MzjSU).  I've always found Jaffe to be pretty entertaining, and he never seems to have a problem saying what's on his mind.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bunk on September 01, 2011, 08:39:42 AM
Operation Skywatch

Anyone have any idea what it is? I jumped in to a line at 2k's booth at PAX thinking it was regarding Borderlands, only to grilled about my Communist ties, given an ESP test, and being awarded a badge as Citizen 86, Engineer 2nd Class.

No idea what any of it means, but apparently I need to watch the skies...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on September 01, 2011, 09:29:37 AM
Probably more XCOMsploitation.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: murdoc on September 01, 2011, 01:47:03 PM
Operation Skywatch

Anyone have any idea what it is? I jumped in to a line at 2k's booth at PAX thinking it was regarding Borderlands, only to grilled about my Communist ties, given an ESP test, and being awarded a badge as Citizen 86, Engineer 2nd Class.

No idea what any of it means, but apparently I need to watch the skies...

XCOM


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on September 01, 2011, 02:17:56 PM
Ahh, interesting:

http://kotaku.com/5816507/la-noires-studio-under-investigation-over-alleged-shonky-work-practices

Well, nothing that new, I guess: hmm, didn't some EA studio have the same problems 7 or 8 years ago, with employees and their families talking about long hours and impossible crunch times?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 01, 2011, 02:26:31 PM
http://ea-spouse.livejournal.com/274.html


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on September 01, 2011, 02:29:56 PM
http://ea-spouse.livejournal.com/274.html


Ahh, right, the infamous "EA Spouse", thanks Trippy :). Btw, interesting stories about crunch times in the comments section at this link:

http://www.develop-online.net/news/38125/Industry-outrage-at-brutal-Team-Bondi-crunch


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on September 01, 2011, 03:41:43 PM
In cleaning the house for our move, I found about $58 in change laying around.  Took it up to Coinstar and dumped it onto a fee-free Amazon gift card.  Dark Souls is almost paid for, woot!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bunk on September 02, 2011, 01:33:27 PM
While at PAX I was looking around for potential new games for my eeePad, and I stumble across this: http://feeleveryyummy.com/ (http://feeleveryyummy.com/)

Game's called Word Fighter, and essentially its Street Fighter meets Boggle. The developer just came up as I'm looking at it, grabbed another guy out of the crowd, and started the game up. I am proud to say that my Jane Austin soundly stomped all over his Edgar Alan Poe.

Cool thing is that they are aiming at both iPad and Android, and apparently you will be able to play cross platform. If you love Boggle type games as much as I do, totally worth watching for.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on September 10, 2011, 08:10:48 AM
Favorite line from Kinectimals: Don't make me get the hose.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on September 10, 2011, 12:38:58 PM
I forgot to mention that I noticed a Castle Crashers update on XBL.  Now it has DLC.  I got the free Pink Knight.  There is also a purple Necro Knight for about 800 points.  Plus weapon packs I think.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on September 11, 2011, 04:13:26 PM
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gearbox-software-hawp/720425  - 1 minute long, worth watching.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on September 12, 2011, 01:05:46 AM
I agree with the sentiment expressed in that video.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tgr on September 12, 2011, 01:51:17 AM
I can think of a few managers of game companies who deserve that.

Some of them, multiple times.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on September 17, 2011, 02:44:51 PM
Sadly, I don't have the time to put together a full thread for Holiday releases this time around, but this is what the Console/PC release schedule looks like so far:


Sept. 20th

Gears of War 3 - 360
F1: 2011 - PS3, 360, PC


Sept. 27th

The Ico & Shadow of the Colossus Collection - PS3
X-Men: Destiny - 360, PS3
NHL 12 - PS3, 360
FIFA Soccer 12 - PS3
Atelier Totori: The Adventurer of Arland - PS3
Pro Evolution Soccer 2012 - PS3, 360
Rune Factory: Tides of Destiny - PS3, Wii
Splinter Cell Classic Trilogy HD - PS3
A Game of Thrones: Genesis - PC


Oct. 4th

Rage - PS3, 360, PC
Dark Souls - 360, PS3
Spider-Man: Edge of Time - 360, PS3, Wii
NBA 2K12 - 360, PS3, Wii, PC


Oct. 11th

Forza Motorsport 4 - 360
Ace Combat: Assault Horizon - PS3, 360
Wipeout 2 - PS3, 360, Wii
Might and Magic Heroes VI - PC
The Cursed Crusade - PS3, 360
Dead Rising 2: Off the Record - PS3, 360, PC


Oct. 18th

Batman: Arkham City - PS3, 360, PC
Ratchet & Clank: All 4 One - PS3
Stronghold 3 - PC
The Sims 3: Pets - PC
Serious Sam 3: BFE - PC


Oct. 25th

Kirby's Return to Dream Land - Wii
Battlefield 3 - PS3, 360, PC
Silent Hill: Downpour - 360, PS3
The King of Fighters XIII - 360, PS3


Nov. 1st

Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception - PS3
Lord of the Rings: War in the North - 360, PS3, PC
Sonic Generations - 360, PS3
Lego Harry Potter: Years 5-7 - PS3, 360, Wii
Goldeneye 007: Reloaded - 360, PS3


Nov. 8th

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - PS3, 360, PC
Metal Gear Solid HD Collection - PS3


Nov. 11th

Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary - 360
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - PS3, 360, PC


Nov. 15th

Saints Row: The Third - 360, PS3, PC
Need for Speed: The Run - 360, PS3, PC
Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom - 360, PS3
Assassin's Creed Revelations - PS3, 360, PC


Nov. 20th

The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword - Wii


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on September 17, 2011, 03:26:10 PM
Also, just to add a bit of commentary here, part of the reason I probably didn't bother with a thread this year, is because aside from a handful of releases, there's nothing I'm too excited about.  Dark Souls, Rage, Arkham City, and SWTOR if it releases this year are probably the only games I'll pick up.  Other comments:


- I'm shocked X-Men Destiny is releasing so soon.  They've barely shown this game off at all, and what they've have shown looks like some of the roughest and dullest looking gameplay I've seen in a while.  I liked Too Human, but even I can't get behind Silicon Knights on this one.

- Rage and Dark Souls on the same day?  Looks like I'm getting Dark Souls at launch and waiting on Rage for awhile then.

- Assassin's Creed really needs to give the franchise a rest for a year.

- Gears of War 2 bored the hell out of me.  No interest in 3.  Still haven't played Uncharted 2, so won't bother with Uncharted 3 yet either.

- I don't have a lot of interest in FPS games.  If I do end up buying one due to social pressure though, it would likely be Battlefield 3 over MW3.

- HD collections of games from last gen are the next big thing apparently.  In addition to those listed here, there is also a Silent Hill HD collection coming up at some point containing 2 and 3 (also known as the last time most people gave a shit about the franchise), which will likely be a better purchase than Silent Hill: Downpour.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 17, 2011, 06:28:41 PM
I like this HD Collection movement, if only because it's a good time to get those games in 720p before consoles rotate.

As for releases, Dark Souls for me and I'll play Skyrim and Rune Factory with the girl. The rest of the list will get picked up... eventually. Winter/Spring is a pretty big season for Magic, so I've got to keep my priorities in order.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on September 17, 2011, 07:29:07 PM
Will probably pick up these on release:

Gears of War 3 - 360
Rage - PC
Forza Motorsport 4 - 360
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - PC
Saints Row: The Third - PC

The rest are bargain/used purchases (F1 2011, New Assassin's Creed game, new Ace Combat, Batman, Kirby, Dark Souls, Uncharted 3) or things I'm not interested in.  I'd like to be interested in BF3, but I'm not going to bother with the inevitably gimped console releases, and PC titles that don't release on Steam weren't released on PC imo.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on September 17, 2011, 07:41:31 PM
Wow, my list is exactly like Schild's.  The only differences are that I'm waiting to see how RF reviews and I'll buy the new Zelda to play with my daughter.  Oh, and if D3 launches, which I'm "guessing" will be on your list too.  I already have ICO/SotC ordered. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tgr on September 18, 2011, 02:18:51 AM
Strongly anticipating:
Stronghold 3
Serious Sam 3: BFE
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Saints Row: The Third

Wish this would've been made/published by someone else:
Need for Speed: The Run

In fact, I'm positively drooling for a mix between games like the elder scrolls, test drive, gta and lfs. If the physics had been good enough, I'd probably be more than happy to spend all day just driving around.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: caladein on September 18, 2011, 05:59:20 AM
Aside from having already pre-ordered Might & Magic: Clash of Heroes' PC release and SWTOR, the only things I'm looking forward to for the remainder of the year are maybe getting roped into picking up BF3 and Skyrim not setting off my usual, Bethesda-related, hives.

The former I intend to resist vigorously because I hate jets and the latter is just really unlikely.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on September 18, 2011, 06:08:17 AM
I'm really just hoping DIablo 3 makes it out before the end of the year.  Optimistic, I know.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on September 18, 2011, 09:00:07 AM
Gears 3, Dark Souls, and Skyrim are the three I'm buying. I'll probably check out Rage when it goes on sale; it looks good but there's just too much competition for my gaming time. I might end up buying Assassin's Creed as well, since I have a buddy who's really into that series and we usually play them at release.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tgr on September 18, 2011, 10:03:52 AM
Oh, I missed Rage. Totally Carmack-fanboying over that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: kildorn on September 18, 2011, 11:18:40 AM
Sword of the Stars 2 is slated for October in theory, but they've been dead silent on marketing for it.

But maybe I'm the only person who liked Sword of the Stars anyways.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on September 19, 2011, 12:41:24 PM
Things I know I want but will only get if the money's right in order of preference:

FIFA 12 (already pre-ordered)
BF3 (if I can afford a new computer to play it before the year's end)
Dark Souls
Forza 4


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Murgos on September 19, 2011, 01:48:32 PM
Sword of the Stars 2 is slated for October in theory, but they've been dead silent on marketing for it.

But maybe I'm the only person who liked Sword of the Stars anyways.

Nah, I've played the shit out of it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on September 19, 2011, 03:50:41 PM
I almost never pre-order stuff or buy on release anymore, but I've got Space Marine SE on the way, and am pre-ordering Battlefield 3 and Saints Row The Third.


Will probably be picking up Splinter Cell Trilogy and God of War Collection 2: The PSP years shortly.
Other than that I tend to pick anything else of interest up from the bargain bin within a year or two of release.

I'm interested in Gears 3, but that may be partly being sold over from all the hype. Horde 2.0 looks interesting. Still, won't pick it up till I've played through the first two. Rage has potential, but I'll wait and see - if it has campaign co-op I'll get it early, otherwise it's just another FPS that I can pick up eventually.

Oh, and getting a copy of FIFA and some Kinect shit for work, so I'll borrow them and check them out.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on September 20, 2011, 06:15:57 AM
I want to get a lot of things, Gears of War 3 and Skyrim mostly, but LoL is eating my soul. On top of that I have a backlog longer than the Amazon river, all games that I really want to play (the latest being the incredibly good looking and sounding Whispered World).

I think I'll just buy Skyrim for the SO and be done with this year.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on September 20, 2011, 06:48:55 AM
Gears 3 ad using Mazzy Star's "Into Dust" almost sold me on the game. Great use of emotive music.

Still, I need to get through the first two first.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kageru on September 20, 2011, 06:51:41 AM
Is there some reason to be excited about Rage? I sort of lost interest in ID when it became pretty obvious the games were just tech demos. And the selling pitch of "groundbreaking" when the features pretty much look like every like any other shooter (OMG vehicles!) released since Halo does not convince. And combining ID with Bethesda the home of half thought out game mechanics doesn't make it any more tempting.

Pretty though. Going to need a video card upgrade before I buy that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tgr on September 20, 2011, 08:58:25 AM
I'm thinking that id is beyond the "just a tech demo" phase now, with a 5 year development cycle on rage, and it looks to be a fair bit deeper than any of id's previous releases (not that that's saying too much).

As for groundbreaking, I like to think of the virtualization of textures as a groundbreaking feature, but as I've said earlier, we're now looking at incremental improvements to graphics rather than revolutionary improvements, so the effect on the gamer is going to be less than it is f.ex for the graphics artists who no longer need to give a flying fuck about texture budgets. Additionally, they've gone for 60fps instead of 30fps because it feels better rather than looks better.

Personally, I'm probably going to get it just because it's id and I'm a complete Carmack fanboi. The only thing that'll stop me is if they put DRM on it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on September 20, 2011, 12:53:49 PM
Is there some reason to be excited about Rage? I sort of lost interest in ID when it became pretty obvious the games were just tech demos. And the selling pitch of "groundbreaking" when the features pretty much look like every like any other shooter (OMG vehicles!) released since Halo does not convince. And combining ID with Bethesda the home of half thought out game mechanics doesn't make it any more tempting.

Pretty though. Going to need a video card upgrade before I buy that.


I'm waiting to see how the car combat turns out, since that's the only kind of vs. multiplayer mode that they're going to have.  I haven't really seen a lot of gameplay footage of it yet though, and xp systems where the people who have been playing the most have an added advantage in that they get better gear always kinda bug me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on September 20, 2011, 03:31:25 PM
Also, Arkham City will probably end up being a GOTY edition purchase for me since I'm not in a huge hurry to get the game.  All the retailer specific stuff (Robin challenge maps, Batman skins) sounds like it's going to be offered up as DLC later, plus there's apparently Catwoman DLC announced as well.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on September 21, 2011, 02:47:09 AM
Exact same reason I haven't bought Dead Space 2 or Assassins Creed Bro-hood yet. Well, the Da Vinci edition has it all, but it's a pita to track down atm.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: RhyssaFireheart on September 21, 2011, 08:20:48 AM
No way to verify, and tbh I don't even really know the game being discussed, I just recognize the name from reading this thread.

Quote from: Achilles001
I just read on GAF that people in Japan who got Dark Souls early are having their games invaded by ridiculously overpowered characters from the dev team as punishment. I cannot believe the amount win associated with this game.

From the anime board over on IGN, FYI.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: stu on September 21, 2011, 08:53:54 AM
I was gonna pick up Dead Space 2 now that it's ~$30 but I still have to pre-order Dark Souls. I'm worried that it'll get in the way of work.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on September 21, 2011, 11:09:04 AM
No way to verify, and tbh I don't even really know the game being discussed, I just recognize the name from reading this thread.

Quote from: Achilles001
I just read on GAF that people in Japan who got Dark Souls early are having their games invaded by ridiculously overpowered characters from the dev team as punishment. I cannot believe the amount win associated with this game.

From the anime board over on IGN, FYI.

More information (http://www.incgamers.com/News/29047/from-software-is-killing-early-dark-souls-players).

Seems kind of silly, but oh well.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on September 23, 2011, 09:16:45 AM
Short article on one of my favorite games.
http://www.gameranx.com/features/id/2724/article/super-metroid-how-to-tell-a-great-story-without-words/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on September 25, 2011, 09:21:44 AM
Have they talked about what Rage's co-op mode will entail? Like, a full, proper campaign, or the usual "horde-mode" bolted on?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on September 25, 2011, 05:42:21 PM
Have they talked about what Rage's co-op mode will entail? Like, a full, proper campaign, or the usual "horde-mode" bolted on?

Co-op missions which are separate from the campaign.  At one point they said the missions were unlocked as you played through campaign, but I'm not sure if that's still true.  Seem kinda pointless to cockblock people from playing co-op right out of the box.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on September 26, 2011, 01:34:10 AM
meh. I found a local pre-order that's only $5 more than ordering it from the UK and waiting 2-4 weeks. Was considering getting a couple of copies, but if they're doing bullshit co-op I'll fish it out of the bargain bin later on.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tgr on September 26, 2011, 02:03:55 AM
I'm working on the premise that id aren't completely sucking dick yet, and just sent in my first prepurchase in recent memory. Rage had better not suck, now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on September 26, 2011, 02:33:53 AM
I'm barely excited by first person shooter anymore. There's just so much glut in it that I can't get excited about Rage at all.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on September 26, 2011, 04:50:47 AM
I just moved back to Europe a couple of months ago, and took all my consoles with me.  Have power transformers for both consoles and TVs, so I had everything planned out nicely.  So the other day I turn on my 360 for the first time since the move, and guess what?  Red.  Ring.  Of.  Death.  Son of a biatch.  I suppose it's possible that it didn't like the power coming from the transformer or something odd, but it's probably just a shitty coincidence.

So I went out and had to buy a PAL edition 360.  Happily, 2/3rds of my 360 games were not region coded, so that's cool.  It's also one of the newer 250gb models (I had the old 40g), so that, too, is cool.  What is definitely NOT cool is this fucking Xbox Live & Windows Live bullshit.  As I have never created a Windows Live ID, it appears to be completely impossible to recover my ID.  So, all gamer scores gamer tag and DLC are done and gone.  Didn't have a lot of DLC, but I have spent a bit of money on Rockband songs, and it pisses me off that I may not be able to access it again.  Creating a Windows ID with the same Xbox live info after the fact seems to achieve nothing at all.

Anyone have a clue how I might address this?  Is it possible to transfer everything over from the old harddrive somehow?  Never tried that before, so I don't know how it works.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on September 26, 2011, 07:47:24 AM
Yes it is, you have to buy an Xbox 360 Transfer Cable (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/Live/Transfer) which run about $20.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: caladein on September 26, 2011, 08:00:50 AM
Yes, just don't do anything on the new console's hard drive beforehand as the copying process will erase it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Amaron on September 26, 2011, 08:13:14 PM
Apparently some people in Korea are finally waking up and looking at cash shop gambling:

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/36908/Koreas_Game_Rating_Board_Publishers_Clash_Over_Jackpot_Items.php

I thought about putting this in MMO but it's probably not worth a whole thread at this point.   I've often wondered how long this would avoid notice.  The whole trend seems pretty ripe for "protect the children".   Vegas moguls would probably go to heaven if they could do what these companies get away with.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on September 26, 2011, 08:29:06 PM
http://www.irontowerstudio.com/forum/index.php/topic,2268.0.html

Quote
It has become apparent that a lot of people want Dead State and they want it now. So far we’ve been able to accomplish a lot with our small team, but in order to get the game done in a more timely fashion, it’s apparent that we’re going to have to at least start considering some new additions to help us get Dead State to the marketplace.

So, here’s the pitch – are you a modder looking to work on an original title? Are you new to the game industry and looking to get professional credit on your resume? Are you an experienced game developer looking to work on a zombie RPG in your spare time because you’ve always wanted to play one? We are looking for folks like you.

Now, a few things about the project. We have very little funding – work on the project ranges from contribution for credit in the game to payment after the project comes out (for the long-term members of the team). This is not likely to change, so this is NOT a full-time job with a salary, though if the game does well enough (and we like your work) it could lead to paid work on future projects.

We’re not expecting full-time hours – attitude, efficiency, and reliability are key. We’re looking for team members that can complete tasks they’ve agreed to take on within a reasonable amount of time and communicate their progress to the leads. Professional discretion about your work is expected. Working well with the team is a must.   

For programmers:
We are primarily looking for someone with game programming/scripting background. Knowledge of Torque 3D and TorqueScript is highly preferable. You will be working with the Lead Programmer and Project Lead on most of your tasks.

Tools Programmer - Developing tools to make implementation of content easier. GUI work a big plus.

Examples of tool duties:
-Script Editor
-Journal Editor
-Loot Container tool
-Art implementation and lighting tools

Scripting Programmer - The scripting programmer uses the engine's scripting language to create scripts for dialogue (a lot of these), for events/event triggers, time passage, tracking stats, and bark text.

Examples of Scripting:
-Global dialogue flags
-Combat triggers
-Quest update triggers
-Scene triggers
-XP/item rewards

Art:
We do not have any actual art positions right now. If you are an outstanding modeler or texture artist that would like to contribute items to the game for fun and credit, we may make an exception. Note that we already have most common props and textures done already, so you may want to talk to our lead artist about what we are lacking currently.

Design:
We are not looking for additional designers or writers right now.

Sound/Music:
We are not looking for sound/music people at this time. We will update this page if this changes.

If you’re interested in working with us or contributing, please send your qualifications, links to your work, an introduction, and any questions you may have to:

info@DoubleBearProductions.com

We will try get back to you as soon as possible. If you know people who might be a good fit, please send them a link to this thread.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on September 27, 2011, 01:43:55 AM
I just moved back to Europe a couple of months ago, and took all my consoles with me.  Have power transformers for both consoles and TVs, so I had everything planned out nicely.  So the other day I turn on my 360 for the first time since the move, and guess what?  Red.  Ring.  Of.  Death.  Son of a biatch.  I suppose it's possible that it didn't like the power coming from the transformer or something odd, but it's probably just a shitty coincidence.

So I went out and had to buy a PAL edition 360.  Happily, 2/3rds of my 360 games were not region coded, so that's cool.  It's also one of the newer 250gb models (I had the old 40g), so that, too, is cool.  What is definitely NOT cool is this fucking Xbox Live & Windows Live bullshit.  As I have never created a Windows Live ID, it appears to be completely impossible to recover my ID.  So, all gamer scores gamer tag and DLC are done and gone.  Didn't have a lot of DLC, but I have spent a bit of money on Rockband songs, and it pisses me off that I may not be able to access it again.  Creating a Windows ID with the same Xbox live info after the fact seems to achieve nothing at all.

Anyone have a clue how I might address this?  Is it possible to transfer everything over from the old harddrive somehow?  Never tried that before, so I don't know how it works.

Also, telephone Microsoft's phone support. I've found them quite helpful in several instances in the past. If the 1st Tier guys can't hep you (and they probably can't for this), just keep asking for the next tier people. Ask for their names, and remain polite, clear and businesslike at all times.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on September 27, 2011, 03:40:22 AM
Thanks for all the advice.  I found out on my own to get a transfer cable (managed to get one delivered from the UK for about 6 dollars)...hopefully that will work.  I really wanted the data on the harddrive anyway, so assuming it seemlessly transfers my gamer tag over, then that's probably a better solution than an ordinary recovery anyway.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on September 27, 2011, 05:00:12 AM
Sure, it should work (I've transferred my crap 3 times now). Transferring it to a new 360 will probably involve a windows ID and so forth as well to transfer the licences from your old machine to the new one, so you'll probably have to create one.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on September 28, 2011, 12:05:58 AM
Well, I kind of already did create one, bit it didn't seem to link with my xbox live ID like it should have.  That's the part that worries me about this process.  I guess I'll see what happens once the cable arrives.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on September 29, 2011, 10:08:09 PM
Not 'useless' to me, but interesing...  I adore Nier, rough edges and all.  Sorry about the source...

Quote
A sequel to Nier is the obvious assumption, but it really could be anything. All Saito said was that there could be an amazing announcement soon, and then he tagged his tweet with the hashtag #Nier.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/09/29/new-nier-news-nearby.aspx

Nier


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on September 30, 2011, 08:47:53 AM
Stopped into Target for some groceries, and they had Dark Souls in the cases already...  I would have tried to buy it if I hadn't purchases from Amazon already.  Tough choice though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on October 05, 2011, 06:48:32 AM
I like this PS3 Ad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdWkKKSckNk&feature=youtu.be)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kageru on October 06, 2011, 07:27:56 PM

"Maybe no one in the real world respects you... but you are like a god to some imaginary characters and a computer program."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 07, 2011, 08:53:11 AM
"Maybe no one in the real world respects you... but you are like a god to some imaginary characters and a computer program."

Couldn't just enjoy the hell out of a well-made ad, could you?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on October 07, 2011, 08:59:17 AM
Yah, that was pretty rad.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 07, 2011, 11:03:39 AM
Brought a tear.  Now for more Dark Souls.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 10, 2011, 11:00:38 AM
I don't know how I only now saw that Arx Fatalis has gotten a fat update on Steam.  Win7 compatibility and source code release?  Awesome.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 14, 2011, 03:40:41 AM
Skyrim causes ripples.  My gamer friend has been playing Shivering Isles while anticipating (until I got him to buy Dark Souls) and this led to my wife getting the itch to play Oblivion.  We both have hundreds of hours of saves on the 360, and I have lots of time on the PC version.  She had also bought Morrowind GOTY for Xbox some time ago but never played it, so we started up a new game.  Long story short, I had a nostalgia attack and she decided she couldn't play it due to combat.

Morrowind seems to have crossed her complexity threshold.  My assertion was "Morrowind isn't for girls".  She didn't change her mind, but I'll keep at it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on October 14, 2011, 11:17:46 AM
How is Morrowind more complex than Oblivion?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on October 14, 2011, 11:20:00 AM
How is Morrowind more complex than Oblivion?

More skills, and more finicky combat (which might not be more "complex" per se, but it certainly is not as intuitive to learn from what I remember). I haven't played Morrowind in quite a while though, so I'm having a little trouble remembering some of the finer points.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 14, 2011, 11:29:20 AM
How is Morrowind more complex than Oblivion?
Well, you see it's due to.....GET THESE DAMN CLIFF RACERS OFF ME


 :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 14, 2011, 02:29:47 PM
There are a few more stats to worry about.  Also the combat, if you don't turn on "Always use best attack"... which I did point out to her but she still wasn't able to hit shit.

There are also more spell effects in Morrowind, including Levitate.  I don't have specific proof that the spell/enchantment system allows more options, but I feel like it did.

Scrolls of Icarian Flight
Boots of Blinding Speed


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on October 17, 2011, 02:32:58 AM
I may have to pre-order Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 from Best Buy, just for this character skin for MODOK (people who read Nextwave should recognize it):

(http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac211/Velorath/u0123.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 17, 2011, 06:44:19 AM
Awesome pic thread thataway -->


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 21, 2011, 10:10:28 PM
I just had to drop in and mention that, for the first time after a Windows reinstall, I was able to reinstall Steam over the old directory and it picked up on all of my games without me having to wave any chicken feet.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: CaptainNapkin on October 21, 2011, 10:31:43 PM
I've always had decent luck backing up the Steam dir, doing my refresh, then install Steam clean, then copy the backed up dir into the install. When I then fire up Steam it just patches up any wonky/ missing files. So far this method has worked well each time for me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 24, 2011, 11:11:51 AM
Gabe talks a bit about pricing models and f2p. Confirms we're lab rats in a totally awesome experiment.

http://www.geekwire.com/2011/experiments-video-game-economics-valves-gabe-newell


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on October 24, 2011, 11:52:58 AM
The pricing experiments they've done have more often than not been very beneficial to the consumer. It's awesome to think that by being good to the customer, their revenue increases by not just a little bit, but a fuckload.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 24, 2011, 12:31:19 PM
Yeah, I like that part, too. It's nice to see someone who gets the concept of win/win capitalism, seems like such a quaint idea in modern times.

Also, I have a shitload of games on steam I'll probably never play and wouldn't have bought if they weren't on some amazing sale. So...utter genius imo.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Murgos on October 24, 2011, 03:30:39 PM
Gabe talks a bit about pricing models and f2p. Confirms we're lab rats in a totally awesome experiment.

http://www.geekwire.com/2011/experiments-video-game-economics-valves-gabe-newell

Quote
The company’s Steam distribution system, with more than 35 million users, is sometimes called the iTunes store of video games.

Really?  Because I call the iTunes store of video games the App store.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on October 24, 2011, 03:37:45 PM
Gabe talks a bit about pricing models and f2p. Confirms we're lab rats in a totally awesome experiment.

http://www.geekwire.com/2011/experiments-video-game-economics-valves-gabe-newell

Quote
The company’s Steam distribution system, with more than 35 million users, is sometimes called the iTunes store of video games.

Really?  Because I call the iTunes store of video games the App store.

This is the tech article equivalent of  "some people are saying"  in other words "just now, I said"


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Minvaren on November 02, 2011, 06:47:31 PM
...am I the only one looking forward to AC : Revelations?

Due out in 2 weeks for consoles, 2 more for PCs.   :uhrr:  Might have to actually buy a game at release for a change...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on November 02, 2011, 10:22:33 PM
I'm psyched for it, it's just hitting at a really bad time.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on November 03, 2011, 02:14:46 PM
I would like to play it, but first I have to complete the others in the series.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ghost on November 10, 2011, 09:04:36 AM
Well, apparently Zynga is holding some of its employees over the fire (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204621904577018373223480802.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories) for previously given out stock options. 

Quote
Early last year, as Mr. Pincus began preparing to take Zynga public, he and several other executives decided the company had doled out too many stock rights to certain people in its early days, say people familiar with the matter. The executives chose an unusual solution: They began demanding that certain employees surrender some shares or be fired.

Seems like a bunch of unethical bastards there.  I expect them to get their asses sued off in the very near future.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on December 02, 2011, 02:22:01 AM
Fans of the Marathon series can download updated versions of all three games for free (http://marathon.sourceforge.net/) on PC's, Mac, or Linux.  Hadn't really heard about the Aleph One project until now, but apparently it's been in the works for quire some time, and is an open source upgrade of the Marathon 2 engine.  The 1.0 release was apparently a couple days ago, but I haven't had any time to take a look at it myself.  Used to love the Marathon games though back when I was largely using Macs.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Murgos on December 02, 2011, 05:28:20 AM
Well, apparently Zynga is holding some of its employees over the fire (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204621904577018373223480802.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories) for previously given out stock options. 

Quote
Early last year, as Mr. Pincus began preparing to take Zynga public, he and several other executives decided the company had doled out too many stock rights to certain people in its early days, say people familiar with the matter. The executives chose an unusual solution: They began demanding that certain employees surrender some shares or be fired.

Seems like a bunch of unethical bastards there.  I expect them to get their asses sued off in the very near future.
"Hey guys, come work for me.  We don't have a lot of money right now so I can't pay you a lot, you know start-up amirite?  But, here are some stock options so that if we make it far enough to go public you'll be set."  "Oh, we don't have money for raises this year, you know start-up amirite?  How about some more options?"

Years of underpaid labor later...

"Stock options.  You GIEV preciousss?"

I've been there on start-ups, the options paying off is the whole point.  What dicks.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on December 07, 2011, 12:59:42 PM
Executive Producer on The Last Guardian, Yoshifusa Hayama, has left Sony. (http://www.shacknews.com/article/71429/the-last-guardian-executive-producer-leaves-sony)  There have also been rumors that Ueda has left Sony as well but is continuing to work on the game as a freelancer.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on December 07, 2011, 01:04:16 PM
That would be... absolutely disastrous.

Maybe he went to From. Oh god, please go to From Software.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on December 07, 2011, 01:12:58 PM
http://kotaku.com/the-last-guardian/

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Hayama joins Rupert Murdoch-owned London studio Bossa, where he will work on the outfit's first 3D social game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on December 07, 2011, 01:13:57 PM
SOCIAL GAME?

FUCK YOU UEDA. FUCK YOU.


Oh, that's Hayama. Whatever.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on December 07, 2011, 02:58:28 PM
Executive Producer on The Last Guardian, Yoshifusa Hayama, has left Sony. (http://www.shacknews.com/article/71429/the-last-guardian-executive-producer-leaves-sony)  There have also been rumors that Ueda has left Sony as well but is continuing to work on the game as a freelancer.

That game is never coming out.   :heartbreak:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on December 12, 2011, 06:26:55 AM
Oh the Humanity: The Red Cross is investigating whether video games violate war crimes conventions. (http://www.news.com.au/technology/gaming/six-hundred-million-gamers-could-be-war-criminals-red-cross-says/story-e6frfrt9-1226216184190?sv=3c6cc1285b27b79b6399320cf959eafb)

 :uhrr:

Link to bulletin (http://www.rcrcconference.org/docs_upl/en/Daily_Bulletin_3_EN.pdf)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on December 12, 2011, 06:29:06 AM
Oh the Humanity: The Red Cross is investigating whether video games violate war crimes conventions. (http://www.news.com.au/technology/gaming/six-hundred-million-gamers-could-be-war-criminals-red-cross-says/story-e6frfrt9-1226216184190?sv=3c6cc1285b27b79b6399320cf959eafb)

 :uhrr:

Link to bulletin (http://www.rcrcconference.org/docs_upl/en/Daily_Bulletin_3_EN.pdf)

They(Red Cross) already came out and said that this report was false.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on December 28, 2011, 11:08:06 AM
Quote
   

Dear Club Nintendo Member,

Thank you again for being an Elite Status Club Nintendo member this past year.

As you may have noticed, we misspelled one of the months on the Year-view Calendar insert, included alongside your 2012 Club Nintendo Calendar Elite Status gift. (It's the month between October and December.)

We're really embarrassed and apologize for this oversight; we always want our rewards and gifts to be special. We would like to offer you a replacement Year-view Calendar insert. In the interest of saving paper, we thought it better to ask if you want a replacement before automatically sending.

Please confirm by January 9th if you would like a replacement and we'll happily send you a new Year-view Calendar insert.

Thanks again for being a member of Club Nintendo.

We appreciate your continued feedback and loyalty.

Happy New Year!

Club Nintendo

I prefer the month of Nobember, actually.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 03, 2012, 06:19:10 AM
Ebay will prefer the month of Nobember 10 years from now also.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 22, 2012, 07:51:09 PM
This is a game.  So I can put it here.
http://land.allears.net/blogs/dnews/2012/02/sorcerers_of_the_magic_kingdom.html

We will be in WDW Mar 2-9 and we will definitely be trying to get in on this.  Looks like an improved Kim Possible, if anyone did that in World Showcase.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on February 29, 2012, 10:52:13 AM
So http://www.baldursgate.com/ went up late last year and had nothing on it.

And it now has something: the Baldur's Gate logo, looping Baldur's Gate title screen music, the opening quote from the intro, and a background of the character portraits. The page's source code also has some interesting stuff in it:

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Shadowy Figure- Raise Dead : Infinity Engine

For years, I clung to the memory of it. Then the memory of the memory.

And then... it returned. Better than it was before.

Pore over the tapestries and works of art hanging from our walls if you wish, Child of Bhaal... perhaps you will find a clue. But patience, ah... patience would reveal it all.

As the silver moon waxes and wanes, so too does life.

Apparently the page is registered to this fellow (https://twitter.com/#!/TrentOster) who was with Bioware and worked on the first BG, and he's been fueling speculation with some of his latest tweets.

So now I'm quite curious to see what's going to come of this.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on February 29, 2012, 11:26:26 AM
I am curious, too, given it seems like there's basically no chance this dude has an actual license from EA/Bioware or WotC. They've been totally tolerant of mods in the past, but now we're talking about a website that actually is the trademark name, uses the music, art, etc.

So, either it is more levels of misdirection than would normally happen for something EA is actually doing themselves, or this dude is going to get hit with a nice fat C&D.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on February 29, 2012, 11:30:30 AM
The Baldur's Gate license lies wholly with WOTC, I believe. And if not WOTC, then it lies with Atari. I highly doubt EA will have any say in the matter.

From what I've been seeing, smart money is on this being an iOS port of BG1.

Edit: According to some copyright pages, apparently the Infinity Engine itself along with the Bioware logo are EA copyrights, but pretty much everything else was Interplay, which then went to Atari, which I assume is now in WOTC's hands since they got the license back.

If I put on my Optimist Hat, I see the "Raise Dead: Infinity Engine" line as meaning that something's been worked out on that front. But we'll see.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on February 29, 2012, 11:37:00 AM
Apparently the company this guy works for did the HD port of MDK2, so they could be doing some kind of anniversary edition HD thing.

EDIT: I can't imagine how the hell you would control 6 dudes on iOS, but I guess it could be something like that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on February 29, 2012, 11:39:26 AM
Yeah, I just read that as well. I wouldn't say no to a high-quality HD Baldur's Gate, especially if it has actually properly working multiplayer.

I'd rather see BG2 get the treatment, but I'll happily accept the first too.

EDIT: I can't imagine how the hell you would control 6 dudes on iOS, but I guess it could be something like that.

After watching my girlfriend try to play BG1 on her tablet, the answer is: not well. But according to a guy who worked at Beamdog when they got the BG license and source code from Atari and Hasbro, it seems to work better when some adjustments are made.

Edit:

Here, have a teaser trailer!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpPU-MtBqrA


Oops, apparently it's a fake! Now this entire project's legitimacy has been cast into doubt.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on March 04, 2012, 12:17:56 PM
mariO (SMB with a Portal Gun) is now available. (http://stabyourself.net/mari0/)  Download it before it inevitably gets shut down by Nintendo and/or Valve.


Edit: Gameplay video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtcGiZelPfk)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MuffinMan on March 06, 2012, 11:05:52 PM
New SimCity (5?) Announcement Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T70evBJE93s&context=C35ba4ccADOEgsToPDskKKnfXuXLQuKCGqXkIhtItT)

Not really close or substantial enough for its own thread yet so I'll put this here. Trying not to get too excited here since I'm sure it will be dumbed down and Origin-exclusive but SimCity was the first PC game I really got into when it first came out. I still install 4 every six months or so and can easily blow through eight hours without knowing it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tgr on March 06, 2012, 11:54:53 PM
I'm getting vibes of this being a mix of Sim City Societies and CitiesXL. Add Origin, and all I can do is sigh.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yoru on March 07, 2012, 12:03:25 AM
Funny. Just last night, I was talking to a friend of mine about not playing ME3 due to it only being on Origin. I said that the only thing that could possibly get me to buy in to Origin was a good, faithful remake of SimCity, preferably around the SC2K level of complexity.

Well played, EA. Well played.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 07, 2012, 07:15:33 AM
That looks snazzy. I hope single player will allow you to do multiple cities/regions/whatever. Fuckamultiplayer.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 07, 2012, 07:19:04 AM
Funny. Just last night, I was talking to a friend of mine about not playing ME3 due to it only being on Origin. I said that the only thing that could possibly get me to buy in to Origin was a good, faithful remake of SimCity, preferably around the SC2K level of complexity.

Well played, EA. Well played.
Funny because just last night I said I'll never play this because of Origin.

There is nothing that will make me install that shit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on March 07, 2012, 12:20:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih2BoI0BH_Q

 :drill:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on March 07, 2012, 01:26:04 PM
Out of sheer amusement and to hopefully make Schild's eye twitch a bit:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=465809

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The original news was that Monster Hunter Portable 3 was listed on Play.com. The subsequent carnival of stupid began when a photoshopped image from 4chan emerged, purporting to show listings for GTA: Vice City Nights, Final Fantasy Type-0 HD, and Tales of Innocence R:


While a quick search of Play.com would quickly reveal that none of these other listings actually existed, somehow Eurogamer seized upon the image. Without any fact checking whatsoever, it quickly became front page news:


Joystiq saw it posted on Eurogamer and, again without any fact checking whatsoever, posted it as confirmed news as well:


In no time at all, the stupidity had gone mainstream:

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Terrible, just terrible. Gaming jornalism is such a joke.

http://uk.vita.ign.com/articles/122/1220198p1.html
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/03/07/pl...ghts-more-for/
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...ce-city-nights
http://www.gamespot.com/news/grand-t...report-6364921
http://kotaku.com/5891238/new-grand-...headed-to-vita

All based on one photoshopped image

Since then, Jason Schreier from Kotaku has come in demanding proof that it was a shop and it's just become absolutely hilarious. And sad. But overall just business as usual.

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Even worse is that everyone refers to Eurogamer as the source and they have fantastic words such as these:

"The listing has since been yanked, but Eurogamer was able to capture a screenshot of the page. It suggests the game will carry a €39.99 (about $50) price point." -Gamespot

"Eurogamer was alerted to this by reader el_pollo_diablo, who sent us the image displayed in this story." -Eurogamer

"Sony is hosting the PlayStation Vita Game Heaven on March 9, and we have a feeling that it just might include these titles." -Joystiq

"Eurogamer was alerted to the leak by a reader, posting images of all four games listed on the site. The link to Monster Hunter 3 is still live on Play.com." -IGN

"Perhaps the most interesting news here is an HD version of action-RPG Final Fantasy Type-0, which publisher Square Enix released for PlayStation Portable in Japan last year. Although the chances that we'll see that PSP game in the U.S. or Europe seem fairly slim, an HD remake for PlayStation Vita is far more likely to make its way over here." -Kotaku

smh.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on March 07, 2012, 01:42:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih2BoI0BH_Q

 :drill:

Holy shit.
And it's coming out on PC too?  Best news I've heard all year.

Assuming they can keep the soundtrack intact.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Segoris on March 07, 2012, 01:46:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih2BoI0BH_Q

 :drill:

I'm reminded of T&C Surf and was hoping for a Thrilla Gorilla Surfer


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on March 07, 2012, 02:01:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih2BoI0BH_Q

 :drill:

Very cool, though if I'm completely honest, I'd rather they did Future.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 08, 2012, 12:27:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih2BoI0BH_Q

 :drill:
This will make me buy a Vita.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on March 08, 2012, 12:33:29 PM
If it ever comes out for the Vita.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on March 08, 2012, 12:33:59 PM
So Fez developer Phil Fish has capped off his GDC week that started with him humiliating and embarrassing a Japanese developer at what was meant to be a respectful panel to discuss an indie game film by crowing about the Indie Games Festival tossing him an award for the game he has yet to release:

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https://twitter.com/#!/PHIL_FISH/status/177739081843875840
@CrowTGamer i just won the grand prize at IGF tonight. suck my dick. choke on it.

https://twitter.com/#!/PHIL_FISH/status/177740040393334787
@Grabcocque i think it was a shameful, corrupt joke until i won it, and made it legit. you're welcome.

https://twitter.com/#!/PHIL_FISH/status/177742654518476802
no but seriously, suck my dick.

https://twitter.com/#!/PHIL_FISH/status/177821531479605249
you guys thought i was an egotistical asshole before...

That's probably enough to get me to not buy Fez when it finally maybe comes out eventually sometime.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 08, 2012, 12:36:51 PM
Fez was announced years ago, it's still not out, and any company that WANTED to copy it in an even better style could have done so by now.

There's nothing exceptional to see here.

(Edit: Like, seriously, I stopped caring about that thing in 2009. It's like Bob's Game (http://bobsgame.com/) to me now.)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on March 09, 2012, 06:06:03 AM
CryEngine3 Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TtgW20IEm0&feature=g-u-u&context=G207ffd9FUAAAAAAAFAA)

It's just beautiful.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 09, 2012, 07:23:15 AM
Is this going to shorten or lengthen development times?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on March 09, 2012, 01:54:38 PM
There's nothing exceptional to see here.

Apparently there's something (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/03/07/the-competition-the-story-behind-the-igfs-critics/) to see here; whether or not it's exceptional is up to debate, but it's something interesting at least.

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Fez, a novel puzzle-platformer in which you shift between 2D perspectives, may not be coming to PC any time soon but the game is significant in a wider sense. Significant because it has been nominated for two prizes at this year’s Independent Games Festival awards when a few vocal critics have argued it really shouldn’t have been.

The controversy is summarised thus: In 2008, Fez won in the Excellence in Visual Arts category at the IGF. It certainly is a lovely looking game, I can personally testify to that. In 2012 it remains unreleased and subsequently re-enters the IGF for that year (and is eventually nominated for both the Technical Excellence award and the Seamus McNally Grand Prize).

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I smile at the prospect of indie conspiracy theorists. Four of the people who have worked on Fez were jurors in the 2011 competition – Rich Vreeland, Paul Robertson, Renaud Bédard and Phil Fish himself. To some, they are members of a magic circle – the indie Illuminati. To Phil, they’re a group of friends. He laughs at the idea that there’s anyone somehow pulling the string of the indie scene.

Yes, I’m good friends with Brandon Boyer and he’s running the IGF but I don’t think he’s gonna let that…you know, he’s not going to be biased towards us. The guy, he takes this very seriously. It’s just, yeah, we’re a bunch of friends but it’s not like because we’re a bunch of friends we’re all secretly helping each other out to trump the even littler – littlest – guys. There’s so many people on TIGSource that feel like they’re being fucked over by the indie elite. There’s no such thing! The fact that indie games has become a scene just pisses me off. Because now there’s all this scene drama and jealousy and enemies…”

Fez then goes on to win the $30,000 grand prize (which will be a massive help to Fish who has Microsoft breathing down his neck and is six figures in debt due to his inability to finish Fez) in what will probably be the last year that someone will be able to submit their game a second time to the IGF's competition. Exceptional? Probably not. But interesting.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on March 10, 2012, 04:30:41 AM
Is this going to shorten or lengthen development times?

Has any technology shortened development times?

It seems like the answer should be yes and there are some things that have made things faster purely mechanically, for example better UV unwrapping tools, but the answer is really kind of no.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 11, 2012, 07:40:49 PM
I'm not digging it. The closer we get to reality, the further we fall into that uncanny valley.

Skin looked like rubber, rocks looked like legos.

Just don't dig it. This isn't a case of "pointy knees." I actually mean this as I say it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MuffinMan on March 11, 2012, 09:52:55 PM
Yea I couldn't care less about them showing off how good they think their skin textures are, I want to see solid facial animations.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 13, 2012, 11:03:00 PM
I want to have fun.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on March 14, 2012, 01:01:14 AM
The more they focus on their graphics, the less fun their games turn out to be.  Their first was still their best, IMO.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tgr on March 14, 2012, 01:44:26 AM
The more they focus on their graphics, the less fun their games turn out to be.  Their first was still their best, IMO.
Oddly enough, this seems to correlate with a lot of AAA games these days.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on March 14, 2012, 01:53:56 AM
The more they focus on their graphics, the less fun their games turn out to be.  Their first was still their best, IMO.
Oddly enough, this seems to correlate with a lot of AAA games these days.

Yeah, probably.  I just thought it was particularly egregious in this case.  Reason being, in the original Far Cry, despite the fact that the game got rave for the graphics, it's actual shooting mechanics were brilliant.  I fired off my fair share of military weapons back when I was in the Army, and they hit it pretty close to the mark.  Subsequent games from Crytek improved the graphics for sure...but the actual shooting mechanics became worse and worse.  Preparing for their console releases, no doubt  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on March 14, 2012, 03:27:17 AM
The more they focus on their graphics, the less fun their games turn out to be.  Their first was still their best, IMO.
Oddly enough, this seems to correlate with a lot of AAA games these days.

Yeah, probably.  I just thought it was particularly egregious in this case.  Reason being, in the original Far Cry, despite the fact that the game got rave for the graphics, it's actual shooting mechanics were brilliant.  I fired off my fair share of military weapons back when I was in the Army, and they hit it pretty close to the mark.  Subsequent games from Crytek improved the graphics for sure...but the actual shooting mechanics became worse and worse.  Preparing for their console releases, no doubt  :oh_i_see:

I think they were pretty much forced to put more focus on consoles after Crysis tanked at launch (which was their own fault for making a game nobody could play at max settings).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tgr on March 14, 2012, 04:46:20 AM
They could've just realized that graphics do not make games, and they haven't done so for a long while. We got over a certain level, and anything beyond that, while nice, isn't vital.

Or, I guess that's not really relevant for the younger generation, who for some reason seems to go all ga-ga over graphics still. vOv


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on March 14, 2012, 06:11:27 AM
They could've just realized that graphics do not make games, and they haven't done so for a long while. We got over a certain level, and anything beyond that, while nice, isn't vital.

Or, I guess that's not really relevant for the younger generation, who for some reason seems to go all ga-ga over graphics still. vOv

While I generally agree, I think it depends a little on the genre.  FPSs, in my opinion, haven't benefitted from better graphics since possible COD 3.  Or maybe even back to HL2/Far Cry.  Which isn't to say they couldn't still improve, I just think it doesn't matter much anymore at this point.

MMOs still have quite a bit of graphical envelope to push, and I would like to see better graphics from them in general.  They are not even close to realism yet.

Racing games may have nearly maxed out.  It is hard to imagine how there could be any significant graphical leaps from the current crop.

Your big open world sandboxy games, ala GTA, still have a ways to go and could used some major improvements.  Maybe they suffer from some of the same issues that MMOs do, because of the sheer size.

Then you get Skyrim, which proves that RPGs had a ton of potential improvement.  Even Skyrim can be much better.  It looks a treat on highest possible settings, but it suffers plenty of issues.  It has a bunch of performance improvements that can be made, and it is generally way ahead of other RPGs.

And so on.  Sometimes graphics still matter, and can noticeably improve a game.  But your game better be fun to start with, or your fucked.  Pretty alone will no longer cut it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 14, 2012, 07:17:57 AM
FPSs, in my opinion, haven't benefitted from better graphics since possible COD 3.  Or maybe even back to HL2/Far Cry.  Which isn't to say they couldn't still improve, I just think it doesn't matter much anymore at this point.
I would counter that something like FEAR would've totally sucked if not for the graphical portion. Flashlights and environmental effects add a lot to the game, for me. I care more about immersion, though. I'd rather have a really immersive experience with mediocre mechanics (Amnesia) than something that had perfect mechanics but was just a bland setting (Rift, I guess, I don't play shooters anymore).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tgr on March 14, 2012, 07:49:32 AM
FEAR wasn't really very awesome graphically when it came out, it was actually rather middle-range, and I've absolutely no problems with playing that game today, and not even think about the graphics.

Then again, the main reason I'm not really into playing Doom or even Wolfenstein 3D, today, is because improvements in the FPS controls have made me cranky when trying to play wolf3d and doom, but them's the breaks.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 14, 2012, 03:41:00 PM
Atmosphere doesn't have much at all to do with graphical quality.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on March 14, 2012, 11:55:00 PM
FPSs, in my opinion, haven't benefitted from better graphics since possible COD 3.  Or maybe even back to HL2/Far Cry.  Which isn't to say they couldn't still improve, I just think it doesn't matter much anymore at this point.
I would counter that something like FEAR would've totally sucked if not for the graphical portion. Flashlights and environmental effects add a lot to the game, for me. I care more about immersion, though. I'd rather have a really immersive experience with mediocre mechanics (Amnesia) than something that had perfect mechanics but was just a bland setting (Rift, I guess, I don't play shooters anymore).

I think we are actually saying basically the same thing.  You are probably just lumping FEAR into my FPS example, but I was thinking about the typical dime-a-dozen multiplayer shooter when I was making the point.  In summary, in some cases it makes a huuuuge difference.  In other cases, almost none at all.  News at 11.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sjofn on March 15, 2012, 12:12:03 AM
Atmosphere doesn't have much at all to do with graphical quality.

Yep.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 15, 2012, 06:48:52 AM
Atmosphere doesn't have much at all to do with graphical quality.
Depends on how you define quality. There's technical prowess and there's creative leveraging of an engine. Something like FEAR or Amnesia is the latter and what I was talking aboot.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on March 15, 2012, 09:44:15 AM
Regarding the recent Obsidian layoffs and game cancellation I give you what is pretty much the saddest thing:



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on March 15, 2012, 11:18:48 AM
How can anyone be so crazy as to tie their payment of royalties to a goddamn Metacritic score? That just seems the height of stupid business plans.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: shiznitz on March 15, 2012, 11:43:10 AM
Regarding the recent Obsidian layoffs and game cancellation I give you what is pretty much the saddest thing:


From the spoiler: "I would of thought..."  *Sigh*  I guess it is easy to turn off your brain wihen using Twitter.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on March 15, 2012, 11:43:32 AM
Well when you're desperate, you'll agree to pretty much anything, I guess.

And in other news, Giant Bomb's been sold to CBS and will be folded into Gamespot and will even be moving back into the same offices with them.

Welp!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Salamok on March 15, 2012, 11:59:37 AM
How can anyone be so crazy as to tie their payment of royalties to a goddamn Metacritic score? That just seems the height of stupid business plans.

Even more retarded is how can they do that then not finagle another point through any means possible.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on March 15, 2012, 12:22:24 PM
Hell, just tying any sort of revenue to METACRITIC or any critical score is just "Smash my balls with a hammer" stupid. Tie it to revenue, sales numbers, magic unicorn storms over the Baltic Sea, ANYTHING else.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: sickrubik on March 15, 2012, 12:27:06 PM
re: Giant Bomb

I am actually optimistic when it comes to the Gamespot/CBS thing.

Given what John Davidson has started to do to turn around Gamespot and CBSi intent to have good Tech related reporting.. I'm not going to worry. And so far, the word is that it won't be folded into each other, per some of the higher ups at Whiskey Media.

They've (CBSi) pretty much left CNET alone (for whoever you might feel about them), but several people did leave CNET after that whole thing, so who knows.

The current president (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Lanzone) of CBSi is very tech related and seems to be interested in leaving web based content around tech stuff alone.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on March 15, 2012, 12:43:36 PM
Considering that Gersmann being let go from Gamespot was pretty much what killed my interest in those kinds of sites, and that Giant Bomb is the only one I currently read, I'm highly skeptical of this ending well from my point of view.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: sickrubik on March 15, 2012, 12:53:02 PM
John Davidson was not the VP of Gamespot then. He was still over at 1Up/GFW/whatever before THAT went all to shit. BTW, almost the entire GB team was at Gamespot when that Gerstmann stuff went down. I really can't imagine them signing on with something at this point that they were not comfortable with.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: kildorn on March 15, 2012, 01:03:10 PM
I'm amused/saddened that they not only tied their bonuses to metacritic, but also didn't seem to have any legitimate sliding scale. Just "meet this very high target or gtfo"

As I understand it though, publishers absolutely adore metacritic ratings. Possibly because it lets them be lazy and not actually read reviews or look at the product.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 15, 2012, 01:42:55 PM
I have a hard time believing they tie bonuses to metacritic, based mostly on compensated reviews and wanna-be journos and not...err...profits earned? Derrwha?

I guess schild is onto something with his burning revulsion of the workings of the 'industry'.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 15, 2012, 04:00:32 PM
Metacritic is awful, and publishers do in fact love it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on March 15, 2012, 04:34:39 PM
Not feeling very positive about the Giant Bomb thing. The fragile ecosystem that allowed for their brand of crazy has been broken and being reattached to the blandest of the bland mainstream sites will not help. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on March 15, 2012, 06:01:45 PM
Not feeling very positive about the Giant Bomb thing. The fragile ecosystem that allowed for their brand of crazy has been broken and being reattached to the blandest of the bland mainstream sites will not help. 

Not too keen on GB becoming part of CBS, but I'll pretty much just wait and see.

Even weirder is what's happening at (former) Whiskey Media site Tested.com (http://www.tested.com/news/so-whats-happening-with-tested-video/3744/).



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on March 15, 2012, 09:20:11 PM
Apparently Obsidian's managed to catch a break, and is now working on a new secret project, according to some digging done by their forumers. Speculation is that an ex-publisher's come to their rescue, so we'll see how that pans out.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: sickrubik on March 15, 2012, 09:33:46 PM
Not feeling very positive about the Giant Bomb thing. The fragile ecosystem that allowed for their brand of crazy has been broken and being reattached to the blandest of the bland mainstream sites will not help.  

Not too keen on GB becoming part of CBS, but I'll pretty much just wait and see.

Even weirder is what's happening at (former) Whiskey Media site Tested.com (http://www.tested.com/news/so-whats-happening-with-tested-video/3744/).

John Davidson sat down with Gertsmann to talk about The Stuff. It really sounds like it came down to suits... Suits that are no longer there. And yeah, excited for the Tested guys.

http://www.gamespot.com/shows/gamespot-live/?event=gamespot_and_giant_bomb20120315


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on March 15, 2012, 09:44:01 PM
Yeah, I've liked John Davidson since back in his 1Up days.  The guy can run a site or a magazine, and still just be one of the guys, doing podcasts and stuff.  I think if they got him on the Bombcast even if only from time to time, it would be great.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 16, 2012, 06:26:28 AM
we'll see how that pans out.
I bet Jack's going to get them to the glory hole!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 16, 2012, 07:41:28 AM
Atmosphere doesn't have much at all to do with graphical quality.
Depends on how you define quality. There's technical prowess and there's creative leveraging of an engine. Something like FEAR or Amnesia is the latter and what I was talking aboot.

I'm using quality in the technical or objective way.  Like: The graphical quality of Super Mario World is superior to that of Super Mario Bros. 3.  Use of the technical medium to create something brilliant, that's not what I meant by graphical quality.  That would be quality of the artist.  Like: The quality of the artists that worked on EQ2 was very low.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 16, 2012, 07:43:29 AM
Apparently Obsidian's managed to catch a break, and is now working on a new secret project, according to some digging done by their forumers. Speculation is that an ex-publisher's come to their rescue, so we'll see how that pans out.

Hopefully they can all get some journeyman plumber jobs, leading to eventual union pay and a satisfactory distance from game programming.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 16, 2012, 07:45:17 AM
How can anyone be so crazy as to tie their payment of royalties to a goddamn Metacritic score? That just seems the height of stupid business plans.

Apparently it worked like a fucking charm.

Maybe you are looking at it from the perspective of the working man.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on March 16, 2012, 04:22:20 PM
Heh. It worked for Bethesda. Obsidian... not so much.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ragnoros on March 17, 2014, 11:48:32 PM
Eh, I can only wish Obsidian the best. I got more mileage out of New Vegas than Skyrim, which is saying something. I just hate how their games are so damn hit or miss. As conversely I got all of three hours out of DS3 before I never touched it again, which is practically a felony.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 31, 2012, 08:28:12 PM
Got Platinum on Club Nintendo today, thanks to a couple purchases by the boy.  So I ordered a blue Boo notebook for him.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on April 01, 2012, 04:48:14 PM
Looks like Sega of America got gutted yesterday, lots of layoffs.  PR release says they're restructuring to refocus on their core IPs, Sonic (obviously), Aliens, Total War, and Football Manager.  Sad, I liked their games, despite their shit PC ports.

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Sega's "extraordinary loss" (caused in part by costs from this restructuring) will see the company's expected profits drop from 38 billion yen ($462 million) to 20 billion yen ($243 million,) with sales revenue dipping about a half-billion dollars. The cancellation of these projects and this reform is estimated to have a 7.1 billion yen ($86.5 million) price tag.

http://kotaku.com/5898026/sega-of-america-walloped-by-layoffs-western-publishing-reduced-to-sonic-and-three-others

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/03/30/sega-canceling-games-cutting-jobs-in-us-and-europe-to-restructu/#continued


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 13, 2012, 09:27:04 AM
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/85916/battle_space_cbt.png)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on April 13, 2012, 11:06:45 AM
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/04/12/oh-dear-cc-tiberium-alliances-may-have-borrowed/
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f I were EA, it would be right about now I’d be issuing a memo to all my employees and contracted developers to say, “Hey guys, um, can we all stop doing overtly dumb things for a bit? Cheers, thanks, love EA.” With an internet backlash against the company, part deserved, part self-entitled arsetits leaping on the latest channel for their boundless streams of hate, now was perhaps not the best time for it to be noticed that Command & Conquer Tiberium Alliances has – allegedly – been copying its tanks from Warhammer 40K. (Usually slapping in an “allegedly” is a coward’s way of making an accusation, but you might want to see just how similar they are in the pics below.)

As reported by Eurogamer, and spotted by Reddit, the designs for the new free-to-play C&C game do seem somewhat… borrowed.
(http://i.imgur.com/8YBGg.jpg)
(http://imgur.com/0kdcz)

Don't worry EA, it's not like Games Workshop's lawyers have a reputation of striking down with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to make money from GW's IPs or anything.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on April 13, 2012, 11:11:21 AM
Don't worry EA, it's not like Games Workshop's lawyers have a reputation of striking down with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to make money from GW's IPs or anything.

Actually, they're just good at bullying lone dudes in garages. Their first real case, against Chapterhouse Studios, has become a farce.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on April 17, 2012, 04:19:48 AM
On the other hand, Blizzard's been getting away with it for years.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on May 08, 2012, 11:14:00 AM
The possible return of Carmageddon (through Kickstarter) :

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/stainlessgames/carmageddon-reincarnation

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After years of negotiation, the original founders of Stainless recently bought back ALL the rights to Carmageddon. So now it’s back in its rightful home, we’ve embarked on the journey that will reboot the brand, and we want YOU to join us on that journey.

I really enjoyed Carmageddon, it was fun as hell, would like to see a comeback :)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on May 24, 2012, 10:07:13 AM
Metro: Last Light - Enter the Metro Short Film (Official UK)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc9LNwddfLE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc9LNwddfLE)

I enjoyed Metro 2033 and so I'm slightly excited about this despite it being delayed until 2013.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on May 30, 2012, 08:32:25 AM
Today CD Projekt will hold its Summer 2012 conference, in collaboration with GoG: beside a new IP announcement from the software house and other stuff, from various hints I gathered on Ultima websites and Twitter, a new Ultima game might be announced, probably the one Paul Barnett has been working on for the past couple years.

Conference starts at 5pm GMT (one and half hour)

http://www.gog.com/news/see_our_summer_2012_conference_live


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on May 30, 2012, 08:36:43 AM
a new Ultima game might be announced, probably the one Paul Barnett has been working on for the past couple years.

These two things in conjunction might well be the final death of a dream.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ffc on May 30, 2012, 10:33:18 AM
I'm watching the stream and I counter the Barnett rumor with the new IP announcement being (based on?) Cyberpunk RPG using the Witcher 2 engine.  They also keep mentioning Blade Runner.

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2938963/cyberpunk.jpg)

 :drill:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on May 30, 2012, 12:36:45 PM
If Paul Barnett gets his greasy, sunglass covered fingers on the actual Cyberpunk 2020 IP to make a game, I will rain unholy fire down upon this planet because we will all deserve ANNIHILATION.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on May 30, 2012, 01:12:44 PM
On the other hand, if we get Cyberpunk 2020 and Barnett is not involved, I will be very, very happy.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on May 30, 2012, 02:14:02 PM
Yes.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on May 30, 2012, 02:41:51 PM
MOTHERFUCKER. They are making a cyberpunk game. Is Barnett involved? Please tell me he is not.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on May 30, 2012, 03:13:36 PM
If Paul Barnett gets his greasy, sunglass covered fingers on the actual Cyberpunk 2020 IP to make a game, I will rain unholy fire down upon this planet because we will all deserve ANNIHILATION.


MOTHERFUCKER. They are making a cyberpunk game. Is Barnett involved? Please tell me he is not.

 :headscratch:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on May 30, 2012, 03:49:36 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Barnett_%28video_game_designer%29


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on May 30, 2012, 10:57:38 PM
Silicon Knights's lawsuit against Epic over with the jury finding for Epic on all counts (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/171362/Epic_prevails_in_suit_against_Silicon_Knights_receives_445M_in_damages.php) and in favor of Epic on their counter claims to the tune of $4.45M.  Given that SK's last game was that really terrible X-Men game that nobody played, one wonders if they're done for good now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sir Fodder on May 31, 2012, 10:59:59 AM
Just picked up the new Humble Indie Bundle (https://www.humblebundle.com/): Bastion, Psychonauts, Amnesia, Limbo plus more. Nice!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on May 31, 2012, 11:27:57 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Barnett_%28video_game_designer%29


No, i understood that part, I was confused about why he had that reaction, then 2 hours later had the same reaction as if he was hearing the news for the first time. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on May 31, 2012, 11:34:38 AM
Because I can't see anything that says Barnett is involved. I would rather they didn't make the game if he's going to be involved in its creation.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on June 25, 2012, 06:24:33 PM
http://www.redbubble.com/shop/featured+varia+mucha+t-shirts


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on June 26, 2012, 07:27:46 AM
Mucha style is so awesome.

Too bad it's a crappy nintendo thing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on June 27, 2012, 02:08:33 PM
There is quite an art nouveau surge right now, so you can probably find one featuring a wood pile if you are diligent.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kageru on June 28, 2012, 06:36:59 AM

I've got a Mucha (http://www.threadless.com/product/2443/Mucha_Lucha) T-shirt, but the art is not so great, the joke sort of limited and the threadless T-shirts are terrible quality now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on July 07, 2012, 01:32:45 PM
Video of a pretty impressive realtime tech demo from Square Enix.

Agni's Philosophy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVX0OUO9ptU)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on July 17, 2012, 12:29:01 PM
Have any of you guys  ever played Shen Mue on the Dreamcast? Because  I have fond memories of the game and I was wondering if, nowadays,  there is a game that resembles it, gameplay wise. Hmm, maybe the GTA series? (beside the Dreamcast, I never owned a console).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on July 17, 2012, 10:48:36 PM
If you can find a copy of it, Shenmue II on the oXbox is playable on the 360. Aside from the whole not having a 360 thing I guess.

Shenmue's a pretty unique game, and I can't think of much like it. Heavy Rain or something maybe?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on July 17, 2012, 10:52:49 PM
The Yakuza series.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on July 18, 2012, 06:57:22 PM
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/85916/nixtoons/Untitled10.png)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on July 19, 2012, 06:07:49 PM
This is so neat  :heart:

"The evolution of PC games" in 2:31, especially through sounds and quick visuals. Quite a trip down the memory lane :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuO-s1kugLs


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kageru on July 19, 2012, 08:25:56 PM

That's pretty cool. Always great to be reminded how fast the games have evolved and some old memories refreshed.

...  :heart: loderunner.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Xilren's Twin on July 24, 2012, 05:14:36 AM
Heroes of Might and Magic online is officially dead.  Long live the king! Netdragon spammed my email with this announcement.
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Greetings, Heroes of Might and Magic Online!

We're sincerely sorry that Heroes of Might and Magic Online will no longer be in operation, but the CO team is happy to welcome you into the fantasy world of Conquer!

Shocking I know.  I think the last post i saw on this was like 2010?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on July 24, 2012, 05:41:59 AM
Welp, I'm officially old. I am offended by a videogame for reasons other than "it sucks and I paid money for it".

Far Cry 3's multiplayer is going to have a "mini-game" afterwards where the winning team gets to torture/kill or release the best player from the losing team.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on July 24, 2012, 06:22:45 AM
"Detain"


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 24, 2012, 06:55:22 AM
Ah, remember back when we could just get offended by tits?

How I used to love being offended. All day long, sometimes.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on July 24, 2012, 08:47:41 AM
Welp, I'm officially old. I am offended by a videogame for reasons other than "it sucks and I paid money for it".

Far Cry 3's multiplayer is going to have a "mini-game" afterwards where the winning team gets to torture/kill or release the best player from the losing team.

I guess you never played Commando Libya on C64?  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on July 24, 2012, 12:38:18 PM
Welp, I'm officially old. I am offended by a videogame for reasons other than "it sucks and I paid money for it".

Far Cry 3's multiplayer is going to have a "mini-game" afterwards where the winning team gets to torture/kill or release the best player from the losing team.

I guess you never played Commando Libya on C64?  :awesome_for_real:
Man I played a lot of C64 games as a kid and never heard of that. That certainly is a thing. Still offends me less however.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Llyse on August 03, 2012, 01:50:53 AM
The finals of the last Starcraft:Broodwar OSL is tomorrow night GMT +9. After this Korean e-sports will finally have completely moved to SC2

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Thirteen years of history. Thirteen years of stories. Thirteen years of Brood War. It’s all led up to this single match. Heo “JangBi” Yeong Moo and Jung “Fantasy” Myung Hoon will face each other in the first and only repeat finals in Starleague history, for the honor of being the last Brood War Starleague champion. Fittingly, this finale will kick off with a revival of the original eSports rivalry: a Legends Match between Lim “BoxeR” Yo Hwan and Hong “YellOw” Jin Ho.

From Blizzard (http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/6855427/The_Crowning_Event_OGN_Starleagues_Brood_War_Finals_-8_1_2012)

You can visit here (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=265636) for more background and watch it live (http://www.twitch.tv/ogn_star2).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on August 03, 2012, 06:30:11 AM
Even though Boxer and Yellow are probably out of practice, I think I am more excited for their show match than the real finals.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ezrast on August 04, 2012, 09:03:10 AM
So, Awesomenauts? Anyone played?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Evildrider on August 04, 2012, 01:57:07 PM
This is so neat  :heart:

"The evolution of PC games" in 2:31, especially through sounds and quick visuals. Quite a trip down the memory lane :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuO-s1kugLs

That vid reminded me how much I used to love the old SSI TSR games like Pools of Radiance.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on August 04, 2012, 02:47:43 PM
I keep meaning to break out my copies some time (moved 'em to CD from the 5.25" floppies I had them on), but they're unplayable without the code wheels which got lost in a fire.  :heartbreak:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on August 04, 2012, 03:19:44 PM
http://www.weekendwastemonster.net/crpgs/pool/codewheel/codewheel.html


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 04, 2012, 04:25:02 PM
I've seen MOBA twice in one day, don't know what it represents.  Mefense Of Bee Ancients?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 04, 2012, 04:44:57 PM
Multiplayer Online Battle Arena.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on August 04, 2012, 05:27:00 PM
I fucking hate that stupid acronym.  Takes four words to say nothing.  Multiplayer AND online, you don't say?  And there's BATTLE in this video game?  AMAZING!  It would be like calling FPSes "Personal Weapon Interaction Simulation."  I guess they were just sick of people calling them "DotA clones."

As for Awesomenauts, I haven't played it myself, the stuff I've seen from it looks kind of shallow, but not horribly unfun.  Doesn't look BAD, but it definitely gives off a bit of a budget title vibe, and considering they're competing against games which are free, I don't know that I'd buy it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 04, 2012, 06:43:21 PM
Multiplayer Online Battle Arena.

Almost as bad as MMORPG.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on August 05, 2012, 01:41:37 AM
I guess they were just sick of people calling them "DotA clones."

One or the other of the clone makers was the first to push it I think. It doesn't do your marketing any favors when you have to use the name of one of your competitors to describe your own game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Megrim on August 05, 2012, 11:14:53 PM
I never could figure out why people don't just use "Tower Defense".


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on August 05, 2012, 11:20:58 PM
Because it was already taken!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on August 05, 2012, 11:42:28 PM
And for most people "tower defense" conjures up a mental image of a very different type of game, even if they have similarities.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on August 06, 2012, 02:51:18 AM
This is so neat  :heart:

"The evolution of PC games" in 2:31, especially through sounds and quick visuals. Quite a trip down the memory lane :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuO-s1kugLs

It's me at 0:02!  :heart:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on August 06, 2012, 08:13:05 AM
Speaking of MOBAs  :why_so_serious: apparently Stardock is making one and I have no interest in the genre probably.

But I do have a beta key. PM ftw.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on August 06, 2012, 09:48:23 PM
Someone (not Team Gizka) actually finished a KOTOR2 restoration project:

http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/07/26/community-heroes-modders-debug-and-restore-cut-content-in-knights-of-the-old-republic-ii/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on August 06, 2012, 09:55:54 PM
Kinda late imo.

Dashus was such a spiteful douchebag.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on August 06, 2012, 10:24:08 PM
That particular ModDB restoration's actually been done for a couple years now, but it keeps getting updated, which is good.

And yeah, Dashus was kind of a cock. What all went on with him anyway?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on August 07, 2012, 04:30:19 AM
This is all I know:
http://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/team-gizka-leader-dashus-just-got-pwned.155813/

After that the mod kind of disappeared off my radar.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on August 08, 2012, 07:22:23 AM
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive is now available for pre-order on Steam.  At only 13.50 for the pre-order it was a no brainer for me.  Counter Strike is maybe the shooter I've played more raw hours than any other in my life, and I'd be shocked not to get my money's worth even if I put it down after a month or two this time around.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on August 08, 2012, 07:38:15 AM
LOL console shooter.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on August 08, 2012, 07:52:46 AM
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive is now available for pre-order on Steam.  At only 13.50 for the pre-order it was a no brainer for me.  Counter Strike is maybe the shooter I've played more raw hours than any other in my life, and I'd be shocked not to get my money's worth even if I put it down after a month or two this time around.

For $1.50 I can wait and see.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on August 08, 2012, 11:08:11 AM
This is why I posted it in this thread instead of making a new thread for the game itself  :awesome_for_real:

Seriously though, I'm willing to admit to being more or less a fanboy of the series, so the game would have to be disastrous for me not to enjoy it.  Figure I'd post here in case anyone else happened to be interested in pre-ordering, though I realize F13 isn't big into competitive shooter titles.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on August 08, 2012, 12:17:41 PM
This is why I posted it in this thread instead of making a new thread for the game itself  :awesome_for_real:

Seriously though, I'm willing to admit to being more or less a fanboy of the series, so the game would have to be disastrous for me not to enjoy it.  Figure I'd post here in case anyone else happened to be interested in pre-ordering, though I realize F13 isn't big into competitive shooter titles.

I recently rediscovered all the crazy server side map mods in CS1.6. Too much fun, and total muscle memory.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on August 08, 2012, 12:41:28 PM
I played CS obsessively back in its beta days until they destroyed the game around beta 6.5 or so :awesome_for_real: I was good enough to have been a part of the original W.E.W. started by Scissors until I got kicked out for kicking other W.E.W. members who were incognito and constantly fucking with the W.E.W. server settings like gravity :awesome_for_real: :oh_i_see: (Yes they complained to Scissors because I kicked and banned them for being fucktards).

I'll definitely give the new one a try but my days as a hardcore FPS player are long past.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on August 08, 2012, 06:36:28 PM
Yeah, Beta 6 or so (when all the wallhacks got to be utterly ridiculous) was when I started to lose interest in CS, and I didn't play it much after. I've looked into CS:GO, but I just don't think the magic will be there. I don't even really see the point of it, since it just looks like a prettier CS:Source with a shitty UI, but hey.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on August 16, 2012, 12:27:17 PM
As you might know, next 24th September will mark the 15th year anniversary for Ultima Online: early in October, it looks like we'll get an interesting "post mortem" during GDC online, with Raph Koster, Starr Long and Rich Vogel :)
http://schedule.gdconline.com/session/13473949?_cid=GDCO12_Update6

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At first, it was mostly a team of newbies. For a while, the office space was a few rooms on a floor that was gutted for construction -- you could literally walk off the 5th floor of building and plunge to your death if you weren't careful. The artists sat in the hallway. And the team was out to change everything. Ultima Online was not only one of the first graphical MMORPGs, it also set the standard for player vs player combat and sandbox/emergent gameplay in online titles for many years to come. Three of the UO team's chief members -- Raph Koster, Rich Vogel, and Starr Long (all of whom went on to shape the online gaming landscape) -- will deliver a postmortem on the landmark title, reflecting on the challenges they faced from early development to maintaining the game well after its launch. Come learn how a combination of insane ambition and idealistic cluelessness can sometimes result in creating something that changes people's lives and the course of an industry.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: trias_e on August 17, 2012, 09:02:35 PM
If you've been on the fence about trying TSW (a fence should promptly get off of in favor of the game), it's $25 at amazon.  Even if you have no desire to play an MMO, the game is easily worth 25 bucks on the merits of it's RPG/adventure game content alone.

http://www.amazon.com/Electronic-Arts-41018ecret-World1-Download/dp/B007VTVKG6/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Megrim on August 19, 2012, 07:52:25 PM
Yeah, Beta 6 or so (when all the wallhacks got to be utterly ridiculous) was when I started to lose interest in CS, and I didn't play it much after. I've looked into CS:GO, but I just don't think the magic will be there. I don't even really see the point of it, since it just looks like a prettier CS:Source with a shitty UI, but hey.

I've been playing it. The magic is there, and the UI is not shitty. Fragging kids through walls never gets old.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on August 23, 2012, 08:13:56 AM
I don't have an Xbox 360.  I have a PS3 and a gaming laptop, which I don't much like because it's small.  BUT... even though I got Borderlands for the PS3 and loved it, I should get Borderlands 2 for the PC.  Right?  I don't know why I think that but I just do.  I'm usually wrong about everything so tell me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on August 23, 2012, 08:46:27 AM
Despite complaints about the consolization of Borderlands for the PC, I never had any troubles with the game.  If that's something which worries you though, Claptrap promises it's changed (http://www.borderlands2.com/loveletter/).

My opinion remains shooters are better on a PC.  Plus Steam.  (I may have a spare slot in a 4-pack, but I'm waiting for my friend to decide if she likes the first one enough to go in on this.)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Engels on August 23, 2012, 10:19:29 AM
Can you hook up your laptop to the TV? If so, and you aren't hosing your game performance, I'd get the PC version. Otherwise, with a visually cool game like Borderlands, I'd probably go with the PS3. I know, I'm going straight to hell for saying that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on August 23, 2012, 10:58:20 AM
k.  I've never used a gamepad (at least not that I can remember) with a pc.  Would that make it better or worse?  And if better, what sort should I buy.  Geez.  You'd think I'm new at this gaming stuff, wouldn't you?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Arinon on August 23, 2012, 11:08:31 AM
I just started using a gamepad on my PC a few months ago.  You can use a PS3 controller if you futz around enough with software but it's a pain.  A vanilla, wired, XBox 360 controller has worked great with whatever I've tried.  I think people are crazy using one for shooters over m+kb but different strokes I guess.  Works great for games like Amalur and Darksiders though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on August 23, 2012, 11:15:17 AM
I broke my arm last year (knee this year!  ;p) and m&kb get painful after a while.  Hoping to go back and forth until more physical therapy kicks in. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on August 23, 2012, 11:23:48 AM
I broke my arm last year (knee this year!  ;p) and m&kb get painful after a while.  Hoping to go back and forth until more physical therapy kicks in. 

I think you are gaming too hard. Perhaps try clicking easier?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on August 23, 2012, 11:29:33 AM
Too much skateboarding clearly.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on August 23, 2012, 11:47:08 AM
Given that maybe the PS3 is a better option.  Or short play sessions on the PC.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on August 23, 2012, 11:53:36 AM
The big plusses for Borderlands on PC would be you can mod it if need be, and I'd guess that is where most f13 people will get it (not sure if you give a shit about multiplayer or not.)

From my own shoulder injury history I would say that a gamepad was definitely much easier to use for long sessions while I was recovering, not sure exactly how/if that will translate to broken arm problems.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on August 23, 2012, 12:14:27 PM
Broke my shoulder at the same time.  I no longer do really long gaming sessions.  An hour and I need a nap.  Or, at least, my arm needs a nap.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Minvaren on August 25, 2012, 06:02:34 AM
Rock Band Blitz is releasing on Tuesday.  Peeking at the gameplay, looks like Harmonix is heading back to their Frequency roots.

For most people, I imagine it will end up being a track pack for RB3.  For me, it should help tide me over until the updated Rocksmith releases in October.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 26, 2012, 08:05:31 AM
I'll be getting Borderlands 2 on 360 because my crew has 360s, and playing it solo < playing it with assholes that drive you off of cliffs and open menus when you try to fast travel.  Well, we think it's funny.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on August 30, 2012, 06:45:41 PM
So, it looks like Gotham City Impostors has gone F2P.  If you're not familiar with the title, visit Steam, (http://store.steampowered.com/) and hit the little tick box next to "show downloadable content" and you should get an idea of what the game's about.

The original launch was apparently saddled with GFWL, but the devs have fixed that, and the re-release uses Steamworks.  One small problem: anyone who bought the original game or any DLC now cannot use it and has to re-purchase it.  Considering that the original game was something like $15 with somewhere in the area of $35 of launch day DLC, this is causing some frustration.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on August 30, 2012, 08:42:11 PM
One small problem: anyone who bought the original game or any DLC now cannot use it and has to re-purchase it.  Considering that the original game was something like $15 with somewhere in the area of $35 of launch day DLC, this is causing some frustration.

Considering how much of a clusterfuck the original release was on all platforms, I am not shocked in the slightest that this isn't going smoothly.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on August 31, 2012, 05:13:38 AM
I'm so happy I have a ferret.  I've always wanted a ferret.  Well, I don't have one myself but my lady knight, Hank, has one.  His name is Dave.  I wonder if I'll be able to transfer him to Torchlight 2.  I've become very attached to him.

Isn't there to be some sort of Torchlight 2 announcement today?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 31, 2012, 05:47:51 AM
So, it looks like Gotham City Impostors has gone F2P.
The original launch was apparently saddled with GFWL,

It was also saddled with lots of suck.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on September 04, 2012, 04:18:56 PM
So yeah, here's a rough idea of how well F2P Gotham City Imposters is going:

If Steam's friends list goes down - as it's known do to at least a couple times per day - everybody in-game gets disconnected. No XP earned.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: murdoc on September 06, 2012, 06:54:58 AM
Not sure where to put this, as I don't think it quite deserves it's own thread - but you can get Tecmo Super Bowl 2013 (http://tecmobowl.org/_/tecmo-news/yearly-tecmo-releases/tecmobowlorg-presents-tecmo-super-bowl-2013-r110) for free. All 32 teams with current players and stats, playable on a NES emulator.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on September 06, 2012, 09:42:39 AM
So yeah, in case you were still looking for reasons not to give Stardock your money:

http://kotaku.com/5940401/pc-gaming-studio-said-she-ruined-their-game-but-only-after-she-sued-the-boss-for-sexual-harassment

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I'm not some manager or coworker of yours. I own the company. It, and your job there, exist to suit my purposes, not vice versa. The company is not an end unto itself, it is a means to an end which is to further the objectives of its shareholders (in this case, me).

 :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on September 06, 2012, 10:57:12 AM
"Purity tests" for female employees? Whatta perv.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 06, 2012, 11:30:10 AM
Brad always struck me as broken for whatever reason, but from now on I'm simply going to go on first instinct when gaming companies get weird.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: bhodi on September 06, 2012, 11:38:07 AM
Yep. That's a lawsuit!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: bhodi on September 06, 2012, 11:45:28 AM
Wow, he went over to quarter to three to discuss the article while BOTH COURT CASES ARE ONGOING!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on September 06, 2012, 11:49:53 AM
Yeah it is pretty amazing. I think he's gunning for Dr. Smart's world championship belt.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on September 06, 2012, 11:59:05 AM
The sun rises, the sun sets, the leaves turn, the seasons change, and Brad Wardell is an enormous asshole.

The cycles of the world remain as they always were.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on September 06, 2012, 12:53:27 PM
I especially loved the part where he said he wouldn't stop making sexist inappropriate jokes because he was a sexist inappropriate person, so deal with it or quit. :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on September 06, 2012, 01:06:46 PM
And he's gone on elsewhere to say that it nothing about this constituted a hostile work environment, when it actually pretty much defines it.  :headscratch:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sjofn on September 06, 2012, 01:24:40 PM
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In May 2010, during a dinner on a media tour, Wardell touched Miseta's hair.

That cracks me up as the "last straw" for her, because I can completely sympathize. Creepy fucks love touching hair.


EDIT: Also, purity tests? What is he, fourteen?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: kildorn on September 06, 2012, 01:54:39 PM
So his defense is that they moved the case to federal court? Is that backed up in any records? Because it's pretty much the definition of retaliatory if he waited all this time to file a lawsuit over destruction of work assets.

That said: she seems to have a pretty well documented and clean case of harassment. Way to go, douchebag boss!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on September 06, 2012, 01:59:14 PM
So yeah, in case you were still looking for reasons not to give Stardock your money:

http://kotaku.com/5940401/pc-gaming-studio-said-she-ruined-their-game-but-only-after-she-sued-the-boss-for-sexual-harassment

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I'm not some manager or coworker of yours. I own the company. It, and your job there, exist to suit my purposes, not vice versa. The company is not an end unto itself, it is a means to an end which is to further the objectives of its shareholders (in this case, me).

 :ye_gods:

Holy God, so full of Serek Dmart style awesomeness. Some of these fucktards actually cannot function in the real business world. Manbabies with ownership titles. To go on QT3 to respond to an article is just  :ye_gods:

The whole "deleted marketing materials" thing and how that affected the game? It would have FUCKALL to do with the game being a piece of shit. No one is going to be looking at the marketing materials while trying to create levels and shit. What a fucking asshole.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 06, 2012, 02:11:20 PM
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Wow, he went over to quarter to three to discuss the article while BOTH COURT CASES ARE ONGOING!

That would be because he's one of the dumbest people alive.

Edit: Can someone screenshot the entire relevant Q23 thread?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on September 06, 2012, 02:23:11 PM
I guarantee you that there are probably 20 people from Lum's forum doing just that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 06, 2012, 02:33:24 PM
Ok?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on September 06, 2012, 02:37:27 PM
Well, assuming your concern is that it all will suddenly vanish, if it does, I'm sure one of them will post it somewhere.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mosesandstick on September 06, 2012, 02:54:07 PM
Read what I think is Brad's lawyers' defence in the sexual harassment case: http://www.scribd.com/doc/105112455/Def-s-Mtn-for-SD

Looks messy. Basically paints a picture that the office was full of casual flirting, relaxed behaviour, etc. and the lady was fully aware and part of it.

I'd hope that the purity test and Brad's e-mails still bring him down.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on September 06, 2012, 03:02:56 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/xdwcR.jpg)

:grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on September 06, 2012, 03:17:55 PM
Yeah, fucking brilliant. Hey, if you win over a couple of basement-dwelling shitbags off on some gaming forum, I'm sure that's going to keep your street cred as...as...a douchebag who makes computer games? Good job Brad: if you're going to "try the case in the media", maybe try some media that actually matter? Of course this is harder to do when the defense of "your case" is "I have the right  to be a sexist douchebag who harasses women because that's just how I roll, and it's my company". 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on September 06, 2012, 03:33:11 PM
Well, assuming your concern is that it all will suddenly vanish, if it does, I'm sure one of them will post it somewhere.

I think his concern is he was banned at Q23 and can't read it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: proudft on September 06, 2012, 03:33:52 PM
Anyone need a job? (No fatties!)

(http://i.imgur.com/qmmyz.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on September 06, 2012, 03:34:21 PM
This keeps getting better, now Stephen Totilo, Editor-in-Chief, Kotaku.com posted on the Quarter-to-3 forum rebutting Wardells allegation that Kotaku wouldn't run his response:

(http://i.imgur.com/I0Igk.png)

Full post here (http://www.quartertothree.com/game-talk/showpost.php?p=3211638&postcount=357)

Edit: @proudft: Is 'not pretty but very ambitious' guy-speak for 'will give head'?  :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on September 06, 2012, 03:39:15 PM
Didn't Wardell post here once upon a time? I recall seeing that same self-entitled buisnessman puffery before.

Or was that just Zepp? I forget.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on September 06, 2012, 03:41:21 PM
Maybe the 'not very pretty' thing was just a result of raised expectations after he misheard her last name as in-a-thong.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Segoris on September 06, 2012, 03:50:14 PM
Good god that thread is a beautiful train wreck :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on September 06, 2012, 03:53:36 PM
Maybe the 'not very pretty' thing was just a result of raised expectations after he misheard her last name as in-a-thong.

What was the job in question that she was interviewing for?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on September 06, 2012, 04:20:31 PM
Given the content of his emails, I believe the jobs pretty much all boil down to "Brad Wardell's bitch."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: kildorn on September 06, 2012, 04:36:09 PM
I love that his defense is essentially "we didn't harass HER, we harassed EVERYONE. See? Equality! Not guilty!"


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sjofn on September 06, 2012, 04:41:48 PM
It's like he's the "DO NOT DO THIS" portion of the sexual harrassment video people have to watch.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: kildorn on September 06, 2012, 04:43:19 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/zmy9s.jpg)

Because fucking LOL at this being an obviously frivolous sexual harassment lawsuit. The dude in email admits to pretty much everything she's claiming. His defense includes the phrase "she was known as a 'party girl'"


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on September 06, 2012, 04:44:52 PM
Edit: @proudft: Is 'not pretty but very ambitious' guy-speak for 'will give head'?  :ye_gods:

Don't let Trippy catch that @.   :ye_gods:

And yah, "very ambitious" reads like "DTF" given what we know of the man. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sjofn on September 06, 2012, 04:45:58 PM
Seriously, touch a woman's hair, you are immediately and forever a creep and should be shunned by all right thinking people.


(The obvious exception is if you are dating/married to/fucking/all of the above said woman. And even then, don't do it at work, for God's sake.)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Llyse on September 06, 2012, 05:19:20 PM
He spelt discretely instead of discreetly.

Hang him

 :mob: :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on September 06, 2012, 06:03:29 PM
He's said this sort of thing before in all sorts of places except not about harassment: that an entire company exists entirely for his pleasure and that if it stop pleasing him, it should cease to exist. Sure makes me want to spend money on a game where I expect that there might be some commitment to product beyond an asshole getting his rocks off.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Selby on September 06, 2012, 07:12:58 PM
Seriously, touch a woman's hair, you are immediately and forever a creep and should be shunned by all right thinking people.
Very true.  I've even had random strangers at bars come up to me and start stroking mine (who then proceed to get offended that I tell them to stop or won't give them the time of day).  No one with short hair understands just how creepy it is.

Game developers who are assholes?  Always a good story...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on September 06, 2012, 08:33:53 PM
He's said this sort of thing before in all sorts of places except not about harassment: that an entire company exists entirely for his pleasure and that if it stop pleasing him, it should cease to exist. Sure makes me want to spend money on a game where I expect that there might be some commitment to product beyond an asshole getting his rocks off.

Yeah that's the part that fucking hacks me off.  Harassment isn't acceptable but I can fathom the mindset behind it from douchebags.  People who think they're smoother than they are, or that the harasee really DOES love it.  Some people really are that oblivious and I get that.

The whole, "Hey, let me get away with whatever I want because you're my slaves and if you don't you'll be unemployed" thing?  What the fuck.  Get that guy some lithium because the sociopathy to pull that kind of passive-aggressive craziness needs serious help.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maledict on September 07, 2012, 12:01:51 AM
I love how his email to HR ends with a rant about his rights and that he would shut down the entire company if they were in any way restricted. It's such a laughably stereotypical right wing nut response, and totally out of place in the email but by god he has to make his point!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on September 07, 2012, 05:10:13 AM
If you read the Qt3 thread, you get the extra plus of finding out that the HR head is his sister-in-law. I think Brad and Curt Schilling should get together, they can be the corporate equivalent of Team Rocket.

Some fascinating bits in the ongoing carwreck:

a) Brad Wardell thinks that his counter-filing is independent evidence of what really happened rather than a document prepared by his lawyers trying to put the best possible face on this. (Good luck to them on that score.)
b) He really doesn't get the "hostile environment" concept. In particular, he thinks that if you don't say or do something to someone directly, it's never actionable. I have to think his lawyers have tried to get him to understand otherwise. If you sit around talking with other workers about the breasts of an employee who is not present, for example, that's a textbook example of hostile environment--if the person in question ever finds out about it. (which they almost certainly will if you do that a lot)
c) He keeps falling back on the "she never said anything about this until that email, and everyone else here loves getting sent purity tests and being asked about their bra sizes and doing that Robot Chicken stuff", even as a Qt3 poster quotes bits of the depositions to him that have employees verifying that this woman and others were often upset at his behavior and said so to colleagues.
d) He doesn't seem to have even the slightest awareness of why "I can do whatever the fuck I want with this company, shut it down if I feel like it on a whim" is a devastating thing to have made public regardless of the harassment case--both for how it affects Stardock's already iffy relationship to consumers and for retention of other talent. Would I be looking for another job if I worked at Stardock even if I liked all the Robot Chicken jokes and taking purity tests and think it's ok if my boss fondles the hair of female employees and tell them their nipples would look great in PR presentations? Yes, I think so--generally when the boss says, "This company is subject to any whim I have and maybe I'll just take my toys and go home, so there?" that company is not very secure for the future.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on September 07, 2012, 05:28:15 AM
That whole purity test thing is a anti-riot!  They weren't funny when they first showed up eleventy billion years ago.  Anyway, I always get the answers wrong so purity tests can foad.  Same with that scrotally challenged Brad whastisthingyname douche.  He seems to be a sub-human Klein bottle filled with smeggy cheese.  I hates him and his nasty gameses, whatever they are.

Did that make sense?  I'm having a day.   :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Segoris on September 07, 2012, 07:33:16 AM
So supposedly there was more to Brad's email response, bolded below the part that was originally left out. It's like he's so close to understanding but then stays on his high horse.

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Hi Alexandra,
 
Thank you for bringing these up to me as I certainly do not want you to feel uncomfortable at work.
 
I don't recall item #1 but will certainly endeavor to be extra careful.
 
I understand #2. I will be more conscious of this in the future.
 
#3, however is not acceptable to me. I am an inappropriate, sexist, vulgar, and embarrassing person and I'm not inclined to change my behavior. If this is a problem, you will need to find another job.
 
#4, Again, I am not willing to adapt my behavior to suit others. IF you find my behavior problematic, I recommend finding another job.
 
I'm not some manager or coworker of yours. I own the company. It, and your job here, exist to suit my purposes, not vice versa. The company is not an end unto itself, it is a means to an end which is to further the objectives of its shareholders (in this case, me).
 
While I certainly agree that your rights as a person (certainly in terms of physical contact or interms of comments made towards you regarding your private live) take precedence over my rights as the owner of the business, that is as far as it goes.
 
I sincerely apologize for offending you while on our trip. I certainly would never intentionally try to upset you or make you uncomfortable and will endeavor to avoid doing so in the future. However, I won't change my basic personality to suit anyone (i.e. being an inappropriate, sexist, vulgar and embarrassing person).
 
Kind regards,
 
Brad


Also - should this topic be split to it's own thread?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on September 07, 2012, 01:39:11 PM
Hey, did we ever find out what company Sand(/whatever his old name) was actually ran?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on September 07, 2012, 01:46:57 PM
http://www.questoutdoors.com/

This place, I believe.  I recognize the canoe pick from my Facebook feed.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on September 08, 2012, 08:39:08 PM
Some indie game dev is advertising his own game by giving it away for free on thepiratebay. Here's a link (http://mcpixel.net/) to the game's site, and the front page of TPB has an image advertising it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on September 09, 2012, 12:07:00 PM
Oh, McPixel.  Bleh.

Yeah, this seems to be the new thing since Notch made that tweet in January about how piracy is basically free publicity for indies.  I dunno how well it carries over to studios which are smaller than Mojang (i.e. everybody else) and especially McPixel (which is the definition of a bite sized game), but they've been flying since they got featured on Giant Bomb, so whatever.  It's currently on Greenlight if you want to see it on Steam.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on September 11, 2012, 07:12:57 AM
This is just in: ArmA Devs are also spies for evil governments that want to bomb Greece:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-09-11-arma-dev-confirms-staff-arrested-accused-of-spying-by-greek-authorities





Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on September 12, 2012, 01:57:51 AM
This is just in: ArmA Devs are also spies for evil governments that want to bomb Greece:

Now that's a very sensationislt way to put it!   :grin:

According to the greek article linked as source they were arrested and pictures of the military base where found on their cameras and camcorders.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Amaron on September 12, 2012, 11:55:39 AM
This is just in: ArmA Devs are also spies for evil governments that want to bomb Greece:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-09-11-arma-dev-confirms-staff-arrested-accused-of-spying-by-greek-authorities

It would be nice to see the Streisand effect take off here.   Greek military base mods for Day Z all around.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on September 13, 2012, 11:56:52 AM
Wii U's launch date confirmed as Nov. 18 in US, Nov. 30th in Europe, Dec. 8th in Japan. Two models coming out: an 8g for $299 and a 32g for $349. Still no firm list of launch titles yet.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 13, 2012, 12:00:14 PM
I totally can't wait to never even use one.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on September 13, 2012, 12:06:46 PM
^ This. ^


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on September 13, 2012, 12:08:53 PM
Wii U's launch date confirmed as Nov. 18 in US, Nov. 30th in Europe, Dec. 8th in Japan. Two models coming out: an 8g for $299 and a 32g for $349. Still no firm list of launch titles yet.

For what it's worth, launch titles, all out by December 8th:

Nintendo Land

New Super Mario Bros. U

Tekken Tag Tournament 2: Wii U Edition

Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate

Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor’s Edge

Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper

Assassin’s Creed III

Zombie U

Batman: Arkham City Armored Edition


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 13, 2012, 12:10:01 PM
Oh man, now I'm totally still not giving a shit. Whoooo!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on September 13, 2012, 12:31:57 PM
Maybe I just don't travel in the right circles anymore, but the fact that the Wii U is coming out in 2 months and I had no idea blows me away.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on September 13, 2012, 12:44:03 PM
Well the date and price was only just announced today, so.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on September 13, 2012, 01:46:48 PM
Well the date and price was only just announced today, so.

Right, but I had like, no concept that it was even going to be out this year.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goreschach on September 13, 2012, 01:50:01 PM
Wii U's launch date confirmed as Nov. 18 in US, Nov. 30th in Europe, Dec. 8th in Japan. Two models coming out: an 8g for $299 and a 32g for $349. Still no firm list of launch titles yet.

Well, consoles have patches and copy protection now. Might as well start selling them at different performance specs to complete the shit-trifecta.

It's almost like while pc gaming was becoming consolized, console gaming decided to steal all the shitty parts from pc gaming to level the playing field.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on September 13, 2012, 01:59:25 PM
Capacity upgrades and a terrible launch title list. Woo woo.  :roll:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 13, 2012, 02:02:59 PM
Capacity upgrades and a terrible launch title list. Woo woo.  :roll:
It's the Microsoft 3Shitty.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Salamok on September 13, 2012, 02:14:49 PM
The shit hawks are circling, this platform is gonna be a hit!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on September 13, 2012, 02:25:21 PM
Hit or not, it'll still suck. 

edit: Seriously, that's just a really unappealing launch title list (although I have no idea what Nintendo Land is).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Amaron on September 13, 2012, 05:47:15 PM
1GB of ram for games is just hilarious.  It's like a mustang with a 1 gallon tank.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 14, 2012, 01:27:30 AM
1 GB of RAM is double what the Xbox 360 and PS3 have.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: lamaros on September 14, 2012, 03:51:40 AM
Lots of RPGs on sale on GoG.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on September 14, 2012, 10:52:58 AM
Lots of RPGs on sale on GoG.

The BG Enhanced edition is supposed to launch on Monday Tuesday.

http://baldursgate.com/index.en.html


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Amaron on September 14, 2012, 11:48:49 AM
1 GB of RAM is double what the Xbox 360 and PS3 have.

Exactly.  The 360 and PS3 suffer from this heavily.  They're completely bottleknecked on visual quality due to the memory issue.  Now the Wii U comes out with 3x the video processing power but they're going to feed it with 1 gig?  That's insanity.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on September 14, 2012, 03:37:59 PM
Lots of RPGs on sale on GoG.

The BG Enhanced edition is supposed to launch on Monday Tuesday.

http://baldursgate.com/index.en.html

Aaaaaand...  I spoke to soon.

Delayed to Nov 30. 

http://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/4796/ship-date-delay


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on September 14, 2012, 04:00:46 PM
So, for a CRPG "blast from the past", (both in the form of personalities and design approach, this one at least in theory :P) now we have:

- Baldur's Gate EE
- Brian Fargo's Wasteland sequel
- Obsidian's Project Eternity
- Divinity: Original Sin
- Age of Decadence

To that, you can also add graphic adventures, with:

- Ron Gilbert's The Cave
- Tim Schafer's Adventure (Double Fine)
- Jane Jensen's (Gabriel Knight) new adventure

And finally Chris "I'm back in the cockpit" Roberts.


Now, where are Geoff Crammond, David Braben and Doug Church ?  :grin:

Old guys well past their prime, or back "to show how it's done"?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on September 14, 2012, 04:39:09 PM
1 GB of RAM is double what the Xbox 360 and PS3 have.

Exactly.  The 360 and PS3 suffer from this heavily.  They're completely bottleknecked on visual quality due to the memory issue.  Now the Wii U comes out with 3x the video processing power but they're going to feed it with 1 gig?  That's insanity.

I don't understand the reasoning.  I just bought a cheap-ass laptop (under $300) to use as a netbook, and it has 4GB of RAM with room to double it.

Even if none of your launch titles need more than 1G, or even half of that, why not slap a little more in there so you'll have room to grow with future titles?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Minvaren on September 14, 2012, 05:10:00 PM
Because it raises the per-unit cost by $20...   :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 14, 2012, 05:31:42 PM
Which matters to Nintendo cause they try and make money off the hardware from the the start, unlike Microsoft and Sony.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Amaron on September 14, 2012, 06:24:03 PM
Which matters to Nintendo cause they try and make money off the hardware from the the start, unlike Microsoft and Sony.

That's true but there are more logical places to cut costs.  The box needs less horsepower and more memory plain and simple.  Add 2 gigs and take out twice the cost in horsepower.   The whole box would be cheaper and produce higher quality visuals.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on September 14, 2012, 08:49:36 PM
It probably doesn't need more memory. A console doesn't have nearly the memory overhead that a box running a consumer OS does. The processor probably is a lot more bang for the buck than added memory in that kind of configuration, I suspect.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on September 16, 2012, 09:18:50 PM
You can try to argue for roomy hardware with Nintendo, but they have decades of empirical evidence that debunks your theories.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on September 24, 2012, 02:26:29 PM
Oooooooh  :Love_Letters: :Love_Letters: :Love_Letters: :Love_Letters:

http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/09/24/beneath-a-steel-sky-2-confirmed/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on September 24, 2012, 03:43:09 PM
Well that's certainly unexpected.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on October 03, 2012, 02:43:20 PM
Speaking of unexpected:

http://epicgames.com/community/2012/10/cliff-bleszinski-departs-epic/

Quote
Today we are saying farewell with warm regards to Cliff Bleszinski, who is departing as Epic’s design director to chart the next stage of his career. During the past two decades, Cliff has helped shape many successful games that have captured the imaginations of millions of players around the world. We are grateful for his influence on Epic’s legacy, from the wild adventures “Jazz Jackrabbit” to the visceral combat of “Gears of War.”

From my understanding, Cliffy B was one of the few people behind a lot of Epic's successes in the past 15 or so years. It's kind of shocking.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: NiX on October 03, 2012, 03:42:25 PM
it's not so shocking if you look back on some of the things hes said over the past few years.

What he does next will surprise anyone. Unless he goes to work at 343 or Activision.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Outlawedprod on October 17, 2012, 03:51:59 PM
https://twitter.com/georgeb3dr/status/258695362620043264
Quote
Good luck to my buddies at LightBox in Austin. Layoffs and rumors of near whole studio gone by Friday :(


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 18, 2012, 07:56:41 AM
They are directly above the Zynga Austin studio here. Literally, if you could bore through the ceiling, you'd end up in their office.

I don't actually think they released a game, but they did work on a couple.

Studios will never survive if they don't, you know, make something.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ard on October 18, 2012, 08:46:55 AM
They released Starhawk a few months back.  I've got a friend there, and that always makes it unhappy times.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on October 20, 2012, 06:17:00 PM
So. I kind of assumed this Sniper Elite games were junk, but this looks pretty damn awesome:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=81527117


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Outlawedprod on October 23, 2012, 12:57:06 PM
http://gamasutra.com/view/news/180005/Breaking_Mass_layoffs_closures_at_Zynga.php


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on October 23, 2012, 01:02:36 PM
They have to find the giant chunk of change they're going to have to pay EA somewhere.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 23, 2012, 01:04:09 PM
EA: They don't even have to buy you to destroy you.

I got a chuckle out of a tv ad for the board version of 'Words with Friends'. Didn't we already have that? Lolvertising.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on October 23, 2012, 01:13:27 PM
Zynga brought it on themselves by basically exactly cloning EA's Sims Facebook game.

EDIT: And if you were trying to read the tea leaves about said lawsuit from this event, it does look like the team that created the game that spawned the lawsuit (The Ville) is among the casualties.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 23, 2012, 02:37:08 PM
I don't mind speculation elsewhere. But let's operate under the assumption I know every single thing about this, the history of all their studios, the management involved, and the game. And god-willing, one day I'll be able to tell that story.

In other words: Shit happens, get a helmet. We can talk about this another day.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 23, 2012, 08:23:33 PM
Breaking news: Eric Schild destroyed Zynga.

 :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Outlawedprod on October 26, 2012, 08:52:33 PM
http://kotaku.com/5955223/what-went-wrong-with-silicon-knights-x+men-destiny


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on November 06, 2012, 07:35:47 AM
I bought Okami HD on PSN to show my kid.  It looks gorgeous, but it has been freezing up on her after 10-30 minutes of play.  It appears to hard-lock the PS3. 

I've never seen this before with any other game on my PS3, I can't personally reproduce the error by playing myself, and I can't find mention of the issue anywhere else online.  WTF?  I'm guessing backup the saves and uninstall/reinstall to see if it helps?

Anyone else have their technology just work most of the time, yet everyone around them it always breaks?  Frustrating as hell.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on November 06, 2012, 09:10:25 AM
Yes, my PC works great and everyone else's is shitty.  For no discernable reason.  Except, of course, that I don't let them use it. :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on November 09, 2012, 01:22:51 PM
http://kotaku.com/5955223/what-went-wrong-with-silicon-knights-x+men-destiny

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/11/09/silicon-knights-v-epic-games-judgment/

It keeps rolling...

Quote
Silicon Knights is being ordered by the US court to recall and destroy all unsold copies of games using Unreal Engine 3, including Too Human and X-Men: Destiny. The new ruling on post-trial motions for the case between Silicon Knights and Epic Games also saw Epic's jury award upped from $4.5 million to over $9 million.

The ruling, dated November 7, also orders Silicon Knights to cease using Epic Games's "Licensed Technology" and remove it from the company's game engine. Furthermore, Silicon Knights has until December 10 to destroy any code built using Epic's technology; the court order includes Too Human, X-Men: Destiny, Siren in the Maelstrom, The Sandman, and The Box/Ritualyst. Silicon Knights must notify the court by December 21 and again on February 21, 2013, concerning all injunctions ordered, and they are to be carried out at the company's expense.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on November 09, 2012, 01:32:34 PM
Sweet, my copy of Too Human will be a priceless rarity one day!  :drill:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on November 16, 2012, 07:53:57 AM
PS Vita or 3DS XL?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on November 16, 2012, 10:07:03 AM
What sort of games are you into? The Vita is the more powerful system, intended to be a sort of portable PS3. The 3DS has Nintendo's standard fare so if you're a huge Mario fan go with the 3DS; also if you don't already have a DS the 3DS is backwards compatible and there are a ton of great DS games. Neither of them have a very big library yet, so I'd browse a list of games for either and see which has more exclusives you're into.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on November 16, 2012, 11:38:30 AM
An ipad. Portable systems are shit these days. Vita has Uncharted though. Shame it never got Demon's Souls.

I got a 3DS for free at a Christmas party, and it wasn't worth the price tag.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on November 16, 2012, 12:09:04 PM
PS Vita or 3DS XL?
3DS XL.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on November 16, 2012, 12:24:51 PM

I agree, particularly with the young kid.  They enjoy the Nintendo games more than the full console games.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on November 16, 2012, 12:54:11 PM
Oh, the boy has a 3DS already.  I meant for me.  I also already have a DS Lite.  I appreciate the GBA slot but frankly I haven't used it in ages.  I'm hanging onto that just in case I end up out of work and decide to play all the Pokemon games in order. :oh_i_see:

Trouble is that I haven't been able to monitor Games for about a year, so I don't know what's on each.  The new Ratchet and Clank is the only reason I even considered a Vita, so besides that and Uncharted I have no idea if it's the game-title wasteland that the PS3 was on launch.  On the other hand, I know that there is a digital-fuck-ton of stuff in the Nintendo Store for 3DS.  The 3DS XL looks like a nice upgrade but since I really only play Pokemon Soul Silver anymore, I'm not convinced.  As for PSP, I'm pretty much only playing Monster Hunter, and I haven't had much opportunity for that.

I might have added "or Wii U" on the end of that.  I only realized yesterday that the Wii U was an actual new console; before this I thought it was just a new awkward controller.  I just need to find out if it supports GC games.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on November 16, 2012, 01:01:31 PM
The Vita is having a poorly-advertised one-day-only sale on Black Friday if you're truly in the market for a practically-dead system.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/11/16/exclusive-black-friday-deals-for-ps3-and-ps-vita/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on November 16, 2012, 01:02:39 PM
if you're truly in the market for a practically-dead system.

Heh, that's why I'm pondering this aloud on F13.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on November 16, 2012, 01:11:30 PM
Found danger immediately.  I need someone to convince me to not spend money on this:
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/85916/persona4golden_vita_skin.png)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on November 16, 2012, 01:16:13 PM
I can't convince you because I want one now and will find a way even with no money.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on November 16, 2012, 01:19:46 PM
Well, fuck. :awesome_for_real:

Looks like Vita will play these fucking PSOne games I seem to like, also.

I'm sure my wife can talk sense into me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on November 16, 2012, 10:31:33 PM
Yea, Persona 4 Golden is one of two reasons why I bought a Vita (Disgaea 3 being the other); that's not a special edition Vita though, just one with the P4G: Solid Gold edition special skin/wallpaper. You can play some PSX games on it, and most PSP games, if you download them from the PSN. I'm honestly pretty happy with my Vita (I play it way more than my 3DS) particularly for a system that hasn't yet been out a year.

Also the Wii U is probably not GC-backwards compatible, considering the current model Wii doesn't play GC anymore.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on November 16, 2012, 10:57:01 PM
Found danger immediately.  I need someone to convince me to not spend money on this:
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/85916/persona4golden_vita_skin.png)
Cause those stickers (and case) are really expensive?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on November 17, 2012, 12:21:05 AM
The Vita has confused me. There's a 3G version out there - so it's a phone too? But most of the new systems I'm seeing are Wifi with no mention of 3G. So you Wifi to connect to the Internet/PSN?

I have been damn tempted by the fact there are Persona games on the system.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on November 17, 2012, 12:26:30 AM
No it's not a phone, the cellular connection is data-only, like how the iPad cellular versions work.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on November 17, 2012, 12:08:35 PM
You can't even play games online over the 3G (since 3G is slow as shit) so it's only real purpose is to allow web browsing on the go.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on November 18, 2012, 12:48:49 PM
What is this thing?
http://www.ouya.tv/

Add: Determined that Tactics Ogre will run on Vita, so I'm wondering if I can transfer my save.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on November 18, 2012, 01:02:58 PM
What is this thing?
http://www.ouya.tv/
The most hyped Kickstarter project of all time? :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on November 18, 2012, 03:31:46 PM
Yea, it's possible to transfer saves to the Vita from the PSP.
http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/52313/how-can-i-move-my-psp-game-saves-onto-my-ps-vita


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on November 18, 2012, 06:24:51 PM
I only link to NeoGaf because it's sorta funny.

Someone gets access to WiiU online admin access/areas entirely by accident. (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=500411)

Just read the first post. It is NeoGaf after all, so the rest of the topic is pretty much completely godawful gif-spam and white noise posting.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on November 24, 2012, 01:03:01 PM
Rab Florence wrote an angry blog post about rich & influential industry figures starting Kickstarters:

http://effingarcade.tumblr.com/post/36277287313/molyneux-and-fucking-kickstarter

He's got a point there, at some point it's all just a glorified preorder where the packaging is used to make people think they're special. Also it's a nice way to manage financial risk, having an army of not rich people take the potential fall.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on November 24, 2012, 08:08:36 PM
Isn't that what Kickstarter recently kinda came down on? Unfortunately I think that might apply to physical products only.

I'd say a lot of the old-timey game devs that came out of the woodwork to discover Kickstarter in the wake of the insane DoubleFine/Wasteland 2 ventures actually needed Kickstarter to get a product made (I could literally see Rob Lowe getting Al Bundy'd out the door of a publisher trying to sell another Leisure Suit Larry game after what happened with the last few), but fucking Molyneux?

Penny Arcade's Kickstarter was the first one that really fucking annoyed me. You dickslaps make probably a quarter to a half a mill a fucking month and run the conventions that make E3 seem quaint. You're literally shopping scripts to a kids CG movie that I think might've been greenlit and you're asking for a million fucking dollars to get rid of ADS?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on November 24, 2012, 09:29:00 PM
Who'd give Molyneaux money at this point?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Xanthippe on November 26, 2012, 08:08:38 AM
Who'd give Molyneaux money at this point?

Yep. It's like giving money to Romero. (Oh look, his Kickstarter was canceled, what a surprise).

But I don't get the rage here. Kickstarter isn't specially limited to only unknown or little people doing what they love; anyone can do it.

What's the problem with people who voluntarily want to throw their money at Molyneaux? I wouldn't do it, but I don't care if other people do. Nobody has to contribute to any Kickstarter. Sure, Molyneaux can come up with financing but maybe he doesn't want to have to be answerable to his investors.

People do all sorts of silly things. Do we need Rab Florence to protect us from ourselves in his self-righteous rage?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on November 26, 2012, 09:06:44 AM
Critics are hilarious.

1. For all the Molyneuxs and Romeros and Wing Commanders that build up pre-order/proof of interest for investors, there are thousands of great little projects and companies that get life breathed into them thanks to KS. I count that as a win.

2.
Quote
If people enjoy what you do and have made you in any way relevant in our culture, then YOU owe THEM something.

Go fuck yourself until you create something relevant in our culture. YOU owe ME one minute of my life wasted on stupid, misguided rage.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on November 26, 2012, 09:45:33 AM
...said Sky, wading knee deep in Kickstarter-bought miniatures.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on November 26, 2012, 12:08:30 PM
That's how I know Molyneux isn't 'destroying' the KS ideal.

If Andy Hopp can successfully release post-apocalyptic Twinkie warriors, the dream ain't dead.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Outlawedprod on November 27, 2012, 11:31:29 AM
Japanese game companies are so pro!
http://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/13glp8/sega_starts_quietly_removing_youtube_users_videos/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rattran on November 29, 2012, 09:04:50 AM
http://www.gamershell.com/news_146383.html (http://www.gamershell.com/news_146383.html)

Dragon Age 3, now coming in 2014, for next-nextgen consoles from Bioware MythicEA Shanghai. I'm sure this newslet interests one person here. And likely almost no one else.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on November 29, 2012, 09:05:41 AM
I can think of at least 3.   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on November 29, 2012, 09:14:11 AM
EA Shanghai guy doing some work on it != primary development happening in Shanghai. I know the writing team is basically the same as Origins and 2, so Gaider's group in Edmonton as usual.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on November 29, 2012, 10:02:13 AM
I thought DA3 was primarily being worked on by a team in Montreal, with some supervision from Edmonton?

Or was that Mass Effect 4 I'm thinking of? All these new Bioware RPGs I can't muster any enthusiasm for blend together for me now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on November 29, 2012, 10:09:48 AM
I think that is Mass Effect 4whatever-the-next-game-is, but I don't know for sure where the level and systems design and such for DA3 is happening. The writing team is the part I pay attention to as that's the part I care about most. I suspect they have bits and pieces of stuff farmed out to various studios, pretty sure they were already doing a lot of art in other places already on other games, for example.

We do have a DA3 thread where this could go, by the way!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rattran on November 29, 2012, 10:23:57 AM
But, it's more useless than anything else! Plus, I couldn't find the da3 thread.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sjofn on November 29, 2012, 06:40:40 PM
2014 is so far away.  :heartbreak:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on December 05, 2012, 02:02:06 AM
Somewhat interesting blog post by the writer of Wasteland 2 and Torment: http://colinmccomb.com/?p=157 (http://colinmccomb.com/?p=157)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on December 05, 2012, 03:23:02 PM
More like a writer of Torment, but still interesting.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rattran on December 06, 2012, 09:24:08 AM
http://www.creative-assembly.com/sega-and-creative-assembly-announce-partnership-with-games-workshop-to-create-warhammer-games/ (http://www.creative-assembly.com/sega-and-creative-assembly-announce-partnership-with-games-workshop-to-create-warhammer-games/)

Looks like EA got replaced the Warhammer Fantasy license to Sega/Creative Assembly (The Total War guys) I guess we get more Warhammer themed turd-in-a-box games to look forward to 'after 2013'


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on December 06, 2012, 09:51:45 AM
A Warhammer fantasy game with the Total War battle engine would be the tits.

We'll probably never see that though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on December 06, 2012, 09:56:49 AM
A Warhammer fantasy game with the Total War battle engine would be the tits.

We'll probably never see that though.

Why not? I would play it. I'm a TW Whore though. I'd play pretty much any TW IP. Total War: Wheel of Time? I'd still play it, even though I had to spend a lot of time wandering around the map waiting for something to happen.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on December 06, 2012, 09:59:30 AM
We probably won't see it because Games Workshop has a nasty habit of refusing to just do an digital adaptation of their tabletop games because they think it'll hurt the physical sales. Blood Bowl is a HUGE exception, mainly because Cyanide made a game that was actually a ripoff of Blood Bowl, got sued for infringement and part of the settlement was making Blood Bowl games.

Games Workshop are dicks, in short. And Total War: Warhammer would be too good for them to release.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: kildorn on December 06, 2012, 10:05:52 AM
Total War: Warhammer would totally work, too. The 15 minute load screens will accurately model people taking out the box of minis and setting up the table for a battle!

</stillbitter>


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on December 06, 2012, 10:24:04 AM
Then why sell it to Creative Assembly? The only successful things they've ever done were the Total War games. Have they even done anything else?

<Paelos goes to look at Wiki>

Looks like a crappy hack'n'slash game called Viking:Asgard, which I'd never heard of or played.
Spartan:Total Warrior, which I'd never heard of or played. Also a mediocre action game.
Oh, and a disaster of a game called "Stormrise" which was a console RTS; shockingly it had a shitty interface.

Yep, if they do anything BUT a Total War game, this is stupid.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on December 06, 2012, 10:37:48 AM
2014 is so far away.  :heartbreak:

I know, right??  Why do they do that to us?  They shouldn't announce something we want to play until moments before it's released.  It's cruel and unkind foreplay that only gets the sadistic developer off and leaves us frustrated and depressed.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shannow on December 07, 2012, 09:01:18 PM
EA is having some sort of sale with 40% off everything. Useful for picking up that copy of Fifa 13 for the nephews for Christmas. Cause its EA and evil I won't actually put up a link.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on December 08, 2012, 02:11:10 AM
Total War: Warhammer would totally work, too. The 15 minute load screens will accurately model people taking out the box of minis and setting up the table for a battle!

</stillbitter>

Just give me Dark Omen that's updated to today's (or last 5 years) level of graphics etc and I'd be very happy  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on December 09, 2012, 05:27:33 AM
Dark Souls 2 is coming!

Quote
[Dark Souls II] will be more straightforward and more understandable.

There's already a huge slapfight over it on Neogaf: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=503292


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on December 18, 2012, 09:36:58 AM
So, according to the Maxis dev AMA on Reddit (http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/14umm1/we_are_the_simcity_dev_team_from_maxis_amaa/c7gnxdy), the next Sim City will have always-on DRM like Diablo 3.  Naturally my interest in the game went from 'Day 1!' to 'Fuck this shit'.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on December 18, 2012, 10:39:05 AM
It's also got always-on multiplayer (hence the DRM), because what I always want in a SimCity game is a half-dozen other chucklefucks in surrounding towns fucking around with me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ceryse on December 18, 2012, 11:23:28 AM
Yeah.... no.

Sim City, for me, would be utterly ruined by that kind of forced multiplayer. Thankfully, despite some interest, I'd already written off the possibility of getting it because of, well, Origin.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 18, 2012, 12:07:32 PM
Apparently there's a new Space Hulk video game in the making.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on December 18, 2012, 12:14:51 PM
Apparently there's a new Space Hulk video game in the making.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/12/10/space-hulk-space-hulk-space-hulk-space-hulk/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shannow on December 18, 2012, 12:30:22 PM
spacehulkspacehulkspacehulk? I hope it has gameplay like the original honestly....tactical top down, pause and give orders etc.

I remember that mission where all you had was chain guns , which only got like 10 shots and you had to pick up ammo on the way. twas a hard game. early 1990s ftw!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on December 18, 2012, 12:49:13 PM
It's going to have gameplay like the board game, if there is any good at all in the world.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on December 18, 2012, 02:13:43 PM
EA loses spot on the Nasdaq-100

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/12/17/ea-loses-spot-on-the-nasdaq-100/

Looks like the failure of TOR is hurting pretty bad.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on December 18, 2012, 02:36:20 PM
Why are they putting Facebook in there?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on December 19, 2012, 11:11:15 AM
THQ files for bankruptcy  :uhrr:
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/12/19/thq-bankruptcy-sale/ (http://www.joystiq.com/2012/12/19/thq-bankruptcy-sale/)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on December 19, 2012, 11:42:51 AM
Why are they putting Facebook in there?

Isn't it just based on market cap?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on December 19, 2012, 02:14:47 PM
Why are they putting Facebook in there?

Isn't it just based on market cap?

Probably, but I think the real value of that stock is around 10B. Not 60B. I can't really see how the hell they can maintain a stock price above $10 with a P/E ratio of 254. I mean hell, ATVI has a P/E of 14 and it's getting bad press. I don't understand the market sometimes.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Xanthippe on December 19, 2012, 05:32:27 PM
Brenda Romero (née Braithwaite), game designer for the Wizardry series and author of Sex in Video Games, named first game designer in residence at UC Santa Cruz. (http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/localnews/ci_22218678/brenda-romero-named-first-game-designer-residence-at)

I have nothing to add, having no experience with any game she's worked on.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Zetor on December 19, 2012, 10:09:18 PM
You may also know her as Brenda Garno/Garneau, she was one of the prominent Sir-Tech people. AFAIK she worked on all games in the Wizardry series; started as a writer+tester and ended up as the lead designer on Wizardry 8. She also worked a fair bit on Jagged Alliance 2.

RIP Sir-Tech, btw... still my favorite dev (and sometimes publisher) house to this day.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on December 20, 2012, 10:21:00 AM
Brenda Romero now? Wait, you can't mean...

Quote
Romero is currently married to developer Brenda Brathwaite.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Romero#Personal_life

No accounting for taste I guess!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on December 20, 2012, 11:57:06 AM
Hopefully she made him her bitch.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on December 20, 2012, 01:10:33 PM
Last time I saw Romero he was hanging out with some floozy in Austin. This was 2008 or so. Whatever. They can make mediocre games together.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Gets on January 05, 2013, 04:28:30 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/excavators-head-myanmar-wwii-spitfires-152507234.html

Quote
Along the way he found an unlikely ally, a Belarusian company called Wargaming.net best known for its multiplayer titles including "World of Warplanes" and "World of Tanks." The company's American director of special projects, Tracy Spaight, said he got his company involved after hearing about the Spitfires in the news, promising $500,000 toward the dig and up to another $500,000 if the Spitfires were found.
Company spokesman Frazer Nash batted away repeated questions about what the video game maker in the country known as Europe's last dictatorship hoped to get out of the deal, saying the company had an "open bucket" to dispense cash if the dig was a success.
"Money's not an issue," he told journalists. "Have you seen the profits for gaming?"
The reporters seemed mollified.
"Can I have a job?" one asked.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on January 18, 2013, 10:31:06 PM
So it looks like Gas Powered Games is finally... out of gas.

 :drill:

No, but seriously, Chris Taylor's fired a bunch of people (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/185086/Gas_Powered_Games_forced_into_layoffs_as_cash_runs_low.php#.UPo9QtdRpyU). The company's nearly completely broke and the last-ditch Kitckstarter was looking like a flop.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on January 18, 2013, 10:48:17 PM
That's kind of a shame.  I was just playing SC: FA too.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on January 19, 2013, 06:52:58 AM
For some reason I thought he was working on Planetary Annihilation, but I guess that is another team.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Gets on January 21, 2013, 05:33:18 AM
I'd be upset, but Space Siege and Dungeon Siege 3 were the closest I've come to feeling like someone cheated on me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on January 21, 2013, 11:16:40 PM
I'd be upset, but Space Siege and Dungeon Siege 3 were the closest I've come to feeling like someone cheated on me.

DS3 = Obsidian.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Outlawedprod on January 23, 2013, 11:23:02 AM
So it looks like Gas Powered Games is finally... out of gas.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-01-22-gas-powered-games-had-multiple-projects-canned-last-minute-by-publishers

Quote
You need people to really slam their fist; guys like Steve Jobs, you know, who are a**holes because they believe so vehemently in what they're doing they will f***ing - f*** bending the spoon with their mind, they'll just snatch it out of your hand and bend it in half and stuff it up your ass! Take that! Let's get back to work!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 23, 2013, 02:20:23 PM
God just, who cares.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 24, 2013, 08:27:42 AM
But, you know, Total Annihilation.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on January 24, 2013, 12:23:02 PM
Total Annihilation!   :heart:

Man, all I want is a nicely updated version of that.  Plus an updated Master of Magic.

Edit:  AND A GODDAMN PONY TOO!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on January 24, 2013, 12:27:42 PM
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/82533/headshot.gif)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on January 24, 2013, 01:30:53 PM
That is not on the list.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on February 06, 2013, 07:58:35 AM
Wasn't sure where to put this, but it seems that Games Workshop are trying to stop other people calling things 'Space Marines' (http://boingboing.net/2013/02/06/games-workshop-trademark-bully.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)

 :uhrr:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 06, 2013, 08:00:04 AM
Of course they are.  I'm glad I don't use any of their products or services.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on February 06, 2013, 08:52:38 AM
Games Workshop really ae one big gaggle of dicks.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 06, 2013, 12:20:14 PM
Yes.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fordel on February 06, 2013, 12:39:00 PM
That's not even possible is it? I'm no lawyer man or anything, but don't trademarks needs to be more specific then that?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on February 06, 2013, 12:55:25 PM
This particular case is Games Workshop telling a self publishing author to cease and desist or lawyers will eat her soul.

Given that, it's unlikely she can fight it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on February 06, 2013, 01:40:28 PM
I guess GW needs a new business model since they are top of the 'Companies most likely to be wiped out by the advent of 3D printing' list.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on February 06, 2013, 01:41:22 PM
Actually it's not even that. GW convinced Amazon to pull it even though Amazon didn't have to cause it's not under DMCA (DMCA "safe harbor" is for copyright infringement not trademark infringement).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on February 06, 2013, 02:05:51 PM
What is the diference?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on February 06, 2013, 02:25:04 PM
Hey I know let's consult the author in question.  Oh, she has a legal battle on her hands that she can't afford to fight for a case she'd be able to win if she only had the money, as "prior art" would pretty much be the end of any GW case. (http://mcahogarth.org/?p=10593)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on February 06, 2013, 03:05:52 PM
Interesting, thanks.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bzalthek on February 08, 2013, 04:27:50 AM
Is there a site that shows projected release dates for upcoming games.  I open a thread and get kinda excited then notice it's due out in a year or two.  Then I kick a puppy. 

Like how we have such a feature here at F13 for MMOs.  (The Gaming Graveyard)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 08, 2013, 07:27:48 AM
We don't seem to have time to manage such things.  Even NiX has gotten too busy now that he's in high school.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 08, 2013, 07:42:04 AM
It's just not worth managing such things.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bzalthek on February 08, 2013, 08:21:23 AM
Oh I understand that, I just wondered if there was some site "out there" which might do it.  I'll do some googling when I finish out this week's homework, just wondering if someone else knew off the top of their head.

And wait, NIX is in high school?  wat


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 08, 2013, 08:25:08 AM
He is hoping the mustache will start growing in a couple years.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on February 08, 2013, 11:44:52 AM
Even NiX has gotten too busy now that he's in high school.
Yeg just won the Useless Gaming thread.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 09, 2013, 08:27:35 PM
http://www.tothegame.com/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on February 11, 2013, 03:57:24 PM
Are we not talking about the Feb 20 Sony "change the way you play" announcement?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bzalthek on February 11, 2013, 04:24:02 PM
http://www.tothegame.com/

You are an incredible manbeast Sky.  I don't care what everyone else says about you.  Thank you sir!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 11, 2013, 06:39:35 PM
No, that's pretty much what they all say.

I was surprised to see that site still live, I used it over ten years ago pretty regularly.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on February 11, 2013, 07:38:09 PM
Are we not talking about the Feb 20 Sony "change the way you play" announcement?

Everyone thinks it'll be the PS4, I predict it'll be yet another skew on the PS3. Maybe the PS3 THIN!!!!!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on February 11, 2013, 08:30:54 PM
A 4th PS3 model? They already have the super slim or whatever. A new Vita and/or a Vita price drop would be my guess if it's not the PS4.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bzalthek on February 11, 2013, 08:59:18 PM
Playstation Fleshlight

Heard it here first folks!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on February 12, 2013, 12:48:37 AM
Playstation Fleshlight

Heard it here first folks!
That's actually already a thing (NSFW). (http://kotaku.com/5982725/a-penis+powered-controller-that-looks-familiar)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on February 12, 2013, 01:44:33 AM
Hey I know let's consult the author in question.  Oh, she has a legal battle on her hands that she can't afford to fight for a case she'd be able to win if she only had the money, as "prior art" would pretty much be the end of any GW case. (http://mcahogarth.org/?p=10593)
Someone should start a Kickstarter for legal fees, if only to watch GW shit themselves and pay her off.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 12, 2013, 08:02:45 AM
Whatever Sony's announcement will be, it will be shitty.  A PS3.5 with fewer features perhaps, or some forced-upgrade shit, or the PS4 which would really be a PS3.5 anyway... hard to tell.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on February 12, 2013, 09:50:48 AM
Whatever Sony's announcement will be, it will be shitty.  A PS3.5 with fewer features perhaps, or some forced-upgrade shit, or the PS4 which would really be a PS3.5 anyway... hard to tell.

That's the rumor mill's best guess.  PS3.5


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bzalthek on February 12, 2013, 09:56:23 AM
Playstation Fleshlight

Heard it here first folks!
That's actually already a thing (NSFW). (http://kotaku.com/5982725/a-penis+powered-controller-that-looks-familiar)

I... Um...  Wow. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Outlawedprod on February 12, 2013, 10:54:12 AM
Hey I know let's consult the author in question.  Oh, she has a legal battle on her hands that she can't afford to fight for a case she'd be able to win if she only had the money, as "prior art" would pretty much be the end of any GW case. (http://mcahogarth.org/?p=10593)

Supposedly this was their stance in 1978
http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/67991_556088641075937_25322784_n.jpg

How times change.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on February 12, 2013, 07:10:03 PM
Whatever Sony's announcement will be, it will be shitty.  A PS3.5 with fewer features perhaps, or some forced-upgrade shit, or the PS4 which would really be a PS3.5 anyway... hard to tell.

That's the rumor mill's best guess.  PS3.5
I literally have no idea why they would make a PS3.5; what would that even entail? There are already 3 different PS3 models (really more than 10 if you count different HDs and such), one of which is less than 6 months old; what could they possibly add to the system that would justify a new purchase outside of an actual new system? PS2 backwards compatibility again? At this point, why even bother? And what else do people wish their PS3 did that it doesn't do already? No, there won't be a PS3.5 because that'd be fucking stupid and we already got the closest thing to it with the super slim model. If this announcement isn't the PS4 it's going to be a huge disappointment.

What I've heard is that there's going to be a new 4G Vita coming out to replace the 3G with some minor redesigns on the system (including a possible HDMI out), and a price drop on memory cards. I'm not sure if that announcement is coming on the 20th or during E3 but I'm reasonably sure it's happening this year.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 13, 2013, 06:47:22 AM
You see, it probably would be called a PS4 but I'd wonder if it deserved the increment.  Version numbers became marketing tools quite a number of years ago.  I can't imagine any actual features which would require a purchase, so I'm betting on it being a manufacturing overhaul to save cash, coupled with some sort of Vita/PSN/DRM updates.  Also note the PS3 is basically open to pirates now, and a new machine would mitigate that going forward.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maledict on February 13, 2013, 08:43:23 AM
The rumour mill here regarding the Sony announcement is completely different to somewhere so will be interesting to see which is true.

Generally assumed the announcement is the new PS4, running a completely different chip set that allows for much easier coding rather than the attrocious cell processor. Graphics power is supposed to be looking at 1080p at60fps (which makes sense given where pc graphics cards currently are compared to the current cnonsole generation).

Zero backwards compatibility due to the change in chipset, and headline launch games to include Killzone 4 in 2013. New console ships in Japan and USA this year, and Europe early next year. (Cause Sony hates its biggest market).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on February 14, 2013, 01:28:47 AM
Jesse Schell: Releasing a demo harms your game sales (http://www.pcgamesn.com/article/jesse-schell-releasing-demo-harms-your-game-sales)

Article is mostly just a link to the original presentation, so no easy quoting. I'll sum it up a bit:

Average Sales for X-Box games:

no Demo, no Trailer: 100k
     Demo, no Trailer: 200k
     Demo,     Trailer: 250k
no Demo,      Trailer: 500k

'Wait, we spent all this money creating a demo and getting it out there and it cut our sales in half? Yes, that's exactly what happened to you.'

Reasoning: Marketing creates a wish, "an utopia" in the players mind, often this demand is often met by playing the demo, is there no demo the player has no choice but to by the game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bzalthek on February 14, 2013, 01:58:18 AM
I always thought that was because the demo showed what a bunch of bullshit they've been feeding you with the trailers.  So, no demo with trailer option really turns into get as many sales as possible before people find out.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on February 14, 2013, 02:58:22 AM
Seems a little like leaping to conclusions for me. The stuff they know is going to sell a million copies never needs a demo.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Zetor on February 14, 2013, 03:01:39 AM
Sort of related, but I found this talk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIaifvx0e9Q) by Dave Gilbert (developer of the Blackwell series, publisher of Gemini Rue / Resonance / Primordia) pretty interesting... could be worth a look if you're interested what it takes to make/market/publish a point-and-click retro adventure game nowadays and why throwing more money at an adventure game's graphical assets doesn't necessarily make everything better.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on February 14, 2013, 04:29:38 AM
I think a demo for a bad game just helps some people see it's bad. A great game, on the other hand, doesn't need a demo generally because word of mouth is such a strong selling force among gamers. The only time I can see a demo helping a game is a great game that comes from such an obscure source that the demo is needed to get it attention. I suppose you could say that Minecraft's alpha and early beta builds were sorta kinda an example of that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on February 14, 2013, 06:26:31 AM
 So lie till day 1 release = more sales?  :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on February 14, 2013, 07:42:29 AM
The problem with that strategy is that it usually only works once.  Usually.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 14, 2013, 09:14:36 AM
Ask DICE about the value of a demo.

If you have a fun game and can show it off in a limited form that makes people want more. Demo.

If not, probably better to skip the demo.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on February 14, 2013, 04:40:50 PM
Seems a little like leaping to conclusions for me. The stuff they know is going to sell a million copies never needs a demo.

This. It's quite a stretch to take those numbers and reach that conclusion. In general though conventional wisdom is that you should have a demo if you need visibility, not if you already have it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: BLUND on February 14, 2013, 06:49:15 PM
A demo of a bad game will lower sales.
A demo of a good game will raise sales.
There are way more bad games than good games.
Therefore, on average, demos will lower sales, but on an individual basis, the deciding factor is quality.

...or a COD logo.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on February 15, 2013, 09:34:03 AM
So apparently Watch Dogs is coming out for 'all home consoles' this year according to some 'leaked' sales materials:

(http://i.imgur.com/ObZtr5r.jpg)

This was easily the highlight of E3 2012 for me, so here's hoping, anyway.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on February 27, 2013, 04:14:18 AM
Sqeenix trademarks the name 'Deus Ex: Human Defiance' (http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/27/deus-ex-human-defiance-trademark-spotted?abthid=512de0c06a37c0a20f000003)

Not sure what this relates to, a game, a WiiU port, or possibly a movie, but it's something.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 27, 2013, 05:56:33 AM
I forgot I was going to do this, but I just tested ShadowHearts 2 in PCSX2 v1.0.0 and I'm happy to report that moving from a Radeon HD 4870 to a GTX 650 has eliminated all issues with the opening cinematics.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Outlawedprod on February 27, 2013, 12:53:35 PM
Blizzard to show something new at PAX East.

Quote
As mentioned in the invite, this is a little something, different from what we’ve previously announced or talked about, and not a sequel, etc,
http://www.penny-arcade.com/report/editorial-article/yep-blizzard-is-showing-something-new-and-interesting-at-pax-east

Call of Duty Warcraft edition or mobile game imo.  Pick your poison wisely =p


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on February 27, 2013, 12:54:54 PM
I'm going to go with the wild speculation that they see Wildstar/Archeage as a threat and it's time to start the Project Titan hype machine FOR REALZ!   :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on February 27, 2013, 02:11:03 PM
Not a sequel? Well there go my dreams of seeing a modern version of Battle Chess.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 28, 2013, 06:31:09 AM
There is an animated chess on the iphone.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Miasma on February 28, 2013, 07:10:42 AM
I'm going to go with the wild speculation that they see Wildstar/Archeage as a threat and it's time to start the Project Titan hype machine FOR REALZ!   :why_so_serious:
They said it's not going to be their "rumoured next gen mmo" so yeah probably some sort of mobile game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on February 28, 2013, 07:12:31 AM
Yeah, and I'm still waiting on SC: Ghost.  We've been lied to before; anything is possible if you just BELIEVE!   :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on February 28, 2013, 08:04:07 AM
I'm still waiting on Warcraft Adventures.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: apocrypha on February 28, 2013, 08:53:06 AM
It's going to be a mobile game of some sort I think. Possibly a port or remake of something old.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on February 28, 2013, 11:35:06 PM
So after months of suffering through increasingly annoying visual artifacting, video driver crashes, etc with my newish computer, I bit the bullet and swapped in a new graphics card, figuring it pretty much had to be a hardware problem since no driver could be THAT buggy. 

It is AMAZING how much easier cases have gotten.  While I had the thing open I wanted to move the HD over from my old system (which I've been meaning to do for a year now).  Opening the old Antec case up to get the drive out, while much nicer than PCs of ten years ago (drive cage slides out, rather than having to disassemble the entire case to get at the drive), was like opening the Lament Configuration compared to my newer Alienware.  Open door, pop drive directly into waiting bay, close door.  The case even has (battery-powered) lights that come on when you open the door so you can see what you're doing.

And so far the new card (GTX 650 Ti) seems to have completely fixed all the horrible problems.   :drill:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phred on March 01, 2013, 01:05:22 AM
Yeah, and I'm still waiting on SC: Ghost.  We've been lied to before; anything is possible if you just BELIEVE!   :grin:

I guess I'm getting old but I remember when Ghost was pointed to as an example of Blizzard's integrity, not their dishonesty.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on March 01, 2013, 01:13:31 AM
Yeah, and I'm still waiting on SC: Ghost.  We've been lied to before; anything is possible if you just BELIEVE!   :grin:

I guess I'm getting old but I remember when Ghost was pointed to as an example of Blizzard's integrity, not their dishonesty.



Yeah this example doesn't work at all, Luckton.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on March 01, 2013, 06:15:04 AM
So, I've always been (VERY) clumsy with gamepads and I feel a lot of modern joysticks are like bulky spaceships :P. A few days ago, I purchased this:

(http://www.itsmart.gr/images/products/SPL/0384/SPEEDLINK_SL-6603-SPORTS-2.jpg)

I'm trying it right now and it feels simply GREAT and solid.

What's also nice for a "gaming enthusiast" like me it's the AMIGA collection (that you can play via the already included and installed emulator) that comes with it (on some online shops you also find a version with C64 games). Among other titles:

- Some Cinemaware titles (It Came from the Desert, Defender of the Crown, TV Sports Basketball and Football, Lords of the Rising Sun. Surely the highlights of the collection!)
- Goal (Dino Dini sequel to Kick Off 2)
- Paperboy
- Grand Monster Slam

There are also re-mastered versions of Epyx's Summer and Winter games, but they only come in german language.

Finally I can start re-playing the Wing Commander saga (among other stuff) with a serious joystick   :drill: :heart:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on March 01, 2013, 02:08:09 PM
It's going to be a mobile game of some sort I think. Possibly a port or remake of something old.
Rock n Roll Racing iOS/Android port on a freemium model.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shannow on March 01, 2013, 06:34:21 PM
Looks awesome Lucas.  That style of joystick was my favourie on the c64.   Mind you playing summer games is probably the quicker way known to kill a joystick


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Xuri on March 01, 2013, 07:25:59 PM
I preferred the ZipStick. Looks similar to the competition pro, just more awesome. Yellow, square buttons that seemed to be able to take more of a beating than the competition pro's, and could also survive being repeatedly thrown into walls. :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on March 14, 2013, 03:39:21 PM
Everyone knows that The Bug was the Joystick of Champions, right?

Anyway....

(http://i.minus.com/ibwCA1lqqbDKoA.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on March 14, 2013, 03:52:12 PM
Yay, it's an announcement of an announcement!  :uhrr:



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on March 14, 2013, 06:59:41 PM
Posted 1 page ago, sans picture.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 15, 2013, 05:52:05 AM
Quote from: Blizzard
hurr

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/85916/batman_cant_find_a_fuck.gif)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on March 15, 2013, 08:04:35 AM
So Saints Row 4 is coming on August 20 (http://www.joystiq.com/2013/03/15/saints-row-4-release-date-august-20/).  Superpowers, aliens and you're the President.  It's seemingly more like SR3.5, as you got to use superpowers in one of the xpacks for 3 and it definitely looks really similar, but more Saints Row isn't a bad thing.

Teaser here (http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/onchxe/saints-row-4-debut-teaser)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on March 15, 2013, 12:40:17 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/hEpaQm7l.jpg)
Sold.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on March 16, 2013, 05:13:15 PM
I'm going to guess the Blizzard announcement is their DOTA game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: goishen on March 17, 2013, 08:28:45 PM
Whatever it is, I expect it to be beautiful and have a craptastic story.  Hey, look, another Blizzard game.  From the 1990's, when we didn't care at all about story lines.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on March 18, 2013, 06:57:44 AM
I'm going to guess the Blizzard announcement is their DOTA game.

If so, they should have realized the horse was out of the barn on that one about a year ago.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on March 18, 2013, 07:27:33 AM
The new speculation regarding Blizzard is that it's an online interpretation of the WoW TCG.  I might actually bite at that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Miasma on March 18, 2013, 01:39:37 PM
John Riccitiello is stepping down as EA's CEO. (http://business.financialpost.com/2013/03/18/electronic-arts-ceo-john-riccitiello-to-step-down-march-30/)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on March 18, 2013, 03:10:09 PM
The new speculation regarding Blizzard is that it's an online interpretation of the WoW TCG.  I might actually bite at that.
Let it be playable from inside WoW, put digital versions of the WoW prize cards in the booster packs. C'mon Blizzard, copy SOE one more time.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on March 18, 2013, 11:47:37 PM
Two games announced which I would be excited about if I hadn't become so jaded:
-Might&Magic 10 (http://www.joystiq.com/2013/03/18/might-and-magic-x-reveal-at-pax-east-teased-by-ubisoft/)
-turn-based Warhammer 40K game (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/03/18/waaagh-face-slitherine-announce-turn-based-40k-game/)

Might&Magics (not the heroes kind) have been some of my favorite games from the second one onward though by the ninth they had become trash and 40K as a turn-based strategy game could be awesome.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 19, 2013, 07:20:33 AM
I would love a 40k TBS. Since it's a turned base game. We have rules for that!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tgr on March 19, 2013, 07:27:34 AM
John Riccitiello is stepping down as EA's CEO. (http://business.financialpost.com/2013/03/18/electronic-arts-ceo-john-riccitiello-to-step-down-march-30/)
Posted this in the Sim City thread, but I think it's relevant here as well:
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-03-19-peter-moore-kotaku-reveling-in-self-smugness-over-riccitiello-resignation


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on March 19, 2013, 07:40:04 AM
I completed M&M 7, avoided 8, didn't even know there was a 9.  Can't say I'm terribly excited about a new M&M.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on March 19, 2013, 09:36:37 AM
I would love a 40k TBS. Since it's a turned base game. We have rules for that!

40k Turn-based? JUST SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY ALREADY!!!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: cironian on March 19, 2013, 11:21:41 AM
I would love a 40k TBS. Since it's a turned base game. We have rules for that!

40k Turn-based? JUST SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY ALREADY!!!

Seems like a sure winner from the announcement, so the question is: How will they mess this one up? My money is on them making it "more accessible" by throwing the licensed unit graphics into a half-baked dumbed down ruleset. :popcorn:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on March 19, 2013, 11:27:39 AM
The 40k game is going to be "simultaneous release on iPad and PC" so I don't expect it to be tremendously complex.

EDIT: On the other hand I just realized who Slitherine is. Hmmm. Almost makes me wonder if it will be a strategic-level 40k game rather than unit-level, I don't think we've seen one of those ever?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on March 19, 2013, 11:37:35 AM
The 40k game is going to be "simultaneous release on iPad and PC" so I don't expect it to be tremendously complex.

EDIT: On the other hand I just realized who Slitherine is. Hmmm. Almost makes me wonder if it will be a strategic-level 40k game rather than unit-level, I don't think we've seen one of those ever?

While Slitherine's products haven't really amazed me so far, they atleast know how to make a proper turn based strategy game. I just hope they won't water it down too much to appeal to the main stream (and to make it work on ipad). I wish someone (like Paradox) would make a game like HoI2 that is either fantasy or scifi (with somewhat random events to replace the historical ww2 stuff)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: cironian on March 19, 2013, 01:00:55 PM
Hmm, I wasn't aware of the name before, but it looks like you are right about them knowing their strategy. Still, I'll keep my expectations low and just see what the initial reviews say.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 19, 2013, 03:34:58 PM
How will they mess this one up?
Maybe they could give that license to Cyanide?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on March 19, 2013, 06:56:00 PM
How will they mess this one up?
Maybe they could give that license to Cyanide?

(http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/smiles/orson_welles_clap.gif)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on March 19, 2013, 06:58:54 PM
The 40k game is going to be "simultaneous release on iPad and PC" so I don't expect it to be tremendously complex.

EDIT: On the other hand I just realized who Slitherine is. Hmmm. Almost makes me wonder if it will be a strategic-level 40k game rather than unit-level, I don't think we've seen one of those ever?

While Slitherine's products haven't really amazed me so far, they atleast know how to make a proper turn based strategy game. I just hope they won't water it down too much to appeal to the main stream (and to make it work on ipad). I wish someone (like Paradox) would make a game like HoI2 that is either fantasy or scifi (with somewhat random events to replace the historical ww2 stuff)

Meh, if Paradox is doing it, you can be sure they're going to go with stripped down vanillas and then throwing 'minor features packs' at it for $10.00 every quarter year basis...
I'm kinda annoyed they did that, but I bought them at sales price that totals around $10-20, which is pretty good for a 100-hr game.

But the DLC policy is definitely driving me away from Day 1 purchase.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on March 20, 2013, 11:03:06 AM
The 40k game is going to be "simultaneous release on iPad and PC" so I don't expect it to be tremendously complex.

EDIT: On the other hand I just realized who Slitherine is. Hmmm. Almost makes me wonder if it will be a strategic-level 40k game rather than unit-level, I don't think we've seen one of those ever?

While Slitherine's products haven't really amazed me so far, they atleast know how to make a proper turn based strategy game. I just hope they won't water it down too much to appeal to the main stream (and to make it work on ipad). I wish someone (like Paradox) would make a game like HoI2 that is either fantasy or scifi (with somewhat random events to replace the historical ww2 stuff)

Meh, if Paradox is doing it, you can be sure they're going to go with stripped down vanillas and then throwing 'minor features packs' at it for $10.00 every quarter year basis...
I'm kinda annoyed they did that, but I bought them at sales price that totals around $10-20, which is pretty good for a 100-hr game.

But the DLC policy is definitely driving me away from Day 1 purchase.

 :headscratch:

I don't know where you're getting Paradox into the mix. Slitherine self-publishes.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Segoris on March 20, 2013, 12:09:31 PM
The 40k game is going to be "simultaneous release on iPad and PC" so I don't expect it to be tremendously complex.

EDIT: On the other hand I just realized who Slitherine is. Hmmm. Almost makes me wonder if it will be a strategic-level 40k game rather than unit-level, I don't think we've seen one of those ever?

While Slitherine's products haven't really amazed me so far, they atleast know how to make a proper turn based strategy game. I just hope they won't water it down too much to appeal to the main stream (and to make it work on ipad). I wish someone (like Paradox) would make a game like HoI2 that is either fantasy or scifi (with somewhat random events to replace the historical ww2 stuff)

Meh, if Paradox is doing it, you can be sure they're going to go with stripped down vanillas and then throwing 'minor features packs' at it for $10.00 every quarter year basis...
I'm kinda annoyed they did that, but I bought them at sales price that totals around $10-20, which is pretty good for a 100-hr game.

But the DLC policy is definitely driving me away from Day 1 purchase.

 :headscratch:

I don't know where you're getting Paradox into the mix. Slitherine self-publishes.

I'm guessing in the quote he was responding to. Just a hunch. :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on March 21, 2013, 10:35:10 AM
M&M X announcement trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=V5r6M8ElBXY)

I think I might actually be looking forward to this if they actually stick to the "old-school" (and make a proper pc game)  :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on March 21, 2013, 11:26:18 AM
First-person and  turn-based? ...from Ubisoft ?

Cautiously optimistic.

Edit: This is apparently being developed by the German Limbic Entertainment, whose only titles I recognize (in a very small catalog) are the two expasnions for Heroes of Might & Magic VI. Were those any good?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on March 22, 2013, 07:48:20 AM
The new speculation regarding Blizzard is that it's an online interpretation of the WoW TCG.  I might actually bite at that.

HOLY SHIT.  INTERNET RUMORS ARE TRUE!

http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/

 :drill:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 22, 2013, 08:07:03 AM
I don't know, it specifically says that it is for everyone.  I don't usually like games that are made for everyone.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 22, 2013, 08:17:09 AM
This is not the WoW TCG. It's not even an interpretation of it as far as I can tell. I don't understand why they're doing this.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on March 22, 2013, 08:18:45 AM
Micro-transactions for booster packs.

i.e. lots and lots of money from mobile gamers.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 22, 2013, 08:19:48 AM
Sure, but they could've done that by just translating the generally accepted as "this is the only alternative to Magic" to mobile platforms. They wouldn't even have to do card design if they'd just done the WoW TCG.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on March 28, 2013, 02:38:17 PM
Chinese copyright infringement game of the day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjrjZc5tfRI
Project Tank!

(It's totally not World of Tanks in a browser, nosirree!)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on April 01, 2013, 04:59:58 PM
So...is this like the first year that Blizzard didn't actually do something for April Fool's Day?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 02, 2013, 06:19:27 AM
No one gives half a turd about their shenanigans.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on April 02, 2013, 07:12:36 AM
So...is this like the first year that Blizzard didn't actually do something for April Fool's Day?

They did a Starcraft 2 joke, but really only people who participated in HotS beta or followed the balance patches would get it. 

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/9369235/Situation_Report_--_April_1_2013-3_31_2013


It was actually accompanied by your worker units having a chance to spawn as little mini warhounds in multiplayer games (they had the normal stats of workers, they just changed the model).

Kind of weak.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on April 02, 2013, 09:43:23 AM
So...is this like the first year that Blizzard didn't actually do something for April Fool's Day?
The last year has been the joke.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Salamok on April 04, 2013, 07:23:55 AM
So is Zynga dipping it's toe into online gambling (http://arstechnica.com/business/2013/04/zynga-launches-real-money-online-gambling-stock-price-surges/) of any significance.  Part of me thinks this will be hugely profitable but then again it isn't something many others aren't already doing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 05, 2013, 06:34:00 AM
Not shocking.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Miasma on April 05, 2013, 07:39:22 AM
Is that the company where people figured out they were manipulating the cards dealt in their non gambling rmt version of poker so that you had to buy more chips?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on April 05, 2013, 01:46:56 PM
http://www.ea.com/news/we-can-do-better?websso=1

Good job Consumerist, your stupid fucking poll's given EA the room to thump its chest and not look completely unsympathetic doing so.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on April 05, 2013, 01:48:24 PM
That poll is so  :uhrr:. Good job internet people.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on April 05, 2013, 01:50:59 PM
I guess the creative director at Microsoft Studios does not get why anyone would mind having an 'always on' console. He tweeted some stupid comments, some people called him on it and now he has marked everything private. Apparently the whole SimCity debacle was no big deal to him.

Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2013/04/05/microsoft-creative-director-on-always-online-consoles-deal-with-it/)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Quinton on April 06, 2013, 11:53:49 AM
Microsoft PR attempts to calm people down, without actually addressing the always-on issue:

Quote
“We apologize for the inappropriate comments made by an employee on Twitter yesterday. This person is not a spokesperson for Microsoft, and his personal views do not reflect the customer centric approach we take to our products or how we would communicate directly with our loyal consumers.  We are very sorry if this offended anyone, however we have not made any announcements about our product roadmap, and have no further comment on this matter.”

http://majornelson.com/2013/04/05/official-statement-on-what-was-said-yesterday/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on April 06, 2013, 04:40:48 PM
Microsoft PR attempts to calm people down, without actually addressing the always-on issue:

Quote
“We apologize for the inappropriate comments made by an employee on Twitter yesterday. This person is not a spokesperson for Microsoft, and his personal views do not reflect the customer centric approach we take to our products or how we would communicate directly with our loyal consumers.  We are very sorry if this offended anyone, however we have not made any announcements about our product roadmap, and have no further comment on this matter.”

http://majornelson.com/2013/04/05/official-statement-on-what-was-said-yesterday/

I posted the twitter exchange in the funny pic thread.

Would love to be in the room when Balmer gives this guy a good dressing down... :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on April 06, 2013, 07:23:52 PM
Enh, Balmer wouldn't scare me right now.  If he tried, I'd just start repeating, "Windows 8" over and over.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on April 08, 2013, 04:10:58 AM
Interview with Paul Thurott about the new Xbox. Youtube (starting 54m44s) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01qrzaZg7_g#t=54m44)

Some highlights:

  • With Xbox720 introduction a new Xbox360, codename 'Stingray' will launched. Pricepoint 99$.
  • Due to this Thurott speculates the 720 wont be downward compatible.
  • Price will be in the range of 500$ or 300$ plus subscription.
  • Always on requirement confirmed.
  • Presentation will be on 21st May (originally planed 24th April).
  • MS sees Apple as their main competition, not Sony or Nintendo.
  • Market for 'people who always buy next Gears of War, Halo, COD & sit with controller in front of TV at night is finite' 'Market for little mobile games, facebook games is billions'
  • 'Hardcore gamer types will always buy what they release, but mass market won't spend 500 bucks on a device that sits in your living room' thus:
  • Multimedia-only version (non-gaming device, codename 'Yuma') of the Xbox already in planning.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on April 08, 2013, 06:17:58 AM
Interview with Paul Thurott about the new Xbox. Youtube (starting 54m44s) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01qrzaZg7_g#t=54m44)

Some highlights:

  • With Xbox720 introduction a new Xbox360, codename 'Stingray' will launched. Pricepoint 99$.
  • Due to this Thurott speculates the 720 wont be downward compatible.
  • Price will be in the range of 500$ or 300$ plus subscription.
  • Always on requirement confirmed.
  • Presentation will be on 21st May (originally planed 24th April).
  • MS sees Apple as their main competition, not Sony or Nintendo.
  • Market for 'people who always buy next Gears of War, Halo, COD & sit with controller in front of TV at night is finite' 'Market for little mobile games, facebook games is billions'
  • 'Hardcore gamer types will always buy what they release, but mass market won't spend 500 bucks on a device that sits in your living room' thus:
  • Multimedia-only version (non-gaming device, codename 'Yuma') of the Xbox already in planning.

I am not a fan of the direction console gaming is headed. Does any of this seem like a good idea?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on April 08, 2013, 06:44:20 AM
Yes, because the PS3 at a $500 price point did so well, too.

:popcorn:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Morat20 on April 08, 2013, 06:48:57 AM
They are really not making the case for me switching from the 360.

Looks like what they really want to do is leverage the Xbox name into an AppleTV competitor.

Which sounds like a good way to piss off their customers (increase the cost of the box, add value in areas the base customer doesn't really care for, and not in areas they do) and try to sell it to an entirely DIFFERENT customer base.

About the only bright side there is the new, cheaper 360 seems to be entirely hedging their bet.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 08, 2013, 07:10:53 AM
Console gaming is dead, long live pc gaming!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on April 08, 2013, 07:28:56 AM
Doesn't it just seem like they are going to end up with a watered down product? When you try to do everything, you end up doing none of it very well.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on April 08, 2013, 07:55:21 AM
Always online for a console is complete bollocks. That's one of the few features of a console that has always been a selling point away from the PC.

Also, what metric is telling these people that Facebook and mobile games are the future? I hope they aren't using Zynga as an example since the execs are now getting sued over their bullshit sales we called out almost a year ago (http://www.valuewalk.com/2013/04/zynga-inc-znga-sued-by-shareholder-over-stock-sales/)

They should win that suit, and Zynga should be bankrupt soon. They have been pushing heavy losses for 2 years in a row, with no signs of recovery.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on April 08, 2013, 08:32:37 AM
This is such an opportunity for Sony. No online requirement, allow used games and the nextbox is out of the game for a generation.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on April 08, 2013, 08:34:14 AM
This is such an opportunity for Sony. No online requirement, allow used games and the nextbox is out of the game for a generation.

I don't have faith in them. I would assume they will just follow suit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goreschach on April 08, 2013, 08:43:59 AM
ITT old people yelling at clouds.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on April 08, 2013, 08:49:38 AM
ITT old people yelling at clouds.

You're probably right. I keep thinking about some younger people I know who would probably eat this shit right up. I am not the target audience anymore. I have become my parents.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on April 08, 2013, 09:04:31 AM
ITT old people yelling at clouds.

Nope. This is bad business. In fact, Sony has been tanking for the last 3 years, and they just posted their largest loss in years along with their revenue totals 16% lower than 2009 levels. Their cash flows are dwindling year to year.

They should take advantage of MS making giant missteps of late if they want to turn the tide. Otherwise? They are going to get bled out of the marketshare.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on April 08, 2013, 09:26:51 AM
They are really not making the case for me switching from the 360.

Ditto.

Quote
Which sounds like a good way to piss off their customers (increase the cost of the box, add value in areas the base customer doesn't really care for, and not in areas they do) and try to sell it to an entirely DIFFERENT customer base.

So basically the new XBox is Windows 8 in shitbrick form?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on April 08, 2013, 11:10:12 AM
This is such an opportunity for Sony. No online requirement, allow used games and the nextbox is out of the game for a generation.

I don't have faith in them. I would assume they will just follow suit.

to trust not is wise
yet always on requirement
denied has been

Edit: Cut me some slack, I am new to this haiku stuff. :oops:

What about:

always on fear
floating on the internetz
denials blossom


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on April 08, 2013, 12:25:33 PM
That Microsoft is shifting their console stuff to be more of an Apple competitor should surprise absolutely nobody whatsoever.

I mean, Microsoft essentially said a decade ago with the launch of the original XBox that this kind of stuff (an all-in-one multimedia set-top box that you pay into) was their long-term goal, and that they were using console gaming as an "in".


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on April 08, 2013, 12:34:21 PM
The problem with that theory is that when you aren't first to the party, and the guy with the first product doesn't suck, it's hard to break in.

See Google v. Bing, or Origin v. Steam


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on April 08, 2013, 01:00:06 PM
Which sounds like a good way to piss off their customers (increase the cost of the box, add value in areas the base customer doesn't really care for, and not in areas they do) and try to sell it to an entirely DIFFERENT customer base.
So standard procedure for every-other OS they've put out?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Morat20 on April 08, 2013, 04:06:00 PM
lol. Pretty much.

I'm not dropping 500 for it. Heck, as it was I'm happy enough with the 360 that it'd have to be a big step up to get me to drop 300 on it. (Certainly not the first six months. Let other people sort out their first-run hardware problems),

But flat-out -- marketing it as a social/media hub, gaming console second? Officially lost interest in spending money on them at all.

I guess what's really annoying here is the Xbox is a gaming console. And the news there? Social and media stuff. Not gaming. Even if the Xbox 720 is some quantum leap in gaming, it feels like gaming is an afterthought.

Also? FUCK ALWAYS ONLINE. My internet goes out, so I can't play games? Fuck you. I'm not paying a few hundred dollars for something that's a brick if ATT is having network problems.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fordel on April 08, 2013, 04:11:17 PM
How much does a 360 cost these days? Is the new 'stingray' model significantly cheaper?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on April 08, 2013, 04:27:04 PM
How much does a 360 cost these days? Is the new 'stingray' model significantly cheaper?
Depends on which one. There are like a bazillion SKUs now :why_so_serious: (actually only 6 not including the special bundles).

4 GB or 250 GB
with or without Kinect
with or without 2 year Xbox Live Gold subscription.

The cheapest are the $99 4 GB + Kinect or $99 250 GB (no Kinect) with the 2 year Xbox Live Gold subscription.

Without the subscription the cheapest is $199 for the 4 GB (no Kinect).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on April 08, 2013, 07:20:26 PM
The current $99 with subscription is a 2 year, $14.99/month subscription, making it ~$40 more expensive than just buying the system and two years of Gold outright. If the Stingray is an actual $99 SKU with no subscription required it'd be a significant drop, but with no memory it probably still requires another $129.99 for a hard drive.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on April 08, 2013, 08:31:50 PM
To me the whole idea of a "set top box" that rules them all is already way outdated. It's a goal that MS has had for at least 15 years. WebTV was supposed to be that. But to me one unified box that plays games, video, services, etc, seems like someone offering an amp, receiver and 5 disc CD changer in one package - who cares? People use iPods to listen to music now, not 5 component stereo system towers.

The modern family is less tethered to the TV and living room every day. This is definitely not "old man yells at cloud", it's the opposite - old man pursues outdated business goal. Have you been in the living room of someone who has kids? One kid is on the computer, one kid is using an iPad. There isn't a family circle around the TV. "Back in my day we all shared one wooden toy." This sort of living room domination is that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on April 08, 2013, 08:34:27 PM
You're probably right. I keep thinking about some younger people I know who would probably eat this shit right up. I am not the target audience anymore. I have become my parents.

Young people might not be bothered by "always on" requirements but do you think young people interact with social media by sitting down in front of the TV?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phred on April 09, 2013, 01:07:16 AM
The problem with that theory is that when you aren't first to the party, and the guy with the first product doesn't suck, it's hard to break in.

It would seem exceptionally hard when putting 0 effort behind the attempt. See this recent article on the Windows 8 Store ._

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/5-reasons-why-the-windows-8-store-is-a-complete-mess/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on April 09, 2013, 05:47:14 AM
You're probably right. I keep thinking about some younger people I know who would probably eat this shit right up. I am not the target audience anymore. I have become my parents.

Young people might not be bothered by "always on" requirements but do you think young people interact with social media by sitting down in front of the TV?

Perhaps not, but they probably would view it as another way to connect with friends or family. They are so used to being available 24/7 anyway and now it is easier to see what my friends are up to.

I'm probably going to sound even older now, but cell phones are really what started the "always on" issue. My in-laws actually get upset when my wife and I don't answer our cell phones. As if having the cell means I am available at all times whenever you call. It drives me insane, but younger people are so used to this idea that it is second nature.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on April 09, 2013, 06:58:27 AM
The definition of irony?  Having your DRM solution hacked to deliver free games, including unreleased ones (http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/13884/article/far-cry-3-blood-dragon-leaked-by-uplay-exploit/).

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Russian hackers have figured out a way to download free games from Ubisoft's servers, exploiting an existing vulnerability in Ubisoft's uPlay launcher


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 09, 2013, 07:03:10 AM
To me the whole idea of a "set top box" that rules them all is already way outdated. It's a goal that MS has had for at least 15 years. WebTV was supposed to be that. But to me one unified box that plays games, video, services, etc, seems like someone offering an amp, receiver and 5 disc CD changer in one package - who cares? People use iPods to listen to music now, not 5 component stereo system towers.
The receiver is still the heart of the media system. Headphones and docking systems can't compete with real speakers.

My main problem with a set-top unibox is that everyone wants to make it a walled garden device, injecting more middle-man profit grabbing into an already expensive chain. I have a perfectly good unified device (and I'm looking at unifying even more with a cable card) in my PC. Great gaming, blu-ray, streaming video and music. But I can't watch HD movies because it's not walled and Amazon has a fit about that (even though I'm paying a sub for Prime).
Young people might not be bothered by "always on" requirements
Young people might not pay for their online connection or have realistic budgets. Having a broadband connection isn't a reality in most of the world. It does follow the trend of squeezing the haves harder and just forgetting about the have-nots entirely.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Segoris on April 09, 2013, 08:11:08 AM
The definition of irony?  Having your DRM solution hacked to deliver free games, including unreleased ones (http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/13884/article/far-cry-3-blood-dragon-leaked-by-uplay-exploit/).

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Russian hackers have figured out a way to download free games from Ubisoft's servers, exploiting an existing vulnerability in Ubisoft's uPlay launcher

I'm torn between just putting a smiley icon because, well, fuck Ubi's uPlay system right in the god damn ear or being upset because this will just give those nutbags more to bitch about and blame on pirates instead of their shitty systems.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on April 11, 2013, 02:38:07 AM
In other Ubisoft news, apparently Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon was actually a real thing and not an April Fool's joke.

( :awesome_for_real: & amazing ) website: http://fc3blooddragon.uk.ubi.com/

It's like every early-80s sci-fi action movie rolled into one (including having Michael Biehn in it).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on April 11, 2013, 03:52:28 AM
Following Twitter Tirade, Microsoft Creative Director Adam Orth No Longer With Microsoft (https://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2013/04/10/following-twitter-tirade_2c00_-microsoft-designer-adam-orth-resigns.aspx)

That went quick...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on April 11, 2013, 04:12:53 AM
It's funny. Had it been something the net agreed with, they'd be bitching in comments about how unfair it is he was fired for statements on his private twitter.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on April 11, 2013, 04:28:27 AM
Considering how much science there is behind things like crowd psychology, he pretty much played with fire and was surprised when he got burned.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on April 11, 2013, 04:56:26 AM
So Microsoft is going to push their new console into spot in the market that doesn't even fucking exist.  There is no demand for an always on multimedia device that requires a subscription service and is totally walled off.  Not primarily a gaming console?  Are they fucking bonkers?  They are going to cram in a bajillion feature that are all better done by some other device.  I already have 47 devices that will work with Hulu or Netflix.  I have better ways to use facebook.  I have better web browsers.  My other devices have better peripherals for inputs.  I have several blu ray players.  I don't want yet another way to connect people.  My PC already does whatever you are trying to duplicate, and already plays super amazing games.  I don't want to pay a subscription to play Farmville, or whatever.  500 dollars?  Hardy har har.  I never thought we would get to a console generation that I would not be an early adopter of.  Wii U was the first, and now this.  Sony isn't looking all that smart either.  Seems like for the first time in a long time that the way has been paved for somebody else to come in and clean up.

I have a great new idea, though.  Recent marketing studies have indicated that people who sit down on their couches often like to have carbonated beverages nearby.  Someone should make a gaming console that is primarily a carbonated beverage dispensing device, and a maybe including a touchscreen on it so that you can still play your angry birds while skyping with your grandma.  Fucking money hats.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on April 11, 2013, 06:11:02 AM
I can't get enough of Microsoft thinking they need like 32 different SKUs for every product. Okay we got the new console, a new-old console, then a settop box. Whew, did we miss any bases yet? Do they have a handheld?

Following Twitter Tirade, Microsoft Creative Director Adam Orth No Longer With Microsoft (https://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2013/04/10/following-twitter-tirade_2c00_-microsoft-designer-adam-orth-resigns.aspx)

That went quick...
lmao forever.

Edit: Also, Polygon is defending the guy. Just FYI Polygon took $250,000 from Microsoft. Sure it's a coincidence.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on April 11, 2013, 06:39:07 AM
The most recent set of leaks/rumors re: the next XBox are actually pretty interesting (http://www.vgleaks.com/microsoft-xbox-roadmap-2013/).

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The “Xbox Mini” is not a 360 add-on, it is a stand alone product that contains Xbox 360 functions for gaming, and alone it is meant to compete with Apple TV. Since it is likely it will not have a disc drive, it is being designed with “always online” in mind, and with internet being required for Live functions....

...Durango itself will also always be online like any other device (correct with rumors), but it will not be a requirement to play local content and it will not prevent playing used games. Putting in an Xbox 360 disc into Durango will prompt the user to attach the supporting device that is sold separately. By separating the two devices and their functions it will ensure price competitiveness for both pieces of hardware.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 11, 2013, 07:24:34 AM
So Microsoft is going to push their new console into spot in the market that doesn't even fucking exist.  There is no demand for an always on multimedia device that requires a subscription service and is totally walled off.  Not primarily a gaming console?  Are they fucking bonkers?  They are going to cram in a bajillion feature that are all better done by some other device.  I already have 47 devices that will work with Hulu or Netflix.  I have better ways to use facebook.  I have better web browsers.  My other devices have better peripherals for inputs.  I have several blu ray players.  I don't want yet another way to connect people.  My PC already does whatever you are trying to duplicate, and already plays super amazing games.

When you put it like that, sounds perfect for Sky.

So, yes: bonkers.

What are bonkers, anyway?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 11, 2013, 07:51:35 AM
My only complaint is the device binding of Amazon Prime video. Even if the new console from MS is better at 1080p than my 460SLI with 2GB vram, it won't be for long.

So they don't even get me, ostensibly the target demographic. Though not really because it's the money boner thing for social networking, and my social networking is going over to the neighbors to have a beer in his garage or having a friend over to jam.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on April 11, 2013, 07:54:22 AM
So Microsoft is going to push their new console into spot in the market that doesn't even fucking exist.  There is no demand for an always on multimedia device that requires a subscription service and is totally walled off.  Not primarily a gaming console?  Are they fucking bonkers?  They are going to cram in a bajillion feature that are all better done by some other device.  I already have 47 devices that will work with Hulu or Netflix.  I have better ways to use facebook.  I have better web browsers.  My other devices have better peripherals for inputs.  I have several blu ray players.  I don't want yet another way to connect people.  My PC already does whatever you are trying to duplicate, and already plays super amazing games.

When you put it like that, sounds perfect for Sky.

So, yes: bonkers.

What are bonkers, anyway?

(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/jmarko579/3-2.jpg)

I used to love this candy. Maybe my post belongs in the Old Farts thread.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on April 11, 2013, 08:15:46 AM
Durango: SegaCD part deux


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on April 11, 2013, 12:43:16 PM
The receiver is still the heart of the media system. Headphones and docking systems can't compete with real speakers.

From an audio quality standpoint, sure. The again MP3s can't compete with CDs and Netflix streaming can't compete with Blu-Ray.

I don't own a receiver or "media system" of any kind and there are a lot of people out there like me.

Edit: As far as "always online" goes, the phrase is used to mean about ten different things. When used by PR it generally means "does not function without a connection" not "uses a connection constantly if you have one." So when I read something like "...Durango itself will also always be online like any other device (correct with rumors), but it will not be a requirement to play local content and it will not prevent playing used games" I have no idea what to think.

This SKU stuff is incredibly confusing. If I have a Durango is there any reason I'd want this 360 mini other than to play 360 games? And I can't update my existing 360 to give it the functions of the new one? What?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on April 11, 2013, 01:27:11 PM
This SKU stuff is incredibly confusing. If I have a Durango is there any reason I'd want this 360 mini other than to play 360 games? And I can't update my existing 360 to give it the functions of the new one? What?

As far as I can tell (and assuming this all pans out), they're releasing the Durango and the 'XBox mini' (which is being positioned against Roku/AppleTV, etc) as standalone devices.

Durango won't have backwards compatibility built in, but if it's connected to the Mini (Form Voltron!), you can chuck your 360 discs in Durango's drive and they'll work.

XBox mini won't have an optical drive, but it will play your XBLA stuff and anything you purchased using XBox Games on Demand.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 11, 2013, 01:50:53 PM
Eh... is there a link to the Visio diagram for this?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on April 11, 2013, 02:11:43 PM
Eh... is there a link to the Visio diagram for this?

Seriously.

One thing I hate about gaming today is how you need a fucking spreadsheet to buy anything. People are going to walk into a store and be able to buy a 720, a 360 or a Mini, all of which do different things alone and in combination. I suspect that the Mini is going to be HD-DVD drive of this gen.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soln on April 11, 2013, 03:56:39 PM
Eh... is there a link to the Visio diagram for this?

Seriously.

One thing I hate about gaming today is how you need a fucking spreadsheet to buy anything. People are going to walk into a store and be able to buy a 720, a 360 or a Mini, all of which do different things alone and in combination. I suspect that the Mini is going to be HD-DVD drive of this gen.

This product fragmentation?  It's the group internecine warfare within Microsoft.  Bet anything each SKU does something DIFFERENT that some VP and chums can point to as a completed goal.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on April 11, 2013, 06:02:42 PM
I have a great new idea, though.  Recent marketing studies have indicated that people who sit down on their couches often like to have carbonated beverages nearby.  Someone should make a gaming console that is primarily a carbonated beverage dispensing device, and a maybe including a touchscreen on it so that you can still play your angry birds while skyping with your grandma.  Fucking money hats.

With the tech that is in Coke's Freestyle machines, this is a total possibility and a fantastic idea. 

I now want to create a subscription soda service for fat Americans so they never have to go to the store again.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on April 11, 2013, 06:29:40 PM
Jones Soda had (and may still have, too lazy to research) subscription soda services in the late 90s. As did a few other boutique companies.

It was pretty good.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Morat20 on April 11, 2013, 07:05:02 PM
I wouldn't mind an actual soda fountain setup. Just buy the packs and the CO2 -- probably be cheaper over the long run. *shrug*

Microsoft is still being a flaming moron with the 720. I think they're doing all the BS social-networking crap for the same reason SimCity did -- as a justification for what is an anti-piracy (well, anti-resale actually) move. They want a cut of that Gamestop money, and they're willing to fuck over the Xbox to get it.

Which is gonna be..interesting, because legally if they do anything to actually cut into resales, they're running afoul of the law. OTOH, the Supreme Court has been moving lately to make it REALLY fucking hard to do class-action lawsuits, so they might be able to get away with it under the assumption that no class-action suit can be put together.

On the third hand -- they're still fucking over their gamers because they want that gamestop resale money (and it's not like they're gonna lower the box price to cut into it -- heavens no) and their gamers are seeing a bullshit social media box that claims to be a console.

So, you know, pretty standard software company stabbing itself in the dick in pursuit of money it thinks it deserves but doesn't get.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on April 11, 2013, 07:18:21 PM
It's not afoul of resale laws if it's software you never owned.   If it's streamed to your unit and you only have a licence agreement to have access which can be revoked/ arbitrated instead of sued over.  Well, they win.   You didn't need to sign the TOS to buy the fixture and you can still use it for base function. However, you HAD to click-through that TOS to lease the software, so sorry no "i had to open it first" shrinkwrap shenanagins stuff!

Do I think they'll succeed? Probably.  Consumers are getting dumber as retailers get cleverer.  I never assumed anyone would be dumb enough to do pay-per-minute for Data and phone again. Boy was I wrong!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on April 12, 2013, 05:54:11 AM
I wouldn't mind an actual soda fountain setup. Just buy the packs and the CO2 -- probably be cheaper over the long run. *shrug*


It's the insulin that gets expensive.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on April 12, 2013, 06:17:32 AM
Do I think they'll succeed? Probably.  Consumers are getting dumber as retailers get cleverer.

This. They will succeed. Too many gamers are looking for that fix and aren't thinking twice about what it means to not really own the games they buy.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Morat20 on April 12, 2013, 06:54:37 AM
It's not afoul of resale laws if it's software you never owned.   If it's streamed to your unit and you only have a licence agreement to have access which can be revoked/ arbitrated instead of sued over.  Well, they win.   You didn't need to sign the TOS to buy the fixture and you can still use it for base function. However, you HAD to click-through that TOS to lease the software, so sorry no "i had to open it first" shrinkwrap shenanagins stuff!

Do I think they'll succeed? Probably.  Consumers are getting dumber as retailers get cleverer.  I never assumed anyone would be dumb enough to do pay-per-minute for Data and phone again. Boy was I wrong!
Right, but this "always on" stuff doesn't seem to fit into "We'd like to stream the games to you! No more discs!" logic -- that doesn't need to be "always on", unless they're paranoid you're gonna somehow figure out how to install the game on multiple X-boxes and play it, which seems like more work than the average customer will bother with (and nothing they can do will stop the dedicated ones).

I'm talking physical disc resale -- that's what's been pissing MS off. Sure, half the reason for digital delivery is to kick that option in the nads. But "always on" is like first-day DLC's in an attempt to say "Nope, can't play that game. Someone else still 'owns' it even though you've paid for it!"

That part's illegal, although I suppose if they're trying to claim online experience is integral (even if online only means 'you can auto-facebook shit') then they can try to side-step it.

But in the end, this is gonna be a festering pile of shit because it's all justifications for preventing resale, not a useful feature in of itself. Like SimCity, what you have here is a console designed around a mandate of "Fuck you if you bought your game at Gamestop".


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 12, 2013, 07:29:22 AM
There's a difference between reselling your game and the wholesale rape that is gamestop's business model.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 12, 2013, 11:23:23 AM
It would only be rape if they were forcing people to do it.  Most people don't love their games the way old farts do.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on April 12, 2013, 11:26:22 AM
I wouldn't mind an actual soda fountain setup. Just buy the packs and the CO2 -- probably be cheaper over the long run. *shrug*

Much cheaper.  Google "SodaStream". 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on April 12, 2013, 12:56:01 PM
I want an actual 2 head fountain whenever I get a condo/home. Sodastream is cheaper but not even remotely the same thing. I want muh'fuckin Diet Rooster Booster and endless no work required stream of soda water.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on April 12, 2013, 03:21:10 PM
There'll be work required no matter what unless you hire someone to refill and maintain the machine for you, but yeah, a SodaStream isn't quite the same thing as "push button, soda comes out".  It is way the hell cheaper and more space-efficient, though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on April 12, 2013, 03:56:59 PM
Cheaper in the short term, yes. Long term, not even remotely. The gas refills are priced for shit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Morat20 on April 14, 2013, 12:01:55 PM
Attempting to log into Xbox live today was another strike against me getting a 720.

It took fifteen minutes of cursing because of some bullshit Microsoft security shit. "We need another email address to verify it". "Wait, we already have that [other one]". THEN WHY THE FUCK DID YOU ASK FOR IT?

Same for a phone number for a text message. It basically sat there in a loop of fucking stupid, asking me for shit it then said it already had, and not letting me goddamn log in.

No, I had to finally get up, wander to my computer, go through two email accounts and the goddamn Xbox live page to MAYBE fix the fucking thing. And given what happened last time this shit occurred, in two days I'll have to do it again.

Here's a hint, Microsoft: If you want "always on" then logging onto your fucking service should not be akin to being punched in the dick.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on April 14, 2013, 12:03:43 PM
Probably a side-effect of the Xbox Live outage this weekend.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Morat20 on April 14, 2013, 12:19:30 PM
Probably a side-effect of the Xbox Live outage this weekend.

Which was, you know, TOTALLY not hacked. At all. Just a random service outage that's requiring us all to punch ourselves in the dicks to prove we're us.

*makes throttling motions*

I'm assuming that my Xbox has a unique serial number, one that is undoubtedly passed to MS everytime I log onto Live. So the question is, why does Microsoft not go "Hey, look, it's Morat20 logging in on the same physical platform he always logs into" and call it a day?

Sure, maybe someone stole my xbox. But that would be a seperate issue from some account hacking shit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on April 15, 2013, 08:15:09 AM
So my XBox 360 has decided it does not want to stay connected to the Internet for more than a few minutes. Oh and no matter how long I keep my wireless controller charged in, it doesn't actually work for more than a few minutes. Luckily, I have no much PC gaming goodness, I haven't really missed it. Does this sound like a precursor to bricking or just separate issues that I should probably look at separately if I was ever arsed to care?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on April 15, 2013, 09:03:41 AM
The internet I can't say.  Could be a router issue.  Old router?  Wired or wireless?  Try switching ports if wired?

The controller probably just needs a new rechargeable battery.  They do go bad after a few years.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on April 15, 2013, 10:07:48 AM
No, the router was working fine for a while. I've always had trouble with this XBox 360 (never could get the Live voice chat to work right with headphones) and it's probably just time to put a bullet in it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on April 15, 2013, 11:09:37 AM
Hmm, maybe the recent troubles is why my XBox Live account crashed and burned last weekend. Had to make a new one in the end, lost 20 hours of Dark Souls progress.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on April 15, 2013, 04:04:19 PM
Wasn't sure where to put this, so I'll just leave it here:

A large album of Star Wars Galaxies screenshots http://imgur.com/a/NiiYi#0


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on April 16, 2013, 07:43:53 AM
Great.  SWG memories.  Now I'm horribly depressed again. :cry:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shannow on April 17, 2013, 12:03:05 PM
For us sad , sad EA drones out there....

 Fifa 14 announced (duh) , new features revealed. (http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/04/17/fifa-14-new-features-revealed)

65 millions players a day huh? Damn.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on April 17, 2013, 12:27:08 PM
I immediately thought that "features" meant something like always-on DRM, we actually built an MMO in many ways kind of features. These are actual features. I'm jaded I guess.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on April 17, 2013, 12:55:09 PM
For us sad , sad EA drones out there....

 Fifa 14 announced (duh) , new features revealed. (http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/04/17/fifa-14-new-features-revealed)

65 millions players a day huh? Damn.

No no no. 65 Million games a week.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shannow on April 17, 2013, 01:15:19 PM
Ahh ok, still impressive...Im guessing that shits all over Madden.

Btw to call them features is really too kind, more like tweaks to gameplay that  75% of players wont notice


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on April 19, 2013, 08:00:32 PM
Oculus Rift + Omni Directional Treadmill + gun controller = some of the neatest VR I've seen in a while:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-04-19-team-fortress-2-played-on-omnidirectional-treadmill-and-oculus-rift


Looking impractical, but I could see it being fun.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on April 20, 2013, 03:16:00 AM
Ahh ok, still impressive...Im guessing that shits all over Madden.
Well, yeah. Most of the planet plays football, only America really plays hand-egg.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on April 25, 2013, 07:37:56 PM
Thanks to my inside connections with AMD (i.e. I have an AMD card inside my PC) I am able to bring you this F13-exlusive preview of AMD's next "Never Settle" bundle:



(http://i.imgur.com/FbZOOPH.jpg)


While the veracity cannot be confirmed yet, I really hope it is...Rome II would be a day-one purchase for me and I prolly need a new card by then anyway.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on April 25, 2013, 08:47:53 PM
AMD still makes graphics cards? I thought they all but shuttered their GPU division.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on April 25, 2013, 09:23:57 PM
AMD still makes graphics cards? I thought they all but shuttered their GPU division.

(http://i.imgur.com/09lDM3N.png)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on April 25, 2013, 10:12:04 PM
What is a "never settle" bundle?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on April 25, 2013, 10:53:11 PM
AMD still makes graphics cards? I thought they all but shuttered their GPU division.

(http://meme)

I'm completely serious. Unless I grossly misinterpreted the news, they fired many of their engineers last year, and have said multiple times, most recently in February (http://www.techpowerup.com/180009/No-New-GPUs-from-AMD-for-the-Bulk-of-2013.html), that they have no new cards coming out for nearly all of 2013, and maybe even into next year.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phred on April 26, 2013, 12:27:02 AM
AMD still makes graphics cards? I thought they all but shuttered their GPU division.

Sigh ya they still manage dispite an incompetant board.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on April 26, 2013, 03:12:34 AM
What is a "never settle" bundle?

Get free games when you buy an AMD graphic cards. For example buying a 7900 series card gets you free Farcry 3, Farcry Blood Dragon, Hitman and Sleeping Dogs. A cheaper HD 7700 still gets you Farcry 3 + Blood dragon.
-----------
I'm completely serious. Unless I grossly misinterpreted the news, they fired many of their engineers last year, and have said multiple times, most recently in February (http://www.techpowerup.com/180009/No-New-GPUs-from-AMD-for-the-Bulk-of-2013.html), that they have no new cards coming out for nearly all of 2013, and maybe even into next year.

One might even say it's the division that's doing good right now.


CPU market share
Intel: 82.5% - AMD’s 16.9%

Discrete graphic cards:
Nvida: 65.7% - AMD:35.7%

-----------

Neither Nvida nor AMD are going to launch a new series of graphic cards before Q4/2013. Both for the same reason: they are milking the market with the current generation as long as they can. AMD has the "Sea Islands" series ready, but is it holding it back until said Q4.

"Sea Islands" - codename of the the coming 8000 series - will be a refresh of the current "Southern Islands" (HD 7000) generation. Meaning no large architekture changes and the same 28 nm production process, 'just' an increase in die-size and more transistors. 3dcenter.de speculates with a 30% performance increase in the mainstream segment, ~20% for the high end series.

What Nvidia will counter with is unkown atm. They might develop a new a chip as well (although nothing said about that yet) or offer something based on the GK110 chip (which is what runs their current Titan card, selling for 1169$ at amazon.com right now.)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 26, 2013, 07:29:32 AM
What is a "never settle" bundle?

A last gasp.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phred on April 26, 2013, 12:59:37 PM
What is a "never settle" bundle?

A last gasp.
35% of the market hardly seems like a last gasp. All you people cheering for AMD to fail deserve a single chip monopoly market.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on April 26, 2013, 01:13:39 PM
Who's cheering for AMD to fail? I  certainly don't want them to, despite not having had an AMD processor for a number of years, and have avoided ATi cards like the plague.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on April 26, 2013, 01:29:31 PM
I was a big AMD fan until Intel's i-series came out; ATI cards have been shit for a while though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 26, 2013, 01:37:12 PM
I like AMD, but ATI is a pox on computing.  Ideally we won't end up with a single chip designer, for obvious reasons.

That said, I'm running Intel now because AMD seems to have dropped the ball.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Severian on April 26, 2013, 01:58:46 PM
AMD "APU"s (CPU+GPU) will be the core of both the PS4 and the next Xbox. That will keep them afloat, and make them ideal for those sweet sweet ports.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goreschach on April 26, 2013, 02:15:56 PM
Although it will make for some revenue, the profit margins on chips for consoles are extremely thin. But the real reason you aren't going to see anything major in GPUs this year is TSMC. They manufacture the chips for both NVIDIA and ATI, and their next process is still who-the-fuck-knows off. NVIDIA will apparently have a kepler refresh coming out in a few months, but performance gains likely won't amount to terribly much.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on April 26, 2013, 03:43:45 PM
Well, yeah. Since the core i7 (Nehalms, so 2008...) Intel is miles ahead of AMD in the CPU field. Regarding graphic cards AMD isn't in such a bad position. Actually I'd say right now the AMD offers are better price/value than their Nvida counterparts.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on April 26, 2013, 05:43:44 PM
Ahh ok, still impressive...Im guessing that shits all over Madden.
Well, yeah. Most of the planet plays football, only America really plays hand-egg.

Most of the planet is also poor, and we've been playing that other football in Canada for over 100 years now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phred on April 26, 2013, 06:59:34 PM
Ahh ok, still impressive...Im guessing that shits all over Madden.
Well, yeah. Most of the planet plays football, only America really plays hand-egg.

Most of the planet is also poor, and we've been playing that other football in Canada for over 100 years now.

Sadly after 100 years we're still not very good at it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 03, 2013, 08:27:21 AM
Infographic: Evolution of Game Controllers
http://www.fastcodesign.com/1672457/infographic-the-amazing-evolution-of-video-game-controllers#1


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on May 03, 2013, 09:16:59 AM
Holy cow, I forgot the Microvision.

Also, they missed the evolution of Rock Band's toys to Rocksmith's actual instrument as a controller.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 03, 2013, 09:40:41 AM
I give them a major pass for starting off with Tennis for Two.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on May 07, 2013, 12:09:42 PM
Patrice Desilets gets fired. (http://www.polygon.com/2013/5/7/4308980/patrice-desilets-departs-ubisoft-a-second-time) It makes me wonder what kind of atmosphere there was in Ubisoft when they see the need to do the "immediate termination, guards will see you out" -routine (on someone who is notable enough to make it into a news story).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on May 07, 2013, 02:58:17 PM
Didn't even know who he was. Now I do. He made "jumping off roofs with knives" simulators.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 07, 2013, 06:28:51 PM
Escorting people out is done in cases where you stole company assets or sexually harassed someone.  At least in the U.S.  I'd like to defer to our Canadian HR expert, if he is available.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on May 07, 2013, 06:37:34 PM
Patrice Desilets gets fired. (http://www.polygon.com/2013/5/7/4308980/patrice-desilets-departs-ubisoft-a-second-time) It makes me wonder what kind of atmosphere there was in Ubisoft when they see the need to do the "immediate termination, guards will see you out" -routine (on someone who is notable enough to make it into a news story).

The guy already quit Ubisoft once. He only ended up getting dragged back there after they bought the THQ studio he was working at when all of THQ's assets were being auctioned off.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Miasma on May 08, 2013, 05:10:57 AM
Escorting people out is done in cases where you stole company assets or sexually harassed someone.  At least in the U.S.  I'd like to defer to our Canadian HR expert, if he is available.
Varies based on the paranoia of the company you're with, same as the U.S. I imagine.  In IT they're more afraid that you're going to steal whatever crappy software they wrote, even though it probably wouldn't work anywhere else.  I used to work for a bank that escorted anyone in our IT group out the moment they resigned.  They just paid you for the two weeks notice or whatever you gave them.

Then people who resigned got wise and started giving four weeks notice, they got escorted out and paid for four weeks.  The last person who resigned, before they scrapped the escorting out policy, gave six months notice and they had to pay him for it :awesome_for_real:.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on May 08, 2013, 06:35:25 AM
I'm going to go give my boss my year's notice, brb.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on May 08, 2013, 07:17:16 AM
Swen Vincke, founder of Larian Studios ("Divinity" franchise) posted an interesting piece on his blog: he writes about the successful KS experience for "Original Sin"; but also, and more importantly, he expresses his feelings about the relationship with the gaming press (review style, sending out demos, bad/good publicity etc.):

http://www.lar.net/2013/05/07/being-selective/

Quote
One of the things I started wondering about throughout the campaign was who we should show our games to. You see, I used to think that you should strive for maximum exposure, and try to show your game to anybody who can hold a pen or camera. But after having talked to I guess over 200 media over the last couple of months and seeing their output, I’ve actually come to reconsider that statement.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on May 08, 2013, 09:30:20 AM
I love that line. "I saw what you did there and... NO."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 08, 2013, 03:28:01 PM
Oh, that's very interesting.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 10, 2013, 09:23:17 AM
I think that Stealth Bastard: Tactical Espionage Arsehole is one of the best names for a game ever.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on May 11, 2013, 01:51:04 PM
I think that Stealth Bastard: Tactical Espionage Arsehole is one of the best names for a game ever.

Let's kickstart it!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 13, 2013, 05:26:07 AM
I think that Stealth Bastard: Tactical Espionage Arsehole is one of the best names for a game ever.

Let's kickstart it!

http://store.steampowered.com/app/209190/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on May 13, 2013, 11:38:48 AM
That actually sounds like fun.  I do need a new thing to play.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 13, 2013, 06:24:45 PM
If you had a 360 we could play Monaco.  We need four people because we suck.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 14, 2013, 08:45:26 AM
I read a few bits about that HEX game today and I determined after 46 seconds of investigation that I need to stay far away from that shit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on May 14, 2013, 08:52:57 AM
So, you're gonna play with us? Sweet.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 14, 2013, 11:02:29 AM
PROBABLY inevitable....

I'll really miss drawing on my cards, but eh.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on May 14, 2013, 12:08:32 PM
ONE OF US

ONE OF US

ONE OF US


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on May 14, 2013, 12:18:01 PM
PROBABLY inevitable....

I'll really miss drawing on my cards, but eh.

Maybe vandalizing your cards will be a stretch goal feature.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 14, 2013, 01:51:19 PM
I absolutely will not be able to resist if that happens.  My absolute favorite was when I drew stars and an astronaut on a swamp, and titled it OUTER SPACE.  That card is still in play, in fact, and wins.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on May 14, 2013, 02:03:38 PM
I don't believe anyone in the history of Magic ever vandalized a card with anything other than a penis. Are you sure it wasn't a penis on a swamp titled OUTER DICKS?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Brofellos on May 14, 2013, 02:11:18 PM
You're forgetten tastelessly depicted anime women.  I refuse to play with basic lands that don't have art veering towards tentacle porn on them anymore.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Teleku on May 14, 2013, 02:29:28 PM
(http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/disgusted/grand/will_smith_uh_gif.gif)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on May 14, 2013, 03:47:26 PM
If you had a 360 we could play Monaco.  We need four people because we suck.

I'm interested but I don't have a 360.  I take it there's no cross-platform multiplayer?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 15, 2013, 09:33:35 AM
If you had a 360 we could play Monaco.  We need four people because we suck.

I'm interested but I don't have a 360.  I take it there's no cross-platform multiplayer?

I'm just automatically assuming XPM does not exist anywhere.

Yeah, I just invented an acronym.

I don't believe anyone in the history of Magic ever vandalized a card with anything other than a penis. Are you sure it wasn't a penis on a swamp titled OUTER DICKS?

Well, that is in fact why my cards were so awesome.  They weren't particularly artistic.  I used a ball-point pen and may have been drunk or high at the time.  That whole era of my life is a blur.  In fact, when the cards were shown to me again last year, I was astounded that I had done that.  In any case, tapping OUTER SPACE for one black mana was pretty awesome-sounding.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Arthur_Parker on May 21, 2013, 08:18:39 AM
Sorry if this has been posted before, apparently there is a rich vein of comedy related to console stuff that I've been missing out on.

Francis says FIX XBOX LIVE!!! #freeXBL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12c1rKLAeuk)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on May 21, 2013, 08:46:58 AM
Sorry if this has been posted before, apparently there is a rich vein of comedy related to console stuff that I've been missing out on.

Francis says FIX XBOX LIVE!!! #freeXBL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12c1rKLAeuk)

Funnier than it had any right to be.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on May 21, 2013, 09:47:46 AM
Dude's got a point. A sub fee just to enable Internet access is laughable. If you don't have a 360, anyway.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phred on May 21, 2013, 09:54:27 AM
Dude's got a point. A sub fee just to enable Internet access is laughable. If you don't have a 360, anyway.

Actually it was brilliant packaging by Microsoft. They managed to monetize a formerly free service for a console they had to sell at a loss to be competitive. Brilliant. And at the same time most people leap to defend the fee. Or they did until they dashboard got so cluttered in ads they can't find the launch button to play a game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on May 21, 2013, 11:04:45 AM
I would probably have an XBox if not for having to pay a fee to plug it into my own internet connection.  I can't believe anyone puts up with that foolishness.

I mean, I'm far from a Sony fanboy, but I'll say this for them: my PS3 is almost seven years old, hasn't died yet, and I don't have to pay Sony anything to watch Netflix on it.  Would buy again.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on May 21, 2013, 01:53:39 PM
The only reason I don't have one is because I was holding out on my father buying me a 360 to chat with him when he moved to Florida. Now it's too close to next gen time.

And I mostly want it for HD movies through Amazon Prime and (bleh) Madden, so no burning rush to buy one. But it would've been a PS3, most likely.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on June 04, 2013, 11:30:36 AM
So I go into the GameStop today to browse the used games pit.  The rep at the counter tells me that in about an hour, they were going to be having a 1 hour sale on Injustice: Gods Among Us.  Specifically, $50 off all versions of the game (standard, collector's, and joystick) for all platforms.  So I was excited about getting a new game for $10, right?

I went over to Moe's, had lunch, and came back right at 1PM for the start of the sale.  Apparently the way they were working it was that you order the game in the shop and it would be delivered to my house, as opposed to just, you know, taking a fresh copy off the shelf.  But whatevs, $10 fighting game.

We started the transaction process of collecting my info, and about halfway through, their ordering system starts to feel the burn of 10,000 GameStops all simultaneously ordering from the same queue.  After about half an hour of waiting for their system to respond, when it finally does come up, they say that the game is all sold out for all three systems, unless I want the fancy collectors edition with a silly statue.

I told the guy that this was the best sale ever, two thumbs up, 5 stars, would buy again, and that if they want to compete with Steam, they're going to have to do just a LITTLE better than this  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goreschach on June 04, 2013, 01:46:58 PM
So I go into the GameStop today
(http://mlkshk.com/r/8JRU)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on June 05, 2013, 07:56:42 AM
Basically the onion for gaming but fucking lol. At least someone can say it as a joke.

http://www.p4rgaming.com/kotaku-considers-taking-site-down-for-a-day-so-they-can-claim-they-went-24-hours-without-posting-bad-journalism/

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After Brian Ashcraft posted a joke tweet from Platinum’s Hideki Kamiya as legitimate news, Kotaku editor-in-chief Stephen Tolito threatened to take the site offline for a day just so they can claim they went 24 hours without posting awful journalism.

yuppp

While this is not the first time Kotaku has used Twitter as a source for their journalism, Atsushi Inaba of Platinum Games has publicly called out gaming journalism sites, including Kotaku, for using their staff member’s tweets as legitimate reporting. This has spurred Tolito to contemplate taking Kotaku offline for a day just so they can go 24 hours without embarrassing themselves.

“I was told by my boss that I have once again messed up,” wrote Ashcraft on his personal blog, “Look, I spent a long time writing the post, checking my sources and then editing thee post. What more do you want from me? Journalism is difficult. Back when I was in school, I got an A on all the papers I ever wrote. Hell, I even used Wikipedia as a source on some of them. This is just how skilled a writer I am and should be proof enough that I can do some real journalism.”

Tolito thinks otherwise writing on Kotaku, “We apologize once again for posting yet another piece of bad journalism. For years, many of you have complained that we have not gone a day without having to do a major retraction about an obviously fake rumor or just apologize for posting false news that we really should have double-checked before posting. Unfortunately, the people that we have hired are incompetent. I can’t stress this enough. The people who work at Kotaku should be fired, myself included.”

“You would think that after the hundredth time this has happened that we would have learned something by now,” lamented Tolito, “It is as if some of us lack the ability to feel shame. Maybe it was the way we grew up, being complimented by our parents no matter how shoddy our work was. I don’t even know the last time we have gone a whole day without posting something embarrassing. I think I might just shut the site down for a day just to say we have.”

Unfortunately for Tolito, it will take more than shutting down the site to help Kotaku’s reputation as staff can still post on their official Facebook page with things like a Borderlands onion ring.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on June 05, 2013, 10:36:40 AM
It's hilarious the people took his tweet as "news."

Kamiya is a well-known Twitter troll and his "next week in..." is one of his main schticks. (For those not familiar, someone will ask him something like "When will we hear more about Bayonetta 2?" and he will answer "next week in game magazines" when it is completely false)

I don't understand how people are still falling for this.  If you look at his Twitter it's clear that it's very tongue-in-cheek.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 05, 2013, 01:03:07 PM
Why can't they spell Totilo right? :(


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on June 06, 2013, 08:24:37 AM
Looks like Game Informer accidentally leaked Respawn's (former IW guys' new company) upcoming game (http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/6/4401938/respawns-first-game-is-titanfall-coming-to-xbox-one-xbox-360-and-pc), which looks like it'll be future-war CoD with mechs:

'...first-person shooter is being built on the Source engine and will launch in spring 2014. Players will become pilots controlling massive mechs called Titans, which can be piloted or programmed to follow along in battle.'


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goreschach on June 06, 2013, 11:42:45 AM
At least this one isn't using cryengine.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on June 22, 2013, 02:53:47 AM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXJKr_BP4vc

 :drill:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 02, 2013, 01:47:58 PM
Btw, Ubi got hacked. Password change emails have gone out.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on July 02, 2013, 02:38:59 PM
I got one of those, thought it was spam.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on July 02, 2013, 04:13:08 PM
Just a weird thing only learned watching an LP of the game, but you know the Syndicate FPS that got released that no one played because it was boring corridor shooter that shit all over a perfectly good license? It got double-shit upon because the main theme is a remix of the original game's music by Skrillex. Ouch.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on July 02, 2013, 07:25:10 PM
I randomly came across Planescape Torment's design document (http://www.rpgwatch.com/files/Files/00-0208/Torment_Vision_Statement_1997.pdf).  Pretty  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 03, 2013, 10:51:42 AM
Looks like Madden goes microtrans/DLC/whatever:

Quote
Madden Ultimate Team Subscription — Starting Week 1 of the NFL season and continuing through Week 17, receive one pack a week for use in Madden Ultimate Team. The Madden NFL 25 Anniversary Edition packs feature 2 rare players, 4 silver players and 4 bronze players.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on July 03, 2013, 10:54:36 AM
I randomly came across Planescape Torment's design document (http://www.rpgwatch.com/files/Files/00-0208/Torment_Vision_Statement_1997.pdf).  Pretty  :awesome_for_real:

That's pretty rad.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on July 03, 2013, 10:55:03 AM
Looks like Madden goes microtrans/DLC/whatever:

Quote
Madden Ultimate Team Subscription — Starting Week 1 of the NFL season and continuing through Week 17, receive one pack a week for use in Madden Ultimate Team. The Madden NFL 25 Anniversary Edition packs feature 2 rare players, 4 silver players and 4 bronze players.

Gotta catchbuy 'em all?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 03, 2013, 10:55:38 AM
Madden as a CCG is.... ridiculous to me.

Edit: But then, my old company pioneered that exact model with Gridiron on Facebook.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on July 03, 2013, 11:16:36 AM
Looks like Madden goes microtrans/DLC/whatever:

Quote
Madden Ultimate Team Subscription — Starting Week 1 of the NFL season and continuing through Week 17, receive one pack a week for use in Madden Ultimate Team. The Madden NFL 25 Anniversary Edition packs feature 2 rare players, 4 silver players and 4 bronze players.
That's not new. I'm certain it was in last year's but not sure if that was the first year.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on July 03, 2013, 11:27:30 AM
Madden as a CCG is.... ridiculous to me.

Edit: But then, my old company pioneered that exact model with Gridiron on Facebook.

It's something that now that I think about it, shocks me that it took them this long to come up with. Sports pretty much pioneered the idea of collectible cards in the first place, after all.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 03, 2013, 11:28:51 AM
Does that mean I can't field star players unless I buy them?

Theoretically, because fuck EA and Madden.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on July 03, 2013, 11:33:37 AM
It's only for the "Ultimate Team" thing, not regular old Madden, it seems like.

http://www.easports.com/madden-nfl/ultimate-team/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: sickrubik on July 03, 2013, 11:35:48 AM
It's only for the "Ultimate Team" thing, not regular old Madden, it seems like.

http://www.easports.com/madden-nfl/ultimate-team/

Yeah, it's basically FANTASY MADDEN FOOTBALL.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shannow on July 03, 2013, 11:35:55 AM
This is I assume the same as Fifa Ultimate Team which has been around for a couple of years.

1. You can play with all players if your playing just regular online matches or 1 player seasons etc. Ultimate cards are only used in Ultimate game modes. Usually there's a single player season and online season mode. You typically can win points in these games that can be used to buy packs , or individual cards in an auction house.

2. I'm ashamed to admit but Fifa Ultimate was fucking genius. Combining the addiction of collecting cards (maybe this pack will have Messi!) with an already decent game? Oh dear god I spent way to much money on this last year.  :oops:

3. If its like Fifa your players are under contract and you will need to feed them contract cards after a certain amount of games....players will have different levels of rareness (though with the NFL there's a much smaller pool of players to pick from so I don't know how that will work) and the very best (say a Rogers or a Brady) may end up being worth a LOT of coins...For instance a Messi or Ronaldo go for a cpl of mil each which can translate to a couple of hundred RL dollars (if you wanted to go that route)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soln on July 03, 2013, 12:24:21 PM
I randomly came across Planescape Torment's design document (http://www.rpgwatch.com/files/Files/00-0208/Torment_Vision_Statement_1997.pdf).  Pretty  :awesome_for_real:

Awesome!  Thank you.  But why does the link have 1997 and the doc has 2007 ("7/12/07") I wonder?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: sickrubik on July 03, 2013, 12:26:53 PM
I have a feeling someone put that together in 2007. Which is the only thing I can think of given the time on there as well.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on July 03, 2013, 08:42:27 PM
Anyone have any luck trading in console systems to Amazon?

My 360 is working intermittently just in time for me to want to play Bioshock:Infinite and ME3.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phred on July 04, 2013, 01:07:56 AM
I have a feeling someone put that together in 2007. Which is the only thing I can think of given the time on there as well.

I got my avatar out of that doc the last time it was posted here and while I don't remember when that was it was a lot longer ago than 2007. Here's a post from 2004 with the same avatar unless the board automatically updates them. http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=821.0


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on July 04, 2013, 04:56:49 AM
The board only knows your current avatar.  All your posts will use it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phred on July 04, 2013, 11:25:14 AM
The board only knows your current avatar.  All your posts will use it.

Ok I'm still sure my avatar is older than 2007 though :)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on July 04, 2013, 11:39:32 AM
The board automatically updates them.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on July 27, 2013, 09:49:03 AM
Dominions 4 (http://www.illwinter.com/dom4/) is being released at the end of next month and seems to promise pretty much the same as Dominions 3 did (which is a highly moddable turn-based strategy game taking lots of time and with some real hardcore fans)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on July 28, 2013, 01:42:14 PM
I found an interesting article regarding how Company of Heroes 2 takes all the Soviet/Russian military stereotypes and makes a game out of them. There's talk of it being offensive to Russians, which is of course understandable because the game is full of the kind of stupid "shallow history" that gets thrown around as insight.

But what really annoys me is that the German ubermensch stereotype always gets a free pass. The Nazis treated their own soldiers just as bad as the Soviets, but the CoH series never touches on it. I don't think a single game does, they all prefer the image created by the Rudels and Wittmanns (Hollywood style games without any attempt at historical accuracy notwithstanding).

http://www.polygon.com/2013/7/25/4553536/is-company-of-heroes-2-anti-russian


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 28, 2013, 03:22:55 PM
I'm confused. People care about being offensive to Russians?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kageru on July 28, 2013, 05:00:16 PM
Quote
“Russia now outside of Germany is our largest continental European market,” Newell was quoted as saying.

They buy things now...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on July 28, 2013, 07:23:43 PM
lol, Phil Fish got his feelings hurt by a videogame commentator, had a gigantic blowup on twitter, then cancelled Fez 2 and 'quit the industry'.

http://www.gamefront.com/did-phil-fish-just-angrily-cancel-fez-2-via-twitter/

(http://i.imgur.com/aZe3cPd.png)

Ahahahah I hope it's true. Part of me instantly wants to think he's playing at being Video Game Andy Kaufman just from his avatar but that'd really be giving him a lot of credit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on July 28, 2013, 07:44:26 PM
Yep, way to make "indie" developers not look like children Phil.

The fact these people run or are in any shape involved with an actual business is laughable.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on July 28, 2013, 07:49:14 PM
I enjoyed the bit I've played of Fez and I think it's a quality game well worth the money I paid.  It's a shame to not have Fez 2, if this is true.  


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on July 28, 2013, 07:52:17 PM
You know how you don't get abused on Twitter?

You cancel your fucking personal Twitter account like a normal person. Get a marketing shlub to run PR for your company's account and never look at it again while you rake in the cash.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 28, 2013, 08:16:18 PM
Indie Game the movie was one of the most hyperbole-filled pieces of shit I've ever seen. So, like, his response doesn't shock me at all.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on July 29, 2013, 12:43:41 AM
IG:TM looks incredibly obnoxious and cloying, a sort of distillation of the worst kind of indie pretensions.

"Ok now stare out a window and look pensive while musing about how you want to touch people on a human level with your game about farting cats."

It's a shame that a lot of the most prominent people in the indie games scene are giant douches, but I guess they become prominent largely via self-promotion so it makes sense.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on July 29, 2013, 03:44:55 AM
I'm confused. People care about being offensive to Russians?

It turns out there's life outside America after all. Who'd have thunk it?


---------


Regarding Fish, I think he's bipolar or something.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on July 29, 2013, 04:30:10 AM
Indie Game the movie was one of the most hyperbole-filled pieces of shit I've ever seen. So, like, his response doesn't shock me at all.

Yeah, they pretty much all come across as monstrous douchebags. For those who haven't seen, the main clip that's been going around in that respect is this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYpMxMPZ-Mk).


It's a shame that a lot of the most prominent people in the indie games scene are giant douches, but I guess they become prominent largely via self-promotion so it makes sense.

Well that, and if you spend five years focusing on making one video game in relative isolation your social skills probably atrophy a bit. Phil Fish is like the Dave Sim of video games. He did some brilliant work, but working on it likely drove him batshit insane.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on July 29, 2013, 07:21:44 AM
I read that the Russian government will shut down pirates via ISP cooperation now, so I think regular Russians might end up buying games for a change.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on July 29, 2013, 08:15:30 AM
You know how you don't get abused on Twitter?

You cancel your fucking personal Twitter account like a normal person. Get a marketing shlub to run PR for your company's account and never look at it again while you rake in the cash.

Or you could just not get butthurt when people criticize you on the Internet.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on July 29, 2013, 11:22:32 AM
But what really annoys me is that the German ubermensch stereotype always gets a free pass.

Yeah don't hold your breath waiting for a nuanced portrayal of Nazis in a video game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Stormwaltz on July 29, 2013, 12:25:49 PM
Or you could just not get butthurt when people criticize you on the Internet.

Personally, I would draw a line when people threaten to rape and murder my wife (http://gamerfury.tumblr.com/).

But maybe I'm oversensitive.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on July 29, 2013, 12:37:52 PM
Yes. Some might argue that Phil deserves what he gets since he threatened his ex-partner with violence as shown in the movie, if I remember correctly. However gamers are really broken when it comes to this sort of stuff. Penny Arcade has more here:

http://penny-arcade.com/report/article/swimming-in-a-sea-of-shit-the-internets-war-against-creatives


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on July 29, 2013, 12:57:47 PM
Or you could just not get butthurt when people criticize you on the Internet.

Personally, I would draw a line when people threaten to rape and murder my wife (http://gamerfury.tumblr.com/).

But maybe I'm oversensitive.

See, I don't even take those seriously because the Internet is full of hyperbolic douchenozzles who think their voice matters. Though I can see how that shit might be some folks a bit pissed. But the Fez stuff? He can take his special snowflakes and fuck right off.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on July 29, 2013, 01:06:43 PM

See, I don't even take those seriously because the Internet is full of hyperbolic douchenozzles who think their voice matters. Though I can see how that shit might be some folks a bit pissed.

I can imagine being legitimately worried.  If you're being inundated with that sort of hate mail, it has to eat at you that one of them might be a nut job who actually might hurt your family, even if 99.9999...% of them are angry 13 year olds that didn't like your video game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on July 29, 2013, 01:13:55 PM
Then you get the police involved if you are that worried. Taking your ball and going home like a child is not the way to fix that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on July 29, 2013, 01:15:05 PM
See, I don't even take those seriously because the Internet is full of hyperbolic douchenozzles who think their voice matters. Though I can see how that shit might be some folks a bit pissed.
I can imagine being legitimately worried.  If you're being inundated with that sort of hate mail, it has to eat at you that one of them might be a nut job who actually might hurt your family, even if 99.9999...% of them are angry 13 year olds that didn't like your video game.
Yes. People have shown themselves very capable of tracking down targets' personal information and it's not a big leap from there to a physical escalation. Mike Krahulik sic'd the PA mob on Ocean Marketing (http://www.penny-arcade.com/resources/an-update1.html) a few years back and this is the same sort of thing, though less organized.

Edit: fixed names


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on July 29, 2013, 01:29:19 PM
The only thing worse than twitter drama is games journos feeding on twitter drama.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on July 29, 2013, 01:48:01 PM
Then you get the police involved if you are that worried. Taking your ball and going home like a child is not the way to fix that.

I don't know that the police are going to do anything in 99% of cases of "someone threatened to kill me over the internet."

In my near total ignorance on the topic, I suspect it's less personal safety fears and more "fuck this shit" frustration.  It's one thing to be able to shrug off someone saying "fuck you" occasionally, it's another to be flooded with dozens or hundreds of messages from people who are specifically trying to piss you off, saying shit they designed to deliberately get you mad or sad or whatever, because it's mildly funny to them.  You can say "well, grow a thicker skin" but there's the counter argument that you shouldn't have to.  Dude's making video games, not deciding who lives and who dies, why should he have to put up with this shit?  Or maybe he's just bad at dealing with people in general and, realizing that, has decided that rather than fuck up by dealing with these kinds of people badly, he's just not going to deal with them at all.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on July 29, 2013, 01:57:36 PM
Here's the thing that makes Fez-boy so ridiculous. I know almost nothing about him other than he made a game and from the 5-minute clip of him talking about how "Japanese games suck" at GDC. But just from that little slice, I see a guy who thinks that he can say what he wants, no matter how insulting, about someone else's creative product but gets "take my ball and going home" whenever someone criticizes him.

If you want to talk shit, be prepared to get shit back in return. If you are going to go out there and say things like "Japanese games all suck" you better gird your loins for people saying some awful shit to you. If you can't handle what you are subjecting others to, maybe you SHOULD shut the fuck up and stay out of the public eye even if that eye is the jaundiced, Cheeto-encrusted Eye of Sauron that is the Interwebz.

None of that is to say that the rapey threats against a motherfucker's wife and kids is something one should just "brush off." The shit Fez-boy got pissed over? Not even in the same ballpark.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on July 29, 2013, 02:27:59 PM
I don't know that the police are going to do anything in 99% of cases of "someone threatened to kill me over the internet.

It depends. They would take a threat seriously if you had a reasonable belief you could be harmed. If someone uncovered information about you, and threatened you and your family directly on the internet, I think the police would at least take a look. If some random dude threatens to kill you then probably not. But then, I wouldn't be all that worried if some random Internet douche threatened to kill me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bzalthek on July 29, 2013, 02:59:54 PM
I'm kinda ok about being a dick on the internet.  We're all dicks at times.  But physical, real life threats?  That's above and beyond being a dick and I really don't think it should be tolerated.  I'm kinda conflicted.  I like anonymity of the internet and the freedom to say what you feel but I don't really think real life threats should be afforded the same protections.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Stormwaltz on July 29, 2013, 04:01:27 PM
The shit Fez-boy got pissed over? Not even in the same ballpark.

Sorry for causing a quasi-derail. I agree with this - it's not in the same ballpark. I'm not informed enough to judge Fish as a person, but he's coming off as "precious."

There are some things I can't shrug off as "eh, internet," though, and that's what I was responding to. Hate me, insult me, threaten me? I'll try to keep calm and canter on. But do the same to my family, who have nothing to do with my work aside from it paying for their food and shelter, and I will take it seriously.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on July 29, 2013, 04:04:01 PM
I'm pretty sure that given enough time to search you could find an incident of someone threatening Fish's family or pets or something.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: lamaros on July 29, 2013, 04:18:25 PM
I'm pretty sure that given enough time to search you could find an incident of someone threatening Fish's family or pets or something.

And vice versa. The guy is a thin skinned arsehole - it's not like he's an angelic snowflake who is being persecuted by the world.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Miasma on July 29, 2013, 04:22:32 PM
Fez was fun for about forty five minutes, then it got real tiresome real fast.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on July 29, 2013, 07:14:11 PM
Hipster indie trash TBH.
That game winning awards gives indie genre a bad name.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on July 29, 2013, 07:35:07 PM
For the most part the IGF Awards consist of guys giving awards to their friends.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 29, 2013, 07:42:15 PM
Correct.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on July 30, 2013, 03:08:38 AM
Realms of Arkania was just released on steam as a total pile of crap that has pretty much everything broken or unfinished  :ye_gods:
(guess it's my own fault for thinking they'd manage to do a graphically updated version of the old game and not totally muck the release)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on July 30, 2013, 04:44:24 AM
Yes. Some might argue that Phil deserves what he gets since he threatened his ex-partner with violence as shown in the movie, if I remember correctly. However gamers are really broken when it comes to this sort of stuff. Penny Arcade has more here:

http://penny-arcade.com/report/article/swimming-in-a-sea-of-shit-the-internets-war-against-creatives
Please don't ever quote Ken Buchera pieces like they're insightful or informative or well written thanks.

Also I could give a shit if a 1000 people threaten me over the internet because so far how many devs have gotten home invaded, shot, stabbed, or had a fucking pie thrown at them after they said a dumb thing and got twitter hate? Zero? I'm pretty willing to bet zero.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 30, 2013, 05:47:46 AM
I don't know if any game has been canceled because of threats, but if that were ever the case I think it should be respected.

A threat is a threat. It's bad for everyone, except eventually you Fabricated, but if you have any kind of anxiety disorder it can cripple your life no matter how real it is.
I don't like this Fish guy one bit, but threats are just disgusting and no one should question how the victim of it chooses to cope.

In fact, the point of a threat is seldom to physically harm someone, it is to inflict psychological harm and emotional distress.

Do not blame victims of violence and cowardice.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on July 30, 2013, 05:53:58 AM
I'm not victim blaming; I'm just saying that if you're going to be made neurotic by twitter threats or assholes on the internet in general you're going to have a very miserable life if you have any contact with the public at large.

Maybe it's just because I grew up with this shit. I've had idiots threatening to kill me online since I started playing counterstrike and TFC. Hell, I got a death threat or two over the phone every month when I worked for my county government as a record keeper when I'd have to dig up divorce decrees for disturbed individuals. You kinda get over it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on July 30, 2013, 11:39:57 AM
I think there's a really good chance that this is some kind of stunt in any case. Note the Andy Kaufman twitter avatar.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 30, 2013, 11:40:41 AM
It's a shitty stunt when the guy performing it is sort of a shitheel bitch and there's ample video of him behaving like a shitheel bitch.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on July 30, 2013, 11:42:06 AM
Shitheel bitches often see themselves in Kaufman.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 30, 2013, 11:42:25 AM
I feel like someone should inform them that's not how it works.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on July 30, 2013, 11:46:14 AM
If Fish wants to do the equivalent of wrestling women and being a heel in the Video Game industry he has a lot to learn, because there are a lot of people better at it than him.

Also seriously someone tell Cliffy B to fuck off of the internet and never speak again.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 30, 2013, 01:05:59 PM
Cliffy B is still alive?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on July 30, 2013, 02:06:07 PM
I'm not victim blaming; I'm just saying that if you're going to be made neurotic by twitter threats or assholes on the internet in general you're going to have a very miserable life if you have any contact with the public at large.

I don't know about that, people over the internet - especially in the gaming sphere - act like raving jackholes in a way that doesn't happen in real life often.  You can't go up to your secretary, call her an ugly cunt, say you're going to rape her daughter and that you hope she dies, and then go back to your office without expecting some serious talks with HR in your immediate future.  I don't think it's unreasonable to not want to be insulted and I can certainly empathize with someone who just decided to not deal with that level of shit.

Yes, there are some jobs where you have to deal with complete dickbags in which this kind of environment is normal, and yes, if you can't take the occasional jab without breaking down you're probably going to have trouble dealing with people.  But I don't think it follows that it's normal or excusable to act like that, or that normal people should be expected to just put up with it.

(I suppose this is less in line with the whole Fish thing, which I think has a history I don't know much about, and more to do with the general atmosphere of WTF that's been sloshed in to the same bucket in a lot of news stories and podcasts, like the CoD patch notes that resulted in the community rep getting death threats for making balance changes)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on July 30, 2013, 02:48:05 PM
I'm not victim blaming; I'm just saying that if you're going to be made neurotic by twitter threats or assholes on the internet in general you're going to have a very miserable life if you have any contact with the public at large.

Or, you know, just not have a Twitter account. I honestly don't see why that's not an option for these jackholes instead of just cancelling the game. How often do you have to deal with the raving nutjobs if you aren't on twitter or forums?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on July 30, 2013, 03:32:57 PM
Social media is, generally speaking, a net marketing plus, even with the troll population.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on July 30, 2013, 03:44:26 PM
It's posted on the Polytron website (http://polytroncorporation.com/fez-ii-cancelled) so unless it's an elaborate hoax it's true.

I'm not too sad about it, although I seem to be the only one that didn't find Fez that amazing (though it could be indie platformer fatigue). 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on July 30, 2013, 04:16:10 PM
Social media is, generally speaking, a net marketing plus, even with the troll population.

Based on what exactly? How is the head of the company being on Twitter do anything but open you up for the scenario we see here, or them saying something even dumber off the cuff and damaging the brand?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on July 30, 2013, 04:58:00 PM
This is a bit of a special case, because he's Phil Fish and odds are he's trolling everyone to start with. A counter-example would be how much goodwill Mark Rosewater's blog and twitter account generate for Magic. When done right it's a big enough positive that almost everyone will try to do it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on July 30, 2013, 06:01:48 PM
Social media is, generally speaking, a net marketing plus, even with the troll population.

This. You can't be an indie without a social presence and it is a HUGE audience builder for someone who is never going to get an audience otherwise.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on July 30, 2013, 08:17:58 PM
I don't know about that, people over the internet - especially in the gaming sphere - act like raving jackholes in a way that doesn't happen in real life often.  You can't go up to your secretary, call her an ugly cunt, say you're going to rape her daughter and that you hope she dies, and then go back to your office without expecting some serious talks with HR in your immediate future.  I don't think it's unreasonable to not want to be insulted and I can certainly empathize with someone who just decided to not deal with that level of shit.

Internet hate is easy to propagate but also easy to ignore.

Look, if you are in any way a public figure someone somewhere is going to say a mean thing about you. Using that as an excuse to quit, to claim that there is some sort of war against "creatives" (is this war more or less hard fought than the war against Christmas?) or whatever the fuck is pathetic and lazy.

Ben Kuchera is an asshole and a bully. Phil Fish is an asshole and a bully. These are two of the last guys who should be complaining about mean people. "Asshole's feelings hurt by other assholes." Who cares? Ben Kuchera went on a Twitter tirade a while back about how someone should become broke and penniless for writing an article an emulation. Now I'm supposed to feel sorry for him and his friends?

That's not to say assholes making threats are in the right, but at the end of the day I find it hard to care, especially when the people complaining about them are doing the same things themselves.

"Phil Fish upset other people on internet acting like Phil Fish."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 30, 2013, 08:38:26 PM
I just want to say I fully support Fab's pie-throwing mafia initiative.

Should probably also pack a squirting flower just to be safe.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on August 12, 2013, 07:25:01 PM
Quote
Stardock is pleased to announce that it has secured Atari's rights to the classic franchise, Star Control with the intent to develop a new Star Control game. Development on the new game would begin this Fall with a release date to be determined later.

"We would be looking at Star Control 2 as a major source of inspiration," said Brad Wardell, President & CEO of Stardock.

Welp.

Edit: Oh, I guess this happened in late July.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on August 12, 2013, 08:04:46 PM
Star Control... Brad Wardell, President & CEO of Stardock.

SOME *CAMPERS* ARE NOT SO GOOD FOR *GAMES*


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ezrast on August 13, 2013, 11:35:21 AM
Whoa, that is out of left field. I was under the impression that the rights to Star Control were, like, irretrievably fragmented between multiple defunct companies. Atari's just been sitting on them? I guess it's a cult-y enough classic that there isn't a ton of marketing value to be gained there but it's still strange that that corpse has gone relatively unhumped until now.

I should get around to finishing SC2.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on August 13, 2013, 11:56:39 AM
There's a bunch of stuff they don't have control over still I believe - I'm pretty sure that the only thing Stardock actually bought was the name and maybe the new stuff from SC 3.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: shiznitz on August 15, 2013, 11:11:15 AM
All they need is the name.  What other value is there?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on August 16, 2013, 07:53:14 AM
Jennifer Hepler, the writer that everyone in videogame fandom hates for some reason or another has quit Bioware, partially due to the various death threats she has gotten. (http://metro.co.uk/2013/08/16/bioware-writer-quits-after-death-threats-to-family-3925970/)

Polygon also mentions this but quotes her as saying that she was mostly quitting to write a book.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Reg on August 16, 2013, 09:16:23 AM
So why do people hate her?  Does she write legitimately awful stories destroying beloved characters or is this just an over-reaction from the Tali Sweat Gang?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on August 16, 2013, 09:24:40 AM

This xbox thingy where they give you 2 games free every month is getting good.  I just got Dead Rising 2 and that thingy what goes with it, which I have but haven't played on the PC.  I'd probably like it better on the xbox anyway.  Last time I got Crackdown, dunno what that is yet and before that, Assassin's Creed 2 - which I have for PC and hardly played too.   I noticed, however, that there's all these Dungeon and Dragon games that I've never heard of... what are they?  Like little campaigns from the olden days?  Or are they full sized rpg games?  Maybe this is why I like the 360 so much.  The first and sixteenth of every month is like xmas.  They've also announced Diablo 3 for the xbox.  I don't know if it's ready or not.  I do know how much everyone loved it.  :p  Including me... I think I played it for several hours before giving it away.  I don't think I'll be buying that one for the 360!

I'm so glad everyone here using the name 360.  I keep forgetting which letter gets capitalised.

You can call me Chuck.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on August 16, 2013, 09:39:39 AM
The Capcom D&D games are old arcade games, basically fantasy versions of Final Fight.

There are also some vaguely Diablo-style D&D games on XBLA I think. Not sure if those are actually D&D games officially or not.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on August 16, 2013, 09:55:49 AM
Jennifer Hepler, the writer that everyone in videogame fandom hates for some reason or another has quit Bioware, partially due to the various death threats she has gotten. (http://metro.co.uk/2013/08/16/bioware-writer-quits-after-death-threats-to-family-3925970/)

Polygon also mentions this but quotes her as saying that she was mostly quitting to write a book.

The US government really needs to get off their asses about this stuff. There needs to be serious repercussions to people who make death threats on the internet, in any form.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on August 16, 2013, 10:03:03 AM
All they need is the name.  What other value is there?
The races and the ships.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Stormwaltz on August 16, 2013, 10:04:09 AM
Jennifer Hepler, the writer that everyone in videogame fandom hates for some reason or another has quit Bioware, partially due to the various death threats she has gotten. (http://metro.co.uk/2013/08/16/bioware-writer-quits-after-death-threats-to-family-3925970/)

The death threats were not a factor in her decision to leave. She's emailed Metro with a correction.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 16, 2013, 10:08:07 AM
A writer everyone hates quit their job to write.

I uh, what?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 16, 2013, 10:12:04 AM
(ASSUME ANY LINK TO ED IS NSFW) https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Jennifer_Hepler

lol


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on August 16, 2013, 10:18:11 AM
Jennifer Hepler, the writer that everyone in videogame fandom hates for some reason or another has quit Bioware, partially due to the various death threats she has gotten. (http://metro.co.uk/2013/08/16/bioware-writer-quits-after-death-threats-to-family-3925970/)

Polygon also mentions this but quotes her as saying that she was mostly quitting to write a book.

The US government really needs to get off their asses about this stuff. There needs to be serious repercussions to people who make death threats on the internet, in any form.

Threats of any kind should be harshly dealt with by the law.  General douchbaggery should not, though some countries (like the UK) are prosecuting people for being dicks online.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on August 16, 2013, 10:31:42 AM
Like I said before, I don't believe in laws anymore.  I think a group of people from one side of the issue should get together and duke it out with the other side and eat the bodies and when there's no one left, there will be many happy people.  I call this the Shut the fuck up and die you motherfucking retard method.  I tested it on fish.  It works. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on August 16, 2013, 10:51:36 AM
I don't really think the government should be in the business investigating random non-specific death threats from online trolls and assholes after a kid got jailed for joking on League of Legends that he was going to "Shoot up his school" and "eat everyone's still-beating hearts" (which is punctuated with "lol, jk").

What a fucking waste of time and resources.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on August 16, 2013, 11:06:57 AM
Like I said before, I don't believe in laws anymore.  I think a group of people from one side of the issue should get together and duke it out with the other side and eat the bodies and when there's no one left, there will be many happy people.  I call this the Shut the fuck up and die you motherfucking retard method.  I tested it on fish.  It works. 

Until the point that the strongest people get together and decide they are in charge.  Those strong people, they're not very nice at all.

I don't really think the government should be in the business investigating random non-specific death threats from online trolls and assholes after a kid got jailed for joking on League of Legends that he was going to "Shoot up his school" and "eat everyone's still-beating hearts" (which is punctuated with "lol, jk").

What a fucking waste of time and resources.

Until it turns out, oh it wasn't LOL JK and now your kid/ wife/ dog is dead.  So yeah, I'm fine with it.

In fact I'm all for throwing more of them in jail while freeing the potheads because only one of those groups was being a disruptive with demonstrated lack of impulse control and understanding of what a fucktard they're being. Plus the internet attitude of making tough-guy threats is toxic and doesn't belong in a society. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on August 16, 2013, 11:19:16 AM
I suck at being an internet bully.  No one takes me seriously.  I think it's because of all the  :heart: s in my posts.  I'm also a really polite anarchist.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on August 16, 2013, 11:22:00 AM
Until it turns out, oh it wasn't LOL JK and now your kid/ wife/ dog is dead.  So yeah, I'm fine with it.

In fact I'm all for throwing more of them in jail while freeing the potheads because only one of those groups was being a disruptive with demonstrated lack of impulse control and understanding of what a fucktard they're being. Plus the internet attitude of making tough-guy threats is toxic and doesn't belong in a society.  
It'd be worth having someone get blown up every now and then to not have to waste the police's time with every internet troll who ever posted an anonymous death threat or some stupid shit in a comment field or over email or whatever. Also what are you going to do if they reside in a different country?

Again: A complete waste of time.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on August 16, 2013, 12:52:17 PM
I'm not sure you'd feel the same if internet whackjobs threatened your family over a game. I certainly wouldn't.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on August 16, 2013, 12:54:17 PM
Blow up his family and find out.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on August 16, 2013, 01:05:36 PM
I'm not sure you'd feel the same if internet whackjobs threatened your family over a game. I certainly wouldn't.
I've had a complete whackjob who used to be my friend in K-12 literally threaten me and my family in the last year, the police didn't really do anything about it, and I don't particularly care because hey, I'm still here aren't I?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on August 16, 2013, 01:26:23 PM
Well that's horrible.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tazelbain on August 16, 2013, 01:32:18 PM
Like I said before, I don't believe in laws anymore.  I think a group of people from one side of the issue should get together and duke it out with the other side and eat the bodies and when there's no one left, there will be many happy people.  I call this the Shut the fuck up and die you motherfucking retard method.  I tested it on fish.  It works.  
Do you get in a lot of disagreements with fish?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Salamok on August 16, 2013, 01:33:35 PM
So why do people hate her?  Does she write legitimately awful stories destroying beloved characters or is this just an over-reaction from the Tali Sweat Gang?

IIRC wasn't she the dumbass writer that was quoted as thinking video games are stupid or some equally stupid remark that was sure to alienate her from the audience she was hired to write for?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on August 16, 2013, 01:47:49 PM
She said the least favorite thing for her working in the industry was playing the games, and that she would like to fast forward through combat.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Stormwaltz on August 16, 2013, 01:51:20 PM
IIRC wasn't she the dumbass writer that was quoted as thinking video games are stupid or some equally stupid remark that was sure to alienate her from the audience she was hired to write for?

Someone dug up an interview from years previous in which she said she had trouble with combat and preferred the talky bits, and since she was a lead on DA2 and they "didn't like" combat in DA2, she was obviously responsible for making it suck.

You know, internet logic.

Also, Jenny does not silently suffer bullshit. So when she retorted, internet people got all "How dare she talk back to us?"

You know, internet treatment of women.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on August 16, 2013, 02:03:13 PM
The Internet is a true festering gob of pretend villainy and anonymous horribleness.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Salamok on August 16, 2013, 02:08:26 PM
She said the least favorite thing for her working in the industry was playing the games, and that she would like to fast forward through combat.

Not as bad as I thought, still not the smoothest quote.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Reg on August 16, 2013, 02:42:30 PM
So she's getting all of this crap because she likes the story part better than the shooty part?  Sheesh, her and millions of other women out there. Unless someone has a legitimate problem with her writing I'm goiing to assume this is all internet douchebaggery.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ragnoros on August 16, 2013, 02:46:51 PM
So she's getting all of this crap because she likes the story part better than the shooty part?  Sheesh, her and millions of other women out there. Unless someone has a legitimate problem with her writing I'm going to assume this is all internet douchebaggery.

This is always a safe assumption.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 16, 2013, 05:39:37 PM
I just picked up Scrolls because one of my old friends said I shouldn't think about it as a CCG or anything like that, rather to think of it as a sort of HoMaM with Deckbuilding.

I hope it's not that. Or I will make him give me $20 I didn't really have. Weeeeeeee.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 16, 2013, 05:56:02 PM
Sounds fishy.  Like fish-in-a-can fishy.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 16, 2013, 06:05:13 PM
It's not quite HoMaM/King's Bounty. But it's not quite Magic either. I don't know what's going on here yet. It's certainly not fucking Minecraft though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Morat20 on August 16, 2013, 08:07:15 PM
So she's getting all of this crap because she likes the story part better than the shooty part?  Sheesh, her and millions of other women out there. Unless someone has a legitimate problem with her writing I'm goiing to assume this is all internet douchebaggery.
Offhand, if I was female? i doubt I'd ever read a damn thing in comments. Ever.

More than raging douchbaggery, there is incredibly misogyny.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on August 17, 2013, 07:08:08 AM
The Internet is a true festering gob of pretend villainy and anonymous horribleness.
Mind you, so's The Metro and yet people believed what they printed.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on August 20, 2013, 07:46:41 AM
Will the new xBox One controller work on the 360?  It looks peachy.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on August 20, 2013, 07:56:45 AM
I just picked up Scrolls because one of my old friends said I shouldn't think about it as a CCG or anything like that, rather to think of it as a sort of HoMaM with Deckbuilding.

I hope it's not that. Or I will make him give me $20 I didn't really have. Weeeeeeee.

I've been playing it a bit, it's not very sticky. There's some fun ideas in there, but the fact that there are only three decks, and only about 50(ish) cards for each means that the depth and variety are pretty limited. After about a dozen games you've seen 99% of the game, or so I felt.

It's also kinda grindy to get cards.

edit: For comparison, Hearthstone apparently has 489 cards straight out of the gate, more than treble what scrolls has after months of beta.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 20, 2013, 08:21:46 AM
Yea Scrolls isn't exactly the best thing ever. In fact, I'm not even sure its good or should have any sort of continued development.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on August 20, 2013, 09:16:02 AM
Might & Magic X on steam!
...it's early access  :oh_i_see:
...it's 29,99€   :oh_i_see:
...requires Uplay  :uhrr:

Guess I'll check back when it's ready to release if it's so good that I'll get it despite Uplay  :heartbreak:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Selby on August 20, 2013, 01:46:09 PM
Might & Magic X on steam!
After the abortion that was IX, I'll never pay full price or first day release for that series, despite another publisher and development team.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on August 20, 2013, 10:57:36 PM
Other than a one time activation, M&M X doesn't require UPlay.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on August 21, 2013, 01:33:27 AM
The fact they charged your credit card immediately and you still gotta call them and tell them you actually bought AND PLAYING it is pretty much nonsensical to me.
But fuck it, I never enjoyed Might & Magic.
Fuck nostalgia.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on August 21, 2013, 02:53:10 AM
The fact they charged your credit card immediately and you still gotta call them and tell them you actually bought AND PLAYING it is pretty much nonsensical to me.
But fuck it, I never enjoyed Might & Magic.
Fuck nostalgia.


Might&Magic is probably my all-time favourite western rpg series except for IX (Suikoden being my favourite Japanese rpg series...except for IV).
and in both cases I mean the games in the original series and not heroes or tactics or anything like that


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lemming on August 22, 2013, 10:58:26 PM
Might & Magic X on steam!
...it's early access  :oh_i_see:
...it's 29,99€   :oh_i_see:
...requires Uplay  :uhrr:

Guess I'll check back when it's ready to release if it's so good that I'll get it despite Uplay  :heartbreak:
It's also grid based and has "tactical combat."  They are attempting to channel M&M IV and V with this one, and good luck to them.  There is a niche market out there who enjoy this type of RPG experience, myself included.  If they can get beyond the bugs and the angry fans demanding M&M: Skyrim, they may carve out a nice little spot for themselves in the market.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on August 23, 2013, 12:47:35 AM
Might & Magic X on steam!
...it's early access  :oh_i_see:
...it's 29,99€   :oh_i_see:
...requires Uplay  :uhrr:

Guess I'll check back when it's ready to release if it's so good that I'll get it despite Uplay  :heartbreak:
It's also grid based and has "tactical combat."  They are attempting to channel M&M IV and V with this one, and good luck to them.  There is a niche market out there who enjoy this type of RPG experience, myself included.  If they can get beyond the bugs and the angry fans demanding M&M: Skyrim, they may carve out a nice little spot for themselves in the market.

I didn'y mention those since I don't consider them things that would make me skip the game (also didn't mention the fact that there is no "front/back row" anymore with all 4 (instead of 6) characters being in the front because while I think I don't like it I can't be sure without trying it first)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on August 23, 2013, 06:50:07 PM
Actually M&M X looks like Dungeon Master.  Grimrock to you goddamn kids.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maledict on August 24, 2013, 07:24:11 AM
Um, not really.

M&M was grid based and turn based for years before it made the jump to proper 3D in M&M6. The fact it's turn based separates it from Dngeon Master as it completely changes how combat works. Back in the days when grid based dungeon crawlers were all the rage, the difference between Real-Time and turn based was the key divider line between games.

Of course, Dungeon Master remains the best dungeon crawling game ever made but for me its always been M&M3 that held a soft spot in my heart of the turn based games. I hope the new one really captures that sense of epic scale the good M&M games had - traversing an entire continent with different landscapes and monsters.

(I also wish they would delink from the heroes games a bit more. M&Ms best monsters don't fit into the heroes games so don't appear in this or the card game or any of the other stuff they have out out which is a shame as they were one of the things that separated M&M from other fantasy games).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on August 24, 2013, 07:34:40 AM
Eye of the Beholder?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on August 24, 2013, 11:39:18 AM
Dungeon Master would be the best game ever, if I could have figured out how to defeat the last boss.   :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maledict on August 24, 2013, 04:18:37 PM
Eye of the Beholder was great (and the sequel even better) but Dungeon Master really  was in a class of its own. The game basically sold the Atari ST for a couple of years.

And re. The last boss, do you mean the dragon or Lord Chaos?

The dragon could be killed a number of ways. Obviously you could ballet dance into death although it was incredibly fast and deadly. You could stair dance it also. Easiest was was to use the freeze time boxes you had picked up throughout the game and then drop as many level 6 poison clouds on it as possible. It had no resistance to poison.

If you mean Lord Chaos, then you needed the upgrade flux staff from level 14 after killing the dragon. You have to have him in a flux cage and then use the fuse ability. The problem was he would always move out of that, so the solution was to cage him in flux cages - he couldn't move into a square with a cage, so if you surrounded him with them you could then fuse his ass and win the game. It wasnt possible to neat him via normal means, and the other monsters on his level (the black flames etc) would always regenerate.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phred on August 27, 2013, 03:56:19 AM
Eye of the Beholder was great (and the sequel even better) but Dungeon Master really  was in a class of its own. The game basically sold the Atari ST for a couple of years.

And re. The last boss, do you mean the dragon or Lord Chaos?

The dragon could be killed a number of ways. Obviously you could ballet dance into death although it was incredibly fast and deadly. You could stair dance it also. Easiest was was to use the freeze time boxes you had picked up throughout the game and then drop as many level 6 poison clouds on it as possible. It had no resistance to poison.

If you mean Lord Chaos, then you needed the upgrade flux staff from level 14 after killing the dragon. You have to have him in a flux cage and then use the fuse ability. The problem was he would always move out of that, so the solution was to cage him in flux cages - he couldn't move into a square with a cage, so if you surrounded him with them you could then fuse his ass and win the game. It wasnt possible to neat him via normal means, and the other monsters on his level (the black flames etc) would always regenerate.

I remember beating DM1 and feeling pretty good about myself then DM2 I couldn't last 40 ft into the damn dungeon :(


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on August 27, 2013, 05:18:29 AM
Eye of the Beholder was great (and the sequel even better) but Dungeon Master really  was in a class of its own. The game basically sold the Atari ST for a couple of years.

And re. The last boss, do you mean the dragon or Lord Chaos?

The dragon could be killed a number of ways. Obviously you could ballet dance into death although it was incredibly fast and deadly. You could stair dance it also. Easiest was was to use the freeze time boxes you had picked up throughout the game and then drop as many level 6 poison clouds on it as possible. It had no resistance to poison.

If you mean Lord Chaos, then you needed the upgrade flux staff from level 14 after killing the dragon. You have to have him in a flux cage and then use the fuse ability. The problem was he would always move out of that, so the solution was to cage him in flux cages - he couldn't move into a square with a cage, so if you surrounded him with them you could then fuse his ass and win the game. It wasnt possible to neat him via normal means, and the other monsters on his level (the black flames etc) would always regenerate.

This entire statement is why the terrorists hate us.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lemming on August 27, 2013, 05:24:47 AM
Eye of the Beholder was great (and the sequel even better) but Dungeon Master really  was in a class of its own. The game basically sold the Atari ST for a couple of years.

And re. The last boss, do you mean the dragon or Lord Chaos?

The dragon could be killed a number of ways. Obviously you could ballet dance into death although it was incredibly fast and deadly. You could stair dance it also. Easiest was was to use the freeze time boxes you had picked up throughout the game and then drop as many level 6 poison clouds on it as possible. It had no resistance to poison.

If you mean Lord Chaos, then you needed the upgrade flux staff from level 14 after killing the dragon. You have to have him in a flux cage and then use the fuse ability. The problem was he would always move out of that, so the solution was to cage him in flux cages - he couldn't move into a square with a cage, so if you surrounded him with them you could then fuse his ass and win the game. It wasnt possible to neat him via normal means, and the other monsters on his level (the black flames etc) would always regenerate.

This entire statement is why the terrorists hate us.
Because we owned consoles and games in the 80s and because we talk about strategies on killing dragons and lords?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maledict on August 27, 2013, 05:42:30 AM
Eye of the Beholder was great (and the sequel even better) but Dungeon Master really  was in a class of its own. The game basically sold the Atari ST for a couple of years.

And re. The last boss, do you mean the dragon or Lord Chaos?

The dragon could be killed a number of ways. Obviously you could ballet dance into death although it was incredibly fast and deadly. You could stair dance it also. Easiest was was to use the freeze time boxes you had picked up throughout the game and then drop as many level 6 poison clouds on it as possible. It had no resistance to poison.

If you mean Lord Chaos, then you needed the upgrade flux staff from level 14 after killing the dragon. You have to have him in a flux cage and then use the fuse ability. The problem was he would always move out of that, so the solution was to cage him in flux cages - he couldn't move into a square with a cage, so if you surrounded him with them you could then fuse his ass and win the game. It wasnt possible to neat him via normal means, and the other monsters on his level (the black flames etc) would always regenerate.

This entire statement is why the terrorists hate us.

I was so oddly proud for remembering that!

But, on the other hand, dungeon master was the single game that defined my childhood. I completed it multiple times and its what got me into RPGs in general. I cant remember crap from other games I played at the time.

(Other than treasure island dizzy being an ass for killing me for dropping the snorkel underwater!)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on August 27, 2013, 07:58:11 AM
I couldn't figure out the flux cages.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on August 27, 2013, 01:53:18 PM
But, on the other hand, dungeon master was the single game that defined my childhood. I completed it multiple times and its what got me into RPGs in general. I cant remember crap from other games I played at the time.

Same here, although I would add Bard's Tale I and Ultima IV to the list. Regarding Lord Chaos, beside the fluxcage spamming, I distinctly remember that I couldn't figure out the "ZoKathRa" spell (which allows you to free the power gem you then put on the firestaff). Err, I thought Zokathra was a proper name, so me and my father spent hours on the last level after we killed the damn dragon (with the endless ballet dance tactic) :P



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on August 27, 2013, 01:58:26 PM
ADVENT (Adventure, Colossal Cave, etc) on the mainframe at my grandfather's office was the one that captivated me (xyzzy, plugh etc). Then it was a couple years of AD&D and Atari's Adventure until I got a C-64 for programming and a copy of Ultima IV.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on August 27, 2013, 03:48:34 PM
Eye of the Beholder was great (and the sequel even better) but Dungeon Master really  was in a class of its own. The game basically sold the Atari ST for a couple of years.
That's because the ST was shit and real gamers had an Amiga.  :grin:

And I really wish someone would unfuck the legal minefield around EotB. A couple of years ago I'd have just written it off as impossible but we've had a whole bunch of 'impossible' things show up on GoG (etc) or had the licences finally sold on in that timeframe, so maybe one day....


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on August 27, 2013, 03:55:27 PM
Eye of the Beholder was great (and the sequel even better) but Dungeon Master really  was in a class of its own. The game basically sold the Atari ST for a couple of years.
That's because the ST was shit and real gamers had an Amiga.  :grin:

And I really wish someone would unfuck the legal minefield around EotB. A couple of years ago I'd have just written it off as impossible but we've had a whole bunch of 'impossible' things show up on GoG (etc) or had the licences finally sold on in that timeframe, so maybe one day....

I think I already  :mob: you in another topic about the Atari ST vs Amiga debate  :grin:, but anyway I'll put on my broken record as well since I hope GoG wil finally unravel all the legal problems concerning the entire SSI AD&D catalog (yeah, there are plenty abandonware sites where you can download them, but still...): beside the gold box ones, I want Ravenloft and Dark Sun too  :heart:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on August 27, 2013, 03:56:01 PM
Possible seizure alert:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on August 27, 2013, 05:43:53 PM
I'm not a huge fan of overblown particle effects. That seems to be one of this upcoming generations big thing. (See Killer Instinct for example)

As far as Eye of the Beholder - it was a pretty shitty game. Does not hold up at all. The PC version had some awesome graphics at the time though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on August 30, 2013, 12:55:38 PM
BG:EE is back on sale, btw. And in other news: http://www.baldursgateii.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bHwTDl231A

November 15th.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on September 03, 2013, 06:13:36 AM
Space Hulk: Deathwing - teaser (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Nr1zMtEsJQ&feature=player_embedded#t=0)  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on September 03, 2013, 08:29:09 AM
Space Hulk: Deathwing - teaser (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Nr1zMtEsJQ&feature=player_embedded#t=0)  :oh_i_see:
Was this winner in a useless contest?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Strazos on September 03, 2013, 11:37:48 AM
BG:EE is back on sale, btw. And in other news: http://www.baldursgateii.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bHwTDl231A

November 15th.

Great, now I need to buy this for a third time as well.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on September 10, 2013, 08:01:21 AM
Is there a reason that video game streamers on Twitch don't greenscreen advertising into the background of their little web cams?

Also - I wish Twitch gave an option to selectively mute only the talking audio.  I'd still like the game audio to come through, just not some of these idiots.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on September 10, 2013, 01:03:43 PM
For those interested, Fifa 14 demo is now available on Origin.

In related news, the XBox demo for PES 2014 should now be available; not sure about Playstation. The PC demo will be available on release day (sigh).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ezrast on September 10, 2013, 07:11:37 PM
Is there a reason that video game streamers on Twitch don't greenscreen advertising into the background of their little web cams?
That would require them to a) be capable of decent videography, b) work out their own advertising deals, and c) be good at video games. The intersection of all three is empty except for organized teams, who do often have sponsor logos on their streams.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on September 11, 2013, 07:57:37 AM
Maybe you've already talked about this in other topics, but I've just read about this little program:

http://www.davidwaltersdevelopment.com/tools/gridcart/

Still have to try it out, but I guess it should come quite handy when you are in the mood for some old-school RPGs, planning PnP maps and so on.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on September 11, 2013, 03:49:29 PM
Maybe you've already talked about this in other topics, but I've just read about this little program:

http://www.davidwaltersdevelopment.com/tools/gridcart/

Still have to try it out, but I guess it should come quite handy when you are in the mood for some old-school RPGs, planning PnP maps and so on.
Thanks, I've been looking for something like this for D&D for a while now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on September 12, 2013, 04:20:53 PM
What was the deal with Card Hunter (http://www.cardhunter.com/game-info/), seems like a PVE card game?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on September 13, 2013, 12:56:23 PM
Five minutes into Rogue Legacy and I'm in love with the game:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/85916/rogue_legacy_barfsville.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on September 13, 2013, 01:58:47 PM
Anyone familiar with the Windows versions of the old Legacy of Kain games? GOG has Soul Reaver 1, 2, Blood Omen 2, and LoK: Defiance on sale as part of some Square weekend deal, and I've heard that Soul Reaver 1 had some control issues.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on September 13, 2013, 03:27:10 PM
Anyone familiar with the Windows versions of the old Legacy of Kain games? GOG has Soul Reaver 1, 2, Blood Omen 2, and LoK: Defiance on sale as part of some Square weekend deal, and I've heard that Soul Reaver 1 had some control issues.

Yeah, the controls are pretty ass, as far as I can see.  I haven't found a way to get the game to recognize a gamepad, and the game also doesn't want to use the mouse (if I recall correctly) so everything from movement to camera rotation is handled by key commands, which leads to some awkward finger gymnastics on the jumps.  It's beatable, but pretty awkward in places.  Haven't played the others in years, but I recall SR2 being way better in that area.

edit: no, I tell a lie, I just checked and the game does recognize my gamepad, but there's something incredibly screwed up with the calibration.  Tell the guy to move left and he moves left, and keeps moving left even if I release the stick.  Even when I set it to digital mode, controlling the game with the d-pad, it does this.  Weird.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 13, 2013, 03:35:57 PM
Five minutes into Rogue Legacy and I'm in love with the game:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/85916/rogue_legacy_barfsville.jpg)
Yea, it's basically the last Castlevania game I'll ever need to play.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on September 13, 2013, 03:55:12 PM
That seems like it would be more annoying than fun.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on September 16, 2013, 12:56:28 PM
It's only annoying until you die, which given that affliction is guaranteed to be soon.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ragnoros on September 16, 2013, 01:07:57 PM
I actually managed to survive for 15-20 minutes with the vertigo trait, clearing out the castle, forest, and a bit of maya. Upon my next heir I felt like I was falling the wrong direction. It was an odd sensation.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on September 16, 2013, 01:27:46 PM
It was basically the first guy I played.  I did not fare well.

The architect gives an interesting strategic choice regarding upgrades.  However I still need monies for upgrades.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on September 23, 2013, 08:57:44 PM
Not sure if anyone here played Zettai Hero Project: Unlosing Ranger vs. Darkdeath Evilman, the PSP Japanese Roguelike with the ridiculous long name, but it seems they made a sequel, Guided Fate Paradox (http://nisamerica.com/games/guided_fate_paradox/) which will be releasing stateside 11/5 on the PS3. Pretty psyched, as ZHP was basically Disgaea crossed with a Roguelike, and one of the coolest games I played towards the end of the PSP's life cycle.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Quinton on September 24, 2013, 12:26:00 AM
It was basically the first guy I played.  I did not fare well.

The architect gives an interesting strategic choice regarding upgrades.  However I still need monies for upgrades.

I primarily use the architect to go after fairy chests that need an ability I didn't have to get at or to repeat boss battles after dying horribly.

For regular dungeon crawling I prefer maximum cash reward.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on September 24, 2013, 08:09:10 AM
Yeah, those fairy chests.  WHEEEE.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on September 26, 2013, 01:41:54 PM
They have finally set a date to auction off the (rotten) corpse of 38 studios (http://www.hgpauction.com/auctions/29297/38-studios/). I'm genuinely interested to see if someone will make an offer that is actually enough to make the sale go thru.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on September 26, 2013, 01:57:08 PM
They have finally set a date to auction off the (rotten) corpse of 38 studios (http://www.hgpauction.com/auctions/29297/38-studios/). I'm genuinely interested to see if someone will make an offer that is actually enough to make the sale go thru.

Most interesting thing in that lot is the Rise of Nations IP.   I wouldn't mind seeing someone pick that up to make a sequel.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on September 27, 2013, 01:02:47 PM
I wonder how much of the tech for the MMO was finished. If it was reasonably solid would it be a good investment to basically buy it for lead time?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on September 27, 2013, 01:14:54 PM
For pennies on the dollar, could be.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on October 15, 2013, 12:58:43 PM
Ubisoft wises up to the fact that they have two major IPs launching on the same day, delays Watch Dogs to spring 2014.  I know I was planning on purchasing it and not AC4 because of how closely they were launching.  Now, maybe they'll get my day one AC4 purchase, too.  Maybe.

http://kotaku.com/watch-dogs-delayed-until-spring-2014-1445647171


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 15, 2013, 11:30:38 PM
Ohgodidontcareaboutfuckingac4


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on October 16, 2013, 12:41:22 AM
After the clusterfuck that was AC3, I have no trust in Ubisoft. Especially given that 4 is an obvious rush job.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on October 16, 2013, 04:31:56 AM
So they delay the only IP people care about to be able to launch AC4 an IP nobody really gives a shit about anymore?

Sounds like great marketing


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on October 16, 2013, 04:57:50 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if the game just plain wasn't finished either. Guess it's time to edit the front page calendar.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on October 16, 2013, 07:53:57 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if the game just plain wasn't finished either. Guess it's time to edit the front page calendar.

I would be more surprised is the game WAS finished based on the feedback from AC3. I also could not give two rat fucks about any Assassin's Creed game. Bring on Watch Dogs - though if this delay gives them time to make it something other than a rushed out buggy piece of monkey shit, I'm all for it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on October 16, 2013, 10:20:09 AM
So they delay the only IP people care about to be able to launch AC4 an IP nobody really gives a shit about anymore?

Sounds like great marketing

AC4 is likely projected to sell more copies than Watch Dogs because it is an established IP, regardless of how good the game actually is.  From Ubi's perspective, they stand to sell a lot more copies of AC4 during the holidays than they would Watch Dogs.  A business can't underestimate the power of the American holiday season for revenue, obviously.

Sure, it sucks for gamers who like good games, but Business.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on October 16, 2013, 02:56:53 PM
I don't think 4 people here saying "I don't give a shit about AC4" translates to it being an IP that nobody cares about, not in the slightest. I don't care about it either, but I have seen plenty of buzz from people about it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on October 16, 2013, 03:36:16 PM
As of last March, AC3 had sold 12.5 million copies, and while Ubisoft is expecting AC4 to be down from that number you're still likely looking at around 10 million.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 17, 2013, 12:58:25 AM
Tons of people care about AC3. An absolute fuckton. The problem with letting a game slip is you don't know what your competition will be. While they'd have been competing with themselves with AC4, now they're going to be competing against an unknown enemy - and they'll be missing the Christmas bump.

but hey

french people


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Stormwaltz on October 17, 2013, 01:23:56 AM
Between Watchdogs slipping and some "underperforming" titles, it appears investors are displeased (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/128768-Ubisoft-Share-Price-Tanks-As-Bad-News-Abounds).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on October 17, 2013, 05:56:43 AM
Hopefully Watch Dogs benefits from the delay in terms of polish, rather than suffering feature creep or having the bonus time wasted on DLC or something.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 17, 2013, 05:59:20 AM
No one delays games for polish anymore.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Miasma on October 17, 2013, 06:58:37 AM
The conspiracy theory I'm going to go with is they played GTA V and realized that, fair or not, watch dogs would be compared to it and look small and simple.  Maybe they don't have enough faith that the mechanics and more interesting systems they are trying to use differentiates them enough.

Missing Christmas and the launch of the new systems is going to hurt, the only reason I can see for them losing that is that they are worried it will compare so poorly that they won't be able to turn it into a franchise.  I still can't imagine a delay strategy will work, they can't make it as big and featured as GTA V in a few months, Rockstar had a legion of people working on that for years.

I mean GTA has a completely functioning subway system with stations throughout the city, commuters that get on and off, security, artistic murals, station announcements and camera shots at every angle as you ride the train - they didn't even use it in any of the missions!  I didn't find it until after I finished the game because they didn't bother to use it.  I was running from the cops and found myself on foot for some reason, jumped down some stairs to hide and boom, a fully animated unused subway system under the city.  I think you drive on some tracks underground in one heist but that's it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 17, 2013, 08:34:29 AM
Maybe so, but why delay it past Dec'13?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on October 17, 2013, 11:17:46 AM
Read at Lum's that the delay is because the game just isn't going to be ready, from am Ubi guy.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on October 17, 2013, 11:33:06 AM
So looks like Blizzard All-stars is getting re-branded as Heroes of the Storm:

Blizzard.com (http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/games/heroes/)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 17, 2013, 01:14:53 PM
BALLS to HOTS


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 17, 2013, 01:16:52 PM
That animation sucked and the logo looked too much like Hearthstone's. Which is to say, too much Warcraft, not enough Diablo and Starcraft.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maledict on October 17, 2013, 01:28:44 PM
Not even any shots of the actual game yet? How slow can they be at this?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on October 17, 2013, 02:22:30 PM
Not even any shots of the actual game yet? How slow can they be at this?

Who, Blizzard?

You sure you want an answer to that?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on October 17, 2013, 02:26:35 PM
It's dripping gooey wads of Activision.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on October 17, 2013, 05:22:00 PM
There's a wiki out there with shots of the alpha and it does indeed look pretty and further along then you'd expect.  Just wait for the unveil tomorrow at blizzcon.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on October 17, 2013, 07:10:36 PM
There's a wiki out there with shots of the alpha and it does indeed look pretty and further along then you'd expect.

I expected it to be done at least a year ago.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on October 19, 2013, 05:07:16 AM
There's a wiki out there with shots of the alpha and it does indeed look pretty and further along then you'd expect.  Just wait for the unveil tomorrow at blizzcon.
Um. Blizzcon is three weeks away?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nightblade on October 19, 2013, 07:38:12 AM
That animation sucked and the logo looked too much like Hearthstone's. Which is to say, too much Warcraft, not enough Diablo and Starcraft.

For a moment I thought it was fan made...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on October 19, 2013, 10:05:45 AM
Because it was made by someone who made a bunch of SC2 fanvids?
http://www.youtube.com/user/CarbotAnimations

Reading comprehension is unfair to some.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nightblade on October 19, 2013, 10:13:16 AM
Because it was made by someone who made a bunch of SC2 fanvids?
http://www.youtube.com/user/CarbotAnimations

Reading comprehension is unfair to some.

Yes, especially to those who barely care.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on October 24, 2013, 02:48:28 PM
Apparently the first 90000 people that redeem the code 38qq8dne97aa on PSN can get into the Dark Souls 2 closed beta. Just redeemed mine and got in. Downloading it now. Not sure what it includes but the article I read says it's about 90 mins of gameplay.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 24, 2013, 02:54:22 PM
Got it. Sweeeeet.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on October 24, 2013, 04:19:51 PM
While not stated on the site giving away the code, it seems likely that this is for the test on the 26th which is running 10/26 11:00PM PDT - 10/27 2:00AM PDT.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 25, 2013, 06:46:21 AM
Someone (schild) let me know how it is.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 26, 2013, 12:08:46 PM
i uh, I guess I have to play tonight at, I'm sorry, 1AM? Ok then.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on November 10, 2013, 06:46:37 AM
Very, very  :ye_gods:

Rambo the - Videogame (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkIUl1e7D0g)



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on November 10, 2013, 12:23:44 PM
Rambo: SWEAT SWEAT SWEAT SWEAT SWEAT the videogame


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on November 11, 2013, 09:18:34 AM
dat 1980s


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on November 11, 2013, 09:22:48 AM
Dear God... WHY?  :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on November 11, 2013, 01:09:20 PM
And here I thought it was going to be the next franchise to get the LEGO treatment.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on November 11, 2013, 08:13:05 PM
Could've been worse... Obsidian presents...  Rambo RPG.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on November 22, 2013, 02:10:02 PM
John Carmack has resigned from id. He wants to focus working on the Oculus VR headset.

http://techcrunch.com/2013/11/22/dooms-john-carmack-leaves-id-software-to-focus-on-the-oculus-virtual-reality-headset/

(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/jmarko579/royal-couple-norway.jpg) (http://s1094.photobucket.com/user/jmarko579/media/royal-couple-norway.jpg.html)

edit: clarity


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on November 22, 2013, 02:52:47 PM
Eh, whatever.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on November 23, 2013, 11:22:12 AM
Carmack appears to have mentally checked out of id when he started getting into space stuff - quite some time ago.

You can't be the lead programmer / architect of a leading engine provider and also be all about sending rockets into space and also be all about 3D goggles. There's just not enough time in the day, even for someone like Carmack. And it shows - id has become pretty irrelevant both as a game developer and engine provider.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Miasma on November 23, 2013, 01:16:15 PM
After looking at the image and before reading the post I really thought it was going to be about some uber nerd having a wedding with that oculus thing.  Had a bride, groom, best man feel.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on November 24, 2013, 06:03:17 AM
So, the one game that might have gotten me to buy a PS4...just got announced for the PS3. I'm okay with this.

http://persona5.jp/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on November 24, 2013, 06:31:47 AM
Yah, Persona 5, GT6, Dark Souls 2. Why do we need new consoles again?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on November 24, 2013, 09:01:05 AM
So, the one game that might have gotten me to buy a PS4...just got announced for the PS3. I'm okay with this.

http://persona5.jp/
I never know is 2014 Winter means next December or this coming January-March :(


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on November 24, 2013, 09:01:37 AM
As an aside, every single Playstation Console has gone out with a bang. Every. Single. One.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on November 24, 2013, 09:58:07 AM
That alone made me want to get a PS3.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on November 24, 2013, 11:04:21 AM
That alone would make me cancel my PS4 preorder if I hadn't done that already.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on November 24, 2013, 07:07:54 PM
So, the one game that might have gotten me to buy a PS4...just got announced for the PS3. I'm okay with this.

http://persona5.jp/
I never know is 2014 Winter means next December or this coming January-March :(
Next December.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on November 24, 2013, 07:10:41 PM
I'm thinking mid-2015 on a PS4 for me.  75% of the games on my radar are PS3 and PC still, so I simply don't have the need for the new tech.  I figure that will put me into the second generation of PS4s which historically draw a bit less power and may have more storage.  Plus, there should be a few $20 greatest hits titles by then.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on November 25, 2013, 06:19:21 PM
I don't really see the need until they pretty much pry my Xbox360 from my cold dead hands. Nothing on console excites me any longer, I have a backlog of console games to play, I can find other ways to do Netflix. The kids mostly play Super Smash Brawl when friends are over. I don't see a damn thing in the new gen stuff that says, "Man, I'm gonna need that."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maledict on November 26, 2013, 12:33:39 AM
Infamous: second son is the game that will make me pick up a ps4. I absolutely love those games.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Stormwaltz on December 13, 2013, 05:39:56 PM
Quote
An acceptable offer was not received for Project Copernicus nor 38 Studios’ integrated social media and gaming platform Helios.

http://www.vg247.com/2013/12/13/rise-of-nations-and-rise-of-legends-sold-in-38-studios-auction/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on December 13, 2013, 09:00:37 PM
Shocked.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on December 14, 2013, 02:54:28 AM
At least the Rise of Nations IP sold, maybe we'll get a decent RTS out of it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on December 14, 2013, 06:17:32 AM
At least the Rise of Nations IP sold, maybe we'll get a decent RTS shitty browser-based social game money grab out of it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on December 19, 2013, 01:33:07 AM
Let's simulate!  :drill:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/267610/

http://store.steampowered.com/app/267600/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on December 19, 2013, 02:56:44 AM
Sky is probably playing that woodcutter simulator as we speak.  So that one at least has an audience.

But airport simulator?  Doesn't everybody hate airports?

Here's some other ideas for sim games, just off the top of my head, because apparently that's how this works:

- Colonoscopy Simulator 2013
- Root Canal Sim 2
- Prison Shower Encounters Online
- Sim Slut 4000
- Candy Van Stories




Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 19, 2013, 12:23:58 PM
HOW DARE YOU


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on December 19, 2013, 02:00:54 PM

But airport simulator?  Doesn't everybody hate airports?


My son loves them.  He is 4, however, and just likes them because: airport = vacation.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on December 19, 2013, 08:19:45 PM

But airport simulator?  Doesn't everybody hate airports?

Strip searching anyone?  :why_so_serious:

Quote
Besides heavy machinery like cutter, feller buncher and puller the player can finally simply use a chainsaw for working in the woods. With all this, the Woodcutter Simulator 2013 offers the players a great feeling.

 :grin: rub rub rub rub rub . TIMBEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 20, 2013, 12:42:54 PM
I almost bought it but it sounds really buggy.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on December 23, 2013, 04:50:10 PM
I've never understood the appeal of Pokemon games, but their new service is really cool.  For $5/yr you can have an online bank to dump any pokemon from Black/White, Black2/White2 and X/Y.  It will save up to 3000 pokemon.  Then you can install the new pokemon transporter app to bring the B/W pokemon into X/Y. 

The potential for these tools is amazing.  Imagine having the same pokemon for many future game iterations; that's awesome!

3rd article on this page:  http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/12/24/out-this-week-december-23-2013


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on December 23, 2013, 05:03:48 PM
You've always been able to transfer your Pokemon up from one generation to another; if one had all of the games and systems I believe you can go all the way from the originals up to X/Y (you'd need the new transport thing to make the jump from B/W to X/Y). It is pretty cool that it's online, provided that all future games have access to it; at the least it'll make the process easier.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on December 23, 2013, 09:09:22 PM
That's pretty cool; I didn't realize the games allowed for that.  They became popular in a brief 5-yr period that I wasn't playing games at all.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on December 23, 2013, 10:08:11 PM
It's required some shenanigans, system wise, to pull off but it's a very cool feature. You needed a DS Original or Lite, for example, to go from the GBA ones to the DS ones because those systems could hold both cartridges.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on December 26, 2013, 12:06:24 PM
These Pokeymans are why I can't do a system transfer to my new 3DS.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/12/nintendo_acknowledges_network_issues_and_suggests_patience

Quote
The issues with the Nintendo Network are continuing into Boxing Day, and Nintendo has now disabled Pokémon Bank and withdrawn it from the 3DS eShop in Japan — the online service launched on Christmas Day in the region, and has been revealed as part of the cause of the downtime worldwide.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Furiously on December 27, 2013, 01:53:29 AM
Let's simulate!  :drill:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/267610/

http://store.steampowered.com/app/267600/

Why isnt there a Sim: Crab Fishing or Sim:Gold Miner.... I think we need to get kickstarting...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 27, 2013, 06:30:32 AM
I'm all aboard for SimCrabber, just look for the fart bubbles.

I don't know guys, SimGoldMiner could make millions, but you frickin' just gotta believe. I know in my gut that money is there. Dad, let's pray.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on December 28, 2013, 05:56:59 AM
And now, we take you live to the Red 5/Firefall CEO meltdown in progress.  Join us over there, won't you?   :grin:

http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=19775.msg1253858#msg1253858


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on December 29, 2013, 12:30:21 AM
What in the holy monkey fuck was this thing?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjSloTj4VB8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjSloTj4VB8)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on December 30, 2013, 08:10:02 AM
Couldn't watch much, but I saw enough to know they were on some good shit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 30, 2013, 09:33:08 AM
The bag is in the hat, it's filled with this and that. Their vision's getting fat. The rabbit is just a monkey in disguise.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on January 01, 2014, 09:14:20 AM
Fixing ET for the 2600:

http://www.neocomputer.org/projects/et/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on January 04, 2014, 09:00:41 AM
RPGCodex preview of Might&Magic 10 (http://www.rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=9291) actually seems pretty positive and makes me seriously consider buying the game at release (despite all my reservations).  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on January 04, 2014, 12:46:10 PM
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RPGCodex

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positive

I refuse to believe this.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on January 04, 2014, 07:57:56 PM
Codex liking something means it's probably an awful mess of outdated design - but maybe that's what you want.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rattran on January 04, 2014, 08:42:26 PM
I liked the old Wizardry games, and that review made me not want to play this one.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 07, 2014, 01:57:50 PM
I finally registered a bunch of the new Nintendo things today, and looks like all the good items are unavailable.  Either they didn't stock many of these new items, or Nintendo sold a shitload of games and systems.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/85916/once/unavailable.png)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on January 07, 2014, 03:05:30 PM
So remember how Aliens: Colonial Marines killed Alien games?

I guess not?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXFBsvg61f0

Basically Sega and Creative Assembly decided hey let's try it again! Only instead of a shooter it's now Amnesia: With an Alien. One alien, no weapons, big ship. I mean, sounds cool but do they expect to recoup the budget with a completely niche genre title?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 07, 2014, 03:10:54 PM
Uggh, well I am in. I don't care about previous failures... THIS SEEMS AMAZING!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Stormwaltz on January 07, 2014, 11:06:25 PM
PC Gamer has compiled a list what appears to be nearly every PC game known or theorized to be released this year, including indies.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/01/04/the-best-pc-games-of-2014/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 08, 2014, 01:23:05 AM
This is the most exciting to me. The Long Dark. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTYlQu2IprU)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on January 08, 2014, 01:29:19 AM
Another survival game claiming "we're the ones making the REAL survival game." :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on January 08, 2014, 01:48:38 AM
No zombies, at least.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 08, 2014, 01:57:48 AM
Between The Road (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8RuQrhVBvo) and First Winter (horrible movie but great setting) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF2IQv2L5vI).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 08, 2014, 07:45:34 AM
PC Gamer has compiled a list what appears to be nearly every PC game known or theorized to be released this year, including indies.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/01/04/the-best-pc-games-of-2014/
Was literally googling this the last 3 days and couldn't find it. Thanks.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shannow on January 08, 2014, 09:25:38 AM
God help me but I'd probably buy Star Wars Battlefront. I've been playing a little of II on my son's laptop the last week...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on January 10, 2014, 04:44:15 AM
There's literally like 20-something zombie games and a dozen+ "survival" games in that list. Then there's like a half dozen minecraft knockoffs. Great innovation we have coming up here.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on January 10, 2014, 06:45:59 AM
Why do people want to make just multiplayer medieval combat games with absolutely no single player world? I mean I would love to play the War of the Roses stuff or Chivalry or the like combat in a single player story game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on January 10, 2014, 07:36:00 AM
AI is hard.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on January 10, 2014, 07:45:14 AM
It's pitiful that we've come to that. Mount and Blade mods make functional AI for these kinds of things.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on January 10, 2014, 07:46:31 AM
There's literally like 20-something zombie games and a dozen+ "survival" games in that list. Then there's like a half dozen minecraft knockoffs. Great innovation we have coming up here.

I think I could play zombie survival games forever, provided they are good.  The concept somehow pushes all my buttons.

Of course, they won't all be good, nor even most of them.  And just like with everything else they will start making them all multiplayer/MMO only and totally kill the genre.





Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on January 10, 2014, 01:47:30 PM
TIL: Notch is working on the new Age of Wonders. I liked the old one, so this is interesting to me. I'm not sure what he brings to the table, but I'm happy there is a new iteration coming out.

Too bad about where Thief is heading (again). That franchise should share more with Amnesia than an FPS.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on January 10, 2014, 01:57:20 PM
I thought he was just funding it?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on January 10, 2014, 02:15:51 PM
Awesome Games Done Quick is awesome. http://www.twitch.tv/speeddemosarchivesda

Nothing like watching some guy play Mike Tyson's Punch Out blindfolded.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on January 10, 2014, 03:11:41 PM
Awesome Games Done Quick is awesome. http://www.twitch.tv/speeddemosarchivesda

Nothing like watching some guy play Mike Tyson's Punch Out blindfolded.

Holy shit, just caught the last few fights there but that was pretty awesome.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on January 10, 2014, 03:14:45 PM
Yah, the first guy got to Tyson.  The next guy up did the SNES Super Punchout and beat it blindfolded.  One shot every fight I believe.

Last night they had some guy that I recognized from the LoL scene (Studio.  He used to cast minor tourneys and was on some second tier pro teams) doing a Half-Life 2 speed run.  That shit was crazy.  It's like 95% abusing physics and clipping in the source engine.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on January 10, 2014, 03:32:39 PM
AI is hard.

Content in general is hard.  Maps, quests, dialogue, it's all a black hole that you pour years of development time into.  But a multiplayer shooter can get by just fine with ten maps, six character models, and a soundtrack that consists entirely of one song you hear on the title menu.  It's trickier to balance, certainly, but it's a quality vs. quantity thing at that point.  A big AAA studio will have a way easier time hiring enough artists to generate a map for Skyrim, but balance testing isn't something you can throw people at as easily.

It's part of the reason why there are so many minecraft clones and quote "roguelike" games where the only real roguelike element is a randomly generated world.  Big worlds are a masive pain to generate by hand.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Miasma on January 10, 2014, 04:57:45 PM
I clicked that link and it was some terrible people playing a song in zelda.  I hate twitch links because I'm always too late to see the good stuff.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Stormwaltz on January 20, 2014, 04:42:57 PM
There is a company called "Superdata" that apparently tracks digital online sales. I've never heard of them before, so I'm not sure how much stock to put in this:

(http://www.superdataresearch.com/content/uploads/2013/12/F2P-Top10-2013-1.jpg)

The top game is a Korean shooter I've never heard of, which I suppose means it made nearly a billion dollars without any presence in NA or EU. WoW is making a ton of money, as this apparently only shows revenue from microtransactions, not subscriptions. SWTOR is standing toe to toe TF2, and again that's without subscription fees.

http://www.superdataresearch.com/blog/us-digital-games-market/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 20, 2014, 04:52:09 PM
Lineage 1.

brb gonna go die

Goddamn Korea.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on January 20, 2014, 05:02:58 PM
But SWTOR is a ~failure~!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kageru on January 21, 2014, 01:44:14 AM

f2p at this level is mostly a fanboy indicator I guess... thus korea and star wars.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on January 21, 2014, 09:28:55 AM
Lineage 1.

brb gonna go die

Goddamn Korea.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Koreans are FUCKING CRAZY.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 22, 2014, 08:11:59 AM
Candy Crush Saga Makers Go After The Banner Saga. For Real. (http://kotaku.com/candy-crush-saga-makers-go-after-the-banner-saga-for-1506188958)

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Not content with trying to own the word "Candy", King.com, the makers of Candy Crush Saga, also want to own the word "Saga". So they've have taken legal action against strategy game The Banner Saga.

On December 27, 2013, King.com filed a "Notice of Opposition" with the US Patent and Trademark Office. It says that because King has 13 trademarks with the word "saga" in them, Stoic's colourful strategy game isn't allowed to use the word.

(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/19d9vknvdybyxjpg/ku-xlarge.jpg)

(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/19d9vpnf8kzqhjpg/ku-xlarge.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 22, 2014, 08:20:58 AM
King, who no one really cared about, just became Villain #1. Well done, morons.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on January 22, 2014, 08:27:55 AM
They'll lose.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on January 22, 2014, 08:36:29 AM
Hopefully someone goes after them and soaks up all their wonderful profits in litigation. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 22, 2014, 08:43:24 AM
Rumor is they tried to copyright the word "candy" recently. Not sure if true...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Tebonas on January 22, 2014, 08:46:32 AM
Isn't Candy Crush Saga a Bejeweled Clone?

I like the smell of Hypocrisy in the morning. Guess I have to tell my Candy Crush Saga playing relatives they should find another Bejeweled Clone to play instead of this.

Being both an Asshole and a Moron is a bad combination.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on January 22, 2014, 08:53:56 AM
Rumor is they tried to copyright the word "candy" recently. Not sure if true...

They trademarked it. It was approved a week ago.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonykosner/2014/01/20/candy-crush-saga-has-trademarked-candy-and-apples-app-store-is-helping-enforce-it/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on January 22, 2014, 08:56:47 AM
I'm no lawyer but I didn't think you could trademark a single word that has already existed for eons? I mean if I make up a word, maybe it's different, but saga is as old as the actual meaning.

I understand trademarking phrases like your product name "Candy Crush", but a word? That seems overstepping.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on January 22, 2014, 08:59:55 AM
I think it only applies to games and clothing. I don't know either but I guess that would be the only place it is enforceable?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on January 22, 2014, 09:01:25 AM
I'm no lawyer but I didn't think you could trademark a single word that has already existed for eons? I mean if I make up a word, maybe it's different, but saga is as old as the actual meaning.

I understand trademarking phrases like your product name "Candy Crush", but a word? That seems overstepping.

Ask Tim Langdell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edge_Games), I guess.  It took quite a while for EA to finally smack him down.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Stormwaltz on January 22, 2014, 11:05:16 AM
This pretty much cements my decision to buy Banner Saga on Friday.

Fuck trolls.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on January 22, 2014, 11:19:51 AM
I won't be buying Banner Saga until it's actually complete. Apparently it's episodic and just basically ends partway through, despite the Steam Store page saying nothing about it being episodic content.

I *will* be telling my Candy Crush playing relatives/friends to stop supporting King though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on January 22, 2014, 11:40:00 AM
But SWTOR is a ~failure~!
:grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on January 22, 2014, 07:38:37 PM
This pretty much cements my decision to buy Banner Saga on Friday.

Fuck trolls.

Agree. I hope their suing bonanza works out as well as SCO's "We own UNIX!" crusade.  :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Stormwaltz on January 24, 2014, 03:53:29 PM
Napoleonic Age of Sail sims are about as niche as you can get, but this one is quite easy on the eyes.

http://www.navalaction.com/

(Seen at RPS.)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on January 25, 2014, 06:26:35 AM
This makes me a bit desperate for the Southpark Game.

I hope it's not a piece of shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b03K5SgYI2M


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 25, 2014, 01:22:03 PM
Jazzpunk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxfgajectCs)? (With Hunter S. Thompson, apparently)

Also, coming to Steam February 7th. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T0UOy03_IE)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: murdoc on January 28, 2014, 09:36:40 AM
Assassin's Creed: Mordor aka Wraith Powers lolwut? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmiF-_7PX3c)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on January 28, 2014, 10:04:23 AM
I saw that over the weekend and it made me sick.  I'm so tired of the bastardization of LotR.  This is a bit over the top in that regard.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on January 28, 2014, 10:29:10 AM
Assassin's Creed: Mordor aka Wraith Powers lolwut? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmiF-_7PX3c)

... THE FUCK?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on January 28, 2014, 12:40:25 PM
Hm. I thought it looked pretty awesome and I pretty much ignore the LotR stuff (and have no interest in the Hobbit movie).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Miasma on January 28, 2014, 01:33:52 PM
I would take a serious look at playing any game with an AC/Arkham combat system.  Looks like they even threw in a little Dishonored.

I don't really care that much about the purity of Tolkien or whatnot.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on January 28, 2014, 01:44:20 PM
It looked cool, but it would suit Witcher better methinks.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on January 28, 2014, 05:33:01 PM
Why would you make a game like that and saddle it with the LOTR IP?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on January 28, 2014, 07:23:49 PM
Why would you make a game like that and saddle it with the LOTR IP?

I'm not sure they are saddled by much. It already looks like a pretty big departure from standard Tolkien lore.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on January 28, 2014, 11:20:51 PM
I haven't played any of the AC or Batman games for a long time.  This looks like something I'd actually enjoy playing.  The IP is just flavor and makes no difference to me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on January 29, 2014, 01:33:57 AM
Why would you make a game like that and saddle it with the LOTR IP?

Because the LOTR IP to most people is the Peter Jackson movies and that doesn't really seem like a particularly constricting framework to work in. Certainly if they're going to compete with Assassin's Creed even LOTR movie continuity fanfic will probably still make for a better story than what the AC games have been doing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 29, 2014, 02:30:49 AM
"Intellectual despair" (http://www.worldcrunch.com/culture-society/my-father-039-s-quot-eviscerated-quot-work-son-of-hobbit-scribe-j.r.r.-tolkien-finally-speaks-out/hobbit-silmarillion-lord-of-rings/c3s10299/#.UujYDhAuKij), says J.R.R. Tolkien's son.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on January 29, 2014, 03:32:13 AM
"Intellectual despair" (http://www.worldcrunch.com/culture-society/my-father-039-s-quot-eviscerated-quot-work-son-of-hobbit-scribe-j.r.r.-tolkien-finally-speaks-out/hobbit-silmarillion-lord-of-rings/c3s10299/#.UujYDhAuKij), says J.R.R. Tolkien's son.

That's fine. I'll take the "action movie for young people aged 15 to 25" over 12 volumes of history lessons about a fictional world. Both options are filled with a bunch of overindulgent wankery but at least I can make it through the movies.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 29, 2014, 03:36:05 AM
Reminds me of Dante's Inferno (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5o1LVg9ywPE). I vote no.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on January 29, 2014, 06:10:48 AM
Am I the only one who is going to comment on the name Ratbag?  Ratbag the Meat Hoarder.  It appears they've outsourced their orc-naming work to offshore kindergartners.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on January 29, 2014, 10:32:07 AM
That's fine. I'll take the "action movie for young people aged 15 to 25" over 12 volumes of history lessons about a fictional world. Both options are filled with a bunch of overindulgent wankery but at least I can make it through the movies.

Pulp fantasy stories and movies already exist in droves; go to the young adult section of your local bookstore to see that in action.  However, the segment of fantasy that consists of 12 volumes of history lessons about a fictional world is actually very small in comparison, especially with one so admired. 

I'm a neckbearded fan of Tolkien and I don't like the fact that liberties have been taken with the IP.  I realize there's not much I can do at this point except as Christopher says "to turn my head away".  It still irks me, though. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on January 29, 2014, 12:14:37 PM
"Fun" times at Funcom: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2014-01-29-funcom-offices-raided-by-economic-crimes-unit
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MMO developer accused of breaching Securities Trading Act for The Secret World

Employees at Funcom's offices in Oslo, Norway were sent home today under orders from the Økokrim economic crime unit.

According to a report from the Norwegian news site E24, officers from The National Authority for Investigation and Prosecution of Economic and Environmental Crime - a.k.a. Økokrim - were waiting at Funcom's offices this morning.

Witnesses report that the Økokrim officers seized enough documents from the company to fill several boxes. Employees were sent home just before midday, though neither Funcom's management nor the Økokrim representatives would comment on the reasons for the raid.

Funcom's stock ceased trading on the Oslo stock exchange this morning. Representatives from the exchange told E24 that it was waiting on more information before further action could be taken.

In a report from the Norwegian site News In English, the Økokrim has charged Funcom with breaching the Securities Trading Act regarding information disclosed to the market about its ambitious MMO project, The Secret World. The period in which the false or misleading disclosures were made runs from August 2011 to its launch in July 2012, and the two months that followed. There are also questions over how Funcom shared sensitive information during that time.

GamesIndustry International has also made contact with Funcom to press the matter.

In July 2012, three months before the end of the period under investigation and just prior to the launch of The Secret World, Trond Arne Aas stepped down as CEO of Funcom, taking on an advisory role and ceding his place on the board.

The Secret World experienced a difficult launch, meeting a mixture of tepid reviews and waning interest in the subscription MMO model among consumers. Shortly after, the company laid off an undisclosed number of staff in the name of reducing costs. Those costs became abundantly clear in the Q2 financial report that followed at the end of August, which showed a loss of $49 million - compared to a $3 million profit in the prior year quarter.

"The Company still considers it likely that sales for the 12 months period following launch of the game will be less than half of what was presented in the Conan-like scenario in Q1 presentation," the company said at the time.

Funcom dropped The Secret World's subscription model before the end of the year, but its impact reverberated for months afterwards. In January last year, the company closed the Beijing studio that had provided art and animation for the game, and drastically reduced the headcount at the Montreal studio it had opened less than four years before.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on January 29, 2014, 02:32:32 PM
Am I the only one who is going to comment on the name Ratbag?  Ratbag the Meat Hoarder.  It appears they've outsourced their orc-naming work to offshore kindergartners.

That's actually not so bad, IMO, though it might have been spit out by a random generator. If you split all the orc names up into syllables you could end up with Ratbag from Shagrat and Gorbag (both 'real' ones).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Xuri on January 30, 2014, 07:49:37 AM
"Fun" times at Funcom: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2014-01-29-funcom-offices-raided-by-economic-crimes-unit
I am shocked, I'm sure.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 30, 2014, 03:05:52 PM
Were you still there at the time, Xuri? Give us the gossip, cmon.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Xuri on January 30, 2014, 03:42:14 PM
I probably should not. What I can say though, is that this one time, [redacted] totally [censored] when the [redacted] over the [redacted], [redacted] [redacted] even before [redacted]! Imagine my surprise, when [redacted], [redacted] and [redacted] proceeded to [censored] right in the middle of the [redacted]! On a WEDNESDAY! o_O  :uhrr:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fordel on January 30, 2014, 05:37:10 PM
On a WEDNESDAY? YOU LIE!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on January 31, 2014, 08:26:39 AM
Swedeway does not have Wednesday. False.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Stormwaltz on January 31, 2014, 01:19:34 PM
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY.

http://www.insertcoinclothing.com/blog/2014/01/theres-a-saint-in-all-of-us/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on January 31, 2014, 01:31:48 PM
Where's my purple and gold suit?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Moaner on February 04, 2014, 10:22:44 AM
Apparently people sending Sony broken consoles filled with bugs is something that actually happens.  The instructions in my coffin box clearly state that I should not ship or pack any discs, controllers, cables/cords, or insect infested consoles.   :uhrr:

Unfortunately Assassin's Creed is stuck in the fucking thing, which I'm assuming means I'll never get it back.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 04, 2014, 11:14:43 AM
Nintendo returned the disc that was stuck in the Wii they repaired, so it's possible.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on February 04, 2014, 11:55:29 AM
Apparently people sending Sony broken consoles filled with bugs is something that actually happens.  The instructions in my coffin box clearly state that I should not ship or pack any discs, controllers, cables/cords, or insect infested consoles.   :uhrr:

Yup.  I used to work on notebook computers in the mid-90s.  One day got a service repair in which the user spilled wine into their notebook.  Everything looked good until we took the keypad off and tiny roaches exploded into our clean room.  Two days a whole service department shut down to kill them all. 

People are disgusting creatures. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ard on February 04, 2014, 01:09:13 PM
Unfortunately Assassin's Creed is stuck in the fucking thing, which I'm assuming means I'll never get it back.

Sony will ship back the game.  There should be something in the forms to fill out that asks you for the name of the game stuck in it, if there was one, or at least that was the case when I had a ps3 die on me.  The game came back in a sleeve along with the replacement console.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on February 04, 2014, 02:11:45 PM
Apparently people sending Sony broken consoles filled with bugs is something that actually happens.  The instructions in my coffin box clearly state that I should not ship or pack any discs, controllers, cables/cords, or insect infested consoles.   :uhrr:

Unfortunately Assassin's Creed is stuck in the fucking thing, which I'm assuming means I'll never get it back.
Infestation was one of the few reasons we could absolutely refuse a trade-in when I worked at Gamestop, and I'm sad to say people brought in infested systems on more than one occasion. One time a coworker fucked up and took one in, and we had roaches in our backroom for a week after throwing the 360 away.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Quinton on February 04, 2014, 04:38:03 PM
Always on computing devices are nice and warm.  Can make them very appealing to various pests.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Moaner on February 04, 2014, 04:53:33 PM
I had no idea, I guess that's one benefit of living somewhere with a cold climate.  I was 35 by the time I saw my first cockroach.  I actually looked at the forms carefully and there is indeed a place to indicate that a disc is stuck in the console, so I'm hoping I will get my game back.  If everything goes as planned, I'll be pretty happy with Sony's customer service.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on February 04, 2014, 05:11:15 PM
Well at least I finally have the answer to 'is there anything grosser to open up than a smoker's computer'. A smoker's computer with roaches.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on February 04, 2014, 06:46:34 PM
Well at least I finally have the answer to 'is there anything grosser to open up than a smoker's computer'. A smoker's computer with roaches.

Back in my early college days I worked at Best Buy. It was in a city that is surrounded by farmland. By far the worst thing that I have ever experienced was the computer used to run a farm's milking machines. It was literally splattered with cow feces. It was fine until you turned it on and then you can imagine the smell.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: apocrypha on February 05, 2014, 02:52:41 AM
I worked in a microbiology lab for a couple of years and had to spend a lot of time in an incubator room - an entire room kept at a constant 37oC and used for growing bacterial cultures.

There were several PCs in there attached to various bits of lab equipment and the kind of disgusting, probably highly dangerous stuff that used to grow on them were unbelievable. The IT department of the university point blank refused to service them in any way so it was left to people like me - lab workers with some knowledge of both IT and safe handling of unknown, infectious organisms.

I don't miss that job One. Tiny. Bit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on February 10, 2014, 10:09:20 AM
Bug fixes? Fuck that, we've got DLC to sell (http://www.joystiq.com/2014/02/09/batman-arkham-origins-team-prioritizing-dlc-over-bug-fixes/?ncid=rss_truncated&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+weblogsinc%2Fjoystiq+%28Joystiq%29).

The devs of the notoriously buggy as fuck Batman: Arkham Origins have flat out stated that they won't be patching anymore bugs so their dev teams can focus on DLC creation. Unless the bug is a "progression blocker" do not ever think it'll get fixed.

And that is the only reason I need to say FUCK THESE GUYS and never buy this game even on fucking Steam sale. Taint tickling ball lickers.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on February 10, 2014, 12:25:31 PM
I had to look up who published that game. Looks like Warner Brothers Interactive. They just made the "Never buy from" list!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 10, 2014, 12:39:12 PM
This game seems cool, and got half of its Kickstarter money (75k) in, well, two hours I think.

Darkest Dungeon. (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1460250988/darkest-dungeon-by-red-hook-studios)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on February 10, 2014, 12:41:28 PM
I read Roguelike and immediately blacked out.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on February 10, 2014, 12:42:42 PM
I perked up when I saw 'roguelike' then perked right back down when I saw 2D sidescrolling.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on February 10, 2014, 12:43:27 PM
To be fair, if 2D sidescrolling came before roguelike i'd have blacked out then too.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 13, 2014, 07:23:15 AM
A friend of mine recently is going insane over all the cheap bundles of games and I usually tell him that they have to be scams, or they just suck. Until he showed me this (http://groupees.com/bm11). I don't get it. It's like free games, while they are actually up on Steam or Desura for real money, including one (Aerena) still in early access alpha but totally worth the 1$ admission price.

What's the deal with these? They have to be legal, so what's the story? That once you are selling a digital product it's better to make 0.01$ out of it than nothing at all? And that basically that when we normally buy on Steam you are kind of overpaying? I am admitedly confused...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on February 13, 2014, 08:22:56 AM
I can't speak for the other bundles you mention, but the one you linked is for charity (some girl with neuroblastoma).  So it's probably a combination of the devs (which look like indie studios from what I recognized) not caring about profits if it's for a good cause, and being able to write off the game sales as "charitable donations" at tax time (though I'm not sure about this bit, not an accountant).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on February 13, 2014, 12:07:16 PM
Internet assholes and trolls have broken TotalBiscuit (http://www.reddit.com/r/Cynicalbrit/comments/1xrx27/in_light_of_tb_abandonning_his_own_subreddit/cfe3rgc)

tl;dr TotalBiscuit no longer enjoys playing the games he makes videos for because of all the comments Internet assholes and trolls leave


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on February 13, 2014, 12:25:17 PM
The first worldest of problems.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on February 13, 2014, 01:23:47 PM
Internet assholes and trolls have broken TotalBiscuit (http://www.reddit.com/r/Cynicalbrit/comments/1xrx27/in_light_of_tb_abandonning_his_own_subreddit/cfe3rgc)

tl;dr TotalBiscuit no longer enjoys playing the games he makes videos for because of all the comments Internet assholes and trolls leave


It's all very Flappy Bird.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: apocrypha on February 13, 2014, 10:46:14 PM
Someone tries to make a living out of their hobby and then finds their hobby isn't as much fun as it used to be?

Say it ain't so.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: trias_e on February 14, 2014, 03:06:37 PM
Twitch is trying to beat Pokemon.

http://www.twitch.tv/twitchplayspokemon

Watch 10,000+ people individually input button presses.  Despair at the horror.  Marvel at things somehow actually moving forward.  

The 30 second twitch stream delay really doesn't help matters.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on February 14, 2014, 03:18:50 PM
That's pretty amazing they've gotten that far.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on February 15, 2014, 05:28:58 AM
Giantbomb took a look at the South Park RPG from Obisidian (http://www.giantbomb.com/videos/unfinished-south-park-the-stick-of-truth-02-14-201/2300-8511/) and it looks surprisingly good. I hadn't really followed this game much since I watch maybe one episode of South Park a year at most and all the footage I had seen before pretty much just looked like an episode of South Park with no gameplay really being shown. It seems like it actually has some solid RPGness to it though, which I guess shouldn't be shocking since it's Obsidian even though they don't have exactly have a perfect track record. Actually looking forward to this now although unfortunately Dark Souls II and Infamous: Second Son both come out next month as well.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on February 15, 2014, 05:41:42 AM
Giantbomb took a look at the South Park RPG from Obisidian (http://www.giantbomb.com/videos/unfinished-south-park-the-stick-of-truth-02-14-201/2300-8511/) and it looks surprisingly good. I hadn't really followed this game much since I watch maybe one episode of South Park a year at most and all the footage I had seen before pretty much just looked like an episode of South Park with no gameplay really being shown. It seems like it actually has some solid RPGness to it though, which I guess shouldn't be shocking since it's Obsidian even though they don't have exactly have a perfect track record. Actually looking forward to this now although unfortunately Dark Souls II and Infamous: Second Son both come out next month as well.

Hah. I like Cartman in this. And the mocking of RPG mechanics.  :heart:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on February 17, 2014, 05:51:06 PM
Divine Divinity Official Re-Release Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPxQ6p7-3XE)  :why_so_serious:

Edit: Oh. That announcement is almost 2 years old.  :uhrr: I am sorry!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on February 18, 2014, 09:59:24 AM
In the 'things completely coming out of left field' department: Ken Levine is shutting down irrational games.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: murdoc on February 18, 2014, 10:21:56 AM
In the 'things completely coming out of left field' department: Ken Levine is shutting down irrational games.

http://www.irrationalgames.com/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on February 18, 2014, 10:36:34 AM
RIP, the Citizen Kane of game studios.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goreschach on February 18, 2014, 11:15:33 AM
That is just stupid as hell.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 18, 2014, 11:24:42 AM
Here's hope to the end of 'Cinematic' games and a return to making good Games.

Maybe he can KS Freedom Force 3. Or make a system shock style game that includes the fun of system shock without the bloviating of bioshock.

Either way, I'm ok with it. Irrational got too big and too far away from what I liked about their games.

edit: Read the last bit about "so our new venture can focus entirely on replayable narrative" This does sounds like 'less scripted' or is that me?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goreschach on February 18, 2014, 11:25:27 AM
No, you know what? I'm not just doing a one line reply. Fuck you, Ken Levine.

You do not just shut off a company you started two decades ago and fire everyone in it because of your fucking mid-life crisis. Fuck you.

You are a worthless, self absorbed, entitled piece of shit. Fuck you.

Fuck you.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on February 18, 2014, 11:32:20 AM
Why not? He's probably been pushed into making nothing but Bioshock stuff ad naseum because it sells. It takes a lot of balls to take the most popular thing off your menu because you're going to be type-cast by it.

The only way games are going to innovate is if people do shit like this, instead of making Bioshock 5 through 10.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goreschach on February 18, 2014, 11:43:52 AM
Did f13 suddenly become infested with morons?

You don't just show up to work one day and fire everyone, you fucking ingrates.

I don't give two fucks if Ken Levine spent the last half decade wanking off while reading the codex, and now wants to go to a small company and make old school core games. Any normal, well adjusted human being that isn't completely up their own ass realizes that when you're sick of running a company that involves dozens, if not hundreds of people, you fucking step down and put someone else in charge, or sell it, or just slack off all day while the younger people actually do everything.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on February 18, 2014, 11:58:15 AM
Well, at least he didn't call them out to a meeting in the parking lot.

Yeah, this seems like a shitty way to go about it. There's plenty of crappy ways to lose your job in the industry without having to lose it to someone's whim after making wildly successful games.  At least they have nice resumes.   Why not just put someone else in charge and spin off your new venture?



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on February 18, 2014, 12:20:25 PM
"I'm not 'firing everyone because I don't wanna do bioshock anymore', I am merely...slimming down the staff by a huge amount to go make...indie games for...take two? That makes sense right?"


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on February 18, 2014, 12:51:47 PM
Did f13 suddenly become infested with morons?

You don't just show up to work one day and fire everyone, you fucking ingrates.

I don't give two fucks if Ken Levine spent the last half decade wanking off while reading the codex, and now wants to go to a small company and make old school core games. Any normal, well adjusted human being that isn't completely up their own ass realizes that when you're sick of running a company that involves dozens, if not hundreds of people, you fucking step down and put someone else in charge, or sell it, or just slack off all day while the younger people actually do everything.
Yes, this is very odd, especially since Take Two owns (or owned, I guess) Irrational. It's unclear why they would allow Ken to just close up a money making studio of theirs. Normally what happens is the founders and some key people leave to start a new studio and the rest of the team stays behind feeding the goose laying the golden eggs.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on February 18, 2014, 01:01:06 PM
It seems a tremendous dick move, although I am hearing some muttering that Irrational was still in the red because Infinite took forever. Still, it sure looks like 150 people lost their jobs because of a mid-life crisis.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on February 18, 2014, 01:13:38 PM
It seems a tremendous dick move, although I am hearing some muttering that Irrational was still in the red because Infinite took forever. Still, it sure looks like 150 people lost their jobs because of a mid-life crisis.

While many game companies aren't run like businesses, there has be more to it than this since TTWO is a traded entity. They would have the authority to just step in and keep the staff even if Ken wanted to shut it down. Frankly, I question even if he has the power to shut it down if he wanted to.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 18, 2014, 01:26:39 PM
Did f13 suddenly become infested with morons?
You mean like the kind of moron who takes one open letter and fabricates a story to go with it?

He may or may not be a dick, but do you have some kind of info not yet posted here about it? Like "Ken Levine fired everyone on the spot with no warning or severance"? Because the game industry seems to close studios pretty regularly and he does give contact info to solicit placement for the team at the end of the letter.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Quinton on February 18, 2014, 02:13:53 PM
I have no context except the blog post, but my immediate reaction was "wow, guy just fired everyone but his favorite 15 people, that's a pretty shitty reward for everyone else who's been working for him however many years."  Yeah, it seems totally typical for the gamesdev industry where they think "ship, lay everyone off, then maybe hire some of them for a new project" is a reasonable way to treat your employees.  It'd be nice if people knew this was coming and had some time to plan, but I'd be shocked to learn that was what happened (again, games industry being what it is).

Giving people some severance and a career fair is a far cry from handing over the reigns to new management and giving the company (or team or whatnot) a chance to continue with everyone's jobs intact.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on February 18, 2014, 02:30:22 PM
In the 'things completely coming out of left field' department: Ken Levine is shutting down irrational games.

They took forever making a game that didn't sell very well. This was very predictable, and had the studio been successful it wouldn't be closed in this fashion just because one guy got bored. I don't think Ken Levine actually has the power to shut down Irrational, if it's closing it's because Take Two wants it to close.

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It's unclear why they would allow Ken to just close up a money making studio of theirs.

Back-of-the-envelope math indicates to me that the game lost a fair bit of money.

I suspect what happened here is Take Two wanted to close Irrational and considers Levine to be a bit of a brand, or at least a decent promoter, so instead of pitching it as "we're closing a money-losing studio but keeping Levine around" they tried to pitch it as "get ready for some exciting new creative stuff from Ken Levine" but it came out as "Ken Levine is kind of a dick and is firing everybody because reasons."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on February 18, 2014, 02:45:38 PM
The more that I think about it, the more I'm sure Ken doesn't have the power to shut anything down.

Irrational is a subsidiary of 2K games, which is a subsidiary of Take-Two. He's so low on the totem pole, I doubt his actual authority extended beyond day to day management and reporting to his next level superiors.

This letter looks more to me like a guy who is doing PR speak for the fact his segment is getting downsized. I don't think he was the force behind this at all, the mid-life stuff is just window dressing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on February 18, 2014, 03:10:24 PM
It's possible he genuinely did lose interest and wanted to leave, but studios don't close because one dude leaves. There's also no way he could take 15 employees with him as he left - that would be poaching and against whatever contracts those guys have signed.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on February 18, 2014, 03:49:43 PM
I didn't know Bioshock: Infinite lost money.  I suppose I could have looked that up. That changes everything. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on February 18, 2014, 04:05:05 PM
I'm not sure we know for sure, but it sold only 'pretty well' and took a really long time to make, so it's certainly not unlikely.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on February 18, 2014, 04:19:27 PM
I didn't know Bioshock: Infinite lost money.  I suppose I could have looked that up. That changes everything. 

The way companies obscure their information about specific titles it's hard to be sure, but it certainly either lost money or made a very modest amount.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Outlawedprod on February 18, 2014, 05:13:51 PM
It's possible he genuinely did lose interest and wanted to leave, but studios don't close because one dude leaves. There's also no way he could take 15 employees with him as he left - that would be poaching and against whatever contracts those guys have signed.

Didn't the Infinity Ward dudes effectively write the playbook on this?  Sell company and take the talent you like with you when you are ready to start the next big company. Repeat.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on February 18, 2014, 05:23:34 PM
Internet assholes and trolls have broken TotalBiscuit (http://www.reddit.com/r/Cynicalbrit/comments/1xrx27/in_light_of_tb_abandonning_his_own_subreddit/cfe3rgc)

tl;dr TotalBiscuit no longer enjoys playing the games he makes videos for because of all the comments Internet assholes and trolls leave

Not the first time he's done this, and I doubt it'll be the last. Blaming it on trolls is just an excuse - his actual problem starts when preppie call him out on something he's said or done and it turns out that actually...they're right & he's wrong. So he goes off in a sulk and looks for a new place to call home.

First time I remember seeing it  was when he "retired" from Whineplay when someone pointed out that his ideas for game balance in Planetside (1) were dumb as hell.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on February 18, 2014, 05:27:27 PM
It's possible he genuinely did lose interest and wanted to leave, but studios don't close because one dude leaves. There's also no way he could take 15 employees with him as he left - that would be poaching and against whatever contracts those guys have signed.
Didn't the Infinity Ward dudes effectively write the playbook on this?  Sell company and take the talent you like with you when you are ready to start the next big company. Repeat.
Kind of. Vince Zampella and Jason West were the designers of Medal of Honor: Allied Assault but they weren't the cofounders of 2015, Inc. which developed the game for EA. They left to form Infinity Ward and then later left that to form Respawn Entertainment.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on February 18, 2014, 05:49:47 PM


You don't just show up to work one day and fire everyone, you fucking ingrates.

You can say that decision was a little... Irrational....
Yeahhhhh.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on February 18, 2014, 05:51:44 PM
I didn't know Bioshock: Infinite lost money.  I suppose I could have looked that up. That changes everything.  

The way companies obscure their information about specific titles it's hard to be sure, but it certainly either lost money or made a very modest amount.

B-but... Citizen Khan Moment!
(http://i.imgur.com/ITVsnnk.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on February 18, 2014, 06:04:07 PM
Infinity Ward situation was totally different. The two founders were fired, then a lot of employees resigned. Then there were lawsuits.

There's no evidence of bad blood here. Levine is still at Take Two. If Levine tried to break up the company, take his ball and go home, and poach 15 top employees there would be lawsuits here too.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 18, 2014, 07:20:06 PM
You can say that decision was a little... Irrational....
Yeahhhhh.
Win.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on February 18, 2014, 07:54:26 PM
What was the consensus on Kingdoms of Amalur?

It's $5 on Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IA7VCBG?t=slicinc-20&tag=slicinc-20&ascsubtag=wTN53JkYEeOiSH47yKk6Tw0_woXy3_SwR_0_0) right now, $10 for all the DLC.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 18, 2014, 08:06:54 PM
I have not heard people say Levine is a fun person to work with or for. He's been good at managing public perception of himself, that's for sure.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on February 18, 2014, 08:12:35 PM
What was the consensus on Kingdoms of Amalur?

It's $5 on Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IA7VCBG?t=slicinc-20&tag=slicinc-20&ascsubtag=wTN53JkYEeOiSH47yKk6Tw0_woXy3_SwR_0_0) right now, $10 for all the DLC.


The first 20 hours were a lot of fun.  I put it on hold to wait for a patch to balance things out.  They pushed 2 DLCs, never patched and then shuttered.

It's good.  It's not great.  for $10, I'd have to imagine you'd get your money out of it.

It's 50% Skyrim, 20% arcade game, 30% Eurojank like Divinity or Risen.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on February 18, 2014, 08:20:14 PM
What was the consensus on Kingdoms of Amalur?

It's $5 on Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IA7VCBG?t=slicinc-20&tag=slicinc-20&ascsubtag=wTN53JkYEeOiSH47yKk6Tw0_woXy3_SwR_0_0) right now, $10 for all the DLC.

Worth $5. Didn't play any of the DLC but the main game was a fun hack and slash RPG.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on February 18, 2014, 08:20:54 PM
No, you know what? I'm not just doing a one line reply. Fuck you, Ken Levine.

You do not just shut off a company you started two decades ago and fire everyone in it because of your fucking mid-life crisis. Fuck you.

You are a worthless, self absorbed, entitled piece of shit. Fuck you.

Fuck you.

This.

HEY LET'S LAY OFF AN ENTIRE STUDIO BECAUSE OF MY MID-LIFE CRISIS.

Fuck him.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 19, 2014, 06:17:37 AM
People I respect have told me Levine is a jerk.  Haven't met him myself, but I did play some Bioshock.

I'd say $5 is good for Amalaur.  It's not terrible, it just didn't grab me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on February 19, 2014, 06:35:03 AM
It's kind of funny that a game that's on just about everyone's Game of the Year list managed to not make money.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 19, 2014, 07:16:13 AM
It's kind of funny that a game that's on just about everyone's Game of the Year list managed to not make money.
G R A P H I C S


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on February 19, 2014, 07:20:17 AM
It's kind of funny that a game that's on just about everyone's Game of the Year list managed to not make money.

Blowing a budget and make anything unprofitable.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 19, 2014, 08:38:22 AM
Why the new Thief is going to suck:

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“So, this demo. Go in the manor. Crystal clear, no frustration. You know what to do. You know where to go. How you do it – this is where we want your freedom. A lot of opportunities. A lot of ways to play. Aggressive. Non-lethally. It’s up to you… it’s your playground. You had a bad day, last night, you feel aggressive, perfect. Use your arrows and have fun. So this is where we really want to give you all the tools. We’re going to build these maps, this universe, to let you figure out – all the ingredients will be there – what type of fun I want to have today.”
Yet this spoke to our major concern with the demo – one far greater than the insipid, dated nature of the burning bridge sequence. The “ingredients” that featured within the level did not feel general-purpose and consistent. They were not systems; they were hand-placed, hard-coded points of interest. Case in point (no pun intended): rope arrows. Previously, Garrett’s rope arrow stuck to any wooden surface, after which a climbable rope would unfurl from its point of impact. Here, rope arrows only attach to specifically marked anchor points that have been placed by level designers – anchor points that seemed to exist when the only way forward was through the use of a rope arrow.
“It’s a question of production choice,” [Producer Stephane] Roy explains. “If I give you the possibility to shoot the rope arrow everywhere, I will have to cut something. I will have to reduce our intention for the narrative. If it’s everywhere, the cost of it is to block your view, because it’s still a console. It’s still tech. By having a smart level design, by making sure that feels natural that here you can go – not scripted, but you check and if you feel that you should be able to do that and it’s there, the job is done. If it’s not frustrating, the job is done.”

From:
http://sneakybastards.net/theobserver/thief-hands-on/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Job601 on February 19, 2014, 08:55:00 AM
Amalur is a good game with a lot of good content, but the systems are so unbalanced that the game will break for most players who know how to min-max even a little by the time you've seen about a third of it.  Then you're just gliding through the content without the interesting combat, and the game becomes a not as good Skyrim. There are no show-stopper bugs, but it desperately needed a re-balancing patch that it never got.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Miasma on February 19, 2014, 09:42:09 AM
Why the new Thief is going to suck:
I think there is an image for that, it certainly won't make old hardcore fans happy.  Hey I found it:

(http://i.imgur.com/EuglQEO.jpg)

Personally I don't care if it isn't like the old thief games I played.  I want something more like Dishonored, and that's basically what it is.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 19, 2014, 09:46:46 AM
Why the new Thief is going to suck:
That's bizarre, as rope arrows were, as he pointed out, limited to wooden surfaces. Which was pretty limited without feeling that way. I don't see how such a completely retarded thing as anchor point (how does that go during a home inspection? "No, sorry, I'm going to have to put in a stipulation that you remove these rope arrow anchor points.") works.

Why can't people just play Thief 2 and make more of that with prettier graphics?

Reading through the article now. It's amazing how they really don't understand the draw of the game, insult gamers and insert their ego so completely.

Oh my god the console limitations are why rope arrows were nerfed?

The whole Focus thing, seeing footsteps through the wall? Wasn't the genius of Thief being able to use your ears to hear the guards walking, then quickly peeking around the corner when he stops? And that Focus can be disabled...but the entire game is designed around it and it's linked to the story. Hmm? Then he said 'gamify'.  "Focus is a way to essentially gamify Garrett’s nature as a master thief; a shortcut to making players ‘feel’ like a master, rather than by having them master the systems and environment on their own" Um, yeah, fuck you at this point.

A flashing light instead of the classic light gem? If it ain't broke...

This sounds horrible.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 19, 2014, 09:49:29 AM
Ug, reading that graphic, thanks a lot  :oh_i_see:

Setting aside any issues with the job side of Levine's announcement...I have to hope that the core of his change in focus is because Bioshock got so far down that linear, scripted path that seems to be the thing. When you start tossing gameplay because it interferes with your storytelling, you need to get out of the game business.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on February 19, 2014, 10:14:23 AM
So they basically want to make Assassin's Creed in a Victorian setting?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on February 19, 2014, 10:16:12 AM
So they basically want to make Assassin's Creed in a Victorian setting?

Yes. For consoles, and all their restrictions.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on February 19, 2014, 10:24:11 AM
Why the new Thief is going to suck:
http://sneakybastards.net/theobserver/thief-hands-on/

Scripted set-piece bullshit is the worst. A lot of games these days feel like they are barely systems at all, and are instead just bits of filler between one-off scenarios.

Playtesting has a lot to do with this. If you make rope arrows able to attach to any (wooden) surface when you run a playtest some guy is going to fire his arrow to a weird spot and the people watching the playtest are going to freak out.

I hate playtesting. I used to be against focus testing but for playtesting, but now I think even most playtesting is bad. If you watch someone play a game it has a huge amplifying effect on anything that goes "wrong", making even trivial problems appear massive. If you are watching a guy try to solve a puzzle and he gets stuck for 30 seconds it feels like an eternity, then the team rushes out and makes the puzzle simpler because a single person was stuck for less than a minute.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on February 19, 2014, 10:25:08 AM
Welp, that graphic told me everything I needed to know about the new Thief all right. Fuck this game. I might buy it on $5 Steam sale, but if I want to play Ass Creed or Dishonored, well... I have those games, I'll just go play them instead of you skullfucking one of the most beloved stealth game franchises of all time in the name of making it "more like other games that have succeeded and which never would have existed without the original Thief which I apparently TOTALLY did not fucking play."

Wanker.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on February 19, 2014, 10:38:55 AM
As gaming consumers we just need to stop hoping for older games to come back. Instead we should just pay for things that innovate at all, and pay for them over and over again while shunning the derivative shit until it's in the bargain bin.

Far too often we rationalize about buying shit we KNOW is going to be shit because we can get some modicum of entertainment value from it. All that does is give people the money to make even more derivative shit.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on February 19, 2014, 11:12:01 AM
I have no attachment to the old games, so I'm not sure I care about any of that stuff in a specific sense, but what strikes me out of all of that is that you better be awfully certain that your story is good enough if you're letting it dictate the mechanics of the game that directly.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on February 19, 2014, 11:24:29 AM
I recognize I may be a rarity here from people of discussed this with, but I can point to the games on Steam where I've logged the most hours (1000+ combined), and with the exception of Dragon Age, none of them really have any story at all.

I just can't fathom how story has seemingly trumped gameplay almost so insidiously that none of the newer generation of gamers seems to care.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on February 19, 2014, 11:30:24 AM
It's pretty simple. RPGs pretty much always had stories; as those got more complex and involved and interesting, people responded positively. So, people started putting it into other genres, it continued to get more positive response, and here we are.

It really seems to be action games where the 'problem' lies, if there is one, but that is a genre that I'm mostly not interested in so I can't really speak to the plusses and minuses.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on February 19, 2014, 11:30:41 AM
It's not even about story, it's about railroading. Taking the easiest way out because they can't or won't handle anything emergent.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on February 19, 2014, 11:35:06 AM
Well the problem with story as well, is that unless it involves a ton of options and paths, it has no replayability. Thus the railroading. I can't fathom paying $60 to play something once that may take 8 hours.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on February 19, 2014, 11:35:45 AM
It's not even about story, it's about railroading. Taking the easiest way out because they can't or won't handle anything emergent.

That often is a function of narrative though. If you have One Specific Story in mind, you can really only handle a fairly limited amount of branching before it gets incoherent.

Well the problem with story as well, is that unless it involves a ton of options and paths, it has no replayability. Thus the railroading. I can't fathom paying $60 to play something once that may take 8 hours.

I don't really disagree, maybe with the exception of adventure games like Telltale makes, but that's the other genre that has always been story-first, even more than RPGs.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on February 19, 2014, 11:39:04 AM
Borderlands 2 has no branching choices, but the story is still entertaining after the 5th or 6th playthrough.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on February 19, 2014, 11:44:10 AM
Borderlands 2 has no branching choices, but the story is still entertaining after the 5th or 6th playthrough.

Shame about the gameplay though.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on February 19, 2014, 11:45:23 AM
I just can't fathom how story has seemingly trumped gameplay almost so insidiously that none of the newer generation of gamers seems to care.

Easy. Game designers really really want to be movie directors but they have game design skills instead. And designing games means you only have to deal with other gamers/programmers/nerds instead of bitchy people like actors and producers who care about art, and how their characters should act as opposed to thinking the designer/writer is the greatest creator in the history of creation or who think this creation is art because what actor thinks anything beyond "oh it's a video game, this should be fun but not really serious."

See Chris Roberts and Ken Levine as two examples.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on February 19, 2014, 12:08:39 PM
It's weird how no studio knows how to make the smallish sandboxy levels stuff anymore. It's either fullblown gigantic sandbox stuff like Assassin's Creed or A->B->C linear levels where you pick between air vents, sneaking through the front door, or just slaughtering everyone because you can apparently just do that too.

I'm not going to whine about this particular series getting a modern console makeover though. If you really, really just want Thief but with modern graphics and lighting go download and install The Dark Mod (http://www.thedarkmod.com/main/). It is made by, and for Thief autists and captures that feel rather well. It is also now completely standalone, having been rebuilt from the released Doom 3 source code.

If you want multiplayer Thief, go dig up your copy of UT99 (and go get a copy if you didn't have one wtf is wrong with you for missing the best Deathmatcher ever made) and also dig up an installer for Thievery which is also incredibly faithful to the Thief look/feel.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 19, 2014, 12:27:39 PM
Yeah, Thief (http://www.ttlg.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=65) didn't (http://forums.eidosgames.com/forumdisplay.php?f=45) really (http://www.darkloader.net/) go anywhere (http://www.thief-thecircle.com/).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 19, 2014, 12:50:51 PM
The sad thing is in ten years, there will still be activity on those forums and this crappy console generation Thief (Thi4f yuk yuk) will be an uncomfortable memory.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on February 19, 2014, 01:12:44 PM
The bizarre-ass story from Thief 1 is still one of my all-time favorites.  I used to rotate cutscene art from that game as my desktop background for years.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on February 19, 2014, 01:21:33 PM

I'm not going to whine about this particular series getting a modern console makeover though. If you really, really just want Thief but with modern graphics and lighting go download and install The Dark Mod (http://www.thedarkmod.com/main/). It is made by, and for Thief autists and captures that feel rather well. It is also now completely standalone, having been rebuilt from the released Doom 3 source code.

Reeaaalllllly.

Excuse me, I must return some video tapes.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Miasma on February 19, 2014, 01:28:24 PM
I'm not really looking forward to the story for the new thief either.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 19, 2014, 03:25:07 PM
The guilt over taking her prize possession, her...grappling hook?

I know what I'm getting my fiancee next Valentine's Day!

As gaming consumers we just need to stop hoping for older games to come back. Instead we should just pay for things that innovate at all, and pay for them over and over again while shunning the derivative shit until it's in the bargain bin.
This is why I back stuff on KS, even if it looks like it might not work out. For every TUG there is a Kingdom Come, and these dev houses need to know there is still a market for those games despite what the industry thinks behind it's walls of ignorance.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on February 19, 2014, 05:17:50 PM
I think the pendulum is starting to swing away from these types of games.

Look at the recent reveal of The Order for PS4. Met with a lot of "ho hums" and the developer interviews sound like self-parody. "It's totally not a QTE", talking up "walk and talk" like it's a great feature, using the word "filmic" three times a sentence. The game is basically AAA Video Game: The game, but the reaction to the reveal is muted. Meanwhile gameplay centric games like Minecraft, Rust, DayZ, etc, are blowing up.

Something that happened with platformers is that for a while they were super popular, then they imploded, and what was left were a few high-quality ones like Mario while most other ones stopped existing or were extremely niche. I think the same thing is going to happen with these "cinematic experience" games - they just cost too much to make and are too samey for everyone to be making them.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on February 19, 2014, 05:22:10 PM
When even SOE is getting on the Minecraft wagon, you know the pendulum is swinging the right direction.

That doesn't mean we still don't have a few more years of backlog from stuff that started before the wind shifted. Sort of like the bad MMOs.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 20, 2014, 04:41:40 AM
I don't even know what it is, but Lestac (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG0QBLD5Szs) looks beautiful to me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 20, 2014, 06:02:41 AM
I don't even know what it is, but Lestac (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG0QBLD5Szs) looks beautiful to me.

Looks like a smallish platformer with combat being replaced by a gated barter system that is secretly a lecture about the nature of the industrial beast.

Basically, indie wank?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on February 20, 2014, 07:40:08 AM
Ran into this on Reddit:

(http://i.imgur.com/R8iZNyX.gif)

I've ruled out Titanfall and The Order (that video 'leak' looked so QTE bad).

Destiny & Division I think still top the list for me.

Dark Souls, Witcher, Watch Dogs and Thief all look like Steam Sale pickups maybe.

Looking like a go broke kind of year.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 20, 2014, 07:48:28 AM
Watch Dogs, Destiny, Witcher 3, Phantom Pain.

That's all I care about.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on February 20, 2014, 07:57:00 AM
Witcher 3 is a definite release day acquisition for me. Dragon Age might be but I'm not convinced it's going to be worth it. Otherwise it's steam sale year for me.

Though if Creative Assembly's Warhammer Fantasy Battle RTS gets released this year it's something I'll keep an eye out for.

edit: my number 1 "game" for the year is without a doubt the next CK2 dlc short of a disaster of epic proportions


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on February 20, 2014, 08:04:19 AM
The gaming industry has totally left me behind.  I'm idlely curious about Witcher 3 and Dragon Age, but couldn't care less about the rest of them.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on February 20, 2014, 08:41:22 AM
Witcher, Dragon Age, Destiny, and the Order are on my watch list.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on February 20, 2014, 08:50:53 AM
Watch Dogs, Dark Souls II and Witcher 3, though I'll probably wait on both for Steam sales. The Division... maybe. Thief can go fuck itself.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 20, 2014, 09:05:30 AM
Most of those seem like Steam sales to me.

Rocksmith 2015 is on my list for launch purchases. Rather, it is my list for launch purchases.

Possibly some great multiplayer thing that comes out and f13 adopts it, as I'd want to play in the two week window before everyone drops it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on February 20, 2014, 10:44:48 AM
Here is my 2014:

Buy list:
Banished
South Park: The Stick of Truth
Tropico 5
Mount & Blade 2
The Witcher 3
Beneath a Steel Sky 2
Xenonauts (UFO/X-COM remake)

Watch-list/Depending on reviews:
Galactic Civilizations 3
Jagged Alliance: Flashback (turn-based!)
Etherium (RTS)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on February 20, 2014, 11:27:25 AM
Here is my 2014:

Buy list:
Banished
South Park: The Stick of Truth
Tropico 5
Mount & Blade 2
The Witcher 3
Beneath a Steel Sky 2
Xenonauts (UFO/X-COM remake)

Watch-list/Depending on reviews:
Galactic Civilizations 3
Jagged Alliance: Flashback (turn-based!)
Etherium (RTS)


Has Mount & Blade 2 been announced for release this year?  :grin: :drill: :drill:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 20, 2014, 11:41:25 AM
Dark Souls 2 is really all I care for in 2014. There's room for lots of surprises and I know there's many games I will greatly enjoy, some among those listed before and some totally unexpected and unknown, but the only one I am really, totally, utterly looking forward to is Dark Souls 2.

EDIT: Wasteland 2.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on February 20, 2014, 11:43:43 AM
Woah woah woah. Tropic 5 is coming out?

ZOMG!  :drill:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on February 20, 2014, 11:56:59 AM
Woah woah woah. Tropic 5 is coming out?

ZOMG!  :drill:

Even better: Release April 2014!



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on February 20, 2014, 12:06:16 PM
Has Mount & Blade 2 been announced for release this year?  :grin: :drill: :drill:

Crap. Gamestar.de has it listed as 2014, but now that you mentioned it I did some independent googling and am unable to come up with a verfication for that. Let's hope for the best.

(http://i.imgur.com/1WJ1r1F.png)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on February 20, 2014, 12:09:23 PM
Woah woah woah. Tropic 5 is coming out?

ZOMG!  :drill:

Even better: Release April 2014!



OMG I'LL BE OUT OF TAX SEASON.  :thumbs_up:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on February 20, 2014, 12:17:43 PM
Surprising noone, DA:I is probably the only automatic pre-order/day 1 buy for me in that image. If M&B 2 actually exists someday it would join the list of course.

Maybe Mad Max, but I don't know enough yet.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on February 20, 2014, 01:18:31 PM
Watch Dogs, Destiny and The Division are probably going to be day-one games for me and I've already got Titanfall ordered based on my experience with the beta.

Dark Souls 2 I'll pick up once it gets it's first price drop and Mad Max is a wildcard - I'm curious, but can definitely wait.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on February 20, 2014, 01:47:34 PM
DS2 at some point.  I never finished either of the previous games, but I feel it's worth buying to make sure these types of games are still being made.

Watch Dogs looks good, but Uplay.  It's annoying.

Other than that, my list for this year is slim.  I've already purchased DivinityOS, but not really getting into it until it releases.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on February 20, 2014, 02:04:57 PM
If someone can convince me that Dark Souls II's PC port is about a million times better than the last one, I'll give it a shot on Steam Sale.  They really shat the last port out and burned their bridge plenty good, though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sjofn on February 20, 2014, 02:18:56 PM
DA:I, Tropico 5, and The Sims 4 ( :why_so_serious: ) are the only ones I know I'll be buying immediately this year. I will probably break down and buy Banished before it goes on sale, but we'll see. I keep waffling on it, and I'm not even sure why.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Moaner on February 20, 2014, 03:33:22 PM
I'm limiting myself to Infamous Second Son, Dark Souls 2, Driveclub, and a couple of indie titles this year.  I have so much shit laying around waiting to be played, it's ridiculous.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on February 21, 2014, 09:11:17 AM
It's kind of funny that a game that's on just about everyone's Game of the Year list managed to not make money.

As of July 2013, Bioshock Infinite had sold 4 million copies according to Take Two's financial report. If it was unprofitable, that sounds to me like reason to just remove Levine rather than shitcan the entire studio. Of course, this seems to be an issue with all too many of the big name publishers out there. There's no way a video game should lose money when it sells 4 million fucking copies.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on February 21, 2014, 09:40:18 AM
Here's to the next video game collapse!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maledict on February 21, 2014, 11:21:03 AM
It's kind of funny that a game that's on just about everyone's Game of the Year list managed to not make money.

As of July 2013, Bioshock Infinite had sold 4 million copies according to Take Two's financial report. If it was unprofitable, that sounds to me like reason to just remove Levine rather than shitcan the entire studio. Of course, this seems to be an issue with all too many of the big name publishers out there. There's no way a video game should lose money when it sells 4 million fucking copies.

Normally I would agree but this game took 6 years to make. This isn't a fault of the industry or AAA games, it's simply horrendous, jaw-dropping bad project management. Any industry would react the same - 4 million copies is great and all, but not when it cost 6 years and however many millions to make.

The amount of changes and cut content this game saw has it verging into Duke Nukem territory.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Draegan on February 21, 2014, 12:04:02 PM
Is Destiny a game that is going to force me to buy a PS4?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ard on February 21, 2014, 12:15:41 PM
No, since it's also releasing for ps3 and xbox 360, although that alone should be setting off alarm bells.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 21, 2014, 12:54:20 PM
Ignore that PS4 until after it comes out in the homeland of those that made it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Miasma on February 21, 2014, 12:59:09 PM
Tomorrow?

I can't tell if I got caught in the sarchasm.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Miasma on February 21, 2014, 01:07:45 PM
What with the new fangled ability to easily share from the ps4 there have been quite a few twitch streams of people playing Thief who bought from stores/countries that don't care about abiding by the street release date.  It's sounding really bad.  As in not only really bad for oldschool Thief fans but also bad for people like me who thought it would be as good/similar to Dishonored.

Is steam's refund policy still atrocious, even if you just want to cancel a preorder?

As a note twitch also bans you if you stream games that haven't been "officially" released yet.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 21, 2014, 01:10:01 PM
I don't know when anything happens, but I'll still wait a bit.  I even forget what game is supposed to make me want a PS4.  It's sure as hell not all the games I already own.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on February 21, 2014, 03:34:28 PM
It's kind of funny that a game that's on just about everyone's Game of the Year list managed to not make money.

As of July 2013, Bioshock Infinite had sold 4 million copies according to Take Two's financial report. If it was unprofitable, that sounds to me like reason to just remove Levine rather than shitcan the entire studio. Of course, this seems to be an issue with all too many of the big name publishers out there. There's no way a video game should lose money when it sells 4 million fucking copies.

Normally I would agree but this game took 6 years to make. This isn't a fault of the industry or AAA games, it's simply horrendous, jaw-dropping bad project management. Any industry would react the same - 4 million copies is great and all, but not when it cost 6 years and however many millions to make.

The amount of changes and cut content this game saw has it verging into Duke Nukem territory.

Pretty much. The Last of Us was also a story driven AAA game, but only took 3 years or so to make and from the sounds of it had a smaller team. It seems to be a financial success for Naughty Dog and topped a lot of GOTY lists as well.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 21, 2014, 05:04:59 PM
It took them 6 years for that?  :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on February 21, 2014, 05:07:46 PM
If you can't tell by the systems that don't quite fit together, it likely underwent many redesigns.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 22, 2014, 02:16:40 AM
Free to Play - The Movie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-RKqGaNq-Y). A Valve documentary about DOTA players.

Quote
“Free To Play is a feature-length documentary that follows three professional gamers from around the world as they compete for a million dollar prize in the first Dota 2 International Tournament. In recent years, E Sports has surged in popularity to become one of the most widely-practiced forms of competitive sport today. A million dollar tournament changed the landscape of the gaming world and for those elite players at the top of their craft, nothing would ever be the same again. Produced by Valve, the film documents the challenges and sacrifices required of players to compete at the highest level.”


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on February 22, 2014, 05:38:12 AM
The gaming industry has totally left me behind.  I'm idlely curious about Witcher 3 and Dragon Age, but couldn't care less about the rest of them.

I feel the opposite at the moment. After suffering through a lack of good new releases the last several months, I'm looking forward to Infamous, Dark Souls 2 and South Park which all come out next month. Further down the road (hopefully) this year I'm keeping an eye on Evolve (from L4D's creators), Dragon Age, Pillars of Eternity, and maybe Destiny, The Divison, or Watch Dogs. Hopefully Hex will be hitting beta at some point. I loved the Fight Night series so I'm curious to see how the upcoming UFC game turns out. Also enjoyed Dead Island so I'm hoping Dying Light will be good. Also just got my keys for the Shadowrun Berlin campaign that launches in a week. I feel like I've got plenty to look forward to right now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on February 22, 2014, 10:36:45 AM
Normally I would agree but this game took 6 years to make. This isn't a fault of the industry or AAA games, it's simply horrendous, jaw-dropping bad project management. Any industry would react the same - 4 million copies is great and all, but not when it cost 6 years and however many millions to make.

The amount of changes and cut content this game saw has it verging into Duke Nukem territory.

Which is why it was so hilarious reading Scott's (Lum) Facebook comments on the story.  So many devs saying, "See, this is why AAA Games are dead/ dying."

Erm.. run a business like a business and produce or get gone.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 26, 2014, 12:39:06 AM
Mighty Quest for Epic Loot (http://store.steampowered.com/app/239220/) reaches Open Beta. Free to Play, a mix between Dungeon Keeper, Diablo, and Clash of Clans. Worth a quick look to see if it's your thing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 26, 2014, 01:30:10 AM
Mighty Quest is not a good video game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 26, 2014, 01:45:04 AM
I agree, it ended up being very disappointing. But they just revamped a lot of things and hey, there's people here playing Dungeon Keeper on mobiles or that Marvel thing, so they might want to take a look.

On the topic of dubious action RPGs, How did you like Dead Island Epidemic?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 26, 2014, 02:04:16 AM
Dead Island Epidemic forgot about something called "loot." I can see how they could overlook it though, because it's not like the most important part of anything related to isometric games at all.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 26, 2014, 03:19:03 AM
Giveaway for the beta of Velvet Sundown (http://www.gameitems.com/get-your-velvet-sundown-closed-beta-key-giveaway-672.html), a strange multiplayer RPG.

Quote
Jump into the role of a star and chat your way into deep drama (  :awesome_for_real: ) .

"With its international playboys, glamourous high heels, luxury yachts and beautiful sunsets, we can't wait to get back into Mary's world." -WIRED UK

Play the people
Dramagame is not about beating the game but chatting with real people. Your social skills are challenged as you manipulate your way through and into the drama. Make new friends through shared experiences and enjoy quality time online with your existing ones.

Start as the star
Dramagame will set you up with a new identity each time. You are that someone, actually someone rich and famous. Your co-players will reward you for acting like a rock star - for being fun, etertaining and pushing the story forward. You have history, you have motives and you have reasons to chat. Find your inner demons and angels as you explore your id.

Life is too short to grind away
Dramagame has a running start directly into the best gameplay. No grinding for levels required. No grinding required to learn the game. People from various backgrounds aged 16 - 50 are already enjoying the game, so can you. Use your browser to enter the game and get a full repeatable experience the length of a TV-episode.

Holy Grail of games
Dramagame is massively emergent gameplay. We've made the storylines, yet you control the story and the twists along the way. No harvesting the crops day in-and-out. No twitching about with guns. No scoreboards to beat to death. Instead, Dramagame is deep, truly social entertainment.

Seems like the foundations they could successfully build the Jane Austen MMORPG on.
Only 400 keys left.

EDIT: "Gameplay" and more info in a 2 minutes video. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-26LYFReSc)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on February 26, 2014, 08:35:53 AM
Mighty Quest is not a good video game.


So strange because the videos make it look amazing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on February 26, 2014, 04:33:01 PM
Sign up for the Tropico 5 closed beta here:

http://betatest.kalypsomedia.com/TROPICO5

Requires a Kalypso gameaccount as well as an account on the Kalypso forums, so some form-filling needed if those aren't created yet.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 26, 2014, 08:13:16 PM
Mighty Quest is not a good video game.
So strange because the videos make it look amazing.
Remember the trailer for Dead Island? Yea.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 27, 2014, 05:29:02 AM
Sign up for the Tropico 5 closed beta here:

OH KAY.....


IS THAT ABRAHAM LINCOLN?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on February 27, 2014, 08:00:52 AM
It looks like their clumsy attempt of a capitalist El Commandante.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 27, 2014, 09:09:55 AM
Sign up for the Tropico 5 closed beta here:

OH KAY.....


IS THAT ABRAHAM LINCOLN?

Fidel Lincoln. Abraham Castro. I'm partial to the latter.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on March 01, 2014, 08:38:19 AM
Quote
"Free-to-play" misleading advertising
By Brendan Sinclair

European Commission meets with devs to improve consumer protections, wants them to stop calling games free if they have in-app purchases

Complaints from consumers who unwittingly purchased in-game upgrades in free-to-play titles have become common enough that the European Commission is taking action on the matter. EC members are meeting with tech companies and national enforcement authorities today and tomorrow to go over concerns about consumer protections in the burgeoning market, the group announced today.

"Consumers and in particular children need better protection against unexpected costs from in-app purchases," consumer policy commissioner Neven Mimica said in a statement. "National enforcement authorities and the European Commission are discussing with industry how to address this issue which not only causes financial harm to consumers but can also put at stake the credibility of this very promising market. Coming up with concrete solutions as soon as possible will be a win-win for all."

The Consumer Protection Cooperation and EC member states have released a list of common positions on the subject, with misleading advertising at the top.

"The use of the word 'free' (or similar unequivocal terms) as such, and without any appropriate qualifications, should only be allowed for games which are indeed free in their entirety, or in other words which contain no possibility of making in-app purchases, not even on an optional basis," the group said.

Beyond that, the CPC and EC want developers to cut out any direct calls for purchasing in-game items (such as "Buy now!" or "Upgrade now!") in any title likely to appeal to children. On top of that, in-app purchases should not be made without the consumer's explicit consent, and all apps and app listings should prominently feature an e-mail address to which customers can direct questions before they decide to play or even download a title.

The EC has said the purpose of the meetings is to make sure there's a common understanding between authorities and game companies on these subjects, but said it will work with national consumer rights enforcement bodies to follow through with any action deemed necessary.

Hmm. Will be interesting to see what (or if at all) this will lead to.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 01, 2014, 09:15:28 AM
The nanny state is strong in Europe.

Don't give kids your passwords. Problem solved.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on March 01, 2014, 11:44:12 AM
But kids will get passwords from their parents, no matter what anyone says. Hence the initiative.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on March 01, 2014, 10:04:46 PM
It's a good move.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on March 01, 2014, 11:44:16 PM
Any initiative that makes the difference between free and free* clear is good in my opinion.

* the product is free except if you decide to use it


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Xanthippe on March 02, 2014, 02:02:29 PM
If my kids played something with in game purchases, they asked. If they were too little to ask, they're too little to play the game alone. If they had bought something without asking, they would not have not been allowed to play anymore.

I don't see this being a problem the government needs to solve. It's a parenting problem.

Certainly, games for children ought to give parents proper tools for in game purchases (a special password for purchasing, and so on).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on March 02, 2014, 03:56:58 PM
But kids will get passwords from their parents, no matter what anyone says. Hence the initiative.

Then these people are lazy or stupid and deserve to pay for it. Boo hoo, my heart bleeds.

My kids don't have my PC password, the iPad password or the Admin password to their PC.  I'm not giving it to them, ever, because then they'll do shit I don't want them to do.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on March 02, 2014, 05:15:27 PM
When I was a kid I figured out my mom's Internet password so I could download porn when she wasn't home.  I'm pretty sure she never caught on, seeing as she never changed the password.   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 02, 2014, 05:18:36 PM
But kids will get passwords from their parents, no matter what anyone says. Hence the initiative.

Then these people are lazy or stupid and deserve to pay for it. Boo hoo, my heart bleeds.

My kids don't have my PC password, the iPad password or the Admin password to their PC.  I'm not giving it to them, ever, because then they'll do shit I don't want them to do.

This. Nothing good will ever come from kids getting passwords.

Exhibit A for me is: Me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on March 02, 2014, 06:21:51 PM
But kids will get passwords from their parents, no matter what anyone says. Hence the initiative.

Then these people are lazy or stupid and deserve to pay for it. Boo hoo, my heart bleeds.

My kids don't have my PC password, the iPad password or the Admin password to their PC.  I'm not giving it to them, ever, because then they'll do shit I don't want them to do.

I don't understand this vehemence. Do you want legislation or lack thereof out of spite?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on March 02, 2014, 07:41:06 PM
It's not as simple as "don't give your kids your app store password". There are "convenience" features that these stores/OSes have/had such as not requiring you to enter your password for, say, 15 minutes, after entering your password the first time. So what happens is you enter your password on your kids device to download a "free" app for them and then walk away not realizing that they can now buy whatever in-app purchases they want for the next 15 minutes. Apple had a settle a lawsuit about this and now in iOS, at least, (haven't checked on Android/Google Play) there's a (buried) setting that let's you turn off in-app purchases completely (independent of the App Store password timeout setting).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on March 03, 2014, 02:57:36 AM
Some news on "Carmageddon : Reincarnation" (funded back in June 2012, with an est. delivery date of March 2013 :P) : they'll soon be on Steam Early Access (March 27th), still in a pre-alpha state. After the DLC debacle of last autumn (basically, they first promised future content free for backers, then, after an announcement, it sounded like they wanted them to pay for it, before finally giving up after the uproar) and an extended radio silence, this looked like on permanent vapourware status and verging on the "scam" side, but then the early access announcement arrived, plus this "Damage Tech" video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP2rlFnqRrg

Which fits the Carmageddon style very nicely, I must say. Hopefully a fun game will come along as well :P

Here is a short summary of the project development:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmageddon:_Reincarnation


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on March 03, 2014, 07:06:50 AM
But kids will get passwords from their parents, no matter what anyone says. Hence the initiative.

Then these people are lazy or stupid and deserve to pay for it. Boo hoo, my heart bleeds.

My kids don't have my PC password, the iPad password or the Admin password to their PC.  I'm not giving it to them, ever, because then they'll do shit I don't want them to do.

I don't understand this vehemence. Do you want legislation or lack thereof out of spite?

I like the legislation just to spite marketing people, who are soul-sucking lying whores.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on March 03, 2014, 09:16:03 AM
Every business needs to have Marketing people or you don't have jobs.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on March 03, 2014, 11:40:37 AM
Every business needs to have Marketing people or you don't have jobs.

 :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on March 03, 2014, 12:21:18 PM
Every business needs to have Marketing people or you don't have jobs.

Not the same.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on March 03, 2014, 12:34:13 PM
Of course it's not.  Like Buddhism.

 :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 03, 2014, 12:35:58 PM
Apple has a huge marketing department, but they still lost jobs.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on March 03, 2014, 12:40:01 PM
 :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on March 03, 2014, 12:54:10 PM
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Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 03, 2014, 01:37:46 PM
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Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 03, 2014, 02:58:58 PM
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Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on March 03, 2014, 05:32:55 PM
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Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 03, 2014, 05:42:24 PM
I would beat the average so hard.

Edit: Fuck me, it's real: http://vodo.net/nsfw?referer=EpicBundle&source=epicbundle


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on March 03, 2014, 06:23:27 PM
I would beat the average so hard.

Edit: Fuck me, it's real: http://vodo.net/nsfw?referer=EpicBundle&source=epicbundle

Gift me 'My Girlfriend is a President'  :drillf:
And I will give you a Radicalthon.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on March 03, 2014, 09:18:03 PM
I'm probably going to buy the bundle just for that game. Gotta support english eroge releases.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 04, 2014, 06:41:10 AM
Apple has a huge marketing department, but they still lost jobs.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/85916/Angry_coach_fist.gif)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on March 04, 2014, 01:35:49 PM
New press Release from Sony.

As of March 2nd Sony has sold through 6 Million PS 4 Consoles including 380,000 from the Japanese Launch.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on March 04, 2014, 01:57:45 PM
Second week Japanese sales: 50k. Horrible attach rates in every region.

The highest profile number (console sales) looks good, but everything else looks bad IMO.

I predict that this gen is going to end up being a large contraction.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on March 04, 2014, 02:04:41 PM
There just aren't enough "Japanese" titles for it yet, which is to be expected given that it released outside of Japan first.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on March 04, 2014, 02:13:16 PM
There aren't enough any region titles for it yet, nor are there going to be for many months.

People are buying the hardware to own the hardware, not to play the software. Given "day 1" culture and how long it's been since new consoles came out that can still mean good sales for the first few months, but I expect they are going to decline pretty severely after that.

There aren't many titles coming out for PS4 that are the best version of that title (taking into account quality, release timing and price) and fewer exclusives. The same is true of XB1, though Titanfall is at least one high-profile title.

Basically if you didn't buy a PS4 already there's no reason to buy one this year barring a price drop.

Japan...it's true that there aren't many "Japanese" titles for it, but that isn't going to change any time soon. AFAIK there are very few Japanese games coming out for it any time in the near future.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on March 04, 2014, 02:17:25 PM
So it's been basically 14 years since the PS2, and I doubt the sales of the PS3 and PS4 combined will touch the PS2's total.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Miasma on March 04, 2014, 02:49:47 PM
So it's been basically 14 years since the PS2, and I doubt the sales of the PS3 and PS4 combined will touch the PS2's total.
If some guy from neogaf with too much time on his hands is to be trusted the ps4 alone is currently outselling the ps2.

(http://i.imgur.com/0uoSSYO.png)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on March 04, 2014, 04:53:44 PM
Buying behavior has changed a lot since the PS2 days, as have worldwide release schedules, etc.

The PS2 wasn't available outside of Japan for about 6 months.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on March 04, 2014, 04:58:08 PM
The curves there are curving in the opposite direction too; PS4 is sort of flattening out, where the PS2 starts out slow and then sharply curves upward.

It's still too early for any kind of final say of course, but it's not a very promising trend right now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Morat20 on March 04, 2014, 05:21:57 PM
Said guy needs to adjust for population growth too.

And extrapolating from that little data is probably not going to end well for him


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: apocrypha on March 04, 2014, 10:46:27 PM
Said guy needs to adjust for population growth too.

Um. Population growth since 2000 in the developed world isn't large. Europe's population has actually got smaller AFAIK.

I think that far more important is the way that gaming has become so much more mainstream since 2000 so the potential market for consoles has increased. PS4 and XBone are also cheaper at launch, in real terms, than previous generations.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on March 04, 2014, 11:54:53 PM
If sales are down for this generation, it isn't really hard to understand.  New hardware is expensive.  The backwards compatibility is nil.  Once you have those two facts out of the way, it comes down simply looking at what significant things either of the new consoles offer that the former generation doesn't.  Here is a list of all those things:







(there is so far exactly nothing.  Fucking nothing at all)

This isn't going to change until there are several killer apps that are either exclusive to the new consoles, or are somehow just dramatically better than what you can get on other consoles.  Given the stupidly long production times we have these days for AAA games, it is going to take a while.

I cannot think of a new console generation that offered so little over the previous generation as this one.  Nothing comes remotely close in my mind.

Atari/Coleco/Intellivision ---> NES    - MASSIVE leap in every way. 
NES ---> SNES    - no comparison.  We started to believe that we could actually bring the arcade experience home with us.
SNES ---> Playstation   - big leap in graphical and audio fidelity, and shift to optical media
PS1  ---> PS2   - another big leap in graphical fidelity.  Digital Surround via optical output.  Played goddamn DvD discs!
PS2 ---> PS3   - HUGE leap from SD to HD.  Massively more powerful.  Total game changer.  Blu Ray!!  Downloadable games.  Real multiplayer!  Hard disk storage.  Media center functionality.  Netflix, for chrissakes.
PS3 ---> PS4   - eh, I guess it is faster, but the physical proof isn't terribly compelling so far.  Social media improvements?  I actually hate that part of it, but there you go.

The new generation simply isn't differentiating itself in any important way, and that is a Marketing 101 failure.  We are buying them out of habit at this point. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 05, 2014, 05:49:55 AM
Since you mentioned it, if the PS4 could play PS3 games OR EVEN PS2 GAMES, I'd have one already.

Checking Ebay, I can get a PS3 60GB for less than $200.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on March 05, 2014, 06:49:23 AM
Said guy needs to adjust for population growth too.

Um. Population growth since 2000 in the developed world isn't large. Europe's population has actually got smaller AFAIK.

I think that far more important is the way that gaming has become so much more mainstream since 2000 so the potential market for consoles has increased. PS4 and XBone are also cheaper at launch, in real terms, than previous generations.

I think it's that consumers, despite what we like to say about them on this site, have developed more savvy on their purchasing decisions over the last 20 years of gaming. I think they realize this generation of consoles isn't really offering them anything more than upgraded shine.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Morat20 on March 05, 2014, 07:11:51 AM
Said guy needs to adjust for population growth too.

Um. Population growth since 2000 in the developed world isn't large. Europe's population has actually got smaller AFAIK.

I think that far more important is the way that gaming has become so much more mainstream since 2000 so the potential market for consoles has increased. PS4 and XBone are also cheaper at launch, in real terms, than previous generations.
Enough so in terms of 'people who can afford it' since 2000, at least.

Not that it matters, as I tend to agree with Paelos and Cyrexx here. I know exactly one person who got the PS4. Everyone else I know (a group with PS3s or Xboxs or both) basically said "Why? What would be the point? Maybe next year, if some really great games come out and they figure out how to let me play my old stuff".

Nobody wants to pay 500 bucks to lose their entire games library in return for...um, two or three games and some shiny accessories nobody wanted.

Heck, I bought my son a PS3 for Christmas. The PS4 didn't cross either of our minds.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 05, 2014, 07:50:35 AM
If I could tap the PS3 catalog, I'd consider it. I haven't played the Unsharted stuff, and goddamned RDR that never made it to the PC. And I do like the occasional driving game and the annual football fix.

But it's almost impossible to make the argument for the high price for something that I'd only use for a handful of exclusives and then would be an expensive paperweight vs the PC which can do all of everything but the handful.

And the XBone: my fiancee flat out told me she will not have a camera pointed at us on the sofa and I agree with her. You creepy, MS.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on March 05, 2014, 08:05:24 AM
Since you mentioned it, if the PS4 could play PS3 games OR EVEN PS2 GAMES, I'd have one already.


I would too.  I think it is unconscionable, and beyond stupid, that they don't make backwards compatibility a priority.  I don't care two shits that the architecture is different.  Have a bit of foresight, fuckwits.  And when you don't have the foresight, build an emulator or put the old chips in the new machine.

And as far as it goes, same with the controllers.  The old controllers are not compatible with this generation for no good reason at all.

Ironically, Nintendo is actually getting a lot of this right.  Problem for them (among other things) is that their more recent back catalog from the Wii is worthless.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 05, 2014, 08:26:53 AM
I don't care for the Sony controller layout vs the MS one (I like the symmetric sticks), but that big honkin' gimmick pad in the center? Ugh.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on March 05, 2014, 08:42:49 AM
I'm right there with you guys re: backwards compatibility.  My PS3 was stolen about 4 months ago, and instead of upgrading to a PS4, I bought a new PS3 as well as a PS2(I accidentally bought a non-backwards compatible PS3 and didn't want to be hassled with returning/replacing it).  Sony didn't make a cent off of me.

Unsharted

Perhaps unintentional, but I laughed.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 05, 2014, 08:50:50 AM
Perhaps.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on March 07, 2014, 02:11:33 AM
1990's Jones in the Fast Lane (http://home.broadpark.no/~kboye/jones/jones.html). More addictive than any Facebook/mobile game I've ever played.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on March 07, 2014, 04:34:07 AM
1990's Jones in the Fast Lane (http://home.broadpark.no/~kboye/jones/jones.html). More addictive than any Facebook/mobile game I've ever played.

Yep, played it when it came out, tons of fun  :heart:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on March 07, 2014, 04:43:47 AM
Damn you! When it came out I looked for it everywhere, but in pre-internet Italy that meant pretty much... nowhere. There were a few mail order stores that you could contact through videogames magazines, and then there was the few videogames store that always had absolutely random stuff. Sometimes that led to incredible rare finds, but usually if they didn't have something there was no way for them to order it. Piracy helped, but didn't have any MS-DOS pusher at the time. I know you know all of this, mostly typing cause it feels good to remember all that. I'm curious though, where did you get your uncommon/unusual games back then?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Tebonas on March 07, 2014, 04:44:32 AM
Were the Graphics really that bad it in the original game? Wow, how time makes everything look better!  :awesome_for_real:

Anyway, here goes my afternoon!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on March 07, 2014, 04:52:14 AM
Damn you! When it came out I looked for it everywhere, but in pre-internet Italy that meant pretty much... nowhere. There were a few mail order stores that you could contact through videogames magazines, and then there was the few videogames store that always had absolutely random stuff. Sometimes that led to incredible rare finds, but usually if they didn't have something there was no way for them to order it. Piracy helped, but didn't have any MS-DOS pusher at the time. I know you know all of this, mostly typing cause it feels good to remember all that. I'm curious though, where did you get your uncommon/unusual games back then?

Here where I live (Modena), there was an amazing, indipendent (meaning, pre-Gamestop etc. era) videogame store, called "Orsa Maggiore", managed by two VERY passionate guys, which imported a lot of games for basically every platform, from the early Atari (260, 800xl) days 'til the end of the nineties, then unfortunately it shut down. It also had a section entirely devoted to boardgames, AD&D, "librogame"  :grin: and other stuff.

Yeah, basically the closest thing to heaven on earth, for me  :why_so_serious: :heart:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on March 07, 2014, 06:38:19 AM
Roma was shitty. The craziest find for me was a copy of the cassette UK version of M.U.L.E. in 1987 in a toy/book store that had barely any idea of what videogames were. And when I finally put my nerdy fingers on the flatbox of Bard's Tale it was in a tiny computer (not games) store of a supersmall town in the mountains of Piemonte. They had less than ten random games, they never thought they could "get rid" of that stuff. It totally felt like finding the Holy Grail.

The store that is closer to my heart though was this one literally by the Vatican Wall, it sits on a side of it. They were official, had lots of original games and systems, but in the back they had a few Amigas and C64 with some crazy hardware dangling out of the open cases that they pumped out copies of a huge amount of popular and unpopular games by the minute. There was a huge line every day since you were supposed to choose the games from a list, handwritten scribbled in a costantly updated notebook, and they made you disk copies on the fly. Since they were pretty cheap it wasn't rare for someone to get ten games, maybe on multidisk, and for the line to get very long. There went so many of my Saturday afternoons.

The best part? The store is still there, 30 years later. They don't sell games anymore, only cell phones and small appliances, but made a point of not changing the sign. I took this photo myself a month ago  :heart:


(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3584773/Gemar%202013%20small.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on March 10, 2014, 04:17:13 AM
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Game - 30th Anniversary Edition (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/1g84m0sXpnNCv84GpN2PLZG/the-hitchhiker-s-guide-to-the-galaxy-game-30th-anniversary-edition).

My first try ended just like the first time I played it (the original version) all those years ago (almost made it out before the house fell down)  :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on March 10, 2014, 02:45:57 PM
So, Costume Quest II announced.  People actually liked Costume Quest enough to warrant this?  

edit: As an aside, I need to stop reading the /games subreddit.  It's like the reverse of every games forum I've ever been on. Everyone loves every game by default and it was the most fun they had ever had when it was released.  Shit, they're actually praising Mad World.  It's a bit unsettling.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 10, 2014, 02:53:09 PM
I accidentally bought it on two consoles and maybe Steam.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 11, 2014, 02:42:34 PM
http://www.polygon.com/2014/3/11/5495854/texas-gov-rick-perry-esa-award-game-industry-growth

Stole this from Facebook. Pretty sure both the rise and collapse happened under him.

Maybe the award will melt within 8 years.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on March 11, 2014, 03:10:39 PM
He'll probably just forget where he put it after 2 months.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on March 12, 2014, 03:03:58 AM
Hotline Miami LA meets the Beastie Boys?

LA Cops. (http://www.la-cops.com/)



P.S: Same team who made this jewel (http://www.thebuttonaffair.com/).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on March 25, 2014, 02:54:05 PM
I'm sure my fiancée will enjoy playing Candy Crush Saga in full virtual reality mode.

/sigh

http://www.oculusvr.com/blog/oculus-joins-facebook/
https://www.facebook.com/zuck/posts/10101319050523971
http://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-to-buy-oculus-rift-for-2-billion-2014-3


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on March 25, 2014, 03:36:47 PM
Two Billion  :uhrr:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goreschach on March 25, 2014, 03:40:44 PM
Facebook is the new myspace.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Torinak on March 25, 2014, 04:26:18 PM
I'm sure my fiancée will enjoy playing Candy Crush Saga in full virtual reality mode.

/sigh

http://www.oculusvr.com/blog/oculus-joins-facebook/
https://www.facebook.com/zuck/posts/10101319050523971
http://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-to-buy-oculus-rift-for-2-billion-2014-3

And suddenly, I lost all interest in Oculus Rift, as a user and as a developer.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on March 25, 2014, 04:36:18 PM
And suddenly, I lost all interest in Oculus Rift, as a user...

+1.  Sony Morpheus all the way now  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on March 25, 2014, 05:09:21 PM
Notch tweeted a bit ago that he was in talks to bring MC to the Rift and just pulled the deal on this announcement. 

I was going to be a late adopter to this technology prior to this; I might never touch it now. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on March 25, 2014, 05:15:06 PM
I just don't understand the valuation or the rationale at all. This is at its core a gaming peripheral, I don't see how it fits into Facebook's business. I can understand why they bought instagram, even though the $1bn they paid for that still seems mad; but at least that fit neatly into their ecosystem. I don't see how they expect oculus to work for them, it's just an all around strange decision.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on March 25, 2014, 05:26:30 PM
The theory being proposed is that Zuck wants to turn FB into the new Google: buying up various off-center techs and firms in order to diversify and stay afloat.  He's seen the writing on the wall left behind by MySpace, and he doesn't want history to repeat.

The sad part is that his strategy just might work, as long as he sticks to his word that nothing "bad" is going to happen/be changed as a result of the acquisition.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on March 25, 2014, 05:30:15 PM
I have a small-time investor of a coworker that's going gaga over this news.  He was quick to point out Notch's hypocrisy in saying that while he may not like FB, he still has a FB page of his own up and active; haters may hate, but they don't "have the balls to delete their account."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on March 25, 2014, 05:39:54 PM
I'm not sure I really understand Notch's objection anyway. It's a piece of hardware, it will be good or it won't be good; I'm not sure why the deal would live or die on who ultimately writes the checks to the people who make it. Facebook doesn't strike me as particularly more or less evil than other companies he's partnered with already.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on March 25, 2014, 06:13:24 PM
Fucking lol how owned do the people who contributed to the kickstarter must feel?

Donated money to get the product off the ground and the company turns around and takes a payout of TWO BILLION earth dollars from the devil. Zach Braff sold his kickstarter movie for millions at Sundance btw.

Also $400 million of the 2 Bil is cash, the rest is what will likely be completely worthless facebook stock.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on March 25, 2014, 06:29:07 PM
Even $400M seems like an optimistic valuation of the company; I'm sure they're not too heartbroken that the Zuc has decided to throw wads of cash at them.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on March 25, 2014, 06:41:43 PM
Of course not, they can just treat it like a fun sidejob now and fuck off with a shitzillion dollars when they get bored.

Zuck could've spent like $50 million and made a better VR set but nah fuck it Dotcom Bust 2.0 Google mentality bitches, even though facebook doesn't have the actual liquidity or uh a revenue model like google


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on March 25, 2014, 07:16:50 PM
Just found this on NeoGaf  :grin: :grin:

(http://i.minus.com/ibgOaQYLlF4V55.gif)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Stormwaltz on March 25, 2014, 09:04:46 PM
A company whose service I don't use bought a company whose product I'm not interested in for an amount of money I could put to far better use.  :oh_i_see:

I see Oculus and all other facehelmet VR systems as the equivalent of 3DTVs; fine for wealthy young gearheads with no children, but destined to fade into obscurity as people get older and realize, "hey, this is actually absurdly impractical if there's anyone else in the room."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on March 26, 2014, 12:14:09 AM
The sad part is that his strategy just might work, as long as he sticks to his word that nothing "bad" is going to happen/be changed as a result of the acquisition.

That's the same guy who said "privacy is dead" because social norms have chagned and later buys up all the houses around his mansion to safeguard his privacy.

Obviously he was only referring to common plebs. Fuck that guy.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on March 26, 2014, 03:41:31 AM
Just found this on NeoGaf  :grin: :grin:

(http://i.minus.com/ibgOaQYLlF4V55.gif)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/8e4290a5beef66b0def6a9a4340ccc07/tumblr_n2qpoc11zu1twpqixo1_1280.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 26, 2014, 06:53:22 AM
Notch tweeted a bit ago that he was in talks to bring MC to the Rift and just pulled the deal on this announcement. 

I was going to be a late adopter to this technology prior to this; I might never touch it now. 
If anything could make that interesting, it's minecraft! Wow.

But yeah, facebook has already myspaced itself, but they myspaces HARDER. Not only is dad and grandpa on the network and loving it...they shot themselves by trying to cut the 'free' promotion of business. When they removed the feature to receive all of a page's updates, that was the actual death knell because even dad and grandpa want to see what the fuck grandma is saying and not just the fraction of what grandma is saying that facebook deems interesting. And that the reasoning is to drive advertising when they piss away money on the oculus rift? Ye gods.

I never went in for facebook until I started painting and I use it as an artist network. I miss way over half of most people's posts. I'd be pissed if I was using it as my primary social network.

Also, not saving the setting of 'most recent' and continuing to try and optimize the order posts come in is a daily annoyance. You should probably avoid annoying your users daily.

The market is ripe for a new tech that doesn't want to insert its ego.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on March 26, 2014, 08:38:06 AM
I worded it poorly.  I have no intention of playing MC on the Oculus.  Rather, I quit using FB almost a year ago and I'd rather not support them any further than I have to. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on March 26, 2014, 08:44:57 AM
The problem is that those companies have the tech first and are then desperately looking for an application and business model to go with it.

Facebook has no business case, Twitter has no business case, Google has no business case, Yahoo has no business case. All they have is lots of stupid venture capital money and no clue how to really make money except with advertising and user profiling.

Google makes over 90% of its revenue via advertising and profiling related services, Twitter makes over 90% of its meager non-VC-related revenue from advertising and related services and its the same for Facebook. That works as long as you are quasi monopolist because you monopolize eyeballs, it falls down as soon as you lose those eyeballs.

They all pretty much buy everything that moves to get to a business case once the stupid money runs out. The biggest threat to both Google and Facebook is people leaving, because they don't make money from service fees or subscriptions or by selling products, they make money via advertising. Twitter hopes that it can survive on VC infusions until another company buys them and only God knows how Yahoo makes any money at all.

For their current 'business' to make any sense they have to be virtually everyhwere, any place,at any time. That's why Google wants to be on every device, that's why Facebook integrates or buys every service that is even remotely popular. Only it doesn't work. Googles advertising revenue is falling year over year despite that, facebook is bleeding users and both overextend themselvs with acquisitions and failed tech projects.

That's why Google buys companies like Boston Dynamics and Facebook buys Oculus (it will not be the last acquisition in that space): To have lots of 'old economy' businesses once they are no longer relevant as a targeted advertising platform. Which will happen sooner rather than later.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 26, 2014, 08:47:54 AM
even though facebook doesn't have the actual liquidity or uh a revenue model like google

Yes they do, and I think they made north of a billion for Q1 2013 with a net of 200+ million. Mostly through web/mobile ads. I'm too lazy to look up actual numbers, so I could be totally wrong.

Either way, fuck Facebook.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on March 26, 2014, 08:58:09 AM
even though facebook doesn't have the actual liquidity or uh a revenue model like google

Yes they do, and I think they made north of a billion for Q1 2013 with a net of 200+ million. Mostly through web/mobile ads. I'm too lazy to look up actual numbers, so I could be totally wrong.

Either way, fuck Facebook.

You aren't wrong. Their cash flow is frankly absurd, and they are pulling in massive income marks in the last year alone. The major issue with them is how they are spending that cash, putting it into other large scale investment properties. Right now you have a company with essentially $11B in cash and short-term, and they are sitting on it or putting it into odd things. Were I an investor, I'd want to start seeing some return of that cash in the next 2 years.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nebu on March 26, 2014, 09:12:05 AM
Either way, fuck Facebook.

Facebook is nothing but a data gathering tool for the marketing industry. 

Fuck Facebook, indeed.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on March 26, 2014, 10:15:29 AM
A piece on Raph's blog:

http://www.raphkoster.com/2014/03/25/musings-on-the-oculus-sale/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 26, 2014, 10:24:56 AM
Raph's entire thought process there relies on bullshit we don't have good tech for yet and Oculus isn't that good tech.

Oculus doesn't open up anything really, except to thrust Facebook into a market for which their current shit has no immediate or obvious use.

Basically, shit bought other shit because the other shit will let them look like shit with more breadth to shitty investors. Shit all around. Shit shit shit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Speedy Cerviche on March 26, 2014, 10:45:50 AM
Zuckerburg must've been in a serious purple haze when he made this call...

I really cannot fathom what widespread usage he expects out of this... It's a pretty cool high end gaming toy for something like a flight game or FPS, but nobody besides hardcore gamers are going to drop hundreds of dollars on it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on March 26, 2014, 10:56:21 AM
even though facebook doesn't have the actual liquidity or uh a revenue model like google

Yes they do, and I think they made north of a billion for Q1 2013 with a net of 200+ million. Mostly through web/mobile ads. I'm too lazy to look up actual numbers, so I could be totally wrong.

Either way, fuck Facebook.
Google pulled like $13.5-$14 billion in Q3 of last year. Google of all places spending $2 billion on the Rift would still be stupid.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on March 26, 2014, 11:00:19 AM
Either way, fuck Facebook.
Facebook is nothing but a data gathering tool for the marketing advertising industry. 

Fuck Facebook, indeed.
FIFY. Companies like Google and Facebook exist to sell advertising space. I.e. Google is not a "search" company -- they are an ad space company. Search is just something that helps them sell ad space.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on March 26, 2014, 11:24:33 AM
Either way, fuck Facebook.
Facebook is nothing but a data gathering tool for the marketing advertising industry. 

Fuck Facebook, indeed.
FIFY. Companies like Google and Facebook exist to sell advertising space. I.e. Google is not a "search" company -- they are an ad space company. Search is just something that helps them sell ad space.


Clear Channel?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on March 26, 2014, 02:37:11 PM
I really cannot fathom what widespread usage he expects out of this... It's a pretty cool high end gaming toy for something like a flight game or FPS, but nobody besides hardcore gamers are going to drop hundreds of dollars on it.

He took the same drugs eBay execs were on when they bought Skype.

Also I'm already sick of "presence" and OR and Facebook are the literal opposites of it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on March 26, 2014, 03:24:49 PM
I thought Microsoft bought Skype?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on March 26, 2014, 03:26:43 PM
From eBay after eBay realized they had no idea what they were going to do with Skype.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Raph on March 26, 2014, 03:43:43 PM
Raph's entire thought process there relies on bullshit we don't have good tech for yet and Oculus isn't that good tech.

Oculus doesn't open up anything really, except to thrust Facebook into a market for which their current shit has no immediate or obvious use.

Basically, shit bought other shit because the other shit will let them look like shit with more breadth to shitty investors. Shit all around. Shit shit shit.

Dude, you are not paying enough attention.

Beacons got installed in all Apple stores last month, and push ads with opt-out to all phones that come near. Trial is moving to Macy's next.

Google bought Nest for a reason. They've had the indoor mapping project going for a while now, and it works. Plus there's the new project that 3d scans everything in a room. Did you miss that video?

We're already geofencing and annotating everything. Why else do you think Google bought Zagat? What do you think Yelp is? What do you think your FB profile is?

Like I said, the clunky headset is a ways from getting fixed. But the client isn't the part that matters.

Do I think that this acquisition is the right path to the Metaverse? No. But to think that the AR-world isn't hurtling headlong towards you is to bury your head in the sand. VR will be a small subset of this new networked environment, for the purposes primarily of entertainment, with strong verticals in training & education and a minor one in telepresence.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on March 26, 2014, 04:40:05 PM
If being trolled by Schild is what's getting you to post again then more power to him.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Raph on March 26, 2014, 05:02:52 PM
I post all the time. Check the guitar & fish tank threads.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on March 26, 2014, 07:14:33 PM
I see battery tech being the big barrier to the real gee-whiz Shadowrun AR stuff. Google Glass/Oculus/etc will get smaller/better but powering all of this for any length of time is pretty much hitting its limit with current battery tech. I haven't looked at it in a while but last time I checked is there any real game-changers coming down the pipe in that area?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Stormwaltz on March 26, 2014, 09:13:36 PM
Today was a bad day to be a copyright troll.

Quote
King's stock price dropped a whopping 15.56%, making it the worst first day performance of any IPO in US history.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/133280-King-Faces-Worst-First-Day-in-US-Trading-History-Stock-Drops-15


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 26, 2014, 09:39:16 PM
Raph's entire thought process there relies on bullshit we don't have good tech for yet and Oculus isn't that good tech.

Oculus doesn't open up anything really, except to thrust Facebook into a market for which their current shit has no immediate or obvious use.

Basically, shit bought other shit because the other shit will let them look like shit with more breadth to shitty investors. Shit all around. Shit shit shit.

Dude, you are not paying enough attention.

Beacons got installed in all Apple stores last month, and push ads with opt-out to all phones that come near. Trial is moving to Macy's next.

Google bought Nest for a reason. They've had the indoor mapping project going for a while now, and it works. Plus there's the new project that 3d scans everything in a room. Did you miss that video?

We're already geofencing and annotating everything. Why else do you think Google bought Zagat? What do you think Yelp is? What do you think your FB profile is?

Like I said, the clunky headset is a ways from getting fixed. But the client isn't the part that matters.

Do I think that this acquisition is the right path to the Metaverse? No. But to think that the AR-world isn't hurtling headlong towards you is to bury your head in the sand. VR will be a small subset of this new networked environment, for the purposes primarily of entertainment, with strong verticals in training & education and a minor one in telepresence.
I have the worlds best dagger to throw at you right now, and it would be super awesome and just, like, a total bloodletting, but I won't.

Suffice it to say, I disagree with what you've said.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on March 27, 2014, 07:23:20 AM
I see battery tech being the big barrier to the real gee-whiz Shadowrun AR stuff. Google Glass/Oculus/etc will get smaller/better but powering all of this for any length of time is pretty much hitting its limit with current battery tech. I haven't looked at it in a while but last time I checked is there any real game-changers coming down the pipe in that area?
It will be two things:  reducing power usage and designing it to be powered by motion and/or the body.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on March 27, 2014, 10:30:12 AM
From eBay after eBay realized they had no idea what they were going to do with Skype.


Microsoft at least had a point in doing so.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on March 27, 2014, 10:36:42 AM
If Microsoft was buying them for their tech it was stupid because they already had their own VOIP tech that worked. If they were buying them for the userbase it was stupid because Skype's userbase isn't worth the billions they paid for it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on March 27, 2014, 10:41:55 AM
Show me a tech recently that anyone paid billions for that was worth it.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on March 27, 2014, 10:43:21 AM
That's the point really. This is tech bubble 2.0. When you have companies spending billions of dollars acquiring other companies that make no/little profit the market is well and truly fucked.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Torinak on March 27, 2014, 11:08:15 AM
That's the point really. This is tech bubble 2.0. When you have companies spending billions of dollars acquiring other companies that make no/little profit the market is well and truly fucked.

A lot of the big acquisitions in the last few years seem to have been about buying out potential competition, either in user-base or in technology.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 27, 2014, 11:15:32 AM
The strategy of buying a competitor and murdering it in your corporate basement is real.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on March 27, 2014, 02:24:13 PM
Which was actually what skype was about. All hail lync.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on March 27, 2014, 03:09:32 PM
You mean corporations have a marked interest in keeping the status quo and aren't all about the idea?  That startups creating "The next big thing" are really only looking to cash-out and not idealogues who wouldn't jump at billions but would stay poor just to keep the dream of pushing us in to a sci-fi metaverse alive?

I'm shocked.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on March 27, 2014, 08:22:44 PM
Looks like Torchlight founders have left Runic to form a smaller company.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bunk on March 27, 2014, 10:42:39 PM
You can get smaller than Runic?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 27, 2014, 10:50:50 PM
Can we call that behavior serial yet?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 28, 2014, 06:43:53 AM
If Microsoft was buying them for their tech it was stupid because they already had their own VOIP tech that worked. If they were buying them for the userbase it was stupid because Skype's userbase isn't worth the billions they paid for it.
They were buying the brand name. Seniors know what Skype is with the kids and whatnot.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on March 28, 2014, 08:17:34 AM
You can get smaller than Runic?

I don't know the story, other than they grew to 20 employees.  My guess is they spent more time managing employees than developing games. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on March 28, 2014, 10:33:02 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/pEsnXEO.png)


€ 92.99.... Hmm. *ponders* Well. No, thanks. I pass.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on March 28, 2014, 10:36:51 AM
If Microsoft was buying them for their tech it was stupid because they already had their own VOIP tech that worked. If they were buying them for the userbase it was stupid because Skype's userbase isn't worth the billions they paid for it.

I think you are correct on principle. But even then MS buying Skype is in a different league than fucking Facebook buying a hardware startup for 2 bn.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 28, 2014, 11:12:03 AM
Wow, Gal Civ 3 is actually $99.99 USD. Fucking Stardock.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on March 28, 2014, 11:30:54 AM
I... what? Serioulsy? Fuck you, Stardock. What the fuck?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 28, 2014, 11:45:09 AM
What sort of koolaid are they drinking over there?  Did they license the source code for BC3K?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Miasma on March 28, 2014, 11:51:25 AM
Star citizen effect.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on March 28, 2014, 12:29:42 PM
It's a special package. The game when released is not going to be $99. For the $99 you get early access, the game, and a bunch of expansions, DLC when they come out.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 28, 2014, 12:44:43 PM
Actually, it sounds more like for $99.99 you get to help with the continued existence of a studio that should've died off.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Reg on March 28, 2014, 01:39:08 PM
After the drama of Elemental there's absolutely nothing I'd buy from Stardock without seeing guinea pigs from F13 play it first.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Xanthippe on March 28, 2014, 01:48:55 PM
After the drama of Elemental there's absolutely nothing I'd buy from Stardock without seeing guinea pigs from F13 play it first.

I liked Entrepreneur.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on March 28, 2014, 02:43:19 PM
Wow, Gal Civ 3 is actually $99.99 USD. Fucking Stardock.

I blame Uber Entertainment for piloting this model with Planetary Annihilation.  Grab all the early investor money immediately, before the game can be criticized or reviewed, and then drop the price as it gets more and more finished.  It's like someone said "hey, generally games go down in price after launch, so continuing that trend in the other direction, they should be even more expensive before launch!"  I wish it would have died there, but Planetary Annihilation seems to have gotten away with it, so apparently we can all look forward to more of this bullshit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on March 28, 2014, 02:56:09 PM
I said somewhere that this shit was only going to get worse. Either the SC thread or the EQN thread.  Good to see it's trending as I expected.

Coming soon: Design Doc stage access for Dragon Age 4, only $1,000 USD. Limited slots at Pre-Meetings available for $5,000!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on March 28, 2014, 02:58:51 PM
I said somewhere that this shit was only going to get worse. Either the SC thread or the EQN thread.  Good to see it's trending as I expected.

Coming soon: Design Doc stage access for Dragon Age 4, only $1,000 USD. Limited slots at Pre-Meetings available for $5,000!

See Brad McQuaid about that kind of thing. You can listen in on dev meetings!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on March 29, 2014, 06:03:54 AM
At the $99.99 level, Brad Wardell will personally come to your house and tell you that your politics suck and then he'll take back your game because you're not worthy to own it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Morat20 on March 29, 2014, 08:31:45 AM
How much do I need to donate to be allowed to run the game past a handful of kids and ask if it's stupid? Because I think if we started  using the Evil Overlord list on game designers, we might get somewhere.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on March 30, 2014, 11:00:56 AM
Yeah..this early access / KS stuff is just a way to shift more and more risk onto the consumer. I can buy a finished game I know is good for $60 new, or like $20 used. $99 to speculate on what is probably going to be a bad game? No thanks.

I think this problem will correct itself eventually though. Some game will come out in Early Access, be popular, then the devs will say "eh...we're bored, not going to work on it any more."
---

As far as OR and FB, I agree with Raph that the client tech isn't the most important part in the long-term - however in the short term it's very important. Mass adoption will require great hardware.

But it's definitely not about the servers and who owns them. Servers are already a commodity product - anyone can just use EC2 or Azure or whatever.

It's about content. And FB will most likely make the content for OR obnoxious and uninteresting.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Stormwaltz on March 30, 2014, 01:08:11 PM
I'm okay with indie devs and start-up companies doing Kickstarts and "Alpha access," but when it comes from well-established companies that have the resources and connections for traditional development, I've started to look at it askance.

I'm looking at Stardock askance, and increasingly so at Double Fine.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on March 31, 2014, 02:00:27 PM
DoubleFine is basically a charity where your donations fund the lifestyles of 20 white hipster dudes who all look identical.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 31, 2014, 05:22:08 PM
Doublefine has yet to make a good game. It's faux-cerebral shit for gamers that don't like actual fun.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on April 01, 2014, 12:29:53 AM
Chaos Reborn's Kickstarter (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1206403106/chaos-reborn-from-the-creator-of-the-original-x-co?ref=scottm), from Julian Gollop creator of X-Com and Laser Squad.

"Wizard Tactics with Bluff and Deception, Procedurally Generated Realms, Online Multiplayer, Co-op and a Huge Single Player Campaign"

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/807/841/65682e0bfe1d519d5d6afbf9b0c78a27_large.jpg?1396003467)

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/757/586/286bbc4a51bb33d7965e559bfa978041_large.jpg?1394988592)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on April 01, 2014, 06:43:36 AM
Here's a great big article of some dude trying really hard to be the Hunter S Thompson of video game journalism, reporting on a shitted up Game Jam.

http://indiestatik.com/2014/03/31/most-expensive-game-jam/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on April 01, 2014, 08:21:17 AM
April Fool's gaming roundup. So far I like the Pokemon on Google Maps best.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on April 01, 2014, 09:58:21 AM
Here's a great big article of some dude trying really hard to be the Hunter S Thompson of video game journalism, reporting on a shitted up Game Jam.

http://indiestatik.com/2014/03/31/most-expensive-game-jam/

I couldn't finish.  After the first two sections of "I'm so great, fantastic and special" asides all I kept reading was "I'm a DOUUUUUUUUUUUUUCHE" afterwards.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on April 01, 2014, 12:13:04 PM
The whole concept of that jam/competition thing is so stupid that I feel contempt for anyone who agreed to it in the first place.

I know people want to be on TV but come one now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on April 01, 2014, 12:23:27 PM
Here's a great big article of some dude trying really hard to be the Hunter S Thompson of video game journalism, reporting on a shitted up Game Jam.

http://indiestatik.com/2014/03/31/most-expensive-game-jam/

I couldn't finish.  After the first two sections of "I'm so great, fantastic and special" asides all I kept reading was "I'm a DOUUUUUUUUUUUUUCHE" afterwards.
Yeah you have to skip down quite a bit to actual read what the title is describing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on April 01, 2014, 12:52:22 PM
The bigger issue is that he doesn't tell you what the article itself is about until halfway through.  Be a douche all day long, but tell me what I'm supposed to be reading about while you do it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on April 14, 2014, 03:25:22 AM
The "Zeus" free DLC for Arma 3 is out. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JiXznUyldM) And it looks nothing short of impressive. You basically get to be the Dungeon Master hosting, organizing, and dynamically changing a multiplayer session for whoever joins it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: apocrypha on April 14, 2014, 03:55:03 AM
The "Zeus" free DLC for Arma 3 is out. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JiXznUyldM) And it looks nothing short of impressive. You basically get to be the Dungeon Master hosting, organizing, and dynamically changing a multiplayer session for whoever joins it.

Some friends & I are going to be having a play with this sometime next weekend. We've been playing Arma3 together irregularly since the beta was first available and I fully expect much hilarity to ensue.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on April 14, 2014, 04:03:55 AM
Oh man, this reminds me of my glory days with Neverwinter Nights.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on April 14, 2014, 04:42:05 AM
Neverwinter Nights is the first thing that popped into my mind too. It goes without saying, I'd pay good money for such a tool in an up-to-Arma3-standards Fantasy RPG.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on April 15, 2014, 10:53:06 AM
Amusing bug in Wolf Among Us.

http://kotaku.com/weve-already-found-the-best-video-game-bug-of-2014-1563425276


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on April 17, 2014, 01:59:35 PM
If anyone gets Drakengard 3, please let us know how it is.  I can't justify the purchase right now, but if it's really good I might splurge.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on April 23, 2014, 01:37:12 AM
"The Door Problem" ! (funny piece about game design)

http://www.lizengland.com/blog/2014/04/the-door-problem/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 23, 2014, 05:43:40 AM
I only just realized that Goat Simulator is out.  Those guys deserve ten dollars.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on April 23, 2014, 06:56:13 AM
What does Goat Simulator end game look like?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on April 23, 2014, 09:46:04 AM
Goat ass, I'd imagine.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on April 23, 2014, 09:53:15 AM
I serve them up, you knock them out.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on April 23, 2014, 11:03:35 AM
I only just realized that Goat Simulator is out.  Those guys deserve ten dollars.

Not really. Also he got enough ten dollars when he hit the top of the steam top sellers on day 1.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on April 23, 2014, 11:50:42 AM
There is a funny gameplay video of Goat Simulator (lasts about 12 minutes) published by "Gopher" who you might know from the Skyrim mod community (he's a mod author and also does tons of reviews of Skyrim/Fallout/Fallout NV mods) :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5ViYN5QEE4




Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on April 23, 2014, 12:14:24 PM
Why are people so excited about that?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goreschach on April 23, 2014, 12:55:11 PM
Because buying shitty, unfinished games is a thing now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on April 23, 2014, 01:09:43 PM
Because buying shitty, unfinished games is a thing now.

Ugh, that's so true, unfortunately.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on April 23, 2014, 01:57:55 PM
I had a lot of fun with Goat Simulator. For about 15 minutes. I think its fair price would be 1$. 10 is robbery, except no one is actually forcing people to give it to them.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on April 23, 2014, 02:28:28 PM
Isn't it great, living in the era of Kickstarter and Early Access?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on April 23, 2014, 02:29:22 PM
I dream of the day all of these things get buried by class-action lawsuits, but it will never happen.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 23, 2014, 02:48:04 PM
It's my ten dollars, and it made me laugh.  Good enough.

If we are going to talk about unfinished games, I played several of them before patching was a given.  More than one completely lacked an ending.  Same nuts, different hammer.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 23, 2014, 02:51:35 PM
Terraria update on 360 will wreck your posessions.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on April 23, 2014, 03:32:43 PM
Why are people so excited about [Goat Simulator]?

I got it as a gift, it's just another one of those funny "screw around for a few minutes" kind of games like Surgeon Simulator or Octodad.  If you're worried about progression or the end game or balance or anything, this is very much not a game for you.  It's just a sandbox to muck around in.  I agree with Falc that in terms of content, it feels a bit light for $10, but I got a good hour or two of fun out of it.

Edit:

Isn't it great, living in the era of Kickstarter and Early Access?

This game was neither kickstarted nor on early access, it was just a random doodle for Coffee Stain that they thought was fun enough to merit a full release.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on April 24, 2014, 07:57:58 AM
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Patch 1.1 for Goat Simulator will be adding a whole new playable map, local splitscreen multiplayer, new achievements, new goats, more optimization, and even new features such as goat parkour! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nWPTezrgss)



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 24, 2014, 08:47:49 AM
So far, I can't even do a successful flip.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on April 24, 2014, 10:35:09 AM
Isn't it great, living in the era of Kickstarter and Early Access?
If we're going that route: Who here paid actual earth dollars for Minecraft?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on April 24, 2014, 11:54:03 AM
This game was neither kickstarted nor on early access, it was just a random doodle for Coffee Stain that they thought was fun enough to merit a full release.

That part was in response to Goreschach's comment about shitty, unfinished games.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on April 24, 2014, 12:02:30 PM
Isn't it great, living in the era of Kickstarter and Early Access?
If we're going that route: Who here paid actual earth dollars for Minecraft?

Mount and Blade too, while we're at it. I don't dislike Early Access as much as Kickstarter by any means, but it does irk me when an already suspect system gets downright abused.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on April 25, 2014, 12:30:51 AM
Goat Simulator is pretty much 100% about the concept and being in the right place at the right time.

People care about Goat Simulator because it sounds wacky and fun at a time when wacky and fun sounding games are in vogue. That's really it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 25, 2014, 09:22:50 AM
That sort of game is always in vogue with me.  Unlike somber and tedious-sounding games.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on April 25, 2014, 01:17:42 PM
Goat Simulator is pretty much 100% about the concept and being in the right place at the right time.

People care about Goat Simulator because it sounds wacky and fun at a time when wacky and fun sounding games are in vogue. That's really it.

It's pure Youtuber bait, for the Pewdiepies and Markipliers of the world. Funky, buggy, jokey game comes out, these WILD AND CRAZY Youtube personalities make a bunch of videos about how WILD AND CRAZY it is using grossly over-exaggerated reactions, and they make bank off of ad revenue.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Count Nerfedalot on April 29, 2014, 11:30:44 AM
Isn't it great, living in the era of Kickstarter and Early Access?
If we're going that route: Who here paid actual earth dollars for Minecraft?

Not sure what your point is? I paid real earth dollars for Minecraft beta. Got a working game that I liked just fine as it was at the time, and as a bonus it got even better.  Don't see how that relates to Kickstarter wherin devs seem to try to skip the whole hard part of coming up with a fun game FIRST, even if limited/unfinished, THEN ask for money, instead preferring to sell overpriced smoke and promises?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on April 29, 2014, 10:37:14 PM
In our household, we have paid for three copies of Minecraft.  Granted, we were late to the party, but the paltry price is pretty easily justified.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on April 30, 2014, 05:01:31 PM
Stanford University Libraries acquire MUD1 source code (http://www.stanford.edu/group/htgg/cgi-bin/drupal/?q=node/1191).
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Stanford will be allowed to provide on-line access to the MUD1 source code files - details will be forthcoming.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on April 30, 2014, 05:02:08 PM
God, I hope they didn't pay for it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on April 30, 2014, 05:04:18 PM
It's a donation, apparently.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on April 30, 2014, 05:15:38 PM
A donation with the string attached that they make it seem important so Bartle can parlay his non-relevance into a paycheck for another half-decade I presume.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 30, 2014, 05:44:06 PM
Welcome to academia.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on May 03, 2014, 01:22:36 PM
https://us.battle.net/account/download/?show=classic

Hello there Lost Vikings, Rock N Roll Racing and Blackthorne. Nice to see you again.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on May 03, 2014, 02:29:04 PM
https://us.battle.net/account/download/?show=classic

Hello there Lost Vikings, Rock N Roll Racing and Blackthorne. Nice to see you again.

Ooh, awesome, thanks for that.

That's a weird coincidence, though, going up just days after Motor Rock got pulled from Steam for copyright infringement of Rock N Roll Racing.

edit: days, lol, months more like, never mind


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on May 06, 2014, 11:27:05 AM
IGN has free keys to beta test (http://www.ign.com/prime/promo/black-gold-online) the steampunk MMORPG Black Gold. This is from Snail soft, the Chinese company that made Age of Wulin/Wushu.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cadaverine on May 06, 2014, 05:14:28 PM
Not really free, unless you're already a Prime member with IGN.  Otherwise, it's $7.  At least it's telling me I need to subscribe to Prime.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on May 06, 2014, 11:33:00 PM
Uh? I am sorry then. But it's weird, I am not a member! Not that I know of...

Anyway, the download is 10 gigs (in browser) and keeps coming down corrupted. I think I'm done.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on May 14, 2014, 06:35:32 PM
I just got a PR Blast from 3D Realms about some bullshit called Bombshell. My gut reaction was to respond to the email with "YOU WALKING HUSK OF VINTAGE BULLSHIT, HOW DARE YOU INVADE MY EMAIL IN 2014. I DIDN'T INVITE YOU THERE AND I DON'T KNOW ANYONE THAT WOULD. GET OUT. PS I H8 U PPS I FORREALFORREAL H8 U"


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Stormwaltz on May 14, 2014, 09:36:19 PM
I'm sure it's being discussed on the SUPAR SEKRIT Hex forum, but for those of us who aren't on it:

WotC sues Hex for copying MtG. (http://company.wizards.com/content/wizards-coast-files-complaint-against-cryptozoic-entertainment-and-hex-entertainment)

EDIT: Legal filing here. (http://www.scribd.com/doc/224144304/Wizards-of-the-Coast-v-Cryptozoic-Entertainment-et-al)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on May 14, 2014, 10:02:44 PM
Already here too:

http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=23571.msg1286934#msg1286934


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 21, 2014, 07:09:19 AM
Recent thread about backward-compat or console emulation (forgot which one) led me to bother with setting up Dolphin and booting a Xenoblade ISO.  I know it's trying but so far it looks worse than most PS2 games.  I'll fiddle with the visuals and see if I can make things look better, but some things can't be fixed.

Xenoblade was a good choice because the controller emulation is kinda complex in that there aren't really enough buttons on a standard controller.  However I was able to just set up the Classic section of the Wiimote config, since Xenoblade can be played solely with that unit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on May 29, 2014, 12:12:31 PM
Forgive me if this has been mentioned, news to me. EA is running a freebie promotion, right now it's BF3.

https://www.origin.com/en-us/store/free-games/on-the-house?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on May 29, 2014, 02:00:37 PM
I tried to grab that but then Origin crashed. :why_so_serious: Got it after a restart, thanks Sky.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on May 30, 2014, 09:18:52 AM
And Plants vs Zombies is free, too.  I didn't have it!  Yay.  Two free games all at once!  Xbox is having three freebies in June, too, because it's like their 100th birthday or something.  I'm going to run out of xbox space, soon.  Time to edit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on May 30, 2014, 11:35:34 AM
In xbox space, everyone can hear you scream.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on May 30, 2014, 11:51:17 AM
So I just tried to buy Watch Dogs from Gamefly. They took my money, then said my purchase is "under review" and apparently I can't have my key until this mystery problem is resolved.

Is it just me or this incredibly shady? I'd understand not accepting the purchase, but taking money and then refusing to give the product?

edit: welp looks like they haven't charged it so I'll just cancel the whole thing. Which of course is not possible on their site.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on May 30, 2014, 01:18:43 PM
That happened on my first purchase from them. Their fraud alert setting is too damn high.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on May 31, 2014, 01:24:41 AM
I wonder how many lost sales they're suffering. I for one don't want start telling my personal info to a customer service rep calling from the US, just so I can get a video game that I can get from literally anywhere.

I guess the lesson is, even if Steam is more expensive, it's still the better choice.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on June 03, 2014, 11:19:36 AM
Goat Simulator 1.1 Patch notes (http://steamcommunity.com/games/265930/announcements/detail/1695916337353156299)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on June 03, 2014, 05:42:56 PM
PSN is running a flash sale on RPGs; Mass Effect trilogy is $15.  Hard to pass at that price.  ME3 DLC isn't included, so you'll have to shell out for the final 4 dlc, too.  But $15 base price is pretty stellar for 100-200 hours of game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 03, 2014, 06:24:09 PM
Does that apply to PSP Vita games?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on June 03, 2014, 08:56:15 PM
Doesn't appear so.  http://blog.us.playstation.com/2014/06/03/flash-sale-over-15-rpgs-add-ons-up-to-75-off/

Title    Sale Price    Original Price
Atelier Escha & Logy: Alchemists Of The Dusk Sky (PS3)    $24.99    $49.99
Conception II: Children Of The Seven Stars (PS Vita)    $29.99    $39.99
Dark Souls II (PS3)    $38.99    $59.99
Demon’s Souls (PS3)    $9.99    $19.99
Dragon Age: Origins (PS3)    $4.99    $19.99
Dragon’s Dogma: Dark Arisen (PS3)    $19.99    $39.99
Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster (PS3)    $29.99    $39.99
Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster (PS Vita)    $29.99    $39.99
Kingdoms Of Amalur: Reckoning (PS3)    $4.99    $19.99
Mass Effect 3: Citadel (PS3)    $7.49    $14.99
Mass Effect 3: From Ashes (PS3)    $4.99    $9.99
Mass Effect 3: Leviathan (PS3)    $4.99    $9.99
Mass Effect 3: Omega (PS3)    $7.49    $14.99
Mass Effect Trilogy (PS3)    $14.99    $29.99
Ni No Kuni: Wrath Of The White Witch (PS3)    $4.99    $19.99
Soul Sacrifice (PS Vita)    $6.49    $26.99
South Park: The Stick Of Truth (PS3)    $41.99    $59.99
Tales Of Graces f (PS3)    $17.49    $34.99
Tales Of Xillia (PS3)    $19.99    $39.99
Toukiden: The Age Of Demons (PS Vita)    $19.99    $39.99


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 03, 2014, 09:27:48 PM
But but, there's like 5 PS Vita titles in there. Soul Sacrifice was free last month on PSN. Also it's terrible.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on June 05, 2014, 03:32:49 AM
Shit, that's a pretty decent list.  Will have to see if it applies here in Eurolandia.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on June 05, 2014, 06:58:53 AM
Any chance that you maroons have an in for a beta of the Firefly Online mobile game? I've got a friend who is not a huge gamer but a browncoat and way too excited about it. I'd like to snag a couple test slots to hopefully dash those hopes earlier than later.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on June 05, 2014, 12:34:03 PM
Well, that's an answer, of sorts  :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ragnoros on June 05, 2014, 09:35:46 PM
So RPS really liked Distant Worlds: Universe. Anyone played it? I enjoy me some 4X, but don't have $50 to drop on a dud.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/05/30/wot-i-think-distant-worlds-universe/#more-210201


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Seraphim on June 05, 2014, 11:34:45 PM
So RPS really liked Distant Worlds: Universe. Anyone played it? I enjoy me some 4X, but don't have $50 to drop on a dud.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/05/30/wot-i-think-distant-worlds-universe/#more-210201

Haven't actually played Universe yet but bought the game and the first two expansions as they came out and it's a good game if a bit time consuming.
Is it actually worth $50 though, no I'd wait for the inevitable discount now that they're on Steam. At 50% off I'll probably pick this latest one up as well.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on June 06, 2014, 04:46:47 PM
Coo.

http://www.devolverdigital.com/blog/view/mediatonic-and-devolver-digital-remake-hatoful


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on June 09, 2014, 11:43:48 AM
Does your robot need glasses?  Take it to a local Austin repair shop.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/85916/robot_with_glasses.png)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 09, 2014, 11:46:43 AM
He'll be able to see, but won't be able to identify anything.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on June 11, 2014, 07:38:39 PM
Also I don't know where to post this but here's a good reason why Penny Arcade kinda fucking sucks.

They posted this hilarious job app for their webadmin a while back and basically it involves doing 80 hours a week of work in 4 different jobs that any other company would hire 3-4 people making ~$100k for.

Here's the guy who quit the position...because he was literally hospitalized by the job and couldn't make enough to earn a teaching certification.

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My name is Kenneth Kuan, the tech guy at Penny Arcade, and my decision to leave is why this position opened. Since the posting for my replacement went up, I've seen a lot of speculation about the position and what working for PA might be like. I figure it might help to hear the reality of my experience there. These are my own unfiltered thoughts; I'll be leaving the company in three months, so I'm not exactly worried about getting fired for what I say here.

First things first - you may wonder, how could this job possibly be so good if I'm leaving it behind? No, I did not burn out. No, the conditions are not awful. I am leaving because I have always wanted to teach. Doing so comfortably requires that before then, I need to put away a lot of money to support myself when I’m getting paid a truly ludicrous wage. It is true that I am paid below market value, but not so significantly as folks on the internet assume. I live quite comfortably on this salary, and while it’s less than I could make elsewhere, it’s not out of the bounds of reasonable expectation. But I want to accelerate my plans for teaching. So here we are. I love this company, but I have goals that won't be fulfilled by working there, so it's time to move on.

To give you context about how the position is currently filled, I’d like to tell you about myself. I am 27 years old. I graduated from the University of Washington with a BS in Computer Science. I worked immediately after at Amazon on the AmazonFresh team for 3 years, mostly on the customer-facing website. My focus was on building the areas of the site with heavy User Experience and User Interface aspects. We used Java on Struts, JSPs, and MySQL.

At the same time, I developed a relationship with Penny Arcade (the company) as well as Penny Arcade (the people). By 2011, I'd been an Enforcer (volunteer for PAX) for 6 years. I took on management of the Console Freeplay department in my second year, something I continue to be heavily involved in. Because of this, I had a fair bit more exposure to the office and PA staff than your average fellow. It was then that an opportunity opened up to fill their technical needs on a short notice, and given the immense respect I'd developed for everyone in the office, I jumped on it without hesitating. I took a moderate pay cut and loss of half of my stock vest by doing so, but I had no reservations. This job meant security, a huge opportunity to go out of my comfort zone and learn, and countless other 'soft' benefits I couldn't think of. And I got to work with people I truly enjoyed.

I want to be clear here. When I started, I was a fairly well trained software/web developer, and I could handle general IT about as well as anyone else with a CS degree. I had fairly limited exposure to systems administration; anyone who knew how to type 'apt-get install apache2' knew about as much as I did. If I had had to apply for the job with the presently listed requirements, I might not have gotten the offer. But I had a very strong idea of my limitations and what I would need to do to get the job done in spite of them.

So what does the job actually require? If you want to do *well*, the job posting is absolutely accurate. I helped write most of the technical requirements. Because I've been learning as I go, I've had to constantly triage out tasks and rely heavily on outside help - Rackspace's Managed Butt support is an incredible (albeit costly) resource, @Icyliquid has saved my ass more times than I can count, and the support of the shadowy PAX Engineering team, made up of Enforcers who are also IT or development professionals that I informally manage, has also been a huge boon. It seems like a herculean task for just one person. I'll run down the four primary hats and describe things:

* Web Developer: pretty straightforward. We've got lots of sites, they need building and maintaining. Erika is actually better than I am with HTML and CSS (seriously she is some kind of goddess) and a fair hand with PHP, so I largely get called in for weird special needs or out of the box projects. We use ExpressionEngine (PHP) for practically all our properties, with Apache (nginx in one weird instance) and MySQL under the hood.

* Software Developer: weird random projects that aren't web development. Maybe you need a warehouse management system, or an auction checkout system, or I don't know what. Pick your favorite language, write clean, maintainable code (for your own sake), and you're pretty much set here. You own the code base. You are responsible for every line of it, but that also means you have full control. Nothing I leave behind has to be set in stone. Of course, part of development is knowing when to reuse - you might not necessarily implement every tool the company needs from scratch. You might instead identify off-the-shelf products and do the work of evaluating and integrating them.

* Sysadmin: the hardest part (because I'm not one). All our servers are hosted on Rackspace Managed Butt. We have a bunch of Apache servers sitting behind Varnish caches sitting behind a Butt Load Balancer. I think there's a MySQL DB or two somewhere in the back. That I can't quite keep up with the job required here is evident any time we get a particularly large spike. At this point I have a pretty decent idea how to configure Apache, I mostly know how Varnish works, and I'm really good at bugging @Icyliquid and/or filing tickets with Rackspace support. Someone with better experience here could surely fine-tune our setup to get more out of less. Which, honestly, is kind of a mantra of software development.

* General IT: yes, everyone at Penny Arcade is fairly technically savvy. I'm pretty sure every one of them are the respective go-to IT professional for their families. Sometimes weirder stuff comes up - you need an FTP dump set up for clients, a local fileshare, "the thing isn't working and I don't know why". Whatever. This is honestly the smallest drain on my time by far, but it is part of the job and there's no one else to foist it onto. If you don't know how to fix it, you're the one who gets to figure out how.

So four hats, right? Why not four tech staff? The reality is that one highly motivated, highly skilled person can handle all of this. You do not need to be constantly working IT, or constantly managing servers or writing code. There’s a lot there, yes. This is a job that will keep one person fairly busy. Two people might find themselves spending a lot of time on /r/aww. Running as lean as we do, we have become a group of people incredibly effective at accomplishing huge tasks with limited resources.

I like this bullet point thing.

* Hours, on-call, etc: work demands don't tend to be especially consistent. Depending on the project load, I might spend 8 hours at the office and call it good, or I might stay til 10-midnight consistently for a couple weeks. The period where we launched Child's Play, Trenches, and PAR? I think? all within months of each other was pretty rough. As far as on-call is concerned, you are the only one on call. Prepare to have a laptop and some way of connecting to the internet with you at all times. Want to go on a hike somewhere there's no reception? Sorry, you can't. It's one of the hard realities of this job, and you should be aware of it going in. On the other hand, for better or worse, the likelihood you'll be paged is directly proportionate to your ability to write reliable code. You're not responsible for anyone else's messes. If something does go wrong, you are fully expected to jump. Fast. No matter what time it is or where you are. Generally speaking, you are also expected to be in fairly regular contact - easily reachable at normal waking hours, regularly checking email in case something urgent comes in. If someone needs you on the weekend, you’re available on the weekend. You will quickly become frustrated that other vendors don’t keep the same weekend hours that you do. Of course, it’s just as likely a coworker will message you to go to the movies, or to test out a new game they made. Everyone takes your time very seriously, and you will never get interrupted for frivolous issues.

* Life at PA: guys, I’m going to level with you. The ping pong table is *not* a benefit. I’m at the bottom of the goddamn ladder and I’m reminded every day I walk to my desk. Stop bringing it up. More seriously - everyone works as hard or harder than this position requires. Every job is actually four hats, but it just happens that these particular hats are very distinct and definable. Some people have families and go home at 5. Some people don’t, and stay well into the night because that’s what they’ve chosen to do. Even when I go home, I’m usually working at some point. I keep my laptop next to my bed so I can do a little work when I wake up. But I have never, ever felt uncomfortable, abused, or taken advantage of. People seem to disregard this notion of a “work family”, and it is certainly abused in other contexts, but it is really really real here. Folks at PA take care of each other. Some of them are my closest friends. I popped a lung and spent a week in the hospital, right before a scheduled launch. They pushed out the launch, came and visited me in the hospital, brought me delicious Asian snacks and lent me a Vita to help pass the time. Last December, I was dealing with a lot of unrelated anxiety and depression issues. It screwed over the project I was working on at the time, but I was given time off, no questions asked. Actually, no - question asked: “What can we do to help? Can we send you anywhere?” A person hired at Penny Arcade is a huge investment, financially and emotionally. We spend almost all our waking hours around each other, so we better like and care for each other. You can’t just hire someone you expect to burn out in a year or two. I play Warmachine every Monday with coworkers. When I’m not totally raging out, I play UMvC3 with Robert and Kiko every day at 4:30. We have family lunch every Friday. A yearly weeklong company retreat. Is all that worth the lower salary and longer hours? That’s up to you.

There is this notion that work/life balance is some kind of sacred goal. I’m sorry, but it’s ludicrous. That’s like saying everyone would be fulfilled by getting married and having 2.5 kids. If you want to work 40 hours and never think about your job after 5pm, great! Find something that does that for you. If you want to work 80 or more hours at something you truly enjoy, in fact you don’t want to stop working ever because you love it so much, shouldn’t that be okay too? Shouldn’t we be so lucky as to have a job that we are so invested in? We are very honest about what working at Penny Arcade requires. No one here has been scammed into working as hard as they do, and the implication that we’re all blind fools with low self esteem for being here is honestly insulting. If you take a job here, you know what you’re getting into, and you’ve decided it’s worth it to you. There won’t be any taking advantage of starry-eyed young twenty-somethings. You need to have a very realistic idea of what this job requires, or you will fail. And we’re not interested in hiring anyone just to set them up for failure.

This is all I can think of to cover, which is already quite a bit. I hope it helps you understand what life is really like as a unicorn.
Khoo is a gigantic evil piece of shit for doing this to anyone.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 11, 2014, 08:05:40 PM
Sounds like a shitshow where Tycho and Gabe are greedy and not willing to pay 2 salaries.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on June 11, 2014, 09:33:16 PM
Did you copypasta that through a Cloud > Butt filter?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 11, 2014, 10:19:54 PM
I don't know, it was about as coherent as a lot of Tycho's bullshit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on June 12, 2014, 01:21:01 AM
The only thing that concerns me more than companies having shitty ethics (news at eleven) is the Stockholm syndrome like behaviour of people like him. In his mind he is telling us that his job wasn't that bad after all - granted with all the fervor of a brain-washed sect member. If you really read what he wrote though you can only get the impression that PA is a shithole you shouldn't ever be working for.

He doesn't seem to get the distinction though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 12, 2014, 01:30:00 AM
And that will always allow shitty employers to say "look, there's a line out there dreaming to get this job..." which always makes me think both of Steinbeck's Grapes of Wrath and Kevin Spacey's character in Huang's Swimming with Sharks (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc0LJ3D8r9A).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on June 12, 2014, 02:04:48 AM
Also I don't know where to post this but here's a good reason why Penny Arcade kinda fucking sucks.

They posted this hilarious job app for their webadmin a while back and basically it involves doing 80 hours a week of work in 4 different jobs that any other company would hire 3-4 people making ~$100k for.

Here's the guy who quit the position...because he was literally hospitalized by the job and couldn't make enough to earn a teaching certification.

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My name is Kenneth Kuan,


Hi.

(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/axNrp7M_460s_v1.jpg)

Shd've quit earlier lah.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on June 12, 2014, 02:05:57 AM
The only thing that concerns me more than companies having shitty ethics (news at eleven) is the Stockholm syndrome like behaviour of people like him. In his mind he is telling us that his job wasn't that bad after all - granted with all the fervor of a brain-washed sect member. If you really read what he wrote though you can only get the impression that PA is a shithole you shouldn't ever be working for.

He doesn't seem to get the distinction though.

I have no sympathy.
I held a shit job. But I don't quit right now cause I ... uh.. I love it. Here. Yeah I felt needed.
Don't blame my employer please.
But listen to my sob story of torture and self inflicted pain.
Please.
Please?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on June 12, 2014, 02:22:13 AM
Who gives a shit, really? If people want to self-flagellate at the altar of being friends with the ultra-cool PA guys, then good for them. Him writing this post should put off anyone whose intelligence outweighs their fanboi-devotion to PA.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on June 12, 2014, 03:44:39 AM
Did you copypasta that through a Cloud > Butt filter?
Yep.

I'm just boggled at how the guy tries to justify the job when the job market in that -immediate area- isn't so bad as to justify it. This isn't the middle of the great recession anymore; it's not the booming 90's anymore but no fucking way is that job worth it.

It's not the same kind of shitty job you get when you're attempting to build experience/expertise and advance your career. That job is just a horrendously shitty tech job where you're a slave doing the work of 3-4 people for a very successful company that pulls in more than enough money to fill the 3-4 positions the work REALLY requires.

"No no, this was a great experience! I mean, yeah I worked 80 hours a week and was so stressed out it put me in the hospital and I didn't get paid the going rate for the work I did but they came and visited me in the hospital! And sometimes...nerf gun fights would break out. That part was awesome when I wasn't hospitalized."

Just FYI this guy quitting coincides with Penny Arcade's decision to kill all of its stupid side projects.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on June 12, 2014, 07:30:16 AM
There's no reason to ever work people like that, when the answer is another person to help do their job. Hell you can probably hire two underlings that he managed for 80% total of what he cost, and the job would get done more efficiently.

Owners often think it's a good idea to turn and burn people like this, but fatigue, resentment, medical issues and other problems fuck up the work. Then, you get a guy like this who obviously loves your company leaving after just 3 years. That guy sounds like if he was actually treated like a human being, he would have been there for at least 5 years, let alone might have changed his mind on teaching and just joined up for life.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on June 12, 2014, 09:28:45 AM
Tech-based company burns people candles at both ends for less than market value, then expects other expendable dipshits to fill the same role that should be filled by at least multiple people AND do it for less than market value? Film at fucking 11.

I'm constantly amazed at the idea that having a laptop next to your bed so you can do work at home in the middle of the fucking night and not being able to go to places without Internet access just in case you are needed at work WHILE YOU ARE ON VACATION is somehow acceptable. It's fucking not. That's slave talk. You are not your fucking job and no job should expect that you should be. The fact that there are probably hundreds lined up somewhere to gladly take this job is why it can still be done. It's also why the video game industry is simply not a good place to work. Fuck this mentality in its earhole.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on June 12, 2014, 09:58:29 AM
What Haem said.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on June 12, 2014, 10:18:42 AM
If there are hundreds lined up to jump off a cliff, let them. That's my thought process on this.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on June 12, 2014, 10:20:52 AM
That guy is affecting others though. As long as idiots sign up to work under those conditions, it will make it tougher for other people in IT (like me) to actually have a life outside of work.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on June 12, 2014, 10:25:18 AM
That guy is affecting others though. As long as idiots sign up to work under those conditions, it will make it tougher for other people in IT (like me) to actually have a life outside of work.

You can't stop that. You can either accept that your industry is overpopulated, or you can find a new line. That's the nature of every job market.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jth on June 12, 2014, 10:55:37 AM
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Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on June 12, 2014, 11:02:09 AM
RIP AND TEAR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFSyxguqnbo

(It can't be as bad as 3, right?  :| )


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on June 12, 2014, 12:50:45 PM
That guy is affecting others though. As long as idiots sign up to work under those conditions, it will make it tougher for other people in IT (like me) to actually have a life outside of work.

You can't stop that. You can either accept that your industry is overpopulated, or you can find a new line. That's the nature of every job market.

Or you can fucking unionize and get some actual fucking rights back.

Yeah, I know, that's pie in the sky talk but really, this is the kind of shit unions are supposed to exist to protect workers from.

EDIT: Also, I'm supposed to give a shit about another shinier version of Doom? Really?  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on June 12, 2014, 12:54:20 PM
And then say hello to $100+ games.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on June 12, 2014, 01:14:06 PM
We aren't far from that now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on June 12, 2014, 01:32:49 PM
Whatever we aren't far from, it's nothing compared to what we'd be paying for unionized game development.

And by 'we' I mean people still paying retail for games. If it wasn't for Steam, I'd have given up video games 10 years ago.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 12, 2014, 01:37:31 PM
What is Hartsman doing? :(


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on June 12, 2014, 02:53:29 PM
Whatever we aren't far from, it's nothing compared to what we'd be paying for unionized game development.

And by 'we' I mean people still paying retail for games. If it wasn't for Steam, I'd have given up video games 10 years ago.

If suckers are willing to pay retail for AAA games (and they are), they deserve to be parted with their money.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 12, 2014, 03:08:38 PM
Hey! Chris L'Etoile is writing the story of Dawngate! (http://www.polygon.com/e3-2014/2014/6/12/5802418/dawngate-mass-effect-2-ea-chris-letoile)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on June 12, 2014, 03:34:18 PM
Since I already don't buy very many $60 games, I don't give half a shit if they do go to $100.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on June 12, 2014, 03:53:57 PM
Hey! Chris L'Etoile is writing the story of Dawngate! (http://www.polygon.com/e3-2014/2014/6/12/5802418/dawngate-mass-effect-2-ea-chris-letoile)

Putting out a press release on the writer of MOBA-lore is like having a fan convention for the writers of the warning labels on cigarettes.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on June 12, 2014, 04:39:18 PM
Narrative MOBA? I'm kind of intrigued. Sounds kind of like the old L5R thing.

Also, don't be mean to Stormwaltz.  :-P


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 12, 2014, 04:54:24 PM
Never. I was actually subtly celebrating "one of us" getting a nice job and some spotlight :heart:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 12, 2014, 05:01:31 PM
I like Chris. But anyway, the amount of marketing their shoving into Dawngate makes absolutely zero sense to me. I mean, you've got LoL and DOTA2. Why dump money into the shortbus?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on June 12, 2014, 06:03:33 PM
I like Chris. But anyway, the amount of marketing their shoving into Dawngate makes absolutely zero sense to me. I mean, you've got LoL and DOTA2. Why dump money into the shortbus?

Maybe you can romance a blood shaman or some shit


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 12, 2014, 06:03:49 PM
i dont wanna


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on June 12, 2014, 06:23:15 PM
Look, I appreciate that he's got a job and that he'll be doing a lot of writing. I appreciate that there is TONS of lore in League of Legends. I played the game for two years heavily, and I can safely say that I read not even one percent of the lore. ME2, at least the lore is a strong portion of the game because it's a story-based narrative. MOBA? No. The narrative is emergent from the gameplay, all the lore just drives is fluff and concept art.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on June 12, 2014, 07:22:22 PM
I like League of Legends doujins.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Stormwaltz on June 12, 2014, 10:05:00 PM
I'm not going to linger here. Frankly I was mortified to hear my name was on the front page of anything.

For the past year, most of what I've done is VO scripts and straight prose, because the only resource I had to work with was me. Last year I ended up churning out the equivalent of a short novel, 65-70k words.

What opened this week is what I was originally hired for. The Living Lore system takes situations set up in the new webcomic (http://dawngatechronicles.com/) (art by Nicholas Kole, colors by John Loren, updated 3x a week), and has players choose what happens through a voting system in the client. Playing games earns votes. The result of the votes has not yet been revealed, but I think I can say that aside from results being shown in the webcomic, they will be reflected in additions and alterations to the content within the game.

There's not a lot of "marketing" in the sense you mean going into DG yet. There's been two trailers, two trips to PAX (in the PC gaming room, not on the floor), and any other buzz you've seen comes from the CMs working their balls off to build up the community through Twitch, Reddit, and social media, or from people making themselves available to talk to gaming sites. The team is under 50, which for an EA project is miniscule. I said in the other thread that the budget has been described as "a rounding error for EA," and while a joke, it's also nearly true.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on June 13, 2014, 08:32:47 AM
MOBA's should not have huge budgets. It kind of defeats the whole premise. I'm not sure they should have much set narrative either.

Congrats on the job. Have you played DG and if so, what can you tell us about it?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on June 13, 2014, 11:07:28 AM
I just picked up Omikron for sale at GOG.  I don't know when I will be able to play it but I'm going to make a very strong effort.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on June 16, 2014, 10:43:02 AM
Has anyone tried Xenonauts now that it's officially out? I've heard some good things about it, but it's kinda expensive for a gamble like that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on June 16, 2014, 12:23:00 PM
Xenonauts is actually out? It totally fell off the radar for me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on June 16, 2014, 01:09:43 PM
OpenXcom hit 1.0 as well if you have the original and want to try playing it again on a modern machine.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on June 16, 2014, 01:51:50 PM
Has anyone tried Xenonauts now that it's officially out? I've heard some good things about it, but it's kinda expensive for a gamble like that.

I actually have it. Didn't know it's out though. I can report in a few days if you can hold out so long.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Megrim on June 16, 2014, 07:23:49 PM
So I have a pstripple. I want to get a foot-to-ball football game to play. Which is best one and why?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 16, 2014, 07:49:37 PM
Mega Man Soccer on the SNES because Proto Man.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 16, 2014, 08:55:04 PM
So, Face of Mankind just got released under Steam Early Access.

How the fuck is that still a thing?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 16, 2014, 11:35:49 PM
Early access, huh?  :oh_i_see:

That game was released in 2006, 8 years ago. Fucking market.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 17, 2014, 12:45:19 AM
Euro Truck Simulator 2 developer gets one-year Steam ban for demonstrating security flaw with a Harlem Shake. (http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/06/17/euro-truck-simulator-2-developer-gets-one-year-steam-ban-for-demonstrating-security-flaw/?ns_campaign=article-feed&ns_mchannel=ref&ns_source=steam&ns_linkname=0&ns_fee=0)

(http://media.pcgamer.com/files/2014/06/ban1.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 17, 2014, 07:36:14 AM
I bet that does more for sales than anything else he could've done.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on June 17, 2014, 09:52:49 AM
So I have a pstripple. I want to get a foot-to-ball football game to play. Which is best one and why?

If you like the managerial/tactical/transfer aspect of the game, Football Manager (2014 is the latest version and will probably be on sale any day now). If you like the more arcadey play as the man with the ball type of game, FIFA from EA Sports is the one to play. They also have a F2P version called FIFA World (https://www.easportsfifaworld.com/intro?utm_campaign=fifaw-search-us-pbm-g-brand-core-e&sourceid=fifaw-search-us-pbm-g-brand-core-e&cid=21377&ts=1403024364179&gclid=CjkKEQjwzv-cBRD_oY2PouKVvMIBEiQAKuGNC3XnimGBM7X8gGmeP0LvEUEkBFgce2rk83MFQeLXlwvw_wcB).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on June 17, 2014, 04:28:43 PM
So I have a pstripple. I want to get a foot-to-ball football game to play. Which is best one and why?
WinUAE and Sensible Soccer, because it's the best football game in the history of all things.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Megrim on June 17, 2014, 06:37:34 PM
God dammnit you sluts are useless.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on June 17, 2014, 07:24:46 PM
I guess Polygon is laying a bunch of people off. Wow I don't care


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 17, 2014, 09:34:48 PM
Where the fuck do you even read about useless shit like that?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on June 17, 2014, 10:08:12 PM
Where the fuck do you even read about useless shit like that?

I'm half surprised Polygon didn't report on it themselves just for the clicks.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 17, 2014, 10:11:23 PM
Where the fuck do you even read about useless shit like that?
I'm half surprised Polygon didn't report on it themselves just for the clicks.
It's true. The first thing i did was go to Polygon because I thought if anyone would post it, it would be them.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on June 18, 2014, 10:30:35 AM
Where the fuck do you even read about useless shit like that?
some of the videogame related people I follow on twitter were offering condolences to some of the people laid off

also turns out Gametrailers fired a bunch of people?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 18, 2014, 10:37:19 AM
I operate under the assumption that any website that has more than say, 5 full/part-time paid staff members - assuming no actual "software development" takes place - deserves to fail.

Obviously I'm specifying that these people be actual staff members because Gawker Networks (and others) style of "pay per X views" doesn't count. You can't fire people that don't make money. Well, I guess you can and that would be hilarious, but whatever.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on June 19, 2014, 08:20:51 AM
I was reminded of this today and wondered if it had been solved yet.
Buyers not lining up for unfinished ‘Copernicus’ game (http://pbn.com/Buyers-not-lining-up-for-unfinished-lsquoCopernicusrsquo-game,97784)  :dead_horse:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on June 19, 2014, 09:59:34 AM
So I have a pstripple. I want to get a foot-to-ball football game to play. Which is best one and why?
WinUAE and Sensible Soccer, because it's the best football game in the history of all things.

No, don't listen to this drunken infidel. WinUAE and Dino Dini's "Goal" (http://www.mobygames.com/game/goal_)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on June 20, 2014, 12:37:15 PM
The E3 gameplay demo of MGSV: Phantom Pain is on Youtube. Looks like the third reason to buy a PS4.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggpBtOnq_AA


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 20, 2014, 12:58:39 PM
What's going on with these new games allowing you to mark enemies and see them through walls? I found it in Far Cry 3 and thought it was weird. Is it a thing now, in all open world shooters? I don't think I like it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on June 20, 2014, 01:11:24 PM
WANT.

Hasn't MGS always had that sorta see through walls thing?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 20, 2014, 01:23:58 PM
Oh, it could be. Last one I played was Metal Gear Solid 2 and I think it didn't have it but it was a long time ago.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on June 21, 2014, 08:37:59 AM
What the fuck? (http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2014/06/19/games-for-windows-live-exodus-continues.aspx)

There's no way GFWL shutting down was just a rumor, because it doesn't make sense that all these dev houses would put so much effort into migrating off of it just on a rumor.  These places *had* to have contacts that would be able to tell them they needed to do it or not to do it.

Good to see that Microsoft still doesn't have their shit together and has yet to learn any lessons.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 21, 2014, 09:21:41 AM
Lol


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 22, 2014, 07:43:54 AM
Crytek In Deep Trouble – Adoption of CryEngine Not Good, it may go bankrupt. (http://www.dsogaming.com/news/crytek-in-deep-trouble-adoption-of-cryengine-not-good-ryse-development-catastrophic/)


Quote
According to Gamestar, the adoption of CRYENGINE is not going well and the word-of-mouth at GDC was negative. Strangely enough, CRYENGINE is currently one of the most optimized engines, so Crytek should really look into its subscription prices otherwise this amazing engine may never be used by other triple-A developers.

Well, Chris Roberts is already using the engine for Star Citizen. He might as well buy the entire studio, you know, "why not?".


EDIT:
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Not only that, but Gamestar claims that the development of Ryse was catastrophic for the studio.

 :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on June 22, 2014, 09:42:03 AM
Ryse catastrophic? Should've been payday considering how bad Microsoft wanted it. Must've sold the exclusive to MS for peanuts.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on June 22, 2014, 10:21:10 AM
I bet it was all because of pirates.  :why_so_serious:

Ryse looked like overly shineyshiney Quicktime mambo on a platform that was immediately hamstrung by decisions that literally shoved Microsoft's sweaty, hairy balls in consumer's faces. I'm not surprised nor upset that it flopped for them.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on June 24, 2014, 05:04:06 AM
What exclusive wouldn't flop for the system that's considered the loser of this generation?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 27, 2014, 02:22:21 AM
Rock Simulator 2014 (http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=274135797) on Steam Greenlight.


(http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/3296947906196766142/D7F563B0A93AE99D283DC5E69289A7A2BCBADC19/637x358.resizedimage)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on June 27, 2014, 08:49:14 AM
 :argh:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Stormwaltz on July 01, 2014, 10:24:21 PM
I can't believe War Face showed up as "new" on Steam this week. I remember rolling my eyes at the name when I saw it at E3.

In 2006.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on July 02, 2014, 01:24:00 PM
And since 2006, Warface has been pretty much a disaster everywhere it's been released outside of Russia.

From what I hear, it's one of the main reasons Crytek's in such dire financial straits right now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on July 02, 2014, 08:48:03 PM
:argh:

Internet idiots greelight "ironic" ideas is nothing new.  You're just old now.   :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on July 02, 2014, 10:03:15 PM
A very large number of F2P games are going to crash and burn in the near future. A few years ago everyone decided that F2P shit, especially MOBAs and arena battle games, were the path to easy riches.

Off the top of my head there is an S-E Legacy of Kain arena shooter, a Dead Island MOBA, a Bandai-Namco arena fighter, a Bethesda arena fighter (Battle Cry?), Dawngate, a Crytek MOBA based on fairy tale characters (actually it's based on League of Legends characters that they changed the names of to pretend they were fairy tale characters.)

I'd be surprised if any of these do well.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 02, 2014, 10:45:39 PM
That is one of the actual safest, most unnecessary predictions ever.

What's your point?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on July 03, 2014, 12:26:18 AM
My point was that Crytek is just the tip of the iceberg.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 03, 2014, 12:58:57 AM
Yea, I don't think that has anything to do with F2P shit. I think most of the companies have had undeserved success in the past and have no actual idea how to make good games.

The last original idea that came out of any of the companies you mentioned was back in the 90s. Since then they've all just been playing follow the leader. Bethesda just makes fantasy Grand Theft Auto now when they're not sinking hundreds of millions into an MMOG that was guaranteed to fail from day -1. Crytek only knows how to make nice textures. Deep Silver makes better trailers than they do games. Bandai Namco, lol. EA is EA. Squeenix never recovered from The Spirits Within.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on July 03, 2014, 01:08:11 PM
From the WoW board: Rob Pardo is leaving Blizzard. (http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/13348514719)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on July 03, 2014, 01:15:51 PM
For those of us who don't follow Blizzard that closely, what is the significance of that?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on July 03, 2014, 01:19:18 PM
Rob Pardo took over lead design of WoW after Allen Adham decided he wanted to write financial software, or something. Later Rob became Chief Creative Officer at Blizzard.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 03, 2014, 01:21:54 PM
From the WoW board: Rob Pardo is leaving Blizzard. (http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/13348514719)

Good riddance.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on July 03, 2014, 02:12:11 PM
Yes, but why is he important?  Did he take over WoW while it was in development, or did he take over after a few years of success?  How much of the original vision was his?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on July 03, 2014, 02:13:36 PM
He took over not very long before it was released (Allen left in 2004). None of the original vision was his from what I understand.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on July 04, 2014, 08:16:24 AM
Just when you thought EA couldn't be any more greedy. EA is charging $4.50 for the XBox One demo of FIFA 14

:facepalm:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on July 04, 2014, 09:37:30 AM
What... the... fuck? They are CHARGING for a demo?  :ye_gods:

Why am I shocked?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on July 04, 2014, 09:44:18 AM
EA now claims it is a 'system error'

http://i.imgur.com/IZ9ap6q.jpg

http://www.polygon.com/2014/7/4/5870363/xbox-one-ea-charges-for-fifa-14-ea-sports-ufc-demos-error


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mazakiel on July 05, 2014, 08:37:34 AM
The last episode of Wolf Among Us releases next week, for anyone who's been waiting for the whole thing to be done before grabbing it.  I've found the whole experience to be pretty enjoyable overall.  There's been a little unevenness in pacing of episodes lengthwise, but if you're not having to wait for the next episode, that shouldn't be a problem. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 08, 2014, 01:53:25 PM
Battleborn. New game from the Borderlands people (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3pgQc17JB0). I literally can't even...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on July 08, 2014, 01:56:25 PM
That looked horrible.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 08, 2014, 02:05:50 PM
I think they spent more time on the music choice than they did the actual art.

Also, music was awful.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on July 08, 2014, 02:06:50 PM
Quote from: IGN
Battleborn is "a fusion of first-person shooting and loot-grabbing RPG elements in a living comic book art style." The Xbox One, PlayStation 4, and PC game also features creeps, quick leveling, and unique heroes comparable to MOBAs like Dota 2 and League of Legends, all wrapped around a "dramatic story" in its five-player cooperative campaign. Of course, it will also feature 5v5 competitive multiplayer.

Looks like a combination FPS/DOTA thing.  Sounds like it could be fun to me.  Graphically, I'm not sure, it looks like a mess right now, but maybe it works better in game or something.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 08, 2014, 02:09:18 PM
I don't think they've ever seen a comic book.

Dramatic story? Stahp, pls.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on July 08, 2014, 02:16:24 PM
I think I already called dibs on all the vaults.

Did we make a list of reasons to buy a PS4?  I don't remember that we did.  If so, I'd sort it by date to see when I'll be buying one.

At the moment, I think between September and December would be the time.  Especially if the White PS4 is a technical increment over the launch unit, but considering the console landscape I doubt Sony feels any pressure to alter the system.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 08, 2014, 02:44:19 PM
Did we make a list of reasons to buy a PS4?  I don't remember that we did.  If so, I'd sort it by date to see when I'll be buying one.

The Last of Us Remastered (07/29/14)
Destiny (9/9/14)
No Man's Sky

Two of these 3 things can be held off on until they hit the PC. The Last of Us is whatever.

Sooooooooooooo

Games with no meaningful date:
The Evil Within

Here's a list with nothing on it: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=723415


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on July 08, 2014, 02:51:44 PM
Battleborn. New game from the Borderlands people (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3pgQc17JB0). I literally can't even...

The first thing I thought of when I saw that robotic thing with the bowler hat drift down was that this game was a MOBA. So basically, they are making Smite, only with random loot thing something?

Why?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on July 08, 2014, 03:36:02 PM
The only other game to potentially add to the PS4 list is Dragon Age 3, if you're into that thing.  If I play it, it will be on a PS4 because I don't care for Origin on my rig.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on July 08, 2014, 08:20:57 PM
Statement: I assume Destiny will be a console game, so I'll prefer to avoid trying to play it with kbm.

Affirmation: The wife is all about angsty man-on-man love, so Dragon Age is definitely on the list.

Subject change: Pokemon Y is pretty fucking good for a Pokemon game.  They made up for that Black/White 2 bullshit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ezrast on July 13, 2014, 02:52:40 PM
The Evo Super Smash Bros. Melee finals are coming up on Twitch. So much nostalgia, even though I recognize almost none of the competitors' names anymore.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 25, 2014, 01:51:49 AM
Bioware does The Secret World? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32bLpcBoxT8)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on July 30, 2014, 01:08:37 PM
GOTY pre-order is up: http://store.steampowered.com/app/310080/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on July 30, 2014, 04:07:51 PM
More Vidja game """""""""""Journalism""""""""""""" layoffs, this time at gamespot.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 30, 2014, 04:41:04 PM
More Vidja game """""""""""Journalism""""""""""""" layoffs, this time at gamespot.

Provide a link or details, ya butt.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on July 30, 2014, 05:40:20 PM
More Vidja game """""""""""Journalism""""""""""""" layoffs, this time at gamespot.

Provide a link or details, ya butt.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2014-07-30-layoffs-at-gamespot

Quote
CBS Interactive gaming site makes staff cuts, says "a few positions were impacted"
GameSpot

Consumer gaming site GameSpot has undergone a significant round of layoffs, GamesIndustry.biz has learned.

Now-former GameSpot reviewer Carolyn Petit confirmed the news in a series of posts on Twitter, saying, "Today was my last day at GameSpot. It was a dream to work there, and I'm very proud of the work I did. I walk out alongside some colleagues I am honored and privileged to have worked with. And I will miss working with everyone at GS so much."

GameSpot is the flagship gaming brand at CBS Interactive, which also owns Giant Bomb, GameFAQs, and onGamers. CBSi touts GameSpot as streaming 50 million hours of live gaming content every month, with 25 million monthly visitors across its gaming platforms.

The full extent of the cuts is not clear yet, but they extended beyond the editorial team.

[UPDATE]: A GameSpot representative acknowledged the cuts, saying, "GameSpot did some shifting of internal resources as part of our long-term content and user engagement strategy. A few positions were impacted."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on July 30, 2014, 11:31:39 PM
Their 9 out of 10s would be missed.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on July 31, 2014, 07:54:39 AM
Petit and McShea got hit.  Woah.  Not that I really liked any of their work as a whole (both kind of annoyed me in their own special way), but Kevin Van Ord is going to be a busy man.

While Gamespot's rating numbers are usually inflated crap, you could really tell what the "real rating" was from the review itself.  Then every once in a while someone wouldn't pay up and they'd savage a game. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on July 31, 2014, 10:28:33 AM
I'm sure there's plenty of internet gloating by some groups over Petit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on July 31, 2014, 02:27:30 PM
Meant to post this a couple of days ago but forgot. From El Reg: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/22/computer_games_industry_set_to_crash_and_burn/

Quote
The computer games industry is set to see its revenues slip from $46.5bn this year to $41bn by 2019, a new study from Juniper Research has claimed. That's about a 12 per cent drop over the next five years. A new market forecast probing the PC and console games market also predicted that consoles will lose market share, with 50 per cent of all revenue coming from PC games. It also reveals that despite the decreasing sales of console hardware and increasing significance of mobile platforms, PC and console games will still account for over 50 per cent of industry revenues over the next five years. When the ninth generation of consoles arrives in 2019, there will be a short spike in software sales followed by a longer term decline.

Of course, anyone paying attention to the "AAA" game development industry figured this out a while back.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 31, 2014, 03:00:44 PM
Articles like this mean nothing to me. All money made is impossible to track and their data is likely useless in the overall scheme of things.

For example, Star Citizen will get that 5.5bn.   (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on July 31, 2014, 05:33:45 PM
Twelve percent is the number that leaps to mind when I think of something crashing and burning.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: zumu on July 31, 2014, 06:36:49 PM
I don't know if this is the right place to put this, but I received a cryptic email from BioWare today with a link to this site: http://www.youve-been-chosen.com/en (http://www.youve-been-chosen.com/en)

Viral-ish marketing for some sort of horror game it seems.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on July 31, 2014, 07:57:26 PM
I don't know if this is the right place to put this, but I received a cryptic email from BioWare today with a link to this site: http://www.youve-been-chosen.com/en (http://www.youve-been-chosen.com/en)

Viral-ish marketing for some sort of horror game it seems.
I'll play the path where you pick to be kind of a jerk, but a sarcastic jerk, instead of the really nerdy good guy path and the real mean jerk path. I mean I know they'll all lead to the same ending but it's the journey that counts.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 31, 2014, 10:08:11 PM
I don't know if this is the right place to put this, but I received a cryptic email from BioWare today with a link to this site: http://www.youve-been-chosen.com/en (http://www.youve-been-chosen.com/en)

Viral-ish marketing for some sort of horror game it seems.

Origin.

So, Virus-ish marketing imo.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on August 01, 2014, 01:52:04 AM
I like how the cited study is worded and I admire the precision of their crystal ball regarding the future. I also like how there is no sensationalism and hyperbole whatsoever (12.5% is 'crash and burn' now? Really?

'A new market forecast probing the PC and console games market'... So mobile games aren't games for some reason? Or would it simply just undermine the 'Waaaaaah, we're all gonna die' argument if they would have added the mobile revenues and could no longer argue that revenue will decline and that it simply shifts from PC and Console to mobile?

'predicted that consoles will lose market share, with 50 per cent of all revenue coming from PC games'. For that to happen Germany (one of the last significant PC game markets in the world) would need to buy a shitload of PC games. When popular PC game makers like Valve or Blizzard seriously explore the 'free to play' market  and even try to make the PC more 'console-like' (Steambox for example) I somehow doubt that  the market segment that is on decline the longest will make such a serious comeback over the next five years.

'When the ninth generation of consoles arrives in 2019'. Hah you wish!. It will be 2015 until we see the first big realeses for the current comsole cycle and with the current dev budgets and project timefrimes by the time 2019 rolls arounds we'll still be well in the current cycle


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 07, 2014, 06:32:46 AM
Email today:

Quote from: Insect Overlords
Starting today, Twitch will be implementing technology intended to help broadcasters avoid the storage of videos containing unauthorized third-party audio.  We respect the rights of copyright owners, and are voluntarily undertaking this effort to help protect both our broadcasters and copyright owners.

I'm sure several of us got this.  As predicted in a thread that I can't find be bothered to look for.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on August 07, 2014, 07:00:20 AM
I didn't get it but it's not surprising. Will the next step be checking for said audio during streams? That only seems to target archives.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on August 07, 2014, 07:38:43 AM
Archives are getting muted for just the background music of the games they are playing.  Their algorithm needs some work.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 07, 2014, 07:43:59 AM
The game music copyright is not owned by the streamer.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on August 07, 2014, 07:47:17 AM
5 points for Ravenclaw.


Twitch CEO AMA going on right now.  (http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2cwfu2/i_am_twitch_ceo_emmett_shear_ask_me_almost/) PJSalt


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 07, 2014, 12:14:04 PM
Q: What if a monkey streams a game?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on August 07, 2014, 12:27:56 PM
Q: What if a monkey streams a game?

(http://526735280.r.lightningbase-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/monkey-selfie-feature.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tazelbain on August 07, 2014, 12:35:13 PM
What happens when a monkey wins the Hearthstone World Championship?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on August 07, 2014, 12:37:54 PM
Q: What if a monkey streams a game?
How about a fish that plays Pokémon?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Stormwaltz on August 07, 2014, 02:36:23 PM
A half-dozen people emailed me this within ten minutes of it being announced.  :oh_i_see:

http://blog.bioware.com/2014/08/07/casey-hudsons-departure-from-biowareea/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 07, 2014, 02:49:11 PM
I don't consider anyone leaving Bioware as leaving Bioware. I consider them leaving EA. Bioware died a long time ago.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Stormwaltz on August 07, 2014, 03:14:49 PM
I'd say in this case it counts; Casey has been there far longer than EA (his first title was MDK2 in 2000).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on August 07, 2014, 05:57:48 PM
Does that count as the Green or Red ending? ;D


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Outlawedprod on August 08, 2014, 07:43:29 AM
Does that count as the Green or Red ending? ;D

Does it even matter?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on August 08, 2014, 08:57:34 AM
Like any Bioware game, the big events converge, but the end user experience feels different.  It feels a lot better to go out on a high note willingly than a low one by being forced out.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on August 08, 2014, 05:37:54 PM
Does that count as the Green or Red ending? ;D
This is the "no, fuck you Starchild" ending, and ME4 is the next cycle.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on August 13, 2014, 04:14:37 PM
Silent Hills stuff moved here:

http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=24351.0


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on August 15, 2014, 11:00:51 AM
Spending some cash there EA and Microsoft.

http://youtu.be/-DL0W9AUCuY


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on August 15, 2014, 12:14:39 PM
I watched all 3:36 of that video and I can confidently say that none of that was marketed towards me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 15, 2014, 12:21:29 PM
Doesn't need to be marketed to you to be completely awesome.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on August 15, 2014, 12:40:55 PM
Dear God, it's full of dollar signs.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on August 17, 2014, 12:06:54 AM
That was goddamned fantastic.  If only they could put the same amount of creativity in the game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on August 18, 2014, 03:24:36 PM
For the first time ever I got a Steam coupon for a game I actually wanted: Dream. (http://store.steampowered.com/app/229580/)   :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on August 18, 2014, 06:21:37 PM
In Video Game related drama; Zoe Quinn, the creator of Depression Quest basically got helldumped by her thoroughly cuckolded boyfriend. Turns out she basically was fucking around on him with 5 other people, including her boss (who is married) and a Kotaku writer who gave her game a good review.

Videeeeeeeoooooooooooo gaaaameeeesss


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 18, 2014, 06:23:05 PM
Related so tangentially as to not even be a relevant piece of data.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on August 18, 2014, 06:35:44 PM
Also Phil Fish is back on twitter I guess, shitting his pants about the Ferguson thing and telling gamers they don't 'deserve' him.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on August 18, 2014, 07:23:51 PM
In Video Game related drama; Zoe Quinn, the creator of Depression Quest basically got helldumped by her thoroughly cuckolded boyfriend. Turns out she basically was fucking around on him with 5 other people, including her boss (who is married) and a Kotaku writer who gave her game a good review.

Videeeeeeeoooooooooooo gaaaameeeesss
She made the best game ever.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 19, 2014, 02:06:33 AM
http://store.steampowered.com/app/224740/

neat


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on August 19, 2014, 02:19:55 AM
http://store.steampowered.com/app/224740/

neat

Nah, this is the real hot stuff (discounted!)  :grin: :

http://store.steampowered.com/app/291030/

Dodger's playthrough is quite funny (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6ABHS9NTq8)

(but seriously, Clockwork Empires is quite interesting)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on August 19, 2014, 05:29:21 AM
Puppy Games dev writes a spiel about the 'dark side' of the indie industry, which literally anyone with a brain stem knows about. (http://www.puppygames.net/blog/?p=1574)

Customers are assholes, internet trolls are assholes, support is hard/expensive, race to the bottom thanks to Steam Sales and Humble Bundle, coupled with multiple responses of "Uh, we're like making a bunch of money. This is about the *industry*" to people pointing out that their repertoire so far is almost entirely stylized versions of flash/phone games.

Also some defense of Phil Fish, justifying his behavior because he's "sitting on a pile of cash which is more than any of you will make in your lifetimes".


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 19, 2014, 07:26:36 AM
Oh, well, I forgot that money justifies being a retard.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on August 19, 2014, 09:28:45 AM
http://store.steampowered.com/app/224740/

neat

What in the fuck did I just watch?  :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Evildrider on August 19, 2014, 10:41:04 AM
In Video Game related drama; Zoe Quinn, the creator of Depression Quest basically got helldumped by her thoroughly cuckolded boyfriend. Turns out she basically was fucking around on him with 5 other people, including her boss (who is married) and a Kotaku writer who gave her game a good review.

Videeeeeeeoooooooooooo gaaaameeeesss

Lol I heard about this shit today on Reddit. 
Here is the dude that she cheated on giving the story:  http://thezoepost.wordpress.com/
Also this vid talks more about the gaming journalism side about what she's done:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5-51PfwI3M


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 19, 2014, 11:26:22 AM
Puppy Games dev writes a spiel about the 'dark side' of the indie industry, which literally anyone with a brain stem knows about. (http://www.puppygames.net/blog/?p=1574)

Customers are assholes, internet trolls are assholes, support is hard/expensive, race to the bottom thanks to Steam Sales and Humble Bundle, coupled with multiple responses of "Uh, we're like making a bunch of money. This is about the *industry*" to people pointing out that their repertoire so far is almost entirely stylized versions of flash/phone games.

Also some defense of Phil Fish, justifying his behavior because he's "sitting on a pile of cash which is more than any of you will make in your lifetimes".
He's right though. The individual customer is worth fuckall. They did this to themselves. I say "they" because I'm still willing to pay $20+ for the right game. The average internet person is not.

But really, he didn't touch on the problem. Which is this: The internet allowed customers a 24 hour feedback loop. That, more than anything, fucked gaming right in the butthole forever.

That said, I don't feel bad the the indie developer. The vast majority of them are indie because they're unmarketable shitheels. I do, however, jive with the idea that the customer fucked themselves by being cheap and don't really deserve to complain and directing their ire at a neckbeard is a stupid thing to do.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 19, 2014, 11:30:31 AM
Actually, I want to say one other thing on that topic. I started a company in an industry where the vast majority of customers have their REAL NAME tied to their feedback. It makes all the difference in the world. The Newsroom had it right in the episode where Will wanted people's real names tied to their shit. Forcing civility on people is a good thing. It completely daggers the possibility of them being total shitheels. And the ones that are total shitheels, well, you just ignore them.

Gaming has none of that. Absolutely none. The only people with real names tied to their product is indie devs. And since there's only like 50 of them and they're all super awful humans, it just makes them targets instead of increasing civility.

Finally, in gaming, the customer is nearly (NEARLY) never right. But fuck me do they think they're right more so than in any other industry.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on August 19, 2014, 12:06:38 PM
I see an awful lot of vile comments under articles on the internet, tied to people's Facebook accounts, with their real name and picture right there next to their racist (or whatever) screed. Getting rid of anonymity has not helped as much as I hoped it would.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on August 19, 2014, 12:09:01 PM
LOLGAMEZJOURNALIZMS!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on August 19, 2014, 12:18:56 PM
In Video Game related drama; Zoe Quinn, the creator of Depression Quest basically got helldumped by her thoroughly cuckolded boyfriend. Turns out she basically was fucking around on him with 5 other people, including her boss (who is married) and a Kotaku writer who gave her game a good review.

Videeeeeeeoooooooooooo gaaaameeeesss

Lol I heard about this shit today on Reddit. 
Here is the dude that she cheated on giving the story:  http://thezoepost.wordpress.com/
Also this vid talks more about the gaming journalism side about what she's done:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5-51PfwI3M

I'm not sure what to say about this. She probably needs some professional help. He needs to let it go and not document every single thing they (or she) have ever done. Reading this made me be thankful for the fact that social networks did not exist when I was dating.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 19, 2014, 12:22:28 PM
I see an awful lot of vile comments under articles on the internet, tied to people's Facebook accounts, with their real name and picture right there next to their racist (or whatever) screed. Getting rid of anonymity has not helped as much as I hoped it would.
Politics has no place in what I'm talking about. However, real journalists and actual politicians know how to deal with people like that - ignore them. Only the shitty ones take the bait.

In consumer industries, getting rid of anonymity is a huge deal.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on August 19, 2014, 12:23:09 PM
Puppy Games dev writes a spiel about the 'dark side' of the indie industry, which literally anyone with a brain stem knows about. (http://www.puppygames.net/blog/?p=1574)

Customers are assholes, internet trolls are assholes, support is hard/expensive, race to the bottom thanks to Steam Sales and Humble Bundle, coupled with multiple responses of "Uh, we're like making a bunch of money. This is about the *industry*" to people pointing out that their repertoire so far is almost entirely stylized versions of flash/phone games.

Also some defense of Phil Fish, justifying his behavior because he's "sitting on a pile of cash which is more than any of you will make in your lifetimes".
He's right though. The individual customer is worth fuckall. They did this to themselves. I say "they" because I'm still willing to pay $20+ for the right game. The average internet person is not.

But really, he didn't touch on the problem. Which is this: The internet allowed customers a 24 hour feedback loop. That, more than anything, fucked gaming right in the butthole forever.

That said, I don't feel bad the the indie developer. The vast majority of them are indie because they're unmarketable shitheels. I do, however, jive with the idea that the customer fucked themselves by being cheap and don't really deserve to complain and directing their ire at a neckbeard is a stupid thing to do.
I'm saying this isn't exactly revelation.

If customers are nothing, then well, ignore their complaints I guess?

As for Phil Fish; I didn't like him because he's an unbelievable asshole who cannot be shit upon enough BECAUSE he's an unbelievable asshole- not because he made a bad videogame. I literally just played Fez for the first time last week because I got it free on PSN+. It was boring and a bad platformer so I uninstalled it not long after I tried to make myself play it. Gamers saying mean things to him didn't make him a prick- is it exceptionally clear he always was one.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 19, 2014, 12:28:41 PM
Indie Game: The Movie's alternate title was "A Wild Pack of Assholes."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on August 19, 2014, 12:40:58 PM
Also just an FYI for this guy; if it's anyone's fault games become worthless overnight it's because:

a) Steam/Valve are assholes, provided their implication that Valve will literally veto your pricepoint if they so wish is true.

or

b) Other Indie Devs and AAA devs buying into the sale mentality.

Customers respond to the market. Steam got a bright idea to do firesales on shitloads of games, people went apeshit over it, people probably didn't get the longer term implication of this. The dev community collectively decided bundles and 80%-off sales are good and moved units, so if it's a race to the bottom they fucking started it. Expecting customers to suddenly pay more out of principal would get you laughed at in any other large industry in the world.

Wow, you mean when you give a non-essential product away, it technically makes it worthless? Whoda'thunkit?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on August 19, 2014, 12:43:52 PM
...I just got an email for a Jumbo Humble Bundle now. ha.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Abelian75 on August 19, 2014, 03:31:40 PM
Lol I heard about this shit today on Reddit. 
Here is the dude that she cheated on giving the story:  http://thezoepost.wordpress.com/
Also this vid talks more about the gaming journalism side about what she's done:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5-51PfwI3M

I admit to finding this far more entertaining than I probably should.  The "OMG journalistic integrity" angle is pretty ridiculous, but man is it fun seeing holier-than-thou types get taken down a peg.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on August 19, 2014, 06:28:22 PM
Puppy Games dev writes a spiel about the 'dark side' of the indie industry, which literally anyone with a brain stem knows about. (http://www.puppygames.net/blog/?p=1574)

PR stunt IMO.

Dude literally flat out states in the blog that being an asshole on the internet leads to more sales, then tells his customers that they're all worthless and stupid and he doesn't need them.  In the comments, he's pointed out that sales have gone up since he posted this.  So, good job, I guess.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on August 19, 2014, 07:11:35 PM
Losing anonymity only helps in professions and social situations where reputation actually has a material impact on people. In professions where literally no one cares if you're a cheat, liar, thief, racist, sexist or scumbag, then tying real names to everything doesn't change anything.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Evildrider on August 19, 2014, 07:16:46 PM
Lol I heard about this shit today on Reddit. 
Here is the dude that she cheated on giving the story:  http://thezoepost.wordpress.com/
Also this vid talks more about the gaming journalism side about what she's done:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5-51PfwI3M

I admit to finding this far more entertaining than I probably should.  The "OMG journalistic integrity" angle is pretty ridiculous, but man is it fun seeing holier-than-thou types get taken down a peg.

The thing that made laugh the loudest is her complaining about nude pictures of her being sent around.  It's not hard cuz there about 500 of them.  She did nude modeling for a suicide girls rip off sitea few years ago.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on August 19, 2014, 07:40:52 PM
It's interesting watching you all take a completely different tack than Lum's facebook, where you'd all be labeled Mysigonistic pigs for not immeiately stating you don't believe the ex's story because he's been jilted.  Or instead pointing the finger at the journalists who gave her good reviews and in any way shape or form implying she might have had nefarious motives. Clearly only the guys were in the wrong and she's just being slut shamed for having a vagina and daring to have sex in a professional relationship.

I enjoy the "they're all assholes" tack here a lot more.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Abelian75 on August 19, 2014, 08:39:49 PM
Like I said, I think the journalistic integrity angle is bullshit, and just people trying to make something Professional and Serious so they can pretend it's about something other than an awesome revenge story.  The reason people are drooling over it is that it's an instance of someone who habitually hurts people getting hurt back.  It's awesome when that happens.  Gender has nothing to do with it.  Cheating men get vilified all the time, and rightly so.

On top of that, it's also like... weirdly good soap opera drama.  Somehow Phil Fish is involved, even!  Holy god that guy is full of hatred!  All these random people I had no idea were friends, suddenly involved in one awesome story.  It's like watching professional wrestling or some shit.

There's even an awesome woman from the past appearing on twitter talking about good it is to see her finally get her comeuppance!  Presumably she cheated with that woman's partner too.  You can't make this stuff up!

Yes, I'm a little ashamed of myself, but man it's good.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 19, 2014, 08:50:19 PM
I had to look this girl up. I don't mean this in any ironic/meme-y sense.

But seriously.

2/10

Why are dudes sleeping with her to begin with?

Edit: And yes, I TRIED to cherry pick something that made her attractive. I couldn't.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Evildrider on August 19, 2014, 08:55:02 PM
Like I said, I think the journalistic integrity angle is bullshit, and just people trying to make something Professional and Serious so they can pretend it's about something other than an awesome revenge story.  The reason people are drooling over it is that it's an instance of someone who habitually hurts people getting hurt back.  It's awesome when that happens.  Gender has nothing to do with it.  Cheating men get vilified all the time, and rightly so.

On top of that, it's also like... weirdly good soap opera drama.  Somehow Phil Fish is involved, even!  Holy god that guy is full of hatred!  All these random people I had no idea were friends, suddenly involved in one awesome story.  It's like watching professional wrestling or some shit.

There's even an awesome woman from the past appearing on twitter talking about good it is to see her finally get her comeuppance!  Presumably she cheated with that woman's partner too.  You can't make this stuff up!

Yes, I'm a little ashamed of myself, but man it's good.

I'm not ashamed, I take my comedy where I can.   :awesome_for_real:



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Evildrider on August 19, 2014, 08:55:37 PM
I had to look this girl up. I don't mean this in any ironic/meme-y sense.

But seriously.

2/10

Why are dudes sleeping with her to begin with?

Edit: And yes, I TRIED to cherry pick something that made her attractive. I couldn't.

She's not even a butterface. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 19, 2014, 08:57:17 PM
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She's not even a butterface.

I don't actually care that she's unattractive and dudes are sleeping with her. I just feel like all these people knew she was fake-seeing this dude (I mean really, you cheat that much, you're not seeing anybody) should have stopped to think "you know, I can do better. This bitch is the town bike."

But seriously.

2/10.

That applies to her looks, personality, and her shitty fucking games.

Edit: I don't have a problem with people who are ugly or overweight by social standards. But this girl is an attention whore and has become a public figure. I have standards for public figures. Also, umlauts are stupid.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 19, 2014, 09:03:06 PM
Also, this journalistic integrity shit (in the video linked) is whatever.

Gaming Journalism is journalism about as much as Reality TV is reality.

It's not.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 19, 2014, 09:14:19 PM
Also, I was complaining about shit like this before it was cool.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 19, 2014, 11:15:43 PM
Bullshit Zoe whatever discussion continued here: http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=24363.0


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on August 20, 2014, 10:28:03 AM
Why are dudes sleeping with her to begin with?

Gamers will fuck anything that gives them even the slightest bit of attention? I didn't think that was hard to figure out.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 20, 2014, 10:50:43 AM
Why are dudes sleeping with her to begin with?
Gamers will fuck anything that gives them even the slightest bit of attention? I didn't think that was hard to figure out.
Pretty sure everyone here is a gamer and I'm also pretty sure most of us have standards that the Zoe chick does not meet in any capacity.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on August 20, 2014, 11:47:19 AM
Prepare your jokes about my standards...

Assuming I didn't know the personality details.  That's a bigger turn-off than square nails.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 20, 2014, 11:50:33 AM
I said "most of us." That wasn't a slight about standards. That was merely a response to Haemish about "gamers will fuck anything."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on August 20, 2014, 12:00:15 PM
I'd like to think most of us have higher standards about just about everything than normal gamers.  :why_so_serious:

That said, she's not nearly as horrible looking as you describe and if I didn't know anything about a boyfriend, was single and the mood struck, she doesn't have sharp knees. She certainly isn't worth all the hullabaloo by any stretch of the imagination but then again... drama is anathema to me. The hottest of the hot supermodels is not worth even a fraction of the drama involved in this situation.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 20, 2014, 12:00:39 PM
If it makes anyone feel better, I have pretty reasonable standards.  Meaning: no dicks.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on August 20, 2014, 12:59:10 PM
Totally.  But then we're all too old to put up with jerks.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on August 20, 2014, 01:35:37 PM
Those aren't the dicks he's looking for. Er... not looking for.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on August 20, 2014, 01:57:14 PM
You spoil my fun.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on August 20, 2014, 02:04:37 PM
Dicks can do that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on August 20, 2014, 02:51:21 PM
This is true, of both kinds.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on August 20, 2014, 02:51:50 PM
From the "fuck no, I will never play this jesus christ" genre:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/319510/

Schild might like it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on August 20, 2014, 02:56:15 PM
I didn't like going to Chuck E. Cheese as a kid because the animatronic characters freaked me out. So I think I'll stay away from this one.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 20, 2014, 05:38:24 PM
Without looking I assume it's five nights at Freddies. Already planning on getting it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on August 20, 2014, 06:43:35 PM
The dude's other games are the most "wtf am i looking at" shit I've ever seen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSAoggVnbb4


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 20, 2014, 07:58:09 PM
Eh. It just looks like Final Fantasy with a heavy dose of LSD.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Stormwaltz on August 24, 2014, 01:42:38 PM
"Hacker" Tweets bomb threat against plane carrying John Smedley.

http://www.polygon.com/2014/8/24/6063149/hacker-threat-diverts-flight-carrying-sony-online-president


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 24, 2014, 02:13:23 PM
That's only strange. SOE and PSN share nothing but a parent company. Weirdos.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on August 24, 2014, 05:55:07 PM
Lizard Squad have been DDoSing al sorts of people (Bnet, NCSoft, PSN) over the last week or so. They probably think they're going to get away with everything - after all, it's just le lelz on the intrawebs and not real, rite gaiz?  :uhrr:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 25, 2014, 09:17:23 AM
Yeah, it's only bad if you steal data. :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Druzil on August 25, 2014, 09:33:42 AM
Path of Exile was hit on Saturday evening and a number of high ranked people on the new hardcore league ripped.    I logged out after the second time the server totally went down, it was basically unplayable.  Not sure how long it lasted though.

Hopefully they all get caught.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bunk on August 29, 2014, 11:59:11 AM
Seems like a good thread for random game news from PAX.

Just saw Volition's panel. They are putting out another game recycling the Saints Row 4 engine: Gat out of Hell.
You play Gat or Kinzie and head to hell to save the President from having to marry Satan's daughter. The general theme is a parody of classic Disney movies.

Also announced they are porting SR4 to XBone and PS4.
Good news front: SR4 + all DLC will be $29, the new game will be $19 and doesn't require SR4.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 30, 2014, 09:03:10 PM
PC Gamer made a worthless list: http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/08/30/the-pc-gamer-top-100/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on August 30, 2014, 09:46:26 PM
Yeah, I clicked through until it got in the '80's and saw that Rome: Total War II was on there. That game still isn't unfucked after what... 12 patches? I don't care what they put at #1, that alone tells me it was made by clueless fuckwits.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on August 30, 2014, 09:48:24 PM
I only made it to 92 where they've got Assassin's Creed 4 on the list.

Edit: Forcing myself to keep going for the comedy. Battlefield 4 made it in at 50.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ragnoros on August 30, 2014, 10:12:41 PM
Seems like a good thread for random game news from PAX.

Just saw Volition's panel. They are putting out another game recycling the Saints Row 4 engine: Gat out of Hell.
You play Gat or Kinzie and head to hell to save the President from having to marry Satan's daughter. The general theme is a parody of classic Disney movies.

Oh hell yes!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on August 30, 2014, 10:17:36 PM
Hatoful Boyfriend not at first place?  Bullshit.

These are always so stupid.  Three entries for Monkey Island, one for Day of the Tentacle, one for Grim Fandango, no sign of Sierra anywhere.  Crysis?  Rainbow Six?  Never heard of them, obviously must be pretty shit.  StarCraft?  What's that?  I don't know what this "Master of Magic" is, but I bet it can't hold a candle to Return to fucking Castle Wolfenstein.  And man, when I think of GREAT games, I think of the PC port of Dark Souls! Definintely deserves to be in the top TEN GREATEST PC GAMES OF ALL TIME.

P.S. X-Com 1994 at 84th place.  XCOM 2012 at 6th place.

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Is ‘immersive sim’ the right way to describe a game where a man says “I’ll drive, you shoot” while pointing at a child’s tricycle?

What?  No?  Of course it's not, the fuck kind of stupid ass question is that?  Do you not know what those words mean or something?

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No One Lives Forever 2 is my favourite immersive sim

I don't even... Are you... what?  Man, what the actual FUCK is wrong with you. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny2scpc_N5w)

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Hi, I’m Ben, and I love all the things that you hate. Did you hate the combat in Mirror’s Edge? I loved it!

God damn this is some stupid shit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 30, 2014, 10:26:26 PM
Well, I mean, I don't like the list but I'm not gonna say "put Crysis on it, you infidels."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on August 30, 2014, 10:33:10 PM
Well, I mean, I don't like the list but I'm not gonna say "put Crysis on it, you infidels."

Eh, fair enough, it was originally going to be Quake, but then I re-read the list and noticed Quake 2 sitting somewhere in the high eighties.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 30, 2014, 11:04:59 PM
Was Quake 3 Arena on there? If not, lol. I skipped to number one. That's how I judge lists. If Planescape: Torment or Deus Ex isn't at the top, I assume the list is bunk.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on August 30, 2014, 11:21:57 PM
Was Quake 3 Arena on there? If not, lol. I skipped to number one. That's how I judge lists. If Planescape: Torment or Deus Ex isn't at the top, I assume the list is bunk.

Planescape was all the way back at 35.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 30, 2014, 11:58:42 PM
Planescape being 35 on that list is more relevant to the state of gaming than Zoe Quinn.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on August 31, 2014, 12:02:58 AM
That list was bad, and made worse by having to click on 11 different fucking pages just to see it. Put your list in a fucking list form, not 11 pages of bullshit clickbait.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on August 31, 2014, 12:07:55 AM
That's a pretty terrible and random list.  Was there a single Persona game on the list?  I love Bioware, but two fucking ME games in the top 10 including landing the top spot? 

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82533/brady.gif)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on August 31, 2014, 12:25:07 AM
Two Battlefields (and a Bad Company), both Company of Heroes, two Mass Effects, two ARMA's, and they only find room for one Diablo (and it's 3). They've got fucking FFVII on their list.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 31, 2014, 12:28:29 AM
That's a pretty terrible and random list.  Was there a single Persona game on the list?  I love Bioware, but two fucking ME games in the top 10 including landing the top spot? 

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82533/brady.gif)

Well, it was PC Games. So no, there wouldn't be a Persona to list at all.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 31, 2014, 12:29:18 AM
That list was bad, and made worse by having to click on 11 different fucking pages just to see it. Put your list in a fucking list form, not 11 pages of bullshit clickbait.

That precise practice is why I have ABE installed. I never ad-blocked until people started breaking up their pages for more ad-views.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 31, 2014, 11:42:38 AM
I'm watching Raedwulf play 5 Nights at Freddie's. This shit is ridiculous.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on August 31, 2014, 05:37:28 PM
The Top 100 games list of champions: http://amr.abime.net/amr_amiga_power_top_100.php


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on August 31, 2014, 06:13:56 PM
Well, it was PC Games. So no, there wouldn't be a Persona to list at all.

I blame being sick.  Derp.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on September 01, 2014, 08:38:29 AM
He was saying "Fuck you, bitches", right?

Here's something that might be useless chatter to you but it's heartbreaking for me.  My xbox 360 is almost full and I have to edit.  Deleting games for me is what throwing away books is to most of you (I throw 'em away all the time!).  I don't know what to do other than panic as the time to act grows near.  Most of them are freebies from xbox gold but still....  This is why I HATE digital games.  If they were all in boxes, I could just stack them neatly in a cupboard, but noooo....

(http://i.imgur.com/3m1BTce.gif)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Xanthippe on September 01, 2014, 06:02:30 PM
He was saying "Fuck you, bitches", right?

Here's something that might be useless chatter to you but it's heartbreaking for me.  My xbox 360 is almost full and I have to edit.  Deleting games for me is what throwing away books is to most of you (I throw 'em away all the time!).  I don't know what to do other than panic as the time to act grows near.  Most of them are freebies from xbox gold but still....  This is why I HATE digital games.  If they were all in boxes, I could just stack them neatly in a cupboard, but noooo....

(http://i.imgur.com/3m1BTce.gif)

You can't re-download them again? Or the saved files are also deleted?

My son has the xbox360 - I haven't played with it much at all, ever, so I don't know how those things work. Steam spoils me. Every system should have a system like that, where it knows what you own and what you don't.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on September 01, 2014, 07:04:46 PM
I don't know.  I've never deleted a game.  I should check that, though.   :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on September 01, 2014, 10:41:47 PM
I don't know.  I've never deleted a game.  I should check that, though.   :grin:

I bet a 20 second google search will provide that answer.  You can even do it on your phone in the toilet.  No, I don't mean to say your phone is in your toilet.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on September 02, 2014, 06:20:32 AM
Game data is separate from save data on 360 and PS3.  Generally you can redownload things which you have previously purchased, but there have been occasions where things are removed from XBL and PSN.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on September 02, 2014, 08:19:09 AM
I don't have a mobile phone and I don't google... I just ask here. 

So there.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on September 02, 2014, 09:37:30 PM
First world problems.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Pagz on September 02, 2014, 11:35:27 PM
WE ARE GOOGLE


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on September 03, 2014, 07:38:43 PM
"Google" does rather sound like one of those crazy Aussie nonsense words. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on September 07, 2014, 10:22:40 AM
I was just reading something on The Sims 4.  There's a bug that allows children to "woohoo" (which means have sex) with grown ups including their parents.  OOPSIES.  Also, you can't drive, have a swimming pool or basement, or even toddlers.  Apparently, your baby goes from newborn to a big kid with nothing in between.  I don't get that bit.  It also complained that if you neglect your baby it turns into a devil baby.  The "woohoo"  (it might be "woowoo", not sure) and the devil baby are bugs.  I don't know how you can accidentally make a devil baby, but there you have it.  Someone said that maybe there are no toddlers and swimming pools because you can play online and they don't want you drowning your children in front of the whole Sims world.  I don't know.  It all sounds weird to me.  Of course, as usual, I only skimmed the posts so some, perhaps all, of this is wrong. 

Does anyone here play The Sims games?  I played one of them but it didn't hold my attention for very long.  Like a week or so maybe.  It was YEARS ago.  I do know that you could put people in a pool and take away all the ladders and they'd drown.  I didn't do it but I remember wanting to.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on September 07, 2014, 02:12:42 PM
Uwe Boll, renowed director famous for "Far Cry" and "Alone and the Dark", told us what he really thinks about video games.

I'll translate it as literal as possible, to preserve the...special flavor:

"They are small, pathetic wieners. Blizzard and Gas Powered, and all those Spackerlacken [?? dont know that word, Cala] from Ubisoft which you honor so highly, are in reality tiny full-cunts, which sit around like tiny Spackis [again ??] and programme some shit on their PC and then have illusions of having done something productive for the world. "

"I always cared a wet shit-dirt about videogames, and also never played videogames, but earned money with it and used it to produce films. "

And asked about how he still gets actors willing to work with him:"Actors are for a big majority little whores, which one can just hire. And if they get money they act any shit."

 :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on September 07, 2014, 05:33:10 PM
Citizen Kane of Gaming


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bunk on September 07, 2014, 06:59:30 PM

Does anyone here play The Sims games? 

I've played em all, including four, and its not near as bad as they are saying - every Sims launch has had bugs. They actually managed to make the game run quite smoothly and load quickly (as opposed to 3 which could take literally ten minutes to load the game if you had any custom content). Sims players always bitch when a new Sims launches because they expected EA would give them all the expansion content from the previous version for free in the new one (lol).

Its a base Sims game and it runs well. They cut a few things, added a few others, and overall it satisfies the urge I have for that style of game. Like any Sims, just go into it knowing that if you actually like it, they will be releasing $300 in expansions over the next two years.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on September 08, 2014, 04:18:12 AM
which sit around like tiny Spackis [again ??]

I guess that particular piece of german vernacular hasn't found its way into Austria yet? 'Spacken' (plur.) or 'Spacko' (sing.) is someone who is and acts very stupid. The best translation - with a comparable level of offensiveness - would be retard. It's also a good aproximation because as with retard certain sociotopes use 'Spacko' as a term of 'endearment' - like gay etc.

It's fitting for Dr. (someone actually awarded that man a ph.d.) Uwe Boll, that he can't even use insults in his own native language corerctly.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: palmer_eldritch on September 08, 2014, 04:32:54 AM
Just so people know, in English words like "spacky", "spacko", "spaz" or similar are derogatory variations of "spastic" - a term for someone with cerebral palsy - and are considered very offensive. It may be that the German word doesn't have exactly the same meaning.

Edit: Though it's also true that some people would use the word and say it's just a joke etc.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on September 08, 2014, 04:48:29 AM
In German though it doesn't. That's because there's also 'Spast' or 'Spasti'. Spacko is as offensive as 'Spasti' though, that's why I said that it is on the same level as retard. Just as with gay or retard in the US though it's also used by 12 year old boys to refer to each other (that's why I called it a'term of endearment' with implied irony). That doesn't make it any less offensive but it's still a reality that it's also used in that way.

If you read Boll's original comment you'll see that 'Spacko' was probably the least bad curse word he used.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on September 08, 2014, 04:50:52 AM
Another thing I've found is that the offensiveness of "spaz" varies wildly between the US and the UK. As far as I've been aware, "spaz" in the US is viewed as a weak insult.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on September 08, 2014, 06:41:13 AM
Uwe Boll should direct one of the DC films.  Their philosophies fit together perfectly.

I also wonder what great works he's done for humanity.  Kettle, pots, and name calling...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on September 08, 2014, 07:43:35 AM
Uwe Boll should direct one of the DC films.  Their philosophies fit together perfectly.

I also wonder what great works he's done for humanity.  Kettle, pots, and name calling...

Oh, none. Even the German Wikipedia considers him one of the worst directors ever. Without " ", so not as a quote, but as a statement.

In case you ever need to be offensive in German:

Vollfotze = as in "total cunt", but Fotze has a stronger emphasis on the vaginal part (as opposed to just general insult like the British use it), which makes it more "dirty"

Scheißdreck = shit-dirt, What it says really, no context needed.

Spacki
= Kelly translation makes sense. As in Spasti = Spasticity.

Not mentioned here, but there is also:

Vollkoffer = Full Suitcase = Idiot, Retard

Arschgesicht
= Ass-face

Trotel = Idot, bit milder than Vollkoffer

Wixer
= Wanker

Schlampe = Slut

Arschloch
= Ass-hole

you'r welcome!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on September 08, 2014, 11:32:06 AM
Does anyone here play The Sims games?  I played one of them but it didn't hold my attention for very long.  Like a week or so maybe.  It was YEARS ago.  I do know that you could put people in a pool and take away all the ladders and they'd drown.  I didn't do it but I remember wanting to.

I played the very first one and drowned my Sims in a pool by doing the thing you said.  It was accidental, though, I swear.  I was all excited about finally being able to afford a pool, and I used the very last of my money to buy a diving board.  Which meant they could dive in but not climb back out.

:sad_panda:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Druzil on September 08, 2014, 03:12:09 PM
I didn't see this posted yet, Warlock - Master of the Arcane is free from the humble store today.   I think it's like a turn based 4X in the same setting from the Majesty games.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on September 08, 2014, 03:34:01 PM
It's a billion times better than Elemental...

...so I'd say it's worth about $5. So free is a deal!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on September 08, 2014, 05:26:13 PM
Yeah.  I played the hell out of Warlock when it was first released.  It's not perfect, but one of the games to come closest to Master of Magic.

Warlock 2 is only a slight iteration on it, too, so it's a great deal.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: trias_e on September 08, 2014, 05:49:30 PM
Without looking I assume it's five nights at Freddies. Already planning on getting it.

Horror games are usually good fun for me, but I can't play this one.  Bought it, played off and on for a few hours, and I'm done.  Most stressful game I've ever played.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on September 09, 2014, 08:22:44 AM
Daughter was watching some YouTuber beat Five Nights on the highest difficulty setting.  You don't need to monitor shit, it's all about clicking in the right order and doing it precisely. The video monitor would pop up once in a while but it was mostly light, door, door, light, door order.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 09, 2014, 08:53:12 AM
Watching someone else play horror games is ALWAYS easier than playing them yourself. It *always* (as in 100% of the time) makes them both barely scary at all and super easy looking. Go on, get a copy, tell me how simple it is in practice.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on September 09, 2014, 02:23:05 PM
Watching Super Mario speed runs where some savant has figured out the mathematically optimal path through each level is a very different experience from playing Super Mario.

I kinda hate the prevalence of YouTube playthroughs of video games and how it's become a substitute for actually playing the game.  It offends me as somebody who's interested in games as a medium; it's like reading the Cliff's Notes version of a great book.  Why bother?

 :geezer:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on September 09, 2014, 02:30:53 PM
Watching Super Mario speed runs where some savant has figured out the mathematically optimal path through each level is a very different experience from playing Super Mario.

I kinda hate the prevalence of YouTube playthroughs of video games and how it's become a substitute for actually playing the game.  It offends me as somebody who's interested in games as a medium; it's like reading the Cliff's Notes version of a great book.  Why bother?

 :geezer:

I look at it the other way - with games touting their story or narrative as the most important part, there isn't that much to be gained from actually playing through it.  I'll just watch a play through and call it a day.  I actually can't recall having watched a playthrough all the way through like that.  But I don't really play those kinds of games either anymore.  If the developer can't make the experience valuable enough to be worth more than just viewing it, why should I care about it as a game?

Also, with regard to the speed runs you were watching, were they tool assisted or not? The way you describe it makes it sound like a TAS run, but I'm not sure.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on September 09, 2014, 03:25:11 PM
New crowdfundable Space MMORPG from PGI, the people responsible for MechWarrior Online. It doesn't even try not to look like the cheapass version of Star Citizen, pledge site included (http://transversegame.com). That said, if you watch the Extended Trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b9IGV_H28g) after 3:00, Bryan Ekman will tell you that what they are doing is a MMORPG without NPCs cause the players do everything.

This seems too shitty to be true.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on September 09, 2014, 03:52:17 PM
From what I've heard, the Transverse site is pretty much entirely unencrypted, so any info you give them is pretty much out there for anyone to find.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Xanthippe on September 09, 2014, 04:49:50 PM
Microsoft to buy Mojang? (http://online.wsj.com/articles/microsoft-near-deal-to-buy-minecraft-1410300213)

 :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on September 09, 2014, 05:15:09 PM
lmao why would you buy a company destined to never produce another game?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on September 09, 2014, 05:38:37 PM
Kind of a head scratcher to me, too.  I guess Minecraft is still the top selling app on just about every store everywhere, but I don't know how that would play out at Microsoft, where huge sales figures for the PS4 online store aren't exactly something you can brag about in boardroom meetings.  Maybe they're just after the name, and we'll be seeing a Minecraft 2 announcement some time soon.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on September 09, 2014, 05:43:31 PM
Kind of a head scratcher to me, too.  I guess Minecraft is still the top selling app on just about every store everywhere, but I don't know how that would play out at Microsoft, where huge sales figures for the PS4 online store aren't exactly something you can brag about in boardroom meetings.  Maybe they're just after the name, and we'll be seeing a Minecraft 2 announcement some time soon.

They could turn it exclusive, in theory. Or do value-add stuff for PC/Xbox customers like hosting servers in Azure or whatever.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on September 09, 2014, 05:50:38 PM
I look at it the other way - with games touting their story or narrative as the most important part, there isn't that much to be gained from actually playing through it. 

Those games already fail as games and I'm not talking about them.  I can actually think of a few games I've played recently that would indeed have been better if I'd just watched the cutscenes, but I maintain that those aren't games in the first place, they're movies with a little bit of game stapled on (Last of Us, I'm looking at you).  

Maybe the problem is that those games are infecting people with their shitty notion of what a game is supposed to be.  I'd buy that argument.

Microsoft to buy Mojang? (http://online.wsj.com/articles/microsoft-near-deal-to-buy-minecraft-1410300213)

 :ye_gods:
After Notch threw his big public hissy fit about Facebook buying Oculus?   :popcorn:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on September 09, 2014, 10:24:11 PM
Kind of a head scratcher to me, too.  I guess Minecraft is still the top selling app on just about every store everywhere, but I don't know how that would play out at Microsoft, where huge sales figures for the PS4 online store aren't exactly something you can brag about in boardroom meetings.  Maybe they're just after the name, and we'll be seeing a Minecraft 2 announcement some time soon.

They could turn it exclusive, in theory. Or do value-add stuff for PC/Xbox customers like hosting servers in Azure or whatever.

Anything and everything Microsoft would do to it would ruin it utterly.  What could you improve about Minecraft that can't already be done with the current game?  For free? 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on September 10, 2014, 05:01:24 AM
You literally couldn't pick a dumber acquisition for Microsoft, so of course this is likely true.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on September 10, 2014, 07:01:46 AM
What could you improve about Minecraft that can't already be done with the current game?  For free? 

You could improve the direction of the flow of the money.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on September 10, 2014, 08:27:20 AM
New crowdfundable Space MMORPG from PGI, the people responsible for MechWarrior Online. It doesn't even try not to look like the cheapass version of Star Citizen, pledge site included (http://transversegame.com). That said, if you watch the Extended Trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b9IGV_H28g) after 3:00, Bryan Ekman will tell you that what they are doing is a MMORPG without NPCs cause the players do everything.

This seems too shitty to be true.


It's PGI. You KNOW it'll be a shitty clusterfuck of half-promised, never-delivered features and imbalanced fuckery.

EDIT: Also, an MMO DID have no NPC's (sort of) - Asheron's Call 2. It sucked monkey ass.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on September 10, 2014, 09:50:18 AM
I'm ready for "indie" to stop being considered a game genre.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 10, 2014, 10:02:46 AM
I'm ready for "indie" to stop being considered a game genre.

Would you prefer Alternative? Finding good music in the 90s was hard.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on September 10, 2014, 04:07:21 PM
Sort of like that, yes.  I'd like to just not have "indie" as a tag or filter since I can already sort by price in any modern market.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on September 10, 2014, 04:09:49 PM
New crowdfundable Space MMORPG from PGI, the people responsible for MechWarrior Online. It doesn't even try not to look like the cheapass version of Star Citizen, pledge site included (http://transversegame.com). That said, if you watch the Extended Trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b9IGV_H28g) after 3:00, Bryan Ekman will tell you that what they are doing is a MMORPG without NPCs cause the players do everything.

This seems too shitty to be true.


It's PGI. You KNOW it'll be a shitty clusterfuck of half-promised, never-delivered features and imbalanced fuckery.

EDIT: Also, an MMO DID have no NPC's (sort of) - Asheron's Call 2. It sucked monkey ass.

So far, 61 people have pledged, for a whopping total of 5k $  :why_so_serious:


EDIT: PGI HOLDS THE LICENSE FOR WING COMMANDER! (https://transversegame.com/community/discussion/151/transmission-from-the-creative-director) (but chose not to use it)  :awesome_for_real:

Quote from: Bryan Ekman
I wanted to take a moment to address a few important topics floating around the Fringe.

We do indeed currently hold the license of Wing Commander.  We first contacted EA about the WC brand in the spring of 2012, long before the initial announcement of products like Star Citizen.  We approached EA because we had a deep love for the space combat genre and Wing Commander was right there alongside MechWarrior as our most beloved franchises we grew up with.  In short at the time we thought we were going to be the ones taking that big initial risk to try and bring space shooters back. 

Over the course of the next 18 months a significant amount changed –  Star Citizen was announced, and by Late 2013 we found ourselves in possession of an exclusive license to Wing Commander and assembling a small team to craft a new experience.  We spent six months developing, designing, and working on a marketing video with help from outsourcing partners.  As we approached our reveal date, there was a moment of pause when we started to reflect on the brand, and design concepts.  We reached a pivotal moment when some of our best design ideas were being pushed to the side as they just didn’t fit within the constraints of a WC game.

We looked carefully at what our WCO product was, looked at other competing products, and decided that we needed to move away from the Wing Commander universe.  It was a tough choice, as we have a deep love and respect for the brand. 

It became clear that our very best and original game idea was contained within all of the concepts that were pushed aside for our WC product. The concept for Transverse was born from a single thought, and inspired by all those unused ideas.  In the end we realized we should be making our best idea and in doing so we found a corner of the spacesim genre that would make us stand out.  In doing so we would also be providing Star Citizen with the respect it deserves and what it represents to their customers.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on September 10, 2014, 09:01:43 PM
Why don't they just sell the Wing Commander license to Star Citizen? It's not like those assholes don't have the money for it.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on September 12, 2014, 05:43:56 AM
Larian CEO Swen Vincke reflects on D:OS release, crunching, what comes next, Kickstarter, game design. A great read that encompasses a lot of topics (so it makes sense not to relegate it to the specific game thread) :

http://www.lar.net/2014/09/12/thoughts-after-releasing-divinityoriginal-sin-and-what-comes-next/

Opening:
Quote
Ok,  let’s do this thing. Lots of people have been asking me for numbers and thoughts on the release of Divinity: Original Sin, so here are a few.

Divinity:Original Sin did pretty well. At the time of this writing its Metacritic critic rating is at 87%, it’s user rating at 89% and it’s been at the top of the Steam charts for most of the summer, occupying the nr. 1 spot for around a month.

It has sold well over half a million units by now– mostly from Steam, with 10% from retail.  ”Break even” has been reached, our debts have been paid and we are now in the profitable zone. While not all of the money is for us as we had private investors on board, the game did sufficiently well for us to envision funding our next endeavors with it, meaning we’re pretty happy about its performance.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ezrast on September 16, 2014, 01:31:54 PM
Current Humble Bundle isn't awful. Gone Home; Papers, Please; Monaco; some other stuff.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on September 17, 2014, 04:17:24 AM
Bejeweled 3 is now free on Origin (stil at $4.99 on Steam). I would recommend it at its full price anyway (it's so much MORE fun and varied than those crappy "sagas" facebook games), but the "free" tag is a nice incentive if you're not against the Origin service.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on September 18, 2014, 07:02:29 AM
In a move that surprises no one, Double-Fine's Dwarf Fortress in space thing Spacebase DF-9 is unceremoniously being bumped from Early Access to 1.0 with a majority of the promised features not being there, and the game is presumably being mothballed.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 18, 2014, 01:01:51 PM
Tim & Co have no clue how to develop or create complex systems. They are awful.

In other news: http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/09/17/Exposed-the-secret-mailing-list-of-the-gaming-journalism-elite

lol

k

I met Kyle Orland in a Gamestop in Maryland a bit after joining Big Huge Games & starting f13. He's a total fucking tool and I don't even want to read the whole article, but I'm linking it to say: If this turns into a discussion about Zoe Quinn, I'm gonna start handing out bans. Let's keep the talking to what a total pack of goon morons exist within games journalism.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on September 18, 2014, 02:22:09 PM
This mailing list shit is real? These people are not journalists.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on September 18, 2014, 02:59:22 PM
In a move that surprises no one, Double-Fine's Dwarf Fortress in space thing Spacebase DF-9 is unceremoniously being bumped from Early Access to 1.0 with a majority of the promised features not being there, and the game is presumably being mothballed.

SHOCKING NEWS!

Has DF ever made mechanically solid game?

DF is basically just a scam developer at this point. Every thing they release relies on some sort of funding hoodwinking.

Edit: Orland is a tool. I followed him on Twitter for all of day before I had to unfollow him.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on September 18, 2014, 03:51:42 PM
Tim & Co have no clue how to develop or create complex systems. They are awful.

In other news: http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/09/17/Exposed-the-secret-mailing-list-of-the-gaming-journalism-elite

lol

k

I met Kyle Orland in a Gamestop in Maryland a bit after joining Big Huge Games & starting f13. He's a total fucking tool and I don't even want to read the whole article, but I'm linking it to say: If this turns into a discussion about Zoe Quinn, I'm gonna start handing out bans. Let's keep the talking to what a total pack of goon morons exist within games journalism.
Why aren't you on this list and providing us with juicy insider details silly drama and lulz?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 18, 2014, 05:04:38 PM
Because the "Intolerable Schmucks Google Group" just isn't something I wish to involve myself with.

In other news, I'm trying really, REALLY fucking hard not to buy a goddamn white PS4 w/ Destiny. The draw of that game may be too fucking much. Ugh.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on September 18, 2014, 05:10:09 PM
Tim & Co have no clue how to develop or create complex systems. They are awful.

In other news: http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/09/17/Exposed-the-secret-mailing-list-of-the-gaming-journalism-elite

lol

k

I met Kyle Orland in a Gamestop in Maryland a bit after joining Big Huge Games & starting f13. He's a total fucking tool and I don't even want to read the whole article, but I'm linking it to say: If this turns into a discussion about Zoe Quinn, I'm gonna start handing out bans. Let's keep the talking to what a total pack of goon morons exist within games journalism.

 :awesome_for_real: :awesome_for_real: :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on September 18, 2014, 05:11:43 PM
Because the "Intolerable Schmucks Google Group" just isn't something I wish to involve myself with.

In other news, I'm trying really, REALLY fucking hard not to buy a goddamn white PS4 w/ Destiny. The draw of that game may be too fucking much. Ugh.

I would have already bought it if not for my sausage fingers making playing FPS with a game pad almost impossible.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 18, 2014, 05:25:18 PM
Yea, there are no fucking words for how much I hate thumbsticks. Maybe I'll just play Fallout New Vegas to completion for the first time.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on September 18, 2014, 06:15:18 PM
Tim & Co have no clue how to develop or create complex systems. They are awful.

In other news: http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/09/17/Exposed-the-secret-mailing-list-of-the-gaming-journalism-elite

lol

k

I met Kyle Orland in a Gamestop in Maryland a bit after joining Big Huge Games & starting f13. He's a total fucking tool and I don't even want to read the whole article, but I'm linking it to say: If this turns into a discussion about Zoe Quinn, I'm gonna start handing out bans. Let's keep the talking to what a total pack of goon morons exist within games journalism.

Some more emails.
https://archive.today/JFoxJ


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 18, 2014, 06:19:07 PM
Man, look at that Rogue's Gallery of douches.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 18, 2014, 06:39:24 PM
In other news, I'm trying really, REALLY fucking hard not to buy a goddamn white PS4 w/ Destiny. The draw of that game may be too fucking much. Ugh.
The "white" Destiny PS4 is actually a light grey, if that matters to you.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 18, 2014, 07:25:03 PM
It doesn't. It just matters that it comes with Destiny.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on September 18, 2014, 07:40:13 PM
You're shaking my faith in humanity.  Can you go back to shitting on Double Fine?

Bloodborne.  That might be worth having one.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on September 18, 2014, 07:50:57 PM
Because the "Intolerable Schmucks Google Group" just isn't something I wish to involve myself with.

In other news, I'm trying really, REALLY fucking hard not to buy a goddamn white PS4 w/ Destiny. The draw of that game may be too fucking much. Ugh.
I bought one, but I'm really awful at thumbsticks. Debating either dropping the game or buying that kb+m adapter thing someone linked in the Destiny thread.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on September 18, 2014, 08:03:52 PM
I am all thumbsticks, all the time.  I'm hoping I'll be sick of Destiny by the time I can afford a PS4 so I don't have to buy the white one.  Are the controllers white, too?  oooo.  I'm still torn about whether to get the new Borderlands for the 360 or wait... it'll be AGES after October if I wait.  I'll be the last one to play.   :ye_gods: 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 18, 2014, 08:04:45 PM
You're shaking my faith in humanity.  Can you go back to shitting on Double Fine?

Bloodborne.  That might be worth having one.
Bloodborne is what is actually driving this Destiny thing. I know I'd rather play Destiny when other people are still playing, and I'm GOING to own a PS4 for Bloodborne, so why not now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 18, 2014, 08:04:58 PM
Because the "Intolerable Schmucks Google Group" just isn't something I wish to involve myself with.

In other news, I'm trying really, REALLY fucking hard not to buy a goddamn white PS4 w/ Destiny. The draw of that game may be too fucking much. Ugh.
I bought one, but I'm really awful at thumbsticks. Debating either dropping the game or buying that kb+m adapter thing someone linked in the Destiny thread.
THERE'S A KEYBOARD/MOUSE ADAPTER?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on September 18, 2014, 08:08:40 PM
Wait.  I thought you could just plug the stuff into the USB port or use a Bluetooth thingymajiggies. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on September 18, 2014, 08:09:54 PM
I wonder if people like Ben Kuchera realize that when they call making a forum thread "harassment" all it does is tell people to roll their eyes at claims of harassment. Ben Kuchera is the sort of preachy scold that should exist only as parody. "I'm so disappointed that you won't immediately delete a thread on your forums for no reason other than that I don't like it, even though it's not against your own TOS."

greg.tito comes off looking pretty good there.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 18, 2014, 08:22:06 PM
I am all thumbsticks, all the time.  I'm hoping I'll be sick of Destiny by the time I can afford a PS4 so I don't have to buy the white one.  Are the controllers white, too?  oooo.  I'm still torn about whether to get the new Borderlands for the 360 or wait... it'll be AGES after October if I wait.  I'll be the last one to play.   :ye_gods: 
The bundled controller is two-tone: light grey (same as console) on the top part of the shell and slightly darker grey for the bottom half.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 18, 2014, 08:24:45 PM
Because the "Intolerable Schmucks Google Group" just isn't something I wish to involve myself with.

In other news, I'm trying really, REALLY fucking hard not to buy a goddamn white PS4 w/ Destiny. The draw of that game may be too fucking much. Ugh.
I bought one, but I'm really awful at thumbsticks. Debating either dropping the game or buying that kb+m adapter thing someone linked in the Destiny thread.
THERE'S A KEYBOARD/MOUSE ADAPTER?
Yes but it doesn't work like you think it does. The game does not support mouse input. Instead the dongle translates mouse movements into roughly equivalent joystick movements based on hand tuned zone and acceleration settings.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 18, 2014, 08:25:22 PM
ew fuck that


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 18, 2014, 08:34:19 PM
You also need a PC hooked up for the mouse and keyboard input part of things. You can read the threads on this forum to get a sense of the work involved.

http://controllermax.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=243


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on September 18, 2014, 10:09:45 PM
ew fuck that

That's right, fuck that shit!  PC Master Race 4Life! :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 18, 2014, 10:48:54 PM
Yup!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on September 19, 2014, 01:41:18 AM
Kyle Orland is that Ars Technica guy, isn't he? It's nice when people go out of their way to confirm the opinion you already have about them. He's the guy of 'everything is alright with Mass Effect 3 and if you think differently you are stupid and not as versed in hard sci-fi as I am' and 'the XBox One is fine, Microsoft's strategy is perfect and people who complain are entitled assholes who don't get it, also resolution doesn't matter' fame. He is so blatantly pro industry and doesn't even try to hide his contempt for his audience, going so far as to call everyone an 'entitled ass' for having opinions and stuff.

I like #gamergate it is so overblown and shows just how massive the egos of everyone involved are. It's cute that they talk about forum posts and twitter as a way to 'signal boost' their opinions when they operate in a bubble inside a bubble and represent such a tiny ecosystem that even 90% of all people playing games still have heard nothing about gamergate or any of the people involved.

It's also nice that they basically confirm every stereotype and even accusation that those 'gamergate' guys are giving them. It's as if all of those info warriors and conspiracy theorists suddenly had proof that the NSA is really spying on everyone. Oh, wait...

To be fair the whole list of names is basically a list of every person that is responsible for 'game journalism' or indeed 'gaming' being the clusterfuck and haven of self entitled egomaniacs and assholes it is today.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on September 19, 2014, 05:00:16 AM
That email list thing is like a lineup of the most worthless people in gaming media. Like, you notice how no one from anywhere that actually matters is there?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on September 19, 2014, 06:15:47 AM
The two people who stood out to me as the biggest idiots were Kyle Orland and Ben Kuchera. The few voices of reason tried to talk those two chucklefucks down but didn't succeed. It is very clear to me a lot of these journalists despise their audience. Why keep doing what you are doing? Obviously the only part of the industry they like are the developers. I wonder why people think that journalists and devs have an incestuous relationship?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on September 19, 2014, 06:49:40 AM
It just puts a smile in my heart that nobody likes Ben Kuchera. Nobody.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on September 19, 2014, 07:25:16 AM
His parents might.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on September 19, 2014, 08:35:38 AM
I wonder if people like Ben Kuchera realize that when they call making a forum thread "harassment" all it does is tell people to roll their eyes at claims of harassment. Ben Kuchera is the sort of preachy scold that should exist only as parody. "I'm so disappointed that you won't immediately delete a thread on your forums for no reason other than that I don't like it, even though it's not against your own TOS."

greg.tito comes off looking pretty good there.

I've only read about a quarter of that thread, but I agree with you about greg.tito. The rest of them just look like dolts.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 19, 2014, 09:00:53 AM
His parents might.

Probably not. Ben is what you call a white kid when you don't want to come up with a name that has any meaningful history.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hutch on September 19, 2014, 09:34:52 AM
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1217291/Misc/Benjamin-Franklin.png)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 19, 2014, 10:48:12 AM
NO ONE NAMES THEIR KID AFTER BENJAMIN FRANKLIN.

Unless you're Nicolas Cage in National Treasure.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on September 19, 2014, 10:57:12 AM
His parents might.

Probably not. Ben is what you call a white kid when you don't want to come up with a name that has any meaningful history.

It's one of the Tribes of Israel and the biblical name for the favored son of the father. But I'm sure you have reason for hating the name.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on September 19, 2014, 11:37:36 AM
Regarding the thumbsticks, Destiny is easier for thumbstick-pussies than the other console FPS that I have played.  More interestingly, the autoaim bias appears to be related to the particular weapon you are using.  I'd say I'm 98% happy with it, with the 2% being when one enemy crosses in front of another and my gun decides to track that guy instead of the one I'm planning to shoot between the eyes.

When I say that Destiny has a tight shooting game, this is what I am talking about.  Give it a ten minute trial and you'll either agree with me, or you'll just need to never consider ever attempting to play any console shooter again.  In fact, I think Destiny has possibly ruined me for playing any other console shooters.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 19, 2014, 11:54:54 AM
His parents might.

Probably not. Ben is what you call a white kid when you don't want to come up with a name that has any meaningful history.
It's one of the Tribes of Israel and the biblical name for the favored son of the father. But I'm sure you have reason for hating the name.
I know the actual history of the name Ben, you infidel. As I am of the chosen people. Also confident Kuchera wasn't named Ben for that reason.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 19, 2014, 11:56:08 AM
When I say that Destiny has a tight shooting game, this is what I am talking about.  Give it a ten minute trial and you'll either agree with me, or you'll just need to never consider ever attempting to play any console shooter again.  In fact, I think Destiny has possibly ruined me for playing any other console shooters.
I think it's pretty safe to say most of us never had any plans to play a console shooter ever again.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on September 19, 2014, 12:07:43 PM
His parents might.

Probably not. Ben is what you call a white kid when you don't want to come up with a name that has any meaningful history.
It's one of the Tribes of Israel and the biblical name for the favored son of the father. But I'm sure you have reason for hating the name.
I know the actual history of the name Ben, you infidel. As I am of the chosen people. Also confident Kuchera wasn't named Ben for that reason.

I know you do. Which what made your comment about meaningful history  :uhrr:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on September 19, 2014, 01:16:26 PM
Ben literally means "son of", so yeah.  Pretty uncreative.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Teleku on September 19, 2014, 03:33:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRtyNkpS1i4


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 23, 2014, 11:23:43 AM
Titan cancellation news moved to its original thread:

http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=23307.0


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on September 25, 2014, 12:11:55 PM
Apparently the Assassin's Creed: Mordor game reviews for console come out tonight.  Usually it's somewhat promising when they allow reviews prior to launch.

I'm not pre ordering or anything, but it looks neat in concept if you watch some of the boss and rune videos. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on September 26, 2014, 06:24:43 AM
Videos look good.  Too good.  I'll let you know if I end up wasting money.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on September 26, 2014, 07:39:50 AM
Both major review outlets gave it fairly good reviews.  I might have to snag it, too.  I'm not really playing anything consistently right now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on September 26, 2014, 01:53:19 PM
http://www.clickerheroes.com/

Feel free to hate me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 26, 2014, 02:11:20 PM
I designed this exact game in 2007. Only the images were static. I even got an artist to make an entire pirate themed set of art for it.

No, I'm not kidding.

Edit: I should mention, Yoru can confirm this.

Edit 2: My game had constant loot and 1 hit 1 kill, but yea, this is effectively the same. Weird.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on September 26, 2014, 02:27:52 PM
It's more fun than Diablo to me.  :why_so_serious: Which is to say, not at all.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on September 26, 2014, 02:50:01 PM
More like Leaverunninginthebackgroundheroes.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 26, 2014, 02:56:56 PM
More like Leaverunninginthebackgroundheroes.
Yea, autopickup was a mistake.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maven on September 26, 2014, 03:25:40 PM
http://www.clickerheroes.com/

Feel free to hate me.

(http://i62.tinypic.com/2l7vk4.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on September 26, 2014, 03:35:07 PM
It also doesn't have the feeling of exponential acceleration. In fact the kill speed deteriorates as you play, ie. it gets more and more boring.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on September 26, 2014, 04:14:08 PM
Sorry for the sudden change of subject, but my current Steam queue (DAMN YOU STEAM) proposed this title:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/321410

Never heard of this...umm, simulation before, but I think it's well beyond any extreme wargaming neckbeard spreadsheet classification. Whoa (just look at the trailer, screenshots and any tutorial video on youtube).

"Ye gods" emoticon rating: out of scale.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 26, 2014, 04:16:59 PM
Yup that's the spiritual successor of Harpoon. It was mentioned in the KS thread:

http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=22073.msg1245213#msg1245213


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 26, 2014, 05:57:50 PM
that game is more neckbeard than any game before it


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on September 27, 2014, 12:34:35 AM
Harpoon was so cool when I was a kid. I didn't really know how to play, but watching my little fleet weather Soviet missile strikes was hella cool, with all the little animations and stuff. Also, you could use nukes in that game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shannow on September 27, 2014, 09:28:13 AM
that game is more neckbeard than any game before it

pfft, obviously you've never played  World in Flames  (http://www.matrixgames.com/products/296/details/World.In.Flames)

A game so neckbeardy it comes with fully hard cover colour manuals but no AI.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 27, 2014, 09:32:56 AM
Oh, I know about World in Flames.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on September 27, 2014, 10:52:34 AM
that game is more neckbeard than any game before it

pfft, obviously you've never played  World in Flames  (http://www.matrixgames.com/products/296/details/World.In.Flames)

A game so neckbeardy it comes with fully hard cover colour manuals but no AI.  :awesome_for_real:

Your neckbeard is lacking, we played the physical hex & counter version of that game 20 years ago.

 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shannow on September 27, 2014, 12:31:47 PM
Who says I didn't?  But do you take a year to play half a game over Cyberboard with players in 4 different time zones?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on September 27, 2014, 01:00:44 PM
I'm just neckbeardy, not insane.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shannow on September 27, 2014, 01:14:14 PM
Actually I'd say its the most sane way to play it. Especially if you've tried to play CWiF multiplayer.  :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Morat20 on September 27, 2014, 04:25:51 PM
Harpoon was so cool when I was a kid. I didn't really know how to play, but watching my little fleet weather Soviet missile strikes was hella cool, with all the little animations and stuff. Also, you could use nukes in that game.
Glad I'm not the only one that had it and was...not terribly sure what was going on. :)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: sigil on September 30, 2014, 06:35:58 PM
Just finished a four hour session of Shadow of Mordor. I'm sold. I'm also just a little shocked that there's something I can say I've never played anything like that before. Not the Arkham Creed/Assassin's Asylum combat That's good, but not new. The Nemesis system: can someone show me some prior art, because someone HAD to have done this before, right? .


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 30, 2014, 06:37:35 PM
Champions Online? :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: sigil on September 30, 2014, 06:54:16 PM
Heh,  not really the same thing. I was thinking something like a mafia styled game could have this, although this would be really nice to see in an Assassin's Creed.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: murdoc on October 01, 2014, 07:30:18 AM
Just finished a four hour session of Shadow of Mordor. I'm sold. I'm also just a little shocked that there's something I can say I've never played anything like that before. Not the Arkham Creed/Assassin's Asylum combat That's good, but not new. The Nemesis system: can someone show me some prior art, because someone HAD to have done this before, right? .

The Nemesis system is awesome and worth playing the game for. They did an amazing job with it, love getting taunted by a newly ranked up lieutenant that got a lucky crossbow shot into me while I was fighting one of the bigger Trolls.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 01, 2014, 08:23:42 AM
I'm hearing that it does what the videos claim, which is amazing.  Also, Monolith?  What the shit?  Perhaps Obsidian can make a good RPG, now that this precedent is set.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on October 01, 2014, 10:30:08 AM
Has anyone looked at Endless Legend yet?  I got an email and the trailer looks purdy.  It's HERE (http://g2g.amplitude-studios.com/Games/Endless-Legend). 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on October 01, 2014, 10:39:11 AM
Has anyone looked at Endless Legend yet?  I got an email and the trailer looks purdy.  It's HERE (http://g2g.amplitude-studios.com/Games/Endless-Legend). 

I just got it for free with my IGN Prime subscription (and I'm not paying for it anymore, like I wrote in another thread, because of some strange database fuckup on IGN part). Perks!!  :drill:  :awesome_for_real:

And yeah, it looks quite good: the only thing I read is that the AI is very passive and not really put you under pressure, but that might change in a patch.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on October 01, 2014, 11:45:01 AM
I'm hearing that it does what the videos claim, which is amazing.  Also, Monolith?  What the shit?  Perhaps Obsidian can make a good RPG, now that this precedent is set.
You think that's shocking check out this game from Cyanide:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ciuwygibet8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49Vw1cYTOeQ


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on October 01, 2014, 12:00:00 PM
You know they are just going to fuck it up with some sticky terrain bit that you will accidentally click on 500 times causing you to die.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 01, 2014, 12:16:04 PM
You think that's shocking check out this game from Cyanide:

What the fuck?  That can't be real.  Thief: The Dark Goblin?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on October 01, 2014, 07:20:46 PM
I'm down for that for sure.  Looks fun.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 01, 2014, 07:24:26 PM
I'm hearing that it does what the videos claim, which is amazing.  Also, Monolith?  What the shit?  Perhaps Obsidian can make a good RPG, now that this precedent is set.
You think that's shocking check out this game from Cyanide:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ciuwygibet8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49Vw1cYTOeQ


I have that sitting on my harddrive right now. Review copy. Haven't booted it up. Donation drive more important.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on October 02, 2014, 02:13:37 PM
So, new 4X game dropped on to Early Access today from Stardock, Sorcerer King, anyone heard anything about this?

http://store.steampowered.com/app/241990/

Really hesitant with this one, on the one hand, Stardock isn't a name I associate with quality (the graphics even look like Fallen Enchantress a bit).  On the other hand, they still employ Kael, don't they?  Is he anywhere near this, or what's he even doing these days?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 02, 2014, 02:33:32 PM
It's Stardock.

Fuck'em and fuck Brad. Even if he's entertainment for those that love schadenfreude.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on October 11, 2014, 04:54:24 PM
Disney has decided to get off their duff and re-release a bunch of titles they helped develop and/or publish.

21+ games, to include Pure, Epic Mickey, and Tron 2.0.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on October 11, 2014, 05:36:31 PM
So, new 4X game dropped on to Early Access today from Stardock, Sorcerer King, anyone heard anything about this?

http://store.steampowered.com/app/241990/

Really hesitant with this one, on the one hand, Stardock isn't a name I associate with quality (the graphics even look like Fallen Enchantress a bit).  On the other hand, they still employ Kael, don't they?  Is he anywhere near this, or what's he even doing these days?

All you need to know is contained in the 'most helpful' negative review.

Quote
[Major Caveat: In Brad/Frogboy/Draginol's words I am a 'Grognard'. Not some French word for troll but it means one of the 'old guard' of gamer who cares about game mechanics more than presentation. Maybe he's right. Maybe I am quibbling over the mechanics and not enjoying the art. Maybe strategy gamers are a vocal minority. So, to blunt the 'insulting harshness' of the review I'll start with, as perhaps I should have done before: the plus-points.]

When the best defense Brad has is, "Why do you care about mechanics" you can put the game on the "fuck off" list.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on October 12, 2014, 06:11:37 AM
Driveclub, not my sort of game. But the realism of this gif is quite impressive:

(http://gifyu.com/images/DC9.gif)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on October 16, 2014, 09:54:12 AM
Dreadnought. Looks like MechWarrior Online with flying battleships, but there's nothing wrong with that if they can execute it properly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsJ71jVp3JU


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goreschach on October 16, 2014, 10:16:01 AM
Dreadnought. Looks like MechWarrior Online with flying battleships, but there's nothing wrong with that if they can execute it properly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsJ71jVp3JU

Seems way too fast paced to compare to MW.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 16, 2014, 10:23:28 PM
Literally did not have the patience to read through the tutorial of Sunless Sea. I'm an awful gamer.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: murdoc on October 17, 2014, 02:30:52 PM
So this is a game that is coming

Hatred (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrX7G-1xPLs[/url)

As much as I want to get all up in arms over this, to be honest it's what most of my sandbox games devolve into.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on October 17, 2014, 02:46:02 PM
It's developed by Neo Nazis.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on October 17, 2014, 03:06:43 PM
It's Postal sans the whimsy. Who gives a shit.

In indie darling Hotline Miami you brutalize pixel dudes like 10 times worse than anything in that video.

"B-b-b-but they're like mobsters and shit!"

Yeah, except for uh, the police station full of officers you kill too.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 17, 2014, 05:23:05 PM
Pre-Zoe Quinn, this is just a Hotline Miami ripoff for carebears.

You heard me right - carebears.

Edit: Before anyone flips their shit about that comment, I'm divorcing it from the modern societal bullshit that killing sprees are bad. Obviously they're fucking bad, it's not something that actually needs to be said. Viewing it as a game (and it's most certainly allowed to exist), Hotline Miami was this same sort of killing spree shit, except in that game if you didn't kill the enemy they sure as shit would kill you. In this game I'm pretty sure you're just literally on a killing spree. So, bad Dead Rising mixed with bad Hotline Miami mixed with Fat Brandon Lee, playing Fat Crow.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 17, 2014, 05:29:51 PM
It's developed by Neo Nazis.

Who cares? Neo Nazis are allowed to make terrible games too. Looks better than Candy Crush Saga.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on October 18, 2014, 01:10:04 AM
The best or worst thing about that game is all the people who literally cheer at exploding heads in any number of other games, but here they suddenly find it objectionable.

edit: for context, I work at a public library. After the decision to start lending out games, there's been talks about banning GTAV (not gonna happen), and some do not want to add M rated games to their respective libraries' collection. If I were to go telling them how GTA is ok and Hatred not ok, I'd look like a complete crazy person.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on October 18, 2014, 08:09:59 AM
Doesn't look any worse than GTA; they're just embracing the way a lot of people play it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on October 18, 2014, 08:13:00 AM
Well, I don't mind violent games (or films, or tv shows, etc) but I like my games to have a point.  Or a plot.  Or maybe just awesome loot.   Something.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on October 18, 2014, 09:18:22 AM
It's developed by Neo Nazis.

Who cares? Neo Nazis are allowed to make terrible games too. Looks better than Candy Crush Saga.

People are allowed to do all kinds of terrible (not just in terms of quality) things.  The fact that it is legal doesn't make it not terrible or make it immune to criticism, even moral criticism.  

My problem with the discussion around games lately is that any criticism of a game gets responded to with "Well they are ALLOWED to make it any way they want!" as if that is some kind of trump card.  I don't give a shit about this particular game, I'm just so sick of this kind of argument.  It's the gaming equivalent of your idiot racist uncle saying "It's a free country" when you call him out for being racist. It's a lazy argument and doesn't even address the concerns being raised to begin with.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nightblade on October 18, 2014, 10:37:37 AM
It's developed by Neo Nazis.

Who cares? Neo Nazis are allowed to make terrible games too. Looks better than Candy Crush Saga.

People are allowed to do all kinds of terrible (not just in terms of quality) things.  The fact that it is legal doesn't make it not terrible or make it immune to criticism, even moral criticism.  

My problem with the discussion around games lately is that any criticism of a game gets responded to with "Well they are ALLOWED to make it any way they want!" as if that is some kind of trump card.  I don't give a shit about this particular game, I'm just so sick of this kind of argument.  It's the gaming equivalent of your idiot racist uncle saying "It's a free country" when you call him out for being racist. It's a lazy argument and doesn't even address the concerns being raised to begin with.

It's a game depicting violence for what it actually is, horrifying and brutal. There's nothing wrong with just depicting amoral and disgusting acts.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on October 18, 2014, 10:50:26 AM
I'm pretty tired of moral criticism of video games.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on October 18, 2014, 11:07:12 AM
I'm pretty tired of moral criticism of video games.

I'm pretty tired of people thinking any media gets a free pass from criticism.  It doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't play it or enjoy it.  It doesn't mean it's the worst thing in the world.  It just means that people need to put on their big boy pants and realize the media they like are subject to criticism just the way film or literature is.  Games don't get a magical free pass.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nightblade on October 18, 2014, 11:14:32 AM
I'm pretty tired of moral criticism of video games.

I'm pretty tired of people thinking any media gets a free pass from criticism.  It doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't play it or enjoy it.  It doesn't mean it's the worst thing in the world.  It just means that people need to put on their big boy pants and realize the media they like are subject to criticism just the way film or literature is.  Games don't get a magical free pass.

Since this has been a point of discussion since the age of Mortal Kombat, I really doubt anyone thinks that "games get a magical free pass".


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on October 18, 2014, 11:47:33 AM
I'm pretty tired of moral criticism of video games.

I'm pretty tired of people thinking any media gets a free pass from criticism.  It doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't play it or enjoy it.  It doesn't mean it's the worst thing in the world.  It just means that people need to put on their big boy pants and realize the media they like are subject to criticism just the way film or literature is.  Games don't get a magical free pass.
This attitude is what gets us banned books lists. Fuck that. Criticize media based on merit, not the fact that you think the subject matter is icky.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on October 18, 2014, 11:59:34 AM
This attitude is what gets us banned books lists. Fuck that. Criticize media based on merit, not the fact that you think the subject matter is icky.

What the fuck are you talking about? Seriously.  Banned books?

Have you ever taken a literature class? Read anything by a literary scholar? Do you think the kind of criticism that comes out of kind of thing is in the business of banning books?  


"Because the subject matter is icky?" Jesus fucking christ, just set the straw man on fire and be done with it. 

Criticism in this context does not mean "I don't like it."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on October 18, 2014, 12:11:30 PM
So criticizing a game that isn't even out yet, based on the fact that developers are (allegedly?) Neo Nazis is valid, intellectual criticism?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on October 18, 2014, 12:20:11 PM
So criticizing a game that isn't even out yet, based on the fact that developers are (allegedly?) Neo Nazis is valid, intellectual criticism?

Rendakor.  Step back for two seconds and read what I said.  I specifically responded to Schild's post because it is the kind of thing I see ALL THE TIME to dismiss valid criticism.  I don't give a shit about this game. I didn't watch the video.  I'll probably forget the game exists after this conversation ends.  It's about the fact that apparently even bringing up the fact that a game might be problematic in some way gets you shouted down - exactly as you've done here I hasten to add.  Like I'm some kind of fascist trying to bank books.  Please.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on October 18, 2014, 12:22:49 PM
Except you didn't even criticize the game for anything about the game itself. I don't care if a game dev literally eats babies; if the game is fun, I'll play it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on October 18, 2014, 12:29:56 PM
Except you didn't even criticize the game for anything about the game itself. I don't care if a game dev literally eats babies; if the game is fun, I'll play it.

First of all, I didn't criticize the game AT ALL.  Because I don't give a fuck about the game. This was about the kind of argument I've seen against criticism of games in general.  It isn't incidental that schild mentioned Quinn in his first post about it, I suspect.

Second of all, I didn't mention the devs at all.  At any point. In any of my posts.

Finally - to use film instead - I'll watch a movie if I like the movie.  Which has absolutely dick all to do with my ability to be critical of it.  Do you not understand what I'm saying?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on October 18, 2014, 12:36:19 PM
koro: Game is made by Neo Nazis
schild: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You: WHARRGARBL

Your post was in reply to a dismissal of a statement about the devs. If it's not "Bad people shouldn't make video games" I'm not sure what your point is.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on October 18, 2014, 12:48:20 PM
If it's not "Bad people shouldn't make video games" I'm not sure what your point is.

Then you literally have the reading comprehension of a 5 year old.  

My post was in reply to two posts that schild made, first of all but I didn't quote both of them because it's clunky as fuck.  Then, the point I made was that simply being "allowed" to do something - which I agree with, they should be allowed to make this game with whatever shitty content they want - doesn't allow you to sidestep criticism of that content.  It doesn't matter if it's Neo Nazis making this or if it's a well respected AAA developer.  And that seemed to be exactly what schild was suggesting - "well fuck it it's legal for them to make the game so any further discussion of it is pointless." 

If it was a one of comment I probably wouldn't care.  But lately I've been seeing this kind of point being made all the time - especially by gamers - as if it is some trump card to the criticism of video games. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on October 18, 2014, 12:49:44 PM
I know the perfect game for you guys to work out your tension.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on October 18, 2014, 01:31:15 PM
Ever, Jane.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 18, 2014, 04:20:42 PM
Jesus christ, what happened in here? Will edit this post after I read it.

Edit:
It's developed by Neo Nazis.

Who cares? Neo Nazis are allowed to make terrible games too. Looks better than Candy Crush Saga.

People are allowed to do all kinds of terrible (not just in terms of quality) things.  The fact that it is legal doesn't make it not terrible or make it immune to criticism, even moral criticism.  

My problem with the discussion around games lately is that any criticism of a game gets responded to with "Well they are ALLOWED to make it any way they want!" as if that is some kind of trump card.  I don't give a shit about this particular game, I'm just so sick of this kind of argument.  It's the gaming equivalent of your idiot racist uncle saying "It's a free country" when you call him out for being racist. It's a lazy argument and doesn't even address the concerns being raised to begin with.

Alright, so this seems to be the main post that kicked this shit off. Dude, no one is hand-waving away criticism with THEY'RE ALLOWED TO, etc. These are neo-nazis (is this proven?) making a game about going on a killing spree. It's so fucking OBVIOUS that it's a moral minefield that its not even worth bringing it up. Yup, it's a killing simulator made by dickbags. It's so on the face stupid and morally reprehensible that even criticizing them is a waste of breath. Raising concerns about it is even goofy. It's a fucking killing simulator. Even sociopaths know what's wrong with it. The clinically insane can probably see the awfulness here ("why fake kill when you can REAL KILL?" [I don't know how to think like the criminally insane]).

Anyway, going out of your way to criticize a killing simulator on a moral or philosophical level is wasted neurons. Clearly it's shitty and in poor taste AND they're also allowed to make it - and I am not one to stop people or even imply that they shouldn't make whatever the hell they want.

Edit 2: Ok, just saw your clarification post (I think you can see how Rendakor may have gotten confused given my response above):

Quote
My post was in reply to two posts that schild made, first of all but I didn't quote both of them because it's clunky as fuck.  Then, the point I made was that simply being "allowed" to do something - which I agree with, they should be allowed to make this game with whatever shitty content they want - doesn't allow you to sidestep criticism of that content.  It doesn't matter if it's Neo Nazis making this or if it's a well respected AAA developer.  And that seemed to be exactly what schild was suggesting - "well fuck it it's legal for them to make the game so any further discussion of it is pointless."  

No one is saying they get to sidestep criticism. But I'll flat out say that criticizing it, in any sense of the word, is a big 'ol waste of time. Yes, people can be critical of anything - I sure as shit am - but in this case, why bother? There's intelligent examples of criticism of truely grotesque shit (see papers on Salò: 120 Days of Sodom or A Serbian Film for example). I simply don't think there's intelligent criticism to be made here.

More than anything though, I wanted to kill the possibility for anyone to turn it into a discussion of feminism. Because somebody fucking will, and they'll be wrong to do so.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 18, 2014, 04:50:17 PM
I don't think the people making this are Neo-Nazis. Wherever that came from, I'm pretty sure someone either confused it with Ethnic Cleansing (which was made by Neo-Nazis/White Supremacists). I think what we're dealing with here is merely some polish people that really like heavy metal and eyeliner.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatred_%28video_game%29


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goreschach on October 18, 2014, 05:24:56 PM
What I don't get is why nobody is criticizing it for being so ridiculous. The video comes off like a stealth parody. At first, I thought that was what they were going for. It's basically the crow doing the batman voice going we're all going to DIEEEE. It would be hilarious if didn't seem that they expect us to actually take it seriously. As it stands, watching the video is just kindof embarrassing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on October 18, 2014, 05:32:26 PM
It looks like GTA with the edginess dialed up to 11, and without the thin veneer of story that everyone just ignores anyway.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nightblade on October 18, 2014, 05:39:13 PM
What I don't get is why nobody is criticizing it for being so ridiculous. The video comes off like a stealth parody. At first, I thought that was what they were going for. It's basically the crow doing the batman voice going we're all going to DIEEEE. It would be hilarious if didn't seem that they expect us to actually take it seriously. As it stands, watching the video is just kindof embarrassing.

The introduction dialog makes had my eyes rolling, yeah.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maven on October 18, 2014, 08:10:00 PM
I saw this, thought it worth sharing. Another #GamerGate controversy from Angry Gamer where Allistar Pinoff, a former Destructoid writer, is essentially blacklisted from industry work (http://blogjob.com/oneangrygamer/2014/10/gamergate-destructoid-corruption-and-ruined-careers/).

Maybe everything to do with gaming journalism and its lack of maturity and standards is something for a younger crowd to deal with. They won't do it though. Passion for gaming seems to have a blinding effect on most to deal with more serious issues and concerns and can give way to poor emotional regulation. It's a technological bubble of the first world. Some of those e-mails were the height of inappropriate conduct from an employer, but Pinstar and Gonzalez seemed to share a personal relationship.

The EiC list gives the impression that all the sites and their higher-up employees are having some form of communication with each other. That seems to be a bad thing (corrupt?) when it comes to advising on dealings with employees or contractors -- courting groupthink judgments from uninvolved parties isn't what I'd call professionalism. Then again, maybe because these people *lack* business education that they have such trouble when dealing with employees and HR situations? It's sort of like Chris Roberts' Star Citizen to an extent, where to me they've gone into questionable ethical territory.

When I first went into the games industry, there was a big deal made about how small the community is. Networking was crucial. So was not doing anything to jack up your career because your co-worker might be your boss one day. For some reason that makes me think of that one invite-only party I attended at PAX where I knew no one, but which involved a standing-room only bar with female dancers and young, hip developers getting drunk. I felt like everyone's trying to be the cool kids, the in-group, some sort of social power game under everything.

And I sit here thinking it would have been nice to be in one of those groups.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maven on October 18, 2014, 08:25:19 PM
There is something infuriating about seeing the n-th vblog from either a guy too ugly to show his face and a self-deemed expert on the subject, a woman whose more painting than person to attract hits for her opinions, or some other nit influencing a mob audience who uncritically soaks up everything they have to say and goes on the internet to rampage against the system. But isn't sitting behind your screen the height of ineffectiveness, or is it because everyone does everything online that shaming and public humiliation are the only weapons available for someone to exert an influence.

Yes, I'm generalizing, am emotional, and being unfair. Be charitable for a moment. I can't put into words this aggravation about how all this internet communication and tech culture is so detached from ... reality? I don't know! How many different voices and feeds are out there? How can you get past so much noise when everyone wants to throw their 2 cents on something they know nothing about but gives them a soapbox to hash out their principles and "This is what I would have done!"?

What the fuck is social justice anyway? It seems to be some passive-aggressive political system.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on October 19, 2014, 09:14:22 PM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on October 19, 2014, 09:52:10 PM
The best or worst thing about that game is all the people who literally cheer at exploding heads in any number of other games, but here they suddenly find it objectionable.

edit: for context, I work at a public library. After the decision to start lending out games, there's been talks about banning GTAV (not gonna happen), and some do not want to add M rated games to their respective libraries' collection. If I were to go telling them how GTA is ok and Hatred not ok, I'd look like a complete crazy person.


Ufff....tough to form an opinion here. For me it would be too far. As for why shooter X is ok but this not, uhmm....I think motivation (of being an amok runner) together with the brutal way the killing is shown (as opposed to nuking a town, for example).

It's hard not be hypocritical here, but on the other side I would be lying if I'd say "I am okay with that".


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on October 19, 2014, 10:26:34 PM
The best or worst thing about that game is all the people who literally cheer at exploding heads in any number of other games, but here they suddenly find it objectionable.

edit: for context, I work at a public library. After the decision to start lending out games, there's been talks about banning GTAV (not gonna happen), and some do not want to add M rated games to their respective libraries' collection. If I were to go telling them how GTA is ok and Hatred not ok, I'd look like a complete crazy person.


Ufff....tough to form an opinion here. For me it would be too far. As for why shooter X is ok but this not, uhmm....I think motivation (of being an amok runner) together with the brutal way the killing is shown (as opposed to nuking a town, for example).

It's hard not be hypocritical here, but on the other side I would be lying if I'd say "I am okay with that".

I just go with personal preference. Video games in general are full of gratuitous violence bordering on fetishism, and while it's all just a game, it's still a bit fucked up. The key I feel is to not start making excuses for turning on bloody mess every time you play Fallout. Just accept that we all have questionable taste in some regards.

Where it really gets tough is when the depiction of violence gets political (in game). While I wouldn't play Hatred for a multitude of reasons, I don't feel it goes past a juvenile attempt to shock people.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on October 19, 2014, 10:50:42 PM
While I wouldn't play Hatred for a multitude of reasons, I don't feel it goes past a juvenile attempt to shock people.

I'd agree with that assessment.

Plus, we know since 1994 that "indexing" doesn't work.  :wink:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 20, 2014, 10:12:48 AM
It's funny because who gives a fuck.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 20, 2014, 10:16:13 AM
Hm. I'll go one step further and say I wish there as many varied and creative sexual/erotic video games as there are violent ones, but then something something about the phallic military-industrial patriarchal society stemming from a patriarchal phallic religious cult and repression and this is why I don't talk to people about things because why is everyone fucking mental.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on October 20, 2014, 11:12:57 AM
Boobs in video games on a regular basis would be the thing to finally bring down the wrath of US legislation.  Boobs AND intercourse? We're talking McCarthy hearings level crap.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on October 20, 2014, 12:04:10 PM
Hm. I'll go one step further and say I wish there as many varied and creative sexual/erotic video games as there are violent ones
There are but they are all in Japanese.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 20, 2014, 12:41:03 PM
Ooooh, mokuzai no hi-ge-san...!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 20, 2014, 12:42:02 PM
Hm. I'll go one step further and say I wish there as many varied and creative sexual/erotic video games as there are violent ones
There are but they are all in Japanese.
I keep trying to get rk47 to radicalthon Divi-Dead. It's all of the things Sky is requesting and nearly 20 years old.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 20, 2014, 12:46:20 PM
Ok, japanasia doesn't count.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on October 20, 2014, 03:31:02 PM
Also those mostly aren't games so much as "visual novels".  Not that there's anything inherently wrong with that, but I think that has more to do with why those "don't count" than the fact that they're in Japanese.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on October 20, 2014, 04:06:19 PM
IOW, Boobs transcend all languages.   :drill:

As do tentacles.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on October 20, 2014, 11:11:51 PM
I could post a lot of really ero Japanese games that aren't VNs, if you like.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 21, 2014, 01:25:06 PM
I don't remember where mostly I was talking about PCSX2, but I downloaded version 1.2.1 and verified that it basically works out of the box with the minor hangup that it doesn't recognize savestates from v1.0.0.  I haven't been able to determine if it is faster, but a few minutes in Atelier Iris 3 didn't give the very tiny BUZZ sound and stutter I had when entering menus.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 22, 2014, 10:22:20 AM
Dreamfall Chapters just came out. I didn't even know it was still actively being worked on. I shall NOT GIVE Ragnar my 29.99 American Dollars. He may have my 10 Christmas Bucks.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 22, 2014, 10:30:59 AM
Episodic game from Funcom.  What could go wrong?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on October 28, 2014, 08:27:59 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/cH9O5mk.jpg)

Lol, could you possibly get any more owned. Bad writer convinces his wife to have an "open marriage", she gets fucked on the side and he can't get any, complains on twitter about it, suddenly decides he's bi and regrets "not having touched some wangs earlier in life", still can't get any, gets divorced.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 28, 2014, 08:40:10 PM
What does this shit have to do with gaming?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: lamaros on October 28, 2014, 08:40:48 PM
That was going to be my question...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on October 28, 2014, 08:49:03 PM
Don't know who that is, don't care enough to google.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on October 28, 2014, 08:51:16 PM
What does this shit have to do with gaming?
Lead writer for Borderlands.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 28, 2014, 09:05:33 PM
Oh, who gives a fuck?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on October 28, 2014, 09:05:53 PM
Oh, who gives a fuck?
I do, because it's funny.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 28, 2014, 09:07:33 PM
Oh, who gives a fuck?
I do, because it's funny.
Well, if reporting it means it's about ethics in gaming journalism, job well done.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on October 28, 2014, 09:10:09 PM
 :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goreschach on October 28, 2014, 09:17:53 PM
I'm still trying to figure out why borderlands needed a writer.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 28, 2014, 09:21:06 PM
I'm still trying to figure out why borderlands needed a writer.

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Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on October 28, 2014, 10:59:12 PM
I'm still trying to figure out why borderlands needed a writer.
Borderlands 2 was hilarious, and is my template for how to tell story right in an action game. Short cut scenes used fairly rarely, and otherwise dialog delivered while you're still playing. I am capable of listening while shooting things; if you take away my ability to shoot things I'm more likely to skip your cutscene, alt tab, or play with my cellphone until it is over. Did I mention hilarious? Assault on Dragon Keep was probably the most I've laughed at a video game since the original Portal.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 29, 2014, 06:45:38 AM
I'm still trying to figure out why borderlands needed a writer.

You are now on the "do not trust opinion" list.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on October 29, 2014, 08:04:51 AM
I don't think I've ever come even close to laughing at a video game, in a good way.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on October 29, 2014, 08:51:11 AM
Have you played Assault on Dragon Keep?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on October 29, 2014, 12:30:09 PM
I don't think I've ever come even close to laughing at a video game, in a good way.

You must not have played Portal 2. CAVE JOHNSON!!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Teleku on October 29, 2014, 12:40:29 PM
The story is what kept pushing me through borderlands 2.  I mean, I enjoyed it enough, but the combat can get a bit samey and grindy.  But I could not stop playing it because I just wanted more of the story, more of the characters, more of the laughs.  It's one of the most awesome games ever (for me) entirely because of the writing and voice acting.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 29, 2014, 12:42:29 PM
I don't think I've ever come even close to laughing at a video game, in a good way.
You must not have played Portal 2. CAVE JOHNSON!!
Less consistently funny than Portal 1. Portal 1 had far less dialogue, but what it had was more subtle, more clever, and straight up funnier.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on October 29, 2014, 12:53:48 PM
I don't think I've ever come even close to laughing at a video game, in a good way.
You must not have played Portal 2. CAVE JOHNSON!!
Less consistently funny than Portal 1. Portal 1 had far less dialogue, but what it had was more subtle, more clever, and straight up funnier.
Agreed.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 29, 2014, 01:08:40 PM
I think the last game I laughed out loud at was The Stanley Parable.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on October 29, 2014, 02:30:58 PM
While I loved me some Portal 1, and it was a better game, I still laughed out loud multiple times at Cave Johnson. He made the 2nd game for me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Quinton on October 29, 2014, 07:23:17 PM
Yeah, Portal 2 had plenty of seriously funny moments.  I think it suffered from being a sequel (hard to replicate that first play through Portal experience) and being a bit on the long side (there were places where it dragged a bit).  Still enjoyed it a bunch.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on November 01, 2014, 05:17:24 AM
I've been playing around with the alpha of Evolve this weekend and I must say that it's pretty cool, although I totally fail to see the staying power of such a game. Feels more like a party game than anything else, and while I can easily imagine a few fun nights with friends over LAN or TeamSpeak, I can't see myself loggin in after a week or so for some random 4v1 PvP matches. Left 4 Dead, at least to me, had a sense of progression through the episodes/story, and in the map itself (go from point A to B, survive). Unless they do something similar here, which is harder considering the whole thing is about 4 hunters and 1 monster in an arena-like map, I really wonder if such a game was a good idea to begin with.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on November 01, 2014, 05:24:42 AM
Have you played Assault on Dragon Keep?

No, but everyone keeps telling me I should.


You must not have played Portal 2. CAVE JOHNSON!!

It was mildly amusing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on November 01, 2014, 08:55:59 AM
Have you played Assault on Dragon Keep?
No, but everyone keeps telling me I should.
You really should. Do you own Borderlands 2?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on November 05, 2014, 05:34:29 PM
So Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition hit Steam, GOG, mobile, etc.

It's $10 on mobile and $20 on PC, with the mobile version advertised as having IAPs (which would presumably drive down the initial cost of the thing, like with BGEE and BG2EE).

There are no IAPs; both the PC and mobile versions get everything out of the box. The game is double the price on PC for no real reason.

 :uhrr:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: lamaros on November 05, 2014, 05:53:13 PM
Why would you even buy it?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on November 05, 2014, 06:01:58 PM
I'll buy it eventually once it is cheaper; unlike BG1 and BG2, for whatever reason I can't get the widescreen mods to work with IWD. It lags *horribly*, and I've tried basically everything that the internet has suggested for a fix.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on November 05, 2014, 09:01:12 PM
Evolve seems like a great F2P or $20 game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ezrast on November 11, 2014, 08:04:03 AM
I have a pair of gift copies of Risk of Rain from the last Humble Bundle (putting it here since it's technically not Steam, though Steam keys are available). PM me if you want one.

edit: that was fast.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on November 12, 2014, 01:30:00 AM
Have to put this somewhere. The new Humble Bundle is truly awesome. 5.93$  :awesome_for_real: :awesome_for_real: :awesome_for_real:

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3584773/HumbleJumboBundle3.png)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on November 12, 2014, 02:37:39 AM
Mmm, Blaggards sounds good for that price...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on November 12, 2014, 10:51:13 AM
Looks like this is happening to us for Christmas: http://www.nintendo.com/amiibo

I think I'm excited about this as well.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on November 12, 2014, 11:13:44 AM
Mount & Blade is coming back in December. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJx6yQ5wmwY) This time it's Vikings.


Quote
Features:

CAMPAIGN
Living world that evolves around you, with historical and random events, as well as the actions of the player all contributing.
Detailed map including the British Isles, Frisia, Denmark and Norway.
More than 300 new cities, castles, villages and special scenes to discover, explore, conquer and plunder.
Scenes, many based on archeological information, that allow the player to enjoy the true beauty of the Dark Ages.
21 Kingdoms and 6 unique cultures.
More than 200 historical characters and 100 extra NPCs: Kings, Lords, Ladies, bards, priests and many others. Meet legendary figures like Ivar the Boneless or his bother Sigurd Snake-in-the-Eye, royalty like Harald, later known as FairHair, or Aelfred of Wessex.
A Dark and harsh world, where laws are weak and men forge legends.
A story mode where the player will be part of a complex plot involving political conspiracy, during the time the sons of Ragnar were leading their Great Heathen Army through Britain. An immersive game style with choice and consequence, romance, betrayal, moments of greatness and ruin.
A sandbox mode, the classic Mount&Blade system, where goals are determined by the player, but with all the richness and options offered by the new setting.
A system of character creation complete with personality and background options that will affect how the player relates to the world around him and the characters within it.
Completely new art work to immerse you like never before in the Viking world.

More than 15 possible companions, with deep interaction and different personalities. Sometimes their conflicts will force you to use cunning and diplomacy.
A complex religion system with two faiths, The Norse Gods and Christianity, with monasteries, special NPCs and parties. Religion will be a important factor in the game that will affect the player's interactions even within their own party.
Naval travel and warfare, a key feature to really make the setting complete.

Build, buy and even name your own ships.

Several historical types of boats: Langskip, Knorr, Snekkja, Karvi and more. Each has its own characteristics, which are also affected by the quality of the materials, with which it was constructed.

Battles can range from simple robbery to massive naval conflicts between huge fleets laden with warriors, all in dynamic battles where you can pilot your own boat, adjusting for factors such as wind, waves, and weather.
Coastal assault! You can lead your boat or your fleet in rapid assaults from the sea.
And more: waves, storms, the option to create your own Viking expedition or hire a ship for travel.
The option to build your own refuge, hire staff for it, and populate it with the wives and children of your troops...
A battle system based on what we know historically about warfare in the Viking Age.
Morale and battle psychology

Different kinds of troops: permanent companion soldiers or landed classes called to war for specific situations.

Formations: Scildweall (shield wall), ranks, square, and wedge formations

Tactic camera for an overview of the battlefield.

Improved AI.

Special units such as clerics, horn blowers, standard bearers and more.

Wounds and critical hit system.

Hundreds of new items, weapons and armors!

Detailed siege warfare system, with options to reduce a defender by hunger or morale, or by direct assault. With hard choices, plagues and famines, coastal assaults.

Inmersive soundtrack and sounds.
MULTI PLAYER
Several factions to choose from including Vikings, Saxons, Irish, Britons and Picts.

Immersive multi player scenes.

Massive multi player battles.

Units/items with special capabilities are also present in multiplayer, along with berserk rage.

Optional item Deadly Bow to transform any mode.

Multitude of modes including dynamic sea battles, coastal assaults, warlords, deathmatch, team deathmatch, Capture the Flag, Conquest, Battle, and Siege.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on November 12, 2014, 12:19:00 PM
Mount & Blade is coming back in December. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJx6yQ5wmwY) This time it's Vikings.

Maybe after this they can concentrate on getting Banner Lords done.  :why_so_serious:

though I will certainly buy this unless it gets devastatingly bad reviews


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on November 12, 2014, 02:19:13 PM
 :drill: I'm always up for paying these guys for good work.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on November 12, 2014, 11:27:08 PM
GOG is dong a free giveaway of M&B (expiring Friday).  I have never played it...maybe I should?  I don't really know what these games are about (beyond the obvious mounting and...blading), other than that a few of you seem to like it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on November 13, 2014, 05:59:57 AM
GOG is dong a free giveaway of M&B (expiring Friday).  I have never played it...maybe I should?  I don't really know what these games are about (beyond the obvious mounting and...blading), other than that a few of you seem to like it.

Simply put it's a sandbox. The base game is rather ordinary. You start as a guy by himself, you go to villages and recruit peasants, you level up yourself and your peasants into badasses, and you go kick ass across the countryside while raiding villages and seizing castles and towns.

Where the game shines is the combat feedback you get. It's simple yet satisfying. You ride on a horse, holding the left mouse button to prime your weapon, release to swing, right click to block. The difference is timing. How fast you're going, when you hit, where you hit, all amount to damage given to the target. If you whiff, you whiff. It's FPS style one with melee weaponry. On foot you can swing your weapon from either side or overhead depending upon your moves, and you can also block given how something is priming a swing. In practice you can fake someone into a block and then hit them from the other side. It's very reactionary when things get fast.

Then there's the modding community which opens up the game to a ridiculous level. You have full fantasy mods, historical mods, graphic mods, etc. These things take that sandbox and turn it up to 11. And it's all farily simple to mod, so that even a modding dummy like myself can unpack them into a mods folder. The interface allows for you to choose at the start menu which version you want to run. As an example, I'm playing Prophesy of Pendor, a mod that ramps up the difficulty and adds a new map, new factions, new mini-factions, new weapons and armor, victory conditions, and improved building options with management AI.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on November 13, 2014, 06:15:46 AM
I paid 13 euros for M&B when it first came to alpha or beta... whichever one was the one you could buy and get lifetime updates.  At the time, the combat simulation was fantastic.  I can only imagine that it is even better now.  I think the only game that could contend with what I remember about M&B combat is the D* Souls game line.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on November 13, 2014, 06:38:11 AM
I paid 13 euros for M&B when it first came to alpha or beta... whichever one was the one you could buy and get lifetime updates.  At the time, the combat simulation was fantastic.  I can only imagine that it is even better now.  I think the only game that could contend with what I remember about M&B combat is the D* Souls game line.

The combat is better, and I like the fact they've improved how ranged weapons work. Crossbows have a target that sharpens the longer you aim. Bows have a target that sharpens as you aim, but then decreases if you hold too long. The advantage is that bows are faster to reload. You can fire ranged weapons on horses if you want to roleplay a Mongal invader. There's skills for that.

There's an RPG skill system involved that I didn't mention. Levels, skills, and weapons specializations, it's all there. It all makes sense. It's the world as you want it, and you can play the virtuous lord who has high honor rating, or the scumbag bandit who raids everybody.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on November 14, 2014, 03:37:01 AM
Well hell, that's pretty high praise.  And at zero dollars, it seems worth taking a chance on!

Only about 3 hours left on the giveaway, for those of you playing along at home.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on November 14, 2014, 06:42:47 AM
It's certainly worth it. I've played over 400 hours of the game. I love it.

It has downsides, the graphics are dated and that's usually the first thing people harp on, however most mods allow you to turn them up to a useable potential. It has repetition, like any open world fighting game. You can get to a point where you are so powerful that you are unbeatable. You can get so rich that you basically win before you win. Obviously mods aren't perfect and when the developers make them sometimes they break textures. Unit AI can be dumb when climbing ladders for example. Sometimes they get stuck.

But if you do what I do and mod the game with the more developed mods, that all falls away for the most part. And what you are left with is this long, open, choose your own adventure story where you can play how you want and define your own successes.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on November 14, 2014, 11:22:59 AM
Is it the original Mount and Blade for free, or is it Mount and Blade Warband? I would just buy Warband instead if it's the original. It's better in basically every way and pretty much all the mod support these days is for that, not the original.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on November 14, 2014, 02:10:56 PM
Yeah get warband. It's where the mods are. It also can't be more than like $5.

FAKE EDIT: It's $4.99 on steam. DO IT.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on November 14, 2014, 02:45:49 PM
Gameplay trailer for some Korean ARPG called Lost Ark (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV0wWzDAwJU)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: murdoc on November 14, 2014, 03:40:41 PM
No loot dropped at all!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on November 14, 2014, 04:04:42 PM
No loot dropped at all!
Yea, that was annoyingly rad looking trash.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on November 15, 2014, 03:55:15 AM
I am just gonna leave this here. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fv-iwk9DWc)

The game is "This War of Mine". Check it out.

EDIT: Let me expand on that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQEkUUBeqxk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJKiCNzzrwU


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on November 15, 2014, 06:02:26 AM
An intriguing idea, but ruined by being yet another artsy indie 2.5D sidescroller.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on November 19, 2014, 04:57:34 AM
I can't believe I didn'tknow about this or that no one told me, but apparently my fake-prayers have been heard and Pathologic is being remade. (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1535515364/pathologic)

If you don't know what Pathologic is, you can save your soul by reading this famous old journal in three parts (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/04/10/butchering-pathologic-part-1-the-body/) about the best game that no one ever played. Definitely worth a read.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on November 19, 2014, 09:02:13 AM
Damn GOG (meaning CD Projekt RED) made me preorder Witcher 3 by making it too tempting (and adding a feel-good factor).
Lowering the price for owning both previous witchers (and being able to add them to GOG by just entering the product keys) + reimbursing the difference in currencies (so for once not paying a euro-bonus) in store credit was really nice.
(also having no drm-bs is always a nice touch)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on November 19, 2014, 09:22:05 AM
I really like GOG.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on November 19, 2014, 11:12:46 AM
Lucas Pope (Papers Please) new game, Return of the Obra Dinn, has a developer build available. (http://forums.tigsource.com/index.php?topic=40832.0)

(http://i.imgur.com/tidD2Ti.gif)

Consider me extremely teased.

And the first one who uses the word "artsy" gets a pile of poop in their Dropbox. You've been warned.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on November 19, 2014, 12:15:01 PM
That font reminds me of defender of the crown somehow


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on November 19, 2014, 02:08:13 PM
Now I have Pirate Jenny stuck in my head.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on December 04, 2014, 07:28:37 AM
My sister plays WoW.  She needed support.  They want her to upload her drivers license.   :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shannow on December 04, 2014, 07:33:15 AM
That font reminds me of defender of the crown somehow

I now have to go play Defender of the Crown. Love that game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on December 04, 2014, 08:03:16 AM
My sister plays WoW.  She needed support.  They want her to upload her drivers license.   :ye_gods:

Do they think she's not 18?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on December 04, 2014, 08:31:15 AM
It's a common practice to verify account ownership; I had to do it when my account got hacked.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Selby on December 04, 2014, 06:34:03 PM
My sister plays WoW.  She needed support.  They want her to upload her drivers license.   :ye_gods:

Do they think she's not 18?
They do not care.  If your account has anyone's name other than yours, too bad.  If it's your account, you prove it with a driver's license.  Change your name?  Court paperwork required to prove it to them and allow the change.  I swear it was easier to deal with the California DMV regarding a name change than Blizzard...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on December 05, 2014, 10:49:43 AM
New Mount & Blade: Vikings (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JV-9dHP1_4) very awesome trailer.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on December 05, 2014, 09:35:33 PM
Randomly came across a game called Depth (http://www.depthgame.com/) on Steam. 

I might have to get it just to experience the idea of playing as a shark hunting down people  :drill:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on December 05, 2014, 09:40:39 PM
New Mount & Blade: Vikings (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JV-9dHP1_4) very awesome trailer.  :why_so_serious:

Fucking LARPers. Not even they will soil my want of this game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on December 05, 2014, 10:09:59 PM
Randomly came across a game called Depth (http://www.depthgame.com/) on Steam. 

I might have to get it just to experience the idea of playing as a shark hunting down people  :drill:

That looks neat.  Lots of good reviews too.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on December 06, 2014, 01:14:22 AM
New Mount & Blade: Vikings (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JV-9dHP1_4) very awesome trailer.  :why_so_serious:

Fucking LARPers. Not even they will soil my want of this game.

Actually that video reminded me that I want to play it and in some ways it was pretty good in depicting how the fighting is at the early stages of a m&b game; a bunch of relatively unorganized soldiers charging into a bunch of peasants and the whole thing breaks into a general melee where the peasants usually get mowed down by soldiers with better weapons and some armour.

Since I haven't heard anything really bad about this "mod" I'll most likely spend the next weekend playing it (its released on the 11th)  :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on December 06, 2014, 12:08:00 PM
Randomly came across a game called Depth (http://www.depthgame.com/) on Steam. 

I might have to get it just to experience the idea of playing as a shark hunting down people  :drill:

That looks neat.  Lots of good reviews too.


Looks like a much better version of Evolve.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on December 06, 2014, 02:29:01 PM
 :drillf: Persona 5, new teaser. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmlaYjnPVI4)  :drillf:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on December 06, 2014, 09:11:59 PM
15 minutes of Uncharted 4 Gameplay (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow2cL-pp6p8&list=UU-2Y8dQb0S6DtpxNgAKoJKA)

I might have to get a PS4 for this.....


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on December 07, 2014, 11:33:43 AM
:drillf: Persona 5, new teaser. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmlaYjnPVI4)  :drillf:

Not useless!

(http://www.planetcrushers.com/leveljunkie/img/persona3_priestess.jpg)

(http://i.minus.com/ii4S5KU4DpkGy.gif)

(http://www.rpgamer.com/games/persona/persona4/screens/persona456.jpg)

(https://38.media.tumblr.com/7da178a7b9c8afc172e370501811455f/tumblr_n6jo2yTKPQ1qb4buao2_500.gif)

(http://www.siliconera.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/p2innocentsin_screenshots_09_thumb.png)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on December 07, 2014, 11:50:47 AM
15 minutes of Uncharted 4 Gameplay (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow2cL-pp6p8&list=UU-2Y8dQb0S6DtpxNgAKoJKA)

I might have to get a PS4 for this.....

Graphics look good. The climbing stuff looked like a mix of tedious and ridiculous though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on December 07, 2014, 12:32:20 PM
The climbing stuff looked like a mix of tedious and ridiculous though.

My guess is that it controls like Assassin's Creed's  climbing, which is fairly user friendly.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on December 07, 2014, 01:06:01 PM
The climbing stuff looked like a mix of tedious and ridiculous though.

My guess is that it controls like Assassin's Creed's  climbing, which is fairly user friendly.

Yeah, but it's never particularly fun and it seem like it's going on for a long stretch of time here.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on December 08, 2014, 09:23:44 AM
Standard Uncharted, I expect.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on December 11, 2014, 04:35:25 PM
GOTY (I am Bread) :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uujOarcRYE


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 11, 2014, 05:55:18 PM
I thought the climbing and exploring was the best part of the Uncharted clip. The shooting parts looked annoying and unfun.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on December 11, 2014, 06:10:10 PM
GOTY (I am Bread) :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uujOarcRYE

Are they preselling exclusive bread types?  If so I'm in for $2000 worth.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on December 12, 2014, 09:38:56 AM
I do not fucking understand anything about that video or the game that it displays. What... the... fuck?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 12, 2014, 09:42:46 AM
Do you think the reason 'video game journalists' are writing outrage pieces about GTA prostitutes (again) is that they are kindred professions?

One popped up in my google phone thingy and my eyes rolled out the back of my head, down the street and killed a hooker.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on December 12, 2014, 10:56:52 AM
GOTY (I am Bread) :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uujOarcRYE

I thought the climbing and exploring was the best part of the Uncharted I Am Bread clip.

I want to believe that Sky is directly replying to Lucas here.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on December 12, 2014, 12:26:20 PM
GOTY (I am Bread) :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uujOarcRYE

I thought the climbing and exploring was the best part of the Uncharted I Am Bread clip.

I want to believe that Sky is directly replying to Lucas here.

LOL, thought the same thing when I read it  :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on December 12, 2014, 12:28:20 PM
I should probably feel bad for how much I laughed at the blonde failing at toast, but I don't.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on December 12, 2014, 12:59:44 PM
I think that was Dodger, who is pretty entertaining in general.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on December 12, 2014, 03:07:09 PM
I think that was Dodger, who is pretty entertaining in general.

Yep, she's pretty cool:

https://www.youtube.com/user/DexterityBonus
https://www.youtube.com/user/PressHeartToContinue (her gaming channel)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on December 13, 2014, 08:47:23 AM
So to absolutely no fanfare, the oldish-school RPG-FPS Strife is finally out on a digital distro platform after years and years of nothing: http://store.steampowered.com/app/317040/

It looks to have been given a fancification using some kind of Doom sourceport tricks, but still. It's Strife, and it's good.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 13, 2014, 03:50:46 PM
Seems to be a scam brewing around a 'spiritual successor' to the Stalker series: http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2014/12/12/kickstarter-areal-scam-is-back-with-stalker-apocalypse-on-shady-new-crowdfunding-site/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on December 16, 2014, 07:01:20 PM
Has anyone tried Natural Doctrine?  I'm not typing it the way they do on the cover.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on December 18, 2014, 06:19:41 PM
I know this is a long shot, but did anyone play Final Fantasy Type 0 on the PSP?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ard on December 19, 2014, 12:53:38 AM
Any particular reason you need to know about the psp version?  It's not like it was ever localized outside of japan, and the ps4 version is still months away.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on December 19, 2014, 12:57:59 AM
He probably wants to know if it's worth getting the HD update.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on December 19, 2014, 06:32:34 AM
It's also entirely possible that the PSP version has a fan translation.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on December 19, 2014, 07:02:01 AM
As speculated, we are wondering if the HD remake will be worth a purchase.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on December 21, 2014, 01:17:08 PM
Can anyone give me a very brief overview of the Sims 3 vs. Sims 4?  My kid is begging me for one of them.  4 looks newer, prettier and has a whole let less expansions for her to keep bothering me about buying.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ceryse on December 21, 2014, 02:02:09 PM
Can anyone give me a very brief overview of the Sims 3 vs. Sims 4?  My kid is begging me for one of them.  4 looks newer, prettier and has a whole let less expansions for her to keep bothering me about buying.

I haven't played it a ton, but basically yes, you got it right. Of course, being the Sims there will be a ton of expansions in the future for 4, but since it only recently came out they don't have any, or many, expansions out. My personal experience with it was that it felt like a game with a lot of stuff cut from it for those 40 billion inevitable expansions, but that it was a much better put together base than 3 -- just without a whole lot to do. 4 is probably the better bet going forward, imo.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on December 21, 2014, 02:03:46 PM
Much appreciated, thanks.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: murdoc on December 30, 2014, 11:05:20 PM
Anyone hear about Origin being hacked? Myself and a couple of friends suddenly found ourselves the owners of FIFA 2015 without ever authorizing it. The only reason I even have that fucking thing installed was for Dragon Age: Inquisition. Checked /r/origin and it looks like a few others are having this issue, with this specific game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on December 31, 2014, 01:27:16 PM
Unlikely it was Origin itself that was hacked (though with EA you never know). More likely you either have a shared password that was hacked somewhere else or somebody brute forced your password

http://www.pcgamer.com/origin-users-reporting-unauthorized-purchases-appearing-on-their-accounts/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 02, 2015, 01:12:21 PM
This might be a stretch, but If you are into Wes Anderson's movies and/or zany games with addictive gameplay, you should totally go get the Roundabout demo on Steam. Try to get in with as little knowledge about the game as possible, if you can.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3584773/Roundabout%20Kate%20Welch%20Georgio%20Manos%20ByLKiv4IAAAoLNF%20s.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 02, 2015, 01:29:44 PM
Based on the quality of that picture (none) I had to watch the trailer (wish I hadn't).

It feels like improv.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maven on January 03, 2015, 12:48:34 PM
At least their marketing knows their audience. Want to sell a game? Get an unrealistically pretty bourgeois red-haired European American female to mug at the camera. Bonus points if she is a cosplayer and has to put up with stereotypical disgusting men who make male gamers feel better about their white-knight selves.

I'm a little cynical today -- it has been more difficult of late to stomach the overt "Pay no attention to the man behind the mirror" disconnection of gamer culture with its "Take nothing seriously!" stance you'd only find in the youth of rich nations. In other news, kids are on lawns in increasing numbers!

The game itself and what it is trying to do with its design seems great and original.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on January 03, 2015, 01:49:18 PM
I had to go watch the trailer. That looks so incredibly stupid and not in a "Goat Simulator HAH HAH" funny sort of way. No, it just looks fuckstupid.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 03, 2015, 03:39:18 PM
At least their marketing knows their audience. Want to sell a game? Get an unrealistically pretty bourgeois red-haired European American female to mug at the camera. Bonus points if she is a cosplayer and has to put up with stereotypical disgusting men who make male gamers feel better about their white-knight selves.

I'm a little cynical today -- it has been more difficult of late to stomach the overt "Pay no attention to the man behind the mirror" disconnection of gamer culture with its "Take nothing seriously!" stance you'd only find in the youth of rich nations. In other news, kids are on lawns in increasing numbers!

Someone has to say it so I'll be that one this time: "what the hell are you talking about?".

First, the game is not selling. As far as I can tell from Steam it is not doing well at all. So, "want to sell a game?", do not make one with FMVs and a young woman driving a limo.
Second, let's find a new way to complain about women in videogames, right? I don't know who the actress you are complaining about is or what she does outside of this game. The only thing I noticed is that -up to where I played- she's not barely dressed or sexulized. Is this a new trick of the capitalistic patriarchy of the world to oppress minorances? Well, still better than the old tricks.
Third, this game/"movie" would have worked (assuming it's working, it does for me but apparently not many others) with a male driver too, which is the whole point of fighting sexism and gender roles in this or any other industry: trying to write stories or create jobs that don't exploit or rely on gender stereotypes. Funny enough, all the other characters in the game tend to be flattened on stereotypes and tropes of all sorts, but I doubt that's what you are referring to. I am sure they picked this specific actress because she is conventionally pretty, but news at 11 in the 21st century the beauty-archy is stronger than ever and protagonists are always pretty, men and women.

I guess I was expecting a complain about the violence and the blood spatters everywhere, but this? With everything that is out there, literally everything, that is worth making social or political statements about, I can't believe you picked this one game to complain about... anything.

Finally, the gameplay itself is pretty cool and I am happy we at least agree on this.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on January 03, 2015, 04:44:54 PM
Roundabout is just a silly little game made, if I recall, by some goons from SA, and a lot (if not all) of the people in the FMV sequences are just goons and people from the community and the periphery.

This is such a weird thing to make such a stink about.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on January 03, 2015, 05:03:19 PM
At least their marketing knows their audience. Want to sell a game? Get an unrealistically pretty bourgeois red-haired European American female to mug at the camera. Bonus points if she is a cosplayer and has to put up with stereotypical disgusting men who make male gamers feel better about their white-knight selves.

I'm a little cynical today -- it has been more difficult of late to stomach the overt "Pay no attention to the man behind the mirror" disconnection of gamer culture with its "Take nothing seriously!" stance you'd only find in the youth of rich nations. In other news, kids are on lawns in increasing numbers!

The game itself and what it is trying to do with its design seems great and original.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/Rendakor/Canyoufuckinnot.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maven on January 03, 2015, 05:06:09 PM
I guess I was expecting a complain about the violence and the blood spatters everywhere, but this? With everything that is out there, literally everything, that is worth making social or political statements about, I can't believe you picked this one game to complain about... anything.

Yeah, fair amount of projection on my part for personal grievances and issues. I'm surprised you had the reaction you did.

Edit: I fell into gaming culture and lifestyle hard for the first 25 years of my life, and I have been trying to dig myself out of that culture and the internalized norms. I don't know how to discuss games anymore, or even how to voice criticism, as if there was a point beyond asking "Is it fun / cool?" and "Why is that?"


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 03, 2015, 05:54:08 PM
Yeah, fair amount of projection on my part for personal grievances and issues. I'm surprised you had the reaction you did.

Sorry, Maven. Honest. I just really... didn't see where you were coming from and couldn't understand your post. Didn't mean to be rude or insensitive and that's why I am apologising, I was really confused to the point I figured suspected your post was a subtle attack at me for the things I usually stand for.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on January 03, 2015, 07:50:13 PM
What the fuck is "gaming culture and lifestyle"?

I see so many people talking about gaming culture - WHAT IS GAMING CULTURE? Is it playing Mario Kart 64 in a dorm? Is it going to the arcade? Is it playing Moo2 by yourself along in a dark room? Playing LoL online?

Do gamers really have a shared culture and lifestyle? It doesn't seem so to me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on January 03, 2015, 08:17:26 PM
That's the kind of trivial dismissal that can be made in a sentence or two, but would take an article to properly answer.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on January 03, 2015, 09:53:35 PM
You don't need a fucking article. The answer is "NO." The most you need to add to that is "NO, don't be fucking stupid."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ezrast on January 03, 2015, 10:18:16 PM
The ability to be effectively explained as a small collection of reductive stereotypes is not a property of most cultures.

The culture that's the most difficult to identify as such is frequently the one you're steeped in, since subcultural differences seem more significant while commonalities are all just "normal."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 04, 2015, 02:07:41 AM
"Geek culture" is a thing, they study, document, and write thesis and books about it in universities. US universities.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: apocrypha on January 04, 2015, 03:48:47 AM
That doesn't make it a reflection of reality though  :wink:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on January 04, 2015, 07:42:56 AM
You don't need a fucking article. The answer is "NO." The most you need to add to that is "NO, don't be fucking stupid."

 :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on January 04, 2015, 07:57:14 AM
We don't need no fancy book learning!

We have wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_culture)!

But if you want book learning, Frans Mäyrä (http://people.uta.fi/~frans.mayra/index.html) is a pretty cool dude.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on January 04, 2015, 07:58:59 AM
ITT: Some people pretend this is Tumblr.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on January 04, 2015, 08:01:16 AM
No it isn't, Tumblr has pictures of butts and stuff.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on January 04, 2015, 08:18:07 AM
What is the obsession with tumblr whenever anyone wants to talk about culture or anything remotely related to the humanities?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on January 04, 2015, 08:24:19 AM
It's a lazy way of being dismissive and pretending you can't be categorized.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on January 04, 2015, 08:26:25 AM
What is the obsession with tumblr whenever anyone wants to talk about culture or anything remotely related to the humanities?
Because that's where people discuss irrelevant nonsense.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on January 04, 2015, 08:27:56 AM
What is the obsession with tumblr whenever anyone wants to talk about culture or anything remotely related to the humanities?
Because that's where people discuss irrelevant nonsense.

Have you checked the title of this thread?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on January 04, 2015, 08:42:15 AM
What is the obsession with tumblr whenever anyone wants to talk about culture or anything remotely related to the humanities?
Because that's where people discuss irrelevant nonsense.

Oh, you're one of those people.  Ok.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on January 04, 2015, 08:49:20 AM
Because all that's here is erudite, relevant and high-caliber work. Yep.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on January 04, 2015, 11:24:40 AM
Gaming "culture" MIGHT, and I stress MIGHT, have been something in the "good old days" when gaming was still something of a non-mainstream form of entertainment. You know, when being a gamer meant you "lived in your parent's basement" or "were one of those weird guys that plays with computers." Now? Fuck a bunch of "gaming culture." It's a way for stuck-up nerds to try to make their hobby obsessions into some kind of noble calling or "lifestyle choice" instead of what it is... a bit of "pop culture" that you happen to enjoy. Grandmothers are playing video games on their fucking cell phones, for fuck's sake. Just because you play video games does not mean you are some form of "culture." Do cinema geeks get to claim they are part of "movie culture?"

Just because you have a tattoo of pixel art Mega Man on your left ass cheek and claim Nintendo as your set does not make you or your particular fascination a part of some exclusive culture. It's special snowflake-ism writ large.

Fuck. Play video games. Enjoy video games. BE YOURSELF. You don't have to identify as part of some social movement or culture to be a goddamn gamer. That shit is getting as bad as the fucking furries were in the early 2k's.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on January 04, 2015, 11:31:13 AM
Gaming "culture" MIGHT, and I stress MIGHT, have been something in the "good old days" when gaming was still something of a non-mainstream form of entertainment. You know, when being a gamer meant you "lived in your parent's basement" or "were one of those weird guys that plays with computers." Now? Fuck a bunch of "gaming culture." It's a way for stuck-up nerds to try to make their hobby obsessions into some kind of noble calling or "lifestyle choice" instead of what it is... a bit of "pop culture" that you happen to enjoy. Grandmothers are playing video games on their fucking cell phones, for fuck's sake. Just because you play video games does not mean you are some form of "culture." Do cinema geeks get to claim they are part of "movie culture?"

Just because you have a tattoo of pixel art Mega Man on your left ass cheek and claim Nintendo as your set does not make you or your particular fascination a part of some exclusive culture. It's special snowflake-ism writ large.

Fuck. Play video games. Enjoy video games. BE YOURSELF. You don't have to identify as part of some social movement or culture to be a goddamn gamer. That shit is getting as bad as the fucking furries were in the early 2k's.

What the hell are you talking about?  I don't think we agree on what culture means.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on January 04, 2015, 11:38:10 AM
Obviously I object to the labeling of hobbies as some kind of "culture."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on January 04, 2015, 11:47:55 AM
I don't think gaming is the first hobby to spawn a culture.

edit: also, we have terms like "drug culture", so I don't think it's inviolable as a concept in any way.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on January 04, 2015, 11:56:30 AM
Fine.  Define it, then.

Good luck with that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on January 04, 2015, 12:03:07 PM
Obviously I object to the labeling of hobbies as some kind of "culture."

You'd be wrong.

Football Culture
Golfing Culture
Sports Fan Culture
Renfair Culture
Writing Culture
Programming Culture
Internet Culture

Anything that has customs, terms and events that outsiders wouldn't understand without indoctrination has a culture. Of course gaming has a culture.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on January 04, 2015, 12:09:43 PM
Fine.  Define it, then.

Good luck with that.

Which is exactly the point I made already.  It's trivial to say "define it!" and then raise your arms in triumph when someone isn't able or willing to go into the depth needed to talk about it on an internet forum.  Good rhetorical strategy, I guess. 

Also, Haemish, I think you're confusing social groups and culture.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on January 04, 2015, 12:19:01 PM
No, you keep saying it has a culture.  You are unable to define it even remotely.  Could it have many?  Maybe.  But it does not have "a" culture.

This is one of the dumbest lines of discussion we have had around here recently.  Good job.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on January 04, 2015, 12:21:57 PM
Gamer on gaming forum gets upset at gaming related discussion.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on January 04, 2015, 12:23:23 PM
No, you keep saying it has a culture.  You are unable to define it even remotely.  Could it have many?  Maybe.  But it does not have "a" culture.

Yeah, this.

Also, I don't think of these things

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Football Culture
Golfing Culture
Sports Fan Culture
Renfair Culture
Writing Culture
Programming Culture
Internet Culture

as "cultures." Hobbies, fandoms, incestuous group cuddles, and demographic clusters, but cultures? No. Just no. Calling them cultures is just pseudo-intellectual wankery.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on January 04, 2015, 12:39:12 PM
It is proper usage of the word though, as far as language goes.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 04, 2015, 12:41:56 PM
It's not pseudo-intellectual wankery, it is Sociology.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on January 04, 2015, 12:49:15 PM
No, you keep saying it has a culture.  You are unable to define it even remotely.  Could it have many?  Maybe.  But it does not have "a" culture.


So does *every* culture.  That's why we have the word sub-culture.

Also, come on.  You're using shitty online rhetorical arguments.  "You're unable to define it remotely." Oh come on.  I already mentioned the problem with that "challenge" more than once.  And the funny thing is, someone already linked to a source that had lots of good information on the concept that I have no interest in summarizing for you.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on January 04, 2015, 01:04:31 PM
Can we label your brand of wankery a culture of F13, or is it a subculture?  I am going to go back to my football viewing (sub)culture now, you can continue making up useless bullshit in my absence.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on January 04, 2015, 01:08:03 PM
No, but we can label your (and others') dismissal of the humanities writ large as part of the gaming culture Maven was lamenting in the first place.

But whatever. It's clear you have absolutely no background in this kind of thing and are just talking off the cuff about what sounds right to you. So fine.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on January 04, 2015, 01:11:53 PM
No, but we can label your (and others') dismissal of the humanities writ large as part of the gaming culture Maven was lamenting in the first place.

 :awesome_for_real:

And yes, I have no background in video game culture studies.  Guilty.  I confess to not wanting to learn more, I prefer my wanking to be more physical.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on January 04, 2015, 01:45:14 PM
As someone who has studied both natural and human sciences, this kind of kneejerk dismissal is rather common. Funnily enough it seems to go both ways.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on January 04, 2015, 02:17:47 PM
Why does it matter either way?  :uhrr:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maven on January 04, 2015, 02:42:16 PM
Wow, OK. Very interesting discussion. When I think gaming culture, I think Penny Arcade Expo as evidence it at least *exists*. You say "enthusiast gathering", I think "the place where my people gather," though not anymore -- and I'd accept the argument that it was delusion on my part.

Growing up with games, it becomes a part of who you are. You adopt values and loves in the absence of any other cultural traditions. It's born of commercialism, but you still learn to associate with the symbols (N7) and the moments (Arrow Through Knee).

I don't have a 'people', any type of connection I found was through a love of games. Maybe this is a unique phenomenon for anyone under the age of 35.

If I had to guess, this is the well-spring of passion that people have for these properties and what drives them to get into the industry.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ezrast on January 04, 2015, 03:11:37 PM
Jesus Christ what sort of windmills are you people tilting against? You can't seriously be arguing that there isn't a substantial set of media, iconography, and vocabulary that originated with internet gamer dorks and is primarily perpetuated by internet gamer dorks.

We're not giving you a definition because culture is a fucking common word and we all know that you're perfectly capable of having a reasonable discussion about it, if only you weren't so keen on complaining that the pseudo-intellectual cyber-bullies are trying to put you into a box, or whatever.

TotalBiscuit is gamer culture; DPS spreadsheets are gamer culture; Leeroy Jenkins is gamer culture; SOMEBODY SET UP US THE BOMB and THE PRINCESS IS IN ANOTHER CASTLE are gamer culture; PAX is gamer culture; f13 is gamer culture. None of those things are video games, but every single poster on this forum knows where they come from and why they're significant, whereas non-gamers will at best have heard the reference but not know what it means. Yes, your grandma plays cell phone games and isn't part of the in-group; in other news, I ate an enchilada last week and I haven't turned into a Mexican yet.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 04, 2015, 04:02:04 PM
Is no one else paying closer attention to the fact haemish is slowly turning into a secondary character from an early Neal Stephenson novel?

To those of you saying there isn't: Of course there's gamer culture, don't be fucking retarded.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on January 04, 2015, 04:24:20 PM
I didn't say there wasn't gamer culture, just that this thread isn't the place for discussing it in a serious manner.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 04, 2015, 04:34:00 PM
And I wasn't necessarily responding to you. Or anyone in particular. Just the entire conversation. There's nothing to even "discuss" about this topic. It's stupider than the, uhhh, whatever that girl's name was who was a thing for like a week.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on January 04, 2015, 04:52:28 PM
in other news, I ate an enchilada last week and I haven't turned into a Mexican yet.

Yet.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 04, 2015, 05:34:15 PM
in other news, I ate an enchilada last week and I haven't turned into a Mexican yet.

Yet.
Yét.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ezrast on January 04, 2015, 09:07:27 PM
in other news, I ate an enchilada last week and I haven't turned into a Mexican yet.

Yet.
Yét.
Todavía.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on January 05, 2015, 02:36:34 AM
My objection was to the "I fell into gamer culture" and the "culture and the internalized norms" stuff. Less that there is a loose culture in some sense and more that there are shared values and norms beyond trivial things like knowing who MegaMan is.

There is a somewhat well known game journalist who is also a former Neo-nazi who claims that he became a Neo-nazi because of "gamer culture." Most gamers share certain knowledge and proclivities, and if you're into games then playing them is part of your lifestyle. But I think people vastly overestimate how similar people who play games are, especially as Haemish points out you now have Grandma playing Angry Birds, mom playing Candy Crush, kid playing Minecraft, older kid playing COD and dad playing football simulator.

COD players have a culture. Dota 2 players have a culture. (It involves a lot of swearing and Russian) I don't know that gamers as a whole have much beyond a shared hobby. And even then there's a huge difference between a shared hobby like golf, which is a specific sport associated with a socio-economic class, and video games as a whole.

I also don't really think "geek culture" is a thing beyond liking what people at Comicon tell you to like and Joss Whedon stuff. It's like drinking Coke because you see a lot of Coke commercials, there's no culture there you're just being a predictable consumer.

Not to get too armchair psychologist, but I suspect in the absence of religion, community ties, etc, people look for groups they can consider themselves a part of, for whatever flimsy reasons. So instead of "your people" being your neighbors, your extended family or your congregation it's people who love Star Wars. And I suspect a reason there is a lot of strife in these groups is that liking Star Wars isn't actually much of a connection.
----

My sister is an anthropologist. Maybe I'll ask her about geek / gamer culture.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 05, 2015, 05:07:59 AM
people vastly overestimate how similar people who play games are, especially as Haemish points out you now have Grandma playing Angry Birds, mom playing Candy Crush, kid playing Minecraft, older kid playing COD and dad playing football simulator.

I don't think anyone overstimates that here. Not everyone who listens to Bauhaus is a goth. Yet goth as a subculture exists and people can be more or less (or not at all) involved with it. Or even, not everyone who believes in god is a Catholic, or they are but don't give a fuck about it. So grandma and dad will probably be never be part of "gaming culture" or absorb any of it, while the kids might. That doesn't mean they'll be drones in the big hive mind consciousness of the Gaming Culture Cult, because such thing doesn't exist yet. It means they'll internalize and learn to recognize lots of things, like customs and traditions that go beyond knowing who Megaman is from that subculture eventually picking which ones to adhere to and which ones to discard, since even in the oppressive and omnipresent Christian culture people seem to have different ethics and lifestyles. The comparison with religion is a huge stretch and not to be taken seriously, but it still shows how belonging is not always defining. And we are all gamers to the bone here, but our involvement in the culture is certainly different.

I think the problem with Maven statement was that they implied there are already some ruling habits and poor standards for human interactions defining gaming culture as a whole (which are the unpleasant one they got in touch with and hurt by), and that's questionable and probably worth another discussion entirely. You could say that "Gamergate" showed at least two very distinct and opposing sides of the same subculture.

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I also don't really think "geek culture" is a thing beyond liking what people at Comicon tell you to like and Joss Whedon stuff.

Sorry but no. I understand dismissing lots of things with "people are sheep" and do what Tumblr says, or Comicon says, is easy especially on the internet, but this is lowering any discussion to an extremely shallow and superficial level especially when we are not exactly conversing about which Mario Kart version is the best ever. I know this is gonna sound weird, but I am not a fan of the concept of cultures and subcultures, yet they exist and acknowledging them, and their implications, is important.

A culture, among other things, is a collection of its customs and traditions, its history and its legacy, and how they affect someone's everyday life and preferences. Its members don't even need to be too aware of these things to be part of it as long as they have absorbed it subconsciously. Hard to come up with something like that when it comes to drinking Coke (although someone might argue that collectionism or brand worshipping spawned their own subcultures), but not so difficult when you think about the influence of everything gamey and geeky in people who are about twenty years younger than us. That said, cultures and subcultures overlap a lot and often more than one coexist in a single person, and sometimes over the years they branch into new ones or assimilate and absorb each others. Maybe that's what is confusing you.

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I suspect in the absence of religion, community ties, etc, people look for groups they can consider themselves a part of, for whatever flimsy reasons. So instead of "your people" being your neighbors, your extended family or your congregation it's people who love Star Wars. And I suspect a reason there is a lot of strife in these groups is that liking Star Wars isn't actually much of a connection.

Community ties always come from a desire to feel more comfortable in a society as you say. "Safety" is not the main issue anymore as we haven't had to worry about thunders, dinosaurs, or even barbarians and looters for a while now. Such comfort can take many shapes and in the past religion and the concept of "fatherland/motherland/homeland" were easy choices to make people feel like they belonged. Now these things are losing traction for obvious reasons and new ones are taking their place. So it's not "Star Wars", it's "people who understand why I love Star Wars and why it's important to me instead of laughing about it", and that can become a very powerful bond. Tragedy is, in a not so distant future Star Citizen or Apple will become powerful bonds, but I find them only slightly more amusing than God or Allah or Scientology or Tarot reading.

You wanna hear a random one that is quite funny? Yoga. Not Buddhism, no, nor "New Age". They still exist but are overlapping and being absorbed by another. Yoga, which used to be a practice belonging to other cultures but is now mutating into its own subculture, can include buddhism but doesn't have to and it's becoming an umbrella set of loose ethics and aesthetics (with their own conflicting currents) that is making a lot of people feel like they belong to something bigger and universal that is also worth fighting (comfortably) for. Incidentally, you've started seeing people fighting over and about videogames pretty violently in 2014, and I would say that's a definite sign of how strongly its members are starting to feel about this one large and contradictory community and its parent subculture.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 05, 2015, 08:25:35 AM
I'm going to have to come back during my lunch break.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maven on January 05, 2015, 09:13:33 AM
I have to get to class, but I want to make a simple point about what I saw from the Roundabout trailer: They wouldn't have used an African American for their promotional character.

Here's another example. My Accounting Textbook profiled 25 entrepreneurs at the beginning of each of its chapters. Most were white males who came from upper-class backgrounds and have founded multimillion dollar enterprises. The one African American woman profiled ran an ice-cream handtruck business. Subtle social critique.

I want to point out what's *invisible* and taken for granted about something like gamer subculture (subculture more appropriate). I don't mean to spark another long discussion, but something to consider.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 05, 2015, 10:42:01 AM
There is a lot of good info here but as far as I can tell, the friction comes from people who don't want to be labeled.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Draegan on January 05, 2015, 10:52:11 AM
How do people claim that there isn't a gamer culture out there. You're all in it. It's proven by posting on this message board.

I have to say though, Haem's rambling is funny though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 05, 2015, 11:46:23 AM
There is a lot of good info here but as far as I can tell, the friction comes from people who don't want to be labeled.
I've found that people who care about being labeled care more about being mislabeled rather than labeled generally.

Try so hard to be one thing and someone calls you something else. That shit seems to cut deep.

These people are generally all tools though, so whatever.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on January 05, 2015, 12:16:54 PM
It's not pseudo-intellectual wankery, it is Sociology.

I stand by my definition.  :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 05, 2015, 12:37:54 PM
It's not pseudo-intellectual wankery, it is Sociology.

I stand by my definition.  :grin:

I don't completely disagree :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on January 05, 2015, 01:01:17 PM
I find labeling the gamer SUBCULTURE (which is almost as stupid a word to use as "culture") as a culture as if its part of some larger, amorphous culture that shares memes and in-jokes is just silly. Gaming as a "culture" doesn't have nearly enough of the sort of shared experiences that would identify cultures. I mean, you can talk about African-American culture as an actual thing because up until possibly this generation of kids, "the struggle" actually meant a shared experience - it meant something to EVERY MEMBER OF THAT COMMUNITY. Gaming has what? Nintendo? Super Mario? I'm a gamer and I never ever had a Nintendo. Hell, most of the Nintendo games you guys in this "culture" hold up as sacrosanct I never even played - Zelda, Mega Man being two examples. I only knew of them through friends or because I worked at an Electronics Boutique in college. Which is why I just boggle at things like 8-bit music as some kind of scene and pixel art as frankly stupid. The limitations of the medium caused the aesthetic, not a goddamn choice and I reckon if those guys had had HD graphics then, they'd have chosen them.

I wouldn't label the punk movement as a culture anymore than gaming, or football or any of the other hobbyist/lifestyle choices. Most of what I'd reduce culture discussions down to shared experiences and terminology born of socioeconomic, ethnic, generational or national/regional circumstances. Southern Culture may be a thing but it's mostly just fucking rednecks refusing to rise above their shitty backgrounds. Gaming culture? Why would you even bother to study something like that? It's like trying to dissect how many variants of racists there are at a football game and make some assumption based on it that all football fans are drunken racists pricks. It may be true but who gives a shit?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on January 05, 2015, 02:12:59 PM
So now we're arguing over the definition of "culture".  Cool, f13 had been lacking a philosophy and linguistics thread.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rattran on January 05, 2015, 02:31:06 PM
What does this all have to do with Iain Banks?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 05, 2015, 02:33:32 PM
I wouldn't label the punk movement as a culture anymore than gaming, or football or any of the other hobbyist/lifestyle choices.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/39720/ANIMATED%20GIFS/TKxhY.gif)

Naw, but for real, you're wrong.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on January 05, 2015, 02:41:54 PM
Sociologically speaking, I don't see the benefit in studying them as "cultures" all to their own, as if their mores and terminology existed in some form of vacuum. As subcultures (which is a much more apt term), they grow out of other things. If you couldn't afford a Nintendo in the '90's when they were the hotness, does that somehow make you not part of gaming culture even if you play the shit out of video games now? You can't look at the punk subculture of the '70's without seeing how it sprang out of very shitty economic circumstances in England in the '70's, or how grunge grew out of a rejection of the over-commercialization of metal music in the late '80's.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on January 05, 2015, 02:45:27 PM
It sounds like some just don't like where the bar is set. To HaemishM culture needs to be something with a history measured in centuries.

Well okay, but pop culture is still a thing, and decades can be pretty long when you're living through them.

I do know that when I'm in a room of other gamers (as in the culture) we all have something to talk about despite differences in age and politics and even genres. We all know Penny Arcade, we all know WoW sucks now and all that.

The funny thing is that, in my experience, said group of gamers usually includes several women as well as guys, and a variety of sexual leanings. So I have a bit of a problem with focusing on loudmouth misogynists as "gamer culture," but maybe I've just been lucky with who I run into..


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on January 05, 2015, 02:56:08 PM
Sociologically speaking, I don't see the benefit in studying them as "cultures" all to their own, as if their mores and terminology existed in some form of vacuum.

You're the one adding that particular baggage to the idea of culture.  It certain is NOT understood to be anything in a vacuum.

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If you couldn't afford a Nintendo in the '90's when they were the hotness, does that somehow make you not part of gaming culture even if you play the shit out of video games now?

Why would that be the case?  Has anyone implied that?  I really don't know what you're talking about with a lot of this stuff.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on January 05, 2015, 03:06:25 PM
You must not be part of gaming culture.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maven on January 05, 2015, 03:27:35 PM
Most of what I'd reduce culture discussions down to shared experiences and terminology born of socioeconomic, ethnic, generational or national/regional circumstances. Southern Culture may be a thing but it's mostly just fucking rednecks refusing to rise above their shitty backgrounds. Gaming culture? Why would you even bother to study something like that?

I can understand taking it less seriously because gamer culture and others like it spring out of products instead of some historical tradition, but you're narrowing down what's "real" culture because it seems you judge the other cultures as unworthy of such consideration. It exists. It's real. It's worth studying.

Edit: You talked about grunge as springing from the rejection of the overcommercialization of metal music, and I see something like that with gamer culture, only in this case its apathy towards anything real or other historical tradition -- they form their own traditions and identity around the commercial fantasy and immersion in it. Gamer culture isn't in a vacuum, but what it seems to spring out of is privilege or detachment. I'm not a sociologist. Political apathy is another element I think of.

schild is right about mislabeling, but here's the thing: I can't seem to *escape* the impact that a lifetime of video games and working in the field has had on me. It's always going to be a part of me. I'm building on top of that foundation, and some days I'm pretty harsh that this was how I spent my early years.

Media is the means by which we communicate and export culture outside of our intimate circles.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on January 05, 2015, 03:41:23 PM
Who'd have guessed Haemish had so much in common with Sheldon Cooper.

Humanities aren't a thing.

There is a lot of good info here but as far as I can tell, the friction comes from people who don't want to be labeled.

I get the same feeling.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on January 05, 2015, 04:02:47 PM
Who'd have guessed Haemish had so much in common with Sheldon Cooper.

Humanities aren't a thing.

I didn't say that. I just said that studying subcultures like "gaming culture" out of context with what spawned them leads to inbred self-congratulatory wankery. Oh wait, I didn't say that but I should have. I blame the Internet for trying to make it into a thing. I also blame gamergate.

It's like studying "pop culture" seriously. You are studying the effects of commercialized mass media on people but if you don't take into account things like class, generation and regional cultures, I really can't take you seriously. Because pop culture doesn't just create itself, it is an expression of a larger zeitgeist. That's why they should be more properly labeled subculture. And whatever passes for gaming culture is a sub-sub-subculture of a subculture (Internet culture > geek culture > gaming culture). None of which are all that interesting to study by themselves.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maven on January 05, 2015, 04:13:37 PM
OK. I disagree on how interesting it is to study. But otherwise I'm with you on the rest.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on January 05, 2015, 04:37:29 PM
You are studying the effects of commercialized mass media on people but if you don't take into account things like class, generation and regional cultures, I really can't take you seriously.

I mean, maybe we are talking about different literature, but the work I've read on pop culture absolutely tends to take those sort of things into account.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on January 05, 2015, 04:40:27 PM
Sorry to interrupt the wankery, but AGDQ 2015 is going on right now until the 10th.  http://www.twitch.tv/gamesdonequick

And you're lucky enough to have missed the Sonic and FZero blocks.  Boring as hell.

 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on January 05, 2015, 04:45:57 PM
Yeah, I've basically had this stream on since yesterday noon.  I love me some speed running.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on January 06, 2015, 03:53:38 AM
Sorry to interrupt the wankery, but AGDQ 2015 is going on right now until the 10th.  http://www.twitch.tv/gamesdonequick

And you're lucky enough to have missed the Sonic and FZero blocks.  Boring as hell.

Personally, I find games like Sonic and F-Zero to be more palatable than half the other stuff I've caught.  At least they're designed to look OK when you're moving fast.  For some reason, I get really motion sick when I'm watching people speedrun FPS (though I have no problem playing them), can't take more than about five minutes of it.

Some of this stuff is pretty crazy, though.  Was watching the quick run through of Jedi Knight yesterday, guy killed the final boss with a giant stack of detonation pack charges.  "Yeah, he's actually invulnerable to this weapon, what's killing him is that it throws him off at such high speed that he hits the wall and takes impact damage"


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shannow on January 06, 2015, 09:53:15 AM
I'm just going to leave this here...

 Play a couple of thousand MSDOS games through your browser. (https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_msdos_games/v2)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on January 06, 2015, 11:08:50 AM
Interesting!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: cironian on January 06, 2015, 11:31:43 AM
So now we're arguing over the definition of "culture".  Cool, f13 had been lacking a philosophy and linguistics thread.

I disagree. It's really more of a subthread.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Miasma on January 06, 2015, 05:19:45 PM
I'm just going to leave this here...

 Play a couple of thousand MSDOS games through your browser. (https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_msdos_games/v2)
Captain Bible in the Dome of Darkness


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: bhodi on January 06, 2015, 08:07:58 PM
Has this been posted anywhere yet? (http://gamasutra.com/blogs/PaulTozour/20141216/232023/The_Game_Outcomes_Project_Part_1_The_Best_and_the_Rest.php)

Seems like it's a Schild special.
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We have seen that four factors – total project duration, team experience level, financial incentives based on individual performance, and re-use of an existing game engine from a similar game – have clear correlations with game project outcomes.

Our study found several surprises, including a complete lack of any correlations between factors that one would assume should have a large impact, such as team size, game genre, target platforms, the production methodology the team used, or any additional financial incentives the team was offered beyond individual performance compensation.

Part 2 (http://gamasutra.com/blogs/PaulTozour/20150106/233254/The_Game_Outcomes_Project_Part_2_Building_Effective_Teams.php) is particularly good. "If your team is directionless assholes, you're probably going to fail, no matter how much money is thrown at you". But with science! And Numbers!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 06, 2015, 08:27:05 PM
Saw part 1 when it was posted. Basically it's a study where logic and a rudimentary understanding of the history of game development would have sufficed.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on January 06, 2015, 11:00:48 PM
It can basically be summarized as "if your team has no hierarchy and no management your gonna have a bad time", or "how to run a company for dummies". Seeing just how many game companies claim to still want to be "like a startup" or "lean" even though they have a staff of over 200 people does make these super obvious obeservation kind of necessary though.

Last week saw another social media meltdown of a senior engineer in the games business - this time from Valve - over just how fucked up the corporate culture in those companies is and just how little oversight and direction those people are given by "management". The gist of it: nothing gets ever done, people only work on their pet projects or on what's fun at the time and everyone acts like a super asshole.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on January 06, 2015, 11:28:22 PM
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Our study found several surprises, including a complete lack of any correlations between factors that one would assume should have a large impact, such as team size, game genre, target platforms, the production methodology the team used, or any additional financial incentives the team was offered beyond individual performance compensation.

This isn't surprising, especially the production methodology. That stuff is just snake oil fad nonsense, no different from diet books or the "how to run a successful business using this exciting new approach" books you see in airport bookstores.

Production methodology adherents are like cult members - they make up certifications and job titles, bill themselves out as "experts" in a thing they just invented. "you need a certified scrum master!!!"


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on January 06, 2015, 11:41:54 PM
You should check out the recent blog posts by the disgruntled Valve employee.

He said that working for Microsoft was by comparison more enjoyable than working for Valve. The link to Valve's employee handbook is now legendary, as is it's high turnover rate. He also linked to Valves "Open Plan" office space that looked right out of a chinese sweatshop and he criticized Valve's "lack of hierarchy and leadership"

You can be a cool and hip creative company and still have a management hierarchy and a clear leadership structure, if you ignore all the basics that make up a successful company than no amount of business snake oil will help you if you're not lucky enough to have infinite cash flow because of one lucky product.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 07, 2015, 01:57:27 AM
So that's why we don't have Half Life 3 yet? Because of anarchy?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on January 07, 2015, 02:36:02 AM
Basically.

If you are interested there have been a number of high profile ex-Valve employees spilling the beans about Valve's internal culture. The two biggest complaints by all ex-employees have been Valve's stack ranking system for employee performance and how toxic that system is to team work and employee interaction and the lack of a leadership structure. Third on the list were the cramped working conditions.

They basically all said that stack ranking has destroyed employee morale, team work and team spirit and has pitted all employees against each other with everyone looking out for themselves/screwing over the competition. They also all said that Valve's lack of leadership/management structure meant that basically nothing got ever done/finished on time or at all as ideas and projects went in and out of favour with key persons constantly or because people were more worried about their popularity because of the stack ranking system. Most people allegedly got away with doing whatever they felt like doing at the time as long as it was cool and didn't hurt their standing amongst their peers. They basically claim that most projects get done by small teams despite the fucked up corporate culture even though Valve has now >200 employees because bigger teams degenerate into petty high-school politics and cliques.

This is no singular opinion by one disgruntled ex-employee either, numerous people have come forward now and basically said the same things. After reading up on this it seems that Valve basically only exists because of steam and it's constant revenue stream subsidizing everything.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on January 07, 2015, 04:28:38 AM
I'm pretty sure we had a thread years ago on the Valve Handbook and at the time I said it was marketing fluff, but I may be misremembering.

This Valve stuff coming out doesn't surprise me. I'm not at liberty to say why, beyond that in the limited capacity I interacted with them there seemed to be pretty obvious issues. They gave me a pretty swank pen though - it still works!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kageru on January 07, 2015, 05:01:34 AM

I would be impressed to see the company culture or structure that could survive stack ranking. The incentives it creates are likely to be destructive unless your workers truly are interchangeable widgets and you've got an endless supply of easily integrated new hires.

The valve handbook does cover that they use stack ranking but for remuneration rather than continued employment. Of course if they mean different levels of bonus on top of a good wage or changing your base salary to a "you might as well quit" level is an important detail not mentioned.

I would suspect no half-life 3 because valve is not that large (330 employees, EA has thousands) and DOTA / CS:GO and Steam / Steambox itself are higher priority and more lucrative. Though a game company being a gaggle of competing egos and poor focus certainly wouldn't be new either.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on January 07, 2015, 05:24:58 AM
There's a dedicated Neogaf thread discussing the fact that Steam has no dedicated customer service staff or backend developers so I'd guess it's mostly the latter (poor focus) although I guess that Valve makes more than enough money with Steam, Dota, CS:GO and Team Fortress that they don't reallyfeel the pressure to change anything either.

To have one insanely successful product that secures your cash flow can be a sweet sweet poison. See Microsoft and Google for reference. Google in particular seems like a company that pretty much fails at everything that is not search yet makes enough money from search that they don't really care that they burn billions on projects that go nowhere fast.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on January 07, 2015, 05:42:07 AM
There's a dedicated Neogaf thread discussing the fact that Steam has no dedicated customer service staff or backend developers so I'd guess it's mostly the latter (poor focus) although I guess that Valve makes more than enough money with Steam, Dota, CS:GO and Team Fortress that they don't reallyfeel the pressure to change anything either.

I also imagine working on CS or steam's backend isn't sexy enough that your co-workers won't notice, and thus you'll end up at the end of the stack ranking (cause no one cares what you are working on).  So in fact Valve's own culture prevents people from trying to improve those things.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kageru on January 07, 2015, 05:44:54 AM
Since Valve is privately held no stock-holders demanding ever greater efficiency / profits either. Which gives them a lot of freedom but one less reason to focus on company discipline. And since ego, status and money demand being part of the sexy big-win projects I'm not really surprised no one dedicates themselves to customer service.

Of course they do avoid the expense and tensions of a more traditional management structure.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on January 07, 2015, 07:51:39 AM
Links Jeff ??


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maven on January 07, 2015, 09:11:00 AM
Yeah, I'd like to read those disgruntled posts. I heard about Valve's structure and thought it was an interesting idea, but failed to take psychology, social theory, and business organization principles into consideration.

Everyone working on what interests them so projects are chosen by a popularity contest! How novel! Wait, it creates a toxic work culture? Oh... oh.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on January 07, 2015, 09:34:20 AM
It's the other way around Maven. Stack ranking creates an environment where such things happen because your performance is evaluated by your peers. In theory this should be good because your team knows best who was great and who wasn't. Stack ranking is usually zero sum though so for everyone that gets a better than average evaluation there has to be one below average. Since the results of the stack ranking usually also determine bonus payments and also promotions/firings it creates an environment where people deliberately tank the performance of their colleagues to seem better by comparison or campaign for their own popularity.

So if nobody likes you or doesn't like what you're doing or doesn't even know your exist you're more likely to end up in the bottom rung than if you're well liked or work on cool shit. Combine that with a dysfunctional management structure and you get all kinds of crazy.

There are dozens of accounts by employees of companies that use/used stack ranking on the internet that describe just how toxic that system is.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on January 07, 2015, 09:39:19 AM
The GAF thread I mentioned is a good starting off point. The OP collects most of the info posted by the ex-valve guy on twitter and Facebook and in the thread a few other ex-employees are mentioned by name that stated similar stuff in the past. The OP also has a picture of the DOTA2 part of Valves office as an example of the cramped offices.

Warning it's GAF so lots of stupid in between the largely decent and insightful discussion

Former Valve dev talks about firings, productivity, cliques, bad management, office (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=964018)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on January 07, 2015, 09:51:11 AM
Gamasutra published a list of names of people that got fired last year during an internal restructuring of Valve operations: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/186592/Several_out_of_work_as_Valve_makes_large_decisions_about_its_future.php

A few of them have since also come forward about the working conditions at valve, especially Jeri Ellsworth.

I cannot find the thread about Steam support and how it is implemented right now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on January 07, 2015, 09:58:07 AM
From the thread: "Steam has no dedicated customer support staff. There's no outsourced CS, no internal people hired specifically for CS, nor do they hire employees with specific skill sets intended for development of things like the client or the web site. It takes days or weeks to get responses from Steam support. (...)

These aren't things the "internet knows," these are things discussed directly in the Steam thread on this forum by people who have applied for jobs at Valve, taken tours of Valve, and have direct contact with people who work for Valve. And even if all of the Valve employees did nothing but Steam support and development, the size would still be a fraction of what every similar platform has and needs to run well. Even EA's support on Origin makes Steam's look bad."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on January 07, 2015, 09:59:12 AM
Just so I don't just shit on Valve. The thread features a few examples of other AAA developers with similar problems


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 07, 2015, 10:21:16 AM
It's hard to give a shit because Steam is fucking awesome. I can ignore everything else they do because I never have to go to Egghead software again.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 07, 2015, 10:50:19 AM
Until there is some sort of Lord of the Flies event in the Valve cube-farm and we all lose our pretend shit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on January 07, 2015, 10:55:56 AM
Dirty secret, nobody cares about your working conditions if they love the product. You are choosing to work there.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 07, 2015, 10:58:56 AM
This applies to bosses as well as customers.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on January 07, 2015, 11:01:11 AM
This applies to bosses as well as customers.

Bosses care if losing people costs them money. If there's a qualified candidate line to get in the building, you're going to get treated like shit for the most part.

Sports organizations are the worst about this. They pay the office staff dick because every fan would love to work for a pro sports organization, so they can afford to treat people poorly.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on January 07, 2015, 01:07:49 PM
It's hard to give a shit because Steam is fucking awesome. I can ignore everything else they do because I never have to go to Egghead software again.

This. I've never ever had to have one interaction with Steam Support. I've had multiple interactions with Origin support and it has never fixed the problem. At work, I cannot download games on Origin anymore - it worked, then it stopped working after a patch, fixed itself at some point months beyond that, then it broke again and all interactions with Origin support send me down the same rabbit hole that has yet to work. I have to use a proxy connection to make Origin download  at work. What's even stupider is that once the game is downloaded, I'm able to play it, even multiplayer without any issues (I can also patch Origin without any issues). Meanwhile I've never had an issue with Steam at home or work.

Stack ranking sounds like the dumbest middle manager-created bullshit imaginable.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shannow on January 07, 2015, 02:06:48 PM
I was gonna say MBA wankery at its finest.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on January 07, 2015, 02:41:18 PM
Middle mangers are subject to stack ranking. So it's an executive-level idea.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MahrinSkel on January 07, 2015, 06:28:16 PM
Stack ranking is literally nothing but a way to wield the hatchet in a "10% Layoffs" situation, turned into a permanent policy. All of the bells and whistles like 360 degree reviews are all embroidery around creating a permanent culture of fear, where everyone is *constantly* maneuvering not to be caught without a seat in a never-ending game of hardcore Musical Chairs.

Of course it produces toxic cultures. That's its primary feature. In an environment where the axe is always swinging, the headsman is God.

It looks good to companies that have been through a lot of growth, especially growth by acquisition, and accumulated a lot of people that don't actually do much (and may not have anything meaningful to do), because it looks like a fair way to prune off the dead weight. But maintained for more than a year or so, it turns into something else entirely.

--Dave


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on January 07, 2015, 06:31:51 PM
Corporate policies, like government programs, have a way of existing well after their intended use and morphing into something completely unintended.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MahrinSkel on January 07, 2015, 06:52:27 PM
And it mostly is MBA wankery, when you look at the mindset that Business School cultivates (essentially a focus on market dynamics rather than products, and a constant awareness of relative performance) stack ranking is a perfect fit. Biz School attracts and molds people that focus on the politics of a business rather than what that business actually does.

To such people, the fact that someone is ridiculously, mutant-level competent at their skillset does not make up for being unsocial or even unlikeable. Of course a company where everyone is more like them will be a better company. It is literally unpossible for it to be any other way.

To the extent that it works at all, it's because stock analysts and institutional buyers are themselves Biz School types, and love the idea, so companies that go this route tend to see rising stock values. But since Valve is a private company, they don't even have that excuse.

--Dave


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on January 07, 2015, 08:06:13 PM
Biz School attracts and molds people that focus on the politics of a business rather than what that business actually does.

Accounting is an exception.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nija on January 07, 2015, 10:40:22 PM
It's kind of MBA wankery, but it's mostly the poison in the wells of the NW part of the USA.

Amazon, Microsoft, Valve, hell I bet Arenanet has some ex-MS/Amazon/ETC people working there that implemented stack ranking as well. It would explain why the team that created GW2 has virtually abandoned the product.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on January 07, 2015, 11:47:13 PM
Since we are talking about Valve, I am just going to say this:  Half-Life 3 is going to come out in X number of years, and it will be meh.  The window of opportunity is well closed at this point, because roughly 20 billion shooters have been released since HL2 and nobody really cares any more.  I mean, it will probably do well enough commercially, but it isn't going to be the one shooter to rule them all like some people still seem to be expecting.  I don't even think HL2 was particularly special, it just didn't have much credible competition.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 08, 2015, 01:00:08 AM
Disagree. Well, not that Half-Life 3 won't be meh, but that the FPS is played out. If something came out with the writing/story quality of Bloodlines or Deus Ex now, with gun/gameplay to match, it would be a big deal.

But no one seems to want to do that anymore. Mostly people just want the Aperture / Black Mesa story to intertwine. Badly. I'm among those people.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on January 08, 2015, 01:08:02 AM
I've worked for startups in the past and I don't think it's "MBA wankery" in those cases at least not at first. It's more how tech companies start and what kinds of people are in those companies.

It's just that you started off with five people - all of them being engineers - and suddenly you are a real company with payroll and accounting and 200 people and venture capital and no dedicated management staff because you just hired tech people to do cool projects with you. So now you have a company where almost no-one want to manage people or projects because no one wants to be "the bad guy" who tells people what to do or who needs to decide bonus payments or hirings/firings and also because it's much cooler to work on cool projects than to do the dreary day to day administrative stuff like project plans and meetings or making sure stuff gets done.

In those companies you get two things. You get people that carry the title "manager" that don't want to manage and would rather sit in on technical discussions than manage their staff (see John Carmack for reference). Those guys further derail projects because they can't really sit in on every technical meeting only one every other week so when they do they do more harm than good because everyone waits for their input - them being managers and shit - yet their input is crap. They also make things worse management-wise because they don't really want to do management stuff, yet have to.

You also get people who desperately want processes where the company magically "manages itself". Because everyone realizes that you need "management processes" (they've seen that things run not as smooth as they could) yet no one wants to be the one who runs things (much cooler to develop cool stuff). In such cases systems like stack ranking seem to be a great idea because you don't need a guy that decides such things since everyone does a little. Yeah! Problem solved.

All you get though is a system where there is no management and no oversight because there's nobody to manage or oversee things. A system where people are afraid of and despise hierarchy because "management, amirite?" yet desperately want the benefits of a management hierarchy because nothing ever gets done. You also can't push projects because there's no seniority because there's no management - the "you are not the boss of me" syndrome - and you can't really tell people to do stuff as a peer so everything that is boring or dull or unpopular won't get finished.

Usually those companies are years behind schedule on their main project and start a lot of new things that never get finished and sort of peter out. They also usually detonate once their funding runs out or their VC company loses interest. Or the people funding you stage a coup d'etat, oust the founders and install a management structure or sell off the company and the company detonates as most people leave for greener pastures (this company was cool but no longer is).

Unless of course you have that one early success that manages to payroll all of that insanity. Then you get Twitter or Google or 3D Realms or ID or Valve or Square etc.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 08, 2015, 02:06:34 AM
Stack Ranking is absolutely fucking MBA wankery. In fact, it's beyond MBA wankery. It's exactly the sort of practice that would be adopted by someone, most likely an executive or lead, with the most flimsy, rudimentary understanding of how competition in a closed system should exist.

All those other tech company growth issues you described at merely the logical result of hiring a bunch of spergy neckbeards who should be chained to a fucking desk and told what to do by actual adults. Add stack ranking to the mix and you have a disaster waiting to happen, massive success or not.

tl;dr: You need tl;drs. Also, Stack Ranking exists as a horrible thing outside of any other set of problems.

Edit: Also, software companies are really, REALLY terrible at firing dead weight. This is a bigger issue inside tech. The vast majority of employees at any given company are about as necessary as the 500 flavors of Keurig coffee and boutique nut jars from Ye Olde Glasses-Wearing Nuttery in the snack room.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on January 08, 2015, 02:45:17 AM
Yeah SW companies are bad at managing staff because you'd need someone to actually manage staff and determine who is "dead weight". Just like big corporate bureaucracies fire the bureaucrats last - because the bureaucrats are responsible for the firing - SW companies tend to fire the developers last because management is staffed with lots of ex-developers.

I get where stack ranking comes from. It is MBA wankery. I just think that smaler IT companies find such policies attractive because it seems - at first glance - to be the kind of "we don't really have a hierarchy here, everyone is equal" kind of system that doesn't involve a dedicated staff of "suits".


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maven on January 08, 2015, 11:50:58 AM
Biz School attracts and molds people that focus on the politics of a business rather than what that business actually does.

Accounting is an exception.

 :grin:

It gives me a warm fuzzy feeling to see Accounting mentioned in a positive manner. Third time on this forum too!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on January 08, 2015, 11:57:14 AM
I don't know any small companies that use it, though, departments are too small at small companies to use it IME.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on January 08, 2015, 02:26:40 PM
Stack ranking sounds perfect for companies with a weak culture and no real leaders.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on January 08, 2015, 02:28:07 PM
Or in other words, tech companies.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maven on January 08, 2015, 02:30:36 PM
Pretty much. One of the chief complaints at Blizzard besides a lack of advancement opportunities was a need for stronger leadership.

I don't want to work in tech again. Stack sounds terrible.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on January 08, 2015, 07:34:38 PM
In software methodology shit is basically a religion. Everyone has some exciting new process that makes making games better, only it never does.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on January 08, 2015, 07:39:21 PM
Because they aren't run like real businesses apparently.

Most businesses I've been in are extremely resistant to any change. The idea that a new process could crop up and they'd just run all-in to it on basically a whim is frankly laughable. It's not necessarily a great trait, but it's not a bad one either when it comes to making long-term decisions.

But these are mostly established companies that have been around for 30, 40, or even 100 years. My own company is almost 85 now. The problem for many start-ups is they make the same mistakes as a teenager, but on a grander scale.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MahrinSkel on January 08, 2015, 09:23:17 PM
Biz School attracts and molds people that focus on the politics of a business rather than what that business actually does.

Accounting is an exception.
Yes, they are. If it wasn't for the fact that the stats and psych that comes with Marketing is more interesting/useful, I'd probably major in Accounting (even though trying to maintain a scholarship-bait GPA would be harder). Accounting is hardcore geekery with a Biz School flavor, at least as hard as anything in computers (and probably harder at the undergrad level).

As much as more exposure to Biz School is lowering my opinion of MBA wankery (and it was hardly high to start with), it's giving me a new respect for Accounting. I'll probably fill my 300-level electives with Accounting courses. It's actually a very useful skill set.

--Dave


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maven on January 09, 2015, 06:24:22 AM
I have an extreme respect for Accounting because, in theory, it gets past all the bullshit out there and provides one of the critical backbones of any business. I tried to launch my own business without the education or interest, and now I feel the true weight of how little an idea I had about the fiscal self-reporting and discipline required for success. Also, it is a great skill anyone should have a basic understanding of that explains a lot of the financial structure of our world. Business majors are required to take basic Accounting.

There was an excellent analogy about the difficulty of game development on reddit. Building a house has plans, a time-tested process, specialized roles (subcontractors), a certain order to things, and a reasonable estimate of the time and cost involved.

Game development is an incoherent,  chaotic mess by comparison. I wish I could find the thread because it did an amazing job of breaking down each role in a project and how they conflict with each other -- especially marketing and development!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on January 09, 2015, 07:03:00 AM
Construction would be an equal mess if every construction company insisted on making all of the tools and materials necessary to build a house from scratch every time they are contracted to build a new house.

Imagine a construction company that needs five years and 140% of its alotted budget to design and build its own brickworks, their own version of AutoCAD and their own version of a backhoe or crane - each and every time they do a new construction project - while not having an architect or structural engineer (or indeed experienced construction workers) on staff and you are close to how game companies work.

SW enginering suffers greatly from "not invented here" syndrome and the fact that game engines are hard or that company X has already spent man centuries on a working netcode library hasn't stopped most companies from reinventing and reimplementing stuff from scartch in-house. Stuff that then gets thrown away and redone from scratch once the next project rolls around.

The rest stems from the fact that you can't really "see" what SW developers do and so development is constantly struggeling with controlling and project management about project plans and time budgets. If you don't budget ciorrectly and you build a shitty house every idiot can see it. If you build a shitty game it still can look sort of decent and so the general feeling by controlling is that that SW deveolpers over-estimate time when the opposite is generaly true (people tend to under-estimate the time needed for complex tasks).

A general sentiment I hear all the time from administration  is the accusation that we severely over-budget and overestimate time and money needed for completing tasks, when in SW development and engineering the opposite is tru in 90% of the time.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Teleku on January 09, 2015, 07:42:02 AM
Relevant to this conversation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azkFz1ZbXyU


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Draegan on January 09, 2015, 07:52:37 AM
I didn't want to start a new thread and I was already browsing this one. This could be a big deal if the FCC Chariman is actually serious.

http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/01/title-ii-for-internet-providers-is-all-but-confirmed-by-fcc-chairman/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goreschach on January 09, 2015, 09:52:30 AM
I'd be surprised to see them just drop something like that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 09, 2015, 10:28:42 AM
I'm going back several posts, but I submit that in almost any company: everyone already knows who is the dead weight.  Moreso in a company under 100 employees.  A ranking system just means that no one is responsible and thus is still allowed to play air hockey with their buddies because the mechanical system is what fired them.  Basically, it's what schild said: these are children and they need an adult to keep them in line.  Kids secretly crave discipline, even though they might complain (mangement SUX LOLZ 4CHAN) just take a look at how miserable they become when you just let them do whatever they want (aka it's summer break and we are tired of this schedule).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: bhodi on January 09, 2015, 11:52:27 AM
BTW, Amazon also uses (used?) stack ranking. That and the crazy 'make bezos more money' work hours was why I declined to work there.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 09, 2015, 12:53:12 PM
It's all about the Bezosmins.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Miguel on January 10, 2015, 12:33:28 PM
All you get though is a system where there is no management and no oversight because there's nobody to manage or oversee things. A system where people are afraid of and despise hierarchy because "management, amirite?" yet desperately want the benefits of a management hierarchy because nothing ever gets done. You also can't push projects because there's no seniority because there's no management - the "you are not the boss of me" syndrome - and you can't really tell people to do stuff as a peer so everything that is boring or dull or unpopular won't get finished.

A better description of Google I could not have written.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on January 10, 2015, 04:55:24 PM
In other news:

Quote
According to notices posted by the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO), the two trademark applications for Overwatch have been suspended due to a trademark filing of Overwatch by Innovis Labs, Inc. which supersedes Blizzard’s trademark application.

http://www.vg247.com/2015/01/10/blizzard-overwatch-trademark/

Whoops~


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maven on January 10, 2015, 05:23:49 PM
Not like Blizzard to drop the ball like that. However a name change would be a simple matter. Quset for Glory set the precedent.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MahrinSkel on January 10, 2015, 09:01:00 PM
They probably didn't, they took a chance that Innovis Labs (which is not in the videogames business) would not even notice the new filing and they would get their new trademark through the side door (if you don't defend your trademark, you lose it). It's actually pretty common, there are old trademark filings for virtually every common word or phrase, most of them inactive. If you actually approach the prior holders, it's guaranteed they're going to want to be paid off to release it (even if they didn't even remember they had it, or don't actually exist as a going concern), so it's common practice to simply assert the new trademark and see if you get away with it.

--Dave


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on January 10, 2015, 11:48:49 PM
Apparently they can now track concurrent players of PC Minecraft players with internet access, and off peak they had over 998k players  (https://mobile.twitter.com/Dinnerbone/status/553556703992889345).

That matches dots 2's daily peak (#1 on steam), more than double CS:GO (#2 on steam) and doesn't even count mobile and console players.

Crazy.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fordel on January 11, 2015, 11:23:37 PM
Hardly surprising. Minecraft is legion and I see no reason why it would stop.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 12, 2015, 01:36:46 AM
Considering Minecraft got sold for 2 billion dollars, I was expecting more than 1M concurrent peak users.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on January 12, 2015, 05:44:17 AM
Considering Minecraft got sold for 2 billion dollars, I was expecting more than 1M concurrent peak users.

Again, that was off peak and doesn't take in other consoles.  Around April Minecraft had sold 15 million PC sales, 12 million XB360 sales, and 3 million PS3 sales (http://venturebeat.com/2014/06/26/minecraft-sales-near-54-million-copies-as-xbox-360-and-playstation-3-versions-outsell-the-pc-original/).  Even discounting rise since then, that means the 360 had almost as many sales as PC, which means that number could be double if consoles are taken into oaccount.

Maybe you are just underrating how significant 1 million concurrent users (even peak) is, cause that is pretty massive.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 12, 2015, 05:54:40 AM
No, I am sure you are right. I just can't wrap my head around 2 billions dollars, which is 2000 million dollars. I just can't.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MahrinSkel on January 12, 2015, 10:11:47 AM
If they follow typical patterns, peak would be 3 or 4 times that, and total users roughly 5 times that.  Somewhere between 15 and 25 million.  On PC alone, not counting XBox, PS3, or Minecraft Pocket Edition.

--Dave


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nija on January 12, 2015, 10:29:21 AM
https://minecraft.net/stats

PC/Mac version
18,114,746 people have bought the game.
In the last 24 hours, 13,832 people bought the game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MahrinSkel on January 12, 2015, 11:24:00 AM
https://minecraft.net/stats

PC/Mac version
18,114,746 people have bought the game.
In the last 24 hours, 13,832 people bought the game.
If you put the total Minecraft players (all platforms) at 50M, and figure that they are on track for >$100M/year revenue for the PC version *alone* (and have already booked several hundred million from it), Microsoft got a bargain. Notch must have insisted on some pretty stringent conditionals in the contract for it to have been that cheap.

Well, they say the first billion is the hardest....

--Dave


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 12, 2015, 11:26:30 AM
Yea, the condition was probably "I want to walk away because I am literally the luckiest ginger ever to walk the earth."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goreschach on January 12, 2015, 02:01:27 PM
Yea, the condition was probably "I want to walk away because I am literally the luckiest ginger ever to walk the earth fuck these people."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fordel on January 12, 2015, 03:29:29 PM
Minecraft is forever, it's a license to print money. It's just a thing kids will have growing up the same way they have like a checkers board or actual Lego's and stuff.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on January 12, 2015, 03:42:07 PM
Minecraft is forever, it's a license to print money. It's just a thing kids will have growing up the same way they have like a checkers board or actual Lego's and stuff.

Until they take Minecraft 1 authentication servers offline and release Minecraft 2 with micro-transactions.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fordel on January 12, 2015, 04:26:15 PM
There's no need for that, they sell each box for like 20-30 a pop and have no reason to drop the price. This isn't some 500 man triple A dev team that needs funding, it's like what, 20 people working with purposefully simple models and graphics.

It's a formula that needs no fucking with to just generate stupid amounts of money for what they put into it.

This doesn't even account the merchandising, which is another money printing machine.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on January 12, 2015, 04:27:37 PM
I'm not saying they need to do that.  I'm saying if anyone can find a way to kill the golden goose, it's Microsoft.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on January 13, 2015, 12:10:31 AM
Yeah, it is to me a question of when, not if, Microsoft starts strangling its own cash cow.  They are going to want to monetize all those unlicensed mods and texture packs somehow, aren't they?

Also, a hypothesis:  If you have kids like mine, they have the PC version, a console version and a mobile version.  While each of these count as a separate box sale, they play the PC version more or less exclusively (the console and mobile versions absolutley STINK in comparison).  So the concurrent users for PC will be much, much higher as a percentage of box sales, even if console and mobile sales come close to the same level.  I'd bet a fairly large wad of cash on it actually, all the way up to 10 dollars.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 13, 2015, 01:24:50 PM
Do they still buy the shirts and figures?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on January 13, 2015, 11:39:35 PM
No shirts.  A couple of figures.  Foam rubber diamond pickaxe.  Sword, too.  Maybe I also have a battery powered Redtone block sitting on my nightstand.  That sort of thing.

The big thing now is that my wife likes to pretend that our kids love legos (she loves them more but will not admit it), and what would be better than Minecraft Lego?  The kids kind of role their eyes when they get them, because fuck Minecraft Legos when you could be playing Minecraft instead.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bunk on January 14, 2015, 07:58:35 AM
I actually like the XBone version of Minecraft, as I actually like the mostly unmodded version of the game. MS shit the bed though in releasing it without taking advantage of their cloud servers. Currently, the only way to have a persistent server is to have one person leave their console running it 24/7. If they come up with servers, I'll be all over Minecraft from the couch.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bungee on January 14, 2015, 08:59:33 AM
Napoleonic Age of Sail sims are about as niche as you can get, but this one is quite easy on the eyes.

http://www.navalaction.com/

(Seen at RPS.)

Totally going to try that one. Always wondered why there wasn't a PotBS style MOBA.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on January 14, 2015, 12:54:54 PM
Does it still count as a necro if you quote something that's a year old in an active thread?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 14, 2015, 02:11:28 PM
Reanimated dogs and cats living together, is what that is.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on January 14, 2015, 08:23:08 PM
Reanimated dogs and cats living together, is what that is.

You almost sounded like a Brit when you said that!  Almost.  To sound perfectly Brit like from Leeds or sommat, you would have said, "Reanimated dogs and cats living together, is what that is, that is".


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 15, 2015, 07:14:28 AM
Too right.

I can barely do my own accent.  Others are just out of the question.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maven on January 19, 2015, 09:06:55 AM
I didn't think I'd get into a mobile game, but I apparently have a weakness for smoothly animated, highly responsive stick-figure martial arts titles.

If you have a chance, give One Finger Death Punch a spin. It's pretty chop-socky good.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: murdoc on January 19, 2015, 09:36:13 AM
 Sid Meier's Starships! (http://www.gamespot.com/articles/firaxis-reveals-new-interstellar-strategy-game-sid/1100-6424728/)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bunk on January 19, 2015, 10:13:58 AM
Turn-based strategy game launching this year for PC, Mac, and iPad

 :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on January 19, 2015, 10:28:15 AM
The Sid Meier Seal of Quality.

"Yep, that's a game."



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on January 19, 2015, 10:45:22 AM
Gotta pay those interns  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on January 19, 2015, 10:48:22 AM
Turn-based strategy game launching this year for PC, Mac, and iPad

 :oh_i_see:

Well, now you at least know it won't have any interface issues or problems with tactical depth.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on January 19, 2015, 10:53:19 AM
 :ye_gods: How many more dollars can they scrape from this?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on January 19, 2015, 11:32:30 AM
XCom had an iPad version too and was a great game, from the same company. And Beyond Earth didn't have an iPad version and faceplanted.  :why_so_serious: Let's not get too worried yet.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on January 19, 2015, 02:01:58 PM
So, HuniePop. What will our intrepid forumers do? I can foresee at least a couple of flamewars and something something rk47.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on January 19, 2015, 02:34:45 PM
Never heard of it. Looks great. Bought the non-Steam version for real H scenes.

Edit:
(http://i.imgur.com/snqkzZu.jpg)

This is going to be awesome.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 19, 2015, 03:16:44 PM
Insta-buy! (Lies, I have too many unplayed games, I am gonna wait a bit for this. Like... 18 hours).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tmp on January 19, 2015, 03:40:56 PM
So, HuniePop. What will our intrepid forumers do? I can foresee at least a couple of flamewars and something something rk47.
The writing and VA in that one sound rather... painful. The artwork seems nice, but is there actually anything more there than bejeweled clone attached to sexy pics? At a glance can't shake off a feeling it's trying to ride the controversy wave because it has little else to offer.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on January 19, 2015, 04:03:37 PM
I ain't gonna lie, trashy and porny sounds pretty good in the sea of boredom that is gaming in 2015.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Daeven on January 19, 2015, 04:04:31 PM
There's a dedicated Neogaf thread discussing the fact that Steam has no dedicated customer service staff or backend developers so I'd guess it's mostly the latter (poor focus) although I guess that Valve makes more than enough money with Steam, Dota, CS:GO and Team Fortress that they don't reallyfeel the pressure to change anything either.

I also imagine working on CS or steam's backend isn't sexy enough that your co-workers won't notice, and thus you'll end up at the end of the stack ranking (cause no one cares what you are working on).  So in fact Valve's own culture prevents people from trying to improve those things.

Bingo. Stack ranking = Corporate Death. 'well, it kinds sounds like a good idea... ' said some MBA who'd never, ever written a line of code.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goreschach on January 19, 2015, 04:48:06 PM
There's a dedicated Neogaf thread discussing the fact that Steam has no dedicated customer service staff or backend developers so I'd guess it's mostly the latter (poor focus) although I guess that Valve makes more than enough money with Steam, Dota, CS:GO and Team Fortress that they don't reallyfeel the pressure to change anything either.

I also imagine working on CS or steam's backend isn't sexy enough that your co-workers won't notice, and thus you'll end up at the end of the stack ranking (cause no one cares what you are working on).  So in fact Valve's own culture prevents people from trying to improve those things.

Bingo. Stack ranking = Corporate Death. 'well, it kinds sounds like a good idea... ' said some MBA who'd never, ever written a line of code.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/246580/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on January 19, 2015, 08:35:40 PM
someone just gifted me huniepop. who the fuck was that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on January 19, 2015, 08:37:29 PM
LOL. Too bad it's the censored version.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on January 19, 2015, 09:13:46 PM
I'm not sure I understand this game.  Is it a single player game for men or a mmo for men who want dates or... what is it?  What is an H scene?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on January 19, 2015, 09:37:50 PM
LOL. Too bad it's the censored version.


I will bet one million dollars that there is a workaround for that.

I'm not sure I understand this game.  Is it a single player game for men or a mmo for men who want dates or... what is it?  What is an H scene?

As far as I cal tell, it's some kind of combination puzzle game / dating sim.
H = Hentai, which is the Japanese label for "perverted" material ranging from "girls in their underwear" to the most gruesome shit you can imagine (but with more tentacles).  Since this is on Steam I'm assuming the base version is fairly tame, but I'm not sure.  A copy floated my way but I suspect it's one of those games I'll never play since all my family members who are on Steam will get "KAIL IS NOW PLAYING [CREEPY GAME]" notifications every time I boot it up.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on January 19, 2015, 09:44:35 PM
Make another Steam account and gift it to that one.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on January 20, 2015, 08:27:31 AM
I'm not sure I understand this game.  Is it a single player game for men or a mmo for men who want dates or... what is it?  What is an H scene?
It's a single player game; the base is a dating sim. You have stats to raise (flirtation, romance, etc.) and gifts to buy each of the ladies. When you actually ask them out on a date, you play a Bejeweled variant to see how the date goes. Score high enough and your relationship advances to the next stage; fail and you have to try again tomorrow. After 4 successful dates, you take the woman back to your apartment and play a high speed match-three to have sex.

There are a bunch of unlocks like different outfits and hairstyles, sexy pics, new characters.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on January 20, 2015, 09:20:51 AM
...i finally won a game after losing the first real date.
goddamn.
i was so tense.
like i was in a real date.
fuck yeah.
i think im ready for real dates nao.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on January 20, 2015, 09:32:29 AM
emergent gameplay!  :thumbs_up: :google:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on January 20, 2015, 10:30:53 AM
...i finally won a game after losing the first real date.
goddamn.
i was so tense.
like i was in a real date.
fuck yeah.
i think im ready for real dates nao.
Make sure to use lines from the game like "What cup size you rockin'?"


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 20, 2015, 11:20:18 AM
LOL

So many LOL


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on January 20, 2015, 12:06:12 PM
Ok, I get it.  It's a SIMULATION and at the end of the day, you're still a frustrated, lonely loser in real life.  Not you lot, of course.  I'm sure every single one of you has a supermodel entourage.  Sky probably still even has groupies.  Well, I like to think of guys that way.  It makes me happy.

If I play this game, it'll probably be the censored Steam version unless there's some real reason not to.  It's not that I object to sex/porn/hentai-ew in games but it just annoys me.  Personally, that is.  You guys have at it!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on January 20, 2015, 03:54:38 PM
I tried dating this mexican chick, but mid way in convo she got hungry.
After referring to her biodata, which says fruits and veggies, i deduced that she must like watermelons. According to popular meme this is what person of such color prefers as fruit of choice.
Turns out I was wrong, not all brown are the same. My steam friend made fun of me for thinking Afro-american and Mexican as the same thing.

'Goddamn azn, can't you tell the difference?'
'They all look the same lah!'


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on January 20, 2015, 03:56:37 PM
You need to do a "Let's Play" or "But Is It Fun?" on this game. STAT.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on January 20, 2015, 04:05:19 PM
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/829607/work/hnnngh.png)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 20, 2015, 04:14:10 PM
RECREATIONAL DRUG USE? OH LAWDY, RATED M FOR UHDULTS.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 20, 2015, 04:17:58 PM
Is there a professional drug use that I don't know about?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on January 20, 2015, 04:19:02 PM
Professional sport athletes?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 20, 2015, 04:23:45 PM
Is there a professional drug use that I don't know about?
Professional sport athletes?


I've been waiting nearly 20 years to get my energy from snorting Jose Canseco.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on January 20, 2015, 06:39:32 PM
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This email message will serve as your receipt. You can also access your Purchase History online at any time.
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0.45 SGD

Super Good Dollars.
YEAAAAAH  :drill:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Teleku on January 20, 2015, 07:19:04 PM
The game that keeps on giving!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 20, 2015, 09:48:39 PM
rk47 is gonna come out of this game up $1.35.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on January 20, 2015, 09:53:28 PM
That's not the only thing coming up.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on January 21, 2015, 07:58:48 AM
Lunch?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on January 21, 2015, 10:57:26 AM
I guess The Escapist, GameFront, and Game Trailers have laid people off today.

Also yes I am surprised that the last two still exist.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maven on January 21, 2015, 12:03:33 PM
I have trouble with the Escapist. I tried to look beyond Yahtzee's material, but the site is bloated, and I dislike the other presenters, especially Jim Sterling


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on January 21, 2015, 12:05:25 PM
Jim Sterling is great, and doing his own gig now, I think.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on January 21, 2015, 12:05:43 PM
I used to watch Yahtzee a lot, he was pretty funny. Never wandered anywhere else on the site.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on January 21, 2015, 12:16:29 PM
I liked Jim Sterling, too.  For some reason it hadn't registered until just now that I hadn't seen them post a new Jimquisition in a while.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on January 21, 2015, 12:36:07 PM
He went on patreon and is making like $10k a month now. Well, 10k - Patreon's cut - whatever hilariously obscene taxes he has to pay.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 21, 2015, 12:40:38 PM
Weird Facts: In an alternate universe, Joe Blancato and I ran the Escapist. In this universe, I turned that down hard.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on January 21, 2015, 01:01:34 PM
Weird Facts: In an alternate universe, Joe Blancato and I ran the Escapist. In this universe, I turned that down hard.

What is wrong with the Escapist?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 21, 2015, 01:07:48 PM
If I'd wanted to elaborate, I would have. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on January 21, 2015, 01:38:39 PM
Useless gaming chatter indeed, sir!  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on January 21, 2015, 03:12:57 PM
I don't even look at GameFront or GameTrailers so I have no idea who got canned from there, but basically most of the editors from The Escapist got shitcanned along with MovieBob.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on January 21, 2015, 03:17:22 PM
I used to watch MovieBob too now than you mention him, until he got all SJW-preachy.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on January 21, 2015, 03:23:00 PM
I gave up on him when everything become weird tangents on social issues.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on January 21, 2015, 04:24:53 PM
Yep. If I wanted to watch content about social issues, I would not be watching movie reviews.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on January 21, 2015, 04:59:00 PM
Weird Facts: In an alternate universe, Joe Blancato and I ran the Escapist. In this universe, I turned that down hard.

What is wrong with the Escapist?

The owner/publisher guy is well known to be a total douchebag if I recall correctly.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 21, 2015, 05:06:41 PM
And I quote from Joe who saw this thread:
Quote
Oh god don't tell anyone


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on January 21, 2015, 06:18:46 PM
Something something AGDC?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 21, 2015, 06:20:22 PM
Had nothing to do with AGDC.

This was definitely 2005. I had been out of college for a hot second.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on January 21, 2015, 08:47:55 PM
I have a 3DS Monster Hunter 4 Demo code if anyone wants.  PM me.  

Edit: Mods/longstanding members will get preference.


Gone!  Enjoy!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on January 22, 2015, 05:49:21 AM
I don't even look at GameFront or GameTrailers so I have no idea who got canned from there, but basically most of the editors from The Escapist got shitcanned along with MovieBob.

Reading a thread it does look like people are being let go for "budget reasons."

Looks like the Editor in Chief Greg Tito got shown the door. Guy under him got the job. Looks like the parent company is trying to stop the bleeding or squeeze out what they can from remaining staff. Which is always dumb unless you think those staff were pointless and useless. In that case, you'd hire their replacements. And he's the 5th editor in the time the site's been up, which is kind of funny.

I remember applying to the Escapist back when I had just started writing, but I had no real portfolio of content at the time. I'm sorta glad I didn't get it and went the sports way instead.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on January 22, 2015, 06:53:05 AM
I guess The Escapist, GameFront, and Game Trailers have laid people off today.

Also yes I am surprised that the last two still exist.

I knew that gametrailers existed because of their hilariously awful commercials that always played before comedy central streams. Let's just say that those commercials made it absolutely certain that I would nevr visit the site.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bunk on January 22, 2015, 07:09:01 AM
Watched a trailer on the xbox last night for the new Fable game. Looks like a complete and utter disappointment, but there was one interesting thing in it:

Cross system multiplayer between Xbox1 and Windows 10.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on January 22, 2015, 07:09:12 AM
Escapist for me has the same problems that most "media sites" have (everything Gawker, Buzzfeed etc.) and that the AV club doesn't which is why I frequent the latter and not the former.

Bloat, advertorials, content management and website navigation devised by a habitual drunk with mental issues full of "this one easy trick doctors hate" crap (aka io9) where you won't be able to find the 'original content' even if you still cared and hadn't closed that particular browser window 5 minutes ago. They also suffer from 'I'll turn everything I write into a platform for my own opinion on stuff' and basically turned everything into op eds, regardless of content or type of content. If you do a review, do a review, don't make it about "the bazillion things I don't like about AAA gaming, now also in this  review'. They also break stuff by design to push people into watching ads/paying for 'subscriptions' that's why the Escapist still has a flash based video player even though no one uses it anymore, just so that they can 'sell' you on a HTML5 player by subscribing. In a 'we'll make your experience on this site a littly less shitty if you pay' us kind of deal.

Basically they are sites that claim to be about certain topics and use that pretense to give you mostly broken crap paid for by advertisers or they pretend to give you original content just so that they can tun it into their pesronal platform to talk about "issues in x". Not that this is per se bad if it comes in form of a column named "my problem with x" but becomes very annoying if it shows up in every video/review and content.

I'm not surprised that they have to lay of people. I'm more surprised that they still exist.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maven on January 22, 2015, 07:12:47 AM
(http://www.erikmarinovich.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Fot-EM-Hell-Yes-Web-04-1250x1049.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 22, 2015, 07:23:16 AM
Looks like the parent company is trying to stop the bleeding or squeeze out what they can from remaining staff. Which is always dumb unless you think those staff were pointless and useless. In that case, you'd hire their replacements.

This is a trend in business now.  More with less is the ideal, but there is a definite drawback to the process.  Probably not in this case, though. :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on January 22, 2015, 07:59:54 AM
It's almost like gaming journalism is bad.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 22, 2015, 08:24:42 AM
There's less and less jobs in all business and industries. And more and more humans. We are seriously doomed. We could use a virus that doesn't kill people but make everyone infertile forever.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on January 22, 2015, 09:04:09 AM
I've seen that movie.  It ends poorly.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 22, 2015, 10:43:33 AM
There's a movie too? Watching a British 2 seasons weird show that turned out to be about this...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on January 22, 2015, 10:45:47 AM
There's a movie too? Watching a British 2 seasons weird show that turned out to be about this...

Children of Men.  No virus (not that I remember), but no babies.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on January 22, 2015, 11:24:22 AM
Rasix in one.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fordel on January 22, 2015, 03:10:12 PM
Children of Men is a fantastic if depressing movie.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 22, 2015, 05:11:57 PM
Just hit Steam Early Access. Looks cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZXwxvnjz6c

Fellow boardgamers, buy or not buy?

Got it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 22, 2015, 06:36:53 PM
I will probably be buying it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on January 22, 2015, 08:54:36 PM
Kinda wanna buy Toxikk now that its out on Early Access.

But...Early Access.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 22, 2015, 09:03:12 PM
I'm still down for a 4pack if someone wants me to just send them my share.

I don't wanna distribute it, I'm lazy.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on January 27, 2015, 07:47:29 AM
AOL Likely rolling up Joystiq. (http://www.joystiq.com/2015/01/27/joystiq-closing-shop/)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on January 27, 2015, 08:42:22 AM
That is a humorous spin on it whether true or not.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 28, 2015, 10:31:31 AM
Too early to tell, but we might have found a new game for rk47 to Radicalthon.  :awesome_for_real:

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3584773/HYPNgame%2002.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 29, 2015, 07:37:37 AM
Whoa! Fahrenheit: Indigo Prophecy Remastered HD just released on Steam! Whoever missed it has no excuses now!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on January 29, 2015, 07:42:44 AM
I'm not sure I'm willing to put up with another David Cage plot.  I've heard this one really goes off the rails at the end.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 29, 2015, 07:50:28 AM
Yet this is the best David Cage game ever, and a very good one in its own. One of the best story driven games I've ever played. EDIT: Saying this is the perfect way to set up expectations which will of course be failed horribly.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ard on January 29, 2015, 08:29:59 AM
It goes extremely far off the rails, but I think that's why I enjoyed it so much.  I like weird games though, just not RK level weird  :pedobear:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on January 29, 2015, 10:20:19 AM
The ending of Indigo Prophecy was pretty out there.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 29, 2015, 10:35:45 AM
Which ending?  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 29, 2015, 02:03:31 PM
Neat, GOTY material already:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/312840/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on January 29, 2015, 02:06:47 PM
Games industry is so exciting and innovative.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Setanta on January 29, 2015, 11:03:28 PM
Just hit Steam Early Access. Looks cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZXwxvnjz6c

Fellow boardgamers, buy or not buy?

Got it.

I did too - but there's a lot of angst about the Weasel Clan and the fact that only kickstarter backers can get it. I wouldn't mind if it was only skins but it's different stats for the clan plus some really neat looking characters. They should have taken a leaf from LoL and HotS and maybe made special borders/player icons  etc to denote that you were a backer/tester. Still they might extract themselves from it, apparently a lot of the backers are in favour of releasing the clan as DLC.

It really is a beautiful game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 30, 2015, 12:42:03 AM
Armello!  :heart:

I have been very active on the forums trying to tell the Developers what's not right about the game. It looks beautiful and plays well, but there's plenty design decisions that are weird and for the sake of simplicity -which is great- make the game too much RNG dependent or completely toothless. They keep saying there's less than half the cards in the game yet, and lots of things are being reconsidered and tweaked, which makes me hope. In all honesty, I already like it so much that I play more than I should for am Early Access, even versus the AI. But I feel that they have a true gem in their hands and I really hope they won't overlook the obvious issues and waste such a great opportunity.

All in all, I strongly recommend it, but I can't deny there's a feeling of blandness here and there (underwhelming dungeons, questionable hand size, Prestige Win being dominant, some cards being stupidly OP while some other being such a waste of time, RNG too much of a factor) that they better fix soon.

About the Bandit Clan heroes, I don't mind. I understand it was a silly Kickstarter promise and they can't take it back without coming off as liars and alienating those original backers. It's that simple, and the sooner we move on the better. There are going to be another 4 public heroes anyway, and I am sure plenty DLCs, so *shrug*


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on January 30, 2015, 12:48:31 AM

About the Bandit Clan heroes, I don't mind.

It's a mistake to not sell it as DLC.  They will lose sales over that idea.  It's best to honor their KS promises to their users, but I have to imagine they're kicking themselves over it now. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 30, 2015, 12:50:14 AM
I totally agree with you.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on January 30, 2015, 09:52:33 AM
Hey, remember when Sega used to make console games?  Well, they're not going to now. 

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/sega-cutting-300-jobs-as-it-prepares-for-digital-non-console-future/0144528 (http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/sega-cutting-300-jobs-as-it-prepares-for-digital-non-console-future/0144528)
300 jobs cut, including everything from Sega of America's home office as far as I can see.  Sega's going to exclusively focus exclusively on mobile and online PC games.  Allegedly it's because Sonic Boom bombed (who could possibly have seen THAT coming).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on January 30, 2015, 12:01:24 PM
Shit, they own Atlus. :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on January 30, 2015, 02:41:42 PM
And Relic.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on January 30, 2015, 03:06:37 PM
And in other, other news, AOL is apparently tired of blog journalism and is shutting down Massively and Joystiq on February 3rd, mentioned on the former today in a post that was immediately buried under random newsposts and the latter not at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVXJmfd3cmg


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on January 30, 2015, 03:38:03 PM
Wierd; I actually use Massively as my mmo popular news site.  Bummer.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 30, 2015, 03:42:08 PM
Websites like that shut down paper magazines. What is shutting them down? Twitter?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on January 30, 2015, 03:54:23 PM
Bots (http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/01/30/aol-programmatic-layoffs-ad-sales/22594973/).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 30, 2015, 05:01:26 PM
Can Gawker shut down next? That'd be great.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on January 30, 2015, 05:44:52 PM
You wish. These days Gawker is a "legit" news source. I've even seen the fuckers cited in local evening news stories.

Yes, that terrifies me, too.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on January 30, 2015, 05:45:58 PM
Deadspin is part of that whole thing, which I like.

But yeah it's insane how legit they've become from a media standpoint.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Evildrider on January 30, 2015, 09:33:00 PM
Wierd; I actually use Massively as my mmo popular news site.  Bummer.

Yeah this was pretty much the only place I went for MMO news. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on January 30, 2015, 09:43:21 PM
And yet Shingy is still employed.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Zetor on January 30, 2015, 10:26:11 PM
Yeah, Massively was the only mmo news site that didn't suck donkey balls (and occasionally had good content, even). Oh well.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on January 31, 2015, 12:59:13 AM
I actually liked Joystiq's RSS feed. Not for quality or anything, but it was one place that consolidate games news in one place that wasn't a eyefucker like Kotaku.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 31, 2015, 11:28:33 AM
Massively is pretty terrible also. Anything that's good in gaming journalism is only "good" relative to the total shit of its competitors.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maven on January 31, 2015, 11:42:26 AM
The events that happen in gaming are so insignificant, honestly only kids froth over it. It's celebrity gossip and uncritical wanking over some overblown tech or personality news development.

I wonder if the people who work gaming simply couldn't cut it in the real world, like a rock band that makes music for children.

Cynical today! I'm in the right place.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on February 02, 2015, 01:57:11 PM
Besiege is pretty awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUnjxftU6r0&app=desktop


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 02, 2015, 02:16:29 PM
Wat


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on February 02, 2015, 02:17:38 PM
What the fuck did I just watch and where can I get some?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on February 02, 2015, 02:20:33 PM
Bought that yesterday. It's pretty fun. You can make some pretty crazy machines, but most of the time I just get them blown up. Which is also fun in its own way.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/346010/

Very little content so far, but it is very polished.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on February 02, 2015, 03:23:49 PM
Hot damn.

(http://i.imgur.com/iHAUXDl.gif)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 02, 2015, 03:31:39 PM
So close to being a Battle Bots game.

Yet, so very far.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on February 03, 2015, 10:50:21 AM
Holy shit, it's like Bridge Construction Set except you're trying to kill the people instead of not kill the people.  Want.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 04, 2015, 07:36:51 AM
Ready to dump some money on the remake of Ultima Underworld, by Origin Veteran and author of the originals Paul Neurath?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsYCbatkiKY&feature=em-uploademail

http://www.underworldascendant.com/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on February 04, 2015, 07:45:53 AM
Why yes, yes I am.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Teleku on February 04, 2015, 08:12:59 AM
Ohh, thanks for the heads up on that!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: murdoc on February 04, 2015, 08:18:24 AM
Oh no... oh oh oh no.

This will severely test my 'no more kick starting video games' resolution.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jth on February 04, 2015, 11:44:38 AM
I backed it earlier today when I came home from work, it was at ~50k then. Now it's past 100k. Not bad for the first day.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on February 04, 2015, 12:53:29 PM
Considering Ultima Underworld II  is my favourite CRPG ever, I think I might back this one (all praise Paul Neurath)  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 04, 2015, 01:50:05 PM
(all praise Paul Neurath)  :why_so_serious:

Speaking of whom (?), I would back up even quicker a proper remake of Space Rogue.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maven on February 04, 2015, 10:13:08 PM
I've been tooling around with mobile games since getting my Android.

An updated Theme Hospital or porting over that Prison Management game would be great for the platform. I could not see the power of Hearthstone when I was on the project until it was released for tablets.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on February 05, 2015, 01:16:29 AM
Besiege is pretty awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUnjxftU6r0&app=desktop

Damn it - this game is fantastic.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on February 05, 2015, 07:13:56 AM
Persona 5 PS4 trailer is a masterpiece.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc_9r4wifFc


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 05, 2015, 07:36:37 AM
SUDDENLY I'M SO HAPPY I GOT A PS4! (Even though this is coming out for PS3 too).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on February 05, 2015, 07:40:29 AM
Considering Ultima Underworld II  is my favourite CRPG ever, I think I might back this one (all praise Paul Neurath)  :why_so_serious:

Me, too! 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on February 05, 2015, 10:00:24 AM
Persona 5 PS4 trailer is a masterpiece.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc_9r4wifFc

So... much... want.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on February 05, 2015, 03:27:54 PM
Confession: I never played any of the previous Personas.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on February 05, 2015, 03:39:46 PM
That is something you should fix.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MahrinSkel on February 05, 2015, 05:21:42 PM
What the fuck did I just watch and where can I get some?
I think Fantastic Contraption had angry sex with Warcraft. I definitely saw a robot hate-fucking a small cottage.

--Dave


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Teleku on February 06, 2015, 01:34:54 AM
Confession: I never played any of the previous Personas.
Ditto.  Keep meaning to, but I'm easily distracted.  Also doesn't help the older ones are all on PS2, which I don't have.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on February 06, 2015, 01:42:34 AM
Short of buying a Vita (which would go a bit far) it's actually quite hard to play any of the old Personas (even 4) without resorting to emulation and illegal downloads.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 06, 2015, 02:07:26 AM
Unless you have one of the awesome first PS3s, which had PS2 emulation hardware. Great stuff.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 06, 2015, 02:09:12 AM
Unless you have one of the awesome first PS3s, which had PS2 emulation hardware. Great stuff.
Or two of them. #ihave3ps3s


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 06, 2015, 02:13:27 AM
It's ridiculous that up to the PS2 and 2008 we had all the Shin Megami Tensei games up to Persona 4, and then pretty much nothing for the PS3 and nothing at all on the PS4 at least until December 2015. Console gaming is so disappointing these days.

Interesting fact. Wikipedia says the North American PSN has Persona 4 available (ported?) for the PS3. Is it true?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 06, 2015, 02:38:03 AM
Persona 4 (https://store.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/#!/en-us/games/shin-megami-tensei-persona-4/cid=UP9000-NPUD21782_00-0000000000000000)
Persona 3 Fes (https://store.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/#!/en-us/games/shin-megami-tensei-persona-3-fes/cid=UP9000-NPUD21621_00-0000000000000000)
Persona 2 (https://store.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/#!/en-us/games/persona2-eternal-punishment-%28ps3-psp-ps-vita%29/cid=UP9000-NPUJ01158_00-0000000000000001)
Digital Devil Saga (https://store.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/#!/en-us/games/shin-megami-tensei-digital-devil-saga/cid=UP9000-NPUD20974_00-0000000000000000)
Digital Devil Saga Pt 2 (https://store.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/#!/en-us/games/shin-megami-tensei-digital-devil-saga2/cid=UP9000-NPUD21152_00-0000000000000000)
Nocturne (https://store.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/#!/en-us/games/shin-megami-tensei-nocturne/cid=UP9000-NPUD20911_00-0000000000000000)

It's really not hard to play Persona games on a new PS3. On a PS4 it doesn't even begin to become an option.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 06, 2015, 03:08:40 AM
This is awesome! I actually have all of them in the original boxes, but it's good to know that they'd work on a newer PS3 too.

Except for..

Quote
This title has been converted from the original PlayStation®2 version to the PS3™ system. Consequently, there may be times where the title plays differently from the PlayStation®2 version, or where some features may not function properly.

 :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 06, 2015, 03:25:48 AM
Every single PS2 digital release for the PS2 says that. I've NEVER encountered it on any title. But then... I have first run PS3s so who the fuck knows.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on February 06, 2015, 03:34:12 AM
Also not available in the EU


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 06, 2015, 03:50:34 AM
Persona 3 FES (https://store.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/#!/it-it/giochi/shin-megami-tensei-persona3-fes/cid=EP0005-NPED00271_00-GPERSONA3F000001) should be available for PS3 in the EU apparently. MUST BUY if you haven't played it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Teleku on February 06, 2015, 03:50:43 AM
I think I've asked this like, 10 times before, but I'll ask it again because I'm to lazy to search.  Is it in any way better to play the games from oldest to newest (like, I guess I'd start at Persona 2 and work my way up).  Or do they have absoutly nothing to do with each other, like Final Fantasy?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 06, 2015, 03:52:56 AM
Nothing to do with each other (except for Digital Devil Saga part 1 and 2). Pick whichever. My favourites are Persona 3 and Digital Devil Saga, but they all have that SMT feel you are gonna become intoxicated with.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tmp on February 06, 2015, 04:27:07 AM
I think I've asked this like, 10 times before, but I'll ask it again because I'm to lazy to search.  Is it in any way better to play the games from oldest to newest (like, I guess I'd start at Persona 2 and work my way up).  Or do they have absoutly nothing to do with each other, like Final Fantasy?
They share similar concepts with one another like Final Fantasy series but there's occasional cameos/references to characters from older installments in the more recent ones, so going in chronological order makes a bit of sense. Also should help to gradually ease you into the concepts added later, as opposed to dumping bunch of features on you that you might find yourself missing in the older titles.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on February 06, 2015, 06:40:22 AM
I think I've asked this like, 10 times before, but I'll ask it again because I'm to lazy to search.  Is it in any way better to play the games from oldest to newest (like, I guess I'd start at Persona 2 and work my way up).  Or do they have absoutly nothing to do with each other, like Final Fantasy?
For Persona, 1 and 2 are nothing like 3 and 4; I would start with 3 FES but starting with 4 is fine.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on February 06, 2015, 09:21:51 AM
Pesrona 3 is such gaming nirvana, even if you don't finish it, you owe it to yourself to play it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on February 06, 2015, 12:02:50 PM
If I hate JRPGs, will I hate Persona/SMT? Mostly what I hate is the combat in most of them, if that helps.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 06, 2015, 12:07:13 PM
If I hate JRPGs, will I hate Persona/SMT? Mostly what I hate is the combat in most of them, if that helps.
It's Pokemon for adults mixed with the logical and sometimes illogical extremes of Final Fantasy VI when it started getting dark.

If you hate JRPGs, I can't see a world where you like Shin Megami Tensei. I would, however, say that Atlus picked up where Square left off prior to Final Fantasy VII. They've been improving whereas Square has ONLY gotten worse.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on February 06, 2015, 12:08:48 PM
If I hate JRPGs, will I hate Persona/SMT? Mostly what I hate is the combat in most of them, if that helps.
Combat is still turn based, so if that's a deal breaker then you'll hate it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on February 06, 2015, 12:53:07 PM
Well, to be more specific, is it turn-based in the way FF games usually are (your guys are standing there, their guys are standing there, give orders and watch what happens) or is there a tactical element as well? Positioning, movement, etc.?

In general I *like* turn-based combat (I love Fire Emblem for example) but there needs to be a movement element involved.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 06, 2015, 01:03:28 PM
SMT is basically Pokemon for adults, and everything that comes with that concept (more, varied creatures with more, varied nuances among them).

Persona is a more hip, streamlined version of SMT.

I can't say if you hate JRPGs that you'll like it. I can't say that you'll hate it either. Persona 3, 4, Digital Devil Saga, and Nocturne are better than Fire Emblem by an obscene margin though, that's for damn sure (and I liked Fire Emblem).

Edit: Basically, you liking Fire Emblem throws out my statement above of you not liking these because they are JRPGs. But it doesn't guarantee likability either.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on February 06, 2015, 01:12:16 PM
Well, to be more specific, is it turn-based in the way FF games usually are (your guys are standing there, their guys are standing there, give orders and watch what happens) or is there a tactical element as well? Positioning, movement, etc.?

In general I *like* turn-based combat (I love Fire Emblem for example) but there needs to be a movement element involved.
No movement or positioning, but elemental attacks, status effects and stat buffs/debuffs matter an order of magnitude more than they do in FF.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Zetor on February 06, 2015, 02:35:31 PM
The SMT games have several subgenres too... my favorites are the 'pure' dungeon crawlers (Nocturne, Strange Journey, probably the other mainline SMT games whenever I get to play them) and the SRPG-likes (Devil Survivor 1-2). The Persona games didn't stick with me much.

e: if you like Fire Emblem, take a look at Devil Survivor in particular


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 07, 2015, 02:27:46 AM
Sunless Sea just left Early Access and it's now a real, complete game. Go get it. (And prepare to read a lot).
Also, another example of Kickstarter went well. They asked for 60k£ (roughly $90k), got 100k£ ($150k) , delvered a fantastic game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhIk2PqPU3o


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goreschach on February 07, 2015, 10:47:38 AM
Sunless Sea just left Early Access and it's now a real, complete game. Go get it. (And prepare to read a lot).
Also, another example of Kickstarter went well. They asked for 60k£ (roughly $90k), got 100k£ ($150k) , delvered a fantastic game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhIk2PqPU3o

Looks cool but that does not look like a $20 game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on February 07, 2015, 11:27:25 AM
I'd have been happy paying $30 for it and I've spent far more on worse games.  It's great, though there's a lot of reading.  You really have to take time to understand options.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 07, 2015, 11:48:42 AM
It's a very good game. It's clealry not for everyone since it is mostly about reading, You have to love to read. If you have don't ever pick up books anymore in your life, just forget about it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on February 07, 2015, 01:06:19 PM
I find that it has a really interesting psycological dynamic on me, where I spend time at port reading and assessing situations, then making choices.  It's really thoughtful and mellow at port.  However, hitting the seas and all the sudden something happens and supplies are gone.  Then shit gets real tense.  Can I make it to port before I eat a crewmember?  Do I have enough money to even buy supplies? 

It's not hard to lose an hour in what feels like five minutes.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on February 07, 2015, 07:47:24 PM
I find that it has a really interesting psycological dynamic on me, where I spend time at port reading and assessing situations, then making choices.  It's really thoughtful and mellow at port.  However, hitting the seas and all the sudden something happens and supplies are gone.  Then shit gets real tense.  Can I make it to port before I eat a crewmember?  Do I have enough money to even buy supplies? 

It's not hard to lose an hour in what feels like five minutes.

I enjoy it quite a bit. But the game begs to be on my iPad.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on February 09, 2015, 08:59:13 AM
I find that it has a really interesting psycological dynamic on me, where I spend time at port reading and assessing situations, then making choices.  It's really thoughtful and mellow at port.  However, hitting the seas and all the sudden something happens and supplies are gone.  Then shit gets real tense.  Can I make it to port before I eat a crewmember?  Do I have enough money to even buy supplies? 

It's not hard to lose an hour in what feels like five minutes.

I enjoy it quite a bit. But the game begs to be on my iPad.

Jesus Christ, if Sunless Sea hits mobile, I'll never get any work done again.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Triforcer on February 13, 2015, 07:59:01 AM
Majora's Mask 3D out today!  If you have a 3DS and do not buy this, you are probably some sort of communist.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 13, 2015, 11:37:01 AM
Something.... Perosna 5 related is going on here. Sorry evryone, I am severly jet lagged so I don't make much sense. Also, I am on your same timezone (pretty much). Weird.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS3JXMfiLRQ


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on February 13, 2015, 12:05:20 PM
Godus posts moved to the actual Godus topic (http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=24555.0).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on February 13, 2015, 12:43:53 PM
Also, I am on your same timezone (pretty much). Weird.
Welcome back to North America?

No naked pictures in public places.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 13, 2015, 12:47:36 PM
I am in Vail, Colorado. I feel they could arrest me here just because I'm too tall. Or have too much beard. It's scary, feels like the ultimate fortress of white capitalism.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maven on February 13, 2015, 12:48:09 PM
RPS interview was great. I really don't think Peter Molyneux understands why people are taking issue with him which I don't find that surprising. That interview conveys the impression of a psychologically broken man.

It is amazing how he keeps jabbering at the interviewer with all this irrelevant information in what looks like an attempt to generate pity or communicate to his detractors to ease up: "We're really, really trying, and that's what is most important!"

I believe he's trying to wiggle himself out of a bad situation in a bid for self-preservation. I got that assessment from the way he talks about putting his own money into the business. Now I'm going to look how his company is structured! Limited Liability?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on February 13, 2015, 12:48:39 PM
Wrong topic.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on February 13, 2015, 12:48:57 PM
I am in Vail, Colorado. I feel they could arrest me here just because I'm too tall. Or have too much beard. It's scary, feels like the ultimate fortress of white capitalism.
No, that would be Utah.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maven on February 13, 2015, 01:07:11 PM
Wrong topic.


Sorry, didn't realize. I believed I was in the right thread! It's not lying.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on February 13, 2015, 02:03:18 PM
You were in the right thread... until you weren't.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 13, 2015, 02:28:13 PM
Just Cause 3 trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIR-X15HTXQ)

Oh my.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on February 13, 2015, 02:39:08 PM
One of my favorite blow-shit-up franchises of all time. Just don't make the world too small.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on February 13, 2015, 02:40:50 PM
Who did that version of Firestarter? Because it's fucking awesome.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 13, 2015, 03:10:41 PM
Yay for trailers being fifty times better than games. Not sure how I feel about the fact it felt like Fast & Furious: Cuba from HBO.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on February 13, 2015, 04:43:52 PM
Who did that version of Firestarter? Because it's fucking awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPI3b9iPSN0

Torre Florim


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on February 13, 2015, 06:44:01 PM
My primary concern with JC3 is that it's a latter-day Square Enix game, which means it'll be a competent base game with a laundry list of DLC, which will lock away a lot of the fun toys to use, and a billion different preorder editions.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on February 13, 2015, 08:37:16 PM
Moviebob wasn't fired in the last group of layoffs from The Escapist, but he was today! That leaves like uh... Yahtzee I guess.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on February 13, 2015, 09:40:34 PM
Not a lot of chatter about Dying Light.  Is it a play yes or no?  Worth at full price?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MahrinSkel on February 13, 2015, 10:32:35 PM
Been playing Mighty Quest for Epic Loot, which recent!y launched "officially". Was mentioned in this thread about a year ago (Schild hated it). It's kind of a cross between Diablo and Dungeon Keeper, you run through other people's castles in order to get the resources to equip your character and set up your own castle.

Castles that are harder give better loot, those that are particularly good at getting players killed are the only ones that produce "epic" grade items. Most people speed-run as many castles as possible, I prefer to shoot for castles several levels above me and steadily pick them apart. Castles with intricate trap setups that force you to rush into very tough monster groups are great for me, as they give great loot (they kill a lot of speedrunners) and my play style is ideal for them.

It's a fun little distraction that's kept me occupied for a couple of weeks, I haven't really tried very hard on the building side, my boss room is pretty easy but I have a tucked-away mine on a side passage that has killed a lot of players. They power through the main room only to find they have to track down the final mine, rush into a springboard/acid trap combo and then get swarmed.

I don't think I'll keep playing for too much longer, but playing with the crafting system to optimize my equipment is also kind of interesting (I'm in Epic gear, and currently trying to maximize my magical bonuses with reforging).

--Dave


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on February 14, 2015, 08:54:37 AM
Moviebob wasn't fired in the last group of layoffs from The Escapist, but he was today! That leaves like uh... Yahtzee I guess.
Yahtzee was the only one there who was actually entertaining, so that's appropriate.

Not a lot of chatter about Dying Light.  Is it a play yes or no?  Worth at full price?
I played it for PS4 and hated it. Several others here had it for PC and liked it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on February 14, 2015, 10:21:39 AM
They can't fire Yahtzee. If he does what Sterling did, they'd lose about half of their traffic.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on February 14, 2015, 10:59:57 AM
There's anything on the Escapist other than Yahtzee?!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 14, 2015, 03:40:23 PM
https://www.humblebundle.com/weekly

Heh.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on February 14, 2015, 03:45:12 PM
There's anything on the Escapist other than Yahtzee?!

This. I've tried to watch some of their other fare and it's just not that good.

I think the maker of that Humble Weekly Bundle is rk47.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 14, 2015, 05:21:19 PM
A Hate Story and Hate Plus alone are worth the bundle. As long as you are like me. So you are probably gonna hate them.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 16, 2015, 01:03:46 PM
Not a lot of chatter about Dying Light.  Is it a play yes or no?  Worth at full price?
I played it for PS4 and hated it. Several others here had it for PC and liked it.

I have it on PS4 and I like it.  Not sure what the hubbub is about.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 16, 2015, 01:07:10 PM
I got it for free and couldn't compel myself to finish the intro. It's a really terrible intro. That's not giving the game a fair shake though, so eventually I'll sit down with it. Probably next week.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 16, 2015, 01:32:28 PM
Games don't have good intros, so I wasn't bothered by that.  Parkour tutorial was tolerable enough that it didn't stop me from getting past.  Story is fluff to me but this one works well in my opinion.  One thing that I do really like is the nighttime lighting effects.  Also it does manage to be actually creepy for me.  Most fun I've had hiding in a pawn shop until dawn.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on February 17, 2015, 01:21:29 PM
I think Hand of Fate launched today; did anyone have impressions?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on February 21, 2015, 03:55:51 PM
Hmm:

(http://i.imgur.com/T4x6O2y.png)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 21, 2015, 04:27:03 PM
What are you Hmmming about?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on February 21, 2015, 04:45:30 PM
Probably that SC II has no Producer at the moment.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on February 21, 2015, 05:08:41 PM
Are those all open positions? Because if so, that's pretty :ye_gods: for the future of the series.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 21, 2015, 06:17:55 PM
SCII probably has 15 producers.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maven on February 21, 2015, 06:18:40 PM
I think they employ more than one producer. Also external postings are something they do even if they plan to hire internally. Finally they often have someone fill in to cover gaps in critical positions; the first year I was there, we had no permanent QA Manager (2004).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on February 21, 2015, 07:54:00 PM
Meh, who needs QA anyway?  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 25, 2015, 11:46:46 AM
Top 10 videogame years. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udJdidUuaNQ) That's a weird list to make.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nebu on February 25, 2015, 11:59:53 AM
Top 10 videogame years. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udJdidUuaNQ) That's a weird list to make.

I think they undervalued a few of the early years.   


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on February 25, 2015, 03:45:23 PM
2013 at #4? They are on fucking crack.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bunk on February 27, 2015, 10:21:24 AM
There was some pretty good stuff in 2013. Bioshock Infinite, GTA V, Last of Us, Saints Row 4. Mass Effect Citadel, which is one of my favorite gaming moments all time. Had some great indy stuff like Stanley Parable and Gone Home as well. But then I looked at the top 25 games lists for that year and they include stuff like AC4. Ugh.

Still, 1000x better than 2014 was.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on February 27, 2015, 03:15:48 PM
The games you include on there are mostly the same as the list included... and frankly, Infinite made me want to punch Ken Levine in the dick, GTA V might have been interesting if it had been on fucking PC in 2013 (MASTER RACE Y0!), Saints Row 4 while interesting might as well have been DLC for 3 and anything Mass Effect after #2 is also dick-punch worthy. Your mentions of Gone Home does help ameliorate the sting a bit but still... not #4.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 27, 2015, 03:34:19 PM
Last of Us wasn't groundbreaking gameplay in any way, but still an amazing movie-game experience. If not the best.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on February 27, 2015, 04:11:00 PM
I didn't play any of the games Bunk mentioned, but 2013 gave us Shin Megami Tensei IV which is the best RPG I've played in decades. Etrian Odyssey IV and TMG also came out that year, along with Fire Emblem Awakening which made it a hallmark year for the 3DS at the very least. Path of Exile also went into both Open Beta and Actual Release in '13 so I would say it was one of the best years in gaming.

Why the fuck was that Top 10 list only in 480p?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on March 01, 2015, 06:21:51 AM
New candidate for GOTY (NSFW):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2q631ZXpto

No, don't even think about asking me for a refund of those 3 minutes of your life  :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on March 01, 2015, 12:29:04 PM
What in the ever living fuck did I just watch?  :ye_gods: :ye_gods: :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on March 01, 2015, 03:09:48 PM
That is about the right reaction to that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on March 01, 2015, 04:16:48 PM
Ever living fuck is not a bad description.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 01, 2015, 04:30:49 PM
Hi, welcome to the internet home of the internet.

That doesn't even fucking fringe on weird.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on March 02, 2015, 03:53:25 PM
Unreal Engine 4 now free to use (no more subscription required) and 5% royalty on gross revenue after the first $3,000 per product built with it, per quarter.

https://www.unrealengine.com/blog/ue4-is-free


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on March 02, 2015, 05:03:47 PM
Been using this with the in house visualization guy for one of the studios.  Quite stoked that it's free now so I can see if anyone else's wants to try their hand.  We are lacking in 3d artists versed in anything more than fucking sketchup.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on March 03, 2015, 05:28:42 AM
Now, here's one for the "bizarre" category.

Some info before reading the article, in case you're not up-to-date with the company involved in this:

TSI Games - Company that rose from the ashes of SSI (includes some of the guys who worked on Pool of Radiance and the other "Gold Box" games)
Seven Dragon Saga - "spiritual successor" (sigh) to the aforementioned "gold box" games. They will eventually do a KS for it (hopefully they're working on something more advanced than a stock Unity engine prototype like Underworld Ascendant did)

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/pressreleases/237790/TSI_Partners_with_RPG_Developers_in_CrossGame_CharacterImportExport_Initiative.php

Yeah, back to early eighties, I guess: remember when you could do the same with Ultima-Bard's Tale-Wizardry-Phantasie? No? Don't blame you.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goreschach on March 03, 2015, 06:21:24 AM
Now, here's one for the "bizarre" category.

Some info before reading the article, in case you're not up-to-date with the company involved in this:

TSI Games - Company that rose from the ashes of SSI (includes some of the guys who worked on Pool of Radiance and the other "Gold Box" games)
Seven Dragon Saga - "spiritual successor" (sigh) to the aforementioned "gold box" games. They will eventually do a KS for it (hopefully they're working on something more advanced than a stock Unity engine prototype like Underworld Ascendant did)

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/pressreleases/237790/TSI_Partners_with_RPG_Developers_in_CrossGame_CharacterImportExport_Initiative.php

Yeah, back to early eighties, I guess: remember when you could do the same with Ultima-Bard's Tale-Wizardry-Phantasie? No? Don't blame you.



That is impressively stupid.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maven on March 03, 2015, 07:01:16 PM
Five Nights at Freddy's 3 came out, which I guess is popular? While researching it I saw that PewDiePie has amassed an army of imitators.

God damn kids!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on March 04, 2015, 01:28:43 AM
Yeah, back to early eighties, I guess: remember when you could do the same with Ultima-Bard's Tale-Wizardry-Phantasie? No? Don't blame you.

I do remember that and it was cool! That said, it makes more sense to do that when different series are all popular with the same crowd. For a new series seems weird. I don't hate it though, just a weird thing to put out a press release on.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on March 04, 2015, 04:32:40 AM
Nvidia is trying to get in on the console market now with its Shield.  It's an Android based system that allows you to play PC games through "the cloud".  The Cloud. :facepalm:

http://shield.nvidia.com/console#


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on March 04, 2015, 09:10:45 AM
The cloud gaming thing has been around for a while with the other Shield models. The new thing is an Android TV device but the GDC news has been confusing cause all the models are called Shield. I tried the portable version last year and the latency was noticible.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on March 04, 2015, 10:39:28 AM
I've owned the latest SHIELD tablet since Christmas, and I have to say I've been loving it. (Typing this on it right now in fact.) It's basically a video card with a screen.

That said, my broadband is so horribad out here in the sticks that I haven't even tried their version of game streaming (The Grid). Steaming from a local network has been wonky too, but then my home network is very oughties and is in serious need of an upgrade.

But it works very very well as a dedicated gaming tablet, either handheld or plugged into a big screen in console mode.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on March 04, 2015, 01:41:02 PM
Maxis Emeryville shut down (http://www.polygon.com/2015/3/4/8149791/ea-closes-maxis-simcity-the-sims). Not surprising since that location has been deprecated since Spore but still a sad day.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on March 04, 2015, 05:07:18 PM
I'm a day 1 purchase for that nvidia shield console.   I've loved streaming on my Shield tablet while in bed, and now that I've moved my plan in a month or two (once finances stabalize) is to move my gaming pc in the office, add gigabit ethernet to my house, and stream 1080p games to my main TV (and actually have a real office setup for once in my life).   Most good systems to stream to cost $200-300, so this is a perfect price range for me too.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on March 06, 2015, 01:59:45 AM
Shadow of Mordor gets GOTY at GDC, while Elite: Dangerous gets the Audience Award.

Meanwhile, at the Independent Gaming Festival, Outer Wilds (http://outerwilds.com/media/) gets the grand prize and the design prize, while Nathalie Lawhead's crazy pop "games", Tetrageddon (http://tetrageddon.com/) (definitely worth a look), get the Nuovo award which I assume has to do with novelty, or innovation, or insanity.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on March 06, 2015, 02:23:05 AM
Considering the year in total, I am okay with Mordor getting a few nods. 

Two months into 2015 and my GOTY so far is Dying Light.  This game is severely underrated, IMO.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on March 09, 2015, 03:37:13 AM
What do you think of this idea for a single-handed joypad?

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1384390939/grifta-morphing-gamepad


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: cironian on March 09, 2015, 05:21:16 AM
What do you think of this idea for a single-handed joypad?

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1384390939/grifta-morphing-gamepad

Could they have picked a less trustworthy name?  :uhrr:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 09, 2015, 08:30:46 AM
Infinite made me want to punch Ken Levine in the dick,
Only time I've been tempted to make a gameplay video. There was one sequence that just made me laugh for way too long.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Typhon on March 09, 2015, 09:02:10 AM
What do you think of this idea for a single-handed joypad?

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1384390939/grifta-morphing-gamepad

That's pretty cool.  Wish they had buttons on the grip though because I never want my thumb off the movement controls.  So the mouse for looking and fire/alt, controller thumb for movement, and three buttons on the controller grip to give you five buttons your fingers never leave.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on March 09, 2015, 10:16:39 AM
The GRIFTA? How the fuck do you even use the buttons on top one-handed? It's kind of interesting though I'd have to try one before I'd even consider putting money down on it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on March 09, 2015, 11:38:25 AM
AND WHAT ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THE OTHER HAND.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on March 09, 2015, 11:39:07 AM
 :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on March 09, 2015, 04:51:08 PM
I feel like I'd look like an idiot unintentionally waving my hands around without having my hand fixed in the center in front of me.

Cool idea though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on March 11, 2015, 03:33:11 AM
15 years of Total War, with clear hint to Warhammer around 2:35. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBMmbHw8Ha4)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on March 11, 2015, 06:06:51 AM
15 years of Total War, with clear hint to Warhammer around 2:35. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBMmbHw8Ha4)

Favorite comments, since I don't believe anything TW says anymore and they have been in terrible decline since 2006 with Medieval 2:

Quote
Removing the family skill tree is one of the reasons I didn't buy Rome 2
I find it funny how creative assembly have just reminded us how good their old games were compared to Rome 2.
Total War, the glory days ended for you with Medieval 2. Fuck you corporate whores. I doubt I would ever give you any more money ever again.
All these total war games have one thing in common: The battlefield AI is dumber than a second coat of paint.
Why is Total War: Rome 2 there? I thought nobody liked Total War: Rome 2 a lot of people told me its like the Sonic 06 of the Total War games (because Sega).
Rome Total Shit II, along with Attila Total Shit; I want a refund...
Total War went to shit after Napoleon.
I thought the title said 15 year olds creating total war in the comment section
Oh god, are they delving into fantasy... please say no....
i still play rome 2004 to this day, such a amazing game
To bad the latter games suck.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on March 12, 2015, 11:01:07 AM
So, the KS for "Seven Dragon Saga" by TSI is online:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/537511454/seven-dragon-saga-by-tactical-simulations-interact

Yeah, SSI "alumni" and whatnot.

IMO, the video pitch is absolutely horrible (yeah, Underworld Ascendant was only slightly better). I mean, I played fuckin' Hillsfar on the C64, Wizard's Crown, Rings of Zilfin, the gold box games etc. , I would really like to give 'em at least 10 bucks, but I expected quite more considering when they first announced their project (last september). Have to agree with user "covr" on RPGCodex:

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Guys, you've really backed this? It looks amateurish as shit, terrible pitch, messed up backer rewards... With bunch of old farts, probably they have been out of computer gaming for years. You know, they've made some great games in the past, when they were young, creative, healthy and effective. Now they are rotting overweight fucks, who can't even made mediocre video pitch. Don't get your hopes so high.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Speedy Cerviche on March 16, 2015, 02:12:35 PM
http://www.wsj.com/articles/how-cheating-on-your-income-taxes-can-lead-to-prison-1426256598

Second Life player goes to the slammer.


Better declare that HEX income, Schild, haha.




Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on March 16, 2015, 03:30:51 PM
http://www.wsj.com/articles/how-cheating-on-your-income-taxes-can-lead-to-prison-1426256598

Second Life player goes to the slammer.


Better declare that HEX income, Schild, haha.




Hell, that may still be worth it. Four months minimum security, probably time off early for good behavior, and he still keeps the bulk of the money (which was legally gained, so it's his, short the tax part).

And he has an guaranteed interesting dinner conversation topic for the rest of his life...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Speedy Cerviche on March 16, 2015, 10:43:18 PM
guess that depends on if he gets shanked or not.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 17, 2015, 06:52:13 AM
Alternately, do all of those things except the part about not declaring the income?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on March 17, 2015, 07:31:48 AM
If he declares the offshore account and the income, he has no issues.

Pay your taxes people, they ALWAYS find out eventually. It's nigh impossible now with the way bank accounts work to hide income without some friends in high places. And guess what? If they find one thing that's fraud, there's no statute of limitations on them ripping your life wide open. You're never safe from fraud.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on March 17, 2015, 07:33:47 AM
Hell, that may still be worth it. Four months minimum security, probably time off early for good behavior, and he still keeps the bulk of the money (which was legally gained, so it's his, short the tax part).

And he has an guaranteed interesting dinner conversation topic for the rest of his life...

He has to amend his returns. By the time the interest and penalties get done, the bulk of that money is going bye-bye.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Miasma on March 17, 2015, 07:57:13 AM
I thought they offered some sort of semi amnesty for those hidden accounts a couple years ago.  Pay your taxes, a smaller fine and they won't burn you to the ground.  I guess he rolled the dice and chose not to take advantage of it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on March 17, 2015, 10:13:13 AM
The article said he went with the amnesty thing and filed amended tax returns, but fucked himself when he didn't declare the income from Second Life.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Selby on March 17, 2015, 10:49:11 AM
The article said he went with the amnesty thing and filed amended tax returns, but fucked himself when he didn't declare the income from Second Life.
Yup, not completely honest.  If they find any evidence of fraud after you were supposedly completely honest with them, they come back even harder and with a fiery vengeance.  It's best to admit you screwed up the first time and acknowledge it all, saying "oh yeah I forgot about that part..." after you were supposed to be honest gets you in major trouble.

Which is why I never wanted to handle my ex-mother-in-law's tax situations.  She was always doing shady things and not paying here or there, hands off that mess!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on March 17, 2015, 11:15:28 AM
NOTE: The IRS will almost never throw you in jail for working with them.

You get thrown in jail for ignoring them, playing rinky-dink lawyer games with them, or just outright lying to them.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on March 17, 2015, 01:37:10 PM
Alternately, do all of those things except the part about not declaring the income?

Well, yeah! I wasn't defending his business model, only commenting on how light the sentence seemed.

Of course, it's not me going to jail.

And to further comment, if the article is remotely correct it looks like the dummy kept trying to hide things after he was effectively caught. The dummy.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Torinak on March 17, 2015, 06:40:03 PM
Hell, that may still be worth it. Four months minimum security, probably time off early for good behavior, and he still keeps the bulk of the money (which was legally gained, so it's his, short the tax part).

And he has an guaranteed interesting dinner conversation topic for the rest of his life...

He has to amend his returns. By the time the interest and penalties get done, the bulk of that money is going bye-bye.

Anyone know if those penalties will include the massive penalties for willful violations for failing to declare foreign accounts (greater of 50% or 100K per violation)? If so, he may not end up with much of anything, or even owe a lot.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on March 18, 2015, 12:28:29 AM
Why aren't we talking about how this guy supposedly made a bunch of money on Second Life?  How is that even a thing?  I must have missed something somewhere along the line, because SL is something I've heard almost nothing about over the past 5 or 6 years.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on March 18, 2015, 01:20:34 AM
Why aren't we talking about how this guy supposedly made a bunch of money on Second Life?  How is that even a thing?  I must have missed something somewhere along the line, because SL is something I've heard almost nothing about over the past 5 or 6 years.

Cuz no one here considers it a game? More like a ...social online meet up world where you can manufacture custom avatar accessories like dildo, anal plugs, even retractable penis to wear for a real cash.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on March 18, 2015, 09:05:48 AM
Why aren't we talking about how this guy supposedly made a bunch of money on Second Life?  How is that even a thing?  I must have missed something somewhere along the line, because SL is something I've heard almost nothing about over the past 5 or 6 years.
Umm Google "Anshe Chung". There was a period of time where the media wouldn't shut up about her.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on March 19, 2015, 05:15:00 AM
Paper, Please. Collector Edition.

https://www.gamersedition.com/product/papers-please

(https://images.eurogamer.net/2014/gamersedition/papers-please/final-box.jpg/EG11/resize/498x336)



 :heart:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on March 19, 2015, 05:42:35 AM
Who are the people that decide that everything has to be like Dark Souls now? Last week has seen at least two separate threads (one on GAF and one on another site I can't recall at the moment) where people complained about Pokemon being to easy and that it would great if it was more difficult and gritty. I get that those people probably never really experienced anything truly difficult until they stumbled upon DS and are now a bit drunk on the realization that difficulty can be fun. The current hive-mind idea that everything has to be more like Dark Souls up to and including a game aimed at kids and preteens is getting a bit ridiculous though. That's like claiming that 'My little Pony' needs to be more like 'Game of Thrones'

I'm also a bit tired of everything even remotely odder or more difficult than the average game being called the "Dark Souls of x". Metroid Prime 2 being called  "The Dark Souls of the Metroid Prime saga" or Zelda: Majora's mask being called the DS of the Zelda series are two of the more egregious examples. We're now at a point we've been before when everyone demanded that games need to be more like 'Call of Duty' and now most games are actually exactly like Call of Duty so 'be careful what you wish for' I guess.

It also makes discussing the merits, shortcomings and generally the mechanics of games that much more tedious since all complaints - even legitimate ones - are only being met with 'just get gud'. You can see it actually with Hotline Miami 2 where a lot of legitimate complaints people have with the game (like enemies killing you from off screen with no chance for you to actually see them) are being met with 'you only have those issues because you are not hardcore enough for the game' replies.

I'm dreading the release of Bloodbourne a bit in that respect. The game can only lose. It probably won't be 'just like Dark Souls' enough for the crowd that really loves Dark Souls and the chance that it will be a significant step in any other direction is slim since there's not really a debate about what DS did great and what it didn't anyway. It will dominate the duiscussion in the upcoming weeks though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tmp on March 19, 2015, 06:02:03 AM
So, DS is the next Ninja Gaiden for people who never played that one?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on March 19, 2015, 06:06:14 AM
Gritty is the new brodude.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on March 19, 2015, 06:20:27 AM
I'd really like something like 'inside the actor's studio' for games.

Right now everything a game does is rationalized by a certain fraction of the fan base as being intentional and by design and something the designers always wanted to do´right from the start. That sentiment is wrong of course but right now you can't for example even discuss something like Dark Souls or Monster Hunter being obtuse and very inaccessible wiithout people justifying it as 'intentional' and being an 'essential part of the game experience'. Even though it touches parts of the game where nothing would really change if the games simply explained their core mechanics better without you needing a wiki or extensive FAQs to play it.

I wonder how people would discuss those games if they for example knew that something came to be like it is in a game because the developers simply couldn't be bothered or if more people knew that the difficulty of those 'classic' arcade games was mostly so you'd put more quarters into the game not that dissimilar from how free to play works today.

Right now fans tend to turn everything a game they love does into gospel even if changing certain aspects of it wouldn't really change much.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on March 19, 2015, 06:29:50 AM
No company should allow their developers to tell the truth about how they design. Because admitting the disdain they actually have for their customer base, and their total ineptitude in the production process, would be business suicide.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Teleku on March 19, 2015, 07:26:08 AM
So, DS is the next Ninja Gaiden for people who never played that one?
Ninja Gaiden is the next Ghost N Goblins for people who never played that?

 :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on March 19, 2015, 08:19:20 AM
Who are the people that decide that everything has to be like Dark Souls now?

Who are the people that decide that platform shoes are back in style?

You know the answer.

With all that said, you should read Schild's 2009 review of Demon's Souls to get some more light about it. Demon's Souls, not Dark Souls, is where the legend begins, and to think that what made that game actually LEGENDARY is not deliberate would mean not having a clear grasp on what set it aside and why. Bloodborne won't lose no matter what as long as it's not a shitty game. The Dark Souls 1 and 2 have already been a step back from what made Demon's Souls special but this didn't hurt it at all. "Discussions will be dominated in the upcoming weeks" but who cares? And ultimately the "gritty" that is often evoked these days doesn't have that much to do with just the D*Souls games. Aesthetics is an interesting topic, and I believe that lots of the things you are complaining about don't really have much to do with one game series, while instead with an evolution of style, taste, preferences, of everything in the past ten years. Game of Thrones is a kind of gritty that owes nothing to D*Souls but wouldn't have been made in a TV show ten years ago. Same for Walking Dead. Or they would have been made very different.

Take movies: the 70s were gritty, but the 80s and the 90s not so much. Why?

When it comes to gaming, I believe lots of the most recent popularity of "hardcore" is a consequence of all the handholding we've been exposed for the past ten years, as tutorials have become huge part of all games and the dumbification of gameplay has become another staple of the 2000s. After enough years, a generation who could only shop for flats starts demanding for platforms. And while handholding was important to globalize gaming and increase the mass-appeal, now "specialists" are tired of being taught things they already know. So Demon's Souls was liberating and cathartic, and to a way lesser degree the same is true now for some people for games which out of contingency (not enough money to make a tutorial) or deliberate choices go for a less user-friendly approach. The DayZ explosion comes to mind. Impossible ten years ago, and not a consequence of D*Souls.

Anyway, the problem are humans. They ingest, digest, and poop it all (and vomit some) into a cream of generic transient likes and dislikes, only to start a new cycle before they have even finished wiping their arses from the previous one. In short, I understand your irritation and can empathise with it but it's ultimately your fault for caring about what the internet says about anything and giving weight to discussions that are weightless and not representative of much. Despite what you say, for a game that seems to be so influential, there's surprisingly very few things like Demon's Souls. Sure, I can see one hive mind lobbying for harder and grittier games, but there's many more pushing for the opposite and they are still winning.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maven on March 19, 2015, 09:08:04 AM
Hey, platform shoes are always in style! Damn it.

I'm a fan.  :oh_i_see:

I am not surprised that someone deep into video games would minimize / ignore the complaints of others by telling them "Well, I <like / enjoy / can deal with> <poor mechanics / bad art / inhuman difficulty>, so the problem must be with you."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on March 19, 2015, 09:32:09 AM
Platform shoes are an abomination on the level of square nails.

You should feel bad for liking them.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on March 19, 2015, 09:36:12 AM
New video of EVE Valkyrie. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ4gpjwJa08) I don't believe this will ever come out, but the video is fantastic.



And Maven, I minimize Jeff complaints because while it seems like he doesn't enjoy the tone of certain discussions happening somewhere else, it's not like gaming is really going where he's afraid it's going. Seems like he's complaining that SOME people on the Internet called him names for playing Pokemon, not that companies are quitting to make Pokemon games. And to that, I say "why do you care what some dudes, actually a minority of dudes, think?"

Seems to me you are kind of comparing my behaviour to the typical cyberbullism where nothing ever matters and everyone steps over other people's issues because "who cares!" and "not my problem!". Since I'd hoped you knew me better at this point, you should know that I assumed Jeff complaints weren't particulary intense in nature or personal issues that he cares a lot about and are very emotionally meaningful to him. Also difficult to associate disagreeing about games genres to any form of systematic oppression. But if he meant any of that in that fashion, then you know I'd like to know more about it and I'd certainly apologise for missing the point entirely.

I am a big fan of platform shoes too, by the way. I hate when they go away and all those who used to buy them say they were ugly and "what was I thinking?!" only to get them again when society says they are in style again. Over and over. I didn't say Jeff sucks. I just said he seemed to care too much about other people's opinion especially in a time when he can actually buy all kind of shoes and games he likes and the worst that can happen to him is that some idiot will call him "carebear".


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on March 19, 2015, 09:57:41 AM
"Zak McKracken and the Alien Mindbenders" is now on GOG (together with, among others, Loom and The Dig, which were already available on Steam, anyway):

http://www.gog.com/game/zak_mckracken_and_the_alien_mindbenders

I can't really express how much I love Zak Mckracken; I remember my 11 years old self coming back from the store back in 1989  with my copy for the Atari ST, and stare in awe and anticipation at the colourful cover and that newspaper (National Inquisitor) page replica inside, which I couldn't really understand because it was in this strange language called english. It was also my "real" introduction to the "SCUMM" system, since I hated (and still do) Maniac Mansion.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tmp on March 19, 2015, 10:11:46 AM
So, DS is the next Ninja Gaiden for people who never played that one?
Ninja Gaiden is the next Ghost N Goblins for people who never played that?

 :why_so_serious:
Fuck Ghosts N Goblins, I was suppressing the memory  :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on March 19, 2015, 12:06:39 PM
I'm not complaining and no one has called me anything for playing Pokemon (probably because I don't play it). It wasn't even meant as a slight against Demon's Souls or Dark Souls because I'm not hating those games. I don't really get why my reply struck such a cord with you that you had to step in and defend Demon's Souls honor. I simply claimed that a sensible discussion of such games is now impossible because of people getting very defensive about any and all perceived slights against their beloved franchises and you went on to prove my point by seemingly getting very defensive about those games.

We are in useless gaming news and chatter and my contribution wasn't meant as anything more than useless chater in the first place.

My problem doesn't lie with games being difficult, I grew up on arcade games of the eighties. It also doesn't lie with people liking difficult games because more power to them. I also don't have a problem when people express their wishes and hope that more games come out that offer the same or similar challenges because why not. The more and the more diverse games come out the better.

A trend I noticed though is that a certain very vocal fraction of people  don't really want more games that are challenging - like Demon's Souls was challenging. What they want instead is that existing franchises become more like Demon's Souls or Dark Souls. This notion has become so ridiculously canonized now that those people regularly derail threads about existing or upcoming releases by making it all about how franchise X should be more like Demon's Souls. The flip side is that any discussion about those games quickly turns into a dick measuring contest about which person is the most hardcore and who is able to finish the most games on the hardest difficulty settings.

Which would be alright if it wouldn't regularly be used to police and shut down discussions by claiming that those games are flawless and that every issue you have with a particular game just comes from you not being hardcore enough. Which ultimately helps no one because the majority of the market doesn't care and never has and will continue to buy the big AAA titles. All they manage is to alienate the faction of players that are on the fence but who are by and large enthusiastic enough that they engage in the discussion. Pushing those games even further into their respective niches instead of making challenging gameplay more mainstream.

The Pokemon thread just struck a cord with me because of the ridiculousness of that claim.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on March 19, 2015, 12:31:24 PM
I'd really like something like 'inside the actor's studio' for games.

With the rise of stuff like crowdfunding and the popularity of game streams and social media, I think we're seeing a lot more of this kind of thing.  It's just not centralized or organized.  For example, here's a bunch of System Shock 2 devs streaming a playthrough (as part of their Underworld Ascendant kickstarter push)
http://www.twitch.tv/otherside_entertainment/b/629633697 (http://www.twitch.tv/otherside_entertainment/b/629633697)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on March 19, 2015, 01:33:08 PM
I'm not complaining and no one has called me anything for playing Pokemon (probably because I don't play it). It wasn't even meant as a slight against Demon's Souls or Dark Souls because I'm not hating those games. I don't really get why my reply struck such a cord with you that you had to step in and defend Demon's Souls honor. I simply claimed that a sensible discussion of such games is now impossible because of people getting very defensive about any and all perceived slights against their beloved franchises and you went on to prove my point by seemingly getting very defensive about those games.
The problem is that you're trying to discuss Pokemon (or whatever) on internet shitholes.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on March 19, 2015, 05:19:48 PM
Last week has seen at least two separate threads (one on GAF

Found your problem.

Edit: Also, after six generations of Pokemon games and countless releases, I don't think it would be a bad thing for someone if not Nintendo to do a more difficult Pokemon-style game with perhaps a more adult aesthetic.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on March 20, 2015, 01:39:11 AM
I am not sure if I am following this conversation correctly, but let's get this out there right now:  Demon Souls is objectively great, and anyone who doesn't think so is just wrong.  It doesn't mean you have to like it.  It is possible to dislike something and still recognize it as great. 

And also, while all the DS games are "gritty", and I personally love their grotesque brand of grittiness, it isn't even remotely that fact that makes them great.  It could be cel shaded graphics full of ponies and rainbows, and it would still be great.  Hell, that would probably make them sell better than they already do.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 20, 2015, 07:27:08 AM
I'm not sure if this is the actual origin, but Demon's Souls was not the origin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPspfM8S2fU


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on March 20, 2015, 07:59:36 AM
Oh I know about King's Field, but Demon's Souls is the "origin" of some of the harsh (heh) gritty stuff we discuss these days. While King's Field was definitely not a common game even back then, it was less uncommon in its days than Demon's Souls when it came out fifteen years later.

About Jeff Kelly, you started with:

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Who are the people that decide that everything has to be like Dark Souls now?

No one.

Then you went on with:

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Last week has seen at least two separate threads (one on GAF and one on another site I can't recall at the moment) where people complained about Pokemon being to easy and that it would great if it was more difficult and gritty.

Two separate threads on two different message boards represent what, other than a very small number of irrelevant people?

Without going on with too much quoting, I didn't mean to dissect your posts -as much as I didn't mean to defend the D*Souls games as I didn't think you were attacking them-. I tagged along with you on the Useless Chatter wagon only to tell you that, in my opinion, you were yelling at the moon. Not even the moon, just a very tiny photograph of the moon pinned on the wall of one of your favourite bars.

Ultimately you say:

Quote
Which would be alright if it wouldn't regularly be used to police and shut down discussions by claiming that those games are flawless and that every issue you have with a particular game just comes from you not being hardcore enough. Which ultimately helps no one because the majority of the market doesn't care and never has and will continue to buy the big AAA titles. All they manage is to alienate the faction of players that are on the fence but who are by and large enthusiastic enough that they engage in the discussion.

Seems to me that you are saddened by the poor intelligence of your conversation partners on gaming websites, and their baseless, brainless, arrogant statements on what is supposed to be good and what is not. I don't mean to be snarky, but I really don't get it: seriously?
I also don't mean to summon Maven by saying "this is fuckin videogames and videogame people!", because no it's not like everything can pass since this broad community is mostly idiotic, and I strongly believe that shit that is NOT OK has to be called out. I'm the resident SJW here, am I not?
But people's tastes, dick contests about who's more hardcore? People not being objective about good and bad games? Who cares? Why do YOU even care?



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on March 22, 2015, 09:41:40 AM
What???

(http://i.imgur.com/jPXbkmQ.jpg)

Yum!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goreschach on March 22, 2015, 12:26:04 PM
Easy there, Frankie.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Senses on March 22, 2015, 04:26:12 PM
Maybe I'm jaded but is 2015 like the worst year of PC gaming ever so far?  This is the first year I can't think of a single game I'm looking forward to and scanning site after site reveals only a couple of mildly interesting indie kickstarters.  Are they finally out of good ideas?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 22, 2015, 05:11:13 PM
It's 3 months, and no way. Couldn't be worse than 2014.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Senses on March 22, 2015, 05:35:12 PM
Well I'm bored damnit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on March 22, 2015, 06:46:05 PM
AAA gaming has been mostly "please God don't fuck this one up" for a while now, for me.  They put out some solid stuff but it's hard to know if you're looking at the next Shadows of Mordor or another Assassin's Creed: Unity without being able to actually play it (if daddy Ubisoft will please let us publish reviews of his game, that is).

There's a few games I'm keeping my eye on.  The new Batman game, Arkham Knight, could be good.  Bloodbourne, obviously.  Blood Bowl 2 is supposed to release in the next few months.  No Man's Sky maybe.  The reboot of Star Wars: Battlefront.  Witcher 3.  Plus the usual heap of janky indie stuff.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on March 22, 2015, 07:00:39 PM
Pillars of Eternity comes out this week, and while the game mechanics are not exactly something new, it could be quite an immersive experience if you are into CRPG stories and lore (yep, I'm guilty of being a CRPG LARPer  :why_so_serious:). Possibly better than both Wasteland 2 and Divinity:OS


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Senses on March 22, 2015, 07:24:01 PM
Pillars of Eternity comes out this week, and while the game mechanics are not exactly something new, it could be quite an immersive experience if you are into CRPG stories and lore (yep, I'm guilty of being a CRPG LARPer  :why_so_serious:). Possibly better than both Wasteland 2 and Divinity:OS

Thank you for this, I am so in.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: lamaros on March 22, 2015, 11:39:47 PM
I hope PoE is good. Been a long time since a great RPG. Divinity was only good.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on March 23, 2015, 04:10:02 AM
Doesn't Bloodbourne come out like tomorrow?  Gasp!  I am not ready for this yet.  Unless for some reason it doesn't somehow come close to living up to any of the Souls games, that already makes 2015 better than 2014.  Also, I have said it before, but Dying Light is a lot better than what it has been given credit for.  I like it waaaaaaaay better than any AC game, and at least a little better than Mordor IMO, and I liked Mordor....it compares best to those games, by the way.  Still sorta looking forward to GTAV on PC, and Battlefront 3?  Hell yeah.

No way can 2015 be worse than 2014. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on March 23, 2015, 08:26:30 AM
Bloodborne comes out tomorrow in North America and a whole 17 hours later in Europe. That fucked me the wrong way as I organized a little event with some friends who took time off work months ago just for this. Only to find out we are gonna get it the next day. I wanna punch myself in the face hard.

Also, Dark Souls 2 was just last year, so Bloodborne has to top it to make 2015 better than 2014.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on March 23, 2015, 01:19:32 PM
I think that Kickstartered Pillars game comes out this week too.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 23, 2015, 02:31:36 PM
Also, Dark Souls 2 was just last year, so Bloodborne has to top it to make 2015 better than 2014.

This doesn't seem difficult, but we shall see.

I'm going to also nominate Dying Light as surprisingly good.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 23, 2015, 04:46:22 PM
Still haven't gotten through the intro of Dying Light.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on March 23, 2015, 04:50:23 PM
Twitch hacked:

http://blog.twitch.tv/2015/03/important-notice-about-your-twitch-account/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on March 24, 2015, 12:28:50 AM
Still haven't gotten through the intro of Dying Light.


Not sure what bothered you so much about the intro.  I thought it was just standard fare cheesy action movie intro scene that we've seen a million times before.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 24, 2015, 01:20:56 AM
Still haven't gotten through the intro of Dying Light.


Not sure what bothered you so much about the intro.  I thought it was just standard fare cheesy action movie intro scene that we've seen a million times before.

That's precisely why.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on March 24, 2015, 05:22:54 AM
YEAH BABY!

Convoy release announcement.  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0JPB4b3Zck)

On Steam, April 21st 2015.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on March 24, 2015, 07:34:11 AM
Still haven't gotten through the intro of Dying Light.


Not sure what bothered you so much about the intro.  I thought it was just standard fare cheesy action movie intro scene that we've seen a million times before.

That's precisely why.

I guess I knew you were going to say that.  Even so, you're throwing the baby out with the bathwater.  The story is totally servicable and works just fine for the context of "zombie apocalypse".  The quests are fun (side quests as well).  The controls are great.  The parkour is great.  The loot and itemization works nicely.  The choice to do it first person rather than third person was brilliant.  The game is long.  It looks faaaaaaantastic.  There is very little not to like, unless you are turned off by the cheesy intro, or the fact that it is yet another zombie game (albeit easily the best of the current zombie games).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on March 25, 2015, 12:34:50 PM
YouTube rumored to be working on Twitch competitor (http://www.dailydot.com/esports/youtube-google-esports-livestreaming/).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goreschach on March 25, 2015, 03:18:41 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/cn0HLmU.png)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fordel on March 25, 2015, 06:03:18 PM
Is the youtube live streaming thing still complete ass?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on March 25, 2015, 07:33:07 PM
As someone working as a startup dealing with live streaming I'll say this about youtube.

From a user perspective, Youtube live streams are pretty damn good.  The quality is good (though some people watching our multi-stream outputs thought that UStream's audio was a bit better) and Youtube is the only streaming service that has live DVR functionality for live streams.  I can pause, rewind, and fast forward even if I join in the middle of a stream.

From a broadcaster perspective, their interface is complete ass and overly complicated when all the gamers want to do is start pushing video and it be "there".  It's setup for scheduled broadcasts which the gamer crowd has no interest in.  It does make broadcaster's lives good though due to automatic creation of VODs from the live streams once done.

I think that if they have a better way to find live video (especially event/game related searching, and probably a live stream dedicated sub-portal) and make the broadcaster tools not complete ass, they can own the game streaming market (non-exclusive agreements notwithstanding, though they definitely have the manpower to compete on this front).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goreschach on March 25, 2015, 09:40:50 PM
Youtube will absolutely not make inroads with the twitch base due to it's automated copyright flagging.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on March 26, 2015, 01:41:08 AM
If YouTube will allow for higher upload bitrates than Twitch they'll get people to switch cause holy fuck does the quality on Twitch suck.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on March 26, 2015, 01:48:28 AM
I am convinced that YouTube is ripe for being subverted.  The ads are getting infuriating.  Even just a year ago they were relatively benign.  Now you get them for every video start, regardless of whether it is on PC, iPad, or TV app.  I think I have even seen ads come in during the middle of a video if I am not mistaken?  Anyway, someone is going to come along with something that provides the same services, but with a less intrusive revenue model.  It would have the added benefit of simultaneously destroying all the PewDeePies of the world, at least temporarily.

I mean, these things never survive for long, do they?  I will admit that I am quite possibly wrong, but I feel this particular cloud needed yelling at.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on March 26, 2015, 02:30:35 AM
I was as mad and frustrated as you are. Then I installed AdBlock and I haven't seen a single YouTube ad in a year.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: apocrypha on March 26, 2015, 04:27:01 AM
I was going to say, I thought that YouTube ads had disappeared, then I remembered I have AdBlock on every device.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on March 26, 2015, 05:37:23 AM
LOL I was wondering why he said the ads were getting infuriating when I can't remember the last time I saw one.  Didn't even realize Adblock was blocking them.

It was hillarious when AGDQ 2015 was going on and they kept going "And now a break for commercials" and they'd just stand around talking for 30 seconds and then be like "And we are back".  I was so confused, until I realized that adblock blocks twitch ads.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on March 26, 2015, 06:40:54 AM
Ok, guess it's time for me to learn hockey.

Sports Interactive is resurrecting the "Eastside Hockey Manager" franchise (they previously developed titles for it between 2004 and 2007). Extensive interview with Studio Director Miles Jacobson:

http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=13579

Facebook page (public, of course), with lots of screenshots:

https://www.facebook.com/eastsidehockeymanager


Oh, it comes out this evening on Steam Early access, 6pm UK time  :drill: (discount for owners of FM15  :heart: ).

If you like Hockey, but never got into the FM series well...you can't go wrong with Sports Interactive :)





Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on March 26, 2015, 06:45:24 AM
This could be the end of me. I have to try as hard as possible to forget its existence.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on March 26, 2015, 01:09:52 PM
Last week has seen at least two separate threads (one on GAF

Found your problem.

Edit: Also, after six generations of Pokemon games and countless releases, I don't think it would be a bad thing for someone if not Nintendo to do a more difficult Pokemon-style game with perhaps a more adult aesthetic.
My issue is more that the game play hasn't really evolved in a long time, other than annoying gimmick battles that get added in, then quietly dropped when it turns out no one likes having to put up three pokemon, which then randomly rotate into battle.

As for harder, grittier pokemon, tell them to shut up and do another nuzlocke run (http://www.nuzlocke.com/challenge.php).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fordel on March 26, 2015, 01:24:52 PM
If YouTube will allow for higher upload bitrates than Twitch they'll get people to switch cause holy fuck does the quality on Twitch suck.



The quality would suck all the same on whatever youtube provides. It's not the provider, it's the streamer causes the shit quality. Most streamers just don't have PC's or connections capable of delivering the full 60 at any top end resolution.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on March 26, 2015, 01:34:10 PM
Twitch *strongly* recommends you don't stream at higher than 3.5 Mbps unless you are a partner. Yes most people have crappy streaming setups but even the top partner streamers are usually stuck with crappy 720p streams (or 1080p streams with crappy frame rates, pick your poison) cause Twitch doesn't have the infrastructure to both allow higher bandwidth uploads and allow multiple resolutions downloads/streams. E.g. watching the professional DOTA2 steams on Twitch suck donkey balls cause those are at 720p running with a horrible downsampling filter (i.e. the casters are running at 1080p or higher natively).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fordel on March 26, 2015, 03:28:43 PM
Related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5Punp3djLM

 :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on March 31, 2015, 02:14:32 PM
I wasn't sure if yet another Early Access Survival game that may or may not take of deserves it's own thread. But the trailer looks pretty, so a post in this thread seems justified....maybe?

Savage Lands - Survival Fantasy Game (https://youtu.be/53Qds6PoRJ8)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on March 31, 2015, 02:23:51 PM
Jesus, they need to change the name. I suggest Fantastical Land of Digital Assrapery.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on April 03, 2015, 06:49:59 PM
Just to give people some lulz for the weekend, the MMO Greed Monger (whoever thought of that name should be kicked in the balls so hard that they come out the top of their head), that got $100k on Kick Starter, had its one and only dev quit today amid much drama and the game is essentially DOA.  Not that it was ever going to see the light of day anyway since it reeked of a KS scam since day one.  I'm not going to go into this too deeply since no one would have given a shit about GM had it released anyway, but sufficed to say the man behind the whole thing, Jason Appleton, is one of the biggest douche bags I've ever seen involved in gaming.  He's threatened to sue pretty much anyone and everyone over the past few years when he's been called on his bullshit and comes across as an internet tough guy because he's involved in MMA and looks like a fairly large man.  If you feel like doing a really lame Easter egg hunt, check out the links scattered in thread posted below.

http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/greed-monger-insider-thread-drama-inside.98177/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maven on April 03, 2015, 09:32:26 PM
Threats and intimidation hide weakness. A secure person has no use of the tool.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 07, 2015, 02:22:39 PM
Tools are tools.  Hammer for nails, etc.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on April 07, 2015, 02:31:40 PM
Hmm....
http://www.pcgamer.com/deus-ex-mankind-divided-details-leak/

 :woot:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on April 08, 2015, 03:45:07 AM
The rest of Q2's releases:

4/15

Mortal Kombat X - PS4, XB1, PC     Loved the last one. This one looks great as well.

GTA V - PC     Beat this game a year and a half ago, but hey at least now it's prettier.

4/21

Assassin's Creed Chronicles: China - PS4, XB1, PC     When a yearly franchise just isn't enough, churn out cheap downloadable games also.

Dungeons 2 - PC     Spent two minutes looking this up. Don't care.

4/28

State of Decay- Year-One Survival Edition - XB1, PC      Enhanced version of the game I guess.   

Omega Quintet - PS4     Looks like some Sailor Moon shit.

The Golf Club: Collector's Edition - PlayStation 4 - PS4     It's Golf.

Tropico 5 - PS4     If you want to pay $60 for a console version of Tropico....

Broken Age - PC     The game is complete a mere 3 years and 2 months after being funded.

Shadowrun Chronicles - Boston Lockdown - PC     Speaking of Kickstarter, this is the game formerly known as Shadowrun Online. I like Shadowrun. This might be ok.


5/5

Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor 2 Record Breaker - 3DS    Someone into SMT games can comment on this.


5/8

Kirby and the Rainbow Paintbrush - Wii U     I like that every Nintendo game description now has to tell me what Amiibos I can use with it.

5/12

Final Fantasy X|X-2 HD Remaster Limited Edition - PS4      In case you felt the PS3 and Vita didn't have the power to do these mediocre FF games justice.

Trainz: A New Era     There's enough of an audience for these games that someone makes a $200 train controller (http://www.amazon.com/RailDriver-Desktop-Train-Cab-Controller-PC/dp/B0002APWXS/ref=sr_1_22?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1428482900&sr=1-22&keywords=trainz)

5/19

The Witcher: Wild Hunt - PS4, XB1, PC    Has looked ok in previews but I didn't like the first two games, and the delays haven't been encouraging.

Farming Simulator 15 - PS4, PS3, XB1, 360      "Manage your farm with new vehicles from brands like New Holland, Case IH, Lamborghini, Ponsse, Horsch, Kuhn and more"

Hyperdimension Neptunia U: Action Unleashed - Vita

Arcania - The Complete Tale - PS4    I'm sure after four years and a port to current gen consoles people will be dying to get their hands on these games that nobody gave much of a shit about before.

5/22

Puzzle and Dragons Dual Pack - 3DS

5/25

Splatoon - Wii U     Good things were said about it when it was initially revealed but haven't heard much since.

Project Cars - PS4, XB1     Delayed multiple times. Creative director's statement that: "Project CARS innovates in so many ways; such as its free-from career mode, removal of ‘grinding’ cash or XP systems, dynamic time of day and weather, support for 12K resolution and virtual reality devices like Oculus Rift and Project Morpheus, and performance at 1080p, 60fps – not to mention its multi-platform approach." doesn't do much to convince me that it was time well spent.

Lord of Magna: Maiden Heaven - 3DS    Too generic to even comment.

Hatsune Miku: Project Mirai DX - 3DS     By all means, explain to me why it's perfectly ok for adults to buy this game.

Legend of Kay Anniversary - Wii U, PS4, PC     Another current gen port of a game people didn't care much about the first time around. This time it's a 10 year old PS2 game.

Crookz: The Big Heist - PC     Kalypso likes publishing games.

Velocity 2X - PC      Port of the fairly well regarded PS4 game

6/2

Apparently nothing.

6/9

Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited - PS4, XB1, PC     Hey, it's that MMO I'm not playing.

Operation Abyss: New Tokyo Legacy - Vita

6/16

Payday 2 Crimewave - PS4, XB1     Probably likely that anyone here interested in the Payday games is already playing them on the PC.

6/23

Batman: Arkham Knight - PS4, XB1, PC     Another Batman game.

FINAL FANTASY XIV: Heavensward - PS4, PS3, PC     Eh, maybe.

Ride - PS4, XB1     Recently delayed in the U.S., but apparently currently available in the U.K. and receiving somewhat poor reviews.

6/30

Onechanbara Z2: Chaos - 'Banana Split' Edition - PS4     I don't know much about this game or series. The wikipedia page baffled me, and the See Also section at the bottom suggested I follow a link to "Big Tits Zombie" which it says is similarly themed.

EA SPORTS Rory McIlroy PGA TOUR - PS4, XB1     The end of the Tiger Woods era.

LEGO Jurassic World - Everything but the PC     Rapidly approaching the 20th Lego: Insert movie name here.

Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;Birth3: V Generation - Vita     You may notice at this point that I refuse to comment on Vita exclusive games.

F1 2015 - PS4, XB1     Annual Codemasters F1 game

BlazBlue: Chrono Phantasma EXTEND - PS4, PS3, XB1, Vita     Never played any of these.

Mortal Kombat X - PS3, 360


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on April 08, 2015, 08:17:31 AM
Not having a 3DS, so having to skip on the new Shin Megami Tensei game, I can candidly say I have zero interest in every single game listed there. Sad times.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on April 08, 2015, 09:06:06 AM
It's not actually a new one; it's a remake of Devil Survivor 2 which was an original DS game. I'll elaborate on the JRPGs Velorath skipped when I get home.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Zetor on April 08, 2015, 10:54:44 AM
AFAIK Operation Abyss: New Tokyo Legacy is a remake of the first two games in the Generation XTH trilogy for the PC (2008-2010ish). I played the first game of the series, and found it to be a really good dungeon crawler (I definitely liked it better than its contemporaries Dark Spire, Etrian Odyssey and Elminage Gothic, anyway). My only beef is that it's Yet Another Wizardry 1-3 Clone on a basic gameplay level.

Seriously considering getting a Vita just for that game and Demon Gaze (same dev)... we'll see.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on April 08, 2015, 10:59:51 AM
It's the same dev but I don't think it's a remake. I've played Demon Gaze but wouldn't rate it better than the EO series; are the Generatiom XTH games that good?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Zetor on April 08, 2015, 11:13:25 AM
It's definitely a remake of XTH... same characters, same plot, same maps, etc (from what little I've seen in the trailers and that brief Twitch stream they did, anyway). There are some new additions like a FOE system and bounties, there's a proper intro dungeon and one of the main bosses is a bit uh... more palatable, but other than that it seems to be faithful to the original. I did a LP here (http://brokenforum.com/index.php?threads/with-our-powers-combined-we-are-x-force-lets-play-code-hazard-finished.8401/) if you're curious.

I mainly liked it for a few reasons:
- the map design is really good. The critical path dungeon maps aren't too complex, but their layout makes sense and stuff. The optional dungeon maps (Babel) can be pretty fucking evil at times.
- the setting (cyberpunk > fantasy) and a relative lack of ridiculous fan-service (there's a lot of "oh, Japan" in the main plot, but I think that's expected).
- with all the pacing issues, I still liked its balance between combat and noncombat sections (counterpoint: Demon Gaze, where it's pretty much alternating between "clear dungeon" and "endure 15-20min cutscene").
- zero grinding... I've completed the entire game and most of the postgame without grinding at any point. There's SOME grinding for a particular postgame mission, but I just didn't bother finishing that one. Choosing the right tactics for a particular boss fight matters a lot more than itemlevels.
- no ridiculous stat inflation that lots of dungeon crawlers are prone to (Elminage is probably the bestworst example here)
- completely subjective opinion: mapping isn't limited by consumables (screw you, Elminage), nor do you have to draw your own map (screw you, EO).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on April 08, 2015, 11:42:27 AM
Ahh, mostly personal preference then. I like fantasy more than cyberpunk, and I love me some fanservice. Doing my own mapping in EO is cool too; brings back that old school feel of pnp mapping.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on April 08, 2015, 02:51:36 PM
I can candidly say I have zero interest in every single game listed there. Sad times.

I'd agree with you except Mortal Kombat X is probably my most anticipated game for the rest of the year aside from unknown stuff like No Man's Sky which could turn out amazing or really shitty or not even end up coming out this year.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on April 08, 2015, 03:16:33 PM
Coming Soon: Weeaboo Edition

Omega Quintet - PS4 - 4/28 A Compa/IF JRPG (so schild will surely hate it) that's also part idol sim (think Love Live or any of the Miku games). It's going to be fanservice-tastic but probably nothing special in terms of gameplay.

Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor 2 Record Breaker - 3DS - 5/5 A port of SMT:DS2 that features a new post-game chapter, more voice acting, and a bunch of other random stuff. It's a grid-based SMT SRPG.

Hyperdimension Neptunia U: Action Unleashed - Vita - 5/19 A Nep Nep game made by Tamsoft (see Onechanbara, below) so it will be full of action and fanservice instead of the standard turn based Nep Nep gameplay.

Lord of Magna: Maiden Heaven - 3DS - 5/25 An SRPG who's combat is similar to Valkyria Chronicles. It's also got romance options, so you can have waifus. Graphics are standard 3d-3DS game crap, so I might pass. Y U NO USE SPRITES NEMORE!?

Hatsune Miku: Project Mirai DX - 3DS - 5/25 A rhythm game with chibi 3d graphics; also features touch screen controls for the first time.

Operation Abyss: New Tokyo Legacy - Vita - 6/9 A Wizardry clone that's apparently a port of an older one that never made it stateside.

Oneechanbara Z2: Chaos - 'Banana Split' Edition - PS4 - 6/30 Fanservice and zombie killing, what's not to love?

Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;Birth3: V Generation - Vita - 6/30 The third installment in the main series of Nep Nep games, with it's more traditional RPG combat. The Vita ports of these have been much better than the PS3 originals, and the story is always hilarious and full of anime/game references.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on April 08, 2015, 03:45:51 PM
Which ones have the most fan service? :pedobear:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on April 08, 2015, 03:52:44 PM
Every single one of those titles is top to bottom fan service. Including Devil Survivor.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on April 09, 2015, 07:11:54 AM
Which ones have the most fan service? :pedobear:

Oneechanbara, easily.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Outlawedprod on April 10, 2015, 05:27:55 PM
Darkside Games unable to deliver Phantom Dust multiplayer game for 5 million. MS cuts ties.
http://kotaku.com/how-a-small-game-studio-almost-made-it-big-1696997142




Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on April 10, 2015, 05:39:45 PM
Calling it Babel and only dumping $2M into it doesn't jive with me.

I like codenames that fit the product.

"Discarded Child" would've worked well here.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goreschach on April 10, 2015, 05:48:56 PM
http://kotaku.com/how-a-small-game-studio-almost-made-it-big-1696997142

Dumbasses all around.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on April 11, 2015, 08:04:04 AM
Dragon's Dogma Online by the end of the year. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sek-aiK9BdA) PS3, PS4 and PC.



(http://cdn4.dualshockers.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/DragonDogmaOnline-9.jpg?eaa32f)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on April 11, 2015, 10:52:19 AM
God that looks fun. I don't think they've announced for the west yet though. I really hope it's good.

I started a third playthrough of DD this week and I realized it's probably my favorite game in the past five, maybe ten years.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 13, 2015, 05:41:30 PM
FUUUUUCCKKKIIIINNNNGGGG  AAAAMMMIIIIBBBBOOOOOOSSS


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on April 15, 2015, 09:18:25 PM
EA is closing four of its online games, not that anyone really cares.   Battlefield Heroes, Battlefield Play4Free, Need for Speed World and FIFA World.  Apart from Battlefield Heroes (briefly), I haven't played them so I can't comment on their quality.  Also mentioned in the link below is that SWTOR is doing really well and they plan on adding more story driven game updates.  Probably going to put everyone who wasn't fired from those four other games to work on SWTOR.

http://www.mmobomb.com/news/ea-announces-closure-4-games-praising-swtor/



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on April 15, 2015, 11:46:00 PM
I've played all 4 of those F2P games and unless you can't afford their for pay counterparts, they were nothing to write home about. Everything they did for free was done better in the paid versions.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on April 17, 2015, 05:56:09 AM
Wasn't Battlefield Heroes the one where the devs did that big presentation basically saying P2W was the best way to go and okay because free players felt "Accomplishment" from killing people with P2W items?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 17, 2015, 07:58:15 AM
The only accomplishment I've ever felt from a video game was turning it off to accomplish something. Games are for not accomplishing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on April 17, 2015, 01:10:43 PM
STAR WARS BATTLEFRONT REVEAL TRAILER (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwWLns7-xN8)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shannow on April 17, 2015, 01:29:52 PM
Game engine footage my arse.

Will still buy.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 17, 2015, 02:02:31 PM
Game engine != game play. Even EQ1 was way nicer in beta than after 'optimizations'.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on April 17, 2015, 05:01:03 PM
Game engine footage my arse.

Will still buy.

Exactly.  In engine footage is not the same as in game.  But, yeah, day 1 purchase for me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on April 17, 2015, 10:58:16 PM
Yeah, there is no way that what they are claiming as in-game footage will be obtainable outside of that .001% that have the very best GPUs and CPUs.  Which of course means that I now have to figure out how to be in that .001% because that looks goddamn flabbergastingly amazing.  Honestly, if it even looks sorta close to that, then just take my money right now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on April 18, 2015, 12:09:48 AM
"In-engine" is meaningless these days.

Many engines have built-in support for cutscene editing, including the use of better models, more elaborate lighting, etc. It's also possible to do tricks like capture the footage at 10FPS with a slowed-down internal clock then speed it back up to make it appear 30 or 60.

"In-engine" really just means "on a computer."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on April 19, 2015, 08:55:01 PM
It's a DICE game right? Wait until 6-7 months after release and see if it's still kicking. If it is, buy it on the cheap. If not, move on with your life. Gives them time to fix all of the stuff that will be utterly broken and unfun, and go on sale a few times.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on April 20, 2015, 05:47:31 AM
It could be a Serek Dmart game and yet based on the IP, the time period in said IP, and that trailer, I'd still buy it on day 1. I wanted to pilot an AT-AT since 1980. I just can't wait one single day more than the release date. Hell, I might consider preordering.

And yes, that's clearly NOT in-game footage but I don't care.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on April 20, 2015, 08:22:49 AM
It could be a Serek Dmart game and yet based on the IP, the time period in said IP, and that trailer, I'd still buy it on day 1. I wanted to pilot an AT-AT since 1980. I just can't wait one single day more than the release date. Hell, I might consider preordering.

And yes, that's clearly NOT in-game footage but I don't care.

AT-ATs have been pilotable for a long while now.  The two battlefront games before this one come to mind, both of which were actually pretty decent games in their times.  I know you know this already, just saying.  If this is just like BF1 or BF2 with 2015 uber graphics, that is all I need to be happy.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on April 20, 2015, 10:45:11 AM
"In-engine" is meaningless these days.

Many engines have built-in support for cutscene editing, including the use of better models, more elaborate lighting, etc. It's also possible to do tricks like capture the footage at 10FPS with a slowed-down internal clock then speed it back up to make it appear 30 or 60.

"In-engine" really just means "on a computer."

For a more visual example, here's a photoreal rendering produced on the Unreal Engine.:
https://docs.unrealengine.com/latest/INT/Resources/Showcases/RealisticRendering/index.html

Now go find a game that looks like that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on April 20, 2015, 01:39:22 PM
It could be a Serek Dmart game and yet based on the IP, the time period in said IP, and that trailer, I'd still buy it on day 1. I wanted to pilot an AT-AT since 1980. I just can't wait one single day more than the release date. Hell, I might consider preordering.

And yes, that's clearly NOT in-game footage but I don't care.

AT-ATs have been pilotable for a long while now.  The two battlefront games before this one come to mind, both of which were actually pretty decent games in their times.  I know you know this already, just saying.  If this is just like BF1 or BF2 with 2015 uber graphics, that is all I need to be happy.

 

Yes, I know. But this is the first time that it'll look fucking real. I just can't pass on that. And I agree on the rest, I loved BF1 and BF2 (both Battlefront 1 & 2 and Battlefield 1 & 2) so I am gonna jump on this. I honestly believe they can ruin it, but it'll take effort.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on April 23, 2015, 03:17:55 PM
Has this been posted yet?

Mad Max gameplay preview.  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKRGvSi5xXk) Looks like a Shadow of Mordor reskin.  Could be fun.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on April 24, 2015, 07:18:45 AM
Definitely keeping an eye out for that. Could be lots of fun.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on April 24, 2015, 10:28:30 AM
oooooo.   :heart:  I hope it's bausome.  I hadn't even heard of this and for some reason two days ago, I bought the Road Warriors/Beyond Thunderdome DVD set.  Spooky, no?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on April 27, 2015, 05:02:14 PM
Konami confirmed that Silent Hills has been canceled which isn't surprising following Kojima leaving. The teaser (P.T.) is being pulled off of PSN on the 29th.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on April 27, 2015, 06:15:02 PM
Such a shame. Del Toro can't get anything done in any industry.

Well, nothing cool at least (RIP Mountains of Madness).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on April 27, 2015, 06:44:08 PM
Konami confirmed that Silent Hills has been canceled which isn't surprising following Kojima leaving. The teaser (P.T.) is being pulled off of PSN on the 29th.

I'm hearing rumbling that Konami's entire gaming division is headed for rough waters and the company's looking to focus more on mobile titles, maybe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMK-kajdgMA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMK-kajdgMA)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on April 28, 2015, 10:15:24 PM
Konami confirmed that Silent Hills has been canceled which isn't surprising following Kojima leaving. The teaser (P.T.) is being pulled off of PSN on the 29th.

I'm hearing rumbling that Konami's entire gaming division is headed for rough waters and the company's looking to focus more on mobile titles, maybe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMK-kajdgMA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMK-kajdgMA)

Wouldn't be surprising. They say they'll be doing more Metal Gear but that could just mean letting Platinum do more Rising games for them. Castlevania is pretty much dead as a franchise. I wasn't entirely sad to see Igarashi go because I think his style of Castlevania games have run their course a bit, but they're certainly still better than the Lords of Shadow stuff which tanked. Silent Hills was the first sign of promise that franchise showed since Silent Hill 2, but now that's done with. Pro Evolution Soccer is the only series they have left they're actually doing anything with.

The news section of their website mentions Gradius V going up on PSN, a Star Wars Contra mini game as part of some Star Wars mobile app, another mobile app called Swords and Poker, and MGS V and PES stuff. After MGS V they have no games announced (presumably they're working on PES 16). I seem to recall hearing that Konami's E3 booth last year was largely a barren wasteland (they had a behind closed doors thing for MGS and closed off area for PES I think) and that one of the only reasons they showed up is because they didn't want to give up their claim to the prime real estate they have there.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on April 29, 2015, 04:20:25 AM
Konami earns much more selling pachinko and video gambling machines, mobile games and running health clubs than they do with their console games division. The CEO and owner of Konami is also lobbying to make casinos and casino gambling legal in Japan, where it currently isn't.

I guess that their investors are much more eager for Konami to expand their gambling business and mobile games divisions - both are hugely profitable and dwarf the games divisions - than to spend a huge amount of money on risky AAA development and on stroking Kojima's ego. The biggest announcement from Konami - other than the whole Kojima deal - was a Contra themed video gambling machine for casinos and plans to expand that product line to other licenses and brands.

So I expect Konami to stop their AAA games development efforts entirely and to fold the remaining talent into their gambling and mobile divisions to work on new products there.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 29, 2015, 12:50:15 PM
Konami confirmed that Silent Hills has been canceled which isn't surprising following Kojima leaving. The teaser (P.T.) is being pulled off of PSN on the 29th.

I am very disappointed.  Really.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on April 29, 2015, 01:31:44 PM
I am also sad.  :(


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on April 29, 2015, 01:49:55 PM
Apparently, people are trying to sell PS4 with the discontinued P.T. demo preinstalled for 700+ dollars on eBay. Not sure if they are succeeding.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nija on April 30, 2015, 07:59:19 AM
What, really? I have it installed...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on April 30, 2015, 08:07:14 AM
Spermination (http://store.steampowered.com/app/363460/)  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on April 30, 2015, 08:06:21 PM
Spermination (http://store.steampowered.com/app/363460/)  :why_so_serious:

"Can you beat off your competition and come first?"
What? :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MahrinSkel on April 30, 2015, 10:13:10 PM
Spermination (http://store.steampowered.com/app/363460/)  :why_so_serious:
TotallyLegitGameReviews recommends it (http://store.steampowered.com/curator/6944488-Totallylegitgamereviews/?appid=363460):
Quote
Spermination
"It seems that natural selection, when exposed to loadouts and weapons, seems to produce slightly disturbing child offspring. Darwin would be confused."

(http://i.imgur.com/Oj5an6t.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on May 01, 2015, 09:44:10 AM
(http://jdrewscott.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/amnioticattica.png)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on May 01, 2015, 12:38:32 PM
Hey, it supports the Oculus Rift, so I'm in!!!

 :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on May 01, 2015, 12:48:46 PM
Overkill's (Payday) take on Walking Dead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn9cp_IMXhI

EDIT: Apparently the trailer is old. The news is just that it is confirmed for 2016  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on May 08, 2015, 03:09:56 PM
And this is why pc gaming > console gaming (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGqI_AcSNHw)  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on May 08, 2015, 03:11:59 PM
That reminds me of my early experiments in Half-Life modding, when I made a crossbow whose bolts dropped a trail of snarks as they flew.   :drill:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on May 23, 2015, 10:59:34 AM
If you happen to have Origin already installed for whatever reason, they are giving away Ultima 8 Pagan for free.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MahrinSkel on May 23, 2015, 12:59:20 PM
That reminds me of my early experiments in Half-Life modding, when I made a crossbow whose bolts dropped a trail of snarks as they flew.   :drill:
Did any of them turn out to be boojums?

--Dave


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on May 23, 2015, 03:02:41 PM
I got your reference, but no.

(https://33.media.tumblr.com/6bbac9cb562ccd418528394cea2619be/tumblr_n4t7os3xGI1sbfmh7o1_500.gif)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bunk on May 26, 2015, 06:05:46 AM
If you happen to have Origin already installed for whatever reason, they are giving away Ultima 8 Pagan for free.

They can keep it. (first game to ever make me want to write hate mail to a designer)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on May 28, 2015, 03:08:08 AM
Oh yesss!!! 1990's "Dragon Wars" now available on GOG  :heart:
http://www.gog.com/game/dragon_wars

(http://static.gog.com/upload/images/2015/05/c8eadf355df2966e8e5de91da8546f4e659b2bf3.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on May 28, 2015, 03:20:49 AM
Interesting.  Despite my deep love of BT and related games, I've never seen that one.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on May 29, 2015, 02:46:11 PM
NVIDIA Shield console was just released all of a sudden.  Just ordered one, I should have it Sunday.

Streaming games to my couch, here we go.......


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on May 29, 2015, 07:37:25 PM
Really?  I played Dragon Wars over so many times.  It essentially had a new-game+ mode like Wasteland where you can keep taking your party through it.  There was some 'feature' where you could quickly get to the underworld, get some points, beat the game, and start over, too.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Zetor on May 29, 2015, 09:37:19 PM
Yeah, Dragon Wars was my go-to dungeon crawler back in the day (I definitely played it more than Bard's Tale)... I remember it having more quirkiness and character than BT. I mean, come on, the bad guy's name was "Ratman" backwards.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fordel on May 29, 2015, 09:43:04 PM
NVIDIA Shield console was just released all of a sudden.  Just ordered one, I should have it Sunday.

Streaming games to my couch, here we go.......

They made a console?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MahrinSkel on May 29, 2015, 10:08:22 PM
NVIDIA Shield console was just released all of a sudden.  Just ordered one, I should have it Sunday.

Streaming games to my couch, here we go.......

They made a console?
They made an Android set-top box that will play the games that have been made for their Shield tablet and Shield portable (essentially a 5-inch Android tablet mated to a console controller). An Ouya that isn't gimped as a Smart TV device, essentially.

http://shield.nvidia.com/android-tv

--Dave


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on May 30, 2015, 08:06:20 AM
Well also supports their Gamestream system, allowing you to stream games from 660 GTX and above over LAN (technically WAN works too but my upload has never been good enough to see it work well for non-turn based games).  That's one of the big reasons I"m personally getting it.

Over wifi I was able to play borderlands pretty perfectly with the Shield tablet from my bedroom at 1366x786 resolution (streaming from my desktop gaming pc several rooms away), so hooking this up to my gigabit LAN should let me play almost anything at 1080p on my big screen tv.

Also, unlike the Ouya it has a wireless 360 adapter :D


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on May 31, 2015, 06:59:38 PM
Ok, this Nvidia Shield Android TV is officially awesome.

Not only does streaming games from my desktop at 1080p over my Gigabit network make games feel like they are local (literally feel no lag or picture quality degregation), I just got done playing 2 hours of streaming Batman Arkham Origins from NVIDIA's Grid servers and could barely tell it wasn't locally.  It was 720p instead of 1080p but whatever still fantastic.  I only have 18/2 internet speed, and I'm a good distance from the DSL node, so I don't really have good internet at all.

Now I need to test if hooking a keyboard and mouse will work well, to play FPS games without a controller.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on June 01, 2015, 09:14:18 AM
That XCom 2 trailer was nice.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on June 01, 2015, 09:45:06 AM
I have to say a tablet to stream games from my pc with good controller support (MOGA is, ehm, ok at best) is pretty tempting. If it has keyb/m support and can stream over the internet so I can play minecraft for reals? Yeah.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on June 01, 2015, 09:53:37 AM
That XCom 2 trailer was nice.


Yes.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on June 01, 2015, 01:21:37 PM
Ok, this Nvidia Shield Android TV is officially awesome.

Not only does streaming games from my desktop at 1080p over my Gigabit network make games feel like they are local (literally feel no lag or picture quality degregation), I just got done playing 2 hours of streaming Batman Arkham Origins from NVIDIA's Grid servers and could barely tell it wasn't locally.  It was 720p instead of 1080p but whatever still fantastic.  I only have 18/2 internet speed, and I'm a good distance from the DSL node, so I don't really have good internet at all.

Now I need to test if hooking a keyboard and mouse will work well, to play FPS games without a controller.

This thing have any capacity for a media streamer too? For instance, will it stream from a non-NVIDIA machine running a Kodi(XBMC) media center?

I wasn't too happy with the tablet as far as in-house network streaming, but now I think about it I haven't tried it after replacing some of the wi-fi links with cable (both my media center and gaming machine are hardwired to the router now). But the lack of keyboard support is a killer anyway.

Now, if the console can handle mouse and keyboard, I'm in.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on June 01, 2015, 07:44:38 PM
Ok, this Nvidia Shield Android TV is officially awesome.

Not only does streaming games from my desktop at 1080p over my Gigabit network make games feel like they are local (literally feel no lag or picture quality degregation), I just got done playing 2 hours of streaming Batman Arkham Origins from NVIDIA's Grid servers and could barely tell it wasn't locally.  It was 720p instead of 1080p but whatever still fantastic.  I only have 18/2 internet speed, and I'm a good distance from the DSL node, so I don't really have good internet at all.

Now I need to test if hooking a keyboard and mouse will work well, to play FPS games without a controller.

This thing have any capacity for a media streamer too? For instance, will it stream from a non-NVIDIA machine running a Kodi(XBMC) media center?

I wasn't too happy with the tablet as far as in-house network streaming, but now I think about it I haven't tried it after replacing some of the wi-fi links with cable (both my media center and gaming machine are hardwired to the router now). But the lack of keyboard support is a killer anyway.

Now, if the console can handle mouse and keyboard, I'm in.

It comes with Plex and I've used it to stream media from my office/gaming PC.  I've heard people have sideloaded Kodi successfully but I've never had a reason t try it out. 

Having at least one of your computers (either the streamer or the receiver) hard wired is pretty necessary imo, having both on Wifi will probably get pretty ugly unless both are in close proximity to the wifi router (fine for the tablet but pointless for the Shield TV).  But for the tablet that would be fine but I think getting the Shield TV for streaming is a waste for streaming if both ends aren't hard wired.  If the SHield TV is hard wired you can at least get good Grid performance (theoretically) but local streaming is going to suffer, and while over wifi I can play games on my Shield Tablet perfectly, the shield tablet plays games at *much* lower resolution than the TV and to get good performance you will probably have to downscale the stream on your TV.  At that point you might as well just hook a Shield Tablet up to the TV unless you really want a $200 media server and android console.

I have heard people using the Logitech K400 successfully with the Shield TV, though the mouse acted kind of wierd.  I'm pretty sure on the tablet I have played using the controller's trackpad area to click on icons in the main sysem but it's been a while since I tried.  It's Android, which does have KB/M support so I don't see why it wouldn't work (I do intend to try it but right now all the games I am playing are controller based games).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on June 02, 2015, 11:43:43 AM
Steam's new refund policy is remarkably generous (http://store.steampowered.com/steam_refunds/)

One very interesting quote:

Quote
We do not consider it abuse to request a refund on a title that was purchased just before a sale and then immediately rebuying that title for the sale price.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on June 02, 2015, 11:52:11 AM
Huh. Valve has enough money hats now?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 02, 2015, 11:53:36 AM
That's how the refund policy fucking should be.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on June 02, 2015, 12:20:19 PM
It's no skin off Valve's back since customers probably tend to use money at a certain rate regardless of what's available and at what price. Also, it makes it easier to deal with the mountain of shit being released.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on June 02, 2015, 12:34:00 PM
Their old policy was so intentionally draconian, though, it's curious to me why they would do a complete 180.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on June 02, 2015, 12:36:51 PM
What was their old policy?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on June 02, 2015, 12:37:38 PM
You might get a single refund, maybe, if you complain loudly enough but don't ever ask for another one again or we will ban your account -- for reals.

Edit: here was the official wording from Google cache:
Quote
Steam Refund Policy
As with most software products, unless required by local law, we do not offer refunds or exchanges on games, DLC or in-game items purchased on our website or through the Steam Client.  Please review Section 3 of the Steam Subscriber Agreement for more information.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on June 02, 2015, 12:38:30 PM
 :ye_gods: :why_so_serious:
This is certainly a drastic change.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ard on June 02, 2015, 12:56:32 PM
it's curious to me why they would do a complete 180.


To sell mods.  That was like one of the top complaints in that firestorm.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on June 02, 2015, 12:58:53 PM
Ah yeah, that does make more sense.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on June 02, 2015, 02:34:05 PM
it's curious to me why they would do a complete 180.


To sell mods.  That was like one of the top complaints in that firestorm.

Probably, but I also like to believe that it's at least in part due to the recent flood of scam titles, like where people are just buying and reselling Unity asset packs as games.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on June 02, 2015, 02:37:21 PM
It's probably cheaper for them to hire a few curators than to give refunds, though, if that was the issue.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on June 02, 2015, 04:39:25 PM
Maybe it's because of EU laws, and it's easier to treat everyone the same.  Maybe they also realized the good-will it engenders isn't worth the pittance they'll lose by refunding a few games.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MahrinSkel on June 02, 2015, 09:35:59 PM
I think it's likely that many people are operating with a fairly set budget set aside for their Steam habit, so they'll get the money anyway. Less uncertainty when taking a flyer on a game, and goodwill, should make up the difference.

--Dave


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Quinton on June 02, 2015, 10:22:40 PM
Awesome change.  I've only ever (of nearly 200 assorted titles... ye gods I've bought too much shit on steam) wanted to return a game (it had some shitty third party DRM thing and was not clearly noted on the store page), but it really annoyed me that I could not.  Seems like a nice way to deal with possibly questionable early access and long tail titles that sometimes are massively disappointing.  If anything, I expect it will improve sales because people will be more willing to give something a try if they know they can get their money back if it's crap.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fordel on June 03, 2015, 02:44:47 AM
Someone did some math and found out that automating refunds is now more cost effective then simply not having refunds.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: apocrypha on June 03, 2015, 04:31:01 AM
The paid Skyrim mods fiasco pushed them too far into Renegade and they just wanted to get a few Paragon points back.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on June 04, 2015, 02:45:31 PM
"Divinity" series composer Kirill Pokrovsky has died:
http://www.pcgamer.com/divinity-composer-kirill-pokrovsky-has-died/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=156&v=-dStHe6h_Xg (performance itself starts at 2:30 with the Divine Divinity theme song. He was the composer for all the Divinity titles)
------

He has been ill for quite some time; infact, Larian had to recycle some of the songs from the previous titles (something that they would have done anyway, as far as I know) in order to complete the D:OS soundtrack.

Here's one I really like from D:OS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoTVxjLlypk


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 05, 2015, 04:29:49 PM
Big maybe fake rumor about Dark Souls 3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=109&v=dyRJ5u-L8qw


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on June 09, 2015, 08:16:41 AM
Chris Avellone has left Obsidian:

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2015-06-09-chris-avellone-leaves-obsidian


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bunk on June 09, 2015, 10:19:37 AM
Their old policy was so intentionally draconian, though, it's curious to me why they would do a complete 180.


This could be interesting, I just reopened a ticket from several years ago. A friend gifted me a Sims 3 DLC I was never able to install, because I didn't buy the main game on steam. At the time I asked for the option of equivalent credit so I would at least be able to honor my friend's gift in some way. They denied me flat out. It's been sitting in my inventory for years.

We'll see what they say.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bunk on June 29, 2015, 08:58:20 AM
So I had an urge to take a look at Elder Scrolls Online on my XBox. I knew it was a micro-transaction model, so I figured maybe they would be charging something reasonable for the base game. So I pull it up in the store:

$149.95   :ye_gods:

Oh, ok, that's some special super platinum edition with game cash. I dig some more. I find a second $125 version, then the $99.95 version.
Each version seems to have various add-ons included, such as equipment or the Imperial Race, or the ability to be cross faction races. I see that they have those individual add-ons available in the store as well.
Looking at the add-ons: no option to buy them, bundled only. So if I buy the base game, and then want the Imperial race later, I have to buy the whole bundle?   :uhrr:

Sigh... How about just the plain old base game, with no frills:  $69.95

Yea, I heard it was shitty anyways. I don't need this crap.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on June 29, 2015, 10:18:10 AM
It's a cash grab. While I'm likely going to lose my bet that it folds before 2016, it won't last much past that. It's not a SWTOR.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 01, 2015, 11:10:46 PM
M.U.L.E. Returns, on Steam Greenlight. (http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=315750594)

The game is 99.9% true to the original, except for the graphics and sounds which is sad but what can you do?


EDIT: Trailer added. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB-loLkZa00)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on July 02, 2015, 08:05:35 AM
I've never heard of the original, is it any good?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on July 02, 2015, 10:27:55 AM
It's horseshit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on July 02, 2015, 10:31:32 AM
It made no sense to me as a child, but it definitely has a cult following.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 02, 2015, 02:03:21 PM
It's widely considered one of the best games ever made.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on July 02, 2015, 02:06:35 PM
 :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on July 02, 2015, 02:11:01 PM
It's widely considered one of the best games ever made.

I don't think you can say that when it's your avatar.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 02, 2015, 02:30:19 PM
I didn't mean widely BY ME   :why_so_serious:

Just saying that on top of consistently appearing on a large number of "Top Games of all times" chartes, which we all agree are worth nothing, it comes up over and over as one of the favourite games of countless designers in all sorts of interviews.

With that said, anyone with a brain can try it and understand why it was and still is amazing, and thousands people still play it (http://www.planetmule.com/) 32 years later.

With that said, I must suspend my previous endorsement to the aforementioned and linked M.U.L.E. Returns as I confused it with Planet M.U.L.E. So Jury is still out on this remake. Planet M.U.L.E. on the other hand is quite perfect.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on July 02, 2015, 02:31:53 PM
Somebody fell into the sarchasm.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on July 03, 2015, 02:28:57 AM
I've never heard of it, though I have always been a fan of Falconeer's avatar.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 03, 2015, 03:58:20 AM
You deserved it, Cyrrex. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUne2oTbVpM)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on July 03, 2015, 05:31:04 AM
My own question is why does a game called MULE open up with a camel transversing the screen?

The music is a pure 10.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on July 07, 2015, 11:39:10 AM
18 minute gameplay video for No Man's Sky (http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/07/02/no-mans-sky-everything-you-need-to-know-ign-first).

Lots of interesting ideas, still not seeing the pull of the game once you explore a couple of planets.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 07, 2015, 12:57:30 PM
For people who aren't godless heathens: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLcjvIQJns0


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on July 09, 2015, 06:09:40 PM
The guys who made the Enhanced Editions of BG, BG2, and IWD just announced a new BG title, Siege of Dragonspear.

Not much info yet, but they've got some announcement stream going: http://www.baldursgate.com/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: drogg on July 09, 2015, 06:25:55 PM
The guys who made the Enhanced Editions of BG, BG2, and IWD just announced a new BG title, Siege of Dragonspear.

Not much info yet, but they've got some announcement stream going: http://www.baldursgate.com/
here's the fluff site: http://www.siegeofdragonspear.com/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on July 10, 2015, 06:56:49 PM
I just rewatched the Overwatch CG trailer and I'm legit wondering why Blizzard thinks they should be making another also-ran TF2/FPS MOBA thing instead of just making a movie since they are bad at making videogames now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on July 24, 2015, 07:44:44 PM
I know that this is pretty obvious from like every project they do but Tycho of Penny Arcade is a fucking horrendously bad writer.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on July 24, 2015, 09:59:21 PM
He has a certain schtick that is funny at times but tends to chafe with repeated applications.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on July 24, 2015, 11:55:48 PM
Ohh, is he doing another "let me tell you some dumb story that isn't related to video games or swearing" arc with the horribly drawn noses?  I tend to wander off with PA nowadays.  I can barely remember to check it.

edit:  :ye_gods: yep.  Fuck.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 25, 2015, 08:14:58 AM
I stick to Oglaf and PBF. Artistic and funny.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: apocrypha on July 25, 2015, 12:15:33 PM
I stick to Oglaf and PBF. Artistic and funny.

SMBC (http://www.smbc-comics.com/) is a good one too.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on July 25, 2015, 03:13:18 PM
Diablowitcher, the trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OxPKOMRmdg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on July 25, 2015, 03:16:53 PM
I stick to Oglaf and PBF. Artistic and funny.

SMBC (http://www.smbc-comics.com/) is a good one too.

I can see why it would be popular with the F13 crowd  :why_so_serious:

(http://i.imgur.com/tgMVSHv.gif)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on July 25, 2015, 05:20:15 PM
Not even a proper flowchart. "Shoot yourself" is not a conditional. Geez.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MahrinSkel on July 25, 2015, 05:22:38 PM
I can see why it would be popular with the F13 crowd  :why_so_serious:
][>:=~+


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on July 27, 2015, 09:45:12 AM
Diablowitcher, the trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OxPKOMRmdg)

Maybe.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Zetor on July 29, 2015, 06:52:19 AM
I didn't want to start a new thread for this, since this is "announcement of an announcement" territory, but...

Remember MechWarrior Tactics and the way it just kinda died? Well, it looks like there'll be a new turn-based tactical BattleTech game by the creators of Shadowrun Returns / Dragonfall (lead by some random dude called Jordan Weisman), with a kickstarter launching in Sept. Website here (http://battletechgame.com).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shannow on July 29, 2015, 07:06:19 AM
They had me at
Quote
the game will feature an open-ended Mercenaries-style campaign that blends RPG ‘Mech and MechWarrior management with modern turn-based tactics.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 29, 2015, 07:54:01 AM
I hate when they don't let you throw money at them right away.

Not a big fan of the new font.


(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3584773/battletech%201514623_860811160653719_3122023494501296302_n.png)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on July 29, 2015, 07:56:46 AM
Coming to Kickstarter this Fall!  :uhrr:  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mac on July 29, 2015, 08:03:58 AM
If I pre-frund do I get Early Access to the Kickstarter ?.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shannow on July 29, 2015, 08:26:10 AM
I hate when they don't let you throw money at them right away.

Agreed! What's wrong with us.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on July 29, 2015, 08:49:12 AM
You're morons?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on July 29, 2015, 09:04:19 AM
I was going to post "You're the problem" but decided that was a mean thing to write. :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shannow on July 29, 2015, 09:08:06 AM
I'm sure we all have our blind spots.

Thanks Yegolev  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on July 29, 2015, 10:01:46 AM
Well, at least these fuckers have shown they can put out a good product with crowdfunded money. Shadowrun Returns was fucking awesome. I have more faith in them than anyone else who's gone this route.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nija on July 29, 2015, 10:06:41 AM
Stop paying for preorders and CERTAINLY don't back anything through crowd funding.

fucking_stop_it_already.gif


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shannow on July 29, 2015, 10:12:40 AM
Hey to be honest I paid 40 bucks (and btw that's how big my blind spot is, exactly 40 dollars) for MechWarrior Online and I got way more than 40 dollars worth of entertainment out of it plus all the benefits of being a founder. The Star Citizen clusterfuck is obviously the big sucking chest wound example of why not to fund early access shit but if a legitimate company with a decent track record (I too like Shadowrun) is making a game that you really could love then I'd say kickstart them a REASONABLE amount of dosh.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goreschach on July 29, 2015, 11:40:06 AM
If it's a legitimate company with a decent track record then they can afford to fund their own fucking game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on July 29, 2015, 11:46:13 AM
I'm not giving them any crowdfunding money, but they are one of the few companies that have made crowdfunding games that have actually delivered what they promised.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on July 29, 2015, 12:49:05 PM
You're morons?


 :why_so_serious: :drill:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Zetor on July 29, 2015, 12:51:18 PM
If it's a legitimate company with a decent track record then they can afford to fund their own fucking game.
fwiw HBS is using kickstarter more as a preorder / PR vehicle than anything else. They already had Shadowrun: Hong Kong budgeted before its KS, basically the entire thing was just a sequence of stretch goals (more content, reworked matrix, etc). I expect the same will be true for Battletech, to a point.

If they're getting advance 'preorder' $$/free publicity and the fans are happy in the end, who cares, right?   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 29, 2015, 02:14:44 PM
The only pre-order pre-funding early-access kickstarter whatever money I've ever regretted are the ones I put into the MechWarrior one that folded last year without ever being released. That hurt.
Everything else worked and delivered so far for me.

Anyway, it's interesting to notice (from that poster) that for this new BattleTech game HBS is clearly using the 'mech designs from MechWarrior Online.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Druzil on July 30, 2015, 06:22:56 AM
Without crowd funding how would we get gems like this?

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/shaq-fu-a-legend-reborn#/story 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 30, 2015, 06:26:00 AM
Sakura Clicker (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EbjZrKWilM)

 :uhrr:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on July 30, 2015, 06:58:36 AM
Still fewer clicks to see boobs than most 'dating' sims.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on July 30, 2015, 01:20:51 PM
800+ moans according to the Steam store page!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on July 31, 2015, 11:37:08 AM
My kid wants the Escapists game - can anyone chime in on the appropriateness of the game? I know nothing about it, other than escaping from prisons. We give her a lot of leeway because we're really active in discussing things with her, and she can usually handle heavy topics. But if it's all stabbing guards and selling coke to escape, then nope.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on July 31, 2015, 11:53:40 AM
Do you want her learning to sell coke on the streets?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on July 31, 2015, 01:33:33 PM
A little entrepreneurial spirit is good for everyone, I say.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on August 04, 2015, 10:07:48 AM
I can't tell if we're shark jumping, or if games are being made for people much younger than I. The Scalebound gameplay looks great, until the beats headphones playing dubstep while fighting with his dragon in a fantasy world happened.

I can't even wrap my head around how much I dislike that character. Not that I was going to ever own an Xbone, but w/e.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 04, 2015, 10:23:16 AM
I would guess that it is a generation thing, but then again game characters have always been kinda awful.  This was mitigated by us being in middle school, since I've at least learned (via scientific analysis) that kids can't tell the difference between quality and garbage.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shannow on August 04, 2015, 11:31:41 AM
My 14 year old at various times has professed to liking: the prequels, the Hobbit movies and Coldplay. That's scientific enough for me that kids have no fucking clue.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 04, 2015, 01:18:09 PM
Additional proof is watching things that I liked as a kid.  Some of those are very, very bad.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on August 04, 2015, 04:41:37 PM
Additional proof is watching things that I liked as a kid.  Some of those are very, very bad.

Oh.God, tell me about it.  I caught a couple of eps of the original GI Joe cartoon a little while ago, and I can only conclude that my eight year old self was fucking retarded.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on August 04, 2015, 04:58:10 PM
Yeah, well, I watched and liked this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUYesRQsDz8

(I also bought the interactive toys  :ye_gods:)





Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on August 05, 2015, 03:08:52 AM
Hawkbit, you have to keep in mind that this is not an example of what young people today like. It's an example of what  marketing executives and creative directors aged 40+ think that the young generation likes. That gameplay trailer surely wasn't made by a team of people in the age bracket of the target audience. It was made by the marketing team of the developer or publisher (probably publisher) and that is probably what those people think might appeal to the target demographic. That#s why it's so cringeworthy.

If a bunch of twenty year olds had made that it would also be cringeworthy but look entierly different.

That#s also why I can't for the love of god bring myself to watch any of the keynotes and big presentations because it's always a 40 years+ CEO or marketing exec pandering t an audience that is twenty years younger than him and that he totally doesn't understand.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on August 05, 2015, 05:07:52 PM
Journey of the Light, if you haven't been following it, has been pretty hilarious.  Billed as the "hardest game ever" it turns out that indeed the only person to ever get the achievement for beating the first (or any) level is the game's dev.  Then someone edited the map files in order to at least see what level 2 looks like and it turns out all the other levels are just the exact same map copy/pasted ten times and then renamed.  So it looks more than a bit scammy.

The dev swears that this was a build error and the other levels do exist, but won't say how to beat level one to see them (he did helpfully provide hints on how to beat level 2, though).  Steam apparently disagrees, disabled sales of the game and are offering refunds regardless of time /played (the dev was hinting at there being some vital clues in the trading cards, which you can't get until you've run out the refund timer).

It was developed by a single guy called Lord Kres who has one other game on Steam (Voxelized, an early access minecraft clone whose list of incomplete features apparently includes the ability to actually place any blocks at all) who is maybe slightly better known for complaining about how badly Steam refunds were hurting "indie devs"
https://twitter.com/LordKres/status/608562698968805376 (https://twitter.com/LordKres/status/608562698968805376)

Some screenshots:
https://imgur.com/a/yceJt#_=_ (https://imgur.com/a/yceJt#_=_)

Jim Sterling on the topic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LBG51Pafig (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LBG51Pafig)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 06, 2015, 05:55:36 AM
Yeah, well, I watched and liked this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUYesRQsDz8

(I also bought the interactive toys  :ye_gods:)


Ugh, so did I.  Let's not talk about it.  Even though I enjoyed it at the time.

Also useless: I spent 80 minutes in TESO and I didn't do anything except open mail, put crap in the bank, deconstruct blacksmithing items, and generally organize my inventory.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on August 06, 2015, 08:12:08 AM
Yeah, well, I watched and liked this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUYesRQsDz8

(I also bought the interactive toys  :ye_gods:)


Ugh, so did I.  Let's not talk about it.  Even though I enjoyed it at the time.

Also useless: I spent 80 minutes in TESO and I didn't do anything except open mail, put crap in the bank, deconstruct blacksmithing items, and generally organize my inventory.



This is my problem with TESO, too.  I can spend so much time running around doing exactly that stuff that I don't feel like adventuring anymore.  It's as bad as house chores.

And is anyone playing Project Spark?  If so, what do you think? 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 06, 2015, 08:15:11 AM
Well, I don't get yelled at if I skip TESO inventory management for a week.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on August 06, 2015, 08:21:28 AM
Why does everyone want to yell at you?   Also, I got my Project Spark key from Alienware giveaways but they're disamapearing fast.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 06, 2015, 08:27:28 AM
I'm one of those laid-back people that get pushed around by default.  If I don't do household chores, though, the wife is angry and I have to smell things.  TESO does not produce a discernible odor and it isn't visible to guests.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on August 06, 2015, 08:34:06 AM
Okay, you guys, especially you guys with kids and who are kids (like me!) this Project Spark looks awesome for the young of brain and age.  I think you might be able to be a squirrel, too, so you could name yourself Applecheeks!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 06, 2015, 09:46:09 AM
Looks like it has XBONE-itis.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on August 06, 2015, 09:53:01 AM
I dl'd it and started the tutorial and mouse and keyboard seems perfectly fine.  It is so fucking adorable and I would love it more if I were 7.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 06, 2015, 09:54:54 AM
PCitis is even worse.  Kids don't play PC games, especially if they have old shitty laptops.

Not that I'm complaining about the suggestion!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on August 07, 2015, 04:29:43 AM
With how much discussion there is on World of Tanks and World of Warships I'm surprised I don't see more mention about the new Dreadnought trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2BWfI5hzPY)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Viin on August 07, 2015, 06:15:41 PM
Maybe I'm wrong but that looks fairly boring.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on August 08, 2015, 02:05:15 AM
World of Warships looks even more boring. But it isn't. It's all about execution though, and the little things. The king of slo-mo games is MechWarrior Online, which has been plagued by terrible execution since 2012 and is still doing well if not better than ever. Dreadnought could be great or a pile of shit. It's hard to say for me from the videos, but I certainly hope it'll be good. I already dumped 10$ on a clone of that called Fractured Space (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eupqxb10Qn4) that looks cool in trailers but it happens to be a stinker in execution.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on August 09, 2015, 10:04:17 AM
So that Lord British game... is that still real?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on August 09, 2015, 12:26:01 PM
Yes it is. But it's still super Early Access pre-Alpha stage and progressing so slowly tthat they recently started slapping a fair warning in ALL CAPS at the top of every new update. I am copy pasting it for you all:

Quote
WARNING: Read Negative Reviews BEFORE Purchasing

WARNING: THIS GAME IS EARLY ACCESS PRE-ALPHA. PLEASE DO NOT PURCHASE IT UNLESS YOU WANT TO ACTIVELY SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT OF THE GAME VIA CROWD FUNDING, BUG TESTING, AND FEEDBACK. PLEASE ONLY PURCHASE IF YOU ARE ALSO PREPARED TO HANDLE PERIODIC WIPES, SERIOUS ISSUES AND INCOMPLETE CONTENT. PLEASE READ THE NEGATIVE REVIEWS PRIOR TO PURCHASE, MANY OF WHICH WARN YOU OF THE CURRENT UNFINISHED STATE OF THE GAME.

I am a supporter of such warnings.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on August 09, 2015, 12:34:36 PM
Yes it is. But it's still super Early Access pre-Alpha stage and progressing so slowly tthat they recently started slapping a fair warning in ALL CAPS at the top of every new update. I am copy pasting it for you all:

Quote
WARNING: Read Negative Reviews BEFORE Purchasing

WARNING: THIS GAME IS EARLY ACCESS PRE-ALPHA. PLEASE DO NOT PURCHASE IT UNLESS YOU WANT TO ACTIVELY SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT OF THE GAME VIA CROWD FUNDING, BUG TESTING, AND FEEDBACK. PLEASE ONLY PURCHASE IF YOU ARE ALSO PREPARED TO HANDLE PERIODIC WIPES, SERIOUS ISSUES AND INCOMPLETE CONTENT. PLEASE READ THE NEGATIVE REVIEWS PRIOR TO PURCHASE, MANY OF WHICH WARN YOU OF THE CURRENT UNFINISHED STATE OF THE GAME.

I am a supporter of such warnings.

I remember Clockwork Empires being good enough to post a similar warning, and I too support such reminders (although one world think it would be obvious, but apparently not...)

And that reminds me -- time to check back in with that game...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on August 10, 2015, 06:54:38 AM
Problem is there are a lot of early access games that are really fun to play (mostly with zombies, I guess). Hell, I was in Rift F&F alpha and it was actually close to what got released (read that as you will, heh).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Draegan on August 10, 2015, 07:22:12 AM
Problem is there are a lot of early access games that are really fun to play (mostly with zombies, I guess). Hell, I was in Rift F&F alpha and it was actually close to what got released (read that as you will, heh).

The game was actually better.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on August 10, 2015, 09:19:17 AM
I was trying to be nice  :grin:

Tabula Rasa was also pretty awesome in alpha and then the fun was quickly removed.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fordel on August 10, 2015, 03:25:43 PM
I promised my nephew the latest Pokemon for his birthday, what color/element/letter are we on now?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on August 10, 2015, 04:13:47 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_video_games#Main_series_titles

The latest actual game on the handheld are Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire. Remakes of the original Ruby & Sapphire for the 3DS.

Unless he meant one of the freemiums, but I doubt it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fordel on August 10, 2015, 04:46:14 PM
Ok, thank you.


He's been playing my old Red cart on my old gameboy with the original 100 or whatever it was. Those things are like 20 years old now or whatever  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on August 22, 2015, 03:14:34 PM
Not sure at this point if I'm the only person who enjoys the janky Gothic/Risen thing, but Risen 3 just got a graphic update: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/08/22/risen-3-titan-lords-graphics-upgrade-patch/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on August 25, 2015, 08:04:43 PM
Do you know you can pre-order Just Cause 3 and win an island?  An island.  A real one.  Link in the ocean and everything.  What???


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on August 26, 2015, 04:12:39 AM
New single player Secret World spinoff by Funcom. The Park. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1laEiebQ_E) Coming out in a month.

*serious photosensitive epilepsy warning*


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on August 26, 2015, 04:19:46 AM
I don't get it.  I watched it (without sound) and it looks like you're riding a rollercoaster in the twilight hours and maybe some lightning flashes or something.  How was that supposed to be scary?

Not that the idea of a scary amusement park is without legs, I can see that working somehow.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on August 26, 2015, 04:26:12 AM
Yeah, that was a pretty awful trailer for a game.  "Most Amusement Parks are happy places.... but not all of them."

Great writers they've got on this game, I'll tell you that much.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on August 26, 2015, 05:07:11 AM
One of the best parts of The Secret World was their scary amusement park zone. I guess they listened to all those (me included) who have been asking for a single player game out of The Secret World for about three years. Anyway, yeah, not great teaser. It only works if you know what it is referencing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rattran on August 26, 2015, 05:23:17 AM
Well, looks like a solid miss from the trailer. Unless it has the best roller coaster ever.

(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120805211242/creepypasta/images/e/e3/Mrbones.png)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on August 26, 2015, 06:13:21 AM
Rattran wins the thread for today.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on August 26, 2015, 07:01:17 AM
There's an RPGMaker Horror Game that just got greenlit that has a better trailer than that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaJjDMcmT-w


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on August 26, 2015, 07:24:58 AM
Do you know you can pre-order Just Cause 3 and win an island?  An island.  A real one.  Link in the ocean and everything.  What???

Quote
"One (1) Grand Prize Winner will win ownership rights to an Island, valued at up to $50,000 USD or $50,000 USD in cash. Location of Island to be determined by Sponsor. All taxes and fees associated with purchasing and obtaining of Island (including but not limited to attorney's fees, escrow, and closing costs) are the responsibility of the Winner," explained the official contest rules. "Sponsor does not guarantee the Island to be inhabitable, developed or reachable by any means other than a boat."

 :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on August 26, 2015, 08:06:05 AM
A $50,000 island would be really small.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on August 26, 2015, 08:25:31 AM
That sounds like a very inconvenient island.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Zetor on August 26, 2015, 09:12:47 AM


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on August 26, 2015, 10:04:02 AM


I remember sending people to one of those.  Ahh, youth. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on August 26, 2015, 10:22:26 AM
Youtube Gaming has launched:

https://gaming.youtube.com/


rip Twitch?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on August 26, 2015, 10:36:44 AM
Not unless they tone down their Content ID protection system.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on August 26, 2015, 10:56:38 AM
Not unless they tone down their Content ID protection system.

I can't imagine that twitch isn't getting massive pressure to implement a content id like system with how big they have gotten and being owned by the financial behemoth that is Amazon.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on August 26, 2015, 10:59:55 AM
Not unless they tone down their Content ID protection system.

I can't imagine that twitch isn't getting massive pressure to implement a content id like system with how big they have gotten and being owned by the financial behemoth that is Amazon.

They already mute content in VODs.  AFAIK, they don't touch the livestreams.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on August 26, 2015, 11:04:39 AM
That's right. YouTube Gaming, however, will muck with people's livestream.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on August 26, 2015, 11:23:19 AM
My point is I would be shocked if Twitch doesn't start doing the same in the next 6-8 months.  These companies are making too much money off of Content IDing the shit out of everything that they can't be pressuring twitch due to monetizing streams with their content being played on it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on August 26, 2015, 11:30:24 AM
It's possible. Or Amazon won't give a fuck since they don't live and die by advertising revenue like Google does.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on August 26, 2015, 12:16:31 PM
YouTube is still issuing content claims for game footage, though, not just soundtracks.  I can imagine this getting uncomfortable the instant Sega or whoever sees people streaming Sonic, and just runs down the list saying "all that ad money from all these channels is ours now, because some executive thought taking .07¢ from a kid getting five views is FREE MONEY YEAAAAAAAH WOOOOH."

Blip just died a few days ago, too... so there's a fairly large pile of archived game footage looking for a new home...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 26, 2015, 12:53:22 PM
I remember seeing many islands for sale, some under $30US, but of course none of them have water, power, or anything else you might expect in a place that is solidly connected to other places.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on August 26, 2015, 12:54:42 PM
Who is selling them? Who are the money going to? And where do you see island listings? eBay? Amazon? Craigslist? Seriously, I am curious.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on August 26, 2015, 02:19:20 PM
It's possible. Or Amazon won't give a fuck since they don't live and die by advertising revenue like Google does.


Doesn't really matter anyway, because Youtube's gaming website is terrible and laggy as all hell. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Engels on August 26, 2015, 02:38:12 PM
All Google needs to do is have a more relaxed cleavage policy than Twitch and music can go fuck itself. Money hats all round.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on August 26, 2015, 05:00:03 PM
Twitch's policy is already ridiculously lenient. Basically as long as you aren't wearing a bikini top or equivalent it's fine.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 27, 2015, 09:11:32 AM
Who is selling them? Who are the money going to? And where do you see island listings? eBay? Amazon? Craigslist? Seriously, I am curious.

It has been 2-3 years, or more, but I think it is a real estate company or set of companies.  I'd need to google something like "island real estate".


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Engels on August 27, 2015, 11:25:10 AM
Twitch's policy is already ridiculously lenient. Basically as long as you aren't wearing a bikini top or equivalent it's fine.


Really? I thought they'd become rather draconian after the Amazon purchase. I say this as a viewer; it used to be a cleavage fest and now it seems only one or two that are 'using their god given assets'.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on August 27, 2015, 03:41:24 PM
Plastic surgeons are gods now?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 27, 2015, 05:24:01 PM
I mean, by all definitions, they've always played god.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on August 27, 2015, 05:24:12 PM
Plastic surgeons are gods now?

I think that depends entirely on the quality of the finished product.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 27, 2015, 08:39:58 PM
Plastic surgeons are gods now?

I think that depends entirely on the quality of the finished product.
Wrong, botched plastic surgery is like the down syndrome of synthetic godliness.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on September 03, 2015, 02:26:39 PM
Sword Coast Legends finally got around to showing character creation and, surprisingly, it didn't look too bad....

http://www.twitch.tv/swordcoastlegends/v/14260518
 (http://www.twitch.tv/swordcoastlegends/v/14260518)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on September 03, 2015, 03:57:23 PM
Happy 25th birthday, Monkey Island (nice blog post by Ron Gilbert) :

http://grumpygamer.com/monkey25

(http://images.grumpygamer.com/floppies.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on September 04, 2015, 07:18:03 AM
What are those things?  And where do you stick them? 

Monkey Island =  :heart:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Miasma on September 04, 2015, 08:16:31 PM
No write protection?!?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on September 04, 2015, 08:48:06 PM
I was thinking about games in the early-mid 90s the other day. Didn't Arena come on like 13 3.5"s? I remember it having an inordinate number of disks, then only a few years later Daggerfall came on one CD.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: apocrypha on September 04, 2015, 11:00:39 PM
I used to go down to a market stall in Glasgow and the couple of guys there would take your order from a huge dot-matrix printed list of games and you'd give them cash and come back an hour later and they'd have copied your game onto a stack of floppy discs for you. I think the only reason they got away with it for so long was that the police didn't understand what they were doing.

But yeah, some of the stacks of discs were huge. I also remember installing Windows 3.11 from floppy discs. Man that was fun.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on September 04, 2015, 11:24:17 PM
Monkey Island 2 for the Amiga came on 12 3.5 inch floppy discs


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on September 05, 2015, 04:04:24 AM
Here's a trailer for the new BBC docudrama about the  the making of Grand Theft Auto (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHQI_MUbDGo). The presence of Danile Radcliffe makes it what has been described as a GTA/Harry Potter crossover fanfic, or Grand Theft Potter, but I am not gonna complain as I've been asking for movies about the making of videogames and computers since forever. Since I'm here, I'll suggest you all look into Halt and Catch Fire, a nice show about a company in the 80s trying to beat IBM at making portable computers, and Micro Men, another BBC movie about the competition between Sinclair and Acorn in the same era.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tmp on September 05, 2015, 04:13:36 AM
Monkey Island 2 for the Amiga came on 12 3.5 inch floppy discs
Sierra games were the fucking worst floppy disc ports I've seen in my life. They took many floppies, fair enough. But for whatever bonehead reason they put some of the files used everywhere on 1st disc only, so playing through every scene was exercise in endlessly swapping 1st disc, other disc, 1st disc, other disc, literally dozen+ times.

They worked ok if you had two drives (or with enough memory mapped the first disc to a RAM drive) but without that :uhrr:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on September 05, 2015, 04:22:58 AM
I still remember all the disk swapping involved in The Adventures of Willy Beamish for Amiga (12 disks).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: penfold on September 05, 2015, 07:44:19 AM
I worked in a games shop during the 16-bit era. Some of the Microprose stuff came on 24+ discs. I remember the Strike Commander box being particular massive.
Lovely manuals too.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mazakiel on September 05, 2015, 10:57:28 AM
The last game I bought that came on floppies was the first Gabriel Knight game.  I think it came on 13 discs, and our computer at the time kept having installation errors about halfway through the process.  After that, I managed to convince my parents to upgrade. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on September 05, 2015, 06:50:19 PM
I think the last game I actually bought on floppy was Doom II.  CDs took over pretty soon after that.

However, I remember installing Quake from a stack of 40-ish floppies numbered with magic marker, borrowed from a friend at school.

And if I recall correctly, one of the floppies had an error on it that messed up one of the game files -- but luckily it was one of the files that was included in the demo version (which I had spent the entire day downloading from id's FTP site when it first released, all 8MB of it over a 14.4k modem and no ability to resume after a disconnect), so I just copied the good version in from the demo and was off to the races.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on September 07, 2015, 02:43:22 AM
At least with games like Strike Commander or Ultima you could at least install it to a hard drive (I had a massive 20 MB drive for my first PC). So you'd only have to play disc jockey once.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on September 08, 2015, 10:30:35 AM
RPS reports that Dragon's Dogma w/xpac is headed to PC in January. $29.99 and on Steam.

It's a weird game, but likely my favorite from last gen.


http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/09/08/dragons-dogma-pc-announcement/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 08, 2015, 10:37:25 AM
Oh goodie another horrifically bad port from Capcom.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on September 08, 2015, 03:15:30 PM
I'm curious though: aside from the buggy Mega Man Legacy Collection, what PC releases have Capcom done lately that have been shoddy port jobs? I'm not talking about the quality of the title itself, just its port.

They've been pretty far removed from the days of releasing Resident Evil 4 on PC with no mouse control.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 08, 2015, 03:31:14 PM
Yes it's hard to be worse than the trifecta of Resident Evil 4, Devil May Cry 3 and Onimusha on the PC. However they've been trying very hard to replicate that level of badness with the Dead Rising games.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 08, 2015, 03:51:35 PM
Lost Planet was a fucking disaster on the PC.

Dead Rising was a train wreck.

Resident Evil 4 was a pure nightmare. Not in a good way.

Capcom is consistently shit at PC Ports.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on September 08, 2015, 03:59:25 PM
Didn't they screw up RE4 twice? Once with the original release and then had issues again with the HD release?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on September 14, 2015, 01:47:47 PM
Guess which game recently got a new patch?




















Correct, it's KOTOR 2!  :why_so_serious:

Most importantly: Native wide-screen support (up to 4k) and Steam workshop (read: "The Sith lord restoration mod" is now a one-click install). Also some minor things like achievements, controller support and cloud saves.

Pleasantly surprised, I am.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on September 18, 2015, 08:13:48 AM
A lot of new Persona 5 footage. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvpOwQaqRXA)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on September 18, 2015, 09:17:51 AM
SPROING!!!!  :drill:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 18, 2015, 09:29:44 AM
oh wow


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: stray on September 18, 2015, 09:32:16 AM
That'd get me to buy the PS4.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on September 18, 2015, 09:53:46 AM
It also got delayed to 2016.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on September 21, 2015, 06:34:39 AM
Persona Get


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on September 21, 2015, 10:06:38 AM
I haven't actually played any of the Persona titles. I think I'll start with this one.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on September 22, 2015, 07:29:39 AM
SOMA - Any views ?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on September 22, 2015, 07:40:43 AM
I want it but I got a bad feeling from the trailer and I got confirmation of exactly that suspicion in a review: the merry voice acting doesn't match the dark mood of the game. It could be a minor thing but it bothers me, so :oh_i_see: - see if it matters to you.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on September 22, 2015, 07:54:23 AM
I'm thoroughly burned out on the whole 'jump scare - the walking simulator' genre, so no.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 22, 2015, 08:24:01 AM
It's not a jump scare game, though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on September 22, 2015, 08:41:47 AM
Yeah, the reviews and devs say it's more a thinking horror this time.  That said, the gameplay video looks terrifying in the same manner as Amnesia, so who knows.

I just really like the look of it and it's only 20 quid and I like the developers....


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on September 22, 2015, 09:12:39 AM
I just heard about some new (PVP?) MMO in the making called Worlds Adrift.

Gameplay trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=3&v=guVUPJbpwyM)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on September 22, 2015, 09:37:53 AM
It certainly looked PVP, a lot like EQNext only with airships.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nija on September 22, 2015, 10:44:24 AM
Reminds me of the best mod that nobody ever played, which was followed up by the HD re-release of the best mod that nobody ever played that nobody ever played.

Yes, I'm talking about Air Bucs!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VGBBgLzjJw


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on October 01, 2015, 01:54:10 PM
Humble bundle just announced their Monthly subscription service (https://www.humblebundle.com/monthly).

$12 a month for a separate set of curated games, you get to keep them when you cancel. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on October 01, 2015, 09:00:45 PM
Except you don't get to see what they are. So it's pot luck as to whether you have any of them already on steam, etc or even like them.

You won't even be able to "wait and see what games for this month". From their 'Monthly Bundle FAQ' page(support.humblebundle.com):

Quote
Once you’re signed up, you can look forward to 11:00AM PST the first Friday of each month as the day new games are unlocked.
The bundle contents will be top-secret until that day.

If you haven't subscribed by the time the games are unlocked, you'll miss out on that month's content (except for the instant-unlock game).
You will be unable to purchase bundles from previous months.

Seems like an extraordinarily shitty deal from Humble. I'd rather save $12 a month and then burn it twice a year on the Steam Summer/Winter sales than "subscribe" to whatever random junk Humble pumps out in "highly curated" form. The first month seems okay if you planned to buy Grimrock 2 without waiting for a Steam sale, but othewise... meh.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on October 01, 2015, 11:05:21 PM
I also suspect that if one was so inclined, you could just jump on one of the regular Humble Bundle sales for 5 dollars or so and get more or less the same value for it.  Or even more, since you can see what you are getting, while paying less.  I like the idea of everything these guys do, but the games tend to be pretty underwhelming most of the time, so I would never give them regular money unless I just felt like doing it for charitable reasons alone.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on October 02, 2015, 01:18:00 AM
...and if you're doing that, you can just give to a charity of your own choice directly - (which you could also research to make sure they'e legit or process your money in a way you approve of).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on October 02, 2015, 02:26:35 AM
I never care about more than two games out of any bundle and most of the times it's stuff I wouldn't pay more than 5 euros for anyway. This deal sounds so shitty to me, but in all honesty... have you heard of these things called NerdCube or GeekPack or LootCrate whatever they are these boxes that some kids pay a subscription for and get delivered to their house with some GENERIC and totally random fandom stuff in it? It boggles my mind why anyone would pay real money to get a box of RANDOM JUNK. I guess what they are doing here is riding that vibe, meaning, we are not the target, but there IS a market made of suckers that enjoy throwing money at boxes marked "?" so much that it's worth producing those boxes no matter what. Enter the RandomBundle subscription. As I said, a stupid deal for a society of stupids.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on October 02, 2015, 07:17:33 AM
I don't see the appeal of those LootCrate things either, and I'm usually the guy who likes fandom stuff (I always buy CEs of games, etc.).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 02, 2015, 08:56:55 AM
All of the LootCrate subscribers that I know are children.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 02, 2015, 11:59:58 AM
All of the LootCrate subscribers that I know are children.
There's a large crossover for shitty monthly subs with Dr. Who and Joss Whedon fans also.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Evildrider on October 02, 2015, 12:21:11 PM
Lootcrates are for people that have never had to move apartments/houses.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 02, 2015, 12:24:04 PM
The people who pack the LootCrates are obviously man-children.  I have found a very few items that I wanted in my son's sub, in particular some embroidered patches of the Tyrell Corporation logo which I'm going to attach to my Boy Scout Class A shirt instead of a real patch.  Then you have the Carnage coffee mug, which I think is going to be valuable only in identifying targets during The Great Purge.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on October 02, 2015, 12:50:08 PM
My buddy at work gets that GeekBox thing. He has more money to burn than me. I ended up getting his copy of Ready Player One out of it because he'd already bought it so... yeah, I don't get it either. The Humble Monthly thing? Nah. I rarely spend more than $7 on any of the bundles they have and often only for 1-3 games in the whole bundle. I'm not paying almost twice that for who knows what every month? Well, I say who knows what but if their previous bundles are any indication, I'd be getting a metric fuckton of "I call myself indie so I can use 8-bit pixel artwork instead of hiring real artists" shit that I wouldn't have paid for in the regular Humble Bundles.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Pezzle on October 02, 2015, 02:00:03 PM
I have a friend that loves lootcrate.  Every so often she will show me all the random shit, or be wearing some, or take pictures of her son with a shirt on.  Once she tried to convince me it was a good deal.  Whatever, she is crazy.  If it makes people happy, I guess?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 02, 2015, 04:16:32 PM
I have a friend that loves lootcrate.  Every so often she will show me all the random shit, or be wearing some, or take pictures of her son with a shirt on.  Once she tried to convince me it was a good deal.  Whatever, she is crazy.  If it makes people happy, I guess?

100% chance she loves Dr. Who.

I'm sticking to this assumption.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 04, 2015, 06:33:19 PM
What's not to like?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 04, 2015, 11:44:30 PM
What's not to like?

(http://forums.f13.net/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=6470;type=avatar)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bunk on October 05, 2015, 07:31:25 AM
I'll admit I bought one LootCrate at PAX this year, mostly out of curiosity. I was actually lined up for it, got to the front and basically told them I had no idea what I'd lined up for. I paid $40 for a Nuka Cola t-shirt, a Companion Cube key chain, a fancy but uncomfortable Halo lanyard, and some other crap I don't think I ever took out of the box again. Still, I admire the business model.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Pezzle on October 05, 2015, 12:21:57 PM
I have a friend that loves lootcrate.  Every so often she will show me all the random shit, or be wearing some, or take pictures of her son with a shirt on.  Once she tried to convince me it was a good deal.  Whatever, she is crazy.  If it makes people happy, I guess?

100% chance she loves Dr. Who.

I'm sticking to this assumption.

Actually, she does not.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 05, 2015, 12:26:08 PM
(http://forums.f13.net/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=6470;type=avatar)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 05, 2015, 02:26:29 PM
I have a friend that loves lootcrate.  Every so often she will show me all the random shit, or be wearing some, or take pictures of her son with a shirt on.  Once she tried to convince me it was a good deal.  Whatever, she is crazy.  If it makes people happy, I guess?

100% chance she loves Dr. Who.

I'm sticking to this assumption.
Actually, she does not.
Lies, secretly nursing a TARDIS shrine in her closet.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: brellium on October 05, 2015, 09:41:54 PM
I have a friend that loves lootcrate.  Every so often she will show me all the random shit, or be wearing some, or take pictures of her son with a shirt on.  Once she tried to convince me it was a good deal.  Whatever, she is crazy.  If it makes people happy, I guess?

100% chance she loves Dr. Who.

I'm sticking to this assumption.
Actually, she does not.
Lies, secretly nursing a TARDIS shrine in her closet.
I have actually never seen Dr. Who, however my Facebook feed is constantly full of blue telephone boxes.

Do I need to sacrifice a small child to the alters of the old ones, or some such?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 06, 2015, 07:05:46 AM
They are actually Police Boxes.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on October 06, 2015, 10:10:27 AM
Far Cry goes back to the mesolithic. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt_50igBCKc)

Less words and more trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhPtKagR13Y&feature=em-uploademail).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on October 06, 2015, 12:09:13 PM
They are actually Police Boxes.
It's just the one Police Box, actually.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on October 06, 2015, 01:00:29 PM
Far Cry goes back to the mesolithic. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt_50igBCKc)

Less words and more trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhPtKagR13Y&feature=em-uploademail).

That looks pretty cool.  Though at some point I wonder what even "Far Cry" is supposed to represent or mean as a series.

Cavemen always seemed like a tricky setting to me because they lack so much tech that we'd take for granted.  Like, I'm no expert on prehistoric hygiene, but a lot of those cavemans seemed to have some pretty close shaves from rocking the Gillette Piece of Stone.  Taking the setting realistically seems like it would be really limiting in a lot of ways.  I wonder if someone had some kind of panic attack when they realized they couldn't put radio towers all over the map to double the game length.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on October 06, 2015, 01:08:23 PM
It's going to be some dumb animus shit, I bet.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on October 07, 2015, 01:25:53 AM
Isn't the whole appeal of Far Cry that you do all this shit while driving a jeep and toting a big rocket launcher?

So what's the appeal if you're now armed with a stone axe and can't climb radio towers since they won't be invented for another 10,000 years?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on October 07, 2015, 03:43:42 AM
You ride a mammoth and climb mountains to make smoke signals.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on October 07, 2015, 03:46:04 AM
I started writing something sarcastic but you know that might actually work.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on October 07, 2015, 10:13:33 AM
Not that it might not be a cool game, but why is it called 'Far Cry'?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on October 08, 2015, 08:28:10 AM
I think it's because the developers are named Crytek.  They made Crysis, too.  

Edit:  I just looked them up and their engine is named Cry, too.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: apocrypha on October 08, 2015, 01:10:31 PM
 :cry2:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on October 12, 2015, 12:53:20 PM
http://hex.frvr.com/ (browser game)

Say bye to the rest of your day.

 :grin:

(http://www.pcgamer.com/hex-frvr-the-perfect-procrastination-puzzle-game/)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on October 12, 2015, 01:02:35 PM
Holy hell. Colorblindness nightmare.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on October 12, 2015, 01:04:49 PM
I hit 11,470 and got bored.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on October 12, 2015, 02:03:50 PM
Oh goddamnit. That is fucking addictive.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bunk on October 12, 2015, 03:27:45 PM
yikes.

34,380


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on October 12, 2015, 03:38:16 PM
Sigh. 6,590 is my current high score  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on October 12, 2015, 03:53:17 PM
http://hex.frvr.com/ (browser game)

Say bye to the rest of your day.

 :grin:

(http://www.pcgamer.com/hex-frvr-the-perfect-procrastination-puzzle-game/)

Foul.  Should be in the useless distractions thread.  10 yard penalty.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on October 13, 2015, 04:58:51 AM
Just came across a game releasing soon called Rebel Galaxy (http://rebel-galaxy.com/) (trailer (https://youtu.be/rtg56RGq0OY)) by two of the creators of Torchlight.  Half hour gameplay video here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMOpIdwdtjc&feature=youtu.be)

Looks pretty interesting.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on October 13, 2015, 05:21:49 AM
I've had my eyes on it for a while. Loved the trailer.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nebu on October 13, 2015, 08:13:15 AM
18,250 on that silly block game.  So much comes down to the luck of the block draw.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on October 13, 2015, 09:00:42 AM
18,250 on that silly block game.  So much comes down to the luck of the block draw.
(http://i.imgur.com/NAx0gyA.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shannow on October 13, 2015, 09:07:35 AM
Fuck you guys, I was trying to be productive today.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nebu on October 13, 2015, 09:09:18 AM
(https://photos-4.dropbox.com/t/2/AAACcO29EMAKTXbXlm1A61iCZLNJQO5KYvwqvVBaIQUyAQ/12/359578546/png/32x32/1/_/1/2/Top%20score.png/ELucqeoCGAUgASgB/vnx3Kp0JFWgGBTeIw70j0Du8zzgR1Jpz__7tovJ6Qw0?size=1280x960&size_mode=2)

I'm done... wasted an hour.  I hate you all.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: murdoc on October 13, 2015, 11:19:53 AM
Just came across a game releasing soon called Rebel Galaxy (http://rebel-galaxy.com/) (trailer (https://youtu.be/rtg56RGq0OY)) by two of the creators of Torchlight.  Half hour gameplay video here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMOpIdwdtjc&feature=youtu.be)

Looks pretty interesting.



I played this at PAX south last year and for $20 i will definitely pick it up.

Can't fly up or down though - it's more like battleships in space.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on October 13, 2015, 11:33:18 AM
Yeah I noticed that from the gameplay but still looked good.

 Pretty blown away it seems to be done by a 2 person team too.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: lamaros on October 13, 2015, 03:49:35 PM
I got bored and stopped about 25k in, it is too samey.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on October 13, 2015, 06:38:32 PM
It looks like the owners of Desura, on online retailer in the same vein as GoG and Steam, has filed for bankruptcy.  Apparently they weren't paying developers for the games being sold, either.  I've heard of this site but I've never used them.

http://www.pcgamer.com/desura-and-indie-royale-parent-company-files-for-bankruptcy/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 14, 2015, 06:22:53 AM
I think that is where you would go to buy Project Zomboid.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 14, 2015, 10:55:57 AM
I think that is where you would go to buy Project Zomboid.
I got it on Steam.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 14, 2015, 09:25:25 PM
huh

*reinstalls deus ex*

http://store.steampowered.com/app/397550/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on October 15, 2015, 05:16:56 AM
I think that is where you would go to buy Project Zomboid.
I got it on Steam.

Yeah, you have been able to get it on Steam for a while now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 15, 2015, 07:39:47 AM
I haven't bought it anywhere* so fuck you guys.



*I may actually own it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on October 15, 2015, 01:04:04 PM
It turns out that Total Biscuit's cancer spread to his liver before being eradicated in the bowel.

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1snlj3r

Bowel cancer is completely gone, but the bits he has in the liver are where it can't be removed and there's no real cure. 2-3 years.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on October 15, 2015, 04:00:19 PM
Just playing the new Civ Beyond Earth expansion (Rising Tide).

The  loading screen quotes and writing is still as hamfisted as before. And now slightly too topical for my taste as well. Some examples from the new German faction featuring Lena Ebner (https://downloads.2kgames.com/civdotcom/img/blog/2KGMKT_civ_bert_leader_profile_integr2.jpg) aka SpaceMerkel.


Refugees and Greek debt crisis and climate change in one:

(https://i.imgur.com/R8zZPHY.png)



TTIP (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_Trade_and_Investment_Partnership):

(https://i.imgur.com/IAPq43E.png)


And this:

(https://i.imgur.com/NxjhI9R.png)

Metamodernism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamodernism) actually seems to be a thing. I give them that. But still...this just oozes "written by 20something intern".  :oh_i_see:





Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 16, 2015, 07:04:07 AM
Meanwhile, in Opposite Land, someone put a "Reticulating splines..." loading message into our corporate Slack chat.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 16, 2015, 09:51:54 AM
But still...this just oozes "written by 20something intern".  :oh_i_see:
That whole project oozes that. The end of my day 1 Civ buying. Probably.

I haven't bought it anywhere* so fuck you guys.



*I may actually own it.
I have the map (http://pzmap.crash-override.net/#0.4464560489788621,0.2140171341872196,30.65660450902637) on my browser hotbar still...keeps tempting me to come back and sneak through some windows. One of my favorite zombie survival games (along with 7 Days to Die, which is apparently patching in dismemberment...).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 16, 2015, 12:07:45 PM
I somehow thought the map was random.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on October 16, 2015, 09:42:08 PM
I just found out that Everquest 1 is still pumping out expansions  (https://www.everquest.com/expansion-content).

Surprised its still profitable to do that


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on October 16, 2015, 10:26:58 PM
Remember when we were joking about DayZ being too casual, and someone suggested a game where if you die the game uninstalls and you can never play again?

Well... (http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=534994203)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sir T on October 16, 2015, 11:33:49 PM
Core, the Hard is.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kageru on October 16, 2015, 11:44:04 PM
I just found out that Everquest 1 is still pumping out expansions  (https://www.everquest.com/expansion-content).

Surprised its still profitable to do that

The game graphics and content expectations are low enough that I'd assume these are pretty cheap to produce. And SOE don't seem to willingly give up any revenue stream.

Since the only way to subscribe to any one of their games is by the "all access" pass I guess old titles also help make that look like better value.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Draegan on October 17, 2015, 05:59:57 AM
You mean daybreak.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on October 20, 2015, 06:26:17 AM
Trigger Warning: Polygon

Mobile Dev: The mobile marketplace is flooded with shit and non-garbage non-F2P games can't make any money! (http://www.polygon.com/2015/10/19/9567017/the-mobile-games-market-is-an-absolute-mess-thanks-to-you)

Quote
A mobile game my team and I poured our hearts and souls into is receiving rave reviews from users. The game, Battlestation: Harbinger, was featured by both Apple and Google as one of the best new games in their respective marketplaces.

You may think that congratulations are in order. You might think that my team and I popped some Champagne and headed out on a well-deserved vacation. Unfortunately, that isn't the case. Even with these successes, my company and I are in the red, desperate to bring in more money before we have to lay off our workers and close our doors for good.
The problem with mobile

You see, we have a problem in the mobile gaming sector, thanks to you. You would rather buy a pumpkin spice latte a few times a week and enjoy it for a few minutes than buy a game that you can play as long as you would like. In order for creative games to be made, there needs to be a major culture shift. We need to be willing to spend a few dollars on a quality app, rather than for a few extra lives or other in-game purchases.

Being a mobile game developer for four years has made me realize a lot of things that are wrong with the market. First, only certain games can bring in money for developers. Second, only certain types of players will find it easy to find games suitable for them. Third, classical conditioning makes a lot of players feel entitled to have everything for free and punish developers for asking money.

Even apps that find success in their marketing campaigns cannot make up the money spent on development because people would rather spend $5 on a latte every other day than on the app. Why? Because the most popular games are free-to-play, with a monetization model that lets most players play for free while milking some customers for thousands of dollars.

Most players have become conditioned to feel entitled to free content more and more. The price of a game is not compared to a latte; it is compared to the price of another game.

Essentially, these customers who pay thousands, these "whales," pay for the fun for everyone. Throw out a game with one free episode and the rest to unlock for $5 and you will have a problem on your hands. This model — one that many old-school players find very fair, a try before you buy — is not a model that works well these days. Users see a $5 price tag for more content and they quit the game and go back to sipping their lattes.

Players have a very real power to impact the sales of a game through ratings. With many of our mobile games, we have users blackmail us with ratings. They will rate the game with one star, and then send us a message demanding the game be made free for them in order for them to "correct" their review.

It's extremely frustrating for us. On top of this, there is no way for us to request the removal of these reviews on either Apple or Google's marketplaces, so if we refuse to give in, these negative reviews remain for the lifetime of the game. Unless we have hundreds of reviews already pouring in, these initial negative reviews can be a game-breaker for small companies like mine.

The whole market is heavily focused on the mass-market spectrum, and it all stems from one thing: To make money as a mobile game developer you have to have your game high enough up in the top lists. If your game isn't there, you will not sell enough units to make ends meet. On the surface, that may seem to make sense; these app store lists work on certain algorithms to promote what is already popular. But there is a problem with this: Games that appeal to the masses have a clear advantage over games for niche markets.

Since the difference in income is so huge, it makes the decision for a developer almost binary. Either we make a mass-appealing game — the Clashes of Clans or Candy Crushes — and have a chance to make a living, or we make a niche game and have no chance at all.

"One game developer alone cannot change this, but many together can"

At the end of the day, all these factors make creating good content for mobile devices more and more difficult.

Is it really this black and white? From my experience, yes. We released Battlestation: Harbinger on Aug. 13. Despite being featured by both Google and Apple, the game isn't selling enough to make up for development expenses. A few niche games manage to make a little bit of money to support a small studio, but it is very rare. This all leads to a situation where only a certain type of game is viable to make business-wise; the market is forcing every developer to act in the same way.
This can change

There needs to be a twofold culture shift. The first step is one I already mentioned: Gamers need to learn to vote with their money. This will allow developers to build the great games that everyone wants to see on the expanding mobile platform.

Many serious gamers complain about all the casual games coming out for mobile, but don't support the serious game developers that build the games that they want! Remember when you would fork over $40 for Zelda or Pokémon games on Game Boy? Imagine the amazing games we could play on our phones if we paid developers enough to create them! One such game that you can support is Battlestation.

The other shift needs to be from the developer side. Game developers are fighting against each other, when they should realize that we are allies as well as rivals. While we are rivals in achieving visibility, we are allies against the classical conditioning, the market today and the undervaluing of our hard work.

One game developer alone cannot change this, but many together can. We as game developers did this to ourselves by competing so fiercely against each other that we lowered the price of our work more and more, so much so that now a consumer won't pay even a few dollars for a game. We have created a mess that can only be solved by working together.

As the industry stands, there is no room for creativity anymore, no room for the passion projects. There is only room for those who want to build games that milk their customers without making them angry, because that is the only way we can survive. It is not about making good games right now — the consumer doesn't care enough. I hope that we can come together to enact change in the industry, before the effects become irreversible.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goreschach on October 20, 2015, 06:39:22 AM
Lookit at that butthurt!  :crying_panda:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rattran on October 20, 2015, 06:40:21 AM
Trigger Warning: Polygon

Mobile Dev: The mobile marketplace is flooded with shit and non-garbage non-F2P games can't make any money! (http://www.polygon.com/2015/10/19/9567017/the-mobile-games-market-is-an-absolute-mess-thanks-to-you)

Quote

Cry more noob. If that's the way mobile works, maybe he should develop his niche game for some other market. Or continue being a starving artist subsisting on lattes, clove vape juice, and despair.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on October 20, 2015, 06:46:59 AM
He's not entirely wrong, but he's pretty whiny about it which makes me less sympathetic. I haven't seen many mobile games that are really on par with modern handheld games, and since I own both of those systems I'm even less inclined to pay for mobile stuff. Square has released some nostalgic stuff but all priced a bit too high for my tastes (FF Tactics for example is $14 on Android, only $10 on PSP/Vita which also has better controls). Also, emulators are a thing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on October 20, 2015, 06:47:19 AM
So his team created a game that would have probably worked and sold better on a different platform, sold it at a premium price on a marketplace that has years of statistical data showing that games selling for premium prices don't, and then lashed out using a bully pulpit whose audience consists of the very people most likely to be his customers to blame them for their lack of runaway success. Not to mention not even apportioning any of the blame on Apple and Google, who encourage the existence of the shit these devs whine about, because they make boucoup bucks off of it.

Okay then.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on October 20, 2015, 07:10:26 AM
He's not wrong about that market. I quit looking at the App Store about a year ago because the good content simply doesn't percolate up. If I search for Games->RPG, ~7 of the first 10 apps will be "wolf simulator", or "cat simulator", or something like that. It's all shit.

Reviews can't be trusted and as far as "price of a latte" goes, I can either have a latte or a 80% chance of a shit game. In the rare 20% that are actually good, they're often too shallow for any longevity. I'd rather have the latte.

In essence, mobile games are definitely in a bad place. Not monetarily, of course. However, I would never suggest someone enter that market unless positive they were going to appeal to mass market Candy Crush or CoC style games.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MahrinSkel on October 20, 2015, 07:32:45 AM
I was initially quite enthusiastic about mobile games, just because I am a firm believer that the end point we are headed for is the always on, augmented reality, 'lifestyle' game (aka The Games That Will Replace Religion), and mobile is a critical piece of that. But I realized early on that the key differentiator for mobile games is promotion, there's not much room for depth or immersiveness in games that have to be oriented to being picked up for minutes at a time and dropped at zero notice.

Promotion = Advertising, it does not matter how much you spend making the game, you'll spend most of your money on advertisements. So it becomes a matter of raw numbers: Average revenue per player vs the cost of acquiring new players. If your game is 'mainstream', meaning that for every 100 people you advertise to, 1 becomes a customer, there is no way to make that math work unless you can milk the whales for a whole lot of money.

If it is 'niche', there's no way to make that math work at all.

--Dave


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on October 20, 2015, 07:42:33 AM
Pokemon GO is the first game I've been excited for that does what you're suggesting, Dave, and I think they have the advertising budget to pull it off.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nija on October 20, 2015, 08:39:15 AM
The problem with his product, specifically, is that there isn't a free trial.

Why would I pay $4 for an unknown game when there are dozens of thousands of free games? I know what I'm getting when I spend $4 on coffee. I have no idea what his game does, and the sideways screenshots and videos on the app store don't help.

How does he/industry people overlook that? What the fuck is the game for $4? Let me play it first, you goddamn idiots!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on October 20, 2015, 09:38:16 AM
To butthurt mobile dev:


It appears that they already have.

I feel his pain. I really do. I'm selling some of my novels/novellas for $.99 cents (and getting only a 35% royalty from Amazon because of it) when others are selling at $2.99 and getting the full 70% royalty. Meanwhile, established, name authors can charge as much as a paperback or more for Kindle versions of their novels.

I'm not about to be arrogant enough to tell a customer they should pay more for my work than someone they already know and are invested in. Fuck that. The market decided my stuff will sell at $.99 cents and not at a higher price point. I have to find a way to make that work or just stop doing it.

EDIT: Also, part of his problem is how the App Store and Google Play promote content. "Most popular" is most downloaded, and guess what... free games are going to be downloaded a fuckload more than paid games. So naturally, those will rise higher in the rankings and be seen by more people. When you also have games getting big time big budget commercials staring the big breasts of Kate Upton, you're going to be more looks than a niche. Fuck, being a niche mobile developer is worse than being a niche indie filmmaker. You have basically 3 distribution platforms that are heavily saturated with content that to an potential customer looks no different that what you have.

Also, not having a free trial is pants on head retarded. That's how some of these paid games get paid.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on October 20, 2015, 10:03:26 AM
Wait...he writes this:
Quote from: Some Douchey Mobile Dev
Throw out a game with one free episode and the rest to unlock for $5 and you will have a problem on your hands. This model — one that many old-school players find very fair, a try before you buy — is not a model that works well these days. Users see a $5 price tag for more content and they quit the game and go back to sipping their lattes.
then doesn't even have a demo? You can't complain about players not venturing beyond your paywall when it's at the fucking door. :uhrr:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 20, 2015, 11:39:52 AM
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/85916/sound_of_butthurt.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nija on October 20, 2015, 01:08:33 PM
Okay, i went out on a limb and spent $4 on this guys game.

It's total shit. The UI is unpolished. I was able to break the tutorial before even getting done with the first mission. If you don't move your ship exactly where you are supposed to, at the right time, it gets off course. And the movement system is basically anywhere on the screen, so the x y coords of where you press could be off a by a couple pixels.

Pinch to zoom has no indicator where you are in the zoom level.
Pinch to zoom is too twitchy - you fly way up close to your (8 bit) ship and can't see anything. It's a worthless zoom level. Or you zoom too far out which leads to the next problem.
Pinch to zoom isn't centered on where you are pinching. If you zoom out when you are in the top left of the quadrant, you have to zoom in a bit (which is hard, because it's so twitchy), then scroll up and to the left to find your ship, then pinch and zoom again.
Moving your ship is confusing. There isn't any indication that the new heading has been accepted. Your ship moves so slowly that you have to watch it for ~2 seconds before you notice any change in heading. I didn't see anywhere to set speed, or to slow down speed so I can turn faster.

After I restarted the tutorial (after I put it in an impossible to complete step in about 90 seconds) I was able to complete it, but received zero direction after completing the tutorial. Okay, so I know kind of know how to move around a combat map - but what is next? What other parts of the game are there?

This game needs a lot of work to compete with anything - free to play, paid, or otherwise.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on October 20, 2015, 02:24:21 PM
$5 games on steam seem to do well. Wrong platform butthurt guy.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on October 20, 2015, 02:58:45 PM
Okay, i went out on a limb and spent $4 on this guys game.

It's total shit. The UI is unpolished. I was able to break the tutorial before even getting done with the first mission. If you don't move your ship exactly where you are supposed to, at the right time, it gets off course. And the movement system is basically anywhere on the screen, so the x y coords of where you press could be off a by a couple pixels.

Pinch to zoom has no indicator where you are in the zoom level.
Pinch to zoom is too twitchy - you fly way up close to your (8 bit) ship and can't see anything. It's a worthless zoom level. Or you zoom too far out which leads to the next problem.
Pinch to zoom isn't centered on where you are pinching. If you zoom out when you are in the top left of the quadrant, you have to zoom in a bit (which is hard, because it's so twitchy), then scroll up and to the left to find your ship, then pinch and zoom again.
Moving your ship is confusing. There isn't any indication that the new heading has been accepted. Your ship moves so slowly that you have to watch it for ~2 seconds before you notice any change in heading. I didn't see anywhere to set speed, or to slow down speed so I can turn faster.

After I restarted the tutorial (after I put it in an impossible to complete step in about 90 seconds) I was able to complete it, but received zero direction after completing the tutorial. Okay, so I know kind of know how to move around a combat map - but what is next? What other parts of the game are there?

This game needs a lot of work to compete with anything - free to play, paid, or otherwise.
Give him a 1 star review and demand a refund. Post results.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Quinton on October 21, 2015, 02:00:15 PM
Sony is finally releasing (well, licensing) a remote for PS4 (yay, no more using a gamepad for transport control).
http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/11/9497901/ps4-univesal-media-remote-control-price-announced
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ZJRHSZO


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Strazos on October 21, 2015, 06:39:17 PM
I don't understand the problem using the control to control the system.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Quinton on October 21, 2015, 09:47:43 PM
It's clunky (a number of actions require multiple steps), error prone (I don't remember the button mappings), and just kinda annoying.  Certainly not the end of the world to have to use a controller, but something with actual transport controls is nicer.  I don't have any other remotes around since I use the PS4 as pretty much the only media playback device in the living room (it does Amazon Video, Netflix, Bluray, and video from the NAS, so I'm set).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 22, 2015, 06:02:52 AM
You have to hold the controller during the entire movie or when you put it down you'll skip to the credits.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 22, 2015, 01:48:18 PM
Give me a mobile game I can control with my xbox controller, isn't a paywall shithole and gives me a solid modern gaming experience. That's all I want. I'm dying for good games on my phone. I play the hell out of solitaire and laugh at mobile developer's utter failure to provide me a gaming experience.

Even getting GTA:SA on my tablet sucked because the controller I needed to use sucked and SA wasn't a great port in the first place (GTA4 was the first one I didn't need both controller and keyb/m to play well).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on October 22, 2015, 03:21:04 PM
Duelyst is now in open beta. It's a turn based PvP game that blends some Magic the Gatrhering with any Tactical RPG out there. I haven't explored all of its intricacies but it certainly looks cool.

https://duelyst.com/


EDIT: Added trailer. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xn5P4NPgpU)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goreschach on October 22, 2015, 03:37:21 PM
Give me a mobile game I can control with my xbox controller, isn't a paywall shithole and gives me a solid modern gaming experience. That's all I want. I'm dying for good games on my phone. I play the hell out of solitaire and laugh at mobile developer's utter failure to provide me a gaming experience.

I too would like to play games on my phone using an xbox controller.  :uhrr:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on October 22, 2015, 03:46:18 PM
Fuck that. Keyboard/mouse.  You can pry WASD from my cold dead hands.  :roll:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on October 22, 2015, 06:46:17 PM
Do people really use controllers on their phones, or am I falling into the sarchasm here? :uhrr:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ezrast on October 22, 2015, 07:28:37 PM
For Sky, it's the next logical step after attaching a keyboard and mouse to his TV. Later he'll be putting a numeric keypad on his car, a steering wheel on his toaster, and a temperature dial on his chest hair.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MahrinSkel on October 22, 2015, 07:37:13 PM
Do people really use controllers on their phones, or am I falling into the sarchasm here? :uhrr:
(http://i.imgur.com/8Nmrt6T.jpg)

--Dave


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Quinton on October 23, 2015, 12:53:56 AM
Duelyst is now in open beta. It's a turn based PvP game that blends some Magic the Gatrhering with any Tactical RPG out there. I haven't explored all of its intricacies but it certainly looks cool.

https://duelyst.com/

If you go to https://beta.duelyst.com/ with the latest Chrome browser (including on Linux) you can play the game in-browser without needing to download a client.  I played through some of the tutorials and one random 1v1 match.  Seems potentially fun -- will depend a lot on the actual cards/spells/etc I'm sure.

There is fixed mana per turn (player Two getting a bonus) like in Hearthstone.  No colored mana.  Melee attacks across adjacent squares (including diagonal) trade attacks (units can simultaneously destroy each other).  Damage sustained persists across rounds.  Decks are 40 cards built around a General, and like Hearthstone, may use cards from that General's faction and Neutral cards, but not other factions.  Cards are spells or summons.  There are (as far as I can see) no interrupts or responses -- players take their turns, and until the turn timer runs out may mix summoning (provided they have the mana), moving units, and attacking with units.

In TCG/CCG style cards may override the base rules (side-effects on summoning, no summon sickness, flying units have no range restriction, etc, etc).

Model is pretty clearly Free-to-Play with Pay-to-Unlock-Stuff-Faster (otherwise you get cards or the ability to unlock cards as a result of playing tutorial and match games and getting in-game currency).  There's a crafting system (seems Hearthstone-ish).  Did not see any evidence of an Auction House or mechanism to trade cards.

My username is Quinton.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ezrast on October 23, 2015, 04:19:54 AM
Yeah, after a dozen or so games, this appears to be exactly Hearthstone but on a grid. Which I'm pretty sure makes it strictly better than Hearthstone. We'll see.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shannow on October 23, 2015, 04:58:46 AM
Humble Bundle this week has a bunch of shitty Games Workshop games: Talisman, Warhammer Quest, Space Hulk, Chainsaw warrior, WH40k Kill team etc


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Quinton on October 23, 2015, 06:00:02 AM
Yeah, after a dozen or so games, this appears to be exactly Hearthstone but on a grid. Which I'm pretty sure makes it strictly better than Hearthstone. We'll see.

I was pretty impressed with the level of polish in the client -- nice and solid and responsive.

I hope the HEX people can someday learn the secret of readable fonts that the Duelyst folks have discovered.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on October 23, 2015, 05:48:38 PM
So on the 20th Microsoft released the new PC wireless adapter for XBox One controllers. It's €25 stand alone or €70 as a controller bundle. Windows 10 only.

Doesn't work.

According to the manual drivers are included and already installed on Windows 10. So no driver download and no drivers included in the package. Except Windows 10 won't recognize the device. Driver detection doesn't recognize the device either. There are already a lot of threads about this issue both on the official sites and on other sites complaining about that.

The people that somehow got it to work don't have rumble support and no audio/voice through the controller (headsets don't work).

The Xbox accessories app that let's you customize settings is not listed on the MS App Store because it won't be out until the 27th.

So another great product launch by MS.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on October 23, 2015, 08:50:53 PM
Do people really use controllers on their phones, or am I falling into the sarchasm here? :uhrr:
(http://i.imgur.com/8Nmrt6T.jpg)

--Dave
That's rather ridiculous looking.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on October 24, 2015, 05:35:19 AM
InXile expanding, opening a new studio and secretely working on reviving Autoduel, a game freely inspired by my most beloved tabletop game Car Wars (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL3EAH9HxCs), and also notable for being one of the very first Richard Garriott works back in 1985.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/10/23/inxile-autoduel/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shrike on October 24, 2015, 07:25:10 PM
Autoduel?!?

Take my money! NOW!!

I still have my 3.5" Mac disk from...a long time ago. The Mac is long gone, but the floppy remains.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: apocrypha on October 24, 2015, 11:23:09 PM
Please don't fuck it up, please don't fuck it up, please don't fuck it up!

I  :heart: ed Car Wars.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on October 25, 2015, 04:11:51 AM
I am in the same position you two are. Still have Autoduel in its original box, still have a lot of my Car Wars books and boxes. A remake of this has been a wet dream of mine for twenty+ years (like Battletech, MechWarrior and Wasteland) so money is gonna be thrown as quickly as they can type "Kickstar..."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sir T on October 27, 2015, 09:19:25 AM
Funcom's "The Park" is out for 9.99. I'll probably pick it up. Whatever you say about the Secret world, these guys can do creepy.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on October 27, 2015, 09:32:14 AM
Please don't fuck it up, please don't fuck it up, please don't fuck it up!

I  :heart: ed Car Wars.

It's inXille, there's a high chance they'll fuck it up. All aboard the Brian Fargo nostalgia hype train.  Choo fucking choo.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on October 27, 2015, 09:56:07 AM
That depends if you think they fucked up Wasteland 2. Which they didn't. Soo......  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on October 27, 2015, 10:22:55 AM
Depends on your definition of "fucked up".  Was it reasonably fun? Sure (until the problems wore you down).  Was it competently made? No.

I'll give it this. I may give it another chance at some point (well after I try the D:OS EE), especially since they patched it up.  I doubt, however, that they've patched out some of my most prominent gripes.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on October 27, 2015, 10:35:46 AM
Funcom's "The Park" is out for 9.99. I'll probably pick it up. Whatever you say about the Secret world, these guys can do creepy.

This one is Joel Bylos' baby, and yeah he can do some good horror writing.

Apparently this was just supposed to be an exercise in learning to use the Unreal Engine (I think), for another project in the works, but Bylos pushed for an independent release for it.

Be advised that it only contains a couple of hours of playtime, so don't be disappointed in that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on October 27, 2015, 04:08:53 PM
New David Cage game. Detroit. About androids.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL2gW7hmXu4


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on October 27, 2015, 04:27:46 PM
Why doesn't he just make overly pretentious, barely coherent movies instead of these things?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: brellium on October 27, 2015, 05:12:08 PM
Funcom's "The Park" is out for 9.99. I'll probably pick it up. Whatever you say about the Secret world, these guys can do creepy.

This one is Joel Bylos' baby, and yeah he can do some good horror writing.

Apparently this was just supposed to be an exercise in learning to use the Unreal Engine (I think), for another project in the works, but Bylos pushed for an independent release for it.

Be advised that it only contains a couple of hours of playtime, so don't be disappointed in that.
The videos have it looking a lot like the amusement park in TSO.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ard on October 27, 2015, 07:27:29 PM
That's what it's directly based on.

edit:  could have been more clear, yes, that's the same amusement park from the TSO. Iit's set in the same world and place.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sir T on October 28, 2015, 11:54:03 AM
Funcom's "The Park" is out for 9.99. I'll probably pick it up. Whatever you say about the Secret world, these guys can do creepy.

This one is Joel Bylos' baby, and yeah he can do some good horror writing.

Apparently this was just supposed to be an exercise in learning to use the Unreal Engine (I think), for another project in the works, but Bylos pushed for an independent release for it.

Be advised that it only contains a couple of hours of playtime, so don't be disappointed in that.

Yeah, bought it, played it, finished it in just under 2 hours. I quite enjoyed it. Nowhere near the best game I've ever played, but I've spent far worse 10 bucks. Got a few items for my the secret world char too so there's that.

I somehow missed one achievement too, so I might replay some of it to get that. Damn completionist gene.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on October 29, 2015, 06:44:43 AM
Paradox Buys White Wolf – Including World Of Darkness and Vampire The Masquerade – From CCP (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/10/29/paradox-white-wolf/).

In my opinion this is great news since CCP hasn't really done anything with the IP.  :drill: :drill:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on October 29, 2015, 07:35:37 AM
I can see Paradox actually completing something that might be playable. CCP did fuckall but waste money on it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Quinton on November 01, 2015, 08:35:23 PM
SOMA - Any views ?

Heard about it on Halloween and spent much of Halloween and a bit of today playing it.  Liked it a lot, though it could have used fewer monsters (I thought the mystery/horror of the unfolding story as you explore the environment was far stronger than the monster elements).  The visual design of the environment was fantastic, I enjoyed piecing together the story of "wtf happened / is happening here", and was generally impressed by the experience.

There were two rather frustrating timed sequences and a couple other annoying encounters that soured me on the monster side of things, but everything else made up for it.  The opening sequence has some pretty drab environmental design that had me a bit worried about the overall quality of things, but it was a false alarm.  Once the first surprising thing happens and you're in the main environment of the game, the amount of care put into the level / npc / mechanism / etc design really shows.  If you enjoy really cool airlocks and nice solid-feeling mechanisms, there are plenty of those too.

I was pleasantly surprised that once the initial mystery of who/what the protagonist is was starting to become pretty damn obvious to the player they addressed it in-game rather than dragging it out for an absurd amount of time (though all the details are not immediately obvious nor revealed).  There were a couple possible (overly used) endings that would have been really crappy that they thankfully did not fall victim to.

Story-wise my biggest complaint is the protagonist is not a blank slate, so you ride-along with someone who you may seriously disagree with.  I would have appreciated some minimal dialogue-treeing to allow me to express my own opinion on some things, even if it had no real impact on the story.

There's a no monsters (except for a couple necessary key bits) patch out there, which could be useful if you hate the encounters even more than I did (I might use it for a second play through sometime, to be able to spend more time exploring some areas I didn't get as good a look at as I would have liked):
https://www.reddit.com/r/soma/comments/3qqmb8/spoilers_release_of_my_soma_monster_mod_to_remove/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Draegan on November 02, 2015, 09:41:18 AM
If you like SMITE, here is another "FPS MOBA". Can get a key via this link here: https://rsvp.battleborn.com/ to try the beta via steam.

Checking it out now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nija on November 02, 2015, 11:29:23 AM
I may overuse the phrase "rainbow vomit" but Battleborn is totally rainbow vomit.

Let me know if you can figure out what's going on. I didn't have the patience to figure it out.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on November 02, 2015, 01:01:05 PM
I have a low tolerance for that shit, so I'll let you know... provided I ever get around to the login and playing part.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on November 02, 2015, 02:17:51 PM
It seems an indie MMO, Otherland, on Steam's early access (I'm sure people are shocked at that part) is being accused of paying for fake positive reviews.  Don't know if its true or not.  Don't care.  Game looks like shit and is made by some random shifty Russians.

http://mmos.com/editorials/otherland-has-hundreds-of-fake-paid-reviews-on-steam





Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ezrast on November 02, 2015, 05:58:03 PM
I may overuse the phrase "rainbow vomit" but Battleborn is totally rainbow vomit.

Let me know if you can figure out what's going on. I didn't have the patience to figure it out.
I'll take rainbow vomit over real-is-brown any day (looking at you, Vermintide).

Public discussion is prohibited under Battleborn's NDA, but much thanks to Draegan for the link!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on November 03, 2015, 12:20:09 AM
EDIT: NDA.

Judging from trailers and screenshots, this looks like Wildstar: The FPS.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on November 03, 2015, 12:28:30 AM
Activision Blizzard buys King for 5.9 billion (http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/11/activision-blizzard-to-buy-king-of-candy-crush-saga-fame-for-5-9-billion/). I get that whales sometimes spent an excessive amount of money on gems, but 5.9 billion for Candy Crush seems a tad excessive.

This will be yet another Zynga.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on November 03, 2015, 01:35:25 AM
Activision Blizzard buys King for 5.9 billion (http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/11/activision-blizzard-to-buy-king-of-candy-crush-saga-fame-for-5-9-billion/). I get that whales sometimes spent an excessive amount of money on gems, but 5.9 billion for Candy Crush seems a tad excessive.

This will be yet another Zynga.
Backwards, King buying companies to expand but not being able to bottle lightning twice would be another Zynga.

Activision buying them is just plain stupidity, greed and a marvelous misunderstanding of the casual/social gaming landscape. A fast-follow reskin of Hearthstone for Starcraft would make them more money than future King games.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on November 03, 2015, 05:59:33 AM
Yeah I heard that on the ride in this morning and was WTFing about it. Maybe if King had some elite crew or multiple games it would make sense but when all they've got is CC? Tech Bubble 2.0 in full effect on prices.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Father mike on November 03, 2015, 09:11:00 AM
Maybe what Activision payed for was King's crack legal team who managed to trademark "crush", "saga", and "candy".  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tmp on November 03, 2015, 02:05:45 PM
A fast-follow reskin of Hearthstone for Starcraft would make them more money than future King games.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on November 03, 2015, 02:12:39 PM
Win.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on November 03, 2015, 05:39:11 PM
Maybe what Activision payed for was King's crack legal team who managed to trademark "crush", "saga", and "candy".  :awesome_for_real:

So NPR had a bit from Kotick that almost explained the decision.
1) They realize that their current stable of designers are better at male-oriented hardcore games like CoD, SC2, and WoW.
2) There's huge money out there in the female casual games market.
3) Kings is currently the biggest profit center in that market, even if they only have one game.

So it makes sense in that I can see a businessperson making the decision based on those facts.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on November 03, 2015, 06:06:45 PM
Maybe what Activision payed for was King's crack legal team who managed to trademark "crush", "saga", and "candy".  :awesome_for_real:

So NPR had a bit from Kotick that almost explained the decision.
1) They realize that their current stable of designers are better at male-oriented hardcore games like CoD, SC2, and WoW.
2) There's huge money out there in the female casual games market.
3) Kings is currently the biggest profit center in that market, even if they only have one game.

So it makes sense in that I can see a businessperson making the decision based on those facts.

So, exactly Zynga.

Sick.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MahrinSkel on November 03, 2015, 06:10:16 PM
But at the end of the day, they have exactly one game that is a hit with the 'female casual games market'. A first mover 'lightning in a bottle' success they haven't replicated in any way. So exactly WTF does Activision think they are buying?

--Dave


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on November 03, 2015, 06:23:14 PM
Like I said, exactly Zynga.

Zynga had one hit that happened to strike a chord with weird ass housewives who thought farms were just neato and they bought like 50 companies crating a social gaming version of Activision.

They have not bottle that lightning since, and neither will King Activision Blizzard.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on November 03, 2015, 11:40:22 PM
Only Kotick would be able to frame it as "only women play those stupid money sink match three games" and sound like a complete dick in the process.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on November 04, 2015, 12:10:04 AM
No, everyone that says that sounds like a dick. But they aren't wrong on a monetization level. Men want to figure out how to game a f2p game. Women are happy to pay to win.

Source: the people that did the math


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on November 04, 2015, 06:11:14 AM
Maybe what Activision payed for was King's crack legal team who managed to trademark "crush", "saga", and "candy".  :awesome_for_real:

So NPR had a bit from Kotick that almost explained the decision.
1) They realize that their current stable of designers are better at male-oriented hardcore games like CoD, SC2, and WoW.
2) There's huge money out there in the female casual games market.
3) Kings is currently the biggest profit center in that market, even if they only have one game.

So it makes sense in that I can see a businessperson making the decision based on those facts.

So, exactly Zynga.

Sick.

Yep. Bad move but a business guy isn't going to see that, he's only going to see the dollars and assume they will convert to more dollars.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tmp on November 04, 2015, 06:50:56 AM
No, everyone that says that sounds like a dick. But they aren't wrong on a monetization level. Men want to figure out how to game a f2p game. Women are happy to pay to win.

Source: the people that did the math
I'm not convinced they did their math right, or alternatively there's a lot of women who play discreetly, my Lord World of Tanks and such.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Draegan on November 04, 2015, 09:53:51 AM
My wife played Farmville for like 3 months before quitting as she realized she was addicted (she's not a gamer at all). She dropped $60 bucks on the game before I could rip the laptop away from her. She hasn't touched a video game since.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on November 04, 2015, 10:27:05 AM
No, everyone that says that sounds like a dick. But they aren't wrong on a monetization level. Men want to figure out how to game a f2p game. Women are happy to pay to win.

Source: the people that did the math
I'm not convinced they did their math right, or alternatively there's a lot of women who play discreetly, my Lord World of Tanks and such.
We're talking very specifically about casual/social games. World of Tanks, Path of Exile, etc are hardcore games with reasonable F2P schemes, unless I'm missing something and those games are secretly pay2win.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Engels on November 04, 2015, 11:45:53 AM
I'd also like to know where the stats are coming from that there's a huge secret female playerbase for WoT. Sure, there are some celebrity women playing WoT in the EU (Rita Gamer, Jacqueline, for instance), but widespread? I don't think so.

Also, schild is right in his hunch that although WoT is technically f2p, it is not a game that can be played for free without a LOT of soul crushing grindage.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tmp on November 04, 2015, 11:48:43 AM
We're talking very specifically about casual/social games. World of Tanks, Path of Exile, etc are hardcore games with reasonable F2P schemes, unless I'm missing something and those games are secretly pay2win.
World of Tanks was my first thought because it's a game I consider pretty casual (you launch the game, you play a match and then rage-quit, all in under 15 mins a day)  But more seriously, there's also bunch of these web/tablet/whatever games that are in my eyes no different from Farmville except skinned to build a "kingdom" not a farm, and oddly enough I only see them advertised toward dudes --and lesbians, I guess-- with half naked chicks writhing and promising untold pleasures if only you click on that link. And we're talking millions spent on this, with literal Superbowl ads and shit. I have yet to see such an ad with a Chippendale in tight leather pants.

Which, if we accept for a second that the research is legit and dudes don't spend money in these casual games but women do, would be pants on head stupid, because shouldn't you rather be advertising to people your own research shows spend the money, not to the ones who don't? So the explanation I can see here is either #1, the research is off and the dudes spend money on these games too, enough of it to make such advertising worthwhile... or #2, these people can't do math, which puts in doubt their ability to properly do that initial math about who the money in these games comes from.

Personally i'm inclined towards #1, mainly because statistics you can find on the subject seem to vary wildly -- when you get three studies from around the same time (last year) and one claims only 5% of U.S. mobile/facebook players ever spend money on microtransactions, another puts this number at ~10-15% and another claims it's as high as 30-40% ... well, is there any reason to believe the other statistics they provide are any more accurate? :why_so_serious:

Incidentally -- a quick google search turned up some quite interesting insight (http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/14/whales-and-why-social-gamers-are-just-gamers/) why the spenders actually spend. They only interviewed dudes though, so maybe motivation is different, but it seems that they're much more about social aspect and helping friends who also play and such, than straight "pay to 'win'".


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tmp on November 04, 2015, 11:59:16 AM
I'd also like to know where the stats are coming from that there's a huge secret female playerbase for WoT.
That's not a statistic, and I should've put it in green, perhaps. The train of thoughts would be as follows:

* if dudes don't spend on F2P games, women do
* but World of Tanks appears highly profitable for their developer, with its current microtransaction system
* then where does the money that keeps them afloat comes from?

it's either a) dudes spend money too, or b) there must be lot of these money spending women in their playerbase.

However, schild's caveat that the spending habits of dudes are actually different in the soul-crushing grind games like WoT can work, idk. Personally I feel it's off and that they're quite happy/quick to spend in these casual titles too, but that's nothing more than a hunch -- and as I mentioned upthread the statistics you can find on the subject don't seem very reliable in general.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Engels on November 04, 2015, 12:04:22 PM
If the F13 WoT playerbase is anything to go on, yes,  males do spend money on some f2p games. I think Abagadro gave up drinking scotch to afford the WoT bill, though he claims 'health reasons'. :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on November 04, 2015, 01:22:04 PM
Like the Scotch was dulling his senses so he couldn't play WoT as effectively and it was raising his blood pressure? :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on November 04, 2015, 02:21:55 PM
Though I haven't spent as much money on WoT as I did on EQ...yet :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tmp on November 04, 2015, 03:39:55 PM
Like the Scotch was dulling his senses so he couldn't play WoT as effectively and it was raising his blood pressure? :awesome_for_real:
I think WoT does that blood pressure thing whether you drink of not. If anything, drinking may dull the pain :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on November 04, 2015, 04:29:57 PM
I've spent a "reasonable" amount on Path of Exile.  I have a lot of storage tabs.  All full of bullshit.  Also a "severed head" helmet cosmetic which is kinda kickass on my necromancer.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on November 04, 2015, 04:59:00 PM
I've spent some on PoE as well, but I don't think I've broken the $60 "real game price" threshold. Even if I had, I've more than gotten my money's worth.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on November 04, 2015, 07:27:54 PM
People, the problem here is that you have like 5 examples of "F2P games dudes play and spend big money on:" Hearthstone, WoT, PoE, League of Legends, and uhhh TF2?

Whereas with women, it's an ENTIRE GIANT MARKET WITH HUNDREDS OF GAMES THAT ARE UNIVERSALLY UTTER GARBAGE.

Of which King is the King of, and Zynga has become Queen (with Poker, Slots, and Ville).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on November 04, 2015, 07:30:42 PM
Note, I'm sure there are more, but this King purchase is about women and horrible, horrible practices (it's right up Kotick's alley). It is not about expanding their current market.

It's also about a hilarious misunderstanding of their board and executive management about the longevity and ability of companies like this.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mosesandstick on November 12, 2015, 01:05:31 PM
Duelyst is now in open beta. It's a turn based PvP game that blends some Magic the Gatrhering with any Tactical RPG out there. I haven't explored all of its intricacies but it certainly looks cool.

https://duelyst.com/


EDIT: Added trailer. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xn5P4NPgpU)

I remember passing this up on KS because I didn't want to take the risk - I've been playing it and it's a load of fun. I still haven't hit that wall I hit with Hearthstone where I felt that I'd have to drop a lot of money just to have fun messing around with building decks.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nija on November 13, 2015, 07:24:41 AM
I personally think they should have bought someone like Kabam who has a proven track record of working with big IPs.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on November 14, 2015, 08:35:20 AM
Is that Lord British game still a thing or should I stop believing in it? 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Gimfain on November 14, 2015, 09:02:29 AM
Is that Lord British game still a thing or should I stop believing in it? 
Its stuck in early access hell with an awful combat system. Its not going to be a thing


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on November 14, 2015, 09:52:45 AM
That's too bad.  Thanks.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on November 14, 2015, 12:14:37 PM
Yet there are people trading "Royal Founder" accounts for thousands of dollars. Development has also switched to a much more obvious Ultima Online 2 style, and here and there it is obvious that they are trying (hard) to bring some of that magic back. That said, as Gimfain said it is still behind on so many levels that it is hard to take it seriously, but there's definitely a bunch of people that is constantly supporting it and making it live quite well. So far, they have raised about 8 million dollars, which is not too shabby for the low quality of visuals they are polish they are aiming for anyway. Combat sucks, but it did so in UO too so it doesn't really matter for the target audience.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on November 14, 2015, 05:01:38 PM
Yet there are people trading "Royal Founder" accounts for thousands of dollars. Development has also switched to a much more obvious Ultima Online 2 style, and here and there it is obvious that they are trying (hard) to bring some of that magic back. That said, as Gimfain said it is still behind on so many levels that it is hard to take it seriously, but there's definitely a bunch of people that is constantly supporting it and making it live quite well. So far, they have raised about 8 million dollars, which is not too shabby for the low quality of visuals they are polish they are aiming for anyway. Combat sucks, but it did so in UO too so it doesn't really matter for the target audience.

Is this the one Lum (Scott Jennings) was writing for?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on November 15, 2015, 01:01:15 AM
He still is.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Zetor on November 15, 2015, 01:06:16 AM
So apparently ADOM is coming to Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/333300)... tomorrow? With graphics and achievements and shit?

I don't even.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Setanta on November 15, 2015, 04:17:44 AM
Impossible Creatures!! http://store.steampowered.com/app/324680/?snr=1_4_4__130_1

My son pinched my CDs years ago and then lost them, now re-released on Steam. I really liked this game. Now all they need is to re-release Homeworld: Cataclysm and my "Relic life" will be complete. :)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Teleku on November 15, 2015, 04:20:25 AM
So apparently ADOM is coming to Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/333300)... tomorrow? With graphics and achievements and shit?

I don't even.
Wow.  Day one purchase!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on November 24, 2015, 06:46:38 AM
Good news: AMD released a brand new driver software package that replaces the Catalyst Control Center with current/next gen support. Behold Radeon Crimson! (http://www.techspot.com/news/62895-amd-launches-radeon-software-crimson-driver.html)

Bad news: Radeon HD 8000 Series (HD 8400 and below), Radeon HD 7000 Series (HD 7600 and below), Radeon HD 6000 Series, and Radeon HD 5000 Series are now all legacy/retired. No more driver updates for the lot.

Guess it's time to pull the trigger on that new rig after all.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on November 24, 2015, 07:20:09 AM
wrong thread for that whoops


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MahrinSkel on November 24, 2015, 03:43:43 PM
So, you think *you* are hardcore (http://www.gamebreaker.tv/news-main/pc-2/girl-presumed-dead-living-in-internet-cafe-10-years/) because FO4 meant no contact with your family for the weekend?

--Dave


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on November 29, 2015, 04:09:48 PM
Raiinbow Six Siege is surprisingly cool, very cool. Borrowed "just enough" from MOBAs (Characters and special skills, 5v5) and applied it to a realistic, tactical FPS.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on November 30, 2015, 12:47:34 AM
Demon's Souls probably coming to the PS 4 according to destructoid


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on November 30, 2015, 12:54:13 AM
O.

M.

G.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on November 30, 2015, 01:49:21 AM
Like Demon Souls remake, or Demon Souls part deux?

Either way, /splooge


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on November 30, 2015, 01:54:07 AM
Demon's Souls probably coming to the PS 4 according to destructoid

Except the word they used is "might" not "probably", and they're just speculating based on the same thing other people have been speculating on (a picture on the official Bloodborne Twitter feed which showed some boxes of Bloodborne, with a box of PS3 Demon's Souls on top). Hopefully it happens, but it's just speculation right now. Desctructoid doesn't have any insider information on this.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on November 30, 2015, 02:17:58 AM
Yes, after clicking the link I have to say I don't think this is real.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on November 30, 2015, 07:26:26 AM
Still waiting for the Titan/Giant portal, so revisiting the original game would please me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on December 01, 2015, 06:43:31 AM
GTA V mod that adds 4k textures, lighting, weather, etc.. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeCPTb9r7nc)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on December 01, 2015, 09:10:12 AM
Man, fuck motion blur in the earhole.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on December 01, 2015, 10:18:54 AM
Depth of field is worse.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on December 01, 2015, 11:12:18 PM
I hate almost all post-process fullscreen effects. Ultimately the main thing they do is degrade overall image quality.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: lamaros on December 01, 2015, 11:47:15 PM
So is ADOM any good?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on December 02, 2015, 05:43:33 AM
not sure if serious


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on December 02, 2015, 06:51:51 AM
Suddenly I feel twenty years younger!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: lamaros on December 02, 2015, 12:58:40 PM
I mean the steam version. Worth the upgrade over the older one?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on December 02, 2015, 01:52:14 PM
I've never actually played it at all, but I love DCSS. Worth buying?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on December 03, 2015, 10:09:31 AM
This is probably naive of me, but I just got a PS4 and was pretty disappointed that none of the downloadable Playstation One games I had on my PS3 were available on the new console.  I just want some Final Fantasy Tactics, man.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ruvaldt on December 03, 2015, 10:53:09 AM
I mean the steam version. Worth the upgrade over the older one?

If you like slapping graphics onto roguelikes it might be.  I bought it and still play with ascii though.  You can change keybindings and a number of parameters when generating a new game, such as item drop rate, whether the character dies permanently upon death or if you can restart from your last save, and also the rate of chaos generation/mutation.  It was always possible to savescum but now it just does it automatically for you if you want.  Plus, it has achievements if you're into that sort of thing.

The new version has some additional content.  There's a new area with a character called the Ice Queen, for instance.  But that's also available on the free version.  It's just something that Thomas Biskup recently added and is worth mentioning if you haven't played in a while.

I was happy to finally pay the guy for the game since I've been playing it for almost 20 years so paying $15 was an easy decision.  Objectively though, the $15 doesn't really add a whole lot for someone like me and if I didn't have such a history with it I'd have waited for a sale.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on December 05, 2015, 01:42:44 PM
Raiinbow Six Siege is surprisingly cool, very cool. Borrowed "just enough" from MOBAs (Characters and special skills, 5v5) and applied it to a realistic, tactical FPS.

Has Uplay.  Will not buy.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on December 05, 2015, 08:33:10 PM
So is ADOM any good?
It's an interesting twist on the rogue-like genre, but the shit that could fuck your character up (mutations, chaos, etc) was too random for my taste.

If you're referring to the Steam version, I don't know that I'd pay for it.  You can get it for free, at least to try it out.

Or you could play Nethack!  (Sorry, just could not resist.)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: lamaros on December 06, 2015, 07:29:59 PM
I prefer ADOM to Nethack. My question was just about the steam implementation. Sorry for bad question expression.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on December 10, 2015, 05:27:49 PM
The Steam Controller being built. At Aperture Science  :awesome_for_real:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCgnWqoP4MM


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tmp on December 12, 2015, 07:31:59 AM
Best comment: "neurotoxin in Steam controller confirmed." :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on December 15, 2015, 02:51:39 PM
If any of you are familiar with the Spanish freeware game developer Locomalito's games like the Gradius-like Hydorah or the Ghosts 'n Goblins-style Maldita Castilla, he just released another game today: Curse of Issyos (http://www.locomalito.com/curse_of_issyos.php).

It's a platformer that feels kind of like a mix of Castlevania and Zelda II.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on December 16, 2015, 08:55:02 AM
Which Castlevania?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on December 16, 2015, 09:20:50 AM
The old ones, the NES ones.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on December 17, 2015, 10:31:51 AM
Sony has announced a partnership with Kojima Productions, Hideo Kojima's new independent development studio, which will create a new game for PlayStation platforms.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on December 17, 2015, 01:35:33 PM
That's so useless, it should be the first post in this thread.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nija on December 17, 2015, 05:54:51 PM
I'd think about it, but Sony has like two console launches to do before that game will come out.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on December 17, 2015, 09:32:25 PM
Well, good for him, at least.  This gets Kojima away from Metal Gear (which I think he's been wanting for a while) and Konami (which everyone else in the world has been wanting for a while).  I'm sad that now there's basically no chance of getting whatever his next thing is on PC, but whatever.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on December 17, 2015, 10:45:51 PM
I think they mentioned somewhere that it'll be a time limited PSwhatever exclusive, after which it will be released/ported to PC.  Whatever it is.  If it ever exists.. (and so on)

Kojima was gone from Metal Gear and Konami already.  This is just where he landed.  At least he's didn't land at Nintendo or start a mobile game studio.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on December 18, 2015, 02:19:01 AM
 :heart: American Truck Simulator :heart: gets a release date. February 3!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 18, 2015, 07:32:48 AM
Will it feature meth, peeing in bottles and rest stop gay sex?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nija on December 18, 2015, 08:01:24 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0u6Lb6RCz4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjapSF94eCc


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on December 25, 2015, 08:47:38 AM
Wife randomly surprised me with a PS4 for Christmas.  There goes my plans to buy a 970 and upgrade my gaming PC, but I"m not complaining.  Only complaint is she got me the Nathan Drake bundle, and I've already played all 3 uncharteds. 

Any suggestions on games that can be played in a week?  I'm going back to Texas on Jan 3rd and can't bring it with me, so I need some game that I can complete in that time.  I'm debating between Last of us, Wolfenstein: New Order, and Shadow of Morder (all of them $20 on the PSN store).  Any others I should consider?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: brellium on December 25, 2015, 11:10:09 AM
Wife randomly surprised me with a PS4 for Christmas.  There goes my plans to buy a 970 and upgrade my gaming PC, but I"m not complaining.  Only complaint is she got me the Nathan Drake bundle, and I've already played all 3 uncharteds. 

Any suggestions on games that can be played in a week?  I'm going back to Texas on Jan 3rd and can't bring it with me, so I need some game that I can complete in that time.  I'm debating between Last of us, Wolfenstein: New Order, and Shadow of Morder (all of them $20 on the PSN store).  Any others I should consider?
SoM

It's a fantastic murder simulator.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on December 25, 2015, 04:51:01 PM
Still playing Nuclear Throne (game timer says sixty hours played). I have sort of a love/hate relationship with that game.

On the one hand it's insanely fun and thrilling and I can't stop playing "just one more game". Even though I suck at bullet hellish things. The dual stick shooting mechanics feel great and the overall controls feel tight and have exactly the correct amount of heft and weight.

On the other hand this game is another example of just how toxic early access is for developers in terms of polish, design and the general quality of the product.

This game has been in development for two years. That's a lot of time for a game that has a core design team of six people, features twelve rather small levels and can be finished in under ten minutes. It still has a lot of issues in its core game design and mechanics, isn't play tested well and crashes regularly.

Even though the core gameloop still needs lots of work and polish the game meanwhile has twelve playable characters, a lot of unfinished secret levels and content, a coop mode that's broken and online leaderboards for dailys and weeklys that don't work half the time. The also still regularly break game saves with patches and content updates.

After two years of work the core game should be tight as fuck and all game subsystems like for example the procedural level generator or the randomizer for item and enemy spawns should work flawlessly. As it stands though items, level inventory and even enemies can spawn inside walls or out of bounds of the level (in which case the game despawns them and they don't show up). You can run out of ammo half way though a run just by sheer bad luck. Which will make you fail the try since the game has no default weapon. The game may spawn beginner guns in harder areas making them hard or impossible to complete before running out of ammo and the level generator regularly generates levels that consist of one big room with you and all of your enemies in it. Since enemy line of sight is much farther than what you can see on screen this will mean that you die in harder later areas since two hits will kill you. The game also has no invincibility frames after a hit making everything essentially one hit kill later on. Just a few examples of stuff that needs attention in my opinion.

This game could be binding of Isaac levels of greatness but it lacks focus as the designers add more and more superficial crap to the game even though they should rather fix what's still broken in the core of the game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on December 25, 2015, 04:59:55 PM
Early access makes me sad because the lack of external oversight coupled with a game that has essentially already been paid for by your customers makes it so that the Dev team often just does what is fun or interesting to do until the funds run out or the team gets bored and they move on.

Those projects sadly more often than not don't focus on the work items that make a game polished and tight but are often boring and repetitive like for example condtantly iterating on the core game systems, bug fixing, play testing and tweaking of mechanical aspects.

This leads to lots of games that could be really great but that mostly consist of a great core idea that is only half implemented and lots of superficial content grafted onto as developers and designers regularly move on from the boring "iterate on it until it works" before the "works" stage has been reached to focus on the next great feature that is much more interesting to work on.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on December 25, 2015, 05:44:58 PM
Grr.

Since i hadn't logged into my PS3 account in about 3-4 years (when I originally got my PS3) I don't remember the password to my PSN account, and of course Sony isn't prepared for christmas so emails are massively delayed, so I'm sitting here with a useless PS4 waiting for a verification email to come through.

Reading online people have been waiting 4 hours..... blah.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Draegan on December 26, 2015, 07:32:05 AM
I just bought Grim Dark on sale on steam. This is actually a pretty decent ARPG.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on December 26, 2015, 07:49:51 AM
15 hours later, still can't create or get the password for my psn account.  So still stuck with a paper weight unless I go and pay extra for a game in the retail store rather than through PSN.  lovely.....


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Montague on December 27, 2015, 12:15:31 AM
I'm playing Elite: Dangerous for reasons I don't quite understand. If they would actually build a game around the space sim proof of concept demo it'd be a runaway hit.

Edit: For some reason I thought I was in the What Are You Playing Thread. Ignore me  :headscratch:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on January 11, 2016, 03:11:06 AM
I'm getting more and more irrationally angry about games that don't put enough effort in the basics. I somehow feel that this has been continually getting worse over the last two years.

The last case was with Binding of Isaac: Rebirth + Afterbirth for the PC. It started in a tiny window that was probably 640 by 480 on my 4k Display and it was so small that I could barely read any of the in game text. The game doesn't have an option to set the resolution or the aspect ratio for windowed mode or fullscreen mode. You can resize the window and it resizes the whole game and game UI which can look really really bad depending on how you resized it. The only graphical option the game has is a "fullscreen" toggle that can't deal with the 16x10 aspect ratio of my screen and which cuts off the left and right side of the game probably assuming that this is a 16x9 display.

I then spent an hour or so googling and reading forum posts hoping that I could find a useful hint as to how I could fix my issues. I also checked the homepage of the developer for an FAQ or any sort of help. Then I gave up and decided I'd rather play Rebirth on my PS4 instead.

In the grand scheme these things are no big deal. I was nevertheless sitting at my desk, cursing out the developers for not having an option I thought was absolutely necessary in their now 5 year old game and cursing out the internet for not being at all helpful as to how I could fix my issues.

I encounter this more and more - especially with "Indie" titles that a game has lots and lots of stuff but lacks "basic" things it probably should have in the first place.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on January 15, 2016, 12:56:12 PM
Dark cloud 2 is releasing on ps4 next week; goodbye, February productivity.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 15, 2016, 01:21:35 PM
Did I read this correctly?

Why not just PCSX2?  No original disk?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Morat20 on January 17, 2016, 12:51:01 PM
Well, apparently I somehow filled up the 500gb PS4 drive already. That was...fast.

Ordered a 2TB drive from Amazon, I hear swapping it out is pretty straightforward. Hopefully that will last longer.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 21, 2016, 06:11:12 AM
I have that same task on my TODO.  I don't see much reason to go SSD when I really just need the most enormous storage.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on January 21, 2016, 06:19:35 AM
I replaced my PS4 hard drive not too long ago, replaced the 500gb 5400rpm with a 500gb 7400RPM sshd that I had lying around.  Super super simple.

From the research I did, a 7400RPM or SSHD will give you 90% of the performance bump that an ssd will get you, so a full on SSD isn't worth it (unless you really have money to burn).  Even then a 7400rpm/SSHD drive still only shaves a couple of seconds off.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nija on January 21, 2016, 07:40:19 AM
It's drastically more than a few seconds on the hybrid drives. I have been using a hybrid drive since I purchased my PS4. What isn't much of a difference is between hybrid drives and SSDs. I almost pulled the trigger on the cheap 500 gb SSDs last cyber Monday, then I remembered that I have 850 GB in use on my PS4.

If you have ever played Destiny, I can load the tower and make it to the cryptarch before people with stock HDs load into the world.

If you haven't played Destiny, here is a map:

https://exosofdestiny.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/destiny_20150728161356.jpg



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on January 21, 2016, 08:48:34 AM
That's actually been my biggest complaint about the PS4 and the reason I'll get cross platform games for my PC.  I would much rather have them on PS4 due to my house layout.  I'll look into it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nija on January 21, 2016, 10:20:45 AM
I haven't had a gaming PC in 3 years now.

Here's a list of worthwhile PC games that I have missed:







Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 21, 2016, 11:47:00 AM
Well, when you are the kind of person that manages to play Destiny for more than a couple of weeks, then


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nija on January 21, 2016, 12:37:29 PM
I played Destiny at launch for about a week. (in real time - not a week /played) It wasn't very good.

The expansion they launched last fall? Super good. I played about 6 weeks real time, almost every day. I think it's a solid game at the moment.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on January 21, 2016, 07:50:27 PM
It's drastically more than a few seconds on the hybrid drives. I have been using a hybrid drive since I purchased my PS4. What isn't much of a difference is between hybrid drives and SSDs. I almost pulled the trigger on the cheap 500 gb SSDs last cyber Monday, then I remembered that I have 850 GB in use on my PS4.

That's good to know, I"m just going going off of what I read.  I plan to upgrade it to a higher capacity SSHD at some point since they are cheap.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MahrinSkel on January 22, 2016, 11:23:02 AM
An SSHD, even under optimal conditions (reading something it correctly anticipated needed to be on the SS cache) generally will still not perform as well as a good SSD. Whenever it guesses wrong and does not cache the data on the Solid State cache, it will perform no better than a normal HDD.

I'd rather do the managing of what needs to be on the SSD vs. the HDD. It's not hard: Games, programs that tend to do a lot of caching: On the SSD. Everything else: On the HDD.

--Dave


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on January 22, 2016, 11:49:44 AM
Oh, Nintendo. 900p resolution? Going for the mainstream market there. "Looks like shit on 720p AND 1080p monitors!"


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on January 22, 2016, 12:05:42 PM
Just trying to copy the Xbox One :rimshot:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nija on January 22, 2016, 12:38:27 PM
An SSHD, even under optimal conditions (reading something it correctly anticipated needed to be on the SS cache) generally will still not perform as well as a good SSD. Whenever it guesses wrong and does not cache the data on the Solid State cache, it will perform no better than a normal HDD.

I'd rather do the managing of what needs to be on the SSD vs. the HDD. It's not hard: Games, programs that tend to do a lot of caching: On the SSD. Everything else: On the HDD.

Talking about the PS4. On a PC, just buy a SSD for everything. On a PS4, I'm not sure it makes sense to spend an equal amount of money on a SSD as it does the entire system.

1) The PS4 is built for blu-ray access patterns.
2) Which is some game data and sequential reads for level assets
3) Which is PRETTY EASY for SSHDs to understand

Here is what you can do to a stock PS4 for roughly $80 2 years ago. I don't know what the drive costs now. If it doesn't jump to the right part, skip ahead to 1m20s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5EYBtC21a4#t=1m20s

And here's that old article that is often thrown around: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ps4-hard-drive-upgrade,3695-3.html


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MahrinSkel on January 22, 2016, 01:18:52 PM
An SSHD, even under optimal conditions (reading something it correctly anticipated needed to be on the SS cache) generally will still not perform as well as a good SSD. Whenever it guesses wrong and does not cache the data on the Solid State cache, it will perform no better than a normal HDD.

I'd rather do the managing of what needs to be on the SSD vs. the HDD. It's not hard: Games, programs that tend to do a lot of caching: On the SSD. Everything else: On the HDD.

Talking about the PS4. On a PC, just buy a SSD for everything. On a PS4, I'm not sure it makes sense to spend an equal amount of money on a SSD as it does the entire system.

1) The PS4 is built for blu-ray access patterns.
2) Which is some game data and sequential reads for level assets
3) Which is PRETTY EASY for SSHDs to understand

Here is what you can do to a stock PS4 for roughly $80 2 years ago. I don't know what the drive costs now. If it doesn't jump to the right part, skip ahead to 1m20s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5EYBtC21a4#t=1m20s

And here's that old article that is often thrown around: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ps4-hard-drive-upgrade,3695-3.html
I didn't realize we were talking about a PS4. Yes, that would be a little different. And with literally every PS4 and XBone game running 40+ gig, you could eat up any reasonably priced SSD in a hurry.

--Dave


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Morat20 on January 22, 2016, 10:45:16 PM
Finally did the swap. Was pretty easy. Could have swapped the whole drive (applications included) but I was too lazy to clear the space to hold it (back up the 500gb system to the 2TB drive, save that on my PC, clear the 2TB drive, put it in, but the backup on the 500GB drive, restore...).

Seems fine. It's downloading tons of crap overnight, of course. And I'm not 100% sure all my codes transferred.

Otherwise, the most PITA part was I kept overlooking the full firmware download button in favor of the update button, which required me to run back and forth a bit before I felt like a moron and fixed it.

Maybe an hour, and that included popping in every game to trigger the downloads and re-selecting the digital stuff to download. Only thing I seem to have lost is a copy of Injustice: Gods Among Us, which I still have no idea why or how it appeared on my system anyways. I think my wife somehow got it for free when we first got the system, but it doesn't show up in her library.

Weird. Oh well, played it once and said "Fuck it, I suck at this shit".


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on January 23, 2016, 06:56:35 AM
It was a PS+ game at one point; that's how I got it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Morat20 on January 23, 2016, 03:55:02 PM
It was a PS+ game at one point; that's how I got it.
Yeah, pretty sure that's how my wife got it. But it doesn't show up for either of our accounts. But other PS+ games we've purchased have. But perhaps not all of them. I might have forgotten a few.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on January 28, 2016, 01:15:02 PM
Peter Molyneux has retired from the games industry:

https://twitter.com/pmolyneux/status/692816249559093254


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on January 28, 2016, 01:16:36 PM
Yeah, see you in a year or two Peter.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ruvaldt on January 28, 2016, 01:33:22 PM
Apparently his retirement was just as overhyped as his last five games.   :why_so_serious:

His Twitter account was hacked and isn't retiring after all.  I would urge him to reconsider.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on January 28, 2016, 01:37:03 PM
Oh, well, too bad then.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ard on January 28, 2016, 02:48:05 PM
Welp, one of my favorite small game developers is about to go under again  Link goes to the details of the train wreck by the owner.
:|

https://arcengames.com/great-work-on-starward-rogue-team-now-youre-all-laid-off/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: penfold on January 28, 2016, 03:08:13 PM
On the Molyneux note, did anyone see the news about an AI beating a good human Go player for the first time? I caught the news clip and the head of the AI team was none of than Demis Hassabis, of Republic:The Revolution/Bullfrog fame, and he still looks like a teenager.

I also didnt realise (or maybe forgot) he co-formed DeepMind and sold it Google for $625m and remains senior management.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on January 28, 2016, 07:22:40 PM
Once again, Molyneux disappoints.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on January 31, 2016, 03:27:26 AM
Quote
Oh, but one thing.  Just a tiny thing.  Because of this insane schedule, and the fact that the game was going to be coming hot off the presses right as release happened, there wasn’t going to be time for advanced marketing, PR, awareness, etc.  No launch reviews.  Ugh!  But to combat that, we did a really big promotion with a Bionic Dues giveaway with Humble Store in exchange for a lot of promotional awareness about Starward Rogue.

If I'm reading this correctly they took on extra debt to push the game out the door as quickly as possible with no marketing or any sort of advance buzz. And the game is a lo-fi twin stick shooter, AKA the sort of game that comes out on Steam every week now.

In the modern Steam environment if you release a game with no existing buzz or marketing you will sell essentially nothing. How they would not know this after being on Steam for years is baffling to me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on February 02, 2016, 08:23:39 AM
Just what you thought happened with Kickstarter funds sometimes.

http://gamasutra.com/view/news/264885/Ant_Simulator_dev_quits_after_partners_allegedly_blow_company_funds.php


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on February 02, 2016, 08:55:32 AM
Wow, PS3 emulation is currently coming along extremely well (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsuKQfsu-zk)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 03, 2016, 01:17:23 PM
I find that very interesting.  I'll have to find out more about obtaining the images and such.  Because fuck PS Now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Gimfain on February 03, 2016, 03:19:27 PM
Molyneux's Godus Wars is now available at steam early access. (http://store.steampowered.com/app/422420/)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on February 03, 2016, 03:35:49 PM
Is this a sequel to that pile of shit he never finished, or an expansion?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on February 03, 2016, 04:01:35 PM
Looks like it's an RTS in the Godus engine.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: apocrypha on February 04, 2016, 12:30:47 AM
Anyone who gives Molyneux a single penny for an early access game is either mentally ill or knows nothing about anything.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 04, 2016, 12:35:44 AM
30% positive rating  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on February 04, 2016, 12:55:47 AM
Molyneux is like a bad ex-girlfriend who isn't hot any more. "I swear I've changed - this time I mean it."

This is the same shit he says every time. Bonus points on doing a press tour about how he's not going to do press tours any more.

It makes me kind of sad because there is some talent in there somewhere, but it seems like the bullshit con artist side has consumed the talented side.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 04, 2016, 01:11:58 AM
Molyneux is like a bad ex-girlfriend boyfriend who isn't hot nor nice any more. "I swear I've changed - this time I mean it."

Fixed it for you.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on February 04, 2016, 05:07:27 AM
30% positive rating  :why_so_serious:

Quote
EDIT: So apparently, after you defeat the first island (circa 20 battles), the game throws up a $5 USD paywall (http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=615515357) to unlock the next island. In other words, the initial $15 USD only actually covers the first half of the content available on release day. For comparison, the $20 USD total price tag of the existing content is now on par with Age of Empires II HD, a fully finished, expansions-included, multiplayer-capable RTS with very favorable reviews. Nice!

Wow.

Wooooooow.

Bravo, Peter. Bra-vo. You fucking scumbag.

And of course, the store page makes no mention at all of a paywall in the game itself.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on February 04, 2016, 09:10:48 AM
Yeah, once I hit that review, I stopped reading the reviews. Fuck a bunch of that shit. Not that I would have bought it with both the Godus brand name and Peter Molyneux on it but damn. Fuck Peter Molyneux.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on February 04, 2016, 09:29:49 AM
We really need Molyneux, Schafer, and Blow to bring us the ultimate crowd funded, experimental, high art, ground breaking, masterpiece of an adventure/puzzler/hit-a-button-repeatedly game. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 04, 2016, 11:31:24 AM
We really need Molyneux, Schafer, and Blow to bring us the ultimate crowd funded, experimental, high art, ground breaking, masterpiece of an adventure/puzzler/hit-a-button-repeatedly game. 
A clicker game would be an improvement for all of them.

But Molyneux already did one.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 15, 2016, 08:54:58 AM
Today Downfall is being re-released and revamped. Here's a trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ycWmGmPpLQ

It's from the author of The Cat Lady. You must pay attention.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on February 15, 2016, 10:49:04 AM
When did Pretentious B&W Indie Comic Side Scrolling by Hipster Douche become a fucking genre?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 15, 2016, 11:10:30 AM
You don't know what you are talking about.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on February 15, 2016, 11:18:25 AM
You could very well be right. That's just the first impression I got from that video.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 15, 2016, 11:27:57 AM
Seriously there isn't that much hipsterism or douchebaggery in Remigiusz Michalski that I know of.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 23, 2016, 11:57:01 AM
Saw ToMe go on Steam sale just now, thinking about picking it up (I know it's free too). But thinking about playing it, I just wanted an android version and saw this:

http://te4.org/blogs/darkgod/2015/01/android/tales-majeyal-android-oh-yes-baby

So nothing soon, but something someday.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hutch on February 23, 2016, 12:09:12 PM
That page is illegible.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 23, 2016, 01:32:29 PM
Also not news, thought it was last month, it was 13 months ago  :grin:

tldr decent roguelike maybe someday releases on android or not


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 23, 2016, 06:21:42 PM
When did Pretentious B&W Indie Comic Side Scrolling by Hipster Douche become a fucking genre?

Braid?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 29, 2016, 02:13:14 AM
Call of Cthulhu is being made. Note that the logo/font is the same of the 80's Chaosium books, so if you like me think that that was the best pen and paper RPG ever made, it's enough to hit your with a d6 Sanity loss.

http://callofcthulhu-game.com/

And yet, who is making it? Cyanide.

Fuck.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on February 29, 2016, 02:52:28 AM
I dunno, Cyanide seems pretty good at cosmic horror in games.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 29, 2016, 07:41:02 AM
Procedural Jonestown Massacre simulator. Well this time with you meddling with the outcome. Voices are from the lady who voiced GLaDOS and the gent who voiced the sniper in Team Fortress 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyiZczAveOs


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on February 29, 2016, 11:23:41 AM
Call of Cthulhu is being made. Note that the logo/font is the same of the 80's Chaosium books, so if you like me think that that was the best pen and paper RPG ever made, it's enough to hit your with a d6 Sanity loss.

YAY!!!!

And yet, who is making it? Cyanide.

Fuck.

You could not have disappointed me more if you had literally shit in my Cheerios.


EDIT:

Procedural Jonestown Massacre simulator. Well this time with you meddling with the outcome. Voices are from the lady who voiced GLaDOS and the gent who voiced the sniper in Team Fortress 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyiZczAveOs

... the fuck?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MahrinSkel on February 29, 2016, 02:14:40 PM
Procedural Jonestown Massacre simulator. Well this time with you meddling with the outcome. Voices are from the lady who voiced GLaDOS and the gent who voiced the sniper in Team Fortress 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyiZczAveOs
I don't know if I am fascinated, or horrified.  I don't know if I want to play this, or refer anyone who does for counseling.

--Dave


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on March 01, 2016, 01:07:13 AM
That's a real headscratcher.  With a side dose of WTF.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on March 01, 2016, 07:40:54 AM
It looks like you play a member of some kind of resistance. It's actually kind of an interesting premise. I have no idea how the gameplay will actually be.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 01, 2016, 08:44:23 AM
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/WxF7GdyHA4I/hqdefault.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on March 07, 2016, 06:43:44 AM
Ron Gilbert and Gary Winnick seem to return to form with the upcoming Thimbleweed Park. (https://thimbleweedpark.com/)

Make sure to watch the trailer, if Maniac Mansion meant anything to you.

https://vimeo.com/157583742


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 07, 2016, 07:01:23 AM
I'm done giving any thought to people who made games back when basically anyone without a job or ambition could make one.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on March 07, 2016, 07:33:31 AM
That's an interesting statement, and one I would be inclined to agree after thinking about it for a few minutes.

But it leads me to a question that I would really like to hear opinions about: would you say that it was easier to make and sell games in 1986 than it is in 2016? I am purposedly leaving out the 30 years in between.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fordel on March 07, 2016, 07:35:29 AM
Absolutely easier to make them.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on March 07, 2016, 08:24:15 AM
That's an interesting statement, and one I would be inclined to agree after thinking about it for a few minutes.

But it leads me to a question that I would really like to hear opinions about: would you say that it was easier to make and sell games in 1986 than it is in 2016? I am purposedly leaving out the 30 years in between.

I wasn't old enough to be computer literate in '86, but I get the impression that nowadays it probably has a lower floor but a higher ceiling.  It's easier to make SOMETHING, there are tons of tools and instructional videos and asset libraries and stuff.  But I think we're also way past the point where a handful of guys in a basement over the summer can be said to be leading the way.  I mean, it still happens occasionally (Minecraft to a degree) but the days of something like Space Quest or Ultima being the industry standard are gone.  Nowadays if you're trying to make a living selling zero budget titles you're facing some REALLY steep odds.

edit: to put it another way, in 2046 nobody is going to be making successful seven digit kickstarters on the backs of their 2015 Newgrounds "escape the room" game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on March 07, 2016, 08:41:40 AM
That's the thing: much higher ceiling, but much lower floor. How could it be easier to make a game in 1986 when you were supposed to learn completely foreigh languages and hardware, and there were no tutorials and even just selling it was a big mess, as opposed to now that all kind of knowledge travels (for free) at light speed, everything is pretty much just an editor, has a million tutorials either embedded or on youtube and there are a thousand forums to check and confront your ideas or ask for help, let alone places to push or advertise or sell your products?

That's why I am interested in opinions, because that question seems to have an easy answer, but seriously? And I get what you say about the zero budget titles and the steep odds, but wouldn't that be because there is more competition now instead of being harder to make a game?

I would say it is a million times easier to make a game now (lower floor). There is just much more competition (higher ceiling). But in 2016, even more than in 1986, "anyone without a job or ambition can make one".


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nija on March 07, 2016, 09:11:02 AM
It's not that it was easier to make them back in '86, it's just that people expected less.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 07, 2016, 09:14:00 AM
http://news.xbox.com/2016/03/07/microsoft-studios-changes-uk-denmark/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

And the crowd doesn't give a shit. Good riddance, Molyneux.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on March 07, 2016, 09:32:15 AM
http://news.xbox.com/2016/03/07/microsoft-studios-changes-uk-denmark/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

And the crowd doesn't give a shit. Good riddance, Molyneux.

Molyneux left Microsoft / Lionhead years ago, didn't he?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on March 07, 2016, 09:33:03 AM
Yes, in 2012.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 07, 2016, 09:41:56 AM
People seem to forget the massive buckets of shit that used to come out in the old days. I knew a guy who knew a guy who definitely was not in a pirating ring and had thousands of disks of C64 games. Maybe a couple dozen worth playing.

It was easier, I was making games in the 80s.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bunk on March 07, 2016, 09:55:30 AM
I was going to be sad about this until I remembered what a shitshow Fable 3 was, and how much worse Legends looked to be.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Selby on March 07, 2016, 10:34:56 AM
People seem to forget the massive buckets of shit that used to come out in the old days. I knew a guy who knew a guy who definitely was not in a pirating ring and had thousands of disks of C64 games. Maybe a couple dozen worth playing.
I was there as a player way back when and I agree. Thousands of games, maybe two dozen or so I liked and maybe half a dozen worth remembering fondly.

Games are "easier" to make now solely because the information is easier to get to make one. Making a quality game that leads the way? Not any easier but not exactly that much harder either (hint: it was never easy). Biggest drawback is the amount of graphics people "expect" a game to have.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on March 07, 2016, 10:52:07 AM
The graphics alone are a major cockblock. You are expexcted to achieve a certain level of graphic fidelity that is in excess of the skill level of your average programmer. People spend careers being digital artists, and even then some of them wind-up bad at it.

A 20-something in the garage that is using pirated software* and YouTube is going to have a significant time investment just getting to, "Well that's not garbage" level. Then they get to tackle all the different aspects of coding the program rules. Then Networking. Then mob AI or pathing or collision detection.

Shit's just more complicated than the pixel days.

(Then there's the whole, "Oh you did this with pirated software? Here's your lawsuit, the seizure of your assets and the jail sentence.")


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 07, 2016, 01:43:56 PM
Someone making a game in 1986 might be able to program sprites and count hit points, but I'd suggest that it's about as hard now to make the game part well, with the added handicap of everything already being done to death.  So, if you're any good at making the gamey-game bit, you're possibly doing it on board games or card games, or PnP, instead of getting mired in TEH GAEM INDESTRY of 2016.

Related: who cares what Miyamoto thinks now?  Anything interesting since Pikmin?  No, and that's OK.  Go enjoy retirement as a game legend.  Or, in the case of some people, a game footnote.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Selby on March 07, 2016, 02:35:53 PM
Related: who cares what Miyamoto thinks now?  Anything interesting since Pikmin?  No, and that's OK.  Go enjoy retirement as a game legend.  Or, in the case of some people, a game footnote.
No idea why some people who did well early on in their careers feel the need to try and be relevant now without any groundbreaking ideas.  I peaked early in my professional career and I'm perfectly ok with that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 07, 2016, 06:14:24 PM
I assume they want more dollars.  I am sure I'd try to cash in on past glory, if I had any.

Actually, I suppose that's sort of what a resume is.  However, I'm expected to do some new shit instead of retread old shit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 08, 2016, 09:50:48 AM
Shit's just more complicated than the pixel days.
Then you get a gem like Stardew Valley and it reminds you that maybe people are making it more complicated than they have to.

I mean, Ultima 9.

And I /liked/ Ultima 8. 3d killed 2d pretty hard, and often unnecessarily. I'd still rather have a high res 2d Civ or HoMaM game than anything they've done since going 3d. No need for it.

Now excuse me while I go yell at a cloud.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nija on March 08, 2016, 10:07:04 AM
Time has healed Ultima 8 for you.

The only things I specifically recall from U8 are the following:

Those jumping puzzles with the roundish rocks that look like they occupied more tiles than they really did. Instant death if you fall in the water.
The groups of children north of town. I power leveled by killing groups of children, no kidding.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 08, 2016, 01:36:09 PM
No, I liked it. Though that was conditional on the jumping fix patch (and I was a habitual saver, so probably saved before every jump if it was a thing).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nija on March 08, 2016, 03:15:54 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk0pDM7N62k


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on March 08, 2016, 04:13:12 PM
Shit's just more complicated than the pixel days.
Then you get a gem like Stardew Valley and it reminds you that maybe people are making it more complicated than they have to.

Stardew Valley isn't exactly a runaway smash hit.  It's doing great for a niche title (compared to the ocean of also rans which have been pretty (http://store.steampowered.com/app/423770/) much (http://store.steampowered.com/app/328220/) ignored (http://store.steampowered.com/app/432010/)) but it's not going to rival, say, The Division.  That (lone) dev has been working on that game since 2012, and now he gets maybe a few weeks worth of sales in the top ten (as far as I can see the numbers have been dropping since the 6th) as a budget title.  Pointing to it and saying "see, it's THAT EASY" seems a bit oversimplified.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 08, 2016, 09:13:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk0pDM7N62k
You appear to think you're making a point here.

Pointing to it and saying "see, it's THAT EASY" seems a bit oversimplified.
Not what I'm doing. Also, no shit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on March 08, 2016, 10:50:09 PM
Pointing to it and saying "see, it's THAT EASY" seems a bit oversimplified.
Not what I'm doing. Also, no shit.

My bad.  I know a few guys who bitch constantly about the state of AAA video games who are genuinely of the opinion that "the market" should just go back to the 90s and start making nothing but small or mid sized games again, like you can just un-ring the bell and keep making those kinds of games with that kind of profit forever.  Every time an indie game does decently they jump up and go "SEE, ACTIVISION SHOULD BE COPYING NUCLEAR THRONE, YOU KNOW THEY POSTED A LOSS LAST QUARTER BECAUSE STARCRAFT FLOPPED THAT PROVES IT" or whatever.  Thought you were taking that angle.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on March 09, 2016, 03:52:48 AM
What they really want is Indie pricing for everything. They are used to the fact that for example a Nuclear Throne is less than $20, because the dev tools have improved so much that you now need fewer people to make that kind of game. Secondly because of online retail services and less overhead costs as a consequence. Thirdly because Indie studios "undervalue" their work and the race to the bottom led to people being afraid to charge more than x amount of dollars for it.

See: The hubbub about Hello Games' "No Man's Sky" that gets derided by internet fuckwads for charging full price for their game. The argument I most often read is that "they're Indie, this is an Indie game. Why do they charge AAA prices".

What they fail to realize is that a Nuclear Throne would be a cartridge in a nice retail box if we're talking nineties here and that it would have retailed for full price. Like all of the games that are beloved from that era.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 09, 2016, 08:06:19 AM
My point was more about how quickly the industry dropped 2d graphics and we had titles that really didn't need to be 3d that went 3d just because. Whether it radically changed the game (Ultima 9) or not (Civ 4), it was pointless. Imo Civ 4 was far uglier than Civ 3 when it should have been even more detailed with high res sprites. Ditto HoMaM (why I called those two out in particular).

There's no reason why there shouldn't be 'AAA' games created in the old 2d style. I'd love to see a new Ultima (not by Richard Garriot) in the vibe of Ultima 7/7.5 done with modern advances in design and UI but just refining the old graphics rather than pointlessly 3d modelling everything. Driftmoon had a lot of elements but it was too cutesy for my taste.

I do agree that it's easy to miss an indie title in the vast morass of crap that people can shove out. But you could say the same about AAA, everyone is all into the Division right now, but it just looks like another generic AAA title that will fade quickly and become a sequel mill.

If No Man's Sky can deliver a quarter of its promise I have no problem handing over my earth dollars. But it smells vaguely of Spore (which really had so much promise but showed why a AAA studio cannot develop an innovative title).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on March 09, 2016, 09:13:53 AM
My point was more about how quickly the industry dropped 2d graphics and we had titles that really didn't need to be 3d that went 3d just because.

Here ya go!!

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/03/how-a-new-emulator-generates-3d-scenes-from-2d-nes-games/

 :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bunk on March 11, 2016, 01:59:39 PM
This seems like a good spot for something totally random, but PC related. I just discovered that Google Groups has online archives of all the old newsgroups I used to frequent. Very weird reading posts I made to rec.games.computer.ultima.online 18 years ago.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rattran on March 11, 2016, 02:15:54 PM
I think I'm too scared to go back and read my own posts from there.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 11, 2016, 02:31:08 PM
It didn't archive alt.binaries.erotica.redheads did it? I'm asking for a friend.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on March 12, 2016, 11:06:52 PM
Diablo 2 patch - 1.14a (http://us.battle.net/en/forum/topic/20742864181)

Meant to enable D2 to run on modern machines.

So, if you're itching to play an ARPG, and aren't playing Marvel Heroes 2016/Grim Dawn/PoE/Diablo 3/I'm sure I am missing like 20 other games, there you go!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on March 13, 2016, 01:30:05 AM
They're doing the same thing for Warcraft III next week, apparently.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on March 13, 2016, 11:18:59 AM
Yeah, I was curious, so reinstalled my digital version of Diablo II LOD from the Battlenet.

Jesus Christ, it has not aged well.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on March 13, 2016, 12:44:12 PM
16 Years is a long, long time in Games & Tech.  72" televisions were tubes and had a massive 480p resolution, mobile phones were a new thing, internet was a bunch of us yahoos on privately-run message boards while everyone else used dial-up AOL, Google was a 2 year old search engine company, Everquest had released Ruins of Kunark two months prior, and the Trammel had just happened a month before.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on March 13, 2016, 12:59:03 PM
There's was news a couple years ago that Bliz was working/hiring people to make HD/next-gen working versions of Warcraft II/III and possibly Diablo II. Maybe this is just the start.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 13, 2016, 06:23:50 PM
If they next-genned up Diablo 2 I would tell my lovely wife that she better learn to love it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on March 13, 2016, 06:31:20 PM
That'd be pretty boss.  This is probably enough to get me to do another play through of Diablo 2 at least.  I seem to be good for about one a year.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on March 13, 2016, 06:42:27 PM
I haven't touched it in a while; an HD update would be a good reason to go back.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on March 13, 2016, 06:58:17 PM
It'd prompt me to try to dig up my keys again, at least.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on March 13, 2016, 07:04:03 PM
It'd prompt me to try to dig up my keys again, at least.

You should do that anyway, just to archive them on your battlenet account. I lost my disks years ago but still can d/l and play the games because I did that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on March 13, 2016, 09:50:17 PM
I've made a couple of efforts to find my D2 case, but I have not managed it.  :/

It may be lost and gone forever.  Ah well.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 13, 2016, 09:58:18 PM
16 Years is a long, long time in Games & Tech.  72" televisions were tubes and had a massive 480p resolution, mobile phones were a new thing, internet was a bunch of us yahoos on privately-run message boards while everyone else used dial-up AOL, Google was a 2 year old search engine company, Everquest had released Ruins of Kunark two months prior, and the Trammel had just happened a month before.


13 years ago I had a 720p 61" tv connected to my computer you cunts.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 13, 2016, 11:51:53 PM
16 Years is a long, long time in Games & Tech.  72" televisions were tubes and had a massive 480p resolution, mobile phones were a new thing, internet was a bunch of us yahoos on privately-run message boards while everyone else used dial-up AOL, Google was a 2 year old search engine company, Everquest had released Ruins of Kunark two months prior, and the Trammel had just happened a month before.


13 years ago I had a 720p 61" tv connected to my computer you cunts.
Yea, you wouldn't shut up about it. Literally everyone around from back then remembers it. We remember it so well your grief title reflects it, and it will likely never change.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on March 14, 2016, 05:43:46 AM
Not to mention 720p is still terrible definition for such a large screen. Hell, 1080p is awful but 4k isn't the standard and won't be for some time, if ever.

More things I thought of this morning about when Diablo was released.

* Bill Clinton was still President
* VHS was not only a viable format, but still the dominant format. People honestly debated if DVDs were worthwhile. http://www.geek.com/news/dvds-threatening-cds-vhs-565521/
* TiVo had only shipped its first units a year earlier. DVRs were not a thing.
* MP3s were just gaining popularity
* Napster was a new thing
* The iPod was a year away from release
* Lord of the Rings was a year from release
* The Phantom Menace was only a year old, the public hadn't yet fully eviscerated it.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on March 14, 2016, 06:52:28 AM
I think I still have my D2 beta installation disc.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 14, 2016, 07:28:19 AM
Yea, you wouldn't shut up about it. Literally everyone around from back then remembers it. We remember it so well your grief title reflects it, and it will likely never change.
That's why you're cunts  :grin: I was just trying to convey how awesome it was to play games on a huge screen.

Not to mention 720p is still terrible definition for such a large screen. Hell, 1080p is awful but 4k isn't the standard and won't be for some time, if ever.
720p wasn't horrible, but UI would take up a lot of real estate. 1080p is pretty perfect, though some games are unplayable due to miniscule text. 4k without a scaling UI sucks.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on March 14, 2016, 07:48:58 AM
That's because the UI is designed by people who sit at a desk close to their 4k Monitors.

If you're like me and don't have the best eyesight then it gets really infuriating that things are always so tiny and that you can't scale UI elements most of the time.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on March 14, 2016, 07:59:20 AM
You guys are talking about UI as if computer applications are the only content displayed on these large devices.

720 is a pretty shit picture compared to 1080 for movies, programming, and just about anything else. 4k is brilliant, but only in certain contexts like nature shows or filming real-world scenarios. A 4k reproduction of most TV and Movies would look awful because the cheapness and shoddiness of sets and props are no longer blurred by the low resolution. (Remastering of Twilight Zone, for example, made a lot of things look terrible.)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on March 15, 2016, 08:30:14 AM
The Warcraft III patch is out.

http://www.pcgamer.com/warcraft-3-rises-again-with-patch-127


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on March 15, 2016, 06:22:35 PM
Well, if you like Paradox and strategy games, this is going to be a busy late spring/summer (from the GDC Paradox livestream) :

Stellaris - out May 9th
Hearts of Iron  IV - out June 6th
----

But that's not all!


Obsidian also announced their new CRPG, called "Tyranny":

http://www.tyrannygame.com/

Looks like it's going to use the same technology and engine (Unity) of PoE.  Personally,  I hope for a less streamlined story and approach to gameplay, compared to their kickstarted title.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on March 15, 2016, 06:54:59 PM
Makes sense they'd reuse the engine they spent a long time and their kickstarter cash on. I mean, it was a pretty good engine.

I wonder if they'll reuse the same combat system/stats/etc or do something different.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 16, 2016, 08:00:33 PM
I remember being pretty irritated that D2 started off with some crap resolution for the era.  480x600?  They fixed it, so there's your HD upgrade.

It's ugly now but I'd be a liar if I said I wasn't going to check it out.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on March 17, 2016, 07:43:49 AM

http://www.tyrannygame.com/


These old man eyes had to do a triple take on that url.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 17, 2016, 08:59:57 AM
 :why_so_serious: :drillf:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on March 18, 2016, 05:31:14 PM
Hulk Hogan is award $115 million in his case against Gawker. This is before punitive damages (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/19/business/media/gawker-hulk-hogan-verdict.html?_r=0)

This is one of those things where we really should be concerned about freedom of the press or whatever but man I just cannot muster a fuck to give.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on March 18, 2016, 05:39:39 PM
Imagine sitting there at a resume writing service website, thinking about what you've been doing with the last decade or so of your life.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on March 18, 2016, 06:21:44 PM
Imagine sitting there at a resume writing service website, thinking about what you've been doing with the last decade or so of your life.

I call those days "weekdays"


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on March 18, 2016, 08:00:51 PM
Imagine sitting there at a resume writing service website, thinking about what you've been doing with the last decade or so of your life.

I call those days "weekdays"

You might have more to write on your resume than "Wrote clickbait articles about videogames".


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 20, 2016, 03:36:19 PM
If Gawker goes out of business I will be so happy. SO HAPPY.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on March 20, 2016, 05:56:11 PM
It's not gonna go under. They saved up money for about this scale of judgment. But they will be a lot more cautious in the future, at any rate--that's why they shifted to "political coverage" even though none of their alleged 'writers' have even the least bit of experience or understanding with politics--because the legal standard for "public figure" is so much less likely to be litigated in "politics".


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on March 20, 2016, 06:17:56 PM
Even if the punitive were an additional $115 mil, they'd appeal it down to tens if not ones of millions.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Brolan on March 21, 2016, 06:45:53 AM
Even if the punitive were an additional $115 mil, they'd appeal it down to tens if not ones of millions.
Yup, we are at least a year or more of appeals court activities before we know the final award.  And even if the final award is made public the media will be bored with it and be working the then current scandals.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on April 03, 2016, 12:37:50 PM
I'll just sneak this in here. There's a new porny game coming from the Huniepop people, Huniecam Studio (http://store.steampowered.com/app/426000/) (NSFW in case you're dense). It's literally coming tomorrow in fact. This time it's a cam girl management sim.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on April 03, 2016, 01:08:01 PM
Didn't realize that was dropping tomorrow, thanks.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Gimfain on April 03, 2016, 01:58:29 PM
I'll just sneak this in here. There's a new porny game coming from the Huniepop people, Huniecam Studio (http://store.steampowered.com/app/426000/) (NSFW in case you're dense). It's literally coming tomorrow in fact. This time it's a cam girl management sim.

The courtesy warning cracked me up.

"The sexual themes in this game are mostly for fun/humor and don't make for particularly great fapping material. "


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on April 03, 2016, 04:24:47 PM
It's not going to be as lewd as Huniepop was; the art style doesn't lend itself to that sort of thing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: brellium on April 04, 2016, 09:41:56 PM
http://www.craveonline.com/entertainment/972903-gamers-flood-baldurs-gate-expansion-negative-reviews-introduces-transsexual-character

um, wow.

Quote
Amber Scott, a writer on the game, responded to these criticisms by saying: "As I've said before (and I won't say much more on this subject other than to get my perspective out there): I'm the writer and creator. I get to make decisions about who I write about and why. I don't like writing about straight/white/cis people all the time. It's not reflective of the real world, it sets up s/w/c as the "normal" baseline from which "other" characters must be added, and it's boring.
"I consciously add as much diversity as I can to my writing and I don't care if people think that's "forced" or fake. I find choosing to write from a straight default just as artificial. I'm happy to be an SJW and I hope to write many Social Justice Games in the future that reach as many different types of people as possible. Everyone should get a chance to see themselves reflected in pop culture."


Read more at http://www.craveonline.com/entertainment/972903-gamers-flood-baldurs-gate-expansion-negative-reviews-introduces-transsexual-character#gYiodyjsSE3KW143.99


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on April 05, 2016, 01:38:28 AM
Wonderfully said and wonderfully done, Amber Scott.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on April 05, 2016, 05:28:02 AM
That 2nd steam review has a valid point. If it's the first thing a character says to you, it's pushing an agenda and hack writing. People don't go around introducing themselves by their sexual identity.

However, as it's presented in the article that doesn't seem to be the case. You have to follow a conversation tree about the character's name, then ask for further clarification. The outrage is a hell of a lot of uncomfortable boys being uncomfortable. No surprise there.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on April 05, 2016, 08:04:27 AM


Quote
Amber Scott, a writer on the game, responded to these criticisms by saying: "As I've said before (and I won't say much more on this subject other than to get my perspective out there): I'm the writer and creator. I get to make decisions about who I write about and why. I don't like writing about straight/white/cis people all the time. It's not reflective of the real world, it sets up s/w/c as the "normal" baseline from which "other" characters must be added, and it's boring.
"I consciously add as much diversity as I can to my writing and I don't care if people think that's "forced" or fake. I find choosing to write from a straight default just as artificial. I'm happy to be an SJW and I hope to write many Social Justice Games in the future that reach as many different types of people as possible. Everyone should get a chance to see themselves reflected in pop culture."



I do take some issue with her second paragraph, though. It takes more than good writing to qualify as an SJW. You also need to be spending a good part of your day surfing around policing the internet and otherwise supporting the cause to qualify as a warrior.

Creative writing with diverse and interesting characters hardly makes the SWJ grade.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on April 05, 2016, 08:29:25 AM
Excuse me for asking but why is having a diverse set of non-playable characters in a game bad?

Those people act as if being a heterosexual white male had been outlawed last week and we're forcing them all to become genderqueer transexual otherkin wearing ultra pink.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MahrinSkel on April 05, 2016, 08:50:09 AM
My main comment is that this is all predicated on around 30 or so bad reviews (there were only 130 Steam reviews *total* for the game, when I checked). This is hardly a cultural crisis, when the 'backlash' we're talking about is a few dozen people trashing a game because they are afraid of sexual ambiguity.

--Dave

EDIT: And when I read the reviews, the first ten say nothing about this 'controversy', and instead are complaining that the game is so buggy that it is unplayable. Had to go down to the 8th before I even saw the writing mentioned (just as a general 'it's bad'), and 11 before it became at all about that particular writer or character.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: penfold on April 05, 2016, 11:21:57 AM
Gather round my fellow travelers and let me tell you the tale of #Baldursgate

1. Ian Miles Chong The Redeemed tweets that Minsc has a line about "Ethics in heroic adventuring"
2. The Eye of Gamergate focuses on Beamdog. The Armies of the Alt Right march forth. Thousands of trolls attack.
3. They cast Identify:Social Justice on the game.
4. It's a hit.
5. They find a shitload of bugs and mods issues, and bad writing too, Amber re-writes Jaheria so she's not a moaning housewife trope, and deslutifies Safira because Sex Is Now Bad™ and a whole bunch of tumblr identities were shoehorned in too.
7. Bad reviews storm the bastions!
8. Beamdogs 10gp Minsc comment turns into a 100,000gp nightmare.
9. Beamdog try and make out its about trans issues and identity politics.
10. It wasn't. It was troll butthurt over Minsc. This entire issue wouldn't have happened if they didn't include that silly little line.


Maybe if devs don't write gamergate/alt-right bait into their game, and writers shoehorn contemporary tumblr into the NPCs then people would just be concentrating on what is a rather acceptable BG1 expansion and sales would be better, but I don't know, perhaps a huge PR firefighting exercise and turning it into another facet of the identity politics war makes more money than sales of the game? I say it probably doesn't. The Beamdog community manager ran to FemFreq and Jezebel, so I guess he's decided what his priorities are.







Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nija on April 05, 2016, 12:37:55 PM
Wonderfully said and wonderfully done, Amber Scott.

Bro, you forgot your green.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on April 05, 2016, 12:49:37 PM
Who's Safira? I don't remember that NPC.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: penfold on April 05, 2016, 01:20:51 PM
Safana spelt wrong.

http://baldursgate.wikia.com/wiki/Safana


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on April 05, 2016, 03:01:53 PM
Wonderfully said and wonderfully done, Amber Scott.

Bro, you forgot your green.

You know very well I'm serious. That's actually why you are baiting me  :pedobear:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: lamaros on April 05, 2016, 03:40:56 PM
I made the mistake of buying BG:EE because of the sale. It's an ugly game with the only changes and additions from the original pretty much best be as far as I have seen.

I'll stick to conventional modding.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nija on April 05, 2016, 04:01:10 PM
You know very well I'm serious. That's actually why you are baiting me  :pedobear:

This explains so much.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on April 05, 2016, 10:39:21 PM
That Minsc line (disclaimer: I have no idea who "Minsc" is) is just so fucking lazy and memetastic.

If you are going to try to make political points in games at least make real ones rather than just crack wise. I mean...an "it's about ethics..." joke? What kind of idiot finds this stuff amusing?

That said, freaking the fuck out about it is also silly.

I say we take all these culture warriors and shoot them into the sun - the world will instantly become a much better place.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on April 06, 2016, 07:15:51 AM
That Minsc line (disclaimer: I have no idea who "Minsc" is) is just so fucking lazy and memetastic.

Minsc is the berserker from the first two games who says "wacky" shit.  He's got a pet "giant miniature space hamster" named Boo and his lines are split 50/50 between talking to his hamster and saying things like     "Butt-kicking for goodness!" and "Jump on my sword while you can, evil. I won't be as gentle!"

So, I mean, it might not be high art, but it's not like they had Aragorn turn to the camera to deliver a five minute criticism of Obamacare or something.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on April 06, 2016, 09:26:33 AM
Demanding well written characters seems awfully arbitrary in that particular case. Most video game writing is utter, utter drivel yet there's somehow never the same blind fervor and urge to point it out when the cast is mainly stereotypical white male bland faces. Gaming is rife with all kinds of stereotypes and story beats and plots that would fail you in a creative writing 101 class and nobody gives a fuck about characterization, plot or background story or if any of the things even make sense.

Unless of course a game introduces a non-traditional character into the mix at which point most of the the hardcore gamers suddenly turn into literary critics.

The Division's shitty writing and tone deaf setting for example turns their entire player base into henchmen of a proto-fascist and authoritarian regime that values order and the restitution of ownership more than the lives of the people stuck in a postapocalyptic shithole yet only a few game critics even mentioned it. God forbid though if a game writer attempts to write a non-cis character because people suddenly act as if this has to be akin to War and Peace to pass muster.

We could talk all day about how writing for games and comics is still creatively stuck in the 1970's and features story beats and stereotypes that would get you laughed out of hollywood and that are most of the time so horribly stereeotypical and accidentally -ist that it's embarrassing really. Especially for a sector that prides itself on being at the forefront of technology. I recently started up Skyward Sword again for example which features a villiain that is so over the top camp and flamboyant that they could have almost put up a sign that said "gay == evil" and be done with it. (which is btw a common theme of japanese fiction)

There's lots and lots of shitty game writing and companies usually get away with it and this makes holding writers to a much higher standard when they attempt something different almost seem disingenous by comparison.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 06, 2016, 11:37:25 AM
My thing about politics in games is that there needs to be a choice to disagree with the writer's politics.

I see this CONSTANTLY in games where you're rebelling against The Man as some hoodie-wearing spray-can-toting hipster piece of shit. You know what, I like wearing a suit and speaking like an adult and I'm a-o-k with The Man. So when I get into a game where my option is to follow the story of trying to fuck over the man, I'm tuned right out.

So I totally get how trans people feel about this kind of thing.  :why_so_serious:

But to be a bit more serious than that last line, if you're going to write in over-the-top tolerance, give the player agency to be a dick, too. Otherwise, go self-publish a novel.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on April 06, 2016, 12:41:28 PM
My thing about politics in games is that there needs to be a choice to disagree with the writer's politics.

Ehhh, I disagree there.  There's always the option to not play the game if you find it obnoxious, but I don't think the author is under any obligations to provide equal or unbiased treatment of every topic.

I know there's a big "are video games art" question lurking around here that I desperately want to avoid rehashing for the billionth time, but a lot of people put together games specifically to advance a viewpoint or present a certain perspective.  A lot of smaller studios especially, there's a certain message they want to present or a theme they want to convey and being able to just opt out of it would defeat the entire point.

Like, look at Spec Ops: The Line.  You play an army guy who gradually over the course of the game does some pretty horrifying stuff.  The game is all about someone who tries to make the best of a bad situation but, because of his approach, every decision he makes that looks like "the right thing" to him ends up causing huge amounts of destruction.  I've seen A BUNCH of people say things like "I don't think that reflects on ME, though, because the game didn't give me a choice not to do it."  But that's the whole point.  The character in the game is doing this stuff because he doesn't think he has a choice, he sees it as the only option he has.  If the developer gave the players a choice and let them choose a good ending where everything turns out well, that undercuts the entire point of the story.  I mean, it's a situation where the players are playing a character who's saying "this terrible thing isn't my fault, I didn't have a choice" and the players are controlling his actions AS HE DOES IT and SAYING THE EXACT SAME THING.  Like, I KNOW you disagree with his politics, the whole point is that you're disagreeing and doing it anyways.

And how far do we take this?  It's pretty hard to write any kind of story devoid of any personal politics.  If I find killing to be morally wrong, does that mean that every video game ever should have a pacifist option?  As a pacifist, do I demand a version of Street Fighter where we use our words to resolve our differences?  If I'm a bigwig in the KKK, can I seriously expect a big multi-billion dollar studio to put out a title that's going to cater to my political views, that's going to include the option for the main character to be a violent racist?  Plus, I think Sid Meier would have an aneurysm trying to write a Civ 6 that doesn't say anything about politics.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: lamaros on April 06, 2016, 04:54:52 PM
Shadowrun Dragonfall had a few moments where the writing and decisions offered to me weren't horrible drek, and I was very surprised.

Game writing, hell even most books, isn't very good. I mostly ignore the crap bits for the other parts that I do enjoy (yes, Peter F. Hamilton is a sexist adolescent in a creepy way).

The issue here is people are responding to a new thing. Once they get used to this extra layer of bad writing they'll filter it out too. Some will just do that while complaining for a bit.

And everything in life is political, implicitly or explicitly. People who talk about "not putting politics" in stuff usually just mean "don't change anything".


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MahrinSkel on April 06, 2016, 05:05:52 PM
Trent Oster does about as well as you can (https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/51161/beamdog-statement-on-siege-of-dragonspear), when you find yourself in the middle of a troll-infested shit-slinging contest. tldr; The Minsc line was waving the red flag in front of the bull, and is going away, Mizhena will be fleshed out into a real character (still trans) instead of a 5-line token.

--Dave


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on April 06, 2016, 07:04:51 PM
My question is if we really needed a Baldur's Gate semi-expansion.

Also the enhanced editions of BG1/2 kinda suck. I tried playing through BG1 and kept running into script bugs that required that I use command-line stuff to try and fix my game so I could continue.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on April 06, 2016, 07:44:39 PM
That's pretty much why I've stayed away from them. Their reputation for bugginess rivals an in-house Obsidian project. Sadly, I can't really stand to play any of the old Infinity engine games anymore.  The graphics, walls-o-text (I've gotten accustomed to voice acting), and inherent clunkiness makes them hard to revisit. I tend to play DA:O for that kind of fix.  I should probably pick up Pillars of Eternity at some point.

Heh, was there any blow back over the trans character in DA:I?  Or was that before we had to get really bothered about anything that made us mildly uncomfortable?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: lamaros on April 07, 2016, 12:13:03 AM
Bg1&2 are still good IMO, the real problem is how much replayabilty do you get from walls of texts and d&d systems when you know them so well already? Not much novelty there.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on April 07, 2016, 04:30:11 AM
My issue with the BG Enhanced Edition is that it still looks like utter and complete shit graphically.  I guess I expected them to use a few more polygons and whatnot.  I mean, it looks terrible.  So I will go through my life never having played BG, apparently.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on April 07, 2016, 05:21:35 AM
 I should probably pick up Pillars of Eternity at some point.

If you're not a fan of walls of text anymore, PoE isn't for you. I find I'm bored of reading all the interactions after a 30-45 minute play session and put it away for a few days.

There's voice acting, sure, but they read lines very slow and ponderously. As if they believe over-dramatic delivery makes up for cliche tropes and amateur-level voices. So most of the time it's far quicker to read than to sit through the painful deliveries.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on April 07, 2016, 08:20:00 AM
Bg1&2 are still good IMO, the real problem is how much replayabilty do you get from walls of texts and d&d systems when you know them so well already? Not much novelty there.

I tried playing the original BG1 and got about 20 hours into it before it just broke me. There were some interesting bits but missing out of QOL improvements like quest markers made it hard enough to play. Then realizing what a harsh mistress the AD&D 2nd edition system was, and how much better many other RPG systems have proven to be than that system over the years made it almost impossible for me to get up the inspiration to re-install it when I had a Windows 7 meltdown and reinstall.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: lamaros on April 07, 2016, 08:35:43 AM
I like the AD&D system in BG1. Spells in BG2 are stupid, but the system otherwise is one of my favourites. Only being truly turn based would make it better. Also I hate quest markers and the other MMORPG stuff that is about these days. It's nice to just tool about and feel a bit free.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on April 07, 2016, 09:02:46 AM
That's pretty much why I've stayed away from them. Their reputation for bugginess rivals an in-house Obsidian project. Sadly, I can't really stand to play any of the old Infinity engine games anymore.  The graphics, walls-o-text (I've gotten accustomed to voice acting), and inherent clunkiness makes them hard to revisit. I tend to play DA:O for that kind of fix.  I should probably pick up Pillars of Eternity at some point.

Heh, was there any blow back over the trans character in DA:I?  Or was that before we had to get really bothered about anything that made us mildly uncomfortable?
I think a lot of people kinda rolled their eyes about the way it was handled but that was in the middle of the whole thing with the lady writer people got super pissed at for writing something about how she wished you could skip combat in games.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on April 07, 2016, 06:55:57 PM
We probably need a DS3 thread soon, copy this over to first post when someone makes it: https://twitter.com/DarkSoulsGame/status/718124482561318912



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on April 08, 2016, 04:43:16 AM
DS 3: Great game but a bit fan-servicey. DS core fanbase: Still mostly shit.

I absolutely hate that you can't throw a brick at the internet without hitting at least a dozen DS 3 streamers or a shitload of threads about why this is either the most amazing thing since the invention of amazing things or proof that satan is real. Sometimes I really wished that the internet would just shut the fuck up and simply enjoy something for a while before completely and utter overanalyzing and debating it to death or regurgitating the same dingleberries of pseudo-wisdom over and over again.

Everything is hyped or snarked to death by people that only regurgitate what they have once read on an internet forum and then you suddenly have a whole subculture of people whose mating call is "get gud" and who communicate entirely via stale memes - before the game is even officially released. If all of the people writing, talking or making videos about Dark Souls actually bought the games then From Software would have a franchise that rivals Call of Duty and would make approximately all of the money. I can't remember that there was ever so much hype about a game series that struggles to sell more than 1.5 million copies and that was largely ignored by most except for a small dedicated core fan base for nearly a decade.

The outspoken hard core fan base loitering on the internet and jumping on anything that even mentions the games in passing is now the biggest detriment to the games and probably has cost From Software a shitload of sales simply by regurgutating the same stale old untruths like the game's allegedly punishing diffculty or their compulsive need to self-affirm their manliness derived from playing a video game. /rant


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: lesion on April 08, 2016, 07:55:37 AM
The internet commentatron matrix is approaching critical white noise level. It's as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in stupid and were preserved indefinitely.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on April 08, 2016, 08:54:44 AM
Do the Souls games not sell more than a million something copies?  Is that for reals?

One day From will sell their souls (heh, pun) and turn this series into something that in no way resembles what it is now.  Until then, I am genetically pre-disposed to have to own and play their games.  Bloodborne is my least favorite of the series, but that's like saying I like Porsche's less than Ferraris because of all the compromises Porsche makes.  It is still way better than most games.  I have no doubt DS3 will be more or less the same, even if they have changed some things here and there.  I'm still going to play the shit out of it, and love/hate every minute of it.

Maybe not a day one purchase, though, and that is only because I still get a lot of mileage out of all the others.  I only every even finished Demon Souls, never really got close with the others.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on April 08, 2016, 09:13:37 AM
Dark Souls Lifetime to date sales are 2.4 million
Artorias of the Abyss expansion is about 2.1m
Dark souls 2 is 1.5
SotfS is 500k
Demons Souls was about 1.8M
Bloodborne is 2+ million

As always take sales numbers with a huge grain of salt


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nija on April 08, 2016, 12:07:01 PM
I love Dark Souls and I don't think I've ever used that phrase. I've never posted on any of their official forums and I doubt I've spoken much in any of the threads. I mostly post here and on rerolled, and that's it. I don't even crack open the SA games threads anymore, and I haven't really for years.

My major complaint in recent FROM SOFTWARE news is that Bloodborne was a huge regression. You could beat almost every single boss by charging forward and moving to one side or another. Taking that tactic and applying to the previous souls games works surprisingly well, but nowhere near as well as in Bloodborne. Also armor is a complete afterthought in that game. Way too simple and rushed out.

I can't wait for DS3. I'll be streaming it (but i'm not a streamer) if you want to check out how a real person plays it. https://www.twitch.tv/nijasan

You can get a laugh at how horrible I am at Dirt Rally, too!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on April 08, 2016, 12:22:50 PM
The D*Souls games are the best thing that happened to games in the XXI century, full stop. Sadly, the first one was the best one, and every game was slightly worse than the previous, but they are still leagues ahead of everything else.

In other useless news, Facepunch (Garry's Mod, Rust) are trying to do their own Minecraft VR game with Chunks. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=68&v=G3A2Qpp-c1g) This is an HTC Vive game only. You craft in giant form, then you go thought your creation in smaller, human size. This is going live on Steam Early Access next week.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on April 16, 2016, 02:00:45 AM
Shin Megami Tensei IV trailer. Sadly, only for the stupid 3DS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8oEjmBtRTA

Quote
The story of Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse is one of human pawns being shuffled across a chessboard by the higher deities. One lone Hunter, the game’s protagonist, meets an early demise and through a pact with a lesser god, is brought back to life in exchange for his pledge of servitude. From there, the protagonist allies with other Hunters in the ruins of post-apocalyptic Tokyo beginning a plot that crosses over with the events of the original Shin Megami Tensei IV.

Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse features:
• The Eternal Struggle Between Gods– The Shin Megami Tensei series, known for exploring the tenuous symbiosis between man and deity , reaches deeper than ever in Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse, as the band of main characters must decide which side of peace or anarchy they are on.
• Partner Up for Success – A new twist on the SMTIV combat formula allows players to bring one of seven partners to battle (in addition to the standard three demons), each with their own unique skills and AI. Plus, partners will fill up a meter that will interrupt the enemy, do massive damage, and give players an extra turn. Given the excruciating difficulty of battles in Shin Megami Tensei, the partner system will allow for new player strategies.
• Demons Aplenty – Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse has a series record 450+ demons to fight, fuse, or recruit to player parties. With demons from a wide selection of cultures and religions to choose from, players will be able to customize their party to their liking.
• Fuse For Affinities – Demon fusion, combining two or more demons to form a more powerful one, is one of the cornerstones of Shin Megami Tensei games, and now demons will have affinities for certain skills, giving players more decisions to make about which skills fusions will inherit.
• Press Turns and Smirking – The Press Turn system returns, which gives players (or enemies!) extra turns for exploiting weaknesses. The Smirk system returns as well, which gives huge offensive and defensive boosts to party members (or enemies) and now unlocks bonuses for certain skills, such as insta-kill attacks.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on April 16, 2016, 08:17:21 AM
It's actually the sequel to SMT IV, which came out almost 3 years ago (also only for 3DS) and is worth buying a 3DS for. Now I wanna find it and finish my NG+ playthrough(s).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on April 17, 2016, 02:54:28 PM
HK project (https://hk-devblog.com) a sold called "cat adventure video game".


(https://hkgame.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/int_hallway_0000_2.gif)



(https://hkgame.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/hk_screen_011.jpg)


Not sure what to say, except I like the idea.  :heart:



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: apocrypha on April 17, 2016, 11:00:07 PM
One problem springs to mind... you're going to spend the entire game looking at a cat's arsehole.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 18, 2016, 06:19:04 AM
Cat owners are familiar with this already. My cat's main nickname is 'Butthole'.

Must-buy, if only for domestic peace.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on April 18, 2016, 08:23:43 AM
Oh yeah, more firings/closures on the videogame website front.

The Escapist closed their Durham office and fired a mess of people a couple weeks back. I don't really follow it so not sure who all is gone but it looks like most of their lineup anymore.

Filefront is completely shutting down.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on April 18, 2016, 08:40:42 AM
The Escapist closed their Durham office and fired a mess of people a couple weeks back. I don't really follow it so not sure who all is gone but it looks like most of their lineup anymore.

This probably should have happened back in, oh, 2008.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on April 18, 2016, 02:18:16 PM
The Escapist should never have been more than that one guy who does those stick figure reviews. Yahtzee?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on April 18, 2016, 02:27:00 PM
Escapist was done the moment Jim Sterling left. No clue why Yahtzee stayed there, he could make more with his own YouTube and twitch channel anyway.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on April 18, 2016, 03:16:06 PM
Jim Sterling sucks IMO. I hadn't paid much attention to him lately and like 90% of his channel is him intentionally playing the shittiest games on Steam and kinda not doing a good job making fun of them. Then he argues online with the weirdos that make them until they sue him for being mean or something.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on April 19, 2016, 09:01:18 AM
If someone tried to sue me for being mean, I'd stab them in the eye. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 19, 2016, 02:17:12 PM
Well, if someone tried to stab me in the eye, I'd sue them for being mean.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 19, 2016, 06:16:31 PM
In a rare move, I preordered a game not coming out until October. I have a pretty strong love for the Mafia franchise, though.

GMG has it for 25% off for a couple days, unfortunately only the base game not the game+season pass.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 19, 2016, 08:01:34 PM
I wondered who the fuck liked those games.  Mystery solved.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 19, 2016, 08:48:08 PM
Don't make me stab you in the eye, Susie.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on April 20, 2016, 04:58:36 AM
Pyre's reveal trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvxfmnrNj2U&feature=youtu.be).  The art looks amazing, but then again that's not surprising considering who is making it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fordel on April 20, 2016, 05:50:53 PM
Pyre's reveal trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvxfmnrNj2U&feature=youtu.be).  The art looks amazing, but then again that's not surprising considering who is making it.

I threw my wallet at the screen and nothing happened :(


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on April 26, 2016, 12:44:54 AM
(http://top-vines.xyz/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/steam-spy-2015-breakdown.jpg)

H1Z1 made 33M just in 2015? Fuck that noise. Unbelievable.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hutch on April 26, 2016, 02:19:49 AM
Wow, Darkest Dungeon had nearly 600k sales in 2015, while it was in Early Access. I wonder what their post-release numbers look like. Not bad for a start-up  :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on April 26, 2016, 03:20:11 AM
Konami threw away a 100+ million dollar franchise (MGS) for Pachinko. 41 Million on steam alone. Not including online revenue or console sales or retail.

Also we'll get a shitload of Fallout games going by those numbers.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on April 26, 2016, 03:22:14 AM
Undertale. Two people splitting the 4M. Probably more, as that only accounts for 2015, and Undertale was released in September.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on April 26, 2016, 07:55:27 AM
CS:GO has 4m sales on the first chart, but is absent from the 2nd chart where it should be in first. Why?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on April 26, 2016, 10:15:13 AM
I think the second chart is games released in 2015. Arma 3 is absent in the second chart for the same reason.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on April 30, 2016, 07:43:24 PM
So I guess Quantum break is a giant clusterfuck.

My friend bought it for the XBO.  He was really enjoying it until he got stuck in one spot of the game, where 15 minutes after the save point the game just doesn't allow him to move (enemies are firing at him, he's invincible, but he can't move or anything).  Frustratingly he resets the game and tries again, 15 minutes later in the same spot same thing happens.  Tries it one more time and again.

Goes to forums, tons of people are bitching about this with no resolution.  A few days ago a Remedy entertainment dev responded saying they can't reproduce this but try the latest patch and maybe that will fix it (it doesn't).

My friend said screw it, went back to gamestop with the forums printed out in hand to start a fight if they refuse to take the game back (since it's obviously opened).  Gets to the store and the gamestop guy doesn't put up a fight saying they've been getting a ton of them returned due to buggyness and issues.  Gave him money back to his CC (not even credit).

That's not even counting all the crap it's been getting about the PC version too.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on May 06, 2016, 10:33:28 AM
Apparently Ryzom just went up on steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/373720/)

Didn't realize that still existed.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on May 06, 2016, 11:24:14 AM
Apparently Ryzom just went up on steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/373720/)

Didn't realize that still existed.

Wow. That is a blast from the past.

And yeah, I was certain that it had been cancelled years ago.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 06, 2016, 12:13:59 PM
lol whaaaaaaaat

Maybe someone finally got the fucking game client to launch.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nebu on May 06, 2016, 12:14:58 PM
lol whaaaaaaaat

Maybe someone finally got the fucking game client to launch.

 :awesome_for_real: 

That comment made my day!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on May 06, 2016, 10:56:23 PM
White Wolf has recently filed a trademark for “Vampire Bloodlines” specifically in relation to video games. (https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/tag/vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines/)

Must not hope... hope is the mind killer...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on May 08, 2016, 03:30:18 PM
Apparently Ryzom just went up on steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/373720/)

Didn't realize that still existed.
holy shit


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on May 08, 2016, 07:28:44 PM
White Wolf has recently filed a trademark for “Vampire Bloodlines” specifically in relation to video games. (https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/tag/vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines/)

Must not hope... hope is the mind killer...
Is White Wolf a separate thing again, or are they still owned by CCP?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Gimfain on May 09, 2016, 03:09:45 AM
White Wolf has recently filed a trademark for “Vampire Bloodlines” specifically in relation to video games. (https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/tag/vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines/)

Must not hope... hope is the mind killer...
Is White Wolf a separate thing again, or are they still owned by CCP?
White wolf is owned by Paragon now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on May 09, 2016, 03:16:01 AM
White Wolf has recently filed a trademark for “Vampire Bloodlines” specifically in relation to video games. (https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/tag/vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines/)

Must not hope... hope is the mind killer...
Is White Wolf a separate thing again, or are they still owned by CCP?
White wolf is owned by Paragon now.

You probably meant Paradox Interactive (https://www.paradoxplaza.com/news/Paradox-White-Wolf-Publishing/)  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on May 14, 2016, 06:59:40 AM
I randomly came across the cancelled Legacy of Kain: Dead Sun (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_of_Kain:_Dead_Sun).

Since it was said it was cancelled due to it not being ready, and supposedly cancelled right after motion capture an casting, I was very surprised to find 32 minutes of gameplay footage (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBN8N2NXfi4&feature=youtu.be) that looks extremely polished and well done.  It didn't seem to have any placeholder art, and if it didn't say it was cancelled in the title I would think I was looking at a completed game.

Also interesting that Phsyonix (the guys that made rocket league) were making the (now also cancelled) multiplayer game around it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on May 17, 2016, 07:19:18 AM
Yeah, someone on GAF posted a huge retrospective on Legacy of Kain a couple years ago, and that was one of the things shown.

As an amusing aside, it turns out that the original Legacy of Kain, one of the shockingly few games Silicon Knights actually released, still had to have a lot of work done on it by Crystal Dynamics to get it finished, because SK was shite at actually getting things done even back then.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 17, 2016, 09:38:00 AM
A genuine mystery at the completion of their two good games.  The other one being Eternal Darkness.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on May 26, 2016, 08:35:23 PM
https://thevoid.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cML814JD09g

VR helmet + haptic chestpiece + laser tag arena = holy shit


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on May 26, 2016, 11:05:53 PM
I need to set something like that up in my basement.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on May 27, 2016, 01:15:26 AM
Are you hoping to give your hostages something to pass the time?  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on May 27, 2016, 04:23:36 PM
Just bought a "New" 3ds  XL (seriously, what the fuck Nintendo) finally deciding to replace my decade old NDS.  

Holy shit the 3d effect makes my eyes hurt....

*Edit* Also fuck Nintendo for not including an AC adapter with a proprietary port.  Got home, started playing, realized I needed to go back out to Gamestop to buy an adapter so I could actually provide power to it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on May 27, 2016, 04:35:55 PM
Holy shit the 3d effect makes my eyes hurt....
You can adjust the depth effect with the slider on the edge of the screen which can help. It also takes some practice to learn the best viewing angle(s) for your eyes. And the new 3DS's 3D effect is better than the original one's (the sweet spot is larger). But yeah it's not something most people can look at for long periods of times. I leave in 2D mode almost all the time myself.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on May 27, 2016, 04:44:31 PM
I play exclusively in 2D; getting the angle perfect is too much work, plus 3D kills the battery.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 27, 2016, 05:40:11 PM
Always 2D.  Games & movies.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on May 27, 2016, 09:06:15 PM
I used the 3D a lot on the 3DS, but I mostly stopped because it kills image quality and frame rate, and I was playing a lot of games in which the 3D didn't matter all that much.

In the end I'd rather play a 2D game than a 3D game that looks more pixelated, basically. It never hurt my eyes though, and on the N3DS the effect is pretty stable.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on May 27, 2016, 10:01:42 PM
I'll turn on the 3D long enough to marvel at how cool it is in most games, then turn it off for that game forever.

It's often pretty, and amazing, if you can line it up just right.  Otherwise, eh.

As for the no charger, yeah, that's really annoying.  But now you can play Xenoblade!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nija on May 28, 2016, 12:05:55 AM
The newest 3DS, which i think is the .. new XL with the right nub stick actually doesn't have a 3d sweet spot anymore.

It uses the front facing camera to figure out where your eyes are and dynamically adjusts the 3d effects based on that!

I couldn't use the 3d effects at all on the previous versions for the reasons mentioned above, but I can actually use 3d all the time with the latest version of the hardware.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 31, 2016, 05:08:47 PM
Goat Simulator patch notes again deliver on my $10 investment.

Quote
Key features

Visit space today or get old waiting for that other space game that you already paid for
Crowdfund a space colony and get other people to pay for it and do all the work!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on May 31, 2016, 06:40:52 PM
Goat Simulator patch notes again deliver on my $10 investment.

Quote
Key features

Visit space today or get old waiting for that other space game that you already paid for
Crowdfund a space colony and get other people to pay for it and do all the work!

 :heart:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on June 06, 2016, 11:56:55 AM
Final Fantasy XII, the only FF game yet to receive a modern-day remaster/remake since it's first release, is getting dat :heart: (https://youtu.be/D2-bWotLKqo)

2017, for the PS4. Unknown is XBone or PC will get to share the glory.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on June 06, 2016, 12:21:11 PM
Hope it hits PC too; I never finished it but if I could fuck around with it on my work laptop I might give it another go.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 06, 2016, 12:41:01 PM
FFXII was the only Final Fantasy I enjoyed since VI, so this is nice to hear.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on June 06, 2016, 12:56:31 PM
Indeed.  Although I do enjoy aspects of X (ugg, the story) and XIII (only takes 40 hours to get past the really bad parts  :awesome_for_real:).  And FFXIV is a MMO, so that doesn't count (even if it does have a fully fleshed out story).

Plus, this has improvements! Whatever they are.

Interesting that this franchise hasn't produced a truly outstanding game in 22 years.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 06, 2016, 01:00:48 PM
I thought XII was outstanding. It was a decade ago. But one game in 22 years is a TERRIBLE TRACK RECORD.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on June 06, 2016, 01:06:11 PM
It's been a while, but I just don't remember it as outstanding. I do remember it being the FF version of Star Wars, which made for a less shitty and more coherent plot than what you're likely to get out of FF nowadays.

Some of the characters were really grating, although I suppose that's expected in any FF since voice acting was introduced.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 06, 2016, 01:06:45 PM
Honestly can't even remember the plot. I just liked the bounty system and actual gameplay enough to call it outstanding.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on June 06, 2016, 02:45:33 PM
From NeoGAF (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=205785393&postcount=177):

Quote
-based on FINAL FANTASY XII INTERNATIONAL ZODIAC JOB SYSTEM
-Background, character model, fonts and all 2D parts are higher resolution
-Movie scenes are higher resolution
-Uses current-gen graphics tech
-7.1 surround sound
-higher quality audio
-Japanese and English voice
-Option between original BGM and newly recorded BGM
-shorter loading time
-auto-save feature
-turbo mode

The higher quality sound, newly recorded music, and the ZODIAC job system ALMOST make me want to get a PS4 for this on day 1 release, in case they don't port it to PC. Seeing as how every FF is on PC now, I think I can bide my time long enough to wait. But it's exciting news nonetheless.

It's been a while, but I just don't remember it as outstanding. I do remember it being the FF version of Star Wars, which made for a less shitty and more coherent plot than what you're likely to get out of FF nowadays.

Some of the characters were really grating, although I suppose that's expected in any FF since voice acting was introduced.

Balthier = best FF male lead by far


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on June 06, 2016, 07:43:33 PM
Turbo mode is pretty crucial for late-game grinding, too.  Love the idea of that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on June 07, 2016, 07:24:57 AM
Persona 5 will release in the US on February 14 2017. No release date for EU announced and according to Atlus "there's nothing to announce regarding an European release"

So SMT IV all over again. Expect an EU release in 2018 if ever.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 07, 2016, 07:37:56 AM
Pffffffssh. Good thing I am moving to the USA before that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 07, 2016, 09:28:38 AM
Watched a few Dead by Daylight streams.

It looks terrible.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on June 07, 2016, 01:08:12 PM
Wife will be excited about FFXII, as am I.

Pffffffssh. Good thing I am moving to the USA before that.

Don't get sick.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on June 07, 2016, 01:43:46 PM
A Sony post on FFXII:
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2016/06/06/final-fantasy-xii-the-zodiac-age-launches-on-ps4-in-2017/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on June 07, 2016, 02:10:13 PM
A Sony post on FFXII:
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2016/06/06/final-fantasy-xii-the-zodiac-age-launches-on-ps4-in-2017/


I'm not seeing "exclusive" in that post. Signs are good we'll get a PC release in due time.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on June 07, 2016, 06:19:30 PM
It'll be as "exclusive" as the X/X-2 HD remake, which means it'll probably stay on PS4/Vita, then get ported to PC after a while.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 16, 2016, 03:46:35 AM
Gollop, the creator of X-Com, goes back to his origins with a new X-Com inspired game. The interesting part? Procedural enemies. Lore says a virus mutate life forms, so the enemies mutate and counter your tactics by mixing and matching genetic code/parts/limbs/tentacles/shells/weapons.

Sounds great to me.

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2016/06/14/phoenix-point-new-xcom-julian-gollop/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on June 16, 2016, 08:43:31 AM
Get a real job, Gollop.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 16, 2016, 09:53:18 AM
Am I the only person that hasn't truly enjoyed a tactics game since Final Fantasy: Tactics?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on June 16, 2016, 10:03:07 AM
I'm confident you are not.  I wasn't really able to get into that DS Fire Emblem for some reason.  I do enjoy Disgaea but it's not the same.

Unrelated, I believe my wife has preordered the new Star Ocean.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 16, 2016, 10:04:41 AM
I loved Disgaea 1, but it wasn't all about the tactics. FF:T was all about the tactics, the story and characters were wretched.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on June 16, 2016, 10:10:24 AM
Am I the only person that hasn't truly enjoyed a tactics game since Final Fantasy: Tactics?

Does Pocket Kingdoms on the N-Gage count?  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 16, 2016, 10:52:34 AM
Fuck me, pocket kingdoms, talk about ahead of its time. Also, wasn't that closer to a JRPG than tactics game?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on June 16, 2016, 11:57:14 AM
I'm going to retreat from this since I prefer the Ivalice political stuff to the other stories, and I enjoyed how it was delivered in FF:T.  That is one reason I like FFXII so much.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on June 16, 2016, 12:40:53 PM
Am I the only person that hasn't truly enjoyed a tactics game since Final Fantasy: Tactics?

Disgaea series?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 16, 2016, 12:56:02 PM
Am I the only person that hasn't truly enjoyed a tactics game since Final Fantasy: Tactics?

Disgaea series?
As I said, didn't play it simply for the tactics. It's why I've missed the last 3. I played it because of the world and the weird horseshit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on June 16, 2016, 01:04:20 PM
Ahh missed that.  Tiny posts.  :awesome_for_real:

I didn't really like FF:T.  I just could never get into it on any platform.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Druzil on June 16, 2016, 01:34:14 PM
I also didn't like FF:T or any of the DS spin offs (Advance/A2 or w/e).   I did like Vandal Hearts on PlayStation and Mystaria on Saturn.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on June 16, 2016, 02:05:47 PM
Fuck me, pocket kingdoms, talk about ahead of its time. Also, wasn't that closer to a JRPG than tactics game?

Honestly don't know, as I never played FF:T. I did like PK though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 16, 2016, 02:13:33 PM
Pocket Kingdoms was upsettingly ahead of itself though. I mean, it was technically a social RPG that was ripe for RMT had the idea existed as it does. It was all these shitty iOS games before iOS was even a thing. Amazing. Shame no one remembers it. Or bought it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on June 16, 2016, 02:45:08 PM
It didn't help that it was on a mediocre phone shaped like a fucking taco which somehow had a number of good games.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 16, 2016, 02:54:58 PM
I think I might start up The Schild Chronicles again, playing through my entire steam library, A to Z, skipping multiplayer specific weirdness (like board games). Hmmmm.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 16, 2016, 04:45:23 PM
Last Gollop game was very good.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on June 16, 2016, 06:19:30 PM
SMT: Devil Survivor was a pretty good tactics game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Strazos on June 16, 2016, 10:00:50 PM
I think I might start up The Schild Chronicles again, playing through my entire steam library, A to Z, skipping multiplayer specific weirdness (like board games). Hmmmm.

OMG gaming content on F13? On the front page? No way! :grin:

Not that I tend to write about it, but I'm about to start transitioning to my next assignment for a year. I plan to do some serious damage to my gaming backlog between verification trips, when I will allegedly have a lot of time on my hands. Heck, maybe I will do some writing anyway, just to pass the time.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Teleku on June 17, 2016, 02:21:37 AM
Am I the only person that hasn't truly enjoyed a tactics game since Final Fantasy: Tactics?
I'm with you.  I loved FFT.  Other than the new X-com games (which are fantastic), I haven't played anything that's come close since.
I loved Disgaea 1, but it wasn't all about the tactics. FF:T was all about the tactics, the story and characters were wretched.
I thought FF:T probably had one of the best plots on any video game I've played (damning with faintest praise, I know).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on June 17, 2016, 04:23:28 AM
I think I might start up The Schild Chronicles again, playing through my entire steam library, A to Z, skipping multiplayer specific weirdness (like board games). Hmmmm.

OMG gaming content on F13? On the front page? No way! :grin:

Not that I tend to write about it, but I'm about to start transitioning to my next assignment for a year. I plan to do some serious damage to my gaming backlog between verification trips, when I will allegedly have a lot of time on my hands. Heck, maybe I will do some writing anyway, just to pass the time.

The original Schild Chronicles ten years ago lasted less then two weeks, so we'll see.

On my end I've barely touched games this year (mostly just been Hex, Dark Souls 3, and Rocksmith). That's partly because I decided to put a heavy focus on movies this year which I largely discuss elsewhere but I'm up to 298 movies for the year so far. Planning on building a new PC this year by August hopefully though which would be my first new one in probably around six years.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on June 17, 2016, 07:29:20 AM
I tried that whole play through the steam library thing a while back. It gets old quick.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on June 17, 2016, 07:39:59 AM
When you start buying bundles, you start to accumulate a lot of utter shit real quick.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on June 17, 2016, 09:05:02 AM
I'm almost tempted to stream some of the steamier piles of crap in the library. I've got some real steamers in there from developer bundles.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Teleku on June 17, 2016, 09:32:23 AM
Yeah, I have 586 games accumulated currently.  So many developer sale bundles (which they don't seem to do anymore), along with my inability to not buy anything on sale for a buck or two if it looks even slightly interesting.  I've played a fraction of them.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 17, 2016, 10:06:45 AM
I didn't say I'd FINISH any of the games. I've been playing Abyss Odyssey. What a weird fucking game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 17, 2016, 10:08:41 AM
I think I might start up The Schild Chronicles again, playing through my entire steam library, A to Z, skipping multiplayer specific weirdness (like board games). Hmmmm.

OMG gaming content on F13? On the front page? No way! :grin:

Not that I tend to write about it, but I'm about to start transitioning to my next assignment for a year. I plan to do some serious damage to my gaming backlog between verification trips, when I will allegedly have a lot of time on my hands. Heck, maybe I will do some writing anyway, just to pass the time.

The original Schild Chronicles ten years ago lasted less then two weeks, so we'll see.

I was drunk the entire time I lived in Arizona for the most part. Also, It was only intended to last a month, and I ended up getting into a game I didn't want to walk away from after a day (Atelier Iris). I couldn't have forseen that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on June 17, 2016, 10:31:35 AM
I've always been tempted to do something akin to the CRPG addict (http://crpgaddict.blogspot.it/), but also with a lot of 1980s ATARI ST games I couldn't simply figure out how to play at the time (I'm looking at you "Black Lamp", "Theme park mystery", "Chrono Quest" and many others).  :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on June 17, 2016, 11:27:20 AM
My first computer as a kid was an Atari ST and about a decade ago I fired up the Steem emulator (which I assume is still being maintained) and played Sundog again.  It actually holds up pretty well, although if you've played FTL you aren't missing that much.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on June 20, 2016, 10:39:54 AM
Am I the only person that hasn't truly enjoyed a tactics game since Final Fantasy: Tactics?

Nope, I can't play them anymore.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on June 20, 2016, 06:37:23 PM
No love for Fire Emblem?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 20, 2016, 08:12:20 PM
Not really. It was pretty fucking mundane.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Zetor on June 21, 2016, 04:19:49 AM
The genre has been getting a revival (sorta) on PC. Have you played Invisible Inc, f'rex?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 21, 2016, 07:17:27 PM
Capcom released Umbrella Corps today. I would never have known if I wasn't trolling twitch. Didn't even know it was in development. Barely even know what it is because this streamer sucks.

The fuck is Capcom doing?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on June 21, 2016, 07:28:56 PM
That looks terrible.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 21, 2016, 07:31:48 PM
The camera angle is really, really strange. However, watching some MP, it looks fast as fuck which is fun.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on June 22, 2016, 03:39:04 PM
I'm pretty anti-Kickstarter, but this is very very tempting (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNv_aC7H8pY)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Tebonas on June 23, 2016, 03:40:34 AM
Ah Sundog, that brings back memories! The naivety of youth and the thought that all games from then on will be simulated worlds with endless possibilites  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on June 23, 2016, 05:40:35 PM
Blizzard's network was apparently breached (http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/securityupdate.html)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 23, 2016, 06:21:05 PM
Great.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MahrinSkel on June 23, 2016, 07:31:29 PM
Blizzard's network was apparently breached (http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/securityupdate.html)
4 years ago?

--Dave


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 23, 2016, 07:43:47 PM
lol @ the 2012 date hahahaha

how did I miss that


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on June 24, 2016, 07:45:29 AM
hooray


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on June 24, 2016, 07:59:32 AM
Wow, I missed that too, my bad.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 11, 2016, 08:14:13 PM
https://www.inverse.com/article/18106-shadow-of-mordor-reviews-weren-t-honest-says-ftc

PewDiePie or whatever is a shill? What are the odds. Also, what a terrible game to choose to do this on. I wonder who blew the whistle since the game was genuinely good.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 11, 2016, 08:16:55 PM
On that note, I went to PewDiePie's twitter to see what the fuck he was about since all I knew about him was descriptions

I've legit never seen a less useful popular person. He seems to be worse than the Kardashians.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samprimary on July 11, 2016, 10:10:44 PM
i knew nothing about pewdiepie until i watched a microdrama unfold over that he parked in front of someone's driveway, got towed, and then called the owner of the driveway a slut who was sad because he apparently couldn't get his fatass car out of the driveway (if pewdiepie parks him in)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 11, 2016, 10:30:27 PM
What a knob.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on July 12, 2016, 08:30:35 AM
He is known to middleschoolers.  The nerd crowd agrees that he is a useless knob.

They seem to be into Game Grumps these days.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on July 12, 2016, 09:18:10 AM
Someone is trying to get me involved in Battlefleet Gothic Armada.  Yes/No ?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on July 12, 2016, 09:59:52 AM
Two buddies of mine bought it. One likes it, one gave up on it pretty early into the single-player campaign. The one who gave up didn't like the heavily scripted nature of some of the missions, especially with the lack of ability to completely pause the game and give orders. You can pause, but it's really more like a slow down time instead of full pause and some of those fleets move too fast for that to be a thinking man's game. Once he told me that, I decided not to buy it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on July 12, 2016, 12:23:30 PM
Man, I had enough trouble with the introduction of RTS in the first place and I was pretty fucking young then.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samprimary on July 13, 2016, 02:31:29 PM
oh, i guess i don't get to hate pewdiepie about this specifically

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JqJDRkKlt8&feature=youtu.be


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on July 13, 2016, 03:29:51 PM
I can still just hate him because he's annoying, right?  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 13, 2016, 03:33:14 PM
That's the only reason I hate him. He's super fucking annoying.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MahrinSkel on July 13, 2016, 04:47:00 PM
That's why they like him, grandpa. Annoying your elders is 90% of all youth culture, the internet has just moved the brackets down. Anybody old enough to drive is 'old' now.

--Dave


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on July 13, 2016, 06:17:46 PM
I have no problem being the old fuck on the digital porch telling these little kids to get the fuck off my virtual lawn.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 14, 2016, 09:36:45 AM
I have no problem being the old fuck on the digital porch telling these little kids to get the fuck off my virtual lawn.
I revel in it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on July 14, 2016, 10:31:21 AM
He is known to middleschoolers.  The nerd crowd agrees that he is a useless knob.

They seem to be into Game Grumps these days.

Man, I hate those guys for their intro alone. My daughter watches them all the time on the PS4 so I've got the damn thing burned into my memory.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on July 14, 2016, 10:41:47 AM
I've managed to only have to sit through one video where they are playing a tabletop game, and a couple odd bits and clips.

My wife is going PokeDriving this afternoon with 3 12-year-olds.  So, she isn't a soccer mom but maybe a pokemom.  Huhuhuhuh.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 14, 2016, 11:10:58 AM
I keep pronouncing it 'poke' (not 'pokee') and giggling because it's a sex joke. Like, mentally replace 'poke' with 'fuck'.

Going to hit up a couple fuckstops on my way to the fuckgym.

I'm 8.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on July 14, 2016, 12:03:38 PM
I've broken my eyes again from rolling them at you.   :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on July 14, 2016, 01:51:07 PM
I keep pronouncing it 'poke' (not 'pokee') and giggling because it's a sex joke. Like, mentally replace 'poke' with 'fuck'.

Going to hit up a couple fuckstops on my way to the fuckgym.

I'm 8.
It's actually pronounced Poke-ay-mon.
(http://i.imgur.com/DJTYWI9.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on July 14, 2016, 08:18:41 PM
One of the main Youtuber type people who called WB out on this shit was TotalBiscuit of all people.

Also again, weird game to shill for. Shadow of Mordor was actually really good and I enjoyed it a lot.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on July 14, 2016, 09:40:31 PM
Nintendo to release a NES, preloaded with 30 games.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/07/surprise-nintendos-next-console-is-the-nes/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on July 15, 2016, 09:32:02 AM
And apparently it will not allow you to add to those 30 games ever. What the fuck is the point of that?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on July 15, 2016, 10:02:01 AM
Especially when a thumb drive of essentially any size can get you the entire library of every single console released up until the PSX, and isn't particularly hard to get onto a TV.

Edit: That said, if we didn't live in a world where accurate emulation of consoles made before 2000 was completely trivial, the list of titles included with the thing is actually pretty decent. It's missing the best Mega Man title (III) and doesn't have a Dragon Warrior, but it's not bad.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ezrast on July 15, 2016, 11:13:07 AM
Someone's going to figure out how to use that thumb drive to replace the console's ROM within, like, a week.

Although these days I guess it would be easier to just gut the whole thing and stick a Raspberry Pi in there.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 15, 2016, 11:43:34 AM
"Nintendo to release a NES case for Pi"


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on July 15, 2016, 11:55:08 AM
You all assume far too much technical knowledge and "give enough of a fuck to do it" motivation on the part of the public.  $50 to relive your youth with no additional effort on the part of the purchaser. They're going to sell like hotcakes.

Atari did the same thing several years ago and THOSE sold like hotcakes. You can run Atari games on your goddamn mouse's processor if you really wanted to. That's the thing though. Nobody want to put in the effort, we only want the product.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 15, 2016, 01:34:15 PM
Now we got fukkin robot mice!?

(http://team-stealth.com/uploads/gallery/album_4/med_gallery_1_4_1015066.png)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on July 15, 2016, 06:32:24 PM
It's really maddening to me to see Square and Konami licensing stuff like Final Fantasy and Castlevania out to this shit when we STILL don't have a legitimate way to get them on the PC, where emulation is so easy people are doing it for free as a hobby.  I kind of assumed Nintendo was doing this to it's first party titles on purpose to keep people buying DSes or whatever, but like 80% of their catalog isn't available there either, last I checked.  For that matter, I'm not sure how the margins on manufacturing and distributing this $50 tchotchke are going to be that much more than just tossing an emulator on Steam for like $15 that they can sell for as long as Windows exists.

Like, I don't WANT to pirate your stuff, guys, but I am not hunting down a thirty year old copy of Battletoads plus system plus cables and adapters and then going through the effort of hooking all that shit up just to relive some nostalgia.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MahrinSkel on July 15, 2016, 09:10:00 PM
One of the main Youtuber type people who called WB out on this shit was TotalBiscuit of all people.

Also again, weird game to shill for. Shadow of Mordor was actually really good and I enjoyed it a lot.
I actually just started playing it (Steam sale), and it is awesome. But with budgets hitting 6 9 figures routinely, you can't expect marketing to leave this stuff up to chance, they'll do any and every thing they think they can get away with.

--Dave

EDIT: My innumeracy has dyslexia


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 22, 2016, 06:53:01 AM
Has nobody mentioned the Tell Tale Batman game that's coming out soon? Seems like if they stick to the detective side it could be really nice.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on July 22, 2016, 11:12:40 AM
Or QTE hell.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on July 23, 2016, 10:00:52 PM
So one of the CS Go gambling sites that had to shut down apparently took all the money / skins people had in their accounts and made off with them, then changed their web page to be a link with instructions on what to do to recover them that leads to a YTMND-style page that plays the "How could this happen to me" song with some crying face emoticons.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 25, 2016, 01:55:15 AM
New Kojima Productions logo movie. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atqBhyqq6xE)

Subtle. :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 25, 2016, 02:39:09 AM
So one of the CS Go gambling sites that had to shut down apparently took all the money / skins people had in their accounts and made off with them, then changed their web page to be a link with instructions on what to do to recover them that leads to a YTMND-style page that plays the "How could this happen to me" song with some crying face emoticons.

We haven't talked about this before, but I feel like it's time. Or if anything, it's time that someone enlightens me about what the hell is going on there.

My problem: some skins are bought and sold for more than $1000. What the hell, and why? Sure, I can answer myself about humans being fucking idiots and crazy and all that, but this seriously confused me, maybe because it's about one of the most popular games in existence and yet it isn't discussed or known too much. Like, everyone has heard about it but so many don't really have a clear idea of how big this is. I remember when people were (rightfully) outraged by the MechWarrior $500 gold skins, and in the meantime people are buying and selling skins more expensive than Star Citizen's ships. I don't have a point and I am not bashing on anyone (certainly not Valve as they are not the ones making the prices if I got this right), but this skin (http://csgo.steamanalyst.com/id/117351/), for example, is traded for around $1500. Or this one-of-a-kind knife (http://read.navi-gaming.com/en/team_news/Rarest_and_expensive_knives), reportedly sold for $23000. Why, why, why? Why humans, why?

We have often discussed stories about people dumping money into Star Citizen. I am curious, do you know anyone who bought some expensive CS:GO skin? I want to talk to them.


EDIT: Found this video answering some of my questions. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8IGgXlyaS0)

EDIT 2: Building the Content that Drives the Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Economy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd_QeY9uATA), by the Valve employee responsible for the skins.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: apocrypha on July 25, 2016, 03:31:50 AM
humans being fucking idiots and crazy and all that

Watching that video that was the only conclusion I could come up with. Young humans particularly.

"My M4 looks nicer than yours so I'm cooler than you" and "This kid wants something I have and he can't have it, so I feel better about myself". Sad, damaged people. Counterstrike was right there at the dawn of mass internet gaming and look what it's become. Tawdry, tainted, exploitative.

There's a Karl Marx quote, that I can't remember exactly and my Google-fu is failing me, but it says something like "Every human endeavour, whether for work or recreation, becomes corrupted and twisted by capitalists in order to extract profit from it somehow". Every hobby and pastime can become about money somehow, about how to extract as much of it as possible from rubes, CS:GO and Star Citizen being the thin end of that wedge at the moment.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on July 25, 2016, 05:34:29 AM
About a year or two ago, one of my boys lucked out a little and got a semi-rare knife drop, which he managed to sell for something like 175 dollars on Steam.  He then proceeded (against my urging to the contrary) to it blow every last dollar on more of these fuckstupid crates full of bullshit, and got absolutely nothing of value out of it.  The whole thing was mind blowing to me, and that was relatively small value shit.  I am so glad none of them are playing CS:GO anymore, what a goddamned nightmare that period was.  It is kind of like scratch tickets for kids, but it is even worse because of the pressure of having cool stuff to show off.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on July 25, 2016, 05:43:09 AM
If it exists, someone will collect it. If it's rare more people will want it, just to possess it. Humans are kind of broken that way from a modern society standpoint, but it's deep-rooted behavior that's not going anywhere. Best defense you have is to be aware of it and teach kids about it.

With regard to the actual gambling sites, they've been going on for quite some time. Valve only released the C&D a few weeks ago, which makes me think someone alerted the government after the brew-up about the guy pimping his site on his very-popular YouTube channel. At that point they had to do something, or else be complicit.

The fact they let it go on for so long, AND that they provide such idiot 'rarity' mechanics proves what bad actors Valve are in general. I get that they're loved but they're a pretty terrible company in the way most tech companies always have been.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: apocrypha on July 25, 2016, 06:47:51 AM
The fact they let it go on for so long, AND that they provide such idiot 'rarity' mechanics proves what bad actors Valve are in general. I get that they're loved but they're a pretty terrible company in the way most tech companies always have been.

See this is the thing that confuses me the most about it all (and other issues). As you say, Valve are a terrible company. They regularly turn a blind eye to questionably legal practices that revolve around their business - the huge credit card chargeback fraud being another example. They make wild promises and never deliver on them, eg. 'We will improve our customer support!', what 2 years ago now and silence since then. Paid mods, Steam Machines, Half Life 3, Greenlight, their history is littered with failure and bullshit, and yet Gabe Newell is revered like some kind of bloated, glistening god.

People love themselves some corporate hero worship I suppose. It's like a shitty, fatter Steve Jobs kind of deal.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 25, 2016, 08:25:06 AM
I don't get the Gabefan stuff, but honestly Steam is the best thing to happen to PC gaming. So I give them a break on the other nonsense, most of which doesn't affect me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on July 25, 2016, 08:39:10 AM
Quote
It is kind of like scratch tickets for kids, but it is even worse because of the pressure of having cool stuff to show off.

Japan passed regulation of video games that use gacha mechanics. It will probably come to the US at some point.

Tons of games now either have a gambling mechanic worked into their core gameplay or as a separate reward layer on top. Not just a randomness mechanic, but a gambling mechanic that encourages real money spending.

In Valve's case they also provide APIs and such to make trading and turning items back into real money fairly easy, which is why where are so many CS Go betting sites. And Valve knows exactly what it is doing - they have smart people who fully understand the consequences of their actions.

Twitch and esports are the new hotness, but these are also super shady. A lot of esports teams are sponsored by shady people, team up with shady advertisers. Big streamers support gambling sites, grey market key resellers, bullshit ping-improving software, totally unregulated paid fantasy sports sites, etc.

When I look at big mobile game conferences they are like 30% gaming and 70% gambling oriented, and the language they use has little do with with traditional game making. It's all about identifying whales, developing optimally addictive reward schedules, etc.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 25, 2016, 08:44:46 AM
That's the thing about Steam and Gabe Newell: 99% of the things Valve is doing wrong do not affect 99% of Steam users. Hell, they don't even know about it. Steam is a product that brings a lot of joy and very little problems. To the vast majority, Gabe is a great man because his creation is all they wanted and needed. Apple much? Not really as this is a product that did not exist before and has no valid alternative at the moment so the appreciation is not mystical, it is based on facts.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MahrinSkel on July 25, 2016, 09:48:38 AM
There are a lot of small game companies that wouldn't exist or survive without Steam, which translates into a lot of well-regarded and active members of the video game business that don't want to see Valve in general or Gabe in particular taking any hits.

--Dave


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on July 25, 2016, 11:16:10 AM
That's the thing about Steam and Gabe Newell: 99% of the things Valve is doing wrong do not affect 99% of Steam users. Hell, they don't even know about it. Steam is a product that brings a lot of joy and very little problems. To the vast majority, Gabe is a great man because his creation is all they wanted and needed. Apple much? Not really as this is a product that did not exist before and has no valid alternative at the moment so the appreciation is not mystical, it is based on facts.
That looks like English but I have no idea what you just said.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 25, 2016, 11:22:14 AM
I don't know what's happening here, but Steam is the most important thing to happen to gaming besides graphics companies deciding "drivers might be important" at some point in the early 2000s.

Gabe is a fucking mess and so is Valve. But Steam is excellent.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on July 25, 2016, 11:45:08 AM
Nobody's harping on Steam. The sentiment of ire was aimed directly at Valve as a company.. then Falc felt it was about Steam, somehow.

IDK. Crazy town.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 25, 2016, 12:02:24 PM
Not really. Probably not in my best English, but if you dare to read my post again you'll see that I used Steam to explain why Gabe (and Valve) is liked by the masses. And that was a reply to Apocrypha's and Sky's messages a few posts above mine.

People love themselves some corporate hero worship I suppose. It's like a shitty, fatter Steve Jobs kind of deal.

I don't get the Gabefan stuff



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rishathra on July 25, 2016, 01:55:13 PM
That's the thing about Steam and Gabe Newell: 99% of the things Valve is doing wrong do not affect 99% of Steam users. Hell, they don't even know about it. Steam is a product that brings a lot of joy and very little problems. To the vast majority, Gabe is a great man because his creation is all they wanted and needed. Apple much? Not really as this is a product that did not exist before and has no valid alternative at the moment so the appreciation is not mystical, it is based on facts.
That looks like English but I have no idea what you just said.


Thanks for the update to my sig, Trippy.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 25, 2016, 08:17:13 PM
http://marvel.com/news/video_games/26503/sdcc_2016_marvel_ultimate_alliance

Re-releasing MUA 1&2 for PS4/XBone/PC. Possibility of MUA 3 hinted.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: lamaros on July 26, 2016, 09:19:08 PM
Valve only shut it down because they got sued. It was a sad indictment on them and on a lot of people involved in "professional" CS:GO.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on July 27, 2016, 05:11:48 AM
As I suspected. It wasn't them being made aware it was a "shit we need to protect ourselves" move.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on July 27, 2016, 04:22:01 PM
I dunno, it seems like kind of a tough position for Valve.  If they run around and shut everyone down preemptively, they're the Big Evil Corporation pissing all over their own customers who aren't even doing anything wrong.  If they wait, they're the Big Evil Corporation who doesn't care that their customers are being taken advantage of until the lawyers get involved.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: lamaros on July 27, 2016, 04:37:28 PM
I dunno, it seems like kind of a tough position for Valve.  If they run around and shut everyone down preemptively, they're the Big Evil Corporation pissing all over their own customers who aren't even doing anything wrong.  If they wait, they're the Big Evil Corporation who doesn't care that their customers are being taken advantage of until the lawyers get involved.

Because shutting down the ability of illegal gambling sites promoting to children to trade skins via steam would be wrong, right?

Fuck that, it was a moral disgrace, illegal, and they should be deeply embarrassed they facilitated it and didn't step up to do the right thing until someone threatened to take them to court over it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on July 27, 2016, 04:50:12 PM
Because shutting down the ability of illegal gambling sites promoting to children to trade skins via steam would be wrong, right?

Fuck that, it was a moral disgrace, illegal, and they should be deeply embarrassed they facilitated it and didn't step up to do the right thing until someone threatened to take them to court over it.

I don't know enough to speak about morality or legality here.  But I am pretty sure that if they'd shut these sites down three months ago, there'd be no end of wailing from the people who DID use them about how Valve was just throwing it's weight around for no reason and now their fun hobby has been ruined by greedy corporate control freaks.  Or something.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on July 27, 2016, 06:36:26 PM
They are in complete control of the BS gambling mechanics that allow the sites to run in the first place. They are the primary offender and enabler.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: lamaros on July 27, 2016, 08:16:09 PM
They are in complete control of the BS gambling mechanics that allow the sites to run in the first place. They are the primary offender and enabler.

That's not really true.

The Valve machanics are lame and designed to prey upon people in the same way that some microtransaction games are, but this issue of third party skin trading websites that traded those skins via offering betting markets on the outcome of pro and semi-pro games, completely unregulated, and then went further to allow straight up roulette gambling of skins on their dodgy as fuck websites? That's the illegal and morally bankrupt shit.

Not shutting any of that stuff down, which was in their power, years ago is where Valve really did the wrong thing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on July 28, 2016, 08:42:25 AM
Has anyone messed about with the Elder Scrolls: Legends game?  Any good?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 30, 2016, 12:59:53 PM
So. Perhaps unsurprisingly, Activision pooped out bad ports of MUA 1/2. Creative Director at Marvel not happy. This should be an interesting litmus test of Marvel's resolve to put out quality games. Can they strong-arm Activision into unshitting these ports?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 30, 2016, 10:18:41 PM
I... don't remember any good Marvel games.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on July 30, 2016, 11:16:42 PM
Well the Capcom Marvel Street Fighter-based games were fun. And the console Marvel ARPGs Raven did which included MUA 1 (but not 2) were decent.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on July 31, 2016, 12:07:11 AM
MUA 2 was bad. 1 was decent. There were good X-Men games way way back (original XBox I think) and there was at least one good Spider-Man game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 31, 2016, 01:47:28 AM
So they're batting 1%: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_based_on_Marvel_Comics

 :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 31, 2016, 01:20:32 PM
MUA 2 was bad. 1 was decent. There were good X-Men games way way back (original XBox I think) and there was at least one good Spider-Man game.
I liked MUA 1, but my jam was those X-Men Legends games. Those were pretty awesome.

People seem to like the diablo one, and the current mobile one has better combat than Galaxy of Heroes imo (but is also stingier with rewards, GoH feeds the reward center better).

But yeah. That's why I'm hopeful Disney wants to be serious about Marvel games now. Not that Disney is known for quality gaming (Kingdom Hearts?).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 31, 2016, 02:48:51 PM
Kingdom Hearts had absolutely nothing to do with Disney. 100% Squaresoft.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on August 17, 2016, 03:57:48 PM
MEANWHILE, AT KONAMI:

Exec 1: Holy shit guys, I just woke up from my three year cocaine binge and found out that all our squintillion dollar IPs are garbage now.  Silent Hill was cancelled or something, and I guess we managed to piss off the fanbase to unparalleled levels?  Castlevania has been basically doing nothing since the Game Boy Advance?  And Metal Gear Solid is like, finished, and we're in this really petty pissing contest with the guy who used to make us billions of dollars?  We need to win back the fanbase and show everyone that we can do a Metal Gear game without Kojima!  Suggestions?

Exec 2: Well, the ideal thing would be to do "Metal Gear, but better" and refine the issues that people complained about in previous games to show that we really understand the franchise and avoid alienating the few fans we have left.

Exec 1:  Yeah, I like that idea, but how about instead let's do the opposite and make the next game set in an alternate universe so we can make it a four player zombie survival shooter.  THERE IS NO WAY THIS CAN GO WRONG.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3hjRKGrC40


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on August 17, 2016, 05:49:30 PM
Konami doesn't give a fuck, they're basically in the pachinko business now. I'm sure this is something they're just throwing together because it's easier than firing every game developer they still have on staff.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 17, 2016, 05:56:59 PM
the fuck did I just watch


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sir T on August 18, 2016, 06:26:04 AM
I'm horrified. Quiet is wearing clothes.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on August 18, 2016, 09:30:16 AM
Why do all the zombies have glowing dongs on their heads?  :uhrr:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 18, 2016, 12:08:36 PM
Castlevania HD was pretty great.  Somehow.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on August 18, 2016, 02:52:06 PM
Why do all the zombies have glowing dongs on their heads?  :uhrr:

Are you sure you're not confusing them with Teletubbies? 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on August 18, 2016, 02:59:17 PM
Maybe these are the updated grimdark Teletubbies.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: apocrypha on August 18, 2016, 11:14:43 PM
Emo toddler niche market just waiting to be milked.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rattran on August 19, 2016, 06:30:58 AM
Do not want.

(https://m.popkey.co/5c10ed/mzJJk.gif)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sir T on August 19, 2016, 08:25:29 AM
Why do all the zombies have glowing dongs on their heads?  :uhrr:

I think its supposed to be a crystal that has burnt away most of their heads and is now controlling their bodies.

I remember back when headcrabs were cool...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 20, 2016, 10:45:59 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/btRvkH8.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 20, 2016, 12:32:08 PM
heh


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: shiznitz on August 22, 2016, 10:02:29 AM
the fuck did I just watch

The ad for Mafia III that I was forced to watch first was much better.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on August 22, 2016, 11:39:15 AM
Really looking forward to Mafia 3. But I think I'm the only person who loved the first game and maybe the only who loved the second.

I like how the franchise sits on the spectrum of Mafia -- GTA -- Saint's Row. Each has their own merits and are awesome at what they do.

I know I've got to be the only person that likes how you have to obey street laws, stop at lights, etc. It doesn't bug me that you don't in GTA, but it does seem weird to blow past a cop car at 100mph through a red light and he doesn't blink an eye. And to obey the laws with the old 20s cars... awesome!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Strazos on August 22, 2016, 02:53:06 PM
No, I actually liked that as well. The few times I've tried to drive "correctly" in GTA were just way more trouble than it's worth.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 29, 2016, 08:19:54 AM
I thought Direct2Drive was dead but they want me to reset my password.  So, I can download Fallen Earth and Deadspace!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on August 31, 2016, 01:55:37 AM
Battlefield 1 open beta starts today. You need Origin (  :ye_gods: ). Which sucks because I tried the game and it is awesome.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nebu on August 31, 2016, 05:29:23 AM
Battlefield 1 open beta starts today. You need Origin (  :ye_gods: ). Which sucks because I tried the game and it is awesome.

It's a WWI "Looking" game that plays like a WWII shooter.  Disappointed.

If you want a WWI shooter, I recommend Verdun.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on August 31, 2016, 06:03:44 AM
Verdun is great. And you9r point is valid. Still, pretty wonderful experience so far. We'll see if it holds.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on August 31, 2016, 07:44:58 AM
I have to say that it feels just like any other BF game and with slight reskinning you couldn't even tell that it's supposed to be WW1.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on August 31, 2016, 07:55:41 AM
I have to say that it feels just like any other BF game and with slight reskinning you couldn't even tell that it's supposed to be WW1.

This. I tried the closed alpha and that was the entirety of my response. It plays WAY too fast, with WAY too many automatic weapons to feel like WWI. It feels like a really lazy reskinning of the BF4 engine which it essentially is.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on August 31, 2016, 08:38:26 AM
Maybe you are right. I couldn't get into BF4 at all. Not even 3 actually.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on August 31, 2016, 08:58:48 AM
EVE Online's going F2P. You can still sub and play EVE like it's always been played. F2Pers can train/run T1 frigates, cruisers, and destroyers of their PC faction only.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nebu on August 31, 2016, 09:17:26 AM
This. I tried the closed alpha and that was the entirety of my response. It plays WAY too fast, with WAY too many automatic weapons to feel like WWI. It feels like a really lazy reskinning of the BF4 engine which it essentially is.

That's exactly how I felt, but tried to downplay it so I didn't come off as too jaded.  BF1942 will always be my favorite shooter and I was hoping to get a slightly slower version of it in this game.  It just wasn't there. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Teleku on August 31, 2016, 09:42:59 AM
EVE Online's going F2P. You can still sub and play EVE like it's always been played. F2Pers can train/run T1 frigates, cruisers, and destroyers of their PC faction only.
What other skills are you allowed train?  I mean, it's sort of impossible to play with just the "cruiser" skill.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on August 31, 2016, 09:45:31 AM
I would imagine skills for modules that could fit in the appropriate ships. All T1 of course.

Details here: https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/introducing-clone-states-and-the-future-of-access-to-eve-online/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on August 31, 2016, 09:59:36 AM
+1 for wishing it had been a return to the slower, more tactical gameplay of BF1942.

Ah, well. Terry Crews likes it so who cares?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sir T on August 31, 2016, 10:24:12 AM
EVE Online's going F2P. You can still sub and play EVE like it's always been played. F2Pers can train/run T1 frigates, cruisers, and destroyers of their PC faction only.

Wonder what happens if you character is in space with an advanced ship and you try logging in. And I wonder does that include faction cruisers.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on August 31, 2016, 10:48:25 PM
The Battlefield games have all gotten progressively worse since 1942 (a game so good that I even played it offline against bots a whole lot).  I would literally rather boot up and play 1942 right now than any other BF game.  They just couldn't resist chasing the other dudebro shooters out there, like we needed more of them.  It is like some bad metaphor for the entire gaming industry.

Eve Online F2P...is there even any reason to bother at all with those restrictions?  This is intended as a legit question, I have only played the game as a trial a long time ago. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Strazos on September 01, 2016, 12:26:02 AM
The only other BF game I had fun with was Bad Company 2 - all the others since have turned into a spammy mess with people spawning all over place with hardly any rhyme or reason, which makes proper battle lines impossible.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on September 01, 2016, 08:10:08 AM
I enjoyed BF4 a lot, a fuckton more than 3 (which was just horrible). Bad Company 2 was also really solid. Everything since BF4 has just been awful though, especially Hardline. BF1 is "as good" as BF4 in that it's basically still just BF4 only with WWI skins. It's just not a WWI shooter because it feels nothing like WW1 should feel.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on September 01, 2016, 10:35:42 AM
If you have Titan Quest, you can get the upgrade for Titan Quest Anniversary for free:  https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2016/08/31/titan-quest-anniversary-edition-free-update/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Reg on September 01, 2016, 12:02:32 PM
I loved that game! Time for a reinstall with this new version.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on September 06, 2016, 05:38:31 PM
Webzen has announced they are closing two of their MMOs they launched within the past year or so, Asta and Eloa.  Asta was a straight up WoW clone with an Asian skin while Eloa was a top down, action RPG similar to Diablo 3 and Tree of Savior.  While Asta was kind of fun for a bit and seemed well made and has some interesting features, Eloa was trash.  Neither one was really worth your time so I'm sure they won't be missed by other than the dozens of people who played them.

http://eloa.webzen.com/en/News/Notice/eloa-service-closure-1428134

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcxPgHn0ib4


http://asta.webzen.com/en/News/Notice/asta-discontinuation-of-service-1428138

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhGgKxP6mJ8


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on September 07, 2016, 01:44:51 PM
Never heard of them.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ard on September 07, 2016, 02:32:50 PM
Me either, and I'll play almost anything at least once.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on September 07, 2016, 07:32:49 PM
I played WoW... err, I mean, Asta... very briefly and it wasn't bad at all.  It's is very nearly almost exactly like WoW with Asian characters.  Even the colour scheme and terrain looks like WoW.  I was actually looking for an Asian MMORPG at the time and it didn't make the cut.   :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Druzil on September 12, 2016, 06:23:28 AM
Just sold a Steam trading card for $8.25.  Pretty sure that's like winning the Steam lottery.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on September 12, 2016, 06:44:16 AM
Just sold a Steam trading card for $8.25.  Pretty sure that's like winning the Steam lottery.

I don't think I've ever been able to sell a card for more than 25 cents, and that's at the very beginning of a steam sale.  What card sold for that much?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Druzil on September 12, 2016, 07:46:04 AM
I don't think I've ever been able to sell a card for more than 25 cents, and that's at the very beginning of a steam sale.  What card sold for that much?

It was a foil card from some anime/visual novel type game. There was only one other card on the Market.  It paid for the game!  :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on September 12, 2016, 08:19:14 AM
Does anyone have Tomorrow Children? Tell me of it!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on September 12, 2016, 11:25:02 AM
Intense Exposure (http://store.steampowered.com/app/518670/)  

After playing it in real life you can play it on your own!

:why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on September 12, 2016, 05:50:36 PM
Any smart person (not me) doesn't read the wow forum but hey.

http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749157269#post-1

Metzen retired. Who takes the crown for most-bad videogame writer now?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: CaptainNapkin on September 13, 2016, 11:50:27 AM
Forza Horizon 3 demo came out yesterday for Xbox One. Pretty nicely done demo as it gives you a taste of few different event and race types, then dumps you into and online session where you can repeat any of the events in online mode. It looks great as always. I'm excited this one's a "play anywhere" title so if you buy digital for X1 or PC you can play on both and progress is synced. No demo for PC yet.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on September 13, 2016, 12:36:36 PM
How does one go about purchasing Xbone games on PC? Do I need an Xbone or is there a Games For Windows Live 2016?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: CaptainNapkin on September 13, 2016, 01:19:56 PM
From the Windows Store (or whatever they call it). If you're running Win10 just search in the 'Store' app.
Or try this link in browser https://www.microsoft.com/store/apps/9nblggh4rq31


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on September 13, 2016, 05:03:33 PM
How I envision an average day of Paelos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdFDhze6MdU)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Father mike on September 14, 2016, 09:27:09 AM
The Bioshock Collection dropped on consoles yesterday, and will be dropping on Thursday for PC

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/bioshock-the-collection-out-now-on-ps4-and-xbox-on/1100-6443524/ (http://www.gamespot.com/articles/bioshock-the-collection-out-now-on-ps4-and-xbox-on/1100-6443524/)

Basically a remastered version of 1 and 2.  Consoles get a remastered version of Infinite; PC version of Infinite "meets current standards"

If you already own them on Steam, you'll get upgraded automagically!!! :awesome_for_real:  Upgraded versions include all DLCs, according to articles, but for the life of me I can't remember any DLCs on 1 & 2.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rattran on September 14, 2016, 01:30:25 PM
Minerva's Den was the DLC for 2 iirc


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on September 14, 2016, 06:13:31 PM
There's this adorkable game named Dragomon Hunter.  By that I mean cutesy pets, silly clothes and girls with boobs but the face of a four year old.  I think you guys with young kids would really like it.  Young as in before they know how creepy a woman with a four year old face is.  It seems easy enough.  I played until level 15 so far although I did wander off for about seven hours and came back to find my corpse.    :oh_i_see:

Rendakor and people from Iceland will probably like it, too.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Father mike on September 14, 2016, 06:18:45 PM
There's this adorkable game named Dragomon Hunter. 

From the fine folks who brought you Scarlet Blade!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on September 15, 2016, 10:45:00 AM
As a blast from the past, I recently stumbled upon this song from the Warcraft 2 soundtrack (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwWh1xy6gvU).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bann on September 16, 2016, 06:31:35 AM
I have a few Battlerite beta keys to pass along. Beta is for this weekend only, although I expect that these will get you into to future tests as well.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 16, 2016, 11:19:23 AM
Huh, it's a moba with zero nonsense. Weird.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on September 16, 2016, 12:41:08 PM
Isn't the nonsense the whole thing that makes a MOBA sticky in the first place?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 16, 2016, 01:11:21 PM
Probably.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ezrast on September 16, 2016, 02:44:51 PM
Oh hey, Boodline Champions 2. Should be worth a shot.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on September 19, 2016, 06:47:46 AM
(http://images.eurogamer.net/2015/articles/1/8/5/6/8/7/0/147403948402.jpg)


Geralt poststamp! 180,000 limited edition.

6 Zloty, ~ 1.4 € That's international mail. Id buy one...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Torinak on September 19, 2016, 01:56:49 PM
(http://images.eurogamer.net/2015/articles/1/8/5/6/8/7/0/147403948402.jpg)


Geralt poststamp! 180,000 limited edition.

6 Zloty, ~ 1.4 € That's international mail. Id buy one...

Link to the Polish Post Office's site (English) (http://www.filatelistyka.poczta-polska.pl/sklep_en/). Note that they apparently only take payment by direct bank transfer, so it may be hard to buy one if you're in the US. My spouse is getting help from a few friends in the EU to handle the payment part. It looks like shipping to the US will be about 5-10x the cost of the stamp+envelope. I don't think there's an option to have the Polish post office just put a bunch more of the Witcher stamps on the outside of the envelope to mail an un-cancelled one to us. :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on September 23, 2016, 08:10:26 PM
Forza Horizon 3 demo came out yesterday for Xbox One. Pretty nicely done demo as it gives you a taste of few different event and race types, then dumps you into and online session where you can repeat any of the events in online mode. It looks great as always. I'm excited this one's a "play anywhere" title so if you buy digital for X1 or PC you can play on both and progress is synced. No demo for PC yet.

Played a few hours of the full version today on console, and it's still great fun - you have a bit more tutorial type stuff before they drop you into free roam this time around and progression is handled a bit differently.  Will try out the play anywhere stuff tomorrow and see how it plays on the new GPU.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: CaptainNapkin on September 26, 2016, 07:35:51 AM
Played a few hours of the full version today on console, and it's still great fun - you have a bit more tutorial type stuff before they drop you into free roam this time around and progression is handled a bit differently.  Will try out the play anywhere stuff tomorrow and see how it plays on the new GPU.
Cool. I'll likely pick this up soon, it's a series I enjoy every iteration. My problem right now is that I picked up the new Destiny DLC in a moment of weakness, having barely scratched the surface of the last DLC and not put a lot of time in since the original. There's just so much to do that I haven't messed with before. Also had to scratch the recurring MMO itch and this satisfies it well enough. I'll get my 30 bucks worth then move on to Horizon 3.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Druzil on September 26, 2016, 07:56:16 AM
My plan was to get a character to max level before Rise of Iron so I could pick it up and play it.   I plateaued about level 30 though and haven't played in a few weeks. There was just so much content having never played it and then having access to all the expansions at once.  I've only even done like half the strikes that are available at this point and I'm way over the content level.  I've heard Taken King was great and that's about the point I made it up to so I'll probably try to get back into it.   There's so many games coming out this month it will be hard though.   Especially if DQ Builders sucks me in like I think it could.

I'm pretty excited about the play anywhere stuff.  I'll probably pickup Recore once they patch it a few times, maybe Gears 4 as well.   I hope they go back and make a Sunset Overdrive version at some point so I can play that.  The real dream though is if they roll the 360 library into it eventually, I would love to throw away my 360 and just have it all on PC.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: CaptainNapkin on September 26, 2016, 08:21:31 AM
I've only got 1 level 40, doing the new stuff with him. Also deleted my lowest level so I could restart and go through all the content fresh with the new Nolanbot. I'm a filthy casual and very content plinking around with whatever I feel like at the moment. New gear comes so easy anyway and I just never did have that "need the bestest stuff" gene. I still just love the gunplay in Destiny and it's really what keeps me coming back.

Recore is on my long list as well for when it hits the $20 mark or so.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jimbo on September 26, 2016, 09:56:59 PM
I enjoyed BF4 a lot, a fuckton more than 3 (which was just horrible). Bad Company 2 was also really solid. Everything since BF4 has just been awful though, especially Hardline. BF1 is "as good" as BF4 in that it's basically still just BF4 only with WWI skins. It's just not a WWI shooter because it feels nothing like WW1 should feel.
I was so freaking mad at DICE and that I was always the one that had a horrible time with Battlefield 4 at launch and when the netcode went to hell. I finally gave it another chance last week and have been enjoying it again. Ugh...I'm not wanting to try BF1, the burn from last time, I bought the whole thing, and couldn't play it, and they way they seemed to be flabberghasted that it all went to hell. I mean they had a great engine going in BF3. It did 64 large vehicle battles. But the game might have been going more tactical and thinking shooter, but if the code was crap, it was going to kill the gaming. I quit in frustration. I'm glad it is better. I still see random crap, like people running and jumping occasionally...still makes me want to freaking go nuts.
The fun of fresh out of the gate playing BF1 on day 1 would be pretty fun though and I'm sure I'll crash any plane I get into or have to try and fly.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on September 27, 2016, 03:13:39 AM
To dissuade you, apparently you have to spend north of $120 to get all of the BF1 content/ features at launch. I don't do BF games so I don't know if this is totally true or how gimped a $60 experience would be.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on September 27, 2016, 07:39:51 AM
I still see random crap, like people running and jumping occasionally...still makes me want to freaking go nuts.
The last nail in the BF coffin for me was the rampant dolphin diving in BF2. What the hell is wrong with people?

Since I'm wise enough to know I'll never figure that out, I mostly stick to games that don't require other people for enjoyment. At least online. Tabletop you can still call someone out for being a fucking tard.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: patience on September 30, 2016, 07:20:48 AM
Amazon after years of posturing has finally divulged why the hired so many game devs.

It looks like  the head hunting for ArenaNet devs and the the WoW Creative designer is all about creating a new PVP open world MMO.

Their decision to get fighting game devs is to develop a multiclass Rocket League game.

I wonder who they picked up for their 3rd project which is a base building RTS third person shooter hybrid.

All of this was revealed at TwitchCon.


https://games.amazon.com/games
Overview of each game. Only Breakway is in a roughly playable enough state.


Commentary of their preview of Breakaway at Twitchcon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFjp5h3bACU


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on September 30, 2016, 07:35:05 AM
It looks like  the head hunting for ArenaNet devs and the the WoW Creative designer is all about creating a new PVP open world MMO.

 :oh_i_see:

EDIT: Oh holy shit, the Amazon dink is actually talking about this "Stream+" thing which lets you earn points you can WAGER by watching Twitch streams of the game. THE FUCK?

Gambling. It's not just for criminal orgs.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on September 30, 2016, 08:08:15 AM
That's pretty impressive that you can make a huge gaming announcement and not have a single point of interest for me at all.

I often wonder how I even classify as a gamer anymore (never mind the games I play almost every night, that doesn't count anymore, apparently).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on September 30, 2016, 09:00:44 AM
It looks like  the head hunting for ArenaNet devs and the the WoW Creative designer is all about creating a new PVP open world MMO.

 :oh_i_see:

EDIT: Oh holy shit, the Amazon dink is actually talking about this "Stream+" thing which lets you earn points you can WAGER by watching Twitch streams of the game. THE FUCK?

Gambling. It's not just for criminal orgs.

All the big guys will head this way. The currency proxies let them say it's not real gambling so not subject to gaming laws. The truly awful ones will take a rake cut and black market credits to make money top of the front end of selling them.

In this case the sale of credits is via another proxy, eyeballs to advertisers.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on September 30, 2016, 09:02:38 AM
And kids LOVE THAT SHIT, which makes it doubly terrible.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on September 30, 2016, 09:21:14 AM
Didn't we JUST go through this with that whole stupid CSGO gambling site scam thing?  I guess Twitch was pretty central in all that and I never heard them take an official position on it, so maybe they just don't care.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 30, 2016, 09:24:01 AM
Errrrr

They dont care because they are Amazon.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on September 30, 2016, 09:54:55 AM
This seems like a giant bucket of bad ideas.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Strazos on September 30, 2016, 01:44:52 PM
What good are those points though, and how are they monetized?

This sort of "gambling" is such a waste of time - who cares?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Draegan on September 30, 2016, 02:59:24 PM
Win Amazon credits to buy stuff on Amazon?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: patience on September 30, 2016, 05:49:46 PM
Yeah it turns out that Amazon is partnering with Twitch. Amazon Prime now also includes the Twitch bundle.

This certainly makes subscription based MMOs viable again but I'm leery of other companies getting into this act especially Microsoft. Their ideas for subscriptions with MS Office have been terrible.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 30, 2016, 05:54:55 PM
Amazon owns Twitch. Of course they're fucking partnering.

Edit: To wit: https://twitch.amazon.com/prime


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Draegan on September 30, 2016, 06:14:00 PM
Buy prime and have an MMO sub? Sure.

I'm also intrigued about a sandbox pvp MMO in colonial america. Just based on the setting. It's an MMO so it'll be shitty and poorly thought out.

Seems like they are making a Smite like game too.

But the most interesting thing is that they are designing games that are not only fun to play but fun to watch. Has that been done before from a design perspective?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 30, 2016, 06:45:38 PM
I want to see how they divvy up each subscription to Prime. Like, surely $100 a year can't pay for this many things.

Or maybe the USPS and UPS are so in Amazons pocket that their shipping is practically free.

I want a literal pie chart.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Draegan on September 30, 2016, 06:54:43 PM
I looked up shipping for 70 lbs of dumbbells and it was free. So I'm sure all shipping costs are arbitrary.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on September 30, 2016, 07:42:51 PM
FYI, Mafia 3 preload is up. Hooked up my GMG key, 40.5GB.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on September 30, 2016, 07:45:50 PM
I want to see how they divvy up each subscription to Prime. Like, surely $100 a year can't pay for this many things.
It's got to be heading for a split. Would be interesting to see how many people stick to the 2 day shipping and not the digital services. My thought is that they're trying to keep people hooked on the 'free' digital services to the point where they'll miss it after the split and pony up.

I do like having the 'free' service, and use both the video and music services quite regularly. But I doubt I'd pay for them if they weren't included.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: patience on September 30, 2016, 09:19:14 PM
Amazon owns Twitch. Of course they're fucking partnering.

Edit: To wit: https://twitch.amazon.com/prime

Completely forgot about that .


But the most interesting thing is that they are designing games that are not only fun to play but fun to watch. Has that been done before from a design perspective?

Any game that was made to emulate Goat Simulator was designed with this in mind. But those are from small indie teams. All but 1 of the Bigger studios haven't taken the approach Amazon seems to be following in the steps of these indie devs. Their ideas of making games appealing to an audience is more along the lines of following Blizzard's direction in making a less confusing UI for spectators at tournaments.

None of them really though about making the spectators participants to such a large degree except for the team that did "1 vs 100" which probably predates all gaming experiences like Twitch Plays Pokemon and Goat Simulator.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 03, 2016, 06:00:02 AM
I already have Prime so I'm trying to detect a downside before I attach this shit to my account.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nebu on October 03, 2016, 06:54:41 AM
I already have Prime so I'm trying to detect a downside before I attach this shit to my account.

Let me know if you find anything.  I am in the same situation.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ezrast on October 03, 2016, 12:44:47 PM
I did it a couple days ago. There is a button to unlink your accounts, and Jeff Bezos hasn't inserted any subliminal mind control patterns into my video feeds yet. All hail Jeff Bezos.

I'm not using the key for the Smite skin if someone wants it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on October 03, 2016, 01:04:44 PM
I'll take it if it's still available.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ezrast on October 03, 2016, 01:25:26 PM
Sent.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 03, 2016, 02:01:52 PM
All Hail Jeff Bezos.

I haven't detected any downsides nor upsides.  I am unsurprisingly not streaming at the moment and I still don't know how to work Twitch, really.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on October 05, 2016, 03:00:39 PM
Their ideas of making games appealing to an audience is more along the lines of following Blizzard's direction in making a less confusing UI for spectators at tournaments.

I know that I've been banging this drum for a while, but un-kludging the UI is basically step one out of, like, a million.  It's always kind of perplexed me that Blizzard spends thousands or millions trying to push these games as E-SPORTS but nobody ever thought to stick their head in the meeting room during development and say "hey, maybe we should design the GAME so that it's easy to watch?  Instead of trying to tack it all on afterwards?  Yeah?"

I guess we'll see if that works for Amazon, maybe.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on October 05, 2016, 04:51:20 PM
They are in complete control of the BS gambling mechanics that allow the sites to run in the first place. They are the primary offender and enabler.

That's not really true.

The Valve machanics are lame and designed to prey upon people in the same way that some microtransaction games are, but this issue of third party skin trading websites that traded those skins via offering betting markets on the outcome of pro and semi-pro games, completely unregulated, and then went further to allow straight up roulette gambling of skins on their dodgy as fuck websites? That's the illegal and morally bankrupt shit.

Not shutting any of that stuff down, which was in their power, years ago is where Valve really did the wrong thing.
Valve may not be the direct offender but they are the enabler and have been ordered to cut that shit out:

Game Maker Valve Ordered to End Support of Black-Market Gambling (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-05/game-maker-valve-ordered-to-end-support-of-black-market-gambling)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on October 06, 2016, 09:10:41 AM
So it looks like the PC version of Mafia III may be locked to 30FPS (http://www.pcgamer.com/mafia-3-appears-to-be-locked-to-30fps-on-pc/).  Why this is so is anyone's guess, but they saved me $60 by doing it.  


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 06, 2016, 11:42:59 AM
So it looks like the PC version of Mafia III may be locked to 30FPS (http://www.pcgamer.com/mafia-3-appears-to-be-locked-to-30fps-on-pc/).  Why this is so is anyone's guess, but they saved me $60 by doing it.  
You seriously think that won't be patched pretty quickly?

Those comments are pretty funny though, so thanks for a few minutes of chuckling at Internet retards.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on October 06, 2016, 12:08:36 PM
So it looks like the PC version of Mafia III may be locked to 30FPS (http://www.pcgamer.com/mafia-3-appears-to-be-locked-to-30fps-on-pc/).  Why this is so is anyone's guess, but they saved me $60 by doing it.  
You seriously think that won't be patched pretty quickly?

Those comments are pretty funny though, so thanks for a few minutes of chuckling at Internet retards.

Apparently the physics and animations are locked to framerate, so I don't know how quick/easy a patch to fix it will be.  On the bright side, by the time they do fix it it might be a bit cheaper.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 06, 2016, 12:29:14 PM
I'll be surprised if I notice at all, honestly.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on October 06, 2016, 07:16:18 PM
What's the problem with 30 FPS?  Isn't that at the edge of what the human eye can even notice?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 06, 2016, 07:17:47 PM
Quote
UPDATE [10/6 / 6PM PT]: We currently have a patch running here at the studio that includes 30, 60, and unlimited frames-per-second options in the video menu, among other improvements for the PC version of Mafia III. We’re verifying the patch now to ensure everything is working as expected. If everything goes well, we expect the update to go live this weekend. We will be keeping the PC community up-to-date on the status of the patch throughout the weekend and thank you for all the feedback!

https://mafiagame.com/en/news/view/en-mafia-3-a-message-to-our-pc-players/

I wish the Internet could calm their goddamned tits.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MahrinSkel on October 06, 2016, 07:54:29 PM
What's the problem with 30 FPS?  Isn't that at the edge of what the human eye can even notice?
No, 60fps is the minimum for that. 30fps is just above what the human visual cortex can consciously register, but still low enough that it will feel slow and chunky for the typical gamer in any kind of FPS.

--Dave


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on October 06, 2016, 08:15:53 PM
S'good that they've got a patch ready to go fairly quickly.  I'd imagine they didn't want to be the second 'Arkham Knight on PC' story and the Steam buyers were letting 'em have it with both barrels in the reviews.

I still don't know why they didn't delay the PC release for the couple of days it would have apparently taken to fix it - surely that would have gone over better than this did.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 06, 2016, 08:58:38 PM
Sure, it's nice it's being patched. But the way it went down couldn't have been worse. A simple 'hey, it would really be nice if this was 60fps/unlocked like modern pc titles' would've been fine.

I'm really fed up with this whiny, irrational nonsense that seems to be getting worse thanks to these ever-present forums for commentary.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: apocrypha on October 06, 2016, 11:41:41 PM
What's the problem with 30 FPS?  Isn't that at the edge of what the human eye can even notice?
No, 60fps is the minimum for that. 30fps is just above what the human visual cortex can consciously register, but still low enough that it will feel slow and chunky for the typical gamer in any kind of FPS.

--Dave

Argh, guys, this is just not how human eyes & brains work, there aren't limits like that. Around 60 fps things mostly look fluid to us, but we can still see differences between 60 and 120 fps for instance. Think of an object moving horizontally across your screen fast enough that it takes 1/6th of a second to cross. At 60 fps you'd get 10 frames of it which on a 24" monitor would put them about 2" apart spatially. At 120 fps there'd be 20 frames 1" apart, a difference our visual systems can spot, although the difference between 30 and 60 fps is much more noticable than between 60 and 120, especially if you're older.

This is why motion blur has become such a thing - it tricks our brain/eyes into not noticing the gaps between frames of fast moving objects and makes even high framerates look even smoother (if it's done well).

The whole 'we can only see up to x fps' myth is one that just won't die, and it irks me greatly that one of the top search results for it is a Nerdist piece that is terribly, awfully wrong and uses examples from film and things filmed with strobes to illustrate it's grossly erroneous suppositions.

</knee-jerk rant>  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on October 07, 2016, 05:57:28 AM
This is why motion blur has become such a thing - it tricks our brain/eyes into not noticing the gaps between frames of fast moving objects and makes even high framerates look even smoother (if it's done well).

With zero knowledge what so ever I'd be surprised if our eyes even work in frames.  I was under the impression it was just a literally constant stream of optical data with no pauses or breaks that we typically consider for frames, and the reason low framerates are noticable was because we are not used to having stuttered movement.

Also the funny thing about the myth that people can't see more than 30fps is laughable just if you think about how VR under 90fps makes people sick.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on October 07, 2016, 06:13:52 AM
I have a friend who was one of those staunch "FPS arguments are bullshit, 30 FPS is perfectly fine, you don't need 60" folks, until I sat her down in front of Dark Souls 1 with DSFix enabled, where you can swap from 30 to 60 FPS on the fly with the push of a button and let her see the difference.

"I had no idea" were the first words out of her mouth after a couple minutes of silence.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 07, 2016, 06:31:02 AM
On the other hand, I played Mafia III for 2 hours last night and it was awesome.

Don't waste energy bitching about inconsequential things. I'm beginning to suspect everyone's favorite game is complaining.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rattran on October 07, 2016, 07:50:59 AM
Complaining about all the complaining is the meta-game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: apocrypha on October 07, 2016, 08:08:00 AM
With zero knowledge what so ever I'd be surprised if our eyes even work in frames.  I was under the impression it was just a literally constant stream of optical data with no pauses or breaks that we typically consider for frames, and the reason low framerates are noticable was because we are not used to having stuttered movement.

It's actually interestingly more complex than that, if you want a read there's a good section here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagon-wheel_effect#Truly_continuous_illumination), but for all practical purposes regarding gaming and watching films/TV then yes, that's pretty much how it works.

Of course something to remember is that most LCD/LED monitors and TVs are capped at 60 Hz anyway, although that's changing. And of course NTSC/PAL standards are 25/30 fps (and cinema film is 24 fps), but TVs have much greater persistence of image than monitors do which reduces the stutter effect you see at <60 fps in games.

FPS is something that we, as gamers, treat as a fundamental metric and yet it's incredibly poorly understood in general.

Aaaaaanyway, the Mafia III devs say (https://mafiagame.com/en/news/view/en-mafia-3-a-message-to-our-pc-players/) there's a fix coming for PC.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 07, 2016, 08:20:05 AM
Complaining about all the complaining is the meta-game.
I'm not unaware of this  :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on October 07, 2016, 08:21:26 AM
On the other hand, I played Mafia III for 2 hours last night and it was awesome.

Don't waste energy bitching about inconsequential things. I'm beginning to suspect everyone's favorite game is complaining.

This is kind of a repeat of your No Man's Sky performance. People have a right to bitch. Your enjoyment of the game is not dependent on their acceptance of bullshit from devs.

Games can have problems, their devs can do shitty things, and you can still enjoy the game regardless. The bitching is fine and you're just white knighting another one of your game crushes.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82533/headslap.gif)

edit: And yes, you can bitch about bitching. The great ouroboros of internet bitching lives on.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 07, 2016, 08:50:01 AM
Honestly, it doesn't bother me that people complain about things, as you're correct, I can ignore that just fine.

But when they get out of hand and start downvoting the game and it has repercussions on game development, it bugs me. Rather than wait for a fix, they downvote a review. Will they later remove the bad kneejerk review? Give it a good review? Possibly, but I doubt it. And that's long-term worse for gaming than releasing a game that a small but vocal percentage of gamers has to wait a couple days to play 'properly'. Especially when it has monetary repercussions for folks who made a pretty darn good game.

Mafia III is a good game with a minor technical flaw that's already been patched internally. The outrage is unwarranted at the scale it's being unleashed at. This is a bad trend for gaming, because it's now being seen as the way to enact change.

Look at the tons of steam bad reviews with almost no playtime and citing 30fps. Which will be fixed in a couple days. Invalidating the bad review. You can't seriously think this is a good thing?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on October 07, 2016, 09:10:25 AM
It's the game they released. It's the game they gave for review and public consumption. It's on them.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: apocrypha on October 07, 2016, 09:12:03 AM
Isn't the Steam change to showing recent reviews as a separate rating specifically meant to address that issue?

And if people don't complain in ways that affect developers about shit they don't like then how are developers ever going to try not doing shit that people don't like? Voting with your wallet and your review rating are the only options gamers have.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MahrinSkel on October 07, 2016, 09:23:15 AM
Apocrypha, I am fully aware that it isn't as simple as "Above magic number X you can't tell", and depending on what aspect of the process we call "vision" you focus on, FPS (and for that matter, pixel density and color depth) can have totally different attributes.

Point is, 30 FPS is way too damned low.

--Dave


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: apocrypha on October 07, 2016, 09:31:25 AM
Apocrypha, I am fully aware that it isn't as simple as "Above magic number X you can't tell", and depending on what aspect of the process we call "vision" you focus on, FPS (and for that matter, pixel density and color depth) can have totally different attributes.

Point is, 30 FPS is way too damned low.

--Dave

Sorry, it is a bit of a knee-jerk response with me because I've had so many arguments with people before who had read all kinds of utterly wrong shit off the internet.

And yes, a 30 FPS lock is not acceptable on a PC version, agree entirely.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on October 07, 2016, 09:56:06 AM
So it looks like the PC version of Mafia III may be locked to 30FPS (http://www.pcgamer.com/mafia-3-appears-to-be-locked-to-30fps-on-pc/).  Why this is so is anyone's guess, but they saved me $60 by doing it.  
You seriously think that won't be patched pretty quickly?

Those comments are pretty funny though, so thanks for a few minutes of chuckling at Internet retards.

It is being patched this weekend to bring it to 60 fps but it would have been swell if they had mentioned it was capped at 30 fps beforehand, you know, when they were getting people to pre-order.  It's kind of shady not to mention it at all.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on October 07, 2016, 10:15:35 AM
It is being patched this weekend to bring it to 60 fps but it would have been swell if they had mentioned it was capped at 30 fps beforehand, you know, when they were getting people to pre-order.  It's kind of shady not to mention it at all.

So much this. Outrage happens because devs aren't open with customers about shit that should be pretty easy to communicate and also important for a good portion of the player base.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on October 07, 2016, 10:22:16 AM
Point is, 30 FPS is way too damned low.

It's fine.  It's what we played games at for decades, it's what consoles STILL typically run games at TODAY.  30 FPS is noticeable, but it doesn't make the game unplayable.  It's just what PC players latch on to as their "BETRAYAL" metric because stuff like polycount and texture resolution is hard to measure and we need SOMETHING to show we're better than the console plebs even though we get 95% of the same games.

If you prefer games at 60 FPS that's fine and I'm not saying you're wrong or anything, but let's not pretend that it's the ONE THING that defines these games as being worth buying or not.  It's getting silly.  Like half the reviews are just these masturbatory recitals of the make and model of the reviewer's video card, like we're supposed to be impressed at what a great guy he is to have such a PC and at the same time also outraged that his game is not living up to the exacting standards that such a superman deservedly holds.  I don't care about your computer, I want to know if the game is good, please.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on October 07, 2016, 01:17:18 PM
Some reviewers definitely spend way too much time blathering about their hardware, but it's still nice to know what stuff they're using if they're talking about technical performance so I can roughly gauge what to expect on my own machines.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: apocrypha on October 09, 2016, 02:57:03 AM
Mafia III patch 1.01 unlocks framerate (http://steamcommunity.com/games/360430/announcements/detail/814414949508697159). 60 FPS and unlimited options available. The squeaky wheel gets the grease.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: CaptainNapkin on October 09, 2016, 07:37:40 AM
Mafia 3 vs Mafia 2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixlszwKVVP0). Folks raging that this shows 3 is a downgrade from 2.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tmp on October 09, 2016, 09:56:46 AM
Point is, 30 FPS is way too damned low.
I'll go out on a limb and admit in some/lot/most cases I actually prefer ~30 fps than 60+ because the latter I have hopelessly, unconsciously paired with the 'cheap, fake-looking tv-only show' vs cinematic feel of the 'real' movie shot with actual movie camera. Similar to how plenty people reacted to the 60 fps Hobbit.

But there's no denying the difference between 30 and 60 fps is easily noticeable.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 09, 2016, 11:55:16 AM
Mafia 3 vs Mafia 2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixlszwKVVP0). Folks raging that this shows 3 is a downgrade from 2.  :oh_i_see:
No, those are honestly my list of gripes about the game (in fact, they missed a couple big ones like no garage). It's a good game and I'm loving it right now, but it's lost a lot of what made Mafia unique. I happen to love games with all those little touches, to me it all aids verisimilitude, which is important to me.

I felt Mafia 2 > GTA IV by a wide margin, but GTA wins this round with GTA V > Mafia 3.

I'm certainly not going to thumbs down a good game for that, but it's sad because I doubt those little touches will return to the series.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on October 09, 2016, 08:02:05 PM
Mafia 3 vs Mafia 2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixlszwKVVP0). Folks raging that this shows 3 is a downgrade from 2.  :oh_i_see:
No, those are honestly my list of gripes about the game (in fact, they missed a couple big ones like no garage). It's a good game and I'm loving it right now, but it's lost a lot of what made Mafia unique. I happen to love games with all those little touches, to me it all aids verisimilitude, which is important to me.

I felt Mafia 2 > GTA IV by a wide margin, but GTA wins this round with GTA V > Mafia 3.

I'm certainly not going to thumbs down a good game for that, but it's sad because I doubt those little touches will return to the series.

This is a different studio than the one that made the first two, I think, so those things may be gone for good.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Megrim on October 09, 2016, 09:45:05 PM
So what's some good stuff to play on a tablet pc? I have come into possession of an older samsung something or other running windows 7, stylus, all the jazz, etc...

So far I have Darkest Dungeon. What else is good for this sort of device?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: apocrypha on October 10, 2016, 12:44:57 AM
So what's some good stuff to play on a tablet pc? I have come into possession of an older samsung something or other running windows 7, stylus, all the jazz, etc...

So far I have Darkest Dungeon. What else is good for this sort of device?

Invisible Inc. works well, can be a bit clunky with right-clicking though.
X-Com: The Enemy Within is good, but hard work unless your tablet is a fucking monster.
Apparently Civ 5 also has a touchscreen mode but I had issues getting it to run at all, didn't like the high resolution of the SP3.
Guild of Dungeoneers works perfectly, kinda lightweight game though, but fun.

There's a list here (https://www.reddit.com/r/Surface/wiki/gamelist) of games that run on Surface tablets that might be useful.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on October 10, 2016, 02:21:48 PM
So what's some good stuff to play on a tablet pc? I have come into possession of an older samsung something or other running windows 7, stylus, all the jazz, etc...

So far I have Darkest Dungeon. What else is good for this sort of device?

The new Shadowrun games work well on a tablet.  The first 2 are available, not sure about Hong Kong.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on October 10, 2016, 07:40:34 PM
I'm playing through XCOM2 again with the DLC and Long War Studio mods.

The Alien Hunters DLC can eat a dick- holy shit are the Alien Rulers and their gimmick annoying. Basically forces you to run an A-team every mission until you kill them all, along with a grenadier-class rocking the Frost Bomb they're nice enough to give you. Basically you pray you can spot the fuckers early and bait them into a wall of overwatch fire, then freeze them and stack DOTs on them while hoping they waste their unfrozen rounds doing dumb stuff.

Shen's Last Gift has a cool mission and gives you a questionably useful SHIV replacement that is hilarious if you give it a specific voicepack (that is legit part of the DLC).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 11, 2016, 10:38:27 AM
Everybody Loves Shen


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: patience on October 12, 2016, 08:52:27 PM
Point is, 30 FPS is way too damned low.

It's fine.  It's what we played games at for decades, it's what consoles STILL typically run games at TODAY.  30 FPS is noticeable, but it doesn't make the game unplayable.  It's just what PC players latch on to as their "BETRAYAL" metric because stuff like polycount and texture resolution is hard to measure and we need SOMETHING to show we're better than the console plebs even though we get 95% of the same games.

If you prefer games at 60 FPS that's fine and I'm not saying you're wrong or anything, but let's not pretend that it's the ONE THING that defines these games as being worth buying or not.  It's getting silly.  Like half the reviews are just these masturbatory recitals of the make and model of the reviewer's video card, like we're supposed to be impressed at what a great guy he is to have such a PC and at the same time also outraged that his game is not living up to the exacting standards that such a superman deservedly holds.  I don't care about your computer, I want to know if the game is good, please.

What we played for decades? Before 3D most games were 60 FPS. Even when 3D started to develop in the 90s the standard bearers of the best games were 60 FPS. It's during the middle of 2000 did games see a huge shift towards sacrificing performance for visual fidelity and even then graphic devs couldn't get it right. I remember a ton of people complaining about Bloom and now people complain about chromatic aberration.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MahrinSkel on October 12, 2016, 08:58:07 PM
I think he's talking about pre-HD consoles and arcade games. And many console games still only do 30 fps, which is how things like the Mafia III thing happen.

--Dave


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tmp on October 15, 2016, 10:54:23 PM
What we played for decades? Before 3D most games were 60 FPS.
With the caveat that stuff had maybe 4 frames for the walk cycle and 2-3 for fighting animations, if you were lucky. Which dragged the overall impression of frame rate down somewhat fierce.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 17, 2016, 12:19:51 PM
So, talk of a Red Dead Redemption 2. Chances it will be on PC? Will the supposedly unified Win10/Scorpio thing help or will it be a PS4 only eff you?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: apocrypha on October 17, 2016, 02:10:48 PM
If it's not on PC the howls of outrage will usher in a new dark age.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on October 17, 2016, 05:56:33 PM
They make so much money from GTAO I would be surprised if they skip any of the platforms. I hope the game isn't too far off; nothing worse than having to wait 2 more years to launch.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 17, 2016, 09:23:36 PM
It was worth the wait for GTA V, I don't mind as long as it happens :)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on October 18, 2016, 06:12:54 AM
I don't care very much about a RDR 2. The original Rock Star San Diego Crew doesn't exist anymore. The executive responsible for actually making sure that Rock Star games actually ship at some point and have somewhat coherent plot and gameplay mechanics is no longer with the company. I don't have much faith in the Hauser Brothers' ability to write something that is entertaining and meaningful and not just high school level glibness and cynicism and is not littered with despicable scum protagonists..

It will also be littered with online elements and microtransactions.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on October 18, 2016, 06:30:12 AM
Also according to the announcement by Rockstar XBox One and PS 4 only. I don't know if that means that the PC Version will come later (like GTA V)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on October 18, 2016, 07:33:45 AM
Meh. Announcing something a year in advance is silly. Invariably it will be more like 18-24 months because most games announced this far out get pushed out.

Also, no PC announcement? The two primary things I was 99% sure they wouldn't do, they actually did.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 18, 2016, 07:40:18 AM
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2016/10/17/voice-actor-strike/#more-405883

I can't be the only person that doesn't give a single fuck about voice actors in gaming. This whole thing strikes me as ridiculous. Strikes like this are ONE HUNDRED percent about wanting more money. Unfortunately the value of voice acting in games is a question mark on the whole. And omg, residuals. Fuck. As if I needed another reason to hate Wil Wheaton.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on October 18, 2016, 07:46:03 PM
VAs don't tend to get paid a lot unless they're legit celebs.

However, I'd say they're less abused than the people who actually make the rest of the game. I doubt VAs do 80 hour weeks.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on October 18, 2016, 08:13:26 PM
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2016/10/17/voice-actor-strike/#more-405883

I can't be the only person that doesn't give a single fuck about voice actors in gaming. This whole thing strikes me as ridiculous. Strikes like this are ONE HUNDRED percent about wanting more money. Unfortunately the value of voice acting in games is a question mark on the whole. And omg, residuals. Fuck. As if I needed another reason to hate Wil Wheaton.

Yeah, honestly this kind of pisses me off.  If VAs want to tighten the thumbscrews and wring EA or Activision for money, it's the cubicle monkeys working 16 hour days because they love the industry who are going to be paying for it, and I can't help but think that they get shit on enough already.  Because you know if programmers or artists tried this they'd be on the street with a replacement sitting in their chair before they finished the sentence, because who gives a shit about them.  The only reason the VAs are even trying this is based on the fact that they are the closest thing Video Games have to "Star Power" and how much the industry wants to be Hollywood... and honestly, screw that.  


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 19, 2016, 05:38:37 AM
On the other hand, if people who jabber words into a microphone for a living can get organized and stand up for themselves against corporate oppressors, what excuse do the dumb fucks programming games have for letting themselves be abused by a completely known and understood system?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on October 19, 2016, 11:04:13 AM
On the other hand, if people who jabber words into a microphone for a living can get organized and stand up for themselves against corporate oppressors, what excuse do the dumb fucks programming games have for letting themselves be abused by a completely known and understood system?

They don't have a signature impact on the final product.  Without looking at the credits, I can't tell if Bob Smith or Jane Doe had anything to do with the programming, but I notice when Cam Clarke's voice comes out of my speakers.  That makes it way easier to swap programmers than VAs without anyone noticing.

Not that that's stopped devs from doing that before anyways, of course (why yes, I am playing through Metal Gear Solid 5 now, how did you guess)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on October 20, 2016, 08:41:12 AM
Nintendo Switch stuff moved to its own thread:

http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=25420.0


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 20, 2016, 12:55:53 PM
Being an interchangeable moron is basically why unions were invented.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on November 04, 2016, 11:26:51 AM
Deepmind Director is on stage at Blizzcon opening.

Interesting.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Father mike on November 04, 2016, 11:55:25 AM
Crap ... is it Blizzcon again already?  Where did the year go?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on November 13, 2016, 07:53:42 PM
I just replaced my N3DS c-stick with a psp analog stick (http://www.geek.com/games/new-3ds-c-stick-can-be-replaced-with-a-psp-analog-stick-1648121/) and it's amazing. 

That stupid nub is terrible and Nintendo should be ashamed.  This PSP stick makes it sooo much easier to control the camera in Monster Hunter.  It's a night and day difference.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Pagz on November 29, 2016, 04:13:22 PM
Has anyone played Space Hulk: Deathwing? Thoughts?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on November 29, 2016, 04:57:14 PM
I've played the tutorial :awesome_for_real:

I'll let you know after I've played a few real games. After I finished the tutorial all the games were either yellow or red to me so I didn't try to join.

Edit: or not, since the Beta is over, have to wait a week now to play again


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on December 03, 2016, 01:09:53 PM
Persona 5 story trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKKXJZii9Pc


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on December 03, 2016, 03:17:22 PM
That makes me happy in the pants.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on December 06, 2016, 09:16:53 AM
Bought a PSIV thinking Persona would be out this year.  At least the wait's almost over.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on December 06, 2016, 12:09:09 PM
You know, Red Dead Redemption 2 is gonna feel pretty weird after watching Westworld. There's no question in my mind that the people making the show played RDR 1.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on December 06, 2016, 08:49:44 PM
You know, Red Dead Redemption 2 is gonna feel pretty weird after watching Westworld. There's no question in my mind that the people making the show played RDR 1.


IIRC, they actually listed that game as one of the games that they "researched" to get the tone of the show right.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MahrinSkel on December 06, 2016, 10:28:55 PM
Yeah, I love that kind of research. Being able to claim your Steam budget as a business expense rocks.

--Dave


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shannow on December 07, 2016, 06:16:28 AM
Yeah, I love that kind of research. Being able to claim your Steam budget as a business expense rocks.

--Dave

Life goals.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shannow on December 09, 2016, 12:59:06 PM
Anyone try Dreadnaughts? Got a beta key today. Worth downloading?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: taolurker on December 09, 2016, 04:41:55 PM
Anyone try Dreadnaughts? Got a beta key today. Worth downloading?
Wait which game? Dreadnought?

I actually won a Mercenary pack for that game, Dreadnought (https://www.greybox.com/dreadnought/en/), and it was ok for a few tries at arena combat with giant ships. If you're looking for something deeper than just arena battles and ship customization tho, I really can't recommend it because the combat is kinda dominated by higher levels, the matchmaking was broken badly (long load times for unbalanced teams with leveled people mixed with novices) and not a whole load of variety.

If there was another game you meant, then disregard this message.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on December 10, 2016, 09:07:42 AM
The Legend of Grimrock 2 is on sale for $8.19 at GOG.  You can get Grimrock 1 for a fiver if you don't have it, too.  I read that 2 is better than one... just like with cats.  And boobies.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: penfold on December 11, 2016, 03:55:43 AM
Oh i picked up Grimrock 2, Secret World, Dungeons 2, TIS1000, Volume and Infinfactory in a humble bundle for 5er a few weeks ago and havent done anything than create a char in Grimrock 2, will give it some time at some point.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on December 12, 2016, 10:50:30 AM
Anyone try Dreadnaughts? Got a beta key today. Worth downloading?

Hey, you're the dude with the beta key.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on December 12, 2016, 12:20:10 PM
 :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on December 14, 2016, 10:16:43 PM
The Division Free "Weekend" on PC, Dec 15 - 18 (pre-loading now). Requires Uplay account.

http://blog.ubi.com/division-play-free-weekend-pc/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: apocrypha on December 15, 2016, 02:49:30 AM
Hitman holiday level pits you against the baddies from Home Alone, so you can finish what Kevin started (http://www.vg247.com/2016/12/13/hitman-holiday-level-pits-you-against-the-baddies-from-home-alone-so-you-can-finish-what-kevin-started/).

 :awesome_for_real:

This game is rising up my want list.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Wasted on December 15, 2016, 11:34:00 PM
Ubisoft is giving away 7 games for free until the 18th. Prince of Persia The Sand of Time, Splinter Cell, Rayman Origins, The Crew, Beyond Good & Evil, FarCry 3 Blood Dragon & Assassin's Creed III.

I got them through the ubisoft club page, guess I am finally installing uplay   :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on December 16, 2016, 11:39:46 AM
Well .... Blood Dragon was pretty good.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on December 17, 2016, 03:55:28 AM
Ubisoft is giving away 7 games for free until the 18th. Prince of Persia The Sand of Time, Splinter Cell, Rayman Origins, The Crew, Beyond Good & Evil, FarCry 3 Blood Dragon & Assassin's Creed III.

I got them through the ubisoft club page, guess I am finally installing uplay   :oh_i_see:

Hmmm.  Not here they're not ?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on December 17, 2016, 11:08:59 AM
If you log into Uplay, the choice is there - at least in the US.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on December 18, 2016, 03:40:48 AM
 :oh_i_see:

Nope.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Strazos on December 18, 2016, 07:49:58 AM
Anyone try Dreadnaughts? Got a beta key today. Worth downloading?
Wait which game? Dreadnought?

I actually won a Mercenary pack for that game, Dreadnought (https://www.greybox.com/dreadnought/en/), and it was ok for a few tries at arena combat with giant ships. If you're looking for something deeper than just arena battles and ship customization tho, I really can't recommend it because the combat is kinda dominated by higher levels, the matchmaking was broken badly (long load times for unbalanced teams with leveled people mixed with novices) and not a whole load of variety.

If there was another game you meant, then disregard this message.

Is this particularly different than Fractured Space? I played it a bit at some point last year, and it was fun for a little while. With a half-decent team, snipers were ludicrous.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 22, 2016, 08:28:48 AM
So officially the worst thing to happen in 2016: MS killed off minecraft.net/classic/play  :ye_gods:

There is going to be rioting in libraries and schools.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on December 22, 2016, 09:11:46 AM
I googled that and feel icky.  Explain for us heathens?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 22, 2016, 09:51:08 AM
I dunno, there's so much garbage in google results I'm not sure of the entire story.

A librarian here sent a group email with instructions on showing kids how to download a bootleg version of the game to play, as the site had disappeared. I dug enough to learn MS has pulled support for the free web version (which was older anyway) on November 29th.

I had to send an email telling people not to instruct children to download illegal software :\ She's new and I've already had to speak to her a few times about, you know, obeying the law...

Looking into the Education version, but the web version was so much easier for the library and the kids.

Fucking Microsoft.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on December 22, 2016, 10:26:25 AM
Replace site with text: "READ A BOOK"


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on December 22, 2016, 10:26:33 AM
There was a web-based version of Minecraft?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on December 22, 2016, 10:27:31 AM
That was the part I didn't realize.  I figured it out from context and chose not to further engage Sky.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on December 22, 2016, 12:59:03 PM
There was a web-based version of Minecraft?

From what I remember it was a very, very, VERY old alpha/beta version of Minecraft that's like... so old there's no enemies or Survival mode or anything.

Or at least that's how it was last time I saw it, but it's been years now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 22, 2016, 01:35:34 PM
I ... chose not to further engage Sky.
But...I'm so delightful and urbane!

Yeah, it was an older build but kids loved it. I really want to set up a solid modded server to blow their little minds but what a giant pain in the ass.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: apocrypha on December 22, 2016, 11:15:02 PM
I'm a total Minecraft addict and I didn't realise there was a web version either.  :oh_i_see:

That sucks though Sky.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: taolurker on December 23, 2016, 04:47:36 PM
Anyone try Dreadnaughts? Got a beta key today. Worth downloading?
Wait which game? Dreadnought?

I actually won a Mercenary pack for that game, Dreadnought (https://www.greybox.com/dreadnought/en/), and it was ok for a few tries at arena combat with giant ships. If you're looking for something deeper than just arena battles and ship customization tho, I really can't recommend it because the combat is kinda dominated by higher levels, the matchmaking was broken badly (long load times for unbalanced teams with leveled people mixed with novices) and not a whole load of variety.

If there was another game you meant, then disregard this message.

Is this particularly different than Fractured Space? I played it a bit at some point last year, and it was fun for a little while. With a half-decent team, snipers were ludicrous.
It's almost exactly the same as Fractured Space.. It's arena combat with huge, lumbering, spaceships. Not a whole lot of depth, or replay value, and it was fun for a few matches (when not horribly imbalanced or spending 20 mins in queue). They had some kinda promo weekend this or last weekend, and there were tons of codes floating around to try this out.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ezrast on December 29, 2016, 04:30:29 PM
Hey, Frog Fractions 2 wasn't a scam. This should be good.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on December 29, 2016, 06:54:45 PM
Hey, Frog Fractions 2 wasn't a scam. This should be good.

But do they have Battletoads?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 03, 2017, 07:26:16 AM
I ... chose not to further engage Sky.
But...I'm so delightful and urbane!

So true... but not tonight, honey.

Mods being a pain in the ass is one reason I just play vanilla.

Along these lines, after some family physics my son purchased a game called Planet Centauri.  I only looked at the Steam page quickly.  Looks like someone wanted a Starbound that was less like No Man's Sky and more like Terraria.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on January 03, 2017, 09:02:22 AM
I love mods... BUT... I do try to play through a game once (or at least until it's beginning to bore me) before I use them.  Except for weight limits.  I always get rid of that.  If there are mods that make the game look better, I use those too.  And hair... must have cool hair.  Cosmetic stuff isn't really cheating, though... so fashion.  I need to feel good about myself whilst I play games.  Console commands aren't cheating though, right?  Because they're right there, inside the game, waiting.  :)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 03, 2017, 02:11:33 PM
Yea, I guess that's a grey area.  Just do what is fun.  Fun for me is not having a java-bomb because of some binary incompatibility, or even having to lift the hood of a piece of entertainment that I just want to enjoy.  I don't want to mod a game any more than I want to add scenes to a boring movie.  I mean, I wish the movie was better but I'm not going to make any improvements to it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on January 03, 2017, 02:13:14 PM
The various launcher programs handle all the backend shit for Minecraft, these days. Just find a pack that sounds interesting and you'll be playing in a few clicks.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ard on January 03, 2017, 07:04:44 PM
It's not even launchers anymore for the most part.  Most everything decent shows up on the Curse one.  It's stupidly easy nowadays.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on January 04, 2017, 09:18:12 AM
The Curse launcher is kind of shit though, if all you want is Minecraft. I prefer Technic if I'm going for easy to setup, or MultiMC if I feel like tinkering with mods.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nija on January 04, 2017, 10:50:24 AM
Nintendo Switch pricing leaks in Italy. €399.98, which is about... $100 to $150 more than I expected it to be.

Hopefully it comes with extra controllers and the dock/stand and a power adapter and things like that.

http://nintendowire.com/blog/2017/01/04/gamestop-italy-opens-switch-preorders-breath-wild-amiibo-listings-hint-release/ (http://nintendowire.com/blog/2017/01/04/gamestop-italy-opens-switch-preorders-breath-wild-amiibo-listings-hint-release/)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 04, 2017, 11:02:39 AM
We got a PSVR for the boy, so he's probably going to have to do something amazing to convince us to get a Switch.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on January 04, 2017, 11:22:43 AM
My son got into playing Smash Bros for a bit. Was pretty nice to play with him, even if I had to play less than optimally.  Wife didn't even scoff at me getting him a Switch because buying a WiiU at this point would be a waste and building up a Wii library is pointless as well.

So, even though I'd rather have a PS4 or even an XBone, I'll take it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on January 04, 2017, 12:14:54 PM
I've just bowed to the inevitability of Curse, bloated shitware that it is.

But I also don't mind getting my hands dirty messing around with configs and adding/removing mods to fit the way I like to play.

I should probably check out the 7D2D mod scene at some point. The configs are really well done, good sorting and commenting in xml.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on January 04, 2017, 07:25:06 PM
Watching Nvidia CES keynote.

Looks like someone up there recently binge-watched Terminator and Black Mirror and mixed them together. "Nice!".


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on February 01, 2017, 12:03:54 PM
Anybody got any read on Tales of Zestiria? Most of the Steam reviews are positive. I ask because it's on the Humble Bundle today as the $15 tier and I'm considering getting the bundle because WH40K Eternal Crusade is on it at the $9 level and I figure that's a decent price to give it a try. I just don't know if Tales and the Project Cars DLC is worth the extra $6.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ard on February 01, 2017, 07:31:57 PM
I haven't played it despite having owned it for like a year, but I hear it's one of the weaker ones in the more recent entries in the series.  The good one is supposedly the newest one.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on February 01, 2017, 08:14:13 PM
I went ahead and splurged for the $15 package - figured $6 wouldn't kill me and I might like the game. I got it for Eternal Crusade anyway and that is.... special in a retarded sort of way. On first blush, it's not nearly as good as I hoped.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on February 03, 2017, 05:37:58 AM
I actually got Tales of Zestiria on sale last Christmas and have been playing it off and on. It's not bad (bearing in mind that the last Tales game I played was Phantasia... on the SNES), but the combat is needlessly complex with convoluted systems-within-systems that are overwhelming and largely unnecessary unless you're playing on harder difficulties. The story isn't deep, and is as Anime Hero's Journey as it comes, but I like the characters well enough and the localization and English voice acting are good enough to keep on going with.

Even without a lot of context of the series, I can definitely see where people come from with the "weak entry" judgement.

I'm actually excited to try Berseria when I get a chance.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on March 18, 2017, 05:37:37 AM
Thanks to this thread (http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/arcanum-multiverse-edition.114150/) on RPG Codex, I downloaded the Arcanum "multiverse edition" (courtesy of russian modders; download link is in the quoted portion of the first post)  which is basically a repackaging of the original game (all the instructions included in the initial post are just to avoid saying "here is a repackaged, pirated version"), complete with all the patches, including the indispensable UAP by Drog Black Tooth. So, no more wandering around downloading from different websites while encountering dead links.

In the same thread, head to this post (http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/arcanum-multiverse-edition.114150/#post-5012980) for a fine quickstart that will let you try the game  out in no time (works flawlessly....as flawlessly as Arcanum can go :P).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on March 18, 2017, 09:15:56 AM
Does it work if I don't have it on Steam? No idea where my CD(s?) went but IIRC I played Arcanum before Steam was a thing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on March 18, 2017, 05:45:55 PM
Like I said, the download link IS the complete game, no need to have the original one (physical edition or any digital one from GOG or Steam) on the hard drive.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MahrinSkel on March 19, 2017, 01:36:35 AM
"Russian modders"? I suggest dropping your hard drive in a vat of acid. Actually, the whole computer might be a writeoff.

--Dave


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on March 19, 2017, 09:51:04 AM
What you mean, tovarisch? Russian modders is happy good time Joe A#1 go Yankees!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Zetor on March 22, 2017, 07:50:35 AM
After like 5 years of nothing since COH was shut down, NCSoft finally has some news about the IP! It's what the market wants, it's new and unique, it's... Statesman as a character in their MOBA (http://massivelyop.com/2017/03/21/master-x-master-announces-a-closed-beta-date-and-adds-city-of-heroes-statesman-to-its-roster/)

fuck


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on March 22, 2017, 07:53:02 AM
I didn't even know they had a MOBA.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on March 22, 2017, 07:54:36 AM
Wow, that's fucking stupid.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 22, 2017, 10:33:46 PM
Wut


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on March 23, 2017, 05:49:53 AM
I didn't even know they had a MOBA.

They don't, it's just going into closed beta now. The whole thing is a hilarious note on just how out of touch NCSoft remains with their market.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on March 23, 2017, 10:05:52 AM
Welcome to 2 years ago, when everyone tried and failed to do a MOBA to compete with LOL and only Steam and Blizzard managed to make it moderately successful?  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rattran on March 23, 2017, 10:35:48 AM
NCSoft late to the party is shocking. I'll be even more shocked when they cancel it right before openBeta as unfun uninspiring shifest clone.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on March 24, 2017, 02:19:28 AM
So, you upgrade all your flashpoints to level 70 veteran versions, removing the 'normal' modes and then you put in 'story modes' which are like normal modes, but not for all of them ?

And the upshot is I wander into a level 17 flashpoint and it's level 70 and we don't have the CC skills yet to even handle it and we die.

So we have to wait till 70, or later anyway, to do that one, even tho it's how we should progress.  And the next one with story mode is 29.  Sure, fast levelling means that's a minute away, but Come The Fuck On.

It's 2017 and games companies still shit the bed.

Swotor, by the way.   :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: apocrypha on March 25, 2017, 11:53:03 PM
Dunno if this is worth it's own thread. Starcraft Remastered (https://starcraft.com/en-us/) announced. From the looks of it, the exact same game in high res.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on March 26, 2017, 12:15:30 AM
Why ?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on March 26, 2017, 06:31:18 AM
Dunno if this is worth it's own thread. Starcraft Remastered (https://starcraft.com/en-us/) announced. From the looks of it, the exact same game in high res.

So, StarCraft 2, basically.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: apocrypha on March 26, 2017, 10:02:43 AM
Why ?

$?

That and Blizzard have now gone so far down the "iterate not innovate" path that they can't even help cannibalising their own IPs.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: El Gallo on March 26, 2017, 11:24:46 AM
Also, SC2 never caught on as an esport in Korea like SC1 did.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on March 26, 2017, 04:27:30 PM
I'll probably buy it. SC:BW was great; SC2 not so much.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sir T on March 26, 2017, 05:14:22 PM
So they are releasing SC with SC2 graphics?

Meh.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maledict on March 27, 2017, 09:31:41 AM
So they are releasing SC with SC2 graphics?

Meh.
You didn't read the announcement did you? ;-)

No, it's not SC with SC2 graphics. It's SC with SC graphics, turned hi-def. They are remastered versions of the original sprites, and are nothing at all like the graphics from SC2.

This is probably the most faithful remaster ever of a game I think - it is so perfectly replicating starcraft, but better.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 27, 2017, 10:19:34 AM
It's what they should've done with Diablo 2.

Fucking assholes.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on March 27, 2017, 04:36:53 PM
This is probably the most faithful remaster ever of a game I think - it is so perfectly replicating starcraft, but better.

The new Lucasarts adventure remasters (Monkey Island, Day of the Tentacle, Full Throttle etc.) seemed to handle that pretty well: here's the new hi-res game, but if you hit this button you can instantly switch back to the low res original if you want.

This one... I'm still on the fence about.  Hi res sprites, fine, sure.  But start talking about "revised dialogue" and new "comic book interludes" to give the story a "fresh coat of paint" and suddenly I'm getting nervous.  More and newer is not always better when it comes to storytelling.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 27, 2017, 07:42:03 PM
yeah

i really get my panties in a twist when they fuck with the non-gameplay portions of competitive strategy games

what are you going on about


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on March 28, 2017, 03:57:33 AM
It's what they should've done with Diablo 2.

Fucking assholes.
An HD re-release of Diablo 2 would probably cannibalize Diablo 3. I think Blizzard has realized that Starcraft 2 was stillborn as a competitive title and at this point is never going to take off.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on April 07, 2017, 04:10:16 PM
Apologies if this has been brought up elsewhere, but I didn't see it.

Sounds like The Secret World is being relaunched as Secret World Legends.  Allegedly they're making the game combat more "action RPG" like and it's going free to play.  The "MMO" tag is a bit iffy at this point, too... I'm not positive but the quotes I've seen paint it more in the vein of something like Diablo, a mostly single player experience or small group co-op.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on April 07, 2017, 04:59:03 PM
So they're completely scrapping the original MMO to relaunch it? I thought this was some parallel product or something.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jth on April 07, 2017, 11:20:24 PM
So they're completely scrapping the original MMO to relaunch it? I thought this was some parallel product or something.

It's a parallel product, kind of. They have said in interviews that the original TSW will stay playable as is for those who own it but no more updates coming, which I guess means it will be kept on minimal life support until they feel they can kill it off without pissing off too many people.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on April 08, 2017, 11:36:44 AM
To be honest, The Secret World, which really was a cool game, always worked better as a huge and wonderful co-op adventure game. While it sucks not to feel in a shared world anymore, the atmosphere of the quests was such that having other people jumping around in the areas you were carefully investigating a murder never felt particularly right. This could be an awesome re-release.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Xanthippe on April 10, 2017, 02:51:14 PM
A new Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic in the works? (https://www.pcgamesn.com/star-wars-knights-of-the-old-republic-3-kotor-3)

Quote
The news was reported via Liam Robertson’s excellent Patreon page, in which he uncovers details on abandoned and upcoming videogames.

In a Patreon exclusive podcast, via NeoGAF, Robertson reveals that BioWare Austin are now focused on creating Star Wars games.

“I’ve learned now that [BioWare Austin is] pretty much now exclusively working on Star Wars games and they’re going to be doing that for the indefinite future,” he said. “What they’re currently working on right now - and I have this on good authority - is a sort of remake/revival of Knights of the Old Republic.”

However, the state of the game isn’t known. It’s unclear if the scope has expanded or not.

“I don’t know when this is set to come out, but it has been in development for a little while now,” he explained. “I don’t really know how that game’ll end up. I’ve heard that it isn’t exactly a remake anymore, but it started as a remake/revival. Now it’s kind of going from that blueprint in sort of its own original thing. I guess we’ll see what that turns out to be, but they are prototyping it right now.”


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on April 10, 2017, 03:40:56 PM
BioWare Austin still exists?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on April 10, 2017, 03:48:30 PM
Yah. I won't get excited for this until it's out and verified by multiple trusted sources that it's not garbage. Cynical nostalgia farming has become somewhat of a sore spot for me. 

If the official press release says four planets, open world, Revan, or HK-47: be afraid.





Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on April 10, 2017, 07:40:11 PM
An open world KOTOR would be horrible. That game was the epitome of "the tunnel" type of gaming done right.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on April 10, 2017, 08:10:48 PM
BioWare Austin still exists?

Minus guys like Vogel and Walton who left right around when SWTOR launched which I'm sure was for the best. In fact as mentioned in the ME:A thread they even got Drew Karpyshyn back a couple years ago (he was lead writer on KOTOR and the first two ME games and left for a few years not too long after SWTOR's launch I think).  James Ohlen who was lead design on the Baldur's Gate games, KOTOR, Jade Empire, and one of the Leads on Dragon Age is still there as well. They were working on that Shadow Realms game for a while which ended up getting canceled, presumably to focus on this if it ends up being true.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on April 10, 2017, 08:15:07 PM
BioWare Austin still exists?

Minus guys like Vogel and Walton who left right around when SWTOR launched which I'm sure was for the best. In fact as mentioned in the ME:A thread they even got Drew Karpyshyn back a couple years ago (he was lead writer on KOTOR and the first two ME games and left for a few years not too long after SWTOR's launch I think).  James Ohlen who was lead design on the Baldur's Gate games, KOTOR, Jade Empire, and one of the Leads on Dragon Age is still there as well. They were working on that Shadow Realms game for a while which ended up getting canceled, presumably to focus on this if it ends up being true.
That's great and all, but EA has a strict policy against making good games.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on April 11, 2017, 05:58:56 AM
Their output in the last several years hasn't been particularly noteworthy that's true. People seemed to like Titanfall 2 and Battlefield 1 well enough but those aren't generally the kind of games I play. That said, if they announced a new Fight Night or Skate I'd probably be unjustifiably optimistic about them.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on April 11, 2017, 08:13:12 AM
EA is just the publisher of Titanfall 2 -- Respawn Entertainment is still an independent studio (for now).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Zetor on April 27, 2017, 08:37:59 AM
God-Emperor Julian Gollop (Laser Squad, original XCOM, Chaos Reborn, etc) is making a game called Phoenix Point. It looks suspiciously like XCOM:Apocalypse without the suck: a much more involved strategy layer than the XCOM remakes, multiple human factions, encroaching alien biomass that mutates according to player actions, the works... normally this kind of nostalgia-pandering megaproject would go on Kickstarter, but (PLOT TWIST) it's on Fig instead! Which is totally different, obv.

Project link (https://www.fig.co/campaigns/phoenix-point)

I guess the outcome of this project will show whether we have reached Peak XCOM. The promise of XCOM:Apoc done right certainly triggered my impulse-buy reflexes, but even as a worst-case scenario, we'll learn just how big of a market remains for tactical_turn_based_alien_shooting_game_with_a_strategic_layer_of_some_sort!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 28, 2017, 08:45:28 PM
Vehicles are starting to look good in testing for Zomboid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Fhc2WwYpyI


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on May 03, 2017, 05:59:17 PM
Where the Water tastes like Wine. Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLwbki0MGx4


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on May 03, 2017, 07:20:26 PM
Darksiders 3 announced.  I loved the first two, but it's been five years and one bankruptcy since DS2 so I'm feeling a bit nervous.

Reveal trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-QgJ-EFq7A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-QgJ-EFq7A)

Doesn't really do it for me so far.  Not crazy about Fury's model, her face looks a bit too Pixar to me.  I guess we'll see.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on May 04, 2017, 09:30:44 AM
My understanding is this announcement was forced by an Amazon fuckup.  Basically they posted the pre-order page.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Druzil on May 04, 2017, 10:49:43 AM
I love Darksiders but Darksiders 2 was really disappointing to me.  Until I see some game play that proves otherwise I'm going to be skeptical of this one.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on May 13, 2017, 10:56:52 AM
Alan Wake is due to be removed from digital stores this weekend, due to all the music licenses expiring. As such, apparently Steam is selling it for three bucks American until it's pulled.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on May 13, 2017, 01:02:36 PM
Three bucks is about $2.99 more than it's worth.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ard on May 13, 2017, 10:16:55 PM
For real.  This is one of the very, very few games I regret spending money on at all.  I bought it way before refunds were a thing sadly.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on May 14, 2017, 07:39:24 AM
Rumor: IO Interactive will keep the rights to the Hitman franchise post sale and Season 2 is still on.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on May 17, 2017, 04:23:55 AM
You can now get the remaster of Phantom Dust for free on the Windows app store (or on the Xbox One as well if you have one) if you're into that sort of thing. Downloaded it but haven't had time to mess around with it yet since I've been playing Injustice 2 today.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 18, 2017, 07:58:49 PM
I'm into that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on June 08, 2017, 09:15:19 AM
Apparently, Kim Jong-Un,  russians someone managed to obtain a few internal files belonging to CD Projekt RED (among which, some pertaining to Cyberpunk 2077) and demanded a ransom:

https://twitter.com/CDPROJEKTRED/status/872840969795899394

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBz0JG7XUAAyoOs.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on June 08, 2017, 07:21:26 PM
Battleborn is going f2p, at least for the multiplayer portion.  I don't think they had much of a choice since they really shit the bed releasing at the same time as Overwatch, which curb stomped Battleborn hard.

http://www.mmorpg.com/battleborn/news/free-trial-features-unlimited-competitive-experience-1000044464


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on June 20, 2017, 01:03:42 AM
New expansion for Darkest Dungeon with vampires.

Anyone planning on getting it and then helping me plan if I should get it ?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on June 21, 2017, 02:14:05 PM
I'm planning on getting it once I no longer have a job.  Is that good enough?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on June 21, 2017, 02:24:21 PM
 :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on June 23, 2017, 08:05:49 AM
It must be opposite day for Yegolev.  Again.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rattran on June 23, 2017, 08:00:20 PM
Every day is opposite day for Yeg.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on June 23, 2017, 08:16:40 PM
Except opposite day, of course.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: DevilsAdvocate25 on June 26, 2017, 12:33:39 PM
Just a heads up, Playstation is having a Flash Sale.

I got Lords of the Fallen for $3. So far, it's a challenging game that scratches my loot gathering, monster killing itch.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on June 26, 2017, 03:56:01 PM
http://www.nintendo.com/super-nes-classic

I can't wait to not be able to buy one! It'll be so fun not finding one for my sister to buy my nephew as well! Yay. Go Nintendo.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on June 26, 2017, 06:31:53 PM
It will be even better not having access to those titles on my Switch - what's the upper limit on all 21 games' memory, like 150mb?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on June 27, 2017, 09:42:27 AM
The whole SNES library is about 2.5 Gig give or take, including multiple versions of the same game per region. The average game size was 48 MBit or 6 Megabyte


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on June 27, 2017, 09:43:41 AM
Also the first preorder batch of the SNES Classic was available today and is already mega sold out.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on June 27, 2017, 10:00:49 AM
My SNES is still up and running. Glad I don't have to try and find one should I want to play Zelda again. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on June 27, 2017, 10:28:00 AM
I wonder if the SNES games will also be ROMs Nintendo downloaded off the Internet, like they did with the NES Classic Edition. The hanker group that jail broke the NES mini checked the ROM headers of the included games and found that some were straight from popular ROM collections.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on June 27, 2017, 02:10:10 PM
I wonder if the SNES games will also be ROMs Nintendo downloaded off the Internet, like they did with the NES Classic Edition. The hanker group that jail broke the NES mini checked the ROM headers of the included games and found that some were straight from popular ROM collections.

Seems fair.   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on June 27, 2017, 10:17:35 PM
Is there anything on this machine worth getting that cannot already be had via a Wii, WiiU or Switch?  In other words, I don't get it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on June 28, 2017, 01:12:32 PM
I believe that there is something particular about the version of Star Fox 2 on the device.  Something along the lines of "it's the complete finished version of the game" or somesuch.

I also don't get why they don't sell one with the entire library on it for about $100.  I might actually consider that.  Assuming that Nintendo produced enough that I could find one in a store, and not on Amazon/Ebay for 3x what they paid for it.

Like that Animal Crossing 3DS I wanted to buy for my wife, but never saw outside of Amazon as a resale. #notbittertoitallybitter


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on June 29, 2017, 12:16:18 PM
I also don't get why they don't sell one with the entire library on it for about $100.  I might actually consider that.  Assuming that Nintendo produced enough that I could find one in a store, and not on Amazon/Ebay for 3x what they paid for it.
This what I don't get about these classic systems. The games are not large, and yet they're missing tons of games including first party stuff that they sell on other platforms (so there should be no license issues). There are so many emulation devices out there though, that play more than just 1 system and that you can get for the same or lower price. You're not even going to hurt Nintendo's bottom line by buying one, because these things will be sold out until they are discontinued anyway.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on June 29, 2017, 04:06:43 PM
I also don't get why they don't sell one with the entire library on it for about $100.  I might actually consider that.  Assuming that Nintendo produced enough that I could find one in a store, and not on Amazon/Ebay for 3x what they paid for it.
This what I don't get about these classic systems. The games are not large, and yet they're missing tons of games including first party stuff that they sell on other platforms (so there should be no license issues). There are so many emulation devices out there though, that play more than just 1 system and that you can get for the same or lower price. You're not even going to hurt Nintendo's bottom line by buying one, because these things will be sold out until they are discontinued anyway.

I suspect the thinking is that people aren't buying these to play the games on them, they're buying them to own them.  They're not really consumer goods, they're collectibles.  There's probably a half dozen people on this board alone who could write a decent emulator for a few grand if Nintendo was really interested in selling Punch Out on, say, the PC (the way Sega and Capcom do) and they wouldn't have issues with people going "why doesn't this include Chrono Trigger" or whatever.  But I suspect that there's a significant line of the corporate-think there that believes the Wii was so successful partly because it was so hard to get a hold of, and wants to force that to happen again.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on June 30, 2017, 05:08:39 AM
The collectibles aspect is exactly it; only the question is 'why aren't Nintendo pricing them higher or producing more to meet demand?'  Nintendo is bad at even this aspect of understanding consumers.

It's like it's a company run by a bunch of Japanese Geeks who don't understand consumerism.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on June 30, 2017, 07:02:42 AM
The collectibles aspect is exactly it; only the question is 'why aren't Nintendo pricing them higher or producing more to meet demand?'  Nintendo is bad at even this aspect of understanding consumers.

It's like it's a company run by a bunch of Japanese Geeks who don't understand consumerism.
Right. If they were $400 they would probably still sell out, and at least everyone would know they were collector's items.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on August 07, 2017, 07:43:38 PM
So of course the Shadows of Mordor sequel is going to not only have cash microtransactions, but basically microtransactions you have to buy if you don't want to play through a fuckton of padding and bloat that no one will enjoy.

This industry is really broken.

"Hi, the movie you're going to see today has some terrible long scenes that no one in the test audiences liked, but if you want to pay $10 more you can see the one that's tightly edited and fun!" Though when I think on it, that is a bit like Jackson's Hobbit movies....


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on August 07, 2017, 09:57:44 PM
It put the game from guaranteed first day purchase to wait and see how this all shakes out for me. I had the same realization about Fortnite after playing for a week. Such a good game that is covered in shameless attempts to milk the player.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on August 07, 2017, 10:21:32 PM
Shame, that was a day one purchase. Loot boxes are fine in multiplayer primary games. This, not so much. I'm sure it'll do wonders for the immersion and atmosphere of the game as well.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on August 08, 2017, 04:49:08 AM
"Look, these people have read the Silmarillion, for god's sake, they're fine with long, dull, somewhat repetitive content..."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on August 08, 2017, 11:06:42 AM
Hey, need an advice: I took (admittedly) a superficial look at Titanfall 2, The Division, Warframe and Destiny 2. Now, I'll keep reading, but can someone please explain what are the main differences and if any of them is worth it? Thanks :)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on August 08, 2017, 01:39:06 PM
Warframe is free, start there. It's also the most different, as it's faster gameplay, parkour guns and swords.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on August 09, 2017, 03:24:06 PM
Shame, that was a day one purchase. Loot boxes are fine in multiplayer primary games.

I hate them in pretty much every game, but in free to play games at least they're a necessary evil.  Coming out of a box I already paid for, they can fuck right off (looking at you, Overwatch).  I'd rather pay an extra $10 upfront if it meant not having to deal with this carrot-on-a-stick crap constantly, but of course THAT'S not an option because then you can't wring thousands out of the 1% of your player base that is willing to pay.

But yeah, this moved the game from "day 1 buy" to "oh, right, Warner Brothers, I forgot... I'll get it in 6 months when it's $10 with all the DLC packed in and the inevitable launch fiasco has been patched"


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: patience on August 11, 2017, 02:34:47 AM
Superbunnyhop touches on a rarely discussed topic, How game companies benefit from tax evasion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFKnv1YzI3k


He brings up some interesting facts such as one of the chief architects for Netherlands existing rules, Alexander Hent has been working for Activision Blizzard for awhile. He also brings up some interesting implications that many game companies aren't making fewer games simply because of the huge risk in making new IP but in addition they are gaining so much more revenue and mildly steadily decreasing costs by relying more on microtransactions.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on August 14, 2017, 02:25:51 PM
Shame, that was a day one purchase. Loot boxes are fine in multiplayer primary games. This, not so much. I'm sure it'll do wonders for the immersion and atmosphere of the game as well.  :oh_i_see:

Jim Sterling has a good take on this calling it Shadow of More Dollars :awesome_for_real:.  Best and most accurate line about micro transactions "Invent a problem, sell a solution".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TXWdyrqFP8


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on September 04, 2017, 05:39:59 AM
Didn't think it needed it's own thread, but for those that care...

Secret of Mana remake (for the PS4, Vita, and Steam/PC) gameplay footage looks pretty tight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKbqzL1YN6Y


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Druzil on September 05, 2017, 07:00:17 AM
I have a huge amount of Secret of Mana nostalgia, I'd love to go through it again.  It's probably one of the games I played the most on my SNES.  That said, $40 is pretty high for a graphical remaster.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on September 05, 2017, 12:00:00 PM
I'd pay MORE for the original style than I would for a graphical remaster.  I don't know why Square insists on fucking with these old titles... the new graphics for FF5 and 6 are worse than the originals, and FF3 and 4 are done in this weird "originally developed for the 3DS" polygon style which doesn't look HORRIBLE but definitely doesn't look cutting edge on the PC.

I guess they are hoping to bank on something other than nostalgia, but at least give us the OPTION to look at the old, "outdated" graphics if we want, like the Lucasarts adventure game remakes.  Or, if you're going to say "fuck nostalgia" at least make the graphics look good on their own, not done in this weird half modern, half nostalgia, weak compromise style that pleases nobody.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on September 05, 2017, 03:46:59 PM
$40 is a bit much, but I'm hopeful that being a remake means they'll retouch the godawful controls and combat.

I don't mind the graphics.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Druzil on September 06, 2017, 06:43:18 AM
I mostly agree on the graphics, FF3 and 4 remakes were totally unplayable for me.  The 2.5D thing is just really off putting, it doesn't even feel like the same game.  I just go back and played the PS1 versions instead.  Those versions are still great and have little added features that make them slightly better than playing the originals.  The FF6 remake I did get used to and it was fine.  It was a little odd at first but it kind of works and everything outside of the character art is mostly the same.  I went though FF5 one time and don't ever plan on doing it again so I skipped that remake.

I haven't seen enough of the new Mana to judge yet but the little I saw it at least looked ok.  If they want to redo all of the art I'm fine with it as long as the style is similar and feels like it honors the original (not like FF3/4).  A toggle for the new/old style sprites seems like the ideal version though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on September 06, 2017, 06:51:06 AM
Agreed on that awful 3DS graphical style; I don't like it on 3DS and it has no place on PC.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bunk on September 06, 2017, 05:16:51 PM
Ok, who wants a PAX exclusive LOL Sivir (whatever that is) skin code? Someone that actually plays and will use it please.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 06, 2017, 05:33:14 PM
If you send it to me I'll give it to my friend that is still hardcore. Won't use it myself though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on September 07, 2017, 08:19:49 AM
I still play though I don't necessarily play Sivir much.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on September 07, 2017, 11:23:40 PM
Walking Dead season 1 (https://www.humblebundle.com/store/the-walking-dead-season-1#) free at Humble Store for the next 34 hours or so.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 10, 2017, 06:58:53 PM
PewDiePie is a casual racist. Which is probably the best fucking news I've heard in gaming in five years.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 10, 2017, 09:36:02 PM
I don't know -- it sounds like his Nazi stuff was decidedly non-casual.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on September 10, 2017, 10:09:11 PM
PewDiePie is a casual racist. Which is probably the best fucking news I've heard in gaming in five years.

I'm not really seeing cause for celebration here.  Last I saw, he was the most popular channel on all of Youtube, they're not going to kick him off or fuck with his revenue stream in any way since they'd lose money on it too.  His fans are probably mostly going to paint him as a brave rebel standing up to those accursed SJWs, just like what happened with JonTron.  It's not like this is the first time PewDiePie has said some dumb shit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on September 11, 2017, 05:32:14 PM
Not sure if you're aware, but YouTube ad revenue is in the toilet nowadays due to YT kowtowing to advertisers and de-monetizing anything that YT doesn't consider advertiser-friendly enough.

He's still worth millions, but his revenue stream's probably taken as big of a hit as everyone else has.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Morat20 on September 11, 2017, 05:46:44 PM
So, random question -- I'm feeling a bit of the football bug, so if I wanted to pick up a football (the American type) game, what's out there (PS4 wise) worth playing? I'll even take Madden, although unless the "current" iteration has some amazing new feature, frankly I'd buy last years or the year befores version.

I really don't have to have the current lineup, nor really want it.

Honestly, I'd prefer one where I set lineups, plays, etc and left the actual "catching and running and throwing" bits to the PS4 because I suck at it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on September 11, 2017, 07:21:11 PM
There isn't really an NFL game that does the manager/coaching part and leaves off the actual playing. I bought Madden 2017 (last year's version) used when I bought my PS4 recently and it's good. It's still Madden, which means it's a bit arcade-y (though not as much as the last version I played 3-5 years ago), it puts way too much emphasis on presentation but at least it lets you skip through a lot of the talking head pre-game, halftime and post-game that it tries to shove down your throat. The Ultimate Team game is basically football where you draft a team by buying micro-transaction booster packs like Magic The Gathering (though you don't have to pay real money, that's the only way to get the best players without playing a shitton with shitty players) and it's definitely OCD gamer collector itch scratcher.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on September 12, 2017, 04:11:37 AM
I believe the 2k franchise mode could do that. Run the team, set up playbooks, sim the games themselves.

Fucking EA.

And I'm finally coming around to buying a console for Madden, after all these years. The least they could do would be releasing a current-engine/roster PC version ffs. I'd even buy it on Origin. I wonder about the supposed cross-platforminess of XBoneX but I have a feeling that's going to be 1st party titles only.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on September 12, 2017, 07:41:57 AM
I still can't figure out why EA won't release a PC version of Madden. They do it for FIFA and in some cases, the PC version of FIFA isn't a port, it's almost a different game entirely. FFS, they make Madden on the goddamn phones and tablets now.

The 2K football games were just the fucking tits. 2k3 is still one of the greatest football games I've ever played, with that first-person mode. That one game mode was the most incredible experience (though the 2k4 version wasn't quite as good) in a sports game I've ever had. I would shank a bitch to see that on my PS4.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on September 12, 2017, 08:09:01 AM
Not sure if you're aware, but YouTube ad revenue is in the toilet nowadays due to YT kowtowing to advertisers and de-monetizing anything that YT doesn't consider advertiser-friendly enough.

I wasn't aware.  Is this bad news for my planned-but-unexecuted GoPro Cooking Show?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on September 12, 2017, 09:18:40 AM
2k3 is still one of the greatest football games I've ever played, with that first-person mode. That one game mode was the most incredible experience (though the 2k4 version wasn't quite as good) in a sports game I've ever had. I would shank a bitch to see that on my PS4.
I think if they can sort out movement some day, VR football would be pretty amazing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on September 12, 2017, 11:30:04 AM
2k3 is still one of the greatest football games I've ever played, with that first-person mode. That one game mode was the most incredible experience (though the 2k4 version wasn't quite as good) in a sports game I've ever had. I would shank a bitch to see that on my PS4.
I think if they can sort out movement some day, VR football would be pretty amazing.

It's there for more stationary roles (Quarterback).

Also - there's a real fun game where you do headers in soccer.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on September 12, 2017, 11:43:22 AM
I would play the shit out of a pure (american) football management sim; do you  think that the potential gaming audience would be THAT lower (numerically) and less profitable compared to FM or Out of the Park (baseball) ? Infact, it's strange that no software house tried to build one, yet.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on September 12, 2017, 12:12:10 PM
There actually IS a football management sim on the PC. Front Office Football Seven (http://store.steampowered.com/app/344340/Front_Office_Football_Seven/) is one of them (I think the Front Page Sports Football has one as well). They just aren't affiliated with the NFL because of EA's monopoly shit and I can't tell you if they are any good or not. I haven't been brave enough to try them. They look more like OOTP than FM - spreadsheet game without the personality of FM.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on September 12, 2017, 12:33:56 PM
There actually IS a football management sim on the PC. Front Office Football Seven (http://store.steampowered.com/app/344340/Front_Office_Football_Seven/) is one of them (I think the Front Page Sports Football has one as well). They just aren't affiliated with the NFL because of EA's monopoly shit and I can't tell you if they are any good or not. I haven't been brave enough to try them. They look more like OOTP than FM - spreadsheet game without the personality of FM.

Yeah sorry, I should have mentioned that because I actually know of its existence: I think the seventh chapter is more of a roster update of the earlier games (first one came out in 1998, I think). Anyway, last November a new one came out (Office Eight):

http://store.steampowered.com/app/547900/Front_Office_Football_Eight/

From what I read, tho, it's more..."abstract" (in terms of micromanagement and realism) than OOTP or FM and the text only match commentary doesn't help (the text commentary of the earlier CM games was another thing). So yeah, I'll wait for a bit more "flashy" sim, or at least with a 2D engine.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Morat20 on September 13, 2017, 04:47:56 PM
I would play the shit out of a pure (american) football management sim; do you  think that the potential gaming audience would be THAT lower (numerically) and less profitable compared to FM or Out of the Park (baseball) ? Infact, it's strange that no software house tried to build one, yet.
It Out of the Park any good?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nebu on September 13, 2017, 06:48:50 PM
It Out of the Park any good?

Aspects of it, yes.  If you're a fan of Bill James, you'll really enjoy OOTP.  It's a great spreadsheet sim of baseball in a digestible package.  The only suggestion I'd give is that you have to have enough self discipline to avoid the parts of the game that are exploitable (ex: trades).  If you can do that, it's a very fun game with a lot of replay value.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on September 13, 2017, 07:49:15 PM
It's very much spreadsheet baseball. There's little graphical oomph to it and not really any personality either. It's a really good baseball sim but these days I compare every sports type sim to either NBA 2k Live (whatever the latest version is), Madden or Football Manager. The first two have the shiney, the last one has the personality on top of strategy and spreadsheet-y goodness.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Morat20 on September 14, 2017, 06:45:04 AM
By brother is, bluntly put, a baseball nerd. His birthday is coming up, so....it seems like a potential gift.

He's a fan of simulation games. Not sure how he'd take to spreadsheet baseball. Have to consider that a bit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on September 14, 2017, 10:08:25 AM
As long as he doesn't care too much about graphics, OOTP is the shit for baseball.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nebu on September 14, 2017, 10:09:32 AM
As long as he doesn't care too much about graphics, OOTP is the shit for baseball.

I agree 100%.  As a baseball fan, I'd be quite happy to get OOTP as a gift.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Druzil on September 15, 2017, 06:39:45 AM
Titanfall 2 is $11.99 on PSN store right now if you have PS+  Pretty good deal even if you just want to do the campaign.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on September 17, 2017, 07:26:02 PM
Aaaand it looks like Battleborn is all but done.

https://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/t/a-message-from-randy-varnell/1637649


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on September 17, 2017, 08:39:42 PM
Aaaand it looks like Battleborn is all but done.

https://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/t/a-message-from-randy-varnell/1637649

Not exactly surprising, but still sad.  There were a ton of great ideas in there buried under a mountain of implementation issues.  I LOVE the idea of FPS Dota, I hope the fate of Battleborn doesn't scare other companies from trying it again.  The whole "PvE with crazy FPS characters" concept is one I really like, too, was probably the best thing about the game to me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Severian on September 21, 2017, 09:59:33 PM
I posted this in Steam deals, but for more visibility because time is short: 

Outlast Deluxe Edition is free on Humble Bundle for the next 36 hours. 
https://www.humblebundle.com/store/outlast-deluxe 

If you want that on Steam you'll have until October 7th at 10:00 AM Pacific to redeem the keys, after that they disappear.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 21, 2017, 10:12:38 PM
I wasn't even granted steam keys on that one.

As I said that, it was populated.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samprimary on September 22, 2017, 07:53:17 AM
That game, unfortunately, would have struggled a bit even if they hadn't had the gaming industry's most unfortunate timing ever, accidentally waltzing into the ring right as Blizzard throws in its juggernaut a-game and the frustrations and worldbuilding of years of repurposed franchise work.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on September 22, 2017, 06:42:21 PM
The handful of people I know that bothered playing it said it was a bunch of half-interesting ideas buried under a terrible UI and awful writing/visual/audio design.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on September 22, 2017, 08:01:07 PM
Then free sounds about right.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on September 23, 2017, 06:28:09 AM
Are Sam and Fab talking about Outlast or Battleborn?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samprimary on September 23, 2017, 08:13:03 AM
battleborn on my part.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on September 24, 2017, 02:02:32 AM
I was confused as well.  I downloaded Outlast because it is both free and highly regarded.  But I am way too much of a pussy, I think, to actually play it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on September 28, 2017, 07:27:11 AM
Gonna camp GameStop and try to get a SNES classic tomorrow.

Yes, I know, I can emulate the shit out of all the games right now.

No, I don't care.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on September 28, 2017, 11:12:01 AM
I was confused as well.  I downloaded Outlast because it is both free and highly regarded.  But I am way too much of a pussy, I think, to actually play it.

I tried this game and I also seem to be too much of a pussy.  I don't know why, exactly, but this game scares the shit out of me.  I can't even.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on September 28, 2017, 11:13:24 AM
Gonna camp GameStop and try to get a SNES classic tomorrow.

Yes, I know, I can emulate the shit out of all the games right now.

No, I don't care.  :why_so_serious:

Hey, man, I have a couple (non-working) SNES and a NES and a Genesis gathering dust... no judgements here.

I think I have a CRT TV buried somewhere just for the purpose of connecting that RF converter.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Zetor on October 11, 2017, 10:06:48 PM
Looks like we may be getting a REAL sequel to Star Control 2, after all! link to press release-like-thing (https://dogarandkazon.squarespace.com/)



I wonder if Toys for Bob will do a kickstarter or just use their truckloads of Skylanders cash to do this thing. In any case, Juffo-Wup fills in my fibers and I grow turgid.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 11, 2017, 10:21:38 PM
Huh

Will play.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Father mike on October 12, 2017, 11:17:01 AM
Looks like development stopped years ago, but there was a fan project to get Ur-Quan Masters working on modern OSes

http://sc2.sourceforge.net/ (http://sc2.sourceforge.net/)

I know that it will download, install , run, and play for at least 10 whole minutes under Win10.  Beyond that, you're on your own.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on October 12, 2017, 11:41:26 AM
Why wouldn't you just run it in Dosbox?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 12, 2017, 01:28:55 PM
I somehow have Ur-Quan on my MBP.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ezrast on October 13, 2017, 05:09:40 PM
Humble Bundle to have component parts slowly consumed by join forces with IGN. (http://blog.humblebundle.com/post/166366386976/humble-bundle-is-joining-forces-with-ign)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 13, 2017, 07:41:53 PM
Lol ign still exists

K


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on October 14, 2017, 09:58:33 PM
Lol ign still exists

K

It's a weird combo.  Humble Bundle, which is kinda supposed to champion the indie scene, and IGN, which has often been shills for the big gaming companies, don't seem like a natural fit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 14, 2017, 10:17:08 PM
Humblebundle has been a bit of a dumping ground for the last two years or so. Squeezing that tiny last bit of blood from a stone.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on October 14, 2017, 10:58:25 PM
Humble expanded from a neat bundle idea, to a nearly constant pile of bundles with junk in it, to a store that no one hardly buys anything from, and then to a monthly subscription service.

Basically it has suffered the same fate as Woot did under Amazon.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 14, 2017, 11:00:50 PM
Woot is a good comparison. Really though, its literally any company that grew for no good goddamn reason.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on October 15, 2017, 02:48:04 PM
The Humble Monthly is a pretty good deal IMO.  Though at this point, I have like 500+ games in my Steam library, most of which I'll probably never play.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on October 16, 2017, 10:04:24 PM
So I guess Fractured But Whole (South Park) comes out today.  Supposedly as good or better than Stick of Truth, so day one purchase for me.  If I can figure out which system I want it one (PC or PS4?) I might hurry up and pre-order to get Towlie as my buddy!

For the record, Stick of Truth is one of my favorite games of the last 5 or 6 years.  Decent as an RPG, and basically looks and feels like playing a 20 hour episode of the TV show.  Played it through twice, and will probably do so again at some point.  I think you can even a free copy if you order FBW.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on October 17, 2017, 02:22:17 PM
EA Killed Visceral Studio which is pretty much par for the course. Two good games in DS1/2, then EA fucked up DS3, shunted them to a one-off filler Battlefield title, then killed them off. Woo, fuck EA.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on October 17, 2017, 02:28:20 PM
To be fair, that one-off Battlefield title (Hardline) sucked REALLY  HARD.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on October 17, 2017, 05:07:17 PM
As a bonus, this kills off a Star Wars adventure game by the producer/designer of the first 3 Uncharted games.  :sad_panda: They'll probably use the assets in some sort of Destiny rip off loaded down with pre-order bonuses, DLC, and pay-to-win microtransactions up the wazoo.

To be fair, that one-off Battlefield title (Hardline) sucked REALLY  HARD.

There was no way that game could have ever been good, especially if you just throw some team on it that's done nothing remotely similar.

I give the remains of Bioware 6 months post their next underwhelming release, then it's into the woodchipper.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 17, 2017, 05:21:00 PM
EA Killed Visceral Studio which is pretty much par for the course. Two good games in DS1/2, then EA fucked up DS3, shunted them to a one-off filler Battlefield title, then killed them off. Woo, fuck EA.

To be fair, they had one good idea.

Dead Space.

Fuck the sequels. When a studio is made because they have a single idea, that studios future is already sealed.

I'm excited to see Riot fuck up their next game even though LOL will keep them afloat forever.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on October 17, 2017, 05:21:07 PM
There was no way that game could have ever been good, especially if you just throw some team on it that's done nothing remotely similar.

I was going to make that arguement, but their wikipedia page lists a few 007 games and an Army of Two sequel, so they've made shooters before.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 17, 2017, 05:26:39 PM
Bad games are bad.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on October 17, 2017, 06:23:34 PM
Dead Space 2 was really good IMO even with some of the dumber twists to it. DS3 had an insanely dumb plot but I got through it- the ingame purchases must be for complete idiots because I just fucked around and destroyed the game on normal difficulty.

I give the remains of Bioware 6 months post their next underwhelming release, then it's into the woodchipper.
Basically Anthem is going to need to do extremely fucking well. I have this feeling their best case scenario is that it basically is like The Division where it sells insanely fucking well for a short period of time and then EVERYONE drops it the instant they run through all the content once.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on October 17, 2017, 08:02:54 PM
I'm excited to see Riot fuck up their next game even though LOL will keep them afloat forever.

Why would they make a next game and take the chance on draining resources from their cash cow?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 17, 2017, 10:58:50 PM
Because they are and for some reason they have 4000 employees or some shit when less than 50 would do.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on October 18, 2017, 02:50:20 AM
The press release by EA is some of the most cynical paragraphs of bullshit I've ever read.

It boils down to "we realized we wanted a shitty MMO loot-box-o-rama, where we can milk the players for years while providing no content". Or in short: we want to make the same shitload of money Destiny and Overwatch make and we're holding the most promising property hostage for that.

It would be naive at that point to hope that all games that contain what is essentially a slot machine only vastly shittier crash and burn (at least with a slot machine I can potentially win something valuable like money and payouts and the RNG properties are regulated and regularly checked). Also that the companies making them go out of business. Overwatch and Destiny show that people have no qualms to spend billions on useless virtual fluff if the loot box opening animation is shiny enough even when the game is boring players to death (see Destiny).

God but I'd sure celebrate the day when either Activision, EA or Bungie finally crash and burn when one of their billion dollar excuses to sell you randomized loot fails hard.

The most likely outcome will be that the loot box and randomized "please insert your CC info here" fake game experiences will get so egregious over the next years (a process that has already started) that it will get shut down by some regulatory body. Most likely in China and the EU. Pandering online gambling to minors will be the issue here, also the fact that all of the properties of the loot box systems are opaque, could change at any moment and are not regulated.

(see Activision's patent on providing players a shittier online experience when they don't buy item boxes to "incetivize them" for the possible path this will take over the next years).

I fully expect every game that is made by a large publisher (except Nintendo, maybe) to be build from the ground up around loot box or other casino mechanics going forward in an endless procession of "even shittier than Clash of Clans or Candy Crush but still at $60" skinner boxes that pretend to be video games.

edit: the patent is by Activision not EA


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on October 18, 2017, 05:45:17 AM
The most likely outcome will be that the loot box and randomized "please insert your CC info here" fake game experiences will get so egregious over the next years (a process that has already started) that it will get shut down by some regulatory body. Most likely in China and the EU. Pandering online gambling to minors will be the issue here, also the fact that all of the properties of the loot box systems are opaque, could change at any moment and are not regulated.

(see Activision's patent on providing players a shittier online experience when they don't buy item boxes to "incetivize them" for the possible path this will take over the next years).

I fully expect every game that is made by a large publisher (except Nintendo, maybe) to be build from the ground up around loot box or other casino mechanics going forward in an endless procession of "even shittier than Clash of Clans or Candy Crush but still at $60" skinner boxes that pretend to be video games.

What's funny is this is EXACTLY the path I bitched about when DLC was becoming a thing 11 years ago with the Horse Armor and intro of DLC. Same with the current trend to only release half a game and make you buy it piecemeal as "DLC" or "Preorder Exclusives"!  People said I was ridiculous. That there's no way the industry would head here, and gamers would revolt. That Pay to Win wouldn't ever become a model, because who would play the games then?

How slowly that frog has boiled.

I said the same thing about loot boxes and these being essentially gambling. China already made the first move, demanding that the actual chances be posted and adhered to.  (which are what prompted some of Blizzard's loot box changes, apparently.)  I expect taxation of virtual goods to happen before we get actual controls on gambling.

Especially in the US where, despite a growing number of 45-year-olds playing games they're still regarded as "Kids things" and not worthy of real attention. Like minimum wage jobs, comics, and animation; when anything is "a kid thing" in the US, the collective conscience dismisses it as not being worthy of real attention. So no; we're not going to see any move towards controls and exposing the mechanics of randomization. Particularly not if companies make claims that doing so would expose their "not a lottery" system to hacking. A catch-all word that the technologically-illiterate just trust companies to know what they're talking about.

It'll take a real, hard, in-depth scandal to get any movement on this front in the EU or US. Billions of dollars scammed or the like. Even then it's likely to get a dismissive "Meh, only losers do that anyway" from the public.

Half-a-game releases, loot boxes and pay-to-win are only the tip of the spear now, though. We're going to see even more exploitation of fans and whales. Energy systems and timers are big in mobile, they're going to make their way into other games some how. Pay to recharge, pay to get more plays. Unlock this content.

Yeah, we're not far off from the "Insert verification can" future we once mocked as impossible.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on October 18, 2017, 07:14:23 AM
Did they add RMT lootboxes to Destiny 1? I do not remember anything besides the actual DLC packs that you could/had to pay for at launch.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 18, 2017, 07:44:37 AM
I'm still pretty much in the same boat as I was then about RMT or whatever we call it now. I just ignore it, and if a game's fun depends on it, I don't play it. The big moneymaker for GTA V is something I completely ignore. Sure, there's some cool stuff I wouldn't mind having in the single player game, but it doesn't detract from it. So we're not over that line yet, and I don't think we will be. The main thing would be to, you know, stop buying those "AAA" games.

I do agree it would be nice if video games could adapt to the reality of the demographic. I'm almost 50, my interests are not what they were when I was in my 20s. Give me some adult options for gaming (I don't mean VR porn, just some deeper stuff). I understand that the manbabies drawn to game development are incapable of maturity, it's rare enough in the general population, heh. But again, it goes back to people putting their money where their mouth is. If you keep buying the shit they're shoveling, there is no incentive to stop shoveling shit.

I could say the same about the need to grimdark every fucking tv show, but I digress.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Gimfain on October 18, 2017, 08:35:08 AM
When bioware announced day-1 dlc for Mass Effect 3 I decided not to buy it and the last EA game I got was Swtor. When I heard shadow of war would have an ingame cash shop I told myself not to touch the game. I generally stay away from f2p games. I haven't bough an early access game yet, its rare for me to pre-order games and I haven't bought a season pass on a game before I had played the base game.

I mostly play AA and other indie games.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 18, 2017, 09:18:32 AM
Did they add RMT lootboxes to Destiny 1? I do not remember anything besides the actual DLC packs that you could/had to pay for at launch.

It was added toward the end.  I believe when the prison was added.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on October 18, 2017, 09:34:10 AM
Yes, Destiny 1 has loot boxes in missions sometimes. I've found a few, and I don't have any of the expansions.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on October 18, 2017, 05:06:16 PM
I'm still pretty much in the same boat as I was then about RMT or whatever we call it now. I just ignore it, and if a game's fun depends on it, I don't play it.

That's pretty much where I'm at too.  RMT remains a hugely viable moneymaker because there are a lot of people who aren't as principled and levelheaded as we are, but I'm not gonna waste too much energy tilting at that windmill.  Let 'em fleece the suckers.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Selby on October 18, 2017, 05:33:31 PM
RMT remains a hugely viable moneymaker because there are a lot of people who aren't as principled and levelheaded as we are, but I'm not gonna waste too much energy tilting at that windmill.  Let 'em fleece the suckers.
Exactly.  I finished Candy Crush every week for over 2 years without paying a penny to them.  Got my money's worth out of the fun I had with it when I was bored and had nothing else to do (aka $0.00).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 19, 2017, 12:36:11 PM
Yes, Destiny 1 has loot boxes in missions sometimes. I've found a few, and I don't have any of the expansions.

This may be different than what was asked.  There are things that look like boxes in the game world that you can get shit from.  I think the question was if you could pay real money to get loot, and that is true.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 19, 2017, 12:38:54 PM
I'm not really concerned how other people spend their money.  Pay $500 per month for Candy Crush or HEX, or MtG cards, I don't care.  Why would I?  So far, I can still find new enjoyable games to play.  When I can't, I will just go back and finish my PS2 backlog.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on October 19, 2017, 12:43:23 PM
Looks like we may be getting a REAL sequel to Star Control 2, after all! link to press release-like-thing (https://dogarandkazon.squarespace.com/)



I wonder if Toys for Bob will do a kickstarter or just use their truckloads of Skylanders cash to do this thing. In any case, Juffo-Wup fills in my fibers and I grow turgid.
Note that there's another Star Control game in development called Star Control: Origins by Stardock. Don't get them confused.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on October 19, 2017, 12:53:21 PM
Yes, Destiny 1 has loot boxes in missions sometimes. I've found a few, and I don't have any of the expansions.

This may be different than what was asked.  There are things that look like boxes in the game world that you can get shit from.  I think the question was if you could pay real money to get loot, and that is true.
Yegolev has it right. Is the loot you can pay real money to get random? Because that's my definition of a loot box: something that costs real money and gives random rewards.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Draegan on October 20, 2017, 06:26:34 AM
Dlc or rmt or whatever doesn't bother me. It's not like I walk into a store and say I have to buy everything.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Gimfain on October 20, 2017, 08:42:01 AM
Games with microtransactions is the electric store with the annoying teenager where the boss said that he should try getting customers to buy additional things. The end result is that i go to a non-shitty store that helps me get what I want and not the shitty one that tries to convince me to buy everything else.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on October 21, 2017, 10:04:03 PM
Gaming-adjacent at best, but formerly-relevant gaming forum NeoGAF is in the middle of an implosion right now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 22, 2017, 07:08:39 AM
Gaming-adjacent at best, but formerly-relevant gaming forum NeoGAF is in the middle of an implosion right now.

Go on


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on October 22, 2017, 08:44:56 AM
Another sexual assault (more like super-autistic misread and handling of his chances with a drunk friend, but it's super creepy regardless) allegation (https://imgur.com/a/FJrjx) against Tyler Malka (site owner) surfaced a few days ago via a screencap from a private FB group.  Malka found out that a GAF user knew the accuser and was a potential source of the leaked FB group post where he was named and preemptively permabanned him apropos of nothing.

Now with no fucks to give, the user promptly went to the Bore and confirmed the accusation's legitimacy.  At some point it hits Twitter, and GAF goes full damage control, deleting users and posts about the topic and promising 'a statement is forthcoming'.

Shortly after that, all but one of the admins and the bulk of the active mods quit and/or are banned.  Rumor has it that they left because of Tyler's explanation of what happened, supposedly involving a love triangle and some sort of 'sex cult' (https://pastebin.com/p4Nqw1Lh).

Anyway, mods gone and a permanently offended userbase under the influence of the #metoo hashtag and its fallout means the users go HAM.  Forum collapsed under the strain of that and presumably a jillion rubberneckers wanting to see the tire fire in progress and eventually was taken down - it just 503s now.

Now it's hit mainstream media outlets (http://www.rollingstone.com/glixel/news/neogaf-offline-amidst-sex-assault-allegations-against-owner-w509871).  Also, the sheer size of the group celebrating the whole thing on Twitter is pretty remarkable.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on October 22, 2017, 09:37:47 AM
GAF could be a good gaming resource at times but was mostly a wretched hive of scum and villainy full of shitgoblins and edgelords. It’s no surprise that most people aren’t really sad it’s gone.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 22, 2017, 09:52:57 AM
yea fuck gaf


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 22, 2017, 09:53:30 AM
also guys

i think were the oldest gaming forum under continuous not retarded management


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Reg on October 22, 2017, 11:04:16 AM
Don't forget Stratics. Nobody here plays UO anymore but they're still out there hosting the UO community just like they always have. Or was there some takeover drama that I don't know about?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: patience on October 22, 2017, 12:05:32 PM
As far as gaming forums go NEOgaf was 1 of 2 I could say was staunchly progressive and liberal leaning. In certain ways it got annoying but it's still a way better experience then the average online interaction on other gaming related venues.

It still amazes me that during the 2016 election it gained enough relevance by becoming a top referrer to Hillary Clinton's website.

https://news.vice.com/article/racist-trolls-of-8chan-are-driving-traffic-to-donald-trumps-website


Tyler fucked up with how he handled this but there is no chance the site stays dead. There are too many sub communities built around the social environment no other forum or social media platform adequately provides for. The biggest problem is losing so many moderators at once and being forced to replacing them. If a lot of people refuse to volunteer their time moderating then this will be the factor that determines how much the website is diminished.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on October 22, 2017, 12:19:56 PM
My experience is more in line with Jeff's.  There were some good small sub-communities, but by and large, it was a shitshow.  Large parts of the place also went completely fucking insane in the run-up to the election and afterwards.

Someone was able to load and archive an image of the site from a CDN and confirmed that it's just him, an admin and the sysadmin (https://archive.is/N50zk) now and that they're busy locking, banning and deleting.

It'll be back eventually, but it's definitely going to be a smaller site for the foreseeable future.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 22, 2017, 08:23:38 PM
Don't forget Stratics. Nobody here plays UO anymore but they're still out there hosting the UO community just like they always have. Or was there some takeover drama that I don't know about?

Quote
After several changes of ownership, and a loud outcry from the Ultima Online community, Bazaaro Community, Inc., decided to rededicate the Stratics Brand to the UO community.[5] Removing all content for other games, the Stratics site started undergoing fundamental changes to refocus upon what made the site so popular in the beginning - structured participation of a single, passionate gaming community dedicated to Ultima Online.

In December 2015, Bazaaro Community, Inc., placed Stratics up for sale. Following a successful crowd funding campaign,[6] the website was purchased by a team consisting of several volunteer staff members who have organized to form Gamer's Gambit, LLC. which acts as the principal owner of Stratics.com and associated properties of that domain.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Zetor on October 22, 2017, 09:38:12 PM
I totally read that as Bazooko Community, Inc.  :why_so_serious:

Gone Gold / Octopus Overlords maybe? OO itself is about the same age as f13, but I don't know if the Gone Gold management carried over or if it was more like a waterthread -> f13 transition. Other than that there's qt3 and rpgcodex, though I'm not sure if they meet your definition of non-retarded  :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 22, 2017, 10:38:39 PM
Q23 is really the broken forum now and q23 itself is basically sentient down syndrome. Looks like Tom pulls in $1500 a month from his Patreon. Thats nice. Is likely to provide more entertainment than Star Citizen.

It looks like we predate OO by about 8 months (october 2004 is the oldest member date there I can find).

Technically speaking Joe is still with us, speaking of wto to f13. In fact he works three blocks from where I live and lives about five miles away. Oddly this is purely coincidence.

Rpg codex is uh

Well its something

When science decides what, we can revisit... whatever they are


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Severian on October 23, 2017, 03:20:08 PM
Help me out. :geezer: I was aware of Lum The Mad though I didn't hang out there because I was in the MMORPG Honeymoon phase for a long time and had no interest in rantings. But that seemed to be the starting point of a small series of MMO-oriented forums which I mostly-lurked through, with many of the same cast of characters moving from one to the next to theorycraft/bitch, and Waterthread being the last in the series. I feel sure there were at least two earlier incarnations in different hands, though, but I have forgotten the site names and I haven't seen people here referring to any other than Waterthread. Any clue what I might be remembering?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cadaverine on October 23, 2017, 03:27:01 PM
Slow News Day, and Corp News, I believe.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: naum on October 23, 2017, 03:57:25 PM
Slow News Day, and Corp News, I believe.

P2P.

And Grimwell had a small community site too before he killed it when he took a gaming job.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Severian on October 23, 2017, 04:38:54 PM
Right, Slow News Day and P2P! Thank you.

Corp News I actually did remember, its visual theme was tied to the name, but it hadn't been one of my main stops. 

edited to fix "it's"


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 23, 2017, 05:08:49 PM
Right, Slow News Day and P2P! Thank you.

Corp News I actually did remember, it's visual theme was tied to the name, but it hadn't been one of my main stops.

Many of them were convinced I would implode into a singularity of bad taste within six months.

I don't think they even lasted until I got hyped for I am Legend.   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on October 23, 2017, 06:12:30 PM
Corpnews was where the bulk of the trolly/ mostly-angsty people resided. Boogaleboo, Rasputin, Pika, Zen, etc. It was around from the LTM days forward, just had more or less popularity depending on the Lum-spawn sites' current status. I understand it originally started only as a way to scam Press passes to GDC; The Moorlocks was the site that had any real 'legitimacy' for that crew.

Lum became SND when Scott took the gaming job. Then SND had the drama wherein Eldin stole all the money and it imploded and splintered. Most went to P2P, run by Angel and Grimwell started a site in there somewhere, which was short-lived as mentioned. Saddened me as Grim's site was far better than Angel's, IMO.

Then Waterthread started and folks picked it up from wherever and migrated here where it then became F13.

Thus ends my brief recounting of the history.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on October 23, 2017, 06:16:09 PM
Everybody is forgetting The Morlocks.  :heartbreak:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on October 23, 2017, 06:45:56 PM
I did not. I just misspelled them.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on October 23, 2017, 06:48:34 PM
I did not. I just misspelled them.

Fair enough.  That was easily my favorite of the splinter sites, though.  Some of you guys are still here tho, which is pretty rad.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on October 24, 2017, 01:48:47 AM
Conspiracy theory du jour is that it was all just a 4chan "op" that led to NeoGAFs demise and not, you know, the conduct of ist owner.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Selby on October 24, 2017, 06:22:13 AM
That was easily my favorite of the splinter sites, though.  Some of you guys are still here tho, which is pretty rad.
I liked the Morlocks, EFP was probably my favorite poster there. I still have so many registration emails and correspondence from that era. It's a shame to think I wasted all that time back then. Getting my home server hacked by a disgruntled forum poster wasn't cool though...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on October 24, 2017, 07:39:20 AM
EFP... THAT"S who I couldn't remember the other day.

He was that era's RK47. Miss that guy... and RK, too, now that I think about it. Where the hell did he go.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on October 24, 2017, 08:02:49 AM
No idea, but I know that wherever they are, they float.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on October 24, 2017, 10:25:01 AM
CorpNews was a way for Poppinfresh to scam E3 passes as a gaming journalist.

The astounding thing is that it actually worked for a few years.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 24, 2017, 11:43:37 AM
I thought that was what front pages were /for/.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on October 24, 2017, 12:47:26 PM
It WAS back when E3 was something worth attending.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on October 24, 2017, 01:05:47 PM
Ah right,  it was E3 not GDC. I’m old.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on October 24, 2017, 02:09:34 PM
For a recent reminder of how video game publishers see their audience ( as money dispensers mostly) watch Jim Steling‘s latest Jimquisition about a company called „Scientific Revenue“ that wants to „turn players into payers“.

It’s basically everything we ever thought would eventually happen rolled into one large shit sandwich. Including targeted pricing, data mining the shit out of player behavior, strategies to turn “more players into whales and dolphins”, the evil playbook of “player retention strategies” with a side of machine learning and cloud services. Packaged as an “easily integrateable” plugins available for all major game engines and middleware frameworks.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on October 24, 2017, 02:30:43 PM
Jim Sterling's been banging that drum for a while.  Meanwhile, I never got the free E3 pass that was promised to me years ago and I'm still bitter about it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on October 24, 2017, 02:40:08 PM
Jim Sterling's been banging that drum for a while.  Meanwhile, I never got the free E3 pass that was promised to me years ago and I'm still bitter about it.
True, but that shit combined with Activision's microtransaction-based matchmaking is pretty goddamn egregious.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on October 24, 2017, 03:02:22 PM
Why is every Silicon Valley company run by literal Bond villains and like a real version of S.P.E.C.T.R.E? What part of the typical Ivy League education turns large swaths of college graduates into clinical sociopaths?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on October 24, 2017, 03:25:00 PM
Why is every Silicon Valley company run by literal Bond villains and like a real version of S.P.E.C.T.R.E? What part of the typical Ivy League education turns large swaths of college graduates into clinical sociopaths?

It's a symptom of late stage capitalism, a lack of diversity in their upbringings and the constant drumbeat that "greed is good" from fratbro fucks who think that Gordon Gekko was a role model instead of a fucking warning.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on October 24, 2017, 03:30:06 PM
Too many dudebros reading Atlas Shrugged.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 24, 2017, 05:32:23 PM
CorpNews was a way for Poppinfresh to scam E3 passes as a gaming journalist.

The astounding thing is that it actually worked for a few years.
weak

I got passes to everything, including federal technology expos.

also the free stuff never ends, I still get sent shit


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 24, 2017, 05:33:11 PM
It WAS back when E3 was something worth attending.

there was really never a time, unless you were an alcoholic.

I had more fun at GDC SF because the CCP parties are really something.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 24, 2017, 05:36:19 PM
Meanwhile, I never got the free E3 pass that was promised to me years ago and I'm still bitter about it.

hat trick

anyway, there's way better things to be bitter about with me, my track record in general is garbage


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on October 24, 2017, 07:35:14 PM
It's funny seeing industry people come out like, "oh thank god NeoGAF is dead, that place fucking sucked and no one liked it".

I mean, yeah NeoGAF was really fucking bad and should've died forever ago but it's still funny hearing that Devs hated it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 24, 2017, 08:09:17 PM
Of course devs hated it. Any professionals in any industry fucking hate anything that behaves like a brutish hive mind.

Communities are, for the most part, bad. They turn on you and that's the ball game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: patience on October 26, 2017, 12:38:43 AM
Of course devs hated it. Any professionals in any industry fucking hate anything that behaves like a brutish hive mind.

Communities are, for the most part, bad. They turn on you and that's the ball game.

Turning on them is a bad way to put it. When you had MS devs/execs astroturfing GAF or high profile devs either lying about stuff (Dyack) or just being belligerent (Bezlinski) they got what was coming to them.

This forum as small and tight knit as it is still goes after certain developers because their BS wouldn't and shouldn't be tolerated.


Where NEOgaf screwed up is a failure in moderation scaling well enough to match its size and police the obnoxious gamer backlash over some of the more innocuous things that can and will go wrong in game development. Basically the forum became too big to manage and devs were being attacked by a large enough group for disclosing features that were removed, why certain bugs couldn't be fixed anytime soon or how they tricked players to have a better gaming experience.

It didn't matter if half the people were level headed about these discussions, the other half were relentless and simply couldn't be stopped due to how a messageboard works without some really strict posting rules in place.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on October 26, 2017, 04:00:30 AM
The GAF OTs are usually good - except when a controversial developer made the game or a controversial reviewer person reviewed it.

The rest not so much. One aspect is that they never quite knew how to deal with the general negative aspects of internet forums. The shitposting, threads that veer completely off-topic, frequently asked questions and frequently re-opened topics, people only contributing sarcasm or irony or bad memes to threads etc.. The normal forum stuff that needs to be stomped out hard.

It's not fun to read an OT for a popular game when it's 30 pages of memes, shitposts, "jokes" and people talking about everything except the game and GAF moderators rarely ever policed that aspect of GAF.

Then there's the controversial people in the industry or the controversial topics or the controversial publishers and those threads regularly went completely off track. Reading the hundreth *person of interest is a stupid poopy face* with "insert sexism and x-phobia here" is exhausting. It also bleeds over in game threads since it always someone's fault that games are too SJW or too easy or too something.

Reading GAF was for me always depressing in that it's exactly like all of the other sites that deal with user generated content, a few Islands of good content mired in a sea of shit nobody is dealing with, like 9GAG or Reddit or all other places that are overrung with 4chan edgelords and bots posting hateful shit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on October 26, 2017, 07:02:08 PM
I can't think of a single thing I've ever seen on GAF that was readable.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Zetor on October 31, 2017, 05:52:07 AM
In other news, apparently Papers Please: The short Film is a thing. Made by Russians because duh. Still official, though!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mhuh6ojc0I

(I also found this musical-like thing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1PAX1AprFM) in Pope's twitter feed...)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 31, 2017, 06:21:06 AM
Papers Please: The Short Film is just 15 minutes of fixed camera footage at the border of Georgia and Chechnya.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on November 03, 2017, 12:37:11 PM
Seriously bummed Runic Games was shut down by Perfect World today. I was really hoping for Torchlight 3. I would run into Runic employees at least once a week downtown.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on November 03, 2017, 02:15:04 PM
Maybe if runic tried to make a game instead of toolsets this wouldn't have happened

Not like blizzard didn't leave a room for competition


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on November 04, 2017, 05:01:47 PM
I was playing Torchlight 2 last week and wondering why it didn't turn out better.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bungee on November 13, 2017, 05:04:20 AM
No idea where else to put this, so:
Are there any PvP games for PC out there that are basically an implementation of WoW Arenas? So, a fantasy-genre implementation of the World of Tanks/Warships/.... type fixed game length, progression based, lobby style? I think there's some implementations of that for Mobile, but none on PC that I know of.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on November 13, 2017, 05:12:56 AM
No idea where else to put this, so:
Are there any PvP games for PC out there that are basically an implementation of WoW Arenas? So, a fantasy-genre implementation of the World of Tanks/Warships/.... type fixed game length, progression based, lobby style? I think there's some implementations of that for Mobile, but none on PC that I know of.

Not really fantasy or very Warcraft-like but Total War Arena (https://totalwararena.net/) is as WoT as you can get with similar tech trees and you control Roman/barbarian/Greek troops (3 units/player) Total War style on a multiplayer map (10vs10).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on November 13, 2017, 05:37:34 AM
No idea where else to put this, so:
Are there any PvP games for PC out there that are basically an implementation of WoW Arenas? So, a fantasy-genre implementation of the World of Tanks/Warships/.... type fixed game length, progression based, lobby style? I think there's some implementations of that for Mobile, but none on PC that I know of.
Smite is pretty close to that. It's got a MOBA mode and a 4v4 Arena mode.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bungee on November 13, 2017, 05:55:25 AM
Not really fantasy or very Warcraft-like but Total War Arena (https://totalwararena.net/) is as WoT as you can get with similar tech trees and you control Roman/barbarian/Greek troops (3 units/player) Total War style on a multiplayer map (10vs10).

Yeah, that's on my list. But I really want that MMORPG skill system (leaning towards what GW2 is doing there) boiled down to just round-based PvP.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Strazos on November 22, 2017, 08:06:33 PM
The new Shadow of War (LOTR) game - worthwhile on steam at $35?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on November 23, 2017, 03:37:47 AM
I've heard it described as "Orc pokemon".


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sir T on November 25, 2017, 02:00:17 AM
You get to see Shelob's tits!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on November 28, 2017, 04:20:32 AM
Why do monsters in Minecraft keep spawning in my house ?  It's well lit.  Elena and I are getting fucking annoyed with it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on November 28, 2017, 05:15:34 AM
Press F7, look for yellow or red Xs.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on November 28, 2017, 06:28:20 AM
Really ?  Thanks, I will do so.


EDIT :  yeah, you've got some addon or something, right ?   :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on November 28, 2017, 11:23:13 AM
Really ?  Thanks, I will do so.


EDIT :  yeah, you've got some addon or something, right ?   :oh_i_see:
People play vanilla minecraft? :headscratch:

It's part of NEI, or you can use this if the light level overlay is all you want:

https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/more-overlays


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on November 28, 2017, 12:06:50 PM
Elena and I are on a realm.  Can we mod that ? 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on November 28, 2017, 12:22:04 PM
Wow, I have done so much MC I didn't realize the f7 overlay wasn't vanilla!

edited to be useful: No, afaik Realms can't be modded. You can run MC on the better computer and open it to LAN, though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on November 28, 2017, 12:31:22 PM
Wank.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on November 28, 2017, 12:54:00 PM
Wow, I have done so much MC I didn't realize the f7 overlay wasn't vanilla!
Me neither honestly, until I played Farming Valley which doesn't have it installed stock.
Elena and I are on a realm.  Can we mod that ? 
I believe you can add client-side mods (like the one I linked) while playing on realms. Grab the .jar for your Minecraft version, drop it in the mods folder and see what happens.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on November 28, 2017, 01:31:39 PM
BRING THE WEE LASS TO THE DARK SIDE

HOST ON LAN


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on November 28, 2017, 02:36:05 PM
There's really no reason not to, unless you have awesome stuff built already and there's no way to get the world file. It doesn't take that much more effort PC-wise to host it yourself, as long as you guys are on the same network.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on November 29, 2017, 05:48:16 AM
It's so much easier to host your own with a young kid. No worries about upgrading or finding a server that matches your needs/ wants. Plus the ability to teleport the kid around is damn useful in my experience.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Druzil on November 29, 2017, 09:44:12 AM
New SMT V trailer for the western release (Switch)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TepXZN3Pw8o


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on November 29, 2017, 12:09:42 PM
I was about to get pissed, then I found there will be a version for PS4 and all was right with the world.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on November 29, 2017, 02:17:24 PM
I was going to buy the Switch just for that. PS4 version? Are you sure!?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on November 29, 2017, 02:40:55 PM
Still seems to just be a rumor at this point.

Edit: removed weird comma


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on November 29, 2017, 03:47:04 PM
I have the PR for it in my mailbox, it does NOT say anything about it being exclusive to the Switch.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: patience on November 29, 2017, 03:55:20 PM
I was about to get pissed, then I found there will be a version for PS4 and all was right with the world.

Atlus the publisher is multiplat.

Atlus the developer usually targets single platforms.

Persona is Sony exclusive.

Shin Megami is Nintendo exclusive.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on November 29, 2017, 04:13:13 PM
I was going to buy the Switch just for that. PS4 version? Are you sure!?
+1 for a desire for confirmation. I've been flirting with a Switch purchase for a while now, and this would just seal the deal.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on November 29, 2017, 05:50:09 PM
Fuck, I may have spoken too soon. There is no confirmation of it coming to the PS4.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on November 30, 2017, 03:40:56 PM
I don't often play Minecraft, but when I do, I play vanilla.

I already have a Switch so I'm set.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on November 30, 2017, 04:08:50 PM
I don't often play Minecraft, but when I do, I play vanilla.
cred ---

srsly bro wat


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on December 01, 2017, 06:26:36 AM
I don't like the mods.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on December 01, 2017, 08:48:34 AM
Preach.  I tried some mods but, meh, I'll just keep on with Vanilla Survival when I fire it up.

The son has aa few dozen on his machine.  Kids. Never content with just playing with plain wooden blocks.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on December 05, 2017, 09:33:35 AM
The Italy expansion for Euro Truck Simulator 2 is out today and it is incredible.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on December 08, 2017, 05:52:02 PM
Cool stuff shown at some event yesterday.

Death Stranding (Kojima) new trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iadt58pIU7o

From Software new game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAYhXKC0LJ8

Soul Calibur 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1sdAmSq4vs


EDIT:

Metro Exodus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYv0AxkBGJo


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on December 08, 2017, 06:11:58 PM
shadows die twice teaser was terribad

i have no clue how to judge death stranding


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on December 08, 2017, 07:46:51 PM
i have no clue how to judge death stranding

It was gorgeous and stylish and what the fuck did I just watch?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on December 09, 2017, 07:12:39 PM
Monster Hunter World beta is available on Playstation Network. I've been wanting to play this game for a long time and WOW this is SO MUCH SHIT. I can't even begin to imagine who would want to play such a clunky piece of shit of combat. For some reason, I always thought that the Monster Hunter games, which I never had a chance to play, had to be a lot of fun to play. Turns out it's the opposite: I can't be bothered to see and find out if they are deep or not or what's all the hype about. It's a game about fighting monsters and the fighting part is as fun as putting stamps on envelopes, without glue.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MahrinSkel on December 09, 2017, 08:09:22 PM
i have no clue how to judge death stranding

It was gorgeous and stylish and what the fuck did I just watch?
Nice to see Norman Reedus getting work, but WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?!

--Dave


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on December 09, 2017, 09:16:44 PM
Monster Hunter World beta is available on Playstation Network. I've been wanting to play this game for a long time and WOW this is SO MUCH SHIT. I can't even begin to imagine who would want to play such a clunky piece of shit of combat. For some reason, I always thought that the Monster Hunter games, which I never had a chance to play, had to be a lot of fun to play. Turns out it's the opposite: I can't be bothered to see and find out if they are deep or not or what's all the hype about. It's a game about fighting monsters and the fighting part is as fun as putting stamps on envelopes, without glue.
Combat in MH is... not the best gaming has to offer.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on December 09, 2017, 09:51:06 PM
Yeah, I tried the Monster Hunter Online beta as well, and combat was about as elegant as two naked 700 pound people trying to hate fuck in a room slathered in barbecue sauce with padded, bouncy walls. The font was goddamn minuscule and unreadable from the couch. It was pretty but nothing about the game was in any way enticing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on December 09, 2017, 10:24:17 PM
MechWarrior 5 teaser trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztqhTjLVfgs


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MahrinSkel on December 09, 2017, 10:40:10 PM
MechWarrior 5 teaser trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztqhTjLVfgs
<nerdgasm>
I AM THE GOD OF HELLFIRE!
</nerdgasm>

Seriously, Mechwarrior was the first game that I ever played for a non-stop 60 hour marathon. This...is going to eat a few more weekends.

--Dave


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Father mike on December 10, 2017, 12:43:02 AM
That looks awesome!  Did they ever get that rights thing with Harmony Gold settled?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on December 10, 2017, 04:29:15 PM
Here's the upcoming Solaris arena (multiplayer of course) for MechWarrior Online: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU0MmjraKbo


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on December 10, 2017, 04:47:18 PM
MechWarrior 5 teaser trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztqhTjLVfgs
Is it just me or do those graphics look extremely dated?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Strazos on December 10, 2017, 05:58:46 PM
Not just you.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on December 10, 2017, 06:30:01 PM
Super dated. PGI has "the heart in the right place" when it comes to MechWarrior but also a serious, long standing and well documented lack of good developers.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 11, 2017, 07:14:08 AM
I guess I don't play graphical showcase games (console shooters?), because they looked good to me.

No interest in playing with unwieldy, improbably robot shooter, but it looks good.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on December 11, 2017, 08:25:32 AM
10 minutes of gameplay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8WoNTHMoLc


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on December 11, 2017, 08:56:51 AM
Is this the guys who did the Mechwarrior Online MOBA sprucing up their engine and making it a single-player campaign?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on December 11, 2017, 11:04:34 AM
MechWarrior 5 teaser trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztqhTjLVfgs
Is it just me or do those graphics look extremely dated?


What's worse is they look a million times worse than the already out MechWarrior Online.  It's...puzzling.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on December 11, 2017, 07:57:04 PM
Wow, glad it wasn't just me--I was like, "Is that an old game that I missed somehow?"


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on December 11, 2017, 10:05:46 PM
Wow, glad it wasn't just me--I was like, "Is that an old game that I missed somehow?"


I was thinking the same thing.  Graphics aren't everything but I was expecting more from something in 2017.  Hopefully they can upgrade them before release.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on December 12, 2017, 08:04:28 AM
Piranha's marketing department is always terrible. The video for their newest map in MOW looks WORSE than the above:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2mI7mO9-1E

It's like they gave the guy in charge of making videos a 2009 Dell Inspiron and said "Meh, it's got a G450 in it.. that's a card you can use.."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Druzil on December 12, 2017, 09:38:32 AM
"Diablo sequels" - After reading the article I can't tell if this is all speculation or based on actual sources. Tentative hype? 

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/12/goldman-activision-shares-to-get-a-boost-from-overwatch-diablo-sequels.html


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on December 12, 2017, 10:12:51 AM
Overwatch 2 is some of the most wishfulness thinking ever. Why would they release a sequel right now? Or even be working on one?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on December 12, 2017, 10:38:46 AM
Overwatch 2 is some of the most wishfulness thinking ever. Why would they release a sequel right now? Or even be working on one?

"EA Does it.."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on December 12, 2017, 01:56:39 PM
Overwatch 2 is some of the most wishfulness thinking ever. Why would they release a sequel right now? Or even be working on one?

For the same reasons we have a Destiny 2.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Teleku on December 12, 2017, 05:54:18 PM
That would defy the entire history of blizzards development cycle.  Granted, the company is a shell of its former self, and I guess the retarded execs could push something like that.  But still.....



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MahrinSkel on December 12, 2017, 06:14:46 PM
Nothing there makes me think "Overwatch 2". An enhanced Overwatch edition with PvE content and possibly some exclusive Heroes (or at least skins), so they can keep selling the box for $60, yeah. But not a true sequel.

-Dave


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on December 13, 2017, 11:01:35 AM
Microsoft is taking up to $200 off the price of their entire stock of 'Windows Mixed Reality'/VR headsets today (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/collections/12DD-WMR-headsets?cat0=devices&icid=en_us_homepage_hero_1_Day8WMR_171212), if anyone is interested in cheap VR.  The Lenovo unit is still $200, though the other $200 units are sold out.  The HP is $249 and the Samsung is $449.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on December 15, 2017, 06:36:05 PM
Coming soon:  An HD remake of Okami on Steam. (http://store.steampowered.com/app/587620/OKAMI_HD/)

Best non-Zelda Zelda game of all time.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on December 15, 2017, 08:05:50 PM
Coming soon:  An HD remake of Okami on Steam. (http://store.steampowered.com/app/587620/OKAMI_HD/)

Best non-Zelda Zelda game of all time.

You said it in two places so I'll say it in two places.

Objectively speaking, this is wrong. Demon's Souls is the best zelda game of all time.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on December 16, 2017, 06:27:18 PM
You'll just have to live with being wrong about that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on December 16, 2017, 10:32:35 PM
He is not wrong though.

Except...

Objectively speaking, this is wrong. Demon's Souls is the best zelda game of all time.

Fixed it for him. Fuck Zelda.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on December 17, 2017, 07:45:30 AM
It is certainly, without question, the best console game of all time. Which makes it the best zelda game of all time also.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on December 17, 2017, 10:24:57 AM
There's certainly some question. Persona 4 and Chrono Trigger come to mind immediately as challengers.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on December 17, 2017, 11:48:55 AM
Persona 5. That is all.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on December 17, 2017, 11:49:19 AM
Nostalgia is a hell of a drug. I have a tattoo from the shin megami tensei universe and I'm not about to pretend persona even nips at the heels of demons souls.

Fuck Chrono trigger.

Edit: haemish mentioned persona 5. Same response, with less nostalgia. These are all excellent games. They were excellent when they were Persona 3 also. Demons souls they are not.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on December 17, 2017, 02:19:10 PM
It is certainly, without question, the best console game of all time. Which makes it the best zelda game of all time also.

Just made me remember, it was 10 years ago we had the top 20 thread (http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=11500.0).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on December 17, 2017, 02:23:47 PM
It is certainly, without question, the best console game of all time. Which makes it the best zelda game of all time also.

Just made me remember, it was 10 years ago we had the top 20 thread (http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=11500.0).
pre-demon's souls, included PC :/

edit: also, holy shit my list is still bangin'


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on December 17, 2017, 02:42:29 PM
It is certainly, without question, the best console game of all time. Which makes it the best zelda game of all time also.

Just made me remember, it was 10 years ago we had the top 20 thread (http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=11500.0).
pre-demon's souls, included PC :/

edit: also, holy shit my list is still bangin'

Yeah, just makes me think about how our lists might have changed in the decade following. The PS3 had just barely launched when that thread was made. Demon's Souls would absolutely make my list now. I'd also probably be focused a lot less on nostalgia (and in particular games that were not particularly great but that I have a lot of fond memories of).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on December 17, 2017, 03:05:44 PM
- Chakan
- Scheherazade
- Torneko

+ Tony Hawk Pro Skater, Dreamcast
+ Demon's Souls
+ Diablo 2

Those would probably be my only changes. Diablo 2 has a glaring absence, but it wasn't til Diablo 3 that this was really highlighted. Demon's Souls picks up the grimdark where Chakan left off. THPS should've been on it to begin with. Torneko is unnecessary with Diablo 2 on the list. Scheherazade is simply bumped.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on December 17, 2017, 03:06:47 PM
maybe it's just time to do this again, with slightly modified rules.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on December 17, 2017, 03:30:53 PM
You wouldn't put Hex on your list at all? And yeah, I'd be up for doing a new top 20.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on December 17, 2017, 04:30:16 PM
No. Because I consider it a board game, not a video game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on December 18, 2017, 06:13:30 AM
I'm up for a new top 20; my list today would be pretty different.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Druzil on December 18, 2017, 07:49:16 AM
Man, I had no idea so many people liked Pool of Radiance.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on December 18, 2017, 01:07:49 PM
Death Knights of Krynn is the best Gold Box of all time.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Zetor on December 18, 2017, 01:24:51 PM
Death Knights of Krynn is the best Gold Box of all time.
Pretty much. Kinda amusing too, considering the other episodes of the Krynn trilogy weren't that memorable -- DQK highlighted how badly high-level ad&d plays and the maps in CHK were just all over the place.

(I still put POR in my top20 because of reasons... mainly rose-colored-glasses nostalgia)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on December 18, 2017, 07:38:10 PM
I just started up a playthrough of Champions of Krynn yesterday.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shannow on December 19, 2017, 06:47:18 AM
Death Knights of Krynn is the best Gold Box of all time.

Curse of the Azure Bonds. Let's fight.

Actually now I want to play DKoK. (Come play Arctic, DL MUD!)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bunk on December 19, 2017, 07:11:24 AM
Looked back at that list. A lot more good things have come out in ten years than I realized, 2/3 of my list would likely change.

Schild, I found your list at the end of that thread. Thought it funny that I've only even played 3 of the games on that list, and I'm a fair bit older than you.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 19, 2017, 07:49:10 AM
Wow, I dug deep for that 20 list. I've never been very nostalgic and have become even less nostalgic since then.

Exception: FFH2  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on December 22, 2017, 07:53:33 AM
http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4604/

NVIDIA is ending 32-bit driver support. You wanna make a game today? That shit better be 64-bit, or you can fuck off.

This probably won't effect too many people. If anything MMOs and other online/still-updated games will need to get their shit together if they don't already have a 64-bit client.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 22, 2017, 11:40:15 AM
http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4604/

NVIDIA is ending 32-bit driver support. You wanna make a game today? That shit better be 64-bit, or you can fuck off.

This probably won't effect too many people. If anything MMOs and other online/still-updated games will need to get their shit together if they don't already have a 64-bit client.
I'm sure a few nvidia employees will have babies during this transition. But yeah, not too many.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on December 29, 2017, 10:51:38 AM

Jan/Feb game releases. Mostly posting this because of the Shadow of the Colossus remaster. I'm strangely interested in Kingdom Come: Deliverance though. I'm sure there stuff missing on here.


1/6


Street Fighter V (Arcade Edition) - PS4, XB1, PC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWSrQ2ZOnq4


1/23


Wonder Boy: The Dragon’s Trap - PS4, Switch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjJ4kqbnga0


The Inpatient - PS4 VR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGWrUjN7huo


1/26


Monster Hunter World - PS4, XB1, PC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBg6KnkpaXU

I’ve never played a Monster Hunter game. Maybe I’ll try this.


1/30


Dissidia Final Fantasy NT - PS4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx1RYeHn1mk

Watched the trailer. Still have no idea what the hell is going on in this game.


Railway Empire - PS4, XB1, PC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osHJRWJrY2I

? (January release date)


Red Strings Club - PC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7ZNwl0qAbg

Devolver Digital’s cyberpunk adventure game.


2/2


Don’t Knock Twice - PS4 VR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ILLofswU8c

Based on the Katee Sackhoff horror movie even I didn’t know existed.


Past Cure - PS4, XB1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMCzyQ_owDY


2/6


Shadow of the Colossus - PS4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO9az7gPYdE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ActhIPQ_DFQ

Looks amazing.


2/9


Dynasty Warriors 9 - PS4, XB1, PC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7gIFAhq8w4


Under Night In-Birth Exe: Late[St] - PS4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOkGJGXc5yE


The Seven Deadly Sins: Knights of Britania - PS4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRKhlFB9OP0

I’m not the target audience for this game, but there’s a large pig that seems to figure in prominently so there’s that at least.


2/13


Kingdom Come: Deliverance - PS4, XB1, PC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw9wAnL0Xvc

Kickstarted Eurojank from the Czech Republic, this apparently got some good buzz going for it at Gamescom.


Crossing Souls - PS4, PC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXQ0chPzJ_k

80’s nostalgia-fest. Not sure how representative that trailer is but it borrows directly from Back to the Future, ET, Stand By Me, etc...


2/15


Secret of Mana - PS4, PC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujF9CZJyshQ


2/16


Bayonetta 2 + Bayonetta - Switch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SxJGDofOfo


2/20


Metal Gear Survive - PS4, XB1, PC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bEq5M6ILrU

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.


2/23


Sword Art Online: Fatal Bullet - PS4, XB1, PC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOx1PCIcYFA


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on December 29, 2017, 10:56:33 AM
1/26


Monster Hunter World - PS4, XB1, PC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBg6KnkpaXU

I’ve never played a Monster Hunter game. Maybe I’ll try this.

Don't. The beta was fucking awful.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nebu on December 29, 2017, 11:36:09 AM
1/26


Monster Hunter World - PS4, XB1, PC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBg6KnkpaXU

I’ve never played a Monster Hunter game. Maybe I’ll try this.

Don't. The beta was fucking awful.

Anyone know if Dauntless is any better?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Gimfain on December 29, 2017, 02:11:28 PM
1/26


Monster Hunter World - PS4, XB1, PC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBg6KnkpaXU

I’ve never played a Monster Hunter game. Maybe I’ll try this.

Don't. The beta was fucking awful.
What made it so bad?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on December 29, 2017, 02:25:11 PM
1/26


Monster Hunter World - PS4, XB1, PC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBg6KnkpaXU

I’ve never played a Monster Hunter game. Maybe I’ll try this.

Don't. The beta was fucking awful.
What made it so bad?
It's a Monster Hunter game. You either love them or hate them.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on December 29, 2017, 02:29:16 PM
Controls were shit, all the text was squinty tiny, and while pretty, did I mention that it controlled like ass? Mostly that the controls were really assy.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on December 29, 2017, 03:04:46 PM
Controls were shit, all the text was squinty tiny, and while pretty, did I mention that it controlled like ass? Mostly that the controls were really assy.
Have you played MH games before? I'm not trying to be snarky; they're a very specific sort of game and clunky controls (along with shit inventory management) are part and parcel of that experience.

If the controls here are worse in some way, that's what I'd like to know.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on December 29, 2017, 07:59:25 PM
Sorry, no I haven't played Monster Hunter games before. My comparisons were to other action combat 3rd person type of games and even among those, it was bad. I think I described it feeling like two blind rhinos trying to fuck in a giant burlap sack.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 03, 2018, 01:50:52 PM
like two blind rhinos trying to fuck in a giant burlap sack.

Then you carve a roast from them and you're playing Monster Hunter.  Also you beat up things with a mutant tuba.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on January 04, 2018, 03:47:23 AM
Monster Hunter is basically about becoming one with your preferred weapons' movesets and learning monster tells so they walk into your attacks basically.

If you can't get into that, which is perfectly reasonable because nothing really plays like Monster Hunter- you're not going to like it. It utterly embraces its own clunkiness. I enjoyed the DS versions, but it's pretty fucking grindy.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on January 04, 2018, 07:00:13 AM
Sounds like me defending Gothic/Risen/Elex   :cthulu:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on January 04, 2018, 07:07:37 AM
Monster Hunter is basically about becoming one with your preferred weapons' movesets and learning monster tells so they walk into your attacks basically.

If you can't get into that, which is perfectly reasonable because nothing really plays like Monster Hunter- you're not going to like it. It utterly embraces its own clunkiness. I enjoyed the DS versions, but it's pretty fucking grindy.
The grind is always my problem as well, because it's not a Disgaea-like, turn your brain off kind of grind. It's a "you must be paying attention constantly while farming this boss 10 times" kind of grind and it just gets tedious. The relative lack of in-game documentation and thus the need to constantly be on gamefaqs or some Wiki does not help the matter.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Job601 on January 09, 2018, 04:38:43 AM
The grind is always my problem as well, because it's not a Disgaea-like, turn your brain off kind of grind. It's a "you must be paying attention constantly while farming this boss 10 times" kind of grind and it just gets tedious. The relative lack of in-game documentation and thus the need to constantly be on gamefaqs or some Wiki does not help the matter.
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I feel like I would like Monster Hunter if you could just be fighting monsters the whole time; the controls are different but precise.  What I remember from the Wii U version was tons of wandering around with loading screens and messing with items.  It felt like a game that did not respect my time and which was trying hard to withhold the good parts.  It also was a port of a wii game, so really ugly.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 09, 2018, 08:38:41 AM
The controls are precise? I am gonna take your word for it cause I had the exact opposite feeling. Hard to tell if you hit, hard to tell what you hit, hard to tell if you have been hit, and don't get me started on the farce of a monster running away for ten minutes with me chasing only to have the attack animation stop me in my track every time I swing anything, obviously miss because of that, and start chasing again for another two minutes.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on January 09, 2018, 08:46:48 AM
Yeah, precise are not how I would describe the controls of this latest one. It's the exact opposite of precise.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on January 11, 2018, 05:48:08 AM
Dark Souls Remaster for Switch, PS4 XBox One and PC. Potentially announced today


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on January 11, 2018, 06:17:33 AM
Switch confirmed. PRAISE THE SUN!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_u7g5BlfiY

Skip to the 13:00 mark for Switch gameplay. Though the first 13 minutes is chock full of good stuff coming to the Switch.

0:19 - The World Ends with You -Final Remix-
1:25 - Pokkén Tournament DX DLC
2:21 - Kirby Star Allies
3:25 - Kirby Battle Royale & Dragon Quest Builders Demos
3:44 - Hyrule Warriors Definitive Version
4:32 - Mario Tennis Aces
5:28 - Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of DANA
6:34 - Super Mario Odyssey Update - Luigi’s Balloon World
7:41 - SNK Heroines Tag Team Frenzy
8:40 - ACA NEOGEO ART OF FIGHTING 2
8:55 - Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle DLC
9:51 - PAYDAY 2
10:38 - Fe
11:12 - Celeste
11:48 - Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze for Nintendo Switch
12:50 - Dark Souls Remastered


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bunk on January 11, 2018, 07:01:13 AM
So apparently CD Project Red sent out a tweet yesterday from the twitter channel for Cyberpunk 2077. First tweet in like five years. It said: "*Beep*"

People got very excited. Rumors of something to be announced today. Or not. Who knows.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Teleku on January 11, 2018, 08:39:14 AM
(https://i.imgflip.com/22i4x6.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on January 11, 2018, 10:46:06 AM
Switch confirmed. PRAISE THE SUN!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_u7g5BlfiY

Skip to the 13:00 mark for Switch gameplay. Though the first 13 minutes is chock full of good stuff coming to the Switch.

0:19 - The World Ends with You -Final Remix-
1:25 - Pokkén Tournament DX DLC
2:21 - Kirby Star Allies
3:25 - Kirby Battle Royale & Dragon Quest Builders Demos
3:44 - Hyrule Warriors Definitive Version
4:32 - Mario Tennis Aces
5:28 - Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of DANA
6:34 - Super Mario Odyssey Update - Luigi’s Balloon World
7:41 - SNK Heroines Tag Team Frenzy
8:40 - ACA NEOGEO ART OF FIGHTING 2
8:55 - Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle DLC
9:51 - PAYDAY 2
10:38 - Fe
11:12 - Celeste
11:48 - Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze for Nintendo Switch
12:50 - Dark Souls Remastered
Goddammit, I guess I really do need to buy a Switch.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on January 11, 2018, 11:07:47 AM
The Switch has its issues but even though its not even a year old yet it already has a decent set of high-quality games available for it already.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on January 12, 2018, 02:04:10 AM
I'm strangely excited about a new Mario Tennis game.

Also according to several sources DS 1 is not a low effort remaster, they spent more than a year on it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on January 17, 2018, 03:43:07 PM
Nintendo Cardboard:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3Bd3HUMkyU

I can see kids loving this. I just see like $70 for software+cardboard and balk.

This seems like one of those things where at best you'll spend $160 for the whole set for a kid,  then they'll build everything, play with it off and on for a month or two until the cardboard starts to wear out and then not really mess with it again. Then the community for it will be supplanted with an army of 30-40somethings building insanely elaborate toys with it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on January 17, 2018, 05:02:34 PM
Nintendo Labo. FEEL THE PAPERCUTS!  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on January 18, 2018, 06:49:51 AM
Apparently the Dark Souls port for the Switch is getting Labo support. A preview of the controller:



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 18, 2018, 09:33:05 AM
Labo looks pretty cool.  Will gauge interest from the teen.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on January 18, 2018, 07:44:34 PM
Nintendo Cardboard:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3Bd3HUMkyU

I can see kids loving this. I just see like $70 for software+cardboard and balk.

This seems like one of those things where at best you'll spend $160 for the whole set for a kid,  then they'll build everything, play with it off and on for a month or two until the cardboard starts to wear out and then not really mess with it again. Then the community for it will be supplanted with an army of 30-40somethings building insanely elaborate toys with it.

I don't get it. :headscratch:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: patience on January 19, 2018, 07:04:48 AM
Nintendo Cardboard:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3Bd3HUMkyU

I can see kids loving this. I just see like $70 for software+cardboard and balk.

This seems like one of those things where at best you'll spend $160 for the whole set for a kid,  then they'll build everything, play with it off and on for a month or two until the cardboard starts to wear out and then not really mess with it again. Then the community for it will be supplanted with an army of 30-40somethings building insanely elaborate toys with it.

I don't get it. :headscratch:


It's basically the ultimate solution to the peripherals market.


Remember guitar hero? Now imagine using cardboard  instead of plastic. This greatly changes the longevity of the brand.


You know what game required (yes required) this?

(https://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/scale_small/3/39474/1294274-tank_controller.png)


Now imagine if this barrier to playing this game could be replaced with cardboard and 4 joycons.



But that's not the only thing Labo does.


Nintendo pushed Wii Music at schools. Labo will get way more traction as an educational tool at schools that haven't cut budgets for the arts. I even can see science programs with an engineering bent asking for this.


It goes even further than those 2 but discussing how this could create a cottage industry for Nintendo to coexist with is too large of a subject.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 19, 2018, 07:55:43 AM
i don't have words for how much i hate the labo


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 19, 2018, 09:23:28 AM
Nantucket just got released on Steam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_rATL0UZAA


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 19, 2018, 02:12:05 PM
i don't have words for how much i hate the labo

Oh, come on. You're aging more rapidly than my prostate.  If this shit came out for the SNES in the 90s, you'd eat it up.  My son is (being forced) into robotics and this is both a way to keep those skills updated as well as something that is generally a cool side project.  It will no doubt be a boost for N, but maybe you hate N enough that this alone irks you, which is fair.  I don't hate Nintendo because the Switch is awesome and they are making great games for it.  /shrug_emoji

Ultimately if my boy is excited about something that will encourage him to do something other than play Stardew Valley, watch YouTube, and text the group chat on his phone, then I'm all for it.  Lame for you?  Perhaps.  Lame for our kids?  Not at all.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 19, 2018, 08:49:56 PM
I didn't even own a super scope.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on January 20, 2018, 11:00:56 AM
I was originally super put-off by the price. $70 for the software and some fucking cardboard? Apparently the actual patterns are going to be made publicly available, and rebuying the premade ones without the software will be much, much cheaper.

It really seems like more of a novelty but you can't really say it isn't clever. Granted my opinion that kids will lose interest really quick stands.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 20, 2018, 10:00:59 PM
Nintendo Ikea? Come on, this is stupid and shit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Teleku on January 21, 2018, 05:32:41 AM
I’m trying to imagine what sort of child doesn’t break each one of those within a few days.  Like, plastic accessories had a rough life in the 80’s.  You’ll literally have to buy new cardboard to rebuild the device every week.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on January 21, 2018, 06:51:16 AM
That was my biggest concern too. When I watched the video, I thought it was the sort of thing I might enjoy, but my kids will wreck it almost immediately.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Druzil on January 22, 2018, 11:33:11 AM
Anyone had to replace the battery in their Wii-U pad?  Mine lasts like 30-45 minutes at best these days.  The batteries seem cheap enough on Amazon, so I'm probably just going to give it a shot and see how it goes.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 22, 2018, 09:19:25 PM
I’m trying to imagine what sort of child doesn’t break each one of those within a few days.  Like, plastic accessories had a rough life in the 80’s.  You’ll literally have to buy new cardboard to rebuild the device every week.

Plastic today ain't plastic in the 80s and cardboard ain't the plastic of today.

This shit is stupid. I don't care if kids want to be fucking robots. This is not that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: patience on January 23, 2018, 05:59:09 AM
If you're dissatisfied with cardboard get fibreboard.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on January 23, 2018, 11:56:36 AM
Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age comes out on PC 2/1/18; glad I held off and didn't buy it on my PS4. 20% off if you buy it the first week, but it cannot be preordered. :uhrr:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on January 23, 2018, 12:17:43 PM
I've been playing through it on PS4 for the last two weeks.  Enjoying it a lot but I can't help feeling like I screwed up my job assignments and am too far into the game to start over.  Pro-tip: don't put spears and knight swords on the same character.

The fast-forward mode is life-changing, it's almost impossible to go back to normal speed once you get comfortable on 2x.  It makes the later grinding so much easier.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on January 25, 2018, 08:59:23 PM
Darkest Dungeon is now available on the Switch and it seems to be a pretty good port.

https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/darkest-dungeon-switch


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on January 26, 2018, 08:20:44 AM
Darkest Dungeon is now available on the Switch and it seems to be a pretty good port.

https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/darkest-dungeon-switch

Man, it looks like some good games are getting ported over that were fun on Steam but better suited for portable play, then were later ported to iOS/Android for tablets.  This is starting to get super tempted for couch play while the wife watches TV/facebook.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on January 26, 2018, 11:41:45 PM
Paragon, Epic's misguided foray into MOBAs, is closing on 26 April.  Unsurprising considering the game never really caught on and with Fortnite being as successful as it is, all Epic's resources will be put to there.  At least they're offering full refunds for people that bought into it. 

Even though it had a small community, I feel bad when people lose their game, esp. this guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwm2SxoYfJM&feature=youtu.be


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Teleku on January 26, 2018, 11:56:27 PM
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Comics/Pa-comics/n-xmQS5/i-FXxTdN3/0/2100x20000/i-FXxTdN3-2100x20000.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Pendan on January 29, 2018, 04:57:35 PM
Bluehole is shutting down Devilian so Epic has to follow with its own closer.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on January 29, 2018, 07:15:57 PM
Damn, I had never even heard of Devilian before you mentioned it and I still had to Google it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 29, 2018, 07:27:01 PM
It totally sounds like a bad browser game from ten years ago.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 29, 2018, 10:52:15 PM
Remember The Church in the Darkness? The game inspired to the Jonestown Massacre? There's a new gameplay video out that explains what it's going to be like. Basically, it's a... stealth-cult-infiltration game...

See for yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfapRHqqZSM


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 08, 2018, 10:16:45 AM
A survival game with modular mechs?

Pantropy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLg6pphtx1Y


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on March 12, 2018, 03:37:52 AM
Nintendo Direct for March '18.

https://youtu.be/NsFna-Z1MjU

Highlights (Bold for :drill: to look out for):

3DS Stuff
WarioWare Gold - All the Warioware games bundled into one game.
Dillon's Dead-Heat Breakers - Some sort of indie tower defense game.
Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey - Holy shit they're still making this series? Man, I need to catch up...
Detective Pikachu + amiibo - lolololol @deep voice Pikachu
Luigi's Mansion - One of the few gems of the GameCube, now on 3DS

Switch Stuff
Kirby Star Allies - Moar Kirby hype. All of the sidekicks from the various Kirby games are coming together for this one.
Okami HD - Fuck yeah!
Sushi Striker: The Way of Sushido - Umm, whatever.
Octopath Traveler - Square RPG in the vein of FF but not FF. Intricate job system that spans 8 main characters.
Travis Strikes Again: No More Heroes - Different kinda of game from the No More Heroes franchise of the Wii. Looks neat.
Dark Souls Remastered + amiibo - PRAISE THE SUN, MF'ERS!
Mario Tennis Aces - Eh...yay sports?
Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker - Another Wii port getting the Switch treatment. Shiny graphics and some new content.
Undertale - I still haven't played this. It's about time.
Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy - So much for Sony exclusives. Every platform is getting this now, but seeing it on the Switch is kinda  :awesome_for_real:
Little Nightmares: Complete Edition - If you're Nintendo, and you greenlit Dark Souls for your console, anything's game at this point.
South Park: The Fractured But Whole - lololololol South Park on Nintendo. Believe the hype!
Hyrule Warriors: Definitive Edition - Another Wii port getting the Switch treatment. Shiny graphics and some new content.
ARMS US & Canada Online Open - Multiplayer ARMS!
Splatoon 2 ver. 3.0 - More Splatoon love!
Super Smash Bros. - It's time, fuckers. Begin the Switch money printer!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on March 12, 2018, 04:48:21 AM
I swore to myself that I’ll never buy an Amiibo. I’ll break that for the Solaire of Astoria Amiibo.

Praise the Sun, Motherfuckers.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Druzil on March 12, 2018, 10:14:11 AM
I hope they are saving some heavy hitters for later in the year, because that's a whole bunch of bleh.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on March 12, 2018, 11:31:25 AM
Supposedly there will be:

* A proper Fire Emblem game
* A proper Pokémon game
* Bayonetta 3
* A new Metroid Prime
* A new Shin Megami Tensei


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on March 12, 2018, 11:50:12 AM
Octopath Traveler is the only thing that's vaguely exciting for me on that list, but I get kind of a Bravely vibe from it and I didn't care for either of those games so...

Trippy's list is far more exciting, and SMT is what will finally get me to pull the trigger. I'm hoping for a cheaper handheld-only model or something, as I've had poor luck with consoles lately where I buy one weeks before they announce the fancy slim model.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on March 12, 2018, 12:06:50 PM
Trippy's list is far more exciting, and SMT is what will finally get me to pull the trigger. I'm hoping for a cheaper handheld-only model or something, as I've had poor luck with consoles lately where I buy one weeks before they announce the fancy slim model.

They've already said that a Switch 2.0 is not happening, rather they'll continue to work with what they've got and add new peripherals/accessories.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 13, 2018, 09:40:51 AM
Smash Bros is bleh?

This recent news is how I discovered my son does not know what SMT is.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on March 13, 2018, 02:58:33 PM
"Free" games via Twitch Prime (Amazon Prime):

https://blog.twitch.tv/level-up-your-video-game-collection-with-free-games-with-prime-785fac856490?sf184412156=1

March games:
· Superhot
· Shadow Tactics
· Tales from Candlekeep
· Oxenfree
· Mr. Shifty

April games:
· Tales from the Borderlands
· SteamWorld Dig 2
· Kingsway
· Tokyo 42
· Dubwars


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Druzil on March 14, 2018, 06:24:26 AM
Smash Bros is bleh?

Yes?  I still occasionally play the Wii-U version with my son and it's fine, but I don't really need a new one.  What new Nintendo characters could they possibly add?  Squid kid?  Some Arms character no one knows?  bleh.  If they really get crazy and get Alloy or Geralt maybe I'll warm up on it.

Supposedly there will be:

* A proper Fire Emblem game
* A proper Pokémon game
* Bayonetta 3
* A new Metroid Prime
* A new Shin Megami Tensei


This list I can get excited about, I'd likely buy all of those.

I want to get excited about Octopath Traveler but something about the look of it makes me unsure.  I don't really know much about it though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on March 14, 2018, 09:15:57 AM
I'm over Smash Bros. too, although that's as much a function of getting older and not hanging out with large groups of friends simultaneously as it is of anything on Nintendo's part.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on March 14, 2018, 09:48:39 AM
"Free" games via Twitch Prime (Amazon Prime):

https://blog.twitch.tv/level-up-your-video-game-collection-with-free-games-with-prime-785fac856490?sf184412156=1

March games:
· Superhot
· Shadow Tactics
· Tales from Candlekeep
· Oxenfree
· Mr. Shifty

April games:
· Tales from the Borderlands
· SteamWorld Dig 2
· Kingsway
· Tokyo 42
· Dubwars


Oo, I'd been wanting to grab Superhot.

Also, I played Oxenfree when it came out and can recommend it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 14, 2018, 12:12:39 PM
Can't unsee Mr Shitty


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on March 15, 2018, 02:00:40 PM
MechWarrior 5 teaser trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztqhTjLVfgs
Is it just me or do those graphics look extremely dated?


What's worse is they look a million times worse than the already out MechWarrior Online.  It's...puzzling.



Goodness.  Massive improvement.

https://youtu.be/sa043A2fjCY (https://youtu.be/sa043A2fjCY)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Father mike on March 15, 2018, 08:09:24 PM
Have they released a mech list yet?  Because I saw a Rifleman and a several Shadow Hawk shots.  Which gets my hopes up for all the old mechs (Warhammer, Maurader, Crusader, etc.)

Those have a special place in my 15-year-old heart.

And yes, I know why they haven't been around for 30+ years.  But I'm still pumped to see them again.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shannow on March 16, 2018, 10:14:20 AM
The meta-game/gameplay types is what's going to have to make this game stand out. I want there to be progression in my char (and hopefully squad mates) , a good salvage system, ability to fully mod my mechs etc. Mech combat is only half the fun. If it's just a single mech on the rails game (aka CoD style or something) this game will suck. Hopefully Harebrained's Battletech will scratch this itch.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on March 16, 2018, 11:25:37 AM
They haven't released a list, but it's PGI and they do MWO which features the 'mechs you like.  I'd be surprised if any of that roster didn't come to this eventually.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on March 17, 2018, 06:33:36 AM
Fantasy Productions tried to use “Unseen” artwork after they acquired most of FASA IPs but ultimately deemed it to much of a risk. WizKids tried as well and Catalyst game labs tried to use original artworks and original designs for their 2009 BattleTech rerelease and 25 years of BattleTech art books and had to pull them. They “officially” retconned all Unseen imagery in 2015. Still due to the original settlement agreement between FASA and Twentieth Century Imports (which is still under NDA) and the copyrights and IP minefield Macross is to this day, with multiple companies claiming to own the IP and distribution/licensing rights for it. Harmony Gold for example still claims to own the exclusive rights to Macross outside of Japan and regularly issues cease and desist letters even though it is highly doubtful that they actually own any rights.

PGI never disclosed why they are able to use Unseen mech designs in their game. At the time it was speculated that it was either because of a new licensing deal (unlikely) or due to the fact that they modified the designs slightly so that they still resemble the familiar mech designs while being far enough from them to be considered original artworks. They promote them as Unseen mechs though and sell them for real money.

Catalyst Game Labs cited the unclear legal situation as a reason for them retconning the images in 2015. Largely retaining original features that make the mechs recognizable while at the same time being far enough removed from them to be considered original.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on March 18, 2018, 10:55:00 AM
As far as I know PGI uses them because they believe they changed them enough and are willing to face legal challenge over it.


Also, more info here. Basically, the lawsuit-happy Harmony Gold does not seem to even own those copyright, which is quite the plot twist.

http://www.sarna.net/news/update-on-the-harmony-gold-lawsuit/



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on March 18, 2018, 01:00:15 PM
All that aside, they'll be in the game because they're in MWO. 

It may take a few expansions tho.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 21, 2018, 12:13:16 PM
I'm over Smash Bros. too, although that's as much a function of getting older and not hanging out with large groups of friends simultaneously as it is of anything on Nintendo's part.

I've been over Smash Bros for a long time, if I was even ever into it.  It does have a following, though, and I learned firsthand that it is part of at least some fighting game tournaments.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on March 22, 2018, 01:27:18 PM
At long last, 1997's "Curse of Monkey Island" (IMO the best of the series, with a good mix of puzzles, story and general charm) is out both on Steam and GOG:

https://www.gog.com/game/the_curse_of_monkey_island
http://store.steampowered.com/app/730820/The_Curse_of_Monkey_Island/

Murray the Demonic Talking Skull, the pirate song, EL POLLO DIABLO and of course the orchestrated main theme of Monkey Island....great memories :)




Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on March 23, 2018, 03:15:48 AM
Hardcore fans of the series tend to dislike it but it's my favorite. I like it even more than 2. I still have the original CDs and the patches and I still play it every other year.

An absolute must buy for me on GOG


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Tale on March 28, 2018, 11:10:01 PM
I haven't played it, but I get the sense that Sea of Thieves is some kind of cultural phenomenon. I've seen two kids on the train watching videos of it, I passed a guy at work with it on his screen, it popped up in something else I was watching, and ... I don't even know much about it and the reviews don't sound that good, but these people are making it overlap into my world. I'd now recognise the Sea of Thieves water model anywhere.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Draegan on March 29, 2018, 08:52:24 AM
I saw an ad for it. Not sure what the game is.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on March 29, 2018, 09:35:16 AM
There’s not much of a game there to know. Some people are going crazy over it cause it’s an Xbox “exclusive”, even though it’s also on the PC.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on March 29, 2018, 10:06:15 AM
I was going to buy it but then realized how little content it hasand passed. It's just a super expensive Early Access.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on March 29, 2018, 11:01:50 AM
There’s not much of a game there to know. Some people are going crazy over it cause it’s an Xbox “exclusive”, even though it’s also on the PC.


You also have to be using Windows 10 to run it on your PC. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 29, 2018, 11:23:10 AM
It's one of those poppy games that's fun to play with a few friends. No idea how these get teh zeitgeist, but the people I see talking about it are some artists who play stuff like GW2 and Overwatch.

It's a decent framework, but super, super limited in content and I doubt the existing gameplay would last long before getting old. Other than an excuse to hang out in a cool chat room shouting reef the sails to your friends?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nebu on March 29, 2018, 11:32:06 AM
Sea of Thieves and Fortnite are both receiving immense attention right now and I have no idea why. 

I'm wondering if I'm just having a  :geezer: moment.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on March 29, 2018, 11:44:03 AM
Xbox One is so starved for exclusives that it's basically Robot Jesus right for that crowd even though it's doesn't have much of a game.

Fortnite is the most popular of the relatively new Battle Royale genre which has turned into a very popular PvP game mode.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nebu on March 29, 2018, 11:50:10 AM
Fortnite is the most popular of the relatively new Battle Royale genre which has turned into a very popular PvP game mode.

I've played it.  I just don't get the hype.  It's a cartoon version of PubG with an annoying-as-fuck building element that makes the endgame all about building a ramp and finding a shotgun.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 29, 2018, 12:28:07 PM
The younger generation (spoiler: you're all old now, too  :why_so_serious:) loves cartoonier stuff. We're going to see a lot more of that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on March 29, 2018, 12:28:28 PM
Fortnite is blowing up because Drake played it with a popular streamer which got the most views on Twitch or some shit. And THAT got reported on regular news so people probably checked out the game because of it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on March 29, 2018, 03:57:37 PM
Sea of Thieves and Fortnite are both receiving immense attention right now and I have no idea why. 

I'm wondering if I'm just having a  :geezer: moment.

Sea of Thieves is part of the new Xbox gamepass. So while it may seem like a shallow No Man's Sea for $60, Xbox users can use a trial and play it for free or as part of their $10 a month. Most reviewers and people that played the beta are panning it. Sure, mechanically it's a neat and novel experience, but there's just about nothing there and what content is there is repetitive and not very fun.

Fortnite is filling a niche that PUBG filled poorly. It's free (the BR portion), it runs well on most systems, it's not overrun (yet) by hackers, it has a lot of popular streamer support, and changes are made quickly in response to bugs and content is added continually. All things that PUBG somewhat struggles with.

I don't really plan to play either game. Maybe Sea of Thieves if it gets a lot of updates to actually put something there and lowers the price dramatically.  The $60 is basically a sucker's price.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 29, 2018, 04:48:33 PM
Fortnite is blowing up because Drake played it with a popular streamer which got the most views on Twitch or some shit. And THAT got reported on regular news so people probably checked out the game because of it.

It was blowing up before that


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on March 30, 2018, 03:56:25 AM
The younger generation (spoiler: you're all old now, too  :why_so_serious:) loves cartoonier stuff. We're going to see a lot more of that.

You're not joking.  Elena's Primary school all play this.  She's mental into it.

It's awesome to see.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on March 31, 2018, 01:46:06 PM
Fortnite is blowing up because it's free and on damn near every platform, including mobile, compared to PUBG which is only on PC and a single console, and struggles to run on both. Kids watch PUBG stuff and want to play it, but don't have the means, so they gravitate toward the game that's actually on their platform.

Turns out accessibility is kind of important, especially when it provides celebrities easier access to your game for that sweet, sweet indirect marketing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 31, 2018, 02:50:50 PM
Using a celebrity is extremely direct marketing. Possibly the only things more direct are cold calling and shoving garbage in a mailbox.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MahrinSkel on April 03, 2018, 06:11:54 PM
Fortnite is blowing up because it's free and on damn near every platform, including mobile, compared to PUBG which is only on PC and a single console, and struggles to run on both. Kids watch PUBG stuff and want to play it, but don't have the means, so they gravitate toward the game that's actually on their platform.

Turns out accessibility is kind of important, especially when it provides celebrities easier access to your game for that sweet, sweet indirect marketing.
If you think those celebrities are promoting a game and not getting paid for it, I have some obscure crypto-currencies you just have to get in on....

--Dave


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Tale on April 03, 2018, 11:21:51 PM
There’s not much of a game there to know. Some people are going crazy over it cause it’s an Xbox “exclusive”, even though it’s also on the PC.

I've now seen it referred to as No Man's Sea.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 13, 2018, 08:42:08 AM
I'm the one dude that likes building forts in Fortnite.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on April 20, 2018, 04:17:16 AM
Am I the only one who thinks that an engine supplier directly competing with its own customers by releasing similar games is a bit suspect? Also probably not the wisest business decision?

Games press is largely handling it as if it's not a big deal and as if Bluehole and Player Unknown are babies for complaining about other people eating their lunch. Well they are being whiny bitches about their competition but being a whiny bitch doesn't necessarily mean you're wrong. I wondered why EA is pushing Frostbite so hard and while having their own engine makes a lot of financial sense for a publisher that is as big as EA, they're also no longer feeding info and company internals to the competition.

Why would I be willing to work with Epic and use their Unreal engine when that cooperation poses the risk of directly feeding valuable improvements, business internals and design knowledge to a potential competitor? Worse even paying them license fees for the engine that they then can use to release the competing product as free to play.

Yes Epic is now probably making all of the money with Fortnite so they got lucky this time but suppose the Fortnite battle royale mode hadn't been the success it was, why jeopardize your own business model and potentially drive away customers?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 20, 2018, 09:31:55 AM
I don't know.  Maybe?  I assume your opinion would vary based on who is winning and which one you liked.  Like Quake and any other game made with that engine.  Or if there was still a Unreal FPS being sold.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on April 20, 2018, 05:16:50 PM
Am I the only one who thinks that an engine supplier directly competing with its own customers by releasing similar games is a bit suspect? Also probably not the wisest business decision?

Games press is largely handling it as if it's not a big deal and as if Bluehole and Player Unknown are babies for complaining about other people eating their lunch. Well they are being whiny bitches about their competition but being a whiny bitch doesn't necessarily mean you're wrong. I wondered why EA is pushing Frostbite so hard and while having their own engine makes a lot of financial sense for a publisher that is as big as EA, they're also no longer feeding info and company internals to the competition.

Why would I be willing to work with Epic and use their Unreal engine when that cooperation poses the risk of directly feeding valuable improvements, business internals and design knowledge to a potential competitor? Worse even paying them license fees for the engine that they then can use to release the competing product as free to play.

Yes Epic is now probably making all of the money with Fortnite so they got lucky this time but suppose the Fortnite battle royale mode hadn't been the success it was, why jeopardize your own business model and potentially drive away customers?

You're literally the only one. See, everyone else remembers Source and how all the best Source games came from Valve.

Also both engines are free as in beer. So.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Morat20 on April 20, 2018, 08:13:30 PM
[wrong thread I'm a moron]


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on April 21, 2018, 05:58:29 PM
Valve acquires Campo Santo, the developers of Firewatch: http://blog.camposanto.com/post/173170027579/campo-santo-news


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on April 21, 2018, 08:17:15 PM
Sure why not

Someone there has to make actual games


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on April 22, 2018, 10:15:12 PM
It'll probably just be some VR horseshit. Not exactly what I needed in my walking simulators.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on May 10, 2018, 09:41:49 AM
Wild West Online, the latest shit game cash grab from Sergey Titov (even thought they deny he's involved), the same man that brought you WarZ/Aftermath/Infestation and the legend that is Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing, is now available on Steam.  Having only been in development for about a year, I wouldn't be too optimistic about it, esp. with a $30 price tag. :awesome_for_real:

http://massivelyop.com/2018/05/10/the-wild-west-online-mmo-officially-launches-out-of-early-access-today-heres-the-new-trailer/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on May 10, 2018, 09:46:50 AM
It'll probably just be some VR horseshit. Not exactly what I needed in my walking simulators.

Well, if you ever wanted to go to Austria but couldn't afford it, you can now do so via VR horseshit.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/779810/VR_Austria/

Edit: Or maybe not.  Says it was released 03 Apr. 2018 but I don't see a way to access the game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on May 24, 2018, 09:57:41 AM
Wargaming shut down the Seattle office today apparently. 150 layoffs. Which is odd, because I just applied last week for a product position there. I suppose that's not happening now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on May 24, 2018, 11:37:00 AM
yea you're not getting that job

source: i have a source


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on May 24, 2018, 02:59:02 PM
Wargaming shut down the Seattle office today apparently. 150 layoffs. Which is odd, because I just applied last week for a product position there. I suppose that's not happening now.

Were they ones that made Hybrid Wars and the updated Master of Orion?  Neither of those did very well and could explain why they're shutting down.  It use to be Gas Powered Games, which made the Dungeon Siege series as well as Supreme Commander and Demigod.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on May 24, 2018, 03:02:37 PM
Dauntless, the Monster Hunter like game, is now in open beta and free to play.  I think this might have done a lot better if it had released a year earlier before Monster Hunter World was available.  I don't like it's chances now that it has to compete with the franchise it's mimicking, esp. with the PC release a few months off.

https://www.pcgamer.com/the-dauntless-open-beta-has-begun/

Edit: Whelp, 60+ min que, 42554 in front of me.  Guess I'll have to wait for another time.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on May 24, 2018, 04:13:58 PM
Wargaming is the studio that builds the World of ____ games.

It looks like they acquired Gas Powered Games and turned them into the Seattle studio.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cadaverine on May 24, 2018, 04:51:22 PM
Wargaming aquired them in 2013. Announced they're closing the studio yesterday.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/318724/Report_Wargaming_Seattle_is_shutting_down.php (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/318724/Report_Wargaming_Seattle_is_shutting_down.php)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on May 24, 2018, 08:28:43 PM
Wargaming is the studio that builds the World of ____ games.

It looks like they acquired Gas Powered Games and turned them into the Seattle studio.

I know they made World of Tanks/Warships/Warplanes but they also made a few other games, too.  Hybrid Wars and Master of Orion were two of them.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on May 25, 2018, 07:30:38 AM
Detroit: Become Human, the new movie/game by David Cage is out today. I like his games so I was pretty excited about this and and preordered it. I played only two hours so far and I like it, the first scene in particular is pretty good. The second and third though, where you play maid, could should have been more streamlined somehow. It actually felt like some kind of trolling: "Oh you think my games are slow (PRESS X TO JASON) and on rails? Here, just fucking clean my house you idiots." Unngh.

It is very reminiscent of the TV show Humans (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV8qFeZxZPE), but set in Detroit instead of the UK. It looks like you control three different characters, but two out of three starts out as house cleaners. Unnngh.

EDIT: I gotta say, the best part so far is the amount of choices and possible outcomes for every scene. At the end of every scene you can see a diagram with all the possible branches and the path you took and the ones you haven't discovered or tried yet. For what is basically a choose-your-adventure game, or a souped-up Telltale game, there seem to be a lot of things to see and a great amount of rplayability.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on May 25, 2018, 11:32:20 AM
That is  incomprehensible to me. I’ve played all of his games except Detroit and I hate all of them, mostly because of how incompetent Cage is about writing and storytelling and how exploitative all of his games are. Exploitative as in only using story beats to effect emotions while not giving a single fuck about the underlying topic or whether or not the story is even coherent or makes sense. Also exploitative in how he treats his protagonists if they are not cis white dudes. (case in point Indigo Prophecy and it’s Melange of sexism, racism and cultural stereotyping and an incoherent story’s that makes absolutely no sense)

The near-rape dream sequence at the beginning of Heavy Rain is a prime example of everything I think is wrong with David Cage‘s writing because it covers all of the above criticisms. Story beat played only for emotional impact, no connection to any of the story, does not give a single fuck about the topic and exploitative. 

Also the plot twist in Heavy Rain is so stupid and mind boggling that it could belong to the Trump administration.

I’m seriously and sincerely interested in what you like about those games.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on May 25, 2018, 11:39:40 AM
 :popcorn:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on May 25, 2018, 11:43:02 AM
Honestly Jeff, you might be right. When it comes to storytelling in videogames I have such low expectations that I can swallow things that would not fly in cinema. Again, you could be right. You probably are. I just enjoy to "play" a movie. Even a mediocre one.n Also, always loved "choose-your-adventure" books, and I remember playing lots of those shitty books just because of the gimmick even though they were literary crap.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on May 25, 2018, 11:50:45 AM
I don't think I ever made it past his wife complaining about getting the plates, or putting out the plates or whatever. She sounded like such an impatient turd I couldn't stand it and never went back.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on May 25, 2018, 12:01:58 PM
Im sorry I know i came off quite hostile but I’m really interested.

I played Heavy Rain first and I liked it a lot - well up to a point - because I’m a sucker for stories and I love choose your own adventure style things. I’m also a sucker for Neo Noir and crime/mystery thrillers.

Cage completely lost me with the weird mid game plot twist though that completely shattered my suspension of disbelief and any sort of emotional investment I had in the story. Which is by and large at least competent. Even the motive of the Origami Killer is believable. It’s not high literature but for someone like me who can bear a lot of pulp it’s not that bad. I read RPG novelizations for fun for Pete’s sake,

You can‘t have me play the killer throughout the game investigating his own crimes though. The scene in the watchmaker’s shop is just WTF bad. I control the killer, I talk to the watchmaker, I investigate and then I leave, I control the character at every point throughout the scene and then the game not only reveals that he is the killer but also that he must have killed the watchmaker while I was controlling the character. Probably while I wasn’t looking. There are a million ways that could have made this reveal better even if you keep the plot twist and the fact that the killer is controlled and he chose probably the most inane one.

I always return to his games like the sucker I am because I like the idea of what he wants to accomplish with his games and I always leave disappointed because the stories are just terribad.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on May 25, 2018, 12:07:06 PM
I always wonder if his games would be better if he just kept to French and just wrote everything in his native language and then spent the money on a competent localization instead.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on May 28, 2018, 08:05:03 PM
Greenman Gaming is having a birthday sale.  Lots of stuff on sale plus voucher codes.

https://www.greenmangaming.com/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on May 29, 2018, 06:12:11 PM
Im sorry I know i came off quite hostile but I’m really interested.

I played Heavy Rain first and I liked it a lot - well up to a point - because I’m a sucker for stories and I love choose your own adventure style things. I’m also a sucker for Neo Noir and crime/mystery thrillers.

Cage completely lost me with the weird mid game plot twist though that completely shattered my suspension of disbelief and any sort of emotional investment I had in the story. Which is by and large at least competent. Even the motive of the Origami Killer is believable. It’s not high literature but for someone like me who can bear a lot of pulp it’s not that bad. I read RPG novelizations for fun for Pete’s sake,

You can‘t have me play the killer throughout the game investigating his own crimes though. The scene in the watchmaker’s shop is just WTF bad. I control the killer, I talk to the watchmaker, I investigate and then I leave, I control the character at every point throughout the scene and then the game not only reveals that he is the killer but also that he must have killed the watchmaker while I was controlling the character. Probably while I wasn’t looking. There are a million ways that could have made this reveal better even if you keep the plot twist and the fact that the killer is controlled and he chose probably the most inane one.

I always return to his games like the sucker I am because I like the idea of what he wants to accomplish with his games and I always leave disappointed because the stories are just terribad.

David Cage games are the raison d'etre for let's plays.  They're super-fancy VNs.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on June 06, 2018, 08:25:53 PM
Not sure if this is useless or not, but Steam has decided to go completely 'hands off' responsibility for games on its own platform: https://steamed.kotaku.com/valve-says-it-will-now-allow-everything-on-steam-unles-1826612274

Because this worked so well for Twitter and Facebook. I'm scratching my head here, curation is expensive, I know it costs money to have people watch things. This just won't help though - it's going to make the problem of shit games mucking up their platform so much worse.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on June 07, 2018, 12:51:51 AM
Not sure if this is useless or not, but Steam has decided to go completely 'hands off' responsibility for games on its own platform: https://steamed.kotaku.com/valve-says-it-will-now-allow-everything-on-steam-unles-1826612274

Because this worked so well for Twitter and Facebook. I'm scratching my head here, curation is expensive, I know it costs money to have people watch things. This just won't help though - it's going to make the problem of shit games mucking up their platform so much worse.

Not exactly a fan, but not really surprised, either.  It's one of those trends that's hard to reverse.  It's a lot easier to loosen the restrictions and allow more stuff in, than it is to tighten them and try to figure out how to deal fairly with the ocean of crap that was let in yesterday when the restrictions were looser.

I mean, at this point, the damage is basically already done.  Nobody is going to be shocked to find a crap game on Steam, and their policy towards stuff like nudity and sex has been awkward and inconsistent.  Like, Steam says you can't have sex.  Well, you can, since you can like, fade to black while people moan suggestively or something, but you can't show any actual nudity.  Well, you can, but it has to be like, naked boobs in a Conan game, you can't have straight up porn.  Well, you can, but it can only be pictures of naked anime girls, you can't show actual sex or anything.  Well, you can, but it has to be censored, you can't just show people fucking.  Well, you can, as long as you have to "hack" the game to do it (and by "hack" I mean those l337 h4xorz edited their config.txt file to set "censorship=false" or something equally pointless).  I mean, WTF are they even pretending to curate at this point, the entire storefront has been covered with lame anime VNs whose only selling point is the "nudity" tag for the last year at least.

Man, I remember when people were getting pissy about how much Train Simulator DLC was on the front page.  If we had only known...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on June 07, 2018, 07:52:42 AM
Steam going Twitter Nazi playground in addition to all the shitty shovelware, asset copy pasta and utter shit games that infest the platform? I'm shocked that they would put profits over the development of great games like Half Life 3.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 07, 2018, 10:04:05 AM
Cultist Simulator is finally out and very "original" for lack of a better word. It is actually hard to play since part of its originality doesn't work well with the absence of a tutorial, but it can be quite addictive and it can trigger the "just one more turn" syndrome before you have even understood how to play.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on June 07, 2018, 11:09:07 AM
There's already a glut of crappy nonsense games on Steam.  It's become cumbersome and impossible to navigate if you're just trying to browse.  When I browse on Steam there is so much garbage that I generally give up before I find anything.  While I don't condone censorship, I am in favour of having standards.  If the game is complete and utter crap and poorly made, then, by all means, say no. The author can always fix it up to meet their quality standards.  Sexual content, violence or point of view isn't a good enough reason to reject a game.  If your stupid school shooting game is made well and not obvious trolling, well then fine... although you're still an asshole for making it and it probably really is trolling.  People can make up their own minds once it passes a quality check.  If Steam becomes a trashy site where anyone can submit anything and have it uploaded, then I'm really sorry I bought so many games from them and I'll buy my games someplace else.  I used to really like Steam but it is becoming rather bloated.  :(


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on June 07, 2018, 11:46:42 AM
I don't even know what the solution for the Steam problem will even be.

I mostly go off of recommendations from friends (or you assholes) for games these days anyway.

I don't know that I would have found Factorio any other way than reading about it here.

I may review Steam Curators to see if any of them are worth a damn, but of course that has the likely problem of them becoming yet another failure point.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on June 07, 2018, 12:20:11 PM
This is all pretty bizarre to me. I never see all the trash on Steam, because browsing Steam is not how I select games. Of course there is trash in there. I have no intention of looking at it.

When I'm looking at my Steam library right now, I see a bunch of quality games that I've either enjoyed playing or hope to find time to play in the future.

Sturgeon's Law has few exceptions, but computer games have never been one.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on June 07, 2018, 12:32:40 PM
Valve is boning themselves by not pushing to have Steam friends integrated into more games. I think the best I remember was Sleeping Dogs (where is the sequel for THAT!?), where you would see achievements ingame compared to Steam friends (I roundhouse kicked more dudes than Mr Noisy!).

State of Decay 2 looks really great for co-op (up to 4 player) but I have zero f13 friends on xbox or wherever the friends list is populated. I guess I should fix that.

Anyway, I mostly buy Rocksmith DLC on Steam. Most stuff I get on GMG and redeem on Steam (or ubi or winstore or wherever now that everyone has their own platform).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on June 08, 2018, 02:03:42 AM
This is all pretty bizarre to me. I never see all the trash on Steam, because browsing Steam is not how I select games. Of course there is trash in there. I have no intention of looking at it.

Well, yeah, now that's how I do it too, but the more niche your tastes are the worse that works.  As someone who likes weird indie games that nobody else apparently likes, it's getting harder and harder to find anything worth taking a chance on.

Valve is boning themselves by not pushing to have Steam friends integrated into more games. I think the best I remember was Sleeping Dogs (where is the sequel for THAT!?), where you would see achievements ingame compared to Steam friends (I roundhouse kicked more dudes than Mr Noisy!).

I think I remember Shadow of Mordor having some of this.  Some feature where people on your friends list would get killed by enemies and the enemy who killed them would show up in your game, and you'd have a chance to avenge them, that kind of thing.  Don't know if the sequel does anything like that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on June 08, 2018, 07:24:51 AM
Maybe Steam got tired of slowly destroying themselves and decided to step it up.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on June 08, 2018, 09:59:55 AM
I think I remember Shadow of Mordor having some of this.  Some feature where people on your friends list would get killed by enemies and the enemy who killed them would show up in your game, and you'd have a chance to avenge them, that kind of thing.  Don't know if the sequel does anything like that.

The sequel expanded it to public, not just friends and was ultimately less effective. If one of you fine folks was killed by an orc I would likely hunt it down. However, I never quite felt compelled to hunt down the killer of xXxBonerSmasher69xXx.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on June 08, 2018, 10:44:14 AM
I think I remember Shadow of Mordor having some of this.  Some feature where people on your friends list would get killed by enemies and the enemy who killed them would show up in your game, and you'd have a chance to avenge them, that kind of thing.  Don't know if the sequel does anything like that.

The sequel expanded it to public, not just friends and was ultimately less effective. If one of you fine folks was killed by an orc I would likely hunt it down. However, I never quite felt compelled to hunt down the killer of xXxBonerSmasher69xXx.

Might have worked better if they had given us the option to high-five the killer of xXxBonerSmasher69xXx...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on June 08, 2018, 11:05:28 AM
Yes, I would be more inclined to hunt down the killer of xXxBonerSmasher69xXx and thank him. 

I never played this game.  I was tempted and even had it on my follow list for a time.  I don't remember why I decided not to buy it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on June 08, 2018, 08:29:53 PM
I played Mordor a bit and remember it being fun, but then something distracted me and I never felt the need to finish it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Segoris on June 11, 2018, 04:08:30 PM
Doesn't deserve its own thread yet, but a new Battletoads...hell yes :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 11, 2018, 05:04:57 PM
the first one is a better meme than game

the game was garbage


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Segoris on June 11, 2018, 05:20:26 PM
Rose colored glasses and all that, I know, but almost everything else I've seen at E3 looked like shit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 11, 2018, 05:31:58 PM
sony presser in 30 minutes

https://www.twitch.tv/twitch


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on June 11, 2018, 06:27:03 PM
This Sony presser is terrible so far. It looks like they decided to wing it or something.

EDIT: appears it actually didn't start until 6:30 or something so all this is just a warm up. /whew


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on June 11, 2018, 07:17:50 PM
This Sony presser is terrible so far. It looks like they decided to wing it or something.

EDIT: appears it actually didn't start until 6:30 or something so all this is just a warm up. /whew

I was for real confused by your sentence. The Sony presser was liquid hot gaming fire.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 12, 2018, 03:37:12 AM
The new Death Stranding trailer is as weird and beautiful as you'd expect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOCbk996_OM


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on June 12, 2018, 08:12:02 AM
the first one is a better meme than game

the game was garbage
In today's world, there's probably more money to be made in an ironic meme than a good game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on June 12, 2018, 08:39:18 AM
The new Death Stranding trailer is as weird and beautiful as you'd expect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOCbk996_OM

Absolutely gorgeous but I have no goddamn idea what I'm watching, gameplay or otherwise.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on June 12, 2018, 09:05:12 AM
Looks like a walking simulator with a story by David Lynch if he lacked any talent.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 12, 2018, 10:03:30 AM
I adore David Lynch but I don't see any David Lynch in that trailer. And yet it's the kind of bleak and desperate and confusing stuff that fuels me. I haven't been this hyped for an upcoming game since Dark Souls was announced.

It helps that this is not "a bizarre new game with strange trailers". It is a Kojima game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 12, 2018, 10:05:54 AM
david lynch is basically always described as bleak, desperate and confusing

so, i guess you did it

you found the lynchian bits


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on June 12, 2018, 01:06:34 PM
Ugh. Sony is blocking crossplay for Fortnite, so anyone that signed up to play on PS4 can't use their account on Switch. Literally the only way around it is to make a new account for Switch use.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on June 19, 2018, 08:08:42 PM
Ugh. Sony is blocking crossplay for Fortnite, so anyone that signed up to play on PS4 can't use their account on Switch. Literally the only way around it is to make a new account for Switch use.

Not sure why this is surprising.  Sony has a successful (reasonably) robust online platform and Nintendo...  They're still Nintendo.

As a side note, I love the existence of the 'is it coming out on Switch?' crowd.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on June 20, 2018, 06:10:46 AM
There's been a lot of outrage about Fortnite/PS4, but isn't that always the way it's been? Have you ever been able to transfer an account started on one console to another?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on June 20, 2018, 08:40:30 AM
This is different. Your Fortnite account is an Epic account. However if you tie it to your PSN account you can no longer cross play with Xbox or Switch. I.e. if you start with a plain PC account, tie it to a PSN account you’ve now screwed yourself. Basically given Sony’s policy you should never ever play a cross play game on a PlayStation. And to be safe you should never get a cross platform game that might have cross play in the future on the PlayStation either.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on June 20, 2018, 08:51:45 AM
It's certainly stupid, but really the only issue seems to be that you could link a PC account with a PS4 account in the first place; if Sony wants to gate their community, they shouldn't have ever allowed PC-PS4 account linking. There are tons of dumb issues with cross-play games (Ark Steam users unable to play with Xbone/Win10 users, or having to re-buy FFXIV when you want to play it on a new platform, etc.), and this one only seems like a big deal because Fortnite is the Next Big Thing (tm).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on June 20, 2018, 10:11:02 AM
Sure. In this case though a Switch version was never planned, it literallly dropped as an E3 announcement and was available within an hour of the announcement. I’m not personally deeply invested in the game, though I did expect my purchases, skins and character progression would carry over because I paid for it.

The two issues are conflated by a lot of the reporting on the issue. Crossplay is one issue. Locked accounts are another.

In my case, I played 1 or 2 matches on PS4 total, then switched to PC to play and paid a little bit of money. I still had my same characters but because I one time linked my PS4 account with my Epic account I’m permanently locked from adding my Nintendo account. I can’t even delink the Sony part from my Epic account, all that does is cancel any purchases from the PS4 sales I made, but still doesn’t let me attach my Nintendo account.

Nobody really is claiming responsibility, but I can say I stopped playing the game because the whole fiasco left a bad taste in my mouth by both Epic and Sony. It just kinda tainted the experience for me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shannow on June 21, 2018, 04:16:52 AM
Fortnite is a shitty game, just don't play it.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on June 21, 2018, 05:30:47 AM
I don't play so I don't know, but does one have the ability to unlink your Sony account from your Fortnite account, or are they bound forever?

If that's the case, I would sue for that ability. All out cross-play will never happen under Sony, but one should be able to take their Fortnite account with them to whatever platform they want to play on.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on June 21, 2018, 07:43:48 AM
As of now they are bound permanently.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on June 21, 2018, 03:05:11 PM
Sony's anti-crossplay stance is going to hurt them when the next gen consoles come out, which shouldn't be too far out now.  Two years, maybe?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 21, 2018, 04:18:00 PM
Hex has crossplay but not shared accounts. They'll probably lighten up on it in the next gen because PC is eating everyone's lunch.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on July 03, 2018, 01:05:58 PM
Not sure where to put this, but Twitch Prime subs have a pretty good list of free games being dished out this month over every few days.

Right now is Pillars of Eternity 1 with all DLC. Totally free if you have Amazon Prime and a Twitch account. https://blog.twitch.tv/get-ready-for-the-biggest-game-giveaway-in-twitch-prime-history-52e55aba19eb



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 03, 2018, 01:56:39 PM
Not sure where to put this, but Twitch Prime subs have a pretty good list of free games being dished out this month over every few days.

Right now is Pillars of Eternity 1 with all DLC. Totally free if you have Amazon Prime and a Twitch account. https://blog.twitch.tv/get-ready-for-the-biggest-game-giveaway-in-twitch-prime-history-52e55aba19eb


fuck that, Twinkle Star Sprites was one of the free games

get on that, ya'll

seriously ya'll: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omczIBZiE0M


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on July 03, 2018, 03:31:04 PM
You have to install "The Twitch Desktop App".


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 03, 2018, 03:37:17 PM
but you don't to claim all this shit

so


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on July 05, 2018, 10:56:24 AM
No Man's Sky revamp coming on July 25.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 05, 2018, 01:49:04 PM
You have to install "The Twitch Desktop App".
A lot of minecrafters have it, since Twitch bought out Curse, which hosted a ton of modpacks.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on July 05, 2018, 03:29:13 PM
You have to install "The Twitch Desktop App".
A lot of minecrafters hate it, since Twitch bought out Curse, which hosted a ton of modpacks.
FIFY.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 06, 2018, 09:04:14 AM
Eh, it is what it is. I have a few artists friends who stream on twitch, so I don't mind too much. So many pointless updates, but it's a pretty minor annoyance imo.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on July 06, 2018, 10:28:24 AM
Twitch app is nowhere near as bloated as Steam, which crashes within 10 minutes of start. Constantly updating with 1+ minute updates, multiple times per day.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 06, 2018, 11:08:23 AM
I've never had Steam crash.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on July 06, 2018, 11:26:07 AM
Yeah what are you running Steam on? Say what you will about their business model, but their program runs pretty reliably for me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on July 06, 2018, 11:43:54 AM
Ditto.   Odd.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 06, 2018, 11:54:23 AM
i've had steam crash maybe 5 times since the actual day it launched

don't install it on your samsung smart fridge, hawkbit


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on July 06, 2018, 12:29:31 PM
I've never had problems with Steam. I have had numerous issues with Twitch and Minecraft not wanting to play nice together, and I use Twitch for nothing else. I've claimed a bunch of free "Twitch Prime" games but haven't even installed any of them yet.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on July 06, 2018, 01:56:50 PM
Thanks - apparently I have some cache to delete or something.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on July 06, 2018, 02:07:43 PM
I've heard the Steam overlay is prone to crashing but I don't have it enabled. Their crappy embedded Web browser can get stuck as well but that rarely causes an explicit app crash for me.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on July 06, 2018, 02:56:08 PM
The embedded web browser is exactly the problem in my case. Steam doesn't crash, the browser they're using hangs. Luckily clearing both dl and browser cache seems to have taken the edge off the problem. I still get the 'forever loading' icon in the top right of product pages though, which is the crappy browser problem.

It's better though, so we'll see how it does going forward.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jth on July 06, 2018, 07:35:03 PM
The embedded web browser is exactly the problem in my case. Steam doesn't crash, the browser they're using hangs. Luckily clearing both dl and browser cache seems to have taken the edge off the problem. I still get the 'forever loading' icon in the top right of product pages though, which is the crappy browser problem.

It's better though, so we'll see how it does going forward.

It's usually related to videos, sometimes the embedded browser chokes on them and doesn't recover without restarting Steam. The same thing happens with embedded YT videos in Steam forums.

Try unchecking the "autoplay videos" box on the product page video player.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on July 06, 2018, 11:08:39 PM
Good idea. Thanks!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on July 10, 2018, 03:00:42 PM
I made a 6 linked unique bow of the perfect colour tonight using only 6 orbs.

I was happy.

This news brought to you by the 'who gives a fuck' party.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ezrast on July 10, 2018, 04:08:27 PM
This is a good league but I'm having a hell of a time coming up with a build that interests me. I started out playing Dark Pact and it's good but Skeletons are huge trolls and casting it on myself isn't gimmicky enough for me (I'm a complete Timmy). Then I tried quad totem Storm Burst for a while before remembering that totems are super boring.

Has anyone tried out any of the new traps? They look pretty badass but they're still traps so I'm dubious.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on July 11, 2018, 02:56:06 AM
So :

Arc Trap Sabatour is Fucking awesome.

Elemental Hit Deadeye is Fucking Awesome.

Freezing Pulse Templar is Fucking Awesome.

Witch Necro Mage Skeletons is fucking Awesome.

Double Hit Champion is fucking awesome.


Basically, I'm having a BLAST in this new league and so should you.  All the old builds are better (Dark Pact Totems is, for example, wait for it, .....  Fucking Awesome) and the temple stuff is just great.  I'm loving building up to level 3 rooms and then having a blast in them with all the gimmicks.  Also, watching people corrupt all their good gear and it going 'poof'.

So.  Ask any questions if you want.  Traps are awesome.  Fucking Awesome.  To answer your question.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nija on July 11, 2018, 06:45:59 PM
What game are you guys talking about? Sounds like PoE. Is there some kind of database problem causing posts to get added to the wrong thread?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on July 11, 2018, 09:01:50 PM
Man, I've been playing Pillars of Eternity and here you are talking about Path of Exile and fuck acronyms.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on July 12, 2018, 03:35:50 AM
In fairness, I didn't see the point of unearthing the actual PoE thread to boast about my socketing prowess and thereafter answered the question posed.  However, if we get into build theory, I will take it to the right place. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on July 12, 2018, 07:32:41 AM
The PoE thread is still on the first page though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on July 12, 2018, 12:10:56 PM
So's yer maw.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ezrast on July 12, 2018, 05:16:44 PM
In my defense, I had no idea at the time that this wasn't the Path of Exile thread.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on July 13, 2018, 06:43:48 AM
None of this placement matters.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on July 18, 2018, 12:26:56 PM
Two Point Hospital (https://www.twopointhospital.com/) (aka Theme Hospital 2) coming August 29/30 (depending on timezone) for PC, Mac, Linux.

The developers for some reason claim it's *not* the spiritual successor to Theme Hospital but it is in fact such, including having an (annoying?) extermination mini-game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68rka63HEM0

Edit: fixed release date


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 18, 2018, 12:51:26 PM
wow i actually want to play that


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on July 20, 2018, 07:37:25 PM
Green Man Gaming has a summer sale going on including some flash sales.  I picked up the Fallout 4 season pass for like $15 in a flash sale yesterday and Mad Max is on sale for $4.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Tale on August 19, 2018, 08:48:03 PM
Pocket RPG, which is a well-liked Android game, is being given away free for the next couple of days: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tastypoisongames.prpg


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on August 23, 2018, 04:50:44 PM
Looks like pre-order sales for Battlefield 5 aren't going well to date, esp. when compared to other games coming out later this year.  On a related note, EA chief creative officer Patrick Söderlund has left the company.  After the poor sales for BF5 and the whole Star Wars BF 2 debacle, I can't say it's surprising.

"The firm’s analyst said preorders for “Battlefield V” are tracking more than 85 percent behind “Call of Duty: Black Ops 4,” which is substantially worse than previous instances."

https://venturebeat.com/2018/08/21/battlefield-v-preorders-are-below-expectations-but-it-isnt-about-to-bomb/

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/20/cowen-predicts-eas-battlefield-v-will-be-a-serious-disappointment-citing-weak-pre-orders.html


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on August 24, 2018, 03:13:12 PM
Soul Calibur 6 is coming out the same day, October 19. Then one week later is Red Dead Redemption 2, and two weeks later Fallout 76. Even with an unlimited budget, how does one find the time to play them all?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on August 24, 2018, 04:38:22 PM
Don't. Play something from your backlog and buy these in a year on Steam sale. Then never play them then either because your backlog is still full.  :oh_i_see:

I think I'm going to snag RDR2, but most other games this season I'm putting on sale watch. I want to play the new Assassin's Creed World of Greece - but there is literally no reason to buy an Ubisoft game at launch when two months later it will be on holiday sale for 30% off, or wait a year until all the season pass content is out and buy the 'full' game for $30 then.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on August 24, 2018, 04:42:23 PM
Your character in RDR2 sounds like an asshole. Not sure I'm going to want to play that sort of character.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on August 24, 2018, 07:35:40 PM
there is literally no reason to buy an Ubisoft game at launch when two months later it will be on holiday sale for 30% off, or wait a year until all the season pass content is out and buy the 'full' game for $30 then.

So true. It is clear by now that what they release is actually an fully priced Early Access game. And what you buy a year later -for half the price- is the real full, complete, finished, rebalanced, expanded, enriched game. True for ALL Ubisoft games of the last three or four years.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 24, 2018, 07:39:14 PM
there is literally no reason to buy an Ubisoft game at launch when two months later it will be on holiday sale for 30% off, or wait a year until all the season pass content is out and buy the 'full' game for $30 then.

So true. It is clear by now that what they release is actually an fully priced Early Access game. And what you buy a year later -for half the price- is the real full, complete, finished, rebalanced, expanded, enriched game. True for ALL Ubisoft games of the last three or four years.
true for every game ubisoft has released since DLC was invented

UBISoft is the worst case of "value drops the moment you drive off the lot" in gaming (though I wouldn't know about EA since I've continued my boycott since they announced Origin)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on August 31, 2018, 10:24:08 PM
Good video showing off Valve's and Mr. Magic: the gathering upcoming Dota 2 card game.

https://youtu.be/OzM18nlkYOc


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on September 03, 2018, 01:52:38 PM
Good video showing off Valve's and Mr. Magic: the gathering upcoming Dota 2 card game.

https://youtu.be/OzM18nlkYOc

So we get this instead of Half Life 3? :facepalm:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 03, 2018, 02:17:12 PM
this will make about 400x as much

So

Yes


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on September 05, 2018, 05:32:04 AM
After my experience with GTA V I'll only ever buy Rockstar releases a year after launch on sale, if ever. If RDR 2 is written by the same team as GTA V I'll probably massively hate it anyway.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on September 05, 2018, 05:41:08 AM
After my experience with GTA V I'll only ever buy Rockstar releases a year after launch on sale, if ever. If RDR 2 is written by the same team as GTA V I'll probably massively hate it anyway.

Does.  Not.  Compute.  I am guessing you are referring to technical issues (I never had even a glitch with GTA V)?  Moreover, GTA V and the original RDR probably both deserve to be in the conversation for being among the best games ever made.  Masterpieces, both of them.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on September 05, 2018, 06:19:28 AM
I hated every single character in that game and most of the story is basically "haha, look at those stupid Hollywood liberals" super-lame ironic late era South-Park level snark written by a bunch of 12 year olds. I'm also disappointed that the game didn't offer me a "nuke all 3 protagonists from orbit, burn their houses, salt their fields and drag their broken corpses through rusty nails and broken glass" option for the final mission because I would have taken it, gladly.

Comparing this to RDR - which is a honest to god fucking masterpiece (well except the part with Marsden jr. in the end) - is a travesty.

So you could say that I'm a tad disappointed with the way GTA V turned out.

I also know that I'm in the minority here but given that I really hated GTA V I've become exceptionally wary about RDR 2 and the trailers so far haven't convinced me otherwise. The RDR 2 protagonist so far feels like an utter cunt.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on September 05, 2018, 06:37:50 AM
I haven't played GTAV but I sympathize in principle. One of the things I loved best about RDR is that the protagonist was neither a complete dickbag nor a blank slate, but a decent guy in a bad situation. This made me actually care about the story, instead of just going crazy trying to see how many stars I can get before I die. If I want to just play Terms of En-Rampagement: The Game, I'll play Saint's Row which knows not to take itself seriously.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on September 05, 2018, 07:27:57 AM
Good video showing off Valve's and Mr. Magic: the gathering upcoming Dota 2 card game.

https://youtu.be/OzM18nlkYOc

Turns out there is no way to acquire cards in the game, you can only buy them. Like real M:tG. I wonder if this will hinder the popularity of this game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 05, 2018, 10:07:54 AM
Good video showing off Valve's and Mr. Magic: the gathering upcoming Dota 2 card game.

https://youtu.be/OzM18nlkYOc

Turns out there is no way to acquire cards in the game, you can only buy them. Like real M:tG. I wonder if this will hinder the popularity of this game.
not with the steam market it won't

also f2p is for losers


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on September 05, 2018, 11:06:18 AM
I wish they had done a Kickstarter where I could get drafts for life.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: taolurker on September 06, 2018, 01:35:46 AM
Black Desert Online’s Pearl Abyss to Acquire EVE Online’s CCP Games (https://wccftech.com/pearl-abyss-to-acquire-eve-onlines-ccp/)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on September 06, 2018, 02:13:16 AM
Black Desert Online’s Pearl Abyss to Acquire EVE Online’s CCP Games (https://wccftech.com/pearl-abyss-to-acquire-eve-onlines-ccp/)

CCP has come a long way from the days they were the ones doing the acquiring (of White Wolf)  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 06, 2018, 05:22:34 AM
Black Desert Online’s Pearl Abyss to Acquire EVE Online’s CCP Games (https://wccftech.com/pearl-abyss-to-acquire-eve-onlines-ccp/)

CCP has come a long way from the days they were the ones doing the acquiring (of White Wolf)  :oh_i_see:
Make shitty choices, get shitty prizes.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on September 06, 2018, 09:17:56 AM
EVE and Black Desert always had a lot in common. This is useless, but cool.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: taolurker on September 06, 2018, 11:29:40 AM
THQ Nordic picks up Kingdoms of Amalur IP from 38 Studios’ wreckage (https://www.polygon.com/2018/9/6/17826806/thq-nordic-kingdoms-of-amalur-38-studios)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: taolurker on September 06, 2018, 12:27:56 PM
Even more MMO news today  :ye_gods:

NCSoft shuts down WildStar dev Carbine Studios (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/325986/NCSoft_shuts_down_WildStar_dev_Carbine_Studios.php)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on September 06, 2018, 01:38:47 PM
I'm sure all three remaining players are furious.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 06, 2018, 02:32:38 PM
Really stretching the definition of news here.

Carbine still existing would probably put most folks into a Mandela Effect loop.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on September 06, 2018, 06:53:13 PM
Hey, look.  More good gaming news.

https://www.pcgamer.com/daybreak-games-shutters-h1z1-survival-game-just-survive/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Teleku on September 07, 2018, 01:40:47 AM
"We are no longer in a position to fulfill its greatness."

Greatness.  lol.


"Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!"


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on September 07, 2018, 02:46:01 AM
Fuck all this noise ;  tell me about Spiderman !

If I have to, I'm going to just buy a PS4 for it today, so tell me the game's great....


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 07, 2018, 08:48:21 AM
Fuck all this noise ;  tell me about Spiderman !

If I have to, I'm going to just buy a PS4 for it today, so tell me the game's great....
I haven't played enough to say it's great (only had a couple hours to play last night) but it's a fine excuse if you want to get a PS4 (Pro). And there are several other excellent PS4 exclusives available with more coming.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on September 07, 2018, 08:50:15 AM
Wait, in the tech thread you said NOT pro.  WHY CHANGE UR PRO STANCE TRIPPY ??!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on September 07, 2018, 09:08:32 AM
I mean, I traded in my xbonex for the spidey ps4 pro. Not the only reason, but I've been thinking about switching it up for a while and the gameplay looks shallow but fun. I'm all about shallow but fun.

 :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 07, 2018, 09:42:04 AM
Wait, in the tech thread you said NOT pro.  WHY CHANGE UR PRO STANCE TRIPPY ??!
There are more games now that are "optimized" for the Pro (and more that are coming) and there's better support for gaming at 1080p* (what I run at) now on the Pro. Basically I broke down and got one in February for Monster Hunter: World** cause it provided multiple options on the Pro even at 1080p (you can choose between resolution, graphics quality or frame rate).

If you are on 1080p I would still say it's optional. With a 4K display, especially 4K HDR, there's more of a reason to get one, though it's still not true 4K gaming, and not as good as the Xbox One X.

* They added the option for 4K supersampling support if the game supports 4K and you are running in 1080p with a System update after I posted that originally. I.e. for games that support 4K you have the option now for better anti-aliasing if you are running at 1080p, though potentially with a frame rate hit.
** Also cause that's when they released the Glacier White version to match my Glacier White regular PS4 :awesome_for_real:

Edit: here's the post Ironwood was referring to: http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=14149.4060


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on September 08, 2018, 01:07:52 AM
Time to replay one of the greatest games ever made, System Shock 1:

For the first time ever, System Shock has been rebuilt from the original source code as a FREE update to all owners of the game!

System Shock: Enhanced Edition features:
- Higher resolution support up to 4K widescreen mode
- Mouselook support
- Rebindable keyboard/mouse/joystick commands
- Adapted to Nightdive's KEX engine
- Support for both Direct3D and OpenGL
- Option to switch between hi-resolution Mac assets and the original DOS assets
- Official support for fan missions and fan mods
- New unified options menu that allows changing preferences before gameplay
- Adjustable FOV (Field of View)
- Smoother camera rotation and translation
- Improved control scheme which allows faster and streamlined experience
- In-Game remappable keys with three profiles to choose from: original controls, custom controls, and lefthanded controls.
- Many original game bugs fixed.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on September 08, 2018, 02:48:28 AM
So play it before it gets cease and desisted?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on September 08, 2018, 10:48:53 AM
So play it before it gets cease and desisted?

I was in a hurry: it's a patch made by Night Dive Studios, which acquired the rights to do a remastered version a few years ago (then rebooted the whole thing):

http://www.nightdivestudios.com/games/

Anyways, SS1: Enhanced Edition is available on both GOG and Steam (and it's on sale on the latter for just €4.99)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on September 09, 2018, 09:38:23 AM
It is to my undying shame that I must admit that I never actually finished the original System Shock. I loved the concept, but the bizarre and unremappable control scheme just became too much of a chore after a while.

So thanks to Night Dive looks like I'll get a second chance.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 09, 2018, 10:04:26 AM
wait

you can remap it now?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on September 09, 2018, 10:54:15 AM
wait

you can remap it now?

Quote

Rebindable keyboard/mouse/joystick commands


Looks like!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on September 10, 2018, 07:15:47 AM
I was doing well until I got trapped in a small room with large grenade-throwing monsters.  Will see if I can obtain.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on September 21, 2018, 04:50:56 PM
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/09/telltale-games-begins-wave-of-layoffs-cancels-stranger-things-game/

Telltale are out of business. Everyone but a skeleton crew fired, and the latest update is that they're just finishing up porting Minecraft Story Mode to Netflix, and then they're gone too. The final season of Walking Dead is cancelled.

Looks like the deal with Netflix for a Stranger Things game that was announced around E3 fell through, and that was the final nail in the coffin. Reports are that the company has not seen a profitable title since the first season of Walking Dead, and abysmal mismanagement bears a large part of the blame.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on September 22, 2018, 06:02:35 AM
They're making a Minecraft Story Mode show? Or Netflix is going to start having "games"?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on September 22, 2018, 10:05:29 AM
Did the Stranger Things deal fall through, or was it a casualty of the collapse?

I didn't realize Telltale was in such trouble, but looking at the events of the past few years now yeah, anytime you bring in anyone to run your company that used to be a VP at Zynga you got to be making some more bad decisions.

I have often wondered if their critical success was really translating into sales, or if they were another Broderbund software with a really cool game (The Last Express) that not enough people ever actually played.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Teleku on September 22, 2018, 11:09:58 AM
Well, I enjoyed everything I played by them (walking dead and Wolf Among Us were both particularly excellent).  They seemed a super solid company for the genre, but the games they make really don't need 250 people to create.  So that's probably the heart of the problem. 

Sad to hear though.  There was obviously a lot of talent there.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 22, 2018, 11:58:13 AM
The mismanagement at Telltale started long before they brought in Pete Hawley from Zynga. If The Verge is to be believed the co-founder and CEO for a time Kevin Bruner is an egomaniacal tyrant who drove many of the best people at the company out including the devs who would go on to create Firewatch and Oxenfee.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/20/17130056/telltale-games-developer-layoffs-toxic-video-game-industry


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on September 22, 2018, 03:19:44 PM
Yeah I should have read that article before posting. It actually makes Hawley seem like an okay guy.

 At least someone who can fire you humainly...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on September 23, 2018, 05:15:41 AM
New Death Stranding trailer: https://youtu.be/3iF9LgQ3e7Y



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on September 23, 2018, 11:28:33 AM
I still don't have one fucking clue what this game is, and giant shadow dogs with butthole mouths made from rain shadows don't help with that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 23, 2018, 12:20:33 PM
It's an open world stealth action game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on September 23, 2018, 07:52:58 PM
Not sure how popular Fist of the North Star was in the USA, but in Italy in the 80s it was more than huge, it was everything. Anyway, after many many many shitty games, looks like finally a good one is coming. Here's a trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N30cf_KJbII but most importantly the demo is already available on Playstation Network and it's way better than I hope. In fact, I might actually get it on day 1.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on September 23, 2018, 09:04:57 PM
Reminds me of that black and white Wii game Mad World.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on September 23, 2018, 10:00:03 PM
Battlefield 5 has an...interesting language filter. :awesome_for_real: :facepalm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl55Dq0o36E


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on September 24, 2018, 07:59:04 AM
“I can’t right now, my bullets are tired” was pretty damn funny.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on September 24, 2018, 12:48:11 PM
Not sure how popular Fist of the North Star was in the USA,

Noni?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 24, 2018, 01:31:04 PM
Battlefield 5 has an...interesting language filter. :awesome_for_real: :facepalm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl55Dq0o36E
Worst laugh I've ever heard on a stream.

I'm sure there ARE worse, I just haven't heard them.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on September 24, 2018, 03:44:46 PM
Worst laugh I've ever heard on a stream.

I'm sure there ARE worse, I just haven't heard them.

I don't get the appeal of 'Angry Joe' (or most game 'influencers' to be honest) at all.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on September 24, 2018, 04:09:16 PM
Worst laugh I've ever heard on a stream.

I'm sure there ARE worse, I just haven't heard them.

I don't get the appeal of 'Angry Joe' (or most game 'influencers' to be honest) at all.

Why do I always get shouted at by American Youtubers? Don’t they have microphones where they live?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 24, 2018, 04:13:08 PM
It's US law that all people who shout in microphones must have the crappiest microphones possible.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on September 24, 2018, 04:53:48 PM
It's not a bad idea to have a crappy mic if all you do is shout into it because you would break a good mic pretty quickly that way.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on September 24, 2018, 05:20:12 PM
It's US law that all people who shout in microphones must have the crappiest microphones possible.


Clipping means you mean it!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on September 25, 2018, 01:58:30 AM
If you always wanted to get suckered in the black hole that is "hidden object" games (in this specific case, there are a little more puzzles than normal), "The Tiny Bang Story" is currently free to grab on Steam.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/96000/The_Tiny_Bang_Story/

Why on earth Steam is telling me that I have 18.3 hrs of /played with that game?  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on September 27, 2018, 11:42:25 AM
Anyone know anything about this Witcher game on gog I just got an email about? Looks like maybe a 3d isometric with gwent combat?

https://www.gog.com/game/thronebreaker_the_witcher_tales


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ceryse on September 27, 2018, 02:54:21 PM
Anyone know anything about this Witcher game on gog I just got an email about? Looks like maybe a 3d isometric with gwent combat?

https://www.gog.com/game/thronebreaker_the_witcher_tales

It's basically single player Gwent campaign, from what I understand.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on September 27, 2018, 06:00:43 PM
Speaking of new digital card games, Magic: The Gathering Arena is now in open beta.

https://magic.wizards.com/en/mtgarena


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 27, 2018, 06:25:52 PM
don't do it


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on September 27, 2018, 07:14:20 PM
don't do it

Why not give it a try?  Hex is pretty much DOA at this point.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 27, 2018, 07:41:16 PM
i'm kidding, i don't care

i'm actually going through the tutorial now, i mostly just wanted the name schild tho


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on September 28, 2018, 09:41:27 AM
I played it in beta. It's Magic and it's a decent iteration of Magic, though its interface reminds me more of those singleplayer Magic games they released a few years ago. It does a terrible job of explaining the flow of the game, the cards have keyword text on them that it also doesn't explain very well sometimes (so it's tough for newbies to understand what it does or those who might not have played Magic in every release) and it's deck construction interface is fuckawful (Yes, Hex's was better though still bad). There's only I think 2 formats as well. It won't replace MODO for hardcore players.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 28, 2018, 10:24:52 AM
the tutorial is fine now, even though it teaches people to make misplays

it's very clear


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Druzil on September 28, 2018, 10:43:28 AM
As a very casual magic player I'm finding it fun so far.  My biggest gripe was it looked like there was no friends list (or way to play against a friend?).  Can always chat in discord but at least playing against a friend would be nice.

I have a lot of cards to learn, I have not played in quite awhile.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on October 01, 2018, 12:03:27 PM
Google is testing a game streaming service using Assassin's Creed Odyssey. Sign ups here:

https://projectstream.google.com/aco/signup


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on October 01, 2018, 07:12:51 PM
I very briefly thought about buying ACO today, but holding off for a sale like I promised myself I would. What really turned me off was the newest marketing scheme:

Game: $60
Game & Deluxe: $80
Game & Season Pass: $100
Game, Deluxe & Season Pass: $120

That's... a lot of money to get the whole game. Also, only the $100 and $120 versions provide gameplay tonight; the proletariat has to wait until Friday.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on October 01, 2018, 07:21:27 PM
You are missing 3 other editions that include in-game content not included in your list.

And the game has non-cosmetic-only microtransactions.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 03, 2018, 06:12:09 AM
I was also looking at AC:O and balked at the pricing scheme. Luckily, I've never really gotten into the series, so I figure I'll wait for a sale or just forget about it.

RDR2 is also exorbitant, with the top tier being multi-player only perks. And no season pass even available. I bit the bullet on it (one tier up from the bottom), because Rockstar, but it pretty much ruled out any more purchases for me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on October 03, 2018, 07:46:13 AM
The same with Forza Horizon 4.

Half a dozen different editions, $99 for the deluxe edition, another $25 for the season pass. Shameless and obnoxious game pass promotion on the XBox and PC version is windows store only.

So no buy for me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on October 09, 2018, 05:06:26 PM
There’s a rumor floating around that Microsoft intends to buy Obsidian.
Not that this makes much sense if true


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on October 10, 2018, 11:19:33 AM
The good/non-desperate independent game studios know to stay far far away from Microsoft so their acquisitions targets are limited.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 10, 2018, 07:42:13 PM
Obsidian SHOULD get picked up by Microsoft. They're basically done at this point, might as well shiv them to death.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on October 12, 2018, 01:37:52 PM
The same with Forza Horizon 4.

Half a dozen different editions, $99 for the deluxe edition, another $25 for the season pass. Shameless and obnoxious game pass promotion on the XBox and PC version is windows store only.

So no buy for me.

The $100 'ultimate' edition includes the season pass (two as-yet unnamed expansions and the first few waves of DLC cars).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Draegan on October 13, 2018, 05:40:37 AM
Is Pathfinder Kingmaker any good? Worth $40?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Tebonas on October 13, 2018, 06:01:53 AM
Its still buggy as hell. Better avoid it until most of the bugs are patched out.

I mean, I enjoyed the hell out of it, but all the broken quests are annoying. One patch a location for a quest doesn't appear on the overland map, the next day a quest script is bugged out and a quest NPC doesn't respond anymore, the third day your Throne room is filled with people that should have despawned after their respective quest was done.

Give it a few weeks to months, then you might enjoy it. Right now my paranoia that I break another long quest chain again overshadows all the fun I have with the rest of the game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on October 13, 2018, 01:45:53 PM
It is incredibly buggy, and is currently impossible to complete without some seriously game-fucking issues, especially regarding your companions.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on October 14, 2018, 11:27:35 AM
Set your PS4 messages to private unless you like factory resetting your system. It's another one of those fucking emoji message crashes that plagues messaging apps. Some say deleting the messages through other means (Messaging phone app or online) will work; others say it will not.

https://old.reddit.com/r/PS4/comments/9nselm/warning_set_your_messages_to_private/
https://old.reddit.com/r/PS4/comments/9nu0m8/solution_to_the_messaging_glitch_no_factory_reset/

Edit: for US users you can do this through your browser by:

* Sign in to https://my.playstation.com/

* Click/tap "Profile" near the top left

* Click/tap "Privacy Settings" below your profile pic on the left

* Finally from left to right "PSN Privacy Settings" -> "Personal Info | Messaging" -> "Messages" Edit -> No One, or Friends Only if you are super trusting


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on October 14, 2018, 07:22:54 PM
Thanks Trippy. Time to reign it in from Friends Only to No One. :)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 17, 2018, 09:38:42 AM
So back when I had my original xbox, we enjoyed a bit of Soul Caliber 2 now and again. I saw the new version pop up on the PS4 and WTF with the dated horrible graphics? I'd think a game that has to render a static arena and two characters would be stunning, but it looks awful.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on October 17, 2018, 11:01:14 AM
No it's actually awesome looking. For some reason even HD videos don't do it any justice. I was as disappointed as you are since this is one of my favourite franchises ever, but then I tried the demo and made peace with the world.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 17, 2018, 11:35:07 AM
Low res textures and little to no mapping? Okeedoke.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bunk on October 17, 2018, 01:45:55 PM
Apparently Geralt of Rivia is the bonus "I don't belong in this game" character.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on October 17, 2018, 01:51:22 PM
So back when I had my original xbox, we enjoyed a bit of Soul Caliber 2 now and again. I saw the new version pop up on the PS4 and WTF with the dated horrible graphics? I'd think a game that has to render a static arena and two characters would be stunning, but it looks awful.
First, video streaming through the PSN store sucks horribly with the video often upscaled and the audio is almost always way too loud for some fucking reason. So it's better to switch to YouTube (with the resolution properly set) and watch those things on there.

As for the graphics I get what you are saying. If you are used to something like Mass Effect or Dragon Age with their ridiculously over-budgeted and over-the-top material shaders the textures in Soulcalibur VI look very flat in comparison. They are also not helped by the way things are lit, which often flattens the textures even more. Also Namco Bandai fighting games in general are not known for their graphics prowess. If you look at Tekken 7, for example, it also has that dated graphics look (though it's a different dev team).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on October 17, 2018, 03:06:02 PM
Exactly, it is not Assassin's Creed but it looks way better when you play it than any video I have seen.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on October 22, 2018, 07:13:32 PM
Looks like Trion has been sold to Gamigo. :awesome_for_real:  Word is there were huge layoffs and Trion only has about 25 people left. :sad:

https://massivelyop.com/2018/10/22/trion-worlds-has-been-sold-to-gamigo-and-yes-there-have-been-more-layoffs/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on October 23, 2018, 05:07:47 AM
I didn't realize they even had 25 people left.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 23, 2018, 09:01:40 AM
Thronebreaker is out.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Tale on October 23, 2018, 03:51:18 PM
Every Red Dead Redemption 2 Tombstone to Feature Names of Real Developers Who Died During Production (https://thehardtimes.net/harddrive/every-red-dead-redemption-2-tombstone-to-feature-names-of-real-developers-who-died-during-production/)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 23, 2018, 04:40:59 PM
-_-


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 26, 2018, 12:17:38 PM
Tacky?  Or just something game devs think is OK?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on October 26, 2018, 12:20:58 PM
Or maybe it's the video games version of The Onion?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 27, 2018, 12:44:04 PM
I didn't even click the link, it's the hard times

lol, that's p good


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on October 27, 2018, 03:43:29 PM
2b from Nier:Automata coming to Soulcalibur. Pretty cool.

https://youtu.be/iG12BqJLdp4


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on October 31, 2018, 08:52:44 AM
Football Manager 2019 launch trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP6Osa26_7g

Seriously, they did a fantastic job, IMO: no matter how popular it is, it's still a mainly text-driven management sim, but they managed to touch upon the most satisfying aspects of the game, while generating hype in the process.

(And I really like the "Their glory is your story" slogan)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shannow on November 01, 2018, 08:38:37 AM
The FM developers are very competent crack dealers.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Father mike on November 02, 2018, 12:09:09 PM
BlizzCon giveaway - Destiny 2 base game.

https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/blizzard/22649418/destiny-2-pc-free-on-battle-net-through-november-18 (https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/blizzard/22649418/destiny-2-pc-free-on-battle-net-through-november-18)

Must claim by Nov 18.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on November 02, 2018, 12:56:27 PM
Still not worth it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: SurfD on November 03, 2018, 08:16:22 AM
BlizzCon giveaway - Destiny 2 base game.

https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/blizzard/22649418/destiny-2-pc-free-on-battle-net-through-november-18 (https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/blizzard/22649418/destiny-2-pc-free-on-battle-net-through-november-18)

Must claim by Nov 18.
How viable is the base game?  Like, are you going to be playing in a virtual wasteland with nobody to group with due to lack of expansions?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Father mike on November 03, 2018, 07:31:56 PM
I'm going to guess that there will be plenty of activity with the giveaway. 

Can't speak to the quality of said activity, nor its longevity.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on November 04, 2018, 07:45:03 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/KJQI1H3.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on November 04, 2018, 10:19:03 AM
BE THERE.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on November 04, 2018, 10:38:58 AM
I will. I really enjoyed that game for a couple of weeks. It's not Auto Assault, but I'll take it  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on November 04, 2018, 01:49:30 PM
The discussion seems to imply it’s single player only. I think about that game a lot though. Warframe feels like it has a Hellgate ancestor somewhere in the family, though it has never grabbed me the many times I’ve tried.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on November 04, 2018, 02:39:03 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/KJQI1H3.jpg)

Jesus, they should have hired a native English speaker to write the description.  Instead, they gave it to us in Engrish. :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on November 04, 2018, 07:00:55 PM
I really like that it is "AN action game you have been waiting for". That's refreshingly modest. Not THE action game, but you know, one among some number of them.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Wasted on November 05, 2018, 12:20:40 AM
Yeah..yeah I'm back with Hellgate...no its not like that, he's given up all that dodgy online shit, its just me and him now.  It's going to be much better this time, I'm sure.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on November 05, 2018, 08:24:56 AM
There are dozens of us!  Dozens!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on November 06, 2018, 11:43:37 AM
New trailer for the upcoming last chapter of Michalski's Cat Lady/Downfall trilogy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqgQBfGWrMk

Great.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on November 11, 2018, 04:23:21 AM
That Korean Lost Ark game looks rather spiffy.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Draegan on November 11, 2018, 08:00:21 AM
That things has been in development forever.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on November 11, 2018, 08:12:29 AM
Microsoft officially announces acquisitions of Obsidian and inXile
https://www.polygon.com/2018/11/10/17959500/obsidian-xbox-acquired-x018-new-vegas-pillars-eternity


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on November 14, 2018, 03:35:41 PM
Microsoft with their impeccable timing, buying Obsidian just after PoE 2 flopped hard and a lot of their top talent bailed.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on November 14, 2018, 03:52:08 PM
It's too bad, because PoE 2 was close to being really good.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on November 16, 2018, 04:10:56 PM
Thanks for the Hellgate update.  I  :heart:  you all. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on November 18, 2018, 12:30:49 AM
Why is there no Artifact thread? Also, what's this rumor I'm hearing? NO TRADING at launch? Isn't the whole point of this game not being free and not having any free card that your assets can be traded and sold? You can answer me in the Artifact thread (!).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on November 18, 2018, 05:53:14 AM
There's no reason to have an artifact thread yet? Anyway, yeah. No trading at launch. I don't even know how to properly express how weird that is either. It's a decision that makes no sense.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on November 18, 2018, 07:56:39 AM
And yet it seems familiar.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on November 18, 2018, 09:28:30 AM
Digging deeper, it seems that you can sell and buy cards from the marketplace, you just can't decide who to sell them to. So you can't give your friends your unused cards and can't sell to a specific person, apparently to prevent third party bullshit, which leaves us the customers with first party bullshit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on November 18, 2018, 10:05:45 AM
Still better than arena.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on November 18, 2018, 10:21:32 AM
I have to imagine they'll break on that. Or build in a trading solution. They don't have much of a choice.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Teleku on November 18, 2018, 08:42:41 PM
They are going to add in phantom draft, so that should appease the mob a bit.

Don't really care about the trading thing since it's pretty rare to be directly trading cards, and not just buying/selling.  I'm sure they'll build in a trading system eventually but can understand why its not a priority for launch.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on November 19, 2018, 12:13:30 AM
Also, we'll be able to recycle unwanted cards into event tickets. This is really good.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on November 29, 2018, 02:44:35 AM
We discussed Crossout a long time ago. It's an Auto Assault (!) inspired arena game from the War Thunder people. It has a lot of those "MMORPGy" things common to World of Tanks and the likes. Also, it has a very, very cool building system. You can assemble cars, tanks, trucks, in unthinkable ways, and they look good.
But I bring it up today cause they added today a PvE co-op open region to go explore and adventure in, do quests and so on. It scales with your level. This game has issues (cheaters, unbalanced builds, silly "gas/energy" stuff) but it's a gem.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on December 02, 2018, 03:44:02 AM
New MechWarrior 5 trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCXcFJBb6BM


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Father mike on December 02, 2018, 06:32:19 AM
That looks ... fast.  Like the mechs don't lfeel like multi-ton machines at all.

Never played it, but is that how MWO feels?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on December 02, 2018, 08:15:21 AM
No, seems faster than MWO.  Same engine though, so could be sped up for the trailer.

One thing that bugs me, as an MWO veteran, is the destructible buildings ;  if you have to keep any of them intact for a contract, you're gonna be fucked.   :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on December 02, 2018, 03:37:42 PM
Might have a big impact on your strategic design making--if you have buildings to protect, you need to do whatever you can to engage elsewhere no matter what, even if at a disavantage. But in any conflict where that's the priority, you have to be able to constrain where the enemy deploys or it's pointless. If I'm meant to protect an asset but the enemy can drop right next to the asset, I'm auto-screwed in real life or a game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sir T on December 03, 2018, 03:04:20 PM
That looks ... fast.  Like the mechs don't lfeel like multi-ton machines at all.

Never played it, but is that how MWO feels?

There's a fair amount of gameplay videos on youtube, but my favorite MWO vid is this video advertising one of their Hero Premium Mechs, The "Misery" Stalker Assault Mech.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVnkBs9WQMM


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on December 05, 2018, 10:19:17 AM
New Far Cry wants to steal that disgruntled Fallout fan base.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKseXjx_668


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 06, 2018, 07:11:27 AM
After FC5, I'm ready. That game was badass. Though I'm biased due to my experience with that one redneck soldier girl who I kept in my truck's turret because her running commentary was fucking amazing.

I mean, just thinking about it I kinda want to fire it up again just to hear her yell while she shoots... well, everything.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on December 06, 2018, 08:05:32 AM
So, three "superclassic" games have recently come out in their "remastered" version:

R-Type & R-Type II :
https://store.steampowered.com/app/928390/RType_Dimensions_EX/

Bitmap Brothers' GODS:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/628720/GODS_Remastered/

Last but not least....FLASHBACK (DOS version, not the Amiga one; for now only on GOG, should be on Steam in the next few weeks):
https://www.gog.com/game/flashback

(the first two games are not available on GOG)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on December 06, 2018, 10:29:50 AM
Jings, that's some quality nostalgia there....


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on December 06, 2018, 12:17:12 PM
My first game against that turbofog shite in Arena.

That's just no fun.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on December 06, 2018, 01:06:17 PM
There is a deck that milled the fuck out of me in Arena involving discards for every card my opponent drew. It was a right pisser so I just conceded and moved on.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on December 06, 2018, 01:28:33 PM
See, here's the thing about Psychic Corrosion and Patient rebuilding (the deck you probably fought) :

It's beatable and can be fun and is not bullshit.  One guy milled 40 cards out of me at 1 life to win in a scrape that must have been exciting for both of us.  I doffed my cap to the motherfucker, even as I swore to the heavens.

However, having a card that says 'Take another turn' that you can replay and replay, stopping the other player from even playing a turn ?

THAT'S SOME FUCKING BULLSHIT.

So, you know, I was a little annoyed.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on December 06, 2018, 02:09:34 PM
Hey guys

Welcome to magic

Nice to see haemish still hates mill like his dad beat him with a sack of millstones


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on December 06, 2018, 02:38:53 PM
Yep, I still do. But the fact I haven't spent a dime on the game makes the hurting a lot less.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on December 06, 2018, 02:39:50 PM
Yeah, Arena is good like that.

Also, not spending is really good after Hex.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on December 06, 2018, 02:43:00 PM
I also got royally raped by a deck that used Tetsuko Umezawa, Fugitive to make 4 Rat Colony that were 5/1 unblockable and killed me in 1 turn. I had to tip my cap to that one.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on December 06, 2018, 06:19:06 PM
Yeah, Arena is good like that.

Also, not spending is really good after Hex.
I thought most of us only spent money on Hex the once?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on December 06, 2018, 08:40:18 PM
Mtg arena code: GAMEAWARDS
25 cards


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on December 06, 2018, 11:22:11 PM
whatever the gameawards are

they happened

supergiant launched some diablo horseshit on epic's platform, it doesn't seem to have loot but it's definitely trying to be diablo
farcry new dawn is ubisoft trying to make a fallout game do they have what it takes does anyone care

AND THEN THERE'S THIS RIGHT HYEA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGLTgt0EEqc

i'm moist


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on December 06, 2018, 11:28:53 PM
Interesting.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on December 06, 2018, 11:44:45 PM
Wait.  Wait. 

So...that's like Fallout: Space! meets Borderlands meets Firefly?

Or what?

When did Obsidian become Bethesda and Bethesda become Obsidian.

Do want.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on December 06, 2018, 11:57:04 PM
I hope it's more Fallout than Borderlands but I'm excited especially since it's supposed to be out in 2019 instead of some undetermined future.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on December 07, 2018, 01:42:43 AM
A furry, who happens to be one of the most talented fighting games player ever, is eSport player of the year. I am happy about it.

https://youtu.be/pyR-8Fcbf48


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on December 07, 2018, 02:15:39 AM
Fallout: New Vegas in spaaaaace (the description on Steam also lists companions and factions)  :awesome_for_real:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/578650/The_Outer_Worlds/

(https://steamcdn-a.akamaihd.net/steam/apps/578650/ss_4fe162d9752bc89c2de14ba549ffb6a6260b09aa.jpg?t=1544151950)


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Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Druzil on December 07, 2018, 04:40:29 AM
New MGTA code, gets you a handful of cards

GAMEAWARDS

1x Cleansing Nova
1x Ghalta, Primal Hunger
1x Risk Factor
1x Search for Azcanta
1x Vraska's Contempt

4x Conclave Tribunal
4x The Eldest Reborn
4x Lava Coil
4x Merfolk Branchwater
4x Sinister Sabotage


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on December 07, 2018, 07:51:58 AM
I actually went ahead and gave Magic Arena $5 for that one-time starter pack - 6 core set packs and 2500 gems. Figured it was too good a deal to pass up even though I didn't really get much out of the packs.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on December 07, 2018, 08:07:53 AM
That one is a good deal.  I took it too when I started.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 07, 2018, 11:37:03 AM
Far Cry New Dawn is going to be set in Hope County (setting for FC5). Some pretty fun looking stuff going on. Between this and Outer Worlds, Bethesda is going to be in a dogfight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjYyVjzV7qk


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on December 07, 2018, 04:35:56 PM
I am never playing a Far Cry again. I don't care what anyone says about it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on December 09, 2018, 10:51:28 AM
Dauntless is in open beta now.  Has anyone given it a go?  It seems to be mostly a game where you beat up big monsters... I'm not sure but that might be about it. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on December 09, 2018, 11:13:06 AM
Dauntless is in open beta now.  Has anyone given it a go?  It seems to be mostly a game where you beat up big monsters... I'm not sure but that might be about it. 
Yes it's a game where you beat up boss-style monsters -- i.e. each monster or "behemoth" takes a while to kill. From what I've seen and heard about the game it's nowhere near as good as Monster Hunter: World which I already have so I'd rather just play that if I'm in the monster hunting mode. On the other hand Dauntless is free-to-play so give it a try if it sounds interesting to you?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on December 09, 2018, 11:23:58 AM
Yes, I dl'd it and killed a big monster and then a big monster killed me.  I was just wondering what you guys thought about it if you played.  I'm not sure I want to waste the precious time left in this world searching for something else to do.  Because my time IS precious.  Because I'm old.  And because I could get hit by a meteor or a bus at any time.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on December 10, 2018, 04:13:03 AM
What's this Ashen shit ?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on December 10, 2018, 04:42:12 AM
A *Souls clone with no darkness, so no point.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on December 10, 2018, 05:40:55 AM
My favourite trailer/reveal of the Game Awards: Sayonara Wild Hearts - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiRNA78Md2c


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on December 10, 2018, 07:33:33 AM
My favourite trailer/reveal of the Game Awards: Sayonara Wild Hearts - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiRNA78Md2c

eh

i'd rather just listen to The Midnight


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 10, 2018, 11:20:20 AM
So little chance of this not being screwed up. 3rd person, open world survival in ancient africa. Great ideas, high concept, deep simulation, large publisher and fun are not things that tend to work out together. But it would be nice if it did!

Ancestors: The Humankind Odyssey (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPvoghEm9Ow)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on December 10, 2018, 01:39:33 PM
what the fuck did i just watch


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 10, 2018, 01:59:02 PM
 :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on December 10, 2018, 10:29:23 PM
Well, an open world game where I am a primate that can't hunt, use tools or even build anything with my fledgling opposable thumbs....I mean, that's pretty realistic.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Father mike on December 13, 2018, 10:24:06 AM
GOG has started their Winter Sale.  Free copy of LucasArts adventure 'Full Throttle' just for stopping by! 

It also has 24 hr flash sales.  Day one titles are mostly titles I'd never heard of.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Father mike on January 01, 2019, 06:56:03 PM
The new Star Control game from StarDock has been removed from Steam and GOG with a DMCA notice from the original creators.  Brad Wardell puts his spin on it here

https://steamcommunity.com/app/271260/discussions/1/1742229167221237036/ (https://steamcommunity.com/app/271260/discussions/1/1742229167221237036/)

There's lots of back-and-forth, but from what I can tell, the original contract between the creators (Paul Ritche and Fred Ford) and Accolade had provisions to revert the rights back to the creators after a certain date (?2001?).  This contract want thru several buyouts and eventually ended up with Atari (Infogrames) who purchased an extension and permanent rights to "marketing materials" and made the unloved Star Contol 3.  StarDock bought these rights when Atari went thru bankruptcy in 2013. 

Here's the sticky bit.  It would appear that StarDock just bought the NAME.  The rights specifically did NOT include any aliens, ships, etc.  These had all reverted to Ritche and Ford, per the original agreement with Accolade.  Legal wrangling ensues over exactly what StarDock actually owns.  But while the courts are still deciding, StarDock put in the Zot-Fot-Pik as an easter egg, and then decided to release DLCs with the Arilou and Chenjesu.  At which point the original creators files DMCA takedowns on Steam and GOG.

Post your StarDock/Wardell hate below!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on January 02, 2019, 11:13:06 AM
Wardell knew what he was doing was illegal but did it anyway and then had the temerity to claim he is the aggrieved party. Fortunately the courts aren't so gullible. On rejecting Stardock's request for an injunction on the DMCA claim against them the Honorable Senior United States District Judge Sandra Brown Armstrong wrote:

Quote
In view of the foregoing, the harm Plaintiff complains of is indeed of its own making. Plaintiff had knowledge of Defendants’ copyright claims from the outset. Despite that knowledge, it developed potentially infringing material without resolution of the IP ownership issues, and then publicized the release of that material during the pendency of this action. It now claims that its investment in Origins and reputation are on the line. Given that Plaintiff largely created the foregoing predicament, the Court is disinclined to extricate Plaintiff from a peril of its own making.

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.320268/gov.uscourts.cand.320268.102.0.pdf


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on January 02, 2019, 11:22:42 AM
I love sassy judges.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on January 02, 2019, 11:50:26 AM
Goddamn but Brad Wardell is a sleazy, gaping dickhole.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on January 02, 2019, 11:57:17 AM
I'm still never over Kael going to Stardock and shitting out a bland Wardell game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on January 02, 2019, 11:58:04 AM
FFH2 reference FTW!

 :cthulu: :dead_horse: :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 04, 2019, 08:03:41 AM
If anyone has a way to get me into the closed alpha of Amazon's New World, please hook me up. I'll pay in hugs, cheers and eventually stuff if you specify what kind.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Draegan on January 04, 2019, 11:26:44 AM
Yeah me too.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on January 04, 2019, 11:48:10 AM
Quote
About the product:

Join forces with scores of other players
I'm out.


edited to add: That said, if I can play a Mohawk brave that just raids player settlements, I'd check it out  :drill:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 04, 2019, 12:01:07 PM
It's supposed to be the first big western MMORPG sandbox since Star Wars Galaxies. Which incidentally also makes it only the fourth big western MMORPG sandbox to ever be released (IF it will be released), and the first in more than 15 years.
Chances of being a good game? Very low. Chances of being something I'll enjoy too much and will be remembering fondly in 2038? Very high.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 06, 2019, 03:25:05 AM
Crowfall is almost cool now. Can we move that thread from the graveyard to this board so I can write stuff in it not just for myself? I know a few here are curious about it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 06, 2019, 08:25:27 AM
Crowfall is almost cool now. Can we move that thread from the graveyard to this board so I can write stuff in it not just for myself? I know a few here are curious about it.
you can write it here and make your case for nonsense


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 06, 2019, 12:22:22 PM
Shadowbane with less SB.exe and with more Raph Koster!

Anyway, I backed this game four years ago because Raph Koster, Shadowbane, and all that. I put a lot of money into it cause sometimes all the time I enjoy getting overexcited about games. After the first few tests I was quite disappointed. Of course it was pre-alpha, but I couldn't see even the roots of the things that were promised and what was there felt janky beyond repair.

It's now 2019 and while it is obviously still alpha, there is an actual game you can play with lots of the promised features already working.

The first sanctioned "campaign" just started which means we can create characters choosing between 10 races and 10 classes, choose a faction, enter the game world, and actually play for real. It is still very janky, but here are some of the few things I noticed, and mind that they are all in the game now, not just announced:

- There's a system of passive progression, a la EVE where you gain XP whille offlinel. A billion improvements you can pick from that flesh out your playstyle regardless of what character you are using. These advancements are passively active for ALL your characters, present and future ones. Like in EVE, it's like your characters are just simply your ships.

- Leveling up your character is satisfying as there's LOTS of aspects you can control, between talents and stats, way more than most MMORPGs. On top of that you have the discipline runes, exactly like in Shadowbane, that pretty much allow characters to multi-class to a degree and as in Shadowbane there's more than 40 to choose from. You can add healing to your warrior, archery to your druid, this kind of flexibility. You can mix and match as much as you like without having to commit, since disciplines are slotted with a rune that you can swap whenever you like (provided you have such runes).

- Gathering is very physycal, like a fight versus an inanimate object where the materials you gather explode out of the node for you to pick up as you bash it. It's not just for show though, since a huge part of the game is about collecting resources for PvP purposes the nodes that take longer to gather provide endless catalysts for PvP and gank/anti-gank teams. Some gathering nodes can't even be gathered unless two players are doing it together.

- Everything is crafting-centered. Nothing in the game is sold by vendor or created by the game except for very basic items. Everything else has to be crafted. And breaks constantly. As they promised, the whole game is just PvP. There are stupid mobs but they are there just to provide some materials and some xp. It really is like Shadowbane in this sense. The whole point is to play the PvP campaigns, which have a set timer (this one is a week long) and different set of rules.

- Crafting itself is a bit like SWG. There's room for a loot of uniquely crafted pieces of gear as you can choose to experiment by adding stats and increasing item difficulty.

- Seasons are in. Each campaign goes through the four traditional seasons with circumstances changing for everyone in the game world: for example, in the summer there are more resources to harvest, while less in the winter when the nights are longer which means tougher and more precious mobs (resource wise). Not sure what Autumn and Spring do but they do something.

There are also immense problems. It's missing a million things. It runs like ass. It looks bad. Combat is sad. And the net code is a mess. But for the first time after 4 years there is an actual game to play with honestly more features than I was hoping for. And now the long uphill battle towards polishing starts.

Don't touch it for another 12 months at least! It is NOT fun at the moment. But now that the actual campaign is running I went from "Why do I keep wasting my money? I have a problem" to "I'll be damned, this could actually work..."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 06, 2019, 12:52:37 PM
Quote
Don't touch it for another 12 months at least! It is NOT fun at the moment.

Case made. Thread resurrection vetoed.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on January 06, 2019, 04:19:27 PM
I backed it too, and played it for like half an hour 6 months or so ago. Is there any point to logging in periodically to set skill training, or is everything getting wiped before launch?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 06, 2019, 05:36:30 PM
It's unclear. They said they were going to stop wiping with the "soft launch", but I doubt we are there yet. So no, probably no point skilling now if you are not playing through this stage. I wouldn't worry.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Draegan on January 07, 2019, 04:41:23 AM
I ran away from this game once I realize how god awful combat was. Not because it was the unpolished pre-alpha jankiness of the whole thing. It's because the design of combat is fucking terrible from a design perspective. Is it still Third person view, LMB, RMB, keypress 1-8ish, and then an extra button or two for special stuff.

Not only that button mash 1 opens up a combo tree where you have a choice of Button 1 and E (or some other button) where you press 1 or E throughout the tree over and over.

Is it still that abortion of game design? Is it still amateur hour of game design from a game in 2005?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on January 07, 2019, 05:37:29 AM
It's unclear. They said they were going to stop wiping with the "soft launch", but I doubt we are there yet. So no, probably no point skilling now if you are not playing through this stage. I wouldn't worry.
Ok, thanks. I'm still interested in the game, but I don't have the time to play something like this when it's buggy and going to get wiped anyway.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 07, 2019, 07:15:45 AM
I ran away from this game once I realize how god awful combat was. Not because it was the unpolished pre-alpha jankiness of the whole thing. It's because the design of combat is fucking terrible from a design perspective. Is it still Third person view, LMB, RMB, keypress 1-8ish, and then an extra button or two for special stuff.

Not only that button mash 1 opens up a combo tree where you have a choice of Button 1 and E (or some other button) where you press 1 or E throughout the tree over and over.

Is it still that abortion of game design? Is it still amateur hour of game design from a game in 2005?

Honestly, the way I see it the combat is now very similar to every other Western MMORPG (so, bad), and miiiiiles behind every Korean MMORPG.
The point is, I dislike the same things you dislike here but I wouldn't say, net code aside, Crowfall's worse than TESO to mention a pretty succesful action and non-tab-targeting Western MMORPG. It's on par with Western standards, which while not my favourite I wouldn't call an abortion.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Draegan on January 07, 2019, 07:24:48 AM
If I recall TESO, they have fewer key presses required to play the game right? My issue is with key presses, as there are too many of them. I haven't played TESO since release.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 07, 2019, 07:32:14 AM
Supposedly TESO only has 5... for each weapon. To be efficient though you have to juggle between your first weapon and your second weapon so you pretty much end up using ten skills, although admittedly that's still only 5 buttons as the other 5 skills use the same buttons when you switch weapons in combat.

Anyway, I haven't leveled up enough in Crowfall to be able to tell how many skills/button you'll have to juggle with at level 30, but I'd say more for sure as you can also acquire extra skills through discipline runes.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on January 07, 2019, 08:10:53 AM
Anyone playing a massive amount of Rimworld ?  I haven't played it in ages and ages and wondered, now it's released, if it's good and worth a punt ?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Draegan on January 07, 2019, 10:27:27 AM
Supposedly TESO only has 5... for each weapon. To be efficient though you have to juggle between your first weapon and your second weapon so you pretty much end up using ten skills, although admittedly that's still only 5 buttons as the other 5 skills use the same buttons when you switch weapons in combat.

Anyway, I haven't leveled up enough in Crowfall to be able to tell how many skills/button you'll have to juggle with at level 30, but I'd say more for sure as you can also acquire extra skills through discipline runes.

Yeah that seems right with TESO.

I played Crowfall during the first pre-alpha release when everything was unlock. It was a cluster of terrible.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 07, 2019, 10:58:53 AM
Sure same here. But that's my point: even though it is NOT worth picking it up now and try to play as if it were a game that is ready, it has improved leaps and bounds in the last 12 months as a million things have been implemented. That is not gonna make the combat suddenly fun, but the improvements and additions are something I had kind of given up on. This is why I think this game is back on the map.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on January 09, 2019, 02:28:36 AM
Anyone playing a massive amount of Rimworld ?  I haven't played it in ages and ages and wondered, now it's released, if it's good and worth a punt ?


Don't buy this.  I lost a whole day.  It's seriously fucking frustrating addictive.  I suspect it doesn't have much long term staying power per game, but the replay ability looks good.  It's a serious time sink.  I haven't played a game unknowingly till two in the morning since my last game of 'grasp yer own dick' simulator.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 09, 2019, 03:06:38 AM
Same. It made me pull an all-nighter feeling like it was 5 minutes, and that hadn't happened since some old Championship Manager in the late '90s. Funny thing is that I was disappointed by many different things while playing, and yet couldn't even consider going to bed or feeling tired.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on January 09, 2019, 03:52:20 AM
It suffers the same fate that Gnomoria and DF does ;  it's pathetically easy to circumvent any threat from the 'Savages' by building the Patented 'Maze of Death Traps'.

That said, there's a fuckton of other dangers that I didn't appreciate until I played.  My almost all died from Hypothermia, so I rigged them up with hot weather clothes, only for the sunspot heatwave to cook them to death.  That one I didn't see coming.

The lightning fires were also hilarious in the way they RAZED THE WHOLE MAP TO THE GROUND, MY TOWN INCLUDED.

So.

more playing required.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 10, 2019, 09:57:35 AM
Catherine (https://store.steampowered.com/app/893180/Catherine_Classic/) is now available on Steam for 20 dollars. No excuses. Get it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 10, 2019, 12:50:14 PM
Catherine on PC sounds amazing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on January 10, 2019, 02:21:52 PM
How is the gameplay with kb+m? 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on January 10, 2019, 04:15:21 PM
Japanese audio, thank god.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Druzil on January 11, 2019, 06:08:36 AM
The fact that they put classic in the title gives me hope that we'll actually get a western release date on the remake soon.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on January 16, 2019, 04:54:17 AM
Anyone got Nioh on the PC who wants to comment if it's decent or not ?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 16, 2019, 06:40:08 AM
Anyone got Nioh on the PC who wants to comment if it's decent or not ?
I bought it and played it for five minutes. It's a Darksoulslike. Did you tolerate everything they did in Dark Souls? If so then you'll probably like it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on January 16, 2019, 10:37:57 AM
Is it an awful PC port? I played Demon's Souls on PS3 (and maybe one of the Dark Souls) but haven't ever played one on PC.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 16, 2019, 11:09:58 AM
This is my movie of the year so far. Not kidding.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv4CqIxqTMA

(it's the best e-sport documentary ever, the best e-sport movie ever, and one of the best any sport movies ever. It's about the latest DOTA 2 International. It's perfect).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 16, 2019, 11:34:13 AM
i am absolutely not watching that


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on January 16, 2019, 12:10:08 PM
Anyone got Nioh on the PC who wants to comment if it's decent or not ?
Have you played any of the Soulsborne games?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on January 16, 2019, 01:43:28 PM
Yes, I'm a big fan of Souls and Souls 3.  I'd been reading the reviews of the game that suggest it would be a good next try for me, but some of the steam reviews were harsh on the PC Port, which is really what I'm looking for feedback on.  I can't be bothered with a game that's been just shit out onto a PC.  It's always depressing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on January 16, 2019, 02:01:00 PM
Ah okay, I've only tried the PS4 version so I don't have any first-hand experience with the PC port.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on January 16, 2019, 02:09:57 PM
Yeah, ideally I just need to get a PS4 and that way I could also do Bloodbourne, but I'm not sure I could survive the wife dismay.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Gimfain on January 16, 2019, 02:21:28 PM
I played the pc port and had no issues playing on my geforce 760. My guess is that most of the people bitching about the port are people that want to use kbd+m, 144fps and 4k monitors.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on January 16, 2019, 04:18:10 PM
The PC port is perfectly fine. I ran it on a 970 with zero issues at near-max settings a year or so ago.

I used a controller, though, so if you're adamant on KBAM for a game in a genre that works absolutely terribly with KBAM, you might have a rougher time.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 16, 2019, 06:30:06 PM
no souls like games should be played with anything but a dualshock, xbox, or nintendo pro controller


period


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on January 17, 2019, 01:45:22 AM
I bought an MS controller for Dark Souls after trying with a KB setup for... ooooh…. five seconds, so I'm good there too thanks.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on January 17, 2019, 02:28:48 AM
I want to say it's strange that I don't know anything about Nioh, but that would be doing an injustice to all the things I don't know anything about.

I have a PS credit in my wallet, might have to give it a go.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on January 17, 2019, 06:58:56 AM
I played Nioh on PS4 for a few hours, then ran into a boss I couldn't beat.  After trying for a few hours, I put it down and never went back.  Up until then, I was really enjoying the game though!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on January 17, 2019, 07:08:05 AM
I want to say it's strange that I don't know anything about Nioh, but that would be doing an injustice to all the things I don't know anything about.

I have a PS credit in my wallet, might have to give it a go.
If you haven’t played Bloodborne yet I would get that one instead.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 17, 2019, 07:47:51 AM
Yiik "Postmodern RPG"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDbrcsCIbIM


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on January 17, 2019, 07:54:59 AM
So would I, but no PC port of that one yet.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on January 17, 2019, 10:40:09 PM
Have played lots of Bloodborne.  Never to completion, because I never finish these games (Demon Souls being the exception, and then only once).  I always eventually make it to a point where the fun/difficulty threshold is exceeded and my interest wanes.  And then my kid will wipe the PS4 drive and kill my saves.  Still some of my favorite games, nonetheless.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on January 18, 2019, 12:23:35 AM
Have played lots of Bloodborne.
Then you might want to wait to see how Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice is in a couple of months.

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And then my kid will wipe the PS4 drive and kill my saves.
USB drive, dude.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on January 18, 2019, 12:31:48 AM
Have played lots of Bloodborne.
Then you might want to wait to see how Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice is in a couple of months.

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And then my kid will wipe the PS4 drive and kill my saves.
USB drive, dude.


Lol, that helps fuckall when he wipes it without my knowledge.  Believe me, I let him know that I was....most displeased.  Unless you are suggesting I should regularly back saves up on a USB, in which case I wonder what leads you to believe I am in any way a responsible adult in possession of that kind of foresight.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 18, 2019, 01:25:59 AM
Uhm, you don't use the PSN cloud saves?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on January 18, 2019, 01:30:33 AM
I think Cyrrex is going to end up murdering us.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on January 18, 2019, 02:21:56 AM
Starting with Falconeer, it appears.

Unless I am missing something, cloud saves only come with a Plus subscription, no?  I don't have Plus anymore, I found myself not getting any use from it.  And no, it is not worth 60 bucks just for some cloud saves.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 18, 2019, 03:05:54 AM
Ah yes of course it requires a subscription. To me it's worth it for the cloud saves -which I value a lot- and for the online play. Especially in the *Souls and Bloodborne. Messages from other players and invasions are part of the experience.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on January 18, 2019, 03:15:22 AM
Fair enough.  I am not super annoyed by the loss of save files for BB or the different Souls games, because whenever I get that itch I am more than happy to start over anyway.  But that said...do you also need Plus to get all the online benefits from those games?  I realize that sounds like a retarded question on the surface, I just have some lingering memory of that not being required with these games in particular.  I might just be remembering PC versions, as that's where I have Dark Souls 1 and 2.

Losing my FFX and FFXII saves, otoh....that was really goddamn irritating.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 18, 2019, 04:07:52 AM
I think you need a PSN subscription on the PS4 for everything online except for FF XIV because you are already paying them a monthly fee.

I remember losing my FF XIII save when I was tackling the final boss. That scarred me and pushed me into forever paying for online saves.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on January 18, 2019, 06:25:48 AM
I didn't value cloud saves on the PS4 (partially because I just assumed it was doing it automatically) but then I forgot to back the data up before upgrading to a PS4 pro and wiping my old system.  Goodbye, Persona 5 save game among many others.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on January 18, 2019, 08:51:00 AM
Most but not all PS4 online games require PS Plus. Some exceptions include Warframe and Fortnite. On the PS3 (or Vita), PS Plus is not required for online play, So if you first played, say, Dark Souls on the PS3 you wouldn’t have needed PS Plus to get the online stuff.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on January 18, 2019, 11:31:39 AM
I think I needed it for roster updates on Madden, and the current week matchups, etc. I did get a couple games using the Plus discount, but the free games offered since I got the PS4 in September have been garbage (I guess GoW3 was good, just not for me). I just cancelled Plus, very little value, in my opinion.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on January 18, 2019, 12:00:14 PM
I've gotten a number of free games with Plus, though I haven't necessarily played most of them, and I don't tend to play online, and yet I'm still paying for Plus.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on January 18, 2019, 12:34:42 PM
I think I needed it for roster updates on Madden, and the current week matchups, etc. I did get a couple games using the Plus discount, but the free games offered since I got the PS4 in September have been garbage (I guess GoW3 was good, just not for me). I just cancelled Plus, very little value, in my opinion.
There was also Yakuza Kiwami (Yakuza 1 remastered) and Destiny 2. This month has Steep, which isn't bad.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Druzil on January 18, 2019, 12:46:01 PM
I think I needed it for roster updates on Madden, and the current week matchups, etc. I did get a couple games using the Plus discount, but the free games offered since I got the PS4 in September have been garbage (I guess GoW3 was good, just not for me). I just cancelled Plus, very little value, in my opinion.
There was also Yakuza Kiwami (Yakuza 1 remastered) and Destiny 2. This month has Steep, which isn't bad.


More decent games from just last year -  Soma, Onrush, Bloodborne, Trials Fusion, Ratchet and Clank, Dues Ex, Mafia 3, Dead by Daylight.  2017 also had a list of pretty good games.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on January 18, 2019, 12:57:03 PM
Trippy - It looked to me like it was just some free DLC for Destiny 2. If it was the full game, I'm really stupid or it was poorly communicated. Could be either!

Druzil, I would've gotten Bloodborne from that list, not a lot there for me. Maybe Mafia 3, though I have that on Steam already. Certainly not worth a subscription, vs buying them on sale or just saving my money for games I'm actually interested in.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 18, 2019, 01:02:25 PM
Until Dawn and Metal Gear 5? Probably 2017, still good deals.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on January 18, 2019, 03:54:56 PM
I just bought a Switch.  First Nintendo console since the SNES.  Zelda arrives tomorrow in time for most of the long weekend.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on January 18, 2019, 07:43:20 PM
Don't forget your Nintendo Online subscription for cloud saves :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 18, 2019, 08:47:44 PM
Don't forget your Nintendo Online subscription for cloud saves :awesome_for_real:


lol


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 24, 2019, 10:45:17 AM
Losing game saves is like becoming a person-shaped husk. What is the point of anything?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on January 24, 2019, 11:19:40 AM
To start anew, tabula rasa, create the life you want to live.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 24, 2019, 02:00:25 PM
I did that already, don't erase it.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Teleku on January 24, 2019, 06:35:40 PM
Ok, you guys keep going off on the switch.  What are the great games to play for it currently, other than Zelda?  May cave and get one.

Mind you, I have zero interest in using it for mobile gaming and only intend to use it like a traditional console on the couch.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on January 24, 2019, 08:58:16 PM
For Switch/Nintendo exclusives this list is decent (from #1 - 8):

WARNING: Shitty ad blocker blocker
https://www.gamesradar.com/best-switch-exclusives/

1. Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
2. Super Mario Odyssey
3. Super Smash Bros Ultimate
4. Splatoon 2
5. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
6. Xenoblade Chronicles 2
7. Octopath Traveler
8. Mario + Rabbids: Kingdom Battle
9. Arms
10. Fast RMX

Other Switch exclusives / Wii U ports that may be interesting to you:

Bayonetta 2 - Wii U port, original is also available if you don't already have it for another platform

Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze - Wii U port, get this instead of New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe if you want a Nintendo-brand 2D platformer

Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! or Let's Go, Eevee! - remakes of Pokémon Yellow

Hyrule Warriors: Definitive Edition - Wii U port, if you really need your Musou-game fix

Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate - missing the graphics and quality-of-life improvements in MH:World but has a crap-ton more content

Starlink: Battle for Atlas - game is not Nintendo-exclusive but the Star Fox gang and playable Fox McCloud pilot is exclusive to the Switch-version. Kind of a meh Ubisoft "open-world" (star system) game but hey it's Fox McCloud (but it's not a real Star Fox game). Skip the physical toys and get one of the digital versions if you really want to play it.

Edit: added list, also not all Switch exclusives




Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 25, 2019, 06:35:02 AM
Oh, that adblocker popup.

I saw a few things in the GamesRadar Switch list before I mailed a turd to their home office, but not sure I saw Smash Ultimate. It's great.

Son has been a fan of Towerfall since it came to PS4, but in his group of 5 there was always someone left to watch instead of play. The Switch version allows 6 players, so he has moved to that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on January 25, 2019, 08:39:04 AM
Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is probably the best jRPG that's come out in a long time.

Family logged a lot of hours in Stardew Valley.

Personally, I think my top played are Xenoblade, Breath of the Wild, Smash Ultimate, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Mario Odyssey (this is great), and Mario v Rabbids (very good X-COM lite). I probably didn't play as much Switch in 2018 and didn't pick up some titles I wanted (Octopath) due to the PS4 having such a good year for exclusives.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on January 25, 2019, 11:38:10 AM
Oh, that adblocker popup.

I saw a few things in the GamesRadar Switch list before I mailed a turd to their home office, but not sure I saw Smash Ultimate. It's great.
Oops I forgot about their shitty ad blocker blocker. I run Pi-hole (https://pi-hole.net/) at home now so I don't see those things as often now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 05, 2019, 09:59:21 AM
Was I the only one who completely missed this game until today? It's a 2d hack 'n slash with Diablo loot and Japanese crazyness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaaA3uVpIic



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 05, 2019, 10:03:36 AM
Was I the only one who completely missed this game until today? It's a 2d hack 'n slash with Diablo loot and Japanese crazyness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaaA3uVpIic


i'm about that


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on February 15, 2019, 06:33:19 AM
Did anyone play the Anthem demo? I never got a chance and was wondering how it looked. I think I like the look of the game but not sure it will be good.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Father mike on February 15, 2019, 09:38:54 AM
It's out for folks who subscribe to EA's "games as a service" at the $15/month level.  Reviews should be rolling out soon.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on February 15, 2019, 10:21:09 AM
Assuming you can even connect.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 15, 2019, 11:06:43 AM
I have been playing for the past 30 minutes. What it seems to be: Mass Effect Andromeda 2.
What it actually is: Iron Man Online, actually War Machine Online.
What I don't like: the Marvel comedy-esque mood of the acting. Hate it.
What I like so far:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: patience on February 15, 2019, 11:39:10 AM
For Switch/Nintendo exclusives this list is decent (from #1 - 8):

WARNING: Shitty ad blocker blocker
https://www.gamesradar.com/best-switch-exclusives/

1. Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
2. Super Mario Odyssey
3. Super Smash Bros Ultimate
4. Splatoon 2
5. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
6. Xenoblade Chronicles 2
7. Octopath Traveler
8. Mario + Rabbids: Kingdom Battle
9. Arms
10. Fast RMX

Other Switch exclusives / Wii U ports that may be interesting to you:

Bayonetta 2 - Wii U port, original is also available if you don't already have it for another platform

Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze - Wii U port, get this instead of New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe if you want a Nintendo-brand 2D platformer

Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! or Let's Go, Eevee! - remakes of Pokémon Yellow

Hyrule Warriors: Definitive Edition - Wii U port, if you really need your Musou-game fix

Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate - missing the graphics and quality-of-life improvements in MH:World but has a crap-ton more content

Starlink: Battle for Atlas - game is not Nintendo-exclusive but the Star Fox gang and playable Fox McCloud pilot is exclusive to the Switch-version. Kind of a meh Ubisoft "open-world" (star system) game but hey it's Fox McCloud (but it's not a real Star Fox game). Skip the physical toys and get one of the digital versions if you really want to play it.

Edit: added list, also not all Switch exclusives




We can now add Tetris 99 to that list.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 15, 2019, 06:16:35 PM
only if you subscribe to their absolutely not worth it online service


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on February 21, 2019, 02:55:46 PM
Reggie is retiring:

https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1098666321473024000

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20190221005804/en/Nintendo-America%E2%80%99s-Reggie-Fils-Aime-Retire-Doug-Bowser


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 21, 2019, 03:33:34 PM
What, was Tyler Waluigi not available?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on February 22, 2019, 07:50:30 AM
Definitely glad I held off on Anthem. Reviews seem to be coming in between 50-75% even from the paid reviewers. I'm thinking EA sweeps this IP under the rug in less than a year, especially when Division 2 utterly crushes it in a month.

What modern games fall into this genre? I feel like I'm missing a few of these loot-shooters.

(As a service)
Anthem
Destiny 1&2
Division 1&2
Warframe

(Platform)
Borderlands


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on February 22, 2019, 11:24:31 AM
What modern games fall into this genre? I feel like I'm missing a few of these loot-shooters.

(As a service)
Anthem
Destiny 1&2
Division 1&2
Warframe

(Platform)
Borderlands
For shame! How could you leave out schild's second favorite game of all-time and the granddaddy of the genre: Hellgate: London :awesome_for_real:
(Okay, technically it wasn't a pure shooter but I think it still counts...)

Warframe's drop/progression systems are so weird that while it is a looter shooter I wouldn't include in the Diablo-like looter shooter category that I think most people think of when they hear that term.

Fortnite PvE (Save the World) mode is a looter shooter. Some might argue the PvP Battle Royale mode is as well though I'm not so sure since you don't keep the loot after each match. Same applies to Apex Legends.

Alienation is a looter shooter with Diablo-style loot but it's a twin-stick top-down shooter so I'm not sure it falls into the same category as the 1st/3rd-person games.

Definitely glad I held off on Anthem. Reviews seem to be coming in between 50-75% even from the paid reviewers. I'm thinking EA sweeps this IP under the rug in less than a year, especially when Division 2 utterly crushes it in a month.
I see more of an overlap between Destiny 2 PvE players and Anthem players than between The Division 2 and Anthem but I guess we'll see soon.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 22, 2019, 12:31:12 PM
As a non-multiplayer gamer on the sidelines, I watch some of the convention footage when it's that time of year. I remember the Anthem preview being cringily contrived and the gameplay looked like bland by-the-numbers lootshoot.

On the other hand, I happened to be bored one night and watched some streamers playing Apex and it looked pretty amazing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on February 22, 2019, 03:07:02 PM
Anthem vs. Apex Legends is proof positive that the suits at EA have no clue whatsoever how their business works and probably just coast on FIFA money


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on February 22, 2019, 03:29:11 PM
Anthem vs. Apex Legends is proof positive that the suits at EA have no clue whatsoever how their business works and probably just coast on FIFA money

Hilariously, Apex Legends doesn't support older processors and gives you a POPCNT error if you try to run it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on February 22, 2019, 03:48:11 PM
Older processors = processors that don’t support SSEv4 so basically CPUs ten years or older because Intel supports SSEv4 and the POPCNT instruction since Nehalem (2008) and AMD since the K10 architecture (2007 - 2008)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on February 22, 2019, 08:14:10 PM
Anthem vs. Apex Legends is proof positive that the suits at EA have no clue whatsoever how their business works and probably just coast on FIFA money

FIFA and Madden money - the two are stupid crazy profitable and propped up the lich of dead studios walking that is EA.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 23, 2019, 09:29:48 AM
Now I want to use the phrase 'pop you in the cunt'


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 27, 2019, 04:38:42 AM
https://investors.funcom.com/funcom-n-v-enters-into-exclusive-partnership-with-legendary-studios-for-games-in-the-dune-universe/


Funcom has entered into an exclusive partnership with Legendary Studios to develop games based on the works of Frank Herbert’s DUNE, one of the world’s best known science fiction universes with multiple adaptations into movies, games and other media.

This is a six year partnership to release at least three titles on the PC/Console platforms, with one of the games planned to be in the “Open World Multiplayer” genre that will enter into pre-production in Funcom’s Oslo studio during 2019.

Entering into this partnership is in line with the company’s strategy of working with strong Intellectual Properties, allowing for two different vast and well known universes – CONAN and DUNE – to be available for the Company’s games.

This information is subject to the disclosure requirements acc. to §5-12 vphl (Norwegian Securities Trading Act)

Badhoevedorp, The Netherlands, 26 February 2019

Funcom N.V.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on February 27, 2019, 05:14:07 AM
https://investors.funcom.com/funcom-n-v-enters-into-exclusive-partnership-with-legendary-studios-for-games-in-the-dune-universe/


Funcom has entered into an exclusive partnership with Legendary Studios to develop games based on the works of Frank Herbert’s DUNE, one of the world’s best known science fiction universes with multiple adaptations into movies, games and other media.

This is a six year partnership to release at least three titles on the PC/Console platforms, with one of the games planned to be in the “Open World Multiplayer” genre that will enter into pre-production in Funcom’s Oslo studio during 2019.

Entering into this partnership is in line with the company’s strategy of working with strong Intellectual Properties, allowing for two different vast and well known universes – CONAN and DUNE – to be available for the Company’s games.

This information is subject to the disclosure requirements acc. to §5-12 vphl (Norwegian Securities Trading Act)

Badhoevedorp, The Netherlands, 26 February 2019

Funcom N.V.

Now it just has to be Anarchy Online 2 with Dune lore and I'll be actually interested...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 27, 2019, 07:07:26 AM
Same.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 27, 2019, 07:46:08 AM
oh boy that is going to be bad


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on February 27, 2019, 10:37:59 AM
I'm trying to even picture what a Dune game would look like.  There's the old RTS (which I never played) that is supposedly good.  Or was at the time.

A Dune MMO could be... interesting?  Depends on when it's set, I suppose.  Also depends on the fee structure.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on February 27, 2019, 10:56:02 AM
Dune II (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dune_II) was the one that developed the RTS formula of resource gathering, base building and unit construction, etc., that was copied by most of the subsequent major RTS games (C&C, *Craft, etc.). Also, nerf Sonic Tanks (longest range in the game).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 27, 2019, 10:59:27 AM
I'm trying to even picture what a Dune game would look like.

As previously mentioned: Anarchy Online reskin.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Father mike on February 27, 2019, 12:46:22 PM
[20:43:17] You have been killed by xXx_SpiceLord420_xXx's Weirding Strike


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on February 27, 2019, 04:28:33 PM
I sort of get the AO reskin.  I think they're about 10+ years too late to the party on that one, but more power to them.

I meant the other two games.

An RTS makes sense.

And then what?  An RPG?  Action/Adventure?  Another RTS?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Teleku on February 27, 2019, 07:00:10 PM
oh boy that is going to be bad
Dude, come on. Dune Exiles.  Just think of it!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 27, 2019, 07:25:53 PM
haaha no

isn't that just minecraft w/ a mod that adds assholes


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 28, 2019, 07:42:49 AM
Warsaw, it's Darkest Dungeon in World War 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic-HtUkO9_E


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 28, 2019, 08:53:19 AM
Excited for the game, but that animation is so bad.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Teleku on March 01, 2019, 01:20:51 AM
I dig the style.  And man, that is a dark god damned topic to use for a game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on March 01, 2019, 01:23:49 AM
Five seconds into the Division 2 open beta and I already like it way more than Anthem. Not a surprise, really. Basically, I am just telling you all that The Division 2 open beta is underway. Uplay required.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on March 01, 2019, 01:40:29 PM
I dig the style.  And man, that is a dark god damned topic to use for a game.

Jeeze. I'm bummed out for the day just from watching the trailer.

So NAZI's are bad again? Cool.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hoax on March 01, 2019, 02:33:37 PM
Excited for the game, but that animation is so bad.

I'm less excited because its /not/ made by the DD guys. I mean DD is great so blatant rip off might be great but that's seemingly very on the nose?

Five seconds into the Division 2 open beta and I already like it way more than Anthem. Not a surprise, really. Basically, I am just telling you all that The Division 2 open beta is underway. Uplay required.

Did Division 2 do anything to make PvP a thing and/or make it not feel like you are just unloading entire clipS into human beings bc HP's and stuff? I could never get past that in the first one.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on March 01, 2019, 02:38:41 PM
Did Division 2 do anything to make PvP a thing and/or make it not feel like you are just unloading entire clipS into human beings bc HP's and stuff? I could never get past that in the first one.
TTK is down, including in PvP apparently (haven't tried it myself), and insta-heals have basically been removed. They've also made changes to make it more n00b-friendly like gear normalization which of course all the hardcore Dark Zone players from the original hate.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sir T on March 05, 2019, 01:03:33 AM
Anthem seems to be forcing consoles to initiate a bad shutdown, causing it to do a full repair after restarting. And in some cases it has been reported to have caused the counsole to stop working entirely. And the thing is Bioware seems to have been aware of the issue for days with no response. And this is After a patch that was supposed to have sorted out the existing crash problem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi2yCL9n8QM

https://www.reddit.com/r/AnthemTheGame/comments/aw6tkr/full_system_console_crashes_while_playing_anthem/
https://www.reddit.com/r/AnthemTheGame/comments/awtono/this_is_the_only_game_that_causes_a_complete_ps4/
https://www.reddit.com/r/AnthemTheGame/comments/ax246k/psa_to_playstation_anthem_players/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on March 05, 2019, 01:34:38 AM
I read that last night, it's a deliciously funny train wreck.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on March 05, 2019, 07:30:04 AM
Funcom is doing a Conan RTS, actually Funcom publishes it and the Command and Conquer people are developing it. And the name is -of course- Conan Unconquered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99KGcUMhdrE&feature=em-uploademail


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on March 05, 2019, 08:58:29 AM
Funcom is doing a Conan RTS, actually Funcom publishes it and the Command and Conquer people are developing it. And the name is -of course- Conan Unconquered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99KGcUMhdrE&feature=em-uploademail

Workin that IP, Funcom.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 05, 2019, 12:18:39 PM
Waiting for the "8-bit" side-scroll platformer and battle royale with cheese.

Newbs.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on March 05, 2019, 12:32:32 PM
I'd fucking be there for Conan Battle Royale.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Father mike on March 06, 2019, 06:19:08 AM
Waiting for the "8-bit" side-scroll platformer and battle royale with cheese.

Newbs.

It was called Rygar, and it was awesome.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on March 07, 2019, 08:32:56 AM
Moved the most recent Seikro discussion to its original topic: http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=25867.0


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on March 08, 2019, 12:01:23 PM
Might as well post there here also:

Grim Dawn: Forgotten Gods expansion trailer. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NlahpvZ2hY)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on March 12, 2019, 12:57:56 PM
Borderlands 3 announcement coming March 28: https://twitter.com/GearboxOfficial/status/1105543983516639232


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Father mike on March 13, 2019, 08:01:41 AM
Phoenix Point (Xcom spirutal successor being developed by Julian Gallop) is now exclusive to the Epic gamestore.

The KickStarter backers have thrown such a fit that the studio is offering a free DLC season pass to backers.

Look for fireworks in a Reddit AMA this afternoon


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 13, 2019, 08:14:38 AM
Yeah free DLC ain't gonna do it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on March 13, 2019, 08:45:51 AM
Phoenix Point (Xcom spirutal successor being developed by Julian Gallop) is now exclusive to the Epic gamestore.

The KickStarter backers have thrown such a fit that the studio is offering a free DLC season pass to backers.

Look for fireworks in a Reddit AMA this afternoon

Was it always supposed to be on Steam and they backtracked from that, or is it people just hating on the Epic Launcher?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on March 13, 2019, 09:51:57 AM
Of course. But Epic store wasn't really a thing when they started the project. Still dumb. If you said you were going to give backers item X, you give them item X. They paid you for it.

These Epic store exclusives are starting to get annoying.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on March 13, 2019, 10:02:10 AM
All these different launchers are just going to get people pirating software again.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on March 13, 2019, 10:14:09 AM
All these different launchers are just going to get people pirating software again.

People never stopped pirating software. Giving a fuck about what launcher opens up when you click on the shortcut for the game would be about the dumbest reason for someone who isn't already pirating to start.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 13, 2019, 10:14:50 AM
All these different launchers are just going to get people pirating software again.
bingo

All these different launchers are just going to get people pirating software again.

People never stopped pirating software. Giving a fuck about what launcher opens up when you click on the shortcut for the game would be about the dumbest reason for someone who isn't already pirating to start.

no


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on March 13, 2019, 10:56:03 AM
All these different launchers are just going to get people pirating software again.

People never stopped pirating software. Giving a fuck about what launcher opens up when you click on the shortcut for the game would be about the dumbest reason for someone who isn't already pirating to start.
Steam allowing a unified game collection with frequent deep discounts drastically reduced piracy. Why torrent a game when you can just buy it for $5 a year after it comes out? I know many former pirates, and many folks who still torrent movies/shows/music but just buy games on Steam. It's not about "what launcher opens up" it's about having a collection hosted on a service that is familiar and trusted. I also don't want 10 launchers running all the time, nor do I want to wait for a specific client to launch just to launch whatever game.

As an aside, do people really launch their games from shortcuts? I launch all my Steam games from Steam, and only have shortcuts to my non-Steam games (which all have their own special launchers like Minecraft). I may be weird in this regard, I'm genuinely curious.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on March 13, 2019, 11:18:15 AM
I tend to launch most games from Steam because that's where most of my games are. The games that aren't on Steam, I'll use a shortcut.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on March 13, 2019, 03:45:36 PM
All these different launchers are just going to get people pirating software again.

People never stopped pirating software. Giving a fuck about what launcher opens up when you click on the shortcut for the game would be about the dumbest reason for someone who isn't already pirating to start.
Steam allowing a unified game collection with frequent deep discounts drastically reduced piracy. Why torrent a game when you can just buy it for $5 a year after it comes out? I know many former pirates, and many folks who still torrent movies/shows/music but just buy games on Steam. It's not about "what launcher opens up" it's about having a collection hosted on a service that is familiar and trusted. I also don't want 10 launchers running all the time, nor do I want to wait for a specific client to launch just to launch whatever game.

As an aside, do people really launch their games from shortcuts? I launch all my Steam games from Steam, and only have shortcuts to my non-Steam games (which all have their own special launchers like Minecraft). I may be weird in this regard, I'm genuinely curious.

If it's something I play a lot of I use the shortcuts. Slay the Spire for instance I have a desktop shortcut for. Going from the Steam's store page to my library and then scrolling through to the game I want to play would take a lot longer than double clicking the icon on my desktop. It's part of the reason I'm baffled when people complain about other launchers. Also I think just about everything about Steam has gotten worse over time, from their store to their UI, to their sales no longer being as good. I have no idea why so many people are attached to it and wish it to never have any sort of competition that might inspire them to improve their service.

And for most people I know who pirated games, they'd rather play the game now than wait a year for a sale. If piracy has dropped off a bit, I suspect that's more due to the "games as a service" trend that requires people to have an active account to log in with and also the F2P nature of some of the more popular game. People can't/aren't going to pirate Fortnite, Overwatch, or Apex Legends. Is it possible to pirate The Division 2 (asking for a friend)? Could I pirate Anthem or Fallout 76 if I want to see if they're as bad as I've heard? Speaking of Fortnight, Overwatch, and Apex Legends, they're some of the most popular games out there. Know what else they all have in common? They all launch from different services and aren't on Steam. The people complaining about that sort of thing are old dinosaurs like us here. The younger generation clearly doesn't give a fuck.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on March 13, 2019, 03:53:44 PM
Is it possible to pirate The Division 2 (asking for a friend)?
Ubisoft loads up their PC games these days with as much copy protection (i.e. Denuvo and VMProtect) as a modern PC can handle to delay the inevitable crack as long as possible so your "friend" may have to wait a month or so.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on March 13, 2019, 03:56:46 PM
Is it possible to pirate The Division 2 (asking for a friend)?
Ubisoft loads up their PC games these days with as much copy protection (i.e. Denuvo and VMProtect) as a modern PC can handle to delay the inevitable crack as long as possible so your "friend" may have to wait a month or so.


But I assume even then since Division 2 is an online only game that pirating a copy isn't really viable. Like at best you could maybe buy a discounted key from a somewhat less reputable site.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on March 13, 2019, 03:57:57 PM
Uplay accounts are free and The Division 2 doesn't require a paid subscription to play.

Edit: To put it another way, if Ubisoft didn't think it would somehow be possible to play a cracked version of the game online they wouldn't have bothered to put all the DRM in in the first place. So they must believe it's at least theoretically possible to do so. And then you get in the "anti-cheat/crack" arms race like other online games are in right now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on March 13, 2019, 04:04:06 PM
Yes, but I assume you still need to be able to link a valid key to your Uplay account and that it checks when you log on. Even if you were able to get a hacked key, it might be fine if you just wanted to test the game out a bit, but might not be something you'd want to invest a lot of time in just in case you get banned.

Edit: Or to put it another way, even though Diablo III doesn't require a sub can you pirate it and play on the PC?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on March 13, 2019, 06:47:54 PM
If it's something I play a lot of I use the shortcuts. Slay the Spire for instance I have a desktop shortcut for. Going from the Steam's store page to my library and then scrolling through to the game I want to play would take a lot longer than double clicking the icon on my desktop. It's part of the reason I'm baffled when people complain about other launchers. Also I think just about everything about Steam has gotten worse over time, from their store to their UI, to their sales no longer being as good. I have no idea why so many people are attached to it and wish it to never have any sort of competition that might inspire them to improve their service.

And for most people I know who pirated games, they'd rather play the game now than wait a year for a sale. If piracy has dropped off a bit, I suspect that's more due to the "games as a service" trend that requires people to have an active account to log in with and also the F2P nature of some of the more popular game. People can't/aren't going to pirate Fortnite, Overwatch, or Apex Legends. Is it possible to pirate The Division 2 (asking for a friend)? Could I pirate Anthem or Fallout 76 if I want to see if they're as bad as I've heard? Speaking of Fortnight, Overwatch, and Apex Legends, they're some of the most popular games out there. Know what else they all have in common? They all launch from different services and aren't on Steam. The people complaining about that sort of thing are old dinosaurs like us here. The younger generation clearly doesn't give a fuck.
I really only play a handful of games at a time, so I can typically right click the Steam icon in my system tray and launch them from there; I don't need to minimize all my windows to get to my desktop. Their sales have certainly gotten worse, I'll give you that; I'm not sure what has changed about the UI at all.

Fortnite and Apex Legends are bad examples, since they're free games; obviously, no one would pirate them. I agree that "live service" games and their popularity may have reduced piracy as well, but I certainly know several people who play a lot of single player games and buy them on Steam instead of pirating them. I don't really know if any of those other "live service" games can be pirated; keygens were certainly a thing many years ago.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on March 13, 2019, 08:13:29 PM
Edit: Or to put it another way, even though Diablo III doesn't require a sub can you pirate it and play on the PC?
Yes you can get a keygen for it and attach the key to your Battle.Net account and play it online.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Father mike on March 14, 2019, 06:36:25 AM
Attaching a hacked key to your Bnet account seems like a really good way to get nuked from orbit.  I'm assuming you create a throwaway Bnet account?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on March 14, 2019, 07:28:31 AM
Of course.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 14, 2019, 07:30:21 AM
I really only play a handful of games at a time, so I can typically right click the Steam icon in my system tray and launch them from there; I don't need to minimize all my windows to get to my desktop. Their sales have certainly gotten worse, I'll give you that; I'm not sure what has changed about the UI at all.
[/quote]This. I didn't know anyone /didn't/ use the Steam taskbar icon to launch stuff. It's one of my favorite things. I hate a cluttered desktop, though I always end up with one. Steam is one of a handful of programs that lets me reduce that greatly.

UPlay has worked pretty seamlessly with Steam, too. I launch stuff like Rocksmith and Far Cry from the aforementioned taskbar icon.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 18, 2019, 04:00:45 PM
Pirating is such a pain in the ass. I pay $10 to stream a movie because I don't want to get off my ass and look for the disc.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on March 19, 2019, 07:58:07 PM
Nothing is new, everything is derivative. So, here's Borderlands and Apex Legends.

(https://i.redd.it/jox2ezt5l5n21.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on March 20, 2019, 04:47:32 PM
Not sure if this is new news, but The Outer Worlds (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyvhGGIGuQc) is gonna be on Epic and Microsoft store only, no Steam


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 20, 2019, 06:22:51 PM
you mean it's gonna be on a pirate ship with day 0 delivery


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ceryse on March 20, 2019, 06:24:54 PM
All these 12-month Epic Store exclusives basically mean one thing to me; I'll just pirate the games if they hold interest to me. Between the Epic store being utterly inferior to Steam, I thoroughly dislike non-first party exclusive crap. Add to that the 40% stake tencent has in it? Meh.

The way Epic has been going at it so aggressively has also led to a bad taste; even games crowdfunded on the basis of being Steam releases have signed up now to be Epic Store exclusives, as they could refund every crowdfunder and still come out ahead, financially.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 20, 2019, 06:26:54 PM
fuck tencent and every single strand of dna there


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on March 20, 2019, 06:35:19 PM
I like Steam and I dislike all the other platforms, so this makes me unhappy. With that said, it's time for Steam to drop the 30% share of the profit act. Now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 20, 2019, 06:39:10 PM
Apple margins are horseshit and they're horseshit on Steam also.

But this behavior from Epic is the actual fucking worst. Also, again, fuck China.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on March 21, 2019, 06:58:03 AM
Chocobo's Dungeon for the Wii was just remastered/updated for the Switch. $40. I never got to finish the first, but will be snagging this one to take another stroll through it.

The weirdest part about it was a few weeks ago, I though about how well that game would work on the Switch... and here we are.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 21, 2019, 07:06:40 AM
Chocobo's Dungeon? As in the Super Lite Shiren the Wanderer reskin?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on March 21, 2019, 07:53:26 AM
Yep, the same. It's the same game with updated textures, the ability to bring along a 'buddy' into the dungeon and some form of couch co-op that has been tacked on. There are no reviews yet, and I'm a few weeks off from being able to play it. Here's the trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQb8Gf87Gsc

EDIT: I'm 99% positive you recommended that game to me when I was first visiting F13. It's such a good game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 21, 2019, 09:57:56 AM
absolutely getting it, rad

and yeah, I probably did


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on March 21, 2019, 11:43:30 AM
I was perusing Steam, looking for anything interesting and different when I came to a realisation.  Developers who write cameltoe into their games are seriously sick and won't get a penny of $$ from me.   :uhrr:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on March 21, 2019, 11:52:59 AM
What games? Dead or Alive 6 for sure, and then what?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on March 21, 2019, 04:12:37 PM
I'm not buying a single thing on the Epic Store given that their competition model isn't to make a better storefront with better curation as it is just to find the most anticipated titles and just throw gigantic piles of money to secure exclusivity (which isn't "competition" in the way that Epic defenders say it).

Also being owned 40% by Tencent. Be prepared for braindead wokefolk trying to paint not trusting gigantic Chinese companies as being racist- it's coming.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on March 21, 2019, 07:21:42 PM
Also being owned 40% by Tencent. Be prepared for braindead wokefolk trying to paint not trusting gigantic Chinese companies as being racist- it's coming.
schild is way ahead of you :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on March 21, 2019, 11:44:18 PM
Hmmmm, here's something I didn't expect to see today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYvWfDxhm_s

edit: doesn't take place in Santa Monica, so might not have much connection to the first one, but still...

edit the second: it occurs to me that I didn't mention what this is.  VtM: Bloodlines 2.  Thread in progress. (http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=26029.0)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on March 22, 2019, 02:03:21 PM
What games? Dead or Alive 6 for sure, and then what?

Why are you so interested in cameltoe?  Anyway, I don't remember the name but it was in my queue and it was Asian so not only did give women cameltoe and ginormous boobies but they made them look like small children.  I am ashamed for the world.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on March 22, 2019, 02:10:47 PM
I am really not interested in cameltoes. I am interested in your research as you probably know I support your reasons.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 25, 2019, 07:14:54 AM
Since I live under a rock, I came in here to ask why people hate the Epic store but I think I found my answer in the previous posts.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on March 28, 2019, 11:55:50 AM
This sounds like bullshit to me and it could also easily lead to a terrible game, as Martin's storytelling is nothing like Miyazaki's, but still here's the gossip:

https://www.gamesradar.com/dark-souls-game-of-thrones-anybody-george-rr-martin-and-fromsoftware-have-apparently-teamed-up-to-work-on-a-new-game/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Reg on March 28, 2019, 12:27:19 PM
Is there anything at all that Martin won't do to avoid finishing his overly long series? At this point I'm just plain losing interest in anything he does. Same goes for freaking Patrick Rothfuss.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on March 28, 2019, 01:27:22 PM
Rothfuss said awhile back the “trilogy” is actually just a prequel to the actual story. I guess now all he has to do is write it.

I wonder if these guys are like “fuckit, I’ll just die and let Sanderson finish it”.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on March 29, 2019, 12:02:22 AM
For folks who have an Amazon Prime subscription and a Switch, you can get up to 12 months of the Switch's online service free through Twitch Prime. (https://twitch.amazon.com/prime/loot/nintendo)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bunk on March 29, 2019, 12:44:56 PM
So, no discussion on the Borderlands 3 announcement yet? Or the fact that they are remastering all the previous ones and making the updates free on PC for those who owned them?

Of interesting note - they are including the Tales from the Borderlands game as canon in the series, and including characters from it in 3.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 29, 2019, 01:53:26 PM
I agree with everything Borderlands 3. Watched the trailer, will buy it when it arrives but will ignore it for now.

However, I don't think anything can ever surpass Borderlands 2 for me. It hit at the right time and velocity for my life, and I did joy-puke my face off.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on March 29, 2019, 02:16:26 PM
I liked Borderlands 1&2 once I could exploit mechanics to get me better guns than I normally could. There was that one roof exploit in BL1 and the gold key duping in BL2. Otherwise, shit tends to get a little bullet spongy for my tastes. I don't trust Gearbox or Randy Pitchford either, but I'll keep an eye out for this. I don't play any looter-shooters (uggh) so this could be different enough.

Epic store stuff is starting to annoy me. I was going to get The Division 2 post launch, but the exclusivity meant I couldn't use some Amazon gift cards for a digital key. This may keep on happening.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on March 29, 2019, 02:31:41 PM

Epic store stuff is starting to annoy me. I was going to get The Division 2 post launch, but the exclusivity meant I couldn't use some Amazon gift cards for a digital key. This may keep on happening.



Correction - this shit with exclusive digital store locations WILL keep happening and it's going to get worse. Because Steam showed everyone a path to printing goddamn money for nothing and now every publisher wants a piece because they can't squeeze enough growth out of fucking lootboxes, microtrans and goddamn subscription services/season passes.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on March 29, 2019, 02:32:54 PM
Yeah but will Pitchford be able to make a decent game when he can’t screw over Sega and funnel Aliens Colonial Marines development budget into it?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on March 30, 2019, 12:23:53 PM
If enough people hold fast against exclusives, Epic will eventually stop being able to pay what the publishers will have to demand in order to have a year of relatively low sales.

I dunno. There's stuff I want to play, but it's just going to drive me to the console, not to the Epic Store.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Father mike on March 30, 2019, 01:28:42 PM
Everyone is always making jokes / bitching about their Steam backlog.  Year-long Epic exclusives are my perfect excuse to do something ablout it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on March 30, 2019, 07:29:59 PM
Right? I already wait a year+ for shit to go on sale, I'll have no problem waiting for them to come to a real storefront.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on March 31, 2019, 09:00:54 AM
Right? I already wait a year+ for shit to go on sale, I'll have no problem waiting for them to come to a real storefront.

Huge advantage is it also gives them a chance to fix shitty gameplay decisions.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on April 02, 2019, 10:35:05 AM
Kotaku did a nice expose on Anthem, in which they basically confirm everything the community thought happened over the last six years. (https://kotaku.com/how-biowares-anthem-went-wrong-1833731964)

Bioware responded with a knee-jerk post on the article, article unread. (http://blog.bioware.com/2019/04/02/anthem-game-development/)

So, yeah, I'm regretting putting money into this a bit. I do enjoy the gameplay, and I think in the right hands it could be phenomenal. But right now? Nah, it's off to DC for the Division 1.5.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on April 02, 2019, 11:44:17 AM
Kotaku did a nice expose on Anthem
More specifically it was written by Jason Schreier who is one of the very few actual journalists* writing about gaming these days.

* I.e. somebody who does his own research, interviews and investigation rather than just regurgitating gaming company PR


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on April 02, 2019, 11:51:24 AM
It is a good read, and heads should roll as a result. Whether Anthem improves as a result is yet to be seen.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on April 02, 2019, 01:47:52 PM
I'm sure heads will roll - it's just going to be the wrong heads when they decide to close down Bioware and fold it into yet another in-house EA development studio, a la Westwood and just about everyone they've ever bought other than DICE.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on April 02, 2019, 01:49:54 PM
But guys, they are working at Dragon Age 4! That can't go wrong.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on April 02, 2019, 01:52:42 PM
It's amazing to me how EA stubbornly refuses to back off from forcing everybody to use the Frostbite engine despite having shot themselves in the feet by it at least 4 times now in the past, like, 7 years.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on April 02, 2019, 02:00:04 PM
In house framework/middleware development only works if you treat it like an actual product, i.e. there’s support, documentation, training, feature roadmaps, product management, staff like field application engineers, support, coaching and so on.

Otherwise you end up with the worst of both worlds because like Schreier describes you end up with something that’s bug ridden, undocumented and that lacks features and where you also have no input and no leverage over the roadmap or features and the team developing it have no support staff and application engineers and can offer no tutoring.

It’s almost always better to actually license a real product instead.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on April 03, 2019, 07:38:53 AM
The Frostbite engine is fine in and of itself - but clearly EA thinks that its mere existence is enough for games to just develop themselves without any fucking trouble because "WE HAVE AN IN HOUSE ENGINE." DICE is the only one who knows shit about how it works because they built it and I'm pretty sure they do not have enough of a support staff to support it as if it was a product. Even if they did, I'm quite sure EA would just tell DICE to take them off support duty because there has to be a new version of Battlefield out by next quarter or some equally stupid corporate fuckery.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on April 03, 2019, 07:46:14 AM
An engine framework that lacks basic features like a "save and load system" which has no online features and where baking the lighting takes "24 hours or more" is not fine. It's basically a decade behind what Epic, Id or Unity offer.

edit: the whole point of licensing an engine is that you don't have to do basic tasks yourself and that you don't constantly need to reinvent the wheel.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 03, 2019, 09:11:52 AM
Pretty decent article, what world do we live in where Kotaku is publishing better articles than Forbes?

I was struck by one aspect, something I deal with quite a bit both in my professional capacity at the library and as a board member of the art association (and as the figure drawing facilitator, and and and): People who want to do 'something different' but fail to have any idea of what that would be. It's so easy to be destructive, critical and anti-(whatever), but it is so rarely backed up by any ideas. That's nihilism, dude. It's reaching epidemic proportions.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on April 03, 2019, 10:09:50 AM
An engine framework that lacks basic features like a "save and load system" which has no online features and where baking the lighting takes "24 hours or more" is not fine. It's basically a decade behind what Epic, Id or Unity offer.

edit: the whole point of licensing an engine is that you don't have to do basic tasks yourself and that you don't constantly need to reinvent the wheel.

By fine, I mean that the people who made it are able to use it to good effect. They just haven't actually done the legwork or thought it takes for that engine to be portable in the same way a licensed engine has to be, mainly because it's EA and they don't have time for that, since the next edition of Battlefield must be ready in 6 months or less.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on April 03, 2019, 11:13:01 AM
Borderlands 3 to be a 6 month Epic Store exclusive.  https://kotaku.com/borderlands-3-is-a-six-month-epic-store-exclusive-1833771692

I can wait a couple years to buy the GotY bundle.  On Steam.  On sale.

I was going to be there, day one, buying the game and the season pass.  Same as I did with Borderlands 2.

Now?  They'll get as little of my money as possible.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on April 03, 2019, 12:05:56 PM
Yeah this business fad is shitty and it will cost some of these companies quite a few sales. Release the game on my platform of choice if you want my sale.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on April 03, 2019, 12:19:57 PM
Pretty decent article, what world do we live in where Kotaku is publishing better articles than Forbes?
Kotaku's generally been pretty shitty, but since when has Forbes been known for quality gaming articles?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on April 03, 2019, 12:50:19 PM
I don't judge most media platforms as a whole any more. It's about the specific writers. Jason Schreier is always worth reading. I don't really care where he's publishing--it's pretty clear that his ethic on reportage isn't derived from his platform, it's his own approach.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on April 03, 2019, 01:30:52 PM
lol


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on April 03, 2019, 03:52:02 PM
Pretty decent article, what world do we live in where Kotaku is publishing better articles than Forbes?
Kotaku's generally been pretty shitty, but since when has Forbes been known for quality gaming articles?
I thought they were pretty good when they first started covering video games. There was one reviewer back then (who still may be around) whose name I don't remember anymore that I liked. These days they are pretty inconsistent.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 04, 2019, 01:24:32 PM
Clearly there is money to be made in consulting for game companies.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on April 04, 2019, 01:25:57 PM
The only helps if the company is willing to listen to advice which BioWare clearly wasn't/isn't.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on April 04, 2019, 01:36:00 PM
Bioware isn't the one who would have had to listen. It's EA. This is following the exact same history of every other developer that EA has bought since ever.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on April 04, 2019, 01:46:17 PM
If you read (and believe) the article the upper management at BioWare Edmonton was simply refusing to listen to feedback from its own employees and were doing stupid shit like telling people not to talk about Destiny and ignoring the advice about how to handle co-op gameplay from BioWare Austin.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 04, 2019, 01:52:14 PM
The only helps if the company is willing to listen to advice which BioWare clearly wasn't/isn't.

Yes, obviously so, but with two flops out on the market I think the appeal may be growing.

Bioware isn't the one who would have had to listen. It's EA. This is following the exact same history of every other developer that EA has bought since ever.

Also obviously, and EA is the one with all the money so that's the entity you'd approach. Bioware is incapable of concluding design meetings, so clearly they are hopeless morans destined for the dustbin of society.

If you read (and believe) the article the upper management at BioWare Edmonton was simply refusing to listen to feedback from its own employees and were doing stupid shit like telling people not to talk about Destiny and ignoring the advice about how to handle co-op gameplay from BioWare Austin.


I think these are exactly the same types who would hire an outsider to tell them what they did wrong in return for a fat check. I am not often right, though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on April 04, 2019, 02:53:01 PM
If you read (and believe) the article the upper management at BioWare Edmonton was simply refusing to listen to feedback from its own employees and were doing stupid shit like telling people not to talk about Destiny and ignoring the advice about how to handle co-op gameplay from BioWare Austin.


I did read it and I saw that. Problem seemed to start from the EA "you must make a game that is this with this engine" and filtered down to Bioware management thinking they could do no wrong and that game design just kind of fucking happens at the last minute if you believe it hard enough.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on April 05, 2019, 09:40:40 AM
Borderlands on Steam has a new HD version.  It's much prettier.

I think there's a way to import your old characters, but I haven't looked at it too much yet.  I don't think Borderlands had steam cloud saves back when I was playing it.  Actually I'm not sure it has them now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on April 05, 2019, 09:42:03 AM
p sure it had steam cloud back in the day, but it was opt in back then, or an option in game - certainly does now, it's right there on the page


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Father mike on April 10, 2019, 11:40:17 AM
Long-time tabletop favorite PARANOIA is getting the vidja game treatment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpROgV6Nbso (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpROgV6Nbso)

Quote
In a show of benevolence, Friend Computer has declared that it is authorizing BIGBEN to be part of a project that will make life more perfect for you and your fellow citizens! The company has just joined the ranks of willing servants of Friend Computer alongside Cyanide and Black Shamrock, and together they are announcing the development of Paranoia: Happiness is Mandatory: a darkly humorous CRPG, adapted from the tabletop role-playing game created by Dan Gelber, Greg Costikyan and Eric Goldberg.

If you are reading this, Citizen, then you are a person Friend Computer officially trusts. In fact, you must be one of its favorites. And it wants to show you how much it cares - by officially appointing you Troubleshooter with Red clearance! Your mission is to unearth traitors of Alpha Complex and to neutralize them. Friend Computer will definitely maybe reward you for your loyalty!

Stay alert! Trust no one! Keep your laser handy because Alpha Complex is not an entirely safe place, despite Friend Computer's unquestionable kindness. During your missions, you will be tasked with fighting Terrorists, treasonous Mutants and Secret Societies.

You must deceive and scheme to survive because even members of your own team can be a threat! Be warned, you are constantly being watched and it may be proved necessary to terminate you without notice at any moment. But don't worry! If that happens, at least you have clones available to try your luck again. Just don't expect the new clone to be completely the same as the original...

Despite everything you've just heard, be assured that Alpha Complex is and always will be a utopia. Thanks to Friend Computer, you will be happy every day. What's that look? Do I detect some doubt? Are you happy, Citizen? Be warned, not agreeing with Friend Computer is tantamount to treason, and treasonous actions are punishable by death...

I'm as excited as an infa-red drone can possibly be.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on April 10, 2019, 11:57:36 AM
About time! It took them only 30 years.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on April 10, 2019, 02:26:58 PM

Best game of my childhood.


They're gonna fuck it up, aren't they ?  I don't see how you put Paranoia in a video game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on April 10, 2019, 05:58:17 PM
Hell the problem as I see it is I'm not sure Paranoia would be *funny* anymore, these days when it's hard to tell an Onion headline from mainstream news...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on April 10, 2019, 07:04:18 PM
You mean "these days when you'd PREFER an Onion headline to the mainstream media ones."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on April 11, 2019, 01:05:34 AM
Hell the problem as I see it is I'm not sure Paranoia would be *funny* anymore, these days when it's hard to tell an Onion headline from mainstream news...

Done correctly, Paranoia is the funniest game in the history of games, irrespective of what's happening in the real world.  If it can be done, I'll Fucking Be There.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Zetor on April 11, 2019, 01:14:52 AM
Cyanide's involvement in this is weirdly appropriate.

What Could Possibly Go Wrong?  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: IainC on April 11, 2019, 01:50:54 AM
My senior content guy used to work on that project. He's ... not optimistic.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on April 11, 2019, 05:25:37 AM
This game was released a few hours ago, and it seems wonderful.

Pathway: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wesvzmNEMpU


(http://www.pathway-game.com/new/img/screenshots/pathwayShot_03.png)



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on April 11, 2019, 09:41:10 AM
That looks odd ;  Is it any cop ?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on April 11, 2019, 10:19:57 AM
oh good another tactics game


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 11, 2019, 11:45:33 AM
Gameplay trailer, too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=silXc3DGt0M


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on April 11, 2019, 01:37:44 PM
Apparently you can now pet the dog in Enter the Gungeon.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 11, 2019, 01:40:07 PM
Apparently you can now pet the dog in Enter the Gungeon.
Strong contender for winning the thread.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Father mike on April 16, 2019, 12:19:41 PM
High drama in the City of Heroes fandom (yes, that's a thing -- devoted fans for a game that's 7-years gone).

Turns out, there's been a super-sekret, invite-only private server called SCORE running the game since shutdown.  The fans are very angry. Tho, from what I can tell, they're angry that they wern't invited, not that SCORE exists.  Now that the server's existence is revealed, there are multiple requests/pleas/demands to release the server code.  No comment from NCSoft yet.

https://massivelyop.com/2019/04/15/score-city-of-heroes-emulator-leak/ (https://massivelyop.com/2019/04/15/score-city-of-heroes-emulator-leak/)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on April 16, 2019, 12:43:25 PM
lol


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on April 16, 2019, 12:54:57 PM
Oh if only we had a super sekrit server for Auto Assault or Wizardry Online... (or SWG)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 16, 2019, 01:16:58 PM
(or SWG)
Only if it's NGE yo


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on April 16, 2019, 01:51:30 PM
would absolutely set up swg server


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Zetor on April 16, 2019, 09:42:41 PM
Well, the most popular SWG server right now (SWG Legends) is post-NGE, so you know what you need to do.

Search your feelings, you know it to be true!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on April 16, 2019, 09:49:53 PM
why would someone set up a post nge server

is the administrator stephen miller?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 17, 2019, 07:02:09 AM
Steve Bannin'


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on April 17, 2019, 12:38:59 PM
Assassin's Creed Unity PC version giveaway April 17th at 07:00 am to April 25th at 12:00 am. Uplay account required. You'll need to turn off all your ad blocking to even view the page:

https://register.ubisoft.com/acu-notredame-giveaway/en-US


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on April 17, 2019, 01:09:13 PM
Octopath Traveler coming to Steam in June. Is it good?

Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRQEwauQTbs


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on April 17, 2019, 05:26:06 PM
Octopath Traveler coming to Steam in June. Is it good?

Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRQEwauQTbs

I couldn't finish it. I think as a $20 rpg it might not be terrible but I think it was fairly dull. Maybe someday I'll load it back up, but honestly I forgot it existed on my Switch.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on April 17, 2019, 05:48:09 PM
It's a SaGa game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ard on April 19, 2019, 08:15:48 PM
It's not even that.  It's really it's own weird abortion.  My problem is that it all feels the same, and they make you do it 8 times.  I thought they'd learned their lesson on that shit after bravely deault 1, but here we are.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on April 19, 2019, 09:09:20 PM
It's not even that.  It's really it's own weird abortion.  My problem is that it all feels the same, and they make you do it 8 times.  I thought they'd learned their lesson on that shit after bravely deault 1, but here we are.
you just described a saga game


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ard on April 20, 2019, 08:52:19 PM
It's not even that.  It's really it's own weird abortion.  My problem is that it all feels the same, and they make you do it 8 times.  I thought they'd learned their lesson on that shit after bravely deault 1, but here we are.
you just described a saga game

They make you do it simultaneously in parallel, and not in a way that makes sense.  Also lacks all the weirdness that I personally find compelling in saga games.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 22, 2019, 09:15:32 AM
Sonic Ether adds ray tracing to minecraft and it's awesome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jD0mELZPD8


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on May 07, 2019, 01:17:00 PM
Did we talk about the Amazon game New World? I had an alpha invite and forgot about it until I just got an email that they're going to be shutting down the alpha soon. Woops.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on May 07, 2019, 01:34:01 PM
They are gonna shut it up in a month. You have plenty of time to see what is there to be seen... which is not much. Give it a whirl though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on May 10, 2019, 10:50:52 AM
OMG YESSSSS  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk5WQe5zX7g

(Trails of Cold Steel 3)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on May 10, 2019, 12:08:19 PM
i just want to pop in and say legend of heroes for the psp was reprehensible garbage and I'm struggling to believe the series got good


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on May 10, 2019, 01:18:27 PM
i just want to pop in and say legend of heroes for the psp was reprehensible garbage and I'm struggling to believe the series got good

Yah. That would explain my hesitance as well. Generic, crappy JRPG with an end boss battle that was long as hell and liked to 1 shot you.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on May 10, 2019, 03:45:09 PM
I really like what they offer here (the Trails of Cold Steel arc/games):

- A story that starts small but grows bigger in what is an immense world that spans across 9 games with a hyper detailed history that you slowly get to know and care about. It's immense and there's a ton of scenes to read. Might not be for everyone, but it works for me.
- The huge cast of characters and the fact that they have given a semblance of life even to all the usual two-lines NPCs in every single town to the point that they ALL have an evolving little story told through their always changing lines. If you care to read it.
- The world full of slice-of-life details like the passing of seasons or train rides or a radio show. I am a sucker for those kind of things.
- The school life and activities, and the relationships with your friends. So basically, the Persona stuff.
- The turn based battles which are exactly my cup of tea, and very satisfying.

I went in expecting NOTHING. Actually I was expecting a generic, crappy JRPG. That's what it looked like from the trailers and I only picked it up because Trippy told me it was turn based. But ended up hit by something much bigger and better than I thought. The lack of actual dark tones so far is my only complaint. Everything is too chill.

Or maybe it's only for weeaboos, which I suppose I am. It's much much better than average weeaboo stuff though.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on May 10, 2019, 10:29:11 PM
The full God of War documentary by Sony is out now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJZWKBDXXFY&has_verified=1


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on May 16, 2019, 08:14:04 AM
Necrobarista. Game of the Year contender based on the trailer.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R8fPRfRQ6w


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on May 16, 2019, 11:08:27 PM
As part of a sale the Epic game store has going on right now, you can get $10 off a pre-order of Borderlands 3 (or $10 off any game $14.99 and up, but Borderlands 3 is the only notable one since Outer Worlds isn't up for pre-order yet).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 17, 2019, 07:44:25 AM
Again, I forget why I'm supposed to avoid the Epic store. Maybe because Unreal Tournament was too hard.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on May 17, 2019, 07:47:33 AM
They are partly owned by Tencent which might as well be the goddamn Chinese government all up in your shit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 17, 2019, 08:43:22 AM
Ah, yes. I suppose Chinese being in my shit is inevitable. We white people have had a good run.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on May 17, 2019, 08:58:50 AM
They are partly owned by Tencent which might as well be the goddamn Chinese government all up in your shit.

Sure is a good thing we don't get any of our consumer electronics manufactured in China then.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on May 17, 2019, 09:21:10 AM
outer worlds will be on steam

i will absolutely spend more money for a game on steam than for sale on epic's horseshit


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on May 17, 2019, 01:43:44 PM
Sure is a good thing we don't get any of our consumer electronics manufactured in China then.
I try to stick to SK but the struggle is real.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on May 24, 2019, 05:27:43 PM
Have you heard about Minion Masters. This thing just came out yesterday on Steam. It's free, it's a somehow a super lite deck building game, a tower defense, a hearthstone of sorts, a phone game, and none of those things. It seems stupid, should be stupid, but it is addictive and could become huge. The best part? You can play the usual 1v1 matches, or team up with a friend and play 2v2 against randos.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on May 24, 2019, 06:16:05 PM
Did it come out a while ago on Android? The name sounds familiar and Google has a December 2016 release date listed.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on May 24, 2019, 06:24:02 PM
Very likely. Seems like it's going through Season 4 or something and this is just a Steam/PC release. Still, I wouldn't have cared for it on a mobile. Not sure I care for it anyway, but as I said a pleasant surprise mini-game where I can team up with friends/son/partner and matchmake for the win.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: hal1 on May 24, 2019, 09:18:59 PM
75 dollars for the collection?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on May 25, 2019, 04:57:10 AM
Wot?

Anyway, someone pointed out to me that this is the same identical concept of Clash Royale, a phone game I've heard mentioned a lot in the last few years but I am not into mobile games, so my bad for missing the link.

With that said, this Minion Masters thing has been apparently out on Steam for two years, and just recently bumped itself up from Early Acess to version 1.0.

The best way to sum it up is Clash Royale made by (not)Blizzard.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on May 30, 2019, 08:13:08 AM
More Death Stranding, with release date (Nov 8 2019). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piIgkJWDuQg

Still wtf but man, it sure looks purty. Open world weirdness is my jam.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on May 30, 2019, 08:24:18 AM
Goddamn that is some trippy, unintelligible shit right there.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on May 30, 2019, 09:18:10 AM
http://larian.com/

Cool! I loved both previous cha.....


Wait a second, now that I think about it....

https://www.pcgamesn.com/baldurs-gate-3-larian-studios
https://gaminglyf.com/news/2018-10-05-rumour-divinity-original-sin-developer-larian-studios-working-on-baldurs-gate-3/


Oh dear.  :why_so_serious: :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azuredream on May 30, 2019, 11:59:45 AM
I'm down.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on May 30, 2019, 01:54:46 PM
Goddamn that is some trippy, unintelligible shit right there.

Seconded.  What the hell was that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on May 30, 2019, 02:07:07 PM
Days Gone - by Kojima.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on May 30, 2019, 04:38:58 PM
Obduction (the Myst-like from some of the original Myst team) is free for the next day or so on https://www.gog.com/. Part of their summer sale.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ard on May 30, 2019, 09:45:54 PM
Oh dear.  :why_so_serious: :ye_gods:

That's not an oh dear situation.  That's a best case scenario.  They've never made a game I've disliked, and this is right squarely in their wheelhouse.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on May 31, 2019, 02:50:14 AM
Obduction (the Myst-like from some of the original Myst team) is free for the next day or so on https://www.gog.com/. Part of their summer sale.

Nice one.  This one is also playable in VR, which makes it way more interesting as far as I am concerned.  You can even sit down on your ass and play it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 02, 2019, 05:51:46 PM
I just found out that Rebel Galaxy Outlaw is gonna be another Epic Store exclusive.

Sigh.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 02, 2019, 05:55:54 PM
Read that as Rogue Galaxy Outlaw and almost peed a bit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on June 02, 2019, 06:05:27 PM
I just found out that Rebel Galaxy Outlaw is gonna be another Epic Store exclusive.

Sigh.

I know, this is a real bummer. At least 12 months until it hits other PC platforms, too. I like supporting small, local indie devs but I just can't in this case. It will launch on consoles early though, so maybe I'll do that if it looks fun.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 03, 2019, 04:03:47 AM
SKALD: Against the Black Priory (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/scapeit/skald-against-the-black-priory)

A lovely game to keep your old eyes on. Even though it won't make the Kickstarter goal, it'll certainly resurface just after that.


(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/025/349/420/3d796fc07c6df67652e31e3df7a70051_original.gif?ixlib=rb-2.0.0&w=680&fit=max&v=1559492940&auto=format&gif-q=50&q=92&s=9c50fa19d6b265ce414e5a7af2c91016)

(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/025/349/423/3ca0b384af47956bf0afc13c5762da47_original.gif?ixlib=rb-2.0.0&w=680&fit=max&v=1559492978&auto=format&gif-q=50&q=92&s=2f8bb560993eb56ff38977473dd309b7)



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on June 03, 2019, 05:39:00 AM
1985 here I come  :heart: :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: lamaros on June 03, 2019, 10:00:36 PM
BG3 and not from Obsidian! Yes!

Can they hire Obsidian writers for the characters and keep Larian people for the combat mechanics?

And hire someone new altogether for the overall plot...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Teleku on June 03, 2019, 10:16:26 PM
Interesting!  Hope they plan on using 5th edition.

Also curious what the level range will be.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Zetor on June 03, 2019, 10:50:15 PM
I hope they'll have an option to import our BG2 TOB save, allowing to start as a new character with similar looks / classes as the original (but level 1, of course)...

... and then putting an optional Kangaxx-like super hard encounter in the game where you have to fight a 5e version of your old character  :drill:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Teleku on June 03, 2019, 11:01:45 PM
 Maybe it will be a direct follow-up to two, just like it was to the first one, and you start at level 20.  Game is you working your way though the epic levels of AD&D till you achieve actual godhood at level 30.   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: lamaros on June 04, 2019, 12:57:26 AM
Maybe it will be a direct follow-up to two, just like it was to the first one, and you start at level 20.  Game is you working your way though the epic levels of AD&D till you achieve actual godhood at level 30.   :awesome_for_real:

ToB already did this. (and it was boooooring)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on June 07, 2019, 11:19:21 AM
GMG has 37% off 12 months of PS Plus right now. The link from the promo email didn't work, but I was able to click around the site and find a valid item to put in the cart.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on June 07, 2019, 11:51:33 AM
Sony's big summer sale starts at 5 PM Pacific Time today* as well. The PS+ 1 YR will be $40 there (vs $37ish at GMG) in case you only want to make a single purchase and are planning on buying other stuff on sale.

https://www.playstation.com/en-us/campaigns/2019/days-of-play-2019/

Edit: if you prefer physical discs Amazon is having the same sale with a subset of the items:

https://www.amazon.com/stores/page/82B852D9-6677-4DA0-BAF5-77DCA1C909C1

Edit: * It *ends* at 5 PM Pacific Time on 6/17, not starts at 5 PM Pacific...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on June 07, 2019, 12:43:15 PM
Was the Spider-Man dlc worth a purchase? It’s only $16 ish right now.

I wish Days Gone was down to $25-30. I might do a fun purchase at that price but not at $40.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on June 07, 2019, 03:42:00 PM
Was the Spider-Man dlc worth a purchase? It’s only $16 ish right now.

I wish Days Gone was down to $25-30. I might do a fun purchase at that price but not at $40.
It'll get there eventually if you are willing to wait, just like God of War and Spider-Man are both $20 on sale right now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 09, 2019, 05:58:18 PM
So, after launching in Japan 7 years ago with promises of a western launch, Phantasy Star Online 2 is finally actually being imported. Kind of. Not before Spring 2020.

Seriously? The game has been out 7 years and it takes another one to translate it? This news managed to make me happy and disappointed at the same time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgOifdVKYDc


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 09, 2019, 06:05:24 PM
And here's the new From Software game by Miyazaki and apparently GRR Martin inspired by Norse mythology

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5bZaEUi65Y


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on June 10, 2019, 12:49:57 AM
And here's the new From Software game by Miyazaki and apparently GRR Martin inspired by Norse mythology

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5bZaEUi65Y

I'm curious what GRRM could have possibly contributed to this aside from the rapidly declining value of his name.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 10, 2019, 02:45:07 AM
According to a Q&A with Miyazaki, he provided the lore of the gods of this world. Personally, I loved From Software stuff and lore so much already that I fail to see how Martin could improve it and not ruin it, but I used to like Martin too. I just don't particularly want to see a mix of those styles. I am cautiously pessimistic here, I hope Miyazaki will be able to work his magic and basically obfuscate Martin's stuff into more of his own usual hazy and dark blend.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on June 10, 2019, 05:30:22 AM
Guys, have any of you tried the recently announced XBox game pass for PC? I downloaded the app on Win 10 (also updated to the latest Win version, 1903, as requested). When I open it and try to log in, it doesn't show anything, it stays on the generic welcome page. I can actually log in through the browser, but you need the app in order to download games.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 10, 2019, 11:23:46 AM
Is it me or the new trailer for The Outer Worlds makes it looks way less cool than last year's?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yijkEeUmx0


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 10, 2019, 11:34:24 AM
Guys, have any of you tried the recently announced XBox game pass for PC? I downloaded the app on Win 10 (also updated to the latest Win version, 1903, as requested). When I open it and try to log in, it doesn't show anything, it stays on the generic welcome page. I can actually log in through the browser, but you need the app in order to download games.

I just downloaded it and it works fine for me. It's just another pathetic launcher compared to Steam, as bad as Origin or Epic or Uplay (it's unbelievable how bad they are interface-wise), but it works. And all those games for 4 euros? Deal.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 10, 2019, 11:43:11 AM
Is it me or the new trailer for The Outer Worlds makes it looks way less cool than last year's?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yijkEeUmx0


haha oh no outer worlds looks shitty


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on June 10, 2019, 11:47:25 AM
Guys, have any of you tried the recently announced XBox game pass for PC? I downloaded the app on Win 10 (also updated to the latest Win version, 1903, as requested). When I open it and try to log in, it doesn't show anything, it stays on the generic welcome page. I can actually log in through the browser, but you need the app in order to download games.

I just downloaded it and it works fine for me. It's just another pathetic launcher compared to Steam, as bad as Origin or Epic or Uplay (it's unbelievable how bad they are interface-wise), but it works. And all those games for 4 euros? Deal.

Messed around a bit with powershell thanks to some hints on the Web, and now it works for me too. Yep, downloading Metro Exodus as we speak. That's a fucking deal for €4 (will probably try out Vampyr as well).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on June 10, 2019, 12:29:15 PM
EVIL GENIUS 2!  :drill: :drillf: :drill: :drillf: :drill: :drillf:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KTvZtCOEEI

https://evilgeniusgame.com/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on June 10, 2019, 12:56:46 PM
Assassins Creed Odyssey (which I have enjoyed) is getting a Quest Builder tool, so now you can input quests to the community. I look forward to collecting 12 Spartan penises as this goes live.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 10, 2019, 05:23:54 PM
Midnight Ghost Hunt. Too weird.

What is even going on here? Hunters hunt haunted props, ghosts haunts props to hunt the hunters. Just... watch the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2Q-m_oiuDk


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 10, 2019, 05:32:36 PM
Midnight Ghost Hunt looks like the definition of a 7.0 on Metacritic. So, it'll be fine.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on June 11, 2019, 02:20:34 AM
I think we had this conversation already (or a very similar one), but I saw a new FFVII trailer and I was floored by what I saw....right up until the real time action combat.  Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.  I really don't understand this thinking, like at all.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 11, 2019, 07:38:11 AM
the actual gameplay on the demo at e3 looked like dogshit

and I'm not talking about the button mashing nonsense


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on June 11, 2019, 09:18:22 AM
Just watched the FFVII trailer and... what the fuck? I hated the quasi-real-time nature of the original VII, what the fuck is this tappity-tappity-tappity shit now?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: 01101010 on June 11, 2019, 09:47:38 AM
I dunno... I like the trailer - but FFVII has nostalgia hooks in me from early college days. Gameplay if that is what it is, looks to be a modernized version of the original turn based.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on June 11, 2019, 10:18:41 AM
Holy shit. Collection of Mana in the Switch.

Including the never-ported Mana 3 game.

Out today.

Also, Breath of the Wild 2 in development.

Nintendo wins E3.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on June 11, 2019, 10:44:46 AM
I dunno... I like the trailer - but FFVII has nostalgia hooks in me from early college days. Gameplay if that is what it is, looks to be a modernized version of the original turn based.



I don’t want modernized turn based, especially when it doesn’t look like turn based at all.  I want actual turn based.  That is what FF is supposed to be, and exactly the reason that none of their newer stuff actually means anything to anybody.  Which is a bit of an exaggeration, but fuck it.  15 is basically an action RPG, and that’s what this looks like.  Fuck that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: 01101010 on June 11, 2019, 12:34:17 PM

Nintendo wins E3.

ummmm... ok?   :uhrr:


unless I am missing the /green part.... it HAS been a long day


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on June 11, 2019, 12:49:32 PM
I was under the impression that Breath of the Wild was the last Link game?  Is this a new hero?  Or are they ditching the last Link game part?  Or is this a prequel or something?

Reading about it, seems to be a sequel.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on June 11, 2019, 01:00:16 PM
I need a t-shirt that reads "Final Fantasy 7 never had turn-based combat; it just paused in the combat menus if you turned on that option".

Son told me about the FF7 remake and I almost died from lack of interest.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on June 11, 2019, 02:03:07 PM
ATB (Active Time Battle) has been around since 4. Everything else is just adding meters and various layers of doodads.

Kind of interested in that anime SMT looking game, Astral Chain. BoW2 will be awesome, whatever it is in actuality. I just want another game in that framework.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on June 11, 2019, 04:01:05 PM
I'm way more excited about the Mana ports and a new Animal Crossing. But, Ninty is stepping on their dicks with the new Pokemon games so it's kind of a mixed bag.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on June 11, 2019, 09:57:50 PM
Fine, it was ATB or Turn Based.  I tried both ways.  Both imply a certain sense of "okay, it's this persons turn now, I have to enter a command", the main difference being how much urgency I had to have.  It is a far cry from what you see in, for example, FF15.  No matter how you spin it, the series has been going away from some sort of Turn Based combat and heading towards button mashing action.  A mistake, in my opinion.  I am the exact target demographic for a FFVII remake, and now I am wondering if I will even bother.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on June 12, 2019, 07:15:34 AM
Fine, it was ATB or Turn Based.  I tried both ways.  Both imply a certain sense of "okay, it's this persons turn now, I have to enter a command", the main difference being how much urgency I had to have.  It is a far cry from what you see in, for example, FF15.  No matter how you spin it, the series has been going away from some sort of Turn Based combat and heading towards button mashing action.  A mistake, in my opinion.  I am the exact target demographic for a FFVII remake, and now I am wondering if I will even bother.
This, 100%. I'd buy the fucking collectors edition if the combat was the same.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 12, 2019, 09:35:16 AM
Same for me. I managed to enjoy FF 15 because I adored the visuals, flavour, setting, driving. But the combat is what prevented me from liking it so much more. That's not what I am looking for in a Final Fantasy main numbered title for fuck's sake.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 12, 2019, 10:58:38 AM
Remember Lost Ark? We are still not getting it, but in Korea they are releasing a huge weird dance-y update.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VIbB68jZfw


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on June 12, 2019, 01:34:59 PM
I so want that game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 12, 2019, 02:11:21 PM
sigh


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on June 13, 2019, 11:16:07 AM
Gloomhaven Digital is looking rather nice, which just fucking annoys me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 13, 2019, 11:44:07 AM
On that note (tabletop ports), also interesting is the upcoming Warhammer Underworlds on Steam. Warhammer skirmish with deckbuilding.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1022310/Warhammer_Underworlds_Online/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on June 13, 2019, 12:19:39 PM
Is Dark Souls 3 remastered worth it at the bargain basement sale price, or was it just shite ?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 13, 2019, 12:23:28 PM
here's my experience with dark souls 3

someone bought it for me because I didn't want to buy it and he was mega-hyped

i told him not to, I was already skilled at *Souls style games and didn't need more of them unless it was a Demon's Souls remake

he didn't believe me, so he bought it and told me to play in front of him

I breezed through the first area and he left the room

i uninstalled the game


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on June 13, 2019, 12:33:49 PM
lol.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on June 13, 2019, 12:36:35 PM
There is no remastered version of Dark Souls III. If you mean Dark Souls III rather than Dark Souls Remastered then it's a good game. It's more "twitchy" than Dark Souls as it inherited some of the faster gameplay style from Bloodborne (faster attack animations, better roll/dodge, less blocking). It also looks very nice. I think the general consensus is the series is ranked from best to worst: I, III, II. They are all good games, though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on June 13, 2019, 12:43:25 PM
No, sorry, I mean the Dark Souls Remastered with the 3 Engine.

I get confused since I stopped drinking.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on June 13, 2019, 12:47:38 PM
I was under the impression you cannot legally be considered a Scot if you stop drinking.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on June 13, 2019, 12:59:55 PM
So any version of Dark Souls is/was a very good game *if* you like that style of combat and gameplay. On the PC many would say the original Prepare To Die Edition with DSfix is graphically better than Remastered because Remastered fucked up the lighting. Remastered does have some quality-of-life and gameplay improvements that the original doesn’t have unless you install mods (on the PC). The reason Remastered gets mixed reviews on Steam is because people are comparing it to PTDE with DSfix and the fact that they removed PTDE from sale when Remastered was released not because Dark Souls is a bad game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 13, 2019, 04:30:39 PM
Gameplay video of the Paranoia game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNCdoZIUXG8

I don't even know what I was looking for here, but I am unimpressed.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on June 13, 2019, 07:00:41 PM
Might be a good idea, IGN, when showing a gameplay vid that involves selecting things from dialog trees to at least let the trees sit on the screen long enough to fucking read them.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on June 13, 2019, 07:14:36 PM
Fine, it was ATB or Turn Based.  I tried both ways.  Both imply a certain sense of "okay, it's this persons turn now, I have to enter a command", the main difference being how much urgency I had to have.  It is a far cry from what you see in, for example, FF15.  No matter how you spin it, the series has been going away from some sort of Turn Based combat and heading towards button mashing action.  A mistake, in my opinion.  I am the exact target demographic for a FFVII remake, and now I am wondering if I will even bother.
This, 100%. I'd buy the fucking collectors edition if the combat was the same.

Edit: better description of new combat system:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iinhNS28ZXg&t=94s

Still ATB-based:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSiFuQ67xlM&t=66s


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on June 13, 2019, 07:37:09 PM
Fine, it was ATB or Turn Based.  I tried both ways.  Both imply a certain sense of "okay, it's this persons turn now, I have to enter a command", the main difference being how much urgency I had to have.  It is a far cry from what you see in, for example, FF15.  No matter how you spin it, the series has been going away from some sort of Turn Based combat and heading towards button mashing action.  A mistake, in my opinion.  I am the exact target demographic for a FFVII remake, and now I am wondering if I will even bother.
This, 100%. I'd buy the fucking collectors edition if the combat was the same.

Edit: better description of new combat system:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iinhNS28ZXg&t=94s

Still ATB-based:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSiFuQ67xlM&t=66s

Looks complete shit. The 2nd video, the guys just sound like idiots. "It's bringing turned based into this generation" "It's not like Kingdom Hearts" No, fuck you, it's exactly like that. A halfass Devil May Cry button mashy combat and stupid cover mechanics, that also happens to be pausable to execute spells and some abilities. Fuck this.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on June 13, 2019, 09:57:39 PM
I don't think I had ever seen these original Diablo pitch docs before: https://imgur.com/gallery/5nHpA4r

Also, Brevik has a new game out on Steam but I haven't tried it yet. Looks like Terarria Diablo or something. https://store.steampowered.com/app/697550/It_Lurks_Below/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on June 13, 2019, 10:15:48 PM
Fine, it was ATB or Turn Based.  I tried both ways.  Both imply a certain sense of "okay, it's this persons turn now, I have to enter a command", the main difference being how much urgency I had to have.  It is a far cry from what you see in, for example, FF15.  No matter how you spin it, the series has been going away from some sort of Turn Based combat and heading towards button mashing action.  A mistake, in my opinion.  I am the exact target demographic for a FFVII remake, and now I am wondering if I will even bother.
This, 100%. I'd buy the fucking collectors edition if the combat was the same.

Edit: better description of new combat system:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iinhNS28ZXg&t=94s

Still ATB-based:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSiFuQ67xlM&t=66s

Looks complete shit. The 2nd video, the guys just sound like idiots. "It's bringing turned based into this generation" "It's not like Kingdom Hearts" No, fuck you, it's exactly like that. A halfass Devil May Cry button mashy combat and stupid cover mechanics, that also happens to be pausable to execute spells and some abilities. Fuck this.

See the videos (mostly the first), I guess I am somewhere in the middle.  It doesn't look like ATB as I would define it, but it also doesn't look like the utter shit of FF15.  I can deal with a bit of tactical button mashing as long as it makes sense, flows well, and still gives a payoff in terms of big breaks, spells and/or summons thrown in.  Some optimism returned.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on June 16, 2019, 09:34:05 AM
The FFVII Remake combat looks fine. It feels like a modernized version of Parasite Eve or Vagrant Story combat, minus the part-targeting.

I swear some things make you guys look like RPGCodex at times.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 16, 2019, 10:13:10 AM
I swear some things make you guys look like RPGCodex at times.

What a terrible comparison. RPG Codex is a nightmare.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 19, 2019, 03:33:29 PM
Uplay just launched (as far as I know) they Uplay+ subscription service. The first month is free though. 0 money to play lots of stuff for free. Worth it.

"Starting September 3". WTF? Ridiculous.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Draegan on June 21, 2019, 08:19:50 AM
There any good videos of the combat changes? Just curious.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 22, 2019, 02:29:52 AM
There's a new dungeon crawler in the style of Bard's Tale, Wizardry, Legend of Grimrock and the likes. It's only available on Microsoft (for $1) and Epic but if you are into these games this is impossible to miss and worth installing the crap launchers.

It has all the things you would expect from this games, on top of the very good graphics (Unreal engine 4) with the extra bonus of being able to look around freely with the mouse while still moving around on a grid. It feels really good. The whole game is heavily narrated and while the voice work is obviously very cheesy I think it fits the 80s style perfectly and also reminds me of tabletop RPGing with friends.

I haven't advanced much but my first impressions are that this game is absolutely great.

Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTp_C2By3ww

Gameplay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5GZo4vwlD0


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on June 22, 2019, 04:13:35 AM
Seems full price over here, otherwise I would have given it a go.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Zetor on June 22, 2019, 04:45:50 AM
There's a new dungeon crawler in the style of Bard's Tale, Wizardry, Legend of Grimrock and the likes. It's only available on Microsoft (for $1) and Epic but if you are into these games this is impossible to miss and worth installing the crap launchers.

It has all the things you would expect from this games, on top of the very good graphics (Unreal engine 4) with the extra bonus of being able to look around freely with the mouse while still moving around on a grid. It feels really good. The whole game is heavily narrated and while the voice work is obviously very cheesy I think it fits the 80s style perfectly and also reminds me of tabletop RPGing with friends.

I haven't advanced much but my first impressions are that this game is absolutely great.

Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTp_C2By3ww

Gameplay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5GZo4vwlD0
Yep, I played that one when it was originally released (if only because the devs are Hungarian and I wanted to see if my country is capable of making a decent RPG lol).

Mini-review: it is a modernized puzzle-heavy Lands of Lore with great audiovisuals, Starcrawlers-like turn-based combat that's more attrition / resource management-based than one'd expect, some minor gameplay innovations, and a very folk tale-like feeling.

Overall I enjoyed it quite a bit, though you may need to occasionally look for spoilers concerning the more obscure secrets and puzzles... the combat system is also relatively easy to break, especially if you play a mage and manage to surprise the enemies (unless they patched or balanced abilities since release).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 22, 2019, 06:24:20 AM
Seems full price over here, otherwise I would have given it a go.


The game is full price. The Microsoft pass thingie should be 1£/$/€ eveywhere for the first month.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on June 22, 2019, 09:20:00 AM
Operencia looks cool, but not cool enough to stop boycotting Epic. I'd rather have it on my Switch anyway.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 22, 2019, 10:53:49 AM
If you get it on Microsoft Pass you are as far as I know bypassing Epic though.

In other news Disaster Report 4: Summer Memories - First Impact is coming to the West!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6jHR4pRxyA

It's a Japanese story-driven earthquake simulator, with plot and characters. In fact, 60 characters are reported to be in the game for this fourth entry.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on June 22, 2019, 08:21:27 PM
I'm still on Win7 on my desktop.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 22, 2019, 09:21:01 PM
Disaster Report on the switch will be great.

The Switch literally exists for me to play straight Japanese jank.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 24, 2019, 12:59:04 PM
Children of Morta will be released in September but it just had a Demo weekend. I think it's really nice. It's a pixelated Diablo like game except you don't really drop equip. That's a huge minus, but on the plus side there is the "Family" gimmick. Basically, you are a family of folks, including father, mother, uncles, grandma and children, and those are you classes. The plot is such that your family has been protecting the land for generation so you are all in this together. Each class relative is like a Diablo class, with skills, talents and builds, and that is a nice aspect if you care for the theme of your games. Also, it can be played coop and that's another pretty cool thing.


Take a look: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKhx73nYEY8




(http://childrenofmorta.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/childrenofmorta_screenshot_02.png)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 24, 2019, 01:02:22 PM
if equipment doesn't drop it's not diablo and its bad

edit: legit, I don't know why anyone would make an isometric action RPG and not have endless loot, why even waste the development time (yes I'm aware of there being a few high profile games that have done this, and i hate them)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on June 24, 2019, 03:00:50 PM
Even bad loot is better than no loot; I'm not going to even consider an ARPG without any items.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 25, 2019, 07:10:53 AM
Samurai Shodown releases today on PS4. It's a reboot, 26 years after the original and 10 years since the last entry in the series, and this is actually awesome. I know pretty much no one on f13 cares about fighting games, but this is a big deal, and it's great, and I love to talk about it. Should anyone feel like slicing each other up, feel free to add me on PSN: Falconeer97


Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0zLzgGd0Yc



(https://cache.escapistmagazine.com/2019/06/21171749/Samurai-Shodown-1.jpg)




Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 25, 2019, 07:39:30 AM
this is dope and exciting but turning on my ps4 sounds like effort


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 25, 2019, 09:00:38 AM
Yeah, I agree. I had to get it now, but this is coming to Steam and PC in November.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 25, 2019, 11:09:01 AM
Capcom is working and kind of stealth releasing a card game using all their IPs. Project Battle is the name.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWagj3ufwZg



(https://www.gamepur.com/files/inline-images/2018/2a9050aa5cfca2ed1c8b9d5afc4c43b0.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 25, 2019, 11:41:47 AM
this looks unique, which is dope

but in its uniqueness, it looks stupid


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Draegan on June 27, 2019, 05:48:22 AM
Is dope a new word for you?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 27, 2019, 06:35:28 AM
No, it's just a quick one to type.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on June 28, 2019, 06:57:12 AM
Word


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on June 28, 2019, 12:21:09 PM
rad


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 29, 2019, 06:57:45 PM
Last year a really cool lesser known sci-fi movie called Prospect ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F96wbQ698Z0 - WATCH IT) with Pedro Pascal was released. I thought I was the only one who watched but that clearly wasn't the case as a weird game called The Cycle is now in beta and it's clearly the competitive videogame version of it.

Here's the game:

- 20 people land on a planet. Either in squads of 4, or alone.
- The planet is about to be destroyed by some anomaly, in exactly 20 minutes.
- The players have been hired by some corporation and they have 20 minutes to complete some quests for the corp. Quests range from mining minerals to killing some mobs to downloading some abandoned facility data.
- The point of the game is: complete as many of the assigned contracts you can in the 20 minutes. Make money. Get out of the planet alive to collect your completed contracts's paychecks.

The problem? Other prospectors, meaning other players. But this is the beauty of the game because you might want to kill them (and vice versa) but you do NOT have to kill them, this is not a survival game or a battle royale. You do NOT have to, in fact you can just hit T whenever you see another player and offer an instant hard-coded alliance. But you can more easily complete your contracts if you get rid of competitors, and you can make sure you won't be backstabbed when the evac ship comes at the end of the 20 minutes to get everyone out of the planet before the explosion.

So in short, this game captures wonderfully the theme of the movie (depressed mood aside, unfortunately) where the prospectors are risking their lives on a dying planet to squeeze every last credit out of it, and of course they work together but don't really trust each other. And generally renders very well the idea that the players are not killers, just hardened space prospectors who would do anything to protect their contracts but where the main goal is to leave alive and with the money.

I have not heard of this at all before today, I downloaded the beta thinking it was crap (the trailer is crap) but after playing a while I am quite impressed. It's a really original, unique, and potentially addictive take on competitive multiplayer arenas because for the first time you can potentially win without shooting and just by completing quests. They call it "a competitive match-based first person quester" and it makes sense.


EDIT: I just noticed that this is being made by Yager, those behind Spec Ops: The Line.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Reg on June 30, 2019, 04:23:06 PM
I think I'd rather drink poison than play this horrible sounding game. :awesome_for_real:  I mean sheesh. There was nothing forcing you to kill other players in UO either but it was still a sucky gankfest for its first few years.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 30, 2019, 05:18:21 PM
It's not Baldur's Gate, it's a multiplayer FPS for god's sake, and "ganking" is why the genre was invented. The twist here is that attacking other players is *sometimes* not the most viable strategy. At the end of the match there is one winner and if you die you are out, but leaving the planet alive even if not in 1st place still gives rewards so there's a point in trying to get on the evac ship alive instead of just shooting at everything as if it was a battle royale.
Regardless, it's 20 minutes slices of "emergent" shit. If it's not your genre then it's not your genre, but this looks good.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on June 30, 2019, 06:20:09 PM
Look at this guy, thinking it's not going to become a complete murderfest.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Reg on June 30, 2019, 08:01:25 PM
Bunch of hawks waiting for the newbs to log in and get owned. I know that routine.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on July 01, 2019, 01:55:44 AM
I want a T-Shirt with "Trinsic West Gate since 1997" printed on it  :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 01, 2019, 05:39:46 AM
Since you are caught up on the carebear shit, I'll let you have it. Here's a new description of the game:


"Hey, a new Battle Royale (It is not a Battle Royale game) FPS game is coming out from the people who made Spec Ops The Line. In this obvious murderfest though you have 20 minutes to complete as many contracts as you can through randomly assigned quests, which is new for the genre, and leave the planet alive to count the money. It's pretty cool if you enjoy games where gamers can shoot at each other, but there's more than that going on".


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 01, 2019, 06:45:15 AM
Are we really using carebear in 2019?

That said, I get what you're saying, Falc. It's a competitive pvp game that's trying not to force you into violent resolution every time. I like the idea and wish there was more of that in general in our murderous psychopathic hobby.

But nothing will ever stop people from being shitbags online. NOTHING. Because people are, in general, shitbags.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on July 01, 2019, 07:48:32 AM
It's always weird how sensitive reds are to being called murderers.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 01, 2019, 09:12:21 AM
Haha. After 15 years on f13 you still don't know that I love Felucca and PvP with reds but I've never been a red player in any game ever? I guess that doesn't fit your two-bit narrative.

Anyway, this is not a MMORPG, I probably misrepresented it in my first post and a misunderstanding spawned the above nonsense. This is a competitive fucking shooter arena made of twenty minutes matches. The bonus here is that it is centered around quests and surviving instead of *just* shooting and placing first.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 01, 2019, 09:16:09 AM
i like the idea of this unfortunately

"Sign up to play on Epic Games Store."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 01, 2019, 09:30:40 AM
Ironically, I'm currently jonesing for something new to distract me this month until the new Madden fix comes along...and the Steam recommendation AI method is failing me entirely. You've got my games list that can easily be weighted by playtime...

First five games were all multiplayer-centric.

Closed window, looks like the Browns will go on to an 11th Superbowl this summer.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on July 01, 2019, 05:44:17 PM
Haha. After 15 years on f13 you still don't know that I love Felucca and PvP with reds but I've never been a red player in any game ever? I guess that doesn't fit your two-bit narrative.

Anyway, this is not a MMORPG, I probably misrepresented it in my first post and a misunderstanding spawned the above nonsense. This is a competitive fucking shooter arena made of twenty minutes matches. The bonus here is that it is centered around quests and surviving instead of *just* shooting and placing first.

Is there some kind of persistence between matches? In a regular FPS, you win to say that you won. In this, it sounds like you do "better" if you complete some of your quests and live but don't "win", and I'm not sure what the appeal of coming in 2nd place is if there isn't some sort of carrot that carries over beyond twenty minute matches.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 01, 2019, 07:16:56 PM
Yes there is. There are three factions. Before every match you pick your employer. Based on your performance, you get more or less XP to climb the faction ranks which provide different blueprints for better weapons, gadgets, cosmetics.
Also persistent are the crafting materials. In order to craft the stuff out of the blueprints you need materials which you harvest during the match either as loot from the mobs or by gathering it.

The carrot is not huge but it's there. In many ways the game is more like a race than a Last Man Standing. A race at questing better, faster and smarter than your opponents. It's not like you stop racing when you realize you won't be first. This is why they call it a "competitive quester".
There are three ways a match can end for you, as opposed to the usual two of most fps arena games:

1) Best reward: you made it out alive and in 1st place. And this doesn't even mean you killed anybody. You can theoretically win the match without ever shooting a player. Which is not rare if you rack up lots of money early and are the first one to run to the landing pad. You get the
2) Worst reward: you died.
3) Decent rewards, based on your placement: you made it out alive in any other place other than 1st.

Anyway, dying sucks. When the 20 minutes are about to expire and the whole planet is about to blow, the weather goes crazy and thunder and lightning suddenly hammering the ground and the dropship pilot keeps barking at you to get on the landing pad or you'll be left behind, the sense of urgency takes you regardless of the ranking. Game-wise, you don't want to die. Carrot-wise, systems are in place. Enough? We'll see.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on July 01, 2019, 07:52:23 PM
Sounds pretty interesting. Don't think I like FPS enough in general to get it from Epic, but hopefully someone else knocks it off.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on July 05, 2019, 05:43:50 AM
Capcom is working and kind of stealth releasing a card game using all their IPs. Project Battle is the name.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWagj3ufwZg
This is out now for iOS and Android. It’s called TEPPEN.

https://teppenthegame.com/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 05, 2019, 08:47:26 AM
PC or  :mob:

Anyway, trying Android.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 05, 2019, 08:49:09 AM
i would like them to make one with more mass market appeal

they can call it TEPPENYAKI


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 05, 2019, 09:14:44 AM
Or maybe a born to be wild version called TEPPENWOLF


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 05, 2019, 11:27:39 AM
This is Clash Royale more than it is a card game. And so far I think it's mostly garbage, but I'll try to explore it a bit more just for the sake of Chun Li.f


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 09, 2019, 09:00:21 AM
Gloomhaven gameplay video just came out. I think I want this more than I want the table top version. Sure, the box and the pieces look great, but it always felt a bit like they wanted me to play from a box something that was videogame native.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFw_CBYWN4A


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on July 09, 2019, 09:39:08 AM
It says victory only goes to the most daring players with the sharpest minds, so I guess I'm out.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on July 09, 2019, 06:34:48 PM
I have the Gloomhaven box and I slowly slog through it solo. I'm thinking I might just shelve it permanently and wait for this to be fully fleshed out. I like the cell shaded art and really, the rules pretty much already feel like a video game, right down to cards that act as functions.

They won't likely do it, but the only 'upgrade' they should add is a better overworld system than the box game has.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 12, 2019, 06:22:55 AM
Pffffftt the game comes out next Wednesday for 25 money but it's Early Access so... no coop and won't be in until 2020. What's the point?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 12, 2019, 06:40:57 AM
Harvesting the low hanging fruit?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 12, 2019, 12:08:49 PM
Kind of a cool nostalgia trip, 7 Days alpha 1 revisit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiBf8aqwmSI&list=PLYL9eL_H8WdFtMFahVBTGLL4LmU9gUYsp&index=4

I came into it at alpha 10 in 2015  :why_so_serious: I'll actually be a little sad when it's "done" because each alpha release has been great to play through.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on July 13, 2019, 02:11:06 AM
Pffffftt the game comes out next Wednesday for 25 money but it's Early Access so... no coop and won't be in until 2020. What's the point?

it's got co-op if you're in the same room.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 17, 2019, 03:17:47 PM
Gloomhaven is out and Ironwood has taken one for the team. How is it?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on July 18, 2019, 10:14:12 AM
It's...not what you're wanting yet.

To expand a little ;  it's fine and some of it is really faithful and nice, but the combat ain't ready because of the stupid decision not to show the combat deck in full glory.

It's fucking annoying.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 18, 2019, 11:54:34 AM
In the meantime, some friends convinced me to get into Tabeltop Simulator. My mind is blown. It's one of the most beautiful pieces of software I've ever seen, and the best bang for my buck EVER since what I got for $20 is simply impossible to measure. Including yes the whole Gloomhaven experience. I can't even begin... I didn't believe it was this good and this easy and sweet to play games with your friends, but it turns out it's perfection and more.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 18, 2019, 03:17:55 PM
funny i tried to use it once and fucking hate it

board games lose everything the moment it's not a physical product


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 18, 2019, 04:50:18 PM
I agree on so many levels. Actually getting into this room where my distant online friends were playing Warhammer Nightvault on a perfectly set up table changed my mind. Then I found out that there is everything available, including BattleTech, and I lost it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 19, 2019, 08:59:46 AM
Why the hell is MUA3 a switch exclusive  :uhrr:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on July 19, 2019, 09:21:26 AM
Because the Switch is the only console worth owning in 2019?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on July 19, 2019, 09:25:20 AM
Because Nintendo coughed up the money to have it made.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 19, 2019, 11:38:42 AM
Because Nintendo coughed up the money to have it made.

Scooped up exclusivity or paid for development directly? Hate the former, but I can dig the latter.

I would really like MUA3 on the PS4, tho.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on July 19, 2019, 12:20:04 PM
It's published by Nintendo so, yeah, they paid for it. I.e. it's like Bayonetta 2 or the upcoming Astral Chain, which was/is being developed by Platinum Games but published by Nintendo and so are exclusive to Nintendo platforms, and not like Octopath Traveler which was developed and published by Square Enix but was a time-limited Switch exclusive.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 19, 2019, 12:25:13 PM
really wish SCEI would back off the Demon's Souls license

so we can get sequels to an actual good game

and a remaster


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 19, 2019, 12:40:49 PM
Yeah on the fuckin Switch maybe? No thanks.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on July 19, 2019, 12:50:03 PM
The JoyCons are awful but otherwise why the Switch hate?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 19, 2019, 01:41:23 PM
Switch is the best console Ninty has released since the SNES, or generously the GBA.

I don't see what there's not to like about it... as a portable gaming system.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on July 19, 2019, 02:11:02 PM
Ironically, I played one for the first time today.  That's some damn good Kart.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 19, 2019, 02:28:02 PM
I am not interested in portable gaming so more power to everyone who loves it, but exclusives? That's low.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on July 19, 2019, 02:31:54 PM
It docks. Half the time our Switch is played, it's on the rather large TV using a non-crappy controller.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 19, 2019, 02:33:18 PM
I have never plugged mine into a TV. But yes, it even comes with the dock.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 19, 2019, 03:19:02 PM
Last time I checked the Switch does everything the PS4 and the Xbox do but way worse. Except for portability of course. Meaning, if a game is also available on the Switch it runs and looks worse than the other consoles. And it's not even that cheaper cause you have to pay for a real controller immediately which is 70 dollars/euros. Unless that has changed, what's exactly to like about the Switch?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 19, 2019, 03:20:20 PM
i can play slay the spire and whatnot in bed without the tv on, you knucklehead


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on July 19, 2019, 03:27:35 PM
You can play Xenoblade Chronicles 2 while you poop. Zelda: Breath of the Wild, again, while pooping.

I was able to play a good amount of Dragon's Dogma, Stardew Valley, Darkest Dungeon, Hollow Knight (eh, didn't care for it) while on vacation or business trips.

It's not fired up every day here as my son is obsessed with the new MLB: the Show, and I have a pretty serious Path of Exile problem, but it's the most fun I've had with a Nintendo product since Eternal Darkness on the Gamecube.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on July 19, 2019, 03:29:11 PM
Last time I checked the Switch does everything the PS4 and the Xbox do but way worse. Except for portability of course. Meaning, if a game is also available on the Switch it runs and looks worse than the other consoles. And it's not even that cheaper cause you have to pay for a real controller immediately which is 70 dollars/euros. Unless that has changed, what's exactly to like about the Switch?
Exclusives*. Also many of the cross-platform games run "good enough" on the Switch so if it's something you might want to play portably you might as well just get it on the Switch.

* Ignoring the fact that many of them came from the Wii U


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 19, 2019, 03:36:02 PM
Look, I said it before it even launched: I am gonna buy a Switch just for the new Shin Megami Tensei when it comes out, so I don't *hate* it. It just doesn't give me anything at the moment. If I had bought it in the past two years, I think I would have used it literally zero times. Actually that's not true, I would have tried so hard to like Smash Ultimate only to find that no it just isn't something I enjoy. I know this cause my roommates had the Switch and that's the only thing they ever had that I wanted to play, for a few nights. Oh, and Xenokblade Chronicles, that seemed like something I'd like. But none of this is worth a couple hundred dollars for me. I think it's a fact: the Switch is great because it's portable. If you like me don't play when you leave your chair, it's useless.

PS: In bed I have a gaming laptop.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on July 19, 2019, 04:25:41 PM
Last time I checked the Switch does everything the PS4 and the Xbox do but way worse. Except for portability of course. Meaning, if a game is also available on the Switch it runs and looks worse than the other consoles. And it's not even that cheaper cause you have to pay for a real controller immediately which is 70 dollars/euros. Unless that has changed, what's exactly to like about the Switch?
The Switch isn't something to really compare to the PS4/XBONE. For a PC gamer though, the Switch is by far the best purchase because portability + exclusives.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on July 19, 2019, 11:55:02 PM
Speaking of MUA3 holy shit I can't even remember that last time I fought a boss as bullshit as Mysterio.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on July 20, 2019, 12:09:29 PM
Just noticed that Prey is six quid on steam for everything ;  Anyone who DOESN'T have this, it's a good Dog Brent.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 23, 2019, 08:45:07 AM
Legend of Aria out on Steam August 6th.

This is the best Ultima Online clone ever. It does some things better than UO and some worse. It's not bad at all, it is just dated and it could use more features considering it came out twenty years after the original (at the moment there's just a fraction of the content you had in UO circa 2003), but overall it is the best UO-like game I've ever tried and I definitely had fun with it for a couple of weeks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os-wKHDheNM&feature=em-lsp


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 23, 2019, 08:57:59 AM
oops wrong thred yo


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on July 24, 2019, 08:35:56 AM
Defiant Development (Hand of Fate 1&2) is closing.

https://twitter.com/DefiantDev/status/1153868904067813376


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 24, 2019, 08:57:36 AM
The game they were working on seemed pretty cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GBLLz3fxfc&fbclid=IwAR2ob_gSZKHDPtSrSctY3l_dbSCv30Zr93HPY3jWLfb-_3B-Itc6z9XnVEQ


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 26, 2019, 01:39:10 PM
This came out today and I'd love to be able to play it (but I can't). Fire Emblem is one of the few Nintendo game franchises I don't find insufferable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdkyi7Myg-c


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on July 26, 2019, 01:50:51 PM
Note that Three Houses is as much if not more so a Persona-style social/relationship game (complete with limited time/resources to do those things) as it is a Fire Emblem game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 26, 2019, 02:09:27 PM
EXACTLY.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on July 28, 2019, 08:33:05 AM
It's...not what you're wanting yet.

To expand a little ;  it's fine and some of it is really faithful and nice, but the combat ain't ready because of the stupid decision not to show the combat deck in full glory.

It's fucking annoying.


This has been patched a fair bit and is actually a lot better now.  They've changed the reporting on the combat deck and it's better now, though it would be GREAT if they would get a grip and put a log in there.  It's still early access though, so expect bizarre stuff like suddenly finding you have 5 burned cards after a long rest for No Fucking Reason.

But it's miles better and I no longer feel hugely cheated out my money.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 28, 2019, 04:46:51 PM
Two-men team working on this D'Souls clone cauld Bleak Faith. Asking 26.000 on Kickstarter (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mivukcevic/bleak-faith-forsaken) (and not getting it so far).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT1_vbvGxoc


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 29, 2019, 04:58:20 PM
MechWarrior 5 delayed to December AND now an Epic Store exclusive.   :ye_gods:

https://www.polygon.com/2019/7/25/8930718/mechwarrior-5-mercenaries-delayed-december-epic-games-store-exclusive

EDIT: According to them, they sold 20.000 preorders so far. I mean, before the announcement. They had 700 refund request after that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on July 29, 2019, 05:55:03 PM
Epic Store exclusive.   :ye_gods:

My interest level went from 100 to zero with that announcement.  C'est la vie.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on July 29, 2019, 06:37:49 PM
Timed exclusive.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on July 29, 2019, 06:46:56 PM
Can the Epic Store just fuck off and die now?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 29, 2019, 07:10:12 PM
Yes 1 year exclusive. And we all know that the game will be certainly better slightly lessl PGI-fucked 12 months later.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: patience on August 11, 2019, 09:35:24 AM
Last time I checked the Switch does everything the PS4 and the Xbox do but way worse. Except for portability of course. Meaning, if a game is also available on the Switch it runs and looks worse than the other consoles. And it's not even that cheaper cause you have to pay for a real controller immediately which is 70 dollars/euros. Unless that has changed, what's exactly to like about the Switch?

Load times.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 12, 2019, 07:33:08 AM
I might actually get into the Switch once Animal Crossing comes out. Breath of the Wild wasn't enough, somehow.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on August 12, 2019, 07:58:10 AM
Maybe cause it wasn’t a Zelda game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on August 12, 2019, 10:03:16 AM
It was and it wasn’t.  But BotW is a great game.  It just doesn’t scratch quite the same itch.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on August 12, 2019, 11:15:10 AM
Yup.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 12, 2019, 11:24:23 AM
If anything, I'd have guessed that was a plus.

Chances are that I'm just too deep into simplifying my life to bother with two consoles. Also the boy is constantly using it, except when he is playing Persona 5.

Another piece of good news could be that I think the Switch has killed the DS.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on August 12, 2019, 11:05:56 PM
It appears to have, yeah. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 13, 2019, 05:40:05 AM
It makes sense. My only gripe with the PSP / Vita is that it was too damn small. It was like owning a less chonk game gear.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 13, 2019, 05:56:03 AM
My main complaint with the Vita was that fucking back-touch-button shit, especially when it came into playing converted games such as Borderlands. Maybe if it fucking worked, I'd have been OK with it, but I just wasn't able to figure out where the hell I was supposed to tap or press. Fucking shit design. At least put some ridges on there and keep the button config restricted.

Also it always felt pervy to stroke the back of the unit.

But yes, a bit small and hard to grip.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on August 15, 2019, 08:00:59 AM
So this is uselessly interesting. There's a Portal game on W10/Xbox that allows you to change the xbox settings (not normally exposed to the user) by changing the W10 settings and then firing it up on the console. And of course DF benchmarked it for lulz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oZsL-iV8TE


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 16, 2019, 08:32:40 AM
That's kind of Portal-meta.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sir T on August 18, 2019, 11:20:06 AM
Quote
GameSpot
@GameSpot
Halo Infinite will have "AAA player investment experience" that includes microtransactions

http://bit.ly/2P16Rfg

I'm sure you will enjoy your Corporate Anal Contribution Experiance.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on August 19, 2019, 12:54:40 PM
Kerbal Space Program 2! I’m pretty happy right now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on August 19, 2019, 03:21:17 PM
Kerbal Space Program 2! I’m pretty happy right now.

Why?

So they can charge you full price for what should be an upgrade? So all the modders have to start over and learn an entirely new system? Are they really going to make it better, or just more gamey and "streamlined."

God I hate to use the term "cash grab," but, cash grab.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on August 19, 2019, 03:33:20 PM
I could repeat all of the info that is currently available to you online but see for yourself. It’s not a retread.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ezrast on August 19, 2019, 07:22:39 PM
I haven't been following KSP's development story - how has Take-Two been doing with it over the last couple years? Colonies could be amazing but I'm trying not to get too excited given that the first was a one-in-a-million success and the original developers seem to have dispersed entirely.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on August 20, 2019, 08:59:13 AM
I could repeat all of the info that is currently available to you online but see for yourself. It’s not a retread.

First of all, I shouldn't rain on your parade if you are excited about it. It is quite possible I'm just being grumpy and entrenched in the experience I'm entrenched in. Gods know KSP could use an engine and graphical overhaul.

But the thing is I thought Squad was doing a fairly good job of working those things in to the original KSP, and I'm not sure doing a complete startover is a great way forward. Will Squad give up the original? Will we have two KSPs running by different devs now? I notice that Squad is not even credited in the trailer at all, and I have no idea who owns the rights to what now, or how well they are playing together.

I should note that my current KSP experience is ridiculously heavily modded, and in fact I play exclusively in the Real Solar System, so that also colors my perception. It will be years before anything like RSS is modded into KSP2, if ever. But that's just me, and if you mainly play vanilla style then all the stuff they are promising with the trailer (that modders added into KSP years ago) would be enticing.

Especially if it actually, you know, ran right without constant tinkering (and at a higher framerate than about 12)...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on August 20, 2019, 09:21:46 AM
So...Witcher 3 on the Switch? Interesting. I don't think the downgrades hurt it much, and even an action rpg isn't quite as vulnerable to stutters/slowdowns as a shooter (imo). I find it amazing they can even pull this off, if it's playable, it's a very compelling reason to own the console.

I mean, that's a lot of pooping. Don't get the roids.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNcHI8mm9gI


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on August 20, 2019, 11:06:12 AM
I should note that my current KSP experience is ridiculously heavily modded, and in fact I play exclusively in the Real Solar System, so that also colors my perception. It will be years before anything like RSS is modded into KSP2, if ever. But that's just me, and if you mainly play vanilla style then all the stuff they are promising with the trailer (that modders added into KSP years ago) would be enticing.

I've put 400 hours into KSP and I've even been dabbling in writing mods for it. I tell you this because what I'm about to write might seem overly negative and petty so let me assure you that I deeply love that game.

The original squad team were absolutely horrible developers and absolutely horrible at community management. That KSP pre 1.3 even works semi-reliably is almost a miracle and it pretty much needed at least a few mods to make the experience acceptable. They worked at an absolutely glacial pace and usually favored marginally expanding the gameplay over fixing critical progression blocking bugs or improving the experience. They relied on the community fixing their stuff for them via mods and then treated them like shit and mostly ignored their advice. There was a time where the most recommended mod package was basically bugfix mods fixing a lot of the crap squad couldn't be bothered to.

People like Ferram and others spent countless hours of their own free time making mods, analyzing the game and recommending bug fixes or improvements and were mostly ignored.

It took them three years to get out of alpha and KSP wasn't 'finished' until version 1.3 in 2016 and it took a reboot of development and assigning it to a different developer to 'un-break' the console versions and actually make them usable. Yet even to this day the game has major bugs (landing gears, wheels, glitches when the physics kick in after loading like the rocket jumping into the air, flipping over or spontaneously exploding etc.) and it runs on an ancient version of Unity. It took until 1.0/1.1 for them to make a working 64 bit client and before that the game constantly crashed because the 32 bit client kept running out of memory all of the time as soon as you did something more complex. The most popular mod at the time was a texture compression and memory management mod to keep the client from constantly running out of virtual memory and crashing.

The performance is also pretty horrible. Do anything that is the tiniest bit complex or has a higher part count and the simulation drops into single digit frame per second territory even on 2019 systems.

They also allegedly had horrible working conditions, bad management and abysmal pay and in 2016 most of their core dev team quit and as a consequence their producers did as well. I believe that, given the fact that for most of the history of KSP their website and forums were run by volunteers who had no association with squad. They also managed to drive away a lot of their core fans and modders. None of the original devs are to my knowledge still on board and they haven't been since they sold the IP to Take 2/Private Division in 2017.

The current dev team is basically a dev team 2.0 and they have been working on slowly un-breaking the game and adding missing features that the community had been asking them for for years. They are hampered by a shitload of technical debt, horrible code and lack of any meaningful documentation unfortunately.

We're now at a point - after 8 years of development - that the base game is actually playable without mods and most of the major bugs have been fixed and that is largely due to the efforts of that dev team 2.0 who took over after the original production team had left. The fact that KSP survived and is popular 8 years later is because of a community that deeply loves this massively flawed game

I know that it is a bit unfair for me to dunk on them like this but as far as I'm concerned KSP 1 is not going away and is actively being developed and I'd buy KSP 2 even if all they did was simply providing me with 'KSP but working as intended and without the horrible performance, bugs and ideosyncracies'.

But the thing is I thought Squad was doing a fairly good job of working those things in to the original KSP, and I'm not sure doing a complete startover is a great way forward. Will Squad give up the original? Will we have two KSPs running by different devs now? I notice that Squad is not even credited in the trailer at all, and I have no idea who owns the rights to what now, or how well they are playing together.

Squad sold the rights to KSP and all of the IP to Private Division in 2017 under the provision that they could continue developing the original KSP. This means that squad have no connection to KSP 2 and are still actively developing the original KSP. So we'll have two different versions of KSP being developed by two different developers going forward.

I should note that my current KSP experience is ridiculously heavily modded, and in fact I play exclusively in the Real Solar System, so that also colors my perception. It will be years before anything like RSS is modded into KSP2, if ever.

RSS, RP0 and Kerbalism rely on a lot of mods that are no longer being actively maintained for various reasons so if you like real solar system you're likely stuck with 1.6 for the foreseeable future anyway.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on August 20, 2019, 11:35:02 AM
The Cycle is out /UNFORTUNATELY AS AN EPIC STORE EXCLUSIVE/ and it's a pretty fun game as I mentioned about a month ago. It's free and worth a try. PvEvP that makes sense. Slices of MMORPG lite questing in a contested area.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icxjNGxpNXQ


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Quinton on August 23, 2019, 10:35:21 AM
They also allegedly had horrible working conditions, bad management and abysmal pay and in 2016 most of their core dev team quit and as a consequence their producers did as well. I believe that, given the fact that for most of the history of KSP their website and forums were run by volunteers who had no association with squad. They also managed to drive away a lot of their core fans and modders. None of the original devs are to my knowledge still on board and they haven't been since they sold the IP to Take 2/Private Division in 2017.

The current dev team is basically a dev team 2.0 and they have been working on slowly un-breaking the game and adding missing features that the community had been asking them for for years. They are hampered by a shitload of technical debt, horrible code and lack of any meaningful documentation unfortunately.

We're now at a point - after 8 years of development - that the base game is actually playable without mods and most of the major bugs have been fixed and that is largely due to the efforts of that dev team 2.0 who took over after the original production team had left. The fact that KSP survived and is popular 8 years later is because of a community that deeply loves this massively flawed game

I know that it is a bit unfair for me to dunk on them like this but as far as I'm concerned KSP 1 is not going away and is actively being developed and I'd buy KSP 2 even if all they did was simply providing me with 'KSP but working as intended and without the horrible performance, bugs and ideosyncracies'.

Yeah, I am actually quite excited at the idea of a suitably skilled team (with folks with actual simulation background, etc) doing a ground-up rebuilt KSP.  They're reportedly overhauling the build system, etc (all those hated confusing component menus, etc, yuck!) and cleaning up and streamlining the UI/UX, and so on, as well as extending the game into interstellar and multiple star systems.  If they can do that and keep the general look and spirit of the original, more power to them and where do I send my money?

I feel bad for the original team -- who made a crappy bargain with the crappy management of the crappy company they worked for to try to pursue their dream project, which succeeded beyond all odds (and perhaps their ability to really manage) and they ended up with a raw deal -- but I am excited for a KSP that really works.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on August 24, 2019, 08:32:51 AM
The people who made Realm of the mad God, a shootery tiny cheap MMORPG, just released Steambirds Alliance. It's another shootery MMO, this time you are birds fighting in planes. Or bird planes, or steam birds, I am not sure. Anyway, it's a massively multiuplayer bullet hell game and I am enjoying it. If you like old shoot em up, take a look. Also, it is supposed to have a loot with random stats, but I was a bit underwhelmed by my loot after 30 minutes of playing, so not sure about that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAa2Ay3eVUQ


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 24, 2019, 11:47:07 AM
The genre is probably "bullet hell", as far as combat.

I was glad to see that the planes look like planes because https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7ctLdnzofs

Or something similar. Close enough.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on August 25, 2019, 10:35:01 AM
I should note that my current KSP experience is ridiculously heavily modded, and in fact I play exclusively in the Real Solar System, so that also colors my perception. It will be years before anything like RSS is modded into KSP2, if ever. But that's just me, and if you mainly play vanilla style then all the stuff they are promising with the trailer (that modders added into KSP years ago) would be enticing.

I've put 400 hours into KSP and I've even been dabbling in writing mods for it. I tell you this because what I'm about to write might seem overly negative and petty so let me assure you that I deeply love that game.

The original squad team were absolutely horrible developers and absolutely horrible at community management. That KSP pre 1.3 even works semi-reliably is almost a miracle and it pretty much needed at least a few mods to make the experience acceptable. They worked at an absolutely glacial pace and usually favored marginally expanding the gameplay over fixing critical progression blocking bugs or improving the experience. They relied on the community fixing their stuff for them via mods and then treated them like shit and mostly ignored their advice. There was a time where the most recommended mod package was basically bugfix mods fixing a lot of the crap squad couldn't be bothered to.

People like Ferram and others spent countless hours of their own free time making mods, analyzing the game and recommending bug fixes or improvements and were mostly ignored.

It took them three years to get out of alpha and KSP wasn't 'finished' until version 1.3 in 2016 and it took a reboot of development and assigning it to a different developer to 'un-break' the console versions and actually make them usable. Yet even to this day the game has major bugs (landing gears, wheels, glitches when the physics kick in after loading like the rocket jumping into the air, flipping over or spontaneously exploding etc.) and it runs on an ancient version of Unity. It took until 1.0/1.1 for them to make a working 64 bit client and before that the game constantly crashed because the 32 bit client kept running out of memory all of the time as soon as you did something more complex. The most popular mod at the time was a texture compression and memory management mod to keep the client from constantly running out of virtual memory and crashing.

The performance is also pretty horrible. Do anything that is the tiniest bit complex or has a higher part count and the simulation drops into single digit frame per second territory even on 2019 systems.

They also allegedly had horrible working conditions, bad management and abysmal pay and in 2016 most of their core dev team quit and as a consequence their producers did as well. I believe that, given the fact that for most of the history of KSP their website and forums were run by volunteers who had no association with squad. They also managed to drive away a lot of their core fans and modders. None of the original devs are to my knowledge still on board and they haven't been since they sold the IP to Take 2/Private Division in 2017.

The current dev team is basically a dev team 2.0 and they have been working on slowly un-breaking the game and adding missing features that the community had been asking them for for years. They are hampered by a shitload of technical debt, horrible code and lack of any meaningful documentation unfortunately.

We're now at a point - after 8 years of development - that the base game is actually playable without mods and most of the major bugs have been fixed and that is largely due to the efforts of that dev team 2.0 who took over after the original production team had left. The fact that KSP survived and is popular 8 years later is because of a community that deeply loves this massively flawed game

I know that it is a bit unfair for me to dunk on them like this but as far as I'm concerned KSP 1 is not going away and is actively being developed and I'd buy KSP 2 even if all they did was simply providing me with 'KSP but working as intended and without the horrible performance, bugs and ideosyncracies'.

But the thing is I thought Squad was doing a fairly good job of working those things in to the original KSP, and I'm not sure doing a complete startover is a great way forward. Will Squad give up the original? Will we have two KSPs running by different devs now? I notice that Squad is not even credited in the trailer at all, and I have no idea who owns the rights to what now, or how well they are playing together.

Squad sold the rights to KSP and all of the IP to Private Division in 2017 under the provision that they could continue developing the original KSP. This means that squad have no connection to KSP 2 and are still actively developing the original KSP. So we'll have two different versions of KSP being developed by two different developers going forward.

I should note that my current KSP experience is ridiculously heavily modded, and in fact I play exclusively in the Real Solar System, so that also colors my perception. It will be years before anything like RSS is modded into KSP2, if ever.

RSS, RP0 and Kerbalism rely on a lot of mods that are no longer being actively maintained for various reasons so if you like real solar system you're likely stuck with 1.6 for the foreseeable future anyway.


Well if we're going to compare neckbeards, I was a frequent contributor to the Orbiter forums and a minor contributor to the modding scene when one of the original Kerbal devs (also an Orbiter contributor) started a thread inviting Orbiter players to come and check out the new space game he and a few friends were working on. It was basically just a launch sim at that point -- and honestly I wasn't even all that impressed (I was *really* into the "realism" of Orbiter).

Flash forward a few years and, deserving or not, that little side project the Squad devs were working on has become *the* space sim/game just about everybody in the business is familiar with, professional or amateur. And while it would have been nice if the original team had been a little more capable of handling that success, we got what we got and it is what it is, and modded with RSS it has replaced Orbiter as my go to space sim with countless hours put in.

So what does any of that history have to do with KSP 2? Hell if I know -- you brought it up. At this point with that "Not Actual Gameplay" trailer we have no idea if it's KSP done right or just some limited knock off with prettier graphics. Will it actually be more supportive of the modding community? No idea. Will the modders move over to KSP 2? Probably, but it will take years to catch up. Are they treating their devs better? Couldn't tell you.

So yeah, cautiously pessimistic would be my stance here. Good luck to them though.

Oh, and due to my mod list my current game is not even 1.6, but 1.4.5, and likely to stay that way for a while.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on August 26, 2019, 05:05:50 AM
My issue is that Squad was an absolutely horrible developer/publisher and managed the project in such a way that basically all of the original development team up and left. KSP succeeded and flourished despite them not because of them. It also largely succeeded because of the passion and love the players had for that game. If it hadn't been for the active modding community and their tireless engagement we wouldn't even have a whole lot of things in the base game that we now take for granted. We'd still be stuck with the old aero and re-entry heating models for example (soup atmosphere) and there'd be no working 64 Bit client which is basically a base requirement for a mod package like real solar system/realistic progression/Kerbalism to even even work.

Dev team 2.0 has already stated that they don't intend to fix some of the remaining bugs because fixing those bugs would require a partial/whole rewrite of the client and this would simply be too much work with too much risk/too little financial gain and is also basically impossible due to the code base and lack of existing documentation.

Flash forward a few years and, deserving or not, that little side project the Squad devs were working on has become *the* space sim/game just about everybody in the business is familiar with, professional or amateur. And while it would have been nice if the original team had been a little more capable of handling that success, we got what we got and it is what it is, and modded with RSS it has replaced Orbiter as my go to space sim with countless hours put in.

So what does any of that history have to do with KSP 2? Hell if I know -- you brought it up. At this point with that "Not Actual Gameplay" trailer we have no idea if it's KSP done right or just some limited knock off with prettier graphics. Will it actually be more supportive of the modding community? No idea. Will the modders move over to KSP 2? Probably, but it will take years to catch up. Are they treating their devs better? Couldn't tell you.

I'm more optimistic than you. The pre-alpha gameplay looks promising, the developer has more experience and they've at least stated that it will come with more extensive mod support etc. Only the final game will tell though.

What has the history got to do with it? Well most of the current issues the game still has is technical debt which stems from how Squad managed the project (hire cheap novice developers and manage them poorly until they grow a backbone and quit) and fixing them would require an extensive rewrite of the existing code base, something the remaining dev team neither has the time, resources or money for.

My hope is that a KSP 2, developed and managed by a more competent developer/publisher team could both fix those shortcomings and maybe reinvigorate the modding community. Because right now a lot of the existing mods for KSP have been abandoned by their original developers for different reasosn, lack of support by and the problematic relationship between modders and Squad being a major one though. Simply look at the massive list of orphaned mods a guy like linuxgurugamer has taken over or how annoyingly difficult it has become to even run RSS and how many issues you still can run into.

My hope would be that we get an updated core game with an engine that can handle a significantly higher part count without crawling at a glacial 1 -2 fps, rockets flopping around like crazy or spontaneously exploding, working wheels and landing gear etc. and a modding interface that still lets people do stuff like RSS.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on August 27, 2019, 09:41:55 AM
One can hope that 2 will be a good reboot. Certainly more polished. We'll see.

But on the subject of modders, yeah well every game/sim I have ever been involved with that had mods had the same modder problems. Kerbal, Orbiter, Minecraft, you name it -- modders come and go. They go to school, they leave school and get real jobs, they get families, they lose families, they get mad at the game, they get mad at the fans. Modding is unpaid work that quickly becomes a second job (although some of the "lucky" ones do manage to parlay their modding experience into actual jobs), and sooner or later that mod goes unsupported. Maybe someone will pick it up (thanks linuxgurugamer!) or maybe they won't. Maybe the user himself can make his own patches to keep it alive (thanks me!), or maybe he'll just learn to live without it.

But all the above is why I pick a version of a game/sim that has a good set of functional mods and just freeze it right there. Turn off all updates and just enjoy the run without worrying about compatibility for a while.

Then of course there will be an incompatible update of the underlying operating system, and we're back to square one again...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Count Nerfedalot on August 27, 2019, 07:01:34 PM
Software development of any kind is a tough industry, and games is even worse. Nobody is willing to pay what it actually costs to develop good software, not the owners, not the suits, not the vc's, maybe not even NASA anymore, and most especially not the customers like you or me.

Yet there's so much money sloshing around, fortunes to be made (and lost!), that we get all the sleazebags trying to squeeze an extra buck for themselves, and that comes out of the customers' pockets, the developers' hides, and the vcs' bank accounts.  And we get (and buy) crap software because that's all there is.

It's a miracle any good games get made at all, yet every once in awhile a small team manages to make something truly wonderful. Sadly, they usually don't get to profit from it. Minecraft being the exception that proves the rule.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on August 28, 2019, 09:54:10 PM
I sent my Switch joy-cons into Nintendo due to the drifting problem on the left one. I had the system for a bit more than two years now and they completely replaced both with new controllers. No charge even though it was out of warranty.

The new ones feel pretty good and hug the system much better than the original ones.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 30, 2019, 06:31:38 AM
That news is actually somewhat useful.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on August 30, 2019, 07:59:12 AM
My X-Box Elite Controller recently got stick drift on the left analog stick. Didn't know that they use the same analog sticks as on the basic XBone controllers (which get this all of the time). Quite a bit annoyed now and on the lookout for tips how to repair this since MS apparently doesn't offer a replacement program like NIntendo.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on August 30, 2019, 08:15:07 AM
That news is actually somewhat useful.

I bought in May 2017 so it was definitely out of warranty. Also, the repair notes stated they couldn't reproduce the reported error but they still replaced anyways.

It should be noted that a class action was filed against Nintendo for the joy con repairs and two days later they put out a small announcement saying they would essentially replace them at no charge. They had to get actively called out on their bullshit before they decided to own it. I'm thinking new President Bowser is like "wtf, Reggie? This is what I walk into?"


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on August 30, 2019, 08:25:41 AM
Not Reggie's fault -- the parent company is the one that's been mum on this whole issue. Nintendo of America on its own has quietly, unofficially*, started replacing them for free.

* There's been no official announcement from any Nintendo, news leaked of an internal memo with the new Nintendo of America policy


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on August 31, 2019, 04:58:59 AM
Since I was duly elected the Digital Gloomhaven monitor, there's a further patch and we now have a combat monitor and a lot more items and cards.

And it's now really quite fun if you like that kind of thing.

Still a limited sandbox to play in, but I can really see the shape of a great game in there.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on August 31, 2019, 06:52:06 AM
First of all, I did not receive the patch. Weird.

Second, yes it's good. I like it, like the art style and enjoy the crawl but I can see it becoming incredibly dull and tedious without friends. Coop can't come soon enough.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 31, 2019, 07:43:20 AM
Root can't come soon enough.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on August 31, 2019, 08:08:34 AM
Root? Oh that Armello spoof?

Kidding. I didn't know they were making a digital Root. Very happy about it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 31, 2019, 08:21:39 AM
Wait, is Armello like Root? I have it but never booted it up.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 31, 2019, 12:28:38 PM
Root is a terrible name to google without context. What am I looking for?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on August 31, 2019, 05:44:46 PM
Wait, is Armello like Root? I have it but never booted it up.

No, no, it's not like Root. The theme and art are vaguely similar and when I first saw Root I thought it was an Armello ripoff, but they are not similar at all. Armello is cute but that's it.

And Yeg, this is Root. https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/237182/root


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on September 04, 2019, 01:24:31 AM
This game's Kickstarter just begun. The demo is available on Steam and I strongly suggest you try it out. Solasta, Crown of the Magister.

It's an isometric RPG made with D&D rules and Dragon Age and XCom vibes. I like the UI for some reason. Worth taking two looks.

Here's some gameplay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aUMt5xemeI


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on September 06, 2019, 03:02:53 AM
Here's Greedfall launch trailer. Out in a couple of days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS8-Qze0QGU&feature=em-uploademail


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on September 06, 2019, 06:48:14 AM
I'll play anything that gives me a tricorn.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on September 06, 2019, 07:01:23 AM
So since my transition into married life, my gaming time was essentially zero. Now it's likely going to go up to 1-2 times a week, and probably for an hour or two at most during those times.

For those of you in similar boats, are there games you're playing currently on Steam or the like that you feel like work well for a limited times per week? Like can you accomplish anything in an hour?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on September 06, 2019, 07:33:59 AM
Path of Exile. Easy to play in chunks. Or you could choose a different ARPG to scratch that itch.

You could always play a run based rogue-lite. Dead Cells, Into the Breach, FTL, etc. Or you could play something like Darkest Dungeon if you want something that's a bit more contiguous.

A survival / base builder might be decent just to fart around in: Subnautica, The Forrest, Minecraft, The Long Dark, Don't Starve, etc.

Just stay away from MMOs. You never have enough time. Story heavy games will also feel really disjointed.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on September 06, 2019, 08:07:52 AM
Anything that has an aggressive autosave is great. Turn-based games are hard to find, but work well as long as they don't have any memory leaks and can stay paused or wait on you for hours. A dedicated game machine is a great boon as well, since sometimes the TV or computer are commandeered for RL things.

Things that pause (for hours) are actually all you really need at a basic level. The best ones allow you to pause cutscenes, because that's exactly when someone finds a spider in the bathtub.

My list of games that I play are probably not compatible with you, but here are some few titles. There are 914 titles in my PSN library so maybe take a whack at naming some things so we can give specific advice.

Red Dead State Fair Workers does well for this lifestyle. Good luck finishing it, though.

All of the recent Assassin's Creed games work well here.

Path of Exile does not pause, however being online-only means that I can just terminate the game and nothing is lost. The instances will remain in place for 8-15 minutes (maybe longer) so sometimes I can still pick up loot that I didn't get before The Disconnect. It is, however, Path of Exile.

Mordheim (Warhammer) works great since it is already turn-based and so far will stay alive for a long time. As do things with "squares", like Disgaea. Mordheim has a Save-and-Quit that can be used during missions, thank Sigmar.

Spider-Man has been able to stay paused for a long while, and I believe cutscene pausing works there as well.

Sinking City does well here. The autosave is a bit TOO aggressive for normal gameplay, IMO, but you won't lose progress and it has a manual save-anywhere.

Bloodstained works well for this.

No Man's Sky is actually terrible here since you can't save in most places. You can carry around a save point and use it when needed. I know, wtf.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on September 06, 2019, 08:40:36 AM
Try Deep Sky Derelicts (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbeXmfH8Lm0). It's some Darkest Dungeon in space made in Finland with deckbuilding, random loot, tons of style and a very cool soundtrack. It's 0.93 cents right now as part of the lower tier Humbe Bundle RPG. If you don't like it, I'll give you the 0.93 cents back.

EDIT TO ADD: You can save anytime anywhere.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 06, 2019, 08:43:51 AM
Get a Switch.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on September 06, 2019, 09:06:13 AM
Try Deep Sky Derelicts (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbeXmfH8Lm0). It's some Darkest Dungeon in space made in Finland with deckbuilding, random loot, tons of style and a very cool soundtrack. It's 0.93 cents right now as part of the lower tier Humbe Bundle RPG. If you don't like it, I'll give you the 0.93 cents back.

EDIT TO ADD: You can save anytime anywhere.

Haha I'll give anything a whirl for 93 cents.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on September 06, 2019, 09:07:46 AM
Path of Exile. Easy to play in chunks. Or you could choose a different ARPG to scratch that itch.


I've never done PoE, but saw it was F2P so I can certainly give it a whirl on the laptop. Thanks!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on September 06, 2019, 09:08:39 AM
Anything that has an aggressive autosave is great. Turn-based games are hard to find, but work well as long as they don't have any memory leaks and can stay paused or wait on you for hours. A dedicated game machine is a great boon as well, since sometimes the TV or computer are commandeered for RL things.


Yeah you've basically nailed the issue. Oh shit, there's something with the front door, need to pause for 15 minutes.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Draegan on September 06, 2019, 10:57:42 AM
POE is about to keep off their new league today. Good time to start. Post in the POE thread for help.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on September 06, 2019, 12:09:50 PM
So since my transition into married life, my gaming time was essentially zero. Now it's likely going to go up to 1-2 times a week, and probably for an hour or two at most during those times.

For those of you in similar boats, are there games you're playing currently on Steam or the like that you feel like work well for a limited times per week? Like can you accomplish anything in an hour?
Basically everything I play. I don't get into pretty much anything that doesn't break down into chunks and have a good save function. The PS4 has helped a lot with that, being able to pause anything and walk away immediately is perfect.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on September 06, 2019, 04:24:02 PM
Get a Switch.

This. Everything can be paused just by pressing the home or power button, even cutscenes. Plus you can play it as a handheld on the couch while still hanging with the family; it's got a hell of a library, and the new models that just dropped have significantly longer battery life while retaining the dockability.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on September 07, 2019, 03:10:39 PM
you can play it as a handheld on the couch

Toilet.

while still hanging with the family

Not for "normal" people.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on September 17, 2019, 10:24:19 AM
Trails of Cold Steel III free demo out now on Playstation Network.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on September 19, 2019, 10:46:15 PM
Poop, I see it is coming for PS4 in October, but I am assuming for now that that's and exclusive?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 19, 2019, 11:42:46 PM
Yup.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on September 20, 2019, 02:00:34 AM
Well fuck my eyesocket.  Clearly they know how to port this game, the first in the series is perfect.  I assume it will come eventually.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on September 27, 2019, 05:02:38 PM
Code Vein is finally out. It's Anime Dark Souls, with vampires and your usual (and my beloved) future devastated Tokyo. It doesn't sound too hot and, honestly, it is not too hot. But it is also such an unapologetic attempt at cloning everything D*Souls (after all, it's still bandai Namco) that it manages to capture a few things decently right.

The bottom line is that if you love the kind of long, slow, dangerous crawl that defines the Souls games, coupled with their unique blend of combat, this game gets it close enough, not as good as From Software, but better than any other apocryphal attempt.
If you are looking for their atmosphere though, you won't find it here. There's depression and death, sure, but there's also anime prettiness and lots of cutscenes.

I tend to despise the Souls clones, but this at least retains the Japan-ness (Japanity?) of the original and the usual challenging progression is sucking me in.

There are many things that I wish they could clone better, but overall I definitely recommend it.

Here's a trailer to provide context: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URLdBq3_cHM


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sir T on September 27, 2019, 06:39:50 PM
Cant see Vampire sparkle, so not interested.  :pedobear:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 08, 2019, 11:21:30 AM
https://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/61153/Red-Dead-Redemption-2-Coming-to-PC-November-5th

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Today, we're proud to announce that Red Dead Redemption 2 is coming to PC on November 5th, with special bonuses available to players who pre-purchase through the Rockstar Games Launcher starting October 9th.
:oh_i_see:

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Red Dead Redemption 2 for PC will also be available to pre-order at the Epic Games store, Greenman Gaming, the Humble Store, GameStop and additional digital retailers starting October 23rd with a pre-order bonus of 25 Gold Bars for Red Dead Online. Red Dead Redemption 2 for PC will also be available to purchase on Steam this December.

Red Dead Redemption 2 is currently available on PlayStation 4 and Xbox One systems and will also be available this November as a launch title for Google Stadia.


At least Humble, GMG, and Steam will be options. Stadia? Interesting.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on October 08, 2019, 11:40:59 AM
The game plays so slowly that I can see the Stadia being a good platform for it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on October 08, 2019, 11:58:42 AM
I've waited this long, I can wait another month to have it on Steam.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 08, 2019, 12:13:09 PM
I've waited this long, I can wait another month to have it on Steam.
I don't think the month delay will be as big a deterrent as they may think, given the obvious ploy.

I actually may skip it on PC, since I think I'm probably better off playing it on the PS4 Pro vs my ancient pc with a 970, even at 1080p. GTA V struggles on it (though it looks night and day better on pc, obv).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on October 08, 2019, 12:35:32 PM
I don't give a crap about another launcher, especially since I'll be deleting Blizzard's off my PC. However, it will be really easy to wait given that The Outer Worlds and Death Stranding are releasing Oct 25 and Nov 8 respectively. I'll be getting both of those unless they're reviewed rather unfavorably. Obsidian style RPG and Kojima jank are two of my favorite game categories.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on October 08, 2019, 12:46:27 PM
Outer Worlds is in two weeks? FUCK!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rattran on October 08, 2019, 05:10:12 PM
When does Outer Worlds release on Steam? Sometime in 2020?

I'll get it when I don't have to give epic money for their shenanigans.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on October 08, 2019, 10:45:59 PM
Oh snap, totally forgot Outer Worlds was coming soon.  NOW WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Reg on October 09, 2019, 06:06:53 AM
I downloaded the Epic games launcher so I can play the PC version at release. I don't have any religious objections to running more than one launcher. Vast majority of my games are on Steam but a few are on Origin and GOG.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 09, 2019, 07:35:44 AM
When does Outer Worlds release on Steam? Sometime in 2020?

I'll get it when I don't have to give epic money for their shenanigans.
From the steam:

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The Outer Worlds will be available on Steam one year after launch on other exclusive digital PC platforms.

So yeah.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 09, 2019, 08:20:36 AM
Oh snap, totally forgot Outer Worlds was coming soon.  NOW WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO.

outer worlds comes out near the tail end of 2020


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 09, 2019, 10:55:47 AM
Even if you get it earlier, waiting for patches is probably a great idea.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Reg on October 09, 2019, 12:44:57 PM
My bet is most of you crumble and give into the Power of the Epic Launcher long before it's released on Steam.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 09, 2019, 12:51:38 PM
why

have other new games stopped coming out completely?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on October 09, 2019, 01:38:45 PM
You haven't seen my backlog.

Also, Terraria 1.4 is coming soon.  As well as a new Stardew patch.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on October 09, 2019, 01:42:48 PM
My bet is most of you crumble and give into the Power of the Epic Launcher long before it's released on Steam.  :why_so_serious:

I'm perfectly ok with buying stuff off the Epic store. I would have bought Borderlands 3 but ended up not wanting to pay $60 for a game that doesn't sound particularly better than the now seven year old Borderlands 2.

That said, I'll wait and see what the early impressions of Outer Worlds are.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Reg on October 09, 2019, 01:58:25 PM
Yea I'll probably do the same unless the preorder has some good swag coming with it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on October 09, 2019, 02:01:29 PM
I will crumble and buy something on console like I did for BL3 after all my bitching about it. But Epic launcher won’t ever see my computer, period.

I’m about three steps from moving into a cabin in the wilds anyways, so maybe I don’t need games of the future.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on October 09, 2019, 02:43:23 PM
why

have other new games stopped coming out completely?

I was just thinking this.  I have cash to spend and I'm bored, but everything out right now is just shit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on October 09, 2019, 05:14:25 PM
When does Outer Worlds release on Steam? Sometime in 2020?

I'll get it when I don't have to give epic money for their shenanigans.

Outer Worlds is also supposed to drop day and date on the Windows Store (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/the-outer-worlds/9mwd2z8l1fbq?activetab=pivot:overviewtab), so that's going to be the path I take.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 09, 2019, 07:01:07 PM
why

have other new games stopped coming out completely?

I was just thinking this.  I have cash to spend and I'm bored, but everything out right now is just shit.

what I meant was I have plenty of shit to play that isn't Outer Worlds, so epic can screw all the way off


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 09, 2019, 07:01:49 PM
When does Outer Worlds release on Steam? Sometime in 2020?

I'll get it when I don't have to give epic money for their shenanigans.

Outer Worlds is also supposed to drop day and date on the Windows Store (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/the-outer-worlds/9mwd2z8l1fbq?activetab=pivot:overviewtab), so that's going to be the path I take.

Oh shit, it's included with the Xbox Games Pass. Lol.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on October 09, 2019, 11:42:59 PM
Outer Worlds is also supposed to drop day and date on the Windows Store (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/the-outer-worlds/9mwd2z8l1fbq?activetab=pivot:overviewtab), so that's going to be the path I take.

If Windows store is an option I'd recommend you buy it anywhere else instead, even if your next best option is buying it from a psychotic hobo living under an underpass in the most crime infested part of your town. The experience will be less horrible and more pleasant than buying it on the Windows store.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on October 10, 2019, 02:32:43 AM
If it's part of the Xbox for PC pass on day 1 it's a no brainer. If you are already using the application it's 100% hassle free, and it's basically $5. That is insnae. To me this Windows pass thing keeps being too good to be true (and it is true).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on October 10, 2019, 04:12:43 AM
So long every encounter I had with the Microsoft PC store was a total disaster and I've heard to many personal accounts by people who describe similar experiences.
Including confusing error messages, games that wouldn't download, games that wouldn't start and complete re-installation of both store and games.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Father mike on October 10, 2019, 06:42:07 AM
The xbox-on-windows pass is $1 for the first month right now.

Chance to play all my "enh, maybe someday in a Steam Sale" games for a buck?

Hells yeah.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on October 10, 2019, 09:15:24 AM
How does the Xbox pass handle games with DLC though? Like if you play Stellaris, are you restricted to just the vanilla game or do you have to pay for each separate DLC?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Father mike on October 10, 2019, 09:48:17 AM
It's what you said: restricted to vanilla unless you buy the DLC.  And the games don't stay on xbox-pass forever.  They rotate in and out like Netflix movies.  The FAQ states that if you buy DLC for a pass game, you will be informed a month before it leaves pass, and have the opportunity to buy a full licence at 20% off.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 10, 2019, 01:42:03 PM
Speaking of not needing new games, 7 Days to Die has released Alpha 18 in the experimental branch. I've found it's always worth another playthrough when a new Alpha drops, as gameplay tends to change quite a bit and they add enough to keep it interesting for a while.

https://7daystodie.com/a18-official-release-notes/

So I'll be adding that into my rotation with Madden and Rocksmith and there ya go. If only a new ambitious single player minecraft mod could drop in a few more months...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on October 10, 2019, 02:17:09 PM
Any chance the 7 Days to Die guys are close to release on this thing? I haven't played since I think A12 just waiting on the release.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on October 10, 2019, 02:25:00 PM
Surviving Mars is free at the moment.  I've unleashed some drones on some innocent rock.

It's interesting in a 'oh, this was free' kind of way.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on October 10, 2019, 03:41:00 PM
Really free or a short window to play it free?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on October 10, 2019, 04:01:50 PM
Full free. It's the one (or two) free game a week of the Epic Store.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Count Nerfedalot on October 10, 2019, 05:35:55 PM
remind me again why epic is the devil incarnate?

Steam has just pulled it's typical bullshit autoupdate breaking my ARK client so it now cannot see the ARK server it connect to this morning, which is RUNNING ON THE SAME GODDAMN MACHINE, with ZERO indication that the problem is a version mismatch, it's just fucking invisible to me. And I cannot find any way to make it stop doing that. So how the fuck is Epic worse?

Granted the ARK developers are total ignorant fucktards, but the Steam folks seem like slightly more clever but deliberately malicious greedy bastards and I'm not seeing how Steam comes off as robot jezus here while Epic, who supposedly is letting the developers have a bit more of the pie, is lambasted as Evil Inc. 

Please clue me in?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on October 10, 2019, 05:42:23 PM
You should be able to turn off auto-updates.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on October 10, 2019, 07:48:57 PM
The Epic Store is partly-owned by Tencent, which is mostly owned by the evil bastards Chinese government. Also, the Epic Store has been bribing developers to have store exclusives that include games people actually want to play. Some people don't want to give the Chinese government anymore money than we have to, even indirectly, and some of us hate the fucking idea of store exclusive games because fuck you, I want to play the way I want.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: patience on October 10, 2019, 08:59:04 PM
The Epic Store is partly-owned by Tencent, which is mostly owned by the evil bastards Chinese government. Also, the Epic Store has been bribing developers to have store exclusives that include games people actually want to play. Some people don't want to give the Chinese government anymore money than we have to, even indirectly, and some of us hate the fucking idea of store exclusive games because fuck you, I want to play the way I want.

Sweeny posted a few fuck off China posts. We'll see how he holds up to direct pressure but companies meekly bowed for comments less critical than his so it isn't fair to say Epic is bowing to China.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on October 10, 2019, 09:41:30 PM
The Epic Store is partly-owned by Tencent, which is mostly owned by the evil bastards Chinese government. Also, the Epic Store has been bribing developers to have store exclusives that include games people actually want to play. Some people don't want to give the Chinese government anymore money than we have to, even indirectly, and some of us hate the fucking idea of store exclusive games because fuck you, I want to play the way I want.

Tencent has their hands in a lot stuff so good luck trying to avoid them. (https://www.pcgamer.com/every-game-company-that-tencent-has-invested-in/) I guess it's a good thing that most people here burned out on Conan Exiles already since Tencent just bought a chunk of Funcom.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 11, 2019, 06:44:26 AM
Meanwhile, I've learned to stop worrying and order (some) things from Alibaba.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 11, 2019, 06:50:44 AM
Any chance the 7 Days to Die guys are close to release on this thing? I haven't played since I think A12 just waiting on the release.
You've missed some fun stuff that ended up not being release worthy but was fun af! Something about the game just clicks with me.

But yeah, I actually thought this might be labeled the RC. They brought on a bunch of folks a couple alphas ago to lock a lot of things down and clean it up for a modern release.

Can they stop tinkering and adding stuff? I don't care, honestly.  :why_so_serious: I'm closing in on 500 hours, so I'm already good.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on October 11, 2019, 08:57:51 AM
The Epic Store is partly-owned by Tencent, which is mostly owned by the evil bastards Chinese government. Also, the Epic Store has been bribing developers to have store exclusives that include games people actually want to play. Some people don't want to give the Chinese government anymore money than we have to, even indirectly, and some of us hate the fucking idea of store exclusive games because fuck you, I want to play the way I want.

Tencent has their hands in a lot stuff so good luck trying to avoid them. (https://www.pcgamer.com/every-game-company-that-tencent-has-invested-in/) I guess it's a good thing that most people here burned out on Conan Exiles already since Tencent just bought a chunk of Funcom.

Luckily for me, since I quit both LOL and Conan Exiles, none of the rest of the shit on that list has even remotely been a factor other than Ubisoft (5%) and Paradox Interactive (5%). Most of Ubisoft's games are the same shit regurgitated these days, but I do play a lot of Paradox games. 5% isn't too bad and likely doesn't have much effect on the company. Discord is the only other thing on that list that I use and there's just not a way to not use that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on October 11, 2019, 09:12:22 AM
The Epic Store is partly-owned by Tencent, which is mostly owned by the evil bastards Chinese government. Also, the Epic Store has been bribing developers to have store exclusives that include games people actually want to play. Some people don't want to give the Chinese government anymore money than we have to, even indirectly, and some of us hate the fucking idea of store exclusive games because fuck you, I want to play the way I want.

I play PoE a lot so I'm already fucked for this.  So I really don't mind robbing them of free games.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on October 11, 2019, 09:34:19 AM
Any chance the 7 Days to Die guys are close to release on this thing? I haven't played since I think A12 just waiting on the release.
You've missed some fun stuff that ended up not being release worthy but was fun af! Something about the game just clicks with me.

But yeah, I actually thought this might be labeled the RC. They brought on a bunch of folks a couple alphas ago to lock a lot of things down and clean it up for a modern release.

Can they stop tinkering and adding stuff? I don't care, honestly.  :why_so_serious: I'm closing in on 500 hours, so I'm already good.

Looks like Alpha 18 might be swinging the pendulum back over more to my preferred playstyle, so I'll drop back in and log some more hours.

However, this gem:

"In A18 we added a Physics Master system that lets the player’s computer that threw the item spawn and run the item’s physics, so you get the same lag free throwing as a single player game and they will accurately hit other players."

Really?? Cue the aimbots!!!

Edited to add: Dang, it's still in the experimental branch. And I was getting all amped to play again, but now I'm going to wait.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 11, 2019, 11:25:01 AM
I don't play multiplayer, so no big deal for me  :grin:

It looks like they've been doing more data mining this time around to see how people are actually playing...but I feel that's skewed by design choices of each Alpha. For example, in A17 I was almost purely hunter/scavv, just mowing through POIs and running quests. But that's the first time I played that way that heavily, because they skewed the Alpha that way (the zed pathfinding and block dmg) and the amount of new POIs to check out.

We'll see, I've found a ton of fun in each Alpha by just going with whatever works and not getting too caught up in trying to do any specific thing.

I would normally wait for the non-experimental release of A18...but I'm on vacation in a couple hours, so....zombie bashin' time. I've wanted to mess with portable turrets since they teased them! And AoE melee? *swoon*


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rattran on October 11, 2019, 03:44:40 PM
I find melee to be more frustrating now, incoming hits don't sync with attack animations as well, and the 'enrage' thing is just annoying.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on October 11, 2019, 04:10:49 PM
The Epic Store is partly-owned by Tencent, which is mostly owned by the evil bastards Chinese government. Also, the Epic Store has been bribing developers to have store exclusives that include games people actually want to play. Some people don't want to give the Chinese government anymore money than we have to, even indirectly, and some of us hate the fucking idea of store exclusive games because fuck you, I want to play the way I want.

I play PoE a lot so I'm already fucked for this.  So I really don't mind robbing them of free games.

You don't need the Epic Store for that. :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Count Nerfedalot on October 11, 2019, 05:02:39 PM
Um, bribing developers to make platform exclusive games? You mean like Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo would never ever do?   :oh_i_see:

I get the China government hate. Anything with the PLA's greedy and implacably evil fingers in it is doubly bad, which is almost everything these days. If you really want to lie awake at night, ponder the implications of Chinese ownership of most of the mid-tier food producers in America now (and everywhere else I'm betting?).

And it's much more logical to hate on Apple for bowing to Chinese pressure over Hong Kong, or Google for selling them all sorts of evil surveillance tools, or Boeing for allowing transfers of "commercial" aircraft technology in exchange for being able to sell in the Chinese market (as if military aircraft have different laws of physics), or WalMart for abandoning their made in America roots, or just on pretty much everyone in the world including your neighbors, family, and likely yourself, for being short-sighted, selfish, idiots who are willing to turn a blind eye to pretty much anything including slavery and genocide in exchange for getting their microwaves and jeans for a few bucks less.

But back to games, so honestly, if it takes a Chinese-owned company to break the grip of the current set of vampire "service platforms", more power to them. Right up until they end up becoming the same thing of course, but then what's the difference?  Meanwhile, GoG is still my favorite, but until Epic actually screws ME, I'm going to go with the selfish short-sighted massive majority and say if they give me games I like and screw the developers less than the others then they can have my money.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Count Nerfedalot on October 11, 2019, 05:05:46 PM
You should be able to turn off auto-updates.


I thought so, I keep hearing about "offline mode", but I can't find it. My options for ARK under the Properties/Updates tab are "Always keep this game up to date", "Only update this game when I launch it" and "High-Priority - Always auto-update this game before others".

Can you point me towards where I might find the "don't touch my damn game until I ask you to" option?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on October 11, 2019, 05:42:04 PM
Apparently there isn't. But there is a workaround(s):

https://steamcommunity.com/app/346110/discussions/0/521643320352527763/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on October 11, 2019, 07:55:24 PM
IIRC Skyrim has (had?) an option to not update unless I tell it to; I don't know if that's something that varies game by game, or just a featire no longer supported by Steam.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on October 11, 2019, 08:45:52 PM
They nerfed that option. There used to be an option to disable updates completely for a game (I had it set for one of my games).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on October 11, 2019, 11:13:37 PM
Um, bribing developers to make platform exclusive games? You mean like Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo would never ever do?   :oh_i_see:

It's one thing if you do it for your walled-garden console - I don't like it but it's a practice that has become less frequent with each console generation. PC games should be storefront agnostic.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on October 12, 2019, 09:17:36 AM
The problem with that analogy is that another storefront doesn’t cost you anything.  Well, your data may be bought and sold, but I think we are well beyond taking issue with that at this point.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on October 12, 2019, 09:20:30 AM
They nerfed that option. There used to be an option to disable updates completely for a game (I had it set for one of my games).

I see that now. Maybe Skyrim gets around it by launching with a 3rd party client (like NMM).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on October 12, 2019, 09:42:15 AM
A number of games (Kerbal, Stellaris come to mind) you can opt in for "beta" access, which includes earlier versions of the game. Choose one of those and of course they do not update ever.

This would seem to be an option that the specific game devs choose to implement however, and not something that every game does. For instance, since for example something like Conan Exiles is a multiplayer game I don't think it's that easy to freeze updates on Steam.

But to answer the original question I can choose offline mode with one of the upper left menu dropdowns on PC -- or just try to run Steam with no internet connection and it asks if I want to go into offline mode.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on October 12, 2019, 09:48:51 AM
The problem with that analogy is that another storefront doesn’t cost you anything.  Well, your data may be bought and sold, but I think we are well beyond taking issue with that at this point.

It costs me time and effort that I frankly do not have the patience to worry about. I have games on GOG, Ubisoft's launcher and EA's Origin and I have to remind myself that they are there because I launch my shit through Steam.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on October 12, 2019, 09:53:27 AM
I get it, and at least mostly agree.  But if I really want to play something, I won’t stress over it too much.  That said, no way I will use it beyond those one-offs.  I think GOG is the only other installer I have on my machine besides Steam.  And, well, Oculus for a few VR things.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Wasted on October 13, 2019, 12:03:01 AM
I want my digital PC stores competing for my custom through service and price, not through backroom deals that do nothing for me.

The publisher only stores are one thing, but I mainly avoid them anyway as EA and Ubisoft don't make games I give two shits about.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 14, 2019, 07:48:52 PM
I find melee to be more frustrating now, incoming hits don't sync with attack animations as well, and the 'enrage' thing is just annoying.
Something is definitely up with mob attack animations and speed. The usual rhythm is way off, with mobs almost always landing a freebie if you don't back out before trying to hit. Weirdness.

Don't know if it's just the new newb bow, but aiming there seems a bit off as well. Normally I can get a feel if I'm high or low, but I'm getting none of that in A18. More weirdness.

Also, not sure if it's the unstable build or whatnot, but I had to pull textures back to medium. I've always run the game at Ultra. I can leave it all cranked but textures turn it into a slideshow.

Also also, I'm not sure how viable or interesting the game is for single players, since you're forced to make some really tough choices. I bumped a guy up to level 175 or so and had about 2/3 or the skills I had in A17...and the giveselfxp is capped, so the last couple levels took dozens of commands just to gain a level (and the command is something like a billion xp). So not only will you never get a well-rounded character for single player, your gamestage is going to be INSANE by the time you get there.

I like the new progression for the most part, just needs to be brought back a lot at the top end of the curve. They're clearly in multiplayer mode lately (forcing role choices).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 14, 2019, 09:10:34 PM
I find melee to be more frustrating now, incoming hits don't sync with attack animations as well, and the 'enrage' thing is just annoying.

is this PoE?

i feel like that was always the case


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on October 15, 2019, 05:34:33 AM
No, 7 Days to Die.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 15, 2019, 07:35:11 AM
Ah.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rattran on October 15, 2019, 01:17:57 PM
Melee got massively overhauled in PoE, it's less floaty.
7DtD went the other way.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on October 24, 2019, 01:54:42 AM
In the days of Disco Elysium everything is a bit less exciting but FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKYEAHHHH!

(Persona 5 new something)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJjuJDoZOoY&feature=em-uploademail


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on October 24, 2019, 07:35:55 AM
Goddamnit Atlus, JUST TAKE MY MONEY.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on October 24, 2019, 08:33:52 AM
There are ZERO chances this game won't be absolutely shit and unfun to play when it'll be released, but I want to support these people and a game that in a parallel dimension I'd like to play while sitting next to the fireplace of my cabin in the woods while the cats sleep by the window and it's raining outside.

The Book of Travels is a 2D MMORPG about traveling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzwZKQo0Y5s


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on October 24, 2019, 08:41:49 AM
I'm not sure you'd be allowed to play that game without wearing a beret.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on October 24, 2019, 08:45:33 AM
I can certainly procure one by the time it's released, but you are right they should put one in as a stretch goal.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on November 01, 2019, 09:56:33 AM
I didn't realize Death Stranding was built on the same engine as HZD. Some candy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQEPme0SXtQ


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on November 04, 2019, 12:05:33 PM
I guess that was the video that finally convinced me to get Death Stranding, but not convinced to buy on release.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on November 15, 2019, 09:54:18 AM
ExileCon starts today. More details on 4.0 and likely the entirely of 3.9 shown, which is supposedly a major release. 3.8 was considered filler.

Oh, and a free chance at MTX if you watch the Twitch stream with a linked account.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on November 18, 2019, 06:29:45 AM
We are all into Death Stranding. Wife says it is the weirdest thing she has ever watched me play, so now I can't play when she is not around.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on November 18, 2019, 09:17:07 AM
We are all into Death Stranding. Wife says it is the weirdest thing she has ever watched me play, so now I can't play when she is not around.
Mine has the unerring ability to always arrive in the shittiest quality cutscene that goes on forever but has enough info that I don't want to skip or ignore it, and roundly begins mocking it and I don't disagree but then I'm trying to still follow what is going on...it's such an utter mess on top of an otherwise good game.

It's usually the scenes with Lindsay Wagner, ye gods she's terrible. Though the name DIE HARDMAN is also a contender for most mocked part of the game.

Doesn't help that she (the fiancee, not Wagner) hates weird anything.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on November 18, 2019, 12:07:12 PM
Weirder is better over here.

Steam tells me there is a Wasteland 3. I thought the consensus was that W2 was awful. ???


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on November 18, 2019, 12:52:02 PM
Weirder is better over here.

Steam tells me there is a Wasteland 3. I thought the consensus was that W2 was awful. ???

Not on reddit, oddly enough. It seems to be revered. I thought it was a ugly, buggy, poorly designed mess that was made by a den of hacks. I wanted it to be better, and some part of me still thinks I should go back and try to finish it to maybe see if my hatred of nostalgia farming was clouding my judgment.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on November 18, 2019, 12:52:45 PM
Negative. 2 was very good. It just wasn't Wasteland from 1988.

EDIT: It helps to play the "Director's cut", aka the 80% finished version as opposed to the 55% finished version that was originally released.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on November 19, 2019, 05:36:49 AM
I thought it sucked. The writing was fucking awful--it felt like a bunch of teenagers made it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on November 21, 2019, 06:29:03 AM
Got my Stadia yesterday, still no code (though it looks like I should get one by the weekend, according to reddit sleuths). Decided to start setup, it all runs off Google Home, I don't have any Assistant/Alexa/Siri crap in my house, so I'm already ready to return it. When I pre-ordered, it said I could get 1080p with my connection, now it's saying 720p. Also only works on Pixels and ChromeOS devices, though there is a workaround if you run Chrome in desktop mode on your device, sorry iOS users).

1. No codes at launch
2. 720p
3. Intrusive software installs
4. Hardware support limited to Google devices

I imagine they'll sort out device support and obv the codes is a temporary hiccup. But the shitty resolution (same as my 2003 tv) and software installs (really, you NEED location on to set up the Chromecast?) are both deal-breakers.

I knew going in that my connection was pretty iffy for this, but wanted to check it out (and play RDR2 on break at work). I forgot it was Google, so they'd want to digitally jizz all over my devices before allowing me to join in. Setting up the return today.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on November 21, 2019, 06:39:32 AM
What kind of connection you have again?

I mean, I thought from the beginning that Stadia was essentially DoA, even if it is an interesting stepping stone.  But 720p....that's like back when I had a Voodoo 2 card running things.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on November 21, 2019, 07:58:31 AM
10Mbps cable, with a couple real streaming hogs on my segment of cable. I can usually stream 4k/5.1 just fine, so I thought it wouldn't be an issue and that the initial test tool's 1080p result was just a conservative estimate. Woops.

I also felt it was DoA but I wanted to check it out anyway. Now I'm interested in which comes through first: my access code or my RMA.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on November 21, 2019, 09:12:41 AM
Just a reminder that MechWarrior 5 is coming out on December 12th. Unfortunately it's gonna be on Epic Store only. But hey, there's a new trailer. Where the most shocking thing is that after 10 years in the business they still haven't hired anyone at PGI who can make pretty UIs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5FWZYuyeDY


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Typhon on November 21, 2019, 04:23:38 PM
Trailer said Dec 10th.  I R CONFUSED!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on November 24, 2019, 07:44:28 AM
Troubleshooter.

This game is on sale for another 24 hours on Steam, for 12 € instead of the usual 20. As you can see the ratings are very high (around 91% positive).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoW5_C9LIco

https://store.steampowered.com/app/470310/Troubleshooter/

It is a very good Korean XCom. Everything plays as you'd expect for it to play out of XCom at least for the combat part, but with an extra emphasis on flashy skills and equipment (there is loot, with random stats) due to its anime-like nature and the completely optional multiplayer element. The theme is weaker, it's some mild cyberpunk stuff where you are basically mercenary-cops fighting criminals in future Korea. Tp be fair, it feels much more like an RPG as you have a cast of protagonists instead of infinite random soldiers.

If you like turn-based games of the XCom kind, minus the setting and with a fraction of the production value, this is a lovely surprise.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on December 03, 2019, 04:25:23 PM
Wildermyth is amazing.

It's an RPG with very light tactical combat on a grid.

What's unique, on top of the beautiful visual style which imitates a boardgame, is the way the stories are told. Your party is created randomly (although you can reroll it as many times as you want) and given a number of semi-secret personality traits. These personality traits contributes to tell the stories of their relationships with each other and with the character they encounter. It is hard to describe what happens and why it is so nice, after all it's all designed to be very quick and very light, but what it achieves is impressive. I don't think I've ever cared so quickly about randomly generated characters with randomly generated personalities. They have dialogues and they are told through vignettes where every single piece of gear you give to your characters or every single disgrace that happens to them (mutilations, sickness) is shown on the figurine.

Too many word to describe a very special little RPG that mixes in an unprecedented way randomly generated content to handcrafted content. In short, the characters are randomly generated, the stories are handcrafted, and the interactions are the result of the combining of these two aspects. It is not a sandbox, and the stories are not infinite so I wouldn't swear on its replayability, but every turn on the strategic map has its own tiny story bit involving your characters and combat doesn't take more than 10 minutes per scenario, so there's a distinct "one more turn" effect.

And then your characters start to grow old and retire or die, and your legacy continues with the next generations, rivalries, and romance. So basically you get some Crusader Kings in this, too.


(https://i.imgur.com/LA6qY2I.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/38llC4X.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/bolYQUl.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Vsp92KV.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Count Nerfedalot on December 18, 2019, 09:15:10 PM
Interesting Falc, I generally get far more entertainment out of your rose-tinted view of games than I do from the usually buggy and seriously flawed games themselves, but that actually looks kinda interesting!  How is the tactical combat? I really miss some of the older, not quite so complex turn-based tactical systems like Breach and Paladin and the like from waaay back when.  Or I think I miss them, not sure if they would be as fun today or not! LOL


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 19, 2019, 07:08:00 AM
I'm not a nostalgic person, I like my memories as they are.

But then Tony D turned me onto a new version of Expedition to Barrier Peaks and I found that I'm not entirely without a nostalgia bone.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 01, 2020, 09:05:20 PM
steam users gave a plague tale the 'story-rich' award over disco elysium for 2019


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on January 01, 2020, 10:25:26 PM
Well, DayZ won some kind of award for multi-something, as did GTA 5.  I mean, GTA 5 is actually a great game, but it is also something like 19 years old.  The only thing DayZ ever had going for it was potential.  So it may be that we cannot fully trust the steam awards.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 01, 2020, 10:57:19 PM
GTA5 won Labor of Love.

Which is horseshit. It's not a labor of love of any sort. It's a labor of profit.

i'm so angry for no reason about the steam awards

anyway disco elysium and slay should've taken every category


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on January 02, 2020, 09:46:38 AM
Steam has awards?

 :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on January 02, 2020, 11:11:13 AM
I tried to fill out the awards thing and apparently I have no idea and it would be too much work to try and actually figure out a vote for the categories. I gave up on it.

So I think the reporting is skewed to people willing to put up with that kind of thing. And zealots stuffing the box, probably.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 02, 2020, 05:38:21 PM
Hopefully the societal bastion known as industry awards will not suffer from this blemish.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on January 02, 2020, 10:44:15 PM
More importantly, we need to hold our own awards voting, split by categories and genre, where we can all has out the various pros and cons of each game through 14 pages.  And then Schild can swoop in and unilaterally declare DE the winner of all categories.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ard on January 02, 2020, 11:24:10 PM
More importantly, we need to hold our own awards voting, split by categories and genre, where we can all has out the various pros and cons of each game through 14 pages.  And then Schild can swoop in and unilaterally declare DE the winner of all categories.

That was earlier this year on Discord, by year.   :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on January 02, 2020, 11:52:47 PM
Yeah, I know.  Did that include 2019 and DE already?  Whatever.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on January 03, 2020, 05:09:54 AM
Slay the Spire was declared the 2019 winner before DE came out.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on January 03, 2020, 06:43:52 AM
Stuffed by zealots and cumbersome voting  :drillf:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 03, 2020, 08:50:57 AM
Slay the Spire was declared the 2019 winner before DE came out.

Yeah this was regrettable and wrong. We have fixed the headline, but no one noticed because it was a subtweet.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 04, 2020, 02:33:42 AM
Interesting Falc, I generally get far more entertainment out of your rose-tinted view of games than I do from the usually buggy and seriously flawed games themselves, but that actually looks kinda interesting!  How is the tactical combat? I really miss some of the older, not quite so complex turn-based tactical systems like Breach and Paladin and the like from waaay back when.  Or I think I miss them, not sure if they would be as fun today or not! LOL

The tactical combat seems light but as you point out in a good way. Admittedly, it has to be seen how it ramps up with more skills both for you and the enemies but I am waiting for more content to delve deeper into what I believe is a flat out rose-tinted great game. I'll definitely report back when they'll leave Early Access. This game doesn't win my personal indie Game of the Year award simply because of Disco Elysium but that's how much I like it so far. For what it's worth it, it's one of those 99% positive rating on Steam games.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on January 08, 2020, 12:27:24 PM
Some pretty interesting ideas chucked around about how SSD might change up stuff at an almost fundamental level: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR-uH8vSeBY


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on January 14, 2020, 12:40:27 PM
Fucking be there, vol 1: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/shredmageddon/shred-mages-vol-1-the-shredmageddon



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on January 14, 2020, 12:58:26 PM
He's 23 years late:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_PqZofBPWg


 :grin: :awesome_for_real: :awesome_for_real:




Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 21, 2020, 08:26:36 AM
Americans probably wouldn't understand, but this is a HUGE deal for European forty-something. Also, Steam, so fuck yeah all the way to Japan and back.

Captain Tsubasa the videogame!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=futiptE6BtY


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on January 22, 2020, 07:11:35 PM
Half-Life games for free for a limited time:

https://store.steampowered.com/news/57848/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 11, 2020, 08:44:10 AM
Red Dead miniature life looks nice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3A6W5VhLkw&feature=youtu.be


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on February 11, 2020, 06:20:12 PM
What is that, just video capture from the game reprocessed through tilt-shift?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 12, 2020, 12:23:04 PM
I believe so.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on February 16, 2020, 07:44:13 AM
Wildermyth is fun, by the way. Thanks for posting about it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 18, 2020, 11:34:55 AM
My pleasure. It's my favourite game of 2019 behind the big three Sekiro, Death Stranding and DISCOELYSIUM.

In other useless news and chatter, the silence about Wolcen here is deafening. I guess everyone is too busy playing it. I resisted as much as I could but no caving in was ever sweeter.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on February 18, 2020, 11:50:52 AM
In other useless news and chatter, the silence about Wolcen here is deafening. I guess everyone is too busy playing it. I resisted as much as I could but no caving in was ever sweeter.
I'm waiting for the bugs and server issues to be fixed. I watched a streamer lose a bunch of stuff from a known bug that he thought was fixed with the patch that he just applied moving from Act 2 to 3. Felt bad.

Edit: add quote


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on February 18, 2020, 01:08:14 PM
Eh, for me there's no appeal. When I'm not playing PoE, the last thing I want to play is another ARPG.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on February 18, 2020, 02:11:04 PM
But it’s so shiny :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ezrast on February 18, 2020, 03:11:49 PM
Wolcen really nailed ARPG combat and skill design, and everything else about the game is a horrendously bug-ridden clusterfuck. As a software engineer I almost feel guilty enjoying such a technically disastrous product. No ragrets though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on February 19, 2020, 12:08:08 PM
I'm somewhere between Rasix and Trippy; burned out on the current POE league so I'm not feeling the ARPG itch. Certainly not enough to deal with 2004-MMO-style launch bullshit. If it holds up well enough in six months, I'll grab it on a Steam sale.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 19, 2020, 12:32:29 PM
The issues are overrated. And eventual server issues (which I did not find at all) are easily sidestepped by creating an offline character for the time being. The game is worth it all.

EDIT: For fairness, this is another game that is only gonna get better, so the more you wait the better it will be even though whatever MMO-style launch disaster is probably already in the past.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on February 19, 2020, 12:35:54 PM
Not when there's a risk your offline character will be wiped due to bugs/crashes/etc.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ezrast on February 19, 2020, 03:28:29 PM
The issues are not being overstated. Off the top of my head:
- There are two types of endgame upgrades that brick your account if you log off while they're in progress
- You can generate infinite gold by stacking and unstacking gems (stacking gems combines their gold rolls; unstacking gems doesn't divide the gold value back up)
- Exiting to the main menu crashes the game 100% of the time
- Two separate passive skills are 100x more powerful than they should be because someone accidentally a decimal point
- It's common for mobs or players to get stuck in unpathable areas
- Clicks on inventory items will randomly fail to register
- Tooltips are missing critical information; one skill upgrade gives you "a buff" and doesn't say what kind of buff.
- It's not clear which damage increase percentages are multiplicative and which are additive. Everything in the latter category is diluted to near-uselessness by your main stat bonuses.
- Too many skill interaction bugs to count: ES leech resets your ES to zero when it fills up; a supposed block -> crit conversion instead just sets crit to 100%; CDR doesn't work on some skills, etc etc etc
- Random crashes and animation locks in general

I've been playing the game all week and am level 60-something. I'm getting my money's worth and am going to keep playing it and having fun. I would buy it again. But Wolcen is absolutely an alpha- or early beta-quality product right now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 19, 2020, 05:58:35 PM
The issues are not being overstated. Off the top of my head:
- There are two types of endgame upgrades that brick your account if you log off while they're in progress
- You can generate infinite gold by stacking and unstacking gems (stacking gems combines their gold rolls; unstacking gems doesn't divide the gold value back up)
- Exiting to the main menu crashes the game 100% of the time
- Two separate passive skills are 100x more powerful than they should be because someone accidentally a decimal point
- It's common for mobs or players to get stuck in unpathable areas
- Clicks on inventory items will randomly fail to register
- Tooltips are missing critical information; one skill upgrade gives you "a buff" and doesn't say what kind of buff.
- It's not clear which damage increase percentages are multiplicative and which are additive. Everything in the latter category is diluted to near-uselessness by your main stat bonuses.
- Too many skill interaction bugs to count: ES leech resets your ES to zero when it fills up; a supposed block -> crit conversion instead just sets crit to 100%; CDR doesn't work on some skills, etc etc etc
- Random crashes and animation locks in general

I've been playing the game all week and am level 60-something. I'm getting my money's worth and am going to keep playing it and having fun. I would buy it again. But Wolcen is absolutely an alpha- or early beta-quality product right now.

wait, which upgrades brick your account?

also, I can exit to the main menu safely 100% of the time

also, which passives? lol


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on February 19, 2020, 06:36:18 PM
Bane of Tyranny is one of the broken passives, as in at least one order of magnitude (if not two) stronger than it should be.

Edit: It is/was two orders of magnitude. Secure Parry is the other.

https://steamcommunity.com/games/424370/announcements/detail/3241965989316412073


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ezrast on February 19, 2020, 07:19:44 PM
wait, which upgrades brick your account?
Transmutation Forge and Dark Market. If you log out with an item being worked on you can't log back in, per many people on Reddit. I'm not sure if it affects offline play but I'm not about to chance it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 20, 2020, 09:09:54 AM
3 gigs patch today might address some of those. I'll be honest, I elected to play offline so far due to what I've heard about servers. Maybe that's what made my experience so much better.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 20, 2020, 01:35:22 PM
Things to make people like Sky (who don't play Nintendo games) interested in the Switch: Witcher 3 patched to have cross-platform saves with PC (apparently D:OS2 does this, as well?).

I could get behind a device that could let me play a few games untethered from the big screen (especially when the old lady is watching useless crap like the Dem debates). I don't think the switch is that device, but I like the precedents it's setting.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 27, 2020, 07:22:27 AM
Looking for a game where I build and manage an adventuring party but don't have to play the combat piece. Like if Darkest Dungeon only had the town part.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 27, 2020, 07:51:49 AM
Try Fear Equation. (https://store.steampowered.com/app/428350/Fear_Equation/)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on February 27, 2020, 08:19:20 AM
There's Rebuild 3: Gangs of Deadsville:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/257170/Rebuild_3_Gangs_of_Deadsville/

but it's light on the RPG elements and it's not fantasy-themed.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on February 27, 2020, 08:48:40 PM
Baldur's Gate 3 -- aka Divinity: Original Sin 3* -- gameplay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9hU6UJX_pc

* Combat is D:OS2's turn-based combat rather than BG I&II's real-time with pause combat


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on February 28, 2020, 03:39:22 AM
I mean, I'm happy because I like the Divinity Engine, the interactivity and the passion Larian puts into its products.

And yet, it's a bit jarring to watch the gameplay because it looks a bit too much like a "BG3 conversion mod" someone would publish in the D:OS 2 workshop :P . I'm mostly talking about the graphic palette, but specifically the items/armors. Unless they're placeholders, there are lots of item icons in the inventory that are straight from D:OS 2, and IMO that is a bit too much.

Now, they still have to reveal some features, and also we've already seen that the underlying mechanics are dictated by an adaptation of D&D 5th rather than the in-house divinity ones, so that's good.

Dialogue system...Uuh...it will take a bit to get used to.

Now, you could argue: "ok, but what about the gold box games? a dozen of them with the same toolkit, and same goes for the Infinity Engine ones! ". Sure, but they all started with the same game systems, mechanics, graphics, in-game lore and atmosphere etc. With this, moving everything (aesthetically wise) from D:OS and slapping the BG3 label on it gives me an "off" sensation, I don't know.

What I'm trying to say is: Ok, sure, I'll play another Divinity game, they're good. Uh? What do you mean "it's BG3" ?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Reg on February 28, 2020, 06:38:15 AM
I was pretty happy to hear about a new Baldur's Gate sequel until I found out it was from the Divinity guys. I didn't like Divinity Original Sin at all so I'm going to hold off on this one.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: lamaros on February 28, 2020, 05:31:12 PM
Baldur's Gate 3 -- aka Divinity: Original Sin 3* -- gameplay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9hU6UJX_pc

* Combat is D:OS2's turn-based combat rather than BG I&II's real-time with pause combat


The three weakest points for Larian for me are their stat system, their companion system, plotting, and their worldbuilding. I hope that the BG3 elements help them improve on this...

General feeling is they still go too hard on the naff over the top fantasy stuff out of the gate - tone doesn't feel at all BG, and there looked to be a bunch too many skills on those low level characters... but we'll see.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on February 28, 2020, 05:48:21 PM
BG3 is currently visually indistinguishable from Divinity: Original Sin, and that's very worrying.

I'm also not thrilled that Larian seem to be still leaning into having way too many environmental factors to deal with in combat, which was an utter nightmare in both Original Sin games, and leads to a large amount of metagaming you need to perform in order to not die horribly all the time.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: lamaros on February 28, 2020, 06:11:52 PM
They seem to be from the "more is more" school of thought.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Reg on February 29, 2020, 05:59:39 AM
I just watched the gameplay demo. The guy wiped his party in the very first battle. Fuck Larian's "distinct combat style." I've got no time for that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on March 01, 2020, 06:09:01 AM
I feel like games these days end up being complex for the sake of being complex, and it gets in the way of fun.  Divinity reminds me of this.  RDR2 reminds me of this.  Needlessly complicated, and often from the very beginning.  It isn’t that I can’t figure them out, it is because I don’t want to.

And it pisses me off, because I would otherwise very much want to play these games.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on March 01, 2020, 06:49:03 AM
RDR2 didn't feel that way to me after a short bit. Larian's combat *never* gets intuitive or fun, it's always a micromanagement chore.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: lamaros on March 01, 2020, 05:10:36 PM
I feel the same way about crafting, but I seem to be in the minority there.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on March 01, 2020, 11:01:17 PM
I dislike what most people think of as "crafting", probably for the same reasons.  There are exceptions.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 10, 2020, 11:17:54 AM
DUDE

2k is getting back into the NFL game!! Non-sim for now (probably another NFL Street or similar arcadey thing), but EA's current license is to 2021, so...a few years to polish up the engine and we may FINALLY have a decent NFL game to play!

https://twitter.com/Ronnie2K

 so moist rn


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on March 10, 2020, 12:04:32 PM
Never enjoyed any Football game as much as the early John Maddens' on the Sega Megadrive/Genesis. I've been wishing for the right one for 27 years now as the last one I really loved was John Madden Football 1993. I'll keep trying though, so this is good news.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 10, 2020, 01:13:15 PM
Even if you prefer the modern Maddens (I guess some may?), competition should be good for it. EA has really slacked on a ton of stuff with no real compulsion to fix it. I'm an offline franchise player and they're all about MUT and microtransactions, adding shit like Two Chainz or whatever as guest players rather than fix things like being more or less unable to field a punt return inside the ten yard line.

2k could put out the worst NFL game in history and I'll buy it just to give them a sale...to hopefully crack the monopoly EA has had on the NFL license for 15 years now.

edit: and as someone who first played Joe Montana Sports Talk Football on the Genesis, I had thought I missed the sideline view of the field...Madden now supports that camera and...I don't :D


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on March 10, 2020, 07:58:47 PM
If 2k comes back into the game with a first person football view, my pants will not be able to contain my joy.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on March 18, 2020, 08:55:11 AM
Football Manager 2020 is totally free on Steam 'til March 25th (yep, one full week).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on March 18, 2020, 10:48:34 AM
Sony’s PS5 “deep dive” GDC presentation: https://youtu.be/ph8LyNIT9sg


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on March 18, 2020, 11:23:57 AM
"Now the real fun begins..."

Presentation ends.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: 01101010 on March 18, 2020, 11:35:50 AM
Sony’s PS5 “deep dive” GDC presentation: https://youtu.be/ph8LyNIT9sg


I really really want someone to do the MST3K treatment on this with the way this was recorded.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on April 01, 2020, 10:17:26 AM
Here we go. Mostly for Cyrrex, a week after releasing Trails of Cold Steel 3, here they are already advertising for Trails of Cold Steel 4.

Announcement trailer. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJuiS8UZM_8&feature=youtu.be&utm_source=Prinny+Bomb+Newsletter&utm_campaign=a7fef49108-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_03_30_09_38&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_349f7d20f9-a7fef49108-152211689)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on April 01, 2020, 10:44:14 AM
By the time I get around to that, hopefully they will be close to a PC release.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on April 18, 2020, 04:30:12 PM

Ahh, Atari, what memories those five letters bring to all of us. A pioneristic era in the eighties, the 800Xl, the glorious ST, and other numerous things....Then the recent try with the Atari VCS, which is still in development, albeit with some delays.














AND THEN OF COURSE THE ATARI CASINO, HOW COULD I FORGET THAT?

https://www.casinoatari.com/

 :uhrr: :uhrr: :uhrr: :uhrr: :uhrr:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on April 18, 2020, 07:47:15 PM
Okay.. So Atari has it's own crypto currency now.

I mean, what could go wrong?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on April 23, 2020, 10:56:47 AM
Picross S4 is out today. Excited to have a fourth version of this where I’m stuck at 94% completed.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on April 23, 2020, 11:40:43 AM
Picross S4 is out today. Excited to have a fourth version of this where I’m stuck at 94% completed.

Bought.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on April 24, 2020, 01:33:33 PM
Total War: Shogun 2 is going Free To Own on Monday.  https://www.totalwar.com/blog/total-war-shogun-2-giveaway-and-total-war-sale-faq/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on May 13, 2020, 12:39:30 PM
A first look at Unreal Engine 5 (https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/blog/a-first-look-at-unreal-engine-5)

YouTube version of demo video in above link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON9McY8OsjE

Demo video without intro/narration
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBktSo0bXas

FULL Unreal Engine 5 - Official PS5 Tech Demo Reveal Presentation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9vhEm0rjJk


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on May 13, 2020, 03:15:41 PM
Development times are already becoming extreme. I can't imagine this will shorten the process. It's pretty though, that's for sure.

I realized the other day that it has been almost nine years since Skyrim came out. Bethesda said recently ES6 is years away from any game details. We could be looking at fifteen years between ES games; that's wild to think about, considering they were on a 4-5 year cycle prior to this.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on May 13, 2020, 03:26:12 PM
It might if you were already making super high polygon count assets because you no longer have to convert them down into versions that can actually be rendered cause the engine does that for you now (in theory).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on May 13, 2020, 03:26:37 PM
Well, they'll still need to re-release Skyrim for the new consoles. That might take a few development cycles.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on May 13, 2020, 04:55:49 PM
Development times are already becoming extreme.

This is absolutely not purely a "art and code is hard" problem.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on May 13, 2020, 10:44:28 PM
I will probably be buying a PS5 at or around release, mostly because my PS4 vanilla edition is long in the tooth and I would probably upgrade it to a Pro if the 5 weren't coming soon.  But I have no expectiation that it is actually going to produce what we just saw up there in real world scenarios.  It'll be a miracle if it can even pull of 4k at 60hz as a standard, let alone pushing anything that looks that nice in the process.  I know they make claims of 4k, 8k, 60hz, 120hz, etc.....but we have heard this song before.  

4K?  Sure!  Sometimes!  But mostly at 30hz.....

120hz?  Sure!  Sometimes!  But probably only at 720p, you all probably have old TVs anyway....

8K?  By golly sure!  Sometimes!  You can't prove it's not!

I have no doubt the machine will have a lot going for it, but no console is going to compare to a high end PC, and high end PCs can barely manage this shit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on May 13, 2020, 11:02:19 PM
We have heard that song before.

I'm still more impressed by Horizon Zero Dawn than anything that's been on PC in the last 10 years. Not that I played it for more than 2 hours. But boy, what a looker.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on May 13, 2020, 11:48:04 PM
PS4 manages to punch above its weight class with a lot of games as gets to the end of its cycle, but we have seen that before, too.  Still, plunk the same game over into a PC and it is no contest.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on May 14, 2020, 08:43:54 AM
That's the thing. For some reason some games on a PS4 look fantastic. Really stunning. But port those games on PC and they are not just the same, they are better.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on May 14, 2020, 08:51:47 AM
If the PS5 can do 4k at 60hz for absolutely everything, I will be a happy camper.  But consoles always get super hyped for their groundbreaking power, and never once do they manage to even beat a medium range PC.

Still getting one, but not under the illusion of astonishing graphics prowess.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on May 14, 2020, 12:03:03 PM
The PS5 is apparently getting high marks from developers as being easy to work with. I think Sony's approach to hardware makes more sense than Microsoft's- where Sony's is basically fewer CUs but higher clocks and massive throughput to feed them.

We'll see if that helps in the end, because outside of PS5-specific exclusives all crossplat games will be designed with PS4/Xbone/PCs in mind. Even current PC nvme drives can't lay a hand on the weird custom thing Sony has in the PS5.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on May 14, 2020, 12:36:41 PM
Streamlining development and minimizing pop-in are really important things to be working on, so it's a good incremental step. Also, if their GI can deliver a relatively low overhead lighting solution, it can bandage the high costs of ray-tracing by allowing devs to use ray-tracing for more bang for the buck. But I think the scalability is going to be the glue that makes it stick, if it plays out that way.

I will likely buy a PS5 before I upgrade my ancient PC, because it will be far cheaper. I only boot up my PC to play minecraft or Rocksmith. The mods and controls for minecraft are superior, and Rocksmith on the PC gives me CDLC and ASIO.

There are some real nice looking games on the PS4 (I have a Pro), and for the most part they're good enough for me and my honkin tv. But we're talking exclusives: HZD, Spider-Man, Days Gone, Death Stranding all look great and are playable. Older and cross-plat stuff like the Witcher 3 and GTA V look way better on my 970...at shit framerates. For the Witcher, it's still enjoyable but the GTA V pc version is tangibly better (more pedestrians, more car variety, etc).

It's a good situation to be in, really.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on May 14, 2020, 10:57:30 PM
Quote
I will likely buy a PS5 before I upgrade my ancient PC, because it will be far cheaper.

Obviously depends on what you would have to upgrade.....but isn't the PS5 going to be like 600 bucks or something?  Maybe 500?  Early pricing in DK, which is obviously skewed, has it going for even more than that.

Not that it changes anything as such.  The experts are guessing 500, but I am guessing it'll be higher at launch.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on May 15, 2020, 04:05:52 AM
To me a Playstation is NEVER a bad deal, not even at $600, if nothing else for those 4 or 5 exclusives you get through its lifetime. I am absolutely buying it as soon as the first exclusive that I am interested in shows up, knowing that a few more will certainly follow.

I grabbed the PS4 a few monhts after launch for Bloodborne and even though I love it and I think it's a very cool machine, over 5 years I've only ever used it for Bloodborne, Persona 5, GT Sport, Horizon Zero Dawn, Death Stranding, and Last of Us 2. And yes, still worth $600 if that happened to be the case with the next one.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on May 15, 2020, 04:32:37 AM
To me a Playstation is NEVER a bad deal, not even at $600, if nothing else for those 4 or 5 exclusives you get through its lifetime. I am absolutely buying it as soon as the first exclusive that I am interested in shows up, knowing that a few more will certainly follow.

I grabbed the PS4 a few monhts after launch for Bloodborne and even though I love it and I think it's a very cool machine, over 5 years I've only ever used it for Bloodborne, Persona 5, GT Sport, Horizon Zero Dawn, Death Stranding, and Last of Us 2. And yes, still worth $600 if that happened to be the case with the next one.

Pretty much agree.  My PS4 has also been my daily driver for things like Netflix, HBO, etc.  The apps they have are generlly working better than what you have on PC or in browsers, and the sound is better too usually.  I will get a PS5 for that reason alone, assuming it is going to manage that shit at 4K.  Guess it will have a 4k blu ray, but I think I have long stopped caring about physical discs.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on May 15, 2020, 08:40:49 AM
The PS3 launched at $599*. It wouldn’t surprise me if the PS5 had the same price though I do think $499 or perhaps $549 is more likely.

* ignoring the $499 model that was missing HDMI output and other features


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on May 15, 2020, 01:43:10 PM
I'll have to almost completely rebuild the pc except for PSU at this point, so it would get pricey. And it would likely tempt me to get an Index, too, so...$600 seems like the bargain choice here!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on May 15, 2020, 09:39:16 PM
The Store That Shall Not Be Named is doing their additional $10 off coupon thingy sale again. Also GTA 5 is the free game right now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on May 16, 2020, 10:17:37 PM
To me a Playstation is NEVER a bad deal, not even at $600, if nothing else for those 4 or 5 exclusives you get through its lifetime. I am absolutely buying it as soon as the first exclusive that I am interested in shows up, knowing that a few more will certainly follow.

I grabbed the PS4 a few monhts after launch for Bloodborne and even though I love it and I think it's a very cool machine, over 5 years I've only ever used it for Bloodborne, Persona 5, GT Sport, Horizon Zero Dawn, Death Stranding, and Last of Us 2. And yes, still worth $600 if that happened to be the case with the next one.

Pretty much agree.  My PS4 has also been my daily driver for things like Netflix, HBO, etc.  The apps they have are generlly working better than what you have on PC or in browsers, and the sound is better too usually.  I will get a PS5 for that reason alone, assuming it is going to manage that shit at 4K.  Guess it will have a 4k blu ray, but I think I have long stopped caring about physical discs.

We had a similar conversation over on Discord and I generally agree that Playstations are usually worth buying even if you only play a few exclusive games. Over on the PC the past several years I've played stuff like Slay the Spire, Ratropolis, Disco Elysium, Grim Dawn, and Hex. I struggle to think of anything I've played that needs an impressive rig. FFXIV looks pretty good I guess? Maybe Mortal Kombat 11 looked better on the PC? No idea really and probably not enough to matter.

On the PS4 I had stuff like God of War, Bloodborne, and Spider-man. Could those games have looked better on the PC? Sure, but they're never going to end up there. The PC doesn't currently have the equivalent of Sony 1st party stuff. They used to have Valve and Blizzard but they aren't quite what they use to be. What the PC does have is a fuck ton of indie developers and an outlet for those developers to get their stuff released.

Roundabout way of saying I haven't felt compelled to upgrade my PC because of games in ages (most recent upgrade was so I could rip and transcode my movie collection faster).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on May 22, 2020, 12:44:44 AM
The Store That Shall Not Be Named is doing their additional $10 off coupon thingy sale again. Also GTA 5 is the free game right now.
Now the free game is Civ VI.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on May 22, 2020, 01:03:27 AM
The Store That Shall Not Be Named is doing their additional $10 off coupon thingy sale again. Also GTA 5 is the free game right now.
Now the free game is Civ VI.


To be clear, this is perma-free?

Never mind....I just looked and I guess it is.  I mean, shit.  That’s pretty nice.  What’s the catch, other than having to install shitware on my computer?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on May 22, 2020, 01:21:36 AM
That's the only catch.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on May 22, 2020, 01:42:55 AM
That is probably worth it for Civ VI.  I already have this shit on all the kids’ computers.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mosesandstick on May 22, 2020, 07:45:42 AM
The freebies and discounts on the Epic store are ridiculous - I finally bit the bullet and picked up Civ VI.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Reg on May 22, 2020, 08:21:32 AM
Can you buy the expansions for this Epic freebie on Steam or do I actually have to give them money?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Father mike on May 25, 2020, 11:46:15 AM
Can you buy the expansions for this Epic freebie on Steam or do I actually have to give them money?

I don't think you can mix and match like that.  But you can do cross store multiplayer, according to reddit.

The Epic store has the Platinum upgrade on sale right now, and I think you get a $10 coupon for "buying" the base Civ game.  So you wind up getting Civ6 + Gathering Storm and Rise & Fall for $29 vs $47 on Steam.

I already had Epic installed for Mechwarrior 5, so I went with it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Reg on May 25, 2020, 12:19:14 PM
I had a nightmarish time returning a game to Epic after playing it for less that half an hour. I don't want to give them any money at all.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on May 25, 2020, 01:58:39 PM
Epic Store now has self-service refunds:

https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/news/development-update-self-refund-keyless-partner-integration-and-changes-to-ownership-authorization


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on May 27, 2020, 07:40:13 AM
Phantasy Star Online 2 is finally available, 8 years later. Free to play, Microsoft Store.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Father mike on May 28, 2020, 09:52:25 AM
Avoid PSO2 from the MS store.  It improperly sets permissions so it doesn't recognize it's own files, reinstalls it's self in all available space on the drive, then "forgets" where these installs are so it can't be uninstalled.

Total clusterfuck.  Forums are talking about re-formatting being the best option to reclaim disk space.  Don't know if that's impatient teens or the actual best solution, but the fact that folks are even discussing a reformat over a game install is bad.

EDIT: I was able to clear the disk space by changing the permissions in \WindowsApps and manually deleting multiple directories.  But still ...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on May 28, 2020, 10:05:55 AM
The Store That Shall Not Be Named is doing their additional $10 off coupon thingy sale again. Also GTA 5 is the free game right now.
Now the free game is Civ VI.
Another Thursday; this time Borderlands: The Handsome Collection.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on May 28, 2020, 11:12:51 AM
Avoid PSO2 from the MS store.  It improperly sets permissions so it doesn't recognize it's own files, reinstalls it's self in all available space on the drive, then "forgets" where these installs are so it can't be uninstalled.

Total clusterfuck.  Forums are talking about re-formatting being the best option to reclaim disk space.  Don't know if that's impatient teens or the actual best solution, but the fact that folks are even discussing a reformat over a game install is bad.

EDIT: I was able to clear the disk space by changing the permissions in \WindowsApps and manually deleting multiple directories.  But still ...


I have been very lucky then. This launch has been flawless for me so far, and I used the MS Store. Zero issues, both install and account wise.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on May 28, 2020, 05:59:10 PM
Lollllll


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on May 28, 2020, 09:47:39 PM
Avoid PSO2 from the MS store.  It improperly sets permissions so it doesn't recognize it's own files, reinstalls it's self in all available space on the drive, then "forgets" where these installs are so it can't be uninstalled.

Total clusterfuck.  Forums are talking about re-formatting being the best option to reclaim disk space.  Don't know if that's impatient teens or the actual best solution, but the fact that folks are even discussing a reformat over a game install is bad.

EDIT: I was able to clear the disk space by changing the permissions in \WindowsApps and manually deleting multiple directories.  But still ...


Same here. Nary a problem was had with the install.
I have been very lucky then. This launch has been flawless for me so far, and I used the MS Store. Zero issues, both install and account wise.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on June 02, 2020, 09:37:07 PM
Total War fans, mark August 13th on your calendars. SEGA is giving away the upcoming Total War: Troy FOR FREE! for the first 24 hours of the game's release.

Oh, and the giveaway is on the Epic Store and the game will be an exclusive there for the first year...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on June 03, 2020, 01:58:38 PM
PS+ annual sub is 30% off today on newegg


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on June 04, 2020, 07:15:06 PM
PS+ annual sub is 30% off today on newegg
That discount ($41.99 vs $59.99 regular) is available in multiple places at the moment including Amazon and the PlayStation store itself if you don't have a Newegg account.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on June 05, 2020, 07:45:33 AM
Total War fans, mark August 13th on your calendars. SEGA is giving away the upcoming Total War: Troy FOR FREE! for the first 24 hours of the game's release.

Oh, and the giveaway is on the Epic Store and the game will be an exclusive there for the first year...

Troy is being given away for free because it looks absolutely awful, and after Thrones of Britannia, nobody is going to buy a Total War Saga title for $40. The preview builds and closed-door showings of the game have been almost universally panned, and recent videos showing off a preview battle do not do it any favors either. It tries to straddle the historical-versus-fantastical line and does it very poorly, unlike something like Three Kingdoms.

About the best thing that could be said for it so far is that it looks like it's being used as a test bed for features and QOL that'll come in Total Warhammer 3, as it uses the same engine.

Also as a side note, since Total War games all run out of CA's own launcher, after the initial purchase and install, the Epic Store will be pretty unobtrusive for it. Here's hoping Warhammer 3 doesn't get snagged though, as that'll be an absolute nightmare with DLC integration.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on June 11, 2020, 01:57:25 PM
Some sort of Demons Souls was just announced for PSV. Can't tell if it's a remaster or new.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on June 11, 2020, 02:16:36 PM
Not a remaster, it's a remake. Also, not by FROM -- it's from Bluepoint Games, they did the Shadow of the Colossus remake, among other remakes/remasters.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on June 11, 2020, 02:27:10 PM
Ah, thanks. They did a good job with the SotC remake, but not sure about doing DS.

Otherwise there was lots of good looking stuff in the PSV presser, and also a bit of meh.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on June 11, 2020, 02:27:48 PM
Yeah they previewed a lot of stuff.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 11, 2020, 02:35:19 PM
Seems like it has land of giants don't care who is making it, from is mediocre at best anyway


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 11, 2020, 02:35:54 PM
Some of us were crying in Discord when Demon's Souls showed up. With that said, knowing it's not by From is the ultimate party pooper. Sure, it could turn out good but I don't trust it.

Anyway, here are the only trailers you should care about from the 80 minutes presentation.

The Playstation 5. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkC0l4iekYo)

Demon's Souls (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TMs2E6cms4)

Horizon Forbidden West (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RSKqJyYBIQ)

Project Athia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doe3kUqHIcM)

Returnal (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv4BjWoB-NA)

Deathloop (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc2hz3LJhTY)

Resident Evil 8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRpXEc-EJow)

Gran Turismo 7 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz-O74SmTSQ)

Little Devil Inside (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FqsyNSYSKc)

Stray (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u84hRUQlaio)

Ghostwire Tokyo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4tkNjJsOvY)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on June 11, 2020, 02:39:57 PM
You missed Ratchet and Clank. ;)

Returnal looked like a neat idea with a terrible name made by a marketing team that needs to try harder.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 11, 2020, 03:06:50 PM
I haven't forgotten Ratchet and Clank, I've ignored it.

I may have forgotten this one though

Pragmata (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoxCboik0Is)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on June 11, 2020, 04:19:42 PM
Here's the R&C trailer I referenced above: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai3o0XtrnM8&feature=emb_logo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai3o0XtrnM8&feature=emb_logo)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 13, 2020, 11:16:58 AM
Persona 4 (Golden) JUST dropped on Steam. HD version. $20

It is better than Christmas!

 :drill: :drillf: :drillf: :drill: :drill: :drillf: :drillf: :drill: :drillf: :drill: :drillf: :drillf: :drill: :drillf: :drill: :drill: :drill: :drillf:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1113000/Persona_4_Golden/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on June 13, 2020, 12:18:22 PM
Do you just not like Insomniac? No love for the Miles Morales Spidey joint? Their first spidey was great.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on June 15, 2020, 12:35:18 AM
Persona 4 (Golden) JUST dropped on Steam. HD version. $20

It is better than Christmas!

 :drill: :drillf: :drillf: :drill: :drill: :drillf: :drillf: :drill: :drillf: :drill: :drillf: :drillf: :drill: :drillf: :drill: :drill: :drill: :drillf:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1113000/Persona_4_Golden/

Better or worse than 5?  I stalled out on 5 (due to a unexpected death too far removed from a save, and then a crash too far removed from a save in the same fucking location), but still liked it quite a bit.  20 dollars is surprisingly cheap.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 15, 2020, 05:50:25 AM
Overall, I think 5 is probably the best Persona. But depending on how much setting, characters, atmosphere and stories have an impact on you that can easily change. For example, I like Persona 3 much better than Persona 4 but public opinion is split. Same for Shin Megami Tensei 3 and/or 4. Also, if you ask me the quality of the port is fantastic. The game is gorgeous in a way that it's hard to see its Playstation 2 roots.

So the answer is: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  (I have no idea how people do this characters, I copy-pasted it from Google after searching "shrug emoticon")


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 15, 2020, 08:22:32 AM
Griftlands is on Steam now for $10, and there's a demo too. It's an RPG with a "Slay" engine. It is much more than what you can describe in a few words. It deserves to be checked out and even tried (again, free demo) without thinking too much.

From Klei, the Oxygen not included and Don't Starve people.


https://store.steampowered.com/app/601840/Griftlands/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on June 15, 2020, 10:52:19 AM
Persona 4 (Golden) JUST dropped on Steam. HD version. $20

It is better than Christmas!

 :drill: :drillf: :drillf: :drill: :drill: :drillf: :drillf: :drill: :drillf: :drill: :drillf: :drillf: :drill: :drillf: :drill: :drill: :drill: :drillf:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1113000/Persona_4_Golden/

Better or worse than 5?  I stalled out on 5 (due to a unexpected death too far removed from a save, and then a crash too far removed from a save in the same fucking location), but still liked it quite a bit.  20 dollars is surprisingly cheap.

I like 5 better. 4 has some decent story lines and some QOL improvements over P3. I stalled out on 4 and couldn't finish. I think I was underleveled at some point and just didn't feel like grinding it out.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on June 15, 2020, 01:06:18 PM
Rocksmith 2014 is $9 on humble rn https://www.humblebundle.com/store/rocksmith-2014-edition

Still need to get a cord (unless you know what ASIO is), but if you buy Cherub Rock DLC you can get thousands of fan-made DLCs (it uses Cherub Rock as a base for modding).

And I do mean thousands, I'm over 1000 songs now and I'm fairly picky  :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on June 17, 2020, 09:37:29 AM
There was a System Shock alpha dev demo a couple weeks ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6QXr62mb1g



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on June 21, 2020, 04:14:35 PM
So I discovered a downside to playing more frequently on a Nintendo console (a Switch). I can no longer play on an Xbox controller because the face buttons, while sharing the same labels as Nintendo, are all in different positions. I was trying to play the Code Vein demo on PC yesterday because the full game is on Steam sale and was trying to decide if I wanted to purchase it and I was constantly struggling to press the proper button on button prompts. So now I have a PS4 controller on order so I can use that instead.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on June 21, 2020, 04:41:48 PM
If only there wasn't an X on xbox and ps4 controllers I'd probably be able to move between them ok. But there do be.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on June 22, 2020, 11:55:39 AM
RIP Mixer: https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/22/21299032/microsoft-mixer-closing-facebook-gaming-partnership-xcloud-features


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on June 22, 2020, 11:57:21 AM
My wife has been among the streamers using Mixer up until last night. Apparently there is some serious high drama involving racist bullshit and sexual harrassment/rape allegations that blew up in the last 24 hours.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on June 22, 2020, 12:26:24 PM
I'm sorry your wife is a racist rapist, Haemmy. There is help available, you don't need to live with that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on June 23, 2020, 10:44:59 AM
:rimshot:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on June 23, 2020, 11:01:52 AM
I'm sorry your wife is a racist rapist, Haemmy. There is help available, you don't need to live with that.

Is that someone who is both a racist and a rapist, or is it a rapist that rapes racists?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on July 06, 2020, 06:18:36 PM
Watch Dogs 2 for PC will be given away for free during the Ubisoft Forward stream July 12th for those with Uplay accounts.

https://news.ubisoft.com/en-us/article/41nS5f7EjNSB9Hi7CwSuVz/ubisoft-forward-everything-you-need-to-know


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on July 12, 2020, 12:35:09 PM
Watch Dogs 2 for PC will be given away for free during the Ubisoft Forward stream July 12th for those with Uplay accounts.

https://news.ubisoft.com/en-us/article/41nS5f7EjNSB9Hi7CwSuVz/ubisoft-forward-everything-you-need-to-know


In "no suprise" news, the login servers shit the bed and nobody can get the game or the special AC:Valhalla items for being logged in and watching the video.

EDIT: Apparently they're giving all rewards to all accounts or something.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 13, 2020, 06:30:07 AM
https://support.ubisoft.com/en-US/News/000056669/Ubisoft-Forward-Rewards

edit: and for the three of us who wanted Rocksmith news: https://theriffrepeater.com/phase-three-ubisoft-job-reveal-possible-future-of-rocksmith-vocals-india-japan/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 15, 2020, 10:58:12 AM
Wrong post


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on July 15, 2020, 12:47:39 PM
Ghost of Tsushima is rating pretty decently overall so far - seems a bit derivative akin to Assassin's Creed: Japan, but overall good/great. It's on a short list of games I've been looking forward to, so probably going to snag it tomorrow night.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on July 15, 2020, 01:08:23 PM
It's a Sucker Punch game. Sounds like other Sucker Punch games, but with samurai that dabble in ninja. I'm sold. I thought the Infamous games were a lot of fun if a bit repetitive at times.

Giant Bomb seemed a bit mixed on it, but they kind of just sounded like old cranky assholes while talking about it. ACG loved it and seemed to play a lot of it due to review copies going out very early (which is odd considering the most anyone on Giant Bomb played seemed to be around 8 hours). Reviews seem similar to what all of their other games get. Opinions on the combat seem to be all over the place.

I'll probably buy this and put off getting TLOU2 for another day. I'm not quite ready to be horribly depressed due to a video game yet. I need a game with some visceral action, because PoE and Persona 5R don't really provide that fix.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on July 15, 2020, 01:20:17 PM
Sounds like a solid "8" game. Combat is good, art direction is amazing, story/dialog is meh, open world is so-so. I might wait, though, to play on PS5.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on July 15, 2020, 01:36:40 PM
If I had an confidence that I'll be able to convince my wife within a year of PS5 release, sure. If we're still in quarantine, the probability rises.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 16, 2020, 07:07:19 AM
I was watching the Digital Foundry review (which tends to be more about the engine) and kept getting annoyed about how bad the particles looked. They were clearly not being rendered in the same lighting and disappearing randomly right in front of you. For snow, I could kinda see that working, but for leaves it's a little thing that is really jarring to me.

Also, apparently trees in Japan have a billion leaves.

Leaves. So many leaves. A leaf-based economy in full inflation meltdown.

Gameplay look ok, but the main thing that appealed to me was the flute. So I'll be holding off on it until PS5.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on July 16, 2020, 10:03:29 PM
I have enjoyed the first hour so far. I should have waited for PS5 only because it makes my PS4 non-pro sound like a jet engine. I'm going to have to find a way to cool it or something.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on July 17, 2020, 08:11:40 AM
It's a Sucker Punch game. Sounds like other Sucker Punch games, but with samurai that dabble in ninja. I'm sold. I thought the Infamous games were a lot of fun if a bit repetitive at times.

Giant Bomb seemed a bit mixed on it, but they kind of just sounded like old cranky assholes while talking about it. ACG loved it and seemed to play a lot of it due to review copies going out very early (which is odd considering the most anyone on Giant Bomb played seemed to be around 8 hours). Reviews seem similar to what all of their other games get. Opinions on the combat seem to be all over the place.

I'll probably buy this and put off getting TLOU2 for another day. I'm not quite ready to be horribly depressed due to a video game yet. I need a game with some visceral action, because PoE and Persona 5R don't really provide that fix.

The guys on the Bombcast and the Beastcast have compared it to the earlier Assassin's Creed games as far as the open world stuff goes. I used to love those games, but don't think I'm interested in going back to that sort of thing now. If there's some sort of PSN holiday sale around the time the PS5 drops (depending on how much one of those will cost), that might be the scenario where it give it a chance.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 20, 2020, 09:43:55 AM
Atlus just announced that Shin Megami Tensei 5 will be out in 2021 with a new trailer. Finally. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwbmYfsrGfU

But what's MORE important is that they announced the HD version of Shin Megami Tensei 3 Nocturne for Switch and PS4! This is the second best piece of gaming news I've ever heard after the remake of Demon's Souls. And it's pretty much up there.

Here's a trailer for SMT3 too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f82xMoxZmFM


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on August 13, 2020, 10:41:33 AM
Total War fans, mark August 13th on your calendars. SEGA is giving away the upcoming Total War: Troy FOR FREE! for the first 24 hours of the game's release.

Oh, and the giveaway is on the Epic Store and the game will be an exclusive there for the first year...
For free today on the Epic Game store.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Surlyboi on August 14, 2020, 07:34:53 AM
Sounds like a solid "8" game. Combat is good, art direction is amazing, story/dialog is meh, open world is so-so. I might wait, though, to play on PS5.


I like it a lot, but then I haven't played any of the Assassins Creed or Infamous games so the gameplay isn't quite so derivative for me.

That said, play it in Kurosawa mode with the Japanese dialogue. It's awesome.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Tale on August 19, 2020, 09:26:26 PM
Just read a glowing review of Half Life: Alyx on Steam, which ended "looking forward to the next instalment in 2050" and I laughed.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on August 20, 2020, 10:07:29 PM
https://twitter.com/jeff_tanton/status/1296494780998922240?s=21

A great breakdown of the pitch and build for Fall Guys, which happens to be kinda fun for 20min a night.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: 01101010 on August 21, 2020, 05:13:17 AM
https://twitter.com/jeff_tanton/status/1296494780998922240?s=21

A great breakdown of the pitch and build for Fall Guys, which happens to be kinda fun for 20min a night.

Played this for half a round and deleted off my PS4. Worse than games on my iPhone. My opinion obviously.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on August 22, 2020, 03:08:45 PM
Amazon's New World is having a stress test event next Tuesday. Invites went out. Check your spam folders.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rattran on August 23, 2020, 07:02:53 AM
I'm sure my invite will arrive just like last time, halfway through the test, so not even time to download it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on August 28, 2020, 05:22:27 PM
Wasteòand 3 is out and it is AMAZING. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXeHwhLPKz8)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on August 28, 2020, 08:04:19 PM
Is the writing less juvenile than Wasteland 2? It really felt like a bunch of 16-year olds trying to do Fallout in Wasteland 2.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on August 28, 2020, 11:03:43 PM
You do know that Fallout 1 was actually the original Wasteland 2 but it got a new name due to rights restrictions, right? I understand Wasteland 2's writing didn't work for you but it's not trying to be Fallout, it IS Fallout (it's actually Fallout that it is, indeed, Wasteland).

Anyway, no if you didn't like Wasteland 2 you are probably not gonna like Wasteland 3, even though it seems to have improved over its predecessor in every way.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on August 29, 2020, 06:17:06 AM
Wasteland 2 is NOT Fallout, ok? Different mechanics and definitely a different sense of character and narrative and dialogue.

Don't teach your grandmother to suck eggs--I played Wasteland when it first came out and Fallout when it first came out. Wasteland 2 has a genre connection to Fallout and a complicated sideways "cousin" connection due to the intertwining of people involved in both series and a long-ago quasi-corporate connection.

Wasteland the original was indeed the first in some sense in the Fallout *series*. That's Wasteland the original game, not Wasteland 2. And it was called Fallout as you say because they couldn't get the rights to the Wasteland name. Though there was also another sequel to Wasteland that most people didn't play because it was really shitty and nobody involved in making the original Wasteland was involved in it.

Let's go over this again. There was a game a long time ago called Wasteland. It was good. It had a shitty sequel than none of the people who made Wasteland made and a "spiritual sequel" called Fallout that was a *different game* than Wasteland not just in the story and writing but in the game mechanics. This led to a series of games that had their own distinct sense of humor, their own distinctive mechanics, etc.

Then one of the people who'd been involved in the making of the original Wasteland got the rights, many years later, to the Wasteland name and did a crowdfunded *sequel* to Wasteland that was a new game. It was not a renamed Fallout, and frankly it wasn't all that much like the original Wasteland.

That is the game I was referring to, that has writing I didn't care for, that was an original game created in 2013.

You can just say "It's a lot like Wasteland 2, so if you didn't like it, you won't like this."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: lamaros on August 29, 2020, 08:08:45 AM
It might end up being an ok game, but based on my limited experience playing so far the writing and voice acting is fairly poor.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goumindong on September 02, 2020, 10:06:35 AM
Wasteland 3 is mechanically very to pretty good. It has a log of UI advances that should be in every party based RPG going forward and generally makes combat feel like a thing you make decisions in rather than a slog. The most notable are shared inventory(and no inventory weight) as well as simultaneous enemy turns.


It has a bit of issues with the "well now you're in combat in the open because we kind of forced you into this dialogue and everyone else gets to go first" thing that happens a lot in RPG's. The writing is... not bad. And there are a few nice touches in world building. I have run into a few forced dichotomies so far and there are times when you're not given exits for things you should be given exits for.

The writing is neither subtle nor subdued and runs a bit heavy on the wackiness of the wasteland.

I haven't finished it so, no clue on whether or not you get the obvious catharsis and how things end up in general.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on September 02, 2020, 10:57:29 AM
It's interesting. Early combat balance is a bit wonky, especially when you take into account what Goum mentions. You can get your team absolutely assblasted during the start of combat if it initiated from dialogue. The tutorial mission was OK, and the encounter at the end was funny when paired with the song choice.

Writing is juvenile and stupid. Voice acting is OK to really awful. There are some voice standouts, especially where they have some fun with it. Advancing dialogue is a bit weird in that you have to click on the speech bubbles. Umm.. maybe there's a less annoying way of doing it, but that seems like an odd choice.

It feels better than 2, it's still ugly, but not quite as bad. I would not pay $60 for this game. I'm playing it on gamepass, so I don't feel bad about it. This is maybe a $40 game at best.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: RhyssaFireheart on September 02, 2020, 11:50:17 AM
Not entirely sure where this would go, but is it weird that when I came across my CDs and boxes for old games - Asheron's Call, DAoC, Shadowbane - I'm oddly reluctant to get rid of them?  Other than sentiment, there's no value in keeping this stuff but I find myself not wanting to throw it away.  Nostalgia, perhaps?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on September 02, 2020, 12:53:57 PM
Not entirely sure where this would go, but is it weird that when I came across my CDs and boxes for old games - Asheron's Call, DAoC, Shadowbane - I'm oddly reluctant to get rid of them?  Other than sentiment, there's no value in keeping this stuff but I find myself not wanting to throw it away.  Nostalgia, perhaps?

Might as well own your hobbies and make decorations out of them. Do something to preserve them (frames? shadowboxes?) and slap em proudly on a the wall or shelf!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on September 02, 2020, 01:01:08 PM
Not entirely sure where this would go, but is it weird that when I came across my CDs and boxes for old games - Asheron's Call, DAoC, Shadowbane - I'm oddly reluctant to get rid of them?  Other than sentiment, there's no value in keeping this stuff but I find myself not wanting to throw it away.  Nostalgia, perhaps?

Seems normal to me, I have two CD racks full of old games.  I used to have a whole wall or two of game boxes, but over the course of a few moves it's been whittled down to one moving box with a few of my favorite games (Mechwarrior, Thief, etc.) or impressive boxes (collectors editions and so on).

I dunno, I just don't like throwing away media in general.  Game cartridges, too, I keep, and DVDs and books (so I still have junk I was reading in Elementary school).  Magnetic media tends not to last, though, tossed my floppies years ago and most of my VHS collection due to corruption.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: RhyssaFireheart on September 02, 2020, 01:19:42 PM
Okay, well nice to know I'm not the only person who does this.  Maybe I'll see if I can fit all the CDs and such for a game into one box and save them that way, rather than multiple boxes of a game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: 01101010 on September 02, 2020, 03:25:18 PM
Not entirely sure where this would go, but is it weird that when I came across my CDs and boxes for old games - Asheron's Call, DAoC, Shadowbane - I'm oddly reluctant to get rid of them?  Other than sentiment, there's no value in keeping this stuff but I find myself not wanting to throw it away.  Nostalgia, perhaps?

Strange coincidence topic. The wife and I are packing up our place since we are moving in a few weeks and she keeps finding all my old PC games that I have held onto. Saturday she found my original Planetside discs and I sat there stunned at the wave of nostalgia swelling up - that was the first true online game I played and with the same group of guys for 4 straight months before the wheels fell off. Asked if she should pack in in the box or take it with us in the truck... didn't even approach the idea of throwing them out since she remembered me rambling on about the game. She also found my original FFXI and WoW discs.

I like the idea of framing them and hanging them in a gaming room or something. Definitely going to look into it once we get settled.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on September 02, 2020, 03:57:03 PM
Heh, I just threw away all of that garbage. They're probably sitting in a landfill next to my old VHS tapes.  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Framing is expensive and garage space is limited. Nostalgia didn't enter much into it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Count Nerfedalot on September 02, 2020, 09:26:00 PM
I've built walls of shelves in my two-car garage (which has never had a car in it), and filled them to overflowing, but am now finally starting to throw stuff away.  I still haven't gotten around to throwing out old computer games yet, though at some point I did toss/lose/destroy a lot of the boxes so a lot of it is stacks and boxes and piles of loose CDs and disks and manuals and maps and junk.  I sadly even still have my Atari 800XL and Atari ST boxed up with a large box of games for each.  I don't think I've even tried to turn either one on this century. :/  I blame my genes. My Grandma was a hoarder and my Father had similar tendencies.  I'm slowly but surely getting better.  And I haven't bought any more physical media in a couple of years, and at most just a couple movies and one music CD in the several years before that.  Small steps rather than twelve steps.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on September 03, 2020, 05:31:38 AM
I found a big stash of old maps and manuals. I actually rather like having those.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on September 03, 2020, 06:35:19 AM
I kept a handful of old strategy guides for games I liked, even if I don't have the games anymore.  I find those and the old instruction manuals that are packed with stories and lore much harder to throw away than the games themselves.  I'm looking at a hardcover copy of the Book of Nod that shipped with Vampire: The Masquerade - Redemption and it's sad that something like that will likely never happen again.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on September 03, 2020, 07:36:52 AM
I threw out about half of my old stash of boxes and media a few years ago when I cleaned out the closet they landed in when I moved into my house (since I haven't really bought much physical media other than music since). The rest are ready to go in my current studio reorganization, they were in the back of the closet in there.

I used to feel like there was a reason to keep that kind of stuff back before I had a small house. I do recommend small houses, not just for the low cost of living, but it sharpens the mind and demands you make choices about what you bring into your space.

Books are the hard thing for me. I know I will absolutely need that book on ring making or the one on Victorian fashion. They've both survived multiple purges, which I find entertaining.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 16, 2020, 01:59:52 PM
PlayStation 5 Showcase (full event): https://www.youtube.com/embed/tjji8NEW9lo (open in new tab/window, embed doesn't work with JS popup)

...and the only segment that matters to 99.99% of you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdCqTIujeoc

November 12th, $499/$399, as expected.

Oh and (God of War) Ragnarök in 2021 (I assume that means Christmas).

Edit: um, Sony took down their DS trailer for some reason, replaced with GameSpot version

Edit 2: The “also available on PC” fine print is apparently “a mistake” so Sony took down their version. A “mistake” as in it does run on the PC but it’ll be a PS5 exclusive until Sony says otherwise.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on September 16, 2020, 04:34:58 PM
825GB SSD on that thing seems a bit light. There's a few PS4 games over the 100GB mark, with most around 60GB.

I can't believe I'm actually thinking of waiting until next year.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 16, 2020, 05:33:47 PM
There’s an empty internal slot for an NVMe drive.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on September 16, 2020, 06:36:17 PM
Chances are good that I won't bite the bullet on the PS5 until next year no matter what because I won't want to drop that much money at once when there aren't a lot of games out and because it'll be next to impossible to get if past releases are any indication. They had supply issues with the PS3 and PS4 the Christmas those got released and we weren't in the middle of a pandemic then. When Demon's Souls get released and/or a Persona/SMT game comes out, then it will be time.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on September 16, 2020, 07:13:47 PM
Demon’s Souls is a launch title.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on September 16, 2020, 09:11:26 PM
Well, fuck.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on September 16, 2020, 09:52:28 PM
Demon’s Souls is a launch title.  :awesome_for_real:

Wut.

And here I was thinking that I didn't need to jump on a PS5 in the early days.  I still probably won't, but this makes it much harder.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: SurfD on September 16, 2020, 10:10:46 PM
will probably do what I always do:  Wait for the first Hardware Revision, then snap one up on a bundle deal somewhere.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on September 16, 2020, 10:16:08 PM
Sony advertised the preorders as starting at retailers on the 17th, then Best Buy, Walmart, and Target all did their preorders on the 16th instead. Amazon at least waited until midnight on the east coast I think. Best Buy's site was fucked essentially offering Schrodinger's pre-order, neither purchasable nor sold out for several hours. You could put it in your cart. You could sometimes get to the checkout but for hours this went on with most people being unable to complete the transaction. Walmart canceled some pre-orders. Gamestop of course sold everything in bundles with shit nobody actually wanted like Destruction All Stars (which with increase next-gen prices is $70). Some people who signed up for the Sony direct pre-orders got their email notices throughout the night.

I half-heartedly attempted various methods of getting it despite the fact that the only announced game I'm really excited for is a PS3 remake of a game I've beaten a half dozen times. As I noted on Discord the pre-orders were originally scheduled to start tomorrow which is the same day the Nvidia 3080s are supposed to be available. I'm almost tempted to just invest in one of those now instead.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on September 17, 2020, 09:45:44 AM
I predict the only place to get a PS5 on Nov. 12th if you haven't already pre-ordered will be Ebay.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 17, 2020, 10:16:27 AM
November 19 2020 headline: Global rise in COVID-19 cases attributed to people standing in lines to purchase the PlayStation 5 because Sony did not make enough available for preorder


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on September 21, 2020, 09:08:52 AM
Microsoft bought Bethesda's parent company. So, yah, that's a thing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 21, 2020, 09:35:38 AM
Yeah, it’s an interesting attempt by Microsoft to try and keep the Xbox relevant still. Too bad they did it after Todd Howard turned Bethesda into a joke.

https://news.microsoft.com/2020/09/21/microsoft-to-acquire-zenimax-media-and-its-game-publisher-bethesda-softworks/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on September 21, 2020, 02:10:36 PM
Yeah, it’s an interesting attempt by Microsoft to try and keep the Xbox relevant still. Too bad they did it after Todd Howard turned Bethesda into a joke.

https://news.microsoft.com/2020/09/21/microsoft-to-acquire-zenimax-media-and-its-game-publisher-bethesda-softworks/

How did Todd Howard ruin Bethesda other than FO76? I'm just as excited for TES 6 as I was for Skyrim and will probably play their space game too if that ever comes out.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on September 21, 2020, 02:18:30 PM
Well, if you like playing Skyrim on your fridge, he's been a boon. Personally, I got sick of Skyrim early in Obama's second term.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on September 21, 2020, 02:31:47 PM
Skyrim's in my top 5 games of all time, so I can't really be mad about that. It'd be cool if we got TES 6 sooner, but I'm not going to hate on a studio for not rushing out mediocrity.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on September 22, 2020, 02:26:11 AM
Does it mean Xbox exclusivity for Bethesda titles?  If so, then that is the end of good Bethesda game as far as I am concerned.  If not, then who gives a fuck.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 22, 2020, 08:24:56 AM
Xbox and PC exclusives, presumably.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on September 22, 2020, 08:28:54 AM
Does it mean Xbox exclusivity for Bethesda titles?  If so, then that is the end of good Bethesda game as far as I am concerned.  If not, then who gives a fuck.
I don't see them taking it off Windows, but it may be a timed exclusive or something. Don't worry, you'll have 20 years to try new versions (I'm also a bit over the time spent porting it to refrigerators). The way they've been milking Skyrim, we may only see a single release from the company in the next ten years, so who cares.

I'd say beyond the weird obsession with releasing new versions of Skyrim, trying to grow beyond working on a single rpg at a time was what impacted Bethsoft the hardest. Growing the company to be more than a simple development house, making a launcher and supporting a ton of teams...just not the kind of thing I'm too keen on.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on September 22, 2020, 08:32:34 AM
You'd think that whomever owns the IP, they'd learn that putting the time in to making a genuine open-world RPG like Skyrim pays off.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on September 22, 2020, 09:12:05 AM
They've already said that games which were showcased in the PS5 presentation are still in development (Ghost something and something else). I just imagine there may be timed exclusivity on XBox Game Pass or early releases and such.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on October 01, 2020, 11:19:40 AM
X-Wing vs Tie Fighter 2 Star Wars: Squadrons being released on Steam in 3 hours. Hype.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on October 01, 2020, 11:37:12 AM
X-Wing vs Tie Fighter 2 Star Wars: Squadrons being released on Steam in 3 hours. Hype.

Oh shiiiiiiiiiit.  I totally forgot.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on October 01, 2020, 11:54:45 AM
First opinions are mixed, but it seems like it's great in VR. Built with that in mind. Makes me want to get a VR helmet real bad.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on October 01, 2020, 10:04:29 PM
I am reading some concering stuff about performance, but it sounds like some of this likely to get patched.  More concerning is the apparent locked in use of TAA, which is pretty garbage in VR.  Having no AA is better than TAA.

On the other hand, I suppose playing it in pancake mode is always an option.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on October 07, 2020, 12:17:49 PM
PS5 teardown (video has CCs):

https://blog.playstation.com/2020/10/07/ps5-teardown-an-inside-look-at-our-most-transformative-console-yet/




Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kageru on October 24, 2020, 07:14:57 PM

I'd like to have supported steams "gameFest" idea, but the entire concept of board games on computer is problematic. Having abstract mechanics is less important when the game can be automated, and the short game play time is suited towards a social experience. If you loved the analogue game and wanted a computer version it makes sense. Outside of that... not so much.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bokonon on October 30, 2020, 07:32:35 AM
Will probably go nowhere, but they do have some backing from Riot Games, and you get a free 5e setting + adventure book  no matter what:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/wagadu/the-wagadu-chronicles

(Afrofantasy RP-focused MMO project by a small team in Germany)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on November 13, 2020, 06:57:51 AM
In the mood for that sweet GTA IV talk radio?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uOc5YOQSlY


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on November 23, 2020, 10:05:11 AM
PS5 runs half its memory very hot. Gamers Nexus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmggkW6usmQ

May explain some of the crashing people are getting with their shiny new PS5s. A lot of the crashes seem to be after the 10 minute mark which also happens to be when the components heat up to close to their max steady state in-game temperatures. Try running without both covers/sidepanels on if that's happening to you.

Edit: steady


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on November 23, 2020, 01:05:48 PM
That cooling design seemed...bad. Engineers, man.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on November 25, 2020, 05:21:34 AM
More on the wholesale bot buying and reselling problem: https://www.businessinsider.in/tech/news/one-reseller-group-snagged-nearly-3500-playstation-5-consoles-and-the-resale-market-might-be-the-only-place-to-score-one-after-it-sold-out-everywhere-online/amp_articleshow/79342494.cms

I can't believe people are actually buying from these crooks capitalists.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on November 25, 2020, 06:12:09 AM
They've controlled the Switch market for more than a year and no legitimate retailer nor any company seems to care.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on November 25, 2020, 08:58:15 AM
I wish I could just throw my order directly at Sony and tell them to ship when they get one. Rather not have it go through anyone else's hands.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on November 25, 2020, 10:19:46 PM
At this point, I am basically just pretending PS5 isn't even a thing.  So few have them produced in comparison to the demand that it doesn't deserve the attention it is getting.  This false scarcity bullshit doesn't work on me any more.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on November 25, 2020, 11:54:36 PM
Under the circumstances, and from what they've said about how well it's selling, I have a hard time believing in any false scarcity narrative. I'm pretty sure they're putting as many PS5s out there as they possibly can. That said, anybody who waits a while and gets one sometime next year isn't missing out on all that much.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on November 26, 2020, 12:28:14 AM
I have no doubt there are a lot of factors.  Covid related shortages, for example.  But when an environment exists that allows the Bot/Scalper market to thrive and your company actively ignores it, it creates the conditions for this false scarcity and accomplishes exactly the same thing.  They are thrilled about it, you can be sure.  It's not like they didn't know the demand was going to be crazy.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on November 26, 2020, 05:15:57 AM
I'm pretty sure if sony could snap their fingers and dump 50m on the market at launch they would have. They know longtime sony fans are well into their 30s and 40s now and don't want to play this particular game.

They have zero real control over the scalper market. That's on the retailers unfortunately.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on November 26, 2020, 05:58:10 AM
Of course they would.  That doesn't mean they aren't totally fine with the situation that is created in the absence of their ability to produce enough units.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on November 26, 2020, 09:03:11 AM
This is squarely on the heads of the retailers. That they have gone through at least 2 iterations of this same scenario around console releases and still have not figured out some way to kneecap the bot scalpers tells me that not only do they not give a shit, they don't feel the slightest bit inclined to give a shit. Testing and development costs money. They'll get their sales whether it's from some asshole bot Ebay cunt in West Arkantucky or an actual gamer in Philly.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on November 26, 2020, 09:22:03 AM
Amazon, to its credit is doing what it can to keep the scalpers from reselling through its marketplace. There was a brief period where scalpers had listings on the two “official” PS5 console pages and Amazon squashed those. Then they tried creating new product pages and Amazon killed those too. eBay, of course, gives zero fucks and let’s the scalpers run rampant on there.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kageru on November 26, 2020, 12:38:29 PM
I'm not surprised one of those photo's (in the reseller group article) has a running shoe. I was reading an article on how there is now a shoe economy of limited production and thriving secondary market... I remember the old days where you just bought a product to use it up. Though in theory the PS5 will be built at scale and is not limited edition so it should eventually become available again, though I guess given those plastic sidings you could have an endless sequence of special editions if they wanted to lean into it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on November 26, 2020, 12:53:38 PM
Pretty sure the shoe economy is not a recent thing. Hell, Jordans have been around since the 80s and I know they've had limited editions over the years that go for a lot of money on secondary markets. As it's a fashion thing though I were defer to schild's knowledge on this one.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Morat20 on November 26, 2020, 05:28:38 PM
Under the circumstances, and from what they've said about how well it's selling, I have a hard time believing in any false scarcity narrative. I'm pretty sure they're putting as many PS5s out there as they possibly can. That said, anybody who waits a while and gets one sometime next year isn't missing out on all that much.
I figured I'd wait until spring. First, be easier to get one. Second, they'd have worked out any issues with the first few production runs.

I'd rather have the ones with the fixed hardware bugs.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on November 26, 2020, 06:12:19 PM
Yeah after watching the Gamers Nexus video I’m waiting for the hardware revision that includes a heat pipe for the other memory chips and a larger stacked fin heat sink on the reverse side of that plate to deal with the extra heat. A firmware update to increase the fan speed may help a little but as GN showed with the covers off at best that’ll drop the hottest memory chips temps 5C from ~90C to ~85C if they really crank up the fan speed, and it’s not even clear if increasing the fan will help the other side of the board where the memory is.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Morat20 on November 26, 2020, 06:46:09 PM
Yeah after watching the Gamers Nexus video I’m waiting for the hardware revision that includes a heat pipe for the other memory chips and a larger stacked fin heat sink on the reverse side of that plate to deal with the extra heat. A firmware update to increase the fan speed may help a little but as GN showed with the covers off at best that’ll drop the hottest memory chips temps 5C from ~90C to ~85C if they really crank up the fan speed, and it’s not even clear if increasing the fan will help the other side of the board where the memory is.

Given the PS5 size, I also need to finally move my TV and soundbar to the wall, leaving plenty of room for consoles on top.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on November 26, 2020, 10:26:18 PM
Last night I measured the nook in our tv stand and it technically fits a PS5 but I think I would have to put few case fans at the back of it. Which seems absurd really.

After watching the cyberpunk PS4 vs PS5 video I was pretty sold on the upgrade, but ultimately I think I’m with Trippy - going to wait for a hardware revision and/or a slimmer model that looks more conservative for our space. The white blob is gaudy and dealing with heat issues in a small space just seems not with the hassle. Between all that and the reselling fiasco, I’m just going to hold.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on November 28, 2020, 10:02:54 AM
Making of the new Microsoft Flight Simulator, and how they put the entire planet in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w7q1ZFfsxs


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on December 08, 2020, 10:20:12 AM
The fandom and anti-fandom for TLOU2 is a bit much. Personally, I didn't care for it, but that is about as far as I'll go with my dislike outside of my official "fuck this game" after I was finished.

I make one small comment that's fairly buried in a Ghost of Tsushima thread on reddit (yah, I know, I got what I deserved) saying that an aspect of that game was better on a subjective level than something in TLOU2, and it touches off a minor shitstorm. Openly hostile replies, people going through my posting history and downvoting EVERYTHING, and just a ton of similar fanboyish responses. Plus, most of the responses seem to see what they want to see and are arguing a completely different point that what I was making.

I need to just never post on reddit and go back to full time lurking. The internet is a dumb and frustrating place.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 09, 2020, 07:06:32 AM
Reddit is the most useful pile of shit. I post about Rocksmith sometimes (the CLDC community is ok there, some of the good trackers post now and again). I made the mistake of trying to explain how much better the game would be if they included actual tabs in a 'pro' mode.

Got shouted down about not knowing what I'm talking about. Besides the fact that, well, I was kind of a pro for 6 years, heh...I also studied theory and application in school and have been sight reading classical guitar for over a decade (and did session work in the 90s, where they drop a score in front of you and off to the races you go). So I kind of understand reading and playing music, heh.

But no, I'm a fucking moron who can't understand the game is perfect and anyone who doesn't agree should be doused in gas and lit.

My favorite pile-on was suggesting Ubi reverse the default orientation for the in-game fretboard. The concept is you're supposed to be looking 'through' the neck as if it were transparent. So the fat, low E is on top and the skinny high E is on the bottom. Except that's backwards from every form of musical notation I've ever encountered. I made the mistake of pointing it out, and how it inculcates bad habits. Also, it alienates actual musicians who don't know you can reverse it (the entire notation style is pretty sucky, tbh; at the very least they NEED to put in an option to have numbers on all the note blocks, not just the first in a series, it's mind-numbingly dumb...said as someone who, again, sight reads classical music and usually gets 80-90% accuracy cold reading a new Iron Maiden song :D

Fuck the Internet in general. I'm over this 'all voices are equal' bullshit. In every arena. Experience and competency matters.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on December 09, 2020, 09:55:48 AM
My favorite pile-on was suggesting Ubi reverse the default orientation for the in-game fretboard. The concept is you're supposed to be looking 'through' the neck as if it were transparent. So the fat, low E is on top and the skinny high E is on the bottom. Except that's backwards from every form of musical notation I've ever encountered. I made the mistake of pointing it out, and how it inculcates bad habits. Also, it alienates actual musicians who don't know you can reverse it (the entire notation style is pretty sucky, tbh; at the very least they NEED to put in an option to have numbers on all the note blocks, not just the first in a series, it's mind-numbingly dumb...said as someone who, again, sight reads classical music and usually gets 80-90% accuracy cold reading a new Iron Maiden song :D
Most stable communities on the Internet will devolve into echo chambers eventually as those with strongly-held minority opinions get frustrated and leave. If the Rocksmith subreddit has decided that the through-the-neck view is the "one true way" to play Rocksmith, nothing you say is going to change the majority opinion. I'm one of the those that flipped the fretboard after my first try in Rocksmith cause I learned how to play guitar from tabs but lots of people have learned how to play the guitar, and well, from the default view in Rocksmith, so it's not like tab view is categorically better. It would've been nice if the game asked you up front whether or not you are familiar with guitar tabs and set the initial view based on that selection but it also wasn't hard to go look for the setting to switch things either, at least for me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on December 09, 2020, 12:49:10 PM
It's why I love r/AskHistorians. It's so tightly moderated and that produces some really good expert answers. Not without cost to the mods--one of the mods published a scholarly paper detailing the abuse they all receive every day in tidal torrents because they remove so many posts to the group. Basically it's about three kinds of abuse:

a) Why don't you just let me post my links to Wikipedia, TV Tropes, Atlas Obscura and my associated pontificating that pretends that I have expert knowledge that is 100 percent a restatement of what I just read on Wikipedia?
b) Why don't you just let me post what I have deduced through my own mighty intellect must be the true answer to this question about obscure historical information because I know what is reasonable and likely to be true?
c) Why don't you let me make my white supremacist/far-right/incel rant about the stupidity of an answer from an expert?

There's also the minor variant d) of "why aren't you letting me plagiarize an answer that an actual expert wrote to a previous version of this same question and instead just posting a link to the previous answer?"

And the abuse is enormous--brigading sometimes, sometimes an aggrieved user doxxes the mod and showers them with real-life abuse including phone calls, etc and so on. So the cost in terms of labor time and stress to providing a high-value expert forum is really serious. I suppose when we think about it that way, it always has been--I briefly worked with the op-ed editor at a major daily newspaper in the 1990s and he got maybe two hundred unsolicited submissions every week, most of them from cranks who then sent angry letters and pleas and even death threats if they weren't published. But he also spent no more than about fifteen seconds looking at the first paragraph of a slush pile submission and maybe considered seriously one in every three or four hundred submissions if it wasn't coming from a known quantity. He threw everything else out without a second thought and they insta-tossed most letters and correspondence freely too. The thing that was also different is that mostly people accepted that this was the way that it was--the cranks were a relative handful of seriously deranged people.

But I really hope that the next turn of our cultural wheel is the recreation of more curated and edited spaces. I'd pay for an intelligently curated Reddit where the signal-to-noise ratio was vastly higher but where the editorial philosophy was open-minded and wide-ranging.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on December 20, 2020, 07:05:20 AM
Stirring Abyss is the X-Com inspired game you didn't know about and needed in your collection. Get it.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1178210/Stirring_Abyss/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on December 24, 2020, 02:37:00 PM
Stirring Abyss is the X-Com inspired game you didn't know about and needed in your collection. Get it.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1178210/Stirring_Abyss/

Thanks for the heads up. I am enjoying everything about the game except for the Save system. Doesn't seem to be a mod out to allow unlimited saves, so I may be turning the difficulty down a lot, since my first attempt at play has resulted in the ship's cook being the sole survivor hiding within my mostly flooded ship.

Flooded so much it cannot rise to the surface, but not so much as to prevent it from ranging around the sea bottom. A very specific level of flooding indeed.

Edit: Nevermind about the save issue. I see you can access earlier saves from the intro menu.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on January 08, 2021, 09:58:25 AM
I download the demo and tried a bit of Monster Hunter: Rise. I just can't get past the control scheme. Fucking hell, it's bad.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on January 08, 2021, 11:08:05 AM
Stirring Abyss is the X-Com inspired game you didn't know about and needed in your collection. Get it.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1178210/Stirring_Abyss/
I've had it in my wishlist, the reviews seemed pretty mixed and I recall seeing a couple red flags in there (though I can't recall what they were).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on January 08, 2021, 12:00:14 PM
I download the demo and tried a bit of Monster Hunter: Rise. I just can't get past the control scheme. Fucking hell, it's bad.
If you think that's bad you should've tried playing MH 3/4 on a 3DS, sans-joystick attachment even :awesome_for_real: But seriously yes the controls feel weird, at least at first, but you can get used to it if you play it enough, and they do make sense after you realize all the things you need to be able to do in the game. I.e. the game controls aren't deliberately trying to be obtuse -- there are good reasons for the way they are setup. There's also a limited amount of control customization in the demo that might make some things easier.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on January 09, 2021, 01:04:43 AM
I download the demo and tried a bit of Monster Hunter: Rise. I just can't get past the control scheme. Fucking hell, it's bad.
If you think that's bad you should've tried playing MH 3/4 on a 3DS, sans-joystick attachment even :awesome_for_real: But seriously yes the controls feel weird, at least at first, but you can get used to it if you play it enough, and they do make sense after you realize all the things you need to be able to do in the game. I.e. the game controls aren't deliberately trying to be obtuse -- there are good reasons for the way they are setup. There's also a limited amount of control customization in the demo that might make some things easier.
It's been a while since I've played MH:W -- I never really got into Iceborne -- but I'm digging the Rise demo so far and it's fun being back in the MH universe. Definitely can see myself spending a few hundred hours in Rise.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on January 28, 2021, 05:20:34 PM
Not sure if this belongs in Politics or Serious Business but the whole thing with Reddit randos buying GameStop shares to fuck with hedge funds short selling the stock is pretty hilarious to me.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/reddit-gamestop-blackberry-1.5890039
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okQeFWYUIXc


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Count Nerfedalot on January 28, 2021, 07:47:26 PM
watching short sellers lose their shirts is something to cheer at least.  :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on January 29, 2021, 11:08:00 AM
We're discussing it in the Bury The Gold thread in Politics.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on January 29, 2021, 04:00:47 PM
I don’t really get the success of Among Us. It’s a bunch of basic mini games interrupted every few minutes by a bunch of people with bad and horribly clipping microphones who use discord to scream and shout all over each other. It’s like work Zoom calls turned into a video game.

and it’s currently the hottest game on twitch and YouTube and I have absolutely no idea why


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on January 29, 2021, 04:38:14 PM
I don’t really get the success of Among Us. It’s a bunch of basic mini games interrupted every few minutes by a bunch of people with bad and horribly clipping microphones who use discord to scream and shout all over each other. It’s like work Zoom calls turned into a video game.

and it’s currently the hottest game on twitch and YouTube and I have absolutely no idea why
It's way past the peak of its popularity (https://twitchtracker.com/games/510218) -- you are late by about 4 months.

It was popular because:

* It's a fun game to spectate when there's a good group of players playing if you like watching / listening to social interactions (see: Big Brother and a billion other "reality" TV shows)
* It let's players practice/flex their deductive reasoning skills (crew members)
* It let's players practice/flex their social engineering skills (imposters)
* It let's sociopaths and psychopaths be "paths" in a socially acceptable fashion (kidding, sort of)

The best moments for me are when it's down to 3 and the imposter manages to convince one of the crew to vote against the other.

Edit: reasoning


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on January 30, 2021, 05:47:17 AM
I get that, I think.

Most of the time I get so massively pissed of by the bad audio setups that I just have to leave.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on January 30, 2021, 10:50:17 AM
Yeah it takes work and some money to get good quality streaming audio. If you watch a stream where the streamer has good audio but all the randos have shitty headset or ear bud mics all with varying volume levels and quality it’s still going to suck. The larger streamers, though, often play with other larger streamers and they usually know what to do to get things more consistent. And then of course there’s often at least person playing who thinks to best way to win arguments is to shout the loudest, which is always pleasant to listen to.

Edit: still


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on January 30, 2021, 04:07:52 PM
I think the other thing about Among Us is it builds on a huge wave of teenagers playing Werewolf, Mafia and variants thereof both offline and online over the last ten years and adds some fun little twists to the basic gameplay structure.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 22, 2021, 09:29:27 AM
Looks like the drift problem on PS5 controllers is a part flaw that should affect most or all controllers and is not an easy fix.

https://www.nme.com/news/gaming-news/ps5-dualsense-controller-has-417-hour-lifespan-according-to-new-tests-2885864


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on February 22, 2021, 09:44:01 AM
That doesn’t actually tell us why the PS5 controllers seem to be having more drift issues than the PS4 controller if they are using the same ALPS joystick module. I’ve broken plenty of buttons on PS3/PS4 controllers but never caused any sticks to drift even though I’m the kind of ham-fisted player who will unintentionally hold one or both sticks in when the action gets intense. There’s something else about the PS5 controller, perhaps related to either the haptic hardware directly or internal design compromises made to fit all that inside the controller that’s making the drifting more likely.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on February 22, 2021, 09:50:37 AM
Well the good news is that PS5 controllers practically grow on trees, whilst their parent consoles are still as common as bigfoot.

Seriously, how is that even a thing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 22, 2021, 09:53:34 AM
I had to replace my PS4 controller last week, finally the rubber boot on top of the left thumbstick took a walk. I blame Myles Garrett (trying to shed blocks in Madden).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on February 22, 2021, 10:07:44 AM
Basically iFixit needs to do a comparison of the DualShock 4 and the DualSense sticks to see if there are differences in the joystick setups. iFixit has repair guides for the DualShock 4 sticks but it's hard to tell from the limited pictures if there are significant differences between the two.

Also here's the actual iFixit article: https://www.ifixit.com/News/48944/heres-why-ps5-joysticks-drift-and-why-theyll-only-get-worse


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: 01101010 on February 22, 2021, 04:00:10 PM
Well the good news is that PS5 controllers practically grow on trees, whilst their parent consoles are still as common as bigfoot.

Seriously, how is that even a thing.

Chip shortage I assume.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on February 23, 2021, 03:15:08 AM
Well the good news is that PS5 controllers practically grow on trees, whilst their parent consoles are still as common as bigfoot.

Seriously, how is that even a thing.

Chip shortage I assume.



I mean, obviously something like that.  But that doesn’t stop me from seeing PS5 controllers advertised everywhere.  Who is buying them?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on March 23, 2021, 10:32:26 PM
Magic: Legends is in Open Beta. It's MtG in ARPG form. Yes that sounds bad. And the game is actually even worse than it sounds. Avoid.

But if you want to try it for free it's available either through Perfect World's Arc Games launcher or the store than shall not be named.

https://www.playmagiclegends.com/en

For some lulz you can check out the subreddit: https://old.reddit.com/r/MagicLegends/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on March 24, 2021, 10:15:06 AM
Ohh, an arpg, that's why all of the PoE streamers were playing it yesterday. I just saw "Magic:....." and didn't bother clicking on a single one.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Draegan on March 24, 2021, 06:21:41 PM
I tried the game in a closed beta a few months and it's super awful.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 15, 2021, 08:13:02 AM
Oh, man. Nice! Days Gone for PC launches May 18! Love that game.

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1259420/view/3110273656390747940

Between HZD and this...the PS5 has definitely fallen far in my priority list vs trying to get a 30-series-based PC going SOMEDAY SOMEHOW.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on April 15, 2021, 09:53:40 AM
There’s been a dearth of good PS5 exclusives post-launch. I wanted to get one at launch for Demon’s Souls but didn’t preorder one so that never happened. And then the hardware issue reports started coming in. Now I’m waiting for a release date for Horizon Forbidden West and news of any hardware revisions before attempting to purchase one.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 15, 2021, 09:56:38 AM
There’s been a dearth of good PS5 exclusives post-launch. I wanted to get one at launch for Demon’s Souls but didn’t preorder one so that never happened. And then the hardware issue reports started coming in. Now I’m waiting for a release date for Horizon Forbidden West and news of any hardware revisions before attempting to purchase one.

Same. I don't know what Sony is thinking, letting exclusives launch on pc...but I like it!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on April 15, 2021, 05:35:58 PM
There was a dustup between Sony and the studio that did Days Gone. I don't know particulars, but I think Sony wasn't happy with the direction of Days Gone 2 and they may have shifted away from them. I don't know the whole story though, so grain of salt.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on April 15, 2021, 05:48:47 PM
This is different. Sony released Horizon Zero Dawn for the PC fall of last year and despite having lots of technical issues, presumably sold well enough that Sony is now fine with releasing some subset of their former exclusive for the PC a few years after their PS4 releases. They also presumably had good insight on how former PlayStation exclusives made by third parties like Death Stranding and Detroit: Become Human had been doing on the PC to see they were leaving some money on the table by not making (some) exclusives available on the PC after they had basically maxed out their sales on the PS4.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on April 16, 2021, 10:28:56 AM
Days Gone is something I will probably have to pickup on PC, not sure about full price, though.  More waiting on Ghosts of Tsushima.  I refuse to play either of these on PS4, and PS5s seem to be at least a half a year away from being actual consumer products.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 16, 2021, 11:26:04 AM
My plan is to try and hold out for a sale before getting DG...but it will likely be the first time it's discounted. I friggin love that game. Glad I decided not to immediately play the NG+ on PS4. I'll be playing through this one again, and I'm really looking forward to cranking the graphics!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on April 18, 2021, 06:20:54 PM
On the Steam store HZ:D skipped the Fall sale and was first discounted (20%) during the Winter sale -- i.e. Sony was in no hurry to discount the game. Your best bet is likely, if Epic Games has a $10 coupon sale soon, to get the game on EGS and use the coupon on that game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 19, 2021, 09:52:19 AM
Days Gone 2 has been cancelled (technically, since it was never announced officially, I guess): https://www.gameinformer.com/2021/04/12/days-gone-2-details-revealed-by-games-director-including-a-shared-universe-with-co-op

If they were going to make it a multiplayer-first title, I guess I'm ok with it. The game really didn't need that, and I don't see how it would've improved things at all. So I'm bummed to not get a sequel, but that's tempered with the aforementioned shift in focus.

Also yet another reason that I'm happy I didn't get a PS5, DG2 would've been a prime motivator for me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: SurfD on April 19, 2021, 08:25:46 PM
On the Steam store HZ:D skipped the Fall sale and was first discounted (20%) during the Winter sale -- i.e. Sony was in no hurry to discount the game. Your best bet is likely, if Epic Games has a $10 coupon sale soon, to get the game on EGS and use the coupon on that game.

If you have a PS4 / PS5, you might be interested to know:
https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/19/22392094/horizon-zero-dawn-free-ps4-ps5-playstation-sony


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on April 24, 2021, 08:35:10 PM
I downloaded the Horizon Zero Dawn complete edition on the PS4 for free and holy shit is it a gorgeous game. Not sure about the gameplay yet, but just on graphics, it is stunning.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on April 24, 2021, 09:28:07 PM
I downloaded the Horizon Zero Dawn complete edition on the PS4 for free and holy shit is it a gorgeous game. Not sure about the gameplay yet, but just on graphics, it is stunning.

It's my only platinum trophy on PSN. For about 6-8 weeks I fell pretty deeply into that world. I've tried a few times to go back and can't find the desire once I load it up.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 24, 2021, 09:40:22 PM
It's probably my favorite game on the playstation, though my experience is more limited on there than most. I dig the openish world stalking parts, the story is amazing, the world is beautiful, and it's good at continuing to keep all those elements fresh as the game progresses.

I will likely buy it on steam to play on the new pc.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Count Nerfedalot on April 25, 2021, 10:52:09 AM
I'm an old school mouse and keyboard gamer, set in my fossilized ways. Few console games have ever caught my interest for long, and fewer still that are available for both console and PC. But HZD was awesome, and the controller controls fit it perfectly. I honestly can't imagine it feeling as fluid and natural with M&K.  Would love to hear how that feels to those who try both.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on April 25, 2021, 02:21:24 PM
HZ:D was a DualShock 4 controller-exclusive game so yes the controls were perfectly matched to that controller. But the game is still a LOLconsoleshooter and there were plenty of times when I was playing on the PS4 that I wished I had a mouse to aim so I could hit some specific part on a machine. The game even concedes that aiming can be difficult by putting in a bullet time mechanic to help you out. I have it on the PC but haven’t played it yet cause it was broken on release. It’s a bit better now, apparently, after the patch in January but still is somewhat janky. I was going to wait till I built my 4K rig to play on PC but that may not happen now before Horizon Forbidden West comes out and I do want to replay HZ:D before then.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on April 25, 2021, 04:13:19 PM
and there were plenty of times when I was playing on the PS4 that I wished I had a mouse to aim

Exactly this. Fantastic game, one of the best, and somehow less painful than usual to aim ranged stuff with a controller, but damn it would have been even better with mouse aiming.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on April 25, 2021, 05:01:12 PM
I could never get over the hump with HZD on my console but boy howdy did I take to it on a PC. Really enjoyed it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Tale on April 25, 2021, 05:39:42 PM
I could never get over the hump with HZD on my console but boy howdy did I take to it on a PC. Really enjoyed it.

That's good news to me. I bought it with my PS4 Pro and it's indeed lovely, but I didn't take to the controls and wished for a mouse. After a break, I couldn't remember how to play and I didn't want to restart to learn, so that was that. I'll buy it on Steam in a sale sometime.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 26, 2021, 06:33:33 AM
there were plenty of times when I was playing on the PS4 that I wished I had a mouse to aim so I could hit some specific part on a machine.

I play GTA 99% with a controller on PC...but in those (thankfully) rare 'precision shooting on a timer' sections, it's nice to have a mouse to cut through the bullshit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on April 26, 2021, 12:43:29 PM
I could never get over the hump with HZD on my console but boy howdy did I take to it on a PC. Really enjoyed it.


It took a long time before I was comfortable with the combat on console. I eventually got to the point where I wasn't taking massive amounts of damage in most encounters, but I'm sure part of that was just having way better armor in the end. The robo-trex and death mechs would have been a lot easier if I could quickly hit their weak points, but I was most getting them in the later stages of the game. Early to mid game was just a lot of failure, some of that was due to the restrictive areas you can fight some of these encounters in and the open world aspect meant you were doing it far too early in some situations.

I really don't want to buy a PS5 (or try to buy a PS5) right now. Forbidden West will have to wait.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on April 26, 2021, 12:54:32 PM
There’s still no announced release date for HFW and given where we are in the year I’m thinking “Holiday 2021” is now the earliest it could be assuming it doesn’t get delayed into 2022 so you still have time.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on April 26, 2021, 12:55:46 PM
Is Forbidden West a PS5 exclusive? Oh noooeeesss!

I generally dislike controllers for all the reasons, but for some reason H:ZD just clicked after a while and I was running and sliding and shooting along with the best of them. And I never felt like I was just randomly slamming buttons to watch what the character would do (looking at you, Spiderman), but was always planning ahead for the next move.

That said, I would probably have been fine with M&KB too.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on April 26, 2021, 12:58:28 PM
It’ll be available on PS4 too.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Zetor on April 26, 2021, 01:59:22 PM
Is Sony going to eventually release Forbidden West on PC around the release of the PS6? Or was the PC release of HZD just a one-time thing for them?

Anyway, I don't own a Playstation so I've only played HZD on the PC with mouse/keyboard. It felt great; don't remember any control-related complaints off the top of my head. Definitely a smoother experience than, say, playing Dark Souls 1-2-3 with m/kb (which is why I played a sorcerer in those games, that's my story and I'm sticking to it :awesome_for_real:). It also forced me to upgrade my archaic video card, so I managed to dodge the current GPU shortage insanity... win-win?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on April 26, 2021, 02:21:54 PM
Sony is experimenting with releasing games that were once PlayStation-exclusives on the PC. HZ:D was the first. Days Gone is the 2nd. No idea if HFW will eventually be released on PC. E.g. Days Gone may do horribly on the PC and that would be the last one Sony releases for the PC for the foreseeable future.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on May 18, 2021, 11:20:59 AM
Digital Foundry: Days Gone PC Tech Review: PS5 Comparisons, Settings Analysis + More (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5fz9_w3bGo)

There's one significant game clock issue where the game slows down in some situations but otherwise it looks like a much better port than the original H:ZD PC port (not too surprising since Days Gone is Unreal Engine vs H:ZD's custom developed for PS4 engine). Other places have reported issues like "fade to black" screens and controller button mappings not working.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on May 18, 2021, 12:25:05 PM
DG's been very solid and controls well with the kbm, other than a little wonkiness when your character is turned in the wrong direction (but that's just an animation thing that happened on the console, too, just more noticeable with a high-sensitivity mouse + wasd). I did run into a slowdown bug last night in my initial run, more on that if it crops up again. Doesn't look like the same one Alex was talking about. No issue with button mapping on a xbox series controller.

Probably goes without saying that it runs great on my new rig, looks wonderful in 4k/60. It already looked good on the PS4 Pro, so that's just icing on the cake.

Nice to have the kbm for onfoot stuff. I really liked how Bend implemented motion aiming in the PS4 version, but a mouse is still the champ. I do use the controller for vehicles, though.

I personally hope more people can stick with the game to get into the meat of the story. It's one of my favorites by a long-shot. I tend to like the POI side mission stuff (like Ubi loves, AC/FC/etc), so for me it was fun running through those because I found the gameplay itself enjoyable.

I may hold off on my full playthrough until there's a patch or two, but it's pretty solid in my initial testing (did a half hour during lunch just now and it was smooth as buttah). Just make sure you use the option in the accessibility menu to turn off QTEs  :why_so_serious: Actually, I tweaked quite a few settings for the controls, but I did the same with the console version. Options are pretty good to get it feeling comfortable to the individual's tastes.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on May 20, 2021, 08:37:47 PM
On the Steam store HZ:D skipped the Fall sale and was first discounted (20%) during the Winter sale -- i.e. Sony was in no hurry to discount the game. Your best bet is likely, if Epic Games has a $10 coupon sale soon, to get the game on EGS and use the coupon on that game.
The EGS Summer MEGA Sale with $10 coupons has started. You missed the discount by 2 days :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on July 23, 2021, 11:41:24 AM
Nintendo has released a pokemon based MOBA.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on July 23, 2021, 11:46:08 AM
That's apparently P2W.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on July 23, 2021, 01:36:40 PM
Oh it's a tencent game.

All is explained.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on July 23, 2021, 11:44:31 PM
Digital GDC panel with Raph and Vogel talking about SWG (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj0qmxxEC7U).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on July 25, 2021, 11:02:34 AM
Do we want to talk about Blizzard and the shitstorm or naw.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on July 25, 2021, 08:33:50 PM
I can't see how anybody could be remotely surprised, at any rate.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samprimary on July 28, 2021, 05:29:35 PM
abandoning blizzard conscientiously and supporting the digital picket line is ... well, it doesn't feel like much of a sacrifice today

like at least we have that going for us — it's not a big ask

Oh no, I have to not play the shit post-legion implosion of WoW? I can't piss away my time in the awful slog of modern hearthstone? I can't experience the WC3 remake everyone hates? Oh no, I'll miss out on their garbage mobile gatcha diablo, oh noooo

i thank them for imploding on obvious lines both ethically and product quality related to make it so that there's no "good product but by evil person" dilemma where we're like oh man the game's pure sex do we really want to stop playing it just because the creator tazers puppies for fun



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on July 28, 2021, 06:17:53 PM
Diablo II: Resurrected is coming out in two months. It's going to be sad not playing that at launch unless they somehow manage to clean house before then.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on July 28, 2021, 06:50:50 PM
I guess I'm lucky in that regard - having now actually played the original Diablo 2, I still can't see what all the fuss is about. The last Blizzard game I played was Overwatch, but WoW and Warcraft 2 are literally the only Blizzard products I've ever spent that much time with. I've never held them in the regard that most do, and what they've put out lately has been underwhelming even by my own low opinion of them. Boycotting them isn't a problem, and Activision hasn't put out a product I've wanted since Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on July 28, 2021, 08:11:08 PM
I'm more or less in the same place with D2:R.  I played it to death when it came out, my interest in a light remaster is not very high.

OW2 is not mustering a great deal of excitement with the changes they've made (only 1 tank, it'll be fine guys honest (it probably really really won't)).

D4 I dunno but D3 disappointed initially, especially the auction house or bot farming being nearly required to progress and get that loot.  After that, the game just seemed to lack oomph for me, in several areas.  Maybe D4 will be better, who knows.  Maybe by then Activision-Blizzard won't be a man-hive of direness too.  (ha)

Diablo Gatcha, well, I played quite a bit of a gatcha game already (Fire Emblem: Heroes) and my desire to ever touch a gatcha game again is approximately nil.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Zetor on July 29, 2021, 01:00:53 AM
The only Blizzard title me (or anyone from my circle of friends) is/was remotely excited for was WOW Classic BC (and eventually WOTLK)... not so much anymore. If Blizz can't even hold on to us boomers with our nostalgia glasses and fat credit cards, they're proper fucked.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on July 29, 2021, 05:16:19 AM
D2R is the only one I was looking forward to, but I'm comfortable not giving them any money if they're going to continue being shitbags.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 29, 2021, 02:29:15 PM
The Ascent is out and it's better than I thought it could be. It's gorgeous and fun to play and explore. Unfortunately, the loot seems shit and that's the saddest news.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on July 29, 2021, 06:17:46 PM
Played an hour going through the intro and now my left wrist hurts. The game is a "twin-stick" shooter which means on M+K to move you use WASD (rebindable), but because of the isometric camera and level design layout, to move in a cardinal direction from the game's/camera's perspective you have to move diagonally which requires pressing two movement keys at the same time which is not what you normally have to do with WASD-shooter style movement (you turn / rotate with mouse instead) and is very awkward-feeling unless it's something you do regularly, which I don't, hence the wrist pain. And I was constantly running into walls, especially when dodging, cause I'm not used to pressing two of the WASD keys at once to move in a "regular" direction.

The game does support controllers but only provides icons for an Xbox controller so while you can use a PS4 controller, and it detects and uses it without needing to run DS4Windows, you won't get the Dual Shock icons. Also for some reason the movement ring registration is off for the PS4 controller and you move slower than either using the keyboard or an Xbox controller. On the Xbox controller it annoyingly won't detect it if you plug it in / turn it on after the game is running. And controller support seems half-baked with many screens not showing the button icons / controls that are applicable. And the controller button prompts on objects in the world itself are super hard to read.

And speaking of button prompts the game does not normally tell you with the game-world interactable objects if you are supposed to press/tap the button or hold it. I got stuck very early on cause a terminal to advance the quest needed a hold press even though the smaller door terminals nearby just require a tap press and I thought there was something I was missing to activate the big terminal and was running around searching for something else to interact with. Probably most annoying is how fucking long you have to hold down the button to get out of the tutorial pop-up screens and some other menus. Thousands of man-hours are going to be wasted by players waiting for those fucking windows to disappear assuming the game becomes popular (and it is getting good reviews).

Getting back to controller vs M+K, one advantage of using the controller for movement is that unless you are moving the right stick as well your character will auto-face the direction you are moving. With M+K you have to move the aiming reticle with the mouse to get your character to face the direction you are moving which is just the way it works with M+K twin-stick controls but is annoying when you aren't actually shooting at things. But of course with the controller you give up the precision aiming you get with the mouse. Once my wrist calms down I'll play it some more with the Xbox controller and see if that's an acceptable way to play. Or maybe I'll wait for somebody to create a mod with the PS4 controller icons and try to fix the wonky joystick movement range with DS4Windows or hope they patch that as I much prefer the PS controller over the Xbox one.

Oh another thing that's annoying is that the game doesn't "hide" objects as you move behind them. It does show you an outline of your character when you are obscured by objects by there's a long delay before that outline appears so most of the time you can't even see yourself, much less what's hidden behind the object(s). I got stuck a couple of times in the tutorial mini-boss room trying to move around the large central pillar in the room because I couldn't see myself or the outline of the base of the pillar on the hidden side.

Edit: yeah controller sucks too. LB/RB, DPad left and right and the left stick all switch menu screens even though LB/RB are the only buttons listed. I'm constantly switching screens accidentally because of that. Worse, RT is fire and not RB. That's way way too slow to use.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 01, 2021, 07:59:25 PM
D2r is already bought so womp womp. This should probably have its own thread.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on August 01, 2021, 08:50:23 PM
Refund it?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 03, 2021, 10:07:19 AM
no


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 03, 2021, 10:07:28 AM
(i got it free)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on August 03, 2021, 10:20:41 AM
The pony tail is gone: https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/blizzard/23706475/new-leadership-at-blizzard


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on October 09, 2021, 09:38:58 PM
So I was excited about Battlefield 2042 right up until I played the open beta. My 4-year old machine with a Nvidia 1060 simply couldn't handle it. On medium settings it was barely playable and looked like complete and total ass. This is the same machine I played BF4 on, and it ran fine with little tweaking and looked worlds better. I even played Battlefield 5 with it and don't remember significantly downgrading anything.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on October 10, 2021, 12:17:58 AM
You aren’t missing anything. The game is far far worse than any of the most recent games (BF4, BF1, BF5). The graphics and graphical details are nicer than BF4, which is to be expected since that game is almost 8 years old now (but still looks quite nice), but all the new highly touted features like Specialists and the Plus system are terribad. The only map available in the Beta Orbital is horrible as well.

I got hyped for BF2042 as well and have been playing BF4 in anticipation of 2042’s release since I haven’t played a BF seriously since 2 but after playing 3 matches of the Beta I’m very happy I didn’t preorder and will wait a year or so to get the game at 50% off or more and enjoy the games people have created for Portal mode.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on October 21, 2021, 03:02:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJy7LF789lo Giggity.

New ConcernedApe game. Looks a little raw at the moment, but I am looking forward to loosing another 100+ hours in whatever pixel town he's made this time.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 22, 2021, 05:53:36 AM
A non-comprehensive list of tracks dropped from the upcoming GTA remastered trilogy:

Quote
GTA: Vice City
Michael Jackson -“Billie Jean”
Michael Jackson -“Wanna Be Startin’ Somethin”
Ozzy Osbourne -“Bark At The Moon”
Kate Bush -“Wow”
Herbie Hancock – “Rock It”
Afrika Bambaataa -“Looking For The Perfect Beat”
Lionel Richie – “Running with the Night”

GTA: San Andreas
2 Pac – “I Don’t Give A f*ck”
Compton’s Most Wanted – “Hood Took Me Under”
NWA – “Express Yourself”
Ozzy Osbourne – “Hellraiser”
Rage Against the Machine – “Killing in the Name”
Charles Wright – “Express Yourself”
The Blackbyrds – “Rock Creek Park”
James Brown – “Funky President”
Macer & The Macks – “Soul Power ‘74”
James Brown – “The Payback”
The JB’s – “Grunt”
Ultramagnetic MC’s – “Critical Beatdown”
Fatback – “Yum Yum”
Roy Ayers – “Running Away”
The Gap Band – “You Dropped A Bomb On Me”
Tom Petty – “Running Down A Dream”
Joe Cocker – “Woman to Woman”
Black Harmony – “Don’t Let It Go to Your Head”
Blood Sisters – “Ring My Bell”
Driving around listening to cool tunes was a big part of the enjoyment of VC and in particular SA for me. I was pretty tempted, as SA is still my overall favorite GTA (due to setting/music), but after hearing the (frankly inevitable) news about the soundtrack, I'm far less enthusiastic.

Apologies for the source link to a crap site: https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/22/22739195/remastered-grand-theft-auto-trilogy-release-date-november-11th-gta3-vice-city-san-andreas

In similar news, apologies for the handful of Rocksmithers here, they're hitting the end of their licensing and have begun delisting tunes. If you want some back catalog tracks, pick them up in the next steam sale. Seems to be a 10yr deal, so mostly OG tracks right now, and it's expected to cascade in order of release (so the last RS 14 tracks should be delisted in around 9 years, unless they do a comprehensive delisting as part of the RS+ license deal). I'd also recommend stocking up on your custom forge favorites...just in case.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on November 01, 2021, 12:02:31 PM
Apparently Far Cry 6 is sending out emails to people who didn't play it much in the voice of the antagonist taunting them for their lack of engagement.

I am sure this is a winning strategy.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on November 01, 2021, 12:24:12 PM
Apparently we've reached the point where AAA single-player games* can not reach their profit targets without "micro" transactions. Otherwise why would Ubisoft care if players have stopped playing since they already got their "box" sales money.

* Yes it has co-op but it's doesn't have a multi-player "end game"


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on November 01, 2021, 12:27:05 PM
We probably hit that point a whole console generation ago, they're just getting more clever and/or desperate about it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on November 01, 2021, 08:14:47 PM
Yes the non-micro micro transaction model in non-free-to-play AAA games was from the previous generation but at least they didn't spam your email trying to get you to log back in so they could shove more ads in your face.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on November 02, 2021, 07:21:49 AM
Reason #783 why you should buy GotG. Support singleplayer non-RMT AAA gaming!

Also, Drax is downright amazingly voiced and written.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on November 02, 2021, 11:10:33 AM
RS delisting continues. I won't post every update, but if you're a fan of RS, this is a reminder that every month tracks are being delisted, in order of release (10 year license deal).

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FC3zp5SXIAIV0Ex?format=jpg)

I believe that any song packs broken by a component song being delisted will still allow the other tracks (that have yet to be delisted) be purchased individually.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on November 04, 2021, 07:49:11 AM
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/square-enix-claims-crystal-dynamics-was-the-wrong-fit-for-disappointing-marvels-avengers/

Which sounds encouraging on the heels of the very good GotG game...but they took exactly the wrong lesson (they feel the developer was the wrong choice, not game-as-a-service :\ ).

I actually enjoyed the gameplay (though it doesn't get decent until around level 20 and it's grindy). But after playing Spider-Man and having most or all of the suits unlocked, it was a real shitty thing to see 40 outfits with 3 or 4 unlocked and most not obtainable through normal gameplay of a normal person who just wants to play a single player game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Setanta on November 06, 2021, 07:37:03 PM
Avengers was such a clusterfuck of a game, I'm amazed it hasn't been shitcanned already. GotG got it right by having a clear focus on what it wanted to be. I'm still playing it through, but have invested more time in it than Avengers by a long-shot.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on November 15, 2021, 02:57:21 PM
As had been rumored, the free-to-play Halo Infinite multiplayer component released today (technically in Beta form):

https://twitter.com/Halo/status/1460315656776155138


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on November 30, 2021, 12:20:53 PM
Big patch for the GTA trilogy debacle: https://www.polygon.com/22809777/gta-trilogy-definitive-edition-patch-update-graphics

I don't see how they can actually fix the fact that they based it on the goddamned mobile port.

Even with the neutered song list, I likely would've bought it just to run through the games again with some QoL improvements. But nah. That's crazy, using arguably the worst version of the games to work from?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on December 08, 2021, 11:56:15 AM
Ubisoft is going to sell NFT cosmetics for Ghost Recon Breakpoint that are also on a blockchain.  Or something.

I dunno, it seems real dumb and buzzwordy.  Which means they'll probably make a lot of money from idiots spending cash on pants that they don't own and will probably have less than 0 value even while the game is running.

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/12/ubisofts-first-nft-plans-make-no-sense/

From the sound of it they're not even unique cosmetics, just "pants" with a serial number on them, which is what supplies the uniqueness.  Also a history of who owned that cosmetic, because I do want to know if my pants were owned by xXx MuhBalzOnUrFaec xXx or whatever the cool kids are naming themselves these days.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on December 08, 2021, 12:24:15 PM
This initial offering is effectively just a test run -- i.e. they are seeding the initial marketplace with a bunch of non-unique items since it's easier / quicker that way and will wait and see how both the technology works out and whether or not people have an interest in buying and selling before creating more, presumably less "mass-produced", items. Still begs the question why use NFTs. E.g. people have been buying and selling CS:GO skins for almost a decade now without the need for NFTs to do the transactions. It is nice that this will be another way to turn virtual goods into real-world money (though again you don't need NFTs to do that now) so in that regard I think it's a good thing.

Edit: Also Breakpoint for the PC is on sale right now if you don't already have it and if you want to get in on the ground floor :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on December 09, 2021, 09:00:11 AM
Heh, Ubisoft took their Quartz announcement video down cause it was getting disliked bombed.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/ubisoft-nfts-announcement-dislikes


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on December 09, 2021, 10:12:10 AM
That USA Today article has strong "How do you do fellow kids" energy.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on December 09, 2021, 10:44:46 AM
Ubisoft is going to sell NFT cosmetics for Ghost Recon Breakpoint that are also on a blockchain.  Or something.

I dunno, it seems real dumb and buzzwordy.  Which means they'll probably make a lot of money from idiots spending cash on pants that they don't own and will probably have less than 0 value even while the game is running.

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/12/ubisofts-first-nft-plans-make-no-sense/

From the sound of it they're not even unique cosmetics, just "pants" with a serial number on them, which is what supplies the uniqueness.  Also a history of who owned that cosmetic, because I do want to know if my pants were owned by xXx MuhBalzOnUrFaec xXx or whatever the cool kids are naming themselves these days.
You'll need to setup a crypto-wallet for this, with Kukai and Temple being the supported ones by Ubisoft Connect. Not having used a crypto-wallet before (don't own any Bitcoin or the like) it's all a bit confusing[1] and the Quartz account linkage workflow is a bit wonky[2] but I appear to have successfully claimed / acquired my first NFT[3]. Go me?

Apparently all the M4A1 rifles have been claimed now (limited to 3000). I have less than 200 hours played so I'm not going to be able to attempt to get the helmet (needs >= 600 hours) but I may be able to get the pants (>= 100 hours) if I'm quick enough.

[1] Like how is my wallet's account seed phrase secure if the other side knows it?
[2] E.g. had to go back a few steps to get accounts linked after setting up a wallet
[3] After the claim period ends, it shows in my Quartz account as claimed but not in my actual wallet yet


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on December 09, 2021, 03:15:17 PM
Heh, Ubisoft took their Quartz announcement video down cause it was getting disliked bombed.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/ubisoft-nfts-announcement-dislikes

I didn't think you could see dislikes on Youtube anymore.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on December 09, 2021, 03:46:56 PM
Life.. uh.. found a way.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on December 09, 2021, 04:53:14 PM
The public API to fetch dislike counts is still active so people have written browser extensions and the like to redisplay that info. YouTube has said that API will be turned off in a couple of weeks so enjoy that data while it lasts.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on December 09, 2021, 11:27:04 PM
The Unreal 5 interactive tech demo The Matrix Awakens: An Unreal Engine 5 Experience is available now to play if you have a current-gen console (PS5 or Xbox Series X/S) -- sorry no PC version.

https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/wakeup

Here's a video of the demo / "gameplay" if you can't play it or don't want to bother with the (large) download: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izpSH6LUpm4


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on December 11, 2021, 06:31:52 AM
Ubisoft is going to sell NFT cosmetics for Ghost Recon Breakpoint that are also on a blockchain.  Or something.

I dunno, it seems real dumb and buzzwordy.  Which means they'll probably make a lot of money from idiots spending cash on pants that they don't own and will probably have less than 0 value even while the game is running.

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/12/ubisofts-first-nft-plans-make-no-sense/

From the sound of it they're not even unique cosmetics, just "pants" with a serial number on them, which is what supplies the uniqueness.  Also a history of who owned that cosmetic, because I do want to know if my pants were owned by xXx MuhBalzOnUrFaec xXx or whatever the cool kids are naming themselves these days.
You'll need to setup a crypto-wallet for this, with Kukai and Temple being the supported ones by Ubisoft Connect. Not having used a crypto-wallet before (don't own any Bitcoin or the like) it's all a bit confusing[1] and the Quartz account linkage workflow is a bit wonky[2] but I appear to have successfully claimed / acquired my first NFT[3]. Go me?

Apparently all the M4A1 rifles have been claimed now (limited to 3000). I have less than 200 hours played so I'm not going to be able to attempt to get the helmet (needs >= 600 hours) but I may be able to get the pants (>= 100 hours) if I'm quick enough.

[1] Like how is my wallet's account seed phrase secure if the other side knows it?
[2] E.g. had to go back a few steps to get accounts linked after setting up a wallet
[3] After the claim period ends, it shows in my Quartz account as claimed but not in my actual wallet yet


Bad trippy


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on December 11, 2021, 01:17:05 PM
:awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Setanta on December 12, 2021, 09:19:08 PM
I seriously thought that NFTs were a joke. Now I'm starting to think that Wonko the Sane was right!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 21, 2021, 12:36:23 PM
Elex II got a release date of March 1 2022!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on January 11, 2022, 01:33:55 PM
February is going to be big month for new releases -- get your wallets ready!

A partial list:

Feb 04 - Dying Light 2: Stay Human
Feb 08 - Sifu
Feb 11 - Lost Ark
Feb 17 - Total War: Warhammer 3
Feb 18 - Horizon: Forbidden West
Feb 22 - Destiny 2: The Witch Queen
Feb 25 - Elden Ring


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on January 11, 2022, 03:37:19 PM
March has Tiny Tina, too.

I'm not sure which to get, HFW or Elden Ring. HZD was my only platinum trophy but I've tried playing it again and just... can't. I'm worried the sequel will remind me too much of the first.

On the flip side, getting my dick kicked again and again in Elden Ring sounds pretty meh, too. Not sure what to do.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 11, 2022, 04:11:39 PM
February is going to be big month for new releases -- get your wallets ready!

A partial list:

Feb 04 - Dying Light 2: Stay Human
Feb 08 - Sifu
Feb 11 - Lost Ark
Feb 17 - Total War: Warhammer 3
Feb 18 - Horizon: Forbidden West
Feb 22 - Destiny 2: The Witch Queen
Feb 25 - Elden Ring


So, elden ring


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: 01101010 on January 11, 2022, 05:13:52 PM
The Witch Queen?  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on January 11, 2022, 05:23:22 PM
Elden Ring I’ll get. Horizon possibly as a “I haven’t played a game on my PS5 since Returnal” thing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on January 11, 2022, 05:29:32 PM
No Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Teleku on January 11, 2022, 06:14:08 PM
Horizon was great, so I'm in for the follow up.  Elden Ring a priority buy also.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on January 11, 2022, 06:32:11 PM
No Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart?


I was somewhat tempted but I've never bought a R&C game. Just never been my thing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on January 12, 2022, 07:12:26 AM
Team Total War checking in.  Also in on Horizon and Ratchet & Clank.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on January 12, 2022, 07:12:44 AM
Only release I'm currently aware of that I'm looking forward to in Q1 is Elex II (March 1st). HFW is a likely purchase, but not until (if) it's released on Steam.

I'm really stoked for Elex II, every iteration they improve on the Gothic formula and thus far the 2nd in each series (Gothic 2, Risen 2) have been my favorites.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Draegan on January 14, 2022, 06:38:53 AM
I'll be buying Lost Ark.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on January 15, 2022, 05:21:31 AM
I'll do Elden Ring and probably Forbidden West.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 15, 2022, 09:45:44 AM
I am getting all three (Lost Ark, Elden Ring, Horizon Forbidden West) plus Gran Turismo 7 in March. Where I'll find the time to play them is unclear, but buying them is inevitable.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on January 18, 2022, 06:00:27 AM
https://www.ign.com/articles/xbox-activision-blizzard-buy-acquisition-acquired

Quote
Xbox has announced a deal to buy Activision Blizzard, the company behind Call of Duty, World of Warcraft and many other major gaming franchises.

Announced on Xbox Wire, the deal means Xbox now owns the likes of Call of Duty, Warcraft, Overwatch, Diablo, Tony Hawk's Pro Skater, and much more. CEO of Microsoft Gaming Phil Spencer announced that all Activision Blizzard companies would report to him after the deal is closed.

As expected, Spencer says Xbox will include "as many Activision Blizzard games as we can" in the Xbox Game Pass services. No word has been made about turning the likes of Call of Duty or other mega-franchises into Xbox exclusives, but with the likes of Bethesda's Starfield becoming a first-party exclusive, it feels more than possible.

A separate press release added that not only does this acquisition bolster Microsoft's gaming business, but that it "will provide building blocks for the metaverse." After the deal closes, Microsoft will become the world's third-largest gaming business by revenue after Tencent and Sony.

Microsoft is going to own all of gaming at this rate.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on January 18, 2022, 07:04:14 AM
I'm sure they're going to clean out the C-suite over there, but it's really just a big clumsy behemoth being bought by an even bigger clumsy behemoth, I'm not sure it'll make a huge difference at the ground level with their product.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Zetor on January 18, 2022, 08:18:16 AM
Now they just need to buy EA so they can merge all those AAA shooter franchises together to immanentize the eschaton, or something.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on January 18, 2022, 12:55:50 PM
Now they just need to buy EA so they can merge all those AAA shooter franchises together to immanentize the eschaton, or something.

Great, now I'm pondering how the requirement for red heifers to be sacrificed to kick off the end of the world may relate back to energy drinks.

Who knew it meant gamers drinking red bull while playing a crossover of Halo and CoD.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on January 18, 2022, 01:30:31 PM
Microsoft is going to own all of gaming at this rate.
Depending on when and how you count Sony is still larger by video game revenue compared to the combined companies though it's unknown how much of Sony's video game revenue is licensing fees which would decrease if / when any of Activision's games go Microsoft-only.

https://www.alltopeverything.com/top-10-biggest-video-game-companies/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_publisher#Rankings


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on January 28, 2022, 11:39:44 AM
:awesome_for_real:

The only gamer who understood!

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2022-01-28-ubisoft-gamers-dont-get-what-nfts-could-do-for-them

Quote
"I think gamers don't get what a digital secondary market can bring to them," Pouard said.

"For now, because of the current situation and context of NFTs, gamers really believe it's first destroying the planet, and second just a tool for speculation. But what we [at Ubisoft] are seeing first is the end game. The end game is about giving players the opportunity to resell their items once they're finished with them or they're finished playing the game itself."



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on January 28, 2022, 12:44:41 PM
Stlll doesn't make any sense since you don't need to use cryptocurrencies to do any of that. And Ubisoft puts so many restrictions on what you can do with their NFTs that they aren't really NFTs in the common usage of the term, currently. E.g. you can't sell your NFTs to just anybody (buyer has to have a Ubisoft Connect account and a wallet linked to Quartz), if your account gets banned you lose your Quartz NFTs, and there's probably a bunch of other reasons Ubisoft can take back their NFTs if they feel like it. The only thing they gain by making them NFTs is they didn't need to make their own marketplace platform.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 15, 2022, 08:13:30 AM
Finally looking like we're inching to DirectStorage: https://www.engadget.com/microsoft-directstorage-windows-pc-113503431.html

Can't come soon enough, hope it really takes off and kills that ancient bottleneck!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on March 22, 2022, 02:49:16 PM
After 5 long years of intensive development from Nintendo's crack team of software engineers they've finally released for the Switch UI...folders.

https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/58092/~/how-to-create-groups-of-software

Hopefully Playstation's crack team of software engineers won't take as long to add folders to the PS5 UI (which the PS4 UI had from the beginning).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 22, 2022, 10:22:39 PM
After 5 long years of intensive development from Nintendo's crack team of software engineers they've finally released for the Switch UI...folders.

https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/58092/~/how-to-create-groups-of-software

Hopefully Playstation's crack team of software engineers won't take as long to add folders to the PS5 UI (which the PS4 UI had from the beginning).


Amazing, just yesterday I was browsing through all games and was like "this experience is dogshit, i need a picross folder"


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 25, 2022, 08:43:00 AM
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-rtx-4080-pcb-ad102-ada-lovelace-gpu-24-gb-gddr6x-memory-600w-tdp/

600W and one chart lists the top end card as possibly 850W TDP?

I've got my 3090 throttled to 300W (it will pull ~370 if unthrottled) due to the poor Dell PSU placement right on top of the gddr6x which runs hot already. I can't imagine stuffing double the juice through it, let alone what that would do to your utility bills.

Nvidia needs to have a serious reboot of their architecture. I still prefer them over AMD but it's getting ridiculous, if not irresponsible.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on March 25, 2022, 08:53:37 AM
They may as well be announcing their line of eleventybillion80ti cards for all that it matters.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on March 29, 2022, 05:21:28 PM
Sony's Xbox Game Pass competitor was announced today and is coming in June:

https://blog.playstation.com/2022/03/29/all-new-playstation-plus-launches-in-june-with-700-games-and-more-value-than-ever/

Three tiers: existing PlayStation Plus (Essential), Game Pass version (Extra), and cloud + legacy games (Premium), plus 4th super sekrit tier for those regions without cloud gaming support

No day 1 releases for PlayStation-exclusives like Game Pass.

Extra is more expensive than Game Pass if you pay by month ($14.99USD vs $9.99USD) but has cheaper quarterly and yearly options than Game Pass normally does ($99.99USD for yearly Extra,  $119.88USD for Game Pass paid monthly, not including $1 offer for new subscribers for first month)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 29, 2022, 10:45:20 PM
It's horrific and bad and they missed the boat.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on March 30, 2022, 01:23:01 PM
Is any of it actually installable on PC? Or are the only PC options streaming only?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on March 30, 2022, 01:54:20 PM
For the new PlayStation Plus tiers PC is streaming-only (Extra). Some of the Sony published PlayStation exclusives are starting to be released for the PC (Horizon: Zero Dawn, God of War) but those are separate from PlayStation Plus.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on March 30, 2022, 03:27:36 PM
That's what I had thought, thanks.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on March 30, 2022, 07:32:36 PM
I don't see much of anything this offers a PC user other than the ability to play some console exclusive games via streaming, which really isn't much of a benefit. I also don't see much in there that makes me interested in upping my PS Plus membership to a higher tier, but that could change if they release a killer lineup of PS1-PS3 games that I really want to play.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 30, 2022, 08:36:32 PM
Doesn't help that executive messaging is contrary to the subscription idea: https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2022-03-29-sony-exec-jim-ryan-believes-live-service-games-will-dominate-over-subscriptions


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 31, 2022, 05:25:43 PM
Well Jim Ryan is an idiot.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 05, 2022, 12:45:06 PM
UNCONCEIVABLE

https://www.pcgamer.com/f1-delta-time-one-of-the-first-major-nft-games-has-shut-down/

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As for what's happened to all those precious NFTs, well, for all intents and purposes they no longer exist. It's worth noting the developers are attempting to compensate owners of those now-worthless NFTs with replacement tokens for one of the company's other blockchain-based racing games.

...those other games which will definitely not fold and render /those/ NFTs worthless...



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on April 05, 2022, 04:02:57 PM
Quote from: PC Gamer
Indeed, while Animoca's gesture might seem like a company doing right by its customers, the whole point of an NFT is that it is supposed to convey security and permanence to a digital object. It's supposed to say "this thing exists with a uniquely attributable value". Hence, for Animoca to turn around and say to their customers "Oh no, these NFTs are entirely replaceable" makes a mockery of the whole endeavour.

Like, no shit?  Are there seriously people who are so in to NFTs that they didn't know this?  What was supposed to happen when the game shut down, you'd still be able to drive your online racecars around without servers somehow?  Like they'd still exist in some kind of Tron world or something independent of the actual software? 

This whole NFT thing just baffles me, every project linked to it seems like the most obvious bullshit I've ever seen but it's being played completely straight by major corporations and continues to make mountains of cash.  Either I'm an idiot for missing the obvious, or people out there are investing STUPID amounts of money in to tech they don't understand even on a basic level.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on April 05, 2022, 04:12:07 PM
The more money they invest, they more likely they are to overlook flaws that seem obvious to the rest of us. Anyone who owns one (1) NFT is already so far down the rabbithole that of COURSE they'll be able to transfer their NFTs to some other Metaverse later, that's like, the whole point, man. And eventually they can use their ape as a driver in the F1 racing game, or something.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Count Nerfedalot on April 05, 2022, 04:50:30 PM
Is there really much, if any, of a gap between NFTs (at least game elements and artworks) and Star Citizen spaceships? 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on April 05, 2022, 04:56:23 PM
Roberts is just fucking his customers. I doubt he’s gobbling up electricity just to make his jpegs more valuable. So I guess Roberts has ethics in a twisted fashion.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on April 05, 2022, 05:15:26 PM
Yea, I'd say NFTs are worse but they're certainly in the same ballpark. Legitimately surprised Star Citizen hasn't gone that route yet, though maybe minting NFTs requires too much technical skill for them. :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on April 05, 2022, 06:57:31 PM
Is there really much, if any, of a gap between NFTs (at least game elements and artworks) and Star Citizen spaceships? 
In gaming they are essentially the same except for how they are tracked (proprietary vs block chain). See Ubisoft Quartz for an NFT gaming example:

https://quartz.ubisoft.com/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ezrast on April 07, 2022, 12:34:03 PM
This whole NFT thing just baffles me, every project linked to it seems like the most obvious bullshit I've ever seen but it's being played completely straight by major corporations and continues to make mountains of cash.  Either I'm an idiot for missing the obvious, or people out there are investing STUPID amounts of money in to tech they don't understand even on a basic level.
The subculture is very very invested in the emperor's new clothes and, contrary to the fable, are not at all suggestible to the notion that the clothes may be made of nothing at all - rather, they have circled the wagons and projected their own level of investment onto the criticizers, who aside from the climate apocalypse angle do not actually care and are just pointing out the obvious because that's what the internet is for.

I imagine the major corporations also do not care much about the imperial fashion situation, but that their analysts have identified the believers as an addressable market with a lot of disposable income, and what we're now seeing is the output of product designers who are true believers themselves, or who got steamrolled by executives and marketing folks when they tried to point out that the product they are now being ordered to design makes no sense.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 08, 2022, 06:27:41 AM
criticizers, who aside from the climate apocalypse angle do not actually care

There's the whole gpu thing, and I can't help but speculate about the timing of rampant inflation at a time when some techbros have created magical money printing technology. I mean, I know the money /in/ the system is all fake, but when it's traded for currency or goods/services outside the system.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on April 13, 2022, 07:11:52 AM
It's the same shift as in "shareholder capitalism"--at some point, most CEOs and their executive suite started seeing what the market wanted of them as more important than selling units to customers in terms of how the CEO and executives got paid off; if the company was losing money but the market was happy (because layoffs or something else), you would get paid off through your own share holdings and in your board plumping your compensation package. Now in many cases you have to make techbros/VCs/etc. happy and that means pimping crypto and NFTs because the techbros are heavily exposed to crypto and NFT investments and are desperately trying to bring more investor money into both.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 14, 2022, 11:42:18 AM
Cyberpunk 2077 expansion confirmed, as well as the recently announced Unreal 5-based Witcher 4. A couple other interesting things on the 2022 roadmap at CDPR (https://twitter.com/CyberpunkGame/status/1514646107434987532).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 15, 2022, 05:44:30 AM
FYI I've been seeing various reports of a new campaign to get 30xx cards in stock, and I just checked a couple places and they do indeed seem to be 'in stock' (best buy was listing a 5 day delay, which is cute a year and a half later).

If you're looking for a card, might finally be able to buy one.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on April 15, 2022, 12:41:28 PM
If you're looking for a card, might finally be able to buy one.
At or below MSRP, more specifically. You've always been able to get cards if you were willing to pay a markup. Starting around February the high end cards (RTX 3080+) started to become available at MSRP. Now there are high end cards being sold below MSRP as well. The "sweet spot" cards (best price to performance) -- i.e. the "no-frills" RTX 3060 Ti cards -- are still extremely difficult to get at MSRP, so if your budget can't handle spending more than, say, $650 for a GPU right now you'll still need to wait or check daily for news about restocks.

My personal current-gen GPU buying story: Last year I had accumulated most of the parts I needed for my new gaming PC build and I decided I couldn't wait any longer for the GPU market to get back to normal so went looking for an RTX 3000-series card with significantly better performance than my GTX 1080 with the least markup in absolute dollar terms (not least % markup over MRSP) since I knew it would a temporary card. That ended up being an RTX 3060 Ti card for $799, not including tax (shipping was free) with an MSRP of $479 purchased at the end of August. That exact card is currently still being sold at a markup but it's down $650. Three weeks ago a 12 GB RTX 3080 card sold by Amazon (not a 3rd party) restocked and was selling for its MSRP (since Amazon was selling it) of $1300. The 12 GB RTX 3080 is not a good value card and neither is the RTX 3080 Ti for that matter (the performance increases don't match the increases in prices over the 3080) but I had just gotten a promotion and pay raise and figured the extra 2 GB of RAM compared to the regular RTX 3080 would potentially give it a longer lifespan for 4K gaming (the 12 GB model is also very slightly faster than a regular 3080). That card is now on sale at Amazon for $1000 and since Amazon no longer does price matching I have to go through the hassle of removing my card, installing the cheaper card I just (re)bought and returning the old card to get back that $300. And my new build is in an NR200P Mini-ITX case so installing a new GPU, especially one that's full length, is a PITA.

This is my "no-frills" RTX 3060 Ti that's now $650:  https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Gaming-08G-P5-3663-KL-Backplate/dp/B097CMQVF4

And this the RTX 3080 12 GB that I have (and returning) that's now on sale: https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-12G-P5-4877-KL-Technology-Backplate/dp/B09Q3DH7V3


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on April 15, 2022, 07:10:05 PM
Alternatively you can just do what I do and check Costco and buy and entire computer (XPS if you're lucky)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on April 15, 2022, 08:36:32 PM
Sky did something similar to get his RTX 3090.

I did consider that when the GPU situation was at its grimmest but I had already collected most of the parts and I wanted a SFF build which are harder to find prebuilt or built-to-order and you typically pay an even higher build premium cost than your standard ATX mid-tower prebuilts.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 16, 2022, 09:54:39 AM
Yeah, it's the best shitty computer I've ever had  :why_so_serious:

And though I give completely earned shit to the Alienware for its design, throttling the 3090 to 300W, setting up good fan curves and frame limits keeps it quiet and it still kicks the shit out of pretty much every game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on April 16, 2022, 11:14:25 AM
Yeah I grabbed an XPS from Costco on sale for like $1700 with a 3070 and it's an absolute beast since i did nothing with it. Glad they went high on the RAM and processor though so it doesn't feel like wasted money.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Draegan on April 16, 2022, 05:09:12 PM
If you recall - I just bought an Alienware on sale with a 3080 in it. Got it 30 days early too.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on April 19, 2022, 12:11:07 AM
I dropped an unspeakable amount of money on a built machine, one of the newer HP Omens (the prior 30x series had cooling issues).  12700k, 3080, 32gb RAM, 2TB SSD, etc.  Very quiet and eats up Elden Ring in 4k at max settings, just occasional dips into the mid 50s.  Waiting for parts just seems like a losing effort these days when it is pretty easy to get a pre-built machine.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on April 19, 2022, 09:01:09 AM
I put myself on the list maybe about two years ago to get a "cheap" EVGA 3060 TI, and pretty much had forgotten about it until I received notice a couple of months ago if I'd be okay with getting the same card, but "fixed" to not run bitcoin mining. Yeah sure of course and I just got the card last week, for sub five hundred so I'm finally happy.

Of course, I'm only playing games right now that don't benefit at all from all the new-fangled ray tracing...

 :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on April 22, 2022, 06:32:16 PM
Finished the main story in Tiny Tina's Wonderlands, just over 30 hours logged. Thoroughly enjoyed it, it's exactly what I was expecting. The story was pretty funny, with a surprisingly talented voice cast (Will Arnett, Andy Samberg, and Wanda Sykes along with Ashly Burch continuing to voice Tina). Going to putz around with whatever post game is on offering and see what DLC is upcoming.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on April 22, 2022, 10:04:52 PM
Its been my favorite Borderlands game so far - taking the looting and shooting from BL3 and making it silly. The end game is a weird rogue-lite-like that is someone like Diablo 3's rifts, but way more random. I recognized how much I dislike the driving portion of BL games; by not having any cars, I 100% didn't miss them.

It's not perfect by any means, but a really solid entry in the BL world.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Typhon on May 13, 2022, 08:03:34 AM
Does anyone know if PoE 2 is making any progress?  (really liked what they showed a year ago)

Anyone know if they plan to change the skill system?  Always felt to me like there were a bunch of false-choices in the tree (i.e. if you don't go heavy into defense you are fucked).  Either split the trees into three (offensive, defense, utility) or put all the defensive stuff early in the tree to make the choice between defenses, rather than defense/offence.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on May 13, 2022, 09:22:51 AM
Here's a bizarre gameplay video of a Stargate game I hadn't heard about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYB7Pb_7lLE

I enjoy the IP, but this seems like a very weird choice of genre/gameplay for it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ezrast on May 19, 2022, 10:09:37 AM
Does anyone know if PoE 2 is making any progress?  (really liked what they showed a year ago)

Anyone know if they plan to change the skill system?  Always felt to me like there were a bunch of false-choices in the tree (i.e. if you don't go heavy into defense you are fucked).  Either split the trees into three (offensive, defense, utility) or put all the defensive stuff early in the tree to make the choice between defenses, rather than defense/offence.
There hasn't been much PoE 2 news since the reveal. It's probably a year or more away still.

I'd be a little bit surprised if anything drastic happens to the main skill tree aside from the usual rebalancing that happens with every major patch. However! The Atlas tree that was introduced last league got some sweet updates with 3.18, including a pair of nodes that globally modify monster stats in maps - one that gives -25% life, +25% damage, and one with +50% life, -25% damage. I haven't played around with these yet but they should help you get away with very tanky or glassy builds that wouldn't have been viable previously.

Another addition is the ability to completely disable certain league mechanics for a payoff. I've felt for a long time that the game simply has too much stuff in it grabbing your attention in maps so I'm glad to see these, if disappointed that you still can't turn off Betrayal.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on May 19, 2022, 07:32:19 PM
So a few days ago I was about to load up Dying Light (1) to finally finish the main quest line as opposed to mucking about and setting gangers and zombies on fire when I discovered an unexpected six gig plus patch.

Turns out the devs have just dumped all the DLC for free on the base game, which is cool, I guess. I have no idea if all of it is quality or not.

Anyway, it's there if you, like me, own the base game but never bought anything extra for it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on May 20, 2022, 05:35:54 AM
I got all my enjoyment of Dying Light without ever finishing the quest that begins the night cycle  :why_so_serious: Similar to quitting RE2 every time Mister X is triggered. I just don't enjoy those kind of mechanics.

Loaded up RDR2 to mess around a bit after enjoying the slow play on Cyberpunk. I think one thing that bugs me about RDR2 is how quick the game is to fuck you with a fine. Just messing around for fun and suddenly my little side quest to explore and maybe pick up enough money to lose at the poker table turns into bankruptcy and jail from fines for ticky-tacky bullshit. The game seems to punish any sort of messing around, which seems weird in a game basically built to mess around in.

To be fair, I've always hated the way Rockstar has handled this, but RDR2 being a slower pace it just seems to throw such an outsized wrench into the works it bothers me to the point of making me not want to play anymore (skinner box'd again).

Also, the controls are trash and half the time I'm just trying to say hi to someone and shoot them  :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on May 20, 2022, 05:51:44 AM
The controls in every rockstar game are trash. They're a low key eurojank company.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on May 20, 2022, 06:39:57 AM
The controls in every rockstar game are trash. They're a low key eurojank company.
It's more that they way overdid the button re-use because RDR2 has so many contextual controls. I know the basic button layout (same as GTA) but then they change the mapping contextually, which is at best unintentionally funny but usually just obnoxious.

I don't mind the controls in GTA.

Also I thought this was the 'what are you playing' thread oops.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Typhon on May 20, 2022, 03:19:57 PM
Does anyone know if PoE 2 is making any progress?  (really liked what they showed a year ago)

Anyone know if they plan to change the skill system?  Always felt to me like there were a bunch of false-choices in the tree (i.e. if you don't go heavy into defense you are fucked).  Either split the trees into three (offensive, defense, utility) or put all the defensive stuff early in the tree to make the choice between defenses, rather than defense/offence.
There hasn't been much PoE 2 news since the reveal. It's probably a year or more away still.

I'd be a little bit surprised if anything drastic happens to the main skill tree aside from the usual rebalancing that happens with every major patch. However! The Atlas tree that was introduced last league got some sweet updates with 3.18, including a pair of nodes that globally modify monster stats in maps - one that gives -25% life, +25% damage, and one with +50% life, -25% damage. I haven't played around with these yet but they should help you get away with very tanky or glassy builds that wouldn't have been viable previously.

Another addition is the ability to completely disable certain league mechanics for a payoff. I've felt for a long time that the game simply has too much stuff in it grabbing your attention in maps so I'm glad to see these, if disappointed that you still can't turn off Betrayal.

Thank you! Wasn't sure if I'd just missed it (news), or they were still just dark.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on June 12, 2022, 05:41:50 PM
Starfield gameplay looks good. Too soon for its own topic?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 12, 2022, 06:58:01 PM
Starfield gameplay looks good. Too soon for its own topic?


probably

i don't even think we have a diablo iv thread yet or maybe we do not only do we but i made it nvm sure make a no mans elder scrolls thread


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on June 13, 2022, 12:34:38 AM
Starfield gameplay looks bland as fuck. But if it's a more rich and interesting No Man's Sky+Skyrim maybe it will be fun to play.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on June 13, 2022, 07:39:10 AM
Starfield gameplay looks bland as fuck. But if it's a more rich and interesting No Man's Sky+Skyrim maybe it will be fun to play.
Bethesda is bland af. Have been for a looong time.

edit: saw the trailer. Gunplay looks terrible. Lots of recycled ideas without much hiding the sources. 1000 explorable planets sounds like even more of the Bethsoft habit of designing giant spaces and having them very sparsely hand-crafted. That's where they started to lose me as a fan (though I still enjoy wandering for dozens of hours, it's just not as satifsying), way back in Morrowind. Gothic came out just before and the smaller but more explorer reward-driven map was way more my jam. That's where I get tired of NMS, so much randomly generated generic yawn.

Their big ship design reveal was cool but also things like Space Engineers and Empyrion exist, so seeing a stripped down version isn't impressive at all. Just hoping that throwing so many things into the blender makes at least an enjoyable homogenization that is more than the individual parts.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on June 13, 2022, 01:59:45 PM
I didn't watch the trailer but I'm a day 1 purchase and noted Skyrim fanboi.

The news I'm more excited for is finally getting Persona 3 and 5 on PC. I'm debating if I want to start with Royal or replay from 3 forward; I never actually finished 5 because playing on consoles is a nightmare.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on June 22, 2022, 07:23:05 AM
Not really news so much as just posting this to poke fun at a clear piece of shit: https://www.eurogamer.net/saber-interactive-files-defamation-claim-amid-spintires-legal-dispute

TLDR Guy who made Spintires (which led to Mudrunner/Snowrunner) made an early deal with a sketchy publisher (Oovee), who now feels they're entitled to 25% royalties on the 2 subsequent games, despite having done nothing at all in regards to them. The telling passage imo:

Quote
Of the four main employees at Oovee in 2016, who I spoke to for Eurogamer's previous report, only founder Zane Saxton remains. When approached for an interview last week, I spoke with the company's new CEO Devin Milsom, a close friend of Saxton. There was no mention made of the details surrounding his former associates' departures.

"We've lost millions on top of spending millions from Spintires being down," Milsom told me. "Zane's had to sell his house, his cars, I've had to invest assets to keep Oovee alive."

Milson's previous enterprises include the Crypto Investors Club and the Emerging Markets Investment Club, which are now listed as dissolved. Online, Milsom has other business interests, such as a YouTube channel where he advises on where to buy and sell gold and silver bullion. He's also the author of 21 Crypto Secrets: That Turned 4 Figures Into 6 Figures In Less Than 12 Months, which is available on Amazon.

The article notes that while Saber has gone on to do a bunch of titles, Oovee has done nothing since Spintires and a couple DLC. Also the original point of contention was that they didn't pay out properly to the original game's author while claiming he wasn't hitting development goals (despite, you know, releasing the game, DLC, and two subsequent games that have rafts of DLC). Leeches like these need to be removed from the pool.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on June 23, 2022, 11:14:31 AM
The Steam Summer Sale 2022 update wiped my Wishlist :oh_i_see:

They also removed the Wishlist link from the top right of the main Store page UI for some inexplicable reason.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on June 23, 2022, 11:30:39 AM
Odd, still there in the corner on mine and my wishlist is intact. You sure you're signed in?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on June 23, 2022, 11:32:06 AM
Yeah I'm signed in. However both are back now (my list and the UI element) so they fixed whatever the issue was on their servers.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on June 23, 2022, 11:33:26 AM
The servers in general have been having issues since the sale started.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on June 23, 2022, 11:33:56 AM
Yup, same as it ever was.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on June 23, 2022, 12:14:43 PM
I miss good deals during Steam sales.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on June 23, 2022, 12:23:42 PM
There's still plenty of good deals on older stuff but you presumably already have those ones.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on June 23, 2022, 12:38:51 PM
That's been my experience these past few years with the Steam sales.  The usual suspects that I either already own, or don't really want to buy.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 23, 2022, 12:59:47 PM
My wishlist finally reappeared. Pretty good sale tbh


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on June 23, 2022, 10:37:03 PM
Yeah, I see a bunch of stuff I might finally pull the trigger on. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on June 23, 2022, 11:01:05 PM
Sale looks different when you are shopping for controller games that play well on a small screen while sitting on the toilet.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on June 24, 2022, 05:22:02 AM
Sale looks different when you are shopping for controller games that play well on a small screen while sitting on the toilet.

True, I have been slowly adding a few I don't have to the wishlist but won't pull the trigger until I have my deck in hand.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 24, 2022, 05:33:41 AM
Sale looks different when you are shopping for controller games that play well on a small screen while sitting on the toilet.


I spent more on this sale than the last 10 combined.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mosesandstick on June 24, 2022, 08:13:03 AM
I picked up a couple of games (~2 years old) but the prices were pretty similar to previous sale prices.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on June 24, 2022, 09:25:24 AM
I still have too much to play.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mandella on June 25, 2022, 04:29:25 PM
Yeah, they pretty well included my whole wish list in this sale, which admittedly is weighted with older games I've finally decided to give a try to.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on June 28, 2022, 01:58:18 PM
I made the mistake of trying out No Oxygen Included and lost a long weekend. Dammit!

https://www.cracked.com/article_34432_cyberpunk-2077-leak-reveals-game-allegedly-failed-due-to-troll-bug-testers.html

JFC

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Disgruntled workers of Quantic Labs, the company that did Cyberpunk's QA, allegedly leaked a document stating that the company misled CD Projekt Red at every step of the way just so they could extend their contract.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on June 28, 2022, 03:45:33 PM
I made the mistake of trying out No Oxygen Included and lost a long weekend. Dammit!
Excellent game. I couldn't get into it the first couple of times I tried to play it but after I figured it out it's actually a fluid dynamics simulator disguised as a survival / digging game I got much further.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on June 28, 2022, 04:03:00 PM
https://www.cracked.com/article_34432_cyberpunk-2077-leak-reveals-game-allegedly-failed-due-to-troll-bug-testers.html

JFC

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Disgruntled workers of Quantic Labs, the company that did Cyberpunk's QA, allegedly leaked a document stating that the company misled CD Projekt Red at every step of the way just so they could extend their contract.
Headline is total clickbait. If it were actually true that CDPR didn't know about the bugs, which I doubt, that just means they (the actual devs) didn't play their own game. Which sets the game up for failure no matter how good or bad QA was.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 28, 2022, 07:33:19 PM
that sounds like utter nonsense


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 20, 2022, 07:47:09 AM
Wanna work on GTA 6? https://hitmarker.net/jobs?company=rockstar-games

227 positions open


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on August 16, 2022, 02:01:56 PM
Lawyer Sanctioned for Failing to Play Call of Duty (https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/lawyer-sanctioned-for-failing-to-play-4233820/)

lol

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On July 12, 2022, the court granted Activision’s motions, dismissed the Complaint with prejudice, and ordered the plaintiff’s counsel to reimburse Activision for the reasonable attorneys’ fees and costs that it incurred in the litigation. The court concluded that the “Plaintiff's counsel failed to conduct a reasonable pre-filing inquiry into the relevant facts” alleged in the Complaint because, among other things, Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare “is a first-person shooter game, not first-and third-person as alleged, and Sean Brooks does not conduct a scripted battle scene in a high fashion couture shopping mall. Plaintiff's counsel could have easily verified these facts prior to filing the factually baseless Complaint, just as the Court easily verified them within the first hour and a half of playing the game.”



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on August 16, 2022, 04:04:58 PM
Lawyer Sanctioned for Failing to Play Call of Duty (https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/lawyer-sanctioned-for-failing-to-play-4233820/)

lol

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On July 12, 2022, the court granted Activision’s motions, dismissed the Complaint with prejudice, and ordered the plaintiff’s counsel to reimburse Activision for the reasonable attorneys’ fees and costs that it incurred in the litigation. The court concluded that the “Plaintiff's counsel failed to conduct a reasonable pre-filing inquiry into the relevant facts” alleged in the Complaint because, among other things, Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare “is a first-person shooter game, not first-and third-person as alleged, and Sean Brooks does not conduct a scripted battle scene in a high fashion couture shopping mall. Plaintiff's counsel could have easily verified these facts prior to filing the factually baseless Complaint, just as the Court easily verified them within the first hour and a half of playing the game.”


I mean, the case sounds ridiculous, just overall.

The idea of throwing the case out because it's a first person shooter and not a first and third person shooter has me chuckling, though.  I just keep imagining court scenes where the lawyer is like "Your honor, the defense claims that their client could not have committed the murder because they were at home playing the hit RPG, Legend of Zelda: a Link to the Past.  But what the ladies and gentlemen of the jury need to understand is... ZELDA IS NOT AN RPG AT ALL!"  *horrified gasps from the jury*


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on August 24, 2022, 11:18:48 AM
For the handful of that have played State of Decay 2: the "Forever Communities" update is now live:

https://support.stateofdecay.com/hc/en-us/articles/8464902912525-Update-30-Forever-Communities-

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Forever Communities

When completing a Legacy you now have the option to continue playing with the same community!

* You can either disband your community, or continue playing after completing a Legacy.

* Before continuing on with your community, you can choose to send individual characters to the Legacy Pool. Those survivors will remain in the pool and will not be included in your continued community.

*And yes, you keep your supply locker contents when continuing a community!


Legacy Recruitment

Your Legacy Pool is now more accessible than ever!

* Legacy recruitment is here! We’ve added the ability to recruit survivors from your Legacy Pool into current communities. Check your radio menu!
Survivors can now be sent to the Legacy Pool at any time. Mark them from the Community Screen, then talk to the marked survivor to send them on their way.

* Survivors sent to the Legacy Pool take their current inventory with them.


A Refreshed Legacy Pool

We’ve redesigned the Legacy Pool menu to ease navigation and display more information about your survivors!

* Mark your favorite survivors to find them more easily!

* The Legacy Pool now includes filtering by name, leader type, community skills, Legacy count, and favorites.

* Survivor inventories are now visible in the Legacy Pool. Select a survivor from the Legacy Pool to view their details. Now you can find where your favorite weapons are hiding!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on August 26, 2022, 08:52:18 AM
PoE community is in full meltdown mode at the moment.  Grinding Gear Games fucked up pretty hard with this league and is facing a massive Reddit revolt.

Here's the gist:

  • GGG massively altered the loot allocation. They removed large bonuses from old league content and pushed it to the reworked rare mobs (which people do not like). 
  • They did not indicate the above in the patch notes or the design manefesto. Whoops. They also undertuned the new bonuses. Loot is pretty sparse, especially currency.
  • The league content released this league is pretty meh and at launch (and still kind of is) unrewarding and a bit clunky.
  • They changed the meta mod currency to a currency that is less easily obtained and is used to roll value on gear. This is a messy change and nobody wanted it. It may be due to people cracking the code on particular powerful randomized jewel, which can now be predicted with a tool. Economy in shambles.
  • They are not backing off the loot changes and are incrementally buffing rather than reverting the change. Cue angry streamers and review bombs.

Do I like new changes? Not in particular. Did they fuck up? Yep. Pretty badly. They commited probably the biggest sin imaginable: they fucked with the loot and made it worse. Is it getting incrementally better? Yeah.

I'm not going to stop playing, as I've made enough currency to have fun with my current build, and I want to explore the league mechanic a bit more. This may end up being a fairly short lived league for me, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on August 26, 2022, 01:25:42 PM
Yea from reading the changes, it's pretty wild. I don't really play high end juiced content so I'm kinda meh either way, but it's certainly stupid of them to unleash massive nerfs without warning the community ahead of time. The Div <-> Ex switch just feels stupid, and if it really is because of the jewel there had to have been another way to make that change. :uhrr:

Regarding the league mechanic, I like leagues like this that give you zones to run more than things like breach, ritual, etc. that involve standing in one small area with a huge pack on you. Still haven't made it through the acts (because of work, not because of a dislike for the changes) so I'm really not in a position to judge much. I will say I played on launch day and had no lag or crashes, so that was refreshing.

Overall these nerfs seem to be pushing towards their "vision" of POE2, which is more challenging and slower paced. I don't disagree with that in principle; the high end, nonstop zoom playstyle doesn't appeal to me much. In practice, they're likely to alienate the current community who DOES like that sort of thing, and the constant negative press between now and POE2's launch (if that's ever even a thing) is going to fuck them.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ezrast on August 27, 2022, 01:29:40 AM
Strangely, I found more decent uniques while leveling than I can ever remember getting in previous leagues (largely but not entirely thanks to the buffs they gave to a lot of trash leveling uniques). I do keep running out of alchs, but I'm in SSF so other currency shortages haven't really registered.

My problem with the game right now (and for the past couple years) is how wildly unpredictable and inconsistent the tuning is. I'm all for a slower game, and don't care much where the difficulty/loot curves land in absolute terms, but in their efforts to improve pacing GGG has entirely forgotten that mobs other than rares exist. So a typical map is 90% wading through trash that disintegrates the moment I glance at it sideways, 5% reasonably-tuned fights against strong rares, and 5% archnemesis combos that either wreck me or are brick walls not worth killing.

Most of my defenses are solid, but my chaos resistance is crap until I can find some upgrades. And that would be a great goal to work towards if the consequences were, say, that I can't deal with Al-Hezmin mobs so I fall behind on certain atlas/conqueror progress until I get the hole patched. But what actually happens is no matter where I go, sometimes a Chaos Weaver or Toxic shows up when I'm not paying attention for one second - because nothing else in the zone can hurt me - and I get popped. There's no playing around the weakness at the strategic level short of auto-piloting through T3's until I happen to ID the right rare.

White mobs may as well not exist. They could delete them from maps and just have the client render a stream of skeletons that explode the moment you move or use any ability. Players wouldn't notice and they'd save a bundle on server CPU costs. Could give themselves a bonus.

For some reason I still get hype for every league but then it takes me about 3 days to remember that as much as I used to love the game, it's just not that fun for me anymore - especially now that Last Epoch is right there. Maybe PoE 2 will fix it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on September 15, 2022, 11:15:36 AM
Bah, had H:ZD for 70% off in my cart at GMG and had to head out to lunch. Came back from lunch, keys sold out  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 15, 2022, 07:55:17 PM
It's $3.30 more expensive on Steam directly. I'm sure you can afford that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on September 16, 2022, 05:14:40 AM
It's $3.30 more expensive on Steam directly. I'm sure you can afford that.

$5 more for me with code  :why_so_serious:

I've already played it and all the DLC on PS4, so I'm willing to wait until it's on a similar sale in the future.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 20, 2022, 11:55:41 AM
RTX 40 series officially announced: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/40-series/

Reveal: https://youtu.be/PWcNlRI00jo (first 20 minutes is RTX 40-specific stuff)

tl;dr/dw: The 40 series GPUs are on TSMC's 4nm process vs the 30 series Samsung 8nm process. So almost all the non-RT performance gains are from the process shrink by running at ~2x clock speeds with approximately the same power draw (or less) with up to 2x non-RT rasterization performance (~1.5x probably more typical). RT performance is up ~2x from the new architecture so up to 4x with both the new architecture and clock speed boosts combined (~3x probably more typical).

RTX 4090 (24 GB) $1599
RTX 4080 16 GB $1199
RTX 4080 12 GB $899

The RTX 4080 16 GB really should be the RTX 4080 Ti since it has a lot more CUDA cores than the RTX 4080 12 GB. I.e. you are paying $300 for ~22% more CUDA cores as well as the extra 4 GB of RAM.

RTX 30 series price reference:

RTX 3090 (24 GB) $1499
RTX 3080 Ti (12 GB) $1199 (release price), $899 (current price)
RTX 3080 (10 GB) $699

Yes the RTX 3080 Ti was ridiculously overpriced for a long long time given the small increase in performance over the regular 3080.

So the 40 series pricing looks entirely reasonable given the significant jump in performance. Power, again, is not an issue as the new cards are either the same or lower than their 30 series counterparts.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 20, 2022, 12:04:46 PM
The real problem is there's no reason whatsoever to ugprade if you're even on 20XX series, and def not if you're on 30XX series.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 20, 2022, 12:05:35 PM
My 4K 144 Hz monitor says otherwise :awesome_for_real:

Edit: also with RT now becoming a real thing there's a big big difference in RT performance between the 20, 30, and presumably 40 series cards.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on September 20, 2022, 12:33:02 PM
My tv is only 60Hz@4k and for quality images (not just RT) it pushes my 3090 too hard. I play some stuff at 1440p. I'd be ok flipping my 3090 for a 4080 16GB.

Glad to see they've sorted out the power thing, but it's still a huge power draw (another reason I prefer having a higher bin, to get better performance with less power draw). It'll bump close to 400W (390 iirc) if I don't throttle it (to 300W).

If upscaling were a bit more supported, probably wouldn't be quite as much of an issue, but at that size 4k is noticeably crisper even on well-supported DLSS titles.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 20, 2022, 01:53:07 PM
RTX 4090 (24 GB) $1599
RTX 4080 16 GB $1199
RTX 4080 12 GB $899
There's no FE edition for the RTX 4080 12 GB so $899 is a "starting at" price.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 20, 2022, 07:06:22 PM
Out of curiosity, what kind of person would be ok spending $900 but not $1200 at that point? Or even just eh $1600 to blow it out for five years? The entire line seems poorly and awkwardly placed.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on September 20, 2022, 09:20:56 PM
Out of curiosity, what kind of person would be ok spending $900 but not $1200 at that point? Or even just eh $1600 to blow it out for five years? The entire line seems poorly and awkwardly placed.

I’ve got a couple months to decide at least, assuming it’s possible to get any of them. Raptor Lake is supposed to drop around the end of October also. Honestly at this stage in my life I’d rather get a pre-built if possible, but I guess I’ll see what’s available.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 21, 2022, 09:24:53 AM
Out of curiosity, what kind of person would be ok spending $900 but not $1200 at that point? Or even just eh $1600 to blow it out for five years? The entire line seems poorly and awkwardly placed.
$600 is $600 (the delta between low and high) -- not everybody has that much disposable income. I do agree the pricing is awkward with the 3080 12 GB being too high, especially given it's likely there won't be many boards at that $899 price point since there's no FE card, i.e. the pricing will be more like:

RTX 4090 (24 GB) $1599
RTX 4080 16 GB $1199
RTX 4080 12 GB $999

At that point with only $200 difference and much better specs on the 16 GB* the 12 GB doesn't make much sense.

More sensical would have been to have a FE 4080 12 GB and space them $400 apart:

RTX 4090 (24 GB) $1599
RTX 4080 16 GB $1199
RTX 4080 12 GB $799

I.e. except for 4080 16 GB which matches the 3080 Ti initial pricing the new cards would be $100 more than the 30 series cards but offer significantly more performance. That seems reasonable** to me.


* the 12 GB also has less memory bandwidth (192-bit vs 256-bit memory bus) than the 16 GB, in addition to fewer CUDA cores and less memory

** In a world were ~$1500 for the top-end GPU is "reasonable"


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on September 21, 2022, 09:41:17 AM
Is there some limit to effectiveness of memory bandwidth? I've seen (and had, the 8800) some 384 bit interfaces, but my first 256 bit interface card was a 9700 pro back in the early aughts. Seems odd how everything else seems to have ballooned, but not that. I do remember the 9700 pro being a really amazing card, in part to that interface.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 21, 2022, 09:53:28 AM
Yes you can have too much memory bandwidth as in you can fill it faster than the GPU can process the data in it. E.g. the 40 series actually have narrower memory buses (256 and 192 bit) than the comparable 30 series (384 and 320 bit) but the clock speeds are much faster in the 40s so I’m assuming the memory bandwidth should be about the same or more in the 40s.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on September 21, 2022, 12:12:06 PM
Looks like they're feature-blocking DLSS 3 from older gen cards. Ugh.

(https://i.redd.it/szhvklbxi1p91.png)

Ironically, the 4000 series should be in least need of DLSS.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 22, 2022, 01:09:41 PM
Yes you can have too much memory bandwidth as in you can fill it faster than the GPU can process the data in it. E.g. the 40 series actually have narrower memory buses (256 and 192 bit) than the comparable 30 series (384 and 320 bit) but the clock speeds are much faster in the 40s so I’m assuming the memory bandwidth should be about the same or more in the 40s.
NVIDIA's site doesn't list memory clock speeds and memory bandwidth but I found some numbers on www.techpowerup.com (https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/) though I have no idea how accurate they are. I was wrong about the clock speeds (assuming techpowerup.com is correct) -- the GPU clock speeds are significantly higher in the 40 series but the memory clock speeds are only slightly higher so they don't necessarily offset the narrower memory buses. So both RTX 4080s have lower memory bandwidth numbers compared to their corresponding RTX 3080s.

GPUMemory clockEffective GbpsMemory sizeMemory typeMemory busMemory bandwidth
RTX 40901325 MHz21.2 Gbps24 GBGDDR6X384 bit1,018 GB/s
RTX 4080 16 GB1437 MHz23 Gbps16 GBGDDR6X256 bit735.7 GB/s
RTX 4080 12 GB1312 MHz21 Gbps12 GBGDDR6X192 bit503.8 GB/s
RTX 30901219 MHz19.5 Gbps24 GBGDDR6X384 bit936.2 GB/s
RTX 3080 Ti1188 MHz19 Gbps12 GBGDDR6X384 bit912.4 GB/s
RTX 30801188 MHz19 Gbps10 GBGDDR6X320 bit760.3 GB/s
RTX 30701750 MHz14 Gbps8 GBGDDR6256 bit448.0 GB/s


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on September 23, 2022, 05:20:15 AM
I wonder how the 4080 running gddr6x 200MHz faster than the 3090 that already runs wicked hot is going to work out (esp for 200GB/s less bandwidth?). I still feel like nvidia has a power/thermal issue they need to address in their designs.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 23, 2022, 10:18:59 AM
I haven’t seen any tear downs of 40 series cards yet but I’m assuming there will be more robust cooling for those chips — i.e something better than just thick thermal pads that contact the plate of the fin stack.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 29, 2022, 12:12:40 PM
Google Stadia is shutting down January 18, 2023, shocking absolutely nobody, despite publicly stating as late as two months ago that it wasn't. Purchases through Google Store for both hardware and software, except for subscriptions, are being refunded.

https://www.theverge.com/2022/9/29/23378713/google-stadia-shutting-down-game-streaming-january-2023

Latest tweet denying shutdown: https://twitter.com/GoogleStadia/status/1552989433590214656


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on September 29, 2022, 05:12:11 PM
Gotta give Google this, when they decide something is done as an experiment or whatever, it's fucking done. I'm not sure that any of them realize that this is a pretty strong limit condition on new people saying "oh look Google has a new thing they are doing, let's try it."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Count Nerfedalot on September 29, 2022, 06:55:21 PM
I'm certainly not in any hurry to jump on the bandwagon for any more Google products. Ever.  I mean I have an Android phone and use Google apps and stuff on it as well as the web apps. But with the full expectation that whatever I use/need the most will be discontinued when it's most inconvenient.  Certainly no SAS stuff with a paid subscription like the horribly named but fantastically well done "Google Play Music".


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on September 30, 2022, 06:15:11 AM
I mentioned the Stadia thing to the old lady and she immediately went on a rant about Google Play Music. We both had extensive collections uploaded, neither of us bothered to move it to youtube. I forgot how salty I was about it, too. Fuck Google.

Said as I implement collaborative google tools for our trustees  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Count Nerfedalot on September 30, 2022, 07:09:21 AM
Yeah, I tried Youtube Music for the free trial and said "Nope".  I ended up with Spotify as the lesser of many evils but I'm really not happy with it either.  Does anyone know if Amazon music is any good? I heard it had a really limited selection in a lot of areas.  I'm really not in to pop fizzy pablum  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on September 30, 2022, 07:15:12 AM
Licensing comes and goes on Amazon Music, it's not reliable that your favorite albums will be available. I don't think that's any different than any other streaming service with licensing, though. Going through a couple random lists, the only unavailable tune I see is a Sleep tune, though another tune from the same album is still available on the list.

Music licensing is hot garbage (part of why Rocksmith+ sucks). But in the case of Amazon Music, it's been, eh, fine.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on September 30, 2022, 06:29:55 PM
It's kind of insane. We learned this: people want the music they want in the way they want it, they don't want it by the album unless the creator is fucking amazing and can deliver a whole coherent album. But the industry (and most artists) learned the wrong lesson, which was "they just want to steal everything, crush it all". Then Jobs comes along and says "look, see, people will pay money if you just give them the music the way they want it". Only he gets socked with DRM and his own control-freakery so that if you buy iTunes shit it's locked up on their device (which they stop supporting eventually) and the expectation becomes "if you want to 'own' it, we'll make you rebuy it constantly". So then we all say ok fine, we'll buy a streaming service. And then they just balkanize up again and fight what people want.

You tell me the price of listening to everything I want to listen to is a lot, if we want people to get paid off? I might be down with that. Might be better than some of the shit I pay for. You want to tell me that it's a lot but oh wait we just lost half the licenses or oh wait we have this degraded fucking technical standard that makes the music sound like shit or wait you have to listen to ads first despite this costing a lot? Fuck all of you. You paved paradise and put up a parking lot.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 30, 2022, 06:39:57 PM
Apple removed the copy / transfer DRM on iTunes songs more than a decade ago (2009). There's still a watermark on the files, I think, but you can make as many copies as you want and transfer it wherever you want.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on September 30, 2022, 09:12:28 PM
I don't really blame the artists (obviously). They just want to get fucking paid for their work like anyone else. The record labels are more of the villain than even the streaming services. Both suck but for pure evil, it's also obvious that the record labels and large copyright holders are the vampiric bastards stifling the music industry and shoving every anti-consumer idea they can find down our throats. What makes them so evil is the one tool that have that's completely fucked - copyright law.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on October 03, 2022, 04:41:38 PM
RIP Overwatch.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on October 03, 2022, 05:10:00 PM
It’s amazing how quickly Blizzard killed Overwatch by prematurely announcing Overwatch 2 and stopping development on OW, going from GotY and a robust professional league to effectively dead in three years.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on October 03, 2022, 05:51:08 PM
It’s amazing how quickly Blizzard killed Overwatch by prematurely announcing Overwatch 2 and stopping development on OW, going from GotY and a robust professional league to effectively dead in three years.

The robust professional league was one of the main reasons I stopped playing.  I haven't seen anything that kills communities faster than pro gamers, and Blizzard has been hell bent on shoving them in to every game since Starcraft, no matter how casual.  I was massively enjoying Overwatch in the beta and early release, but the focus on e-sports (and loot boxes) killed 75% of the fun of the game for me.

Would be nice if Overwatch 2 could bring some of that back, but between their hijinks in the original game and the whole workplace harassment lawsuit thing, I'm having trouble justifying even downloading it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on October 03, 2022, 07:14:50 PM
Riot and League of Legends would disagree? I believe it's the most popular it's ever been right now. I do agree that games that focus on balancing the competitive scene can turn off more casual players as nobody likes it when their favorite hero or heroes are nerfed and "casual" / non-ranked matchmaking can be problematic, not to mention all the same-team toxicity competitive team-based games engender, but some studios and games have somehow managed to do it so it is possible.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on October 03, 2022, 08:45:50 PM
I'm probably being too idiosyncratic, but LoL is basically like the poster example of what I would point to as a shitty community.  Regardless of how successful it is from a financial point of view, the community is largely not made of people I want to play with, and as a result, I drift away from the game, regardless of how much I WANT to enjoy it.  Overwatch is the same.  In beta (as with a lot of smaller communities) it was pretty fun and the mood was very positive.  As soon as the game released and professional Overwatch became a thing, though, that evaporated, and everyone was convinced they were going to be the next Overwatch superstar, and their incompetent teammates were the reason that wasn't happening.

Might be just rose colored glasses, but I've seen it happen with a lot of "e-sports" games, and it's one of the major reasons I rarely play anything multiplayer anymore.  Might just be me getting old, too, though, who knows.  Maybe this has been happening the whole time and I just never noticed it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on October 03, 2022, 09:31:37 PM
Playing PUG ranked mode(s) inevitably becomes toxic over time once you get past the newbie ranks because people don't like deranking or getting stuck in their current rank because of perceived bad play by their teammates. This is true in any competitive team-based PvP game. I like team-based MP too but for PvP games I usually only play larger-scale team games like Battlefield where having one extra mediocre (at best) player isn't likely going to make or break a team's chances. For small team games I play PvE games like Deep Rock Galactic, World War Z and Back 4 Blood (and waiting patiently for WH40K: Darktide) cause I don't like being yelled by some sweaty-try-hard-no-lifer-living-in-their-parents-basement either.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on October 04, 2022, 07:16:16 AM
I had the revelation at some point while listening to some shrieking try-hard in Overwatch that nobody had ever said anything in voice chat in that game that made me glad that voice chat existed (like, genuinely useful tactical information, clever asides, anything like that), and it had all just been mouth breathing and shrieking.  So I muted it and the game got more fun.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 04, 2022, 08:42:15 AM
Pubs, man.

When I was doing competitive Battlefield, team chat was amazing. Hell, just being the designated pilot, getting in a plane and using it properly, was revelatory in league play. Everyone taking a role and actually working together as a team.

But it made me realize how shitty pubs were and I basically stayed away from multiplayer after that. We did have some fun after matches or practice, just invading a pub server and destroying all the horrible spawn campers/plane squatters/"snipers"/etc.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 04, 2022, 09:33:32 AM
CDPR teases project in development: https://www.ign.com/articles/cd-projekt-red-new-games-witcher-cyberpunk-polaris-canis-majoris-sirius-orion-hadar

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The five games are:

Orion - "A codename for our next Cyberpunk game, which will take the Cyberpunk franchise further and continue harnessing the potential of this dark future universe." Orion will be developed by a brand new CD Projekt studio set up in the US.

Polaris - "A codename for the next installment in The Witcher series of games, which we recently announced was in pre-production. It is the beginning of a new saga: we aim to release two more Witcher games after Polaris, creating a new AAA RPG trilogy." The full trilogy is intended to be released "in a six-year period".

Canis Majoris - "A full-fledged Witcher game, separate to the new Witcher saga starting with Polaris. It will be developed by an external studio headed by experienced developers who have worked on past Witcher games." It's not currently clear which developer is working on this project.

Sirius - "A codename for the game developed by [The Molasses Flood], set in The Witcher universe and created with support from CDPR. It will differ from our past productions, offering multiplayer gameplay on top of a single-player experience including a campaign with quests and a story."

Hadar - "A codename for a third, entirely distinct IP, created from scratch within CDPR. The project is in the earliest stages of the creative process, which means we are not developing any game yet, but working exclusively on the foundation for this new setting."

I really liked 2077 despite its flaws, but a new studio spun up to create the next one makes it less exciting until we see who and what that means. Polaris is probably the only entry I'm cautiously optimistic about, the actual new Witcher game from CDPR proper.

Canis Majoris just sounds weird, like a Gwent side-game type thing, maybe? Hadar isn't even a thing at this point, so? Sirius does not sound like a thing I'd be interested, just based on the dev and multiplayer-forward aspects.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: 01101010 on October 04, 2022, 12:11:26 PM
I will be shocked if any of those see the light of day.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on October 04, 2022, 12:19:19 PM
Overwatch 2 releases and goes live.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on October 04, 2022, 12:25:18 PM
Overwatch is dead; long live Overwatch!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on October 04, 2022, 03:03:51 PM
I really liked 2077 despite its flaws, but a new studio spun up to create the next one makes it less exciting until we see who and what that means. Polaris is probably the only entry I'm cautiously optimistic about, the actual new Witcher game from CDPR proper.

2077 is the kind of game I really want a sequel to.  It's a neat setting with lots of fun ideas, but the first game has lots of room to improve.  Compared to something like Subnautica or Shovel Knight, where they nailed it pretty hard on the first try and any sequel is going to have a hard time doing anything other than just being "more of the same."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on October 04, 2022, 04:28:54 PM
I will be shocked if any of those see the light of day.

First 2 have a fighting chance. I'd love to see another Cyberpunk game. Despite the actually game being underwhelming, I did mostly like what I played. This could be a Fallout New Vegas to Fallout 3 situation (best case scenario, new studio could shit the bet, who knows).

Other 3 seem like fever dreams.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on October 04, 2022, 06:34:40 PM
Overwatch 2 releases and goes live.
5 seconds in and i'm pissed as fuck

"20000 players ahead of you" get the fuck out of here blizzard you cockmongers.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on October 04, 2022, 06:45:29 PM
double fuck:  there's no mystery heroes.  maybe it's a rotating mode in the arcade?

probably not though, because matches would come down to which side gets double tank first.

edit: weird, they moved it from arcade to non-competitive.  w/e, into the fun we go


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on October 04, 2022, 06:56:58 PM
it's pretty.  i guess that's nice.

it actually seems more responsive too, but that might be that "new game feel"


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on October 04, 2022, 07:00:34 PM
what in the chocolate covered fuck

i'm probably spoiled by deep rock galactic but i am genuinely nonplussed that easily 70% of the battlepass is locked behind premium.

is this some kind of fucking joke


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on October 04, 2022, 07:09:22 PM
That's the "price" for having the game be free -- it's loaded to the gills with "micro" transactions.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on October 04, 2022, 07:16:41 PM
the new push mode is... interesting?  haven't figured that out, we'll see i guess.

doesn't leave you queued in the mode after a match, which is odd.  why change that


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on October 04, 2022, 07:39:17 PM
There are still no tanks.  Oh there are characters they label as tanks, but they're just DPS with larger hitboxes and healthpools.

voice lines seem all new.  mostly an improvement?  not a fan of the new pharah but w/e

gun sounds are pretty good.

I'll get used to the new map graphics, but they're too... I'm not sure I can describe it.  Too blended?  Too softened?  Something. In any case, I like the crisp OW style over the more colorful/pastel/softened OW2 style.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on October 04, 2022, 07:47:51 PM
jesus fuck a half supported roadhog is very very difficult to kill.  his ult actually does a thing now too.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on October 04, 2022, 08:28:59 PM
you need a phone number to play overwatch 2.  if your phone is pre-paid, you can't play overwatch 2..


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on October 05, 2022, 08:47:28 AM
It is honestly pretty amazing how game companies have never figured out how to roll out a new service.  Every other type of software company has had to figure out how to make this work sometime over the last couple of decades, but here's Blizzard, one of the most successful game companies in the world, trying to flip the big switch on OW2 all at once and having it instantly fall on its face.  I'm sure it'll all be fine in a week and everyone will forget about it, since basically every game launch goes like this, but I don't know how the engineers who work for these companies aren't incredibly embarassed about being associated with these amateur hour shenanigans.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on October 05, 2022, 09:37:17 AM
Overall impression:  We waited 3 years for this?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on October 05, 2022, 04:30:41 PM
Don't mean to sound mean, but who waited 3 years for this? Since the announcement there hasn't been a single video that wasn't hugely underwhelming. It has been clear since the get go that this was just a big patch, not a new game in any meaningful way. It is so true that they even barely really call it Overwatch 2, in many parts of BattleNet and in the shortcut on your desktop this shows up simply as "Overwatch".


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on October 05, 2022, 05:20:16 PM
Some people are waiting for Story Mode to be released.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on October 05, 2022, 05:51:33 PM
Checking the OW Heroes release list:

https://overwatch.fandom.com/wiki/Heroes#List_of_Heroes_by_release_date

For OW Blizzard released, after launch, 11 heroes in ~4 years. OW2, which was announced 3 years ago, launched with only 3 new heroes.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Count Nerfedalot on October 05, 2022, 06:34:42 PM
Here' some "interesting" responses from the developer community regarding Google axing Stadia:
https://www.pcgamer.com/stadia-game-developers-had-no-idea-google-was-killing-stadia/ (https://www.pcgamer.com/stadia-game-developers-had-no-idea-google-was-killing-stadia/)

And just for grins, from that article, the Google family graveyard:
https://killedbygoogle.com/

Why would anyone ever trust Google again?  Seems like they are about as trustworthy as Russia!

It's been a long long journey from the beginning of the century when their corporate motto was "Don't be evil".


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on October 05, 2022, 07:35:50 PM
Why would anyone ever trust Google again?  Seems like they are about as trustworthy as Russia!

I mean, sure, but did anyone trust them this time?  "6,277 abandoned projects is understandable, but 6,278?  THAT'S TOO FAR!"

While I'm not really comfortable with cheering at people's failure, I'm kind of glad Stadia didn't take off.  The internet already siphons a lot of power away from consumers, and I'm not super happy about products which are furthering that trend.  I suspect that's more delaying the inevitable, though that might just be my pessimism talking.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on October 06, 2022, 03:21:34 PM
Yea, I don't really know anyone personally or online who was excited for Stadia. Even those who thought the general idea had merit expected, well, exactly this to happen because of Google's track record.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on October 06, 2022, 04:50:14 PM
Stadia dying reminded me that I think I still have an Infinium "I believe" t-shirt from E3 2004, and apparently those are going for like fifty bucks on ebay now.   :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Chimpy on October 11, 2022, 09:18:20 AM
It's kind of insane. We learned this: people want the music they want in the way they want it, they don't want it by the album unless the creator is fucking amazing and can deliver a whole coherent album. But the industry (and most artists) learned the wrong lesson, which was "they just want to steal everything, crush it all". Then Jobs comes along and says "look, see, people will pay money if you just give them the music the way they want it". Only he gets socked with DRM and his own control-freakery so that if you buy iTunes shit it's locked up on their device (which they stop supporting eventually) and the expectation becomes "if you want to 'own' it, we'll make you rebuy it constantly". So then we all say ok fine, we'll buy a streaming service. And then they just balkanize up again and fight what people want.

You tell me the price of listening to everything I want to listen to is a lot, if we want people to get paid off? I might be down with that. Might be better than some of the shit I pay for. You want to tell me that it's a lot but oh wait we just lost half the licenses or oh wait we have this degraded fucking technical standard that makes the music sound like shit or wait you have to listen to ads first despite this costing a lot? Fuck all of you. You paved paradise and put up a parking lot.

I know this is a late response, but Jobs didn't want DRM in the iTunes store catalog but the rights holders demanded it be included to gain the license so Apple put it in.

As Trippy mentioned, once Apple got to the point that they were the primary revenue stream for new music sales for a lot of the recording industry they bacsically said "yeah we aren't going to do the DRM anymore" and the recording industry caved because they didn't want to lose the revenue. They then added, at the same time, the ability to pay for iTunes Match which would go through your library and give you an iTunes version of every song you had, regardless of if you got it legally or no, that you could download onto multiple devices. That service is now rolled into the Apple Music subscription. I know several people who had collections full of 128k mp3s they got off Napster that got 192k aac files for all of them through that program. That service is kinda like money laundering for pirated music, in practice.

By then, almost all devices that supported .mp3 playback were also supporting .aac playback so the "you have to own an apple device" thing was largely moot as well.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on October 14, 2022, 11:01:48 AM
NVIDIA is "unlaunching" the 12 GB 4080 because the naming is too confusing.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/12gb-4080-unlaunch

As I wrote earlier the 16 GB 4080 should've been the 4080 Ti and that would've solved this issue. No idea why NVIDIA didn't do that.

RTX 4090 (24 GB) $1599
RTX 4080 16 GB $1199
RTX 4080 12 GB $899

The RTX 4080 16 GB really should be the RTX 4080 Ti since it has a lot more CUDA cores than the RTX 4080 12 GB. I.e. you are paying $300 for ~22% more CUDA cores as well as the extra 4 GB of RAM.

RTX 30 series price reference:

RTX 3090 (24 GB) $1499
RTX 3080 Ti (12 GB) $1199 (release price), $899 (current price)
RTX 3080 (10 GB) $699


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on October 14, 2022, 11:24:18 AM
The 30xx stuff is so fast, hard to imagine paying so much more for the 40 series.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on October 14, 2022, 12:02:01 PM
Are there even games where the difference is noticeable at this point?  It might be that I've just fallen completely out of touch with AAA gaming but I haven't upgraded anything in five years now and nothing I've played in that time has made me feel like I've got outdated hardware.  The only thing that even makes the fans spin up is poorly written web apps.  

It used to be that about three years after building a new computer I'd feel the need to upgrade the video card and/or memory, and about three years after that I'd bite the bullet and get a whole new box.  But that was back when it felt like games were making giant technological leaps every couple of years.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on October 14, 2022, 12:13:56 PM
The (current) 4000 series is for 4K (60 fps+) and/or ray traced gaming.

As for is it noticeable, yes it is. E.g. Games like Control and Cyberpunk at 4K w/RT and maxed settings can not hit 60 fps stable with previous gen cards but can with the 4090 (DLSS may be required).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 14, 2022, 02:59:10 PM
That's interesting because Control is so optimized I'm pretty sure it'll run on a potato.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on October 14, 2022, 03:03:14 PM
Sure, without RT on.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on October 24, 2022, 07:26:12 AM
I haven't upgraded anything in five years now

This statement cursed me and my PSU died last week after a power outage.   :awesome_for_real:

In the process of googling what to replace it with, I learned that the stock Aurora R6 PSU is widely considered to be a piece of garbage and often dies just after its warranty period regardless.

After replacing it, I learned that the occasional screen flicker I'd been seeing for years (always when switching browser tabs, never when gaming, so it was only ever very mildly annoying) and never found an explanation for was the PSU's fault all along.  It hasn't happened once since the operation; if I'd known that was the root cause I'd have dropped the $90 years ago.  So if you have an Alienware that's doing occasional weird shit and it's got the stock PSU, maybe give that a try.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on October 28, 2022, 12:52:44 PM
Probably should avoid the 4090 and also likely the 4080 until NVIDIA and/or their OEMs fix the current* issue with the ATX 2.0 to ATX 3.0 PCIe 5 power adapters. The 4090 has the new 12-pin PCIe Gen 5 power connector** and NVIDIA and it's OEMs are providing adapter cables that fit the 6/8-pin ATX 2.0 PCIe power connectors to the new 12-pin design. However at least some of those adapters including NVIDIA's own FE edition provided adapter cable are badly designed / made and can cause the adapter to overheat frying the adapter and sometimes the power connector on the board itself.

The fault appear to be that the 12-pin connector uses 6 of those pins for power but the adapter has 4 wires going to it's end of the 12 pin adapter meaning 4 wires are providing power to 6 pins -- i.e. there's not a one to one match between power wires and power pins -- and the wires are soldered to the pins rather than crimped into barrel sleeves or equivalent. So it doesn't take much force to weaken the solder on either of the wires on the "outside" causing a resistance increase and temperatures high enough to melt / fry the adapter.

* Pun not intended

* The board itself is PCIe Gen 4 in terms of its interface to the motherboard but it needs so much power that NVIDIA went with the Gen 5 power connector which is designed to provide more power natively in a single connector than the previous gen connectors


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on January 03, 2023, 08:01:48 AM
Diablo 4 has a release date for this year, and also will have a battle pass?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on January 03, 2023, 09:11:36 AM
Diablo 4 has a release date for this year, and also will have a battle pass?

Sincere condolences to the Diablo fans.  The battlepass nonsense absolutely killed Overwatch for me and if I had been looking forward to a new Diablo game this news would enrage me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on January 03, 2023, 10:01:29 AM
Multiple things are killing OW2 for me, and yeah, the battle pass is on that list.

I've been less than enthused about D4 up to this point, and hearing there is a battle pass is not helping my enthusiasm for sure.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on January 03, 2023, 11:59:51 AM
Multiple things are killing OW2 for me, and yeah, the battle pass is on that list.

I only spent about a week in OW2 so the gameplay differences didn't get enough time to annoy me.  Instead, the battlepass tentacles clutching at me and whispering "oh no if you stop playing now you'll miss the weekly achievement" triggered the "hey, I'm not getting paid enough for this" reflex and I just uninstalled.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 04, 2023, 11:26:20 AM
Battlepass isn't even on the list of things that would be problematic with me for Diablo, so no it doesn't enrage me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on January 04, 2023, 03:50:55 PM
You're going to play so much Diablo IV that you'll max out the Battlepass on day 1, so obviously it is not a concern to you.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on January 05, 2023, 07:56:23 AM
If OW2 is any indication, then the primary way of progressing through the battle pass will be accomplishing daily and weekly objectives that reward a chunk of battle pass XP.  It will most likely take weeks to complete, and that will require daily login, complete 3 objectives, plus grit your teeth and do a few things you're not particularly interested in doing to progress your weekly objectives.

Of course, if the battle pass is strictly cosmetics and other non-game affecting nonsense, then it's not relevant.  Can't say I trust Activision to stick to that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on January 05, 2023, 08:12:50 AM
New users playing OW2 had to grind out some of the characters IIRC, so I'd expect that in Diablo they'll have a couple of classes that are gated that way.  But I'd also expect that the "whales" who are willing to drop $500 on day one will be able to just get the Premium Battlepass that makes the whole thing moot.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 05, 2023, 01:45:53 PM
New users playing OW2 had to grind out some of the characters IIRC, so I'd expect that in Diablo they'll have a couple of classes that are gated that way.  But I'd also expect that the "whales" who are willing to drop $500 on day one will be able to just get the Premium Battlepass that makes the whole thing moot.

the whales get the battlepass with the CE for $100, noob


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on January 05, 2023, 04:28:49 PM
New users playing OW2 had to grind out some of the characters IIRC, so I'd expect that in Diablo they'll have a couple of classes that are gated that way.  But I'd also expect that the "whales" who are willing to drop $500 on day one will be able to just get the Premium Battlepass that makes the whole thing moot.

Considering that in D3 they sold the Necromancer class along with a couple other perks for $14.99, a chance to get the class through a battle pass instead would be a step up.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 07, 2023, 05:27:38 PM
I don't like Battle Passes, I find them annoying even when they are relatively harmless.
In Overwatch 2 though it's really not that big of a deal. I play a lot of Overwatch 2 so the Battle Pass can be totally ignored. Eventually I reached level 80, which is the maximum, and then the other cap which I think is 160, without ever paying attention to it. If you play the game (a game) because the game is good, then the Battle Pass with is irrelevant and overall fine. That should be the same with Diablo. But it bothers me more in Diablo 4 because it'll take away visual customization options from the looted gear to funnel it into paid skins (coming from the store AND the Battle Pass). In Overwatch I don't care, in Diablo I definitely do.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Count Nerfedalot on January 09, 2023, 02:54:12 PM
Interesting you say that Falc. These days avatar appearance is pretty high on my list in most games, but I really don't care about it at all in D3, because your character is so small and so often completely obscured by rainbow vomit combat effects all over the screen that you can't even tell what class you are, much less if your helm matches your boots.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 10, 2023, 01:06:34 PM
You are not wrong, I don't even notice it once I'm actually fighting. But I am stuck on "paper dolls" since UO and to be honest since childhood (actual paper dolls). I have always had strong feelings for looting something, and see that change my character appearance, even if only in the character selection screen.
Nothing turns me off more than looting a new and powerful piece of gear... that has the same appearance of the one before. In any game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on January 31, 2023, 11:43:54 AM
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/01/marvels-midnight-suns-update-helps-steam-deck-linux/

Let's hope this fix is a good one! Been wanting to play a synced game on Deck, but not wanting to jump through hoops to do so.

I was already directly running the exe to dodge the 2k launcher  :oh_i_see:

Quote
In the latest update they noted this:

General

General performance improvements
General stability fixes
Steam Deck:

Steam Deck Virtual Keyboard fixes
Steam/Deck/Link save fixes, including cloud syncing
Steam Deck stability fixes


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on February 08, 2023, 05:25:57 PM
Nintendo Direct today.

Zelda Tears of the Kingdom - $70 - 5/12/2023
Metroid Prime remaster - $40 - out today (surprise!)
Dead Cells Castlevania DLC - $10 - 3/6/2023

Other stuff here: https://kotaku.com/nintendo-direct-metroid-prime-pikmin-zelda-totk-trailer-1850090239

Also side note, there are now 8 Picross S games by Jupiter on the eShop, with two more themed Picross games by Jupiter there too. I'm a Picross addict.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on February 09, 2023, 11:02:59 AM
First three Etrian Odysseys updated for the Switch:   :awesome_for_real:
With automapping:  :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 09, 2023, 05:50:22 PM
Picross is the killer app for switch. Otherwise just get a steam deck.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on February 12, 2023, 04:15:54 PM
The Etrian Odyssey series is probably the best set of Wizardry clones out there. I'm skeptical of how they're handling the mapping, but the games are fantastic.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 02, 2023, 08:19:51 AM
Rading a thing about a thing that led to another thing, in which was buried this tidbit about ending development on Marvel's Avengers:

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When the game’s final patch is released on 31 March 2023, all of the game’s cosmetic content will be made free for all players. Previously, these items had to be purchased with real-world and/or in-game currency, as well as through a battle-pass-style progression system.

I enjoyed the game as a fun little beat-em-up, but hated the locked suits (more fashion = better imo). So...looks like I'll come back to that game at some point, after all.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 08, 2023, 06:38:32 AM
Oops wrong thread  :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 08, 2023, 01:19:07 PM
To make up for that, here's some possibly awesome news: Starfield gets a launch date, Sep 6 2023. I'm sure plenty of nerds are crying about the slip (again) but I'm all about extending dev time as needed (except for Chris Roberts ofc).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raWbElTCea8

Sure hope it doesn't suck! Really looking forward to this one.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Count Nerfedalot on March 11, 2023, 08:37:58 PM
I'm excited to see what they do with it.  I hope they don't neglect the modding environment, so others can fix and improve on it for years to come. And I hope it feels like a bigger world than Skyrim without the sameness of being filled with procedurally generated content (exactly like Skyrim and the Fallouts didn't do) that looks good in screenshots and is fun for a few hours but gets samey and boring really fast.  And I hope they fill that larger world with NPCs who aren't cookie cutter copies of each other.  But I worry about which one of those they have to cut corners on to get the game out before Star Citizen.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on March 12, 2023, 03:58:09 PM
Getting the game out before Star Citizen feels like a pretty easy challenge even without cutting a single corner.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Count Nerfedalot on March 12, 2023, 05:45:22 PM
yeah, that was possibly a bit of hyperbole  :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: carnifex27 on March 13, 2023, 08:18:24 AM
I hope it feels like a bigger world than Skyrim without the sameness of being filled with procedurally generated content (exactly like Skyrim and the Fallouts didn't do) that looks good in screenshots and is fun for a few hours but gets samey and boring really fast.  And I hope they fill that larger world with NPCs who aren't cookie cutter copies of each other.  But I worry about which one of those they have to cut corners on to get the game out before Star Citizen.
This has been a big concern of mine since they keep marketing with "over a thousand worlds". I'm guessing almost all of them are procedurally generated dungeon worlds, but would be absolutely thrilled to be proven wrong.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 13, 2023, 09:13:22 AM
I believe I heard it's just limited static maps for each planet, not anything like NMS. Which is probably fine, given how procedurally bland NMS is, in general.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Count Nerfedalot on March 15, 2023, 01:58:55 PM
NMS has an impressively wide variety of terrain, sadly almost completely wasted by having only one per planet.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 16, 2023, 06:34:05 AM
NMS has an impressively wide variety of terrain, sadly almost completely wasted by having only one per planet.
Also very little worth exploring. Procedural generation is great for quantity, not quality. I like NMS and jump in from time to time, but the lack of compelling discovery makes exploration boring and unrewarding.

There may be a middle way, with a massive, biome-based variegated generated planet that contains handcrafted regions (cities/dungeons) worth exploring. But even then, eventually folks would just stop exploring the parts without the handcrafted design, so I come back to the way it seems Starfield is going to handle it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Count Nerfedalot on March 17, 2023, 08:30:13 PM
Maybe. Minecraft is interesting to explore.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 21, 2023, 06:34:46 AM
Vanilla MC in particular also suffers from lack of unique stuff due to procedural generation. There can be some cool formations on some world gen parameters, but it's just happenstance and there is never anything supporting them (villages or quests or itemization etc). Even modded MC hits the barrier pretty quickly, it just has more elements to distract from the genericness. That's why peak MC for me is the story-based handcraft maps like Blightfall.

It's not a knock, I like big procedural worlds, too. But give me a well-crafted map stuffed with lore and interesting secrets to find, any day.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Count Nerfedalot on March 21, 2023, 04:07:04 PM
I'm not arguing against handcrafted being better than procedural, I agree.  Just saying that some procedural stuff can maintain interest longer than others, like Minecraft > NMS.  Also, there are some limited specific cases where procedural content can actually extend the lifespan of a game, such as the dungeons in original Diablo, Rogue, and the like.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on May 17, 2023, 06:45:13 AM
To the surprise of literally no one, Blizzard unceremoniously announced that they were canceling the PvE coop mode.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on May 17, 2023, 12:35:25 PM
GJ destroying the formerly thriving eSports scene for the feature you couldn't deliver.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Count Nerfedalot on May 18, 2023, 03:09:21 PM
To the surprise of literally no one, Blizzard unceremoniously announced that they were canceling the PvE coop mode.

um, what game are you talking about? Starfield has never claimed to have multiplayer and Diablo most definitely has it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on May 18, 2023, 03:22:12 PM
Overwatch 2. The whole point of releasing a "new" game was for the PvE as the PvP in OW2 is almost identical to 1 (PvP is basically "1.5").


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on May 19, 2023, 06:21:18 AM
Overwatch 2. The whole point of releasing a "new" game was for the PvE as the PvP in OW2 is almost identical to 1 (PvP is basically "1.5").

As Trippy said, OW2.

Don't forget they added predatory monetization in the form of a battlepass and a mostly functional store for skins!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on May 19, 2023, 08:20:22 AM
OW2 is F2P, though, so they do need some sort of monetization scheme.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on May 19, 2023, 01:17:23 PM
OW2 was the PvE mode, which is no longer going to be released.

What we have is reworked OW, with a store.  OW 1.1, or 1.5 if you're feeling generous.  With a worse matchmaker.

I can't speak to the gameplay experience too much, as swinging from "games you can't lose" to "games you can't win" so that the matchmaker can enforce a 50/50 win/loss rate really impacted my ability to enjoy the game and the gameplay.

Not to mention that Push was a terrible fucking game mode.  Absolute garbage that's only somewhat forgivable because it replaced 2CP, which was easily worse.

Shame, really.

And yes, I no longer play OW.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Setanta on May 19, 2023, 06:22:12 PM
OW2 gameplay is mediocre at best. I used to enjoy it now and then when it was the original game, but I just don't know why it feels bad, so I don't play it. The monetisation hasn't helped. It's not 2K Games level of abusive relationship, but not for want of trying. TBH, I just don't play Blizzard games anymore. I look fondly at Starcraft/Starcraft 2, cry every time I look at the hot mess that they made of WC3, HoTS is dead, I have D2 Reforged that I've never actually played, D3 I'm tempted by, WoW/Classic is just not worth the monthly fee - if they went F2P along the lines of Guild Wars 2 I might be more interested for nostalgia's sake. I'm sure that D4 will be good, but I just can't work up the energy to buy it. I really do feel that Blizzard has lost it's way.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on May 21, 2023, 04:42:15 PM
I generally agree with you Setanta, but D2R is excellent.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Setanta on May 23, 2023, 02:22:44 AM
I generally agree with you Setanta, but D2R is excellent.

I'm really not sure why I haven't played it. I loved the original version and played it to death. I have bought D2R on both PC and the Switch. I think it's just my general disappointment in Blizzard as a company that is holding me back.

I may dig it out and take it for a drive... except I have Zelda and a couple of other games demanding time... and the new season of Destint 2 begins tomorrow.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on May 23, 2023, 01:42:08 PM
You can't blame disdain for Blizzard then want to play an Activision game. :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on May 28, 2023, 08:20:08 AM
The gameplay of Overwatch 2 is an improved Overwatch 1. That one was good, this one is better thanks to less Crowd Control, one less character per match, and the role queue enforcing 2 support, 2dps, 1 tank.
Everything else outside of gameplay has for the most part been a regression.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on June 09, 2023, 03:12:10 PM
Wake up, wake up!  There's some Vampire: the Masquerade: Bloodlines 2 news!  Finally!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04O1AGH4Cvc

The news is that there will be some Vampire: the Masquerade: Bloodlines 2 news in September

MESSAGE ENDS


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Setanta on June 10, 2023, 05:56:34 AM
I hope they get it right. Didn't CCP have the rights to this at some point, and nearly broke EvE from neglect as a result?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on June 13, 2023, 07:29:46 AM
CCP owned White Wolf and was working on an MMO, I think?  Bloodlines 2 wasn't their project, though.