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Title: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on September 30, 2010, 12:23:45 PM
I think Velorath had the idea for this thread a while back, but I'll go ahead and do it.  Not everything should have it's own thread I suppose.

Beyond Good and Evil getting an HD remake.  (http://au.xboxlive.ign.com/articles/112/1124445p1.html?RSSwhen2010-09-30_090000&RSSid=1124445&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+ignfeeds/xboxlive+%28IGN+Xbox+Live%29)

This is great.  I've been wanting to replay and finally finish this game but didn't feel like hooking up my Gamecube, buying a wireless GC controller for the Wii, or using keyboard & mouse for the Steam version (has no gamepad support).  Great game that just oozes style.  Also has one of my favorite soundtracks.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: stu on September 30, 2010, 12:53:29 PM
That's good news since I missed it the first time, but was always curious.  I'm looking forward to replaying Stranger's Wrath in HD too.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Tarami on September 30, 2010, 01:07:03 PM
I played it a few years ago, but I never got what was so good about it. Bad? Not at all. But somehow deserving of a cult following? Not really. Some parts are really obnoxious.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Morfiend on September 30, 2010, 02:46:00 PM
I enjoyed the hell out of it. Will I buy a HD version? Maybe. Depending on price. I'm glad they are doing this though. Very underrated game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on September 30, 2010, 03:46:37 PM
I played it a few years ago, but I never got what was so good about it. Bad? Not at all. But somehow deserving of a cult following? Not really. Some parts are really obnoxious.

Heh, I'd say most games with a cult following have their obnoxious parts.  Some of the encounters (at least one chase and stealth sequence) I remember as a source of frustration.  I just remember it being a very unique and stylish game.  I had a lot of fun, but don't really remember why I ended up putting it down before I finished it.   Maybe I did finish.. I'm getting old.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: NiX on September 30, 2010, 03:55:26 PM
Wasn't the reason it got such a following was because it was a decent/good game that was doomed to never have a sequel right after launch?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on September 30, 2010, 04:10:49 PM
Supposedly a sequel is still being worked on.

In other news, the 3DS has been announced for a Feb. 26th launch in Japan and a March release for U.S. and Europe.  So far the only price that has been announced is for Japan, at 25000 yen (around $300), which is a little bit pricey.  I'm not generally interested in handhelds, but I hope they get some demo units in stores since I'm curious to see what the 3D is like (plus Nintendo really needs to get them out there for marketing since you can't really just put game trailers up online for games with a heavy 3D emphasis).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 01, 2010, 10:22:21 AM
Not everything should have it's own thread I suppose.

Very true.  Is this mostly for Game News that's too niche for the general rabble?  Want to get a handle on the intent before I begin to do my "thing".


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on October 02, 2010, 04:44:28 PM
Not everything should have it's own thread I suppose.

Very true.  Is this mostly for Game News that's too niche for the general rabble?  Want to get a handle on the intent before I begin to do my "thing".

Too niche works.  General intent was for stuff that doesn't generate enough noise on it's own to warrant its own thread.

Vel said it pretty well in another thread:

Quote from: Velorath
Personally I'd love to have a "useless gaming conversation" thread to just throw random news into that maybe doesn't need it's own thread, or to talk about stuff that might not fit into the "what are you playing" thread.  Sort of like what noisegrid was like, but without having to go to a different site, and deal with all the tag stuff.

Go nuts.  Just not Shockeye nuts.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: UnSub on October 03, 2010, 09:52:16 AM
I played it a few years ago, but I never got what was so good about it. Bad? Not at all. But somehow deserving of a cult following? Not really. Some parts are really obnoxious.

Agreed. I bought it expecting something incredible, but instead found a passable title with a few good strokes.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on October 06, 2010, 04:10:32 PM
Toys R Us will be running its annual Buy 2 Get 1 Free deal from the 10th to the 16th.  Medal of Honor is the only big release in that period, although Dead Rising 2, Castlevania: Lords of Shadow, NBA2K11, FIFA 11, and Enslaved: Odyssey to the West have all gotten decent reviews.  Not sure if this deal is running outside the U.S..

Panasonic recently announced that they are getting into the handheld gaming market. (http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/10/04/exclusive-panasonic-jumps-back-into-gaming-with-a-new-android-powered-handheld-the-jungle/)  Apparently a decade and a half was all it took for them to get the failure of the 3DO out of their heads.  Here's the short debut video. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM5kqH9PD6I)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 06, 2010, 05:50:33 PM
Demon's Souls is Atlus's best-selling game ever. To celebrate there will be Pure White tendency Oct 7 & 18 with the rest of the month being Pure Black.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: stu on October 06, 2010, 06:36:08 PM
 :heart:

Playing a female thief right now. Maybe my favorite yet. Daggers rock.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bunk on October 07, 2010, 08:29:28 AM
Fable 3 launches in three weeks and I appear to be the only person who cares. I went in to Gamestop to get a preorder, asked for the deluxe version. The lady looked at me and said that they haven't been able to take preorders for the deluxe version for over a month. So she processes a preorder for the normal version.

I'm a little confused by all of this, until I look at the reciept and realize she thought I asked for the Fallout deluxe version. I explain to her that I asked for Fable - "Oh, that game. Oh yea, you can get a deluxe preorder on that one, no problem". I believe she then rolled her eyes slightly.

When I was at PAX, the average wait to play a hands-on demo of any given game was 30 mins to 2 hours. I walked up to where they had Fable 3 running, looked around and asked someone "where's the lineup for Fable 3"? He advised me that he was the line. Five minutes later I was playing the game.

Oh well, at least I'll enjoy it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on October 07, 2010, 08:36:27 AM

Fable 3 launches in three weeks and I appear to be the only person who cares. I went in to Gamestop to get a preorder, asked for the deluxe version. The lady looked at me and said that they haven't been able to take preorders for the deluxe version for over a month. So she processes a preorder for the normal version.

I'm a little confused by all of this, until I look at the reciept and realize she thought I asked for the Fallout deluxe version. I explain to her that I asked for Fable - "Oh, that game. Oh yea, you can get a deluxe preorder on that one, no problem". I believe she then rolled her eyes slightly.

When I was at PAX, the average wait to play a hands-on demo of any given game was 30 mins to 2 hours. I walked up to where they had Fable 3 running, looked around and asked someone "where's the lineup for Fable 3"? He advised me that he was the line. Five minutes later I was playing the game.

Oh well, at least I'll enjoy it.

I'll be on Fable 3 like stink on shit. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: NiX on October 07, 2010, 08:40:32 AM
Fable 3 launches in three weeks and I appear to be the only person who cares.

I hope you're not surprised by this. Given Molyneux's track record it's a given people would be hesitant about Fable 3 living up to anything he says. That being said, I'll be playing it because I hold out hope for this kingdom running segment. If he screws that up or it's an after thought, I'll probably never believe a damn thing that man says ever again.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on October 07, 2010, 09:19:52 AM
I don't xbox, but I'll play Fable 3 on PC if they release Fable 2 on PC.  Which is not likely to happen.  Though, I had fun with 1.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: PkProjects on October 07, 2010, 01:18:31 PM
It's been so long between fable 1 and 2, and now they're releasing 3 shortly after. I can hardly imagine this game having a that much improved gameplay, look or different functions for that matter. I'll wait till it's released and get some reviews and gameplay vids before actually buying.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Segoris on October 07, 2010, 02:55:56 PM
What's that you say? You want to be a hero to the downtrodden but don't own a ps3/360? You wish to wear the thong of justice even with your gaming systems being limited to the pc? Steam has you covered, soon to be heroes!

Yeah, Deathspank coming to Steam in about 2 weeks, as well as another game called Shank which appears to be a side scrolling game along the same comedic lines as Deathspank. I don't know how good Shank will be, but for those that missed it...pick up Deathspank (most likely want to use a controller for it though as I don't think I'd want to play that with a kb/m).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on October 07, 2010, 03:25:50 PM
Fable 3 launches in three weeks and I appear to be the only person who cares.

Looking forward to Fable 3 as well - both of the others were greater than the sum of their (sometimes janky as hell) parts for me, despite not having as many parts as initially promised.  With Fallout New Vegas coming out the week before, it may have to wait a bit before I get to play it, though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on October 07, 2010, 03:31:17 PM
Silicon Knights announced their next game. (http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/65916)  Rather than a sequel to Eternal Darkness or Too Human, it looks like they're making an X-Men game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 07, 2010, 03:34:36 PM
I am not to be trusted to comment since I liked Too Human.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on October 07, 2010, 03:35:25 PM
Yah, that's the only thing that may keep me from being day 1 with Fable 3.  I had a lot of fun with both Fable games.  They're never going to make my all time list, but I had enough fun for about a play through and a half for each one (stalled out on my evil tries both times).

But with Fallout: NV.. it's Obsidian.  The chances of it requiring 200% more system than advertised and being a buggy shitpile are pretty high, especially with an engine that's somewhat of a pig already.  I'll be waiting at least a week if not more on New Vegas, despite my love for everything Fallout.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bunk on October 07, 2010, 04:28:33 PM
It's been so long between fable 1 and 2, and now they're releasing 3 shortly after. I can hardly imagine this game having a that much improved gameplay, look or different functions for that matter. I'll wait till it's released and get some reviews and gameplay vids before actually buying.

Based on what I played at PAX - noticibly improved graphics on the characters and a fully voiced main character are two of the major differences. They are also going on and on about how many of the interactions actualy involve physically interacting with the other "actor" rather than just dancing in front of them.

Oh, and aparently further improvements to the multiplayer options - to the point that you can marry and have kids with another player.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on October 07, 2010, 04:31:05 PM
Am I the only one who sees Fable slowly converging with Second Life?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on October 07, 2010, 04:43:41 PM


But with Fallout: NV.. it's Obsidian.  The chances of it requiring 200% more system than advertised and being a buggy shitpile are pretty high, especially with an engine that's somewhat of a pig already.  I'll be waiting at least a week if not more on New Vegas, despite my love for everything Fallout.

I promised myself to wait until the GOTY is out for it.  No matter how awesome it is...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Koyasha on October 07, 2010, 04:56:51 PM
I don't understand the lack of general interest in Fable 3.  I enjoyed 1 and 2, and 2 was vastly improved over 1.  Even if 3 is just a new story and otherwise pretty much the same as 2, worth it as far as I can tell, Fable 2 was a pretty good game (except for some of the minigame shit, but eh).  I mean, sure, it might not have lived up to whatever the hell it was that was promised (I didn't really pay much attention) but it was definitely a good game.  I've played through it at least 3 times.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on October 07, 2010, 05:08:08 PM
I found 1 bad enough that I wasn't interested in trying 2 or 3, personally.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on October 07, 2010, 05:14:10 PM
I liked Fable 2, just not enough to where I feel I need to pick up 3 right at release.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on October 07, 2010, 06:19:46 PM
I don't know if it'll be a day one purchase, but I'm looking forward to Fable 3 simply so I can play my daughter.  The one whose favorite location was the Temple of Evil and her favorite toy was a teddy bear. :heart:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ffc on October 07, 2010, 10:41:38 PM
Twice I tried to get into Fable and twice I failed.  I come in all smiles ready for action rpg goodies and the game ends up grating on me.  2's "co-op" was my final lesson and I have no desire for a threepeat.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bunk on October 08, 2010, 04:18:19 PM
I was so proud when I passed my evil and childish genes on to my first daughter. Her favorite thing was my evil laugh.

Then my son came. And he was moron who liked to eat chocolate. Not an evil bone in his body - I was so disappointed.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: patience on October 08, 2010, 05:55:27 PM
Someone throws down a list of their biggest concerns for companies or their business ventures that are going to fail  (http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/10/10-games-businesses-that-are-doomed/)(without a dramatic course correction) and collapse hard.

1. Codemasters
2. Miniclip
3. Shouldn't have bothered wasting a slot IMO
4. Virgin Gaming
5. Trion Worlds
6. OnLive
7. CCP's Dust 514
8. 38 Studios (the details about their shenanigan in this one ended up infuriating me slightly)
9. GAME (Boutique Retailers in general)
10. Kotick's Dream of Subscriptions for CoD

I kind of feel bad I haven't heard about a third of these companies till now especially Miniclip.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on October 09, 2010, 02:36:56 PM
The old X-Men arcade game is coming to XBLA and PSN with 6 player online co-op (http://www.1up.com/news/konami-x-men-arcade-game-coming).

Also... M.O.D.O.K. in Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/nycc-10-marvel-vs/705910).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on October 09, 2010, 02:41:53 PM
This is random, but does anyone know anything about Borderlands DLC?  I haven't bought any of it, and I'm gonna wait for a Steam sale (I know there was one recently, so it might be a while) either way, but I just reinstalled the game on a lark and am having fun with it again, so was wondering if any of the DLC adds a lot.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: lesion on October 09, 2010, 02:50:13 PM
Knoxx has a lot of fun stuff and an actual final boss worth a crap. It also has roads paved with misery. If you can get past minutes of travel time (one waypoint for the entire thing) it's probably the best of the bunch.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Furiously on October 09, 2010, 03:43:54 PM
Secret armory was supposed to be decent. Have not heard about the claptrap one. Zombies and the arenas one you can skip.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: funcro on October 09, 2010, 05:18:13 PM
Borderlands DLC adds SecuROM and a five installation limit.  On Steam I can't find a way to install Borderlands without also installing all the DLC I purchased, so now I can't even play the base game anymore.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on October 10, 2010, 03:52:27 AM
I bought the Borderlands DLC when it was on sale on Steam a short while back, but I was playing other stuff at the time.  Then I loaded it up again and had a lot of problems crashing (I had upgraded a few components of my PC since the last time I played).  After I got all that worked out, I hopped onto my lv. 45 character in the middle of the 2nd playthrough and couldn't remember what I was doing or where everything was since I hadn't played in months, and didn't know where to go for all the new content.  I fully intend to get around to it at some point.

I am not to be trusted to comment since I liked Too Human.

Hey, same here.  I'm a little disappointed it doesn't seem like they're making a sequel.  I think with a few minor tweaks, and if they hired some decent people to work on the story, they might have had something.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on October 10, 2010, 04:54:42 AM
This is random, but does anyone know anything about Borderlands DLC?  I haven't bought any of it, and I'm gonna wait for a Steam sale (I know there was one recently, so it might be a while) either way, but I just reinstalled the game on a lark and am having fun with it again, so was wondering if any of the DLC adds a lot.
I've played through the first three (well I haven't really finished the 2nd one yet).

In terms of gameplay I liked The Zombie Island of Dr. Ned the best. Mad Moxxi's Underdome Riot I used mostly just for the bank slots, though hacking your character with an editor is actually easier and more efficient than traveling back and forth to the bank. The Secret Armory of General Knoxx has the best loot but is fundamentally broken unless you can put in long play time sessions because there's only one respawn spot and travel distances are extremely long and tedious. Island of Dr. Ned actually has the same single respawn spot issue (apparently it's a limitation with the DLC code on the consoles) but it has a proper "hub and spoke" design with much shorter travel distances.

Both Island and Riot have seriously fucked up copy protection schemes. It literally took me hours to figure out how to get those two DLCs installed properly. Armory does not have that issue.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on October 10, 2010, 08:26:11 AM
Ned has a really amusing story, plus with it being near Halloween again feels seasonally appropriate.  The hordes of zombies you can face gets pretty fun.  Moxi's is only good if you liked the arena challenge later in the first game, really need the extra skill points, or you like absolutely insane pretty women with questionable fashion sense.  In Knoxx the travel sucks as everyone mentioned, but the shooting and critters are fun, and it ties in with the original pretty well.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shrike on October 10, 2010, 03:36:35 PM
Basically, what everyone else has said about Borderlands. Zombie Island is a must have. Dead Haven and the end area are just too cool for words, if you're in a zombie-shooting state of mind. Knoxx is good, but the travel is kinda of a pain. I'm sorta used to to from doing Armory runs. The Crimson Lance arena is huge fun for a group, and the so-called optional boss is  :ye_gods:. I haven't done much with the Robolution. Waiting for the new level cap and rebalancing before I tackle that one. I'd take a pass on Moxxi's unless you simply must have the bank or the 2 extra talent points (good luck on that second point...).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on October 13, 2010, 03:12:08 PM
Looks like Gran Turismo 5 got delayed again.   :heartbreak:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on October 13, 2010, 03:43:58 PM
Looks like Gran Turismo 5 got delayed again.   :heartbreak:

(http://i51.tinypic.com/9j0z9x.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 14, 2010, 09:08:30 AM
This is actually OK.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on October 14, 2010, 09:14:11 AM
Not like I had time to play this anyway until later.  Anyway, meh.  GT5 has taken so long to come out, I've sorta lost interest.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goreschach on October 14, 2010, 09:22:14 PM
Looks like Gran Turismo 5 got delayed again.   :heartbreak:

(http://i51.tinypic.com/9j0z9x.jpg)


Awesome.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Segoris on October 14, 2010, 09:34:56 PM
So there's a GOTY edition of Borderlands that comes with a bonus offer. The bonus?


Maybe it's just me, but I giggled thinking about how sad the empty promises from companies can really get.

In other news, dude runs sugar-momma of a girlfriend off the road when she takes away his Playstation. (http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/10/14/5290992-girl-takes-playstation-boy-runs-her-off-road)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on October 15, 2010, 08:38:34 AM
If you bought Borderlands on Steam and look on the DLC tab, you already have that access.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on October 15, 2010, 08:51:29 AM
I heard the team (100+ people??) that was doing Pirates of the Caribbean: Armada of the Damned was let go and the game is canned.  The premise of the game looked awesome and some of the screenies looked downright beautiful.  I was actually looking forward to seeing how that one did.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ard on October 15, 2010, 02:11:34 PM
Looks like Uncharted 2 is having a big multiplayer bonus day tomorrow.  x5 xp and a bonus skin.  Seems to be odd timing since the game of the year edition doesn't come out until next week. 

http://www.naughtydog.com/site/post/uncharted_2_one_year_anniversary_event_details/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on October 15, 2010, 02:52:19 PM
Fable 2 appears to be free for download at the moment (360 version).

http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/games/media/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d8024d5307f1/?p=1&of=6&bt=0&sb=1&did=00000001-0000-4000-8000-00004d5307f1


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on October 19, 2010, 10:42:34 AM
Sweet Jesus, a Professor Layton/Ace Attorney crossover game is in the works (http://layton-vs-gyakuten.jp/).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on October 20, 2010, 02:54:28 AM
Sweet Jesus, a Professor Layton/Ace Attorney crossover game is in the works (http://layton-vs-gyakuten.jp/).

Some fanfic writer out there somewhere just had a heart attack.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Xuri on October 20, 2010, 11:57:19 AM
Bloodline Champions Closed Beta Event (http://www.fileplanet.com/promotions/bloodline-champions/)

Fileplanet are giving away a limited amount of keys to the closed beta of Bloodline Champions (http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodline_Champions) (by Stunlock Studios, published by Funcom) today, though it does seem as if it currently requires a Fileplanet subscription to get a key...

Edit: Apparently non-subscribers will get access to keys later today.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 20, 2010, 01:44:18 PM
The Castlevania HD DLC is out, somehow I missed the drop-day.  I put 23 minutes into it today.  It's basically 400 points for Chapter 7: a new Egyptian map/boss and a new enemy (mummy).  Perhaps new items as well, I got two skull masks where before I had none, and one or two weapons I didn't have, but I haven't gotten TOO far into the grind on it.  For you Soma players, there are also quite a few Yoricks.  Lack of a new character is disappointing to some who were expecting it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on October 20, 2010, 02:03:20 PM
This is random, but does anyone know anything about Borderlands DLC?  I haven't bought any of it, and I'm gonna wait for a Steam sale (I know there was one recently, so it might be a while) either way, but I just reinstalled the game on a lark and am having fun with it again, so was wondering if any of the DLC adds a lot.
I've played through the first three (well I haven't really finished the 2nd one yet).

In terms of gameplay I liked The Zombie Island of Dr. Ned the best. Mad Moxxi's Underdome Riot I used mostly just for the bank slots, though hacking your character with an editor is actually easier and more efficient than traveling back and forth to the bank. The Secret Armory of General Knoxx has the best loot but is fundamentally broken unless you can put in long play time sessions because there's only one respawn spot and travel distances are extremely long and tedious. Island of Dr. Ned actually has the same single respawn spot issue (apparently it's a limitation with the DLC code on the consoles) but it has a proper "hub and spoke" design with much shorter travel distances.

Both Island and Riot have seriously fucked up copy protection schemes. It literally took me hours to figure out how to get those two DLCs installed properly. Armory does not have that issue.


Just to report back on this:

A friend of mine bought Borderlands so we've been playing together.  He wanted bank slots badly, so we both got Mad Moxxi's and haven't had any trouble with it really.  Going through the loading screen to get to the bank isn't really a big deal, and there are fast travel hubs to get there all over the place, so it hasn't been a problem.  I also don't know about the copy protection, but we got our copies on steam and it installed and has had 0 issues.  I'm actually pretty pleased with it thus far.

We plan on picking up the other DLC as we feel compelled (probably after our first playthrough of the normal game). 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on October 20, 2010, 02:36:53 PM
My problem with Moxi's is I always die on the Wave 5 final boss when it has a sliver of health left.  And if you're alone, that's it.  I also forget guns spawn after boss kills in the middle.  It gets really discouraging.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ghost on October 20, 2010, 02:56:14 PM
I read the descriptions on the Borderlands DLC and it sounds as if one of them is some arena style multiplayer content.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: fuser on October 20, 2010, 03:52:35 PM
Looks like Gran Turismo 5 got delayed again.   :heartbreak:

I like the rumor that its pushed out due to the firmware fisaco so they had to build against 3.50 and remaster everything. Seems pretty sound


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on October 20, 2010, 05:49:52 PM
I read the descriptions on the Borderlands DLC and it sounds as if one of them is some arena style multiplayer content.
Moxxi's Underdome Riot.  It's co-op multi-player, just like the rest of the game.  Waves of semi-random enemies, with random effects for each round (pistols do more damage, everything else less; mobs have increased shield regen; reduced accuracy; etc.).  Beat 25 total waves in each of three arenas and get a skill point.  Also bank slots.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on October 22, 2010, 09:26:46 PM
Costume Quest is absurdly cute and a lot of fun.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on October 22, 2010, 10:50:49 PM
I'll be on Fable 3 like stink on shit. 

Like Molyneaux' promises, than?

With all these HD remakes, has there been any mention of either a Jak or Ratchet HD collection for PS3?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on October 22, 2010, 10:55:25 PM
This is random, but does anyone know anything about Borderlands DLC?  I haven't bought any of it, and I'm gonna wait for a Steam sale (I know there was one recently, so it might be a while) either way, but I just reinstalled the game on a lark and am having fun with it again, so was wondering if any of the DLC adds a lot.

I liked the Zombie Island. Mad Moxxi is just arena battles - fun if you have a co-op partner and can get it discounted on XBL or Steam or whatever. General Knoxx seems a bit more hefty, but every quest seems to involve you physically driving for 15 minutes to get to the quest location to start up. Haven't tried the Claptrap Red Uprising one, though.

GOTY pack is all over the place. Might be cheaper than buying all the DLC, depending on where you look?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on October 22, 2010, 10:56:41 PM
Borderlands DLC adds SecuROM and a five installation limit.  On Steam I can't find a way to install Borderlands without also installing all the DLC I purchased, so now I can't even play the base game anymore.

I did not know that. Good job I bought the DLC and installed it, then. ;p



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on October 25, 2010, 03:52:10 AM
Random thing I learned during Blizzcon line-waiting activity: The 3rd Professor Layton game has really great music. It reminds me a lot of the music from the Jeremy Brett Sherlock Holmes TV show (I suspect that is deliberate.)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Murgos on October 25, 2010, 06:35:52 AM
I'll be on Fable 3 like stink on shit. 

Like Molyneaux' promises, than?

With all these HD remakes, has there been any mention of either a Jak or Ratchet HD collection for PS3?

Molyneaux over promises?  Sure.  But Fable II was still actually pretty good.  Black and White was actually kinda fun.  Etc... etc...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on October 25, 2010, 08:39:16 AM
I'll be on Fable 3 like stink on shit. 

Like Molyneaux' promises, than?

With all these HD remakes, has there been any mention of either a Jak or Ratchet HD collection for PS3?

Molyneaux over promises?  Sure.  But Fable II was still actually pretty good.  Black and White was actually kinda fun.  Etc... etc...

Being disappointed by all the promises assumes that I listen to them in the first place.  I really lliked Fable 2, and have no reason to think that I won't like 3 just as much.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on October 25, 2010, 09:43:00 AM


Being disappointed by all the promises assumes that I listen to them in the first place. 

As an aside, I think this is one of the keys to enjoying games - not expecting much.  One of the reasons I've been liking Civ 5 while a lot of people here have been complaining is because I really just knew hexed based, 1 unit per tile, and what civs they were adding.   Enjoying it quite a bunch.

Similarly, the list of games that I've disliked that were actually decent games, simply because they didn't live up to my imaginary version of what the game should be is growing insanely long now.

Granted, promised features are promised features, I suppose its fair to have expectations based on them ,but that isn't really my point here.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 25, 2010, 11:28:44 AM
My lack of enjoyment in Civ V has nothing to do with pre-launch hype. It's that while adding lots of cool stuff, the game has been getting steadily less enjoyable with each iteration. I'd say that it's the vaseline lens of time, but then Kael showed up and showed everyone how much fun the game could be. Firaxis not snapping him up is a tragic loss.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sjofn on October 26, 2010, 12:45:41 AM
Sims 3 expansion tomorrow! I'm excited!  :drillf:

This one is basically the Sims 3 version of Hot Date with a bit of Superstar thrown in. It sounds like it's a lot more THE SIMS than the last two expansions (I liked them fine but it felt like the devs had forgotten why people play the goddamn Sims in the first place. Hint: It's not for doing quests or essentially grinding faction.) so I am hoping I can find a copy tomorrow at our Target. I hate EA's downloader like poison, otherwise I'd get it that way. Oh well!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: stu on October 27, 2010, 01:15:59 AM
PSP Phone? I'm in.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/26/the-playstation-phone/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ffc on October 27, 2010, 04:23:01 AM
Majin and the Forsaken Kingdom demo is out.  Random gameplay clip. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ6uWwrQ2Jc&sns=em)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Tarami on October 27, 2010, 06:34:34 AM
Sims 3 expansion tomorrow! I'm excited!  :drillf:

This one is basically the Sims 3 version of Hot Date with a bit of Superstar thrown in. It sounds like it's a lot more THE SIMS than the last two expansions (I liked them fine but it felt like the devs had forgotten why people play the goddamn Sims in the first place. Hint: It's not for doing quests or essentially grinding faction.) so I am hoping I can find a copy tomorrow at our Target. I hate EA's downloader like poison, otherwise I'd get it that way. Oh well!
Hurray! :drillf: Don't keep tabs on Sims at all, I just play until I burn out with each expansion.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 27, 2010, 08:04:42 AM
Sims 3 expansion tomorrow! I'm excited!  :drillf:

You know, this is still unplayable on my wife's computer, which isn't crappy at all unless the ATI 5780 is somehow incompatible.  Problem is that I haven't made the time to engage the MTS community for help in resolving the issue(s).  I've done a few things such as scan for broken and incompatible UC, and TS3 is installed on a SSD, and her machine has 8GB of RAM.  I've decided some time ago that it's just a shitty program but she tells me that other people seem to be able to play it on crap machines.  Very frustrating.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on October 27, 2010, 11:13:41 AM
It doesn't work on one of my boxes either; tells me I don't have a video card installed but they list my card (GeForce 8600 GT) as a compatible one.  :uhrr:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bokonon on October 27, 2010, 11:35:11 AM
Got Rockband 3 last night. Aside from not paid much attention to the finer differences from RB2, it's pretty sweet. The UI works better, with ACTUAL SONG FILTERING. The songs are poppier, which is fine, because I'm not good enough at, nor particularly enjoy, the insane metal stuff.

Just need to recalibrate again (you'd think I'd learn by now to write down my old calibration settings).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on October 27, 2010, 12:50:29 PM
I, also, got RB3 last night.  Only had enough time to play through one of the very first challenges (a 12 song setlist).  Other than the UI, the thing RB does better than the entire GH series?  They know how to pick songs that are fun to play.  GH picks songs you'd think are cool, but end up being a) boring, b) ugly and/or c) too damn hard.

I find it a little strange that they are releasing it without having the Pro instruments ready.  The keyboard they have (not sure if I'll pick that up, even though it is getting nice reviews), but no guitar until the middle of November, and that is the ones with the buttons?  Fucking dumb.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 27, 2010, 01:18:12 PM
Yeah, the button guitar looks like the first gen midi guitars from the 80s. The Squier or whatever the real guitar is should be sweet, though. If it ever gets released for reals.

Of course, I'm thinking more about someone hacking it for a cheap midi guitar, though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on October 27, 2010, 01:28:26 PM
No need to hack, it is compatible with MIDI devices right out of the box.

And everything I've read leads me to believe that the real one is actually in the works.  Some other lame music game actually already has one, so I don't think technology is the problem.  I imagine I will ultimately get both versions, because I'm just that much of a sorry ass fanboi.

I'm more than a little shocked that you aren't shitting all over this subject, considering your background.  Interesting.  For myself, these silly living room plastic guitar playing games have reinvigorated my love for music and exposed me to knew tastes (quite outside of the actual games) and I really, REALLY want to learn guitar, but for a number of reasons I haven't taken the plunge.  I am hoping all of this helps me put a foot in the proverbial door.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on October 27, 2010, 01:46:11 PM
I keep waiting patiently for this genre to die.  It just won't.   :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 27, 2010, 01:52:18 PM
Cyrrex, I'm finally able to be ok with the dumb genre now :) I imagine it will continue to suck for real musicians, but the addition of the real guitar might be interesting.

I'm thinking more about the fact that in a few years there will be some new blood at the open mic nights, finally.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on October 27, 2010, 02:10:10 PM
If the fancy guitar controller gives me a way to build my fretboard muscles back up while playing a video game, I will be all over that.  I've fallen very much out of practice with the real thing, and when I sporadically pick it back up I'm always discouraged by the double whammy of how I don't remember stuff and how my fingers are so soft and weak they start hurting after half an hour.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on October 27, 2010, 02:18:14 PM
I keep waiting patiently for this genre to die.  It just won't.   :oh_i_see:

Let some joy into your life, Mr. Grinch!

After an hour or so of messing around with the pro keys, I think I might finally be able to make the leap to not totally sucking. Roundabout is ridiculous though. Damn you, Rick Wakeman!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on October 27, 2010, 02:19:32 PM
After an hour or so of messing around with the pro keys, I think I might finally be able to make the leap to not totally sucking. Roundabout is ridiculous though. Damn you, Rick Wakeman!

Wait....do you have a Pro guitar?  If so, how?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on October 27, 2010, 02:24:53 PM
After an hour or so of messing around with the pro keys, I think I might finally be able to make the leap to not totally sucking. Roundabout is ridiculous though. Damn you, Rick Wakeman!

Wait....do you have a Pro guitar?  If so, how?

Keys = keyboard.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on October 27, 2010, 03:51:42 PM
Ah, duh.  Let me know how that works out.  I haven't bought the keyboard, but if it's as fun as they are saying...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sjofn on October 27, 2010, 05:13:55 PM
Hurray! :drillf: Don't keep tabs on Sims at all, I just play until I burn out with each expansion.

Yeah, that's usually how I play, I just have an internal "it's about time for a new expansion for the Sims" clock that was well established during the Sims 2.

This new expansion is WAY more Sims-y than the past two, I am quite happy. If I didn't like constructing bars and dance clubs and stuff, I might be a little annoyed that they didn't provide any pre-made small clubs/bars/whatever (the ones they provide are almost all HUGE and don't fit on lots in the previous neighborhoods), but aside from that it's pretty awesome.  :heart:

I've never had problems with Sims 3 running that other people have had, but the people who've had those issues have my sympathies, because that is damn annoying.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on October 31, 2010, 10:51:43 AM
As good a place as any -

Target's buy 2 get 1 free started today.

Picked up Fallout: New Vegas, Fable 3 and Dead Rising 2 for $120.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on November 01, 2010, 07:51:15 AM
As good a place as any -

Target's buy 2 get 1 free started today.

Picked up Fallout: New Vegas, Fable 3 and Dead Rising 2 for $120.

Funny, those were just the 3 games I was thinking of picking up at Target today!  Are you me, but like a day in the future?  And if so, what do we think about DR2 so far?  You'll remember that we had complaints about the last one.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on November 01, 2010, 08:52:55 AM
He's you, after using a portal in the Nether.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on November 01, 2010, 09:21:06 AM
As good a place as any -

Target's buy 2 get 1 free started today.

Picked up Fallout: New Vegas, Fable 3 and Dead Rising 2 for $120.

Funny, those were just the 3 games I was thinking of picking up at Target today!  Are you me, but like a day in the future?  And if so, what do we think about DR2 so far?  You'll remember that we had complaints about the last one.

What's funny is of the 3, DR2 is the first one I opened and played.  It seems decent, always fun to kill zombies.  The timer stuff is still annoying. Sometimes you just wanna hack up some zombies, not run to save your daughter.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on November 01, 2010, 09:53:13 AM
FYI:
Amazon buy 3 for the price of 2 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html//ref=bt_atcg_mine_mm?ie=UTF8&plgroup=1&docId=1000626371&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=0RM9Y6XS688QG472G9B6&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1278774282&pf_rd_i=409566)


Larger selection than target, and better prices anyways, also - PC games in there.

I think I got the f13 ref link right? Admin want to edit it?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Special J on November 02, 2010, 09:19:21 AM
I'm pumped about playing RB3 but for some reason the keyboard hasn't worked its way to Canada.  So I'm holding off until I can get the bundle.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on November 02, 2010, 09:38:57 AM
FYI:
Amazon buy 3 for the price of 2 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html//ref=bt_atcg_mine_mm?ie=UTF8&plgroup=1&docId=1000626371&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=0RM9Y6XS688QG472G9B6&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1278774282&pf_rd_i=409566)


Larger selection than target, and better prices anyways, also - PC games in there.

I think I got the f13 ref link right? Admin want to edit it?

Thanks for that link, I just ordered Fable:Lost Chapters, NWN2 Gold, and Fallout 3 for a total of $47.50

Good deals.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on November 15, 2010, 02:49:07 PM
GOG just added Baldur's Gate 2 Complete.  This pretty completes the collection of Bioware/Black Isle AD&D stuff on GOG since Icewind Dale II complete and NWN: Diamond were also added in recent weeks.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on November 15, 2010, 02:54:24 PM
Blizzard has some job postings up that seem to imply they're going to port Diablo 3 to consoles.

Example: http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/careers/posting.html?id=10000BB


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Strazos on November 15, 2010, 08:12:53 PM
GOG just added Baldur's Gate 2 Complete.  This pretty completes the collection of Bioware/Black Isle AD&D stuff on GOG since Icewind Dale II complete and NWN: Diamond were also added in recent weeks.

Oh wow. Is it mod-able at all? Some of my discs are rather questionable at this point, and back-ups would be SNAZZY.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on November 15, 2010, 09:27:01 PM
GOG just added Baldur's Gate 2 Complete.  This pretty completes the collection of Bioware/Black Isle AD&D stuff on GOG since Icewind Dale II complete and NWN: Diamond were also added in recent weeks.

Oh wow. Is it mod-able at all? Some of my discs are rather questionable at this point, and back-ups would be SNAZZY.

From what I've glanced at on the GOG Baldur's Gate forum, it looks like you can mod both Baldur's Gate games.  I also have Torment and all the BG and IWD stuff on disc, but I'm tempted to pick these up on GOG so I don't have to go through the trouble of digging these games out whenever I feel like playing them.  I'll probably wait a while and see if they have any sort of holiday deals this year though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on November 17, 2010, 01:14:29 PM
GOG just added Baldur's Gate 2 Complete.  This pretty completes the collection of Bioware/Black Isle AD&D stuff on GOG since Icewind Dale II complete and NWN: Diamond were also added in recent weeks.

Oh wow. Is it mod-able at all? Some of my discs are rather questionable at this point, and back-ups would be SNAZZY.

From what I've glanced at on the GOG Baldur's Gate forum, it looks like you can mod both Baldur's Gate games.  I also have Torment and all the BG and IWD stuff on disc, but I'm tempted to pick these up on GOG so I don't have to go through the trouble of digging these games out whenever I feel like playing them.  I'll probably wait a while and see if they have any sort of holiday deals this year though.


WUA should've talked w/ them to bundle The Baldening.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on November 17, 2010, 03:48:41 PM
Speaking of Bioware, it looks like they'll be announcing their next project (presumably not Mass Effect, Dragon Age, or SWTOR related) at the Spike VGA's. (http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/66503)

Edit: Well, technically I guess it could be Mass Effect related, as people have pointed out that the rifle the guy is using in that video is fairly close to the Incisor from ME.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on November 18, 2010, 04:12:45 AM
I'm actually somewhat surprised GOG managed to snag NWN Diamond due to what I assume is fairly bad blood between Atari and Bioware. If only they could get permission to sell all the premium modules in a single pack as well, since Bioware is no longer allowed to sell or distribute them.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Abysmal Horror on November 18, 2010, 03:10:26 PM
I came across this via Sirlin.net, and it struck me as f13-ey, so here you go:

Shoryuken.com: Keiji Inafune Talks to 4Gamer About Leaving Capcom and his Feelings on the Japanese Games Industry

http://shoryuken.com/content/keiji-inafune-talks-4gamer-about-leaving-capcom-his-feelings-japanese-games-industry-2293/

It is long.  It is also, for some reason, entirely in italics.  :ye_gods:  Despite this, it's a good read.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on November 19, 2010, 12:33:25 PM
Why can I not obtain Diablo via Battle.net?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on November 19, 2010, 01:23:07 PM
Why can I not obtain Diablo via Battle.net?

I dunno, I was wondering this myself a year back or so when I tried to input my old CD keys.  I still actually have my diablo 1 disk and key, but battle.net won't recognize it or attach a copy ot my account.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on November 19, 2010, 05:00:50 PM
I came across this via Sirlin.net, and it struck me as f13-ey, so here you go:

Shoryuken.com: Keiji Inafune Talks to 4Gamer About Leaving Capcom and his Feelings on the Japanese Games Industry

http://shoryuken.com/content/keiji-inafune-talks-4gamer-about-leaving-capcom-his-feelings-japanese-games-industry-2293/

It is long.  It is also, for some reason, entirely in italics.  :ye_gods:  Despite this, it's a good read.
I find the dichotomy of the Shoryuken.net and NeoGAF comments almost as amusing as the (very long) interview itself. Over at GAF it's all "Inafune's awesome and Capcom doesn't know shit for shit." While at Shoryuken it's all "What a joke. Inafune is a shifty, skeezy motherfucker and a huge hypocritical failure of a developer."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on November 20, 2010, 08:14:33 AM
For a subset of this subset, there is a holiday sale at the NISA Store (http://store.nisamerica.com/):
Nov 22, Nippon Ichi titles
Nov 23, GUST Inc. titles
Nov 24-29, Mystery items
Nov 29, Art books and such


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Thrawn on November 23, 2010, 09:15:01 PM
Total Annihilation - 50% off, can grab it for $5.

Never played it, has near perfect ratings..but is uh, 13 years old.  Still worth trying or will it suffer from age too much?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on November 24, 2010, 12:00:09 PM
What distribution system?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ard on November 24, 2010, 12:01:49 PM
It wasn't a game I ever really played for the single player.  Without other people to play it with, it's at best a kick of nostalgia.  It's still honestly the best at what it does, throwing a billion different types of units at you in large numbers, but it's definitely feeling it's age.  If you liked Supreme Commander (1, not 2) and want to see where it came from, this is it though.

edit:  GoG has it for $6 normally.  Impulse has it for $5 on sale right now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on December 09, 2010, 04:47:09 AM
From what I can figure, this is the very rough outline of what the 2011 game lineup is looking like at the moment:

Dead Space 2 - Jan
Little Big Planet 2 - Jan
Killzone 3 - Feb
Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 - Feb
Bulletstorm - Feb
Deus Ex: Human Revolution - Feb/March
Dragon Age 2 - March
Crysis 2 - March
Child of Eden - March
Homefront - March
F.E.A.R. 3 - March
Shogun II: Total War - March
Portal 2 - April
The Witcher 2 - May
Hunted: The Demon's Forge - May

DC Universe Online - Q1
Darkspore - Q1
Shadows of the Damned - Spring
Ico/Shadow of the Colossus Collection - Spring
Star Wars: The Old Republic - Spring
Gears of War 3 - Fall
Batman: Arkham City - Fall
Rage - Fall


TBA 2011:

DotA2
Rift: Planes of Telara
SOCOM 4
Warhammer 40K: Space Marine
Ratchet & Clank: All 4 One
MotorStorm Apocalypse
X-Men: Destiny
Infamous 2
Twisted Metal
Guild Wars 2
Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword
Max Payne 3
Sorcery
Torchlight 2
Resistance 3
Trine 2
Mortal Kombat
Some Call of Duty game
Duke Nukem Forever (even with Gearbox working on it I hesitate to list it)

Possible 2011:

XCOM
The Agency
Neverwinter
The Last Guardian
Ni No Kuni
El Shaddai: Ascension of the Metatron
L.A. Noire
The Secret World
Diablo 3
Starcraft II: Heart of the Swarm


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Segoris on December 09, 2010, 12:15:06 PM
GamersGate (http://www.gamersgate.com/offers) has a lot of things on sale right now. I guess it's week 2 of their holiday sale. Some worth mentioning would be Majesty Gold for $3, Reccetgear for $10, Velvet Assassin for $3.xx, Deadspace for $6.xx, Bioshock for $5.

Overall, it doesn't compare to Steam's normal holiday sale, but there are some games on there some may be interested in.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on December 09, 2010, 12:36:31 PM
Is Marvel v. Capcom 3 going to be out for PC?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on December 09, 2010, 03:33:13 PM
Isn't Catherine supposed to be out sometime in spring of 2011? I am so goddamn stoked about that game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on December 09, 2010, 03:39:21 PM
Isn't Catherine supposed to be out sometime in spring of 2011? I am so goddamn stroked about that game.

FIFY


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on December 09, 2010, 03:40:06 PM
That's after the shrink wrap is off.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on December 09, 2010, 03:55:34 PM
Uncharted 3 announced (http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/12/09/uncharted-3-first-look/).

I guess they're supposed to be showing off a trailer at the VGA's.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on December 10, 2010, 05:55:12 AM
NPD's for November (http://gamasutra.com/view/news/31956/NPD_Results_November_2010_Industry_Up_8_Percent_Black_Ops_Leads_Software.php).

Black Ops sold 8.4 million copies.  In November.  Just in the U.S..


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on December 10, 2010, 10:03:55 AM
dat ad campaign


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 10, 2010, 10:49:35 AM
My dad's into black ops. Something very wrong when he got into gaming when he retired and now sits around playing games all day while I work. Very, very wrong.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Stormwaltz on December 10, 2010, 10:52:45 AM
...he retired and now sits around playing games all day while I work.

I hope I can retire so well.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ard on December 10, 2010, 11:55:14 AM
My dad's into black ops. Something very wrong when he got into gaming when he retired and now sits around playing games all day while I work. Very, very wrong.

My mom's the same way with adventure games on the DS and steam.  It's equal parts unholy and unfair.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 10, 2010, 11:58:17 AM
I'm trying to improve his taste in games, but he's all about the console FPS. Got hooked with Halo.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: NiX on December 10, 2010, 12:13:39 PM
I'm trying to improve his taste in games, but he's all about the console FPS. Got hooked with Halo.

You enjoy something that would improve his taste? :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on December 10, 2010, 10:15:32 PM
Hey, Dad, you like Halo right?  Try Gothic!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 11, 2010, 10:16:16 AM
I was thinking RDR and Madden 11 off the top of my head, or something with decent co-op so I could talk him into getting me a 360 so we could hang out once in a while.  :drill:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Engels on December 11, 2010, 11:49:26 AM
L4D2 prolly. That would get his FPS on while letting you shoot things with him.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on December 11, 2010, 12:00:25 PM
My dad is the same way now that he's retired.  He's really into WoW and has been asking for a 360 to play Halo.  He's actually better at PvP in WoW than I am. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on December 12, 2010, 01:26:52 AM
My dad is still pretty sure games are garbage.  This is fine because I still think he's a selfish ass.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Musashi on December 12, 2010, 03:08:03 PM
My dad is still pretty sure games are garbage.  This is fine because I still think he's a selfish ass.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on December 13, 2010, 11:22:00 AM
My dad doesn't enjoy any form of entertainment of any kind.

So I'll probably get him a WoW sub for xmas.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 13, 2010, 11:57:30 AM
L4D2 prolly. That would get his FPS on while letting you shoot things with him.
There is cross-platform co-op?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Xuri on December 13, 2010, 12:05:22 PM
My dad played some kind of golf game on the Commodore 64. Once.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 13, 2010, 01:22:43 PM
Leaderboard golf was the first co-op (well, hot-seat) drinking video game I remember.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Xuri on December 13, 2010, 01:35:17 PM
Hah! The very same. Thanks =P


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on December 13, 2010, 03:44:52 PM
I feel a new kinship with the group.

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/85916/bombed_nintendo.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on December 25, 2010, 11:55:29 PM
Amazon currently has Enslaved (360 and PS3) for $20 (http://www.amazon.com/Enslaved-Odyssey-West-Xbox-360/dp/B00319DX4W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1293342952&sr=8-1).

Picked one up as I had $20 in game credit from a previous order and had heard a lot of good things about it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on January 05, 2011, 07:54:42 PM
I'm surprised nobody's mentioned either the giant PS3 hacking fiasco (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-ps3-security-in-tatters) that just went down, or anything about the upcoming Sandy Bridge release (http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested).  I'd have imagined that either or both would have registered something here by now.

Short form:  
-  A group at 27c3 announced that they'd found a giant security flaw in the (up until now) secure PS3, and Geohot (of iPhone jailbreaking fame) then released the master keys publicly using an exploit based on their work.  

-  Sandy Bridge is pretty fricking awesome for an upper-mainstream processor, with Anand getting the 2600K to 4.4GHz stable on the stock Intel cooling solution and some pretty impressive performance even at stock clocks.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 05, 2011, 10:19:12 PM
The PS3 hack doesn't matter til you can run PS2 games, which may happen but is unlikely. Blu-Rays cost way too much, and downloading the ISOs is just dumb. So, uh, no one mentioned it because it's non-news to anyone that isn't a hacker.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on January 05, 2011, 11:44:46 PM
The PS3 hack doesn't matter til you can run PS2 games, which may happen but is unlikely. Blu-Rays cost way too much, and downloading the ISOs is just dumb. So, uh, no one mentioned it because it's non-news to anyone that isn't a hacker.

I don't know - I found the entire thing somewhat fascinating, particularly the revelation that Sony seeded the keys with a static value, making it (relatively) easy for the fail0verflow group & Geohot to derive them mathematically.  The implications of pretty much anyone being able to sign and run code in the not-too-distant future are also of interest to me, as I'd love to see an XBMC-type conversion in a fairly inexpensive device with a easily replaceable hard drive, network connectivity, HDMI and a BD drive.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samprimary on January 06, 2011, 02:51:39 AM
I feel a new kinship with the group.

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/85916/bombed_nintendo.jpg)

lol.

'toshiba? lost some good men there'


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Quinton on January 06, 2011, 03:35:32 AM
The PS3 hack doesn't matter til you can run PS2 games, which may happen but is unlikely. Blu-Rays cost way too much, and downloading the ISOs is just dumb. So, uh, no one mentioned it because it's non-news to anyone that isn't a hacker.

I don't know - I found the entire thing somewhat fascinating, particularly the revelation that Sony seeded the keys with a static value, making it (relatively) easy for the fail0verflow group & Geohot to derive them mathematically.  The implications of pretty much anyone being able to sign and run code in the not-too-distant future are also of interest to me, as I'd love to see an XBMC-type conversion in a fairly inexpensive device with a easily replaceable hard drive, network connectivity, HDMI and a BD drive.

It's a fantastic example of the fact that getting crypto right is *hard* and small mistakes can bring down the entire house of cards.

schild: I don't think you're likely to see ps2 emulation on later generation ps3s -- Sony very clearly thought they could do it in software, fell back to an (expensive) hardware solution when they couldn't, and then later decided to just drop the feature entirely.  The ps2 is a serious pain in the butt to emulate well.  I wouldn't say it's absolutely impossible to do on ps3, but I am doubtful that a performant general purpose solution is doable without an absurd amount of effort, if it all.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kageru on January 09, 2011, 08:12:14 PM
The PS3 hack doesn't matter til you can run PS2 games, which may happen but is unlikely. Blu-Rays cost way too much, and downloading the ISOs is just dumb. So, uh, no one mentioned it because it's non-news to anyone that isn't a hacker.

Heh, optimistic. Still, Sony will probably sell more hardware.

Main outcome is probably moving forward the release date for the next generation hardware.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on January 09, 2011, 11:28:13 PM
I wonder how much harddrive capacity the PS3's firmware can address. Even if someone popped out a custom firmware that let you just plop ISOs/Pirated PSN games onto the harddrive and run them with no modification, games are getting pretty goddamn big.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kageru on January 10, 2011, 02:04:32 AM

Are they that much bigger than PC games? Because those are certainly getting pretty huge themselves and still readily available on torrents.

blue-ray burners are pretty affordable now though, and some of the commercial pirates are still keen on shipping dodgy disks around (admittedly mostly DVD). I suspect the main restraint on PS3 piracy will be that anyone who cares has a modded Xbox360 already.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: naum on January 10, 2011, 03:21:42 PM
Nintendo 3DS warning: Just being honest, Nintendo exec says (http://www.csmonitor.com/Innovation/Horizons/2011/0110/Nintendo-3DS-warning-Just-being-honest-Nintendo-exec-says)

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Late last month, Nintendo posted a notice to its Website, warning that the forthcoming 3DS handset could cause children "under the age of six" to experience "a potential impact on the growth" on their eyes. Clearly this was not the most effective way to tout the 3D-capable successor to the Nintendo DS, which has traditionally been very popular among younger users.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Murgos on January 11, 2011, 01:16:14 PM
I'm going to be much happier in five or ten years when every new game released can stop being compared to WoW.

"Diablo III?  It's kinda like Diablo II + WoW!"

"Rifts?  It's kinda like a WoW but Less/More/Better/Worse!"

ARRRRGGGGHH!!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on January 11, 2011, 03:22:54 PM
I'm going to be much happier in five or ten years when every new game released can stop being compared to WoW.

"Diablo III?  It's kinda like Diablo II + WoW!"

"Rifts?  It's kinda like a WoW but Less/More/Better/Worse!"

ARRRRGGGGHH!!
Hahaha, only five or ten years?  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on January 11, 2011, 04:54:32 PM
Blizzard's new game might be out in five...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on January 11, 2011, 08:26:56 PM
http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/709706/Battlefield-3-To-Be-Officially-Announced-At-GDC-2011.html

Battlefield 3, weeeee.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Murgos on January 12, 2011, 09:27:32 AM
http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/709706/Battlefield-3-To-Be-Officially-Announced-At-GDC-2011.html

Battlefield 3, weeeee.

I hear it's going to be kind of like WoW.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Tarami on January 12, 2011, 10:32:59 AM
I hear it's going to be kind of like WoW.
Can't imagine how it could be much different considering it's going to have both tanks and healers.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on January 12, 2011, 07:27:57 PM
Please, for the love of god, no.

http://www.rpgwatch.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12313



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on January 13, 2011, 08:59:28 AM
Can I pray Dr. Ray fires his ass for not coming up with something new?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Murgos on January 13, 2011, 09:01:42 AM
I don't get the angst.  What's wrong with getting the old Ultima's in a browser?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on January 13, 2011, 09:42:20 AM
(http://medias.jeuxonline.info/upload/war/Site/Romeo/legende/barnett_comic_con08.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on January 13, 2011, 09:47:18 AM
As bad as the PB stuff got in the WAR days, he's surprisingly interesting now. Maybe there's hope yet.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on January 13, 2011, 02:09:21 PM
That's cute.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 13, 2011, 09:12:18 PM
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/85916/barak_oh-yeah.png)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: fuser on January 14, 2011, 10:15:30 AM
Sony's suing everyone related to the PS3 hacking. The restraining order against geohot is fun to read, as a ton of the evidence is forum and blog postings.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on January 16, 2011, 11:28:47 AM
Wasn't really sure where to post this, so I guess this thread will do:

(http://nerfnow.com/comic/image/450)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on January 16, 2011, 11:57:40 AM
hehe, funny and (unfortunately) true.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 17, 2011, 02:09:44 AM
More like fortunately true, every genre has to evolve.

Took the industry nearly 20 years to top A Link to the Past in Demon's Souls and it was worth the wait. I can wait for the next MMOG that breaks free the chains of Ceauşescu.

/congo joke


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: fuser on January 18, 2011, 01:20:08 PM
Holy crap Steam coming to the PS3. If you buy the PS3 version of portal they are including the PC/Mac version as an activation. Also the save games on your PS3 will be stored in the steam cloud so you can play a save from PS3 on PC or vice versa.

Chat and multiplayer will also be cross platform  :awesome_for_real:



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 18, 2011, 04:07:04 PM
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/85916/gnome_stare.gif)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on January 19, 2011, 05:56:42 AM
A few useless snippets of news here:

Remember when the Final Fantasy brand used to mean something?  SE recently held a conference to show off a number of Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts related projects.  I'd link the trailers but SE decided to have them all removed from YouTube, because we didn't stay up all night to watch the live stream of the event and thus don't deserve to see them.  Anyhow, they showed the renamed Final Fantasy Type-0 (the PSP game formerly known as Final Fantasy XIII Agito, which was also formerly supposed to be a cell phone game when it was announced back in '06).  The Kingdom Hearts 3DS entry also received a new name, Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance (you know because it fits in with the whole 3D thing, along with the recent trend of KH games having bizarre names).  Final Fantasy Versus XIII got a new trailer that actually showed off some gameplay, which was apparently very Kingdom Hearts-ish, but still no release date in site.  

So with Vs. trying to edge out GT5 for PS3 Exclusive That Spent the Most Time in Development Hell, and Type-0 being, well... a PSP game,  SE apparently decided they needed another FF game.  To this end, they combined FFX-2 and FFXIII, and announced FFXIII-2 for the PS3 and 360, and then pretty much said fuck-all about it other than that Lightning is in it, and it's coming next Winter.  I don't think there's a lack of talent over at Square Enix, but there definitely seems to be a lack of focus.  The Final Fantasy brand isn't going to be revitalized by making a ton of spin-offs, sequels, or side projects (and no, it wouldn't be revitalized by remaking FFVII either, people just need to get over it).  That said, if they just cut out all the bad plot and character stuff from XIII and just reuse a lot of the gameplay and art assets, which were quite good, there's actually a chance that FFXIII-2 might not be too bad.

On a completely unrelated and more positive announcment Taskmaster is revealed for Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHDMqzyIUAE).  Yeah, they also showed off Akuma, but I don't really give a shit about that since I can play as him in any number of Street Fighter games.  Like with M.O.D.O.K, fan reaction seems to be divided between "Fuck Yeah!' and "Who the fuck is that?".  I'd kill for pretty much any of the original Thunderbolts lineup, but so far I'm fairly satisfied with the announced roster of characters.  Hsien-Ko and Sentinel are expected to be the last characters to be announced due to a leaked list of characters.


Edit:  So as not to be completely negative about the Square Enix stuff, since I actually think there's potential for a good game to be made out of a lot of the work done on FFXIII.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 19, 2011, 01:29:11 PM
I hope Lightning decides to leave law enforcement and enter the world of Rock-N-Roll.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on January 19, 2011, 02:58:29 PM
Nintendo's 3DS launches in the U.S. on March 27th, for $249.99.  European launch is two days earlier for £229.99.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: WindupAtheist on January 19, 2011, 09:09:46 PM
Please, for the love of god, no.

http://www.rpgwatch.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12313

(http://www.celebrityclubber.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Sort_of_want.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: naum on January 20, 2011, 09:03:32 AM
Nintendo's 3DS launches in the U.S. on March 27th, for $249.99.  European launch is two days earlier for £229.99.

Nintendo 3DS Preview (http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/19/nintendo-3ds-in-depth-preview-slight-return-video/)

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Face Raiders. Another built-in diversion. Take a picture of yourself or your (un)loved ones and shoot them up as you twist 360 degrees in an AR-esque shooter. It won't shake the "tech demo" vibe either, but given its free in-bundle status, we can't complain. Also helps that we spent the entire time blasting away Nilay's face, only have "boss Nilay" grow an afro upon defeat.

Steeldiver. Actually one of the more interesting launch titles, since it makes use of the 3DS's gyroscope. You turn your body to locate ships through a periscope, and then you fire upon them. One of the better-looking 3D games, for sure, although the effect isn't used for anything -- it's just there.

Resident Evil: The Mercenaries 3D and Street Fighter IV 3D Edition. Both games boast impressive graphics, and even 3D mode was well done -- we don't think it really added anything, but it certainly didn't distract. The games themselves were smart, fleshed-out recreations of their respective console equivalents, and the touch screen options were large enough that we could use our fingernails just fine for quickly changing weapons / activating super combos.

Madden NFL. We can't explain why, but the 3D effect here was just jarring. We couldn't seem to focus no matter how we twisted and adjusted the system, our eyes ever-suffering.

3DS hands-on

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xkYifIewOM&feature=player_embedded


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on January 20, 2011, 10:52:03 AM
Holy crap Steam coming to the PS3. If you buy the PS3 version of portal they are including the PC/Mac version as an activation. Also the save games on your PS3 will be stored in the steam cloud so you can play a save from PS3 on PC or vice versa.

Chat and multiplayer will also be cross platform  :awesome_for_real:



How is that useless? That's incredible.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ghost on January 20, 2011, 05:49:09 PM
Just saw on steam that Deadspace 2 is 60 bucks.  Holy shit!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 21, 2011, 09:05:23 AM
I'm betting it has sequelitis and so I'll wait for a price drop.  I refuse to believe it can be better than the first one, even after playing the demo.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on January 21, 2011, 09:27:35 AM
Just saw on steam that Deadspace 2 is 60 bucks.  Holy shit!
I was noticing this trend. Black Ops and DA2 are also $60, just going off their rotating banner.

Crazy.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on January 21, 2011, 02:10:14 PM
Just saw on steam that Deadspace 2 is 60 bucks.  Holy shit!
Thank Activision pretty much for that shit.

Oh, and in other news:

Random website on the internet says that Sony is thinking about adding PC-style serials to PS3 games in lieu of their security being busted wide open. (http://www.thinq.co.uk/2011/1/21/sony-rumoured-be-adding-serial-keys-ps3/)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: bhodi on January 21, 2011, 02:57:00 PM
Oh, and in other news:

Random website on the internet says that Sony is thinking about adding PC-style serials to PS3 games in lieu of their security being busted wide open. (http://www.thinq.co.uk/2011/1/21/sony-rumoured-be-adding-serial-keys-ps3/)
Which of course would have the "side benefit" of closing the used market hole which loses them about a billion times more money than any pirated games market.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on January 22, 2011, 05:02:24 AM
Just saw on steam that Deadspace 2 is 60 bucks.  Holy shit!

I just got a notice that Dead Space 2 had just shipped and was set to arrive on Monday.  I was a bit surprised as I didn't recall ever ordering the game.  Took me awhile to figure out that I had pre-ordered it last March when there was a $20 off code for the EA Store during PAX, and I had ordered it then.  Also the PC version was only priced at $50 at the time, so I only had to pay $30 total for it (plus tax, shipping was free and it should get here before the actual release day although I probably won't have time to play it for awhile).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on January 22, 2011, 05:16:58 AM
Which of course would have the "side benefit" of closing the used market hole which loses them about a billion times more money than any pirated games market.

Console gaming is losing its point so very fast. Except for a super cheap Saboteur, I haven't bought a single one of these new code-crippled console games. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 26, 2011, 09:56:19 AM
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/85916/Eddy.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on January 26, 2011, 05:48:18 PM
The PSP2 is expected to be unveiled at a press conference Sony is having tonight (10pm PT).  1Up, IGN, Kotaku, and Eurogamer are all going to be live streaming the event.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on January 26, 2011, 07:44:55 PM
Well at least someone cares then.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bandit on January 27, 2011, 08:31:26 AM
I see Direct2Drive is offering PC game "rentals" now.  $5 for 5 hours...

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One of the many reasons I’m proud to work for D2D is the on-going commitment to better serve our customers and followers. Trust me if you could be a fly on the wall during our many brain-storming sessions you’ll walk away satisfied in knowing we take all your feedback to heart. So, I proudly announce our newest feature, Direct2Drive’s rentals. Starting today you can rent select titles for $5.00 that gets you 5 hours of play time. If you decide you want to keep the game, the $5.00 initial investment will be applied to the final purchase of the game. It’s that simple!

To start things off we have a few games for you to choose from Silent Hill: Homecoming, Grid, and Divinity 2.

I have no problems with digital purchases even virtual goods, but for some reason I can't get my head around rentals.  Maybe it's the fact that you can pick up full games for $5 on steam. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on January 27, 2011, 08:37:07 AM
I see Direct2Drive is offering PC game "rentals" now.  $5 for 5 hours...

Quote
One of the many reasons I’m proud to work for D2D is the on-going commitment to better serve our customers and followers. Trust me if you could be a fly on the wall during our many brain-storming sessions you’ll walk away satisfied in knowing we take all your feedback to heart. So, I proudly announce our newest feature, Direct2Drive’s rentals. Starting today you can rent select titles for $5.00 that gets you 5 hours of play time. If you decide you want to keep the game, the $5.00 initial investment will be applied to the final purchase of the game. It’s that simple!

To start things off we have a few games for you to choose from Silent Hill: Homecoming, Grid, and Divinity 2.

I have no problems with digital purchases even virtual goods, but for some reason I can't get my head around rentals.  Maybe it's the fact that you can pick up full games for $5 on steam. 

I've always been of the opinion that if I game isn't worth owning, it isn't worth playing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on January 27, 2011, 07:20:31 PM
There are some games that are too short to pay full price for but are excellent games to actually play for their short duration. Those are the ones you rent, on consoles anyway.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on January 28, 2011, 11:51:39 AM
Or just buy it on steam sale. The interim time can also kill any buzz interest and save you the time playing it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on January 28, 2011, 12:52:34 PM
Or just buy it on steam sale. The interim time can also kill any buzz interest and save you the time playing it.

Yeah, thats a big part of it.  Most of my desire to really buy a game comes from the hype train, I have to admit, whether it be here or elsewhere.  I do buy stuff on steam sale for cheap, but tons of stuff I  "almost" bought when it was new ends up getting passed on even when its like 5-7 bucks because I just don't care.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 28, 2011, 12:54:32 PM
Paid demos.

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/85916/burns_excellent.png)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sjofn on January 29, 2011, 03:55:49 PM
That random Sims Medieval (http://www.ea.com/the-sims-medieval?sourceid=brand_wk_sims-medieval_broad_62_sims-medieval_home_google) game is coming out in March apparently.

Sims 3 is also on Steam now, which irks me. I would love to have it on Steam, but even though it's super on sale ($90 for everything, so the base game + three expansions + their two stupid stuff packs, which is actually pretty good all things considered), I don't want it on Steam so bad I'd pay that much. :(


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on January 30, 2011, 04:30:22 PM
Oh, and in other news:

Random website on the internet says that Sony is thinking about adding PC-style serials to PS3 games in lieu of their security being busted wide open. (http://www.thinq.co.uk/2011/1/21/sony-rumoured-be-adding-serial-keys-ps3/)
Which of course would have the "side benefit" of closing the used market hole which loses them about a billion times more money than any pirated games market.

That'd completely kill me buying PS3 games as an additional "Side Benefit". Not that I bother to rent these days, but I give away older games that I no longer have any interest in - and was considering buying a second PS3 as a blu-ray player for the bedroom/to allow system link play for myself and my wife.

On a PS3-related note, I saw that Dead Space 2 for PC comes with a HD & Move-enabled version of Dead Space: Extraction, which seemed to get good reviews for Wii awhile back. Anyone have any first hand experience?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on February 01, 2011, 03:47:39 PM
Kinda went under my radar that Dungeon Siege 3 is due out this year and is being developed by Obsidian (published by SquareEnix who bought the rights to the series).  This was apparently announced some time ago, but I hadn't heard anything about it until this week when a bunch of sites started putting up some hands-on previews.  Obsidian is developing this game using their own engine, called Onyx.  From the sounds of it there will be some people here who will be upset by the consolization of the game, as the demos were given on the PC but played with a gamepad, and the game is also being released on the PS3 and 360.  Overall though the game sounds pretty promising, although pretty much every preview I've read has been sure to note Obsidian's history of making good, but really flawed games.

PC Gamer's preview (http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/01/31/dungeon-siege-3-preview-2/).
Eurogamer's preview (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-01-28-dungeon-siege-iii-hands-on).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on February 01, 2011, 03:52:06 PM
Obsidian does great stuff with story and characters and such, using other people's engines and tech. The idea of them creating their own engine is... yeah.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 02, 2011, 03:16:30 PM
Obsidian.  Wait and see.  Fan patch, maybe.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on February 02, 2011, 03:34:45 PM
Alpha Protocol was a technical disaster and that was barely off their usual rails.  This should be very interesting.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ghost on February 02, 2011, 03:41:01 PM
That random Sims Medieval (http://www.ea.com/the-sims-medieval?sourceid=brand_wk_sims-medieval_broad_62_sims-medieval_home_google) game is coming out in March apparently.

Sims 3 is also on Steam now, which irks me. I would love to have it on Steam, but even though it's super on sale ($90 for everything, so the base game + three expansions + their two stupid stuff packs, which is actually pretty good all things considered), I don't want it on Steam so bad I'd pay that much. :(

I had that exact same thought when I looked at the Steam pack last night.  Maybe it will go on sale, err maybe more on sale. 

The Sims Medieval I'm oddly a little excited about.  I'm sure it will be absolute shite though. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on February 03, 2011, 06:41:33 PM
Hell fucking yeah.  Saint's Row 3 is coming out this fall (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-02-02-saints-row-3-due-this-autumn).  SR2 is quite possibly my favorite game of the last few years, so it'll be nice to get another installment.  Here's hoping they don't fuck with the formula too much.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trouble on February 05, 2011, 12:03:21 AM
SR2 is amazing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 07, 2011, 10:59:34 AM
You mean on consoles, right?

Though I guess I should give it another whirl with the gtx460. But really, an 8800gtx should've been enough to knock a console game out of the park, gta4 ran good on it. Shitty sr2 port. Bah.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on February 07, 2011, 11:15:18 AM
SR2 PC has some issues for sure. My HD4890 had trouble running it on max.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 07, 2011, 11:42:00 AM
I'm not worried about running at max. I ran gta4 on the 8800gtx at 360 settings plus a few things (view distance mostly) bumped up. Even though I'm a graphics whore, if a game is fun I don't need it to be maxed out, I can play RIFT maxed out on my 460 but it's not fluid enough. For a game with shooting and driving, needs to run better. I spent maybe five minutes in SR2 with the camera wildly swinging around and the framerate doing a jig before I went back to whatever else I was doing.

And I had an awesome Cliff Burton avatar, too, dernit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 08, 2011, 11:13:41 AM
SR2 with GTAIV car physics would have been my GotY.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trouble on February 09, 2011, 04:16:36 PM
There are some pretty good third party fixes for SR2 to run with recent performance on the PC. I was able to get it running without a hitch.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Minvaren on February 09, 2011, 04:50:36 PM
Activision may have just pulled the plug on Guitar Hero...?

Link : here (http://investor.activision.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=548900)

Quote
At the same time, due to continued declines in the music genre, the company will disband Activision Publishing's Guitar Hero business unit and discontinue development on its Guitar Hero game for 2011.  The company also will stop development on True Crime: Hong Kong™.  These decisions are based on the desire to focus on the greatest opportunities that the company currently has to create the world's best interactive entertainment experiences.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on February 09, 2011, 04:59:00 PM
Hopefully this eventually frees up the bands who were GH-exclusive.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Minvaren on February 09, 2011, 05:09:54 PM
That was actually my second thought as well...   :awesome_for_real:

The first being, "who's going to make a decent guitar now?"


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on February 10, 2011, 12:02:39 AM
wrong thread. ;p


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 10, 2011, 10:41:00 AM
There are some pretty good third party fixes for SR2 to run with recent performance on the PC. I was able to get it running without a hitch.
Links?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ghost on February 10, 2011, 04:01:16 PM

I've always been of the opinion that if I game isn't worth owning, it isn't worth playing.
I have plenty of games that aren't worth owning or playing, yet I own them anyway.   :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on February 10, 2011, 05:56:48 PM
I didn't know where else to put this, so I guess here will do

(http://i.imgur.com/Pztm8.jpg)

 :awesome_for_real:



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on February 10, 2011, 08:17:35 PM
I'll be in my bunk.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 11, 2011, 12:45:45 AM
I'll be in my bunk.
(http://forums.f13.net/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=5538;type=avatar)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on February 11, 2011, 01:19:59 AM
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/40386/Avatars/fapping-daffy.gif)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on February 11, 2011, 06:46:51 AM
 :thumbs_up: :thumbs_up: :thumbs_up: :thumbs_up:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 11, 2011, 09:49:36 AM
They've finally gotten Ivy to Belle Chere proportions  :drillf:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mosesandstick on February 11, 2011, 09:52:17 AM
That's the cosplayer  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on February 11, 2011, 10:25:10 AM
This thread is channeling Neogaf.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 11, 2011, 10:36:00 AM
This thread is channeling Neogaf.
I don't see how that comment adds to the gameplay.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on February 11, 2011, 11:03:26 AM
This thread is channeling Neogaf.
I don't see how that comment adds to the gameplay.
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/40386/Avatars/fapping-daffy.gif)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: JWIV on February 11, 2011, 03:44:32 PM
Oh Sony, you're so funny.  Somehow, I don't think I'm going to go download all this crap to admire the decade old graphics and nutpunching gameplay.


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Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on February 11, 2011, 03:53:07 PM
Yeah, the wife and I had a laugh about that last night.  She quit as a level 32 mage in the middle of LoIO.  I distinctly remember giving away all my gear, plat and bags so I couldn't come back when I left @ GoD.  Pretty sure even if I wanted a nostalgia trip, neither character is a good idea.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on February 11, 2011, 04:27:31 PM
Hell, I actually did it.  I think it spent more time downloading than it did for me to realize DO NOT WANT. 

What I really want (after someone peels me some grapes) is the EQ/Kunark/Velious world updated for todays graphics/controls.  I'm okay with xp loss and nutty corpse runs.  At this point, though, the control scheme is simply too antiquated and they've bogged the system with about 900% more crap ideas than players need. 

I'm actually really glad they gave it to me for free instead of my paying $15 at some point down the road for nostalgia. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on February 12, 2011, 02:54:28 PM
Anyone else interested in Jane Jensen's Gray Matter? The local gaming mag (Pelit) had a review in this month's issue, and they loved it. It's supposed to be out Feb 25th.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trouble on February 12, 2011, 10:58:48 PM
There are some pretty good third party fixes for SR2 to run with recent performance on the PC. I was able to get it running without a hitch.
Links?

This covered every single issue I experienced, including bugged quests: Saints Row 2 PC FAQ - Steam (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1715922)

As a general rule SR2 runs better windowed. I run all my games windowed so I probably experienced less performance issues than most people do.


Edit: having an SSD goes a long way toward making it run well too due to SR2 not prefetching data from the disk.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on February 13, 2011, 05:38:42 AM
Anyone else interested in Jane Jensen's Gray Matter? The local gaming mag (Pelit) had a review in this month's issue, and they loved it. It's supposed to be out Feb 25th.



Hey :)

I created a thread a few weeks ago about the game ! (demo is quite good, IMO)

http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=20301.0


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on February 13, 2011, 08:13:21 AM
After some forum dredging, I found out that you can apparently buy the dd version of Gray Matter here (http://gamerunlimited.gamesplanet.com/kaufen-downloaden-pc-spiele/Gray-Matter-2194-14.html) right now, because the game released in Germany ages ago. AFAIK the PC version includes English as well as German dubs. Haven't tried it myself though so I don't know for sure if it works.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 14, 2011, 11:26:51 AM
There are some pretty good third party fixes for SR2 to run with recent performance on the PC. I was able to get it running without a hitch.
Links?

This covered every single issue I experienced, including bugged quests: Saints Row 2 PC FAQ - Steam (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1715922)

As a general rule SR2 runs better windowed. I run all my games windowed so I probably experienced less performance issues than most people do.


Edit: having an SSD goes a long way toward making it run well too due to SR2 not prefetching data from the disk.
Thanks! Looks like some work, but doable. Between this and Ironwood's advice on Dead Space I might have a couple "new" games to play.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 16, 2011, 07:43:34 AM
Cave Story 3D on 3DS.  I'd post a link if I had one that wasn't a PDF.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on February 16, 2011, 08:36:29 AM
This covered every single issue I experienced, including bugged quests: Saints Row 2 PC FAQ - Steam (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1715922)

Quote
The speedup bug is something that is an inherent problem with Windows 7, though in rare cases it has been reported to happen on Vista. The speedup happens with CPUs that do not run at exactly 3.2Ghz frequency (the Xbox 360 cpu speed.) The further your cpu is away from 3.2Ghz (both higher and lower) the faster it will run.

Seriously?  This is laughably terrible.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ard on February 16, 2011, 07:02:33 PM
The Drakensang followup (prequel, I guess) just kicked out it's US release on Steam, for those that like their eurojank rpgs (at least, I think I'm talking to more than Sky here).

http://store.steampowered.com/app/33770/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on February 16, 2011, 07:09:30 PM
I still have the first one on my HD waiting for me to play past the first 15 minutes. Obviously it needs company.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Strazos on February 16, 2011, 09:33:10 PM
I still have the first one on my HD waiting for me to play past the first 15 minutes. Obviously it needs company.

Same. I liked the idea of the game, though I thought the combat was pretty brutal early on. Perhaps I'll go through soon with a walkthrough - about how long is an average playthrough?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on February 17, 2011, 03:02:11 AM
The Drakensang followup (prequel, I guess) just kicked out it's US release on Steam, for those that like their eurojank rpgs (at least, I think I'm talking to more than Sky here).

http://store.steampowered.com/app/33770/

It's made by a German dev and has a German publisher, but is only available in the US.  :uhrr:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 17, 2011, 08:44:45 AM
The Drakensang followup (prequel, I guess) just kicked out it's US release on Steam, for those that like their eurojank rpgs (at least, I think I'm talking to more than Sky here).

http://store.steampowered.com/app/33770/
:drill:

Gotta wait until the budget allows, but I'm psyched. The original was fun. Might be my second favorite erpg of recent years, behind Risen (because evoking Turkish as the protagonist in a Gothic game is wicked).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ard on February 17, 2011, 11:45:06 AM
It's made by a German dev and has a German publisher, but is only available in the US.  :uhrr:

I can't remember the full details, but I could have sworn the German release came out around a year ago.  The localization was massively delayed, and I think the dev house (Radon Labs) was closed in the process, with the localization team promising the game would still ship.  There's supposed to be a third game in the series due out yet, by some other dev house, but it looks like the rights have been passed around a few times now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Viin on February 18, 2011, 04:40:31 PM
I picked up the Force Unleashed (1 and 2) for 360 the other day, sure is a lot more fun than I thought it would be! Kinda hard too, on the 2nd to hardest setting.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kageru on February 18, 2011, 08:18:54 PM
It's made by a German dev and has a German publisher, but is only available in the US.  :uhrr:

I can't remember the full details, but I could have sworn the German release came out around a year ago.  The localization was massively delayed, and I think the dev house (Radon Labs) was closed in the process, with the localization team promising the game would still ship.  There's supposed to be a third game in the series due out yet, by some other dev house, but it looks like the rights have been passed around a few times now.

I think what he's saying is it's fun that localization is finished for the English language version but it's absent from non-US steam. It certainly doesn't show up on Australian steam, not even the trailer.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 18, 2011, 08:38:26 PM
You guys need to learn English, then.





:oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on February 19, 2011, 04:20:55 AM
I was referring to the weird restrictions on availability. DS:RoT is apparently only available in Germany, France and US right now, and the Steam version is US only. The game will apparently be released in the UK as well at some point, and also in Russia and Benelux. No word on other major territories such as Andorra.

I am not sure why they can't do an EU release and be done with it.
 
:uhrr: :uhrr:




Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 19, 2011, 10:56:38 AM
Andorra is a major territory?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on February 19, 2011, 11:15:20 AM
Andorra is a major territory?

If Benelux warrants its own release, then I suppose so.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on February 20, 2011, 05:44:23 AM
Andorra is a wee bit smaller than Benelux though. But in general this misses your valid point, a single European or European-Russian release would seem to make sense.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kageru on February 20, 2011, 08:11:13 PM

Or just do a global English release and stop bringing regional boundaries into a global distribution system?

Unless it is to give discounts to places that can't afford full price games (like the US if Australian prices are to be believed  :grin:), which is not the case here.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Segoris on February 23, 2011, 08:53:27 AM
What the fuck (http://ingame.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/02/22/6106856-kiss-controller-turns-tongues-into-joysticks)

Kissing controller that works with a bowling game currently. I guess this may be one of the next controller evolutions, though I doubt even this could make Wii games fun. Now, onto developing local co-op orgy controller!

 :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on February 23, 2011, 08:59:33 AM
That's amazingly creepy while also being totally pointless.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on March 10, 2011, 10:18:58 AM
Gaming = cocaine (http://www.mcvuk.com/news/43423/Two-hours-gaming-a-line-of-cocaine)

Quote
Computer game addiction can also spiral into violence as after playing violent games, they may turn their fantasy games into reality

 :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on March 10, 2011, 10:21:32 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXasCjUTNpE


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on March 10, 2011, 11:02:16 AM
Oh my, hahahhahahahh  :drill: :drill: :drill:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on March 10, 2011, 11:05:29 AM
Blimey


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on March 11, 2011, 07:39:39 AM
While cleaning up some obscure and frightening corner of my house, I found three bags full of games (and related boxes!) for the Atari ST, dating back in the '85-'91 timeframe. I thought I threw them away, so you can imagine the reaction when I actually unconvered them  :heart: . They are all mixed up, some floppy disk is damaged and all, but whoa, what a blast from the past. Maybe I'll post some pics or even do one of those freaky nerdy retro videos and post it on youtube :D.

Among others: Drakken, The Golden Path, Black Lamp, STOS programming language, Breach, Colonial Conquest, Red Storm Rising, King Quest I-IV, Maniac Mansion, Zak  McKraken, Ultima III and IV, Populous, Powermonger, various collections, Daley Thompson Olympic Challenge, Roy of the Rovers, Kick Off 2, Heroes of the Lance, Dragons of the Flame, Chrono Quest I, Speedball I, Ballystyx and countless others.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on March 11, 2011, 02:18:41 PM
I loved Red Storm Rising so much as a kid. I always wished I could play as the Soviets though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Minvaren on March 14, 2011, 07:44:20 AM
Didn't see this previously posted, thought it was amusing : Valve Time (http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time).   :awesome_for_real:

(pines for HL2 EP3)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on March 15, 2011, 07:36:38 AM
I just read that the New Mortal Kombat got banned in Australia, even after Appeal. I'd have created a new thread for it, but meh, it's MK. Easy enough to import anyway. I'll get right onto it after it's price drops by half or more. In 6 months or a year. Or whatever.

 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 22, 2011, 09:44:14 PM
Does not really warrant its own thread, but I decided to give a try of the PSN online storage thingy.  I was rewarded with the discovery that I can copy both my Dragon Age and Demon's Souls saves to this.  Oh, of only this had been around before I had two PS3 die last summer.  Of course, it's only 150MB so I wouldn't have been able to dump everything onto it, but still.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on March 28, 2011, 04:40:52 PM
Shane Bettenhausen shows off El Shaddai over at Giantbomb (http://www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-ex-el-shaddai-ascension-of-the-metatron/17-3937/).  You can skip past the first three minutes of the video if you don't care about Shane handing out candy to the Giantbomb guys.  Really like the premise and look to this game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 29, 2011, 07:53:51 AM
Hot.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on April 08, 2011, 06:06:00 PM
New trailer for Twisted Metal (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-broken-twisted-metal/712641).  Coming Oct. 4th.  Looks pretty much like Twisted Metal.  Kinda sad that Outlaw doesn't appear to be in this one.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 11, 2011, 10:05:57 PM
I liked Twisted Metal a lot, but do I need to buy/play a fifth one?  After the first one and Black, I feel like I'm done.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on April 13, 2011, 02:45:47 AM
I liked Twisted Metal a lot, but do I need to buy/play a fifth one?  After the first one and Black, I feel like I'm done.

Black was 10 years ago.  If nothing else I'd expect the online mutliplayer to be a big improvement over Black Online.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 13, 2011, 10:37:58 AM
I don't play multiplayer, except in Demon's Souls, so that's a non-issue.

I'm not confident that the mere passage of time is enough to produce a must-have game.  Refer to TM III. :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on April 13, 2011, 12:16:58 PM
I learned today of An Apology for Roger Ebert by Brian Moriarty (http://www.ludix.com/moriarty/apology.html).

Good stuff.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nebu on April 13, 2011, 12:53:09 PM
I learned today of An Apology for Roger Ebert by Brian Moriarty (http://www.ludix.com/moriarty/apology.html).

Good stuff.

Really enjoyed the read.  Thanks for the link.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 13, 2011, 01:04:27 PM
Oh, Stardock. Thanks for reminding me why I don't own GalCiv2.

Just got an email that I can buy it ON SALE for 30% off the ULTIMATE EDITION!!!!

$28 for a 5 year old game who's last expansion was released 3 years ago. Srsly, FOAD.

Why, Kael, WHY?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on April 13, 2011, 01:09:46 PM
Oh, Stardock. Thanks for reminding me why I don't own GalCiv2.

Just got an email that I can buy it ON SALE for 30% off the ULTIMATE EDITION!!!!

$28 for a 5 year old game who's last expansion was released 3 years ago. Srsly, FOAD.

Why, Kael, WHY?

Stage 2: Anger


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on April 13, 2011, 01:10:58 PM
Oh, Stardock. Thanks for reminding me why I don't own GalCiv2.

Just got an email that I can buy it ON SALE for 30% off the ULTIMATE EDITION!!!!

$28 for a 5 year old game who's last expansion was released 3 years ago. Srsly, FOAD.

Why, Kael, WHY?

But now you can also get a one year warranty on your bits and preorder the latest games while you shop! Also, have you considered buying used instead?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 14, 2011, 08:56:35 AM
I learned today of An Apology for Roger Ebert by Brian Moriarty (http://www.ludix.com/moriarty/apology.html).

Good stuff.

Fantastic read.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on April 14, 2011, 10:16:16 AM
I file it under "really annoying read" personally. I've never understood why people are always trying to start this debate around games with no narrative. "Is M.U.L.E. art?" is a much harder question to answer than (for example) "Is Red Dead Redemption art?", especially when you're comparing it to a different art form that is almost entirely narrative.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on April 14, 2011, 03:10:56 PM
CD Projekt apparently is trying very hard to push GOG with the Witcher 2 (http://www.shacknews.com/article/68117/witcher-2-uses-securom-wont).  The Witcher 2 will have SecuROM, but not if purchased on GOG and will only have pre-loading on GOG.


Quote
CD Projekt revealed that The Witcher 2 will utilize SecuROM copy-protection for its retail release, deciding it was the least intrusive way to protect its content from piracy. Though they are aware some gamers will groan at the decision to use SecuROM, CD Projekt noted that the game will allow for "unlimited installations on an unlimited number of computers" and allow "play on up to five computers at once." The game requires an internet connection for the game's initial activation. According to the presentation, this will ensure that The Witcher 2 cannot be played before the game's May 17 release.

The Witcher 2 will also be available on digital distribution platforms, including DRM-free on Good Old Games (GOG.com).

Although the game will include a serial code for activation, users that purchase the game on GOG.com will not require the code to play the game. The GOG.com release will come completely unlocked; however, a code will be included for users that wish to download future DLC--which requires the serial key to access the content.  I don't even really give a shit about Securom that much, but they way they went about this just seems kinda stupid.  No solid word yet on whether or not the Steam version will have Securom.

Beginning May 10, users that have pre-purchased The Witcher 2 on GOG.com will have the ability to pre-load 90% of the final game. Good Old Games will be the only digital distribution platform that will feature a pre-load for the game.

Unlike the original game in the series, The Witcher 2 will not see any censorship between regions. Each region will feature the same story and gameplay. Additionally, the sequel features up to sixteen different endings. During the conference, CD Projekt issued a challenge to players of The Witcher 2: the first person to unlock all sixteen endings (and prove it with a save file), will be awarded a special t-shirt.


I get that they want to really promote their game on their DD system, but couldn't they just stick with the exclusive bonus stuff they were offering?  Preventing the other digital distribution shops from allowing pre-loading, and announcing that "oh yeah, if you guys want the Securom-free version of the game you have to buy it here", just seems like a dick move.  At the very least this is the kind of thing that they maybe should have announced way back when they let retailers start taking pre-orders.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on April 14, 2011, 04:09:26 PM
Yeah, the pre-order bonus of "does not have digital fucking herpes" is a pretty big selling point in my mind.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on April 14, 2011, 04:11:17 PM
Yah, still buying on Steam.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 14, 2011, 10:48:18 PM
Yeah, what complete douchebags allowing unlimited installs on unlimited machines and five simultaneous playable installs. I know I need to be playing it on at least a dozen computers at the same time.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on April 14, 2011, 10:49:49 PM
It'll pk ur flax.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on April 15, 2011, 05:47:22 AM
Yeah, what complete douchebags allowing unlimited installs on unlimited machines and five simultaneous playable installs. I know I need to be playing it on at least a dozen computers at the same time.

I wasn't suggesting they were douchebags because I think the DRM is too strict.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 15, 2011, 09:09:53 AM
I file it under "really annoying read" personally. I've never understood why people are always trying to start this debate around games with no narrative. "Is M.U.L.E. art?" is a much harder question to answer than (for example) "Is Red Dead Redemption art?", especially when you're comparing it to a different art form that is almost entirely narrative.

I am a philosopher at heart and am mainly fascinated by the exploration of what defines art.  So, yes, it's a dumb thing to argue and I agree with Ebert that hardly any movies are art.  Hardly anything is, in any medium.  I'm a fan of thought processes and this is an interesting one.

It'll pk ur flax.

Nice reference. :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 15, 2011, 10:29:51 AM
First!

I hope Brad reads this.

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/85916/fix_elemental.png)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on April 15, 2011, 10:40:10 AM

It'll pk ur flax.

Nice reference. :oh_i_see:

But it's not.  Oh!

<frye eye squint image goes here>


I'm not really afraid of SecuROM.  They're going to have to try harder.


New Nintendo console annoucement in June apparently.  Time to get dismissive/angry/disappointed in anticipation.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on April 15, 2011, 11:05:10 AM
First!

I hope Brad reads this.

You glorious bastard.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sir T on April 20, 2011, 02:44:33 PM
Stardock are also having a 30% off sale for Sins of a Solar Empire Trinity (Game and its two expansions) right now. That's certainly well worth the money.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 22, 2011, 01:41:51 PM
First!

I hope Brad reads this.

You glorious bastard.

It persists.

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/85916/galcivii_sale_fb.png)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on April 22, 2011, 01:43:46 PM
I'm not shocked to find he's too clueless to simply delete your post.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 22, 2011, 01:44:49 PM
Also, look into this exotic and rare distribution system created by bringing water to the boiling point and learn how to price an ancient niche game to sell, ffs.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 22, 2011, 09:11:35 PM
I actually thought Impulse was a fine product, at least once they ditched that token shit.  They should have sold Elemental to GameStop.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on April 27, 2011, 12:43:57 PM
Oh lol, that one guy is at it again on RPS.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 29, 2011, 09:00:13 PM
Torchlight has been a bit crashy lately, wondering if it's me or what.  So ready for the sequel.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on May 01, 2011, 02:10:02 AM
Portal 2 is Amazon's Deal of the Day.  $35 for PS3/360, $30 for PC. (http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/ref=amb_link_85826191_2/177-2195910-3229825?tag=cheapassgam08-20&ie=UTF8&docId=1000208101&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=right-blog-0&pf_rd_r=1Q6Y9F1SDH478CJ15JZ6&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1280001262&pf_rd_i=409566)

They've also got Mortal Kombat down to $39.99 now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 02, 2011, 02:40:34 PM
I fired up Dead Space today (PC) and remembered how much the mousing in menus sucks.  I mean, it's maddening and I can generally put up with some shit-ass-crap control schemes.  I'm thinking abut what my options are.  There is the obvious copout of purchasing it on a console, but that's sending the wrong message and would also make my ass pucker due to buying a game twice again.  Maybe there are some modifications I can do to the PC versions.  All I know is that I want to play it now and I don't have much time to waste on making it tolerable.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on May 02, 2011, 02:44:46 PM
Sounds what I had to put up with playing Alpha Protocol.  Extensive UI tweaking made it tollerable. Barely.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on May 02, 2011, 05:45:31 PM
I fired up Dead Space today (PC) and remembered how much the mousing in menus sucks.  I mean, it's maddening and I can generally put up with some shit-ass-crap control schemes.  I'm thinking abut what my options are.  There is the obvious copout of purchasing it on a console, but that's sending the wrong message and would also make my ass pucker due to buying a game twice again.  Maybe there are some modifications I can do to the PC versions.  All I know is that I want to play it now and I don't have much time to waste on making it tolerable.

Just started playing through it myself, and found the same thing at first.  But all the menus are navigable with the arrow keys as well (options, inventory, map, everything), as far as I've found, which solves the problem for me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on May 02, 2011, 06:09:50 PM
Anyone heard anything about Brink?  It looked pretty generic to me but then I heard the people who made Enemy Territory are making it and that piqued my interest.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Strazos on May 02, 2011, 07:41:25 PM
Bought DA:O Ultimate edition today for $20 since it came with that (still) pricey expansion and DLC. Unfortunately, the expansion is not some sort of separate install - I was hoping to have a DA:O copy to gift.  :oh_i_see:

Though, I'm hoping my saves will be transferable. I'm guessing I'll have to do that manually.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on May 03, 2011, 08:15:39 AM
There is the obvious copout of purchasing it on a console, but that's sending the wrong message and would also make my ass pucker due to buying a game twice again.  Maybe there are some modifications I can do to the PC versions.  All I know is that I want to play it now and I don't have much time to waste on making it tolerable.
Have you tried using a gamepad? Kinda destroys the mouse for aiming thing the pc has going for it, but at least you wouldn't have to buy it again.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 03, 2011, 10:08:34 AM
There is the obvious copout of purchasing it on a console, but that's sending the wrong message and would also make my ass pucker due to buying a game twice again.  Maybe there are some modifications I can do to the PC versions.  All I know is that I want to play it now and I don't have much time to waste on making it tolerable.
Have you tried using a gamepad? Kinda destroys the mouse for aiming thing the pc has going for it, but at least you wouldn't have to buy it again.

This is Plan C.  Or D, I don't know.  As you say, I bought it on PC so I could aim with the mouse.  This works great, it's the menus that bother me since the mouse pointer code is obviously the same as the thumb stick code.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on May 03, 2011, 02:12:23 PM
Is there an ini file you can tweak?  In the past there have been games with a horribly slow mouse in menus that I could fix by changing a few constants.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Amaron on May 03, 2011, 02:24:04 PM
Anyone heard anything about Brink?  It looked pretty generic to me but then I heard the people who made Enemy Territory are making it and that piqued my interest.

I believe that's the shooter that has parkour.  Basically CoD meets Mirror's Edge?   Looked pretty cool when I watched some vids of it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 03, 2011, 02:32:42 PM
Is there an ini file you can tweak?  In the past there have been games with a horribly slow mouse in menus that I could fix by changing a few constants.

It's not that it's slow, it's that it doesn't start moving when I move the mouse and it keeps gliding after I stop the mouse.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on May 03, 2011, 03:37:38 PM
Anyone heard anything about Brink?  It looked pretty generic to me but then I heard the people who made Enemy Territory are making it and that piqued my interest.

I believe that's the shooter that has parkour.  Basically CoD meets Mirror's Edge?   Looked pretty cool when I watched some vids of it.

Yeah, it sounds pretty neat in theory, but I'm feeling pretty good on shooters.  Maybe I'll just wait to hear some buzz after release.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on May 03, 2011, 05:47:55 PM
It's not that it's slow, it's that it doesn't start moving when I move the mouse and it keeps gliding after I stop the mouse.
Sounds like software mouse.  You need to look for an option to force it to hardware.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nightblade on May 03, 2011, 08:52:19 PM
Anyone heard anything about Brink?  It looked pretty generic to me but then I heard the people who made Enemy Territory are making it and that piqued my interest.

I believe that's the shooter that has parkour.  Basically CoD meets Mirror's Edge?   Looked pretty cool when I watched some vids of it.

Yeah, it sounds pretty neat in theory, but I'm feeling pretty good on shooters.  Maybe I'll just wait to hear some buzz after release.

If I had to wager it's going to be another PoS forgettable built in mouse acceleration performance issue laden FPS ala bulletstorm, homefront and so on. Petulant dev talk doesn't fill me with much faith either. Would be nice if I was wrong though, haven't had a decent shooter since TF2, BC2 was pretty close though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on May 03, 2011, 09:02:18 PM
Anyone heard anything about Brink?  It looked pretty generic to me but then I heard the people who made Enemy Territory are making it and that piqued my interest.

I believe that's the shooter that has parkour.  Basically CoD meets Mirror's Edge?   Looked pretty cool when I watched some vids of it.

Yeah, it sounds pretty neat in theory, but I'm feeling pretty good on shooters.  Maybe I'll just wait to hear some buzz after release.

If I had to wager it's going to be another PoS forgettable built in mouse acceleration performance issue laden FPS ala bulletstorm, homefront and so on. Petulant dev talk doesn't fill me with much faith either. Would be nice if I was wrong though, haven't had a decent shooter since TF2, BC2 was pretty close though.

This is the feeling I get looking at it, which is why I dismissed it initially.  In fact, the only thing at all that has me interested in how much I loved Enemy Territory.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Strazos on May 03, 2011, 09:33:17 PM
Wolfenstein, or Quake Wars?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Stormwaltz on May 03, 2011, 09:40:43 PM
I believe that's the shooter that has parkour.  Basically CoD meets Mirror's Edge?

Don't forget the avatar customization (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi-WIrr0vTs). Which probably doesn't mean much to FPS junkies, but as an MMORPG player, I think it's neat.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Strazos on May 03, 2011, 09:43:21 PM
Oh, was this the game where the devs weren't going to allow headshot kills because they don't think it's fun for the players or some-such nonsense?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on May 03, 2011, 10:33:06 PM
Wolfenstein, or Quake Wars?

Both, actually.  But I was referring to Wolfenstein as the one I liked a lot.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on May 03, 2011, 10:34:42 PM
Oh, was this the game where the devs weren't going to allow headshot kills because they don't think it's fun for the players or some-such nonsense?

There are a ton of games that take that stance, as far as I know.  Doesn't really seem that strange to me, though I do roll my eyes when they say "no headshots" in a game with dedicated snipers.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Strazos on May 03, 2011, 10:55:15 PM
If a game isn't going to have locational damage scaling, that's fine. But if you have a sniper rifle, and award more damage for head shots...but it still takes 3 shots to kill, that seems silly.

EDIT: Also, Wolfenstein: ET was one of my all-time favorite multiplayer shooters of all time. I loved me some recon and...whatever class got to toss around mortar/airstrikes. I might even have some old screenshots of obnoxious scores hanging around.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kageru on May 04, 2011, 06:11:55 AM

What drives me nuts is that lots of the European games (Grotesque tactics, Magicka and quite a few others) not only don't respect windows settings for left handed mouse they don't allow you to remap it. Grotesque tactics sort of let me remap it but it didn't actually work.

Brink looked somewhat fun in a borderlands sort of "lots of guns" way and the same Junkyard ambience. How deep it is in practice would be a big question. But at 90 USD$ for Australians they can go f**k themselves.
 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Amaron on May 04, 2011, 07:52:45 AM
If I had to wager it's going to be another PoS forgettable built in mouse acceleration performance issue laden FPS ala bulletstorm, homefront and so on. Petulant dev talk doesn't fill me with much faith either. Would be nice if I was wrong though, haven't had a decent shooter since TF2, BC2 was pretty close though.

I don't think it's going to be that bad because it's at least been mostly touted as a multiplayer game.  A lot of the stuff I saw led me to believe they are still fairly PC centric as well.   That of course doesn't mean it will be any good though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: bhodi on May 04, 2011, 03:18:35 PM
I also had the mouse control issue in dead space one. It's caused from not being able to turn off vsync. I managed to make it tolerable by dropping the res by quite a bit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nightblade on May 04, 2011, 03:28:22 PM
Quote
I don't think it's going to be that bad because it's at least been mostly touted as a multiplayer game.  A lot of the stuff I saw led me to believe they are still fairly PC centric as well.   That of course doesn't mean it will be any good though.

What did you see that led you to believe it was going to be PC centric? I remember DICE foaming at the mouth about how they were PC developers first and then I fire up to single player and find the mouse controls nearly unusable, no performance scaling and updates that disappear so that they can "focus on Battlefield 3, this time we're for reals".


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Strazos on May 04, 2011, 04:30:42 PM
I also had the mouse control issue in dead space one. It's caused from not being able to turn off vsync. I managed to make it tolerable by dropping the res by quite a bit.

It seems that in most of my games now I HAVE to have vsync on or else I get terrible tearing. I haven't really noticed a drop in input response, but it's possible I've just adapted without realizing it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 05, 2011, 07:22:36 PM
It's not that it's slow, it's that it doesn't start moving when I move the mouse and it keeps gliding after I stop the mouse.
Sounds like software mouse.  You need to look for an option to force it to hardware.

Google says I'm stuck with it.  Google also says "use a gamepad" and I just might do that.

I'm getting the idea that Black Ops is a good game.  Someone tell me that's bullshit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on May 05, 2011, 07:52:35 PM
It's not that it's slow, it's that it doesn't start moving when I move the mouse and it keeps gliding after I stop the mouse.
Sounds like software mouse.  You need to look for an option to force it to hardware.

Google says I'm stuck with it.  Google also says "use a gamepad" and I just might do that.

I'm getting the idea that Black Ops is a good game.  Someone tell me that's bullshit.

Black Ops is a good multiplayer twitch shooter ala Counter Strike, the single player is trash.  If that sounds up your ally, its a solid choice.  I still get some play out of it when I'm in the mood for a change of pace from Battlefield: BC2.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 05, 2011, 07:55:05 PM
I played CoD4 with some friends and it was fun even though I was the worst one.  Now, however, one of the guys' twelve-year-old son plays and he kicks everyone in the fucking balls.  Damn kids and their reflexes.  So I suppose I'll pass.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on May 07, 2011, 10:25:17 AM
30 minute interview with Gabe Newell

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMgfPU9y3yo

Quote
    What is Valve up to these days?

    With the addition of STEAM to the PSN is Valve planning on shifting development focus to consoles or are you going to remain developing games primarily for the PC?

    How does Valve plan on differentiating the game from the very popular "League of Legends"?

    How do micro transactions affect the future of Valve's business model?

    Do you still plan on making single player games? (dispelling a rumor)

    Do you ever get a chance to play games for fun anymore? If so, what games are you playing?

    Do you plan on deviating from SOURCE or do you plan on indefinitely updating the current engine?

    What games in the last decade do you believe have improved the gaming industry?

    Will Chell from Portal and Gordon Freeman from HL be meeting?

    Why are some of your most famous protagonists silent? How do you feel this affects the games as a whole?

    What advice would you give to somebody aspiring to get into the gaming industry?

    I read that you collect knives. How many knives do you own? What do you like about them?

    What was your favorite game to work on?

Kind of interesting to listen to.  Some of it goes beyond the questions listed here.  Anyway, lots of interesting insight from Gabe on their design process and challenges they face, etc.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on May 08, 2011, 02:20:28 AM
is there a cliff's notes version in text? I can't be arsed listening to a 30 minute interview.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Amaron on May 08, 2011, 09:25:43 AM
What did you see that led you to believe it was going to be PC centric? I remember DICE foaming at the mouth about how they were PC developers first and then I fire up to single player and find the mouse controls nearly unusable, no performance scaling and updates that disappear so that they can "focus on Battlefield 3, this time we're for reals".

No it wasn't anything they claimed.  I can't say as it was anything specific and really it's just a vague hunch after seeing several videos.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on May 09, 2011, 01:38:13 PM
Gabe Newell: We've moved beyond the episodic model (http://www.develop-online.net/news/37625/Newell-Weve-moved-beyond-the-episodic-model)

So... no HL2:Ep3?  :sad:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on May 09, 2011, 01:46:46 PM
Gabe Newell: We've moved beyond the episodic model (http://www.develop-online.net/news/37625/Newell-Weve-moved-beyond-the-episodic-model)

So... no HL2:Ep3?  :sad:

Whether there is or not, I feel like this "Games as a service" model isn't something I like the sound of too much.  Sounds like microtransactions.  I guess we've been going more and more that way for years, so it shouldn't surprise me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: stu on May 09, 2011, 02:08:34 PM
I think what he's saying is that because Valve's fate is tied so closely to the Steam community, they want to have a constant release of content (like what the TF2 devs pump out). He says they get more consistent quality from shorter dev cycles, which is fine with me. If your company takes forever to pump out games, why not look for ways to release content in blocks? I guess the problem they've run into is they don't have a way to tie their crown jewel IP into that format and are using Portal 2 as a test bed.

edit: plus, games on Steam are always moderately priced. It's not like PSN, where items never drop from full price unless you pay it forward with a Plus sub. I mean, they even make you pay for avatars on there. ugghgh


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on May 09, 2011, 02:22:50 PM
It only works for games like TF2. Unless he's implying that Valve is abandoning story-based games. I mean, what would a hat or gun update do for HL3?

And there's definitely an angle they'll mine more in the future with steam, already being able to link over youtube stuff from within steam. I mean...I'm not on facebook but I'm on steam!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on May 09, 2011, 02:34:48 PM
I guess the problem they've run into is they don't have a way to tie their crown jewel IP into that format and are using Portal 2 as a test bed.


Is Half Life even their key franchise anymore?  I bet people younger than 18-20 don't even know what it is, on average.  Hell, even when the original Counter Strike was popular there were tons of people who had no idea what Half Life was, and that was a mod for HL for years before it was stand alone.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 09, 2011, 03:24:14 PM
Pretty sure their key franchise is Counter-Strike.

Also I noticed that gog.com has decided to ignore its customers' geo-location... just in time for the Witcher 2 release.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on May 09, 2011, 03:35:10 PM
Gabe Newell: We've moved beyond the episodic model (http://www.develop-online.net/news/37625/Newell-Weve-moved-beyond-the-episodic-model)

So... no HL2:Ep3?  :sad:

Whether there is or not, I feel like this "Games as a service" model isn't something I like the sound of too much.  Sounds like microtransactions.  I guess we've been going more and more that way for years, so it shouldn't surprise me.

I can understand the concept inside the framework of games like Portal, TF2, LFD2 and Counterstrike. You start with a small game which is in itself a platform and a service, then you expand within. So you add a constant stream of small additions, which keeps people interested, but you avoid hassle at the front end by making smaller games. You can expand the definition of the game with new modes, for example challenge maps in Portal 2. I agree though, I don't see clearly how this works for a story-based single-player game. Perhaps in the fullness of time Valve will just move away from that. Frankly, other than Half-Life, all their other games fall into the 'Games as a service' model much better: Dota2, TF2, Alien Swarm, LFD2, CS. None of these are particularly story based in a way that cannot be addressed with the addition of a new map. The only way I could see it working for a story-based game would be in the context of some hub-based game where the stream of content is akin to DLC that you get in hour-long chunks or so. This wouldn't seem on the face of things to support a good narrative though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: stu on May 09, 2011, 07:57:28 PM
I would say they are taking the notion that if you know your world well enough, story will come out in the atmosphere and environment rather than through cut scenes. Like the messages on walls in L4D or Portal. By placing emphasis on settings, you get more flexibility in the long run. They may have hamstrung themselves with HL because the story has to keep escalating in quality in order to provide a meaningful experience with each new iteration.




Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: bhodi on May 10, 2011, 01:39:56 PM
It only works for games like TF2. Unless he's implying that Valve is abandoning story-based games. I mean, what would a hat or gun update do for HL3?
Look at mass effect 2 DLC as an example of gradual releases for a single player game to keep people interested in the wider story/universe.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 10, 2011, 02:44:58 PM
The Mass Effect DLC is a great example.

The problem that I see with letting the story seep out as a player discovers the world is that some of it comes across as a bit too obvious and ham-handed.  I keep wondering who has left all that graffiti in the Aperture Enrichment center, and how did they determine where to put those arrows?  Obviously the arrows are there to lead the player on, and this is an extreme version of letting the world tell the story.  Another one is the smear on the wall in Dead Space that tells you to shoot off their limbs; this always has a Castle Aaaaarrghh feel to it.  That tactic didn't seem to work out for the other fellow, but he had time to write this on a wall?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on May 10, 2011, 02:45:07 PM
Excellent example! Hadn't thought of it.

I also didn't consider Gabe has a front row seat for what's selling on Steam and loves statistics.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on May 10, 2011, 03:14:55 PM
I keep wondering who has left all that graffiti in the Aperture Enrichment center, and how did they determine where to put those arrows? 

Valve did an entire comic to answer that question. (http://www.thinkwithportals.com/comic/)   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on May 10, 2011, 04:31:55 PM
That comic is terrible.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on May 10, 2011, 04:45:02 PM
New challenger for worst game ever? Thor: God of Thunder Review . (http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/thor/review.html)  Would have been much better if Kevin Van Ord took a shot at this..


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on May 10, 2011, 08:32:14 PM
Gabe Newell: We've moved beyond the episodic model (http://www.develop-online.net/news/37625/Newell-Weve-moved-beyond-the-episodic-model)

So... no HL2:Ep3?  :sad:

Might just be Half-Life 3 instead. I think by "moved beyond" he means "it was an utter failure in execution".


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on May 10, 2011, 09:21:27 PM
The Mass Effect DLC is a great example.

I haven't played ME yet, but the downside to that sort of thing is Alan Wake syndrome, where they deliberately left out the ending to the game/story in order to sell it to you as separate DLC. And while not the most expensive, at 560msp a pop, not on the cheap side, either. A pretty good reason to skip that particular game. (For me, anyway).



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on May 11, 2011, 02:35:44 AM
The problem that I see with letting the story seep out as a player discovers the world is that some of it comes across as a bit too obvious and ham-handed.  I keep wondering who has left all that graffiti in the Aperture Enrichment center, and how did they determine where to put those arrows?  Obviously the arrows are there to lead the player on, and this is an extreme version of letting the world tell the story.  Another one is the smear on the wall in Dead Space that tells you to shoot off their limbs; this always has a Castle Aaaaarrghh feel to it.  That tactic didn't seem to work out for the other fellow, but he had time to write this on a wall?

I went to a GDC presentation about this sort of thing. Basically you have graffiti and audio logs and...well that's basically it. In one or two games it's effective but it's reaching the point of generic cliche. I remember playing Fatal Frame and at that time the audio tapes you found were really cool, now I roll my eyes when a new game advertises the incredible immersion of discovering audio logs.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on May 11, 2011, 07:15:11 AM
has reached


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 11, 2011, 03:48:41 PM
Valve did an entire comic to answer that question. (http://www.thinkwithportals.com/comic/)   :awesome_for_real:

what


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 11, 2011, 03:51:20 PM
The problem that I see with letting the story seep out as a player discovers the world is that some of it comes across as a bit too obvious and ham-handed.  I keep wondering who has left all that graffiti in the Aperture Enrichment center, and how did they determine where to put those arrows?  Obviously the arrows are there to lead the player on, and this is an extreme version of letting the world tell the story.  Another one is the smear on the wall in Dead Space that tells you to shoot off their limbs; this always has a Castle Aaaaarrghh feel to it.  That tactic didn't seem to work out for the other fellow, but he had time to write this on a wall?

I went to a GDC presentation about this sort of thing. Basically you have graffiti and audio logs and...well that's basically it. In one or two games it's effective but it's reaching the point of generic cliche. I remember playing Fatal Frame and at that time the audio tapes you found were really cool, now I roll my eyes when a new game advertises the incredible immersion of discovering audio logs.

I agree completely on this.  To me this was stale after System Shock 2.  I made fun of it, but HL2 at least had NPCs for you to talk to instead of recordings.  It's one of those issues that every designer knows about but so far no one has devised a good replacement for.  When someone does, it will be like the Chronicles of Riddick health system all over again.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on May 11, 2011, 06:13:59 PM
What was that? Regenerating health?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 12, 2011, 11:06:27 AM
Yes, in the primal form it was regenerating health as long as you didn't lose an entire "block" of health.  I believe this led not only to immediate clones but also to the modern day implementation of full regeneration if you can just hide behind a tree for a bit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 18, 2011, 03:10:02 PM
Looks like the Wii is $150 now and Twilight Princess is $20 (overpriced).  Another kick-Sony-while-he's-down or business-as-usual?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on May 18, 2011, 03:37:52 PM
Looks like the Wii is $150 now and Twilight Princess is $20 (overpriced).  Another kick-Sony-while-he's-down or business-as-usual?

I think it's just the response to flagging Wii sales combined with the fact that they're due to show a new home console this E3.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 18, 2011, 11:52:14 PM
You are probably right, I'm just not giving much thought to this new console.  I expect very little.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on May 21, 2011, 11:37:36 PM
Anyone have any advice on a nice gaming headset?  I think mine is starting to die, so I want to shop around a bit before they bite it completely.  I've heard good things about Steel Series, but it might be more than I want/need.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on May 22, 2011, 12:08:52 AM
I've owned about six pairs in 10 years, ranging from $15 to $120.  I'm back to using a $20 simple cheap headset because all the upper end ones have janky stuff going on. 

My Steel Series had a short boom that I had to pull forward with one hand to talk loud enough for folks to hear me.  I wasn't impressed with the design, either.  It was large, heavy and got sweaty.  ymmv.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Strazos on May 22, 2011, 12:32:15 AM
The logitech sets I've had generally work nicely, though the one I have cuts out in one of the ears sometimes. I think it's because it has a rather long cord which is prone to getting stuck under the wheels of my chair.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sjofn on May 22, 2011, 01:40:46 AM
I like logitech too, for whatever that may be worth.

Next Sims 3 expansion is apparently out at the end of the month. Sounds like the devs went "oooohhhh riiiiiight, it's a sandbox game" and mostly focused on beefing up more social stuff for the Sims in the ages that aren't young adult/adult. I know I'm the only one who cares, but goddammit, I need to say it somewhere.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: caladein on May 22, 2011, 02:13:03 AM
Yeah, this one looks like one whose features I won't wind up avoiding nearly entirely (hello to you Late Night and your stupid elevators) after a week.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sjofn on May 22, 2011, 07:15:41 PM
The elevators are pretty shitty, yeah. I built a bunch of my own nightclubs and crap for my other neighborhoods and ditched the new one because of them. Most of the rest of Late Night I liked though, although trying to be a band seems pretty buggy too.

I still miss having weather, though. :((((((((


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on May 25, 2011, 07:21:36 AM
Caught this from Kotaku, got a giggle.

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In a financial meeting, Square Enix president Yoichi Wada said the company was working on a big MMO in addition to Final Fantasy XIV. "I think we will reveal it sometime this year," said Wada.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Amaron on May 27, 2011, 08:25:19 AM
(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/3118/facebookdisaster.png)

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/44508/EA-preparing-Simpsons-Facebook-game (http://www.mcvuk.com/news/44508/EA-preparing-Simpsons-Facebook-game)

 :mob:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on May 27, 2011, 09:55:36 AM
11 Million player deaths in Just Cause 2 mapped. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEoxaGkNcrg&feature=player_embedded#at=59)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nightblade on May 27, 2011, 10:34:33 AM
Anyone have any advice on a nice gaming headset?  I think mine is starting to die, so I want to shop around a bit before they bite it completely.  I've heard good things about Steel Series, but it might be more than I want/need.

HD555 Sennheiser headphones - Superior quality at a great price. Great durability too. I once threw them onto the floor in a fit of rage last year and they still work perfectly. http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD555-Professional-Headphones-Channeling/dp/B0001FTVDQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1306510772&sr=8-1 I bought them for 169 but Im seeing them for 84.99 now. Fantastic product.

For the mic, you can buy a zalman mic that clips on to the headset's single wire. http://www.amazon.com/Zalman-Microphone-Zm-Mic1-Sensitivity-Headphone/dp/B00029MTMQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1306510805&sr=8-1 I use this, great range and clarity.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on May 27, 2011, 11:34:52 AM
That's an interesting idea. I have a decent pair of cheap Sennheisers (hd280) for monitoring my mixer, a clip-on mic would be great for those. On the other hand, I like to keep the headphones for voice and have the game sound through the speakers.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on May 27, 2011, 11:44:27 AM
I cannot recommend Sennheiser's highly enough; I have a pair of HD202s for work and they are ideally suited.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ffc on May 27, 2011, 01:23:26 PM
Saw this post about the "official" PS3 headset (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/05/27/new-official-wireless-stereo-headset-coming-for-ps3/) today.

A nice feature of the HD555 is it's open meaning you get a bigger sound stage so you can really pinpoint which directions sounds are coming from in contrast to closed headsets. Open headsets mean less sound isolation though so if you play in a noisy environment you will hear stuff going on around you and your environment will also hear you.  A bonus is these also make your ears less hot.

If playing on a console, you can add the Astro Mixamp for virtual surround sound and chat volume control or the Turtle Beach DSS with no chat volume control.

Coming from my AXPRO headset, which impressed me at first but now I hate for a variety of reasons, stay away from headsets touting multiple speakers in each ear.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ivanneth on May 27, 2011, 06:38:00 PM
HD555 Sennheiser headphones - Superior quality at a great price. Great durability too. I once threw them onto the floor in a fit of rage last year and they still work perfectly. http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD555-Professional-Headphones-Channeling/dp/B0001FTVDQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1306510772&sr=8-1 I bought them for 169 but Im seeing them for 84.99 now. Fantastic product.

I have a pair of these. They're terrific - good quality, and most importantly they're comfortable. I can wear them for hours at a time and my ears don't hurt afterward. A lot of headphones are painful if you wear them for more than just a few minutes at a time.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on May 27, 2011, 06:44:39 PM
Feel similarly about my Logitech G35 headset, very comfortable.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Strazos on May 27, 2011, 10:22:14 PM
That's an interesting idea. I have a decent pair of cheap Sennheisers (hd280) for monitoring my mixer, a clip-on mic would be great for those. On the other hand, I like to keep the headphones for voice and have the game sound through the speakers.

How do you even do that? I would be interested to know if it's even possible.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on May 29, 2011, 07:23:38 PM
Not really sure where to post it - so randomness goes here.   http://www.kongregate.com/games/VagaDragon/heal-a-mole

Faithful recreation imo.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on May 29, 2011, 08:55:56 PM
How do you even do that? I would be interested to know if it's even possible.
USB headset and route voice comm app into that, game sounds through speakers/sound card.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: caladein on May 29, 2011, 09:10:25 PM
Yes.  A USB headset is its own soundcard so any VOIP program can route its output/input to it.

You can do a similar thing with a normal headset if you've got a dedicated soundcard and onboard sound.  That's how I've got the TV set-up in my room.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Strazos on May 29, 2011, 09:22:50 PM
Interesting...is it easy to swap back-and-forth between routing everything to the USB headset, and routing only the voice to it? I think I would like to do this at time, but often I simply want everything to come through the headphones.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on May 30, 2011, 12:50:31 AM
Probably depends on what software you're using; in Ventrilo it's a simple dropdown menu to change from one output device to another.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ard on June 02, 2011, 02:49:02 PM
Welp, GoG just announced a publishing deal with EA.  They're going to be putting out a chunk of EA's old backlog, starting with Dungeon Keeper, Ultima Underworld, and Wing Commander:  Privateer, with Alpha Centauri coming down the pipe shortly also.  Looks like they've got their hooks into the old bullfrog, maxis, and origin stuff, so cross your fingers. 

http://www.gog.com/en/news/gog_com_s_catalog_gets_huge_with_addition_of_classic_ea_titles


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: caladein on June 02, 2011, 05:35:22 PM
Interesting...is it easy to swap back-and-forth between routing everything to the USB headset, and routing only the voice to it? I think I would like to do this at time, but often I simply want everything to come through the headphones.

Well, you won't be able to do it on the fly with games.  Most don't seem to like switching audio outputs midstream.  Aside from that it's pretty simple.

Have everything set to "Default Device" except for your VOIP program(s) which you've set specifically to go to the headset.  In Mumble, go to Configure -> Settings -> Audio Output, and that'll look like:


Then, you just need to change the default device in Windows whenever you want to swap everything else from the speakers to the headset or back.  In Windows 7, you can either get to it from Sound in the Control Panel or by right-clicking on the volume setting in the notification area and choosing Playback devices:


You could also get your AutoIt on (http://superuser.com/questions/22996/windows-vista-7-managing-multiple-audio-playback-devices), which I'm always on the verge of doing :uhrr:.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Strazos on June 02, 2011, 05:38:47 PM
So if I only use onboard sound, and added a USB headset...I could do this maybe?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: caladein on June 02, 2011, 06:25:06 PM
Should be able to, yeah.  I haven't run into a USB headset that didn't also count as its own soundcard to Windows.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Strazos on June 02, 2011, 07:50:38 PM
Totally off-topic, but for whatever reason today I had the thought that it was unfortunate that neither GOG nor Steam have either of the NOLF games - they were great.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on June 05, 2011, 07:12:25 PM
Anyone have any advice on a nice gaming headset?  I think mine is starting to die, so I want to shop around a bit before they bite it completely.  I've heard good things about Steel Series, but it might be more than I want/need.

I keep hearing about how wonderful Turtle Beach ones are supposed to be. I don't use headphones at all though, so I can't vouch either way.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: lamaros on June 05, 2011, 07:23:40 PM
Just on headphones again: I have a paid of Sennheiser HD570s that I have had since about 2003-2003. They are still great and I use them nearly every day. Great computer/gaming headphones.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on June 08, 2011, 11:22:29 AM
11 Million player deaths in Just Cause 2 mapped. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEoxaGkNcrg&feature=player_embedded#at=59)

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/85916/clappingbear.gif)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on June 08, 2011, 01:03:44 PM
Dominions 3 demo, I want to like you, but you make it so very very hard.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on June 08, 2011, 02:04:16 PM
Speaking of shit demos, I can't even get the Dungeon Siege III demo to start up.  Oh, Obsidian!  Why do you keep getting work?

While I was away on vacation, I learned that sometimes save glitches in Daggerdale will eat your equipment and skill points.  If anyone was entertaining the idea of trying this, avoid instead.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mosesandstick on June 08, 2011, 05:35:31 PM
Didn't enjoy the Dungeon Siege 3 demo at all. It's basically a console style ARPG. Awful to play with kb+m.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on June 08, 2011, 05:45:15 PM
From what I've read, Dungeon Siege 3's multiplayer is also kinda crappy.  You can't have two people playing the same character, and all the loot and xp is only saved in the host's game.  So unless you always play with the same group, your character won't get anything from playing multi.  So it sounds like it's a good game to play on a console with a set group of friends, but that's about it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on June 08, 2011, 06:44:20 PM
all the loot and xp is only saved in the host's game.

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/85916/huh.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on June 12, 2011, 09:54:17 AM
Didn't enjoy the Dungeon Siege 3 demo at all. It's basically a console style ARPG. Awful to play with kb+m.

I just tried the demo and I think Moses was underselling just how awful the controls were.   Imagine a game meant to be played with a thumbstick. Now make it so half the controls are on your mouse and half are on your keyboard.  Now give it a software mouse that is so floaty you move your mouse across your entire pad and it only goes 3/4 of the screen at best. This mouse also can't be disabled to use your OS settings and has no sensitivity controls.

Yeah.. if you're going to buy this game do not do it for PC. You do so at your own peril.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on June 14, 2011, 09:20:14 AM
Did you try it with a gamepad?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on June 14, 2011, 11:34:34 AM
No, because I own consoles.  If I didn't I'd be inclined to own a PC Gamepad, but I don't so I didn't.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on June 14, 2011, 12:59:14 PM
No, because I own consoles.  If I didn't I'd be inclined to own a PC Gamepad, but I don't so I didn't.

Don't Xbox pads work with PCs? 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on June 14, 2011, 01:23:40 PM
No, because I own consoles.  If I didn't I'd be inclined to own a PC Gamepad, but I don't so I didn't.

Don't Xbox pads work with PCs? 

If you only have wireless ones, like most people these days, you have to go buy extra hardware to make it work I believe.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on June 14, 2011, 07:16:56 PM
Dungeon Siege III is shit on PS3 as well.  Sorry to say that a gamepad isn't going to make this amalgam of KotOR and Daggerdale into something awesome.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on June 14, 2011, 08:06:19 PM
It has a miracle patch, just you wait and see.   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on June 15, 2011, 08:34:03 AM
Oh, I am. :awesome_for_real: I'll download it right after that Anarchy Online miracle patch.  Those guys sure are taking their time.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on June 15, 2011, 11:57:20 AM
PS3 wireless controllers work on PC if you plug them in with the USB charging cable and download the appropriate drivers.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on June 15, 2011, 12:09:46 PM
I've tried doing that.  Mapping the controls for a certain game was an exercise in futility.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ffc on June 15, 2011, 12:24:49 PM
Besides Dungeon Siege's snooze demo it's the online multiplayer approach that bugs me.  Even Dungeon Hunter: Alliance, a PSN cell phone game port for $15 lets you keep your loot / gold / xp on your character.  Same with Hunted: The Demon's Forge.  

I think the excuse is Dungeon Siege tries to have a narrative focus so players can't keep goodies across different games.  Maybe the narrative focus can be patched out and fun be patched in.

For PS3 controllers on a PC, this clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfAs30v_730) lays out how to get them connected and on bluetooth.  Going to try it with Witcher 2.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on June 15, 2011, 05:38:19 PM
I've tried doing that.  Mapping the controls for a certain game was an exercise in futility.
The wife tried the same thing with DCUO and her attempts made me decide it wasn't worth it for any game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on June 15, 2011, 10:08:55 PM
I did it for the FFXIV beta, so I just attributed any sucking to FFXIV and assumed the controller had worked fine.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mosesandstick on June 17, 2011, 04:45:30 PM
Damn, my 360 just red ringed after a system update.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on June 25, 2011, 08:11:23 PM
Not really sure where to put this so maybe someone will find it here:  Fallout 1 and 2 are on sale at gog.com for 3 bucks a piece right now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Quinton on June 25, 2011, 10:17:09 PM
Not really sure where to put this so maybe someone will find it here:  Fallout 1 and 2 are on sale at gog.com for 3 bucks a piece right now.

Oooh.  I've never played the original fallout. For $3, how can I not?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on June 25, 2011, 10:55:49 PM
It's worth more than that, for sure.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Quinton on June 25, 2011, 11:10:12 PM
Fallout Tip: If the game is slow/laggy, try moving or deleting ddraw.dll from the game folder.  Made an enormous difference on my win7 box.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on June 26, 2011, 07:22:58 AM
Incidentally, Fallout 2 doesn't feel "old" like a lot of games I go back and play, holds up surprisingly well.  Enjoying that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on July 13, 2011, 02:33:57 AM
If you need more reason not to buy the latest XCOM FPS iteration by these degenerates, here's why:

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/interview-christophhartmann-2kgames/082216

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He explains: “The ‘90s generation of gamers all love Xcom and we own the IP, so we thought OK, what do we do with it? Every studio we had wanted to do it and each one had its own spin on it. But the problem was that turn-based strategy games were no longer the hottest thing on planet Earth. But this is not just a commercial thing – strategy games are just not contemporary.

“I use the example of music artists. Look at someone old school like Ray Charles, if he would make music today it would still be Ray Charles but he would probably do it more in the style of Kanye West. Bringing Ray Charles back is all fine and good, but it just needs to move on, although the core essence will still be the same."

Urge. To kill. Rising.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on July 13, 2011, 03:18:48 AM
Game designers are shallow as fuck. I honestly hadn't considered that as an explanation, but it fits so many things.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on July 13, 2011, 04:06:53 AM


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He explains: “The ‘90s generation of gamers all love Xcom and we own the IP, so we thought OK, what do we do with it? Every studio we had wanted to do it and each one had its own spin on it. But the problem was that turn-based strategy games were no longer the hottest thing on planet Earth. But this is not just a commercial thing – strategy games are just not contemporary.

“I use the example of-.
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Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on July 13, 2011, 04:22:55 AM
Are you thinking of Divinity 2?

No, it's the game with nipple tipped sorceress showing up to save the hero at the start right? With orcs cast helping him out?
I fought all the way till the end, just desperate to end the game...but the final boss turret fight turned me off. :(


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tgr on July 13, 2011, 05:11:13 AM
That's an ... interesting take on "we're going to take an IP, rip all of it out, probably make a shit shooter in the normal shooter style of 2011, and swim in money because people are dumb".


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on July 13, 2011, 08:36:22 AM
The similarities between game development and real estate development seem eerily similar. A niche gets popular, everyone starts to build in it, even when the market is starting to get saturated. Then people with no business building in it start building in it, and eventually the demand tanks and everyone's left holding their dicks.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on July 13, 2011, 08:53:17 AM
Well Civ is certainly popular, but he is kind of right.  This forum is full of old gamers.  Turn based strategy isn't going to bring home the bacon, especially not if you intend to release on consoles.  Granted, I don't expect much from the game, but from a business standpoint I can't say anything he said is particularly wrong.  People want to shoot shit in the face, or stab stuff in the face, and they want to do it in real time and literally any game where you don't do some variation on that theme isn't going to be particularly popular.  Please don't bring up facebook games, its a different story.  Name a turn based game that has even released in the last decade that was popular that wasn't a Civ game?  I'm sure there are some, and certainly there are successful niche games out there, but I'm talking big budget AAA type titles.

Edit: I wrote off the new game the moment I heard it was going to be a shooter, so I'm well over the rage part, which might be influencing this.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 13, 2011, 09:08:40 AM
Chicken, egg. People aren't putting money into TBS, not a lot of high quality TBS coming out.

There's room for success in all genres, but obviously if you're some pointy-headed moron who only aims to outsell everyone on earth to stoke your ego as an amazing suittard and receive the mighty accolades of the shareholders, then yes, you're making a shooter.

What really surprises me is that it's not a facebook game at this point. Shooters are so aughts.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on July 13, 2011, 09:11:16 AM
My point is that the FPS market is dominated by a few franchises, but otherwise it's getting oversaturated to the point that it's waning as a viable development option.

In the PC Market the best selling games (not counting sequals) are dominated by strategy and role-playing. On the consoles, they are FPS, racing, and sports.

However, even though there was an increase in spending in Q1 of 2011 on video games, FPS games are not taking the top spots. They won't be the it thing for much longer when consumers get tired of the same derivative crap. There will be loyalty to the franchises they know and love (CoD, Halo, etc.) but new adopters shouldn't try to be hitting that market. They need to be thinking ahead, and a good way is to see if they can make the crossover strategy game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on July 13, 2011, 09:12:36 AM
Game developers (for the most part) aren't business people.  They don't strategically think ahead like that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on July 13, 2011, 09:36:16 AM
Game developers (for the most part) aren't business people.  They don't strategically think ahead like that.

TBH, only the people that are most successful at what they do think strategically ahead. The rest try to cash in on proven success. Innovation is rare; homogonization is the norm.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on July 13, 2011, 10:06:05 AM

In the PC Market the best selling games (not counting sequals) are dominated by strategy and role-playing. On the consoles, they are FPS, racing, and sports.


Is that true though?  I don't know how it relates to overall sales, but in the top 10 of played Steam games 7 are shooters.  The others being Civ 5 (Strategy), Terraria (RPG? I don't really know how to define it), and Football Manager 2011 which I guess is a sim?

I guess my point is, if you are going to pitch reviving the XCOM series, I don't really feel like TBS is going to seem like the first option.  Even something which got across the board great reviews like Frozen Synapse isn't even on the top 100 on Steam right now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 13, 2011, 10:14:21 AM
And my point is if you gauge your business success by whether or not you dominate the sales charts, you're a fucking moron.

While that's certainly nice, what happened to making a good profit on a solid game?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on July 13, 2011, 10:43:46 AM
Is that true though?  I don't know how it relates to overall sales, but in the top 10 of played Steam games 7 are shooters.  The others being Civ 5 (Strategy), Terraria (RPG? I don't really know how to define it), and Football Manager 2011 which I guess is a sim?

I guess my point is, if you are going to pitch reviving the XCOM series, I don't really feel like TBS is going to seem like the first option.  Even something which got across the board great reviews like Frozen Synapse isn't even on the top 100 on Steam right now.

I was referring to historically and current. Sims games, Civ games, WoW, Diablo, the Tycoon franchise, Half-Life, Doom series, Command and Conquer series, Age of Empires, Anno, Crysis, Counterstrike, Baldur's Gate.

Those are the types of games that sold the most on the PC.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on July 13, 2011, 11:13:32 AM
And my point is if you gauge your business success by whether or not you dominate the sales charts, you're a fucking moron.

While that's certainly nice, what happened to making a good profit on a solid game?

It still happens, Paradox comes to mind for example.  In a world where quarterly profits are all that matter (video games aren't at all unique in this regard), that doesn't sound appealing to someone funding your development though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on July 13, 2011, 11:42:14 AM
That Ray Charles bit makes me want to stab that guy in the fucking face.

Look, you fucking assclown. Ray Charles made music til the day he died, and it sold, you fucking monkey. He wouldn't make music like Kayne Fucking West, you ignorant crotchpheasant, because Ray Charles had fucking talent and Kayne is a media spinning self-promoting whore with one decent song. If what you make isn't a shit sandwich (like all the other attempts to make an X-Com game that was nothing like the original), people will likely buy it. You essentially just said you didn't want to make a TBS game because it's not "the new hotness." Enjoy your mediocre sales.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Amaron on July 13, 2011, 12:07:38 PM
 Turn based strategy isn't going to bring home the bacon, especially not if you intend to release on consoles.  

So don't release it to consoles.   Release it to handhelds/PCs where turn based = making bank.   The real problem here is they think the IP is worth something separated from it's gameplay.   Nobody is going to go into this FPS thinking they are going to get a nostalgia kick.   At least when they fucked over Fallout it still had appeal due to the story/lore/whatever.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on July 13, 2011, 12:12:24 PM
This isn't the thread for this conversation.  We have a thread specifically titled for this kind of discussion.  

BAD, RK, BAD.  

edit: split and merged. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on July 13, 2011, 12:49:13 PM
Turn based strategy isn't going to bring home the bacon, especially not if you intend to release on consoles.  

So don't release it to consoles.   Release it to handhelds/PCs where turn based = making bank.   The real problem here is they think the IP is worth something separated from it's gameplay.   Nobody is going to go into this FPS thinking they are going to get a nostalgia kick.   At least when they fucked over Fallout it still had appeal due to the story/lore/whatever.

I'm not disagreeing with you at all.   I WANT this to be a TBS game.  I also understand why it isn't is all I'm saying.  I think Fallout 3 actually turned out OK, and New Vegas (which I'm just now getting to) seems a reasonable successor.  A big difference is that Fallout basically got switched over to a proven model (Bethesda's RPGs ala Morrowind and Oblivion).  I think you are on point about the IP though.  Anyone they are going to get by switching over to a shooter probably isn't going to know a damn thing about the IP anyway.  You probably could have said the same thing about Fallout, but Bethesda was a big enough name at the time to make up for it in terms of marketing, and had a built in RPG fanbase that was going to probably buy the game.  I don't know that 2k can really say the same thing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on July 15, 2011, 12:42:30 AM
Fuck turn based. You're so right Hartman, even idiots agree with you on how to remake a classic turn based IP is to make it Real Time.

Lads & Gents...I present you...JAGGED ALLIANCE 2 Reloaded.

Quote from: zeitgeist
Not sure if this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZkkIW9rKrM) has been posted yet, but it reveals some more info about the map sectors, the merc recruitment system, and the UI in general. Oh yeah, and the merc portraits are every bit as horrible as expected.

(http://i56.tinypic.com/2qmnu6b.jpg) (http://i56.tinypic.com/ezes5z.jpg)

The above is SO MUCH better than the original isn't it?

(http://files.myopera.com/Leevi/albums/676053/JA2-Buns.jpg)

 :uhrr:



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on July 15, 2011, 11:53:12 AM
Usually I don't think this kind of thing is particularly interesting, but this was:
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-crucial-lessons-learned-by-watching-kids-play-video-games/

In short, those 5 things are:

1) They Don't Tolerate Losing, So Modern Games Just Let Them Win

2) They Have No Tolerance for "Grinding"

3)If They Want to Read, They'll Buy a Fucking Book

4) They Press "Y" to Skip, as Fast as They Can

5) Don't Like it? Break It.


I'm not really sure how much I agree with everything he notices/says in the article, but I wonder if this is a generational thing or a hardcore/casual thing.   The ultimate conclusion he comes to is that the kids just enjoy the entertainment and anything they view as not immediately entertaining isn't worth their time.  The bigger question is whether or not this is a good thing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on July 15, 2011, 12:32:51 PM
A big problem I have in games is that by the end it's so ridiculously easy, but at the beginning it was difficult. I think you should have the reverse. The game should throw bigger obstacles at you as you go, not just the same thing where you now overpower the hell out of it.

And I don't mean scaling here, I mean a static mountain to climb.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Amaron on July 15, 2011, 02:23:11 PM
Those bullet points are just labeled in a way to be controversial.   You could easily label it with his own arguments as:

1)  Old school punch you in the nuts difficulty is not popular and probably wasn't ever popular.
2)  Kids not dumb enough to grind stupid shit like we did.
3)  Nobody reads WoW style quest text.   Voice acting is expected.
4)  Some people still don't like cutscenes in their action games.
5)  I've no clue wtf he's trying to say here.  Mods are cool?

It's not very alarming to me.   Games being too easy is more of a design problem I think.   Plenty of people would put up with difficulty if it was less punch you in the nuts and more "making 3 point shots is hard".   People bitch about cutscenes and story all the time but it's not going anywhere.

There are far more alarming things going on in the industry than the above.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on July 15, 2011, 03:15:00 PM
I don't disagree with getting rid of nut-punching stuff, or reading text, or stupid grinds. Having gone back and tried to play games like Gothic and you go, wow that's messed up.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: cironian on July 15, 2011, 03:40:08 PM
It simply comes down to the huge development budgets the big publishers demand to be invested into presentation (it's not like the game mechanics themselves are getting more expensive). The "few" TBS fans aren't really enough to justify that kind of money, so anyone rich enough to buy a classic brand will always turn it into something unrecognizable.

All the big players getting out of the TBS pool is exactly why I'm currently building my own little thing there. I figure without the big publishers cornering the market, a (mostly) one-man project in the genre might earn me enough to pay my bills. Let's see how that bright idea works out.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on July 15, 2011, 04:20:10 PM
Just build Alpha Centauri 2. Anyone.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on July 15, 2011, 04:57:24 PM
Just build Alpha Centauri 2. Anyone.

No matter how wrong you might be about stuff in the baseball thread, we can always share this.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Amaron on July 15, 2011, 05:24:44 PM
Just build Alpha Centauri 2. Anyone.

This x1000.   There's tons of big seller game types that have been flat out abandoned.   Instead we see and endless progression of rythym games, shooter acid trips, and punt a gnome games.   Mother fuckers need to get off the drugs and go copy Silent Storm, Alpha Centauri, XCOM, Master of Orion, etc.   Don't even try to bring in some whacky ass shit.  Just carbon copy that shit and fix the hotkeys/interface.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on July 15, 2011, 05:35:55 PM
Thanks for bringing up Silent Storm.  I was this || close to getting over the stupid mecha shit in that game.

Have a good war.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Amaron on July 15, 2011, 08:19:23 PM
Well the advantage of a "spirit of" carbon copy of Silent Storm is no mecha shit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on July 15, 2011, 10:07:58 PM
Just build Alpha Centauri 2. Anyone.

Yes please. In Real Time with 3 playable huamn factions with perfect rushes, micro and macro rewarding plus battle-net style of hosting.  :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Amaron on July 15, 2011, 10:54:41 PM
Yes please. In Real Time with 3 playable huamn factions with perfect rushes, micro and macro rewarding plus battle-net style of hosting.  :grin:

The part about rushes, micro, and macro were enough to push this into not sure if serious territory.   Well done sir.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mosesandstick on July 27, 2011, 06:37:21 PM
Just finished Prince of Persia (the cel-shaded one). Despite the slightly average reviews it's one of the games I've enjoyed the most, and not having a fairy tale ending was a cherry on top.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on July 27, 2011, 07:37:14 PM
I don't know how long I'll be using this ass of a computer, so does anyone have suggestions of Steam games which are not graphically intensive yet fun?  Besides Peggle and Puzzle Quest?  Something neckbeardy is fine, too, although I prefer more of a neckgoatee-grade experience until I can get a better job.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on July 27, 2011, 08:03:22 PM
I don't know how long I'll be using this ass of a computer, so does anyone have suggestions of Steam games which are not graphically intensive yet fun?  Besides Peggle and Puzzle Quest?  Something neckbeardy is fine, too, although I prefer more of a neckgoatee-grade experience until I can get a better job.

How bad are we talking?  Maybe a better way of asking is - what is an example of something you can run fine.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on July 27, 2011, 09:06:54 PM
I don't know how long I'll be using this ass of a computer, so does anyone have suggestions of Steam games which are not graphically intensive yet fun?  Besides Peggle and Puzzle Quest?  Something neckbeardy is fine, too, although I prefer more of a neckgoatee-grade experience until I can get a better job.

Install a SNES emu and go crazy.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on July 27, 2011, 09:19:34 PM
I don't know how long I'll be using this ass of a computer, so does anyone have suggestions of Steam games which are not graphically intensive yet fun?  Besides Peggle and Puzzle Quest?  Something neckbeardy is fine, too, although I prefer more of a neckgoatee-grade experience until I can get a better job.

Do you like the Paradox Europa Universalis-style games? They play well on terrible machines.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on July 27, 2011, 09:48:17 PM
It's a relatively new laptop.  In fact, I can run LotRO at mid-level, AKA What Is So Awesome About This Game's Graphics I Don't Get It level.  One big factor is they keyboard having a retarded layout.  Example: SHIFT+NumPad . to Delete, and Fn+SHIFT+Left Arrow for Home.  I never realized I used End and Home so much.

It's not something I want to play an action game on, not a FPS for sure, and I don't want to play Awesome Game and have to drop it to Not Awesome Graphics settings.  I can run Torchlight fine if I drop it from max settings.  I haven't tried many other games.

Do you like the Paradox Europa Universalis-style games? They play well on terrible machines.

Actually this just might be a great excuse to start and make progress on a EUIII game.  I bought the box somewhere for $5.99 and haven't really done much with it.

I used to be very into complex games, but Real Life happened.  I think if Disgaea had come out when I was in my teens, I'd be some sort of single gamer troll that never went outside.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on July 27, 2011, 09:58:28 PM
EUIII is probably a good choice if you already own it anyway.  Also, you can download and play the Project Zomboid tech demo for free.  Its surprisingly replayable for such an early version, and feels satisfyingly old school.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 28, 2011, 08:46:19 AM
It's a relatively new laptop.  In fact, I can run LotRO at mid-level, AKA What Is So Awesome About This Game's Graphics I Don't Get It level.  One big factor is they keyboard having a retarded layout.  Example: SHIFT+NumPad . to Delete, and Fn+SHIFT+Left Arrow for Home.  I never realized I used End and Home so much.
When we narrowed down the fiancee's laptop to a non-numpad model...I knew I wouldn't be playing Civ on it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on July 29, 2011, 09:00:41 AM
Most laptops accept USB keyboards. :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on July 29, 2011, 09:44:46 AM
Looks like that RTS/FPS hybrid Nuclear Dawn is finally coming out this September. http://store.steampowered.com/app/17710/

Looks like NS2 will have some competition.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on July 29, 2011, 01:10:18 PM
Most laptops accept USB keyboards. :oh_i_see:

Yeah but then you have to sit at a table!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on July 31, 2011, 06:15:07 PM
I am sitting at a table but... well I feel like I am giving up a bit more if I take my PC keyboard downstairs.  Also, turns out there are two End keys, one of which I can use just with Shift.  So this is usable.

When you find the Death Ring in Order of Ecclesia, it says there is a chance of instant death on a hit.  This seems awesome until you realize that it means your death.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on August 06, 2011, 05:11:41 AM
Interesting insight about "publisher interference in the design of Titan Quest" (from a former developer of the game):

http://www.rpgwatch.com/#17834


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on August 11, 2011, 12:59:42 PM
So... Disgaea 4 on September 6. This came out of nowhwere for me.  I didn't even know they were making a 4.  Even though I wasn't a big fan of 3 (added a lot of needless shit and had a terrible plot/voice acting), this may be the single greatest game trailer ever. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soH8jG_gfGQ)  Looks like a lot of interesting systems in play there, including some sort of world map.

Premium edition comes with a playable Flonne.  Not something I particularly care about.  I'll probably pick up the regular edition.  Disgaea 2 is one of my favorite games and probably the greatest SRPG made.  Hopefully this game isn't a disappointment like 3, I really could use a good SRPG fix.  

edit: crap, premium edition comes with a figurine of the gal in the Prinny outfit.   Decisions, decisions.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 12, 2011, 10:59:58 AM
Take a dump on the face of common sense... I'm sold.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on August 15, 2011, 10:46:09 AM
Has anyone mentioned Euclideon yet?

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/08/10/euclideon_unlimited_detail_bruce_dell_interview

Wow.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Amaron on August 15, 2011, 11:25:50 AM
Has anyone mentioned Euclideon yet?

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/08/10/euclideon_unlimited_detail_bruce_dell_interview

Wow.

That shit is pure investor scam.  It sounds good to non coders but voxel's have been used for decades and all their strengths/flaws are well understood.  Comanche: Maximum Overkill released back in 1992 was a voxel game in fact.    As Notch pointed out this guy isn't doing anything new. 

http://notch.tumblr.com/post/8386977075/its-a-scam


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 15, 2011, 02:24:58 PM
It's voxels in unlimited quantities.  Without hardware restraints, too.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on August 15, 2011, 02:43:31 PM
SPAZ is out on Steam, and it has delicious achievements. I may hold out for a week, but it is hard.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 15, 2011, 02:45:52 PM
If it stays hard for a week, see a doctor.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Amaron on August 15, 2011, 03:00:14 PM
Bastion comes out in 22 hours according to steam. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on August 15, 2011, 03:05:19 PM
Has anyone mentioned Euclideon yet?

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/08/10/euclideon_unlimited_detail_bruce_dell_interview

Wow.
Yes.

http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=19057.0


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on August 15, 2011, 03:13:19 PM
If it stays hard for a week, see a doctor.

Yes, I may have to do a Hard Reset.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx5G0PNCuTU&hd=1




Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on August 15, 2011, 04:30:59 PM
Almost started a new thread for this but I figured there wasn't enough interest to warrant it.  Does anyone know anything about these Gunnars glasses? http://www.gunnars.com/  It seems pretty sketchy to me, and I can't seem to find any actual legit science behind them, but at the same time I do spend a lot of time in front of the monitor, and if they actually to prevent eye fatigue I might actually consider it.  Sadly, I get the feeling its just some kind of "LOOK COOL WHILE YOU GAME!" gimmick.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on August 15, 2011, 05:27:13 PM
I have no idea about the glasses but the site is horrible. Marketing like that could make aspirin seem like snake oil.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Segoris on August 15, 2011, 05:52:16 PM
Bastion coming tomorrow and looks like fun as it's giving me a Chrono Trigger vibe. E.D.G.E looks like I'd lose hours upon hours before realizing it. Lastly, From Dust looks great until you see it's under Ubi's DRM policy - way to ruin a good thing Ubi.

If anyone has any news or plays those games soon post some feed back please, as those are the next three upcoming games I'm looking at for somewhat cheap fun.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on August 16, 2011, 07:57:22 AM
Lollipop Chainsaw probably doesn't need its own thread:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0QYPpC_Na4


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 17, 2011, 05:32:53 PM
Rasix was not happy with Disgaea 3, but if anyone else liked it or wants to try it, the disc is $19.99 (http://store.nisamerica.com/Disgaea-3-Absence-of-Justice-For-PS3) in the NISA Store and the DLC is half-off on PSN until Sept 6.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on August 17, 2011, 06:15:09 PM
schild disliked it as well.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on August 17, 2011, 09:50:48 PM
I liked it but got rid of it at some point, without having touched the DLC. Is any of it worth getting? I've been looking for something to scratch that itch until D4 comes out.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 22, 2011, 07:14:34 PM
Batman: Arkham City, what's up with this preorder nonsense?  I was going to let "Arkham City" slide, even though that's a dumb name unless there was some sort of Lovecraft tie-in.  But when people in Oz get better trinkets than I do, something is wrong.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on August 31, 2011, 04:42:37 AM
David Jaffe's keynote from PAX (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i060D2MzjSU).  I've always found Jaffe to be pretty entertaining, and he never seems to have a problem saying what's on his mind.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bunk on September 01, 2011, 10:39:42 AM
Operation Skywatch

Anyone have any idea what it is? I jumped in to a line at 2k's booth at PAX thinking it was regarding Borderlands, only to grilled about my Communist ties, given an ESP test, and being awarded a badge as Citizen 86, Engineer 2nd Class.

No idea what any of it means, but apparently I need to watch the skies...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on September 01, 2011, 11:29:37 AM
Probably more XCOMsploitation.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: murdoc on September 01, 2011, 03:47:03 PM
Operation Skywatch

Anyone have any idea what it is? I jumped in to a line at 2k's booth at PAX thinking it was regarding Borderlands, only to grilled about my Communist ties, given an ESP test, and being awarded a badge as Citizen 86, Engineer 2nd Class.

No idea what any of it means, but apparently I need to watch the skies...

XCOM


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on September 01, 2011, 04:17:56 PM
Ahh, interesting:

http://kotaku.com/5816507/la-noires-studio-under-investigation-over-alleged-shonky-work-practices

Well, nothing that new, I guess: hmm, didn't some EA studio have the same problems 7 or 8 years ago, with employees and their families talking about long hours and impossible crunch times?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 01, 2011, 04:26:31 PM
http://ea-spouse.livejournal.com/274.html


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on September 01, 2011, 04:29:56 PM
http://ea-spouse.livejournal.com/274.html


Ahh, right, the infamous "EA Spouse", thanks Trippy :). Btw, interesting stories about crunch times in the comments section at this link:

http://www.develop-online.net/news/38125/Industry-outrage-at-brutal-Team-Bondi-crunch


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on September 01, 2011, 05:41:43 PM
In cleaning the house for our move, I found about $58 in change laying around.  Took it up to Coinstar and dumped it onto a fee-free Amazon gift card.  Dark Souls is almost paid for, woot!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bunk on September 02, 2011, 03:33:27 PM
While at PAX I was looking around for potential new games for my eeePad, and I stumble across this: http://feeleveryyummy.com/ (http://feeleveryyummy.com/)

Game's called Word Fighter, and essentially its Street Fighter meets Boggle. The developer just came up as I'm looking at it, grabbed another guy out of the crowd, and started the game up. I am proud to say that my Jane Austin soundly stomped all over his Edgar Alan Poe.

Cool thing is that they are aiming at both iPad and Android, and apparently you will be able to play cross platform. If you love Boggle type games as much as I do, totally worth watching for.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on September 10, 2011, 10:10:48 AM
Favorite line from Kinectimals: Don't make me get the hose.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on September 10, 2011, 02:38:58 PM
I forgot to mention that I noticed a Castle Crashers update on XBL.  Now it has DLC.  I got the free Pink Knight.  There is also a purple Necro Knight for about 800 points.  Plus weapon packs I think.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on September 11, 2011, 06:13:26 PM
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gearbox-software-hawp/720425  - 1 minute long, worth watching.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on September 12, 2011, 03:05:46 AM
I agree with the sentiment expressed in that video.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tgr on September 12, 2011, 03:51:17 AM
I can think of a few managers of game companies who deserve that.

Some of them, multiple times.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on September 17, 2011, 04:44:51 PM
Sadly, I don't have the time to put together a full thread for Holiday releases this time around, but this is what the Console/PC release schedule looks like so far:


Sept. 20th

Gears of War 3 - 360
F1: 2011 - PS3, 360, PC


Sept. 27th

The Ico & Shadow of the Colossus Collection - PS3
X-Men: Destiny - 360, PS3
NHL 12 - PS3, 360
FIFA Soccer 12 - PS3
Atelier Totori: The Adventurer of Arland - PS3
Pro Evolution Soccer 2012 - PS3, 360
Rune Factory: Tides of Destiny - PS3, Wii
Splinter Cell Classic Trilogy HD - PS3
A Game of Thrones: Genesis - PC


Oct. 4th

Rage - PS3, 360, PC
Dark Souls - 360, PS3
Spider-Man: Edge of Time - 360, PS3, Wii
NBA 2K12 - 360, PS3, Wii, PC


Oct. 11th

Forza Motorsport 4 - 360
Ace Combat: Assault Horizon - PS3, 360
Wipeout 2 - PS3, 360, Wii
Might and Magic Heroes VI - PC
The Cursed Crusade - PS3, 360
Dead Rising 2: Off the Record - PS3, 360, PC


Oct. 18th

Batman: Arkham City - PS3, 360, PC
Ratchet & Clank: All 4 One - PS3
Stronghold 3 - PC
The Sims 3: Pets - PC
Serious Sam 3: BFE - PC


Oct. 25th

Kirby's Return to Dream Land - Wii
Battlefield 3 - PS3, 360, PC
Silent Hill: Downpour - 360, PS3
The King of Fighters XIII - 360, PS3


Nov. 1st

Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception - PS3
Lord of the Rings: War in the North - 360, PS3, PC
Sonic Generations - 360, PS3
Lego Harry Potter: Years 5-7 - PS3, 360, Wii
Goldeneye 007: Reloaded - 360, PS3


Nov. 8th

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - PS3, 360, PC
Metal Gear Solid HD Collection - PS3


Nov. 11th

Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary - 360
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - PS3, 360, PC


Nov. 15th

Saints Row: The Third - 360, PS3, PC
Need for Speed: The Run - 360, PS3, PC
Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom - 360, PS3
Assassin's Creed Revelations - PS3, 360, PC


Nov. 20th

The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword - Wii


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on September 17, 2011, 05:26:10 PM
Also, just to add a bit of commentary here, part of the reason I probably didn't bother with a thread this year, is because aside from a handful of releases, there's nothing I'm too excited about.  Dark Souls, Rage, Arkham City, and SWTOR if it releases this year are probably the only games I'll pick up.  Other comments:


- I'm shocked X-Men Destiny is releasing so soon.  They've barely shown this game off at all, and what they've have shown looks like some of the roughest and dullest looking gameplay I've seen in a while.  I liked Too Human, but even I can't get behind Silicon Knights on this one.

- Rage and Dark Souls on the same day?  Looks like I'm getting Dark Souls at launch and waiting on Rage for awhile then.

- Assassin's Creed really needs to give the franchise a rest for a year.

- Gears of War 2 bored the hell out of me.  No interest in 3.  Still haven't played Uncharted 2, so won't bother with Uncharted 3 yet either.

- I don't have a lot of interest in FPS games.  If I do end up buying one due to social pressure though, it would likely be Battlefield 3 over MW3.

- HD collections of games from last gen are the next big thing apparently.  In addition to those listed here, there is also a Silent Hill HD collection coming up at some point containing 2 and 3 (also known as the last time most people gave a shit about the franchise), which will likely be a better purchase than Silent Hill: Downpour.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 17, 2011, 08:28:41 PM
I like this HD Collection movement, if only because it's a good time to get those games in 720p before consoles rotate.

As for releases, Dark Souls for me and I'll play Skyrim and Rune Factory with the girl. The rest of the list will get picked up... eventually. Winter/Spring is a pretty big season for Magic, so I've got to keep my priorities in order.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on September 17, 2011, 09:29:07 PM
Will probably pick up these on release:

Gears of War 3 - 360
Rage - PC
Forza Motorsport 4 - 360
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - PC
Saints Row: The Third - PC

The rest are bargain/used purchases (F1 2011, New Assassin's Creed game, new Ace Combat, Batman, Kirby, Dark Souls, Uncharted 3) or things I'm not interested in.  I'd like to be interested in BF3, but I'm not going to bother with the inevitably gimped console releases, and PC titles that don't release on Steam weren't released on PC imo.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on September 17, 2011, 09:41:31 PM
Wow, my list is exactly like Schild's.  The only differences are that I'm waiting to see how RF reviews and I'll buy the new Zelda to play with my daughter.  Oh, and if D3 launches, which I'm "guessing" will be on your list too.  I already have ICO/SotC ordered. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tgr on September 18, 2011, 04:18:51 AM
Strongly anticipating:
Stronghold 3
Serious Sam 3: BFE
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Saints Row: The Third

Wish this would've been made/published by someone else:
Need for Speed: The Run

In fact, I'm positively drooling for a mix between games like the elder scrolls, test drive, gta and lfs. If the physics had been good enough, I'd probably be more than happy to spend all day just driving around.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: caladein on September 18, 2011, 07:59:20 AM
Aside from having already pre-ordered Might & Magic: Clash of Heroes' PC release and SWTOR, the only things I'm looking forward to for the remainder of the year are maybe getting roped into picking up BF3 and Skyrim not setting off my usual, Bethesda-related, hives.

The former I intend to resist vigorously because I hate jets and the latter is just really unlikely.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on September 18, 2011, 08:08:17 AM
I'm really just hoping DIablo 3 makes it out before the end of the year.  Optimistic, I know.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on September 18, 2011, 11:00:07 AM
Gears 3, Dark Souls, and Skyrim are the three I'm buying. I'll probably check out Rage when it goes on sale; it looks good but there's just too much competition for my gaming time. I might end up buying Assassin's Creed as well, since I have a buddy who's really into that series and we usually play them at release.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tgr on September 18, 2011, 12:03:52 PM
Oh, I missed Rage. Totally Carmack-fanboying over that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: kildorn on September 18, 2011, 01:18:40 PM
Sword of the Stars 2 is slated for October in theory, but they've been dead silent on marketing for it.

But maybe I'm the only person who liked Sword of the Stars anyways.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on September 19, 2011, 02:41:24 PM
Things I know I want but will only get if the money's right in order of preference:

FIFA 12 (already pre-ordered)
BF3 (if I can afford a new computer to play it before the year's end)
Dark Souls
Forza 4


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Murgos on September 19, 2011, 03:48:32 PM
Sword of the Stars 2 is slated for October in theory, but they've been dead silent on marketing for it.

But maybe I'm the only person who liked Sword of the Stars anyways.

Nah, I've played the shit out of it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on September 19, 2011, 05:50:41 PM
I almost never pre-order stuff or buy on release anymore, but I've got Space Marine SE on the way, and am pre-ordering Battlefield 3 and Saints Row The Third.


Will probably be picking up Splinter Cell Trilogy and God of War Collection 2: The PSP years shortly.
Other than that I tend to pick anything else of interest up from the bargain bin within a year or two of release.

I'm interested in Gears 3, but that may be partly being sold over from all the hype. Horde 2.0 looks interesting. Still, won't pick it up till I've played through the first two. Rage has potential, but I'll wait and see - if it has campaign co-op I'll get it early, otherwise it's just another FPS that I can pick up eventually.

Oh, and getting a copy of FIFA and some Kinect shit for work, so I'll borrow them and check them out.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on September 20, 2011, 08:15:57 AM
I want to get a lot of things, Gears of War 3 and Skyrim mostly, but LoL is eating my soul. On top of that I have a backlog longer than the Amazon river, all games that I really want to play (the latest being the incredibly good looking and sounding Whispered World).

I think I'll just buy Skyrim for the SO and be done with this year.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on September 20, 2011, 08:48:55 AM
Gears 3 ad using Mazzy Star's "Into Dust" almost sold me on the game. Great use of emotive music.

Still, I need to get through the first two first.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kageru on September 20, 2011, 08:51:41 AM
Is there some reason to be excited about Rage? I sort of lost interest in ID when it became pretty obvious the games were just tech demos. And the selling pitch of "groundbreaking" when the features pretty much look like every like any other shooter (OMG vehicles!) released since Halo does not convince. And combining ID with Bethesda the home of half thought out game mechanics doesn't make it any more tempting.

Pretty though. Going to need a video card upgrade before I buy that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tgr on September 20, 2011, 10:58:25 AM
I'm thinking that id is beyond the "just a tech demo" phase now, with a 5 year development cycle on rage, and it looks to be a fair bit deeper than any of id's previous releases (not that that's saying too much).

As for groundbreaking, I like to think of the virtualization of textures as a groundbreaking feature, but as I've said earlier, we're now looking at incremental improvements to graphics rather than revolutionary improvements, so the effect on the gamer is going to be less than it is f.ex for the graphics artists who no longer need to give a flying fuck about texture budgets. Additionally, they've gone for 60fps instead of 30fps because it feels better rather than looks better.

Personally, I'm probably going to get it just because it's id and I'm a complete Carmack fanboi. The only thing that'll stop me is if they put DRM on it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on September 20, 2011, 02:53:49 PM
Is there some reason to be excited about Rage? I sort of lost interest in ID when it became pretty obvious the games were just tech demos. And the selling pitch of "groundbreaking" when the features pretty much look like every like any other shooter (OMG vehicles!) released since Halo does not convince. And combining ID with Bethesda the home of half thought out game mechanics doesn't make it any more tempting.

Pretty though. Going to need a video card upgrade before I buy that.


I'm waiting to see how the car combat turns out, since that's the only kind of vs. multiplayer mode that they're going to have.  I haven't really seen a lot of gameplay footage of it yet though, and xp systems where the people who have been playing the most have an added advantage in that they get better gear always kinda bug me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on September 20, 2011, 05:31:25 PM
Also, Arkham City will probably end up being a GOTY edition purchase for me since I'm not in a huge hurry to get the game.  All the retailer specific stuff (Robin challenge maps, Batman skins) sounds like it's going to be offered up as DLC later, plus there's apparently Catwoman DLC announced as well.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on September 21, 2011, 04:47:09 AM
Exact same reason I haven't bought Dead Space 2 or Assassins Creed Bro-hood yet. Well, the Da Vinci edition has it all, but it's a pita to track down atm.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: RhyssaFireheart on September 21, 2011, 10:20:48 AM
No way to verify, and tbh I don't even really know the game being discussed, I just recognize the name from reading this thread.

Quote from: Achilles001
I just read on GAF that people in Japan who got Dark Souls early are having their games invaded by ridiculously overpowered characters from the dev team as punishment. I cannot believe the amount win associated with this game.

From the anime board over on IGN, FYI.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: stu on September 21, 2011, 10:53:54 AM
I was gonna pick up Dead Space 2 now that it's ~$30 but I still have to pre-order Dark Souls. I'm worried that it'll get in the way of work.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on September 21, 2011, 01:09:04 PM
No way to verify, and tbh I don't even really know the game being discussed, I just recognize the name from reading this thread.

Quote from: Achilles001
I just read on GAF that people in Japan who got Dark Souls early are having their games invaded by ridiculously overpowered characters from the dev team as punishment. I cannot believe the amount win associated with this game.

From the anime board over on IGN, FYI.

More information (http://www.incgamers.com/News/29047/from-software-is-killing-early-dark-souls-players).

Seems kind of silly, but oh well.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on September 23, 2011, 11:16:45 AM
Short article on one of my favorite games.
http://www.gameranx.com/features/id/2724/article/super-metroid-how-to-tell-a-great-story-without-words/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on September 25, 2011, 11:21:44 AM
Have they talked about what Rage's co-op mode will entail? Like, a full, proper campaign, or the usual "horde-mode" bolted on?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on September 25, 2011, 07:42:21 PM
Have they talked about what Rage's co-op mode will entail? Like, a full, proper campaign, or the usual "horde-mode" bolted on?

Co-op missions which are separate from the campaign.  At one point they said the missions were unlocked as you played through campaign, but I'm not sure if that's still true.  Seem kinda pointless to cockblock people from playing co-op right out of the box.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on September 26, 2011, 03:34:10 AM
meh. I found a local pre-order that's only $5 more than ordering it from the UK and waiting 2-4 weeks. Was considering getting a couple of copies, but if they're doing bullshit co-op I'll fish it out of the bargain bin later on.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tgr on September 26, 2011, 04:03:55 AM
I'm working on the premise that id aren't completely sucking dick yet, and just sent in my first prepurchase in recent memory. Rage had better not suck, now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on September 26, 2011, 04:33:53 AM
I'm barely excited by first person shooter anymore. There's just so much glut in it that I can't get excited about Rage at all.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on September 26, 2011, 06:50:47 AM
I just moved back to Europe a couple of months ago, and took all my consoles with me.  Have power transformers for both consoles and TVs, so I had everything planned out nicely.  So the other day I turn on my 360 for the first time since the move, and guess what?  Red.  Ring.  Of.  Death.  Son of a biatch.  I suppose it's possible that it didn't like the power coming from the transformer or something odd, but it's probably just a shitty coincidence.

So I went out and had to buy a PAL edition 360.  Happily, 2/3rds of my 360 games were not region coded, so that's cool.  It's also one of the newer 250gb models (I had the old 40g), so that, too, is cool.  What is definitely NOT cool is this fucking Xbox Live & Windows Live bullshit.  As I have never created a Windows Live ID, it appears to be completely impossible to recover my ID.  So, all gamer scores gamer tag and DLC are done and gone.  Didn't have a lot of DLC, but I have spent a bit of money on Rockband songs, and it pisses me off that I may not be able to access it again.  Creating a Windows ID with the same Xbox live info after the fact seems to achieve nothing at all.

Anyone have a clue how I might address this?  Is it possible to transfer everything over from the old harddrive somehow?  Never tried that before, so I don't know how it works.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on September 26, 2011, 09:47:24 AM
Yes it is, you have to buy an Xbox 360 Transfer Cable (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/Live/Transfer) which run about $20.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: caladein on September 26, 2011, 10:00:50 AM
Yes, just don't do anything on the new console's hard drive beforehand as the copying process will erase it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Amaron on September 26, 2011, 10:13:14 PM
Apparently some people in Korea are finally waking up and looking at cash shop gambling:

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/36908/Koreas_Game_Rating_Board_Publishers_Clash_Over_Jackpot_Items.php

I thought about putting this in MMO but it's probably not worth a whole thread at this point.   I've often wondered how long this would avoid notice.  The whole trend seems pretty ripe for "protect the children".   Vegas moguls would probably go to heaven if they could do what these companies get away with.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on September 26, 2011, 10:29:06 PM
http://www.irontowerstudio.com/forum/index.php/topic,2268.0.html

Quote
It has become apparent that a lot of people want Dead State and they want it now. So far we’ve been able to accomplish a lot with our small team, but in order to get the game done in a more timely fashion, it’s apparent that we’re going to have to at least start considering some new additions to help us get Dead State to the marketplace.

So, here’s the pitch – are you a modder looking to work on an original title? Are you new to the game industry and looking to get professional credit on your resume? Are you an experienced game developer looking to work on a zombie RPG in your spare time because you’ve always wanted to play one? We are looking for folks like you.

Now, a few things about the project. We have very little funding – work on the project ranges from contribution for credit in the game to payment after the project comes out (for the long-term members of the team). This is not likely to change, so this is NOT a full-time job with a salary, though if the game does well enough (and we like your work) it could lead to paid work on future projects.

We’re not expecting full-time hours – attitude, efficiency, and reliability are key. We’re looking for team members that can complete tasks they’ve agreed to take on within a reasonable amount of time and communicate their progress to the leads. Professional discretion about your work is expected. Working well with the team is a must.   

For programmers:
We are primarily looking for someone with game programming/scripting background. Knowledge of Torque 3D and TorqueScript is highly preferable. You will be working with the Lead Programmer and Project Lead on most of your tasks.

Tools Programmer - Developing tools to make implementation of content easier. GUI work a big plus.

Examples of tool duties:
-Script Editor
-Journal Editor
-Loot Container tool
-Art implementation and lighting tools

Scripting Programmer - The scripting programmer uses the engine's scripting language to create scripts for dialogue (a lot of these), for events/event triggers, time passage, tracking stats, and bark text.

Examples of Scripting:
-Global dialogue flags
-Combat triggers
-Quest update triggers
-Scene triggers
-XP/item rewards

Art:
We do not have any actual art positions right now. If you are an outstanding modeler or texture artist that would like to contribute items to the game for fun and credit, we may make an exception. Note that we already have most common props and textures done already, so you may want to talk to our lead artist about what we are lacking currently.

Design:
We are not looking for additional designers or writers right now.

Sound/Music:
We are not looking for sound/music people at this time. We will update this page if this changes.

If you’re interested in working with us or contributing, please send your qualifications, links to your work, an introduction, and any questions you may have to:

info@DoubleBearProductions.com

We will try get back to you as soon as possible. If you know people who might be a good fit, please send them a link to this thread.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on September 27, 2011, 03:43:55 AM
I just moved back to Europe a couple of months ago, and took all my consoles with me.  Have power transformers for both consoles and TVs, so I had everything planned out nicely.  So the other day I turn on my 360 for the first time since the move, and guess what?  Red.  Ring.  Of.  Death.  Son of a biatch.  I suppose it's possible that it didn't like the power coming from the transformer or something odd, but it's probably just a shitty coincidence.

So I went out and had to buy a PAL edition 360.  Happily, 2/3rds of my 360 games were not region coded, so that's cool.  It's also one of the newer 250gb models (I had the old 40g), so that, too, is cool.  What is definitely NOT cool is this fucking Xbox Live & Windows Live bullshit.  As I have never created a Windows Live ID, it appears to be completely impossible to recover my ID.  So, all gamer scores gamer tag and DLC are done and gone.  Didn't have a lot of DLC, but I have spent a bit of money on Rockband songs, and it pisses me off that I may not be able to access it again.  Creating a Windows ID with the same Xbox live info after the fact seems to achieve nothing at all.

Anyone have a clue how I might address this?  Is it possible to transfer everything over from the old harddrive somehow?  Never tried that before, so I don't know how it works.

Also, telephone Microsoft's phone support. I've found them quite helpful in several instances in the past. If the 1st Tier guys can't hep you (and they probably can't for this), just keep asking for the next tier people. Ask for their names, and remain polite, clear and businesslike at all times.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on September 27, 2011, 05:40:22 AM
Thanks for all the advice.  I found out on my own to get a transfer cable (managed to get one delivered from the UK for about 6 dollars)...hopefully that will work.  I really wanted the data on the harddrive anyway, so assuming it seemlessly transfers my gamer tag over, then that's probably a better solution than an ordinary recovery anyway.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Azazel on September 27, 2011, 07:00:12 AM
Sure, it should work (I've transferred my crap 3 times now). Transferring it to a new 360 will probably involve a windows ID and so forth as well to transfer the licences from your old machine to the new one, so you'll probably have to create one.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on September 28, 2011, 02:05:58 AM
Well, I kind of already did create one, bit it didn't seem to link with my xbox live ID like it should have.  That's the part that worries me about this process.  I guess I'll see what happens once the cable arrives.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on September 30, 2011, 12:08:09 AM
Not 'useless' to me, but interesing...  I adore Nier, rough edges and all.  Sorry about the source...

Quote
A sequel to Nier is the obvious assumption, but it really could be anything. All Saito said was that there could be an amazing announcement soon, and then he tagged his tweet with the hashtag #Nier.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/09/29/new-nier-news-nearby.aspx

Nier


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on September 30, 2011, 10:47:53 AM
Stopped into Target for some groceries, and they had Dark Souls in the cases already...  I would have tried to buy it if I hadn't purchases from Amazon already.  Tough choice though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on October 05, 2011, 08:48:32 AM
I like this PS3 Ad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdWkKKSckNk&feature=youtu.be)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kageru on October 06, 2011, 09:27:56 PM

"Maybe no one in the real world respects you... but you are like a god to some imaginary characters and a computer program."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 07, 2011, 10:53:11 AM
"Maybe no one in the real world respects you... but you are like a god to some imaginary characters and a computer program."

Couldn't just enjoy the hell out of a well-made ad, could you?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on October 07, 2011, 10:59:17 AM
Yah, that was pretty rad.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 07, 2011, 01:03:39 PM
Brought a tear.  Now for more Dark Souls.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 10, 2011, 01:00:38 PM
I don't know how I only now saw that Arx Fatalis has gotten a fat update on Steam.  Win7 compatibility and source code release?  Awesome.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 14, 2011, 05:40:41 AM
Skyrim causes ripples.  My gamer friend has been playing Shivering Isles while anticipating (until I got him to buy Dark Souls) and this led to my wife getting the itch to play Oblivion.  We both have hundreds of hours of saves on the 360, and I have lots of time on the PC version.  She had also bought Morrowind GOTY for Xbox some time ago but never played it, so we started up a new game.  Long story short, I had a nostalgia attack and she decided she couldn't play it due to combat.

Morrowind seems to have crossed her complexity threshold.  My assertion was "Morrowind isn't for girls".  She didn't change her mind, but I'll keep at it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on October 14, 2011, 01:17:46 PM
How is Morrowind more complex than Oblivion?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on October 14, 2011, 01:20:00 PM
How is Morrowind more complex than Oblivion?

More skills, and more finicky combat (which might not be more "complex" per se, but it certainly is not as intuitive to learn from what I remember). I haven't played Morrowind in quite a while though, so I'm having a little trouble remembering some of the finer points.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 14, 2011, 01:29:20 PM
How is Morrowind more complex than Oblivion?
Well, you see it's due to.....GET THESE DAMN CLIFF RACERS OFF ME


 :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 14, 2011, 04:29:47 PM
There are a few more stats to worry about.  Also the combat, if you don't turn on "Always use best attack"... which I did point out to her but she still wasn't able to hit shit.

There are also more spell effects in Morrowind, including Levitate.  I don't have specific proof that the spell/enchantment system allows more options, but I feel like it did.

Scrolls of Icarian Flight
Boots of Blinding Speed


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on October 17, 2011, 04:32:58 AM
I may have to pre-order Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 from Best Buy, just for this character skin for MODOK (people who read Nextwave should recognize it):

(http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac211/Velorath/u0123.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 17, 2011, 08:44:19 AM
Awesome pic thread thataway -->


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 22, 2011, 12:10:28 AM
I just had to drop in and mention that, for the first time after a Windows reinstall, I was able to reinstall Steam over the old directory and it picked up on all of my games without me having to wave any chicken feet.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: CaptainNapkin on October 22, 2011, 12:31:43 AM
I've always had decent luck backing up the Steam dir, doing my refresh, then install Steam clean, then copy the backed up dir into the install. When I then fire up Steam it just patches up any wonky/ missing files. So far this method has worked well each time for me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 24, 2011, 01:11:51 PM
Gabe talks a bit about pricing models and f2p. Confirms we're lab rats in a totally awesome experiment.

http://www.geekwire.com/2011/experiments-video-game-economics-valves-gabe-newell


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on October 24, 2011, 01:52:58 PM
The pricing experiments they've done have more often than not been very beneficial to the consumer. It's awesome to think that by being good to the customer, their revenue increases by not just a little bit, but a fuckload.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 24, 2011, 02:31:19 PM
Yeah, I like that part, too. It's nice to see someone who gets the concept of win/win capitalism, seems like such a quaint idea in modern times.

Also, I have a shitload of games on steam I'll probably never play and wouldn't have bought if they weren't on some amazing sale. So...utter genius imo.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Murgos on October 24, 2011, 05:30:39 PM
Gabe talks a bit about pricing models and f2p. Confirms we're lab rats in a totally awesome experiment.

http://www.geekwire.com/2011/experiments-video-game-economics-valves-gabe-newell

Quote
The company’s Steam distribution system, with more than 35 million users, is sometimes called the iTunes store of video games.

Really?  Because I call the iTunes store of video games the App store.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on October 24, 2011, 05:37:45 PM
Gabe talks a bit about pricing models and f2p. Confirms we're lab rats in a totally awesome experiment.

http://www.geekwire.com/2011/experiments-video-game-economics-valves-gabe-newell

Quote
The company’s Steam distribution system, with more than 35 million users, is sometimes called the iTunes store of video games.

Really?  Because I call the iTunes store of video games the App store.

This is the tech article equivalent of  "some people are saying"  in other words "just now, I said"


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Minvaren on November 02, 2011, 08:47:31 PM
...am I the only one looking forward to AC : Revelations?

Due out in 2 weeks for consoles, 2 more for PCs.   :uhrr:  Might have to actually buy a game at release for a change...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on November 03, 2011, 12:22:33 AM
I'm psyched for it, it's just hitting at a really bad time.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on November 03, 2011, 04:14:46 PM
I would like to play it, but first I have to complete the others in the series.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ghost on November 10, 2011, 11:04:36 AM
Well, apparently Zynga is holding some of its employees over the fire (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204621904577018373223480802.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories) for previously given out stock options. 

Quote
Early last year, as Mr. Pincus began preparing to take Zynga public, he and several other executives decided the company had doled out too many stock rights to certain people in its early days, say people familiar with the matter. The executives chose an unusual solution: They began demanding that certain employees surrender some shares or be fired.

Seems like a bunch of unethical bastards there.  I expect them to get their asses sued off in the very near future.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on December 02, 2011, 04:22:01 AM
Fans of the Marathon series can download updated versions of all three games for free (http://marathon.sourceforge.net/) on PC's, Mac, or Linux.  Hadn't really heard about the Aleph One project until now, but apparently it's been in the works for quire some time, and is an open source upgrade of the Marathon 2 engine.  The 1.0 release was apparently a couple days ago, but I haven't had any time to take a look at it myself.  Used to love the Marathon games though back when I was largely using Macs.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Murgos on December 02, 2011, 07:28:20 AM
Well, apparently Zynga is holding some of its employees over the fire (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204621904577018373223480802.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories) for previously given out stock options. 

Quote
Early last year, as Mr. Pincus began preparing to take Zynga public, he and several other executives decided the company had doled out too many stock rights to certain people in its early days, say people familiar with the matter. The executives chose an unusual solution: They began demanding that certain employees surrender some shares or be fired.

Seems like a bunch of unethical bastards there.  I expect them to get their asses sued off in the very near future.
"Hey guys, come work for me.  We don't have a lot of money right now so I can't pay you a lot, you know start-up amirite?  But, here are some stock options so that if we make it far enough to go public you'll be set."  "Oh, we don't have money for raises this year, you know start-up amirite?  How about some more options?"

Years of underpaid labor later...

"Stock options.  You GIEV preciousss?"

I've been there on start-ups, the options paying off is the whole point.  What dicks.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on December 07, 2011, 02:59:42 PM
Executive Producer on The Last Guardian, Yoshifusa Hayama, has left Sony. (http://www.shacknews.com/article/71429/the-last-guardian-executive-producer-leaves-sony)  There have also been rumors that Ueda has left Sony as well but is continuing to work on the game as a freelancer.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on December 07, 2011, 03:04:16 PM
That would be... absolutely disastrous.

Maybe he went to From. Oh god, please go to From Software.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on December 07, 2011, 03:12:58 PM
http://kotaku.com/the-last-guardian/

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Hayama joins Rupert Murdoch-owned London studio Bossa, where he will work on the outfit's first 3D social game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on December 07, 2011, 03:13:57 PM
SOCIAL GAME?

FUCK YOU UEDA. FUCK YOU.


Oh, that's Hayama. Whatever.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on December 07, 2011, 04:58:28 PM
Executive Producer on The Last Guardian, Yoshifusa Hayama, has left Sony. (http://www.shacknews.com/article/71429/the-last-guardian-executive-producer-leaves-sony)  There have also been rumors that Ueda has left Sony as well but is continuing to work on the game as a freelancer.

That game is never coming out.   :heartbreak:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on December 12, 2011, 08:26:55 AM
Oh the Humanity: The Red Cross is investigating whether video games violate war crimes conventions. (http://www.news.com.au/technology/gaming/six-hundred-million-gamers-could-be-war-criminals-red-cross-says/story-e6frfrt9-1226216184190?sv=3c6cc1285b27b79b6399320cf959eafb)

 :uhrr:

Link to bulletin (http://www.rcrcconference.org/docs_upl/en/Daily_Bulletin_3_EN.pdf)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on December 12, 2011, 08:29:06 AM
Oh the Humanity: The Red Cross is investigating whether video games violate war crimes conventions. (http://www.news.com.au/technology/gaming/six-hundred-million-gamers-could-be-war-criminals-red-cross-says/story-e6frfrt9-1226216184190?sv=3c6cc1285b27b79b6399320cf959eafb)

 :uhrr:

Link to bulletin (http://www.rcrcconference.org/docs_upl/en/Daily_Bulletin_3_EN.pdf)

They(Red Cross) already came out and said that this report was false.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on December 28, 2011, 01:08:06 PM
Quote
   

Dear Club Nintendo Member,

Thank you again for being an Elite Status Club Nintendo member this past year.

As you may have noticed, we misspelled one of the months on the Year-view Calendar insert, included alongside your 2012 Club Nintendo Calendar Elite Status gift. (It's the month between October and December.)

We're really embarrassed and apologize for this oversight; we always want our rewards and gifts to be special. We would like to offer you a replacement Year-view Calendar insert. In the interest of saving paper, we thought it better to ask if you want a replacement before automatically sending.

Please confirm by January 9th if you would like a replacement and we'll happily send you a new Year-view Calendar insert.

Thanks again for being a member of Club Nintendo.

We appreciate your continued feedback and loyalty.

Happy New Year!

Club Nintendo

I prefer the month of Nobember, actually.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 03, 2012, 08:19:10 AM
Ebay will prefer the month of Nobember 10 years from now also.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 22, 2012, 09:51:09 PM
This is a game.  So I can put it here.
http://land.allears.net/blogs/dnews/2012/02/sorcerers_of_the_magic_kingdom.html

We will be in WDW Mar 2-9 and we will definitely be trying to get in on this.  Looks like an improved Kim Possible, if anyone did that in World Showcase.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on February 29, 2012, 12:52:13 PM
So http://www.baldursgate.com/ went up late last year and had nothing on it.

And it now has something: the Baldur's Gate logo, looping Baldur's Gate title screen music, the opening quote from the intro, and a background of the character portraits. The page's source code also has some interesting stuff in it:

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Shadowy Figure- Raise Dead : Infinity Engine

For years, I clung to the memory of it. Then the memory of the memory.

And then... it returned. Better than it was before.

Pore over the tapestries and works of art hanging from our walls if you wish, Child of Bhaal... perhaps you will find a clue. But patience, ah... patience would reveal it all.

As the silver moon waxes and wanes, so too does life.

Apparently the page is registered to this fellow (https://twitter.com/#!/TrentOster) who was with Bioware and worked on the first BG, and he's been fueling speculation with some of his latest tweets.

So now I'm quite curious to see what's going to come of this.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on February 29, 2012, 01:26:26 PM
I am curious, too, given it seems like there's basically no chance this dude has an actual license from EA/Bioware or WotC. They've been totally tolerant of mods in the past, but now we're talking about a website that actually is the trademark name, uses the music, art, etc.

So, either it is more levels of misdirection than would normally happen for something EA is actually doing themselves, or this dude is going to get hit with a nice fat C&D.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on February 29, 2012, 01:30:30 PM
The Baldur's Gate license lies wholly with WOTC, I believe. And if not WOTC, then it lies with Atari. I highly doubt EA will have any say in the matter.

From what I've been seeing, smart money is on this being an iOS port of BG1.

Edit: According to some copyright pages, apparently the Infinity Engine itself along with the Bioware logo are EA copyrights, but pretty much everything else was Interplay, which then went to Atari, which I assume is now in WOTC's hands since they got the license back.

If I put on my Optimist Hat, I see the "Raise Dead: Infinity Engine" line as meaning that something's been worked out on that front. But we'll see.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on February 29, 2012, 01:37:00 PM
Apparently the company this guy works for did the HD port of MDK2, so they could be doing some kind of anniversary edition HD thing.

EDIT: I can't imagine how the hell you would control 6 dudes on iOS, but I guess it could be something like that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on February 29, 2012, 01:39:26 PM
Yeah, I just read that as well. I wouldn't say no to a high-quality HD Baldur's Gate, especially if it has actually properly working multiplayer.

I'd rather see BG2 get the treatment, but I'll happily accept the first too.

EDIT: I can't imagine how the hell you would control 6 dudes on iOS, but I guess it could be something like that.

After watching my girlfriend try to play BG1 on her tablet, the answer is: not well. But according to a guy who worked at Beamdog when they got the BG license and source code from Atari and Hasbro, it seems to work better when some adjustments are made.

Edit:

Here, have a teaser trailer!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpPU-MtBqrA


Oops, apparently it's a fake! Now this entire project's legitimacy has been cast into doubt.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on March 04, 2012, 02:17:56 PM
mariO (SMB with a Portal Gun) is now available. (http://stabyourself.net/mari0/)  Download it before it inevitably gets shut down by Nintendo and/or Valve.


Edit: Gameplay video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtcGiZelPfk)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MuffinMan on March 07, 2012, 01:05:52 AM
New SimCity (5?) Announcement Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T70evBJE93s&context=C35ba4ccADOEgsToPDskKKnfXuXLQuKCGqXkIhtItT)

Not really close or substantial enough for its own thread yet so I'll put this here. Trying not to get too excited here since I'm sure it will be dumbed down and Origin-exclusive but SimCity was the first PC game I really got into when it first came out. I still install 4 every six months or so and can easily blow through eight hours without knowing it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tgr on March 07, 2012, 01:54:53 AM
I'm getting vibes of this being a mix of Sim City Societies and CitiesXL. Add Origin, and all I can do is sigh.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yoru on March 07, 2012, 02:03:25 AM
Funny. Just last night, I was talking to a friend of mine about not playing ME3 due to it only being on Origin. I said that the only thing that could possibly get me to buy in to Origin was a good, faithful remake of SimCity, preferably around the SC2K level of complexity.

Well played, EA. Well played.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 07, 2012, 09:15:33 AM
That looks snazzy. I hope single player will allow you to do multiple cities/regions/whatever. Fuckamultiplayer.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 07, 2012, 09:19:04 AM
Funny. Just last night, I was talking to a friend of mine about not playing ME3 due to it only being on Origin. I said that the only thing that could possibly get me to buy in to Origin was a good, faithful remake of SimCity, preferably around the SC2K level of complexity.

Well played, EA. Well played.
Funny because just last night I said I'll never play this because of Origin.

There is nothing that will make me install that shit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on March 07, 2012, 02:20:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih2BoI0BH_Q

 :drill:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on March 07, 2012, 03:26:04 PM
Out of sheer amusement and to hopefully make Schild's eye twitch a bit:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=465809

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The original news was that Monster Hunter Portable 3 was listed on Play.com. The subsequent carnival of stupid began when a photoshopped image from 4chan emerged, purporting to show listings for GTA: Vice City Nights, Final Fantasy Type-0 HD, and Tales of Innocence R:


While a quick search of Play.com would quickly reveal that none of these other listings actually existed, somehow Eurogamer seized upon the image. Without any fact checking whatsoever, it quickly became front page news:


Joystiq saw it posted on Eurogamer and, again without any fact checking whatsoever, posted it as confirmed news as well:


In no time at all, the stupidity had gone mainstream:

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Terrible, just terrible. Gaming jornalism is such a joke.

http://uk.vita.ign.com/articles/122/1220198p1.html
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/03/07/pl...ghts-more-for/
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...ce-city-nights
http://www.gamespot.com/news/grand-t...report-6364921
http://kotaku.com/5891238/new-grand-...headed-to-vita

All based on one photoshopped image

Since then, Jason Schreier from Kotaku has come in demanding proof that it was a shop and it's just become absolutely hilarious. And sad. But overall just business as usual.

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Even worse is that everyone refers to Eurogamer as the source and they have fantastic words such as these:

"The listing has since been yanked, but Eurogamer was able to capture a screenshot of the page. It suggests the game will carry a €39.99 (about $50) price point." -Gamespot

"Eurogamer was alerted to this by reader el_pollo_diablo, who sent us the image displayed in this story." -Eurogamer

"Sony is hosting the PlayStation Vita Game Heaven on March 9, and we have a feeling that it just might include these titles." -Joystiq

"Eurogamer was alerted to the leak by a reader, posting images of all four games listed on the site. The link to Monster Hunter 3 is still live on Play.com." -IGN

"Perhaps the most interesting news here is an HD version of action-RPG Final Fantasy Type-0, which publisher Square Enix released for PlayStation Portable in Japan last year. Although the chances that we'll see that PSP game in the U.S. or Europe seem fairly slim, an HD remake for PlayStation Vita is far more likely to make its way over here." -Kotaku

smh.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on March 07, 2012, 03:42:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih2BoI0BH_Q

 :drill:

Holy shit.
And it's coming out on PC too?  Best news I've heard all year.

Assuming they can keep the soundtrack intact.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Segoris on March 07, 2012, 03:46:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih2BoI0BH_Q

 :drill:

I'm reminded of T&C Surf and was hoping for a Thrilla Gorilla Surfer


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on March 07, 2012, 04:01:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih2BoI0BH_Q

 :drill:

Very cool, though if I'm completely honest, I'd rather they did Future.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 08, 2012, 02:27:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih2BoI0BH_Q

 :drill:
This will make me buy a Vita.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on March 08, 2012, 02:33:29 PM
If it ever comes out for the Vita.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on March 08, 2012, 02:33:59 PM
So Fez developer Phil Fish has capped off his GDC week that started with him humiliating and embarrassing a Japanese developer at what was meant to be a respectful panel to discuss an indie game film by crowing about the Indie Games Festival tossing him an award for the game he has yet to release:

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https://twitter.com/#!/PHIL_FISH/status/177739081843875840
@CrowTGamer i just won the grand prize at IGF tonight. suck my dick. choke on it.

https://twitter.com/#!/PHIL_FISH/status/177740040393334787
@Grabcocque i think it was a shameful, corrupt joke until i won it, and made it legit. you're welcome.

https://twitter.com/#!/PHIL_FISH/status/177742654518476802
no but seriously, suck my dick.

https://twitter.com/#!/PHIL_FISH/status/177821531479605249
you guys thought i was an egotistical asshole before...

That's probably enough to get me to not buy Fez when it finally maybe comes out eventually sometime.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 08, 2012, 02:36:51 PM
Fez was announced years ago, it's still not out, and any company that WANTED to copy it in an even better style could have done so by now.

There's nothing exceptional to see here.

(Edit: Like, seriously, I stopped caring about that thing in 2009. It's like Bob's Game (http://bobsgame.com/) to me now.)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on March 09, 2012, 08:06:03 AM
CryEngine3 Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TtgW20IEm0&feature=g-u-u&context=G207ffd9FUAAAAAAAFAA)

It's just beautiful.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 09, 2012, 09:23:15 AM
Is this going to shorten or lengthen development times?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on March 09, 2012, 03:54:38 PM
There's nothing exceptional to see here.

Apparently there's something (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/03/07/the-competition-the-story-behind-the-igfs-critics/) to see here; whether or not it's exceptional is up to debate, but it's something interesting at least.

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Fez, a novel puzzle-platformer in which you shift between 2D perspectives, may not be coming to PC any time soon but the game is significant in a wider sense. Significant because it has been nominated for two prizes at this year’s Independent Games Festival awards when a few vocal critics have argued it really shouldn’t have been.

The controversy is summarised thus: In 2008, Fez won in the Excellence in Visual Arts category at the IGF. It certainly is a lovely looking game, I can personally testify to that. In 2012 it remains unreleased and subsequently re-enters the IGF for that year (and is eventually nominated for both the Technical Excellence award and the Seamus McNally Grand Prize).

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I smile at the prospect of indie conspiracy theorists. Four of the people who have worked on Fez were jurors in the 2011 competition – Rich Vreeland, Paul Robertson, Renaud Bédard and Phil Fish himself. To some, they are members of a magic circle – the indie Illuminati. To Phil, they’re a group of friends. He laughs at the idea that there’s anyone somehow pulling the string of the indie scene.

Yes, I’m good friends with Brandon Boyer and he’s running the IGF but I don’t think he’s gonna let that…you know, he’s not going to be biased towards us. The guy, he takes this very seriously. It’s just, yeah, we’re a bunch of friends but it’s not like because we’re a bunch of friends we’re all secretly helping each other out to trump the even littler – littlest – guys. There’s so many people on TIGSource that feel like they’re being fucked over by the indie elite. There’s no such thing! The fact that indie games has become a scene just pisses me off. Because now there’s all this scene drama and jealousy and enemies…”

Fez then goes on to win the $30,000 grand prize (which will be a massive help to Fish who has Microsoft breathing down his neck and is six figures in debt due to his inability to finish Fez) in what will probably be the last year that someone will be able to submit their game a second time to the IGF's competition. Exceptional? Probably not. But interesting.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on March 10, 2012, 06:30:41 AM
Is this going to shorten or lengthen development times?

Has any technology shortened development times?

It seems like the answer should be yes and there are some things that have made things faster purely mechanically, for example better UV unwrapping tools, but the answer is really kind of no.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 11, 2012, 09:40:49 PM
I'm not digging it. The closer we get to reality, the further we fall into that uncanny valley.

Skin looked like rubber, rocks looked like legos.

Just don't dig it. This isn't a case of "pointy knees." I actually mean this as I say it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MuffinMan on March 11, 2012, 11:52:55 PM
Yea I couldn't care less about them showing off how good they think their skin textures are, I want to see solid facial animations.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 14, 2012, 01:03:00 AM
I want to have fun.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on March 14, 2012, 03:01:14 AM
The more they focus on their graphics, the less fun their games turn out to be.  Their first was still their best, IMO.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tgr on March 14, 2012, 03:44:26 AM
The more they focus on their graphics, the less fun their games turn out to be.  Their first was still their best, IMO.
Oddly enough, this seems to correlate with a lot of AAA games these days.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on March 14, 2012, 03:53:56 AM
The more they focus on their graphics, the less fun their games turn out to be.  Their first was still their best, IMO.
Oddly enough, this seems to correlate with a lot of AAA games these days.

Yeah, probably.  I just thought it was particularly egregious in this case.  Reason being, in the original Far Cry, despite the fact that the game got rave for the graphics, it's actual shooting mechanics were brilliant.  I fired off my fair share of military weapons back when I was in the Army, and they hit it pretty close to the mark.  Subsequent games from Crytek improved the graphics for sure...but the actual shooting mechanics became worse and worse.  Preparing for their console releases, no doubt  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on March 14, 2012, 05:27:17 AM
The more they focus on their graphics, the less fun their games turn out to be.  Their first was still their best, IMO.
Oddly enough, this seems to correlate with a lot of AAA games these days.

Yeah, probably.  I just thought it was particularly egregious in this case.  Reason being, in the original Far Cry, despite the fact that the game got rave for the graphics, it's actual shooting mechanics were brilliant.  I fired off my fair share of military weapons back when I was in the Army, and they hit it pretty close to the mark.  Subsequent games from Crytek improved the graphics for sure...but the actual shooting mechanics became worse and worse.  Preparing for their console releases, no doubt  :oh_i_see:

I think they were pretty much forced to put more focus on consoles after Crysis tanked at launch (which was their own fault for making a game nobody could play at max settings).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tgr on March 14, 2012, 06:46:20 AM
They could've just realized that graphics do not make games, and they haven't done so for a long while. We got over a certain level, and anything beyond that, while nice, isn't vital.

Or, I guess that's not really relevant for the younger generation, who for some reason seems to go all ga-ga over graphics still. vOv


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on March 14, 2012, 08:11:27 AM
They could've just realized that graphics do not make games, and they haven't done so for a long while. We got over a certain level, and anything beyond that, while nice, isn't vital.

Or, I guess that's not really relevant for the younger generation, who for some reason seems to go all ga-ga over graphics still. vOv

While I generally agree, I think it depends a little on the genre.  FPSs, in my opinion, haven't benefitted from better graphics since possible COD 3.  Or maybe even back to HL2/Far Cry.  Which isn't to say they couldn't still improve, I just think it doesn't matter much anymore at this point.

MMOs still have quite a bit of graphical envelope to push, and I would like to see better graphics from them in general.  They are not even close to realism yet.

Racing games may have nearly maxed out.  It is hard to imagine how there could be any significant graphical leaps from the current crop.

Your big open world sandboxy games, ala GTA, still have a ways to go and could used some major improvements.  Maybe they suffer from some of the same issues that MMOs do, because of the sheer size.

Then you get Skyrim, which proves that RPGs had a ton of potential improvement.  Even Skyrim can be much better.  It looks a treat on highest possible settings, but it suffers plenty of issues.  It has a bunch of performance improvements that can be made, and it is generally way ahead of other RPGs.

And so on.  Sometimes graphics still matter, and can noticeably improve a game.  But your game better be fun to start with, or your fucked.  Pretty alone will no longer cut it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 14, 2012, 09:17:57 AM
FPSs, in my opinion, haven't benefitted from better graphics since possible COD 3.  Or maybe even back to HL2/Far Cry.  Which isn't to say they couldn't still improve, I just think it doesn't matter much anymore at this point.
I would counter that something like FEAR would've totally sucked if not for the graphical portion. Flashlights and environmental effects add a lot to the game, for me. I care more about immersion, though. I'd rather have a really immersive experience with mediocre mechanics (Amnesia) than something that had perfect mechanics but was just a bland setting (Rift, I guess, I don't play shooters anymore).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tgr on March 14, 2012, 09:49:32 AM
FEAR wasn't really very awesome graphically when it came out, it was actually rather middle-range, and I've absolutely no problems with playing that game today, and not even think about the graphics.

Then again, the main reason I'm not really into playing Doom or even Wolfenstein 3D, today, is because improvements in the FPS controls have made me cranky when trying to play wolf3d and doom, but them's the breaks.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 14, 2012, 05:41:00 PM
Atmosphere doesn't have much at all to do with graphical quality.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on March 15, 2012, 01:55:00 AM
FPSs, in my opinion, haven't benefitted from better graphics since possible COD 3.  Or maybe even back to HL2/Far Cry.  Which isn't to say they couldn't still improve, I just think it doesn't matter much anymore at this point.
I would counter that something like FEAR would've totally sucked if not for the graphical portion. Flashlights and environmental effects add a lot to the game, for me. I care more about immersion, though. I'd rather have a really immersive experience with mediocre mechanics (Amnesia) than something that had perfect mechanics but was just a bland setting (Rift, I guess, I don't play shooters anymore).

I think we are actually saying basically the same thing.  You are probably just lumping FEAR into my FPS example, but I was thinking about the typical dime-a-dozen multiplayer shooter when I was making the point.  In summary, in some cases it makes a huuuuge difference.  In other cases, almost none at all.  News at 11.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sjofn on March 15, 2012, 02:12:03 AM
Atmosphere doesn't have much at all to do with graphical quality.

Yep.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 15, 2012, 08:48:52 AM
Atmosphere doesn't have much at all to do with graphical quality.
Depends on how you define quality. There's technical prowess and there's creative leveraging of an engine. Something like FEAR or Amnesia is the latter and what I was talking aboot.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on March 15, 2012, 11:44:15 AM
Regarding the recent Obsidian layoffs and game cancellation I give you what is pretty much the saddest thing:



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on March 15, 2012, 01:18:48 PM
How can anyone be so crazy as to tie their payment of royalties to a goddamn Metacritic score? That just seems the height of stupid business plans.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: shiznitz on March 15, 2012, 01:43:10 PM
Regarding the recent Obsidian layoffs and game cancellation I give you what is pretty much the saddest thing:


From the spoiler: "I would of thought..."  *Sigh*  I guess it is easy to turn off your brain wihen using Twitter.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on March 15, 2012, 01:43:32 PM
Well when you're desperate, you'll agree to pretty much anything, I guess.

And in other news, Giant Bomb's been sold to CBS and will be folded into Gamespot and will even be moving back into the same offices with them.

Welp!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Salamok on March 15, 2012, 01:59:37 PM
How can anyone be so crazy as to tie their payment of royalties to a goddamn Metacritic score? That just seems the height of stupid business plans.

Even more retarded is how can they do that then not finagle another point through any means possible.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on March 15, 2012, 02:22:24 PM
Hell, just tying any sort of revenue to METACRITIC or any critical score is just "Smash my balls with a hammer" stupid. Tie it to revenue, sales numbers, magic unicorn storms over the Baltic Sea, ANYTHING else.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: sickrubik on March 15, 2012, 02:27:06 PM
re: Giant Bomb

I am actually optimistic when it comes to the Gamespot/CBS thing.

Given what John Davidson has started to do to turn around Gamespot and CBSi intent to have good Tech related reporting.. I'm not going to worry. And so far, the word is that it won't be folded into each other, per some of the higher ups at Whiskey Media.

They've (CBSi) pretty much left CNET alone (for whoever you might feel about them), but several people did leave CNET after that whole thing, so who knows.

The current president (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Lanzone) of CBSi is very tech related and seems to be interested in leaving web based content around tech stuff alone.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on March 15, 2012, 02:43:36 PM
Considering that Gersmann being let go from Gamespot was pretty much what killed my interest in those kinds of sites, and that Giant Bomb is the only one I currently read, I'm highly skeptical of this ending well from my point of view.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: sickrubik on March 15, 2012, 02:53:02 PM
John Davidson was not the VP of Gamespot then. He was still over at 1Up/GFW/whatever before THAT went all to shit. BTW, almost the entire GB team was at Gamespot when that Gerstmann stuff went down. I really can't imagine them signing on with something at this point that they were not comfortable with.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: kildorn on March 15, 2012, 03:03:10 PM
I'm amused/saddened that they not only tied their bonuses to metacritic, but also didn't seem to have any legitimate sliding scale. Just "meet this very high target or gtfo"

As I understand it though, publishers absolutely adore metacritic ratings. Possibly because it lets them be lazy and not actually read reviews or look at the product.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 15, 2012, 03:42:55 PM
I have a hard time believing they tie bonuses to metacritic, based mostly on compensated reviews and wanna-be journos and not...err...profits earned? Derrwha?

I guess schild is onto something with his burning revulsion of the workings of the 'industry'.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 15, 2012, 06:00:32 PM
Metacritic is awful, and publishers do in fact love it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on March 15, 2012, 06:34:39 PM
Not feeling very positive about the Giant Bomb thing. The fragile ecosystem that allowed for their brand of crazy has been broken and being reattached to the blandest of the bland mainstream sites will not help. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on March 15, 2012, 08:01:45 PM
Not feeling very positive about the Giant Bomb thing. The fragile ecosystem that allowed for their brand of crazy has been broken and being reattached to the blandest of the bland mainstream sites will not help. 

Not too keen on GB becoming part of CBS, but I'll pretty much just wait and see.

Even weirder is what's happening at (former) Whiskey Media site Tested.com (http://www.tested.com/news/so-whats-happening-with-tested-video/3744/).



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on March 15, 2012, 11:20:11 PM
Apparently Obsidian's managed to catch a break, and is now working on a new secret project, according to some digging done by their forumers. Speculation is that an ex-publisher's come to their rescue, so we'll see how that pans out.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: sickrubik on March 15, 2012, 11:33:46 PM
Not feeling very positive about the Giant Bomb thing. The fragile ecosystem that allowed for their brand of crazy has been broken and being reattached to the blandest of the bland mainstream sites will not help.  

Not too keen on GB becoming part of CBS, but I'll pretty much just wait and see.

Even weirder is what's happening at (former) Whiskey Media site Tested.com (http://www.tested.com/news/so-whats-happening-with-tested-video/3744/).

John Davidson sat down with Gertsmann to talk about The Stuff. It really sounds like it came down to suits... Suits that are no longer there. And yeah, excited for the Tested guys.

http://www.gamespot.com/shows/gamespot-live/?event=gamespot_and_giant_bomb20120315


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on March 15, 2012, 11:44:01 PM
Yeah, I've liked John Davidson since back in his 1Up days.  The guy can run a site or a magazine, and still just be one of the guys, doing podcasts and stuff.  I think if they got him on the Bombcast even if only from time to time, it would be great.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 16, 2012, 08:26:28 AM
we'll see how that pans out.
I bet Jack's going to get them to the glory hole!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 16, 2012, 09:41:28 AM
Atmosphere doesn't have much at all to do with graphical quality.
Depends on how you define quality. There's technical prowess and there's creative leveraging of an engine. Something like FEAR or Amnesia is the latter and what I was talking aboot.

I'm using quality in the technical or objective way.  Like: The graphical quality of Super Mario World is superior to that of Super Mario Bros. 3.  Use of the technical medium to create something brilliant, that's not what I meant by graphical quality.  That would be quality of the artist.  Like: The quality of the artists that worked on EQ2 was very low.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 16, 2012, 09:43:29 AM
Apparently Obsidian's managed to catch a break, and is now working on a new secret project, according to some digging done by their forumers. Speculation is that an ex-publisher's come to their rescue, so we'll see how that pans out.

Hopefully they can all get some journeyman plumber jobs, leading to eventual union pay and a satisfactory distance from game programming.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 16, 2012, 09:45:17 AM
How can anyone be so crazy as to tie their payment of royalties to a goddamn Metacritic score? That just seems the height of stupid business plans.

Apparently it worked like a fucking charm.

Maybe you are looking at it from the perspective of the working man.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on March 16, 2012, 06:22:20 PM
Heh. It worked for Bethesda. Obsidian... not so much.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ragnoros on March 18, 2014, 01:48:32 AM
Eh, I can only wish Obsidian the best. I got more mileage out of New Vegas than Skyrim, which is saying something. I just hate how their games are so damn hit or miss. As conversely I got all of three hours out of DS3 before I never touched it again, which is practically a felony.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 31, 2012, 10:28:12 PM
Got Platinum on Club Nintendo today, thanks to a couple purchases by the boy.  So I ordered a blue Boo notebook for him.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on April 01, 2012, 06:48:14 PM
Looks like Sega of America got gutted yesterday, lots of layoffs.  PR release says they're restructuring to refocus on their core IPs, Sonic (obviously), Aliens, Total War, and Football Manager.  Sad, I liked their games, despite their shit PC ports.

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Sega's "extraordinary loss" (caused in part by costs from this restructuring) will see the company's expected profits drop from 38 billion yen ($462 million) to 20 billion yen ($243 million,) with sales revenue dipping about a half-billion dollars. The cancellation of these projects and this reform is estimated to have a 7.1 billion yen ($86.5 million) price tag.

http://kotaku.com/5898026/sega-of-america-walloped-by-layoffs-western-publishing-reduced-to-sonic-and-three-others

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/03/30/sega-canceling-games-cutting-jobs-in-us-and-europe-to-restructu/#continued


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 13, 2012, 11:27:04 AM
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/85916/battle_space_cbt.png)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on April 13, 2012, 01:06:45 PM
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/04/12/oh-dear-cc-tiberium-alliances-may-have-borrowed/
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f I were EA, it would be right about now I’d be issuing a memo to all my employees and contracted developers to say, “Hey guys, um, can we all stop doing overtly dumb things for a bit? Cheers, thanks, love EA.” With an internet backlash against the company, part deserved, part self-entitled arsetits leaping on the latest channel for their boundless streams of hate, now was perhaps not the best time for it to be noticed that Command & Conquer Tiberium Alliances has – allegedly – been copying its tanks from Warhammer 40K. (Usually slapping in an “allegedly” is a coward’s way of making an accusation, but you might want to see just how similar they are in the pics below.)

As reported by Eurogamer, and spotted by Reddit, the designs for the new free-to-play C&C game do seem somewhat… borrowed.
(http://i.imgur.com/8YBGg.jpg)
(http://imgur.com/0kdcz)

Don't worry EA, it's not like Games Workshop's lawyers have a reputation of striking down with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to make money from GW's IPs or anything.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on April 13, 2012, 01:11:21 PM
Don't worry EA, it's not like Games Workshop's lawyers have a reputation of striking down with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to make money from GW's IPs or anything.

Actually, they're just good at bullying lone dudes in garages. Their first real case, against Chapterhouse Studios, has become a farce.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on April 17, 2012, 06:19:48 AM
On the other hand, Blizzard's been getting away with it for years.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on May 08, 2012, 01:14:00 PM
The possible return of Carmageddon (through Kickstarter) :

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/stainlessgames/carmageddon-reincarnation

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After years of negotiation, the original founders of Stainless recently bought back ALL the rights to Carmageddon. So now it’s back in its rightful home, we’ve embarked on the journey that will reboot the brand, and we want YOU to join us on that journey.

I really enjoyed Carmageddon, it was fun as hell, would like to see a comeback :)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on May 24, 2012, 12:07:13 PM
Metro: Last Light - Enter the Metro Short Film (Official UK)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc9LNwddfLE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc9LNwddfLE)

I enjoyed Metro 2033 and so I'm slightly excited about this despite it being delayed until 2013.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on May 30, 2012, 10:32:25 AM
Today CD Projekt will hold its Summer 2012 conference, in collaboration with GoG: beside a new IP announcement from the software house and other stuff, from various hints I gathered on Ultima websites and Twitter, a new Ultima game might be announced, probably the one Paul Barnett has been working on for the past couple years.

Conference starts at 5pm GMT (one and half hour)

http://www.gog.com/news/see_our_summer_2012_conference_live


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on May 30, 2012, 10:36:43 AM
a new Ultima game might be announced, probably the one Paul Barnett has been working on for the past couple years.

These two things in conjunction might well be the final death of a dream.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ffc on May 30, 2012, 12:33:18 PM
I'm watching the stream and I counter the Barnett rumor with the new IP announcement being (based on?) Cyberpunk RPG using the Witcher 2 engine.  They also keep mentioning Blade Runner.

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2938963/cyberpunk.jpg)

 :drill:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on May 30, 2012, 02:36:45 PM
If Paul Barnett gets his greasy, sunglass covered fingers on the actual Cyberpunk 2020 IP to make a game, I will rain unholy fire down upon this planet because we will all deserve ANNIHILATION.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on May 30, 2012, 03:12:44 PM
On the other hand, if we get Cyberpunk 2020 and Barnett is not involved, I will be very, very happy.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on May 30, 2012, 04:14:02 PM
Yes.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on May 30, 2012, 04:41:51 PM
MOTHERFUCKER. They are making a cyberpunk game. Is Barnett involved? Please tell me he is not.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on May 30, 2012, 05:13:36 PM
If Paul Barnett gets his greasy, sunglass covered fingers on the actual Cyberpunk 2020 IP to make a game, I will rain unholy fire down upon this planet because we will all deserve ANNIHILATION.


MOTHERFUCKER. They are making a cyberpunk game. Is Barnett involved? Please tell me he is not.

 :headscratch:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on May 30, 2012, 05:49:36 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Barnett_%28video_game_designer%29


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on May 31, 2012, 12:57:38 AM
Silicon Knights's lawsuit against Epic over with the jury finding for Epic on all counts (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/171362/Epic_prevails_in_suit_against_Silicon_Knights_receives_445M_in_damages.php) and in favor of Epic on their counter claims to the tune of $4.45M.  Given that SK's last game was that really terrible X-Men game that nobody played, one wonders if they're done for good now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sir Fodder on May 31, 2012, 12:59:59 PM
Just picked up the new Humble Indie Bundle (https://www.humblebundle.com/): Bastion, Psychonauts, Amnesia, Limbo plus more. Nice!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on May 31, 2012, 01:27:57 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Barnett_%28video_game_designer%29


No, i understood that part, I was confused about why he had that reaction, then 2 hours later had the same reaction as if he was hearing the news for the first time. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on May 31, 2012, 01:34:38 PM
Because I can't see anything that says Barnett is involved. I would rather they didn't make the game if he's going to be involved in its creation.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on June 25, 2012, 08:24:33 PM
http://www.redbubble.com/shop/featured+varia+mucha+t-shirts


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on June 26, 2012, 09:27:46 AM
Mucha style is so awesome.

Too bad it's a crappy nintendo thing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on June 27, 2012, 04:08:33 PM
There is quite an art nouveau surge right now, so you can probably find one featuring a wood pile if you are diligent.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kageru on June 28, 2012, 08:36:59 AM

I've got a Mucha (http://www.threadless.com/product/2443/Mucha_Lucha) T-shirt, but the art is not so great, the joke sort of limited and the threadless T-shirts are terrible quality now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on July 07, 2012, 03:32:45 PM
Video of a pretty impressive realtime tech demo from Square Enix.

Agni's Philosophy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVX0OUO9ptU)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on July 17, 2012, 02:29:01 PM
Have any of you guys  ever played Shen Mue on the Dreamcast? Because  I have fond memories of the game and I was wondering if, nowadays,  there is a game that resembles it, gameplay wise. Hmm, maybe the GTA series? (beside the Dreamcast, I never owned a console).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on July 18, 2012, 12:48:36 AM
If you can find a copy of it, Shenmue II on the oXbox is playable on the 360. Aside from the whole not having a 360 thing I guess.

Shenmue's a pretty unique game, and I can't think of much like it. Heavy Rain or something maybe?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on July 18, 2012, 12:52:49 AM
The Yakuza series.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on July 18, 2012, 08:57:22 PM
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/85916/nixtoons/Untitled10.png)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on July 19, 2012, 08:07:49 PM
This is so neat  :heart:

"The evolution of PC games" in 2:31, especially through sounds and quick visuals. Quite a trip down the memory lane :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuO-s1kugLs


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kageru on July 19, 2012, 10:25:56 PM

That's pretty cool. Always great to be reminded how fast the games have evolved and some old memories refreshed.

...  :heart: loderunner.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Xilren's Twin on July 24, 2012, 07:14:36 AM
Heroes of Might and Magic online is officially dead.  Long live the king! Netdragon spammed my email with this announcement.
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Greetings, Heroes of Might and Magic Online!

We're sincerely sorry that Heroes of Might and Magic Online will no longer be in operation, but the CO team is happy to welcome you into the fantasy world of Conquer!

Shocking I know.  I think the last post i saw on this was like 2010?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on July 24, 2012, 07:41:59 AM
Welp, I'm officially old. I am offended by a videogame for reasons other than "it sucks and I paid money for it".

Far Cry 3's multiplayer is going to have a "mini-game" afterwards where the winning team gets to torture/kill or release the best player from the losing team.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on July 24, 2012, 08:22:45 AM
"Detain"


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 24, 2012, 08:55:22 AM
Ah, remember back when we could just get offended by tits?

How I used to love being offended. All day long, sometimes.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on July 24, 2012, 10:47:41 AM
Welp, I'm officially old. I am offended by a videogame for reasons other than "it sucks and I paid money for it".

Far Cry 3's multiplayer is going to have a "mini-game" afterwards where the winning team gets to torture/kill or release the best player from the losing team.

I guess you never played Commando Libya on C64?  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on July 24, 2012, 02:38:18 PM
Welp, I'm officially old. I am offended by a videogame for reasons other than "it sucks and I paid money for it".

Far Cry 3's multiplayer is going to have a "mini-game" afterwards where the winning team gets to torture/kill or release the best player from the losing team.

I guess you never played Commando Libya on C64?  :awesome_for_real:
Man I played a lot of C64 games as a kid and never heard of that. That certainly is a thing. Still offends me less however.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Llyse on August 03, 2012, 03:50:53 AM
The finals of the last Starcraft:Broodwar OSL is tomorrow night GMT +9. After this Korean e-sports will finally have completely moved to SC2

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Thirteen years of history. Thirteen years of stories. Thirteen years of Brood War. It’s all led up to this single match. Heo “JangBi” Yeong Moo and Jung “Fantasy” Myung Hoon will face each other in the first and only repeat finals in Starleague history, for the honor of being the last Brood War Starleague champion. Fittingly, this finale will kick off with a revival of the original eSports rivalry: a Legends Match between Lim “BoxeR” Yo Hwan and Hong “YellOw” Jin Ho.

From Blizzard (http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/6855427/The_Crowning_Event_OGN_Starleagues_Brood_War_Finals_-8_1_2012)

You can visit here (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=265636) for more background and watch it live (http://www.twitch.tv/ogn_star2).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on August 03, 2012, 08:30:11 AM
Even though Boxer and Yellow are probably out of practice, I think I am more excited for their show match than the real finals.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ezrast on August 04, 2012, 11:03:10 AM
So, Awesomenauts? Anyone played?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Evildrider on August 04, 2012, 03:57:07 PM
This is so neat  :heart:

"The evolution of PC games" in 2:31, especially through sounds and quick visuals. Quite a trip down the memory lane :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuO-s1kugLs

That vid reminded me how much I used to love the old SSI TSR games like Pools of Radiance.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on August 04, 2012, 04:47:43 PM
I keep meaning to break out my copies some time (moved 'em to CD from the 5.25" floppies I had them on), but they're unplayable without the code wheels which got lost in a fire.  :heartbreak:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on August 04, 2012, 05:19:44 PM
http://www.weekendwastemonster.net/crpgs/pool/codewheel/codewheel.html


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 04, 2012, 06:25:02 PM
I've seen MOBA twice in one day, don't know what it represents.  Mefense Of Bee Ancients?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 04, 2012, 06:44:57 PM
Multiplayer Online Battle Arena.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on August 04, 2012, 07:27:00 PM
I fucking hate that stupid acronym.  Takes four words to say nothing.  Multiplayer AND online, you don't say?  And there's BATTLE in this video game?  AMAZING!  It would be like calling FPSes "Personal Weapon Interaction Simulation."  I guess they were just sick of people calling them "DotA clones."

As for Awesomenauts, I haven't played it myself, the stuff I've seen from it looks kind of shallow, but not horribly unfun.  Doesn't look BAD, but it definitely gives off a bit of a budget title vibe, and considering they're competing against games which are free, I don't know that I'd buy it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 04, 2012, 08:43:21 PM
Multiplayer Online Battle Arena.

Almost as bad as MMORPG.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on August 05, 2012, 03:41:37 AM
I guess they were just sick of people calling them "DotA clones."

One or the other of the clone makers was the first to push it I think. It doesn't do your marketing any favors when you have to use the name of one of your competitors to describe your own game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Megrim on August 06, 2012, 01:14:53 AM
I never could figure out why people don't just use "Tower Defense".


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on August 06, 2012, 01:20:58 AM
Because it was already taken!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on August 06, 2012, 01:42:28 AM
And for most people "tower defense" conjures up a mental image of a very different type of game, even if they have similarities.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on August 06, 2012, 04:51:18 AM
This is so neat  :heart:

"The evolution of PC games" in 2:31, especially through sounds and quick visuals. Quite a trip down the memory lane :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuO-s1kugLs

It's me at 0:02!  :heart:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on August 06, 2012, 10:13:05 AM
Speaking of MOBAs  :why_so_serious: apparently Stardock is making one and I have no interest in the genre probably.

But I do have a beta key. PM ftw.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on August 06, 2012, 11:48:23 PM
Someone (not Team Gizka) actually finished a KOTOR2 restoration project:

http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/07/26/community-heroes-modders-debug-and-restore-cut-content-in-knights-of-the-old-republic-ii/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on August 06, 2012, 11:55:54 PM
Kinda late imo.

Dashus was such a spiteful douchebag.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on August 07, 2012, 12:24:08 AM
That particular ModDB restoration's actually been done for a couple years now, but it keeps getting updated, which is good.

And yeah, Dashus was kind of a cock. What all went on with him anyway?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on August 07, 2012, 06:30:19 AM
This is all I know:
http://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/team-gizka-leader-dashus-just-got-pwned.155813/

After that the mod kind of disappeared off my radar.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on August 08, 2012, 09:22:23 AM
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive is now available for pre-order on Steam.  At only 13.50 for the pre-order it was a no brainer for me.  Counter Strike is maybe the shooter I've played more raw hours than any other in my life, and I'd be shocked not to get my money's worth even if I put it down after a month or two this time around.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on August 08, 2012, 09:38:15 AM
LOL console shooter.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on August 08, 2012, 09:52:46 AM
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive is now available for pre-order on Steam.  At only 13.50 for the pre-order it was a no brainer for me.  Counter Strike is maybe the shooter I've played more raw hours than any other in my life, and I'd be shocked not to get my money's worth even if I put it down after a month or two this time around.

For $1.50 I can wait and see.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on August 08, 2012, 01:08:11 PM
This is why I posted it in this thread instead of making a new thread for the game itself  :awesome_for_real:

Seriously though, I'm willing to admit to being more or less a fanboy of the series, so the game would have to be disastrous for me not to enjoy it.  Figure I'd post here in case anyone else happened to be interested in pre-ordering, though I realize F13 isn't big into competitive shooter titles.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on August 08, 2012, 02:17:41 PM
This is why I posted it in this thread instead of making a new thread for the game itself  :awesome_for_real:

Seriously though, I'm willing to admit to being more or less a fanboy of the series, so the game would have to be disastrous for me not to enjoy it.  Figure I'd post here in case anyone else happened to be interested in pre-ordering, though I realize F13 isn't big into competitive shooter titles.

I recently rediscovered all the crazy server side map mods in CS1.6. Too much fun, and total muscle memory.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on August 08, 2012, 02:41:28 PM
I played CS obsessively back in its beta days until they destroyed the game around beta 6.5 or so :awesome_for_real: I was good enough to have been a part of the original W.E.W. started by Scissors until I got kicked out for kicking other W.E.W. members who were incognito and constantly fucking with the W.E.W. server settings like gravity :awesome_for_real: :oh_i_see: (Yes they complained to Scissors because I kicked and banned them for being fucktards).

I'll definitely give the new one a try but my days as a hardcore FPS player are long past.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on August 08, 2012, 08:36:28 PM
Yeah, Beta 6 or so (when all the wallhacks got to be utterly ridiculous) was when I started to lose interest in CS, and I didn't play it much after. I've looked into CS:GO, but I just don't think the magic will be there. I don't even really see the point of it, since it just looks like a prettier CS:Source with a shitty UI, but hey.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on August 16, 2012, 02:27:17 PM
As you might know, next 24th September will mark the 15th year anniversary for Ultima Online: early in October, it looks like we'll get an interesting "post mortem" during GDC online, with Raph Koster, Starr Long and Rich Vogel :)
http://schedule.gdconline.com/session/13473949?_cid=GDCO12_Update6

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At first, it was mostly a team of newbies. For a while, the office space was a few rooms on a floor that was gutted for construction -- you could literally walk off the 5th floor of building and plunge to your death if you weren't careful. The artists sat in the hallway. And the team was out to change everything. Ultima Online was not only one of the first graphical MMORPGs, it also set the standard for player vs player combat and sandbox/emergent gameplay in online titles for many years to come. Three of the UO team's chief members -- Raph Koster, Rich Vogel, and Starr Long (all of whom went on to shape the online gaming landscape) -- will deliver a postmortem on the landmark title, reflecting on the challenges they faced from early development to maintaining the game well after its launch. Come learn how a combination of insane ambition and idealistic cluelessness can sometimes result in creating something that changes people's lives and the course of an industry.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: trias_e on August 17, 2012, 11:02:35 PM
If you've been on the fence about trying TSW (a fence should promptly get off of in favor of the game), it's $25 at amazon.  Even if you have no desire to play an MMO, the game is easily worth 25 bucks on the merits of it's RPG/adventure game content alone.

http://www.amazon.com/Electronic-Arts-41018ecret-World1-Download/dp/B007VTVKG6/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Megrim on August 19, 2012, 09:52:25 PM
Yeah, Beta 6 or so (when all the wallhacks got to be utterly ridiculous) was when I started to lose interest in CS, and I didn't play it much after. I've looked into CS:GO, but I just don't think the magic will be there. I don't even really see the point of it, since it just looks like a prettier CS:Source with a shitty UI, but hey.

I've been playing it. The magic is there, and the UI is not shitty. Fragging kids through walls never gets old.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on August 23, 2012, 10:13:56 AM
I don't have an Xbox 360.  I have a PS3 and a gaming laptop, which I don't much like because it's small.  BUT... even though I got Borderlands for the PS3 and loved it, I should get Borderlands 2 for the PC.  Right?  I don't know why I think that but I just do.  I'm usually wrong about everything so tell me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on August 23, 2012, 10:46:27 AM
Despite complaints about the consolization of Borderlands for the PC, I never had any troubles with the game.  If that's something which worries you though, Claptrap promises it's changed (http://www.borderlands2.com/loveletter/).

My opinion remains shooters are better on a PC.  Plus Steam.  (I may have a spare slot in a 4-pack, but I'm waiting for my friend to decide if she likes the first one enough to go in on this.)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Engels on August 23, 2012, 12:19:29 PM
Can you hook up your laptop to the TV? If so, and you aren't hosing your game performance, I'd get the PC version. Otherwise, with a visually cool game like Borderlands, I'd probably go with the PS3. I know, I'm going straight to hell for saying that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on August 23, 2012, 12:58:20 PM
k.  I've never used a gamepad (at least not that I can remember) with a pc.  Would that make it better or worse?  And if better, what sort should I buy.  Geez.  You'd think I'm new at this gaming stuff, wouldn't you?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Arinon on August 23, 2012, 01:08:31 PM
I just started using a gamepad on my PC a few months ago.  You can use a PS3 controller if you futz around enough with software but it's a pain.  A vanilla, wired, XBox 360 controller has worked great with whatever I've tried.  I think people are crazy using one for shooters over m+kb but different strokes I guess.  Works great for games like Amalur and Darksiders though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on August 23, 2012, 01:15:17 PM
I broke my arm last year (knee this year!  ;p) and m&kb get painful after a while.  Hoping to go back and forth until more physical therapy kicks in. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on August 23, 2012, 01:23:48 PM
I broke my arm last year (knee this year!  ;p) and m&kb get painful after a while.  Hoping to go back and forth until more physical therapy kicks in. 

I think you are gaming too hard. Perhaps try clicking easier?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on August 23, 2012, 01:29:33 PM
Too much skateboarding clearly.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on August 23, 2012, 01:47:08 PM
Given that maybe the PS3 is a better option.  Or short play sessions on the PC.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on August 23, 2012, 01:53:36 PM
The big plusses for Borderlands on PC would be you can mod it if need be, and I'd guess that is where most f13 people will get it (not sure if you give a shit about multiplayer or not.)

From my own shoulder injury history I would say that a gamepad was definitely much easier to use for long sessions while I was recovering, not sure exactly how/if that will translate to broken arm problems.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on August 23, 2012, 02:14:27 PM
Broke my shoulder at the same time.  I no longer do really long gaming sessions.  An hour and I need a nap.  Or, at least, my arm needs a nap.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Minvaren on August 25, 2012, 08:02:34 AM
Rock Band Blitz is releasing on Tuesday.  Peeking at the gameplay, looks like Harmonix is heading back to their Frequency roots.

For most people, I imagine it will end up being a track pack for RB3.  For me, it should help tide me over until the updated Rocksmith releases in October.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 26, 2012, 10:05:31 AM
I'll be getting Borderlands 2 on 360 because my crew has 360s, and playing it solo < playing it with assholes that drive you off of cliffs and open menus when you try to fast travel.  Well, we think it's funny.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on August 30, 2012, 08:45:41 PM
So, it looks like Gotham City Impostors has gone F2P.  If you're not familiar with the title, visit Steam, (http://store.steampowered.com/) and hit the little tick box next to "show downloadable content" and you should get an idea of what the game's about.

The original launch was apparently saddled with GFWL, but the devs have fixed that, and the re-release uses Steamworks.  One small problem: anyone who bought the original game or any DLC now cannot use it and has to re-purchase it.  Considering that the original game was something like $15 with somewhere in the area of $35 of launch day DLC, this is causing some frustration.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on August 30, 2012, 10:42:11 PM
One small problem: anyone who bought the original game or any DLC now cannot use it and has to re-purchase it.  Considering that the original game was something like $15 with somewhere in the area of $35 of launch day DLC, this is causing some frustration.

Considering how much of a clusterfuck the original release was on all platforms, I am not shocked in the slightest that this isn't going smoothly.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on August 31, 2012, 07:13:38 AM
I'm so happy I have a ferret.  I've always wanted a ferret.  Well, I don't have one myself but my lady knight, Hank, has one.  His name is Dave.  I wonder if I'll be able to transfer him to Torchlight 2.  I've become very attached to him.

Isn't there to be some sort of Torchlight 2 announcement today?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 31, 2012, 07:47:51 AM
So, it looks like Gotham City Impostors has gone F2P.
The original launch was apparently saddled with GFWL,

It was also saddled with lots of suck.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on September 04, 2012, 06:18:56 PM
So yeah, here's a rough idea of how well F2P Gotham City Imposters is going:

If Steam's friends list goes down - as it's known do to at least a couple times per day - everybody in-game gets disconnected. No XP earned.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: murdoc on September 06, 2012, 08:54:58 AM
Not sure where to put this, as I don't think it quite deserves it's own thread - but you can get Tecmo Super Bowl 2013 (http://tecmobowl.org/_/tecmo-news/yearly-tecmo-releases/tecmobowlorg-presents-tecmo-super-bowl-2013-r110) for free. All 32 teams with current players and stats, playable on a NES emulator.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on September 06, 2012, 11:42:39 AM
So yeah, in case you were still looking for reasons not to give Stardock your money:

http://kotaku.com/5940401/pc-gaming-studio-said-she-ruined-their-game-but-only-after-she-sued-the-boss-for-sexual-harassment

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I'm not some manager or coworker of yours. I own the company. It, and your job there, exist to suit my purposes, not vice versa. The company is not an end unto itself, it is a means to an end which is to further the objectives of its shareholders (in this case, me).

 :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on September 06, 2012, 12:57:12 PM
"Purity tests" for female employees? Whatta perv.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 06, 2012, 01:30:10 PM
Brad always struck me as broken for whatever reason, but from now on I'm simply going to go on first instinct when gaming companies get weird.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: bhodi on September 06, 2012, 01:38:07 PM
Yep. That's a lawsuit!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: bhodi on September 06, 2012, 01:45:28 PM
Wow, he went over to quarter to three to discuss the article while BOTH COURT CASES ARE ONGOING!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on September 06, 2012, 01:49:53 PM
Yeah it is pretty amazing. I think he's gunning for Dr. Smart's world championship belt.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on September 06, 2012, 01:59:05 PM
The sun rises, the sun sets, the leaves turn, the seasons change, and Brad Wardell is an enormous asshole.

The cycles of the world remain as they always were.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on September 06, 2012, 02:53:27 PM
I especially loved the part where he said he wouldn't stop making sexist inappropriate jokes because he was a sexist inappropriate person, so deal with it or quit. :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on September 06, 2012, 03:06:46 PM
And he's gone on elsewhere to say that it nothing about this constituted a hostile work environment, when it actually pretty much defines it.  :headscratch:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sjofn on September 06, 2012, 03:24:40 PM
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In May 2010, during a dinner on a media tour, Wardell touched Miseta's hair.

That cracks me up as the "last straw" for her, because I can completely sympathize. Creepy fucks love touching hair.


EDIT: Also, purity tests? What is he, fourteen?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: kildorn on September 06, 2012, 03:54:39 PM
So his defense is that they moved the case to federal court? Is that backed up in any records? Because it's pretty much the definition of retaliatory if he waited all this time to file a lawsuit over destruction of work assets.

That said: she seems to have a pretty well documented and clean case of harassment. Way to go, douchebag boss!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on September 06, 2012, 03:59:14 PM
So yeah, in case you were still looking for reasons not to give Stardock your money:

http://kotaku.com/5940401/pc-gaming-studio-said-she-ruined-their-game-but-only-after-she-sued-the-boss-for-sexual-harassment

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I'm not some manager or coworker of yours. I own the company. It, and your job there, exist to suit my purposes, not vice versa. The company is not an end unto itself, it is a means to an end which is to further the objectives of its shareholders (in this case, me).

 :ye_gods:

Holy God, so full of Serek Dmart style awesomeness. Some of these fucktards actually cannot function in the real business world. Manbabies with ownership titles. To go on QT3 to respond to an article is just  :ye_gods:

The whole "deleted marketing materials" thing and how that affected the game? It would have FUCKALL to do with the game being a piece of shit. No one is going to be looking at the marketing materials while trying to create levels and shit. What a fucking asshole.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 06, 2012, 04:11:20 PM
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Wow, he went over to quarter to three to discuss the article while BOTH COURT CASES ARE ONGOING!

That would be because he's one of the dumbest people alive.

Edit: Can someone screenshot the entire relevant Q23 thread?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on September 06, 2012, 04:23:11 PM
I guarantee you that there are probably 20 people from Lum's forum doing just that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 06, 2012, 04:33:24 PM
Ok?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on September 06, 2012, 04:37:27 PM
Well, assuming your concern is that it all will suddenly vanish, if it does, I'm sure one of them will post it somewhere.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mosesandstick on September 06, 2012, 04:54:07 PM
Read what I think is Brad's lawyers' defence in the sexual harassment case: http://www.scribd.com/doc/105112455/Def-s-Mtn-for-SD

Looks messy. Basically paints a picture that the office was full of casual flirting, relaxed behaviour, etc. and the lady was fully aware and part of it.

I'd hope that the purity test and Brad's e-mails still bring him down.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on September 06, 2012, 05:02:56 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/xdwcR.jpg)

:grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on September 06, 2012, 05:17:55 PM
Yeah, fucking brilliant. Hey, if you win over a couple of basement-dwelling shitbags off on some gaming forum, I'm sure that's going to keep your street cred as...as...a douchebag who makes computer games? Good job Brad: if you're going to "try the case in the media", maybe try some media that actually matter? Of course this is harder to do when the defense of "your case" is "I have the right  to be a sexist douchebag who harasses women because that's just how I roll, and it's my company". 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on September 06, 2012, 05:33:11 PM
Well, assuming your concern is that it all will suddenly vanish, if it does, I'm sure one of them will post it somewhere.

I think his concern is he was banned at Q23 and can't read it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: proudft on September 06, 2012, 05:33:52 PM
Anyone need a job? (No fatties!)

(http://i.imgur.com/qmmyz.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on September 06, 2012, 05:34:21 PM
This keeps getting better, now Stephen Totilo, Editor-in-Chief, Kotaku.com posted on the Quarter-to-3 forum rebutting Wardells allegation that Kotaku wouldn't run his response:

(http://i.imgur.com/I0Igk.png)

Full post here (http://www.quartertothree.com/game-talk/showpost.php?p=3211638&postcount=357)

Edit: @proudft: Is 'not pretty but very ambitious' guy-speak for 'will give head'?  :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on September 06, 2012, 05:39:15 PM
Didn't Wardell post here once upon a time? I recall seeing that same self-entitled buisnessman puffery before.

Or was that just Zepp? I forget.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on September 06, 2012, 05:41:21 PM
Maybe the 'not very pretty' thing was just a result of raised expectations after he misheard her last name as in-a-thong.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Segoris on September 06, 2012, 05:50:14 PM
Good god that thread is a beautiful train wreck :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on September 06, 2012, 05:53:36 PM
Maybe the 'not very pretty' thing was just a result of raised expectations after he misheard her last name as in-a-thong.

What was the job in question that she was interviewing for?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on September 06, 2012, 06:20:31 PM
Given the content of his emails, I believe the jobs pretty much all boil down to "Brad Wardell's bitch."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: kildorn on September 06, 2012, 06:36:09 PM
I love that his defense is essentially "we didn't harass HER, we harassed EVERYONE. See? Equality! Not guilty!"


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sjofn on September 06, 2012, 06:41:48 PM
It's like he's the "DO NOT DO THIS" portion of the sexual harrassment video people have to watch.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: kildorn on September 06, 2012, 06:43:19 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/zmy9s.jpg)

Because fucking LOL at this being an obviously frivolous sexual harassment lawsuit. The dude in email admits to pretty much everything she's claiming. His defense includes the phrase "she was known as a 'party girl'"


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on September 06, 2012, 06:44:52 PM
Edit: @proudft: Is 'not pretty but very ambitious' guy-speak for 'will give head'?  :ye_gods:

Don't let Trippy catch that @.   :ye_gods:

And yah, "very ambitious" reads like "DTF" given what we know of the man. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sjofn on September 06, 2012, 06:45:58 PM
Seriously, touch a woman's hair, you are immediately and forever a creep and should be shunned by all right thinking people.


(The obvious exception is if you are dating/married to/fucking/all of the above said woman. And even then, don't do it at work, for God's sake.)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Llyse on September 06, 2012, 07:19:20 PM
He spelt discretely instead of discreetly.

Hang him

 :mob: :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on September 06, 2012, 08:03:29 PM
He's said this sort of thing before in all sorts of places except not about harassment: that an entire company exists entirely for his pleasure and that if it stop pleasing him, it should cease to exist. Sure makes me want to spend money on a game where I expect that there might be some commitment to product beyond an asshole getting his rocks off.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Selby on September 06, 2012, 09:12:58 PM
Seriously, touch a woman's hair, you are immediately and forever a creep and should be shunned by all right thinking people.
Very true.  I've even had random strangers at bars come up to me and start stroking mine (who then proceed to get offended that I tell them to stop or won't give them the time of day).  No one with short hair understands just how creepy it is.

Game developers who are assholes?  Always a good story...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on September 06, 2012, 10:33:53 PM
He's said this sort of thing before in all sorts of places except not about harassment: that an entire company exists entirely for his pleasure and that if it stop pleasing him, it should cease to exist. Sure makes me want to spend money on a game where I expect that there might be some commitment to product beyond an asshole getting his rocks off.

Yeah that's the part that fucking hacks me off.  Harassment isn't acceptable but I can fathom the mindset behind it from douchebags.  People who think they're smoother than they are, or that the harasee really DOES love it.  Some people really are that oblivious and I get that.

The whole, "Hey, let me get away with whatever I want because you're my slaves and if you don't you'll be unemployed" thing?  What the fuck.  Get that guy some lithium because the sociopathy to pull that kind of passive-aggressive craziness needs serious help.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maledict on September 07, 2012, 02:01:51 AM
I love how his email to HR ends with a rant about his rights and that he would shut down the entire company if they were in any way restricted. It's such a laughably stereotypical right wing nut response, and totally out of place in the email but by god he has to make his point!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on September 07, 2012, 07:10:13 AM
If you read the Qt3 thread, you get the extra plus of finding out that the HR head is his sister-in-law. I think Brad and Curt Schilling should get together, they can be the corporate equivalent of Team Rocket.

Some fascinating bits in the ongoing carwreck:

a) Brad Wardell thinks that his counter-filing is independent evidence of what really happened rather than a document prepared by his lawyers trying to put the best possible face on this. (Good luck to them on that score.)
b) He really doesn't get the "hostile environment" concept. In particular, he thinks that if you don't say or do something to someone directly, it's never actionable. I have to think his lawyers have tried to get him to understand otherwise. If you sit around talking with other workers about the breasts of an employee who is not present, for example, that's a textbook example of hostile environment--if the person in question ever finds out about it. (which they almost certainly will if you do that a lot)
c) He keeps falling back on the "she never said anything about this until that email, and everyone else here loves getting sent purity tests and being asked about their bra sizes and doing that Robot Chicken stuff", even as a Qt3 poster quotes bits of the depositions to him that have employees verifying that this woman and others were often upset at his behavior and said so to colleagues.
d) He doesn't seem to have even the slightest awareness of why "I can do whatever the fuck I want with this company, shut it down if I feel like it on a whim" is a devastating thing to have made public regardless of the harassment case--both for how it affects Stardock's already iffy relationship to consumers and for retention of other talent. Would I be looking for another job if I worked at Stardock even if I liked all the Robot Chicken jokes and taking purity tests and think it's ok if my boss fondles the hair of female employees and tell them their nipples would look great in PR presentations? Yes, I think so--generally when the boss says, "This company is subject to any whim I have and maybe I'll just take my toys and go home, so there?" that company is not very secure for the future.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on September 07, 2012, 07:28:15 AM
That whole purity test thing is a anti-riot!  They weren't funny when they first showed up eleventy billion years ago.  Anyway, I always get the answers wrong so purity tests can foad.  Same with that scrotally challenged Brad whastisthingyname douche.  He seems to be a sub-human Klein bottle filled with smeggy cheese.  I hates him and his nasty gameses, whatever they are.

Did that make sense?  I'm having a day.   :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Segoris on September 07, 2012, 09:33:16 AM
So supposedly there was more to Brad's email response, bolded below the part that was originally left out. It's like he's so close to understanding but then stays on his high horse.

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Hi Alexandra,
 
Thank you for bringing these up to me as I certainly do not want you to feel uncomfortable at work.
 
I don't recall item #1 but will certainly endeavor to be extra careful.
 
I understand #2. I will be more conscious of this in the future.
 
#3, however is not acceptable to me. I am an inappropriate, sexist, vulgar, and embarrassing person and I'm not inclined to change my behavior. If this is a problem, you will need to find another job.
 
#4, Again, I am not willing to adapt my behavior to suit others. IF you find my behavior problematic, I recommend finding another job.
 
I'm not some manager or coworker of yours. I own the company. It, and your job here, exist to suit my purposes, not vice versa. The company is not an end unto itself, it is a means to an end which is to further the objectives of its shareholders (in this case, me).
 
While I certainly agree that your rights as a person (certainly in terms of physical contact or interms of comments made towards you regarding your private live) take precedence over my rights as the owner of the business, that is as far as it goes.
 
I sincerely apologize for offending you while on our trip. I certainly would never intentionally try to upset you or make you uncomfortable and will endeavor to avoid doing so in the future. However, I won't change my basic personality to suit anyone (i.e. being an inappropriate, sexist, vulgar and embarrassing person).
 
Kind regards,
 
Brad


Also - should this topic be split to it's own thread?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on September 07, 2012, 03:39:11 PM
Hey, did we ever find out what company Sand(/whatever his old name) was actually ran?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on September 07, 2012, 03:46:57 PM
http://www.questoutdoors.com/

This place, I believe.  I recognize the canoe pick from my Facebook feed.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on September 08, 2012, 10:39:08 PM
Some indie game dev is advertising his own game by giving it away for free on thepiratebay. Here's a link (http://mcpixel.net/) to the game's site, and the front page of TPB has an image advertising it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on September 09, 2012, 02:07:00 PM
Oh, McPixel.  Bleh.

Yeah, this seems to be the new thing since Notch made that tweet in January about how piracy is basically free publicity for indies.  I dunno how well it carries over to studios which are smaller than Mojang (i.e. everybody else) and especially McPixel (which is the definition of a bite sized game), but they've been flying since they got featured on Giant Bomb, so whatever.  It's currently on Greenlight if you want to see it on Steam.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on September 11, 2012, 09:12:57 AM
This is just in: ArmA Devs are also spies for evil governments that want to bomb Greece:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-09-11-arma-dev-confirms-staff-arrested-accused-of-spying-by-greek-authorities





Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on September 12, 2012, 03:57:51 AM
This is just in: ArmA Devs are also spies for evil governments that want to bomb Greece:

Now that's a very sensationislt way to put it!   :grin:

According to the greek article linked as source they were arrested and pictures of the military base where found on their cameras and camcorders.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Amaron on September 12, 2012, 01:55:39 PM
This is just in: ArmA Devs are also spies for evil governments that want to bomb Greece:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-09-11-arma-dev-confirms-staff-arrested-accused-of-spying-by-greek-authorities

It would be nice to see the Streisand effect take off here.   Greek military base mods for Day Z all around.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on September 13, 2012, 01:56:52 PM
Wii U's launch date confirmed as Nov. 18 in US, Nov. 30th in Europe, Dec. 8th in Japan. Two models coming out: an 8g for $299 and a 32g for $349. Still no firm list of launch titles yet.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 13, 2012, 02:00:14 PM
I totally can't wait to never even use one.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on September 13, 2012, 02:06:46 PM
^ This. ^


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on September 13, 2012, 02:08:53 PM
Wii U's launch date confirmed as Nov. 18 in US, Nov. 30th in Europe, Dec. 8th in Japan. Two models coming out: an 8g for $299 and a 32g for $349. Still no firm list of launch titles yet.

For what it's worth, launch titles, all out by December 8th:

Nintendo Land

New Super Mario Bros. U

Tekken Tag Tournament 2: Wii U Edition

Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate

Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor’s Edge

Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper

Assassin’s Creed III

Zombie U

Batman: Arkham City Armored Edition


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 13, 2012, 02:10:01 PM
Oh man, now I'm totally still not giving a shit. Whoooo!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on September 13, 2012, 02:31:57 PM
Maybe I just don't travel in the right circles anymore, but the fact that the Wii U is coming out in 2 months and I had no idea blows me away.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on September 13, 2012, 02:44:03 PM
Well the date and price was only just announced today, so.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on September 13, 2012, 03:46:48 PM
Well the date and price was only just announced today, so.

Right, but I had like, no concept that it was even going to be out this year.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goreschach on September 13, 2012, 03:50:01 PM
Wii U's launch date confirmed as Nov. 18 in US, Nov. 30th in Europe, Dec. 8th in Japan. Two models coming out: an 8g for $299 and a 32g for $349. Still no firm list of launch titles yet.

Well, consoles have patches and copy protection now. Might as well start selling them at different performance specs to complete the shit-trifecta.

It's almost like while pc gaming was becoming consolized, console gaming decided to steal all the shitty parts from pc gaming to level the playing field.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on September 13, 2012, 03:59:25 PM
Capacity upgrades and a terrible launch title list. Woo woo.  :roll:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 13, 2012, 04:02:59 PM
Capacity upgrades and a terrible launch title list. Woo woo.  :roll:
It's the Microsoft 3Shitty.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Salamok on September 13, 2012, 04:14:49 PM
The shit hawks are circling, this platform is gonna be a hit!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on September 13, 2012, 04:25:21 PM
Hit or not, it'll still suck. 

edit: Seriously, that's just a really unappealing launch title list (although I have no idea what Nintendo Land is).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Amaron on September 13, 2012, 07:47:15 PM
1GB of ram for games is just hilarious.  It's like a mustang with a 1 gallon tank.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 14, 2012, 03:27:30 AM
1 GB of RAM is double what the Xbox 360 and PS3 have.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: lamaros on September 14, 2012, 05:51:40 AM
Lots of RPGs on sale on GoG.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on September 14, 2012, 12:52:58 PM
Lots of RPGs on sale on GoG.

The BG Enhanced edition is supposed to launch on Monday Tuesday.

http://baldursgate.com/index.en.html


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Amaron on September 14, 2012, 01:48:49 PM
1 GB of RAM is double what the Xbox 360 and PS3 have.

Exactly.  The 360 and PS3 suffer from this heavily.  They're completely bottleknecked on visual quality due to the memory issue.  Now the Wii U comes out with 3x the video processing power but they're going to feed it with 1 gig?  That's insanity.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on September 14, 2012, 05:37:59 PM
Lots of RPGs on sale on GoG.

The BG Enhanced edition is supposed to launch on Monday Tuesday.

http://baldursgate.com/index.en.html

Aaaaaand...  I spoke to soon.

Delayed to Nov 30. 

http://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/4796/ship-date-delay


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on September 14, 2012, 06:00:46 PM
So, for a CRPG "blast from the past", (both in the form of personalities and design approach, this one at least in theory :P) now we have:

- Baldur's Gate EE
- Brian Fargo's Wasteland sequel
- Obsidian's Project Eternity
- Divinity: Original Sin
- Age of Decadence

To that, you can also add graphic adventures, with:

- Ron Gilbert's The Cave
- Tim Schafer's Adventure (Double Fine)
- Jane Jensen's (Gabriel Knight) new adventure

And finally Chris "I'm back in the cockpit" Roberts.


Now, where are Geoff Crammond, David Braben and Doug Church ?  :grin:

Old guys well past their prime, or back "to show how it's done"?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on September 14, 2012, 06:39:09 PM
1 GB of RAM is double what the Xbox 360 and PS3 have.

Exactly.  The 360 and PS3 suffer from this heavily.  They're completely bottleknecked on visual quality due to the memory issue.  Now the Wii U comes out with 3x the video processing power but they're going to feed it with 1 gig?  That's insanity.

I don't understand the reasoning.  I just bought a cheap-ass laptop (under $300) to use as a netbook, and it has 4GB of RAM with room to double it.

Even if none of your launch titles need more than 1G, or even half of that, why not slap a little more in there so you'll have room to grow with future titles?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Minvaren on September 14, 2012, 07:10:00 PM
Because it raises the per-unit cost by $20...   :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on September 14, 2012, 07:31:42 PM
Which matters to Nintendo cause they try and make money off the hardware from the the start, unlike Microsoft and Sony.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Amaron on September 14, 2012, 08:24:03 PM
Which matters to Nintendo cause they try and make money off the hardware from the the start, unlike Microsoft and Sony.

That's true but there are more logical places to cut costs.  The box needs less horsepower and more memory plain and simple.  Add 2 gigs and take out twice the cost in horsepower.   The whole box would be cheaper and produce higher quality visuals.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on September 14, 2012, 10:49:36 PM
It probably doesn't need more memory. A console doesn't have nearly the memory overhead that a box running a consumer OS does. The processor probably is a lot more bang for the buck than added memory in that kind of configuration, I suspect.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on September 16, 2012, 11:18:50 PM
You can try to argue for roomy hardware with Nintendo, but they have decades of empirical evidence that debunks your theories.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on September 24, 2012, 04:26:29 PM
Oooooooh  :Love_Letters: :Love_Letters: :Love_Letters: :Love_Letters:

http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/09/24/beneath-a-steel-sky-2-confirmed/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on September 24, 2012, 05:43:09 PM
Well that's certainly unexpected.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on October 03, 2012, 04:43:20 PM
Speaking of unexpected:

http://epicgames.com/community/2012/10/cliff-bleszinski-departs-epic/

Quote
Today we are saying farewell with warm regards to Cliff Bleszinski, who is departing as Epic’s design director to chart the next stage of his career. During the past two decades, Cliff has helped shape many successful games that have captured the imaginations of millions of players around the world. We are grateful for his influence on Epic’s legacy, from the wild adventures “Jazz Jackrabbit” to the visceral combat of “Gears of War.”

From my understanding, Cliffy B was one of the few people behind a lot of Epic's successes in the past 15 or so years. It's kind of shocking.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: NiX on October 03, 2012, 05:42:25 PM
it's not so shocking if you look back on some of the things hes said over the past few years.

What he does next will surprise anyone. Unless he goes to work at 343 or Activision.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Outlawedprod on October 17, 2012, 05:51:59 PM
https://twitter.com/georgeb3dr/status/258695362620043264
Quote
Good luck to my buddies at LightBox in Austin. Layoffs and rumors of near whole studio gone by Friday :(


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 18, 2012, 09:56:41 AM
They are directly above the Zynga Austin studio here. Literally, if you could bore through the ceiling, you'd end up in their office.

I don't actually think they released a game, but they did work on a couple.

Studios will never survive if they don't, you know, make something.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ard on October 18, 2012, 10:46:55 AM
They released Starhawk a few months back.  I've got a friend there, and that always makes it unhappy times.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on October 20, 2012, 08:17:00 PM
So. I kind of assumed this Sniper Elite games were junk, but this looks pretty damn awesome:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=81527117


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Outlawedprod on October 23, 2012, 02:57:06 PM
http://gamasutra.com/view/news/180005/Breaking_Mass_layoffs_closures_at_Zynga.php


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on October 23, 2012, 03:02:36 PM
They have to find the giant chunk of change they're going to have to pay EA somewhere.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 23, 2012, 03:04:09 PM
EA: They don't even have to buy you to destroy you.

I got a chuckle out of a tv ad for the board version of 'Words with Friends'. Didn't we already have that? Lolvertising.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on October 23, 2012, 03:13:27 PM
Zynga brought it on themselves by basically exactly cloning EA's Sims Facebook game.

EDIT: And if you were trying to read the tea leaves about said lawsuit from this event, it does look like the team that created the game that spawned the lawsuit (The Ville) is among the casualties.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 23, 2012, 04:37:08 PM
I don't mind speculation elsewhere. But let's operate under the assumption I know every single thing about this, the history of all their studios, the management involved, and the game. And god-willing, one day I'll be able to tell that story.

In other words: Shit happens, get a helmet. We can talk about this another day.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on October 23, 2012, 10:23:33 PM
Breaking news: Eric Schild destroyed Zynga.

 :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Outlawedprod on October 26, 2012, 10:52:33 PM
http://kotaku.com/5955223/what-went-wrong-with-silicon-knights-x+men-destiny


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on November 06, 2012, 09:35:47 AM
I bought Okami HD on PSN to show my kid.  It looks gorgeous, but it has been freezing up on her after 10-30 minutes of play.  It appears to hard-lock the PS3. 

I've never seen this before with any other game on my PS3, I can't personally reproduce the error by playing myself, and I can't find mention of the issue anywhere else online.  WTF?  I'm guessing backup the saves and uninstall/reinstall to see if it helps?

Anyone else have their technology just work most of the time, yet everyone around them it always breaks?  Frustrating as hell.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on November 06, 2012, 11:10:25 AM
Yes, my PC works great and everyone else's is shitty.  For no discernable reason.  Except, of course, that I don't let them use it. :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on November 09, 2012, 03:22:51 PM
http://kotaku.com/5955223/what-went-wrong-with-silicon-knights-x+men-destiny

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/11/09/silicon-knights-v-epic-games-judgment/

It keeps rolling...

Quote
Silicon Knights is being ordered by the US court to recall and destroy all unsold copies of games using Unreal Engine 3, including Too Human and X-Men: Destiny. The new ruling on post-trial motions for the case between Silicon Knights and Epic Games also saw Epic's jury award upped from $4.5 million to over $9 million.

The ruling, dated November 7, also orders Silicon Knights to cease using Epic Games's "Licensed Technology" and remove it from the company's game engine. Furthermore, Silicon Knights has until December 10 to destroy any code built using Epic's technology; the court order includes Too Human, X-Men: Destiny, Siren in the Maelstrom, The Sandman, and The Box/Ritualyst. Silicon Knights must notify the court by December 21 and again on February 21, 2013, concerning all injunctions ordered, and they are to be carried out at the company's expense.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on November 09, 2012, 03:32:34 PM
Sweet, my copy of Too Human will be a priceless rarity one day!  :drill:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on November 16, 2012, 09:53:57 AM
PS Vita or 3DS XL?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on November 16, 2012, 12:07:03 PM
What sort of games are you into? The Vita is the more powerful system, intended to be a sort of portable PS3. The 3DS has Nintendo's standard fare so if you're a huge Mario fan go with the 3DS; also if you don't already have a DS the 3DS is backwards compatible and there are a ton of great DS games. Neither of them have a very big library yet, so I'd browse a list of games for either and see which has more exclusives you're into.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on November 16, 2012, 01:38:30 PM
An ipad. Portable systems are shit these days. Vita has Uncharted though. Shame it never got Demon's Souls.

I got a 3DS for free at a Christmas party, and it wasn't worth the price tag.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on November 16, 2012, 02:09:04 PM
PS Vita or 3DS XL?
3DS XL.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on November 16, 2012, 02:24:51 PM

I agree, particularly with the young kid.  They enjoy the Nintendo games more than the full console games.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on November 16, 2012, 02:54:11 PM
Oh, the boy has a 3DS already.  I meant for me.  I also already have a DS Lite.  I appreciate the GBA slot but frankly I haven't used it in ages.  I'm hanging onto that just in case I end up out of work and decide to play all the Pokemon games in order. :oh_i_see:

Trouble is that I haven't been able to monitor Games for about a year, so I don't know what's on each.  The new Ratchet and Clank is the only reason I even considered a Vita, so besides that and Uncharted I have no idea if it's the game-title wasteland that the PS3 was on launch.  On the other hand, I know that there is a digital-fuck-ton of stuff in the Nintendo Store for 3DS.  The 3DS XL looks like a nice upgrade but since I really only play Pokemon Soul Silver anymore, I'm not convinced.  As for PSP, I'm pretty much only playing Monster Hunter, and I haven't had much opportunity for that.

I might have added "or Wii U" on the end of that.  I only realized yesterday that the Wii U was an actual new console; before this I thought it was just a new awkward controller.  I just need to find out if it supports GC games.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on November 16, 2012, 03:01:31 PM
The Vita is having a poorly-advertised one-day-only sale on Black Friday if you're truly in the market for a practically-dead system.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/11/16/exclusive-black-friday-deals-for-ps3-and-ps-vita/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on November 16, 2012, 03:02:39 PM
if you're truly in the market for a practically-dead system.

Heh, that's why I'm pondering this aloud on F13.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on November 16, 2012, 03:11:30 PM
Found danger immediately.  I need someone to convince me to not spend money on this:
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/85916/persona4golden_vita_skin.png)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on November 16, 2012, 03:16:13 PM
I can't convince you because I want one now and will find a way even with no money.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on November 16, 2012, 03:19:46 PM
Well, fuck. :awesome_for_real:

Looks like Vita will play these fucking PSOne games I seem to like, also.

I'm sure my wife can talk sense into me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on November 17, 2012, 12:31:33 AM
Yea, Persona 4 Golden is one of two reasons why I bought a Vita (Disgaea 3 being the other); that's not a special edition Vita though, just one with the P4G: Solid Gold edition special skin/wallpaper. You can play some PSX games on it, and most PSP games, if you download them from the PSN. I'm honestly pretty happy with my Vita (I play it way more than my 3DS) particularly for a system that hasn't yet been out a year.

Also the Wii U is probably not GC-backwards compatible, considering the current model Wii doesn't play GC anymore.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on November 17, 2012, 12:57:01 AM
Found danger immediately.  I need someone to convince me to not spend money on this:
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/85916/persona4golden_vita_skin.png)
Cause those stickers (and case) are really expensive?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on November 17, 2012, 02:21:05 AM
The Vita has confused me. There's a 3G version out there - so it's a phone too? But most of the new systems I'm seeing are Wifi with no mention of 3G. So you Wifi to connect to the Internet/PSN?

I have been damn tempted by the fact there are Persona games on the system.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on November 17, 2012, 02:26:30 AM
No it's not a phone, the cellular connection is data-only, like how the iPad cellular versions work.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on November 17, 2012, 02:08:35 PM
You can't even play games online over the 3G (since 3G is slow as shit) so it's only real purpose is to allow web browsing on the go.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on November 18, 2012, 02:48:49 PM
What is this thing?
http://www.ouya.tv/

Add: Determined that Tactics Ogre will run on Vita, so I'm wondering if I can transfer my save.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on November 18, 2012, 03:02:58 PM
What is this thing?
http://www.ouya.tv/
The most hyped Kickstarter project of all time? :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on November 18, 2012, 05:31:46 PM
Yea, it's possible to transfer saves to the Vita from the PSP.
http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/52313/how-can-i-move-my-psp-game-saves-onto-my-ps-vita


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on November 18, 2012, 08:24:51 PM
I only link to NeoGaf because it's sorta funny.

Someone gets access to WiiU online admin access/areas entirely by accident. (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=500411)

Just read the first post. It is NeoGaf after all, so the rest of the topic is pretty much completely godawful gif-spam and white noise posting.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on November 24, 2012, 03:03:01 PM
Rab Florence wrote an angry blog post about rich & influential industry figures starting Kickstarters:

http://effingarcade.tumblr.com/post/36277287313/molyneux-and-fucking-kickstarter

He's got a point there, at some point it's all just a glorified preorder where the packaging is used to make people think they're special. Also it's a nice way to manage financial risk, having an army of not rich people take the potential fall.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on November 24, 2012, 10:08:36 PM
Isn't that what Kickstarter recently kinda came down on? Unfortunately I think that might apply to physical products only.

I'd say a lot of the old-timey game devs that came out of the woodwork to discover Kickstarter in the wake of the insane DoubleFine/Wasteland 2 ventures actually needed Kickstarter to get a product made (I could literally see Rob Lowe getting Al Bundy'd out the door of a publisher trying to sell another Leisure Suit Larry game after what happened with the last few), but fucking Molyneux?

Penny Arcade's Kickstarter was the first one that really fucking annoyed me. You dickslaps make probably a quarter to a half a mill a fucking month and run the conventions that make E3 seem quaint. You're literally shopping scripts to a kids CG movie that I think might've been greenlit and you're asking for a million fucking dollars to get rid of ADS?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on November 24, 2012, 11:29:00 PM
Who'd give Molyneaux money at this point?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Xanthippe on November 26, 2012, 10:08:38 AM
Who'd give Molyneaux money at this point?

Yep. It's like giving money to Romero. (Oh look, his Kickstarter was canceled, what a surprise).

But I don't get the rage here. Kickstarter isn't specially limited to only unknown or little people doing what they love; anyone can do it.

What's the problem with people who voluntarily want to throw their money at Molyneaux? I wouldn't do it, but I don't care if other people do. Nobody has to contribute to any Kickstarter. Sure, Molyneaux can come up with financing but maybe he doesn't want to have to be answerable to his investors.

People do all sorts of silly things. Do we need Rab Florence to protect us from ourselves in his self-righteous rage?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on November 26, 2012, 11:06:44 AM
Critics are hilarious.

1. For all the Molyneuxs and Romeros and Wing Commanders that build up pre-order/proof of interest for investors, there are thousands of great little projects and companies that get life breathed into them thanks to KS. I count that as a win.

2.
Quote
If people enjoy what you do and have made you in any way relevant in our culture, then YOU owe THEM something.

Go fuck yourself until you create something relevant in our culture. YOU owe ME one minute of my life wasted on stupid, misguided rage.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on November 26, 2012, 11:45:33 AM
...said Sky, wading knee deep in Kickstarter-bought miniatures.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on November 26, 2012, 02:08:30 PM
That's how I know Molyneux isn't 'destroying' the KS ideal.

If Andy Hopp can successfully release post-apocalyptic Twinkie warriors, the dream ain't dead.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Outlawedprod on November 27, 2012, 01:31:29 PM
Japanese game companies are so pro!
http://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/13glp8/sega_starts_quietly_removing_youtube_users_videos/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rattran on November 29, 2012, 11:04:50 AM
http://www.gamershell.com/news_146383.html (http://www.gamershell.com/news_146383.html)

Dragon Age 3, now coming in 2014, for next-nextgen consoles from Bioware MythicEA Shanghai. I'm sure this newslet interests one person here. And likely almost no one else.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on November 29, 2012, 11:05:41 AM
I can think of at least 3.   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on November 29, 2012, 11:14:11 AM
EA Shanghai guy doing some work on it != primary development happening in Shanghai. I know the writing team is basically the same as Origins and 2, so Gaider's group in Edmonton as usual.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on November 29, 2012, 12:02:13 PM
I thought DA3 was primarily being worked on by a team in Montreal, with some supervision from Edmonton?

Or was that Mass Effect 4 I'm thinking of? All these new Bioware RPGs I can't muster any enthusiasm for blend together for me now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on November 29, 2012, 12:09:48 PM
I think that is Mass Effect 4whatever-the-next-game-is, but I don't know for sure where the level and systems design and such for DA3 is happening. The writing team is the part I pay attention to as that's the part I care about most. I suspect they have bits and pieces of stuff farmed out to various studios, pretty sure they were already doing a lot of art in other places already on other games, for example.

We do have a DA3 thread where this could go, by the way!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rattran on November 29, 2012, 12:23:57 PM
But, it's more useless than anything else! Plus, I couldn't find the da3 thread.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sjofn on November 29, 2012, 08:40:40 PM
2014 is so far away.  :heartbreak:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on December 05, 2012, 04:02:06 AM
Somewhat interesting blog post by the writer of Wasteland 2 and Torment: http://colinmccomb.com/?p=157 (http://colinmccomb.com/?p=157)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on December 05, 2012, 05:23:02 PM
More like a writer of Torment, but still interesting.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rattran on December 06, 2012, 11:24:08 AM
http://www.creative-assembly.com/sega-and-creative-assembly-announce-partnership-with-games-workshop-to-create-warhammer-games/ (http://www.creative-assembly.com/sega-and-creative-assembly-announce-partnership-with-games-workshop-to-create-warhammer-games/)

Looks like EA got replaced the Warhammer Fantasy license to Sega/Creative Assembly (The Total War guys) I guess we get more Warhammer themed turd-in-a-box games to look forward to 'after 2013'


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on December 06, 2012, 11:51:45 AM
A Warhammer fantasy game with the Total War battle engine would be the tits.

We'll probably never see that though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on December 06, 2012, 11:56:49 AM
A Warhammer fantasy game with the Total War battle engine would be the tits.

We'll probably never see that though.

Why not? I would play it. I'm a TW Whore though. I'd play pretty much any TW IP. Total War: Wheel of Time? I'd still play it, even though I had to spend a lot of time wandering around the map waiting for something to happen.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on December 06, 2012, 11:59:30 AM
We probably won't see it because Games Workshop has a nasty habit of refusing to just do an digital adaptation of their tabletop games because they think it'll hurt the physical sales. Blood Bowl is a HUGE exception, mainly because Cyanide made a game that was actually a ripoff of Blood Bowl, got sued for infringement and part of the settlement was making Blood Bowl games.

Games Workshop are dicks, in short. And Total War: Warhammer would be too good for them to release.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: kildorn on December 06, 2012, 12:05:52 PM
Total War: Warhammer would totally work, too. The 15 minute load screens will accurately model people taking out the box of minis and setting up the table for a battle!

</stillbitter>


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on December 06, 2012, 12:24:04 PM
Then why sell it to Creative Assembly? The only successful things they've ever done were the Total War games. Have they even done anything else?

<Paelos goes to look at Wiki>

Looks like a crappy hack'n'slash game called Viking:Asgard, which I'd never heard of or played.
Spartan:Total Warrior, which I'd never heard of or played. Also a mediocre action game.
Oh, and a disaster of a game called "Stormrise" which was a console RTS; shockingly it had a shitty interface.

Yep, if they do anything BUT a Total War game, this is stupid.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on December 06, 2012, 12:37:48 PM
2014 is so far away.  :heartbreak:

I know, right??  Why do they do that to us?  They shouldn't announce something we want to play until moments before it's released.  It's cruel and unkind foreplay that only gets the sadistic developer off and leaves us frustrated and depressed.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shannow on December 07, 2012, 11:01:18 PM
EA is having some sort of sale with 40% off everything. Useful for picking up that copy of Fifa 13 for the nephews for Christmas. Cause its EA and evil I won't actually put up a link.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on December 08, 2012, 04:11:10 AM
Total War: Warhammer would totally work, too. The 15 minute load screens will accurately model people taking out the box of minis and setting up the table for a battle!

</stillbitter>

Just give me Dark Omen that's updated to today's (or last 5 years) level of graphics etc and I'd be very happy  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on December 09, 2012, 07:27:33 AM
Dark Souls 2 is coming!

Quote
[Dark Souls II] will be more straightforward and more understandable.

There's already a huge slapfight over it on Neogaf: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=503292


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on December 18, 2012, 11:36:58 AM
So, according to the Maxis dev AMA on Reddit (http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/14umm1/we_are_the_simcity_dev_team_from_maxis_amaa/c7gnxdy), the next Sim City will have always-on DRM like Diablo 3.  Naturally my interest in the game went from 'Day 1!' to 'Fuck this shit'.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on December 18, 2012, 12:39:05 PM
It's also got always-on multiplayer (hence the DRM), because what I always want in a SimCity game is a half-dozen other chucklefucks in surrounding towns fucking around with me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ceryse on December 18, 2012, 01:23:28 PM
Yeah.... no.

Sim City, for me, would be utterly ruined by that kind of forced multiplayer. Thankfully, despite some interest, I'd already written off the possibility of getting it because of, well, Origin.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 18, 2012, 02:07:32 PM
Apparently there's a new Space Hulk video game in the making.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on December 18, 2012, 02:14:51 PM
Apparently there's a new Space Hulk video game in the making.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/12/10/space-hulk-space-hulk-space-hulk-space-hulk/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shannow on December 18, 2012, 02:30:22 PM
spacehulkspacehulkspacehulk? I hope it has gameplay like the original honestly....tactical top down, pause and give orders etc.

I remember that mission where all you had was chain guns , which only got like 10 shots and you had to pick up ammo on the way. twas a hard game. early 1990s ftw!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on December 18, 2012, 02:49:13 PM
It's going to have gameplay like the board game, if there is any good at all in the world.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on December 18, 2012, 04:13:43 PM
EA loses spot on the Nasdaq-100

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/12/17/ea-loses-spot-on-the-nasdaq-100/

Looks like the failure of TOR is hurting pretty bad.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on December 18, 2012, 04:36:20 PM
Why are they putting Facebook in there?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on December 19, 2012, 01:11:15 PM
THQ files for bankruptcy  :uhrr:
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/12/19/thq-bankruptcy-sale/ (http://www.joystiq.com/2012/12/19/thq-bankruptcy-sale/)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on December 19, 2012, 01:42:51 PM
Why are they putting Facebook in there?

Isn't it just based on market cap?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on December 19, 2012, 04:14:47 PM
Why are they putting Facebook in there?

Isn't it just based on market cap?

Probably, but I think the real value of that stock is around 10B. Not 60B. I can't really see how the hell they can maintain a stock price above $10 with a P/E ratio of 254. I mean hell, ATVI has a P/E of 14 and it's getting bad press. I don't understand the market sometimes.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Xanthippe on December 19, 2012, 07:32:27 PM
Brenda Romero (née Braithwaite), game designer for the Wizardry series and author of Sex in Video Games, named first game designer in residence at UC Santa Cruz. (http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/localnews/ci_22218678/brenda-romero-named-first-game-designer-residence-at)

I have nothing to add, having no experience with any game she's worked on.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Zetor on December 20, 2012, 12:09:18 AM
You may also know her as Brenda Garno/Garneau, she was one of the prominent Sir-Tech people. AFAIK she worked on all games in the Wizardry series; started as a writer+tester and ended up as the lead designer on Wizardry 8. She also worked a fair bit on Jagged Alliance 2.

RIP Sir-Tech, btw... still my favorite dev (and sometimes publisher) house to this day.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on December 20, 2012, 12:21:00 PM
Brenda Romero now? Wait, you can't mean...

Quote
Romero is currently married to developer Brenda Brathwaite.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Romero#Personal_life

No accounting for taste I guess!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on December 20, 2012, 01:57:06 PM
Hopefully she made him her bitch.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on December 20, 2012, 03:10:33 PM
Last time I saw Romero he was hanging out with some floozy in Austin. This was 2008 or so. Whatever. They can make mediocre games together.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Gets on January 05, 2013, 06:28:30 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/excavators-head-myanmar-wwii-spitfires-152507234.html

Quote
Along the way he found an unlikely ally, a Belarusian company called Wargaming.net best known for its multiplayer titles including "World of Warplanes" and "World of Tanks." The company's American director of special projects, Tracy Spaight, said he got his company involved after hearing about the Spitfires in the news, promising $500,000 toward the dig and up to another $500,000 if the Spitfires were found.
Company spokesman Frazer Nash batted away repeated questions about what the video game maker in the country known as Europe's last dictatorship hoped to get out of the deal, saying the company had an "open bucket" to dispense cash if the dig was a success.
"Money's not an issue," he told journalists. "Have you seen the profits for gaming?"
The reporters seemed mollified.
"Can I have a job?" one asked.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on January 19, 2013, 12:31:06 AM
So it looks like Gas Powered Games is finally... out of gas.

 :drill:

No, but seriously, Chris Taylor's fired a bunch of people (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/185086/Gas_Powered_Games_forced_into_layoffs_as_cash_runs_low.php#.UPo9QtdRpyU). The company's nearly completely broke and the last-ditch Kitckstarter was looking like a flop.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on January 19, 2013, 12:48:17 AM
That's kind of a shame.  I was just playing SC: FA too.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on January 19, 2013, 08:52:58 AM
For some reason I thought he was working on Planetary Annihilation, but I guess that is another team.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Gets on January 21, 2013, 07:33:18 AM
I'd be upset, but Space Siege and Dungeon Siege 3 were the closest I've come to feeling like someone cheated on me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on January 22, 2013, 01:16:40 AM
I'd be upset, but Space Siege and Dungeon Siege 3 were the closest I've come to feeling like someone cheated on me.

DS3 = Obsidian.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Outlawedprod on January 23, 2013, 01:23:02 PM
So it looks like Gas Powered Games is finally... out of gas.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-01-22-gas-powered-games-had-multiple-projects-canned-last-minute-by-publishers

Quote
You need people to really slam their fist; guys like Steve Jobs, you know, who are a**holes because they believe so vehemently in what they're doing they will f***ing - f*** bending the spoon with their mind, they'll just snatch it out of your hand and bend it in half and stuff it up your ass! Take that! Let's get back to work!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 23, 2013, 04:20:23 PM
God just, who cares.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 24, 2013, 10:27:42 AM
But, you know, Total Annihilation.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on January 24, 2013, 02:23:02 PM
Total Annihilation!   :heart:

Man, all I want is a nicely updated version of that.  Plus an updated Master of Magic.

Edit:  AND A GODDAMN PONY TOO!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on January 24, 2013, 02:27:42 PM
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/82533/headshot.gif)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on January 24, 2013, 03:30:53 PM
That is not on the list.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on February 06, 2013, 09:58:35 AM
Wasn't sure where to put this, but it seems that Games Workshop are trying to stop other people calling things 'Space Marines' (http://boingboing.net/2013/02/06/games-workshop-trademark-bully.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)

 :uhrr:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 06, 2013, 10:00:04 AM
Of course they are.  I'm glad I don't use any of their products or services.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on February 06, 2013, 10:52:38 AM
Games Workshop really ae one big gaggle of dicks.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 06, 2013, 02:20:14 PM
Yes.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fordel on February 06, 2013, 02:39:00 PM
That's not even possible is it? I'm no lawyer man or anything, but don't trademarks needs to be more specific then that?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on February 06, 2013, 02:55:25 PM
This particular case is Games Workshop telling a self publishing author to cease and desist or lawyers will eat her soul.

Given that, it's unlikely she can fight it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on February 06, 2013, 03:40:28 PM
I guess GW needs a new business model since they are top of the 'Companies most likely to be wiped out by the advent of 3D printing' list.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on February 06, 2013, 03:41:22 PM
Actually it's not even that. GW convinced Amazon to pull it even though Amazon didn't have to cause it's not under DMCA (DMCA "safe harbor" is for copyright infringement not trademark infringement).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on February 06, 2013, 04:05:51 PM
What is the diference?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on February 06, 2013, 04:25:04 PM
Hey I know let's consult the author in question.  Oh, she has a legal battle on her hands that she can't afford to fight for a case she'd be able to win if she only had the money, as "prior art" would pretty much be the end of any GW case. (http://mcahogarth.org/?p=10593)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on February 06, 2013, 05:05:52 PM
Interesting, thanks.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bzalthek on February 08, 2013, 06:27:50 AM
Is there a site that shows projected release dates for upcoming games.  I open a thread and get kinda excited then notice it's due out in a year or two.  Then I kick a puppy. 

Like how we have such a feature here at F13 for MMOs.  (The Gaming Graveyard)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 08, 2013, 09:27:48 AM
We don't seem to have time to manage such things.  Even NiX has gotten too busy now that he's in high school.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 08, 2013, 09:42:04 AM
It's just not worth managing such things.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bzalthek on February 08, 2013, 10:21:23 AM
Oh I understand that, I just wondered if there was some site "out there" which might do it.  I'll do some googling when I finish out this week's homework, just wondering if someone else knew off the top of their head.

And wait, NIX is in high school?  wat


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 08, 2013, 10:25:08 AM
He is hoping the mustache will start growing in a couple years.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on February 08, 2013, 01:44:52 PM
Even NiX has gotten too busy now that he's in high school.
Yeg just won the Useless Gaming thread.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 09, 2013, 10:27:35 PM
http://www.tothegame.com/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on February 11, 2013, 05:57:24 PM
Are we not talking about the Feb 20 Sony "change the way you play" announcement?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bzalthek on February 11, 2013, 06:24:02 PM
http://www.tothegame.com/

You are an incredible manbeast Sky.  I don't care what everyone else says about you.  Thank you sir!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 11, 2013, 08:39:35 PM
No, that's pretty much what they all say.

I was surprised to see that site still live, I used it over ten years ago pretty regularly.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on February 11, 2013, 09:38:09 PM
Are we not talking about the Feb 20 Sony "change the way you play" announcement?

Everyone thinks it'll be the PS4, I predict it'll be yet another skew on the PS3. Maybe the PS3 THIN!!!!!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on February 11, 2013, 10:30:54 PM
A 4th PS3 model? They already have the super slim or whatever. A new Vita and/or a Vita price drop would be my guess if it's not the PS4.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bzalthek on February 11, 2013, 10:59:18 PM
Playstation Fleshlight

Heard it here first folks!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on February 12, 2013, 02:48:37 AM
Playstation Fleshlight

Heard it here first folks!
That's actually already a thing (NSFW). (http://kotaku.com/5982725/a-penis+powered-controller-that-looks-familiar)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on February 12, 2013, 03:44:33 AM
Hey I know let's consult the author in question.  Oh, she has a legal battle on her hands that she can't afford to fight for a case she'd be able to win if she only had the money, as "prior art" would pretty much be the end of any GW case. (http://mcahogarth.org/?p=10593)
Someone should start a Kickstarter for legal fees, if only to watch GW shit themselves and pay her off.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 12, 2013, 10:02:45 AM
Whatever Sony's announcement will be, it will be shitty.  A PS3.5 with fewer features perhaps, or some forced-upgrade shit, or the PS4 which would really be a PS3.5 anyway... hard to tell.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on February 12, 2013, 11:50:48 AM
Whatever Sony's announcement will be, it will be shitty.  A PS3.5 with fewer features perhaps, or some forced-upgrade shit, or the PS4 which would really be a PS3.5 anyway... hard to tell.

That's the rumor mill's best guess.  PS3.5


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bzalthek on February 12, 2013, 11:56:23 AM
Playstation Fleshlight

Heard it here first folks!
That's actually already a thing (NSFW). (http://kotaku.com/5982725/a-penis+powered-controller-that-looks-familiar)

I... Um...  Wow. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Outlawedprod on February 12, 2013, 12:54:12 PM
Hey I know let's consult the author in question.  Oh, she has a legal battle on her hands that she can't afford to fight for a case she'd be able to win if she only had the money, as "prior art" would pretty much be the end of any GW case. (http://mcahogarth.org/?p=10593)

Supposedly this was their stance in 1978
http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/67991_556088641075937_25322784_n.jpg

How times change.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on February 12, 2013, 09:10:03 PM
Whatever Sony's announcement will be, it will be shitty.  A PS3.5 with fewer features perhaps, or some forced-upgrade shit, or the PS4 which would really be a PS3.5 anyway... hard to tell.

That's the rumor mill's best guess.  PS3.5
I literally have no idea why they would make a PS3.5; what would that even entail? There are already 3 different PS3 models (really more than 10 if you count different HDs and such), one of which is less than 6 months old; what could they possibly add to the system that would justify a new purchase outside of an actual new system? PS2 backwards compatibility again? At this point, why even bother? And what else do people wish their PS3 did that it doesn't do already? No, there won't be a PS3.5 because that'd be fucking stupid and we already got the closest thing to it with the super slim model. If this announcement isn't the PS4 it's going to be a huge disappointment.

What I've heard is that there's going to be a new 4G Vita coming out to replace the 3G with some minor redesigns on the system (including a possible HDMI out), and a price drop on memory cards. I'm not sure if that announcement is coming on the 20th or during E3 but I'm reasonably sure it's happening this year.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 13, 2013, 08:47:22 AM
You see, it probably would be called a PS4 but I'd wonder if it deserved the increment.  Version numbers became marketing tools quite a number of years ago.  I can't imagine any actual features which would require a purchase, so I'm betting on it being a manufacturing overhaul to save cash, coupled with some sort of Vita/PSN/DRM updates.  Also note the PS3 is basically open to pirates now, and a new machine would mitigate that going forward.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maledict on February 13, 2013, 10:43:23 AM
The rumour mill here regarding the Sony announcement is completely different to somewhere so will be interesting to see which is true.

Generally assumed the announcement is the new PS4, running a completely different chip set that allows for much easier coding rather than the attrocious cell processor. Graphics power is supposed to be looking at 1080p at60fps (which makes sense given where pc graphics cards currently are compared to the current cnonsole generation).

Zero backwards compatibility due to the change in chipset, and headline launch games to include Killzone 4 in 2013. New console ships in Japan and USA this year, and Europe early next year. (Cause Sony hates its biggest market).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on February 14, 2013, 03:28:47 AM
Jesse Schell: Releasing a demo harms your game sales (http://www.pcgamesn.com/article/jesse-schell-releasing-demo-harms-your-game-sales)

Article is mostly just a link to the original presentation, so no easy quoting. I'll sum it up a bit:

Average Sales for X-Box games:

no Demo, no Trailer: 100k
     Demo, no Trailer: 200k
     Demo,     Trailer: 250k
no Demo,      Trailer: 500k

'Wait, we spent all this money creating a demo and getting it out there and it cut our sales in half? Yes, that's exactly what happened to you.'

Reasoning: Marketing creates a wish, "an utopia" in the players mind, often this demand is often met by playing the demo, is there no demo the player has no choice but to by the game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bzalthek on February 14, 2013, 03:58:18 AM
I always thought that was because the demo showed what a bunch of bullshit they've been feeding you with the trailers.  So, no demo with trailer option really turns into get as many sales as possible before people find out.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on February 14, 2013, 04:58:22 AM
Seems a little like leaping to conclusions for me. The stuff they know is going to sell a million copies never needs a demo.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Zetor on February 14, 2013, 05:01:39 AM
Sort of related, but I found this talk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIaifvx0e9Q) by Dave Gilbert (developer of the Blackwell series, publisher of Gemini Rue / Resonance / Primordia) pretty interesting... could be worth a look if you're interested what it takes to make/market/publish a point-and-click retro adventure game nowadays and why throwing more money at an adventure game's graphical assets doesn't necessarily make everything better.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on February 14, 2013, 06:29:38 AM
I think a demo for a bad game just helps some people see it's bad. A great game, on the other hand, doesn't need a demo generally because word of mouth is such a strong selling force among gamers. The only time I can see a demo helping a game is a great game that comes from such an obscure source that the demo is needed to get it attention. I suppose you could say that Minecraft's alpha and early beta builds were sorta kinda an example of that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on February 14, 2013, 08:26:31 AM
 So lie till day 1 release = more sales?  :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on February 14, 2013, 09:42:29 AM
The problem with that strategy is that it usually only works once.  Usually.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 14, 2013, 11:14:36 AM
Ask DICE about the value of a demo.

If you have a fun game and can show it off in a limited form that makes people want more. Demo.

If not, probably better to skip the demo.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on February 14, 2013, 06:40:50 PM
Seems a little like leaping to conclusions for me. The stuff they know is going to sell a million copies never needs a demo.

This. It's quite a stretch to take those numbers and reach that conclusion. In general though conventional wisdom is that you should have a demo if you need visibility, not if you already have it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: BLUND on February 14, 2013, 08:49:15 PM
A demo of a bad game will lower sales.
A demo of a good game will raise sales.
There are way more bad games than good games.
Therefore, on average, demos will lower sales, but on an individual basis, the deciding factor is quality.

...or a COD logo.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on February 15, 2013, 11:34:03 AM
So apparently Watch Dogs is coming out for 'all home consoles' this year according to some 'leaked' sales materials:

(http://i.imgur.com/ObZtr5r.jpg)

This was easily the highlight of E3 2012 for me, so here's hoping, anyway.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on February 27, 2013, 06:14:18 AM
Sqeenix trademarks the name 'Deus Ex: Human Defiance' (http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/27/deus-ex-human-defiance-trademark-spotted?abthid=512de0c06a37c0a20f000003)

Not sure what this relates to, a game, a WiiU port, or possibly a movie, but it's something.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 27, 2013, 07:56:33 AM
I forgot I was going to do this, but I just tested ShadowHearts 2 in PCSX2 v1.0.0 and I'm happy to report that moving from a Radeon HD 4870 to a GTX 650 has eliminated all issues with the opening cinematics.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Outlawedprod on February 27, 2013, 02:53:35 PM
Blizzard to show something new at PAX East.

Quote
As mentioned in the invite, this is a little something, different from what we’ve previously announced or talked about, and not a sequel, etc,
http://www.penny-arcade.com/report/editorial-article/yep-blizzard-is-showing-something-new-and-interesting-at-pax-east

Call of Duty Warcraft edition or mobile game imo.  Pick your poison wisely =p


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on February 27, 2013, 02:54:54 PM
I'm going to go with the wild speculation that they see Wildstar/Archeage as a threat and it's time to start the Project Titan hype machine FOR REALZ!   :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on February 27, 2013, 04:11:03 PM
Not a sequel? Well there go my dreams of seeing a modern version of Battle Chess.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 28, 2013, 08:31:09 AM
There is an animated chess on the iphone.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Miasma on February 28, 2013, 09:10:42 AM
I'm going to go with the wild speculation that they see Wildstar/Archeage as a threat and it's time to start the Project Titan hype machine FOR REALZ!   :why_so_serious:
They said it's not going to be their "rumoured next gen mmo" so yeah probably some sort of mobile game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on February 28, 2013, 09:12:31 AM
Yeah, and I'm still waiting on SC: Ghost.  We've been lied to before; anything is possible if you just BELIEVE!   :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on February 28, 2013, 10:04:07 AM
I'm still waiting on Warcraft Adventures.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: apocrypha on February 28, 2013, 10:53:06 AM
It's going to be a mobile game of some sort I think. Possibly a port or remake of something old.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on March 01, 2013, 01:35:06 AM
So after months of suffering through increasingly annoying visual artifacting, video driver crashes, etc with my newish computer, I bit the bullet and swapped in a new graphics card, figuring it pretty much had to be a hardware problem since no driver could be THAT buggy. 

It is AMAZING how much easier cases have gotten.  While I had the thing open I wanted to move the HD over from my old system (which I've been meaning to do for a year now).  Opening the old Antec case up to get the drive out, while much nicer than PCs of ten years ago (drive cage slides out, rather than having to disassemble the entire case to get at the drive), was like opening the Lament Configuration compared to my newer Alienware.  Open door, pop drive directly into waiting bay, close door.  The case even has (battery-powered) lights that come on when you open the door so you can see what you're doing.

And so far the new card (GTX 650 Ti) seems to have completely fixed all the horrible problems.   :drill:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phred on March 01, 2013, 03:05:22 AM
Yeah, and I'm still waiting on SC: Ghost.  We've been lied to before; anything is possible if you just BELIEVE!   :grin:

I guess I'm getting old but I remember when Ghost was pointed to as an example of Blizzard's integrity, not their dishonesty.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on March 01, 2013, 03:13:31 AM
Yeah, and I'm still waiting on SC: Ghost.  We've been lied to before; anything is possible if you just BELIEVE!   :grin:

I guess I'm getting old but I remember when Ghost was pointed to as an example of Blizzard's integrity, not their dishonesty.



Yeah this example doesn't work at all, Luckton.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on March 01, 2013, 08:15:04 AM
So, I've always been (VERY) clumsy with gamepads and I feel a lot of modern joysticks are like bulky spaceships :P. A few days ago, I purchased this:

(http://www.itsmart.gr/images/products/SPL/0384/SPEEDLINK_SL-6603-SPORTS-2.jpg)

I'm trying it right now and it feels simply GREAT and solid.

What's also nice for a "gaming enthusiast" like me it's the AMIGA collection (that you can play via the already included and installed emulator) that comes with it (on some online shops you also find a version with C64 games). Among other titles:

- Some Cinemaware titles (It Came from the Desert, Defender of the Crown, TV Sports Basketball and Football, Lords of the Rising Sun. Surely the highlights of the collection!)
- Goal (Dino Dini sequel to Kick Off 2)
- Paperboy
- Grand Monster Slam

There are also re-mastered versions of Epyx's Summer and Winter games, but they only come in german language.

Finally I can start re-playing the Wing Commander saga (among other stuff) with a serious joystick   :drill: :heart:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on March 01, 2013, 04:08:09 PM
It's going to be a mobile game of some sort I think. Possibly a port or remake of something old.
Rock n Roll Racing iOS/Android port on a freemium model.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shannow on March 01, 2013, 08:34:21 PM
Looks awesome Lucas.  That style of joystick was my favourie on the c64.   Mind you playing summer games is probably the quicker way known to kill a joystick


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Xuri on March 01, 2013, 09:25:59 PM
I preferred the ZipStick. Looks similar to the competition pro, just more awesome. Yellow, square buttons that seemed to be able to take more of a beating than the competition pro's, and could also survive being repeatedly thrown into walls. :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on March 14, 2013, 05:39:21 PM
Everyone knows that The Bug was the Joystick of Champions, right?

Anyway....

(http://i.minus.com/ibwCA1lqqbDKoA.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on March 14, 2013, 05:52:12 PM
Yay, it's an announcement of an announcement!  :uhrr:



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on March 14, 2013, 08:59:41 PM
Posted 1 page ago, sans picture.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 15, 2013, 07:52:05 AM
Quote from: Blizzard
hurr

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/85916/batman_cant_find_a_fuck.gif)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on March 15, 2013, 10:04:35 AM
So Saints Row 4 is coming on August 20 (http://www.joystiq.com/2013/03/15/saints-row-4-release-date-august-20/).  Superpowers, aliens and you're the President.  It's seemingly more like SR3.5, as you got to use superpowers in one of the xpacks for 3 and it definitely looks really similar, but more Saints Row isn't a bad thing.

Teaser here (http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/onchxe/saints-row-4-debut-teaser)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on March 15, 2013, 02:40:17 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/hEpaQm7l.jpg)
Sold.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on March 16, 2013, 07:13:15 PM
I'm going to guess the Blizzard announcement is their DOTA game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: goishen on March 17, 2013, 10:28:45 PM
Whatever it is, I expect it to be beautiful and have a craptastic story.  Hey, look, another Blizzard game.  From the 1990's, when we didn't care at all about story lines.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on March 18, 2013, 08:57:44 AM
I'm going to guess the Blizzard announcement is their DOTA game.

If so, they should have realized the horse was out of the barn on that one about a year ago.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on March 18, 2013, 09:27:33 AM
The new speculation regarding Blizzard is that it's an online interpretation of the WoW TCG.  I might actually bite at that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Miasma on March 18, 2013, 03:39:37 PM
John Riccitiello is stepping down as EA's CEO. (http://business.financialpost.com/2013/03/18/electronic-arts-ceo-john-riccitiello-to-step-down-march-30/)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on March 18, 2013, 05:10:09 PM
The new speculation regarding Blizzard is that it's an online interpretation of the WoW TCG.  I might actually bite at that.
Let it be playable from inside WoW, put digital versions of the WoW prize cards in the booster packs. C'mon Blizzard, copy SOE one more time.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on March 19, 2013, 01:47:37 AM
Two games announced which I would be excited about if I hadn't become so jaded:
-Might&Magic 10 (http://www.joystiq.com/2013/03/18/might-and-magic-x-reveal-at-pax-east-teased-by-ubisoft/)
-turn-based Warhammer 40K game (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/03/18/waaagh-face-slitherine-announce-turn-based-40k-game/)

Might&Magics (not the heroes kind) have been some of my favorite games from the second one onward though by the ninth they had become trash and 40K as a turn-based strategy game could be awesome.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 19, 2013, 09:20:33 AM
I would love a 40k TBS. Since it's a turned base game. We have rules for that!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tgr on March 19, 2013, 09:27:34 AM
John Riccitiello is stepping down as EA's CEO. (http://business.financialpost.com/2013/03/18/electronic-arts-ceo-john-riccitiello-to-step-down-march-30/)
Posted this in the Sim City thread, but I think it's relevant here as well:
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-03-19-peter-moore-kotaku-reveling-in-self-smugness-over-riccitiello-resignation


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on March 19, 2013, 09:40:04 AM
I completed M&M 7, avoided 8, didn't even know there was a 9.  Can't say I'm terribly excited about a new M&M.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on March 19, 2013, 11:36:37 AM
I would love a 40k TBS. Since it's a turned base game. We have rules for that!

40k Turn-based? JUST SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY ALREADY!!!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: cironian on March 19, 2013, 01:21:41 PM
I would love a 40k TBS. Since it's a turned base game. We have rules for that!

40k Turn-based? JUST SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY ALREADY!!!

Seems like a sure winner from the announcement, so the question is: How will they mess this one up? My money is on them making it "more accessible" by throwing the licensed unit graphics into a half-baked dumbed down ruleset. :popcorn:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on March 19, 2013, 01:27:39 PM
The 40k game is going to be "simultaneous release on iPad and PC" so I don't expect it to be tremendously complex.

EDIT: On the other hand I just realized who Slitherine is. Hmmm. Almost makes me wonder if it will be a strategic-level 40k game rather than unit-level, I don't think we've seen one of those ever?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on March 19, 2013, 01:37:35 PM
The 40k game is going to be "simultaneous release on iPad and PC" so I don't expect it to be tremendously complex.

EDIT: On the other hand I just realized who Slitherine is. Hmmm. Almost makes me wonder if it will be a strategic-level 40k game rather than unit-level, I don't think we've seen one of those ever?

While Slitherine's products haven't really amazed me so far, they atleast know how to make a proper turn based strategy game. I just hope they won't water it down too much to appeal to the main stream (and to make it work on ipad). I wish someone (like Paradox) would make a game like HoI2 that is either fantasy or scifi (with somewhat random events to replace the historical ww2 stuff)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: cironian on March 19, 2013, 03:00:55 PM
Hmm, I wasn't aware of the name before, but it looks like you are right about them knowing their strategy. Still, I'll keep my expectations low and just see what the initial reviews say.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 19, 2013, 05:34:58 PM
How will they mess this one up?
Maybe they could give that license to Cyanide?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on March 19, 2013, 08:56:00 PM
How will they mess this one up?
Maybe they could give that license to Cyanide?

(http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/smiles/orson_welles_clap.gif)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on March 19, 2013, 08:58:54 PM
The 40k game is going to be "simultaneous release on iPad and PC" so I don't expect it to be tremendously complex.

EDIT: On the other hand I just realized who Slitherine is. Hmmm. Almost makes me wonder if it will be a strategic-level 40k game rather than unit-level, I don't think we've seen one of those ever?

While Slitherine's products haven't really amazed me so far, they atleast know how to make a proper turn based strategy game. I just hope they won't water it down too much to appeal to the main stream (and to make it work on ipad). I wish someone (like Paradox) would make a game like HoI2 that is either fantasy or scifi (with somewhat random events to replace the historical ww2 stuff)

Meh, if Paradox is doing it, you can be sure they're going to go with stripped down vanillas and then throwing 'minor features packs' at it for $10.00 every quarter year basis...
I'm kinda annoyed they did that, but I bought them at sales price that totals around $10-20, which is pretty good for a 100-hr game.

But the DLC policy is definitely driving me away from Day 1 purchase.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on March 20, 2013, 01:03:06 PM
The 40k game is going to be "simultaneous release on iPad and PC" so I don't expect it to be tremendously complex.

EDIT: On the other hand I just realized who Slitherine is. Hmmm. Almost makes me wonder if it will be a strategic-level 40k game rather than unit-level, I don't think we've seen one of those ever?

While Slitherine's products haven't really amazed me so far, they atleast know how to make a proper turn based strategy game. I just hope they won't water it down too much to appeal to the main stream (and to make it work on ipad). I wish someone (like Paradox) would make a game like HoI2 that is either fantasy or scifi (with somewhat random events to replace the historical ww2 stuff)

Meh, if Paradox is doing it, you can be sure they're going to go with stripped down vanillas and then throwing 'minor features packs' at it for $10.00 every quarter year basis...
I'm kinda annoyed they did that, but I bought them at sales price that totals around $10-20, which is pretty good for a 100-hr game.

But the DLC policy is definitely driving me away from Day 1 purchase.

 :headscratch:

I don't know where you're getting Paradox into the mix. Slitherine self-publishes.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Segoris on March 20, 2013, 02:09:31 PM
The 40k game is going to be "simultaneous release on iPad and PC" so I don't expect it to be tremendously complex.

EDIT: On the other hand I just realized who Slitherine is. Hmmm. Almost makes me wonder if it will be a strategic-level 40k game rather than unit-level, I don't think we've seen one of those ever?

While Slitherine's products haven't really amazed me so far, they atleast know how to make a proper turn based strategy game. I just hope they won't water it down too much to appeal to the main stream (and to make it work on ipad). I wish someone (like Paradox) would make a game like HoI2 that is either fantasy or scifi (with somewhat random events to replace the historical ww2 stuff)

Meh, if Paradox is doing it, you can be sure they're going to go with stripped down vanillas and then throwing 'minor features packs' at it for $10.00 every quarter year basis...
I'm kinda annoyed they did that, but I bought them at sales price that totals around $10-20, which is pretty good for a 100-hr game.

But the DLC policy is definitely driving me away from Day 1 purchase.

 :headscratch:

I don't know where you're getting Paradox into the mix. Slitherine self-publishes.

I'm guessing in the quote he was responding to. Just a hunch. :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on March 21, 2013, 12:35:10 PM
M&M X announcement trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=V5r6M8ElBXY)

I think I might actually be looking forward to this if they actually stick to the "old-school" (and make a proper pc game)  :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on March 21, 2013, 01:26:18 PM
First-person and  turn-based? ...from Ubisoft ?

Cautiously optimistic.

Edit: This is apparently being developed by the German Limbic Entertainment, whose only titles I recognize (in a very small catalog) are the two expasnions for Heroes of Might & Magic VI. Were those any good?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on March 22, 2013, 09:48:20 AM
The new speculation regarding Blizzard is that it's an online interpretation of the WoW TCG.  I might actually bite at that.

HOLY SHIT.  INTERNET RUMORS ARE TRUE!

http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/

 :drill:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 22, 2013, 10:07:03 AM
I don't know, it specifically says that it is for everyone.  I don't usually like games that are made for everyone.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 22, 2013, 10:17:09 AM
This is not the WoW TCG. It's not even an interpretation of it as far as I can tell. I don't understand why they're doing this.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on March 22, 2013, 10:18:45 AM
Micro-transactions for booster packs.

i.e. lots and lots of money from mobile gamers.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 22, 2013, 10:19:48 AM
Sure, but they could've done that by just translating the generally accepted as "this is the only alternative to Magic" to mobile platforms. They wouldn't even have to do card design if they'd just done the WoW TCG.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on March 28, 2013, 04:38:17 PM
Chinese copyright infringement game of the day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjrjZc5tfRI
Project Tank!

(It's totally not World of Tanks in a browser, nosirree!)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on April 01, 2013, 06:59:58 PM
So...is this like the first year that Blizzard didn't actually do something for April Fool's Day?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 02, 2013, 08:19:27 AM
No one gives half a turd about their shenanigans.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on April 02, 2013, 09:12:36 AM
So...is this like the first year that Blizzard didn't actually do something for April Fool's Day?

They did a Starcraft 2 joke, but really only people who participated in HotS beta or followed the balance patches would get it. 

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/9369235/Situation_Report_--_April_1_2013-3_31_2013


It was actually accompanied by your worker units having a chance to spawn as little mini warhounds in multiplayer games (they had the normal stats of workers, they just changed the model).

Kind of weak.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on April 02, 2013, 11:43:23 AM
So...is this like the first year that Blizzard didn't actually do something for April Fool's Day?
The last year has been the joke.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Salamok on April 04, 2013, 09:23:55 AM
So is Zynga dipping it's toe into online gambling (http://arstechnica.com/business/2013/04/zynga-launches-real-money-online-gambling-stock-price-surges/) of any significance.  Part of me thinks this will be hugely profitable but then again it isn't something many others aren't already doing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 05, 2013, 08:34:00 AM
Not shocking.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Miasma on April 05, 2013, 09:39:22 AM
Is that the company where people figured out they were manipulating the cards dealt in their non gambling rmt version of poker so that you had to buy more chips?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on April 05, 2013, 03:46:56 PM
http://www.ea.com/news/we-can-do-better?websso=1

Good job Consumerist, your stupid fucking poll's given EA the room to thump its chest and not look completely unsympathetic doing so.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on April 05, 2013, 03:48:24 PM
That poll is so  :uhrr:. Good job internet people.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on April 05, 2013, 03:50:59 PM
I guess the creative director at Microsoft Studios does not get why anyone would mind having an 'always on' console. He tweeted some stupid comments, some people called him on it and now he has marked everything private. Apparently the whole SimCity debacle was no big deal to him.

Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2013/04/05/microsoft-creative-director-on-always-online-consoles-deal-with-it/)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Quinton on April 06, 2013, 01:53:49 PM
Microsoft PR attempts to calm people down, without actually addressing the always-on issue:

Quote
“We apologize for the inappropriate comments made by an employee on Twitter yesterday. This person is not a spokesperson for Microsoft, and his personal views do not reflect the customer centric approach we take to our products or how we would communicate directly with our loyal consumers.  We are very sorry if this offended anyone, however we have not made any announcements about our product roadmap, and have no further comment on this matter.”

http://majornelson.com/2013/04/05/official-statement-on-what-was-said-yesterday/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on April 06, 2013, 06:40:48 PM
Microsoft PR attempts to calm people down, without actually addressing the always-on issue:

Quote
“We apologize for the inappropriate comments made by an employee on Twitter yesterday. This person is not a spokesperson for Microsoft, and his personal views do not reflect the customer centric approach we take to our products or how we would communicate directly with our loyal consumers.  We are very sorry if this offended anyone, however we have not made any announcements about our product roadmap, and have no further comment on this matter.”

http://majornelson.com/2013/04/05/official-statement-on-what-was-said-yesterday/

I posted the twitter exchange in the funny pic thread.

Would love to be in the room when Balmer gives this guy a good dressing down... :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on April 06, 2013, 09:23:52 PM
Enh, Balmer wouldn't scare me right now.  If he tried, I'd just start repeating, "Windows 8" over and over.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on April 08, 2013, 06:10:58 AM
Interview with Paul Thurott about the new Xbox. Youtube (starting 54m44s) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01qrzaZg7_g#t=54m44)

Some highlights:

  • With Xbox720 introduction a new Xbox360, codename 'Stingray' will launched. Pricepoint 99$.
  • Due to this Thurott speculates the 720 wont be downward compatible.
  • Price will be in the range of 500$ or 300$ plus subscription.
  • Always on requirement confirmed.
  • Presentation will be on 21st May (originally planed 24th April).
  • MS sees Apple as their main competition, not Sony or Nintendo.
  • Market for 'people who always buy next Gears of War, Halo, COD & sit with controller in front of TV at night is finite' 'Market for little mobile games, facebook games is billions'
  • 'Hardcore gamer types will always buy what they release, but mass market won't spend 500 bucks on a device that sits in your living room' thus:
  • Multimedia-only version (non-gaming device, codename 'Yuma') of the Xbox already in planning.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on April 08, 2013, 08:17:58 AM
Interview with Paul Thurott about the new Xbox. Youtube (starting 54m44s) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01qrzaZg7_g#t=54m44)

Some highlights:

  • With Xbox720 introduction a new Xbox360, codename 'Stingray' will launched. Pricepoint 99$.
  • Due to this Thurott speculates the 720 wont be downward compatible.
  • Price will be in the range of 500$ or 300$ plus subscription.
  • Always on requirement confirmed.
  • Presentation will be on 21st May (originally planed 24th April).
  • MS sees Apple as their main competition, not Sony or Nintendo.
  • Market for 'people who always buy next Gears of War, Halo, COD & sit with controller in front of TV at night is finite' 'Market for little mobile games, facebook games is billions'
  • 'Hardcore gamer types will always buy what they release, but mass market won't spend 500 bucks on a device that sits in your living room' thus:
  • Multimedia-only version (non-gaming device, codename 'Yuma') of the Xbox already in planning.

I am not a fan of the direction console gaming is headed. Does any of this seem like a good idea?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on April 08, 2013, 08:44:20 AM
Yes, because the PS3 at a $500 price point did so well, too.

:popcorn:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Morat20 on April 08, 2013, 08:48:57 AM
They are really not making the case for me switching from the 360.

Looks like what they really want to do is leverage the Xbox name into an AppleTV competitor.

Which sounds like a good way to piss off their customers (increase the cost of the box, add value in areas the base customer doesn't really care for, and not in areas they do) and try to sell it to an entirely DIFFERENT customer base.

About the only bright side there is the new, cheaper 360 seems to be entirely hedging their bet.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 08, 2013, 09:10:53 AM
Console gaming is dead, long live pc gaming!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on April 08, 2013, 09:28:56 AM
Doesn't it just seem like they are going to end up with a watered down product? When you try to do everything, you end up doing none of it very well.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on April 08, 2013, 09:55:21 AM
Always online for a console is complete bollocks. That's one of the few features of a console that has always been a selling point away from the PC.

Also, what metric is telling these people that Facebook and mobile games are the future? I hope they aren't using Zynga as an example since the execs are now getting sued over their bullshit sales we called out almost a year ago (http://www.valuewalk.com/2013/04/zynga-inc-znga-sued-by-shareholder-over-stock-sales/)

They should win that suit, and Zynga should be bankrupt soon. They have been pushing heavy losses for 2 years in a row, with no signs of recovery.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on April 08, 2013, 10:32:37 AM
This is such an opportunity for Sony. No online requirement, allow used games and the nextbox is out of the game for a generation.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on April 08, 2013, 10:34:14 AM
This is such an opportunity for Sony. No online requirement, allow used games and the nextbox is out of the game for a generation.

I don't have faith in them. I would assume they will just follow suit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goreschach on April 08, 2013, 10:43:59 AM
ITT old people yelling at clouds.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on April 08, 2013, 10:49:38 AM
ITT old people yelling at clouds.

You're probably right. I keep thinking about some younger people I know who would probably eat this shit right up. I am not the target audience anymore. I have become my parents.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on April 08, 2013, 11:04:31 AM
ITT old people yelling at clouds.

Nope. This is bad business. In fact, Sony has been tanking for the last 3 years, and they just posted their largest loss in years along with their revenue totals 16% lower than 2009 levels. Their cash flows are dwindling year to year.

They should take advantage of MS making giant missteps of late if they want to turn the tide. Otherwise? They are going to get bled out of the marketshare.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on April 08, 2013, 11:26:51 AM
They are really not making the case for me switching from the 360.

Ditto.

Quote
Which sounds like a good way to piss off their customers (increase the cost of the box, add value in areas the base customer doesn't really care for, and not in areas they do) and try to sell it to an entirely DIFFERENT customer base.

So basically the new XBox is Windows 8 in shitbrick form?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on April 08, 2013, 01:10:12 PM
This is such an opportunity for Sony. No online requirement, allow used games and the nextbox is out of the game for a generation.

I don't have faith in them. I would assume they will just follow suit.

to trust not is wise
yet always on requirement
denied has been

Edit: Cut me some slack, I am new to this haiku stuff. :oops:

What about:

always on fear
floating on the internetz
denials blossom


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on April 08, 2013, 02:25:33 PM
That Microsoft is shifting their console stuff to be more of an Apple competitor should surprise absolutely nobody whatsoever.

I mean, Microsoft essentially said a decade ago with the launch of the original XBox that this kind of stuff (an all-in-one multimedia set-top box that you pay into) was their long-term goal, and that they were using console gaming as an "in".


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on April 08, 2013, 02:34:21 PM
The problem with that theory is that when you aren't first to the party, and the guy with the first product doesn't suck, it's hard to break in.

See Google v. Bing, or Origin v. Steam


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on April 08, 2013, 03:00:06 PM
Which sounds like a good way to piss off their customers (increase the cost of the box, add value in areas the base customer doesn't really care for, and not in areas they do) and try to sell it to an entirely DIFFERENT customer base.
So standard procedure for every-other OS they've put out?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Morat20 on April 08, 2013, 06:06:00 PM
lol. Pretty much.

I'm not dropping 500 for it. Heck, as it was I'm happy enough with the 360 that it'd have to be a big step up to get me to drop 300 on it. (Certainly not the first six months. Let other people sort out their first-run hardware problems),

But flat-out -- marketing it as a social/media hub, gaming console second? Officially lost interest in spending money on them at all.

I guess what's really annoying here is the Xbox is a gaming console. And the news there? Social and media stuff. Not gaming. Even if the Xbox 720 is some quantum leap in gaming, it feels like gaming is an afterthought.

Also? FUCK ALWAYS ONLINE. My internet goes out, so I can't play games? Fuck you. I'm not paying a few hundred dollars for something that's a brick if ATT is having network problems.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fordel on April 08, 2013, 06:11:17 PM
How much does a 360 cost these days? Is the new 'stingray' model significantly cheaper?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on April 08, 2013, 06:27:04 PM
How much does a 360 cost these days? Is the new 'stingray' model significantly cheaper?
Depends on which one. There are like a bazillion SKUs now :why_so_serious: (actually only 6 not including the special bundles).

4 GB or 250 GB
with or without Kinect
with or without 2 year Xbox Live Gold subscription.

The cheapest are the $99 4 GB + Kinect or $99 250 GB (no Kinect) with the 2 year Xbox Live Gold subscription.

Without the subscription the cheapest is $199 for the 4 GB (no Kinect).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on April 08, 2013, 09:20:26 PM
The current $99 with subscription is a 2 year, $14.99/month subscription, making it ~$40 more expensive than just buying the system and two years of Gold outright. If the Stingray is an actual $99 SKU with no subscription required it'd be a significant drop, but with no memory it probably still requires another $129.99 for a hard drive.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on April 08, 2013, 10:31:50 PM
To me the whole idea of a "set top box" that rules them all is already way outdated. It's a goal that MS has had for at least 15 years. WebTV was supposed to be that. But to me one unified box that plays games, video, services, etc, seems like someone offering an amp, receiver and 5 disc CD changer in one package - who cares? People use iPods to listen to music now, not 5 component stereo system towers.

The modern family is less tethered to the TV and living room every day. This is definitely not "old man yells at cloud", it's the opposite - old man pursues outdated business goal. Have you been in the living room of someone who has kids? One kid is on the computer, one kid is using an iPad. There isn't a family circle around the TV. "Back in my day we all shared one wooden toy." This sort of living room domination is that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on April 08, 2013, 10:34:27 PM
You're probably right. I keep thinking about some younger people I know who would probably eat this shit right up. I am not the target audience anymore. I have become my parents.

Young people might not be bothered by "always on" requirements but do you think young people interact with social media by sitting down in front of the TV?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phred on April 09, 2013, 03:07:16 AM
The problem with that theory is that when you aren't first to the party, and the guy with the first product doesn't suck, it's hard to break in.

It would seem exceptionally hard when putting 0 effort behind the attempt. See this recent article on the Windows 8 Store ._

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/5-reasons-why-the-windows-8-store-is-a-complete-mess/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on April 09, 2013, 07:47:14 AM
You're probably right. I keep thinking about some younger people I know who would probably eat this shit right up. I am not the target audience anymore. I have become my parents.

Young people might not be bothered by "always on" requirements but do you think young people interact with social media by sitting down in front of the TV?

Perhaps not, but they probably would view it as another way to connect with friends or family. They are so used to being available 24/7 anyway and now it is easier to see what my friends are up to.

I'm probably going to sound even older now, but cell phones are really what started the "always on" issue. My in-laws actually get upset when my wife and I don't answer our cell phones. As if having the cell means I am available at all times whenever you call. It drives me insane, but younger people are so used to this idea that it is second nature.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on April 09, 2013, 08:58:27 AM
The definition of irony?  Having your DRM solution hacked to deliver free games, including unreleased ones (http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/13884/article/far-cry-3-blood-dragon-leaked-by-uplay-exploit/).

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Russian hackers have figured out a way to download free games from Ubisoft's servers, exploiting an existing vulnerability in Ubisoft's uPlay launcher


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 09, 2013, 09:03:10 AM
To me the whole idea of a "set top box" that rules them all is already way outdated. It's a goal that MS has had for at least 15 years. WebTV was supposed to be that. But to me one unified box that plays games, video, services, etc, seems like someone offering an amp, receiver and 5 disc CD changer in one package - who cares? People use iPods to listen to music now, not 5 component stereo system towers.
The receiver is still the heart of the media system. Headphones and docking systems can't compete with real speakers.

My main problem with a set-top unibox is that everyone wants to make it a walled garden device, injecting more middle-man profit grabbing into an already expensive chain. I have a perfectly good unified device (and I'm looking at unifying even more with a cable card) in my PC. Great gaming, blu-ray, streaming video and music. But I can't watch HD movies because it's not walled and Amazon has a fit about that (even though I'm paying a sub for Prime).
Young people might not be bothered by "always on" requirements
Young people might not pay for their online connection or have realistic budgets. Having a broadband connection isn't a reality in most of the world. It does follow the trend of squeezing the haves harder and just forgetting about the have-nots entirely.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Segoris on April 09, 2013, 10:11:08 AM
The definition of irony?  Having your DRM solution hacked to deliver free games, including unreleased ones (http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/13884/article/far-cry-3-blood-dragon-leaked-by-uplay-exploit/).

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Russian hackers have figured out a way to download free games from Ubisoft's servers, exploiting an existing vulnerability in Ubisoft's uPlay launcher

I'm torn between just putting a smiley icon because, well, fuck Ubi's uPlay system right in the god damn ear or being upset because this will just give those nutbags more to bitch about and blame on pirates instead of their shitty systems.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on April 11, 2013, 04:38:07 AM
In other Ubisoft news, apparently Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon was actually a real thing and not an April Fool's joke.

( :awesome_for_real: & amazing ) website: http://fc3blooddragon.uk.ubi.com/

It's like every early-80s sci-fi action movie rolled into one (including having Michael Biehn in it).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on April 11, 2013, 05:52:28 AM
Following Twitter Tirade, Microsoft Creative Director Adam Orth No Longer With Microsoft (https://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2013/04/10/following-twitter-tirade_2c00_-microsoft-designer-adam-orth-resigns.aspx)

That went quick...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on April 11, 2013, 06:12:53 AM
It's funny. Had it been something the net agreed with, they'd be bitching in comments about how unfair it is he was fired for statements on his private twitter.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on April 11, 2013, 06:28:27 AM
Considering how much science there is behind things like crowd psychology, he pretty much played with fire and was surprised when he got burned.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on April 11, 2013, 06:56:26 AM
So Microsoft is going to push their new console into spot in the market that doesn't even fucking exist.  There is no demand for an always on multimedia device that requires a subscription service and is totally walled off.  Not primarily a gaming console?  Are they fucking bonkers?  They are going to cram in a bajillion feature that are all better done by some other device.  I already have 47 devices that will work with Hulu or Netflix.  I have better ways to use facebook.  I have better web browsers.  My other devices have better peripherals for inputs.  I have several blu ray players.  I don't want yet another way to connect people.  My PC already does whatever you are trying to duplicate, and already plays super amazing games.  I don't want to pay a subscription to play Farmville, or whatever.  500 dollars?  Hardy har har.  I never thought we would get to a console generation that I would not be an early adopter of.  Wii U was the first, and now this.  Sony isn't looking all that smart either.  Seems like for the first time in a long time that the way has been paved for somebody else to come in and clean up.

I have a great new idea, though.  Recent marketing studies have indicated that people who sit down on their couches often like to have carbonated beverages nearby.  Someone should make a gaming console that is primarily a carbonated beverage dispensing device, and a maybe including a touchscreen on it so that you can still play your angry birds while skyping with your grandma.  Fucking money hats.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on April 11, 2013, 08:11:02 AM
I can't get enough of Microsoft thinking they need like 32 different SKUs for every product. Okay we got the new console, a new-old console, then a settop box. Whew, did we miss any bases yet? Do they have a handheld?

Following Twitter Tirade, Microsoft Creative Director Adam Orth No Longer With Microsoft (https://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2013/04/10/following-twitter-tirade_2c00_-microsoft-designer-adam-orth-resigns.aspx)

That went quick...
lmao forever.

Edit: Also, Polygon is defending the guy. Just FYI Polygon took $250,000 from Microsoft. Sure it's a coincidence.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on April 11, 2013, 08:39:07 AM
The most recent set of leaks/rumors re: the next XBox are actually pretty interesting (http://www.vgleaks.com/microsoft-xbox-roadmap-2013/).

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The “Xbox Mini” is not a 360 add-on, it is a stand alone product that contains Xbox 360 functions for gaming, and alone it is meant to compete with Apple TV. Since it is likely it will not have a disc drive, it is being designed with “always online” in mind, and with internet being required for Live functions....

...Durango itself will also always be online like any other device (correct with rumors), but it will not be a requirement to play local content and it will not prevent playing used games. Putting in an Xbox 360 disc into Durango will prompt the user to attach the supporting device that is sold separately. By separating the two devices and their functions it will ensure price competitiveness for both pieces of hardware.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 11, 2013, 09:24:34 AM
So Microsoft is going to push their new console into spot in the market that doesn't even fucking exist.  There is no demand for an always on multimedia device that requires a subscription service and is totally walled off.  Not primarily a gaming console?  Are they fucking bonkers?  They are going to cram in a bajillion feature that are all better done by some other device.  I already have 47 devices that will work with Hulu or Netflix.  I have better ways to use facebook.  I have better web browsers.  My other devices have better peripherals for inputs.  I have several blu ray players.  I don't want yet another way to connect people.  My PC already does whatever you are trying to duplicate, and already plays super amazing games.

When you put it like that, sounds perfect for Sky.

So, yes: bonkers.

What are bonkers, anyway?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 11, 2013, 09:51:35 AM
My only complaint is the device binding of Amazon Prime video. Even if the new console from MS is better at 1080p than my 460SLI with 2GB vram, it won't be for long.

So they don't even get me, ostensibly the target demographic. Though not really because it's the money boner thing for social networking, and my social networking is going over to the neighbors to have a beer in his garage or having a friend over to jam.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on April 11, 2013, 09:54:22 AM
So Microsoft is going to push their new console into spot in the market that doesn't even fucking exist.  There is no demand for an always on multimedia device that requires a subscription service and is totally walled off.  Not primarily a gaming console?  Are they fucking bonkers?  They are going to cram in a bajillion feature that are all better done by some other device.  I already have 47 devices that will work with Hulu or Netflix.  I have better ways to use facebook.  I have better web browsers.  My other devices have better peripherals for inputs.  I have several blu ray players.  I don't want yet another way to connect people.  My PC already does whatever you are trying to duplicate, and already plays super amazing games.

When you put it like that, sounds perfect for Sky.

So, yes: bonkers.

What are bonkers, anyway?

(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/jmarko579/3-2.jpg)

I used to love this candy. Maybe my post belongs in the Old Farts thread.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on April 11, 2013, 10:15:46 AM
Durango: SegaCD part deux


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on April 11, 2013, 02:43:16 PM
The receiver is still the heart of the media system. Headphones and docking systems can't compete with real speakers.

From an audio quality standpoint, sure. The again MP3s can't compete with CDs and Netflix streaming can't compete with Blu-Ray.

I don't own a receiver or "media system" of any kind and there are a lot of people out there like me.

Edit: As far as "always online" goes, the phrase is used to mean about ten different things. When used by PR it generally means "does not function without a connection" not "uses a connection constantly if you have one." So when I read something like "...Durango itself will also always be online like any other device (correct with rumors), but it will not be a requirement to play local content and it will not prevent playing used games" I have no idea what to think.

This SKU stuff is incredibly confusing. If I have a Durango is there any reason I'd want this 360 mini other than to play 360 games? And I can't update my existing 360 to give it the functions of the new one? What?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on April 11, 2013, 03:27:11 PM
This SKU stuff is incredibly confusing. If I have a Durango is there any reason I'd want this 360 mini other than to play 360 games? And I can't update my existing 360 to give it the functions of the new one? What?

As far as I can tell (and assuming this all pans out), they're releasing the Durango and the 'XBox mini' (which is being positioned against Roku/AppleTV, etc) as standalone devices.

Durango won't have backwards compatibility built in, but if it's connected to the Mini (Form Voltron!), you can chuck your 360 discs in Durango's drive and they'll work.

XBox mini won't have an optical drive, but it will play your XBLA stuff and anything you purchased using XBox Games on Demand.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 11, 2013, 03:50:53 PM
Eh... is there a link to the Visio diagram for this?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on April 11, 2013, 04:11:43 PM
Eh... is there a link to the Visio diagram for this?

Seriously.

One thing I hate about gaming today is how you need a fucking spreadsheet to buy anything. People are going to walk into a store and be able to buy a 720, a 360 or a Mini, all of which do different things alone and in combination. I suspect that the Mini is going to be HD-DVD drive of this gen.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soln on April 11, 2013, 05:56:39 PM
Eh... is there a link to the Visio diagram for this?

Seriously.

One thing I hate about gaming today is how you need a fucking spreadsheet to buy anything. People are going to walk into a store and be able to buy a 720, a 360 or a Mini, all of which do different things alone and in combination. I suspect that the Mini is going to be HD-DVD drive of this gen.

This product fragmentation?  It's the group internecine warfare within Microsoft.  Bet anything each SKU does something DIFFERENT that some VP and chums can point to as a completed goal.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on April 11, 2013, 08:02:42 PM
I have a great new idea, though.  Recent marketing studies have indicated that people who sit down on their couches often like to have carbonated beverages nearby.  Someone should make a gaming console that is primarily a carbonated beverage dispensing device, and a maybe including a touchscreen on it so that you can still play your angry birds while skyping with your grandma.  Fucking money hats.

With the tech that is in Coke's Freestyle machines, this is a total possibility and a fantastic idea. 

I now want to create a subscription soda service for fat Americans so they never have to go to the store again.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on April 11, 2013, 08:29:40 PM
Jones Soda had (and may still have, too lazy to research) subscription soda services in the late 90s. As did a few other boutique companies.

It was pretty good.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Morat20 on April 11, 2013, 09:05:02 PM
I wouldn't mind an actual soda fountain setup. Just buy the packs and the CO2 -- probably be cheaper over the long run. *shrug*

Microsoft is still being a flaming moron with the 720. I think they're doing all the BS social-networking crap for the same reason SimCity did -- as a justification for what is an anti-piracy (well, anti-resale actually) move. They want a cut of that Gamestop money, and they're willing to fuck over the Xbox to get it.

Which is gonna be..interesting, because legally if they do anything to actually cut into resales, they're running afoul of the law. OTOH, the Supreme Court has been moving lately to make it REALLY fucking hard to do class-action lawsuits, so they might be able to get away with it under the assumption that no class-action suit can be put together.

On the third hand -- they're still fucking over their gamers because they want that gamestop resale money (and it's not like they're gonna lower the box price to cut into it -- heavens no) and their gamers are seeing a bullshit social media box that claims to be a console.

So, you know, pretty standard software company stabbing itself in the dick in pursuit of money it thinks it deserves but doesn't get.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on April 11, 2013, 09:18:21 PM
It's not afoul of resale laws if it's software you never owned.   If it's streamed to your unit and you only have a licence agreement to have access which can be revoked/ arbitrated instead of sued over.  Well, they win.   You didn't need to sign the TOS to buy the fixture and you can still use it for base function. However, you HAD to click-through that TOS to lease the software, so sorry no "i had to open it first" shrinkwrap shenanagins stuff!

Do I think they'll succeed? Probably.  Consumers are getting dumber as retailers get cleverer.  I never assumed anyone would be dumb enough to do pay-per-minute for Data and phone again. Boy was I wrong!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on April 12, 2013, 07:54:11 AM
I wouldn't mind an actual soda fountain setup. Just buy the packs and the CO2 -- probably be cheaper over the long run. *shrug*


It's the insulin that gets expensive.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on April 12, 2013, 08:17:32 AM
Do I think they'll succeed? Probably.  Consumers are getting dumber as retailers get cleverer.

This. They will succeed. Too many gamers are looking for that fix and aren't thinking twice about what it means to not really own the games they buy.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Morat20 on April 12, 2013, 08:54:37 AM
It's not afoul of resale laws if it's software you never owned.   If it's streamed to your unit and you only have a licence agreement to have access which can be revoked/ arbitrated instead of sued over.  Well, they win.   You didn't need to sign the TOS to buy the fixture and you can still use it for base function. However, you HAD to click-through that TOS to lease the software, so sorry no "i had to open it first" shrinkwrap shenanagins stuff!

Do I think they'll succeed? Probably.  Consumers are getting dumber as retailers get cleverer.  I never assumed anyone would be dumb enough to do pay-per-minute for Data and phone again. Boy was I wrong!
Right, but this "always on" stuff doesn't seem to fit into "We'd like to stream the games to you! No more discs!" logic -- that doesn't need to be "always on", unless they're paranoid you're gonna somehow figure out how to install the game on multiple X-boxes and play it, which seems like more work than the average customer will bother with (and nothing they can do will stop the dedicated ones).

I'm talking physical disc resale -- that's what's been pissing MS off. Sure, half the reason for digital delivery is to kick that option in the nads. But "always on" is like first-day DLC's in an attempt to say "Nope, can't play that game. Someone else still 'owns' it even though you've paid for it!"

That part's illegal, although I suppose if they're trying to claim online experience is integral (even if online only means 'you can auto-facebook shit') then they can try to side-step it.

But in the end, this is gonna be a festering pile of shit because it's all justifications for preventing resale, not a useful feature in of itself. Like SimCity, what you have here is a console designed around a mandate of "Fuck you if you bought your game at Gamestop".


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on April 12, 2013, 09:29:22 AM
There's a difference between reselling your game and the wholesale rape that is gamestop's business model.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 12, 2013, 01:23:23 PM
It would only be rape if they were forcing people to do it.  Most people don't love their games the way old farts do.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on April 12, 2013, 01:26:22 PM
I wouldn't mind an actual soda fountain setup. Just buy the packs and the CO2 -- probably be cheaper over the long run. *shrug*

Much cheaper.  Google "SodaStream". 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on April 12, 2013, 02:56:01 PM
I want an actual 2 head fountain whenever I get a condo/home. Sodastream is cheaper but not even remotely the same thing. I want muh'fuckin Diet Rooster Booster and endless no work required stream of soda water.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on April 12, 2013, 05:21:10 PM
There'll be work required no matter what unless you hire someone to refill and maintain the machine for you, but yeah, a SodaStream isn't quite the same thing as "push button, soda comes out".  It is way the hell cheaper and more space-efficient, though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on April 12, 2013, 05:56:59 PM
Cheaper in the short term, yes. Long term, not even remotely. The gas refills are priced for shit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Morat20 on April 14, 2013, 02:01:55 PM
Attempting to log into Xbox live today was another strike against me getting a 720.

It took fifteen minutes of cursing because of some bullshit Microsoft security shit. "We need another email address to verify it". "Wait, we already have that [other one]". THEN WHY THE FUCK DID YOU ASK FOR IT?

Same for a phone number for a text message. It basically sat there in a loop of fucking stupid, asking me for shit it then said it already had, and not letting me goddamn log in.

No, I had to finally get up, wander to my computer, go through two email accounts and the goddamn Xbox live page to MAYBE fix the fucking thing. And given what happened last time this shit occurred, in two days I'll have to do it again.

Here's a hint, Microsoft: If you want "always on" then logging onto your fucking service should not be akin to being punched in the dick.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on April 14, 2013, 02:03:43 PM
Probably a side-effect of the Xbox Live outage this weekend.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Morat20 on April 14, 2013, 02:19:30 PM
Probably a side-effect of the Xbox Live outage this weekend.

Which was, you know, TOTALLY not hacked. At all. Just a random service outage that's requiring us all to punch ourselves in the dicks to prove we're us.

*makes throttling motions*

I'm assuming that my Xbox has a unique serial number, one that is undoubtedly passed to MS everytime I log onto Live. So the question is, why does Microsoft not go "Hey, look, it's Morat20 logging in on the same physical platform he always logs into" and call it a day?

Sure, maybe someone stole my xbox. But that would be a seperate issue from some account hacking shit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on April 15, 2013, 10:15:09 AM
So my XBox 360 has decided it does not want to stay connected to the Internet for more than a few minutes. Oh and no matter how long I keep my wireless controller charged in, it doesn't actually work for more than a few minutes. Luckily, I have no much PC gaming goodness, I haven't really missed it. Does this sound like a precursor to bricking or just separate issues that I should probably look at separately if I was ever arsed to care?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on April 15, 2013, 11:03:41 AM
The internet I can't say.  Could be a router issue.  Old router?  Wired or wireless?  Try switching ports if wired?

The controller probably just needs a new rechargeable battery.  They do go bad after a few years.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on April 15, 2013, 12:07:48 PM
No, the router was working fine for a while. I've always had trouble with this XBox 360 (never could get the Live voice chat to work right with headphones) and it's probably just time to put a bullet in it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on April 15, 2013, 01:09:37 PM
Hmm, maybe the recent troubles is why my XBox Live account crashed and burned last weekend. Had to make a new one in the end, lost 20 hours of Dark Souls progress.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on April 15, 2013, 06:04:19 PM
Wasn't sure where to put this, so I'll just leave it here:

A large album of Star Wars Galaxies screenshots http://imgur.com/a/NiiYi#0


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on April 16, 2013, 09:43:53 AM
Great.  SWG memories.  Now I'm horribly depressed again. :cry:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shannow on April 17, 2013, 02:03:05 PM
For us sad , sad EA drones out there....

 Fifa 14 announced (duh) , new features revealed. (http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/04/17/fifa-14-new-features-revealed)

65 millions players a day huh? Damn.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on April 17, 2013, 02:27:08 PM
I immediately thought that "features" meant something like always-on DRM, we actually built an MMO in many ways kind of features. These are actual features. I'm jaded I guess.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on April 17, 2013, 02:55:09 PM
For us sad , sad EA drones out there....

 Fifa 14 announced (duh) , new features revealed. (http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/04/17/fifa-14-new-features-revealed)

65 millions players a day huh? Damn.

No no no. 65 Million games a week.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shannow on April 17, 2013, 03:15:19 PM
Ahh ok, still impressive...Im guessing that shits all over Madden.

Btw to call them features is really too kind, more like tweaks to gameplay that  75% of players wont notice


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on April 19, 2013, 10:00:32 PM
Oculus Rift + Omni Directional Treadmill + gun controller = some of the neatest VR I've seen in a while:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-04-19-team-fortress-2-played-on-omnidirectional-treadmill-and-oculus-rift


Looking impractical, but I could see it being fun.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on April 20, 2013, 05:16:00 AM
Ahh ok, still impressive...Im guessing that shits all over Madden.
Well, yeah. Most of the planet plays football, only America really plays hand-egg.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on April 25, 2013, 09:37:56 PM
Thanks to my inside connections with AMD (i.e. I have an AMD card inside my PC) I am able to bring you this F13-exlusive preview of AMD's next "Never Settle" bundle:



(http://i.imgur.com/FbZOOPH.jpg)


While the veracity cannot be confirmed yet, I really hope it is...Rome II would be a day-one purchase for me and I prolly need a new card by then anyway.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on April 25, 2013, 10:47:53 PM
AMD still makes graphics cards? I thought they all but shuttered their GPU division.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on April 25, 2013, 11:23:57 PM
AMD still makes graphics cards? I thought they all but shuttered their GPU division.

(http://i.imgur.com/09lDM3N.png)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on April 26, 2013, 12:12:04 AM
What is a "never settle" bundle?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on April 26, 2013, 12:53:11 AM
AMD still makes graphics cards? I thought they all but shuttered their GPU division.

(http://meme)

I'm completely serious. Unless I grossly misinterpreted the news, they fired many of their engineers last year, and have said multiple times, most recently in February (http://www.techpowerup.com/180009/No-New-GPUs-from-AMD-for-the-Bulk-of-2013.html), that they have no new cards coming out for nearly all of 2013, and maybe even into next year.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phred on April 26, 2013, 02:27:02 AM
AMD still makes graphics cards? I thought they all but shuttered their GPU division.

Sigh ya they still manage dispite an incompetant board.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on April 26, 2013, 05:12:34 AM
What is a "never settle" bundle?

Get free games when you buy an AMD graphic cards. For example buying a 7900 series card gets you free Farcry 3, Farcry Blood Dragon, Hitman and Sleeping Dogs. A cheaper HD 7700 still gets you Farcry 3 + Blood dragon.
-----------
I'm completely serious. Unless I grossly misinterpreted the news, they fired many of their engineers last year, and have said multiple times, most recently in February (http://www.techpowerup.com/180009/No-New-GPUs-from-AMD-for-the-Bulk-of-2013.html), that they have no new cards coming out for nearly all of 2013, and maybe even into next year.

One might even say it's the division that's doing good right now.


CPU market share
Intel: 82.5% - AMD’s 16.9%

Discrete graphic cards:
Nvida: 65.7% - AMD:35.7%

-----------

Neither Nvida nor AMD are going to launch a new series of graphic cards before Q4/2013. Both for the same reason: they are milking the market with the current generation as long as they can. AMD has the "Sea Islands" series ready, but is it holding it back until said Q4.

"Sea Islands" - codename of the the coming 8000 series - will be a refresh of the current "Southern Islands" (HD 7000) generation. Meaning no large architekture changes and the same 28 nm production process, 'just' an increase in die-size and more transistors. 3dcenter.de speculates with a 30% performance increase in the mainstream segment, ~20% for the high end series.

What Nvidia will counter with is unkown atm. They might develop a new a chip as well (although nothing said about that yet) or offer something based on the GK110 chip (which is what runs their current Titan card, selling for 1169$ at amazon.com right now.)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 26, 2013, 09:29:32 AM
What is a "never settle" bundle?

A last gasp.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phred on April 26, 2013, 02:59:37 PM
What is a "never settle" bundle?

A last gasp.
35% of the market hardly seems like a last gasp. All you people cheering for AMD to fail deserve a single chip monopoly market.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on April 26, 2013, 03:13:39 PM
Who's cheering for AMD to fail? I  certainly don't want them to, despite not having had an AMD processor for a number of years, and have avoided ATi cards like the plague.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on April 26, 2013, 03:29:31 PM
I was a big AMD fan until Intel's i-series came out; ATI cards have been shit for a while though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on April 26, 2013, 03:37:12 PM
I like AMD, but ATI is a pox on computing.  Ideally we won't end up with a single chip designer, for obvious reasons.

That said, I'm running Intel now because AMD seems to have dropped the ball.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Severian on April 26, 2013, 03:58:46 PM
AMD "APU"s (CPU+GPU) will be the core of both the PS4 and the next Xbox. That will keep them afloat, and make them ideal for those sweet sweet ports.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goreschach on April 26, 2013, 04:15:56 PM
Although it will make for some revenue, the profit margins on chips for consoles are extremely thin. But the real reason you aren't going to see anything major in GPUs this year is TSMC. They manufacture the chips for both NVIDIA and ATI, and their next process is still who-the-fuck-knows off. NVIDIA will apparently have a kepler refresh coming out in a few months, but performance gains likely won't amount to terribly much.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on April 26, 2013, 05:43:45 PM
Well, yeah. Since the core i7 (Nehalms, so 2008...) Intel is miles ahead of AMD in the CPU field. Regarding graphic cards AMD isn't in such a bad position. Actually I'd say right now the AMD offers are better price/value than their Nvida counterparts.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on April 26, 2013, 07:43:44 PM
Ahh ok, still impressive...Im guessing that shits all over Madden.
Well, yeah. Most of the planet plays football, only America really plays hand-egg.

Most of the planet is also poor, and we've been playing that other football in Canada for over 100 years now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phred on April 26, 2013, 08:59:34 PM
Ahh ok, still impressive...Im guessing that shits all over Madden.
Well, yeah. Most of the planet plays football, only America really plays hand-egg.

Most of the planet is also poor, and we've been playing that other football in Canada for over 100 years now.

Sadly after 100 years we're still not very good at it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 03, 2013, 10:27:21 AM
Infographic: Evolution of Game Controllers
http://www.fastcodesign.com/1672457/infographic-the-amazing-evolution-of-video-game-controllers#1


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on May 03, 2013, 11:16:59 AM
Holy cow, I forgot the Microvision.

Also, they missed the evolution of Rock Band's toys to Rocksmith's actual instrument as a controller.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 03, 2013, 11:40:41 AM
I give them a major pass for starting off with Tennis for Two.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on May 07, 2013, 02:09:42 PM
Patrice Desilets gets fired. (http://www.polygon.com/2013/5/7/4308980/patrice-desilets-departs-ubisoft-a-second-time) It makes me wonder what kind of atmosphere there was in Ubisoft when they see the need to do the "immediate termination, guards will see you out" -routine (on someone who is notable enough to make it into a news story).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on May 07, 2013, 04:58:17 PM
Didn't even know who he was. Now I do. He made "jumping off roofs with knives" simulators.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 07, 2013, 08:28:51 PM
Escorting people out is done in cases where you stole company assets or sexually harassed someone.  At least in the U.S.  I'd like to defer to our Canadian HR expert, if he is available.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on May 07, 2013, 08:37:34 PM
Patrice Desilets gets fired. (http://www.polygon.com/2013/5/7/4308980/patrice-desilets-departs-ubisoft-a-second-time) It makes me wonder what kind of atmosphere there was in Ubisoft when they see the need to do the "immediate termination, guards will see you out" -routine (on someone who is notable enough to make it into a news story).

The guy already quit Ubisoft once. He only ended up getting dragged back there after they bought the THQ studio he was working at when all of THQ's assets were being auctioned off.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Miasma on May 08, 2013, 07:10:57 AM
Escorting people out is done in cases where you stole company assets or sexually harassed someone.  At least in the U.S.  I'd like to defer to our Canadian HR expert, if he is available.
Varies based on the paranoia of the company you're with, same as the U.S. I imagine.  In IT they're more afraid that you're going to steal whatever crappy software they wrote, even though it probably wouldn't work anywhere else.  I used to work for a bank that escorted anyone in our IT group out the moment they resigned.  They just paid you for the two weeks notice or whatever you gave them.

Then people who resigned got wise and started giving four weeks notice, they got escorted out and paid for four weeks.  The last person who resigned, before they scrapped the escorting out policy, gave six months notice and they had to pay him for it :awesome_for_real:.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on May 08, 2013, 08:35:25 AM
I'm going to go give my boss my year's notice, brb.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on May 08, 2013, 09:17:16 AM
Swen Vincke, founder of Larian Studios ("Divinity" franchise) posted an interesting piece on his blog: he writes about the successful KS experience for "Original Sin"; but also, and more importantly, he expresses his feelings about the relationship with the gaming press (review style, sending out demos, bad/good publicity etc.):

http://www.lar.net/2013/05/07/being-selective/

Quote
One of the things I started wondering about throughout the campaign was who we should show our games to. You see, I used to think that you should strive for maximum exposure, and try to show your game to anybody who can hold a pen or camera. But after having talked to I guess over 200 media over the last couple of months and seeing their output, I’ve actually come to reconsider that statement.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on May 08, 2013, 11:30:20 AM
I love that line. "I saw what you did there and... NO."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 08, 2013, 05:28:01 PM
Oh, that's very interesting.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 10, 2013, 11:23:17 AM
I think that Stealth Bastard: Tactical Espionage Arsehole is one of the best names for a game ever.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on May 11, 2013, 03:51:04 PM
I think that Stealth Bastard: Tactical Espionage Arsehole is one of the best names for a game ever.

Let's kickstart it!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 13, 2013, 07:26:07 AM
I think that Stealth Bastard: Tactical Espionage Arsehole is one of the best names for a game ever.

Let's kickstart it!

http://store.steampowered.com/app/209190/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on May 13, 2013, 01:38:48 PM
That actually sounds like fun.  I do need a new thing to play.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 13, 2013, 08:24:45 PM
If you had a 360 we could play Monaco.  We need four people because we suck.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 14, 2013, 10:45:26 AM
I read a few bits about that HEX game today and I determined after 46 seconds of investigation that I need to stay far away from that shit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on May 14, 2013, 10:52:57 AM
So, you're gonna play with us? Sweet.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 14, 2013, 01:02:29 PM
PROBABLY inevitable....

I'll really miss drawing on my cards, but eh.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on May 14, 2013, 02:08:32 PM
ONE OF US

ONE OF US

ONE OF US


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on May 14, 2013, 02:18:01 PM
PROBABLY inevitable....

I'll really miss drawing on my cards, but eh.

Maybe vandalizing your cards will be a stretch goal feature.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 14, 2013, 03:51:19 PM
I absolutely will not be able to resist if that happens.  My absolute favorite was when I drew stars and an astronaut on a swamp, and titled it OUTER SPACE.  That card is still in play, in fact, and wins.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on May 14, 2013, 04:03:38 PM
I don't believe anyone in the history of Magic ever vandalized a card with anything other than a penis. Are you sure it wasn't a penis on a swamp titled OUTER DICKS?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Brofellos on May 14, 2013, 04:11:18 PM
You're forgetten tastelessly depicted anime women.  I refuse to play with basic lands that don't have art veering towards tentacle porn on them anymore.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Teleku on May 14, 2013, 04:29:28 PM
(http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/disgusted/grand/will_smith_uh_gif.gif)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on May 14, 2013, 05:47:26 PM
If you had a 360 we could play Monaco.  We need four people because we suck.

I'm interested but I don't have a 360.  I take it there's no cross-platform multiplayer?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on May 15, 2013, 11:33:35 AM
If you had a 360 we could play Monaco.  We need four people because we suck.

I'm interested but I don't have a 360.  I take it there's no cross-platform multiplayer?

I'm just automatically assuming XPM does not exist anywhere.

Yeah, I just invented an acronym.

I don't believe anyone in the history of Magic ever vandalized a card with anything other than a penis. Are you sure it wasn't a penis on a swamp titled OUTER DICKS?

Well, that is in fact why my cards were so awesome.  They weren't particularly artistic.  I used a ball-point pen and may have been drunk or high at the time.  That whole era of my life is a blur.  In fact, when the cards were shown to me again last year, I was astounded that I had done that.  In any case, tapping OUTER SPACE for one black mana was pretty awesome-sounding.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Arthur_Parker on May 21, 2013, 10:18:39 AM
Sorry if this has been posted before, apparently there is a rich vein of comedy related to console stuff that I've been missing out on.

Francis says FIX XBOX LIVE!!! #freeXBL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12c1rKLAeuk)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on May 21, 2013, 10:46:58 AM
Sorry if this has been posted before, apparently there is a rich vein of comedy related to console stuff that I've been missing out on.

Francis says FIX XBOX LIVE!!! #freeXBL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12c1rKLAeuk)

Funnier than it had any right to be.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on May 21, 2013, 11:47:46 AM
Dude's got a point. A sub fee just to enable Internet access is laughable. If you don't have a 360, anyway.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phred on May 21, 2013, 11:54:27 AM
Dude's got a point. A sub fee just to enable Internet access is laughable. If you don't have a 360, anyway.

Actually it was brilliant packaging by Microsoft. They managed to monetize a formerly free service for a console they had to sell at a loss to be competitive. Brilliant. And at the same time most people leap to defend the fee. Or they did until they dashboard got so cluttered in ads they can't find the launch button to play a game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on May 21, 2013, 01:04:45 PM
I would probably have an XBox if not for having to pay a fee to plug it into my own internet connection.  I can't believe anyone puts up with that foolishness.

I mean, I'm far from a Sony fanboy, but I'll say this for them: my PS3 is almost seven years old, hasn't died yet, and I don't have to pay Sony anything to watch Netflix on it.  Would buy again.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on May 21, 2013, 03:53:39 PM
The only reason I don't have one is because I was holding out on my father buying me a 360 to chat with him when he moved to Florida. Now it's too close to next gen time.

And I mostly want it for HD movies through Amazon Prime and (bleh) Madden, so no burning rush to buy one. But it would've been a PS3, most likely.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on June 04, 2013, 01:30:36 PM
So I go into the GameStop today to browse the used games pit.  The rep at the counter tells me that in about an hour, they were going to be having a 1 hour sale on Injustice: Gods Among Us.  Specifically, $50 off all versions of the game (standard, collector's, and joystick) for all platforms.  So I was excited about getting a new game for $10, right?

I went over to Moe's, had lunch, and came back right at 1PM for the start of the sale.  Apparently the way they were working it was that you order the game in the shop and it would be delivered to my house, as opposed to just, you know, taking a fresh copy off the shelf.  But whatevs, $10 fighting game.

We started the transaction process of collecting my info, and about halfway through, their ordering system starts to feel the burn of 10,000 GameStops all simultaneously ordering from the same queue.  After about half an hour of waiting for their system to respond, when it finally does come up, they say that the game is all sold out for all three systems, unless I want the fancy collectors edition with a silly statue.

I told the guy that this was the best sale ever, two thumbs up, 5 stars, would buy again, and that if they want to compete with Steam, they're going to have to do just a LITTLE better than this  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goreschach on June 04, 2013, 03:46:58 PM
So I go into the GameStop today
(http://mlkshk.com/r/8JRU)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on June 05, 2013, 09:56:42 AM
Basically the onion for gaming but fucking lol. At least someone can say it as a joke.

http://www.p4rgaming.com/kotaku-considers-taking-site-down-for-a-day-so-they-can-claim-they-went-24-hours-without-posting-bad-journalism/

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After Brian Ashcraft posted a joke tweet from Platinum’s Hideki Kamiya as legitimate news, Kotaku editor-in-chief Stephen Tolito threatened to take the site offline for a day just so they can claim they went 24 hours without posting awful journalism.

yuppp

While this is not the first time Kotaku has used Twitter as a source for their journalism, Atsushi Inaba of Platinum Games has publicly called out gaming journalism sites, including Kotaku, for using their staff member’s tweets as legitimate reporting. This has spurred Tolito to contemplate taking Kotaku offline for a day just so they can go 24 hours without embarrassing themselves.

“I was told by my boss that I have once again messed up,” wrote Ashcraft on his personal blog, “Look, I spent a long time writing the post, checking my sources and then editing thee post. What more do you want from me? Journalism is difficult. Back when I was in school, I got an A on all the papers I ever wrote. Hell, I even used Wikipedia as a source on some of them. This is just how skilled a writer I am and should be proof enough that I can do some real journalism.”

Tolito thinks otherwise writing on Kotaku, “We apologize once again for posting yet another piece of bad journalism. For years, many of you have complained that we have not gone a day without having to do a major retraction about an obviously fake rumor or just apologize for posting false news that we really should have double-checked before posting. Unfortunately, the people that we have hired are incompetent. I can’t stress this enough. The people who work at Kotaku should be fired, myself included.”

“You would think that after the hundredth time this has happened that we would have learned something by now,” lamented Tolito, “It is as if some of us lack the ability to feel shame. Maybe it was the way we grew up, being complimented by our parents no matter how shoddy our work was. I don’t even know the last time we have gone a whole day without posting something embarrassing. I think I might just shut the site down for a day just to say we have.”

Unfortunately for Tolito, it will take more than shutting down the site to help Kotaku’s reputation as staff can still post on their official Facebook page with things like a Borderlands onion ring.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on June 05, 2013, 12:36:40 PM
It's hilarious the people took his tweet as "news."

Kamiya is a well-known Twitter troll and his "next week in..." is one of his main schticks. (For those not familiar, someone will ask him something like "When will we hear more about Bayonetta 2?" and he will answer "next week in game magazines" when it is completely false)

I don't understand how people are still falling for this.  If you look at his Twitter it's clear that it's very tongue-in-cheek.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on June 05, 2013, 03:03:07 PM
Why can't they spell Totilo right? :(


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on June 06, 2013, 10:24:37 AM
Looks like Game Informer accidentally leaked Respawn's (former IW guys' new company) upcoming game (http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/6/4401938/respawns-first-game-is-titanfall-coming-to-xbox-one-xbox-360-and-pc), which looks like it'll be future-war CoD with mechs:

'...first-person shooter is being built on the Source engine and will launch in spring 2014. Players will become pilots controlling massive mechs called Titans, which can be piloted or programmed to follow along in battle.'


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goreschach on June 06, 2013, 01:42:45 PM
At least this one isn't using cryengine.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on June 22, 2013, 04:53:47 AM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXJKr_BP4vc

 :drill:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 02, 2013, 03:47:58 PM
Btw, Ubi got hacked. Password change emails have gone out.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on July 02, 2013, 04:38:59 PM
I got one of those, thought it was spam.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on July 02, 2013, 06:13:08 PM
Just a weird thing only learned watching an LP of the game, but you know the Syndicate FPS that got released that no one played because it was boring corridor shooter that shit all over a perfectly good license? It got double-shit upon because the main theme is a remix of the original game's music by Skrillex. Ouch.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on July 02, 2013, 09:25:10 PM
I randomly came across Planescape Torment's design document (http://www.rpgwatch.com/files/Files/00-0208/Torment_Vision_Statement_1997.pdf).  Pretty  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 03, 2013, 12:51:42 PM
Looks like Madden goes microtrans/DLC/whatever:

Quote
Madden Ultimate Team Subscription — Starting Week 1 of the NFL season and continuing through Week 17, receive one pack a week for use in Madden Ultimate Team. The Madden NFL 25 Anniversary Edition packs feature 2 rare players, 4 silver players and 4 bronze players.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on July 03, 2013, 12:54:36 PM
I randomly came across Planescape Torment's design document (http://www.rpgwatch.com/files/Files/00-0208/Torment_Vision_Statement_1997.pdf).  Pretty  :awesome_for_real:

That's pretty rad.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on July 03, 2013, 12:55:03 PM
Looks like Madden goes microtrans/DLC/whatever:

Quote
Madden Ultimate Team Subscription — Starting Week 1 of the NFL season and continuing through Week 17, receive one pack a week for use in Madden Ultimate Team. The Madden NFL 25 Anniversary Edition packs feature 2 rare players, 4 silver players and 4 bronze players.

Gotta catchbuy 'em all?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 03, 2013, 12:55:38 PM
Madden as a CCG is.... ridiculous to me.

Edit: But then, my old company pioneered that exact model with Gridiron on Facebook.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on July 03, 2013, 01:16:36 PM
Looks like Madden goes microtrans/DLC/whatever:

Quote
Madden Ultimate Team Subscription — Starting Week 1 of the NFL season and continuing through Week 17, receive one pack a week for use in Madden Ultimate Team. The Madden NFL 25 Anniversary Edition packs feature 2 rare players, 4 silver players and 4 bronze players.
That's not new. I'm certain it was in last year's but not sure if that was the first year.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on July 03, 2013, 01:27:30 PM
Madden as a CCG is.... ridiculous to me.

Edit: But then, my old company pioneered that exact model with Gridiron on Facebook.

It's something that now that I think about it, shocks me that it took them this long to come up with. Sports pretty much pioneered the idea of collectible cards in the first place, after all.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 03, 2013, 01:28:51 PM
Does that mean I can't field star players unless I buy them?

Theoretically, because fuck EA and Madden.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on July 03, 2013, 01:33:37 PM
It's only for the "Ultimate Team" thing, not regular old Madden, it seems like.

http://www.easports.com/madden-nfl/ultimate-team/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: sickrubik on July 03, 2013, 01:35:48 PM
It's only for the "Ultimate Team" thing, not regular old Madden, it seems like.

http://www.easports.com/madden-nfl/ultimate-team/

Yeah, it's basically FANTASY MADDEN FOOTBALL.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shannow on July 03, 2013, 01:35:55 PM
This is I assume the same as Fifa Ultimate Team which has been around for a couple of years.

1. You can play with all players if your playing just regular online matches or 1 player seasons etc. Ultimate cards are only used in Ultimate game modes. Usually there's a single player season and online season mode. You typically can win points in these games that can be used to buy packs , or individual cards in an auction house.

2. I'm ashamed to admit but Fifa Ultimate was fucking genius. Combining the addiction of collecting cards (maybe this pack will have Messi!) with an already decent game? Oh dear god I spent way to much money on this last year.  :oops:

3. If its like Fifa your players are under contract and you will need to feed them contract cards after a certain amount of games....players will have different levels of rareness (though with the NFL there's a much smaller pool of players to pick from so I don't know how that will work) and the very best (say a Rogers or a Brady) may end up being worth a LOT of coins...For instance a Messi or Ronaldo go for a cpl of mil each which can translate to a couple of hundred RL dollars (if you wanted to go that route)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soln on July 03, 2013, 02:24:21 PM
I randomly came across Planescape Torment's design document (http://www.rpgwatch.com/files/Files/00-0208/Torment_Vision_Statement_1997.pdf).  Pretty  :awesome_for_real:

Awesome!  Thank you.  But why does the link have 1997 and the doc has 2007 ("7/12/07") I wonder?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: sickrubik on July 03, 2013, 02:26:53 PM
I have a feeling someone put that together in 2007. Which is the only thing I can think of given the time on there as well.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on July 03, 2013, 10:42:27 PM
Anyone have any luck trading in console systems to Amazon?

My 360 is working intermittently just in time for me to want to play Bioshock:Infinite and ME3.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phred on July 04, 2013, 03:07:56 AM
I have a feeling someone put that together in 2007. Which is the only thing I can think of given the time on there as well.

I got my avatar out of that doc the last time it was posted here and while I don't remember when that was it was a lot longer ago than 2007. Here's a post from 2004 with the same avatar unless the board automatically updates them. http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=821.0


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on July 04, 2013, 06:56:49 AM
The board only knows your current avatar.  All your posts will use it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phred on July 04, 2013, 01:25:14 PM
The board only knows your current avatar.  All your posts will use it.

Ok I'm still sure my avatar is older than 2007 though :)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on July 04, 2013, 01:39:32 PM
The board automatically updates them.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on July 27, 2013, 11:49:03 AM
Dominions 4 (http://www.illwinter.com/dom4/) is being released at the end of next month and seems to promise pretty much the same as Dominions 3 did (which is a highly moddable turn-based strategy game taking lots of time and with some real hardcore fans)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on July 28, 2013, 03:42:14 PM
I found an interesting article regarding how Company of Heroes 2 takes all the Soviet/Russian military stereotypes and makes a game out of them. There's talk of it being offensive to Russians, which is of course understandable because the game is full of the kind of stupid "shallow history" that gets thrown around as insight.

But what really annoys me is that the German ubermensch stereotype always gets a free pass. The Nazis treated their own soldiers just as bad as the Soviets, but the CoH series never touches on it. I don't think a single game does, they all prefer the image created by the Rudels and Wittmanns (Hollywood style games without any attempt at historical accuracy notwithstanding).

http://www.polygon.com/2013/7/25/4553536/is-company-of-heroes-2-anti-russian


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 28, 2013, 05:22:55 PM
I'm confused. People care about being offensive to Russians?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kageru on July 28, 2013, 07:00:16 PM
Quote
“Russia now outside of Germany is our largest continental European market,” Newell was quoted as saying.

They buy things now...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on July 28, 2013, 09:23:43 PM
lol, Phil Fish got his feelings hurt by a videogame commentator, had a gigantic blowup on twitter, then cancelled Fez 2 and 'quit the industry'.

http://www.gamefront.com/did-phil-fish-just-angrily-cancel-fez-2-via-twitter/

(http://i.imgur.com/aZe3cPd.png)

Ahahahah I hope it's true. Part of me instantly wants to think he's playing at being Video Game Andy Kaufman just from his avatar but that'd really be giving him a lot of credit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on July 28, 2013, 09:44:26 PM
Yep, way to make "indie" developers not look like children Phil.

The fact these people run or are in any shape involved with an actual business is laughable.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on July 28, 2013, 09:49:14 PM
I enjoyed the bit I've played of Fez and I think it's a quality game well worth the money I paid.  It's a shame to not have Fez 2, if this is true.  


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on July 28, 2013, 09:52:17 PM
You know how you don't get abused on Twitter?

You cancel your fucking personal Twitter account like a normal person. Get a marketing shlub to run PR for your company's account and never look at it again while you rake in the cash.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 28, 2013, 10:16:18 PM
Indie Game the movie was one of the most hyperbole-filled pieces of shit I've ever seen. So, like, his response doesn't shock me at all.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on July 29, 2013, 02:43:41 AM
IG:TM looks incredibly obnoxious and cloying, a sort of distillation of the worst kind of indie pretensions.

"Ok now stare out a window and look pensive while musing about how you want to touch people on a human level with your game about farting cats."

It's a shame that a lot of the most prominent people in the indie games scene are giant douches, but I guess they become prominent largely via self-promotion so it makes sense.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on July 29, 2013, 05:44:55 AM
I'm confused. People care about being offensive to Russians?

It turns out there's life outside America after all. Who'd have thunk it?


---------


Regarding Fish, I think he's bipolar or something.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on July 29, 2013, 06:30:10 AM
Indie Game the movie was one of the most hyperbole-filled pieces of shit I've ever seen. So, like, his response doesn't shock me at all.

Yeah, they pretty much all come across as monstrous douchebags. For those who haven't seen, the main clip that's been going around in that respect is this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYpMxMPZ-Mk).


It's a shame that a lot of the most prominent people in the indie games scene are giant douches, but I guess they become prominent largely via self-promotion so it makes sense.

Well that, and if you spend five years focusing on making one video game in relative isolation your social skills probably atrophy a bit. Phil Fish is like the Dave Sim of video games. He did some brilliant work, but working on it likely drove him batshit insane.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on July 29, 2013, 09:21:44 AM
I read that the Russian government will shut down pirates via ISP cooperation now, so I think regular Russians might end up buying games for a change.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on July 29, 2013, 10:15:30 AM
You know how you don't get abused on Twitter?

You cancel your fucking personal Twitter account like a normal person. Get a marketing shlub to run PR for your company's account and never look at it again while you rake in the cash.

Or you could just not get butthurt when people criticize you on the Internet.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on July 29, 2013, 01:22:32 PM
But what really annoys me is that the German ubermensch stereotype always gets a free pass.

Yeah don't hold your breath waiting for a nuanced portrayal of Nazis in a video game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Stormwaltz on July 29, 2013, 02:25:49 PM
Or you could just not get butthurt when people criticize you on the Internet.

Personally, I would draw a line when people threaten to rape and murder my wife (http://gamerfury.tumblr.com/).

But maybe I'm oversensitive.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on July 29, 2013, 02:37:52 PM
Yes. Some might argue that Phil deserves what he gets since he threatened his ex-partner with violence as shown in the movie, if I remember correctly. However gamers are really broken when it comes to this sort of stuff. Penny Arcade has more here:

http://penny-arcade.com/report/article/swimming-in-a-sea-of-shit-the-internets-war-against-creatives


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on July 29, 2013, 02:57:47 PM
Or you could just not get butthurt when people criticize you on the Internet.

Personally, I would draw a line when people threaten to rape and murder my wife (http://gamerfury.tumblr.com/).

But maybe I'm oversensitive.

See, I don't even take those seriously because the Internet is full of hyperbolic douchenozzles who think their voice matters. Though I can see how that shit might be some folks a bit pissed. But the Fez stuff? He can take his special snowflakes and fuck right off.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on July 29, 2013, 03:06:43 PM

See, I don't even take those seriously because the Internet is full of hyperbolic douchenozzles who think their voice matters. Though I can see how that shit might be some folks a bit pissed.

I can imagine being legitimately worried.  If you're being inundated with that sort of hate mail, it has to eat at you that one of them might be a nut job who actually might hurt your family, even if 99.9999...% of them are angry 13 year olds that didn't like your video game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on July 29, 2013, 03:13:55 PM
Then you get the police involved if you are that worried. Taking your ball and going home like a child is not the way to fix that.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on July 29, 2013, 03:15:05 PM
See, I don't even take those seriously because the Internet is full of hyperbolic douchenozzles who think their voice matters. Though I can see how that shit might be some folks a bit pissed.
I can imagine being legitimately worried.  If you're being inundated with that sort of hate mail, it has to eat at you that one of them might be a nut job who actually might hurt your family, even if 99.9999...% of them are angry 13 year olds that didn't like your video game.
Yes. People have shown themselves very capable of tracking down targets' personal information and it's not a big leap from there to a physical escalation. Mike Krahulik sic'd the PA mob on Ocean Marketing (http://www.penny-arcade.com/resources/an-update1.html) a few years back and this is the same sort of thing, though less organized.

Edit: fixed names


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on July 29, 2013, 03:29:19 PM
The only thing worse than twitter drama is games journos feeding on twitter drama.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on July 29, 2013, 03:48:01 PM
Then you get the police involved if you are that worried. Taking your ball and going home like a child is not the way to fix that.

I don't know that the police are going to do anything in 99% of cases of "someone threatened to kill me over the internet."

In my near total ignorance on the topic, I suspect it's less personal safety fears and more "fuck this shit" frustration.  It's one thing to be able to shrug off someone saying "fuck you" occasionally, it's another to be flooded with dozens or hundreds of messages from people who are specifically trying to piss you off, saying shit they designed to deliberately get you mad or sad or whatever, because it's mildly funny to them.  You can say "well, grow a thicker skin" but there's the counter argument that you shouldn't have to.  Dude's making video games, not deciding who lives and who dies, why should he have to put up with this shit?  Or maybe he's just bad at dealing with people in general and, realizing that, has decided that rather than fuck up by dealing with these kinds of people badly, he's just not going to deal with them at all.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on July 29, 2013, 03:57:36 PM
Here's the thing that makes Fez-boy so ridiculous. I know almost nothing about him other than he made a game and from the 5-minute clip of him talking about how "Japanese games suck" at GDC. But just from that little slice, I see a guy who thinks that he can say what he wants, no matter how insulting, about someone else's creative product but gets "take my ball and going home" whenever someone criticizes him.

If you want to talk shit, be prepared to get shit back in return. If you are going to go out there and say things like "Japanese games all suck" you better gird your loins for people saying some awful shit to you. If you can't handle what you are subjecting others to, maybe you SHOULD shut the fuck up and stay out of the public eye even if that eye is the jaundiced, Cheeto-encrusted Eye of Sauron that is the Interwebz.

None of that is to say that the rapey threats against a motherfucker's wife and kids is something one should just "brush off." The shit Fez-boy got pissed over? Not even in the same ballpark.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on July 29, 2013, 04:27:59 PM
I don't know that the police are going to do anything in 99% of cases of "someone threatened to kill me over the internet.

It depends. They would take a threat seriously if you had a reasonable belief you could be harmed. If someone uncovered information about you, and threatened you and your family directly on the internet, I think the police would at least take a look. If some random dude threatens to kill you then probably not. But then, I wouldn't be all that worried if some random Internet douche threatened to kill me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Bzalthek on July 29, 2013, 04:59:54 PM
I'm kinda ok about being a dick on the internet.  We're all dicks at times.  But physical, real life threats?  That's above and beyond being a dick and I really don't think it should be tolerated.  I'm kinda conflicted.  I like anonymity of the internet and the freedom to say what you feel but I don't really think real life threats should be afforded the same protections.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Stormwaltz on July 29, 2013, 06:01:27 PM
The shit Fez-boy got pissed over? Not even in the same ballpark.

Sorry for causing a quasi-derail. I agree with this - it's not in the same ballpark. I'm not informed enough to judge Fish as a person, but he's coming off as "precious."

There are some things I can't shrug off as "eh, internet," though, and that's what I was responding to. Hate me, insult me, threaten me? I'll try to keep calm and canter on. But do the same to my family, who have nothing to do with my work aside from it paying for their food and shelter, and I will take it seriously.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on July 29, 2013, 06:04:01 PM
I'm pretty sure that given enough time to search you could find an incident of someone threatening Fish's family or pets or something.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: lamaros on July 29, 2013, 06:18:25 PM
I'm pretty sure that given enough time to search you could find an incident of someone threatening Fish's family or pets or something.

And vice versa. The guy is a thin skinned arsehole - it's not like he's an angelic snowflake who is being persecuted by the world.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Miasma on July 29, 2013, 06:22:32 PM
Fez was fun for about forty five minutes, then it got real tiresome real fast.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on July 29, 2013, 09:14:11 PM
Hipster indie trash TBH.
That game winning awards gives indie genre a bad name.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on July 29, 2013, 09:35:07 PM
For the most part the IGF Awards consist of guys giving awards to their friends.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 29, 2013, 09:42:15 PM
Correct.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on July 30, 2013, 05:08:38 AM
Realms of Arkania was just released on steam as a total pile of crap that has pretty much everything broken or unfinished  :ye_gods:
(guess it's my own fault for thinking they'd manage to do a graphically updated version of the old game and not totally muck the release)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on July 30, 2013, 06:44:24 AM
Yes. Some might argue that Phil deserves what he gets since he threatened his ex-partner with violence as shown in the movie, if I remember correctly. However gamers are really broken when it comes to this sort of stuff. Penny Arcade has more here:

http://penny-arcade.com/report/article/swimming-in-a-sea-of-shit-the-internets-war-against-creatives
Please don't ever quote Ken Buchera pieces like they're insightful or informative or well written thanks.

Also I could give a shit if a 1000 people threaten me over the internet because so far how many devs have gotten home invaded, shot, stabbed, or had a fucking pie thrown at them after they said a dumb thing and got twitter hate? Zero? I'm pretty willing to bet zero.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on July 30, 2013, 07:47:46 AM
I don't know if any game has been canceled because of threats, but if that were ever the case I think it should be respected.

A threat is a threat. It's bad for everyone, except eventually you Fabricated, but if you have any kind of anxiety disorder it can cripple your life no matter how real it is.
I don't like this Fish guy one bit, but threats are just disgusting and no one should question how the victim of it chooses to cope.

In fact, the point of a threat is seldom to physically harm someone, it is to inflict psychological harm and emotional distress.

Do not blame victims of violence and cowardice.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on July 30, 2013, 07:53:58 AM
I'm not victim blaming; I'm just saying that if you're going to be made neurotic by twitter threats or assholes on the internet in general you're going to have a very miserable life if you have any contact with the public at large.

Maybe it's just because I grew up with this shit. I've had idiots threatening to kill me online since I started playing counterstrike and TFC. Hell, I got a death threat or two over the phone every month when I worked for my county government as a record keeper when I'd have to dig up divorce decrees for disturbed individuals. You kinda get over it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on July 30, 2013, 01:39:57 PM
I think there's a really good chance that this is some kind of stunt in any case. Note the Andy Kaufman twitter avatar.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 30, 2013, 01:40:41 PM
It's a shitty stunt when the guy performing it is sort of a shitheel bitch and there's ample video of him behaving like a shitheel bitch.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on July 30, 2013, 01:42:06 PM
Shitheel bitches often see themselves in Kaufman.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 30, 2013, 01:42:25 PM
I feel like someone should inform them that's not how it works.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on July 30, 2013, 01:46:14 PM
If Fish wants to do the equivalent of wrestling women and being a heel in the Video Game industry he has a lot to learn, because there are a lot of people better at it than him.

Also seriously someone tell Cliffy B to fuck off of the internet and never speak again.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on July 30, 2013, 03:05:59 PM
Cliffy B is still alive?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on July 30, 2013, 04:06:07 PM
I'm not victim blaming; I'm just saying that if you're going to be made neurotic by twitter threats or assholes on the internet in general you're going to have a very miserable life if you have any contact with the public at large.

I don't know about that, people over the internet - especially in the gaming sphere - act like raving jackholes in a way that doesn't happen in real life often.  You can't go up to your secretary, call her an ugly cunt, say you're going to rape her daughter and that you hope she dies, and then go back to your office without expecting some serious talks with HR in your immediate future.  I don't think it's unreasonable to not want to be insulted and I can certainly empathize with someone who just decided to not deal with that level of shit.

Yes, there are some jobs where you have to deal with complete dickbags in which this kind of environment is normal, and yes, if you can't take the occasional jab without breaking down you're probably going to have trouble dealing with people.  But I don't think it follows that it's normal or excusable to act like that, or that normal people should be expected to just put up with it.

(I suppose this is less in line with the whole Fish thing, which I think has a history I don't know much about, and more to do with the general atmosphere of WTF that's been sloshed in to the same bucket in a lot of news stories and podcasts, like the CoD patch notes that resulted in the community rep getting death threats for making balance changes)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on July 30, 2013, 04:48:05 PM
I'm not victim blaming; I'm just saying that if you're going to be made neurotic by twitter threats or assholes on the internet in general you're going to have a very miserable life if you have any contact with the public at large.

Or, you know, just not have a Twitter account. I honestly don't see why that's not an option for these jackholes instead of just cancelling the game. How often do you have to deal with the raving nutjobs if you aren't on twitter or forums?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on July 30, 2013, 05:32:57 PM
Social media is, generally speaking, a net marketing plus, even with the troll population.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: KallDrexx on July 30, 2013, 05:44:26 PM
It's posted on the Polytron website (http://polytroncorporation.com/fez-ii-cancelled) so unless it's an elaborate hoax it's true.

I'm not too sad about it, although I seem to be the only one that didn't find Fez that amazing (though it could be indie platformer fatigue). 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on July 30, 2013, 06:16:10 PM
Social media is, generally speaking, a net marketing plus, even with the troll population.

Based on what exactly? How is the head of the company being on Twitter do anything but open you up for the scenario we see here, or them saying something even dumber off the cuff and damaging the brand?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on July 30, 2013, 06:58:00 PM
This is a bit of a special case, because he's Phil Fish and odds are he's trolling everyone to start with. A counter-example would be how much goodwill Mark Rosewater's blog and twitter account generate for Magic. When done right it's a big enough positive that almost everyone will try to do it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on July 30, 2013, 08:01:48 PM
Social media is, generally speaking, a net marketing plus, even with the troll population.

This. You can't be an indie without a social presence and it is a HUGE audience builder for someone who is never going to get an audience otherwise.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on July 30, 2013, 10:17:58 PM
I don't know about that, people over the internet - especially in the gaming sphere - act like raving jackholes in a way that doesn't happen in real life often.  You can't go up to your secretary, call her an ugly cunt, say you're going to rape her daughter and that you hope she dies, and then go back to your office without expecting some serious talks with HR in your immediate future.  I don't think it's unreasonable to not want to be insulted and I can certainly empathize with someone who just decided to not deal with that level of shit.

Internet hate is easy to propagate but also easy to ignore.

Look, if you are in any way a public figure someone somewhere is going to say a mean thing about you. Using that as an excuse to quit, to claim that there is some sort of war against "creatives" (is this war more or less hard fought than the war against Christmas?) or whatever the fuck is pathetic and lazy.

Ben Kuchera is an asshole and a bully. Phil Fish is an asshole and a bully. These are two of the last guys who should be complaining about mean people. "Asshole's feelings hurt by other assholes." Who cares? Ben Kuchera went on a Twitter tirade a while back about how someone should become broke and penniless for writing an article an emulation. Now I'm supposed to feel sorry for him and his friends?

That's not to say assholes making threats are in the right, but at the end of the day I find it hard to care, especially when the people complaining about them are doing the same things themselves.

"Phil Fish upset other people on internet acting like Phil Fish."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on July 30, 2013, 10:38:26 PM
I just want to say I fully support Fab's pie-throwing mafia initiative.

Should probably also pack a squirting flower just to be safe.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on August 12, 2013, 09:25:01 PM
Quote
Stardock is pleased to announce that it has secured Atari's rights to the classic franchise, Star Control with the intent to develop a new Star Control game. Development on the new game would begin this Fall with a release date to be determined later.

"We would be looking at Star Control 2 as a major source of inspiration," said Brad Wardell, President & CEO of Stardock.

Welp.

Edit: Oh, I guess this happened in late July.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on August 12, 2013, 10:04:46 PM
Star Control... Brad Wardell, President & CEO of Stardock.

SOME *CAMPERS* ARE NOT SO GOOD FOR *GAMES*


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ezrast on August 13, 2013, 01:35:21 PM
Whoa, that is out of left field. I was under the impression that the rights to Star Control were, like, irretrievably fragmented between multiple defunct companies. Atari's just been sitting on them? I guess it's a cult-y enough classic that there isn't a ton of marketing value to be gained there but it's still strange that that corpse has gone relatively unhumped until now.

I should get around to finishing SC2.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on August 13, 2013, 01:56:39 PM
There's a bunch of stuff they don't have control over still I believe - I'm pretty sure that the only thing Stardock actually bought was the name and maybe the new stuff from SC 3.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: shiznitz on August 15, 2013, 01:11:15 PM
All they need is the name.  What other value is there?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on August 16, 2013, 09:53:14 AM
Jennifer Hepler, the writer that everyone in videogame fandom hates for some reason or another has quit Bioware, partially due to the various death threats she has gotten. (http://metro.co.uk/2013/08/16/bioware-writer-quits-after-death-threats-to-family-3925970/)

Polygon also mentions this but quotes her as saying that she was mostly quitting to write a book.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Reg on August 16, 2013, 11:16:23 AM
So why do people hate her?  Does she write legitimately awful stories destroying beloved characters or is this just an over-reaction from the Tali Sweat Gang?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on August 16, 2013, 11:24:40 AM

This xbox thingy where they give you 2 games free every month is getting good.  I just got Dead Rising 2 and that thingy what goes with it, which I have but haven't played on the PC.  I'd probably like it better on the xbox anyway.  Last time I got Crackdown, dunno what that is yet and before that, Assassin's Creed 2 - which I have for PC and hardly played too.   I noticed, however, that there's all these Dungeon and Dragon games that I've never heard of... what are they?  Like little campaigns from the olden days?  Or are they full sized rpg games?  Maybe this is why I like the 360 so much.  The first and sixteenth of every month is like xmas.  They've also announced Diablo 3 for the xbox.  I don't know if it's ready or not.  I do know how much everyone loved it.  :p  Including me... I think I played it for several hours before giving it away.  I don't think I'll be buying that one for the 360!

I'm so glad everyone here using the name 360.  I keep forgetting which letter gets capitalised.

You can call me Chuck.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on August 16, 2013, 11:39:39 AM
The Capcom D&D games are old arcade games, basically fantasy versions of Final Fight.

There are also some vaguely Diablo-style D&D games on XBLA I think. Not sure if those are actually D&D games officially or not.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on August 16, 2013, 11:55:49 AM
Jennifer Hepler, the writer that everyone in videogame fandom hates for some reason or another has quit Bioware, partially due to the various death threats she has gotten. (http://metro.co.uk/2013/08/16/bioware-writer-quits-after-death-threats-to-family-3925970/)

Polygon also mentions this but quotes her as saying that she was mostly quitting to write a book.

The US government really needs to get off their asses about this stuff. There needs to be serious repercussions to people who make death threats on the internet, in any form.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on August 16, 2013, 12:03:03 PM
All they need is the name.  What other value is there?
The races and the ships.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Stormwaltz on August 16, 2013, 12:04:09 PM
Jennifer Hepler, the writer that everyone in videogame fandom hates for some reason or another has quit Bioware, partially due to the various death threats she has gotten. (http://metro.co.uk/2013/08/16/bioware-writer-quits-after-death-threats-to-family-3925970/)

The death threats were not a factor in her decision to leave. She's emailed Metro with a correction.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 16, 2013, 12:08:07 PM
A writer everyone hates quit their job to write.

I uh, what?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 16, 2013, 12:12:04 PM
(ASSUME ANY LINK TO ED IS NSFW) https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Jennifer_Hepler

lol


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ginaz on August 16, 2013, 12:18:11 PM
Jennifer Hepler, the writer that everyone in videogame fandom hates for some reason or another has quit Bioware, partially due to the various death threats she has gotten. (http://metro.co.uk/2013/08/16/bioware-writer-quits-after-death-threats-to-family-3925970/)

Polygon also mentions this but quotes her as saying that she was mostly quitting to write a book.

The US government really needs to get off their asses about this stuff. There needs to be serious repercussions to people who make death threats on the internet, in any form.

Threats of any kind should be harshly dealt with by the law.  General douchbaggery should not, though some countries (like the UK) are prosecuting people for being dicks online.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on August 16, 2013, 12:31:42 PM
Like I said before, I don't believe in laws anymore.  I think a group of people from one side of the issue should get together and duke it out with the other side and eat the bodies and when there's no one left, there will be many happy people.  I call this the Shut the fuck up and die you motherfucking retard method.  I tested it on fish.  It works. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on August 16, 2013, 12:51:36 PM
I don't really think the government should be in the business investigating random non-specific death threats from online trolls and assholes after a kid got jailed for joking on League of Legends that he was going to "Shoot up his school" and "eat everyone's still-beating hearts" (which is punctuated with "lol, jk").

What a fucking waste of time and resources.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on August 16, 2013, 01:06:57 PM
Like I said before, I don't believe in laws anymore.  I think a group of people from one side of the issue should get together and duke it out with the other side and eat the bodies and when there's no one left, there will be many happy people.  I call this the Shut the fuck up and die you motherfucking retard method.  I tested it on fish.  It works. 

Until the point that the strongest people get together and decide they are in charge.  Those strong people, they're not very nice at all.

I don't really think the government should be in the business investigating random non-specific death threats from online trolls and assholes after a kid got jailed for joking on League of Legends that he was going to "Shoot up his school" and "eat everyone's still-beating hearts" (which is punctuated with "lol, jk").

What a fucking waste of time and resources.

Until it turns out, oh it wasn't LOL JK and now your kid/ wife/ dog is dead.  So yeah, I'm fine with it.

In fact I'm all for throwing more of them in jail while freeing the potheads because only one of those groups was being a disruptive with demonstrated lack of impulse control and understanding of what a fucktard they're being. Plus the internet attitude of making tough-guy threats is toxic and doesn't belong in a society. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on August 16, 2013, 01:19:16 PM
I suck at being an internet bully.  No one takes me seriously.  I think it's because of all the  :heart: s in my posts.  I'm also a really polite anarchist.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on August 16, 2013, 01:22:00 PM
Until it turns out, oh it wasn't LOL JK and now your kid/ wife/ dog is dead.  So yeah, I'm fine with it.

In fact I'm all for throwing more of them in jail while freeing the potheads because only one of those groups was being a disruptive with demonstrated lack of impulse control and understanding of what a fucktard they're being. Plus the internet attitude of making tough-guy threats is toxic and doesn't belong in a society.  
It'd be worth having someone get blown up every now and then to not have to waste the police's time with every internet troll who ever posted an anonymous death threat or some stupid shit in a comment field or over email or whatever. Also what are you going to do if they reside in a different country?

Again: A complete waste of time.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on August 16, 2013, 02:52:17 PM
I'm not sure you'd feel the same if internet whackjobs threatened your family over a game. I certainly wouldn't.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on August 16, 2013, 02:54:17 PM
Blow up his family and find out.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on August 16, 2013, 03:05:36 PM
I'm not sure you'd feel the same if internet whackjobs threatened your family over a game. I certainly wouldn't.
I've had a complete whackjob who used to be my friend in K-12 literally threaten me and my family in the last year, the police didn't really do anything about it, and I don't particularly care because hey, I'm still here aren't I?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on August 16, 2013, 03:26:23 PM
Well that's horrible.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: tazelbain on August 16, 2013, 03:32:18 PM
Like I said before, I don't believe in laws anymore.  I think a group of people from one side of the issue should get together and duke it out with the other side and eat the bodies and when there's no one left, there will be many happy people.  I call this the Shut the fuck up and die you motherfucking retard method.  I tested it on fish.  It works.  
Do you get in a lot of disagreements with fish?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Salamok on August 16, 2013, 03:33:35 PM
So why do people hate her?  Does she write legitimately awful stories destroying beloved characters or is this just an over-reaction from the Tali Sweat Gang?

IIRC wasn't she the dumbass writer that was quoted as thinking video games are stupid or some equally stupid remark that was sure to alienate her from the audience she was hired to write for?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on August 16, 2013, 03:47:49 PM
She said the least favorite thing for her working in the industry was playing the games, and that she would like to fast forward through combat.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Stormwaltz on August 16, 2013, 03:51:20 PM
IIRC wasn't she the dumbass writer that was quoted as thinking video games are stupid or some equally stupid remark that was sure to alienate her from the audience she was hired to write for?

Someone dug up an interview from years previous in which she said she had trouble with combat and preferred the talky bits, and since she was a lead on DA2 and they "didn't like" combat in DA2, she was obviously responsible for making it suck.

You know, internet logic.

Also, Jenny does not silently suffer bullshit. So when she retorted, internet people got all "How dare she talk back to us?"

You know, internet treatment of women.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on August 16, 2013, 04:03:13 PM
The Internet is a true festering gob of pretend villainy and anonymous horribleness.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Salamok on August 16, 2013, 04:08:26 PM
She said the least favorite thing for her working in the industry was playing the games, and that she would like to fast forward through combat.

Not as bad as I thought, still not the smoothest quote.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Reg on August 16, 2013, 04:42:30 PM
So she's getting all of this crap because she likes the story part better than the shooty part?  Sheesh, her and millions of other women out there. Unless someone has a legitimate problem with her writing I'm goiing to assume this is all internet douchebaggery.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ragnoros on August 16, 2013, 04:46:51 PM
So she's getting all of this crap because she likes the story part better than the shooty part?  Sheesh, her and millions of other women out there. Unless someone has a legitimate problem with her writing I'm going to assume this is all internet douchebaggery.

This is always a safe assumption.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 16, 2013, 07:39:37 PM
I just picked up Scrolls because one of my old friends said I shouldn't think about it as a CCG or anything like that, rather to think of it as a sort of HoMaM with Deckbuilding.

I hope it's not that. Or I will make him give me $20 I didn't really have. Weeeeeeee.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on August 16, 2013, 07:56:02 PM
Sounds fishy.  Like fish-in-a-can fishy.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 16, 2013, 08:05:13 PM
It's not quite HoMaM/King's Bounty. But it's not quite Magic either. I don't know what's going on here yet. It's certainly not fucking Minecraft though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Morat20 on August 16, 2013, 10:07:15 PM
So she's getting all of this crap because she likes the story part better than the shooty part?  Sheesh, her and millions of other women out there. Unless someone has a legitimate problem with her writing I'm goiing to assume this is all internet douchebaggery.
Offhand, if I was female? i doubt I'd ever read a damn thing in comments. Ever.

More than raging douchbaggery, there is incredibly misogyny.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on August 17, 2013, 09:08:08 AM
The Internet is a true festering gob of pretend villainy and anonymous horribleness.
Mind you, so's The Metro and yet people believed what they printed.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Signe on August 20, 2013, 09:46:41 AM
Will the new xBox One controller work on the 360?  It looks peachy.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on August 20, 2013, 09:56:45 AM
I just picked up Scrolls because one of my old friends said I shouldn't think about it as a CCG or anything like that, rather to think of it as a sort of HoMaM with Deckbuilding.

I hope it's not that. Or I will make him give me $20 I didn't really have. Weeeeeeee.

I've been playing it a bit, it's not very sticky. There's some fun ideas in there, but the fact that there are only three decks, and only about 50(ish) cards for each means that the depth and variety are pretty limited. After about a dozen games you've seen 99% of the game, or so I felt.

It's also kinda grindy to get cards.

edit: For comparison, Hearthstone apparently has 489 cards straight out of the gate, more than treble what scrolls has after months of beta.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on August 20, 2013, 10:21:46 AM
Yea Scrolls isn't exactly the best thing ever. In fact, I'm not even sure its good or should have any sort of continued development.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on August 20, 2013, 11:16:02 AM
Might & Magic X on steam!
...it's early access  :oh_i_see:
...it's 29,99€   :oh_i_see:
...requires Uplay  :uhrr:

Guess I'll check back when it's ready to release if it's so good that I'll get it despite Uplay  :heartbreak:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Selby on August 20, 2013, 03:46:09 PM
Might & Magic X on steam!
After the abortion that was IX, I'll never pay full price or first day release for that series, despite another publisher and development team.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on August 21, 2013, 12:57:36 AM
Other than a one time activation, M&M X doesn't require UPlay.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on August 21, 2013, 03:33:27 AM
The fact they charged your credit card immediately and you still gotta call them and tell them you actually bought AND PLAYING it is pretty much nonsensical to me.
But fuck it, I never enjoyed Might & Magic.
Fuck nostalgia.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on August 21, 2013, 04:53:10 AM
The fact they charged your credit card immediately and you still gotta call them and tell them you actually bought AND PLAYING it is pretty much nonsensical to me.
But fuck it, I never enjoyed Might & Magic.
Fuck nostalgia.


Might&Magic is probably my all-time favourite western rpg series except for IX (Suikoden being my favourite Japanese rpg series...except for IV).
and in both cases I mean the games in the original series and not heroes or tactics or anything like that


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lemming on August 23, 2013, 12:58:26 AM
Might & Magic X on steam!
...it's early access  :oh_i_see:
...it's 29,99€   :oh_i_see:
...requires Uplay  :uhrr:

Guess I'll check back when it's ready to release if it's so good that I'll get it despite Uplay  :heartbreak:
It's also grid based and has "tactical combat."  They are attempting to channel M&M IV and V with this one, and good luck to them.  There is a niche market out there who enjoy this type of RPG experience, myself included.  If they can get beyond the bugs and the angry fans demanding M&M: Skyrim, they may carve out a nice little spot for themselves in the market.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on August 23, 2013, 02:47:35 AM
Might & Magic X on steam!
...it's early access  :oh_i_see:
...it's 29,99€   :oh_i_see:
...requires Uplay  :uhrr:

Guess I'll check back when it's ready to release if it's so good that I'll get it despite Uplay  :heartbreak:
It's also grid based and has "tactical combat."  They are attempting to channel M&M IV and V with this one, and good luck to them.  There is a niche market out there who enjoy this type of RPG experience, myself included.  If they can get beyond the bugs and the angry fans demanding M&M: Skyrim, they may carve out a nice little spot for themselves in the market.

I didn'y mention those since I don't consider them things that would make me skip the game (also didn't mention the fact that there is no "front/back row" anymore with all 4 (instead of 6) characters being in the front because while I think I don't like it I can't be sure without trying it first)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on August 23, 2013, 08:50:07 PM
Actually M&M X looks like Dungeon Master.  Grimrock to you goddamn kids.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maledict on August 24, 2013, 09:24:11 AM
Um, not really.

M&M was grid based and turn based for years before it made the jump to proper 3D in M&M6. The fact it's turn based separates it from Dngeon Master as it completely changes how combat works. Back in the days when grid based dungeon crawlers were all the rage, the difference between Real-Time and turn based was the key divider line between games.

Of course, Dungeon Master remains the best dungeon crawling game ever made but for me its always been M&M3 that held a soft spot in my heart of the turn based games. I hope the new one really captures that sense of epic scale the good M&M games had - traversing an entire continent with different landscapes and monsters.

(I also wish they would delink from the heroes games a bit more. M&Ms best monsters don't fit into the heroes games so don't appear in this or the card game or any of the other stuff they have out out which is a shame as they were one of the things that separated M&M from other fantasy games).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on August 24, 2013, 09:34:40 AM
Eye of the Beholder?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on August 24, 2013, 01:39:18 PM
Dungeon Master would be the best game ever, if I could have figured out how to defeat the last boss.   :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maledict on August 24, 2013, 06:18:37 PM
Eye of the Beholder was great (and the sequel even better) but Dungeon Master really  was in a class of its own. The game basically sold the Atari ST for a couple of years.

And re. The last boss, do you mean the dragon or Lord Chaos?

The dragon could be killed a number of ways. Obviously you could ballet dance into death although it was incredibly fast and deadly. You could stair dance it also. Easiest was was to use the freeze time boxes you had picked up throughout the game and then drop as many level 6 poison clouds on it as possible. It had no resistance to poison.

If you mean Lord Chaos, then you needed the upgrade flux staff from level 14 after killing the dragon. You have to have him in a flux cage and then use the fuse ability. The problem was he would always move out of that, so the solution was to cage him in flux cages - he couldn't move into a square with a cage, so if you surrounded him with them you could then fuse his ass and win the game. It wasnt possible to neat him via normal means, and the other monsters on his level (the black flames etc) would always regenerate.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phred on August 27, 2013, 05:56:19 AM
Eye of the Beholder was great (and the sequel even better) but Dungeon Master really  was in a class of its own. The game basically sold the Atari ST for a couple of years.

And re. The last boss, do you mean the dragon or Lord Chaos?

The dragon could be killed a number of ways. Obviously you could ballet dance into death although it was incredibly fast and deadly. You could stair dance it also. Easiest was was to use the freeze time boxes you had picked up throughout the game and then drop as many level 6 poison clouds on it as possible. It had no resistance to poison.

If you mean Lord Chaos, then you needed the upgrade flux staff from level 14 after killing the dragon. You have to have him in a flux cage and then use the fuse ability. The problem was he would always move out of that, so the solution was to cage him in flux cages - he couldn't move into a square with a cage, so if you surrounded him with them you could then fuse his ass and win the game. It wasnt possible to neat him via normal means, and the other monsters on his level (the black flames etc) would always regenerate.

I remember beating DM1 and feeling pretty good about myself then DM2 I couldn't last 40 ft into the damn dungeon :(


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on August 27, 2013, 07:18:29 AM
Eye of the Beholder was great (and the sequel even better) but Dungeon Master really  was in a class of its own. The game basically sold the Atari ST for a couple of years.

And re. The last boss, do you mean the dragon or Lord Chaos?

The dragon could be killed a number of ways. Obviously you could ballet dance into death although it was incredibly fast and deadly. You could stair dance it also. Easiest was was to use the freeze time boxes you had picked up throughout the game and then drop as many level 6 poison clouds on it as possible. It had no resistance to poison.

If you mean Lord Chaos, then you needed the upgrade flux staff from level 14 after killing the dragon. You have to have him in a flux cage and then use the fuse ability. The problem was he would always move out of that, so the solution was to cage him in flux cages - he couldn't move into a square with a cage, so if you surrounded him with them you could then fuse his ass and win the game. It wasnt possible to neat him via normal means, and the other monsters on his level (the black flames etc) would always regenerate.

This entire statement is why the terrorists hate us.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lemming on August 27, 2013, 07:24:47 AM
Eye of the Beholder was great (and the sequel even better) but Dungeon Master really  was in a class of its own. The game basically sold the Atari ST for a couple of years.

And re. The last boss, do you mean the dragon or Lord Chaos?

The dragon could be killed a number of ways. Obviously you could ballet dance into death although it was incredibly fast and deadly. You could stair dance it also. Easiest was was to use the freeze time boxes you had picked up throughout the game and then drop as many level 6 poison clouds on it as possible. It had no resistance to poison.

If you mean Lord Chaos, then you needed the upgrade flux staff from level 14 after killing the dragon. You have to have him in a flux cage and then use the fuse ability. The problem was he would always move out of that, so the solution was to cage him in flux cages - he couldn't move into a square with a cage, so if you surrounded him with them you could then fuse his ass and win the game. It wasnt possible to neat him via normal means, and the other monsters on his level (the black flames etc) would always regenerate.

This entire statement is why the terrorists hate us.
Because we owned consoles and games in the 80s and because we talk about strategies on killing dragons and lords?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maledict on August 27, 2013, 07:42:30 AM
Eye of the Beholder was great (and the sequel even better) but Dungeon Master really  was in a class of its own. The game basically sold the Atari ST for a couple of years.

And re. The last boss, do you mean the dragon or Lord Chaos?

The dragon could be killed a number of ways. Obviously you could ballet dance into death although it was incredibly fast and deadly. You could stair dance it also. Easiest was was to use the freeze time boxes you had picked up throughout the game and then drop as many level 6 poison clouds on it as possible. It had no resistance to poison.

If you mean Lord Chaos, then you needed the upgrade flux staff from level 14 after killing the dragon. You have to have him in a flux cage and then use the fuse ability. The problem was he would always move out of that, so the solution was to cage him in flux cages - he couldn't move into a square with a cage, so if you surrounded him with them you could then fuse his ass and win the game. It wasnt possible to neat him via normal means, and the other monsters on his level (the black flames etc) would always regenerate.

This entire statement is why the terrorists hate us.

I was so oddly proud for remembering that!

But, on the other hand, dungeon master was the single game that defined my childhood. I completed it multiple times and its what got me into RPGs in general. I cant remember crap from other games I played at the time.

(Other than treasure island dizzy being an ass for killing me for dropping the snorkel underwater!)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Soulflame on August 27, 2013, 09:58:11 AM
I couldn't figure out the flux cages.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on August 27, 2013, 03:53:18 PM
But, on the other hand, dungeon master was the single game that defined my childhood. I completed it multiple times and its what got me into RPGs in general. I cant remember crap from other games I played at the time.

Same here, although I would add Bard's Tale I and Ultima IV to the list. Regarding Lord Chaos, beside the fluxcage spamming, I distinctly remember that I couldn't figure out the "ZoKathRa" spell (which allows you to free the power gem you then put on the firestaff). Err, I thought Zokathra was a proper name, so me and my father spent hours on the last level after we killed the damn dragon (with the endless ballet dance tactic) :P



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on August 27, 2013, 03:58:26 PM
ADVENT (Adventure, Colossal Cave, etc) on the mainframe at my grandfather's office was the one that captivated me (xyzzy, plugh etc). Then it was a couple years of AD&D and Atari's Adventure until I got a C-64 for programming and a copy of Ultima IV.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on August 27, 2013, 05:48:34 PM
Eye of the Beholder was great (and the sequel even better) but Dungeon Master really  was in a class of its own. The game basically sold the Atari ST for a couple of years.
That's because the ST was shit and real gamers had an Amiga.  :grin:

And I really wish someone would unfuck the legal minefield around EotB. A couple of years ago I'd have just written it off as impossible but we've had a whole bunch of 'impossible' things show up on GoG (etc) or had the licences finally sold on in that timeframe, so maybe one day....


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on August 27, 2013, 05:55:27 PM
Eye of the Beholder was great (and the sequel even better) but Dungeon Master really  was in a class of its own. The game basically sold the Atari ST for a couple of years.
That's because the ST was shit and real gamers had an Amiga.  :grin:

And I really wish someone would unfuck the legal minefield around EotB. A couple of years ago I'd have just written it off as impossible but we've had a whole bunch of 'impossible' things show up on GoG (etc) or had the licences finally sold on in that timeframe, so maybe one day....

I think I already  :mob: you in another topic about the Atari ST vs Amiga debate  :grin:, but anyway I'll put on my broken record as well since I hope GoG wil finally unravel all the legal problems concerning the entire SSI AD&D catalog (yeah, there are plenty abandonware sites where you can download them, but still...): beside the gold box ones, I want Ravenloft and Dark Sun too  :heart:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on August 27, 2013, 05:56:01 PM
Possible seizure alert:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on August 27, 2013, 07:43:53 PM
I'm not a huge fan of overblown particle effects. That seems to be one of this upcoming generations big thing. (See Killer Instinct for example)

As far as Eye of the Beholder - it was a pretty shitty game. Does not hold up at all. The PC version had some awesome graphics at the time though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on August 30, 2013, 02:55:38 PM
BG:EE is back on sale, btw. And in other news: http://www.baldursgateii.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bHwTDl231A

November 15th.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on September 03, 2013, 08:13:36 AM
Space Hulk: Deathwing - teaser (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Nr1zMtEsJQ&feature=player_embedded#t=0)  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on September 03, 2013, 10:29:09 AM
Space Hulk: Deathwing - teaser (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Nr1zMtEsJQ&feature=player_embedded#t=0)  :oh_i_see:
Was this winner in a useless contest?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Strazos on September 03, 2013, 01:37:48 PM
BG:EE is back on sale, btw. And in other news: http://www.baldursgateii.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bHwTDl231A

November 15th.

Great, now I need to buy this for a third time as well.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on September 10, 2013, 10:01:21 AM
Is there a reason that video game streamers on Twitch don't greenscreen advertising into the background of their little web cams?

Also - I wish Twitch gave an option to selectively mute only the talking audio.  I'd still like the game audio to come through, just not some of these idiots.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on September 10, 2013, 03:03:43 PM
For those interested, Fifa 14 demo is now available on Origin.

In related news, the XBox demo for PES 2014 should now be available; not sure about Playstation. The PC demo will be available on release day (sigh).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: ezrast on September 10, 2013, 09:11:37 PM
Is there a reason that video game streamers on Twitch don't greenscreen advertising into the background of their little web cams?
That would require them to a) be capable of decent videography, b) work out their own advertising deals, and c) be good at video games. The intersection of all three is empty except for organized teams, who do often have sponsor logos on their streams.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on September 11, 2013, 09:57:37 AM
Maybe you've already talked about this in other topics, but I've just read about this little program:

http://www.davidwaltersdevelopment.com/tools/gridcart/

Still have to try it out, but I guess it should come quite handy when you are in the mood for some old-school RPGs, planning PnP maps and so on.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on September 11, 2013, 05:49:29 PM
Maybe you've already talked about this in other topics, but I've just read about this little program:

http://www.davidwaltersdevelopment.com/tools/gridcart/

Still have to try it out, but I guess it should come quite handy when you are in the mood for some old-school RPGs, planning PnP maps and so on.
Thanks, I've been looking for something like this for D&D for a while now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on September 12, 2013, 06:20:53 PM
What was the deal with Card Hunter (http://www.cardhunter.com/game-info/), seems like a PVE card game?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on September 13, 2013, 02:56:23 PM
Five minutes into Rogue Legacy and I'm in love with the game:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/85916/rogue_legacy_barfsville.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on September 13, 2013, 03:58:47 PM
Anyone familiar with the Windows versions of the old Legacy of Kain games? GOG has Soul Reaver 1, 2, Blood Omen 2, and LoK: Defiance on sale as part of some Square weekend deal, and I've heard that Soul Reaver 1 had some control issues.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on September 13, 2013, 05:27:10 PM
Anyone familiar with the Windows versions of the old Legacy of Kain games? GOG has Soul Reaver 1, 2, Blood Omen 2, and LoK: Defiance on sale as part of some Square weekend deal, and I've heard that Soul Reaver 1 had some control issues.

Yeah, the controls are pretty ass, as far as I can see.  I haven't found a way to get the game to recognize a gamepad, and the game also doesn't want to use the mouse (if I recall correctly) so everything from movement to camera rotation is handled by key commands, which leads to some awkward finger gymnastics on the jumps.  It's beatable, but pretty awkward in places.  Haven't played the others in years, but I recall SR2 being way better in that area.

edit: no, I tell a lie, I just checked and the game does recognize my gamepad, but there's something incredibly screwed up with the calibration.  Tell the guy to move left and he moves left, and keeps moving left even if I release the stick.  Even when I set it to digital mode, controlling the game with the d-pad, it does this.  Weird.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on September 13, 2013, 05:35:57 PM
Five minutes into Rogue Legacy and I'm in love with the game:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/85916/rogue_legacy_barfsville.jpg)
Yea, it's basically the last Castlevania game I'll ever need to play.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on September 13, 2013, 05:55:12 PM
That seems like it would be more annoying than fun.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on September 16, 2013, 02:56:28 PM
It's only annoying until you die, which given that affliction is guaranteed to be soon.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ragnoros on September 16, 2013, 03:07:57 PM
I actually managed to survive for 15-20 minutes with the vertigo trait, clearing out the castle, forest, and a bit of maya. Upon my next heir I felt like I was falling the wrong direction. It was an odd sensation.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on September 16, 2013, 03:27:46 PM
It was basically the first guy I played.  I did not fare well.

The architect gives an interesting strategic choice regarding upgrades.  However I still need monies for upgrades.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on September 23, 2013, 10:57:44 PM
Not sure if anyone here played Zettai Hero Project: Unlosing Ranger vs. Darkdeath Evilman, the PSP Japanese Roguelike with the ridiculous long name, but it seems they made a sequel, Guided Fate Paradox (http://nisamerica.com/games/guided_fate_paradox/) which will be releasing stateside 11/5 on the PS3. Pretty psyched, as ZHP was basically Disgaea crossed with a Roguelike, and one of the coolest games I played towards the end of the PSP's life cycle.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Quinton on September 24, 2013, 02:26:00 AM
It was basically the first guy I played.  I did not fare well.

The architect gives an interesting strategic choice regarding upgrades.  However I still need monies for upgrades.

I primarily use the architect to go after fairy chests that need an ability I didn't have to get at or to repeat boss battles after dying horribly.

For regular dungeon crawling I prefer maximum cash reward.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on September 24, 2013, 10:09:10 AM
Yeah, those fairy chests.  WHEEEE.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on September 26, 2013, 03:41:54 PM
They have finally set a date to auction off the (rotten) corpse of 38 studios (http://www.hgpauction.com/auctions/29297/38-studios/). I'm genuinely interested to see if someone will make an offer that is actually enough to make the sale go thru.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on September 26, 2013, 03:57:08 PM
They have finally set a date to auction off the (rotten) corpse of 38 studios (http://www.hgpauction.com/auctions/29297/38-studios/). I'm genuinely interested to see if someone will make an offer that is actually enough to make the sale go thru.

Most interesting thing in that lot is the Rise of Nations IP.   I wouldn't mind seeing someone pick that up to make a sequel.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on September 27, 2013, 03:02:47 PM
I wonder how much of the tech for the MMO was finished. If it was reasonably solid would it be a good investment to basically buy it for lead time?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on September 27, 2013, 03:14:54 PM
For pennies on the dollar, could be.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on October 15, 2013, 02:58:43 PM
Ubisoft wises up to the fact that they have two major IPs launching on the same day, delays Watch Dogs to spring 2014.  I know I was planning on purchasing it and not AC4 because of how closely they were launching.  Now, maybe they'll get my day one AC4 purchase, too.  Maybe.

http://kotaku.com/watch-dogs-delayed-until-spring-2014-1445647171


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 16, 2013, 01:30:38 AM
Ohgodidontcareaboutfuckingac4


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on October 16, 2013, 02:41:22 AM
After the clusterfuck that was AC3, I have no trust in Ubisoft. Especially given that 4 is an obvious rush job.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on October 16, 2013, 06:31:56 AM
So they delay the only IP people care about to be able to launch AC4 an IP nobody really gives a shit about anymore?

Sounds like great marketing


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on October 16, 2013, 06:57:50 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if the game just plain wasn't finished either. Guess it's time to edit the front page calendar.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on October 16, 2013, 09:53:57 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if the game just plain wasn't finished either. Guess it's time to edit the front page calendar.

I would be more surprised is the game WAS finished based on the feedback from AC3. I also could not give two rat fucks about any Assassin's Creed game. Bring on Watch Dogs - though if this delay gives them time to make it something other than a rushed out buggy piece of monkey shit, I'm all for it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on October 16, 2013, 12:20:09 PM
So they delay the only IP people care about to be able to launch AC4 an IP nobody really gives a shit about anymore?

Sounds like great marketing

AC4 is likely projected to sell more copies than Watch Dogs because it is an established IP, regardless of how good the game actually is.  From Ubi's perspective, they stand to sell a lot more copies of AC4 during the holidays than they would Watch Dogs.  A business can't underestimate the power of the American holiday season for revenue, obviously.

Sure, it sucks for gamers who like good games, but Business.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on October 16, 2013, 04:56:53 PM
I don't think 4 people here saying "I don't give a shit about AC4" translates to it being an IP that nobody cares about, not in the slightest. I don't care about it either, but I have seen plenty of buzz from people about it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on October 16, 2013, 05:36:16 PM
As of last March, AC3 had sold 12.5 million copies, and while Ubisoft is expecting AC4 to be down from that number you're still likely looking at around 10 million.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 17, 2013, 02:58:25 AM
Tons of people care about AC3. An absolute fuckton. The problem with letting a game slip is you don't know what your competition will be. While they'd have been competing with themselves with AC4, now they're going to be competing against an unknown enemy - and they'll be missing the Christmas bump.

but hey

french people


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Stormwaltz on October 17, 2013, 03:23:56 AM
Between Watchdogs slipping and some "underperforming" titles, it appears investors are displeased (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/128768-Ubisoft-Share-Price-Tanks-As-Bad-News-Abounds).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on October 17, 2013, 07:56:43 AM
Hopefully Watch Dogs benefits from the delay in terms of polish, rather than suffering feature creep or having the bonus time wasted on DLC or something.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 17, 2013, 07:59:20 AM
No one delays games for polish anymore.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Miasma on October 17, 2013, 08:58:37 AM
The conspiracy theory I'm going to go with is they played GTA V and realized that, fair or not, watch dogs would be compared to it and look small and simple.  Maybe they don't have enough faith that the mechanics and more interesting systems they are trying to use differentiates them enough.

Missing Christmas and the launch of the new systems is going to hurt, the only reason I can see for them losing that is that they are worried it will compare so poorly that they won't be able to turn it into a franchise.  I still can't imagine a delay strategy will work, they can't make it as big and featured as GTA V in a few months, Rockstar had a legion of people working on that for years.

I mean GTA has a completely functioning subway system with stations throughout the city, commuters that get on and off, security, artistic murals, station announcements and camera shots at every angle as you ride the train - they didn't even use it in any of the missions!  I didn't find it until after I finished the game because they didn't bother to use it.  I was running from the cops and found myself on foot for some reason, jumped down some stairs to hide and boom, a fully animated unused subway system under the city.  I think you drive on some tracks underground in one heist but that's it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 17, 2013, 10:34:29 AM
Maybe so, but why delay it past Dec'13?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on October 17, 2013, 01:17:46 PM
Read at Lum's that the delay is because the game just isn't going to be ready, from am Ubi guy.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on October 17, 2013, 01:33:06 PM
So looks like Blizzard All-stars is getting re-branded as Heroes of the Storm:

Blizzard.com (http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/games/heroes/)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 17, 2013, 03:14:53 PM
BALLS to HOTS


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 17, 2013, 03:16:52 PM
That animation sucked and the logo looked too much like Hearthstone's. Which is to say, too much Warcraft, not enough Diablo and Starcraft.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maledict on October 17, 2013, 03:28:44 PM
Not even any shots of the actual game yet? How slow can they be at this?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on October 17, 2013, 04:22:30 PM
Not even any shots of the actual game yet? How slow can they be at this?

Who, Blizzard?

You sure you want an answer to that?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on October 17, 2013, 04:26:35 PM
It's dripping gooey wads of Activision.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on October 17, 2013, 07:22:00 PM
There's a wiki out there with shots of the alpha and it does indeed look pretty and further along then you'd expect.  Just wait for the unveil tomorrow at blizzcon.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on October 17, 2013, 09:10:36 PM
There's a wiki out there with shots of the alpha and it does indeed look pretty and further along then you'd expect.

I expected it to be done at least a year ago.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on October 19, 2013, 07:07:16 AM
There's a wiki out there with shots of the alpha and it does indeed look pretty and further along then you'd expect.  Just wait for the unveil tomorrow at blizzcon.
Um. Blizzcon is three weeks away?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nightblade on October 19, 2013, 09:38:12 AM
That animation sucked and the logo looked too much like Hearthstone's. Which is to say, too much Warcraft, not enough Diablo and Starcraft.

For a moment I thought it was fan made...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on October 19, 2013, 12:05:45 PM
Because it was made by someone who made a bunch of SC2 fanvids?
http://www.youtube.com/user/CarbotAnimations

Reading comprehension is unfair to some.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nightblade on October 19, 2013, 12:13:16 PM
Because it was made by someone who made a bunch of SC2 fanvids?
http://www.youtube.com/user/CarbotAnimations

Reading comprehension is unfair to some.

Yes, especially to those who barely care.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on October 24, 2013, 04:48:28 PM
Apparently the first 90000 people that redeem the code 38qq8dne97aa on PSN can get into the Dark Souls 2 closed beta. Just redeemed mine and got in. Downloading it now. Not sure what it includes but the article I read says it's about 90 mins of gameplay.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 24, 2013, 04:54:22 PM
Got it. Sweeeeet.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on October 24, 2013, 06:19:51 PM
While not stated on the site giving away the code, it seems likely that this is for the test on the 26th which is running 10/26 11:00PM PDT - 10/27 2:00AM PDT.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on October 25, 2013, 08:46:21 AM
Someone (schild) let me know how it is.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on October 26, 2013, 02:08:46 PM
i uh, I guess I have to play tonight at, I'm sorry, 1AM? Ok then.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on November 10, 2013, 08:46:37 AM
Very, very  :ye_gods:

Rambo the - Videogame (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkIUl1e7D0g)



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on November 10, 2013, 02:23:44 PM
Rambo: SWEAT SWEAT SWEAT SWEAT SWEAT the videogame


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on November 11, 2013, 11:18:34 AM
dat 1980s


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on November 11, 2013, 11:22:48 AM
Dear God... WHY?  :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on November 11, 2013, 03:09:20 PM
And here I thought it was going to be the next franchise to get the LEGO treatment.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on November 11, 2013, 10:13:05 PM
Could've been worse... Obsidian presents...  Rambo RPG.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on November 22, 2013, 04:10:02 PM
John Carmack has resigned from id. He wants to focus working on the Oculus VR headset.

http://techcrunch.com/2013/11/22/dooms-john-carmack-leaves-id-software-to-focus-on-the-oculus-virtual-reality-headset/

(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/jmarko579/royal-couple-norway.jpg) (http://s1094.photobucket.com/user/jmarko579/media/royal-couple-norway.jpg.html)

edit: clarity


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on November 22, 2013, 04:52:47 PM
Eh, whatever.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on November 23, 2013, 01:22:12 PM
Carmack appears to have mentally checked out of id when he started getting into space stuff - quite some time ago.

You can't be the lead programmer / architect of a leading engine provider and also be all about sending rockets into space and also be all about 3D goggles. There's just not enough time in the day, even for someone like Carmack. And it shows - id has become pretty irrelevant both as a game developer and engine provider.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Miasma on November 23, 2013, 03:16:15 PM
After looking at the image and before reading the post I really thought it was going to be about some uber nerd having a wedding with that oculus thing.  Had a bride, groom, best man feel.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on November 24, 2013, 08:03:17 AM
So, the one game that might have gotten me to buy a PS4...just got announced for the PS3. I'm okay with this.

http://persona5.jp/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on November 24, 2013, 08:31:47 AM
Yah, Persona 5, GT6, Dark Souls 2. Why do we need new consoles again?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on November 24, 2013, 11:01:05 AM
So, the one game that might have gotten me to buy a PS4...just got announced for the PS3. I'm okay with this.

http://persona5.jp/
I never know is 2014 Winter means next December or this coming January-March :(


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on November 24, 2013, 11:01:37 AM
As an aside, every single Playstation Console has gone out with a bang. Every. Single. One.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on November 24, 2013, 11:58:07 AM
That alone made me want to get a PS3.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on November 24, 2013, 01:04:21 PM
That alone would make me cancel my PS4 preorder if I hadn't done that already.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on November 24, 2013, 09:07:54 PM
So, the one game that might have gotten me to buy a PS4...just got announced for the PS3. I'm okay with this.

http://persona5.jp/
I never know is 2014 Winter means next December or this coming January-March :(
Next December.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on November 24, 2013, 09:10:41 PM
I'm thinking mid-2015 on a PS4 for me.  75% of the games on my radar are PS3 and PC still, so I simply don't have the need for the new tech.  I figure that will put me into the second generation of PS4s which historically draw a bit less power and may have more storage.  Plus, there should be a few $20 greatest hits titles by then.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Khaldun on November 25, 2013, 08:19:21 PM
I don't really see the need until they pretty much pry my Xbox360 from my cold dead hands. Nothing on console excites me any longer, I have a backlog of console games to play, I can find other ways to do Netflix. The kids mostly play Super Smash Brawl when friends are over. I don't see a damn thing in the new gen stuff that says, "Man, I'm gonna need that."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maledict on November 26, 2013, 02:33:39 AM
Infamous: second son is the game that will make me pick up a ps4. I absolutely love those games.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Stormwaltz on December 13, 2013, 07:39:56 PM
Quote
An acceptable offer was not received for Project Copernicus nor 38 Studios’ integrated social media and gaming platform Helios.

http://www.vg247.com/2013/12/13/rise-of-nations-and-rise-of-legends-sold-in-38-studios-auction/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on December 13, 2013, 11:00:37 PM
Shocked.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on December 14, 2013, 04:54:28 AM
At least the Rise of Nations IP sold, maybe we'll get a decent RTS out of it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on December 14, 2013, 08:17:32 AM
At least the Rise of Nations IP sold, maybe we'll get a decent RTS shitty browser-based social game money grab out of it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on December 19, 2013, 03:33:07 AM
Let's simulate!  :drill:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/267610/

http://store.steampowered.com/app/267600/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on December 19, 2013, 04:56:44 AM
Sky is probably playing that woodcutter simulator as we speak.  So that one at least has an audience.

But airport simulator?  Doesn't everybody hate airports?

Here's some other ideas for sim games, just off the top of my head, because apparently that's how this works:

- Colonoscopy Simulator 2013
- Root Canal Sim 2
- Prison Shower Encounters Online
- Sim Slut 4000
- Candy Van Stories




Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 19, 2013, 02:23:58 PM
HOW DARE YOU


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on December 19, 2013, 04:00:54 PM

But airport simulator?  Doesn't everybody hate airports?


My son loves them.  He is 4, however, and just likes them because: airport = vacation.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on December 19, 2013, 10:19:45 PM

But airport simulator?  Doesn't everybody hate airports?

Strip searching anyone?  :why_so_serious:

Quote
Besides heavy machinery like cutter, feller buncher and puller the player can finally simply use a chainsaw for working in the woods. With all this, the Woodcutter Simulator 2013 offers the players a great feeling.

 :grin: rub rub rub rub rub . TIMBEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 20, 2013, 02:42:54 PM
I almost bought it but it sounds really buggy.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on December 23, 2013, 06:50:10 PM
I've never understood the appeal of Pokemon games, but their new service is really cool.  For $5/yr you can have an online bank to dump any pokemon from Black/White, Black2/White2 and X/Y.  It will save up to 3000 pokemon.  Then you can install the new pokemon transporter app to bring the B/W pokemon into X/Y. 

The potential for these tools is amazing.  Imagine having the same pokemon for many future game iterations; that's awesome!

3rd article on this page:  http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/12/24/out-this-week-december-23-2013


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on December 23, 2013, 07:03:48 PM
You've always been able to transfer your Pokemon up from one generation to another; if one had all of the games and systems I believe you can go all the way from the originals up to X/Y (you'd need the new transport thing to make the jump from B/W to X/Y). It is pretty cool that it's online, provided that all future games have access to it; at the least it'll make the process easier.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on December 23, 2013, 11:09:22 PM
That's pretty cool; I didn't realize the games allowed for that.  They became popular in a brief 5-yr period that I wasn't playing games at all.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on December 24, 2013, 12:08:11 AM
It's required some shenanigans, system wise, to pull off but it's a very cool feature. You needed a DS Original or Lite, for example, to go from the GBA ones to the DS ones because those systems could hold both cartridges.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on December 26, 2013, 02:06:24 PM
These Pokeymans are why I can't do a system transfer to my new 3DS.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/12/nintendo_acknowledges_network_issues_and_suggests_patience

Quote
The issues with the Nintendo Network are continuing into Boxing Day, and Nintendo has now disabled Pokémon Bank and withdrawn it from the 3DS eShop in Japan — the online service launched on Christmas Day in the region, and has been revealed as part of the cause of the downtime worldwide.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Furiously on December 27, 2013, 03:53:29 AM
Let's simulate!  :drill:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/267610/

http://store.steampowered.com/app/267600/

Why isnt there a Sim: Crab Fishing or Sim:Gold Miner.... I think we need to get kickstarting...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 27, 2013, 08:30:32 AM
I'm all aboard for SimCrabber, just look for the fart bubbles.

I don't know guys, SimGoldMiner could make millions, but you frickin' just gotta believe. I know in my gut that money is there. Dad, let's pray.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on December 28, 2013, 07:56:59 AM
And now, we take you live to the Red 5/Firefall CEO meltdown in progress.  Join us over there, won't you?   :grin:

http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=19775.msg1253858#msg1253858


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on December 29, 2013, 02:30:21 AM
What in the holy monkey fuck was this thing?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjSloTj4VB8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjSloTj4VB8)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lantyssa on December 30, 2013, 10:10:02 AM
Couldn't watch much, but I saw enough to know they were on some good shit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on December 30, 2013, 11:33:08 AM
The bag is in the hat, it's filled with this and that. Their vision's getting fat. The rabbit is just a monkey in disguise.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on January 01, 2014, 11:14:20 AM
Fixing ET for the 2600:

http://www.neocomputer.org/projects/et/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on January 04, 2014, 11:00:41 AM
RPGCodex preview of Might&Magic 10 (http://www.rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=9291) actually seems pretty positive and makes me seriously consider buying the game at release (despite all my reservations).  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: koro on January 04, 2014, 02:46:10 PM
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RPGCodex

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positive

I refuse to believe this.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on January 04, 2014, 09:57:56 PM
Codex liking something means it's probably an awful mess of outdated design - but maybe that's what you want.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rattran on January 04, 2014, 10:42:26 PM
I liked the old Wizardry games, and that review made me not want to play this one.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on January 07, 2014, 03:57:50 PM
I finally registered a bunch of the new Nintendo things today, and looks like all the good items are unavailable.  Either they didn't stock many of these new items, or Nintendo sold a shitload of games and systems.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/85916/once/unavailable.png)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on January 07, 2014, 05:05:30 PM
So remember how Aliens: Colonial Marines killed Alien games?

I guess not?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXFBsvg61f0

Basically Sega and Creative Assembly decided hey let's try it again! Only instead of a shooter it's now Amnesia: With an Alien. One alien, no weapons, big ship. I mean, sounds cool but do they expect to recoup the budget with a completely niche genre title?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 07, 2014, 05:10:54 PM
Uggh, well I am in. I don't care about previous failures... THIS SEEMS AMAZING!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Stormwaltz on January 08, 2014, 01:06:25 AM
PC Gamer has compiled a list what appears to be nearly every PC game known or theorized to be released this year, including indies.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/01/04/the-best-pc-games-of-2014/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 08, 2014, 03:23:05 AM
This is the most exciting to me. The Long Dark. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTYlQu2IprU)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Malakili on January 08, 2014, 03:29:19 AM
Another survival game claiming "we're the ones making the REAL survival game." :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on January 08, 2014, 03:48:38 AM
No zombies, at least.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 08, 2014, 03:57:48 AM
Between The Road (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8RuQrhVBvo) and First Winter (horrible movie but great setting) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF2IQv2L5vI).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 08, 2014, 09:45:34 AM
PC Gamer has compiled a list what appears to be nearly every PC game known or theorized to be released this year, including indies.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/01/04/the-best-pc-games-of-2014/
Was literally googling this the last 3 days and couldn't find it. Thanks.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Shannow on January 08, 2014, 11:25:38 AM
God help me but I'd probably buy Star Wars Battlefront. I've been playing a little of II on my son's laptop the last week...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on January 10, 2014, 06:44:15 AM
There's literally like 20-something zombie games and a dozen+ "survival" games in that list. Then there's like a half dozen minecraft knockoffs. Great innovation we have coming up here.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on January 10, 2014, 08:45:59 AM
Why do people want to make just multiplayer medieval combat games with absolutely no single player world? I mean I would love to play the War of the Roses stuff or Chivalry or the like combat in a single player story game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on January 10, 2014, 09:36:00 AM
AI is hard.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on January 10, 2014, 09:45:14 AM
It's pitiful that we've come to that. Mount and Blade mods make functional AI for these kinds of things.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on January 10, 2014, 09:46:31 AM
There's literally like 20-something zombie games and a dozen+ "survival" games in that list. Then there's like a half dozen minecraft knockoffs. Great innovation we have coming up here.

I think I could play zombie survival games forever, provided they are good.  The concept somehow pushes all my buttons.

Of course, they won't all be good, nor even most of them.  And just like with everything else they will start making them all multiplayer/MMO only and totally kill the genre.





Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on January 10, 2014, 03:47:30 PM
TIL: Notch is working on the new Age of Wonders. I liked the old one, so this is interesting to me. I'm not sure what he brings to the table, but I'm happy there is a new iteration coming out.

Too bad about where Thief is heading (again). That franchise should share more with Amnesia than an FPS.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on January 10, 2014, 03:57:20 PM
I thought he was just funding it?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on January 10, 2014, 04:15:51 PM
Awesome Games Done Quick is awesome. http://www.twitch.tv/speeddemosarchivesda

Nothing like watching some guy play Mike Tyson's Punch Out blindfolded.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on January 10, 2014, 05:11:41 PM
Awesome Games Done Quick is awesome. http://www.twitch.tv/speeddemosarchivesda

Nothing like watching some guy play Mike Tyson's Punch Out blindfolded.

Holy shit, just caught the last few fights there but that was pretty awesome.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on January 10, 2014, 05:14:45 PM
Yah, the first guy got to Tyson.  The next guy up did the SNES Super Punchout and beat it blindfolded.  One shot every fight I believe.

Last night they had some guy that I recognized from the LoL scene (Studio.  He used to cast minor tourneys and was on some second tier pro teams) doing a Half-Life 2 speed run.  That shit was crazy.  It's like 95% abusing physics and clipping in the source engine.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on January 10, 2014, 05:32:39 PM
AI is hard.

Content in general is hard.  Maps, quests, dialogue, it's all a black hole that you pour years of development time into.  But a multiplayer shooter can get by just fine with ten maps, six character models, and a soundtrack that consists entirely of one song you hear on the title menu.  It's trickier to balance, certainly, but it's a quality vs. quantity thing at that point.  A big AAA studio will have a way easier time hiring enough artists to generate a map for Skyrim, but balance testing isn't something you can throw people at as easily.

It's part of the reason why there are so many minecraft clones and quote "roguelike" games where the only real roguelike element is a randomly generated world.  Big worlds are a masive pain to generate by hand.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Miasma on January 10, 2014, 06:57:45 PM
I clicked that link and it was some terrible people playing a song in zelda.  I hate twitch links because I'm always too late to see the good stuff.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Stormwaltz on January 20, 2014, 06:42:57 PM
There is a company called "Superdata" that apparently tracks digital online sales. I've never heard of them before, so I'm not sure how much stock to put in this:

(http://www.superdataresearch.com/content/uploads/2013/12/F2P-Top10-2013-1.jpg)

The top game is a Korean shooter I've never heard of, which I suppose means it made nearly a billion dollars without any presence in NA or EU. WoW is making a ton of money, as this apparently only shows revenue from microtransactions, not subscriptions. SWTOR is standing toe to toe TF2, and again that's without subscription fees.

http://www.superdataresearch.com/blog/us-digital-games-market/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 20, 2014, 06:52:09 PM
Lineage 1.

brb gonna go die

Goddamn Korea.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on January 20, 2014, 07:02:58 PM
But SWTOR is a ~failure~!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kageru on January 21, 2014, 03:44:14 AM

f2p at this level is mostly a fanboy indicator I guess... thus korea and star wars.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on January 21, 2014, 11:28:55 AM
Lineage 1.

brb gonna go die

Goddamn Korea.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Koreans are FUCKING CRAZY.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 22, 2014, 10:11:59 AM
Candy Crush Saga Makers Go After The Banner Saga. For Real. (http://kotaku.com/candy-crush-saga-makers-go-after-the-banner-saga-for-1506188958)

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Not content with trying to own the word "Candy", King.com, the makers of Candy Crush Saga, also want to own the word "Saga". So they've have taken legal action against strategy game The Banner Saga.

On December 27, 2013, King.com filed a "Notice of Opposition" with the US Patent and Trademark Office. It says that because King has 13 trademarks with the word "saga" in them, Stoic's colourful strategy game isn't allowed to use the word.

(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/19d9vknvdybyxjpg/ku-xlarge.jpg)

(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/19d9vpnf8kzqhjpg/ku-xlarge.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on January 22, 2014, 10:20:58 AM
King, who no one really cared about, just became Villain #1. Well done, morons.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on January 22, 2014, 10:27:55 AM
They'll lose.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on January 22, 2014, 10:36:29 AM
Hopefully someone goes after them and soaks up all their wonderful profits in litigation. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 22, 2014, 10:43:24 AM
Rumor is they tried to copyright the word "candy" recently. Not sure if true...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Tebonas on January 22, 2014, 10:46:32 AM
Isn't Candy Crush Saga a Bejeweled Clone?

I like the smell of Hypocrisy in the morning. Guess I have to tell my Candy Crush Saga playing relatives they should find another Bejeweled Clone to play instead of this.

Being both an Asshole and a Moron is a bad combination.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on January 22, 2014, 10:53:56 AM
Rumor is they tried to copyright the word "candy" recently. Not sure if true...

They trademarked it. It was approved a week ago.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonykosner/2014/01/20/candy-crush-saga-has-trademarked-candy-and-apples-app-store-is-helping-enforce-it/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on January 22, 2014, 10:56:47 AM
I'm no lawyer but I didn't think you could trademark a single word that has already existed for eons? I mean if I make up a word, maybe it's different, but saga is as old as the actual meaning.

I understand trademarking phrases like your product name "Candy Crush", but a word? That seems overstepping.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on January 22, 2014, 10:59:55 AM
I think it only applies to games and clothing. I don't know either but I guess that would be the only place it is enforceable?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on January 22, 2014, 11:01:25 AM
I'm no lawyer but I didn't think you could trademark a single word that has already existed for eons? I mean if I make up a word, maybe it's different, but saga is as old as the actual meaning.

I understand trademarking phrases like your product name "Candy Crush", but a word? That seems overstepping.

Ask Tim Langdell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edge_Games), I guess.  It took quite a while for EA to finally smack him down.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Stormwaltz on January 22, 2014, 01:05:16 PM
This pretty much cements my decision to buy Banner Saga on Friday.

Fuck trolls.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on January 22, 2014, 01:19:51 PM
I won't be buying Banner Saga until it's actually complete. Apparently it's episodic and just basically ends partway through, despite the Steam Store page saying nothing about it being episodic content.

I *will* be telling my Candy Crush playing relatives/friends to stop supporting King though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on January 22, 2014, 01:40:00 PM
But SWTOR is a ~failure~!
:grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on January 22, 2014, 09:38:37 PM
This pretty much cements my decision to buy Banner Saga on Friday.

Fuck trolls.

Agree. I hope their suing bonanza works out as well as SCO's "We own UNIX!" crusade.  :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Stormwaltz on January 24, 2014, 05:53:29 PM
Napoleonic Age of Sail sims are about as niche as you can get, but this one is quite easy on the eyes.

http://www.navalaction.com/

(Seen at RPS.)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on January 25, 2014, 08:26:35 AM
This makes me a bit desperate for the Southpark Game.

I hope it's not a piece of shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b03K5SgYI2M


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 25, 2014, 03:22:03 PM
Jazzpunk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxfgajectCs)? (With Hunter S. Thompson, apparently)

Also, coming to Steam February 7th. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T0UOy03_IE)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: murdoc on January 28, 2014, 11:36:40 AM
Assassin's Creed: Mordor aka Wraith Powers lolwut? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmiF-_7PX3c)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on January 28, 2014, 12:04:23 PM
I saw that over the weekend and it made me sick.  I'm so tired of the bastardization of LotR.  This is a bit over the top in that regard.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on January 28, 2014, 12:29:10 PM
Assassin's Creed: Mordor aka Wraith Powers lolwut? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmiF-_7PX3c)

... THE FUCK?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on January 28, 2014, 02:40:25 PM
Hm. I thought it looked pretty awesome and I pretty much ignore the LotR stuff (and have no interest in the Hobbit movie).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Miasma on January 28, 2014, 03:33:52 PM
I would take a serious look at playing any game with an AC/Arkham combat system.  Looks like they even threw in a little Dishonored.

I don't really care that much about the purity of Tolkien or whatnot.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on January 28, 2014, 03:44:20 PM
It looked cool, but it would suit Witcher better methinks.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on January 28, 2014, 07:33:01 PM
Why would you make a game like that and saddle it with the LOTR IP?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on January 28, 2014, 09:23:49 PM
Why would you make a game like that and saddle it with the LOTR IP?

I'm not sure they are saddled by much. It already looks like a pretty big departure from standard Tolkien lore.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on January 29, 2014, 01:20:51 AM
I haven't played any of the AC or Batman games for a long time.  This looks like something I'd actually enjoy playing.  The IP is just flavor and makes no difference to me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on January 29, 2014, 03:33:57 AM
Why would you make a game like that and saddle it with the LOTR IP?

Because the LOTR IP to most people is the Peter Jackson movies and that doesn't really seem like a particularly constricting framework to work in. Certainly if they're going to compete with Assassin's Creed even LOTR movie continuity fanfic will probably still make for a better story than what the AC games have been doing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 29, 2014, 04:30:49 AM
"Intellectual despair" (http://www.worldcrunch.com/culture-society/my-father-039-s-quot-eviscerated-quot-work-son-of-hobbit-scribe-j.r.r.-tolkien-finally-speaks-out/hobbit-silmarillion-lord-of-rings/c3s10299/#.UujYDhAuKij), says J.R.R. Tolkien's son.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on January 29, 2014, 05:32:13 AM
"Intellectual despair" (http://www.worldcrunch.com/culture-society/my-father-039-s-quot-eviscerated-quot-work-son-of-hobbit-scribe-j.r.r.-tolkien-finally-speaks-out/hobbit-silmarillion-lord-of-rings/c3s10299/#.UujYDhAuKij), says J.R.R. Tolkien's son.

That's fine. I'll take the "action movie for young people aged 15 to 25" over 12 volumes of history lessons about a fictional world. Both options are filled with a bunch of overindulgent wankery but at least I can make it through the movies.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 29, 2014, 05:36:05 AM
Reminds me of Dante's Inferno (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5o1LVg9ywPE). I vote no.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on January 29, 2014, 08:10:48 AM
Am I the only one who is going to comment on the name Ratbag?  Ratbag the Meat Hoarder.  It appears they've outsourced their orc-naming work to offshore kindergartners.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on January 29, 2014, 12:32:07 PM
That's fine. I'll take the "action movie for young people aged 15 to 25" over 12 volumes of history lessons about a fictional world. Both options are filled with a bunch of overindulgent wankery but at least I can make it through the movies.

Pulp fantasy stories and movies already exist in droves; go to the young adult section of your local bookstore to see that in action.  However, the segment of fantasy that consists of 12 volumes of history lessons about a fictional world is actually very small in comparison, especially with one so admired. 

I'm a neckbearded fan of Tolkien and I don't like the fact that liberties have been taken with the IP.  I realize there's not much I can do at this point except as Christopher says "to turn my head away".  It still irks me, though. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on January 29, 2014, 02:14:37 PM
"Fun" times at Funcom: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2014-01-29-funcom-offices-raided-by-economic-crimes-unit
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MMO developer accused of breaching Securities Trading Act for The Secret World

Employees at Funcom's offices in Oslo, Norway were sent home today under orders from the Økokrim economic crime unit.

According to a report from the Norwegian news site E24, officers from The National Authority for Investigation and Prosecution of Economic and Environmental Crime - a.k.a. Økokrim - were waiting at Funcom's offices this morning.

Witnesses report that the Økokrim officers seized enough documents from the company to fill several boxes. Employees were sent home just before midday, though neither Funcom's management nor the Økokrim representatives would comment on the reasons for the raid.

Funcom's stock ceased trading on the Oslo stock exchange this morning. Representatives from the exchange told E24 that it was waiting on more information before further action could be taken.

In a report from the Norwegian site News In English, the Økokrim has charged Funcom with breaching the Securities Trading Act regarding information disclosed to the market about its ambitious MMO project, The Secret World. The period in which the false or misleading disclosures were made runs from August 2011 to its launch in July 2012, and the two months that followed. There are also questions over how Funcom shared sensitive information during that time.

GamesIndustry International has also made contact with Funcom to press the matter.

In July 2012, three months before the end of the period under investigation and just prior to the launch of The Secret World, Trond Arne Aas stepped down as CEO of Funcom, taking on an advisory role and ceding his place on the board.

The Secret World experienced a difficult launch, meeting a mixture of tepid reviews and waning interest in the subscription MMO model among consumers. Shortly after, the company laid off an undisclosed number of staff in the name of reducing costs. Those costs became abundantly clear in the Q2 financial report that followed at the end of August, which showed a loss of $49 million - compared to a $3 million profit in the prior year quarter.

"The Company still considers it likely that sales for the 12 months period following launch of the game will be less than half of what was presented in the Conan-like scenario in Q1 presentation," the company said at the time.

Funcom dropped The Secret World's subscription model before the end of the year, but its impact reverberated for months afterwards. In January last year, the company closed the Beijing studio that had provided art and animation for the game, and drastically reduced the headcount at the Montreal studio it had opened less than four years before.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on January 29, 2014, 04:32:32 PM
Am I the only one who is going to comment on the name Ratbag?  Ratbag the Meat Hoarder.  It appears they've outsourced their orc-naming work to offshore kindergartners.

That's actually not so bad, IMO, though it might have been spit out by a random generator. If you split all the orc names up into syllables you could end up with Ratbag from Shagrat and Gorbag (both 'real' ones).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Xuri on January 30, 2014, 09:49:37 AM
"Fun" times at Funcom: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2014-01-29-funcom-offices-raided-by-economic-crimes-unit
I am shocked, I'm sure.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on January 30, 2014, 05:05:52 PM
Were you still there at the time, Xuri? Give us the gossip, cmon.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Xuri on January 30, 2014, 05:42:14 PM
I probably should not. What I can say though, is that this one time, [redacted] totally [censored] when the [redacted] over the [redacted], [redacted] [redacted] even before [redacted]! Imagine my surprise, when [redacted], [redacted] and [redacted] proceeded to [censored] right in the middle of the [redacted]! On a WEDNESDAY! o_O  :uhrr:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fordel on January 30, 2014, 07:37:10 PM
On a WEDNESDAY? YOU LIE!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on January 31, 2014, 10:26:39 AM
Swedeway does not have Wednesday. False.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Stormwaltz on January 31, 2014, 03:19:34 PM
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY.

http://www.insertcoinclothing.com/blog/2014/01/theres-a-saint-in-all-of-us/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on January 31, 2014, 03:31:48 PM
Where's my purple and gold suit?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Moaner on February 04, 2014, 12:22:44 PM
Apparently people sending Sony broken consoles filled with bugs is something that actually happens.  The instructions in my coffin box clearly state that I should not ship or pack any discs, controllers, cables/cords, or insect infested consoles.   :uhrr:

Unfortunately Assassin's Creed is stuck in the fucking thing, which I'm assuming means I'll never get it back.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 04, 2014, 01:14:43 PM
Nintendo returned the disc that was stuck in the Wii they repaired, so it's possible.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on February 04, 2014, 01:55:29 PM
Apparently people sending Sony broken consoles filled with bugs is something that actually happens.  The instructions in my coffin box clearly state that I should not ship or pack any discs, controllers, cables/cords, or insect infested consoles.   :uhrr:

Yup.  I used to work on notebook computers in the mid-90s.  One day got a service repair in which the user spilled wine into their notebook.  Everything looked good until we took the keypad off and tiny roaches exploded into our clean room.  Two days a whole service department shut down to kill them all. 

People are disgusting creatures. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ard on February 04, 2014, 03:09:13 PM
Unfortunately Assassin's Creed is stuck in the fucking thing, which I'm assuming means I'll never get it back.

Sony will ship back the game.  There should be something in the forms to fill out that asks you for the name of the game stuck in it, if there was one, or at least that was the case when I had a ps3 die on me.  The game came back in a sleeve along with the replacement console.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on February 04, 2014, 04:11:45 PM
Apparently people sending Sony broken consoles filled with bugs is something that actually happens.  The instructions in my coffin box clearly state that I should not ship or pack any discs, controllers, cables/cords, or insect infested consoles.   :uhrr:

Unfortunately Assassin's Creed is stuck in the fucking thing, which I'm assuming means I'll never get it back.
Infestation was one of the few reasons we could absolutely refuse a trade-in when I worked at Gamestop, and I'm sad to say people brought in infested systems on more than one occasion. One time a coworker fucked up and took one in, and we had roaches in our backroom for a week after throwing the 360 away.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Quinton on February 04, 2014, 06:38:03 PM
Always on computing devices are nice and warm.  Can make them very appealing to various pests.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Moaner on February 04, 2014, 06:53:33 PM
I had no idea, I guess that's one benefit of living somewhere with a cold climate.  I was 35 by the time I saw my first cockroach.  I actually looked at the forms carefully and there is indeed a place to indicate that a disc is stuck in the console, so I'm hoping I will get my game back.  If everything goes as planned, I'll be pretty happy with Sony's customer service.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on February 04, 2014, 07:11:15 PM
Well at least I finally have the answer to 'is there anything grosser to open up than a smoker's computer'. A smoker's computer with roaches.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Mithas on February 04, 2014, 08:46:34 PM
Well at least I finally have the answer to 'is there anything grosser to open up than a smoker's computer'. A smoker's computer with roaches.

Back in my early college days I worked at Best Buy. It was in a city that is surrounded by farmland. By far the worst thing that I have ever experienced was the computer used to run a farm's milking machines. It was literally splattered with cow feces. It was fine until you turned it on and then you can imagine the smell.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: apocrypha on February 05, 2014, 04:52:41 AM
I worked in a microbiology lab for a couple of years and had to spend a lot of time in an incubator room - an entire room kept at a constant 37oC and used for growing bacterial cultures.

There were several PCs in there attached to various bits of lab equipment and the kind of disgusting, probably highly dangerous stuff that used to grow on them were unbelievable. The IT department of the university point blank refused to service them in any way so it was left to people like me - lab workers with some knowledge of both IT and safe handling of unknown, infectious organisms.

I don't miss that job One. Tiny. Bit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on February 10, 2014, 12:09:20 PM
Bug fixes? Fuck that, we've got DLC to sell (http://www.joystiq.com/2014/02/09/batman-arkham-origins-team-prioritizing-dlc-over-bug-fixes/?ncid=rss_truncated&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+weblogsinc%2Fjoystiq+%28Joystiq%29).

The devs of the notoriously buggy as fuck Batman: Arkham Origins have flat out stated that they won't be patching anymore bugs so their dev teams can focus on DLC creation. Unless the bug is a "progression blocker" do not ever think it'll get fixed.

And that is the only reason I need to say FUCK THESE GUYS and never buy this game even on fucking Steam sale. Taint tickling ball lickers.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on February 10, 2014, 02:25:31 PM
I had to look up who published that game. Looks like Warner Brothers Interactive. They just made the "Never buy from" list!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 10, 2014, 02:39:12 PM
This game seems cool, and got half of its Kickstarter money (75k) in, well, two hours I think.

Darkest Dungeon. (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1460250988/darkest-dungeon-by-red-hook-studios)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on February 10, 2014, 02:41:28 PM
I read Roguelike and immediately blacked out.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on February 10, 2014, 02:42:42 PM
I perked up when I saw 'roguelike' then perked right back down when I saw 2D sidescrolling.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on February 10, 2014, 02:43:27 PM
To be fair, if 2D sidescrolling came before roguelike i'd have blacked out then too.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 13, 2014, 09:23:15 AM
A friend of mine recently is going insane over all the cheap bundles of games and I usually tell him that they have to be scams, or they just suck. Until he showed me this (http://groupees.com/bm11). I don't get it. It's like free games, while they are actually up on Steam or Desura for real money, including one (Aerena) still in early access alpha but totally worth the 1$ admission price.

What's the deal with these? They have to be legal, so what's the story? That once you are selling a digital product it's better to make 0.01$ out of it than nothing at all? And that basically that when we normally buy on Steam you are kind of overpaying? I am admitedly confused...


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Kail on February 13, 2014, 10:22:56 AM
I can't speak for the other bundles you mention, but the one you linked is for charity (some girl with neuroblastoma).  So it's probably a combination of the devs (which look like indie studios from what I recognized) not caring about profits if it's for a good cause, and being able to write off the game sales as "charitable donations" at tax time (though I'm not sure about this bit, not an accountant).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on February 13, 2014, 02:07:16 PM
Internet assholes and trolls have broken TotalBiscuit (http://www.reddit.com/r/Cynicalbrit/comments/1xrx27/in_light_of_tb_abandonning_his_own_subreddit/cfe3rgc)

tl;dr TotalBiscuit no longer enjoys playing the games he makes videos for because of all the comments Internet assholes and trolls leave


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on February 13, 2014, 02:25:17 PM
The first worldest of problems.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on February 13, 2014, 03:23:47 PM
Internet assholes and trolls have broken TotalBiscuit (http://www.reddit.com/r/Cynicalbrit/comments/1xrx27/in_light_of_tb_abandonning_his_own_subreddit/cfe3rgc)

tl;dr TotalBiscuit no longer enjoys playing the games he makes videos for because of all the comments Internet assholes and trolls leave


It's all very Flappy Bird.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: apocrypha on February 14, 2014, 12:46:14 AM
Someone tries to make a living out of their hobby and then finds their hobby isn't as much fun as it used to be?

Say it ain't so.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: trias_e on February 14, 2014, 05:06:37 PM
Twitch is trying to beat Pokemon.

http://www.twitch.tv/twitchplayspokemon

Watch 10,000+ people individually input button presses.  Despair at the horror.  Marvel at things somehow actually moving forward.  

The 30 second twitch stream delay really doesn't help matters.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on February 14, 2014, 05:18:50 PM
That's pretty amazing they've gotten that far.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on February 15, 2014, 07:28:58 AM
Giantbomb took a look at the South Park RPG from Obisidian (http://www.giantbomb.com/videos/unfinished-south-park-the-stick-of-truth-02-14-201/2300-8511/) and it looks surprisingly good. I hadn't really followed this game much since I watch maybe one episode of South Park a year at most and all the footage I had seen before pretty much just looked like an episode of South Park with no gameplay really being shown. It seems like it actually has some solid RPGness to it though, which I guess shouldn't be shocking since it's Obsidian even though they don't have exactly have a perfect track record. Actually looking forward to this now although unfortunately Dark Souls II and Infamous: Second Son both come out next month as well.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on February 15, 2014, 07:41:42 AM
Giantbomb took a look at the South Park RPG from Obisidian (http://www.giantbomb.com/videos/unfinished-south-park-the-stick-of-truth-02-14-201/2300-8511/) and it looks surprisingly good. I hadn't really followed this game much since I watch maybe one episode of South Park a year at most and all the footage I had seen before pretty much just looked like an episode of South Park with no gameplay really being shown. It seems like it actually has some solid RPGness to it though, which I guess shouldn't be shocking since it's Obsidian even though they don't have exactly have a perfect track record. Actually looking forward to this now although unfortunately Dark Souls II and Infamous: Second Son both come out next month as well.

Hah. I like Cartman in this. And the mocking of RPG mechanics.  :heart:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on February 17, 2014, 07:51:06 PM
Divine Divinity Official Re-Release Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPxQ6p7-3XE)  :why_so_serious:

Edit: Oh. That announcement is almost 2 years old.  :uhrr: I am sorry!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on February 18, 2014, 11:59:24 AM
In the 'things completely coming out of left field' department: Ken Levine is shutting down irrational games.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: murdoc on February 18, 2014, 12:21:56 PM
In the 'things completely coming out of left field' department: Ken Levine is shutting down irrational games.

http://www.irrationalgames.com/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on February 18, 2014, 12:36:34 PM
RIP, the Citizen Kane of game studios.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goreschach on February 18, 2014, 01:15:33 PM
That is just stupid as hell.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 18, 2014, 01:24:42 PM
Here's hope to the end of 'Cinematic' games and a return to making good Games.

Maybe he can KS Freedom Force 3. Or make a system shock style game that includes the fun of system shock without the bloviating of bioshock.

Either way, I'm ok with it. Irrational got too big and too far away from what I liked about their games.

edit: Read the last bit about "so our new venture can focus entirely on replayable narrative" This does sounds like 'less scripted' or is that me?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goreschach on February 18, 2014, 01:25:27 PM
No, you know what? I'm not just doing a one line reply. Fuck you, Ken Levine.

You do not just shut off a company you started two decades ago and fire everyone in it because of your fucking mid-life crisis. Fuck you.

You are a worthless, self absorbed, entitled piece of shit. Fuck you.

Fuck you.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on February 18, 2014, 01:32:20 PM
Why not? He's probably been pushed into making nothing but Bioshock stuff ad naseum because it sells. It takes a lot of balls to take the most popular thing off your menu because you're going to be type-cast by it.

The only way games are going to innovate is if people do shit like this, instead of making Bioshock 5 through 10.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goreschach on February 18, 2014, 01:43:52 PM
Did f13 suddenly become infested with morons?

You don't just show up to work one day and fire everyone, you fucking ingrates.

I don't give two fucks if Ken Levine spent the last half decade wanking off while reading the codex, and now wants to go to a small company and make old school core games. Any normal, well adjusted human being that isn't completely up their own ass realizes that when you're sick of running a company that involves dozens, if not hundreds of people, you fucking step down and put someone else in charge, or sell it, or just slack off all day while the younger people actually do everything.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on February 18, 2014, 01:58:15 PM
Well, at least he didn't call them out to a meeting in the parking lot.

Yeah, this seems like a shitty way to go about it. There's plenty of crappy ways to lose your job in the industry without having to lose it to someone's whim after making wildly successful games.  At least they have nice resumes.   Why not just put someone else in charge and spin off your new venture?



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on February 18, 2014, 02:20:25 PM
"I'm not 'firing everyone because I don't wanna do bioshock anymore', I am merely...slimming down the staff by a huge amount to go make...indie games for...take two? That makes sense right?"


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on February 18, 2014, 02:51:47 PM
Did f13 suddenly become infested with morons?

You don't just show up to work one day and fire everyone, you fucking ingrates.

I don't give two fucks if Ken Levine spent the last half decade wanking off while reading the codex, and now wants to go to a small company and make old school core games. Any normal, well adjusted human being that isn't completely up their own ass realizes that when you're sick of running a company that involves dozens, if not hundreds of people, you fucking step down and put someone else in charge, or sell it, or just slack off all day while the younger people actually do everything.
Yes, this is very odd, especially since Take Two owns (or owned, I guess) Irrational. It's unclear why they would allow Ken to just close up a money making studio of theirs. Normally what happens is the founders and some key people leave to start a new studio and the rest of the team stays behind feeding the goose laying the golden eggs.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on February 18, 2014, 03:01:06 PM
It seems a tremendous dick move, although I am hearing some muttering that Irrational was still in the red because Infinite took forever. Still, it sure looks like 150 people lost their jobs because of a mid-life crisis.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on February 18, 2014, 03:13:38 PM
It seems a tremendous dick move, although I am hearing some muttering that Irrational was still in the red because Infinite took forever. Still, it sure looks like 150 people lost their jobs because of a mid-life crisis.

While many game companies aren't run like businesses, there has be more to it than this since TTWO is a traded entity. They would have the authority to just step in and keep the staff even if Ken wanted to shut it down. Frankly, I question even if he has the power to shut it down if he wanted to.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 18, 2014, 03:26:39 PM
Did f13 suddenly become infested with morons?
You mean like the kind of moron who takes one open letter and fabricates a story to go with it?

He may or may not be a dick, but do you have some kind of info not yet posted here about it? Like "Ken Levine fired everyone on the spot with no warning or severance"? Because the game industry seems to close studios pretty regularly and he does give contact info to solicit placement for the team at the end of the letter.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Quinton on February 18, 2014, 04:13:53 PM
I have no context except the blog post, but my immediate reaction was "wow, guy just fired everyone but his favorite 15 people, that's a pretty shitty reward for everyone else who's been working for him however many years."  Yeah, it seems totally typical for the gamesdev industry where they think "ship, lay everyone off, then maybe hire some of them for a new project" is a reasonable way to treat your employees.  It'd be nice if people knew this was coming and had some time to plan, but I'd be shocked to learn that was what happened (again, games industry being what it is).

Giving people some severance and a career fair is a far cry from handing over the reigns to new management and giving the company (or team or whatnot) a chance to continue with everyone's jobs intact.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on February 18, 2014, 04:30:22 PM
In the 'things completely coming out of left field' department: Ken Levine is shutting down irrational games.

They took forever making a game that didn't sell very well. This was very predictable, and had the studio been successful it wouldn't be closed in this fashion just because one guy got bored. I don't think Ken Levine actually has the power to shut down Irrational, if it's closing it's because Take Two wants it to close.

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It's unclear why they would allow Ken to just close up a money making studio of theirs.

Back-of-the-envelope math indicates to me that the game lost a fair bit of money.

I suspect what happened here is Take Two wanted to close Irrational and considers Levine to be a bit of a brand, or at least a decent promoter, so instead of pitching it as "we're closing a money-losing studio but keeping Levine around" they tried to pitch it as "get ready for some exciting new creative stuff from Ken Levine" but it came out as "Ken Levine is kind of a dick and is firing everybody because reasons."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on February 18, 2014, 04:45:38 PM
The more that I think about it, the more I'm sure Ken doesn't have the power to shut anything down.

Irrational is a subsidiary of 2K games, which is a subsidiary of Take-Two. He's so low on the totem pole, I doubt his actual authority extended beyond day to day management and reporting to his next level superiors.

This letter looks more to me like a guy who is doing PR speak for the fact his segment is getting downsized. I don't think he was the force behind this at all, the mid-life stuff is just window dressing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on February 18, 2014, 05:10:24 PM
It's possible he genuinely did lose interest and wanted to leave, but studios don't close because one dude leaves. There's also no way he could take 15 employees with him as he left - that would be poaching and against whatever contracts those guys have signed.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on February 18, 2014, 05:49:43 PM
I didn't know Bioshock: Infinite lost money.  I suppose I could have looked that up. That changes everything. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on February 18, 2014, 06:05:05 PM
I'm not sure we know for sure, but it sold only 'pretty well' and took a really long time to make, so it's certainly not unlikely.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on February 18, 2014, 06:19:27 PM
I didn't know Bioshock: Infinite lost money.  I suppose I could have looked that up. That changes everything. 

The way companies obscure their information about specific titles it's hard to be sure, but it certainly either lost money or made a very modest amount.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Outlawedprod on February 18, 2014, 07:13:51 PM
It's possible he genuinely did lose interest and wanted to leave, but studios don't close because one dude leaves. There's also no way he could take 15 employees with him as he left - that would be poaching and against whatever contracts those guys have signed.

Didn't the Infinity Ward dudes effectively write the playbook on this?  Sell company and take the talent you like with you when you are ready to start the next big company. Repeat.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Simond on February 18, 2014, 07:23:34 PM
Internet assholes and trolls have broken TotalBiscuit (http://www.reddit.com/r/Cynicalbrit/comments/1xrx27/in_light_of_tb_abandonning_his_own_subreddit/cfe3rgc)

tl;dr TotalBiscuit no longer enjoys playing the games he makes videos for because of all the comments Internet assholes and trolls leave

Not the first time he's done this, and I doubt it'll be the last. Blaming it on trolls is just an excuse - his actual problem starts when preppie call him out on something he's said or done and it turns out that actually...they're right & he's wrong. So he goes off in a sulk and looks for a new place to call home.

First time I remember seeing it  was when he "retired" from Whineplay when someone pointed out that his ideas for game balance in Planetside (1) were dumb as hell.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on February 18, 2014, 07:27:27 PM
It's possible he genuinely did lose interest and wanted to leave, but studios don't close because one dude leaves. There's also no way he could take 15 employees with him as he left - that would be poaching and against whatever contracts those guys have signed.
Didn't the Infinity Ward dudes effectively write the playbook on this?  Sell company and take the talent you like with you when you are ready to start the next big company. Repeat.
Kind of. Vince Zampella and Jason West were the designers of Medal of Honor: Allied Assault but they weren't the cofounders of 2015, Inc. which developed the game for EA. They left to form Infinity Ward and then later left that to form Respawn Entertainment.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on February 18, 2014, 07:49:47 PM


You don't just show up to work one day and fire everyone, you fucking ingrates.

You can say that decision was a little... Irrational....
Yeahhhhh.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on February 18, 2014, 07:51:44 PM
I didn't know Bioshock: Infinite lost money.  I suppose I could have looked that up. That changes everything.  

The way companies obscure their information about specific titles it's hard to be sure, but it certainly either lost money or made a very modest amount.

B-but... Citizen Khan Moment!
(http://i.imgur.com/ITVsnnk.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on February 18, 2014, 08:04:07 PM
Infinity Ward situation was totally different. The two founders were fired, then a lot of employees resigned. Then there were lawsuits.

There's no evidence of bad blood here. Levine is still at Take Two. If Levine tried to break up the company, take his ball and go home, and poach 15 top employees there would be lawsuits here too.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 18, 2014, 09:20:06 PM
You can say that decision was a little... Irrational....
Yeahhhhh.
Win.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on February 18, 2014, 09:54:26 PM
What was the consensus on Kingdoms of Amalur?

It's $5 on Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IA7VCBG?t=slicinc-20&tag=slicinc-20&ascsubtag=wTN53JkYEeOiSH47yKk6Tw0_woXy3_SwR_0_0) right now, $10 for all the DLC.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 18, 2014, 10:06:54 PM
I have not heard people say Levine is a fun person to work with or for. He's been good at managing public perception of himself, that's for sure.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on February 18, 2014, 10:12:35 PM
What was the consensus on Kingdoms of Amalur?

It's $5 on Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IA7VCBG?t=slicinc-20&tag=slicinc-20&ascsubtag=wTN53JkYEeOiSH47yKk6Tw0_woXy3_SwR_0_0) right now, $10 for all the DLC.


The first 20 hours were a lot of fun.  I put it on hold to wait for a patch to balance things out.  They pushed 2 DLCs, never patched and then shuttered.

It's good.  It's not great.  for $10, I'd have to imagine you'd get your money out of it.

It's 50% Skyrim, 20% arcade game, 30% Eurojank like Divinity or Risen.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on February 18, 2014, 10:20:14 PM
What was the consensus on Kingdoms of Amalur?

It's $5 on Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IA7VCBG?t=slicinc-20&tag=slicinc-20&ascsubtag=wTN53JkYEeOiSH47yKk6Tw0_woXy3_SwR_0_0) right now, $10 for all the DLC.

Worth $5. Didn't play any of the DLC but the main game was a fun hack and slash RPG.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on February 18, 2014, 10:20:54 PM
No, you know what? I'm not just doing a one line reply. Fuck you, Ken Levine.

You do not just shut off a company you started two decades ago and fire everyone in it because of your fucking mid-life crisis. Fuck you.

You are a worthless, self absorbed, entitled piece of shit. Fuck you.

Fuck you.

This.

HEY LET'S LAY OFF AN ENTIRE STUDIO BECAUSE OF MY MID-LIFE CRISIS.

Fuck him.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 19, 2014, 08:17:37 AM
People I respect have told me Levine is a jerk.  Haven't met him myself, but I did play some Bioshock.

I'd say $5 is good for Amalaur.  It's not terrible, it just didn't grab me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on February 19, 2014, 08:35:03 AM
It's kind of funny that a game that's on just about everyone's Game of the Year list managed to not make money.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 19, 2014, 09:16:13 AM
It's kind of funny that a game that's on just about everyone's Game of the Year list managed to not make money.
G R A P H I C S


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on February 19, 2014, 09:20:17 AM
It's kind of funny that a game that's on just about everyone's Game of the Year list managed to not make money.

Blowing a budget and make anything unprofitable.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 19, 2014, 10:38:22 AM
Why the new Thief is going to suck:

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“So, this demo. Go in the manor. Crystal clear, no frustration. You know what to do. You know where to go. How you do it – this is where we want your freedom. A lot of opportunities. A lot of ways to play. Aggressive. Non-lethally. It’s up to you… it’s your playground. You had a bad day, last night, you feel aggressive, perfect. Use your arrows and have fun. So this is where we really want to give you all the tools. We’re going to build these maps, this universe, to let you figure out – all the ingredients will be there – what type of fun I want to have today.”
Yet this spoke to our major concern with the demo – one far greater than the insipid, dated nature of the burning bridge sequence. The “ingredients” that featured within the level did not feel general-purpose and consistent. They were not systems; they were hand-placed, hard-coded points of interest. Case in point (no pun intended): rope arrows. Previously, Garrett’s rope arrow stuck to any wooden surface, after which a climbable rope would unfurl from its point of impact. Here, rope arrows only attach to specifically marked anchor points that have been placed by level designers – anchor points that seemed to exist when the only way forward was through the use of a rope arrow.
“It’s a question of production choice,” [Producer Stephane] Roy explains. “If I give you the possibility to shoot the rope arrow everywhere, I will have to cut something. I will have to reduce our intention for the narrative. If it’s everywhere, the cost of it is to block your view, because it’s still a console. It’s still tech. By having a smart level design, by making sure that feels natural that here you can go – not scripted, but you check and if you feel that you should be able to do that and it’s there, the job is done. If it’s not frustrating, the job is done.”

From:
http://sneakybastards.net/theobserver/thief-hands-on/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Job601 on February 19, 2014, 10:55:00 AM
Amalur is a good game with a lot of good content, but the systems are so unbalanced that the game will break for most players who know how to min-max even a little by the time you've seen about a third of it.  Then you're just gliding through the content without the interesting combat, and the game becomes a not as good Skyrim. There are no show-stopper bugs, but it desperately needed a re-balancing patch that it never got.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Miasma on February 19, 2014, 11:42:09 AM
Why the new Thief is going to suck:
I think there is an image for that, it certainly won't make old hardcore fans happy.  Hey I found it:

(http://i.imgur.com/EuglQEO.jpg)

Personally I don't care if it isn't like the old thief games I played.  I want something more like Dishonored, and that's basically what it is.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 19, 2014, 11:46:46 AM
Why the new Thief is going to suck:
That's bizarre, as rope arrows were, as he pointed out, limited to wooden surfaces. Which was pretty limited without feeling that way. I don't see how such a completely retarded thing as anchor point (how does that go during a home inspection? "No, sorry, I'm going to have to put in a stipulation that you remove these rope arrow anchor points.") works.

Why can't people just play Thief 2 and make more of that with prettier graphics?

Reading through the article now. It's amazing how they really don't understand the draw of the game, insult gamers and insert their ego so completely.

Oh my god the console limitations are why rope arrows were nerfed?

The whole Focus thing, seeing footsteps through the wall? Wasn't the genius of Thief being able to use your ears to hear the guards walking, then quickly peeking around the corner when he stops? And that Focus can be disabled...but the entire game is designed around it and it's linked to the story. Hmm? Then he said 'gamify'.  "Focus is a way to essentially gamify Garrett’s nature as a master thief; a shortcut to making players ‘feel’ like a master, rather than by having them master the systems and environment on their own" Um, yeah, fuck you at this point.

A flashing light instead of the classic light gem? If it ain't broke...

This sounds horrible.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 19, 2014, 11:49:29 AM
Ug, reading that graphic, thanks a lot  :oh_i_see:

Setting aside any issues with the job side of Levine's announcement...I have to hope that the core of his change in focus is because Bioshock got so far down that linear, scripted path that seems to be the thing. When you start tossing gameplay because it interferes with your storytelling, you need to get out of the game business.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on February 19, 2014, 12:14:23 PM
So they basically want to make Assassin's Creed in a Victorian setting?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on February 19, 2014, 12:16:12 PM
So they basically want to make Assassin's Creed in a Victorian setting?

Yes. For consoles, and all their restrictions.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on February 19, 2014, 12:24:11 PM
Why the new Thief is going to suck:
http://sneakybastards.net/theobserver/thief-hands-on/

Scripted set-piece bullshit is the worst. A lot of games these days feel like they are barely systems at all, and are instead just bits of filler between one-off scenarios.

Playtesting has a lot to do with this. If you make rope arrows able to attach to any (wooden) surface when you run a playtest some guy is going to fire his arrow to a weird spot and the people watching the playtest are going to freak out.

I hate playtesting. I used to be against focus testing but for playtesting, but now I think even most playtesting is bad. If you watch someone play a game it has a huge amplifying effect on anything that goes "wrong", making even trivial problems appear massive. If you are watching a guy try to solve a puzzle and he gets stuck for 30 seconds it feels like an eternity, then the team rushes out and makes the puzzle simpler because a single person was stuck for less than a minute.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on February 19, 2014, 12:25:08 PM
Welp, that graphic told me everything I needed to know about the new Thief all right. Fuck this game. I might buy it on $5 Steam sale, but if I want to play Ass Creed or Dishonored, well... I have those games, I'll just go play them instead of you skullfucking one of the most beloved stealth game franchises of all time in the name of making it "more like other games that have succeeded and which never would have existed without the original Thief which I apparently TOTALLY did not fucking play."

Wanker.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on February 19, 2014, 12:38:55 PM
As gaming consumers we just need to stop hoping for older games to come back. Instead we should just pay for things that innovate at all, and pay for them over and over again while shunning the derivative shit until it's in the bargain bin.

Far too often we rationalize about buying shit we KNOW is going to be shit because we can get some modicum of entertainment value from it. All that does is give people the money to make even more derivative shit.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on February 19, 2014, 01:12:01 PM
I have no attachment to the old games, so I'm not sure I care about any of that stuff in a specific sense, but what strikes me out of all of that is that you better be awfully certain that your story is good enough if you're letting it dictate the mechanics of the game that directly.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on February 19, 2014, 01:24:29 PM
I recognize I may be a rarity here from people of discussed this with, but I can point to the games on Steam where I've logged the most hours (1000+ combined), and with the exception of Dragon Age, none of them really have any story at all.

I just can't fathom how story has seemingly trumped gameplay almost so insidiously that none of the newer generation of gamers seems to care.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on February 19, 2014, 01:30:24 PM
It's pretty simple. RPGs pretty much always had stories; as those got more complex and involved and interesting, people responded positively. So, people started putting it into other genres, it continued to get more positive response, and here we are.

It really seems to be action games where the 'problem' lies, if there is one, but that is a genre that I'm mostly not interested in so I can't really speak to the plusses and minuses.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on February 19, 2014, 01:30:41 PM
It's not even about story, it's about railroading. Taking the easiest way out because they can't or won't handle anything emergent.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on February 19, 2014, 01:35:06 PM
Well the problem with story as well, is that unless it involves a ton of options and paths, it has no replayability. Thus the railroading. I can't fathom paying $60 to play something once that may take 8 hours.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on February 19, 2014, 01:35:45 PM
It's not even about story, it's about railroading. Taking the easiest way out because they can't or won't handle anything emergent.

That often is a function of narrative though. If you have One Specific Story in mind, you can really only handle a fairly limited amount of branching before it gets incoherent.

Well the problem with story as well, is that unless it involves a ton of options and paths, it has no replayability. Thus the railroading. I can't fathom paying $60 to play something once that may take 8 hours.

I don't really disagree, maybe with the exception of adventure games like Telltale makes, but that's the other genre that has always been story-first, even more than RPGs.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on February 19, 2014, 01:39:04 PM
Borderlands 2 has no branching choices, but the story is still entertaining after the 5th or 6th playthrough.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on February 19, 2014, 01:44:10 PM
Borderlands 2 has no branching choices, but the story is still entertaining after the 5th or 6th playthrough.

Shame about the gameplay though.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on February 19, 2014, 01:45:23 PM
I just can't fathom how story has seemingly trumped gameplay almost so insidiously that none of the newer generation of gamers seems to care.

Easy. Game designers really really want to be movie directors but they have game design skills instead. And designing games means you only have to deal with other gamers/programmers/nerds instead of bitchy people like actors and producers who care about art, and how their characters should act as opposed to thinking the designer/writer is the greatest creator in the history of creation or who think this creation is art because what actor thinks anything beyond "oh it's a video game, this should be fun but not really serious."

See Chris Roberts and Ken Levine as two examples.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on February 19, 2014, 02:08:39 PM
It's weird how no studio knows how to make the smallish sandboxy levels stuff anymore. It's either fullblown gigantic sandbox stuff like Assassin's Creed or A->B->C linear levels where you pick between air vents, sneaking through the front door, or just slaughtering everyone because you can apparently just do that too.

I'm not going to whine about this particular series getting a modern console makeover though. If you really, really just want Thief but with modern graphics and lighting go download and install The Dark Mod (http://www.thedarkmod.com/main/). It is made by, and for Thief autists and captures that feel rather well. It is also now completely standalone, having been rebuilt from the released Doom 3 source code.

If you want multiplayer Thief, go dig up your copy of UT99 (and go get a copy if you didn't have one wtf is wrong with you for missing the best Deathmatcher ever made) and also dig up an installer for Thievery which is also incredibly faithful to the Thief look/feel.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 19, 2014, 02:27:39 PM
Yeah, Thief (http://www.ttlg.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=65) didn't (http://forums.eidosgames.com/forumdisplay.php?f=45) really (http://www.darkloader.net/) go anywhere (http://www.thief-thecircle.com/).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 19, 2014, 02:50:51 PM
The sad thing is in ten years, there will still be activity on those forums and this crappy console generation Thief (Thi4f yuk yuk) will be an uncomfortable memory.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on February 19, 2014, 03:12:44 PM
The bizarre-ass story from Thief 1 is still one of my all-time favorites.  I used to rotate cutscene art from that game as my desktop background for years.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on February 19, 2014, 03:21:33 PM

I'm not going to whine about this particular series getting a modern console makeover though. If you really, really just want Thief but with modern graphics and lighting go download and install The Dark Mod (http://www.thedarkmod.com/main/). It is made by, and for Thief autists and captures that feel rather well. It is also now completely standalone, having been rebuilt from the released Doom 3 source code.

Reeaaalllllly.

Excuse me, I must return some video tapes.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Miasma on February 19, 2014, 03:28:24 PM
I'm not really looking forward to the story for the new thief either.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 19, 2014, 05:25:07 PM
The guilt over taking her prize possession, her...grappling hook?

I know what I'm getting my fiancee next Valentine's Day!

As gaming consumers we just need to stop hoping for older games to come back. Instead we should just pay for things that innovate at all, and pay for them over and over again while shunning the derivative shit until it's in the bargain bin.
This is why I back stuff on KS, even if it looks like it might not work out. For every TUG there is a Kingdom Come, and these dev houses need to know there is still a market for those games despite what the industry thinks behind it's walls of ignorance.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on February 19, 2014, 07:17:50 PM
I think the pendulum is starting to swing away from these types of games.

Look at the recent reveal of The Order for PS4. Met with a lot of "ho hums" and the developer interviews sound like self-parody. "It's totally not a QTE", talking up "walk and talk" like it's a great feature, using the word "filmic" three times a sentence. The game is basically AAA Video Game: The game, but the reaction to the reveal is muted. Meanwhile gameplay centric games like Minecraft, Rust, DayZ, etc, are blowing up.

Something that happened with platformers is that for a while they were super popular, then they imploded, and what was left were a few high-quality ones like Mario while most other ones stopped existing or were extremely niche. I think the same thing is going to happen with these "cinematic experience" games - they just cost too much to make and are too samey for everyone to be making them.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on February 19, 2014, 07:22:10 PM
When even SOE is getting on the Minecraft wagon, you know the pendulum is swinging the right direction.

That doesn't mean we still don't have a few more years of backlog from stuff that started before the wind shifted. Sort of like the bad MMOs.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 20, 2014, 06:41:40 AM
I don't even know what it is, but Lestac (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG0QBLD5Szs) looks beautiful to me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 20, 2014, 08:02:41 AM
I don't even know what it is, but Lestac (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG0QBLD5Szs) looks beautiful to me.

Looks like a smallish platformer with combat being replaced by a gated barter system that is secretly a lecture about the nature of the industrial beast.

Basically, indie wank?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on February 20, 2014, 09:40:08 AM
Ran into this on Reddit:

(http://i.imgur.com/R8iZNyX.gif)

I've ruled out Titanfall and The Order (that video 'leak' looked so QTE bad).

Destiny & Division I think still top the list for me.

Dark Souls, Witcher, Watch Dogs and Thief all look like Steam Sale pickups maybe.

Looking like a go broke kind of year.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 20, 2014, 09:48:28 AM
Watch Dogs, Destiny, Witcher 3, Phantom Pain.

That's all I care about.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on February 20, 2014, 09:57:00 AM
Witcher 3 is a definite release day acquisition for me. Dragon Age might be but I'm not convinced it's going to be worth it. Otherwise it's steam sale year for me.

Though if Creative Assembly's Warhammer Fantasy Battle RTS gets released this year it's something I'll keep an eye out for.

edit: my number 1 "game" for the year is without a doubt the next CK2 dlc short of a disaster of epic proportions


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on February 20, 2014, 10:04:19 AM
The gaming industry has totally left me behind.  I'm idlely curious about Witcher 3 and Dragon Age, but couldn't care less about the rest of them.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on February 20, 2014, 10:41:22 AM
Witcher, Dragon Age, Destiny, and the Order are on my watch list.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on February 20, 2014, 10:50:53 AM
Watch Dogs, Dark Souls II and Witcher 3, though I'll probably wait on both for Steam sales. The Division... maybe. Thief can go fuck itself.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on February 20, 2014, 11:05:30 AM
Most of those seem like Steam sales to me.

Rocksmith 2015 is on my list for launch purchases. Rather, it is my list for launch purchases.

Possibly some great multiplayer thing that comes out and f13 adopts it, as I'd want to play in the two week window before everyone drops it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on February 20, 2014, 12:44:48 PM
Here is my 2014:

Buy list:
Banished
South Park: The Stick of Truth
Tropico 5
Mount & Blade 2
The Witcher 3
Beneath a Steel Sky 2
Xenonauts (UFO/X-COM remake)

Watch-list/Depending on reviews:
Galactic Civilizations 3
Jagged Alliance: Flashback (turn-based!)
Etherium (RTS)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on February 20, 2014, 01:27:25 PM
Here is my 2014:

Buy list:
Banished
South Park: The Stick of Truth
Tropico 5
Mount & Blade 2
The Witcher 3
Beneath a Steel Sky 2
Xenonauts (UFO/X-COM remake)

Watch-list/Depending on reviews:
Galactic Civilizations 3
Jagged Alliance: Flashback (turn-based!)
Etherium (RTS)


Has Mount & Blade 2 been announced for release this year?  :grin: :drill: :drill:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 20, 2014, 01:41:25 PM
Dark Souls 2 is really all I care for in 2014. There's room for lots of surprises and I know there's many games I will greatly enjoy, some among those listed before and some totally unexpected and unknown, but the only one I am really, totally, utterly looking forward to is Dark Souls 2.

EDIT: Wasteland 2.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on February 20, 2014, 01:43:43 PM
Woah woah woah. Tropic 5 is coming out?

ZOMG!  :drill:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on February 20, 2014, 01:56:59 PM
Woah woah woah. Tropic 5 is coming out?

ZOMG!  :drill:

Even better: Release April 2014!



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on February 20, 2014, 02:06:16 PM
Has Mount & Blade 2 been announced for release this year?  :grin: :drill: :drill:

Crap. Gamestar.de has it listed as 2014, but now that you mentioned it I did some independent googling and am unable to come up with a verfication for that. Let's hope for the best.

(http://i.imgur.com/1WJ1r1F.png)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on February 20, 2014, 02:09:23 PM
Woah woah woah. Tropic 5 is coming out?

ZOMG!  :drill:

Even better: Release April 2014!



OMG I'LL BE OUT OF TAX SEASON.  :thumbs_up:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on February 20, 2014, 02:17:43 PM
Surprising noone, DA:I is probably the only automatic pre-order/day 1 buy for me in that image. If M&B 2 actually exists someday it would join the list of course.

Maybe Mad Max, but I don't know enough yet.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MisterNoisy on February 20, 2014, 03:18:31 PM
Watch Dogs, Destiny and The Division are probably going to be day-one games for me and I've already got Titanfall ordered based on my experience with the beta.

Dark Souls 2 I'll pick up once it gets it's first price drop and Mad Max is a wildcard - I'm curious, but can definitely wait.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on February 20, 2014, 03:47:34 PM
DS2 at some point.  I never finished either of the previous games, but I feel it's worth buying to make sure these types of games are still being made.

Watch Dogs looks good, but Uplay.  It's annoying.

Other than that, my list for this year is slim.  I've already purchased DivinityOS, but not really getting into it until it releases.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on February 20, 2014, 04:04:57 PM
If someone can convince me that Dark Souls II's PC port is about a million times better than the last one, I'll give it a shot on Steam Sale.  They really shat the last port out and burned their bridge plenty good, though.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sjofn on February 20, 2014, 04:18:56 PM
DA:I, Tropico 5, and The Sims 4 ( :why_so_serious: ) are the only ones I know I'll be buying immediately this year. I will probably break down and buy Banished before it goes on sale, but we'll see. I keep waffling on it, and I'm not even sure why.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Moaner on February 20, 2014, 05:33:22 PM
I'm limiting myself to Infamous Second Son, Dark Souls 2, Driveclub, and a couple of indie titles this year.  I have so much shit laying around waiting to be played, it's ridiculous.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on February 21, 2014, 11:11:17 AM
It's kind of funny that a game that's on just about everyone's Game of the Year list managed to not make money.

As of July 2013, Bioshock Infinite had sold 4 million copies according to Take Two's financial report. If it was unprofitable, that sounds to me like reason to just remove Levine rather than shitcan the entire studio. Of course, this seems to be an issue with all too many of the big name publishers out there. There's no way a video game should lose money when it sells 4 million fucking copies.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on February 21, 2014, 11:40:18 AM
Here's to the next video game collapse!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Maledict on February 21, 2014, 01:21:03 PM
It's kind of funny that a game that's on just about everyone's Game of the Year list managed to not make money.

As of July 2013, Bioshock Infinite had sold 4 million copies according to Take Two's financial report. If it was unprofitable, that sounds to me like reason to just remove Levine rather than shitcan the entire studio. Of course, this seems to be an issue with all too many of the big name publishers out there. There's no way a video game should lose money when it sells 4 million fucking copies.

Normally I would agree but this game took 6 years to make. This isn't a fault of the industry or AAA games, it's simply horrendous, jaw-dropping bad project management. Any industry would react the same - 4 million copies is great and all, but not when it cost 6 years and however many millions to make.

The amount of changes and cut content this game saw has it verging into Duke Nukem territory.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Draegan on February 21, 2014, 02:04:02 PM
Is Destiny a game that is going to force me to buy a PS4?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ard on February 21, 2014, 02:15:41 PM
No, since it's also releasing for ps3 and xbox 360, although that alone should be setting off alarm bells.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 21, 2014, 02:54:20 PM
Ignore that PS4 until after it comes out in the homeland of those that made it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Miasma on February 21, 2014, 02:59:09 PM
Tomorrow?

I can't tell if I got caught in the sarchasm.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Miasma on February 21, 2014, 03:07:45 PM
What with the new fangled ability to easily share from the ps4 there have been quite a few twitch streams of people playing Thief who bought from stores/countries that don't care about abiding by the street release date.  It's sounding really bad.  As in not only really bad for oldschool Thief fans but also bad for people like me who thought it would be as good/similar to Dishonored.

Is steam's refund policy still atrocious, even if you just want to cancel a preorder?

As a note twitch also bans you if you stream games that haven't been "officially" released yet.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 21, 2014, 03:10:01 PM
I don't know when anything happens, but I'll still wait a bit.  I even forget what game is supposed to make me want a PS4.  It's sure as hell not all the games I already own.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on February 21, 2014, 05:34:28 PM
It's kind of funny that a game that's on just about everyone's Game of the Year list managed to not make money.

As of July 2013, Bioshock Infinite had sold 4 million copies according to Take Two's financial report. If it was unprofitable, that sounds to me like reason to just remove Levine rather than shitcan the entire studio. Of course, this seems to be an issue with all too many of the big name publishers out there. There's no way a video game should lose money when it sells 4 million fucking copies.

Normally I would agree but this game took 6 years to make. This isn't a fault of the industry or AAA games, it's simply horrendous, jaw-dropping bad project management. Any industry would react the same - 4 million copies is great and all, but not when it cost 6 years and however many millions to make.

The amount of changes and cut content this game saw has it verging into Duke Nukem territory.

Pretty much. The Last of Us was also a story driven AAA game, but only took 3 years or so to make and from the sounds of it had a smaller team. It seems to be a financial success for Naughty Dog and topped a lot of GOTY lists as well.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 21, 2014, 07:04:59 PM
It took them 6 years for that?  :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on February 21, 2014, 07:07:46 PM
If you can't tell by the systems that don't quite fit together, it likely underwent many redesigns.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 22, 2014, 04:16:40 AM
Free to Play - The Movie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-RKqGaNq-Y). A Valve documentary about DOTA players.

Quote
“Free To Play is a feature-length documentary that follows three professional gamers from around the world as they compete for a million dollar prize in the first Dota 2 International Tournament. In recent years, E Sports has surged in popularity to become one of the most widely-practiced forms of competitive sport today. A million dollar tournament changed the landscape of the gaming world and for those elite players at the top of their craft, nothing would ever be the same again. Produced by Valve, the film documents the challenges and sacrifices required of players to compete at the highest level.”


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Velorath on February 22, 2014, 07:38:12 AM
The gaming industry has totally left me behind.  I'm idlely curious about Witcher 3 and Dragon Age, but couldn't care less about the rest of them.

I feel the opposite at the moment. After suffering through a lack of good new releases the last several months, I'm looking forward to Infamous, Dark Souls 2 and South Park which all come out next month. Further down the road (hopefully) this year I'm keeping an eye on Evolve (from L4D's creators), Dragon Age, Pillars of Eternity, and maybe Destiny, The Divison, or Watch Dogs. Hopefully Hex will be hitting beta at some point. I loved the Fight Night series so I'm curious to see how the upcoming UFC game turns out. Also enjoyed Dead Island so I'm hoping Dying Light will be good. Also just got my keys for the Shadowrun Berlin campaign that launches in a week. I feel like I've got plenty to look forward to right now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on February 22, 2014, 12:36:45 PM
Normally I would agree but this game took 6 years to make. This isn't a fault of the industry or AAA games, it's simply horrendous, jaw-dropping bad project management. Any industry would react the same - 4 million copies is great and all, but not when it cost 6 years and however many millions to make.

The amount of changes and cut content this game saw has it verging into Duke Nukem territory.

Which is why it was so hilarious reading Scott's (Lum) Facebook comments on the story.  So many devs saying, "See, this is why AAA Games are dead/ dying."

Erm.. run a business like a business and produce or get gone.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 26, 2014, 02:39:06 AM
Mighty Quest for Epic Loot (http://store.steampowered.com/app/239220/) reaches Open Beta. Free to Play, a mix between Dungeon Keeper, Diablo, and Clash of Clans. Worth a quick look to see if it's your thing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 26, 2014, 03:30:10 AM
Mighty Quest is not a good video game.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 26, 2014, 03:45:04 AM
I agree, it ended up being very disappointing. But they just revamped a lot of things and hey, there's people here playing Dungeon Keeper on mobiles or that Marvel thing, so they might want to take a look.

On the topic of dubious action RPGs, How did you like Dead Island Epidemic?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 26, 2014, 04:04:16 AM
Dead Island Epidemic forgot about something called "loot." I can see how they could overlook it though, because it's not like the most important part of anything related to isometric games at all.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on February 26, 2014, 05:19:03 AM
Giveaway for the beta of Velvet Sundown (http://www.gameitems.com/get-your-velvet-sundown-closed-beta-key-giveaway-672.html), a strange multiplayer RPG.

Quote
Jump into the role of a star and chat your way into deep drama (  :awesome_for_real: ) .

"With its international playboys, glamourous high heels, luxury yachts and beautiful sunsets, we can't wait to get back into Mary's world." -WIRED UK

Play the people
Dramagame is not about beating the game but chatting with real people. Your social skills are challenged as you manipulate your way through and into the drama. Make new friends through shared experiences and enjoy quality time online with your existing ones.

Start as the star
Dramagame will set you up with a new identity each time. You are that someone, actually someone rich and famous. Your co-players will reward you for acting like a rock star - for being fun, etertaining and pushing the story forward. You have history, you have motives and you have reasons to chat. Find your inner demons and angels as you explore your id.

Life is too short to grind away
Dramagame has a running start directly into the best gameplay. No grinding for levels required. No grinding required to learn the game. People from various backgrounds aged 16 - 50 are already enjoying the game, so can you. Use your browser to enter the game and get a full repeatable experience the length of a TV-episode.

Holy Grail of games
Dramagame is massively emergent gameplay. We've made the storylines, yet you control the story and the twists along the way. No harvesting the crops day in-and-out. No twitching about with guns. No scoreboards to beat to death. Instead, Dramagame is deep, truly social entertainment.

Seems like the foundations they could successfully build the Jane Austen MMORPG on.
Only 400 keys left.

EDIT: "Gameplay" and more info in a 2 minutes video. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-26LYFReSc)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on February 26, 2014, 10:35:53 AM
Mighty Quest is not a good video game.


So strange because the videos make it look amazing.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on February 26, 2014, 06:33:01 PM
Sign up for the Tropico 5 closed beta here:

http://betatest.kalypsomedia.com/TROPICO5

Requires a Kalypso gameaccount as well as an account on the Kalypso forums, so some form-filling needed if those aren't created yet.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 26, 2014, 10:13:16 PM
Mighty Quest is not a good video game.
So strange because the videos make it look amazing.
Remember the trailer for Dead Island? Yea.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on February 27, 2014, 07:29:02 AM
Sign up for the Tropico 5 closed beta here:

OH KAY.....


IS THAT ABRAHAM LINCOLN?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on February 27, 2014, 10:00:52 AM
It looks like their clumsy attempt of a capitalist El Commandante.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on February 27, 2014, 11:09:55 AM
Sign up for the Tropico 5 closed beta here:

OH KAY.....


IS THAT ABRAHAM LINCOLN?

Fidel Lincoln. Abraham Castro. I'm partial to the latter.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on March 01, 2014, 10:38:19 AM
Quote
"Free-to-play" misleading advertising
By Brendan Sinclair

European Commission meets with devs to improve consumer protections, wants them to stop calling games free if they have in-app purchases

Complaints from consumers who unwittingly purchased in-game upgrades in free-to-play titles have become common enough that the European Commission is taking action on the matter. EC members are meeting with tech companies and national enforcement authorities today and tomorrow to go over concerns about consumer protections in the burgeoning market, the group announced today.

"Consumers and in particular children need better protection against unexpected costs from in-app purchases," consumer policy commissioner Neven Mimica said in a statement. "National enforcement authorities and the European Commission are discussing with industry how to address this issue which not only causes financial harm to consumers but can also put at stake the credibility of this very promising market. Coming up with concrete solutions as soon as possible will be a win-win for all."

The Consumer Protection Cooperation and EC member states have released a list of common positions on the subject, with misleading advertising at the top.

"The use of the word 'free' (or similar unequivocal terms) as such, and without any appropriate qualifications, should only be allowed for games which are indeed free in their entirety, or in other words which contain no possibility of making in-app purchases, not even on an optional basis," the group said.

Beyond that, the CPC and EC want developers to cut out any direct calls for purchasing in-game items (such as "Buy now!" or "Upgrade now!") in any title likely to appeal to children. On top of that, in-app purchases should not be made without the consumer's explicit consent, and all apps and app listings should prominently feature an e-mail address to which customers can direct questions before they decide to play or even download a title.

The EC has said the purpose of the meetings is to make sure there's a common understanding between authorities and game companies on these subjects, but said it will work with national consumer rights enforcement bodies to follow through with any action deemed necessary.

Hmm. Will be interesting to see what (or if at all) this will lead to.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 01, 2014, 11:15:28 AM
The nanny state is strong in Europe.

Don't give kids your passwords. Problem solved.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on March 01, 2014, 01:44:12 PM
But kids will get passwords from their parents, no matter what anyone says. Hence the initiative.



Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on March 02, 2014, 12:04:46 AM
It's a good move.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on March 02, 2014, 01:44:16 AM
Any initiative that makes the difference between free and free* clear is good in my opinion.

* the product is free except if you decide to use it


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Xanthippe on March 02, 2014, 04:02:29 PM
If my kids played something with in game purchases, they asked. If they were too little to ask, they're too little to play the game alone. If they had bought something without asking, they would not have not been allowed to play anymore.

I don't see this being a problem the government needs to solve. It's a parenting problem.

Certainly, games for children ought to give parents proper tools for in game purchases (a special password for purchasing, and so on).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Merusk on March 02, 2014, 05:56:58 PM
But kids will get passwords from their parents, no matter what anyone says. Hence the initiative.

Then these people are lazy or stupid and deserve to pay for it. Boo hoo, my heart bleeds.

My kids don't have my PC password, the iPad password or the Admin password to their PC.  I'm not giving it to them, ever, because then they'll do shit I don't want them to do.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Samwise on March 02, 2014, 07:15:27 PM
When I was a kid I figured out my mom's Internet password so I could download porn when she wasn't home.  I'm pretty sure she never caught on, seeing as she never changed the password.   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 02, 2014, 07:18:36 PM
But kids will get passwords from their parents, no matter what anyone says. Hence the initiative.

Then these people are lazy or stupid and deserve to pay for it. Boo hoo, my heart bleeds.

My kids don't have my PC password, the iPad password or the Admin password to their PC.  I'm not giving it to them, ever, because then they'll do shit I don't want them to do.

This. Nothing good will ever come from kids getting passwords.

Exhibit A for me is: Me.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: jakonovski on March 02, 2014, 08:21:51 PM
But kids will get passwords from their parents, no matter what anyone says. Hence the initiative.

Then these people are lazy or stupid and deserve to pay for it. Boo hoo, my heart bleeds.

My kids don't have my PC password, the iPad password or the Admin password to their PC.  I'm not giving it to them, ever, because then they'll do shit I don't want them to do.

I don't understand this vehemence. Do you want legislation or lack thereof out of spite?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on March 02, 2014, 09:41:06 PM
It's not as simple as "don't give your kids your app store password". There are "convenience" features that these stores/OSes have/had such as not requiring you to enter your password for, say, 15 minutes, after entering your password the first time. So what happens is you enter your password on your kids device to download a "free" app for them and then walk away not realizing that they can now buy whatever in-app purchases they want for the next 15 minutes. Apple had a settle a lawsuit about this and now in iOS, at least, (haven't checked on Android/Google Play) there's a (buried) setting that let's you turn off in-app purchases completely (independent of the App Store password timeout setting).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on March 03, 2014, 04:57:36 AM
Some news on "Carmageddon : Reincarnation" (funded back in June 2012, with an est. delivery date of March 2013 :P) : they'll soon be on Steam Early Access (March 27th), still in a pre-alpha state. After the DLC debacle of last autumn (basically, they first promised future content free for backers, then, after an announcement, it sounded like they wanted them to pay for it, before finally giving up after the uproar) and an extended radio silence, this looked like on permanent vapourware status and verging on the "scam" side, but then the early access announcement arrived, plus this "Damage Tech" video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP2rlFnqRrg

Which fits the Carmageddon style very nicely, I must say. Hopefully a fun game will come along as well :P

Here is a short summary of the project development:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmageddon:_Reincarnation


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on March 03, 2014, 09:06:50 AM
But kids will get passwords from their parents, no matter what anyone says. Hence the initiative.

Then these people are lazy or stupid and deserve to pay for it. Boo hoo, my heart bleeds.

My kids don't have my PC password, the iPad password or the Admin password to their PC.  I'm not giving it to them, ever, because then they'll do shit I don't want them to do.

I don't understand this vehemence. Do you want legislation or lack thereof out of spite?

I like the legislation just to spite marketing people, who are soul-sucking lying whores.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on March 03, 2014, 11:16:03 AM
Every business needs to have Marketing people or you don't have jobs.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on March 03, 2014, 01:40:37 PM
Every business needs to have Marketing people or you don't have jobs.

 :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on March 03, 2014, 02:21:18 PM
Every business needs to have Marketing people or you don't have jobs.

Not the same.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on March 03, 2014, 02:34:13 PM
Of course it's not.  Like Buddhism.

 :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 03, 2014, 02:35:58 PM
Apple has a huge marketing department, but they still lost jobs.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ironwood on March 03, 2014, 02:40:01 PM
 :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on March 03, 2014, 02:54:10 PM
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Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 03, 2014, 03:37:46 PM
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Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 03, 2014, 04:58:58 PM
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Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on March 03, 2014, 07:32:55 PM
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Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 03, 2014, 07:42:24 PM
I would beat the average so hard.

Edit: Fuck me, it's real: http://vodo.net/nsfw?referer=EpicBundle&source=epicbundle


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: rk47 on March 03, 2014, 08:23:27 PM
I would beat the average so hard.

Edit: Fuck me, it's real: http://vodo.net/nsfw?referer=EpicBundle&source=epicbundle

Gift me 'My Girlfriend is a President'  :drillf:
And I will give you a Radicalthon.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rendakor on March 03, 2014, 11:18:03 PM
I'm probably going to buy the bundle just for that game. Gotta support english eroge releases.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 04, 2014, 08:41:10 AM
Apple has a huge marketing department, but they still lost jobs.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/85916/Angry_coach_fist.gif)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on March 04, 2014, 03:35:49 PM
New press Release from Sony.

As of March 2nd Sony has sold through 6 Million PS 4 Consoles including 380,000 from the Japanese Launch.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on March 04, 2014, 03:57:45 PM
Second week Japanese sales: 50k. Horrible attach rates in every region.

The highest profile number (console sales) looks good, but everything else looks bad IMO.

I predict that this gen is going to end up being a large contraction.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on March 04, 2014, 04:04:41 PM
There just aren't enough "Japanese" titles for it yet, which is to be expected given that it released outside of Japan first.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on March 04, 2014, 04:13:16 PM
There aren't enough any region titles for it yet, nor are there going to be for many months.

People are buying the hardware to own the hardware, not to play the software. Given "day 1" culture and how long it's been since new consoles came out that can still mean good sales for the first few months, but I expect they are going to decline pretty severely after that.

There aren't many titles coming out for PS4 that are the best version of that title (taking into account quality, release timing and price) and fewer exclusives. The same is true of XB1, though Titanfall is at least one high-profile title.

Basically if you didn't buy a PS4 already there's no reason to buy one this year barring a price drop.

Japan...it's true that there aren't many "Japanese" titles for it, but that isn't going to change any time soon. AFAIK there are very few Japanese games coming out for it any time in the near future.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on March 04, 2014, 04:17:25 PM
So it's been basically 14 years since the PS2, and I doubt the sales of the PS3 and PS4 combined will touch the PS2's total.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Miasma on March 04, 2014, 04:49:47 PM
So it's been basically 14 years since the PS2, and I doubt the sales of the PS3 and PS4 combined will touch the PS2's total.
If some guy from neogaf with too much time on his hands is to be trusted the ps4 alone is currently outselling the ps2.

(http://i.imgur.com/0uoSSYO.png)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Margalis on March 04, 2014, 06:53:44 PM
Buying behavior has changed a lot since the PS2 days, as have worldwide release schedules, etc.

The PS2 wasn't available outside of Japan for about 6 months.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on March 04, 2014, 06:58:08 PM
The curves there are curving in the opposite direction too; PS4 is sort of flattening out, where the PS2 starts out slow and then sharply curves upward.

It's still too early for any kind of final say of course, but it's not a very promising trend right now.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Morat20 on March 04, 2014, 07:21:57 PM
Said guy needs to adjust for population growth too.

And extrapolating from that little data is probably not going to end well for him


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: apocrypha on March 05, 2014, 12:46:27 AM
Said guy needs to adjust for population growth too.

Um. Population growth since 2000 in the developed world isn't large. Europe's population has actually got smaller AFAIK.

I think that far more important is the way that gaming has become so much more mainstream since 2000 so the potential market for consoles has increased. PS4 and XBone are also cheaper at launch, in real terms, than previous generations.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on March 05, 2014, 01:54:53 AM
If sales are down for this generation, it isn't really hard to understand.  New hardware is expensive.  The backwards compatibility is nil.  Once you have those two facts out of the way, it comes down simply looking at what significant things either of the new consoles offer that the former generation doesn't.  Here is a list of all those things:







(there is so far exactly nothing.  Fucking nothing at all)

This isn't going to change until there are several killer apps that are either exclusive to the new consoles, or are somehow just dramatically better than what you can get on other consoles.  Given the stupidly long production times we have these days for AAA games, it is going to take a while.

I cannot think of a new console generation that offered so little over the previous generation as this one.  Nothing comes remotely close in my mind.

Atari/Coleco/Intellivision ---> NES    - MASSIVE leap in every way. 
NES ---> SNES    - no comparison.  We started to believe that we could actually bring the arcade experience home with us.
SNES ---> Playstation   - big leap in graphical and audio fidelity, and shift to optical media
PS1  ---> PS2   - another big leap in graphical fidelity.  Digital Surround via optical output.  Played goddamn DvD discs!
PS2 ---> PS3   - HUGE leap from SD to HD.  Massively more powerful.  Total game changer.  Blu Ray!!  Downloadable games.  Real multiplayer!  Hard disk storage.  Media center functionality.  Netflix, for chrissakes.
PS3 ---> PS4   - eh, I guess it is faster, but the physical proof isn't terribly compelling so far.  Social media improvements?  I actually hate that part of it, but there you go.

The new generation simply isn't differentiating itself in any important way, and that is a Marketing 101 failure.  We are buying them out of habit at this point. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 05, 2014, 07:49:55 AM
Since you mentioned it, if the PS4 could play PS3 games OR EVEN PS2 GAMES, I'd have one already.

Checking Ebay, I can get a PS3 60GB for less than $200.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on March 05, 2014, 08:49:23 AM
Said guy needs to adjust for population growth too.

Um. Population growth since 2000 in the developed world isn't large. Europe's population has actually got smaller AFAIK.

I think that far more important is the way that gaming has become so much more mainstream since 2000 so the potential market for consoles has increased. PS4 and XBone are also cheaper at launch, in real terms, than previous generations.

I think it's that consumers, despite what we like to say about them on this site, have developed more savvy on their purchasing decisions over the last 20 years of gaming. I think they realize this generation of consoles isn't really offering them anything more than upgraded shine.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Morat20 on March 05, 2014, 09:11:51 AM
Said guy needs to adjust for population growth too.

Um. Population growth since 2000 in the developed world isn't large. Europe's population has actually got smaller AFAIK.

I think that far more important is the way that gaming has become so much more mainstream since 2000 so the potential market for consoles has increased. PS4 and XBone are also cheaper at launch, in real terms, than previous generations.
Enough so in terms of 'people who can afford it' since 2000, at least.

Not that it matters, as I tend to agree with Paelos and Cyrexx here. I know exactly one person who got the PS4. Everyone else I know (a group with PS3s or Xboxs or both) basically said "Why? What would be the point? Maybe next year, if some really great games come out and they figure out how to let me play my old stuff".

Nobody wants to pay 500 bucks to lose their entire games library in return for...um, two or three games and some shiny accessories nobody wanted.

Heck, I bought my son a PS3 for Christmas. The PS4 didn't cross either of our minds.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 05, 2014, 09:50:35 AM
If I could tap the PS3 catalog, I'd consider it. I haven't played the Unsharted stuff, and goddamned RDR that never made it to the PC. And I do like the occasional driving game and the annual football fix.

But it's almost impossible to make the argument for the high price for something that I'd only use for a handful of exclusives and then would be an expensive paperweight vs the PC which can do all of everything but the handful.

And the XBone: my fiancee flat out told me she will not have a camera pointed at us on the sofa and I agree with her. You creepy, MS.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Cyrrex on March 05, 2014, 10:05:24 AM
Since you mentioned it, if the PS4 could play PS3 games OR EVEN PS2 GAMES, I'd have one already.


I would too.  I think it is unconscionable, and beyond stupid, that they don't make backwards compatibility a priority.  I don't care two shits that the architecture is different.  Have a bit of foresight, fuckwits.  And when you don't have the foresight, build an emulator or put the old chips in the new machine.

And as far as it goes, same with the controllers.  The old controllers are not compatible with this generation for no good reason at all.

Ironically, Nintendo is actually getting a lot of this right.  Problem for them (among other things) is that their more recent back catalog from the Wii is worthless.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 05, 2014, 10:26:53 AM
I don't care for the Sony controller layout vs the MS one (I like the symmetric sticks), but that big honkin' gimmick pad in the center? Ugh.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Phildo on March 05, 2014, 10:42:49 AM
I'm right there with you guys re: backwards compatibility.  My PS3 was stolen about 4 months ago, and instead of upgrading to a PS4, I bought a new PS3 as well as a PS2(I accidentally bought a non-backwards compatible PS3 and didn't want to be hassled with returning/replacing it).  Sony didn't make a cent off of me.

Unsharted

Perhaps unintentional, but I laughed.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 05, 2014, 10:50:50 AM
Perhaps.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on March 07, 2014, 04:11:33 AM
1990's Jones in the Fast Lane (http://home.broadpark.no/~kboye/jones/jones.html). More addictive than any Facebook/mobile game I've ever played.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on March 07, 2014, 06:34:07 AM
1990's Jones in the Fast Lane (http://home.broadpark.no/~kboye/jones/jones.html). More addictive than any Facebook/mobile game I've ever played.

Yep, played it when it came out, tons of fun  :heart:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on March 07, 2014, 06:43:47 AM
Damn you! When it came out I looked for it everywhere, but in pre-internet Italy that meant pretty much... nowhere. There were a few mail order stores that you could contact through videogames magazines, and then there was the few videogames store that always had absolutely random stuff. Sometimes that led to incredible rare finds, but usually if they didn't have something there was no way for them to order it. Piracy helped, but didn't have any MS-DOS pusher at the time. I know you know all of this, mostly typing cause it feels good to remember all that. I'm curious though, where did you get your uncommon/unusual games back then?


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Tebonas on March 07, 2014, 06:44:32 AM
Were the Graphics really that bad it in the original game? Wow, how time makes everything look better!  :awesome_for_real:

Anyway, here goes my afternoon!


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on March 07, 2014, 06:52:14 AM
Damn you! When it came out I looked for it everywhere, but in pre-internet Italy that meant pretty much... nowhere. There were a few mail order stores that you could contact through videogames magazines, and then there was the few videogames store that always had absolutely random stuff. Sometimes that led to incredible rare finds, but usually if they didn't have something there was no way for them to order it. Piracy helped, but didn't have any MS-DOS pusher at the time. I know you know all of this, mostly typing cause it feels good to remember all that. I'm curious though, where did you get your uncommon/unusual games back then?

Here where I live (Modena), there was an amazing, indipendent (meaning, pre-Gamestop etc. era) videogame store, called "Orsa Maggiore", managed by two VERY passionate guys, which imported a lot of games for basically every platform, from the early Atari (260, 800xl) days 'til the end of the nineties, then unfortunately it shut down. It also had a section entirely devoted to boardgames, AD&D, "librogame"  :grin: and other stuff.

Yeah, basically the closest thing to heaven on earth, for me  :why_so_serious: :heart:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on March 07, 2014, 08:38:19 AM
Roma was shitty. The craziest find for me was a copy of the cassette UK version of M.U.L.E. in 1987 in a toy/book store that had barely any idea of what videogames were. And when I finally put my nerdy fingers on the flatbox of Bard's Tale it was in a tiny computer (not games) store of a supersmall town in the mountains of Piemonte. They had less than ten random games, they never thought they could "get rid" of that stuff. It totally felt like finding the Holy Grail.

The store that is closer to my heart though was this one literally by the Vatican Wall, it sits on a side of it. They were official, had lots of original games and systems, but in the back they had a few Amigas and C64 with some crazy hardware dangling out of the open cases that they pumped out copies of a huge amount of popular and unpopular games by the minute. There was a huge line every day since you were supposed to choose the games from a list, handwritten scribbled in a costantly updated notebook, and they made you disk copies on the fly. Since they were pretty cheap it wasn't rare for someone to get ten games, maybe on multidisk, and for the line to get very long. There went so many of my Saturday afternoons.

The best part? The store is still there, 30 years later. They don't sell games anymore, only cell phones and small appliances, but made a point of not changing the sign. I took this photo myself a month ago  :heart:


(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3584773/Gemar%202013%20small.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: satael on March 10, 2014, 06:17:13 AM
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Game - 30th Anniversary Edition (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/1g84m0sXpnNCv84GpN2PLZG/the-hitchhiker-s-guide-to-the-galaxy-game-30th-anniversary-edition).

My first try ended just like the first time I played it (the original version) all those years ago (almost made it out before the house fell down)  :grin:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Rasix on March 10, 2014, 04:45:57 PM
So, Costume Quest II announced.  People actually liked Costume Quest enough to warrant this?  

edit: As an aside, I need to stop reading the /games subreddit.  It's like the reverse of every games forum I've ever been on. Everyone loves every game by default and it was the most fun they had ever had when it was released.  Shit, they're actually praising Mad World.  It's a bit unsettling.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Yegolev on March 10, 2014, 04:53:09 PM
I accidentally bought it on two consoles and maybe Steam.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 11, 2014, 04:42:34 PM
http://www.polygon.com/2014/3/11/5495854/texas-gov-rick-perry-esa-award-game-industry-growth

Stole this from Facebook. Pretty sure both the rise and collapse happened under him.

Maybe the award will melt within 8 years.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: HaemishM on March 11, 2014, 05:10:39 PM
He'll probably just forget where he put it after 2 months.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Falconeer on March 12, 2014, 05:03:58 AM
Hotline Miami LA meets the Beastie Boys?

LA Cops. (http://www.la-cops.com/)



P.S: Same team who made this jewel (http://www.thebuttonaffair.com/).


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on March 25, 2014, 04:54:05 PM
I'm sure my fiancée will enjoy playing Candy Crush Saga in full virtual reality mode.

/sigh

http://www.oculusvr.com/blog/oculus-joins-facebook/
https://www.facebook.com/zuck/posts/10101319050523971
http://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-to-buy-oculus-rift-for-2-billion-2014-3


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on March 25, 2014, 05:36:47 PM
Two Billion  :uhrr:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Goreschach on March 25, 2014, 05:40:44 PM
Facebook is the new myspace.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Torinak on March 25, 2014, 06:26:18 PM
I'm sure my fiancée will enjoy playing Candy Crush Saga in full virtual reality mode.

/sigh

http://www.oculusvr.com/blog/oculus-joins-facebook/
https://www.facebook.com/zuck/posts/10101319050523971
http://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-to-buy-oculus-rift-for-2-billion-2014-3

And suddenly, I lost all interest in Oculus Rift, as a user and as a developer.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on March 25, 2014, 06:36:18 PM
And suddenly, I lost all interest in Oculus Rift, as a user...

+1.  Sony Morpheus all the way now  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on March 25, 2014, 07:09:21 PM
Notch tweeted a bit ago that he was in talks to bring MC to the Rift and just pulled the deal on this announcement. 

I was going to be a late adopter to this technology prior to this; I might never touch it now. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on March 25, 2014, 07:15:06 PM
I just don't understand the valuation or the rationale at all. This is at its core a gaming peripheral, I don't see how it fits into Facebook's business. I can understand why they bought instagram, even though the $1bn they paid for that still seems mad; but at least that fit neatly into their ecosystem. I don't see how they expect oculus to work for them, it's just an all around strange decision.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on March 25, 2014, 07:26:30 PM
The theory being proposed is that Zuck wants to turn FB into the new Google: buying up various off-center techs and firms in order to diversify and stay afloat.  He's seen the writing on the wall left behind by MySpace, and he doesn't want history to repeat.

The sad part is that his strategy just might work, as long as he sticks to his word that nothing "bad" is going to happen/be changed as a result of the acquisition.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: luckton on March 25, 2014, 07:30:15 PM
I have a small-time investor of a coworker that's going gaga over this news.  He was quick to point out Notch's hypocrisy in saying that while he may not like FB, he still has a FB page of his own up and active; haters may hate, but they don't "have the balls to delete their account."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Ingmar on March 25, 2014, 07:39:54 PM
I'm not sure I really understand Notch's objection anyway. It's a piece of hardware, it will be good or it won't be good; I'm not sure why the deal would live or die on who ultimately writes the checks to the people who make it. Facebook doesn't strike me as particularly more or less evil than other companies he's partnered with already.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on March 25, 2014, 08:13:24 PM
Fucking lol how owned do the people who contributed to the kickstarter must feel?

Donated money to get the product off the ground and the company turns around and takes a payout of TWO BILLION earth dollars from the devil. Zach Braff sold his kickstarter movie for millions at Sundance btw.

Also $400 million of the 2 Bil is cash, the rest is what will likely be completely worthless facebook stock.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: K9 on March 25, 2014, 08:29:07 PM
Even $400M seems like an optimistic valuation of the company; I'm sure they're not too heartbroken that the Zuc has decided to throw wads of cash at them.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on March 25, 2014, 08:41:43 PM
Of course not, they can just treat it like a fun sidejob now and fuck off with a shitzillion dollars when they get bored.

Zuck could've spent like $50 million and made a better VR set but nah fuck it Dotcom Bust 2.0 Google mentality bitches, even though facebook doesn't have the actual liquidity or uh a revenue model like google


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on March 25, 2014, 09:16:50 PM
Just found this on NeoGaf  :grin: :grin:

(http://i.minus.com/ibgOaQYLlF4V55.gif)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Stormwaltz on March 25, 2014, 11:04:46 PM
A company whose service I don't use bought a company whose product I'm not interested in for an amount of money I could put to far better use.  :oh_i_see:

I see Oculus and all other facehelmet VR systems as the equivalent of 3DTVs; fine for wealthy young gearheads with no children, but destined to fade into obscurity as people get older and realize, "hey, this is actually absurdly impractical if there's anyone else in the room."


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: calapine on March 26, 2014, 02:14:09 AM
The sad part is that his strategy just might work, as long as he sticks to his word that nothing "bad" is going to happen/be changed as a result of the acquisition.

That's the same guy who said "privacy is dead" because social norms have chagned and later buys up all the houses around his mansion to safeguard his privacy.

Obviously he was only referring to common plebs. Fuck that guy.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on March 26, 2014, 05:41:31 AM
Just found this on NeoGaf  :grin: :grin:

(http://i.minus.com/ibgOaQYLlF4V55.gif)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/8e4290a5beef66b0def6a9a4340ccc07/tumblr_n2qpoc11zu1twpqixo1_1280.jpg)


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Sky on March 26, 2014, 08:53:22 AM
Notch tweeted a bit ago that he was in talks to bring MC to the Rift and just pulled the deal on this announcement. 

I was going to be a late adopter to this technology prior to this; I might never touch it now. 
If anything could make that interesting, it's minecraft! Wow.

But yeah, facebook has already myspaced itself, but they myspaces HARDER. Not only is dad and grandpa on the network and loving it...they shot themselves by trying to cut the 'free' promotion of business. When they removed the feature to receive all of a page's updates, that was the actual death knell because even dad and grandpa want to see what the fuck grandma is saying and not just the fraction of what grandma is saying that facebook deems interesting. And that the reasoning is to drive advertising when they piss away money on the oculus rift? Ye gods.

I never went in for facebook until I started painting and I use it as an artist network. I miss way over half of most people's posts. I'd be pissed if I was using it as my primary social network.

Also, not saving the setting of 'most recent' and continuing to try and optimize the order posts come in is a daily annoyance. You should probably avoid annoying your users daily.

The market is ripe for a new tech that doesn't want to insert its ego.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Hawkbit on March 26, 2014, 10:38:06 AM
I worded it poorly.  I have no intention of playing MC on the Oculus.  Rather, I quit using FB almost a year ago and I'd rather not support them any further than I have to. 


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Jeff Kelly on March 26, 2014, 10:44:57 AM
The problem is that those companies have the tech first and are then desperately looking for an application and business model to go with it.

Facebook has no business case, Twitter has no business case, Google has no business case, Yahoo has no business case. All they have is lots of stupid venture capital money and no clue how to really make money except with advertising and user profiling.

Google makes over 90% of its revenue via advertising and profiling related services, Twitter makes over 90% of its meager non-VC-related revenue from advertising and related services and its the same for Facebook. That works as long as you are quasi monopolist because you monopolize eyeballs, it falls down as soon as you lose those eyeballs.

They all pretty much buy everything that moves to get to a business case once the stupid money runs out. The biggest threat to both Google and Facebook is people leaving, because they don't make money from service fees or subscriptions or by selling products, they make money via advertising. Twitter hopes that it can survive on VC infusions until another company buys them and only God knows how Yahoo makes any money at all.

For their current 'business' to make any sense they have to be virtually everyhwere, any place,at any time. That's why Google wants to be on every device, that's why Facebook integrates or buys every service that is even remotely popular. Only it doesn't work. Googles advertising revenue is falling year over year despite that, facebook is bleeding users and both overextend themselvs with acquisitions and failed tech projects.

That's why Google buys companies like Boston Dynamics and Facebook buys Oculus (it will not be the last acquisition in that space): To have lots of 'old economy' businesses once they are no longer relevant as a targeted advertising platform. Which will happen sooner rather than later.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 26, 2014, 10:47:54 AM
even though facebook doesn't have the actual liquidity or uh a revenue model like google

Yes they do, and I think they made north of a billion for Q1 2013 with a net of 200+ million. Mostly through web/mobile ads. I'm too lazy to look up actual numbers, so I could be totally wrong.

Either way, fuck Facebook.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Paelos on March 26, 2014, 10:58:09 AM
even though facebook doesn't have the actual liquidity or uh a revenue model like google

Yes they do, and I think they made north of a billion for Q1 2013 with a net of 200+ million. Mostly through web/mobile ads. I'm too lazy to look up actual numbers, so I could be totally wrong.

Either way, fuck Facebook.

You aren't wrong. Their cash flow is frankly absurd, and they are pulling in massive income marks in the last year alone. The major issue with them is how they are spending that cash, putting it into other large scale investment properties. Right now you have a company with essentially $11B in cash and short-term, and they are sitting on it or putting it into odd things. Were I an investor, I'd want to start seeing some return of that cash in the next 2 years.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Nebu on March 26, 2014, 11:12:05 AM
Either way, fuck Facebook.

Facebook is nothing but a data gathering tool for the marketing industry. 

Fuck Facebook, indeed.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Lucas on March 26, 2014, 12:15:29 PM
A piece on Raph's blog:

http://www.raphkoster.com/2014/03/25/musings-on-the-oculus-sale/


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: schild on March 26, 2014, 12:24:56 PM
Raph's entire thought process there relies on bullshit we don't have good tech for yet and Oculus isn't that good tech.

Oculus doesn't open up anything really, except to thrust Facebook into a market for which their current shit has no immediate or obvious use.

Basically, shit bought other shit because the other shit will let them look like shit with more breadth to shitty investors. Shit all around. Shit shit shit.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Speedy Cerviche on March 26, 2014, 12:45:50 PM
Zuckerburg must've been in a serious purple haze when he made this call...

I really cannot fathom what widespread usage he expects out of this... It's a pretty cool high end gaming toy for something like a flight game or FPS, but nobody besides hardcore gamers are going to drop hundreds of dollars on it.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Fabricated on March 26, 2014, 12:56:21 PM
even though facebook doesn't have the actual liquidity or uh a revenue model like google

Yes they do, and I think they made north of a billion for Q1 2013 with a net of 200+ million. Mostly through web/mobile ads. I'm too lazy to look up actual numbers, so I could be totally wrong.

Either way, fuck Facebook.
Google pulled like $13.5-$14 billion in Q3 of last year. Google of all places spending $2 billion on the Rift would still be stupid.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: Trippy on March 26, 2014, 01:00:19 PM
Either way, fuck Facebook.
Facebook is nothing but a data gathering tool for the marketing advertising industry. 

Fuck Facebook, indeed.
FIFY. Companies like Google and Facebook exist to sell advertising space. I.e. Google is not a "search" company -- they are an ad space company. Search is just something that helps them sell ad space.


Title: Re: Useless gaming news & chatter
Post by: MrHat on March 26, 2014, 01:24:33 PM