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Title: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Vaiti on September 18, 2011, 06:58:45 PM
So, making this thread because I just play the most  :uhrr: game I've ever had.

I figure everyone has games like this, where they just need to tell someone.

Ok, so pre-match.

Insta-Lock Janna
Insta-Lock Sona
Talon
Riven
I pick Tryn but don't lock, namely just to prevent anyone taking him.

Before this match, I had someone dodge, and in that setup, there was an instalock Tryn with revive, so figured it best to pre-empt him in case I got stuck with him again.

Sona and Janna announce they are premade and will be laning together. Ok, not optimal, two supports, same lane, no real tank picked yet, but whatever, we'll roll with it.

Once everyone is locked in, I think about taking a tank myself, but figure this isn't going to go well any way we slice it, so I take Jax and decide the jungle. Riven can solo lane.

Game starts, Riven starts to go top to take the solo lane. Janna and Sona are going there as well. We ask them to go bot so Riven can solo top. They refuse. Riven trys explaining to them that top is the better solo lane, so the two on bot can def dragon ect; I try explaining to Riven that they are premade, and more than likely will refuse to listen to any logic, so just go bot. They keep saying they are premade and they said they were premade, and why won't we let them be premade, we are huge noobs; ect;

Fight breaks out top, Sona dies, Riven and Janna kill one, then chase the other into our jungle where Talon cuts him off and we pick up a second kill. Meanwhile at blue the bot lane tries to gank me and steal blue but fails horribly and I flash out at half health and recall and buy some more potions with the intention of continuing jungle.
Sona is going back top by now, Riven is still trying to get them to just go bot already.

All chatting commencing from Sona and Janna calling everyone else on our team noobs, plz report, ect; the standard fair. I'm still jungling concidering going bot but deciding against it, as I've pretty much figured out the pattern of this game by now. This is going to be a 3/2 failed surrender vote at 20. Going bot at this point would only serve as a delaying tactic to a clearly lost game.

I tell Riven and Talon as much, Riven has also stated as much. By this time we are about 10 minutes in, and the other team as 15 or so kills, to our 5. 2 of which are mine on ganks on mid.

Talon proceeds to say he is going to report me for killstealing the mid kills and I'm a huge noob. I'm vailidated about how this game is going to turn out now, when all of a sudden Riven does a 180 and throws his hat into the ring about reporting me as well. Because I didn't defend the bot tower... but neither did he, as this entire time he has been top, with Sona and Janna...  :uhrr:

We manage a surrender at 20, with 1 voting no. By this team the entire team is saying they will be reporting me.  :uhrr:

On second thought, lets not play LoL, tis a silly game.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Xuri on September 18, 2011, 07:33:22 PM
Clearly your fault for not letting them go three top.  :why_so_serious:

I had a really shitty game myself just now, where I ended up top as Garen along with Irelia, vs a solo Garen on the other side. Things seem to be going okay, but around level 3-4, Irelia suddenly decides that two against Garen top is overkill, and goes jungling - in the middle of a skirmish with Garen, who hits level 5 and proceeds to kill my level 3 ass. After that I could only delay the inevitable, as Irelia never showed her face back up top again, whilst Garen kept having a level & gear advantage against me and subsequently out-zoned and out-creeped me, and even managed to run off to get a couple of kills in mid. 

While I didn't die to him again, I couldn't do anything other than harass him, try to stay alive, and try to keep the minions off the tower. Eventually I'm at the point, healthwise, where he'll be able to take me out with a tower-dive, so I'm forced to recall - all the while trying to get Irelia to cover me up top. No such luck, she continues jungling - now 3 levels behind everyone else on our team. Garen takes out the tower at top, and from there on out owns everyone on my team apart from me - since I'm the only one with enough sense to not go head-to-head with the dude in solo-mode. I have barely managed to scrape together enough gold to stack a few Doran's Blades but nothing else, and once Garen proceeds to wreck house - I get all the blame for "buying shitty items and not handling Garen top".  :facepalm:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Amaron on September 18, 2011, 07:36:24 PM
So wait.  Instead of giving it up Riven stayed top and left bot lane empty?  :facepalm:  Seeing stuff like that makes me feel there really is something wrong with the Elo system.   Someone that dumb should be tanking their Elo to 700 or whatever.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Chimpy on September 18, 2011, 08:06:30 PM
I had a similar occurrence where an insta-lock yi said "I am going top no matter what" even though we had already said "Morgana mid, Nasus solo-lane." So when Nasus went bottom solo lane and our other non-jungler went top Yi proceeded to go fuck up our jungler by running around in the jungle and not playing with the team at all. Calling us all noobs the whole time and whining about his solo-top lane. Eventually one of the other people tried to tell my friend (who was playing Nasus) that it was all his fault for not letting Yi have his way. The other team was terrible so we ended up playing for like 45 minutes before we finally lost because 4v5 was just not working out.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Mosesandstick on September 19, 2011, 01:23:10 AM
One of my RL friends was being a real shit and trolling the whole game. I apologised for his behaviour and a random in the game decided that I needed to be reported as well.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Vaiti on September 19, 2011, 01:37:16 AM
Now that there is a good "Wait, what?" moment.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: K9 on September 19, 2011, 03:33:54 AM
Do you get a notification when someone reports you?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Vaiti on September 19, 2011, 03:37:06 AM
Nope, frankly from what I've seen, the report button seems to do fuck all. Maybe it works in the NA server, but I've never heard of anyone getting punished over here from reports. Also seen obvious trolls around for months. I've heard of people having their names changed tho.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Mosesandstick on September 19, 2011, 05:37:44 AM
Riot has said they've suspended and banned tons of people, so maybe they are doing something. The systems appears to be much better at catching people who go out of their way to piss everybody off in a game.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: jakonovski on September 19, 2011, 07:08:11 AM
NE Europe's problem seems to be people ragequitting or going afk at the slightest setback. One dude died two times and gave up in a huff. Kind of annoying, but oh well. 


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on September 19, 2011, 07:08:25 AM
On my 2nd account I had reported enough to get an email saying I was a level 1 leaver and to not do it anymore!


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on September 19, 2011, 08:46:23 AM
Nothing better than getting someone to ragequit on you. I take it as a sign I'm getting better at the game when I see things like:

FUCK
YOU
MORG

or have people quit after I've killed them in the middle lane twice in a row(I'm looking at you cait) They don't like it when you shield and just run over all their traps.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Dark_MadMax on September 19, 2011, 09:56:14 AM
I don't stress about normal games anymore. Its a place I learn stuff and try troll builds.  Its more fun this way. Was playing this newly introduced "normal draft" mode this weeked, one match was funny. I was  practicing my newly learned skill of  jungling and picked tryndamer with smite. After this there was guy who picked  yi with  ignite and revive . I asked him to pick something tanky but he ignored so whatever. game starts this dude sits at wolves! - I ask wtf?! - "i am jungling".. I LoL and kill wolves together with him. then wraiths then golems .Its not enough to level so I decide what the heck and go to enemy jungle to continue...  Rest of the game I was dodging enemy ganks and trolling yi by stealing all his buffs with smite ( he was saying "merda" and something else too ) :)

Surprisingly we won the game as the other team was terribad




Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on September 19, 2011, 02:29:37 PM
I am a bad player. I have been trying to learn as many champs as I can, so I'm usually pretty terrible with any champ I play because it's likely the first time I've played them. I'm also currently level 10 so experienced players should probably figure out my n00bness. I have a system. I will likely die first or multiple times by tower diving or just getting caught out. If someone starts bitching about my play after the first or second death, they get put on ignore and told to fuck off. I also tend to get better as the game goes on (that whole learning about the champ thing).

Amazingly, I've got more wins than losses.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Strazos on September 19, 2011, 08:19:56 PM
So just had a good game as Leonia. Got paired with a Wukong monkey man and we pretty much abused our opposing Talon/Singed at-will between my stun+burst and whatever Wukong does.

Unfortunately, our jungle Fiddle was underwhelming, Maokai kind of got owned in his solo lane, and our MF in mid didn't do a damn thing, sucked at farming, and didn't have piss for items or damage.

Lost 5 v 4 after their Talon raged out after getting reamed a few times...Hate when I waste good games - I even avoided a 4v1 gank by actually remembering to place totems.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on September 20, 2011, 12:43:07 AM
Their first mistake was not giving Singed a solo lane.

But you sound like you are getting there. I still wonder wtf wukong does besides spin and invis for a sec :)


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Vaiti on September 20, 2011, 02:52:04 AM
Singed was on the other team.

The problem was not noticing Maokai doing horrible until too late I think. When you have a lane partner doing really well, you sometimes zone out and don't realize how bad other lanes are doing.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rokal on September 20, 2011, 04:05:56 AM
I still wonder wtf wukong does besides spin and invis for a sec :)

Wuklong is awesome at laning. He can probably out-lane most of the popular solo top champs because his early game burst is pretty good and Decoy is great for harassing (either to get out without punishment, or to get in range of someone for your burst without having them retreat).

After the laning phase ends he's pretty worthless though. He doesn't scale well so your damage will be paltry mid-late game. Buying any tanky items on him means that you you won't have enough damage to be a threat in team-fights, which means you end up pretty squishy focusing mostly on damage items. An aoe knock-up ult is always going to be okay, but that's all he has going for him after the first 15-20 minutes. He's probably the weakest champion out of the past 10 or so.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Dark_MadMax on September 20, 2011, 11:40:19 AM
I was being bad troll last night.  We had jungle nunu I was solo cait. We were rolling them pretty solidly , nunu kept insulting me though ( I died once to tower  - too careless , we were rolling them). I had a ward at enemy blue so I go and kill enemy yi trying take it and then almost killed golem but nunu comes and takes "mah blu" :( I throw a few insults around while nunu proclaims I am worthless and he is "carrying team" (he was doing pretty decent  - 3/1 vs my 5/2 ) .then I said something about "lol nunu carry" and he asks team who they prefer me or him

Well I say "lets see " and went afk. My team went from 30/10 lead  and all mid towers down to losing at 50 minutes. (still having kill lead though). I do feel kinda bad... but there is something in LoL which just makes me troll sometimes :(


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on September 20, 2011, 11:42:27 AM
Perhaps it's that the bad part of the community really is a pack of gibbering thundercunts with Tourette's and Napoleon complex?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Vaiti on September 20, 2011, 11:55:15 AM
heh, reminds me of when I play Janna

I'll get called worthless killstealer by some carry who has something like 12 kills thanks to me, if I land my w and get the killshot while someone is fleeing. Guessing they base this off me always having scores like 1/2/23.

Once that happens I like to play the "have all the kills yourself game" with them. Where I keep playing, and once they engage I just ditch and turn back. I'm worthless anyhow, so I'm sure he will do fine without me  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on September 20, 2011, 12:22:51 PM
I think there is a genuine and real lack of comprehension of what the support roles actually means amongst the solo queue. I had a 5v5 game last night playing Karma and had to solo mid lane because no one else would. We ended up losing. Mind you, we had a Caitlyn (who I've been told should ALWAYS takes mid) who proceeded to wander between bot and mid while Sion and I think Gangplank doubled up top.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Vaiti on September 20, 2011, 12:40:28 PM
Yeah, Cait rocks mid, GP can also do mid very well, so in that game, there is no way you should have been regulated to mid


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on September 20, 2011, 12:48:31 PM
Especially when there were 2 taking top lane and I think only 1 bottom with a jungle somewhere.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Vaiti on September 20, 2011, 01:10:56 PM
While this seems like an asshole thing to do. In situations like that, rather than indulge them and take mid when you know better, just don't say a thing, unless they ask IF you will mid. Then say no. Otherwise, keep quiet and just goto a sidelane.

Way I see it, you're likely to lose anyhow with a team like that, if you take mid or not. By refusing to do mid, you give them two options. One they can MTFU and go take mid like they should have done in the first place, or two they can play with no mid.

Either option works in your favor. With the first you have a chance at perhaps winning the game, with the second, you'll have a quicker game if you get "no surrender" retards.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on September 20, 2011, 01:12:51 PM
Blitzcrank on free rotation this week is going to make me sad.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on September 20, 2011, 01:19:21 PM
Cactus time for me.  Question is do I try a bot game to learn him or inflict that upon some poor helpless saps.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Amaron on September 20, 2011, 03:55:42 PM
I think there is a genuine and real lack of comprehension of what the support roles actually means amongst the solo queue. I had a 5v5 game last night playing Karma and had to solo mid lane because no one else would. We ended up losing. Mind you, we had a Caitlyn (who I've been told should ALWAYS takes mid) who proceeded to wander between bot and mid while Sion and I think Gangplank doubled up top.

There is just a very big lack of comprehension in general on many things in solo queue normal.  Last night I ended up laning with a Yi who was being a newb and auto hitting the creeps.   I was doing proper last hitting and he suddenly got mad at me and told me to stop kill stealing.   He said any mob that he'd done 95% of the damage too belonged to him. 



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: jakonovski on September 20, 2011, 04:35:29 PM
I bought Xin Zhao just in time for him to roll in as a freebie, and now everyone and their dog is playing him. I guess it masks my helpless flailing as I learn to play him, but I'm not feeling special anymore. Had to buy the Dreadlord Nasus skin to compensate. It might also be time to DEMACIAAAA!!! because there's a weird surge of melee champs lately.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Xuri on September 20, 2011, 04:39:37 PM
There is just a very big lack of comprehension in general on many things in solo queue normal.  Last night I ended up laning with a Yi who was being a newb and auto hitting the creeps.   I was doing proper last hitting and he suddenly got mad at me and told me to stop kill stealing.   He said any mob that he'd done 95% of the damage too belonged to him.
Imagine that you are a noob LoL player, and you're unable to get any minion kills because your lane partners keep last-hitting all the minions you're trying to kill. What would an appropriate reaction?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Viin on September 20, 2011, 04:42:02 PM
Imagine that you are a noob LoL player, and you're unable to get any minion kills because your lane partners keep last-hitting all the minions you're trying to kill. What would an appropriate reaction?

Cry like a little girl?

I just started playing Jax last night and I have to say, I have a rough time last hitting the first 6 levels. If my lane partner is Sivir or some other quick toon then I might as well just stand around.

Though to the above question, I usually try to let my lane partner last hit half-ish of the minions as long as they are actually *trying* to last hit.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Prospero on September 20, 2011, 05:07:11 PM
Jax is great for that; an empowered swing will let you kill the creeps before Xena can do anything to them. It will slow down your farm a little bit, but you should still get some monies that way. It's also definitely worth picking up gold/5 items in cases like that. It will maike your mid game suck, but you should still be somewhat useful.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on September 20, 2011, 07:01:37 PM
I'm 5-1-1 in a ranked game as Udyr, dominating. Score total was like 12-3

Our Lee Sin drops at level 7 and never comes back. We fight it out but lose. 2-1 is bullshit, 3-0 sounds way better :(


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Amaron on September 20, 2011, 07:30:34 PM
Imagine that you are a noob LoL player, and you're unable to get any minion kills because your lane partners keep last-hitting all the minions you're trying to kill. What would an appropriate reaction?

Stop auto attacking.  Aka at least try to last hit.  I'm 28 though so he wasn't even a noob.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Furiously on September 20, 2011, 07:47:13 PM
Other option would be to go jungle. Or just stand back and take the exp.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on September 20, 2011, 08:41:12 PM
So I'm Karthus I just lost a game due to a worthless nasus. So being me I decide that next game I will play Nasus, I always roll the champs that I felt been trolling me too much, which in this case I've never had a decent nasus on my team. So I get flat Attack Damage (Marks, Quint) and Attack Speed (Glyphs, Seals) runes and for extra lolz, I decide to jungle(9,0,21 masteries with smite). Now keep in mind these games are ones I don't necessarily intend on winning, I'm more apt to troll my teammates than take the game seriously. Especially with a champ I think sucks anyway.

So enter champ select I see Shaco (who intends on jungling and going AP), Leona, Gangplank, and talon. Me not caring much for shaco jungle decide to declare my jungling intentions (I'm in troll mode) and call it a day as far as chatting is concerned (don't talk much for the rest of the game). Now we face blitz, morg, nid and sivir and I'm not may could go either way but shaco is like champ .5 and i've won games with ap shaco. I start jungling and go into typical nasus mode, which is attempt to farm siphons, doesn't work all that well even with a dorans blade and I come to a epiphany when I finally get to afford sheen... nasus is a really bad ad/tank hybrid. Of course that is the general census and thats why no one good plays him, but even than people still run the ad/tank build because of siphons. But I say screw you dumb fucks, I'm building AP Nasus. After 2 triple kills, 6 killing sprees and going 11/5/13 I march my murder man to there nexus kill all towers and siphon strike the bastard to death. I am convinced that this is the way to play nasus.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Viin on September 20, 2011, 09:30:36 PM
I think I'm starting to get the hang of Jax - he's a lot of fun after level 10.
(http://photos.7mph.com/Other/misc/i-B3Bfp8M/0/O/lol1.png)


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Strazos on September 20, 2011, 09:41:12 PM
Fuck, how long was that game? With all that killing and suppression they shouldn't have that much money.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Viin on September 20, 2011, 09:52:43 PM
50mins I think? Notice one of our guys died 20 times and another 11 - totally fed a lot of that gold to 'em.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on September 20, 2011, 10:08:05 PM
That morgana has the worst item build  :ye_gods:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on September 20, 2011, 11:17:40 PM
Okay, so first normal draft game ever.

Somebody asks who's jungling, and I volunteer that I can do Nunu, although I'm sick and have a head cold and haven't played Nunu in forever.

So I ask for a leash on the blue...and it's not a good leash, but anyway, I get executed. Go to golems: stolen. Wraiths/wolves/blue....executed. Also, by this point, kill score is 1-5.

So what else could go wrong? Our Kat is like: "what is this mode?" and somebody says "pro mode", so she quits. 8-21 at this point. I'm sort of panicking and woozy on cold medicine, so I apparently have two dorans, a cloth armor, sheen, and merc treads. Don't ask. None of the answers will make sense.

Somehow, we start clawing back, and then there's a hilarious ace, with three of us hiding in the bush near golems, and one by one, they all come in and get killed. We go investigate a baron, find them all there with about 1500HP, a combination Gragas ult and smite steal that sucker, and it's GG 5 minutes later.




Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Amaron on September 20, 2011, 11:46:28 PM
Nashor's Tooth on Morgana.  :ye_gods:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: ezrast on September 21, 2011, 12:32:44 AM
Triforce on Ashe. :uhrr:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: jakonovski on September 21, 2011, 04:20:17 AM
I'm gonna be the controversial guy and say that the biggest problem in solo queues is not character choice or builds, but lack of teamwork. A team can feed like crazy and proceed to teamwork their way to victory if epeen is all the other side is interested in. I had one game where me and my lane mate were 2-10-something, and we basically won the game by nuking two untended lanes all the way to inhibitors in five minutes.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on September 21, 2011, 04:54:02 AM
I just played a game with Sona where I got the first 3 kills for our team in literally the first 5 minutes of the game and 2 people on the other team rage quit.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Vaiti on September 21, 2011, 05:34:47 AM
Fed Sona, it's over.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Chimpy on September 21, 2011, 06:21:35 AM
The Nashor's is bad, but an Archangel's too with no RoA, Hourglass, or Deathcap items bought at all....

 :ye_gods:

The spirit visage intruiges me though, hmmm.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on September 21, 2011, 07:11:05 AM
Imagine that you are a noob LoL player, and you're unable to get any minion kills because your lane partners keep last-hitting all the minions you're trying to kill. What would an appropriate reaction?

Cry like a little girl?

I just started playing Jax last night and I have to say, I have a rough time last hitting the first 6 levels. If my lane partner is Sivir or some other quick toon then I might as well just stand around.

Though to the above question, I usually try to let my lane partner last hit half-ish of the minions as long as they are actually *trying* to last hit.

As Jax, you need to be greedy as fuck. That dude requires some cash to be effective from my experience. That's why I love 0 minion kill support people. They run their 5GP items (and maybe even quints) and just happily sit back and SUPPORT YOUR AD CARRY. Support is the difference between a good team and a bad one. Rambo Taric's that try to get kills (instead of assists) are probably worse for a team than running too many carries.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on September 21, 2011, 07:27:41 AM
I'm gonna be the controversial guy and say that the biggest problem in solo queues is not character choice or builds, but lack of teamwork. A team can feed like crazy and proceed to teamwork their way to victory if epeen is all the other side is interested in. I had one game where me and my lane mate were 2-10-something, and we basically won the game by nuking two untended lanes all the way to inhibitors in five minutes.

Yeah, I think people bitching too much can totally kill it too. People rage quit more when being harassed by people. Occasionally, I have convinced a team to just fucking group up and fight. All the sudden, we aren't 3 v 5 anymore and VIOLA! Game turns around.



Another fun ranked game last night, our Morde decides I'm a noob for running Phoenix Udyr. I'm useless blah blah blah. he ends up going like 3/9/9, feeding Nasus up top and almost costing us the game. I quietly tank their entire team enroute to an Ace and go 3/2/11. Best part was he was still bitching about Phoenix Udyr after the game and a guy on the other team gave me and the build props.  3-1 , LEZ GO


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on September 21, 2011, 08:58:43 AM
I'm gonna be the controversial guy and say that the biggest problem in solo queues is not character choice or builds, but lack of teamwork. A team can feed like crazy and proceed to teamwork their way to victory if epeen is all the other side is interested in. I had one game where me and my lane mate were 2-10-something, and we basically won the game by nuking two untended lanes all the way to inhibitors in five minutes.

On this we agree. Sometimes it's too much teamwork actually. I've seen games won because the other team decides way too early that it's time to say "FUCK THE TURRETS! TEAM GANK AHOY!!!!" and start running around the board getting kills, while shitty players like me solo lane turrets until their entire base is vulnerable. Sure, they come in and focus me to death after I kill one turret and knock the 2nd down to half, but then I switch to the opposite lane and do it again.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on September 21, 2011, 02:56:04 PM
I had one of those games at lunch. I tried playing Twisted Fate because I never had... and likely never will again. I can't say I fancied him. We get in and probably 10 minutes in, our Annie starts bitching about how we suck. I ignore it mostly. Apparently, we sucked so hard according to this Annie that she decided she'd be best served by sitting at spawn and berating us for sucking. Oh and every few minutes popping up a surrender vote. I mean it was ridiculous, because even though we did lose (hard not to lose when playing 4v5 and the 5 wasn't a bad team), it took a good 45-50 minutes and we pressed them enough that we killed some inhibitors. That little crotchpheasant got reported for being a douche.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on September 21, 2011, 03:15:04 PM
Good god I wish this game didn't have a report function. It seems like every game someone is getting reported for something, I'm pretty sure I had a match where someone got reported for not speaking english.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: tazelbain on September 21, 2011, 03:30:00 PM
What about those tribunals?  A lot noise when they were first announced, but nothing since they were released.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Strazos on September 21, 2011, 09:49:19 PM
So, I've been loving me some Leona lately. I generally build her Tank/CDR, full tank if it's a tough game...and more offensively-minded if we get the upper hand early...
Her early initiation is so powerful - once I hit 3, with a good lane partner people just start dying.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Vaiti on September 22, 2011, 01:02:34 AM
That poor Jax, did his team just wait for him to engage, die, THEN engage themselves? I get alot of teams like that playing him.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on September 22, 2011, 01:19:58 AM
Annie is  :hello_kitty_2:  :heart:

Feels like cheating at this level.  My last 3 games have been 8/2/4, 8/2/2 (solo middle against fiddle/ashe), and 10/2/7 (some dude was ganking my last hits).  Usually most creep kills by a lot. Most of my deaths are pure noob stupidity (1 v 3.. DIVE DIVE DIVE).  I died last game and at the same time found out the summoner platform has a turret on it.  Never knew that.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Vaiti on September 22, 2011, 01:56:17 AM
Funny thing with the summoner platform. It used to be diveable. And Rammus and other armor tanks used to be able to tank it without giving a single fuck.

When they first changed it, needless to say, my first dive and subsequent insta death was abit embarrassing.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Furiously on September 22, 2011, 02:45:13 AM
When you are losing in a bot game...

You can usually drag them up there for a "sure" kill.... Nice way to get a few extra bucks and a few extra minutes.

Actually, have had a couple games where that gave us the time to run up to their base and win.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Vaiti on September 22, 2011, 05:21:04 AM
Had a really good ranked game just now with Janna. Ended in a surrender, our team just worked really well together.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-uIZ23Mz2rY8/TnsNKvTMpRI/AAAAAAAASDs/M4q804MHMAE/s800/replay_22-09-11_12-47-18.JPG)

No raging, communication. Was just great, love it when I get teammates like this.

LoL Replay for those interested. (http://)

Fiddle was a murder machine.

And link to the LoL Replay site in case you aren't using it already. (http://www.leaguereplays.com/)


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: K9 on September 22, 2011, 05:39:00 AM
I just tried AP Soraka in a bot game

Starfall wtf?  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on September 22, 2011, 08:57:23 AM
Decided it was time hop back on the Udyrtrain, and played a couple solo ranked games last night...

First game, I was first pick and took Udyr. The rest of the team argued about champ picks, and the last spot we needed some sort of support. FUCK THAT, dude says, and goes Jax. I pretty much considered this a loss before the game started.  We needed a tank so I fired up my Phoenix Udyr runes and masteries and proceeded to carry the team to victory going 13-5-18. The Jax ended up doing fine, and our Kennen was pretty damn good. I was seemingly everywhere that game, at turrets defending and clearing waves when we had a man down, ganking, diving, finishing champs. One of those games when flash just comes up right when you need it, and instead of guys getting away with a C-hair of life I actually land that last shot and retreat from the tower with 50 hp. 

Final item build - Wits End, Randuin's Omen, Merc Treads, Phage, Sunfire Cape, Force of Nature

Next game, I was first pick again and took Udyr. Annie, Kennen, Taric, and some AD champ. I decided we lacked physical damage, and that players may go heavy MR, so I changed into DPS Jungle Tiger Udyr. I wrecked them. Ganks were spot on, ended up having triforce at some ridiculously early mark...and finished 11-3-7. The Taric disconned roughly 10 times that game and we still won convincingly.

Final Item Build - Wriggle's Lantern, Tri-force, Brutalizer, Avarice Blade (making Ghostblade)

I frikkin' love Udyr. You can lane with him. You can jungle with him. You can counter-jungle with him. You can tank with him, you can DPS with him. You can build physical or Magic damage. And on the con side, you can be kited.

5-1 Baby... LEZ GO.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on September 22, 2011, 11:26:55 AM
I just tried AP Soraka in a bot game

Starfall wtf?  :awesome_for_real:

Fought against a fed AP soraka...it was hmmm... unpleasant.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on September 22, 2011, 01:09:05 PM
I have to say, getting a kill off (as Trist) when you're in mid versus a duo (!) Teemo/Gragas is pretty darn satisfying.

Follow up notes:
a) Jungle Rammus with Heal/Fortify is the new meta! or....maybe he just kinda sucked.
b) We still perfected them (11-0) anyway.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Prospero on September 22, 2011, 01:12:51 PM
o.O Heal/Fortify for a jungler? That's dodgable offense.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: jakonovski on September 22, 2011, 01:29:01 PM
o.O Heal/Fortify for a jungler? That's dodgable offense.

I take it you're in the master league to legitimize your prissiness?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Prospero on September 22, 2011, 01:45:07 PM
No, but I'm pretty damn good jungler. Junglers who do not run smite are drastically slowing down their jungling speed and leaving themselves open to having their buffs trivially stolen by the opposing team. I don't care if you are jungling with Nunu or Fiddle. You take smite. With Rammus it is even more offensive. His jungling slows down dramatically after his first couple passes and any changes to his build to make him a better jungler distract from his tank build.

One of Rammus' major flaws as a jungler is that he is very susceptible to being disrupted by counter jungling. Without smite you are both forced to start at blue, and will be hard pressed to recover your jungle if it is stolen.

A fast jungle is also extremely important for Rammus because he's an amazing ganker. The time he wastes dry humping golems could be much better spent bouncing between mid and top smashing faces.

Also unless they changed it in a recent path the fortify buff against creeps doesn't apply to monsters, so that isn't helping his jungle either. The cooldown on heal is long enough that he probably takes more damage from the lack of smite than he gets back from the heal.

A bad jungler greatly reduces a teams chance of winning. I'm going to stick to my original assessment of dodgable.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on September 22, 2011, 01:51:56 PM
Yeah, to be honest, I had no idea he was jungling until I saw the cloth/pots buy. I mean, fortify is a pretty bad summoner choice, but I was just excited to have a tank, any tank, in solo queue madness.

But at the point I asked him to cover in mid and I was lvl7 to his lvl3...well, problems.

Also, Boots/Thornmail/Thornmail was his build by the end. The second one is in case the first one goes out of warranty.






Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on September 22, 2011, 01:53:09 PM
o.O Heal/Fortify for a jungler? That's dodgable offense.

Heal/fortify on anybody is a dodgable offense :)


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on September 22, 2011, 02:29:46 PM
So what ARE good summoner spell choices? I tend to run some combo of heal/ignite/teleport though I used to run smite. Am I missing something I should be taking? And I do realize they are dependent on the type of champ you pick, just not necessarily what's good for the different types.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Prospero on September 22, 2011, 02:54:04 PM
Once you get flash, always run flash. Otherwise I pick teleport if no one has it or if I think I'll be in a really brutal lane, ignite if I'm playing a faceroll champ like annie or ryze, and exhaust otherwise. As Shen I always take heal since I tend to be ulting on someone because they are in trouble and need all the help they can get. I'll also pick clairvoyance if there isn't anything I desperately need and we don't have one. As a jungler I pretty much always take smite/flash. You aren't dealing with invasions yet at your level, but once you do it is really nice to have a get of jail free card.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: K9 on September 22, 2011, 03:09:49 PM
Teleport and Clairvoyance are both good options for supports. Clairvoyance is really handy for both self preservation and chasing people down. Clarity has value for some heroes, particularly mana-hungry DPS. Smite is really just for junglers.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Dark_MadMax on September 22, 2011, 03:23:45 PM
So what ARE good summoner spell choices? I tend to run some combo of heal/ignite/teleport though I used to run smite. Am I missing something I should be taking? And I do realize they are dependent on the type of champ you pick, just not necessarily what's good for the different types.

flash is pretty much staple escape spell, some people like ghost instead but I tried it several times and its just not same. Exception is on someone like Ashe when you take both

exhaust is good choice if enemy team has many ADs. Ignite is good if they have HP regen/heal champs .Its good on bursty champs in early game

teleport is very good spell if you plane to split lane push or solo lane. Smite is obviously for jungling.


I dont use anything else albeit cleanse seems like it could be useful on some ADs and  clairvoyance/clarity on support


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on September 22, 2011, 04:00:40 PM
Ghost is very good for takedowns if you're melee.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on September 22, 2011, 04:08:46 PM
I would say for newbies: Ghost / Heal.

Because the worst thing you can do is die. If you have a mediocre laning phase and are 0/0, that's not the end of the world. And heal will help you stay there.

Heal sucks late game. But you won't get to the late game if your team is already in disarray, most games are won or lost by 20 in.

Ghost, until you can get flash, is good almost everywhere. You'll use it often for chasing, escaping, whatever.

Now, once you get comfortable at those, you can start substituting in Exhaust (good for any ranged AD character, and every melee character), Teleport (good if you like backdooring towers, or making sure you don't miss a team fight), or Ignite (good for early kills).


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Furiously on September 22, 2011, 04:21:31 PM
Exhaust is hilarious when someone tries to towerdive you.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on September 22, 2011, 05:13:03 PM
For a melee on the offensive I want to say I prefer ghost to flash because of the duration. However ghost/flash is a good overall combo too but ghost allows you to stick to a target in a way flash doesn't.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: K9 on September 22, 2011, 05:28:01 PM
I am really terrible at using flash  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Xuri on September 22, 2011, 06:49:38 PM
Flash makes me do reckless things.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Strazos on September 22, 2011, 07:34:02 PM
I really wish flash would leave the game. And heal, too.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on September 22, 2011, 08:21:14 PM
So what ARE good summoner spell choices? I tend to run some combo of heal/ignite/teleport though I used to run smite. Am I missing something I should be taking? And I do realize they are dependent on the type of champ you pick, just not necessarily what's good for the different types.

Always flash, unless you have some amazing super-pro strategy that says otherwise.

If you are jungling smite.

One person on team should have clairvoyance. You'd be amazed how many deaths you can save by CVing a bush and finding a guy waiting to gank in it, especially on teams that don't ward a lot. One person having Fortify is not a terrible idea but also not necessary.

Exhaust is really good against melee AD attackers, as the attack speed slow hurts them a lot as does the movement speed slow. (Can't hit you if they can't catch you) Against a team that has someone like Tryndamere or Xin you really want an exhaust. Ignite is good for anyone offense-minded and often makes the difference between getting an early kill and just missing it.

Teleport is good if you have a strategy that can make use of it. For example if you are going to farm top and your teammates are going to drop wards during fights so you can teleport to them and join them. Or if you are good ganker and will teleport to hidden wards to gank or something like that. I would generally only take it if I had a plan for how I was going to use it.

Heal/clarity are not often used once you stop being a beginner, and are generally a good indicator that someone new. Late game stuff like exhaust and ignite are still very effective while heal/clarity are not, especially heal.

There are a few champion specific strategies that can work, like revive or clarity on Karthus, ghost or cleanse on nasus, etc.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on September 22, 2011, 08:25:35 PM
Yeah, I'd like to say, my ghost rec is only based on newbies not having flash.

I don't know, I don't run flash on my morgana (Teleport/Ignite). I just always feel like I rarely get into situations where I care enough to flash out. I know flash in/ult is worth something, but I'm not sure it's worth the be anywhere virtue.

I'm really surprised they haven't taken the DOTA approach: flash only works when you're out of combat for 3 seconds. Good on offense, sucks on defense. That gives a nice role to ghost as the versatile mobility spell.

I'm also kind of surprised, with the way they tweak champions pretty much every 2-3 weeks, that they haven't bothered to worry about about the obviously useless summoner spells like Rally and such.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Chimpy on September 22, 2011, 08:35:00 PM
God, Morgana without Flash is totally gimping her.

1) E on self
2) Flash into middle of team fight
3) Ult
4) Click Zhonya's
5) Profit

*If you don't have Zhonya's, you can drop a pool/snare while your ult is channeling.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on September 22, 2011, 08:38:56 PM
God, Morgana without Flash is totally gimping her.

Fiddle without flash, Galio without flash etc...  :ye_gods:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Chimpy on September 22, 2011, 08:43:30 PM
I don't usually run flash on Taric.

But otherwise, ya.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Vaiti on September 22, 2011, 08:50:25 PM
I never run Flash on Kog'Maw, run ghost and mobility boots on him instead. He is so damn squishy, I found that if you find yourself in a situation where you need to flash out, you're likely dead anyhow. Ghost comes in more handy for mobility purposes and farming up lanes fast.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: ezrast on September 22, 2011, 09:12:41 PM
I do Exhaust/Smite on Trundle when I'm jungling. I rarely need Flash defensively since his kit is amazing for escapes, and Exhaust facilitates ganks so much better since it lets both you and your teammate get extra hits in.

Otherwise, I never leave Flash at home.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on September 23, 2011, 02:50:43 AM
God, Morgana without Flash is totally gimping her.

1) E on self
2) Flash into middle of team fight
3) Ult
4) Click Zhonya's
5) Profit

*If you don't have Zhonya's, you can drop a pool/snare while your ult is channeling.

Alright, alright, I accept defeat. So Flash/Ignite?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on September 23, 2011, 02:03:55 PM
So, insta-lock Yi. I should really queue dodge, right? But I flick through my usual suspects (Amumu/Ali/Trist/Morg/Brand), and somebody's like "mumu if you're jungling".  I ask for a leash, they're fine with that, so it's on. Ori on top, Kog'Maw mid, Trynd/Yi bot.

Except Yi dies before the 1 minute mark. And then before 2 minutes, there's a double kill on the bottom lane. And you know what, we remain totally quiet about it.

So, you know, the jungle is going fine, it's always nice to roam both jungles uncontested, I get off a gank or two, and bottom lane is feeding central. The three of us who aren't running around with swords actually get a 3 for 0 a team fight in mid. And then another.

So it's at the point where our two AD carries are 1/20 total, we're losing the kill battle by 10, we've taken 0 turrets, but the other team takes a surrender vote. And then we mop them up once more, and then it's GG.

Another lesson in not spending your time yapping at each other, and just playing on.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on September 23, 2011, 02:15:07 PM
So, insta-lock Yi. I should really queue dodge, right? But I flick through my usual suspects (Amumu/Ali/Trist/Morg/Brand), and somebody's like "mumu if you're jungling".  I ask for a leash, they're fine with that, so it's on. Ori on top, Kog'Maw mid, Trynd/Yi bot.

Except Yi dies before the 1 minute mark. And then before 2 minutes, there's a double kill on the bottom lane. And you know what, we remain totally quiet about it.

So, you know, the jungle is going fine, it's always nice to roam both jungles uncontested, I get off a gank or two, and bottom lane is feeding central. The three of us who aren't running around with swords actually get a 3 for 0 a team fight in mid. And then another.

So it's at the point where our two AD carries are 1/20 total, we're losing the kill battle by 10, we've taken 0 turrets, but the other team takes a surrender vote. And then we mop them up once more, and then it's GG.

Another lesson in not spending your time yapping at each other, and just playing on.



When you put yi AND tryndemere bot and your suppose stfu because there is no way they won't feed.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on September 23, 2011, 04:39:40 PM
When you put yi AND tryndemere bot and your suppose stfu because there is no way they won't feed.

You know, they were up against a gangplank/udyr lane, so actually, they should have been able to hold that fine. You know, maybe that's not the best lane composition, but if somebody in this low level stuff says they can do solo top 1v2, I kind of want that person solo top.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on September 23, 2011, 05:00:53 PM
Played a ranked game last night as Morgana mid went 14-4 ending with full stack Mejai, Deathcap, RoA, Hourglass, Boots.

Oh yeah, we also lost that game.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Chimpy on September 23, 2011, 05:05:11 PM
I hate Mejai's because it is such a risky item to buy on Morgana. Seems like every time I decide to buy it after having a game where it would have made me faceroll, I get in a game where there are few kills and I am never near any of them.

For it to be truly effective you need to buy it early, but if you don't get and keep 10+ stacks on it late game it ends up being 1400g that would have been better spent. But I tend to be more of an assist getting type than a kill getting type.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on September 23, 2011, 07:21:06 PM
Mejais seems like a "win more" item in that it's mostly good in games you were already going to win. If you are able to get a bunch of kills and assists without dying much you'll be higher level and have more money than the other team probably and be well on your way to winning. A good start already helps you so much I don't want an item that turns a good start into an even better one, I want an item that can help me recover from a mediocre one.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Amaron on September 23, 2011, 10:03:10 PM
For Morg I honestly have more luck just buying boots and 3 Doran's rings before moving on to anything else.  I try to play other heroes though because if I play her constantly it's just faceroll over and over.   At my skill level nobody really understands how to deny her farming.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Furiously on September 23, 2011, 10:24:09 PM
I just looked at the enemy list and cringed. I knew we were going to get face-rolled. Especially when we our Malzahar was afk the first 4 minutes.

I was top with Ashe, and we whittled down Tryndamere and Teemo then I jumped out of the bushes and somehow got a double kill, while Teemo's poison got me.

Once I got back up, Ashe and I took them out a couple more times, I might have died again to Teemo's poison. Then Akali started rolling kills. So we went and shut her down. After that it was a few traded team fights, then we took out two towers while most of the team was dead and they surrendered.  I really need to work on getting more creep kills as a melee. It's darn tough against range.

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1870260/riven.jpg)


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on September 23, 2011, 11:23:19 PM
Just won a ranked game singlehandedly as Singed. They rolled my 4 teammates and were headed to baron to really fuck us. I predict the move, arrive there with about 1/3 baron health left, run into the entire 5 ma,n poisoning, and i waited till the tiniest silver of health to fling Nashor.

+300 G!

I die. My 4 teammates get baron. HUGE game swing. WOO


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on September 24, 2011, 02:25:18 AM
Man, I had a weird game today where this Gangplank (and obvious smurf) was giving me a ton of shit.  He said something every time he got a kill on me or even when someone else did.  I was 15/5/3 and solo pushed mid past an Annie (with others thrown in at times) to the point where I had downed the inhibitor without a soul around me.  The Annie was getting tooled so bad they had a Mordkaiser stand in as punching dummy as she tried to gank other lanes.

Gangplank: "hey cait, where you think you're going"
me: "your base, mostly"

He got me 3 times but not before I was solo pushing the towers near the nexus. Most of his kills were of the team variety as well (fing Taric).  Still.. yap yap yap.  

Gangplank in top: "You're only winning because my stupid team fed you".. as I calmly solo down the Nexus, while he's still in top trying to kill the Cho'gal that led off the game with "ok, guys, tell me what to do, first game".  

Next game was almost as weird.   Game had 4 guys that had queued together and  I think were just on lower level chars.  All Brazilians. Told me to go mid.  Good players and that was a good thing because the Morgana in mid (solo) was pretty damn tough.  8/1/13 and got some good shots off.  Trap is a godsend, but I need to get better as escapes in general.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Furiously on September 24, 2011, 03:18:29 AM
2nd game seems odd due to the lack of creeps you killed.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Mosesandstick on September 24, 2011, 04:04:26 AM
Ended up in a dominion game with a Riot staff member last night, as well as one with one of the Epik Gaming guys who was streaming at the time.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on September 24, 2011, 06:07:57 AM
2nd game seems odd due to the lack of creeps you killed.


Still bad at last hitting and first time v morg.  Last half of the game seemed to be mostly team fights in my lane.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: K9 on September 24, 2011, 08:54:23 AM
First win without a death!


Their Brand really wasn't very good, and once I got ahead it was easy. I think they had a pretty rubbish team overall.

Had a fun game playing AP Soraka in Mid too



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Amaron on September 24, 2011, 03:33:20 PM
That Cho'Gath couldn't maintain 1 cs per minute.  :ye_gods:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Furiously on September 24, 2011, 06:54:00 PM
2nd game seems odd due to the lack of creeps you killed.


Still bad at last hitting and first time v morg.  Last half of the game seemed to be mostly team fights in my lane.

One trick is to take out the back ones first.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Strazos on September 24, 2011, 07:56:11 PM
I love Leona. I think I went something like 13 and 4 with her today.


I think that game started with my and GP v Mord and Rammus...they got absolutely schooled at every opportunity.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on September 27, 2011, 08:50:54 AM
I could be doing it wrong but I never find last hitting with morg in the early game to be very game changing. it helps for sure but as soon as your circle is rank 3 you can kill an entire wave of creeps by placing it in the center and will get last hit on all of them.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Prospero on September 27, 2011, 06:12:34 PM
If you do that though you will push your lane more than is probably healthy if they have a decent jungler.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on September 27, 2011, 06:14:05 PM
Normally the case but morg is very hard to gank like that.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Prospero on September 27, 2011, 06:25:26 PM
Maybe with your summoners up, but even she isn't immortal.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Mosesandstick on September 27, 2011, 06:38:07 PM
Can't be CCed + flash makes it pretty tough.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Nightblade on September 27, 2011, 07:11:18 PM
Can't be CCed + flash makes it pretty tough.

They can bait you into using it, or even break it beforehand by just using magic damage.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Prospero on September 27, 2011, 07:31:07 PM
Having flash means that summoner's are up. I frequently harass top to force them to blow their escape spelss, run off to do golems, and then come back for the real gank. It's pretty rare that I don't get a kill as long as my teammate knows what the buttons do.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Chimpy on September 27, 2011, 08:45:27 PM
Wards in the river weeds are your friend mid-lane as Morgana if they have a jungler (or people who roam a lot).


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: jakonovski on September 28, 2011, 01:54:10 AM
I had fun using Poppy last night, never played with such burst before. The downside is that in lvl14 solo queues you're 99% sure to die in every major engagement.
 


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Mosesandstick on September 28, 2011, 03:47:22 AM
Morgana is supposed to take mid. She is literally the hardest hero to gank unless she stands there to let you pop her black shield. To make things worse, most junglers lack the magic damage to pop her black shield, she can just walk back to the safety of her turret. And Morgana doesn't need to play hyper aggressive, she can just lay down soils and sit back. Not saying she can't be ganked, but the effort required dwarfs nearly other hero in the game.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on September 28, 2011, 10:28:35 AM
So, I've got a thing to get to at 8, but it's like 6:40, and I want to make dinner. Totally time for a Dominion game in there.

Might as well play Teemo for the first time too, hear he's good. Then everything loads up....why are there three lanes? Why do I only have 475 gold? Noooooo.

But it might go quick? And when my lane mate Xin facechecks a bush before I ever arrive to lane (I'm busy frantically looking up guides), and finds Akali and Rammus, and then facechecks the bush again, just to make sure that they're still there and kill him a second time, it's looking good. A third death by Xin before 5 minutes and everything is perfect.

But then we manage to drag the game out. Akali just steamrolls us early, but our Cait is rolling over their Teemo, and I'm managing to farm it up while Xin runs around. But time keeps on ticking, and ticking, and it's 30 minutes, then 40 minutes, and we get a Baron, but can't really push it into anything, and then push to their inhib, but they push all the way back, and I'm trying to get everybody to just make a glorious charge of the light brigade down mid, but nooo, doesn't happen. I basically rush their base and redown their inhib, and die. I'm doing pretty mediocre on Teemo, something like 6/7/12.

And really, at this point, I either have to miss the thing at 8, or just AFK, which would suck, so I decide it's time to just go out in a blaze of glory. There's a skirmish in mid while I'm still down that goes 2-1 for them, but I just hit my ghost, move quick, yell TEEEEMO and charge down mid, and pick up two stragglers, then a third near their base, and we punch their nexus in the face, and I'm already out the door before the game even ends.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: K9 on September 29, 2011, 08:08:19 AM
Morgana is supposed to take mid. She is literally the hardest hero to gank unless she stands there to let you pop her black shield. To make things worse, most junglers lack the magic damage to pop her black shield, she can just walk back to the safety of her turret. And Morgana doesn't need to play hyper aggressive, she can just lay down soils and sit back. Not saying she can't be ganked, but the effort required dwarfs nearly other hero in the game.

Also, unless you make your move just as Morgana is making a push on your mid champ, she'll probably have her nuke available to aid escaping. You can farm mid at a decent pace just using Soil and autoattacks, saving nukes for escapes or to poke at the enemy.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on September 29, 2011, 10:56:54 AM
Soil is expensive. If you can force Morgana to farm with soil and also to use shield from time to time she will be low on mana. To kill someone she needs to ult, binding and soil, which costs a lot of mana, which she often won't have if you are playing against her correctly.

Also most Morganas will shield as soon as there is a whiff of threat, rather than when that threat is incoming, which means you can often just wait it out. Maybe not so much for ganks but to just grind her down over time.

It is pretty had to get a kill on Morg but it's also very hard for her to kill anyone or convincingly win her lane. She does no real damage in lane without her ult, especially if you can dodge Q and or stay behind minions.

As Cass mid I go from breaking even vs. Morg to dominating, rarely losing. I put a bunch of damage on her and she puts very little on me, if she shields I just wait for it to go on CD then damage her. It helps that my spells are cheap and I'm a DPS mage more than one-and-done. I can usually force her to spam soil just to keep her health up, which means she doesn't have the mana for a full combo and no real chance to kill me. Also I dodge Q like a boss.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on September 29, 2011, 03:11:34 PM
Lunchtime bitchy fun! Got in a game of Summoner's, picked Alistair. I'm still new with him and with the whole concept of tankyness, but I've been getting a bit better in general lately. Started in bot with a Tristana against a Garen and another Alistair. We push pretty good, even managing to get multiple kills on Garen and one or two on Allistair before the first turret goes. As a matter of fact, we cleared the first 2 turrets on bottom before anyone else even pushed any further. At this point, team fights start breaking out, and there's a lot of back and forth along the mid. Finally, me and the Veigar see that the entire opposing team is pushing mid, so the two of us push that bot again. The Jungling Yi starts bitching at us, then starts bitching at me in broken Net speak because I'm dying so much. Now, I'll admit, I died a fuckload in this game. In fact, I was 0/17 at the end, BUT I ended up with 13 assists. I think the Yi was 7/6/7 but was bitching at me because of all my deaths. It seemed like most team fights that were not 4 or 5 of us hammering on 1-2, I would be left behind and focused to death.

I didn't expect a lot of kills, and I die a lot more than more competent players. But shouldn't the fact that I got 13 assists mitigate that? Oh and we won, thanks in part to the whole team diving through the center turrets and inhibitors. My creep score was also terrible (47) but I think part of that was Tristana getting a lot of those.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on September 29, 2011, 03:15:29 PM
That seems like a fair amount of dirt to be eating as Alistair.   Yi's tend to bitch.  Only champ that draws a douchier player base at this (lower) level seems to be Trynd.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on September 29, 2011, 03:24:56 PM
Oh I don't doubt I was dying more than I should. Most of my deaths also tended to be 2 and 3 v 1, while I watched my (apparently smarter) teammates run the fuck the other way.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on September 29, 2011, 03:28:29 PM
I tend to play like a coward.  It works out for me.  Of course, this means letting my overly-ballsy teammates die at times, which I probably shouldn't do.  

Some people just love to engage against really crappy odds and in really bad situations.  Always ends up the same for them too.  Rambo never makes it out alive.  Sometimes I feel bad and eat a death because I'm trying to CC the rampaging deathball that's plowing through my entire team.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Chimpy on September 29, 2011, 03:35:36 PM
If your tank is dying but your team is winning the team fights then it is all gravy.

If your tank dies and you end up not getting a kill advantage then it becomes an issue.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Dark_MadMax on September 29, 2011, 03:40:51 PM
Now, I'll admit, I died a fuckload in this game. In fact, I was 0/17 at the end, BUT I ended up with 13 assists. I think the Yi was 7/6/7 but was bitching at me because of all my deaths. It seemed like most team fights that were not 4 or 5 of us hammering on 1-2, I would be left behind and focused to death.

I didn't expect a lot of kills, and I die a lot more than more competent players. But shouldn't the fact that I got 13 assists mitigate that? Oh and we won, thanks in part to the whole team diving through the center turrets and inhibitors. My creep score was also terrible (47) but I think part of that was Tristana getting a lot of those.

Ok honestly 0/17/13 is pretty horrible score. In fact I havent see anyone that bad (but then again I been level 30 for a while). CS=47 is also something I see only on dedicated supports in ranked games only. In generally dying is never worth it  unless a) you kill tower b) you steal baron c) your team gets an ace,  tanks are not really expected to carry but keeping the number of deaths down is still very important.  Assists could be misleading so hard to tell here but generally good tank has 80%+ of all his team total kills in assists


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Mosesandstick on September 29, 2011, 04:08:50 PM
Tanks are supposed to be the first to die, as long as your deaths are worthwhile.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Chimpy on September 29, 2011, 04:32:53 PM
MadMax, give the newer people a break. You may be HotShotGG caliber in your own mind but a lot of the people you are belittling have not even played 100 games yet.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on September 29, 2011, 04:43:54 PM
I still have problems remembering where the buffs are for each side.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Typhon on September 29, 2011, 05:04:55 PM
There is a mental gap between having fun when you first start playing (diving in, kicking ass) and having fun because you are playing smart.

It takes awhile before you learn that playing like a pussy makes the moment taste like shit, but the entire game taste better.  For some of the guys that I played with, that's a three month gap.   (some will just never bridge that gap)

At some point after that, you start to get a better sense of when you can be more aggressive and when you can't.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Dark_MadMax on September 29, 2011, 05:25:32 PM
MadMax, give the newer people a break. You may be HotShotGG caliber in your own mind but a lot of the people you are belittling have not even played 100 games yet.

Wasnt trying to be a dick .  One of the first things which improved my game was understanding that dying is  not worth it most of the time and tactical cowardly retreat is better than heroic death


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ice Cream Emperor on September 29, 2011, 05:54:51 PM

Part of that shift in mindset is also realizing which characters will make it easier for you to be effective while erring on the side of caution. An overly-conservative Alistair could end up being nearly-useless to a team, whereas a conservative Ashe or Janna or Kog'maw will still be able to contribute, even if they miss opportunities to initiate or be effectively-aggressive because they are still training the 'don't die!' reflex that others have internalized.

It's true, though, when I watch streams of some of the better players I often find myself going 'why aren't you fighting? There's a fight right over there, why aren't you going there?!' while they sit and farm, seemingly oblivious but in-fact having just decided that it wasn't a fight worth getting involved in.

Of course the enormous gray-area in when it is and is not a good idea to engage in a fight means that this is by far the thing that players will most often disagree about -- especially since everyone is at a different point on the learning curve, and also because people are trying to over-correct in both directions simultaneously.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on September 29, 2011, 06:12:39 PM
Hyper conservatism is the reason why I don't get all jizzy about LoL as esports or hyper interested in playing the game at higher tiers. Maybe some team will figure out how to punish all the lazy players, but for now even watching a competitive LoL match with all the hyper ventilating commentary is the easiest way to go to sleep.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Strazos on September 29, 2011, 09:29:58 PM
I didn't expect a lot of kills, and I die a lot more than more competent players. But shouldn't the fact that I got 13 assists mitigate that?

What Mad_Max said, but I'll be nicer about it - especially as Alistar, who has decent sustain and CC and HP, you should not be dying like this. Especially when part of your job is to go in first, you really need to watch where and when you engage. Try to force the opponent team to make the first mistake, then try to punish them ruthlessly for it.

Remember - Discretion is the better part of Valor.

EDIT: Watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVg6fmiICdI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVg6fmiICdI) - do you really want to disappoint her with your feeding? Also, she helped me realize that trading kills is really stupid if it can be avoided.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on September 29, 2011, 11:02:20 PM
Here's the thing. I know I suck, and part of that is the fact that I'm naturally aggressive in games. I came to play and to me play means fight and fight means RRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGG!!! Tempering that is difficult. 13 assists tells me that yes, I died too much, but I was helping. No one in the game got more assists, no one on our team got more than 8 or 9 kills, and we still won the game. I was more concerned with my low creep score than my high deaths or no kills.

I also initiated a good bit - which is part of why I died so goddamn many times. I initiate with 2 other teammates around me, within 20 seconds I'm dead and my teammates aren't in view. It doesn't help to initiate if your team is hightailing it the other way.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Strazos on September 29, 2011, 11:21:03 PM
Well, yeah there's that problem - passive teams that don't want to fight.

I'm super aggressive too, as if my Bloodbowl play wasn't indication enough. Just follow 3 simple rules -

1. Don't Die
2. Kill Creeps
3. Goto 1


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Chimpy on September 30, 2011, 12:30:53 AM
So I just play a Dominion game.

Sivir and Garen apparently were real life friends.

Sivir is not paying attention to anything the whole team says at the beginning which pretty much was "Garen goes to the lower point, everyone else top".

Sivir proceeds to follow Garen bottom, then spend the next 2 minutes talking about some bitch they both know he was "talking on the phone for an hour" with just now. Literally neither one of them are paying attention to shit while me (on Rammus), Ashe, and Jarvan are busy trying to defend the other two points while those two chucklefucks can't even keep one turret alone against Malzahar. Game proceeds with them capturing and keeping 4 points pretty much non-stop.

And I finish the game dead last because I spend the whole time dying to defend points we do have 3v1.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on September 30, 2011, 01:05:36 AM
I got paired (as Gangplank) with the same Trist, (who was pretty good) and we just obliterated in two straight games.  Both times I got put up top against people that thought it'd be a good idea to keep eating a face full of Parrrley and tower dive.  The Trist pretty much had middle locked down the entire time.

10/0/8 and 14/0/10.  Both games didn't make it past 30 minutes.  The Trist only died 4 times between both games as well, and she had a Xin all over her first game.  

Plank is a little nuts though.  He's already been nerfed right?  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on September 30, 2011, 07:56:43 AM
You add that Trist as a friend? Duo queuing is great because you know at least 1 person won't be horrible :)


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Kirth on September 30, 2011, 08:50:03 AM
Lost four games in a row on dominion last night, mostly due to teammates who ignore objectives, tower dive 3+ people etc... Had a yi who while i was trying to recap a point chase an ashe and then subsequently die to someone else. Had people just cap point and then rush of to die one by one to the team of people coming to recap. Hold 3 and wait doesn't jive with most players it seems.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Mosesandstick on September 30, 2011, 08:55:48 AM
It definitely doesn't. I think the most apt analogy I've heard is it's like watching 7 year olds chase a football around a pitch.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: K9 on September 30, 2011, 09:26:34 AM
I seem to be having a run of games where simply terrible players are present.

First example: Enemy Soraka rushes Archangels Staff and then bets basic boots and starts spamming /all abut how they only have 1K health and it's not fair. They then vendor their stuff and start building Rabadons, spending quite a lot of time dead in between. They then vendor everything and well.... you can see.


Second example: I get teamed up with this group, which includes a Teemo who just won't stop dying. The enemy Teemo DCs for about 20mins and even though we are 5v4, our Teemo and MF keep running off solo and getting ganked. Fortunately Myself, WW and Yi are pretty competent, and manage to hold things together as a pack of three. Teemo seems to have some obsession with the bottom lane, and just runs off to overextend himself. Even with the three of us yelling at him not to go alone, to fall back the guy just does nothing. Probably had us on ignore by that point. At one stage he had both Mejai's and Blade of the Occult, and was building something with a Giant's Belt. He traded his Mejai's in for Warmogs by the end of the game though. Somehow, even when we made it back to 5v5, the three of us who were competent managed to push one inhibitor, then Yi got two aces and we got the other inhibitors down, then it was gg. Bizarre game.

I check the Teemo afterwards. He is level 10 with only 2 wins; our MF was level 13 with only 3 wins... What the hell? Are these people only playing Bot games and losing or something?



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Chimpy on September 30, 2011, 09:29:31 AM
A lot of people don't play vs people when they first start. The wins only show for normal games, so you may have gotten two people who have maybe played 20 games in Normal between them.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Chimpy on September 30, 2011, 04:33:58 PM
So I just dodged a queue simply due to knowing that my team were going to be douchebags.

I pick Lux and the Soraka says "If you are as bad as the last Lux I had, don't play".

So I tell him to fuck off and him and the MF say "Oh you must be a bad lux" "bad lux want mid?".


Makes me want to not even play the game at all anymore.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Kirth on September 30, 2011, 05:01:51 PM
So I just dodged a queue simply due to knowing that my team were going to be douchebags.

I pick Lux and the Soraka says "If you are as bad as the last Lux I had, don't play".

So I tell him to fuck off and him and the MF say "Oh you must be a bad lux" "bad lux want mid?".


Makes me want to not even play the game at all anymore.

I'd pay 30$ to not have to Queue with these people.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Dark_MadMax on September 30, 2011, 05:06:44 PM
So I just dodged a queue simply due to knowing that my team were going to be douchebags.


I lost 8 in a  row in dominion and I needed a win before heading to bed. I started dodging and somehow it didnt do any time penalty all 2 times I dropped  ( I did it in last possible second). I wonder if its a dominion or just general glitch , it would be sweet to dodge ranked with no penalties!


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: ezrast on September 30, 2011, 06:42:13 PM
It's a Dominion glitch. They're working on it.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on September 30, 2011, 07:02:35 PM
It's a Dominion glitch. They're working on it.

Goddammit


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Viin on September 30, 2011, 10:07:30 PM
Draft mode blows - one afk dude ruins it for everyone for hours.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on October 02, 2011, 01:18:24 PM
Seriously, I think lol may make me start using ethnic slurs.  Seriously, roa is not a bad item for chogall


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on October 02, 2011, 01:34:30 PM
So far I've been playing mostly dominion, but I haven't had too many bad stories yet.   Occasionally someone just totally loses their shit though.  But luckily as a Starcraft 2 player, I'm well versed in BM already  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: jakonovski on October 03, 2011, 09:45:06 AM
Ok, so, Akali. She's become a staple in just about every game, and she's pretty much unstoppable in most. Does she actually have a weakness one could exploit? In Summoner's Rift that is, in Dominion it's like don't take a team without Rammus and Akali because you'll lose.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on October 03, 2011, 09:49:22 AM
Ok, so, Akali. She's become a staple in just about every game, and she's pretty much unstoppable in most. Does she actually have a weakness one could exploit? In Summoner's Rift that is, in Dominion it's like don't take a team without Rammus and Akali because you'll lose.

You play draft and always ban her, only counter I'm currently aware of.  :uhrr:  If you're on Summoner's Rift and she gets a few early kills in her lane, you already lost the match.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Megrim on October 03, 2011, 10:00:20 AM
Ok, so, Akali. She's become a staple in just about every game, and she's pretty much unstoppable in most. Does she actually have a weakness one could exploit? In Summoner's Rift that is, in Dominion it's like don't take a team without Rammus and Akali because you'll lose.

Buy wards.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on October 03, 2011, 10:06:15 AM
And then Oracle's.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on October 03, 2011, 10:36:33 AM
I countered her last night with Phoenix Udyr and a sunfire cape. Go ahead, bitch...stay in your circle :)

Too bad we lost that ranked game, even though we were up kills by like 15. Our last guy took Annie when we already had a Ryze, instead of support. I went 6-6-23 I think....


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on October 03, 2011, 10:43:59 AM
Pink ward owns Akali. Just carry one with you and drop it when she activates bubble.

The only problem with this is that chances are 99% your teammates won't do this and will feed her.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Nightblade on October 03, 2011, 01:19:12 PM
Today is a first for me, I was berated by someone for playing a good game.

Game starts with me and yorick vs. a morgana. We both play well and manage to kill her a few times before taking out her turret. Their jungler tried to interfere but ended up beign driven away by our yorick predicting his intervention. We take down the tower early. and move in a bit to pressure the next tower. Seeing a few mias on screen, I start to play defensely and back off, sure enough I catch a quick glimpse of alistar hulking his way in (with morgana coming back to top) so naturally I get the hell out of there... But yorick gets caught. I try to cover his escape with *Make it Rain* but he gets rooted and punched back notheless. He blames me for not fighting them "your ult was up and everything wtf" "so bad". (I'm 4 / 1 at this point) I said nothing and continued the game.

I continue to play well;

I farm some minions in mid lane while our mid is back healing and a fight mid ensues. Yorick is fighting warwick close to our downed turret, so I move in a bit to help; I activate my attack speed steroid skill and pick up the quick kill on warwick. He complains that I Ksed him and that "all MF do is KS MF dont even do any damage". Bear in mind Im quite fed now and I'm doing a very good amount of damage, at which point I simply say "Ok, how about this. Lets take a look at the damage charts at the end of the game to see who did the more damage". No reply was had and we continue.

Game drags on, our team lacks a tank and our only two tanky champion didn't really build very tanky at all, we pushed back, after severely damaging Alistar after garen gets caught by a alistar combo, alistar flees and Warwick makes a mad dash for me, his ult is down, my strut is up and I start running like hell to our turret, with yorick chipping away at him. WW flashes to get the quick kill but I flash myself, allowing the turret + yorick to get a kill. Its oddly silent.

We manage to kill a few of their enemy team by blue so we make a move for baron. Morgana pops up to ult everyone but I run to break her ult, start attacking her forcing her to use her zhonya's. After waiting a moment I activate my ult directly on top of her, forcing her to flash away with a slither of health, and forcing the two bush dwelling guys waiting to ponce on us away.

One inhib is down so we're forced back to base to clear it when garen is caught on the other side of the map and gets killed. Yorick bitches about how bad everyone else is.

Bringing this rambling story to a close, towards the end of the game I get a quadra kill by ulting a cluster of the enemy team from behind a wall, Im forced back to base to clear it out; their team makes a final charge to win and yorick lets out one last sob about how bad his team was. Oh well, let's take a look at the final stats.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/Blade111/Retard1.png)

I didnt die a whole lot, I played smart. I was berated for "running too much" when being charged by a warwick and/or alistar.

and lets take a look at the final damage done.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/Blade111/Retard2.png)

He left before I could tell him, but he probably knew already.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on October 04, 2011, 01:33:40 AM
Man, people sure love to initiate team fights with really crappy odds.  Is there something I'm missing or should I just keep letting these fools die?  Granted, I'd say the weakest part of my game is team fights.  I'm still a bit lost in them.

Funny thing tonight, my team just won up a big tussle in the middle (3 enemies down to none for us), and were in pursuit but were not going to catch the rest.  The Kat and (I think) Veigar were hightailing it out of there.  For shits and giggles I "Ace in the Hole" Kat as she flees into her base, dropping her from full to half.  I can guess she considered this rude because just a moment later:

(All) Kat: F U

And they promptly surrender.  I was cracking up.  The Garen on my team and Kat swear at each other until the game finishes.  It was a fairly close game in regards to deaths, but every turret was pushed to their base and they hadn't downed one of ours yet.  Probably would have been fun to drag that one out another 15 minutes.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Vaiti on October 04, 2011, 01:46:36 AM
iirc, you get more IP the more towers you knock down


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: K9 on October 04, 2011, 08:48:55 AM
I thought IP was purely time-based?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on October 04, 2011, 08:50:58 AM
Purely time based.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Influence_Points


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on October 08, 2011, 01:40:52 PM
I had one of the worst Trynd's in a game of SR last night. Now, as I've said before, I'm a bad player. So when I say someone was REALLY FUCKING BAD, I mean it. I'm playing Morgana and the Trynd and I take bot against a Riven and Mondo combo. I'm often horrible about pushing too far and feeding early. He, however, had fed like 2 or 3 deaths before my first. He starts to claim he's lagging and claims that through the whole game. At one point he says that "I'm lagging because I have Skype up" to which I respond "So turn off Skype then?" After 3 or 4 deaths down bot, he says "I have to jungle" and proceeds to fuck off all over the map, leaving me double teamed down bottom. I somehow manage to mostly hold it without too many deaths, and by the time I'm level 12, I look up and he's only level 9 and still "jungling" which seems to amount to him running all over the board trying to start team fights and fucking dying. Of course we lost, and my K/D/A ratio wasn't good. It's refreshing to see players that are SO much worse than me.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on October 08, 2011, 01:48:21 PM
Certain champions just attract really terrible players and Trynd is probably at the top of that list.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on October 08, 2011, 02:03:02 PM
Certain champions just attract really terrible players and Trynd is probably at the top of that list.

Neg, Shaco is #1.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on October 08, 2011, 03:42:42 PM
Certain champions just attract really terrible players and Trynd is probably at the top of that list.

Neg, Shaco is #1.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Nightblade on October 08, 2011, 03:51:45 PM
Certain champions just attract really terrible players and Trynd is probably at the top of that list.

Neg, Shaco is #1.

No yi


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on October 09, 2011, 01:23:45 PM
Yi is a close 2nd.
It used to be Twitch by a mile.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on October 09, 2011, 01:30:04 PM
Yeah, after saying Shaco #1 between two games last night we get an AP, not jungle Shaco who was amazing and carried the game.  Followed by a jungle Yi who was...well jungle Yi and an useless idiot.  :uhrr:  So maybe #1 is Yi.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Furiously on October 09, 2011, 01:48:00 PM
I completely disagree. It's whomever I'm grouped with in a dominion game.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Nightblade on October 09, 2011, 02:08:14 PM
Yeah, after saying Shaco #1 between two games last night we get an AP, not jungle Shaco who was amazing and carried the game.  Followed by a jungle Yi who was...well jungle Yi and an useless idiot.  :uhrr:  So maybe #1 is Yi.

Shaco has been gaining popularity as his ability to be annoying fuckwad is being discovered by more and more people.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on October 09, 2011, 02:54:42 PM
Shaco has been gaining popularity as his ability to be annoying fuckwad is being discovered by more and more people.

That's how he won the game too.  He wasn't in his lane dominating, he was almost in constant roam screwing with everyone.  He screwed with their jungler, helped us win lanes we probably would of lost otherwise.  Pretty much just roamed and messed up everyone to the point that they all terribly lost their lanes against us.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Kirth on October 09, 2011, 04:14:40 PM
Yeah, after saying Shaco #1 between two games last night we get an AP, not jungle Shaco who was amazing and carried the game.  Followed by a jungle Yi who was...well jungle Yi and an useless idiot.  :uhrr:  So maybe #1 is Yi.

Shaco has been gaining popularity as his ability to be annoying fuckwad is being discovered by more and more people.

its triple annoying on dominion.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on October 09, 2011, 06:46:47 PM
Shaco got some play on livestreams recently.

Generally when a champion becomes popular out of the blue that is why.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on October 09, 2011, 07:50:38 PM
That would explain all of the Akalis everywhere.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on October 09, 2011, 08:25:14 PM
That would explain all of the Akalis everywhere.

Well she is arguably the best character in the game right now...if Akali is good and gets a few early kills, you lose.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on October 09, 2011, 08:51:01 PM
Had my first real terrible experience in a game today.  A bunch of teenagers calling each other fags and niggers.  I shouldn't just ignored them all, but I tried to calm everyone down, eventually the entire game (both teams) turned on ME for trying to be reasonable, telling me to go play Chess if I couldn't handle it or something.  Seriously considered uninstalling the game on the spot.  Cooler heads prevailed, but I'm going to simply /ignore at the first sign of ANYTHING shady from now on.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on October 09, 2011, 09:01:01 PM
Seriously considered uninstalling the game on the spot.

I think I'm currently about to go into my second 4v5 ranked in a row and I understand this thought completely.  I actually have uninstalled a few times but it usually lasts less than a week, I'm such an addict.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on October 09, 2011, 09:34:25 PM
Had my first real terrible experience in a game today.  A bunch of teenagers calling each other fags and niggers.  I shouldn't just ignored them all, but I tried to calm everyone down, eventually the entire game (both teams) turned on ME for trying to be reasonable, telling me to go play Chess if I couldn't handle it or something.  Seriously considered uninstalling the game on the spot.  Cooler heads prevailed, but I'm going to simply /ignore at the first sign of ANYTHING shady from now on.

There are some times when you can actually calm a team down that's getting ready to be all snipey at each other and get people steady. I don't mind doing that.

But if somebody starts being homophobic or racist or sexist, it's just instant ignore, and I silently report at the end of the game.  So much saner.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Nightblade on October 09, 2011, 09:54:55 PM
Had my first real terrible experience in a game today.  A bunch of teenagers calling each other fags and niggers.  I shouldn't just ignored them all, but I tried to calm everyone down, eventually the entire game (both teams) turned on ME for trying to be reasonable, telling me to go play Chess if I couldn't handle it or something.  Seriously considered uninstalling the game on the spot.  Cooler heads prevailed, but I'm going to simply /ignore at the first sign of ANYTHING shady from now on.

A good rule of thumb is to just not talk. At all. Unless your team is reasonable.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on October 10, 2011, 07:21:07 AM
Seriously considered uninstalling the game on the spot.

I think I'm currently about to go into my second 4v5 ranked in a row and I understand this thought completely.  I actually have uninstalled a few times but it usually lasts less than a week, I'm such an addict.

Dude, I feel you. I think I'm about done with ranked.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Chimpy on October 10, 2011, 07:57:42 AM
I am pretty close to done with the game. I can't even bring myself to play a dominion game most the times I log in. Solo-queue SR is just out as the last 5-6 games I have played have been full of the normal asshats and I am tired of their shit.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on October 10, 2011, 10:02:52 AM
Seriously considered uninstalling the game on the spot.  Cooler heads prevailed, but I'm going to simply /ignore at the first sign of ANYTHING shady from now on.

I find that unless you like winding the little douchebags up, this is the best option. Because there are some real cockgobbling shitbags in this game, and they never listen.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: kaid on October 10, 2011, 11:43:06 AM
Had a fun game of dominion over the weekend. The final score to that game was us victorious with 2 points remaining so ended 2-0. That was both the longest and the closest dominion game I have played.

Honestly I was pretty sure we were going to lose it was like us 9 them 107 at one point but we got a lucky ace and capped a shit load of nodes and defended like crazy.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on October 10, 2011, 12:02:23 PM
To be honest, the community aspects haven't gotten to me very much yet.  I haven't put a single person on ignore yet, and I think I've only reported a few people (mostly for afking once it looks like a loss).  The difficult parts are that I play late and night and tend to get a lot of Spanish and Chinese players.  A lot of the Spanish players think they're very good when they just aren't.   This one Teemo died 17 times in a 30 minute game.  It wasn't a blow out, but him and the Spanish Alistair were just wandering the map alone and we surrendered because there was no way we were going to win with that idiot combo feeding them.

I've had some fun games lately as Cho'gath.  There's nothing better than walking in front of your team with 6 stacks of Feast, daring the other team to initiate.  In one 55 minute game, I had a line of 3/1/17, but I think my greatest achievement was just the pure intimidation factor.  They had won a team fight at one point and were looking to press, but I was able to keep them from taking a tower 4 on 1, basically by just being big and scary.

Had a moment in that game where I was holding bot v. a Morg and Riven (a Kat/Janna combo wanted top) and an Ezrael jumped out of the grass at me.  Threw one skill shot at me and then joined the lane to farm it?

(me) Worst gank ever.  
(Morg) LOL
(Ez) Who said I was trying to gank?
(me) The bushes?

After that, to show him how it's done, landed a Q/W combo on a character at top and on him a little later in mid, both resulting in their deaths.

edit: Toward the end they tried a baron.  I had told the Janna to keep him warded because that was the only way they were going to win.  I start pressing down middle, don't see any of them, don't see the Baron ward so I high tail it over there.  Sure enough, they're doing Baron and he's at about 33%.  I flash into the middle of it and start laying down the Rupture and silences and in the process steal the Baron kill.  Team arrives and mops up.  Game over.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Strazos on October 10, 2011, 01:19:22 PM
FYI, those players are actually horrible Brazilians, not Spanish.

But yeah...they mostly suck. And talk tons of trash.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Chimpy on October 10, 2011, 11:55:42 PM
So I get in a dominion solo queue, I see my team comp and think "this should be a cakewalk":

Rammus, Shaco, Garen, Teemo, Jax

other team:

Jax, Akali, Mordekaiser, Katarina, Leona


Our shaco when I ask him if he is going bot says "I would probably be better top". He plays bad bad, I keep dying because I go in and initiate on 2 when I see Jax and Shaco near me heading the same way.....they both run, like 5 times. We proceed to get steamrolled for 15 minutes and I look at the items people are building. Shaco built pretty much pure AD. On dominion. Where AP Shaco is fuckdickulous.

Somehow we claw back and actually win. I think because they started focusing me even when I didn't taunt because I kept falling over dead at the beginning, not thinking about the fact that I had a sunfire cape and a thornmail at that point. And their Leona and Akali were the only ones that seemed to care about map control near the end, had a lot of 3v1 Morde/Jax/Kat attacking me in the jungle.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on October 11, 2011, 12:17:23 AM
Holy shit Singed is fun.  You can make fuckers RAGE.

"Hey, that stuff coming out of my butt? It aint candy."

I just run around the whole match being annoying.  Caitlyn prepping Ace? FLING!

edit:

Second game, funnier than the first. New favorite champ..



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Chimpy on October 11, 2011, 04:39:59 AM
Shoulda gone with boots of swiftness, son!

And your team won with a Tiamat?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: K9 on October 11, 2011, 06:56:37 AM
That nasus has an unusual build.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on October 11, 2011, 07:00:25 AM
Shoulda gone with boots of swiftness, son!

And your team won with a Tiamat?

Merc treads are THE boots for Singed, IMO. Swiftness are acceptable, but Singed REALLY needs the CC reduction since his nerf (and hell, I used them most the time anyway before the nerf).

My Standard top solo build is  - Regrowth Pendant , 1 health pot. Rush RoA. Build FoN. Rylai's...whateva! I'm sure it would work fine with a partner, though I probably would start mana crystal and 2 health pots to help rush RoA more.


Best trick for singed is the double goo. Catch a runner with the goo pile, run up and fling him back into it for a double slow and certain death.

I'm bummed the amount he gets banned now in draft, as I have played him forever :(


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on October 11, 2011, 07:25:02 AM
That just means everybody's scared of you! The secret's out.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Kirth on October 11, 2011, 07:34:42 AM
Every time I see someone chasing a singed I think of that trololololo song.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on October 11, 2011, 11:09:08 AM
Shoulda gone with boots of swiftness, son!

And your team won with a Tiamat?

Merc treads are THE boots for Singed, IMO. Swiftness are acceptable, but Singed REALLY needs the CC reduction since his nerf (and hell, I used them most the time anyway before the nerf).

My Standard top solo build is  - Regrowth Pendant , 1 health pot. Rush RoA. Build FoN. Rylai's...whateva! I'm sure it would work fine with a partner, though I probably would start mana crystal and 2 health pots to help rush RoA more.


Best trick for singed is the double goo. Catch a runner with the goo pile, run up and fling him back into it for a double slow and certain death.

I'm bummed the amount he gets banned now in draft, as I have played him forever :(

I like merc treads.  There gets to be a point in the game where you're not tanky enough yet and they just start heaving the CC on you.  Luckily Insanity potion has a fairly short cooldown.  Seems to be up most times when I need it.   Actually, they never really stop trying to CC and chase you.  Purple poop is addictive.

I started off Mana Crystal + 2 pots.  Buy reg boots and rush RoA.  Then Rylai's.  Merc boots (got these too late, IMO). Then tanky build depending on what I'm facing.  This seemed to work pretty well.  Easy enough to adjust and move the Rylai's later, but that slow is really nice.

Insanity potion + ghost = LOOOOOOL. 

It's too bad that he's free this week.  People may snag him before I do.





Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on October 11, 2011, 11:23:08 AM
RoA and FoN are pretty much core items IMO.  FoN's speed boost and health regen are amazing on Singed.

Some people like Rylai's more but I find I have an AOE slow already, so additional slowing is nice but not as necessary as speed and regen.

If you aren't, make sure you are at least going far enough into defense for strength of spirit (I think it it). Amazing mastery for him. I run a 0/7/23 build.

If I were level 15, I would probably run 0/0/15 for the movement speed. Or go 0/7/8

Singed is even more fun when you run 3 Movespeed quints on him.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Furiously on October 11, 2011, 11:25:37 AM
Had the oddest game last night. Everyone was awesome on my team. We went 80 to 8. Everyone had at least 10 kills and no one had more than three deaths.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Chimpy on October 11, 2011, 11:57:13 AM
Played a Dominion game this morning where my team lost pretty much solely because my team was all AD and they had a Taric + Rammus who built all armor (and both had a thornmail). Their team also had an Akali and Yorick which meant I could not do the same "lol try to kill me" all armor Rammus build.

My team built all AD, no AP at all. Irelia, Olaf, Udyr, Teemo. And the udyr kept saying "taunt is OP" when he would die to Rammus with his pure armor+thornmail build.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on October 11, 2011, 12:59:17 PM
Chimpy the only person who could build AP was teemo...
Anyway losing at champ select is always fun. As far your not stacking armor, yorick has one ap scaling skill and does physical damage.... only akali should hurt and it doens't take "that" much mr to make akali damage drop to shit. My guess is your team was skirmishing at every opportunity and did jack squat to the nodes, especially your teemo.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Dark_MadMax on October 11, 2011, 02:12:59 PM
My team built all AD, no AP at all. Irelia, Olaf, Udyr, Teemo. And the udyr kept saying "taunt is OP" when he would die to Rammus with his pure armor+thornmail build.

To be fair crit AD can actually work even vs armored teams(maybe not vs rammus). I had SR game on my GP vs heavy bruisers team with malphite as  a tank who went all 9 yards physical defence with thornmail and randuins. I had critplank with the arp axe  on top of it. I was dismantling that malphite relatively reliably   ( though we still lost, as our xin was 1/15, akali 5/12 and our rammus was useless)


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on October 11, 2011, 02:18:43 PM
Had the oddest game last night. Everyone was awesome on my team. We went 80 to 8. Everyone had at least 10 kills and no one had more than three deaths.

How did you not win the game far before you got to 80 kills?

I really hate it when I'm on a team where we kill 3 of them then instead of taking towers my team spends the next 30 seconds trying to chase down the remaining 2. Those are the kind of games that drag on forever and the other team sometimes comes back to win.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Chimpy on October 11, 2011, 03:19:01 PM
I think he meant Dominion score.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on October 11, 2011, 03:26:31 PM
I think he meant Dominion score.

Sounds like the strangest SR game to me, actually.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Chimpy on October 11, 2011, 03:29:37 PM
I think he meant Dominion score.

Sounds like the strangest SR game to me, actually.

Oh come on, the strangest SR game was the one where everyone on our team had double digit deaths. And I think we somehow managed to pull that one off too.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on October 12, 2011, 01:44:05 AM
I'm not sure if the Kat on my team tonight was like 12 or just trolling the shit out of us.  First time we lost a team fight, she even popped a surrender vote.  We were up 30/20 at the time and got them to surrender about 5 minutes later.  It was always crap like "WHY NO HELP MID SINGED. GOGOGO", while I'm downing a tower solo top. Just random shit from her all game long.  In all caps and often repeated 3-4 times for effect.   She was pretty much running around initiating really bad fights all game.  I got pissed off enough I flung the enemy Yi right on top of her.  (I had a few pro flings tonight, but most were shit.  I keep fat fingering my e.)

The Udyr in the game was laughable.  I'm unsure if anyone jungling at this play level is anything other than a novelty.  They're never effective, unless it's some smurf Fiddle that gets fed early.

In my first game of the night, we had a Yi that decided he was team captain.  You can imagine how that went. Nothing like losing a team fight after getting Baron because your Kayle is afk farming and your Yi tower dives 5 people.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Der Helm on October 12, 2011, 02:34:07 AM
Yi tower dives 5 people.
It's time!


 :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: kaid on October 12, 2011, 09:13:13 AM
Shoulda gone with boots of swiftness, son!

And your team won with a Tiamat?

Boots of switfness are nice but merc treads are nice for just ulting and loling in and around the opponents who are now helpless to stop you or even slow you down.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on October 12, 2011, 09:25:19 AM
Hmm, seems like the community gets worse the higher level I go...

Also, my god the AFKing!  I like Summoner's Rift a lot more than I did when I first started, but it feels like a huge risk to play it because I would say more than 1/2 my games since this past weekend have had a DC or AFK on one of the sides, which really ruins it.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Prospero on October 12, 2011, 11:47:50 AM
Riot really needs to add a mechanism to end the game early when there are leavers. One thing I'm looking forward to with Dota2 is that players can queue up to take leaver spots. It will hopefully cut down on completely wasted games.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on October 12, 2011, 12:01:14 PM
That would be nice.  If a person has been out of the game for time "x", reduce the amount of before surrender by "x" or "x/2".  Someone hoping in would be nice as well.  I didn't mind replacing someone in a WoW dungeon or hoping into a late battleground to get a free win/loss bonus for minimal time invested.

I haven't seen a lot of AFKs lately.  I saw it a lot around lvl 8-12.   



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on October 12, 2011, 01:26:04 PM
Uh, wow, 10 minute Dominion win.  No afks or anything except for OUR Sona being afk the first min or so.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on October 12, 2011, 01:43:13 PM
That's very similar to a game I just had - about 10 minutes in Dominion, except I was on the losers. I played my AP Katarina and wasn't doing too bad (4/6/1) considering I often found myself goddamn alone. I'm not sure what some of my teammates were doing. I think we had a disco at one point, but I ended the game with the high score on my team of 543, followed by the next highest being 330-something, with the other three having scores in the high 100's. I did get to own a Yi a few times, but got owned by a decent Morgana. And Riven for some reason, was constantly able to escape my gank attempts.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Furiously on October 12, 2011, 01:48:18 PM
I'm pretty sure riven is the second fastest character.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on October 12, 2011, 01:49:59 PM
She must be because even with Sorceror's Shoes, I couldn't catch the bitch.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on October 12, 2011, 01:55:23 PM
Uh, wow, 10 minute Dominion win.  No afks or anything except for OUR Sona being afk the first min or so.


What's your Heimer build? I've been doing the Bhodi (Warmog/(Lucid, FoN)) super tanky build for the last week.

I've been playing Heim Dominion, a lot, since my pings of 70 have spiked into 200 for the last few weeks, and Heim dominion is fairly easy to play high latency and still do well.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Dark_MadMax on October 12, 2011, 01:55:38 PM
Uh, wow, 10 minute Dominion win.  No afks or anything except for OUR Sona being afk the first min or so.



My record was 7:20 win this weekened. We held all 5 and were ganking enemy teams at exits from their spawn


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Prospero on October 12, 2011, 01:58:49 PM
Uh, wow, 10 minute Dominion win.  No afks or anything except for OUR Sona being afk the first min or so.


What's your Heimer build? I've been doing the Bhodi (Warmog/(Lucid, FoN)) super tanky build for the last week.

I've been playing Heim Dominion, a lot, since my pings of 70 have spiked into 200 for the last few weeks, and Heim dominion is fairly easy to play high latency and still do well.


If I were to guess from the picture, RoA and Arachangel's.   :grin:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on October 12, 2011, 02:03:31 PM

What's your Heimer build? I've been doing the Bhodi (Warmog/(Lucid, FoN)) super tanky build for the last week.

I've been playing Heim Dominion, a lot, since my pings of 70 have spiked into 200 for the last few weeks, and Heim dominion is fairly easy to play high latency and still do well.


If I were to guess from the picture, RoA and Arachangel's.   :grin:

Archangels was something I was going to try, seems like it would work and I was going to build some tanky mana items Ryze style but the game never went long enough.  I almost always start catalyst for first item into RoA and then AP items like Rabadons, Zhonya's etc...  Don't really need boots first if I'm just defending/pushing bot.  I haven't really needed to play him very tanky so far and usually RoA has been giving enough HP buffer to get by.  If I was running around the map fighting and taking points though I'd probably build differently.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: pxib on October 12, 2011, 10:09:56 PM
Lore. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebJR2lBZsOc)


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on October 12, 2011, 10:58:31 PM
Lore. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebJR2lBZsOc)

lol lore.

Oh wait.   :grin:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on October 15, 2011, 02:28:38 AM
Got to love a game where a guy that's feeding constantly is blaming you for the losing the game. 


That Blitz/Mord combo were yelling at me for not winning my lane (uhh, which I was) and not killing the mumu 5 minutes into the game.  By that time they had gotten double killed by the Skarner/Panth and were well on their way to getting double killed again.

The Blitz had gotten so bad in the game that his friend (Mord) was actually telling him to calm down, since he was blaming everyone but them (who were 0/14 at the time) for how bad we were losing.  Unreal.  As I was telling Haem, we've left some of the smurfs behind at this level and replaced them with guys that aren't very good that think they are.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on October 15, 2011, 02:31:18 AM
How the fuck does a Blitzcrank get a 27 CS laning with a Mord? That's unpossible.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on October 15, 2011, 04:25:57 AM
Got to love a game where a guy that's feeding constantly is blaming you for the losing the game. 

90% of the time the guy who complains the loudest is the worst player.

I just played with a WW who went 0/9 but it was ok because "I'm not a carry." He would run into the enemy team 1 v 5, get instantly vaporized, then be all "what the hell team???"


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on October 15, 2011, 04:41:14 AM
Got to love a game where a guy that's feeding constantly is blaming you for the losing the game.  

90% of the time the guy who complains the loudest is the worst player.

I just played with a WW who went 0/9 but it was ok because "I'm not a carry." He would run into the enemy team 1 v 5, get instantly vaporized, then be all "what the hell team???"

I'd start a new account if my elo was that low, dear god and I thought someone sucking with nasus was terrible.

Though to think about it, tell me what was that WW was building.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on October 15, 2011, 11:53:21 AM
Another wonderful game of "I hate almost everyone in this game that isn't me."  I'm starting to really dislike people that play hard to kill characters (Irelia, Singed) because they get so overconfident and just keep taking 1v5 fights over and over until your team loses.

(http://i.imgur.com/YuhtH.jpg)


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on October 15, 2011, 03:05:20 PM
Just had the greatest game of Dominion ever playing as Ryze. We had a Tristana, Trynd, Skarner and Katarina on our team, against a Yi, Ezreal, Pantheon, Katarina and I think Lee Sin but not sure as I didn't see that one all that often. We start out winning pretty handily, getting ahead by about 400-280 or so, then it starts to go pear shaped. We can't hold points. We were down to 1 turret at one point in the game, when we started to retake points. Finally we are down 53-7 with 1 point held, 1 point neutral but being taken and I could hear the gongs playing for our end. Myself and the Tristana figure out that we need to get that second/third point and so both make a beeline for the bottom point nearest their spawn. We killed a Pantheon and an Ezreal, then start to capture as the nexus health is ticking down. We neutralized the point RIGHT as our counter hit 1 - saved. We capture it, our other teammates capture a 3rd point and we are set. I tell people just to hold what we have (not that they fucking listened). Our Skarner goes and tries to take top point next to their spawn and I think he's lucky we had done so much damage because there was no one to oppose him. Tristana and I held our point against three waves of Panth, Yi and Ezreal attacking in twos and ones. I'd hit the snare, pop the overload then bounce the bouncy ball off of them, and the turret would help me finish them off. We finally win the game with ONE FUCKING POINT of nexus health. I think I ended with 11/10/4 or something but was the second highest scorer. It was an EPIC comeback.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on October 15, 2011, 06:28:59 PM
Nice! Did you get to lord it over any of those preemptive gg'ers?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on October 15, 2011, 07:23:48 PM
I decided, with the refunded RP from my Mac consolation champs bundle, to finally splurge on a rune page set, and buy up some alacrity quints and what not to try the AD junglers.

I played two gangplank jungles (both times starting vamp). The first one was going meh in the jungle, not really helping or hurting, but our bottom lane was being destroyed by Akali, so that ended up bad. The second time, I asked for a leash at blue from Yorick, and I could not get him to go back to his lane until he had slurped up the XP from golem and wolves. So that was about as bad as possible. Obviously, small sample size, but even in the okay game, I had a hard time keeping sustained enough to even think about early ganks.

Then switched to Warwick, and had two really nice games. Both games, got to 5, ganked top, kills both time, had a nice Brand who was happy to take those blues, Malakill did well as Vayne, and just really easy to sustain through the jungle and solo some lonely dragons. Ended up both times with lines like 6/1/15 and 6/0/17.




Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on October 15, 2011, 09:06:29 PM


Then switched to Warwick, and had two really nice games. Both games, got to 5, ganked top, kills both time, had a nice Brand who was happy to take those blues, Malakill did well as Vayne, and just really easy to sustain through the jungle and solo some lonely dragons. Ended up both times with lines like 6/1/15 and 6/0/17.


Maybe it was the skewed higher than I normally play level wise of queueing with you, but that team was probably the best one I've been a part of thus far.

In lol LoL story time - was playing an SR earlier where both teams had 2 people go AFK, so it was a 3v3, ended up winning, but it was really really silly either way.  I wish there was some way to solve this problem, way to high a percentage of games are ruined by players not actually playing.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on October 15, 2011, 09:28:33 PM


Then switched to Warwick, and had two really nice games. Both games, got to 5, ganked top, kills both time, had a nice Brand who was happy to take those blues, Malakill did well as Vayne, and just really easy to sustain through the jungle and solo some lonely dragons. Ended up both times with lines like 6/1/15 and 6/0/17.


Maybe it was the skewed higher than I normally play level wise of queueing with you, but that team was probably the best one I've been a part of thus far.

In lol LoL story time - was playing an SR earlier where both teams had 2 people go AFK, so it was a 3v3, ended up winning, but it was really really silly either way.  I wish there was some way to solve this problem, way to high a percentage of games are ruined by players not actually playing.

Automated leaving system doesn't help when a million plus players are pounding on the gate. The root problem is that you can't get a good group with completely random players. Even though the system factors in elo, which at this point is near meaningless because your either at the tippy top (and don't solo que) or at the ragged edges of the bottom, with "mid" level being just a constant bob up and down between "decent" and "terrible bad". There is few ways i can think of to fix the problem on the matchmaking side calculations side, especially with a system that priotizes putting you in a team in 30 seconds. You either change SR to be less rage inducing or create an easy to use pug system.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Furiously on October 15, 2011, 09:31:10 PM
Or you match based on % of games left.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on October 15, 2011, 09:42:50 PM
Or you match based on % of games left.

May work, but its still a slippery slope. The problem with being a mid level player is that you constantly getting dipped into elo hell until you "bring yourself up by your boot straps" or stay down there. If riot could tell the difference between my internet going out and me pressing the alt-f4 key, than sure. But consider this your one disconnect away from never winning a game ever, the only way your able to leave elo hell is because the "baddies" are well dispersed.

Also leaving isn't the only way to ruin a game. Leaving is often just a symptom.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Viin on October 15, 2011, 10:40:23 PM
3 folks were playing together on my team earlier today. At about 15 mins in on SR one of the 3 just stopped playing - sat idle at spawn. Apparently she decided to take a shower and left her buds (and team) hanging - but we won anyways.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on October 15, 2011, 11:00:52 PM
lol was it a sona? coulda been me.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Viin on October 15, 2011, 11:03:45 PM
Heh no, but damn it don't do that!


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on October 15, 2011, 11:21:00 PM
3 folks were playing together on my team earlier today. At about 15 mins in on SR one of the 3 just stopped playing - sat idle at spawn. Apparently she decided to take a shower and left her buds (and team) hanging - but we won anyways.

I'm wondering if people just think this is acceptable behavior?  I've seen lots of instances of people just seemingly going AFK for arbitrary amounts of time and coming back.  I mean, yea, sometimes real life happens and you need to stop playing a game, ok,but its so frequent in this game compared to others I have played.   My current hypothesis is that because it is free a lot of young people play it, and they don't have control over their time.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on October 15, 2011, 11:34:49 PM
Yeah, had company come over irl. took 15min to greet and explain that for the next 45min I'd be playing a game! Still, once I farmed up I was able to team support to the win.  At one point we had two inhibs down but our team fighting was superior to their early game ganking domination.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Nightblade on October 16, 2011, 01:16:16 PM
Ive been on this tailspin losing streak because I've been chained together with these retarded fuck ups who don't learn their lesson in a lane after dying two or three times.... ..... .... Thats the story.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Kail on October 16, 2011, 04:09:06 PM
On a really annoying streak today.  And bear in mind, this is all in co-op vs. AI because I hate drama.

First game, I'm Maokai, laning bottom with Gangplank.  Mid is Karthus.  We're having trouble getting kills bottom, because GP keeps pushing the enemy back under the tower.  He's not buying anything but potions and a Doran's Shield, so his dps is crap, and every time an enemy pokes their head out from under their tower, GP plinks them with a pistol shot and sends them scurrying back.  GP starts bitching about how I'm not doing anything (I'm 1/2 at this point, not going to dive anymore) but I'm not sure what else I can do unless the enemy gets away from their tower.  We get the first tower down, and I head mid to help there.  But GP spends the entire rest of the game bitching about "tree fag" (me) and Karthus not doing anything.  GP charges the mid inhibitor tower in a 3v3 and gets zerged down, and complains that he didn't see anything from Karth or me, and how lame it is that I wasn't throwing out saplings and Karth wasn't throwing bombs, thus forcing him to close to melee and get eaten by the tower.  I point out that both Karth and myself have been pushing top for the last minute or so and are nowhere near the fight, and I can't throw saplings quite THAT far, to which GP responds "sure, whatever".  GP respawns and tries to push mid again, running in to solo two enemies and getting killed because they had blue buff.  GP proceeds to bitch about whoever died to give the enemy the blue buff, and how that's shitty play.  Then he pushes bottom and dies to another enemy gank at their bottom inhib turret because "it looked like tree fag was going to initiate" into a 2v5 but instead I was just walking around their mid inhib and GP was somehow unable to stop charging.  The game ends about thirty seconds later, with my K/D at 10/2 and Gangplank at 2/5 (against bots, bear in mind) and he's still bitching about how bad Karth and I are (Karth having roughly double my score).

Next game is another clusterfuck.  I'm playing Jax because I need something with a lot of killing power to unwind after the last game.  Teammates include a Lee Sin with smite, a Gangplank with smite who declares that he's jungling, Skarner, and LeBlanc.  LeBlanc takes mid, Skarner top, and Lee bottom, so I figure I'll help bottom since top is normally the solo lane.  Lee tells me to go top since it's harder to solo than bottom, so whatever, I turn around and head top.  Then Skarner heads bottom because top is always a solo lane, and he's going bottom because Lee wants me top.  Lee notes that I can't do much as Jax against top (Ashe and Soraka) and it's stupid to make me solo it.  Skarner points out that Lee should be jungling since he has smite, and we'd have three solo lanes that way.  Lee says he took smite because only noobs use exhaust against bots, and not because he was going to jungle, and bottom should solo.  Then Lee teleports top leaving Skarner to die and GP disconnects (ne'er to return) and the whole rest of the game turned into this titanic gong show that we only won because we were a five carry team against bots.

I need an asprin.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Der Helm on October 16, 2011, 05:14:03 PM
On a really annoying streak today.  And bear in mind, this is all in co-op vs. AI because I hate drama.

My goodness... stop playing coop.  :ye_gods:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on October 16, 2011, 11:12:51 PM
Gangplank at 2/5 (against bots, bear in mind)

 :ye_gods: :ye_gods: :ye_gods:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on October 16, 2011, 11:25:14 PM
On a really annoying streak today.  And bear in mind, this is all in co-op vs. AI because I hate drama.

Really, just play normal and then insta-ignore everybody the first time they say something unfriendly. Or just ignore everybody you don't know at the start of the round and imagine you're playing with some unpredictable new AIs.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Azuredream on October 16, 2011, 11:28:36 PM
I'll just come out and say I hate losing so bot games are fun because you almost never lose. I guess I'm playing the game wrong.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Typhon on October 17, 2011, 08:40:32 AM
if you are having fun you are playing the right game, fuck everyone else.

Tastyhat I do the same thing - one strike, your out.  Makes games much more enjoyable.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on October 17, 2011, 10:49:21 AM
I had a game last night that we lost and I am starting to understand some basic concepts like sustain. But I'm also starting to be able to pick out REALLY TERRIBAD players. I played Allistair last night, not a great round, though I started out doing well early. At some point I'm running around and come up on a Teemo and I think, "I can take a Teemo." Teemo proceeds to faceroll me (and does it a few times late in the matches in teamfights). As I die, I notice that he's level 14 while I was 11 and most of my team was 9 or 10. I ask "How did Teemo get to be level 14?" to silence. The answer to that question was that he was faced up mid against our Ashe, who apparently sucked monkey nuts. The Ashe ended up 1/12/4 or something similarly stupid. I can sort of understand the 1 if she was feeding Teemo, which she must have been horribly. But 4? You can't get more than 4 assists with an ASHE?

I can at least console myself with the fact that I didn't bitch and whine about how bad the player was in the game. I know what it means to suck. I'm starting to suck less so I will give some leeway to the sucksters.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on October 17, 2011, 11:00:45 AM
Teemo's likely to monkey fuck you one on one in any case, and if he's that fed he might have a Maldred's already.  You're not going to win a lot of one on one encounters on a tank or support, and you seem to like to face check people.   :awesome_for_real:

Games right now seem to hinge on one player being awful or not.  If they're awful but manage not to die a lot, that's fine.  But if they drop double digit deaths to a carry, you're going to be in trouble.

Both games were pleasant last night.  Had a mouthy Ashe in the first, but luckily she was on the other team for the second match.  Second match we actually had a competent Warwick jungler, which I don't see a whole lot at this level.  He got his leash, didn't fuck things up, and for the most part did OK with the ganks (had problems sealing the deal some).  He even apologized when he did typical dumb Warwick shit (1 v. 3.. why NOT.  /faceplant).









Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on October 17, 2011, 11:19:12 AM
This is kind of why it's better just to play a carry, and carry your team, unless you're queueing with people you know will benefit from your support.

Rasix: I usually build at least one GP/10 on Irelia, have you tried that yet?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on October 17, 2011, 11:25:31 AM
Not yet, but I think I'm going to try a Regrowth pendant into -> Phil stone start next time I play.  Should be a solid opening.  What's the reasoning behind the gp/10 items?  Just some extra money off some stats you benefit from anyways?

<--- Still very noob.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Nightblade on October 17, 2011, 11:27:47 AM
Not yet, but I think I'm going to try a Regrowth pendant into -> Phil stone start next time I play.  Should be a solid opening.  What's the reasoning behind the gp/10 items?  Just some extra money off some stats you benefit from anyways?

<--- Still very noob.



The main purpose is to allow you save most of the farm for the guy you're supporting whilst retaining some income for yourself.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on October 17, 2011, 11:34:26 AM
Well, that's the thing.  I'm not support as Irelia.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Mosesandstick on October 17, 2011, 12:07:21 PM
Irelia is slightly different. The idea is that you take a solo lane, and the pendant gives you enough sustain that you can farm comfortably until late game when you're one of the most powerful champions.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on October 17, 2011, 12:43:46 PM
Yeah, that. Her early game isn't that important, and sometimes getting farm with her is tough if you're 1v2, but Philo/Heart will make that not matter very much, while adding some early durability.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Strazos on October 17, 2011, 04:17:42 PM
I wish I could play with some of your guys, but I never see folks online.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Nightblade on October 17, 2011, 05:19:47 PM
The losing streak continued as I get increasingly retarded teammates. Despite destroying a horrible malzahar in mid, my other two lanes were "catered"... Then I played Jax and went 13 / 2 because nobody this low apparently knows how to deal with him, that and I faced a jarvan in bottom lane that used his standard > javeline combo every time it was up no matter how stupid and suicidal it was. At one point I solo'd Jarvan Akali and Caitlyn; killing them all with around 30% hp left... While exhaust was on.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on October 18, 2011, 01:58:20 AM
Ragey Trynd and ragey Sivir in my two losses tonight.  Both liked to get into dumb fights, yell at you when they died, and then blamed their loss on us noobs.  That Sivir was really, really bad for basically only playing Sivir and being level 20.  Had a lower CS than me and she was solo mid and I had to share my lane with a fucking Heimerdinger.   Plus, their name was "FUKWHITEPPL" and spammed us with Occupy Wallstreet wall-o-text at the start.   The Trynd was just a Trynd.  Though he was really good and should keep pushing team fights when we needed to just surrender because besides him and me, we had a disconnected Teemo (who was feeding really bad before he left), a person playing LeBlanc for the first time and a useless Ezrael.  But Trind wanted to keep going because look at his awesome score!  DIED 12 TIMES.

My win was against a really, really passive team that just let me farm to my heart's content.  I think I was up 5 levels on almost everyone but the Trist in mid against me.  And she managed to be down a few levels to me because she was really easy to push out of lane.  At the end of the game I was at 244 CS while no one on the opposing team was within a 50 and that was just.. the passive Trist (everyone else was 100 lower).  I only got to be scary for a while before they surrendered.

edit: The best part was the Sivir couldn't figure out how to use flash.  Bitched about it the entire game.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on October 18, 2011, 03:02:19 AM
Had a decent run on summoners rift, with a friend whose gotten much better since the last time I played with him. Good times on vent, with me laughing every time the enemy tryndamere burst from the bushes to kill my noob ass. Easy win, fun game, ended in 27 minutes LoL. The only annoying part was the 5th man we picked up since there was only 4 of us, who was trying so hard to pretend like were in the esl.
5th player -"Hey you didn't see that tryndamere?!"
Me - "I did, didn't care"
5th player -  :ye_gods:
Me -  :awesome_for_real:
5th player -  :uhrr:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on October 18, 2011, 08:04:26 AM
cool story bro


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on October 18, 2011, 08:22:26 AM
%50 of all LoL deaths = "It's cool, I can get him"

other %50 = "Wonder what's in this bush..."


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ice Cream Emperor on October 18, 2011, 06:56:49 PM

Well, I am getting really good at destroying everything with Renekton and then losing anyways. The other day I was 7/1/8 after 15 minutes and my team was just bad enough to lose anyways; I just played a game where I went 5/0/0 top in the first like 10 minutes against Kat and Yi. I literally drove Kat out of lane and into mid. But meanwhile bot was feeding Twitch because nobody buys pink wards ever, even after dying six times in a row.

I switched bot and we were still going to stomp them until our Amumu had some sort of RL emergency and went afk for just long enough for the other team to get Baron twice and stomp half our base. Meanwhile I am spending money I could be spending on carry items on Oracles because nobody else will, and every team fight is basically 'will they focus me down in time or will I hurt them enough that my team can clean them up'.

I guess I just need to figure out how to carry harder. Switching/ganking bottom earlier probably would have been wise, but given that I was practically freefarming top I was reluctant to leave before getting the tower down.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on October 18, 2011, 07:43:24 PM
I'm convinced most people playing this game think the objective is just to fight the other team.  Its like, people are playing fucking team death match.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Viin on October 18, 2011, 08:22:23 PM
I'm convinced most people playing this game think the objective is just to fight the other team.  Its like, people are playing fucking team death match.

I agree. I *finally* had a good SR match last night, where the team was focused on winning not kills. I ended up with 12/3/15 or something silly like that with Jax - and not one person complained about me "kill stealing". They even set me up for a couple of ambushes! The opposing team put up an OK fight but didn't coordinate as well as we did.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Xuri on October 18, 2011, 10:16:36 PM
But if you focus on winning the games early, then the fun ends too soon! :why_so_serious: I'm weird that way though. I play to not lose, as opposed to everyone else who play to win - and if they can't win they give up. I find it equally fun to play one game that lasts 55 minutes as two games that last 20 each.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on October 18, 2011, 10:33:43 PM
But if you focus on winning the games early, then the fun ends too soon! :why_so_serious: I'm weird that way though. I play to not lose, as opposed to everyone else who play to win - and if they can't win they give up. I find it equally fun to play one game that lasts 55 minutes as two games that last 20 each.

I'm actually saying you shouldn't play to win early.  If you are playing smart you are building up a bunch of little advantages that then build to huge advantages by the end.  People seem to think they can win the game in the first 10 minutes and then end up just running off and getting killed because they are playing so aggressively.  When the mid-game hits, everyone is eager to initiate the team fight instead of waiting until the positioning is best, and so forth.   People have no patience to play smart.  I'm not amazing at this game, but at least I don't don't play stupid.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on October 18, 2011, 11:05:28 PM
Boring. Your not a man if your not at the enemy nexus in 25 minutes. Super passive players just get rick rolled by anyone with a pair of balls, that's really all hotshotgg does, he simply harasses and starts fights when the opponent is whimpering behind creeps or a tower. His team just makes sure they are right behind him when he tards in 1v4.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on October 19, 2011, 07:35:33 AM
You have totally not watched any recent CLG games.

Hotshot on his preferred Nidalee is possibly the most passive competitive player for the first 30 minutes. He just farms and farms and farms. Essentially nothing will get him out of lane: they're taking dragon? Teamfight in mid? Farm top. Teamfight in top? Farm mid.

I mean, the strat will sometimes pay off, because late game, he's chucking spears that are doing half-health, and with lich bane, he basically 3-shotted an inhibitor. But he uses his wonderful skills as an escape artist not to gank, but just to farm and push and CS.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on October 19, 2011, 09:06:26 AM
He doesnt end matches in 20 minutes, but he is still far more likely to single handly start fights when the other team isnt expectong it. He may be a giant puss for 30 minutes, but he is far more agressive than most players are comfortable with. I remember one game  he was farming with jax, 30 unimportant minutes later he strolls up the middle of the map, heads for 4 players holding mid, leaps on one guy who back peddles closer to his tower but comes to a.full stop just short of being on top of his other teammates.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on October 19, 2011, 09:36:01 AM
Been playing sona a lot lately and I've found playing your lane very aggressively with her is the wY to go. Constant harassing while you teammate farms can really deprive your lane opponents


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on October 19, 2011, 10:27:34 AM
Been playing sona a lot lately and I've found playing your lane very aggressively with her is the wY to go. Constant harassing while you teammate farms can really deprive your lane opponents
Just wait till u lane with someone who has no idea what you"re doing.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on October 19, 2011, 10:42:14 AM
After mostly playing melee characters for the past two weeks, I've gotten really horrible with ranged.   Yikes.  Had my first 10 death game as Annie and was like 9/10/10 in a win.  Granted, this was a win where we got significantly out killed/assisted, yet had them on the defensive the entire match.  Our Yi and Udyr liked to dive really hard, so most team fights began with them dead and the enemy team focusing me hard.    Still, where they were satisfied with holding down their base, we were killing towers and inhibs and then we ended up acing them and sealing it.

Seems like I need to focus on a role and stick to it, since I don't play a billion games a day. But quite often I'll get into the character select, think for a second, and our team is already instalocked with 4 melee DPS.  I'd just feel like a dick not taking a ranged at that point.  Although I've found that being the lone ranged means you eat a lot of backdoor deaths.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on October 19, 2011, 10:51:15 AM
After mostly playing melee characters for the past two weeks, I've gotten really horrible with ranged.   Yikes.  Had my first 10 death game as Annie and was like 9/10/10 in a win.  Granted, this was a win where we got significantly out killed/assisted, yet had them on the defensive the entire match.  Our Yi and Udyr liked to dive really hard, so most team fights began with them dead and the enemy team focusing me hard.    Still, where they were satisfied with holding down their base, we were killing towers and inhibs and then we ended up acing them and sealing it.

Seems like I need to focus on a role and stick to it, since I don't play a billion games a day. But quite often I'll get into the character select, think for a second, and our team is already instalocked with 4 melee DPS.  I'd just feel like a dick not taking a ranged at that point.  Although I've found that being the lone ranged means you eat a lot of backdoor deaths.

I've been trying to like Melee, but I feel like in my shitty newb games ranged carries just dominate so hard that I'm doing my team a disservice if I don't play Ashe or Vayne.    For melee I have Alistar (who I play when I'm playing with a friend), Tryndamere (which I play rarely, but kind of like), Jax (who I'm still getting used to).  I also suck hard with mages like Annie.  I've actually done pretty well with Morgana and Sona, but it feels like when I play support I end up never having a player worth supporting.  Also, no one wants to solo  mid, so if I play a ranged carry I'm pretty much allowed free farming mid by my team every game, which is also fun.

Also, I've had a similar problem where when I do decide I want to try some melee to improve at it, there are already like a Master Yi, Tryn and something else on the team already, so the team needs ranged, and I'm better at it to begin with, so I never get better, heh.

Is it good to specialize in this fashion and be good with a few ranged carries, or is it better to plug in a bunch of roles?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on October 19, 2011, 10:52:55 AM
Been playing sona a lot lately and I've found playing your lane very aggressively with her is the wY to go. Constant harassing while you teammate farms can really deprive your lane opponents
Just wait till u lane with someone who has no idea what you"re doing.

Oh dear god I have, the worst thing about it is telling people "No, take ALL the minions, seriously"


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on October 19, 2011, 11:05:28 AM
Been playing sona a lot lately and I've found playing your lane very aggressively with her is the wY to go. Constant harassing while you teammate farms can really deprive your lane opponents
Just wait till u lane with someone who has no idea what you"re doing.

Oh dear god I have, the worst thing about it is telling people "No, take ALL the minions, seriously"

If I was paired with you, I'd squee.  If I ever get paired with a support, most of them just push the lane and auto attack creeps.  But it's rare that I do, I'd guess that 50-75% of the games my level don't even feature a support character of any kind.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on October 19, 2011, 11:39:27 AM
I will totally 0CS support you Rasix.  :heart:

Jungle WW update: 6-0.  I got paired with somebody who took WW/Smite before I could click it, told him so goodnaturedly, picked Irelia.

Queue dodge. He's not there, so it's WW on WW, and we're doing some light fun trash talk over all. So we invade and steal his blue, and then when he comes looking for my golems second trip around, vaporized. I had my wriggles before he had madreds. All lulz from there on.

Speaking of lulz, who wants to try out the Blitzstar lane? It looks hilarious.




Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on October 21, 2011, 09:19:36 AM
Lost a game of the new Dominion last night. I didn't really notice the changes. I was playing with Kayle on a team that was a gaggle of crack-addled monkeys. We started the game with 3 fucking people all running to the bottom to take the first point. 3 fucking people to take the bottom point. I mean, I don't even know how to process something so fucking stupid. I take the closest top point and our Talon immediately goes towards the windmill. He can't take it solo, of course, because he's facing up against a Yi and something else. Our team spent the entire game running around like goddamn headless chickens. We controlled the top 3 points at one moment in the game, but most of the time we were lucky to control two points and struggling to maintain that. I don't think I ever had three people on my team fighting with me, at most it was two people. The Talon seemed semi-sentient, the rest were just fuckawful stupid.

Luckily, this was after a game of SR where I played Kayle. I started out well soloing mid-lane against an Irelia, but towards mid game, I started feeding her pretty bad. But by late game, I was fucking unstoppable. I think I had a 4 or 5 kill streak IN THE ENEMY BASE while I had less than 1/4 health. I think I started kill-stealing our Ammu because he'd initiate and then I'd start whaling on someone with my Q and E active, pop my W or R to stay alive and suddenly, shit was just dead. The team wasn't great, except for the Ammu, but they weren't morons either.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on October 21, 2011, 10:50:54 AM
It's never kill stealing when you are a carry. Support types and tanks are supposed to let you get last hit on a champ if it isn't an intense situation. Amumu really doesn't need that gold, he can still bandage/ult the enemy team. Carries need items to let them beast people.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Dark_MadMax on October 21, 2011, 11:02:20 AM
It's never kill stealing when you are a carry. Support types and tanks are supposed to let you get last hit on a champ if it isn't an intense situation. Amumu really doesn't need that gold, he can still bandage/ult the enemy team. Carries need items to let them beast people.

Eff this. If carry cant kill people on his own  he is shit and doesnt deserves it anyways. btw amumu with rabbadons is scary as fck.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on October 21, 2011, 11:29:11 AM
We're talking about the middle of crazy ass team fights around the enemy base with asstons of minions, and all of us at least level 16 or higher. I don't think the Ammu was serious about it - he wasn't a dick. And frankly, I wouldn't have given a fuck anyway. At the stage it happened, there's no way I was going to be able to hold off on last hitting something since at times I could barely see what I was targeting.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Mosesandstick on October 21, 2011, 12:31:13 PM
Most of the time you shouldn't care who gets the kill. Getting as many assists as possible is the optimal way of earning money, and an assist earns a good fraction of the money that killing would've gotten instead. It's kill securing, not stealing.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: jakonovski on October 21, 2011, 12:45:18 PM
I can't tell any difference between old Dominion and the new one. All I know is that AP Poppy is still an awesome killing machine. People don't expect tower dives in Dom.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on October 21, 2011, 01:15:46 PM
It's never kill stealing when you are a carry. Support types and tanks are supposed to let you get last hit on a champ if it isn't an intense situation. Amumu really doesn't need that gold, he can still bandage/ult the enemy team. Carries need items to let them beast people.

Eff this. If carry cant kill people on his own  he is shit and doesnt deserves it anyways. btw amumu with rabbadons is scary as fck.


You're a fuckin' retard.  And kids, please don't build Rabbadon's Amumu.

So let's say I'm Annie....I'm ganking with a Taric built for 0 CS...Taric should not, in any fucking way, try to get the last hit on a champ. That's fucking your carry, and your team. What am I saying? You probably don't understand the concept of 0 CS builds....and even carries for that matter.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: jakonovski on October 21, 2011, 01:37:25 PM


You're a fuckin' retard. 

Man, LoL really builds up those social skills!


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Dark_MadMax on October 21, 2011, 01:54:02 PM


You're a fuckin' retard.  And kids, please don't build Rabbadon's Amumu.

LoL - best community. EVAH!

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So let's say I'm Annie....I'm ganking with a Taric built for 0 CS...Taric should not, in any fucking way, try to get the last hit on a champ. That's fucking your carry, and your team. What am I saying? You probably don't understand the concept of 0 CS builds....and even carries for that matter.


Yeah I dont.  Happy now?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on October 21, 2011, 02:02:09 PM
It's never kill stealing when you are a carry. Support types and tanks are supposed to let you get last hit on a champ if it isn't an intense situation. Amumu really doesn't need that gold, he can still bandage/ult the enemy team. Carries need items to let them beast people.

Eff this. If carry cant kill people on his own  he is shit and doesnt deserves it anyways. btw amumu with rabbadons is scary as fck.


You're a fuckin' retard.  And kids, please don't build Rabbadon's Amumu.

So let's say I'm Annie....I'm ganking with a Taric built for 0 CS...Taric should not, in any fucking way, try to get the last hit on a champ. That's fucking your carry, and your team. What am I saying? You probably don't understand the concept of 0 CS builds....and even carries for that matter.

Kill > no kill

optimally you let your carry get the killing blow on all champs but that's in a perfect world.   


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on October 21, 2011, 02:04:33 PM
Yeah, that's not happening. I'm almost positive I will never be good enough (nor give enough of a shit) to worry about NOT killing a champ when I have the opportunity. If I can get the kill, I do. It's a dead champ. Fuck your kill scores.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on October 21, 2011, 02:15:01 PM
I've seen so many people get away with a sliver of life, I just want the target dead.  Still, if I've got someone dead to rights on my carry and someone else jumps in for the kill?  Yah, I'll be a little annoyed.  On Cho/Singed? Not at all.  Although with Cho, I will not pass up the nom nom nom kill.

I've had issues with Irelia where I'm completely owning but just getting assists because someone ganks the last hit.  Prevents me a little from getting over my gear hurdle.  Of course, that's mostly a first world problem and those games I'm usually going to win anyways.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on October 21, 2011, 02:46:44 PM

Kill > no kill

optimally you let your carry get the killing blow on all champs but that's in a perfect world.   

And there are situations, like the example I listed, where that's the case. Where someone is caught dead to rights. I almost always, as a jungler, try to let the mid carry finish fuckers off. If it's questionable at all, I'm full on kill mode. I also always hand my blue buff (after the first) to the AP carry. It wins them lanes and nets your team kills.

Kills pay WAY better than assists. I used to not truly understand the importance of CS. I spent too much time roaming when I shoulda been raking in cash. Even if you don't agree with the more passive style of pro guys, I have learned there are sometimes you just can't help that dude in mid that overextended. Don't bother running down there and handing them another kill. Help yourself. Get paid. And if you are support, help your carries get paid.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on October 21, 2011, 03:05:11 PM
It's never kill stealing when you are a carry. Support types and tanks are supposed to let you get last hit on a champ if it isn't an intense situation. Amumu really doesn't need that gold, he can still bandage/ult the enemy team. Carries need items to let them beast people.

Eff this. If carry cant kill people on his own  he is shit and doesnt deserves it anyways. btw amumu with rabbadons is scary as fck.


You're a fuckin' retard.  And kids, please don't build Rabbadon's Amumu.

So let's say I'm Annie....I'm ganking with a Taric built for 0 CS...Taric should not, in any fucking way, try to get the last hit on a champ. That's fucking your carry, and your team. What am I saying? You probably don't understand the concept of 0 CS builds....and even carries for that matter.

Your elo must be as high as your nose. For one we are talking about solo que. Two we are not talking about the static farm fest of high level douchery. Fact is harrassing and team fights happen far more often than the gank orianted play of the 0 CS game. In that enviorment, anyone getting the kill is better than no one getting the kill because "fights" of any kind are usually not planned or coordinated enough to ensure your carry always gets the kill, let alone for it to be handed to your ashe on a silver platter.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on October 21, 2011, 05:12:27 PM
In a big messy team fight you usually just want to kill people as fast as possible and whoever gets the kill gets it. If you are chasing someone down or ganking and they are taost it's good to try to let someone who needs it get it. For example if you are Sona and you ult someone who has 10% hp there's generally no reason to Q them when your carry can hit them once to finish them.

This stuff does mattter. If you are in a bottom lane as Vayne and Sona your Vayne getting two kills is way way better than your Sona getting two kills.

Recently I played with a couple different Ali players who saved their abilities for the finishing blow. Not only does that suck because fed a support Ali with a couple kills doesn't get much stronger but saving his skills for kills means he isn't using them to protect carries, bonk a squishy into our team, etc.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on October 22, 2011, 07:01:41 AM
9/10 if your support is getting kills, your carries are already pretty damn fed to begin with.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on October 22, 2011, 07:18:33 AM
Not true. Sona for example can put out a lot of burst early game, more than many carries.

Sona hitting someone with a Q and then her Power Chord can do 30%+ damage at early levels. As Vayne in that same amount of time you can get at best a Condemn into the wall and an auto attack for maybe a little more damage and more likely just a roll into a single auto-attack for much less. Similarly Ali hitting someone with a Q, an auto-attack and a W at level 2 is not going to do much less damage than a Corki landing a Q and an auto-attack and some E hits.

A lot of carries don't have highly damaging skills and rely on auto-attacks for damage and at low levels with not many items that damage is low. Which is why those early kills matter so much, the faster you can get some significant items that faster you start rolling.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on October 22, 2011, 07:38:57 AM
Coming from a person who actually plays taric, karma, soraka and sona and plays them as aggressively as possible, the only way I don't feed my lanning partner kills is if they miss click on a creep or facing the opposite direction when the enemy is still alive with a sliver of health left. Generally no matter how kill oriented I am, i find it impossible not to end a game with 12-20 assist and maybe 3 kills if lucky during a team fight.  So i don't know what support champs you running with, but anyone with a rune page can easily scrub kills set up by way played support champions.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Strazos on October 22, 2011, 02:02:47 PM
Been trying, and failing, to make some broken lane combos with Vayne and Riven. I decided I wanted to win a game, so...:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on October 22, 2011, 02:43:35 PM
People just do not fucking get Dominion do they? I'm on a team that's doing pretty well, playing Ryze. We are up something like 153 to 17 with 3 points controlled. I say to the team "Just hold 3" and am completely ignored. The rest of the team starts hunting ganks, and proceeds to go down from 3 towers to 2. We're down to 53 to 17 when I figure out that the top point is ripe for taking. So without any help, I head towards it while the rest of the retards go looking for kills padding. This puts me 1v1 against a goddamn Fiddlesticks, who has killed me numerous times in the game. I lose this fight and we probably lose the game, but somehow, I manage to cap him with 1/8 health left and take the point, ensuring our victory.

What's so fucking hard about hold 3 points when you're up that far? People are fucking idiots.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on October 23, 2011, 12:57:22 AM
OK.  This community is fucking wretched at times.  Jesus christ.

I had an off game and holy hell, pro Shaco who dives into 4 of them keeps giving me shit.  I should just use the ignore function the first time one of those idiots pipes up.

edit: Actually, anytime I'm playing a champ I'm not great on.. I think everyone goes on ignore. Better for my blood pressure that way.  Funny though, the Shaco gives me shit when no one was positive, and I killed my lane to the point where my opponent was switched out and I had the most CS of anyone.  /wtf

And to gripe some more, it seems like every other game some team gets a Xerath that just feeds the entire time. When you're 1/7, perhaps it's time to stop complaining you didn't get enough CS.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ice Cream Emperor on October 23, 2011, 02:20:40 AM

My Achilles heel in terms of enjoying this game is people with unusual characters in their name, making it impossible to easily ignore them without looking up alt-codes.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on October 23, 2011, 02:55:06 AM
So I decided to play ranked, which is usually against my goal of taking the game as unserious as possible, but meh why not ranked? With the reset I can finally get my pro gaming fix right? Wrong. The first two games I try seriously, I pick soraka and attempt to carry my team to victory by making sure my laning partner is fed. Both games result in a loss despite early game dominance. Loses that would have been easily avoided if my team had a clue and ended the game instead of wasting all the farm i gave them and avoiding team fights to the point where one miss placed ally champions results in a steam rolled gg nexus lose. Not wishing to continue this trend I say "fuck it" and refuse to take the game seriously again, instead falling back on my trusty JUNGLE Twisted Fate.

Players were screaming at champ select, had 20 que dodges once they realized I was dead serious. Couldn't stop laughing. I think that alone made up for being trolled out of easy wins when I'm actually trying to win. Finally getting a game it ends in 30 minutes my win and with some of the people who dodged me on the other team. Laughed. Got apologies two pages long from my teammates. Made friends with a guy who figured out what i was doing. Funny stuff. Next game dual que, this went not so smoothly, had an enemy fiddle who seemed to do the right thing at the worst possible time. The game felt like a slow crawl to a lose, until they all moved bottom (a fact we noticed thanks to my new jarven buddy with his pro wards) and I ulted top with my new buddy chogath and BackDoored all the way to the nexus, while pro jarven rallied the rest of the team to block all attempts to blue pill. One of the best quotes from the game was "Never Seen a Back Door like that in a Ranked Game". Everyone was calling the game epic by the end, well except the losing team which have devolved into the typical "trolling, feeding, blah blah" rage cycle.  

The moral is if your taking the game seriously your doing it wrong. League of Legends was nicknamed LoL in the beta for a reason.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on October 23, 2011, 06:31:16 AM

My Achilles heel in terms of enjoying this game is people with unusual characters in their name, making it impossible to easily ignore them without looking up alt-codes.

In game just hold tab and click on the word balloon to the far right of their name to ignore them.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on October 23, 2011, 07:26:13 PM
I think I might be done solo queuing.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on October 23, 2011, 08:00:30 PM
Trynd and Yi are just about at the same level of insta-queue dodging for me these days.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Megrim on October 23, 2011, 08:14:51 PM
akjslksg;aflk; double bt


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on October 23, 2011, 08:56:02 PM
akjslksg;aflk; double bt

? Sorry, I guess I'm newb? Shrugs, it was super late game, the build I was following had literally nothing left to buy, so I just bought another Bloodthirster,


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Megrim on October 23, 2011, 10:21:09 PM
A Banshee's or something would be a better idea. Against that team, Thornmail would have been good as well.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on October 24, 2011, 02:09:25 AM
Just had game where a Nunu and Ashe died 35 times between them.  The lines on them were 2/19/2 and 3/16/9 respectively.  We won, but only because it was a 4 on 5.  The Nunu really didn't count though as a teammate.  He'd just sit in front of the Soraka, make a funny face, and die (even had a skin for Nunu).  I had to take over his lane, but still, he'd just run down the middle and die. He spent more than 11 minutes dead, same with Ashe but she fed their Annie hard.  Ohh, and our Annie was afk through about 30% of the game.  VERY ODD.  Noob game while on work PC, which had the keyboard and mouse stop working sporadically throughout the game.  

Overall, I played very passively and just used the time to farm my Q with Nasus and get used to playing him.  Late game I was just melting everyone and had a GA/FON so I was unkillable.  Annie would run up, hit me, and be dismayed that I wasn't screaming in pain.  Still had a rather MEH line (3/2/5), but killed 4 turrets, played a lot of D, pushed lanes, etc.  Nasus seems fun, but I think would end up ineffective if under-farmed on the Q.  It's still nice to have a slow at your disposal and lane pushing skill.  Solid kit, and in the style of character I favor.

edit: Tried Ashe. LOL.  I just completely can't play ranged anymore.  I just get lost.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Dark_MadMax on October 24, 2011, 09:50:10 AM
I had stupid silly long game (58 minutes or so) last night.  We traded barons couple of times but it was going nowhere. Had full build as gp with 6 k to spare.  So I thought - heck why no, Ill try those 400g potions. So I sold my wriggles bought and drank all 3 potions+ oracle (just to see wards) , bought 2nd IE ( probably not best choice but I already had black cleaver+TF) . And by jeebus I got quadra kill in first team fight. Will not neglect potions now!   26k gold farmed at the end of this game.

But I still think the game needs separate items slots for potions+wards. In those long games always run out of room...

In other game faced morgana +fiddle, both  with zhonya. God this combo is annoying - morgana flashes in, zhonya ,ult, fiddle flashes in, ult + zhonya. We are fcked! We still won but only cause their udyr was running around in pheonix spamming chat "I am a superman".


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on October 24, 2011, 09:50:57 AM
I decided I wanted to try the Jungling Yi last night based sort of on this build:

Pro as Heck Guide to Jungling Master Yi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hPU9Ru1ftw&feature=feedlik)

I let my team know I wanted to try Jungling and the Kassadin who took mid lane immediately said please don't, since Janna was top lane by herself. Janna shot back with "Nah, I got it, I can solo lane this." I told the Janna if she needed help, just holler and went on. Died to the golems first time because I didn't pop my health potion, but it was before the fights really began so I didn't mind too much. I'm only level 15 so didn't really have jungling runes but was working with some AD runes. The jungling started a little better so by the time I was 4 or 5, Janna asked me to take the lane while she went and bought shit. I did, facing off against an Ashe and a horrible Udyr. I laned for a bit, then went back to the jungling, even helping the Kass mid lane with a Fiddlesticks (who was also a pretty bad player - I think he ended up with 3 kills and low CS). Instead of taking 3 Zeals, I took one, found I needed a mana regen item, and once I'd gotten that, went for a Sunfire Cape. I died more than I wanted, but by the end, I was just owning two champs at a time, underneath turrets and surviving. The movement speed buffs from berzerker boots and the zeal was just goddamn crazy. I ended up with 9/9/15 or some such, and we won handily. The other team was mostly terrible, though their Ashe was decent. Our Kass and Janna were goddamn pro, though. Janna ended up with more kills than me, and the Kass had like 15/3/10 or some crazy shit.

I really liked that build of Yi, even if I don't jungle. Those movement speed/AS buffs were just crazy.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on October 24, 2011, 10:24:55 AM
You don't need to sell items to drink potions.  With a full build when you buy potions you just auto-drink them instead of going into your inv.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Chimpy on October 24, 2011, 10:47:36 AM
You don't need to sell items to drink potions.  With a full build when you buy potions you just auto-drink them instead of going into your inv.

You have to buy them after you respawn though.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on October 24, 2011, 10:51:26 AM
A Banshee's or something would be a better idea. Against that team, Thornmail would have been good as well.

Thanks. Sometimes I get zeroed in on damage dealing and forget that defensive items can still be really useful.  Learnin Learnin Learnin.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Dark_MadMax on October 24, 2011, 11:25:57 AM
You don't need to sell items to drink potions.  With a full build when you buy potions you just auto-drink them instead of going into your inv.

Wow a noob I am still! Mucho thanks for tip!  Now if I only had free ward slot now!


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on October 24, 2011, 11:27:53 AM
A Banshee's or something would be a better idea. Against that team, Thornmail would have been good as well.

Thanks. Sometimes I get zeroed in on damage dealing and forget that defensive items can still be really useful.  Learnin Learnin Learnin.

A banshee's will often save you a "stun lands, everyone dogpiles on you" type of death.   I typically play tanky dps, so 2-3 slots for me (not counting boots) is always some sort of defensive response to what the other team is doing.  


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on October 24, 2011, 01:10:25 PM
A Banshee's or something would be a better idea. Against that team, Thornmail would have been good as well.

Must have been a 50 minute game, he died what 4 times? While good advice, it doens't applie applicably to why he lost. He lost at champ select and his team mates just snowballed the situation downward by there choice in items.


The reason he lost was Jax and Jarven, running around with 3.5k health while the rest of his team barely scrubbed 2k health, not even counting differences in armor and magic resistance. You had no tank, and they had off tanks and a sona. The rest of your team evaporated every time you engage in a fight involving jax or jarven and it only got worse by the end game. I feel sad for your lose but them the breaks.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on October 24, 2011, 06:02:15 PM
God, why haven't I played GP in like weeks?  I just finished mopping the floor with a team as him.  Maybe my hidden ELO was low enough to get put back with the baddies. Been having a dreadful run of bad teams and worse losses.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on October 24, 2011, 07:54:05 PM
Just start jungling. My Warwick is now like 16-3. As Hoax said, as long as your team is semi-competent. a jungler helps immensely.

Bought Udyr with IP though...he's a lot trickier. The rhythm of stacking stances  takes some skill I don't have yet.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Strazos on October 24, 2011, 08:05:47 PM
Bought Udyr with IP though

Noooooooooooooooo.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ice Cream Emperor on October 24, 2011, 08:24:57 PM

I ruined my 7 game Renekton winning streak (which followed an 8-game Renekton losing streak -- stupid team games) by trying out Xerath and getting my ass kicked mid while staring intently at my inscrutable skill buttons. Even at level 16 games seem to be basically determined by which side has more smurfs.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on October 24, 2011, 09:06:50 PM
Bought Udyr with IP though

Noooooooooooooooo.

  :uhrr:  He's only 3150! He's my first IP bought champ...ever! (I socked the rest into about 30k of runes) I just wanted to try him out and didn't feel like waiting till he went on sale.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on October 24, 2011, 09:18:10 PM
Still on the fence about buying something magey.  A friend of mine plays Brand and he looks quite fun to play, but I don't feel like selling out 975 RP for him :-/. 


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on October 24, 2011, 09:25:03 PM
I like fiddle, he seems to be a good starter mage since he's not very squishy.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on October 24, 2011, 09:26:57 PM
Just start jungling. My Warwick is now like 16-3. As Hoax said, as long as your team is semi-competent. a jungler helps immensely.

Bought Udyr with IP though...he's a lot trickier. The rhythm of stacking stances  takes some skill I don't have yet.


I frikkin' love Udyr. Hit me up and I'll give ya some pointers. Are you thinking tiger or phoenix? I started out Tiger, and at lower levels is probably best (very strong ganks) but I have a tanky phoenix build that is rough business and super fast jungler clearer. Might be even better if other team has no jungler...cook down the entire forest.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Megrim on October 24, 2011, 10:43:44 PM
Still on the fence about buying something magey.  A friend of mine plays Brand and he looks quite fun to play, but I don't feel like selling out 975 RP for him :-/. 

Caster-wise both Brand and Annie are good solid picks. Brand has a little bit more flexibility in his play, while Annie is mostly: are all my spells up? If yes, then PRESS BUTTAN!11`

If you have quick fingers and a good sense of space, I'd recommend giving Cassiopeia a shot, as her damage output is ridiculously high, but you need good timing and a sense of when to back off and when to really go in for the kill. Otherwise I'd say some of the other (roughly speaking) 'tier 1' mage picks are Morgana, Ryze, Lux and Anivia. Of the four Lux and Morgana tend to orient themselves more towards supporting and set-up roles, while both Ryze and Anivia are very good at just outright killing things.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on October 25, 2011, 01:05:57 AM
Morgana also gets banned in every.single.draft


fuuuuuuuck

youuuuuuuuu


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on October 25, 2011, 07:11:36 AM
Well, been kinda burnt out on SR for a bit so tried dominion.

I ran Karthus and man...he is sick. #1 and victories in both game.

AOE slow, AOE capture disrupt, AOE melt spell, AOE triple kill spell. Oh wait, I died. Good luck taking the point! I also run improved revive/ghost on him so even when you do finally kill me IM COMING BACK QUICK and BUFFED (well, twice a game but I find it is very useful, especially that first windmill fight). If anyone cares it's just a standard rush RoA, rush Rabaddons, then I get Will of the Ancients or rylai's or w/e. I stay quite stocked with health and mana pots, after most fights I have very little hp/mana and between the pots and the packs I am semi ready for the next fight.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on October 25, 2011, 07:19:32 AM
Morgana also gets banned in every.single.draft


fuuuuuuuck

youuuuuuuuu

Good to know, even though I don't tend to play Draft.   Though I will probably try ranked eventually.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on October 25, 2011, 08:33:19 AM
Standard bans I see these days:

Morgana
Akali
Singed
Lee Sin
Gangplank


Occasional Graves/Talon/Brand/Amumu/Fiddle/Udyr

Just an FYI...


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on October 25, 2011, 09:32:05 AM
Bought Udyr with IP though

Noooooooooooooooo.

Wait, what's wrong with buying champs with IP?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Chimpy on October 25, 2011, 09:33:17 AM
I think AP champs are actually turning out to be better for Dominion than the tanky melee champs now. As long as the people who play them know how to use them, of course.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on October 25, 2011, 09:52:37 AM
Bought Udyr with IP though

Noooooooooooooooo.

Wait, what's wrong with buying champs with IP?

I think the idea is that Runes cost IP and can't be purchased with RP, so you should save your IP for those.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on October 25, 2011, 09:56:10 AM
Heh, well since I can't buy Tier 3 runes now and Tier 2 runes are a waste of IP, I don't mind spending IP on champs. After all, if I want more runes, then I just play more games, and if I need a lot more, I can buy boosts with money too.

BTW, did anyone else get a 10 win IP boost buff? I bought a 4 win boost the other day, it ran out and suddenly a 10 winner just showed up.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Chimpy on October 25, 2011, 09:56:53 AM
Everyone got a 10win boost for the Golden Joystick Award.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Dark_MadMax on October 25, 2011, 10:13:23 AM
Played yesterday pretty horrible game as jungle trynd. Normally I am an oookkk trynd player and I started with couple of ganks before level 6. But our lux fed 5 kills by same timeframe and I started raging just making stupid mistakes.Then eEnemy team melted me at every encounter in 2 sec flat. And I had both  cleanse and sash.  Our sion was damn epic and ashe was competent but me,lux and gp blew it (me and lux were something like 2 /16, gp was non factor at all).  They had 40 kill lead but our sion backdored their top inhib and for a while it looked like we had chance. But they finally baroned and finished it off . Maybe trynd is useless....- felt so helpless with his melee and being constantly cced. (morg binding , exhaust, graves smokescreen, brand stun) -just could not get any dps on target whatsoever and dead in record time



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Nightblade on October 25, 2011, 10:27:59 AM
I got bitched at all game as a warwick despite going 11 / 1 / 14 and winning the game.

Early in the game nidalee over extends top and gets ganked, bot pair complains about her. Next, I go bot to try and gank (at 4) but miss, bot team complains.  Annie dies mid, you get the picture.

Later in the game the top nidalee does really well, annie isn't that great but gets off some helpful stuns and starting ganking the crap out of everyone and get pretty fed. After Ult-ganking a (really  bad) ashe in mid, I notice on bot galio is overextended and low.  I go down to try and help, turn off my scent and appear behind galio (then turning it back on). Galio runs off and puts his shield on, the janna Im helping auto attacks galio and his health somehow gets pretty high again. I auto attack and claw him a few times for the kill JUST as janna gets killed. Im then told "WTF WTF warwick ULT ULT ULT" to which I replied. "My ult was down, I just ganked mid ***". Which is followed by a  brief moment of silence and then "Fucking warwick sucks". (2/0/4 at this point).



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on October 25, 2011, 10:34:32 AM
I started raging just making stupid mistakes


Here's your problem.  I listen to smooth jazz while playing solo queue.  Crises averted.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on October 25, 2011, 10:35:23 AM
Played yesterday pretty horrible game as jungle trynd. Normally I am an oookkk trynd player and I started with couple of ganks before level 6. But our lux fed 5 kills by same timeframe and I started raging just making stupid mistakes.Then eEnemy team melted me at every encounter in 2 sec flat. And I had both  cleanse and sash.  Our sion was damn epic and ashe was competent but me,lux and gp blew it (me and lux were something like 2 /16, gp was non factor at all).  They had 40 kill lead but our sion backdored their top inhib and for a while it looked like we had chance. But they finally baroned and finished it off . Maybe trynd is useless....- felt so helpless with his melee and being constantly cced. (morg binding , exhaust, graves smokescreen, brand stun) -just could not get any dps on target whatsoever and dead in record time


From my experience, Tryn is one of the nastiest late game champs. Huge crits and lifesteal, that ult - but you shouldn't be first one in. Basically in that setup, I would hang back and wait for the ashe initiation arrow and then swing in for the rape. Also, Sion stun counts.  Hell, Lux's root would work. Sounds more like a case of them just being too fed to overcome, or poor focus fire by you guys.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on October 25, 2011, 07:07:34 PM
Hoax put it well recently on Vent in my opinion, you should play Tryn like he doesn't have an ult.  You don't dive in and ult, you don't bait or start fights with your ult, you play like a normal melee dps and use your ult only when needed.  I've seen so many bad fights initiated by Tryndamere players who think the right play is just to spin into the other team and pop ult right away.  Even a really fed Tryn can struggle against the "brusier" teams that you see so much now, you can only really go nuts against an all squishy team that doesn't have good escapes and stuns.

I've heard more than once that Tryn is a viable solo top but I've never really seen it yet.  I've done well as it a few times, but usually felt like I was just stomping an inferior player and getting fed, not winning an even match.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on October 29, 2011, 01:13:06 AM
So... Twitch? WTF? I just got my ass handed to me repeatedly by a very good Twitch player. I fed him like a goddamn gourmet chef. I was playing Katarina, and got faced off against that little rat bastard in mid. He was 4th level before I even knew it. By the time the game was over, he was able to kill me in less than 3 seconds, repeatedly. I died like 23 times with only 5 kills. It didn't help that we had other champs that were better suited to solo mid but wouldn't take mid. I finally switched off to the bottom lane and got some kills, but it was godawful. He was able to burst damage like 2k on me, even with like 86 armor and 96 magic resist. Is this fucker just overpowered or was it a really good build?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on October 29, 2011, 01:27:15 AM
Your spatial/map awareness is probably the worst part of your game.  A Twitch is really going to exploit that.  He's going to pop out of stealth, have a huge attack speed buff, throw a lot of poison on you, then just E and blow it up.  I haven't really played a good one yet at this level.  Most are pretty squishy at the start and then just manageable in the late game.  Hard to kill though with that stealth. You pretty much have to explode him or treat it like Kassadin.

On a positive note, I'm carrying pretty hard as GP.  Even in losses I'm pretty solidly positive, except in the case of a total cluster fuck.  Armor + Pots.  Wriggles.  Boots (situational).  Warmogs.  Atmas.  Triforce. Whatever.  Treating me pretty well.  If we're already absurdly tanky, I'll chuck the atmogs to the back of the queue and build like a pure AD carry.

Had a game as Singed where my early game was pretty bad, and we were getting wrecked.  Team seemed pretty awful, until all of the sudden they started feeding the Talon.  Then while I ran around and was annoying, he just started blowing people up hard. Guy was the only one our team that had a positive K/D and pretty much vaporized anyone in seconds.  I should have just played my tankplank and we would have steam rolled from the start, but they wanted a "real tank".  Had a nice toss where I chucked a Mord into the center of Talon's ulti.   :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on October 29, 2011, 03:14:52 PM
Your spatial/map awareness is probably the worst part of your game.

Of that there is no doubt.  :grin:

I want to try Twitch out now. I had played against one before and absolutely wrecked him, but this guy obviously knew what he was doing. Even when I saw him coming it was just ugly. I don't think I've ever seen Katarina die so goddamn fast to ONE champ.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Arinon on October 31, 2011, 11:07:39 PM
What the hell is up with Shaco?  I played maybe 8-9 games tonight and I think all but two had a jungle Shaco on one or both sides.  He hasn't even been changed yet right?  Hard to tell because the level 18-20 games I'm in mean anyone jungling fucks the team over.

Man I hate junglers right now.  Either 3-4 levels under the whole team, feeding, or tunnel-vision jungling to keep up and contributing nothing.  In all my games I've only had one Udyr pull it off well. 


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ice Cream Emperor on October 31, 2011, 11:25:47 PM

I can't remember a game where having a jungler (vs. a team without one) didn't result in my team winning, and I'm at the same level as you. Oh sample bias, who will untangle your mysteries!


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on October 31, 2011, 11:30:20 PM

I can't remember a game where having a jungler (vs. a team without one) didn't result in my team winning, and I'm at the same level as you. Oh sample bias, who will untangle your mysteries!

Are you playing draft or blind pick?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on November 01, 2011, 07:18:53 AM
Having been an under 30 jungler for a while now, I feel like the questions are:

1) Can your solo top handle a 1v2? If they're going to complain or get stupid and start feeding, then jungling is bad.
2) Is your jungler runed up enough/have basic clear/build knowledge to do their jungle? If you take a difficult to get rolling jungle, and then don't have your stuff in place, then that's how you end up four levels behind?
3) Are they good enough to know how to (not) do a gank with the low levels of coordination in pub stuff?

Especially in a one jungler situation, where you have two whoie jungles and will never run out of farm, you've got to make sure you're not just wasting time with ganks when you could be levelling up.

But if you answer all three of those yes, then I feel like it's a big plus, even if you don't make a big early game impact. 3 levels of solo lane (plus undoubtedly, the jungler team should be picking up 80-90% of dragons) is just such a big deal when the first team fights start rolling around.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on November 01, 2011, 09:00:21 AM
Especially in a one jungler situation, where you have two whoie jungles and will never run out of farm, you've got to make sure you're not just wasting time with ganks when you could be levelling up.

Ah, but then you can run into the trap that you aren't helping your lanes enough and your 1v2 top loses lane.  Not losing your top lane is more important than getting 1 or 2 more levels then you would have normaly.  The one jungler situation tends to really suck, I hate playing it personaly.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on November 01, 2011, 10:27:43 AM

But if you answer all three of those yes, then I feel like it's a big plus, even if you don't make a big early game impact. 3 levels of solo lane (plus undoubtedly, the jungler team should be picking up 80-90% of dragons) is just such a big deal when the first team fights start rolling around.

I'm of two minds about it myself.  I personally love playing solo top when we've got a jungler that knows what they are doing, but it also seems like there are a lot of teams that lack a player or character that can really solo top effectively.    Most of the time it seems teams have such little coordination (Im around level 20), that adding in  jungler has the potential just to jack things up even further.  But when it works, MAN does it work.  Then again, I'm usually pretty happy just to get a team that doesn't have an AFK for a feeder, so my standards can't be too high.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on November 01, 2011, 10:46:37 AM
Yeah. I do not jungle unless I've got somebody who wants to solo top, and is playing a character who has a chance of still getting some farm 1v2. Otherwise, I lane it up or queue dodge.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on November 01, 2011, 11:33:39 AM
I've had good and bad results with my pre-20 jungle, more good than bad. But I always make sure to tell the team I'm jungling so they can prepare for it. The amount of damage a decently equipped Yi can put out late game is sick. The problems I run into are the mid-level game when the ganking/team fights start. If I get too involved with team fights and we start losing them, my leveling stops completely and I can't get to that sick damage output level.

I have been having the shittiest run of bad luck the last week. I don't know if it's the fact that I've ticked over to level 17 and the players I'm getting matched up with are much better than the opposition I was playing or what, but it doesn't seem to matter who I pick, I'm getting facerolled. Last night, I picked Katarina, went bot lane with our Trynd and just got absolutely OWNED by a Shaco/Twisted Fate pairing. I can't help but think the two of them were friends with some kind of voice comm for coordination, because they were just in tandem. I'd run into the bush nearest our turret and get fucking hammered by two jack in the boxes sitting right at the edge of the bush, and even when I didn't, I'd get focused and killed way too easy. That kind of stuff has been happening to me repeatedly the last 5 or 6 games I've played.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on November 01, 2011, 11:38:22 AM
Yeah. I do not jungle unless I've got somebody who wants to solo top, and is playing a character who has a chance of still getting some farm 1v2. Otherwise, I lane it up or queue dodge.

I had a jungler (a terrible, terrible GP) that stuck me solo top v. Lux and Anivia as either Jax or Irelia (can't remember which).  What a dick.  They could dive me at any time and there was just about nothing I could do about it.  They seemed like a dual queue pair as well, they were pretty good at zoning me out.

Finally broke my current losing streak last night by playing Annie, since GP was instalocked.  I played OK.  Solo mid v. a possibly mentally retarded Tristana named "PuffyVulva".  She just sat there and auto attacked the creeps.  Her gank attempts were running up to the bushes and then rocket jumping onto me and comboing her little heart out.  Tibbers put a stop to that nonsense and the GP at top had like a sixth sense for when I was wailing on her and managed to come in for some really nice ganks.  I was something like 8/5/20 (got chucked a few times by Singed and we had no tankiness at all)  and won my lane hard, downing my tower before anyone else. The GP carried hard at like 22/5/14.  He was a bit of a dick though, every death was "my fucking team this/that" or a "lol whuts oracles" when someone would die to the Shaco.  My favorite was when he was getting owned hard by the Singed and bitching that no one was helping him out ("how long do I have to tank before someone helps me") when I was still in the middle of a fight and our team was busy knocking down the last two towers and taking out the Nexus

As I inch toward 20, I'm seeing a lot more people just griping hard and generally misbehaving every time their team isn't filled with superstars.  Starting to resemble the chatter in the Streams I watch.  


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ice Cream Emperor on November 01, 2011, 11:53:33 AM
Are you playing draft or blind pick?

Blind pick. I don't own enough champions to play draft (at least, last time I tried.)

On the other hand I mostly play Renekton, so a jungler means I get to solo top.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ice Cream Emperor on November 01, 2011, 12:01:45 PM
As I inch toward 20, I'm seeing a lot more people just griping hard and generally misbehaving every time their team isn't filled with superstars.  Starting to resemble the chatter in the Streams I watch.  

It really is impressive how entitled people act when it comes to teammates. Like they personally did something to deserve the better team, or no bad players, or whatever. No, my friend, you just joined a random online game full of random strangers, just like the rest of us.

My favourite is people who are clearly smurfs whining about their team being bad.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on November 01, 2011, 12:15:54 PM
As I inch toward 20, I'm seeing a lot more people just griping hard and generally misbehaving every time their team isn't filled with superstars.  Starting to resemble the chatter in the Streams I watch.  

It really is impressive how entitled people act when it comes to teammates. Like they personally did something to deserve the better team, or no bad players, or whatever. No, my friend, you just joined a random online game full of random strangers, just like the rest of us.

My favourite is people who are clearly smurfs whining about their team being bad.

Pretty much. The game is full of entitled ass wipes and its gotten worse since Riot likes to blow the esport horn.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on November 01, 2011, 12:17:51 PM
As I inch toward 20, I'm seeing a lot more people just griping hard and generally misbehaving every time their team isn't filled with superstars.  Starting to resemble the chatter in the Streams I watch. 

It really is impressive how entitled people act when it comes to teammates. Like they personally did something to deserve the better team, or no bad players, or whatever. No, my friend, you just joined a random online game full of random strangers, just like the rest of us.

My favourite is people who are clearly smurfs whining about their team being bad.

Those smurfs still never ward.  

Only time I ever get mildly annoyed is when I get paired in lane with someone that won't stop diving and dying.  It's just so goddamn annoying when someone throws away three plus deaths to something they have no business engaging.  Even then I usually keep it to something politely asking them what they're doing or to please play more cautiously.  Had a Sion in my lane that'd just run in, face check right in front of their tower, die, and do it all over again.  "Sorry, talking to my GF." Dude disco's after his 7th death by level 9.  Thanks, guy. A fed Irelia is so much fun to deal with.

Often I have to remind our superstar that some people on the team are legit noobs and to just deal with it.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Dark_MadMax on November 01, 2011, 08:07:10 PM
I been wathching a lot of high elo streams recently. One one hand they definetely helped me to step up my game. On the other hand when you get to play blind pick you just wanna facepalm and choke yourself .Draft is a bit better but still rarely you see anything approaching coordinated  levels


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on November 02, 2011, 10:05:32 AM
Has anyone been having severe lag problems the last 24 hours or so? I played two games last night where at least 3-4 of my deaths were the direct result of being lagged to shit trying to escape from a situation I could have escaped from had my mouse clicks been every remotely followed.

I also played Vladimir and he seems pretty decent early game but mid to late game, he felt kind of overmatched.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on November 02, 2011, 10:12:05 AM
I've been liking Nocturne way too much...so I am leaving the realm of the camera lockers.

I find that having space not as a snap-to, but as the camera lock button is actually kind of the setup that works for me: makes it easy to lock it on for team fights.

That said, it was embarrassing to fail to recalibrate for not having Warwick's heal, and end up dying to a dragon. My team hated me the whole game after that, even after we won and I ended up 9/4.





Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on November 05, 2011, 02:04:00 AM
Best way to relieve some steam when you've just been kicking ass and still lose two in a row?  Singed + Anivia duo lane.   :why_so_serious:  Trolled the shit out a Xin/Garen tandem who were obvious dual queued.   Frozen heart/ninja tabi/banshee's/thornmail.

Earlier two games were bullshit.  21/9/24 and most deaths were during the last parts of the match.  In one game I was 6/0/x at the start but my team managed to feed a Shaco even harder than that.  Gragas/Cait went 12/27.   :uhrr:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on November 08, 2011, 01:02:18 AM
Sometimes Gragas games are a bit frustrating.  I miss one barrel and my team goes fucking nuts.  Apparently I had to hit the Twitch, instead of the giant clump of them, and because I didn't do that, I'm "so fucking dumb".   Never mind that the barrel hit just about everyone would have allowed them to kill the Karthus that was killing them way harder than the Twitch.  "You hit the tank".  They didn't have a tank, and I didn't see the Twitch.

First time I've put my entire team on ignore. "You're on ignore.  Enjoy the game."  The not so surprising part was that they were all negative and all lost their lanes badly.  They all did nothing but feed and didn't CS for shit. They all got ridiculously low on HP all the time with a goddamn Karthus on the enemy team.  I was the only one did any ganks, and they managed to screw those up pretty hard.  

Then I ate some oranges and it was OK.  Gangplank is my slumpbuster.  :awesome_for_real:

edit: Gragas is by far the hardest champ I've tried to learn.  Not as straight forward as most I play, but at least I seem to farm with him well and can pull off some decent tosses.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on November 08, 2011, 02:41:28 AM
Gragas has a pretty high skill ceiling. His ult is the kind that can go anywhere from easily winning you the battle to actually helping the enemy team.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on November 08, 2011, 10:01:34 AM
Ohh, yes, I'm well versed in accidentally fucking my own team.  I play Singed from time to time.    Bad flings (like throwing Yi onto your low health lane partner), while hilarious, can have tragic consequences.   

They were underfarmed and feeding.  My barrel wasn't the reason we lost.  Still annoyed to take flack from a 3/7 Akali, 4/10 Trynd, and an 0/7 Galio.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on November 08, 2011, 10:31:20 AM
Ohh, yes, I'm well versed in accidentally fucking my own team.  I play Singed from time to time.    Bad flings (like throwing Yi onto your low health lane partner), while hilarious, can have tragic consequences.   

They were underfarmed and feeding.  My barrel wasn't the reason we lost.  Still annoyed to take flack from a 3/7 Akali, 4/10 Trynd, and an 0/7 Galio.

What really sucks is when you get a really bad headbutt/barrel/whatever because the person flashed at the same time.  But your team still rages that you are a terrible player for doing it.  :heartbreak:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on November 08, 2011, 10:55:59 AM
I accidentally bought Gragas with IP instead of RP the other day when he was on sale. He is a tough one to figure out. I like him, but his strategies do not reveal themselves easily, and I would not be surprised is the whingers bitched at you while sucking wind. It's the same type of shitheads who bitch about Sona being picked.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on November 08, 2011, 12:07:58 PM
Basically you want to use his ult to knock someone squishy into your team or if things go bad knock someone dangerous away. (For example if Fiddle suddenly appears in the middle of your team)


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on November 08, 2011, 12:15:35 PM
It's pretty easy to 1v1 someone early on if it's up.   Poke with q, R behind them, e, q.  Also nice for ganks for when they start to retreat to their tower.   It's a handy ulti.   His E is such a rad ability.  So much mobility with it.

I need to buy some mana regen runes for him as mana's a huge problem early on.  Runes are just so goddamn expensive.  I blew through all of my saved IP in no time just filling out one AD sheet and a couple AP quints/6 magic pen marks.

edit: I think I might have to take my ultis off smart cast.  I seem to fat finger an R once a game.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on November 08, 2011, 01:05:56 PM
I saw the new free champ rotation, saw that Warwick was on it and decided since he was cheap, I'd try him out. Get into the solo queue, immediately pick Warwick and a few seconds later, lock it in. Guy on my team starts typing "I ww" over and over again, then when I lock, he screams "I WW MOTHERFUCKER." I respond back with "What the...? What are you 12?" He ragequits I think as I'm dropped back to the home screen with a queue dodger. SO Glad I didn't have to play the game with that fucking idiot.

The game I did get into with WW was a good one. Got stuck mid until I saw I was up against a Caitlyn, so asked our Ashe if she would switch with me and she did graciously enough. Got ganked a few times early by a decent Kog'Maw/Lux combo down there, but by the end, I was just tearing through shit. Had a few deaths to me just wanting to either kill a tower or kill someone under a tower, ended with 15/11/8 I think.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: pxib on November 08, 2011, 01:21:16 PM
My favorite "support" is somebody with long range holds like Lux or Morgana (and Janna, to a lesser extent), or hefty speed buffs like Sivir or Zilean. The more conventional support characters like Sona and Soraka tend to foster overconfidence in anybody who hasn't got a healthy hunk of caution and patience, and those two traits are distressingly rare.

More reliable to depend upon overconfidence on the enemy team than to worry about it on my own.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on November 08, 2011, 01:27:40 PM
Sona has a speed buff. Just sayin ;)

The reason I like playing Sona more than a support Zilean is the heal. Early game can still poke, but I can usually keep a good AD carry in lane and racking up CS way better than a Zil could.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: jakonovski on November 08, 2011, 03:03:56 PM
My favourite "support" is Blitzcrank. He's just so funny and nobody plays him anymore and thus don't usually dodge the grab that well.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on November 08, 2011, 03:10:50 PM
My favourite "support" is Blitzcrank. He's just so funny and nobody plays him anymore and thus don't usually dodge the grab that well.



My friend has been playing him lately with actually a fair amount of success.  The ganks that are possible by me playing someone kind of bursty, him playing blitzcrank, and pulling into turret ranges is hilarious and actually surprisingly effective at our level.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Viin on November 08, 2011, 03:33:11 PM
I f'ing hate playing against blitzcrank. That stupid pull always gets me in trouble.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: jakonovski on November 08, 2011, 05:59:51 PM
I just had some really good games as Shyvana (Dominion and SR jungle). Generally she's still way too dependent on the enemy obliging her by not kiting too much, but I think I found the (SR) build that works for me:

http://leaguecraft.com/builder/Shyvana/?items=111,117,15,62,11,104&level=18

I basically went tanky with W as the main damage dealer. AS did not work out for me as she usually doesn't get that many attacks in small engagements, and in team fights the default AS is good enough to keep her W's duration at maximum.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on November 09, 2011, 01:33:27 AM
Line of the night from an 0/10 Caitlyn: "Vote yes on the next surrender or I'll start feeding"  o_O

Every Cait I've played with recently has been completely worthless.   Only one that finished positive had Shen saving her ass all of the time and we were able to carry her. 


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on November 09, 2011, 09:02:54 AM
Line of the night from an 0/10 Caitlyn: "Vote yes on the next surrender or I'll start feeding"  o_O

Every Cait I've played with recently has been completely worthless.   Only one that finished positive had Shen saving her ass all of the time and we were able to carry her. 

Was your cait allowed mid? was he allowed bottom with a support champion? if either is a no, cue feeding.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on November 09, 2011, 09:03:51 AM
I don't understand how you can have 0 kills as Cait or Ashe. You don't have to be anywhere close to get kills. You can hang on the periphery and wait for some foolhardy twat like me to wander in with 1/4 health and ping someone to death from just inside FOW range. You have to suck really hard to do that.

I tried Teemo last night. 5 kills, lots of deaths. I'm pretty sure I was doing it wrong but at least I got some experience with him. I want to try Olaf next.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: jakonovski on November 09, 2011, 09:39:18 AM
Teemo is IMO best used as an AP caster, because he's hella squishy and has short autoattack range. Start out with Rylai's and CDR and then go nuts getting more AP. Plant shrooms satellites everywhere and try to herd your team to fight so the enemy gets caught by them.  



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on November 09, 2011, 09:56:06 AM
Line of the night from an 0/10 Caitlyn: "Vote yes on the next surrender or I'll start feeding"  o_O

Every Cait I've played with recently has been completely worthless.   Only one that finished positive had Shen saving her ass all of the time and we were able to carry her. 

Was your cait allowed mid? was he allowed bottom with a support champion? if either is a no, cue feeding.

Top with Lux.  They picked it.  I think they were dual queued.  I offered mid, but she declined.  They were up against a Dinger and Panth.  Bot lane got destroyed too.  I'm not sure how a GP manages to die 14 times in a game.  Eat some goddamn oranges.

Things at this level don't match up well to the current meta game. 


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on November 09, 2011, 09:59:58 AM
Wait, Cait was paired up with LUX against a melee like Panth and got 0 kills? Did she at least get any assists? That pair should be able to do something since neither has to get close and you know Panth is going to be leaping in - where he should be immediately snared by Lux while Cait runs back and plinks the shit out of him. The mind wobbles.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on November 10, 2011, 11:46:10 AM
Pant leaps on cait, heimer stuns cait with grenade, dead cait. Two squish in a high damage double stun lane, yeah you didnt expect them to feed because?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on November 10, 2011, 12:14:56 PM
She had a partner?  She was told it would be better to switch? Someone has to take the lane?  You're assuming people might play a little more cautiously once they die a couple times?

Lux didn't feed (comparatively) and actually had a few kills.  I imagine most were trades when Cait bought it, however.  Cait ran around like a idiot most of the time.  Low health? I'll go see what's in that bush.   Team's going back? I'll get in another autoattack on that Panth!  

I'm guessing that Cait isn't going to work at my level where you don't have support, players are largely terrible, and where self preservation takes a back seat to autoattacking creeps.  Only way I have any hope that a Caitlyn will be decent?  They have a skin.

edit (to add a story, less Cait gripe).
2 nights ago had an Olaf go 2/12 last night and basically throw the game.  The clueless Leona didn't help.  Her strategy was to run up to anything and basically hit every skill she had in random order.  I'm not sure how she didn't die more, she never seemed to have a clue where she was.  The Olaf.. man... just run up everything and facecheck the shit out of it.  Warmogs and a giant's belt don't save you from trying to gank a full health champ surrounded by 4 other enemy champs.   I was 11/3 on GP, our annie was like 10/5 and Talon was something like 14/7.  Bugged the hell out of me to lose that one.

My Gragas is steadily improving.  His poke is just unreal at times.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: jakonovski on November 10, 2011, 02:03:56 PM
Oh god, just had a game with a douchebag who did nothing but buy shoes and then ragequit. He kept whining the whole time too.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on November 10, 2011, 02:15:20 PM
The fact that she thinks a lux/cait lane will work out well means she doesn't have a clue lolz. And no i don't think at any level of play beyond 1400 elo where "die once hug tower" computes to a valid strategy. of course in that elo "losing slowly despite not being 1/11/4" is perfectly possible because your zoned and losing towers, but meh, who cares? A feeder isn't the end of the game, its the team reaction to a low skilled player that is. Unless its trolling (lolz buy every boot in the game lolz lolz) you can manage. Especially at the level of play where a gangplank goes x/14/x.

I'm guessing the oalf and leona game was mostly dew to them going "i'm going to taaaaaaaank" and your team going "meh your reeeeeeeetarded" and neither side budging on when and where is right to initiate.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on November 10, 2011, 02:32:52 PM
edit: On second thought, not really worth discussing anymore.   Take my assessments at face value.  People can just be game-wrecking bad pre-30 as I'm sure they can when you're 30 as well.  Is there a hidden elo system (for match making purposes)  in place at all pre-30 or even at 30 if you're not playing ranked?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on November 10, 2011, 03:11:41 PM
Yes, there is a hidden elo system.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Der Helm on November 11, 2011, 06:54:41 AM
Yes, there is a hidden elo system.
I would not call it a "system".  :awesome_for_real:

Basically, after you have won a few games in a row, the matchmaker is going to pair you with more and more unexperienced players or set you up against more and more experienced players until you lose a few games in a row, rince and repeat.  :grin:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on November 11, 2011, 04:07:53 PM
But there is a hidden elo. I believe at some point during beta you could find out what it was by looking at a file on your PC.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Der Helm on November 11, 2011, 04:12:42 PM
But there is a hidden elo.
Call it what you want. Thats how it works.  :grin:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: ezrast on November 11, 2011, 05:10:05 PM
Sounds like ascribing malice to the RNG to me.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on November 11, 2011, 06:26:41 PM
Sounds like ascribing malice to the RNG to me.

Well, we *are* gamers after all, we have a long history of personifying random numbers.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ice Cream Emperor on November 11, 2011, 06:47:43 PM

6 is a really nice guy.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: ezrast on November 11, 2011, 07:43:33 PM
I hear 7 is a cannibal though.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Megrim on November 11, 2011, 08:00:21 PM
Yooooouuuuuu...


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on November 11, 2011, 10:48:38 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/I3r1e.jpg)

I don't even....      :ye_gods:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on November 11, 2011, 10:53:11 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/I3r1e.jpg)

I don't even....      :ye_gods:
How long did your game last?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on November 11, 2011, 11:11:50 PM
How long did your game last?

surrender at 20.  We had something like 10 deaths in the first 6 minutes, and 20 by the first 10, and then it just got silly. I tried til the end just because what the hell, but it was clear when  Katarina and Yi were dying over and over that we were hosed, very early.   


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on November 12, 2011, 12:40:35 AM
How long did your game last?

surrender at 20.  We had something like 10 deaths in the first 6 minutes, and 20 by the first 10, and then it just got silly. I tried til the end just because what the hell, but it was clear when  Katarina and Yi were dying over and over that we were hosed, very early.   

sorry bro, who was laning where. you guys had a major health bar (relative to the enemies team health, they could lap you in damage taken nearly 3 times) problem with very little in cc to boot, must have been much more painful then it sounds.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on November 12, 2011, 01:23:11 AM

I don't even....      :ye_gods:

Holy fucking shit, that is awful.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: jakonovski on November 12, 2011, 02:05:24 AM
Teemo must've had the astronaut skin.  :ye_gods:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: K9 on November 12, 2011, 05:56:12 AM
The fuck, how is that even possible?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on November 12, 2011, 06:56:34 AM
How long did your game last?

surrender at 20.  We had something like 10 deaths in the first 6 minutes, and 20 by the first 10, and then it just got silly. I tried til the end just because what the hell, but it was clear when  Katarina and Yi were dying over and over that we were hosed, very early.   

sorry bro, who was laning where. you guys had a major health bar (relative to the enemies team health, they could lap you in damage taken nearly 3 times) problem with very little in cc to boot, must have been much more painful then it sounds.

Yeah, the Veigar had a tank selected then switch to Veigar just as the time expired for character selection.  It was just a mess from the beginning. Looking back Katarina might have been intentionally feeding, but I don't think Yi was.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on November 12, 2011, 12:22:18 PM
A Yi should not even be close to having a score like that without intentionally feeding. You have to be SUPER BAD to get a score like that as Yi especially with that buildout mixed with that CS. The Kat probably was feeding - there's no reason I can fathom for her first item to be a Zeal. She doesn't need AS, she needs AP, or AD if you don't really understand her yet. I tried doing an AS build with her once and it made no sense.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on November 12, 2011, 12:31:58 PM
Riven has more last hits then the entire other team combined.  She deserves her score.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on November 12, 2011, 01:27:09 PM
Riven has more last hits then the entire other team combined.  She deserves her score.  :awesome_for_real:

It really spiraled out of control quickly because Yi and Katarina were in the same lane v. Riven and Teemo, so both of them got fed really really early, and it of course snowballed.  Never seen anything like it in that short a time frame, sure I've seen fed people take over games, but not to this degree.  Oh well.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ice Cream Emperor on November 12, 2011, 02:06:26 PM

It turns out lots of people just aren't very good at the game. All this speculation about intentional feeding and Harsh Judgment gets a bit much.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Der Helm on November 13, 2011, 12:06:03 AM

It turns out lots of people just aren't very good at the game. All this speculation about intentional feeding and Harsh Judgment gets a bit much.
But why are they always on my team ?  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ice Cream Emperor on November 13, 2011, 01:20:28 AM

They gotta be on someone's team!

But more srsly, observer bias in online game players seems to suggest to them that when they dominate their lane it is because they are awesome, whereas when one of their teammates is dominated in lane, it is because the teammate sucks.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on November 13, 2011, 02:00:35 AM
I dominated in a lane with Annie against a Garen and Graves combo tonight. But I really think it was because the Garen was really bad, super aggressive early on and we had 5 kills to their 1 within the first 6 minutes. I didn't do bad with the Xin Zhao (had two great games with him in a row) but the Garen really fed me early. The second game I was getting popped early by a LeBlanc/Fiddlesticks combo (though me and the Rammus with me did get Fiddle 3 times early) so had to switch to top lane where I got my groove on.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on November 13, 2011, 07:24:09 AM
I did really well in a lane with two stuns and they had none  :awesome_for_real: Seriously its not magic or feeding, bad laning (i.e being unable to decide who should go where verses who) = lose, whether it be dramatic 1/10 being the average kdr of the team in the first 10 minutes, or slow burning "lose farm, lose xp, 2 uncontested dragons, gg" the lion share of loses usually come from that single(or multiple) sources of failure. Oh and baaaaaaaaaaaaaaad team composition. The unholy trinity of elo hell is -> bad team composition, bad laning (i.e tryndemere, gangplank lane...), and bad attitudes ("zomg first blood fucking noob" generally doesn't encourage stellar play just saying) are the number one way of losing way before a real troll fucks your game. Hell if you manage to lose a game without the last part being a factor your no longer in elo hell, you just got stomped by a smarter player(s).


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on November 14, 2011, 01:11:40 AM
RNG's been kind me to lately.  On a pretty good tear after a pretty nasty losing streak.  All Gragas/GP.  8 wins, 1 loss and that one loss I played pretty well in.  I think I'm past being embarrassing with Gragas and now just being "a little derpy at times, but otherwise, solid".    Ran up to a team fight and saw the entire enemy team clumped in the river near top lane.  Barrel + cask and we ended up with an ace (I got 3 of the kills).   Had a really nice combo earlier in the game when I got a Jax low next to his tower.  Tossed a barrel at his feet, but didn't detonate it, he backed up, I dove the tower, and ulti'd him back onto the barrel.   :awesome_for_real:  Boots, double dorans, then rush deathcap is just really strong.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on November 14, 2011, 09:52:16 AM
I want to have barrels of fun..with gargas.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on November 14, 2011, 10:07:09 AM
Gragas Esq. + Gentlemen chogath = classy lane.   


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on November 14, 2011, 12:16:32 PM
On a classy note, is there any counterpick to solo top Cho? Any reasonably good Cho seems just a complete bear to play against.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on November 14, 2011, 12:21:28 PM
Not sure.   I usually play as him., not against him. :grin:

Seriously though, hes just really solid.  Something ranged is probably better than melee.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on November 14, 2011, 12:25:47 PM
I've played against him as Singed and done fine. Nasus is probably solid.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on November 14, 2011, 01:42:02 PM
Now I can start raiding...




Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on November 14, 2011, 01:51:36 PM
Your w/l is soooo much better than mine.  

edit: Yay, back to even. 88/88.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on November 14, 2011, 03:10:34 PM
On a classy note, is there any counterpick to solo top Cho? Any reasonably good Cho seems just a complete bear to play against.



Chogath can be harassed out of the lane without much difficulty. Unless your playing a cho who is intent on harassing you out of the lane, which very few chogaths players do. The trick to cho? Squishy little beast starting at level 1-6, he gets too close and he is an exhaust away from feeding. The problem with cho, he only doesn't need items. So you can zone him all you want, he doesn't need a quarter of the gold you do to start snowballing (assuming runes and masteries are proper). He also can passively farm with rupter even if your zoning him.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Mosesandstick on November 14, 2011, 04:08:21 PM
:awesome_for_real: Because I'm juvenile:

(http://i.imgur.com/EW8XX.jpg)

Cho farms better than most champions, which means harassing him when he can't use his skills is often the best choice, in addition to the weak early game DL mentioned. Or you can pick a hero that scales better than he does and farm all game, though that doesn't stop the Cho from using his skills to harass you, especially vorpal spikes. Really, the best bet is to get a jungle gank, he has poor escapes.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on November 14, 2011, 06:21:09 PM
I just used my newfound lvl 30 summoner powers to go judge some cases.

Geez, you jerks make it easy on us. Two times, I was like: "This guy is a little jerky, but maybe nothing worth...oh, great, you just started making racist jokes about mexicans. Thanks!"


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Der Helm on November 14, 2011, 07:58:21 PM
I just used my newfound lvl 30 summoner powers to go judge some cases.

Geez, you jerks make it easy on us. Two times, I was like: "This guy is a little jerky, but maybe nothing worth...oh, great, you just started making racist jokes about mexicans. Thanks!"

THANK YOU SO MUCH for pointing out to me that they already enabled this.  :awesome_for_real: :awesome_for_real: :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on November 14, 2011, 08:17:41 PM
It farms IP faster than playing games!

By the way, my first 10 judgments: all punish.

That said, it seems like all the cases are of people who have at least 3 reported games, so you're getting some real jerks.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Kail on November 14, 2011, 08:27:09 PM
By the way, my first 10 judgments: all punish.

I did the max number of cases for the first few days, and gave out a punish every time.  Towards the end of it I was wondering if I was being too harsh and I tried to let up, but holy fuck, guys with ten, fifteen game long rap sheets being complete dicks in all of them were inhabiting the classy end of the spectrum.  I had one from a guy claiming in chat he was a Riot employee and going to permaban everyone who killed him before spending the rest of the game spewing racist slurs and whining at his teammates, for three games.

It was kind of depressing getting that little "your judgements have been validated on two whole cases" e-mail.  Like, what happened to the others?  Are people seriously looking at this stuff and going "meh, sure there's ten games full of this guy screaming about how Hitler was right, but he seems like a good guy, so I'll let it slide this time.  Just don't do it ten more times, or there'll be trouble!"


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Der Helm on November 14, 2011, 10:20:12 PM
By the way, my first 10 judgments: all punish.
Mine too.  :heart:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ice Cream Emperor on November 15, 2011, 06:45:24 AM
Are people seriously looking at this stuff and going "meh, sure there's ten games full of this guy screaming about how Hitler was right, but he seems like a good guy, so I'll let it slide this time.  Just don't do it ten more times, or there'll be trouble!"

I'm sure it's more like "I see no problem with this completely normal, community-tolerated behaviour -- he's just raging, it's cool!"

I'm glad somebody reads my reports, though!


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on November 15, 2011, 08:09:09 AM
Well, finally on a decent ranked run. Even won a game we were 4 on 5 after level 3. Dude just disappeared and never returned, luckily we played well, focused, and got them to start fighting amongst themselves. Other than that, been playing non-stop Phoenix Udyr and Sona (stupid nerf...ugh) and playing damn well.

This patch is going to mix shit up big time. Interested to see who gets broken by it.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ice Cream Emperor on November 15, 2011, 09:29:15 AM

I am on an epic losing streak, and have dropped below .500 for the first time in ages. Mostly not my fault, but just had a game as Maokai and played pretty terribly in a 1v2 lane top against GP/Fizz. The game went 70 minutes because the other team just could not figure out how to push our base, despite having two inhibs down for the majority of the game (we had one tower on the nexus for like the last 15 minutes.)


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on November 15, 2011, 09:47:16 AM
Well, finally on a decent ranked run. Even won a game we were 4 on 5 after level 3. Dude just disappeared and never returned, luckily we played well, focused, and got them to start fighting amongst themselves. Other than that, been playing non-stop Phoenix Udyr and Sona (stupid nerf...ugh) and playing damn well.

This patch is going to mix shit up big time. Interested to see who gets broken by it.

Do you have LoLRecorder? Can you record a good phoenix udyr game? I am at best, harmless with him.

Also, the days of 10 mastery slots being enough are so over.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on November 15, 2011, 10:51:01 AM

I am on an epic losing streak, and have dropped below .500 for the first time in ages. Mostly not my fault, but just had a game as Maokai and played pretty terribly in a 1v2 lane top against GP/Fizz. The game went 70 minutes because the other team just could not figure out how to push our base, despite having two inhibs down for the majority of the game (we had one tower on the nexus for like the last 15 minutes.)


I think the problem is you playing Maokai, who is the most poinless champ in the game. I'd rather have a heimdinger...


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on November 15, 2011, 10:51:23 AM
I don't, but I will try to install it tonight. Here is the jist of it:

The masteries are totally different now, but I was 1/12/17 or something like that (Movespeed on Udyr is key due to his kitability)

Movespeed quints, Attack speed reds, dodge yellows, MR/lvl blues

Start with Cloth Armor and 5 HPs. If you have competent team, have them help DPS the wolves for you THEN leash the blue. Most the time, that seems more than the average LoL team can handle so I just get a blue leash. ---- on to wraiths, golems, and red and port home   - skill order RWRE - Buy boots, 2 HP, and a sight ward.

Sometimes if the lane that double golems are at is vulnerable to my gank, I just go for it without bear or boots, just to get them to burn flash. Most the time not.

Phoenix cooks down the jungle, I always end up doing a bit of counter jungling and stealing. My main build order is (maybe was after mastery changes)

Cloth 2 HP

Boots ---2 HP --- Sight Ward

Heart of Gold

Wit's End (this is key, can be swapped with HoG in order if you land a gank or two)

Sunfire Cape

Force of Nature

At this point you are a near unkillable AoE machine, with sub par damage but enough with phoenix procs/SF cape/bear stuns to be useful. DPS soak with your high armor/MR/shield. Turret dive with bear to help secure kills. In general, be an annoying fucker stunning and chasing down everyone. Mid/late game cook down lanes to keep that build going.

If it gets further, build your Randuin's omen and (it never gets this far) Tri-Force.

Also, I try to give my mid all blues buffs after the first.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ice Cream Emperor on November 15, 2011, 11:25:37 AM

Yeah he's pretty underwhelming, but he's fun to play.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on November 16, 2011, 04:37:26 PM
The higher up in level I get, the worse the community gets.  Jesus fucking christ what a bunch of asshats. 


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on November 16, 2011, 04:43:51 PM
The higher up in level I get, the worse the community gets.  Jesus fucking christ what a bunch of asshats.  

I think "The community gets better at level 30 / 1400+ ELO / 1500+ ELO" etc. is just something people tell themselves so they don't get frustrated and quit.  I've watched 2k ELO streams where they still get team-mates who troll them.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: jakonovski on November 16, 2011, 04:49:47 PM
The higher up in level I get, the worse the community gets.  Jesus fucking christ what a bunch of asshats. 

Any players I don't know personally, I consider enemies. Even if they're on the same team.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on November 16, 2011, 05:18:01 PM
The higher up in level I get, the worse the community gets.  Jesus fucking christ what a bunch of asshats.  

I've hit some sort of civil pocket.  But I've been winning lately.  Even my lone loss (in about a week now?) was  not that bad.  I avoided getting pissed off at the useless Shaco in my lane.  Granted it was a nightmare lane as it was me (as GP) and Shaco v. a Blitzcrank and Kog'maw that were both decent players.   Guy just literally did nothing but stand there and occasionally get grabbed.  Should have told him to just go gank other lanes, but I was too busy dodging fists and cowering by my tower.   I don't think I saw him deceive the entire game.  He had a skin too, so you'd expect he'd like.. do something.  Not a big deal and it wasn't that bad of a steamroll (I was getting track towards the end), but we just couldn't get it together as a team and surrendered rather early once we saw we our comp wasn't going to hurt them at all.

Immediately followed that with a semi-epic 1 hour long game.  GP (me), Fiddle, Akali, Shyvana, Brand  (four Koreans and me) v.  Garen, Brand, Fizz, Cho, Sona. Heh, looking at the lolstatistics of the game: the four Koreans on my team queued together and the Sona/Cho/Garen were queued together.  We had a jungler (Fiddle) and they did not.  So, I got bot (wtf) solo lane v. Garen and Fizz.  I got beat the hell down for most of that.  Only died twice in lane, but it wasn't easy.  The Garen was pretty goddamn decent.   Anytime I died they just ran around destroying my team.  The jungler was absolutely useless.  He went 3/17 and all he ever did was crow storm and die hard when they were grouped.   Our top lane got beat up pretty hard too, although Akali did pick up some kills.  So, a bit in, I cede the tower so I can take myself out of that situation and do more roaming/jungle.

Well, I decided to play tank, since it seemed like my team was getting vaporized in lane.  The Garen was snowballing so I had to mostly account for him.  My end build looked like tabi, warmogs,  atmas, fon, triforce and thornmail.  I started off with wriggles but sold that around the time I got my triforce.  The thornmail was complete overkill  (Garen couldn't kill me at the point where I got it) and I probably should have built a banshee's, GA or a damage item. Maybe a maldred's due to the Cho stacking warmogs.  Killing him was an exercise in patience.  

The end result was winning a game where we were 10 kills below them, and other teams probably would have surrendered a lot earlier.  But, they didn't really threaten beyond taking down one inhib turret.  We got our shit together, controlled Baron, dragon, and all jungle buffs.  Won teamfights despite Akali, dragon lady, and Fiddle doing a lot of derpy shit and being very squishy (until very late).  Warded, did better on trades, poked well,  and managed to negate a Garen that went 26/4/X (kind of glad he was their superstar, Garen seems to fade no matter how ridiculously he's fed).   We pushed really well towards the end and just kept the pressure up enough until they couldn't burst us down. The end win moment was great, with Garen chasing me halfway across the map while my team took down the last two towers and nexus behind him.  :awesome_for_real:   I didn't even end up positive, but 4/5/18 felt like carrying in this situation.  




Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Arinon on November 16, 2011, 11:30:00 PM
I still have an ungodly amount of matches decided by a disconnect or leave.  Very demoralizing.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on November 16, 2011, 11:46:51 PM
Been lucky and have mostly avoided that for a while.  But a week ago, it seemed like 50% of my games had at least one early disconnect.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on November 17, 2011, 06:21:24 AM
So in order to test out the judging thing, I didn't judge any more than the initial 10.

The day after, I did get a message which was: "We have affirmed your judgment on...2 of the cases."

But now it's up to 9, so I feel pretty reassured by the process.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on November 17, 2011, 10:18:28 AM
Some Twitch went off on me last night because I interrupted his pentakill.  I'm not sure I can parse out that info and process it while we're rushing to stop a team from doing a desperation Baron.  Plus, barrels... they hit hard.  I don't think it's in my mindset either to just NOT kill someone when I'm playing a non-support.

I found it pretty amusing, but he was actually very upset. Twitch players are an odd bunch. 


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on November 17, 2011, 10:21:03 AM
Eh, when I hear QUADRA KILL I usually just let the Vayne or whatever try for it. I'm not saying I blame you (or him for being salty), but it is the cool thing to do.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on November 17, 2011, 10:23:15 AM
I actually didn't even hear it.  And what's weird is that I got a kill while they still had someone up. Mine might have been the first.  /ssssssssssssshrug


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on November 17, 2011, 10:40:07 AM
Eh, when I hear QUADRA KILL I usually just let the Vayne or whatever try for it. I'm not saying I blame you (or him for being salty), but it is the cool thing to do.

I've gotten grief for kill stealing from time to time , but frankly, I'm much more interesting in 100% getting the kill that stroking someone's epeen.  Yeah, if its our AD carry I'll try to let them get the killing blow because they need the gold a lot, but its seems to me better to definitely get the kill and have them get the gold for the assist that it is to try to let them get the kill shot only to have the guy burn his flash and get away.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on November 17, 2011, 11:20:52 AM
I can safely say I don't envision a time where I one gram of fuck will be given by me over who gets the kill so long as the motherfucker is dead.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on November 17, 2011, 12:40:57 PM
 I think this was already covered, but when going support, it can be important to not ks, especially if there's a bunch of assisters.  You should feel no shame in firing away in any uncertain case, but there are times when summoners are down or it's clear they're not just getting away, and in that case, picking up a kill is kinda bad for your team.

That said, people whine about ks's about 10 times more than necessary.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on November 17, 2011, 01:27:05 PM
I think this was already covered, but when going support, it can be important to not ks, especially if there's a bunch of assisters.  You should feel no shame in firing away in any uncertain case, but there are times when summoners are down or it's clear they're not just getting away, and in that case, picking up a kill is kinda bad for your team.

That said, people whine about ks's about 10 times more than necessary.

This is true, but lets face it, most people are just cranky their KD ratio is going to be a little lower.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on November 17, 2011, 01:27:43 PM
Welp, I've reached level 20 and started the process of getting my runes. I didn't realize level 20 started with new Quints.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Viin on November 19, 2011, 11:19:36 PM
Can I just say, Blitz's reach is just way too fucking long.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on November 22, 2011, 01:48:26 AM
Margalis is a saint for putting up with my first 2 attempts at jungling (with Noct, who I never used as well  :awesome_for_real:). Oy, that was rough.  Plus, I got the nice side affect of his secret elo + level bump.  

Second game was pretty funny.  We were losing badly at first and I was taking shit from our useless Kayle.  To be fair, I was getting caught like a retard over and over and the game went straight to giant blob v. blob before I could get much ganking in. Noct doesn't seem particularly useful pre-6.   Toward the end we started coming ahead in the trades.  Then their Trundle DCs, Marg (LeBlanc) initiates and we roll over them.  We pretty much stayed in their base and won without previously having any inhib turret down.  I even managed to be useful at the end (I think).  Marg carried hard, Nasus was good, bot lane.. EH.  The jungle Trundle was schooling me pretty hard.  

May actually try it some more.  I like the jungling champs, I'm just not the most gankery person around.  Need to work on that.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on November 22, 2011, 08:40:55 AM
I know it may not seem so, but nocturne's ganks are pretty A-class, even pre 6.  You just have to catch an overextended lane, duskbringer, shield if it's important, fear, and done. As it so happens, just as they start realizing they needs wards to protect against you, you're just going to show them exactly how far you can initiate a gank from.

The #1 ganking tip, for all champs, everywhere. Target-ping your gank (and maybe throw in a "coming top") while you're on your way there. Cuts down "Hey, laner, you want to come over here and help?" so much.

I've been doing FOTM Jungle Maokai, and he's fun and powerful (and also makes the wolves + blue super start hella easy). He'll never quite carry you out of a game, but if you've got some good carries on your team already, he protects and peels like nobody's business.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on November 22, 2011, 08:51:14 AM
He'll never quite carry you out of a game

I played with a jungle Maok recently that I'm sure would make you reconsider this statement.  :oh_i_see:  His ganks were really, really good and by mid game he was unstoppable just diving and killing any squishies that got near him.

I'm really tempted to try him and learn him since I've been playing almost 100% jungle lately.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on November 22, 2011, 09:49:22 AM
I played 3 games with Kog'Maw yesterday. Holy shit, is he an amazing carry. I'd played him before but forget just how good he can be (and I've learned things since then). He is the definition of carry - a little easy to kill early on but still even by level 3 or 4, he's not somebody to overextend on. I don't even mind dying because of his kamikaze explosion passive. Even when I didn't get a positive k/d ratio, I still felt like my damage was hugely instrumental in winning the game.

A game I had last night started with someone on my friends' list that I don't even remember adding. I think it might have been someone not from here who added me after a game. I started top lane with a Nocturne who didn't really seem all that good. The guy who invited me was playing Brand mid-lane and somewhere around level 15 he DCed and never came back. We had gotten one turret down by this time but had lost one so I figured we were hosed. Somehow we pulled it together and started ganking though it felt very much like a stalemate. Finally I started ninjaing turrets top, whittling them down just the turrets in the base. Then we started going to town. We took down Baron and started rolling along and they just couldn't stop us, even with the man advantage. We even got the point where the nexus was about 4 hits from dead and retreated to get some more kills. Finally we pushed and killed the nexus to win. I ended up with 10/7/2 which I didn't mind at all because most of my kills were late AFTER we were down a man. Kog really is just a beast with AS gear.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on November 22, 2011, 11:14:22 AM
I know it may not seem so, but nocturne's ganks are pretty A-class, even pre 6.  You just have to catch an overextended lane, duskbringer, shield if it's important, fear, and done. As it so happens, just as they start realizing they needs wards to protect against you, you're just going to show them exactly how far you can initiate a gank from.

The #1 ganking tip, for all champs, everywhere. Target-ping your gank (and maybe throw in a "coming top") while you're on your way there. Cuts down "Hey, laner, you want to come over here and help?" so much.

I'll give that a shot.  Don't know if I'll keep a the jungling.  Taking endless shit from your team because you're the only one that actually is sick of the no-jungler, pre-30 meta and didn't instalock a ranged carry can be a bit infuriating.  I suppose though, that once I get red buff, I could easily gank bot if they haven't died yet.  :awesome_for_real:

Also, somehow I've turned into the "TEAM FIGHT TIME!!! INIT ONTO SQUISHY. GO GO GO GO.     Where the fuck did my team go..  <grey screen>" guy.  This could also be a product of never having a tank around.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on November 22, 2011, 11:18:20 AM
He'll never quite carry you out of a game

I played with a jungle Maok recently that I'm sure would make you reconsider this statement.  :oh_i_see:  His ganks were really, really good and by mid game he was unstoppable just diving and killing any squishies that got near him.

I'm really tempted to try him and learn him since I've been playing almost 100% jungle lately.


Oh, was he building AP? I've been doing pretty tanky builds so far. And you can definitely mess up a squishies day with your combo, for sure.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Bann on November 22, 2011, 01:06:43 PM
Ive spent the last few play sessions trying out jungle Rammus. I know that someone(s?) here play a decent amount of Jungle Rammus, and I'm curious about your item build. I've been following one I found online that is something like Cloth Armor + 5 pots, Heart of Gold, Merc Tread, (those 2 get jumbled around based on how my ganks go) then Guardian Angel, Sunfire, and a Randurian Omen. I feel like I spend way to much of the midgame with a subpar loadout setting up a lategame that I often never end up arriving at.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Mosesandstick on November 22, 2011, 01:24:27 PM
It can often be worth getting a philostone as well depending on how the game is going. I think you might be suffering an issue that is common to most junglers - junglers naturally fall behind on exp and money. There's not much you can do about it except continue to help your laners.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on November 22, 2011, 02:12:34 PM
I think you have to judge a game on how aggressive/crazy it's going to be. How pressured is your top? Does this game seem like a farm fest, or is it going to be over in 25?

Philo stone can work on rammus (especially if you're going ninja tabi, eleisa) But it slows you down.

GA...I'm dubious of that. If they focus you first, you've already won. And if they focus down a GA'd Rammus first? Well, they deserve what's coming.

I look at Aegis and Randuin (or Banshee) as first big items. (Banshee seems weird, but can be a nice way of avoiding getting CC'd on your initiation, and gives good sustain if you get it early enough.)


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on November 22, 2011, 10:02:51 PM
I would go philo stone and build it into Reverie at some point. Powerball + reverie is ridiculous for catching people.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on November 23, 2011, 09:15:01 AM
I like Reverie as much as the next person, but I'd rather my support build it.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on November 23, 2011, 04:00:31 PM
Ive spent the last few play sessions trying out jungle Rammus. I know that someone(s?) here play a decent amount of Jungle Rammus, and I'm curious about your item build. I've been following one I found online that is something like Cloth Armor + 5 pots, Heart of Gold, Merc Tread, (those 2 get jumbled around based on how my ganks go) then Guardian Angel, Sunfire, and a Randurian Omen. I feel like I spend way to much of the midgame with a subpar loadout setting up a lategame that I often never end up arriving at.

I play a fair amount of jungle Rammus, my core build is almost always - Cloth Armor + 5 pot, Boots, Philo Stone, Heart of Gold, Boots 2, Reverie, Omen.

I've been having really, really good luck with Guardian Angel early lately too.  Sunfire and Banshees are pretty common for me as well.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on November 25, 2011, 07:43:43 PM
I'm about ready to quit this game.  I'm finally good enough that I can't fucking stand idiots, and I'm not quite level 30 and I honestly don't know if I have the patience to grind through enough games to get there.  God fucking damn it there are so many people that have the shittiest fucking map awareness.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ice Cream Emperor on November 25, 2011, 08:41:31 PM

You can start playing ranked games before 30 (unless they changed it again?), so unless you really think you need that last quintessence slot or whatever, there's no particular reason to think you're ever going to be in a position to get better teammates than the ones you can get now.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on November 25, 2011, 09:48:55 PM
I'm about ready to quit this game.  I'm finally good enough that I can't fucking stand idiots, and I'm not quite level 30 and I honestly don't know if I have the patience to grind through enough games to get there.  God fucking damn it there are so many people that have the shittiest fucking map awareness.

Play once a day.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on November 25, 2011, 10:22:44 PM
I'm about ready to quit this game.  I'm finally good enough that I can't fucking stand idiots, and I'm not quite level 30 and I honestly don't know if I have the patience to grind through enough games to get there.  God fucking damn it there are so many people that have the shittiest fucking map awareness.

Play once a day.

Hmm, this might be right.  Since I've got the long weekend I've been playing a bunch of games when normally I wouldn't, I wonder if this has to do with my low tolerance.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Arinon on November 25, 2011, 11:51:49 PM
I've cut back to one game a day, or two if I lose the first one.  Working out well.

If I want to try out some new champ I'll start with a bot game as well.  Much lower frustration levels now.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on November 26, 2011, 12:14:12 AM
I only have time for 2 or 3 a day.  Helps keeps the aggravation down.  

My games last week were pretty tough at times and thus I started to lose a bit and my ratios weren't great.  Then this week came and it's back to derpy players and games plagued by trolls, afkers and leaves.   But wins and carrying hard.  I liked two weeks ago when I couldn't lose and I had no idea why.

I have a new strategy for coping with playing crappy.  Pick Ryze, randomly mash buttons, and watch the sparklies fly. Shit, he's even effective on my parents horrible PC.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on November 26, 2011, 07:14:10 AM
*clacks blood-stained pincers*

(http://i.imgur.com/JTFaS.png)

Game before that was only 13-1. I just started with superfast clear (anybody who can do wolves/blue gets a big boost imho), and then started picking on the Warwick majorly. The rest was just slicing people up.

I'd totally buy Skarner this minute, but I'm gonna wait till the remake comes out to judge it.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Arinon on November 26, 2011, 12:33:19 PM
I haven't jumped into the jungle game yet as I want to start with Fiddle and I need a bit more umph to do it justice.  Hoping the changes open it up and I don't have to wait for more dedicated rune slots and mastery points.

Then again I expect everyone and their dog will want to jungle after the changes.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on November 26, 2011, 05:26:10 PM
I like Reverie as much as the next person, but I'd rather my support build it.

Support typically uses Reverie to either run from lost battles or pursue after won ones. Rammus can use it to gank and initiate small battle where often support won't even be around.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on November 27, 2011, 12:47:07 AM
Man, I just took endless shit in a game from yet another psychotic Shaco.  Mainly because I forgot to call MIA when Karthus left lane while I was backing and he killed Shaco (happened in like 5 seconds, so probably faster than I would have typed it anyhow). Then my e hit some creeps (it does that) during a gank, and he went apeshit.  His friend, the laning Rammus, decided to shit talk me after I put Shaco on ignore.  Fun times.  Funny it was in..  

 

They ran out of interesting stuff to stay.  Those guys sure loved to stand in Karthus' AOE.  Shaco's KD only went decent when we were pushing into base, he was mostly KSing my combos.   :awesome_for_real:  Seems like every bad Shaco is immediately on your ass whenever he dies.  IT WAS UR FAULT, RYZE.

edit: Heh, I don't think I've lost with Ryze yet.  Not a huge same size, however.  Maybe 6-8 games.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on November 27, 2011, 03:11:02 PM
Aww, on the way to 14-1, somebody said: "Everytime I've played with you, you've been an awesome jungler."   :heart:

The thing about Skarner, is that if he gets any kills early, he just becomes supertough. Like you don't even have to build super tanky, (I'm doing wriggles/merc/sheen/trinity) because his stats are so naturally good. I spent a good 2 or 3 minutes just bullying people around in their jungle.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on November 28, 2011, 04:44:22 PM
I think I'm going to start queue dodging anyone with a blatantly racist name, they're almost always terrible players.  I almost feel like applying this to player names that advertise how much weed they smoke, but they can be decent from time to time.  Also, dodging any instalock Eves. 


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on November 28, 2011, 05:54:18 PM
I think I'm going to start queue dodging anyone with a blatantly racist name, they're almost always terrible players.  I almost feel like applying this to player names that advertise how much weed they smoke, but they can be decent from time to time.  Also, dodging any instalock Eves. 

Don't forget players with lots of random numbers after their name.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on November 28, 2011, 05:59:51 PM
There will be no one left.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ice Cream Emperor on November 28, 2011, 09:38:36 PM

Much better off turning it into a drinking game instead.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Nightblade on November 29, 2011, 09:07:40 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/Blade111/Smyte.gif)

Game starts, I pick jungle trundle.

Moments later, shaco picks jungle shaco.

hilarity ensues.

I spent most of the match solo topping dropping out every so often to take red. Shaco pretty much just roamed the entire map hurting people and making their life hell.

Turns out, trundle can stay in lane for a long long time, and he last hits easily thanks to his q skill. add the occasional smite gold and I was well farmed by 20 minutes.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on November 29, 2011, 09:27:55 PM
You know how we are always saying the game is biased towards passive play....why the hell is this apparently a secret to people?  I have so many people yell at me for being passive.  Jesus fucking christ, we don't NEED to initiate a fight every fucking time we CAN.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on November 30, 2011, 11:33:54 AM
Karthus is fucking annoying.  So is a 1/15 Garen on your team that has 50 minion kills in a nearly hour long game.  One of the only games I think I've lost where we had a lead in K/D throughout most of the game.  :argh:


edit:

Just had one of those classic "team goes apeshit on you for no reason" games.  Recap of lovely convo below.  It was fun. 

Cass: "Why didn't you ult?"

me: "wasn't up"

Fizz: "It's up right now, we can see it"

me: "nope, it's not up."

Cass: "We see a green dot. You're so fucking bad."

me: "says 22 seconds still, it's not up. I used it on Tryst and Trynd (level 30, 1450 elo in a game with noobs.. heh) before we got owned."

Fizz: "you fucking suck, wu"

me: "k, going on ignore"

Sona: "Why because she's right?"

me: "You guys seriously want to keep going on about this?"

Put the entire team on ignore. It's kind of funny to go full retard on a guy that's staring at his ult NOT BEING UP.

So, I trolled them a little bit (tried a backdoor that had no chance of working). Died. Got a soda.  Built tankier since they were all made of paper.  Solo'd Yi when he tried to backdoor us.  Ran down middle.  Won game.  Yay.  :uhrr:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ashamanchill on December 02, 2011, 06:44:35 PM
I almost feel like applying this to player names that advertise how much weed they smoke

That's a LoL rule to keep if you ask me.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Cadaverine on December 02, 2011, 08:16:56 PM
So, is the community in this game just made up entirely of assholes? 

I've played around with bots, and the game is fun enough, but the idea of putting up with a continuous stream of petulant, foul mouthed man-children doesn't seem very appealing.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on December 02, 2011, 08:29:29 PM
The community is shit.

Just get good with a few guys and then you get to listen at everyone bitching at each other. Find a role or two you like and master it. I've never ignored anyone, but that's just cause I could give a fuck what they think or say.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Chimpy on December 02, 2011, 08:32:01 PM
The community is shit.

Just get good with a few guys and then you get to listen at everyone bitching at each other. Find a role or two you like and master it. I've never ignored anyone, but that's just cause I could give a fuck what they think or say.

You also aren't paying attention to what people say in chat most of the time.  :grin:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on December 02, 2011, 08:33:51 PM
Well, I'd say I get a few games a week that are ruined by bad behavior, and I run anywhere from 15-30 games a week (2-3 a night normally).  I have about 230 games of SR played against people (just 2 co-op) and maybe have less than 20 people on my ignore list.  

Your odds of getting a raging troll on your team are about 33% at my level/hidden elo (lvl 26).  There's a decent chance they won't ruin things.  There's, however, a 100% chance they'll shit on you if you're trying something you're not great at.  In this scenario your team WILL blame you for the loss, which is possibly accurate (big fucking deal, right?).   There's not enough live and let live.

I'm really not a people person; you could even say I'm a bit spergie.  I'm not very competitive either, but SR against people is the way it's meant to be played.  It's a fun enough experience at this level that I can mostly deal with the community.

Hell, the most popular streamer around is a raging, douchebag kid.  He constantly shits on and trolls his teams, yet people still tune in.  So, that's the community for you.  It's nice there's some generally decent folk streaming to counter balance this, but the scene is skewed a bit toward the ragey, socially inept kid.  

Better than HoN's community, I imagine.
  


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Xuri on December 02, 2011, 10:55:59 PM
So, turns out - Garen rocks mid when facing Ryze :awesome_for_real: And also against Nunu solo top. And holds his own against Nasus solo top. And when unsuspecting Teemos run into a bush face first. Same when Annie does so. I don't think I'll ever play another character in LoL from now on :P

DEMAAAAACIA!


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Muffled on December 02, 2011, 11:53:00 PM
How did you ever get close enough to even touch Ryze, or Nunu when Nunu didn't want to be touched?  :|

My experience with Garen was just that he's an underwhelming damage dealer with modest mobility.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: PalmTrees on December 03, 2011, 12:46:33 AM
First time playing in months and months but managed to pull off a nice save with Janaa. Our bear was down to like 15% and retreating from 3 enemies along bot lane. Shielded him, whirlwind. We put some distance and 2 of the 3 gave up but the enemy bear, at like 3/4 health, kept chasing. My bear would stop and fight (gah), then remember he was super low health then run while I was desperately shielding, slowing, whirlwinding trying to keep him alive. Teammates showed up killed the enemy bear and then we had a great push down the bot lane taking down two towers.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ice Cream Emperor on December 03, 2011, 01:07:07 AM

Damn it's like the only thing anybody plays anymore is melee DPS.

Which is frustrating, since I mostly play Renekton. Karthus and Sivir, my new best friends?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on December 03, 2011, 01:10:05 AM
Yes, the LoL community is full of spergy, Tourette's addled cockslapping titmice, convinced of their own elite skills while happily ready to shit upon your lack of skills from their high perch atop Douche Mountain. However, it is 50 billion times better than the Heroes of Newerth community. And I can say that I've had a decent number of games with really friendly, helpful people. Not a 1:1 ratio mind you, but still better than none.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on December 03, 2011, 01:20:49 AM
Man, I played some derpy Gragas tonight.  Nothing like being unable to kill a low HP Nasus because you forgot to ignite and missed both your fat-man charge and barrel.  Luckily Margalis (Trist) carried like a boss, and I did manage to eventually remove my head from my ass. Managed to piss off Singed too when he misinterpreted my helping him as a "go time".  Gragas sans mana was just helping you escape (course, it was Singed, he was going to be fine), angry ADHD kid.

When I'm not playing great, I should probably opt for Ryze. All skillshots and playing like ass makes you feel like a jerk.

edit: Scores weren't bad, but bleh, can play better.




Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on December 03, 2011, 11:14:42 AM
How did you ever get close enough to even touch Ryze, or Nunu when Nunu didn't want to be touched?  :|

My experience with Garen was just that he's an underwhelming damage dealer with modest mobility.

What elo hell do you reside.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Xuri on December 03, 2011, 12:00:16 PM
How did you ever get close enough to even touch Ryze, or Nunu when Nunu didn't want to be touched?  :|

My experience with Garen was just that he's an underwhelming damage dealer with modest mobility.
I play only unranked games :) Also, Flash, Bushes, Deception, Timing.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on December 05, 2011, 03:46:48 PM
Had a game at lunch with a truly execrable player today at lunch. Pop into the queue, pick Twitch and lock in. The team builds around Twisted Fate, Corki, Volibear and Gangplank so I'm thinking great... I won't have to mid with Twitch (I did so last night and got utterly owned by a Teemo). The Corki starts bitching at the Twisted Fate that his spell selection was wrong (dude took heal then switched to clarity). He continued bitching at Fate incessantly as we started the game. When I went bot with Gangplank, he told me to go mid and since no one else was, I figured, why not. That left Gangplank solo bot - which would have been fine but the player down there wasn't really very comfortable with that. As a result, he feeds the Xin Zhao/Morgana combo down there. I find myself mid-laned against a Teemo and think "Goddamnit, a repeat of last night." Only this Teemo wasn't very good and thanks to Corki's help, I killed him 3 times before he finally switched lanes with the Morgana who was terrible with her snare skill shot (she got better).

Meanwhile, the Fate/Volibear combo up top wasn't doing too much better. Corki meanwhile was jungling and helping me gank mid-lane but CONSTANTLY bitching. I don't even know how he played the game as there was always something from him coming in the chat box. He just harangued Fate about his choices, calling him noob, saying he was feeding, etc. Just being a vile little dickshit. And we start losing. Gangplank wants to pack it in, Corki is convinced we've lost and thinks I'm the only competent player on the team (which is HILARIOUS!). And then the racist shit comes out. I kept my mouth shut until then, before finally telling him that bitch whining was bad enough but he needed to stop being a racist twat. By the time all our outer turrets are down, he wants to surrender. But he's pissed off the Fate player so bad, Fate REFUSES to surrender just to spite the guy. Gangplank is whining that he wants to go play Batman until he finally just DC's (I suspect he just ragequit). Finally with only 4 players, Fate's 1 vote can't stop the surrender anymore and I am relieved of having to listen to this shithead anymore. I did report him, though I doubt it'll do shit.

I had a decent game owning some face with Twitch that was utterly ruined by this complete tosspot.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on December 05, 2011, 04:19:55 PM
Had a game at lunch with a truly execrable player today at lunch. Pop into the queue, pick Twitch and lock in. The team builds around Twisted Fate, Corki, Volibear and Gangplank so I'm thinking great... I won't have to mid with Twitch (I did so last night and got utterly owned by a Teemo). The Corki starts bitching at the Twisted Fate that his spell selection was wrong (dude took heal then switched to clarity). He continued bitching at Fate incessantly as we started the game. When I went bot with Gangplank, he told me to go mid and since no one else was, I figured, why not. That left Gangplank solo bot - which would have been fine but the player down there wasn't really very comfortable with that. As a result, he feeds the Xin Zhao/Morgana combo down there. I find myself mid-laned against a Teemo and think "Goddamnit, a repeat of last night." Only this Teemo wasn't very good and thanks to Corki's help, I killed him 3 times before he finally switched lanes with the Morgana who was terrible with her snare skill shot (she got better).

Meanwhile, the Fate/Volibear combo up top wasn't doing too much better. Corki meanwhile was jungling and helping me gank mid-lane but CONSTANTLY bitching. I don't even know how he played the game as there was always something from him coming in the chat box. He just harangued Fate about his choices, calling him noob, saying he was feeding, etc. Just being a vile little dickshit. And we start losing. Gangplank wants to pack it in, Corki is convinced we've lost and thinks I'm the only competent player on the team (which is HILARIOUS!). And then the racist shit comes out. I kept my mouth shut until then, before finally telling him that bitch whining was bad enough but he needed to stop being a racist twat. By the time all our outer turrets are down, he wants to surrender. But he's pissed off the Fate player so bad, Fate REFUSES to surrender just to spite the guy. Gangplank is whining that he wants to go play Batman until he finally just DC's (I suspect he just ragequit). Finally with only 4 players, Fate's 1 vote can't stop the surrender anymore and I am relieved of having to listen to this shithead anymore. I did report him, though I doubt it'll do shit.

I had a decent game owning some face with Twitch that was utterly ruined by this complete tosspot.

I have a rule that I immediately ignore any player who bitches about someone else before the game even starts.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on December 05, 2011, 05:15:53 PM
Just played a game where the only time the Lux, Shaco, and Morgana said something in English it was to insult me or the Gangplank.   It was kind of funny.  Bunch of blocked out Korean text followed by a "stupid monkey".  

1/7 Morg and a 4/8 Lux.  Korean Shaco went 7/6 but didn't gank my lane a single time even thought it was never pushed.  They always ran around face checking brush and dying these ridiculous deaths.  Then out came the insults.  

Constant stream of bad teams.  Early advantages that turn into nothing because typically the worst player on the team has been the AD carry, so we just get worked at the end.  Bleh.

edit: bad AD carry may just be a symptom of bad team play in general.  They focus ours.. but hell if we're going to take out the biggest threat.  And by all means, farm away.  ADFJSKDFJSKLJDSFL I think I might have to smurf tonight to prevent myself from jumping off my roof.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Xuri on December 05, 2011, 05:25:57 PM
I've started pretending all my teammates are just bots in every game I play (works really well in the actual bot-games), so I ignore any and all chat-speak because I know bots can't chat so anything they say must obviously just be my imagination run wild.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ice Cream Emperor on December 05, 2011, 05:45:52 PM

But what if your subconscious is trying to tell you something important, and just using the bots as a conduit for revelation?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ice Cream Emperor on December 05, 2011, 06:33:59 PM
So I'm really not a fan of brutally enforcing the meta, or optimal laning, or dissing hero picks or whatever -- especially not as I grind my account back up to 30 playing non-ranked games. But when your team insists on putting their ad carry (Sivir: me) in the same lane as Heimerdinger, and when I tell them 'okay but when I have crappy cs later and can't carry don't blame me'... I expect them to at least have the kind of basic ape-memory necessary so that when 25 minutes later the Heimer has fed Fizz to the gills and I have 30-40cs less than I would have otherwise (though still more than their Teemo)... maybe they shouldn't blame me for the loss?

Especially when I'm the only one with a positive k/d?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on December 05, 2011, 07:56:56 PM
Reminds me of when I thought I'd be solo top in game as GP and instead I get put down bot with Trist.  

"Hey, it's cool, I'll play support for you."
"Ohh no, I'm not good with Trist yet, how about I support you?"
(Brain registers this as a loss).  

We abused our lane pretty hard, but it ended up not being worth it because we mostly split the CS and their Irelia got plenty of farm being paired with a 0 CS Soraka.

Trist got blamed hard for the loss, when really, her k/d only got bad when paired with our somewhat worthless teammates (who all lost their lanes really hard).  Her lack of comfort with Trist obviously led to some bad positioning and getting caught a few times.  Then after getting shit on by everyone but me, she kind of mentally packed it in and afk farmed the rest of the time.

edit: Heh, I think most of my recent losses (which haven't been much aside from this 4 game slide) have been when I don't get a lane to myself.  Lone exception are a couple semi-recent Ryze losses, but I'm something like 75%-80% win rate with him I'd estimate (since they don't give us real stats, heh).

Yay.  Streak broken.  Singed the slumpbuster.  I forgot how fun he is to play.  Don't care about kills, Trist took all my farm, so just gotta be annoying and tanky as all hell (3/1/27).


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on December 06, 2011, 01:35:43 AM
I did report him, though I doubt it'll do shit.

For what it's worth, the threshold of reports to get into the Tribunal has went way down: I'm seeing a bunch of 1 and 2 case files (before, it used to be mostly 4-7 cases). And apparently, the number of bans before permaban has been lowered too.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ice Cream Emperor on December 06, 2011, 03:06:56 AM

The only thing I still use my original 30 account for is the Tribunal stuff, which I have to say I find quite enjoyable. Except that the captcha they use seems to have like a 35% fail rate.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on December 06, 2011, 06:38:07 AM
Went from 1011 to 1303 in ranked solo que.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on December 06, 2011, 08:59:16 PM
This was such a, um, game?  :uhrr:

So many questions raised by this scoreboard. (Oh, and our wonderfully useless Sion - he was solo top, Ashe and Swain were bot together.)



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Chimpy on December 06, 2011, 10:31:11 PM
the 41/41 kills/deaths thing for both teams is kinda O.o

Also, 99 minutes?   :ye_gods:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on December 06, 2011, 10:35:24 PM
This was such a, um, game?  :uhrr:

So many questions raised by this scoreboard. (Oh, and our wonderfully useless Sion - he was solo top, Ashe and Swain were bot together.)


On a related note, how do you like Jungle Evelyn?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Megrim on December 06, 2011, 10:57:28 PM
Why not Lichbane, with that build?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Xuri on December 06, 2011, 11:16:28 PM
So. Seven normal games (blind pick, solo queue) lost in a row with no chance of winning either. 5 of those in a row tonight.

But the EIGHT game will surely go my way.  :why_so_serious: *queues up for more torture*


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on December 06, 2011, 11:40:26 PM
Supportplank is pretty fun.


Team "boner4ur" were pretty damn awful.  I guess they were complaining about lag.  The Caitlyn I was babysitting, ohh man,  she was terrible.  Could tell that she's never played Cait before because Aces were hitting them at full health so they weren't up when I sent them running.  DEM BOOTS, WTF.

edit: I'm already tired of free Riven week.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ashamanchill on December 06, 2011, 11:59:15 PM
Why not Lichbane, with that build?

Lol first thing I thought too. That being said, I've played with Thrawn: the man knows what he's doing.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Arinon on December 07, 2011, 12:44:51 AM
Pretty sure Leblanc is going to be my introduction to the wonderful world of carries.  Blazed through a bunch of games today and did well on most, and the not-so-good ones I at least stayed above .500 in k/d.  I don't have a good point of reference but she seems to snowball pretty hard.  A couple of early kills and a Q-R-W combo is almost all of a squishies health.

Supportplank is pretty fun.
When I see GP going for the gold items I start to worry.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on December 07, 2011, 01:09:54 AM
Well, we probably would have been better off if I had just took as much CS as possible and built for damage.  But, it was done to fill a role (and largely just to try it).  I had no idea our Cait was new/clueless.  Just kind of walk back and forth Q'ing them and then firing off E when appropriate.   Ward up and look for opportunities to ult, while I go afk in the brush.

Not a huge fan of GP/10 top lane planks.  Some seem to do OK, but eh.  I used to build avarice blade on GP for a while, but tend to go more the wriggles route on my AD bruisers now.  Then either build tanky or build for fun.  


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on December 07, 2011, 05:37:09 AM
This was such a, um, game?  :uhrr:

So many questions raised by this scoreboard. (Oh, and our wonderfully useless Sion - he was solo top, Ashe and Swain were bot together.)

That's pretty easy to explain. Their end game health > your end game health.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on December 07, 2011, 09:19:49 AM
Pretty sure Leblanc is going to be my introduction to the wonderful world of carries.  Blazed through a bunch of games today and did well on most, and the not-so-good ones I at least stayed above .500 in k/d.  I don't have a good point of reference but she seems to snowball pretty hard.  A couple of early kills and a Q-R-W combo is almost all of a squishies health.

I tried her 3 games last night. I can safely say she does rock. She can be a little squishy early or can rock hard if faced against morons. Hitting the E chain spell is difficult, but I find it's not really that important to the character if you miss it. The big one is knowing when to W-W in and out.

Riven on the other hand, I fucking hate Riven. I tried one game and was apparently the second best player on the team despite the fact I spent most of the game randomly mashing buttons like a fatfingered fuckhead because I couldn't figure out her Q. I managed 7 kills in a loss, including a 3 kill streak, mainly because of a really good Twisted Fate player on our team. The rest of the team was pretty scattershot and we lost. Then I played as Leblanc and won a game despite not having any clue how we did it. We had lost all our central turrets and they had two champs almost ready to hit our nexus when suddenly their nexus was down. The WORST GAREN EVER was on our team, continually dying to tower dives and spinning into 3 and 4 on 1's and dying. At one point he was like 0/7/1 and even I was getting pissed.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Arinon on December 07, 2011, 10:51:19 AM
Hitting the E chain spell is difficult, but I find it's not really that important to the character if you miss it. The big one is knowing when to W-W in and out.

In eight games I think I cast the E about 10 times total.  Not sure how to use it.  I guess it's a good opener if you can hit it 100% of the time but I can't and wiffing it kinda tips your hand.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on December 07, 2011, 01:03:22 PM
It's not bad if you're in a crowd, or if you can hit it the moment a melee tries to run out of combat with you. Otherwise, it's just gravy if you hit with it. I didn't seem to need it.

Just had an amazing game at lunch. Our team absolutely OWNED on SR. I wanted to try out Sion and had no real clue what I was doing but picked him up quick. I like him. I ended up with 5/3/5 and the team totals were like 23/5/23. Just INSANE. I think they surrendered shortly after the 20 minute mark after just getting destroyed. The worst part was that our Trynd kept getting DC'ed and we still rolled. I was top laning with a Kennen against a Trynd/Nunu combo that tried to be too aggressive early, died, then tried to hug the turret almost the rest of the game. It didn't work, as theirs was the 2nd turret down. I even killed a Kayle that came up along the river trying to get a gank in and ended up solo against the both of us. I don't know how the team was that bad, but they were bloody awful.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Furiously on December 07, 2011, 01:22:50 PM
Pretty sure Leblanc is going to be my introduction to the wonderful world of carries.  Blazed through a bunch of games today and did well on most, and the not-so-good ones I at least stayed above .500 in k/d.  I don't have a good point of reference but she seems to snowball pretty hard.  A couple of early kills and a Q-R-W combo is almost all of a squishies health.

I tried her 3 games last night. I can safely say she does rock. She can be a little squishy early or can rock hard if faced against morons. Hitting the E chain spell is difficult, but I find it's not really that important to the character if you miss it. The big one is knowing when to W-W in and out.

Riven on the other hand, I fucking hate Riven. I tried one game and was apparently the second best player on the team despite the fact I spent most of the game randomly mashing buttons like a fatfingered fuckhead because I couldn't figure out her Q. I managed 7 kills in a loss, including a 3 kill streak, mainly because of a really good Twisted Fate player on our team. The rest of the team was pretty scattershot and we lost. Then I played as Leblanc and won a game despite not having any clue how we did it. We had lost all our central turrets and they had two champs almost ready to hit our nexus when suddenly their nexus was down. The WORST GAREN EVER was on our team, continually dying to tower dives and spinning into 3 and 4 on 1's and dying. At one point he was like 0/7/1 and even I was getting pissed.

Riven is all about her stun skill actually. You need to time the q so you hit with it, get in an autoattack then q again, autoattack, w, then q again. Course you r before all that.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on December 07, 2011, 02:22:55 PM
Why not Lichbane, with that build?

It would of been my next item replacing wriggles, I should of built it earlier but with the way the game ended up it wouldn't of mattered. I think I was Wrigges>Boots>Mejai>Sheen>Trinity>Rylias>Deathcap.  I probably should of done it maybe after Sheen instead of TF?  I wanted to get tankier though and near the end had cash to Deathcap and just grabbed it without thinking.  As someone else said they were too far ahead and so HP tanky we couldn't even come close to winning a fight by the end, Eve is so useless against a tanky team even as fed as I was.  Only reason the game went 50 minutes is because I kept picking off Corki and Annie in team fights and getting away.  I could barely kill Corki and I couldn't even get near Nasus/Vlad solo.

On a related note, how do you like Jungle Evelyn?

Would never play it again by choice unless they patch her.  In my opinion removing the stun from her stealth completely killed her.  She can get some ok ganks early, but mid-late game you are usually a melee range char with no tank who isn't good for much but picking off runners or people way out of position.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: PalmTrees on December 07, 2011, 08:48:16 PM
Was switching between characters last night and somewhat annoyed at having to redo masteries so often. I checked the store but they don't sell extra mastery pages. Such a dumb move on their part.
lol, just after I wrote this I just noticed the + button to add mastery pages.

My Miss Fortune needs much practice. Very embarrassing blunder when my mouse skipped a bit and my ult fired off to the side of the enemies rather than through the center. That's one of my biggest weaknesses in the game. I often have such a hard time keeping track of the cursor,my character and everyone else when a team fight breaks out and it's sparklies everywhere.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on December 08, 2011, 12:58:35 AM
Was switching between characters last night and somewhat annoyed at having to redo masteries so often. I checked the store but they don't sell extra mastery pages. Such a dumb move on their part.
lol, just after I wrote this I just noticed the + button to add mastery pages.

My Miss Fortune needs much practice. Very embarrassing blunder when my mouse skipped a bit and my ult fired off to the side of the enemies rather than through the center. That's one of my biggest weaknesses in the game. I often have such a hard time keeping track of the cursor,my character and everyone else when a team fight breaks out and it's sparklies everywhere.


I was going to say something.  But I hadn't tested the upper limit on how many pages you could create.

Had a nice string tonight except for the game where I tried Soraka and my entire Korean team went afk 10 minutes in because they were having "connection problems".  Let's just say jungle Morde wasn't very effective.

Then just had a game that went 58 minutes, and I had to resort to 4 potting at the end just to spend my money.  Started off awful.  Or Irelia was feeding in a 2 v 1 (we had the 2).  My Ryze was getting skull fucked by Karthus (I seriously just get wrecked by him every time).  Bot was doing OK, but nothing great.  We got in a huge hole, 2 inhibs down and really far back in farm.   Luckily toward the end they didn't push as a team and were easy to catch.  Other than their Wukong, we destroyed them in team fights and took the only barons in the game.  Their scores went mostly negative, (their Koreans were BAAAD) except for Wukong and Karthus, and it just became a beat down.  Finished 18/11/15 (death record for me!) and was just wrecking with a full build at the end, and since I was the only AP, they didn't have a lot of MR.  It's a game I swear we were going to lose 30 minutes in.  We just got really tanky, and they just lost their shit.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Der Helm on December 08, 2011, 10:51:28 AM
it wouldn't of would not HAVE mattered.
:mob:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on December 08, 2011, 07:18:39 PM
it wouldn't of would not HAVE mattered.
:mob:

Sorry, could of typed it correctly but people understood it so it wouldn't of mattered.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on December 08, 2011, 08:17:29 PM
Playing a smurf account is depressing. Every game seems to have multiple rage quits.

Edit: probably due to all the smurfs.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ice Cream Emperor on December 08, 2011, 10:58:14 PM

Yeah, low level games are like 75% smurf.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Setanta on December 09, 2011, 01:59:15 AM
I've become a big fan of Janna. Other than early game running dry on mana, it's surprisingly easy to get on the killboard and to push. I've come to the conclusion I play ranged hit and run better than melee.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on December 09, 2011, 10:00:14 AM
Goddamn, Sion is just fucking awesomesauce. Even in games where I get downed or have muppets for teammates, I'm still able to get kills and survive and frustrate the fuck out of the other team. I've been playing him exclusively for the last three days and he just wrecks people. He tends to die a bit late game with the massive amounts of focused damage that can be put on him, but early game, he can get kills and push lanes, and even mid-game, he's pretty viable.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on December 09, 2011, 10:15:48 AM
Goddamn, Sion is just fucking awesomesauce. Even in games where I get downed or have muppets for teammates, I'm still able to get kills and survive and frustrate the fuck out of the other team. I've been playing him exclusively for the last three days and he just wrecks people. He tends to die a bit late game with the massive amounts of focused damage that can be put on him, but early game, he can get kills and push lanes, and even mid-game, he's pretty viable.

I've seen both AP and AD sions as viable, whats your preference?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on December 09, 2011, 10:19:30 AM
BOOOOM!


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on December 09, 2011, 10:51:38 AM
The AD Sions I've seen have been pretty pathetic. Can be hard to kill though, when their ult is on.  AP Sion is a bit of a pub stomper.  I found it fun playing against Sion as Soraka.  Sion bravely charges in, silence, Sion gets focused down hard.

Now I know why people shy away from playing support.  Holy shit you take a lot of flak.  I finished a game 2/3/32 where I took very little CS.   Still, it was a 2/1/2 lane setup and instead of pairing me with Ashe, they stuck me with a laning Amumu and Ashe went top lane with her friend.   Apparently this mumu thought that just bandaging and diving on a Xin Zhao / Caitlyn combo was a good idea.  Repeatedly.  "Soraka, get starfall, one starfall and they were dead".  No, that just would have been a double kill for them as I get in Starfall range and Xin leaps on my shit.  At one point, I ran by Karthus in mid, healed him and gave him mana and he responds with "Get the fuck out of my lane".  So, I starfall his creeps  :why_so_serious: "Fuck you, Soraka".

So, it's time once again to put the entire team on ignore and just do my thing. Once our tower goes down in mid, I get to ignore Mumu and our Riven is off doing some shit, so I decide to babysit Ashe.  And, she just destroys them.  GEEE.  She had 7 or 8 deaths up to that point and died a single time afterwards.  We won pretty hard after that.  I built really tanky, mainly because I have no idea how to build Soraka still, but provided a lot of auras and was able to stay in fights forever.  I even got to toss in a "fuck you" KS on a fleeing Swain.    :grin:  I did let them get the next kill shot on the other dead meat.

I think I'm getting the hang now of Soraka, but it's a completely thankless and incredibly frustrating experience.  You're at the mercy of how intelligent your team is.  You are not going to save the single idiot that gets caught miles from a turret.  You're not going to turn that 2 v. 4 into a win.  If your team is full of chuckleheads, your contribution is just going to be a bad stat line.   Ohh, and it's really dumb that they let you


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on December 09, 2011, 11:23:58 AM


Now I know why people shy away from playing support. 

Yeah, I've been struggling with this personally.  It seems few people want to play support or tank (more tanks marginally).  The proble is, both can end up being totally useless if the rest of the team doesn't pull their weight, and then you blamed because your stats are bad.  Meanwhile, if I had just gone with another mage or something it would probably be a hypothetically worse team, but at least you can be useful if the team is bad.   At the same time, i know that picking a support hero will be great if my team actually understands how to play (I supported a Nasus the other day and let him farm up his Q and he was absolutely devastating in the late game, for example).  I guess this is the peril of solo queuing, which I've been trying to do less.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ice Cream Emperor on December 09, 2011, 11:30:53 AM

This is why Cho'Gath is my favourite tank. If my team is failing by the time I get my Rod of Ages and boots then I can at least switch to an ap-carry build and have some fun on the way out.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on December 09, 2011, 11:31:53 AM
Now I know why people shy away from playing support.  Holy shit you take a lot of flak.  I finished a game 2/3/32 where I took very little CS.

Yeah, this is one of the poisonous things about pro-level play.

0CS support are only good if you have a really strong AD, who is picking up all those CS. Doubly so with Soraka, who is extremely passive laning phase. At least Sona harasses like a boss early on, and Alistar is great for setting up kills.

Also, no random person you're playing with is good enough that you shouldn't take a few CS early so you can rush your philo stone.

But yeah, support is for duo queue.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on December 09, 2011, 11:45:14 AM
Goddamn, Sion is just fucking awesomesauce. Even in games where I get downed or have muppets for teammates, I'm still able to get kills and survive and frustrate the fuck out of the other team. I've been playing him exclusively for the last three days and he just wrecks people. He tends to die a bit late game with the massive amounts of focused damage that can be put on him, but early game, he can get kills and push lanes, and even mid-game, he's pretty viable.

I've seen both AP and AD sions as viable, whats your preference?

I'm not sure. I seem to do best when I use AD runes, but go for an AP/Health build first. I'm still so nooby with the items that I tend to go with the recommended ones first until I learn what works. I think I've been going Doran's Ring (AP/Health), the magic resist boots, and depending on my farm/health, I either go with Banshee's Veil or Wiggle's Lantern (for the lifesteal/damage/armor/wards) then Banshee. When I went with AP runes, I felt like I couldn't do enough early on.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on December 09, 2011, 11:45:37 AM
Now I know why people shy away from playing support.  Holy shit you take a lot of flak.  I finished a game 2/3/32 where I took very little CS.

Yeah, this is one of the poisonous things about pro-level play.

0CS support are only good if you have a really strong AD, who is picking up all those CS. Doubly so with Soraka, who is extremely passive laning phase. At least Sona harasses like a boss early on, and Alistar is great for setting up kills.

Also, no random person you're playing with is good enough that you shouldn't take a few CS early so you can rush your philo stone.

But yeah, support is for duo queue.


I never felt like I was behind on cash really.  It was just dumb being paired with a Mumu, when there was a much better lane partner available (that I wasn't queued with, so there's that.  The rest of my team were all queued together.).  A Mumu / Riven lane would have been a lot more effective along with pairing me with Ashe.  But I could have taken a lot more CS early and probably should have.  A whole 2 games as Soraka under my belt, so mistakes are likely being made and often.

Not sure I want to continue it.  This feels a bit like my jungling attempts.  

Haem: That's... suboptimal.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: K9 on December 09, 2011, 02:25:37 PM
I had some fun playing AP Soraka and just spamming Starfall EVERYWHERE. She can actually put out quite a punch, although it will piss off your teammates if they are bad and were relying on you to be a crutch support for them.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on December 09, 2011, 02:36:35 PM
Haem: That's... suboptimal.

I'm open to suggestions. I seriously do not overestimate my ability to buy the wrong things based on not having an encyclopedic knowledge of the item database.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on December 09, 2011, 02:45:23 PM
Haem: That's... suboptimal.

I'm open to suggestions. I seriously do not overestimate my ability to buy the wrong things based on not having an encyclopedic knowledge of the item database.

Scion is about the sheen proct. What you want is to grap a mana crystal early and build sheen. Then you have 3 options for boots, merc treds (for tankyness), move 3 (for AP scion) or bezker boots (for AD). From there you have a few more even more epic options. No matter what you will be a surpremely annoying scion.

You can, trinity force, phantom dancer, atmas -> game should have ended for AD scion fun
You can, trinity force, warmongs, atmas -> game should have ended for tank scion fun
You can, lichbane, radon -> game ended cause team raged and left for AP fun.

AP scion falls off by the end of the game.
AD scion keeps getting better as the game continues. BUT. you have to build him correctly and learn when to fight.
Tank scion, build against their team after atmas and you'll be fine.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on December 09, 2011, 04:42:55 PM
Most Sions these days build boots of mobility, the boots that make you go super fast when out of combat. The idea is to use your shield to blow up all the minions in your lane then quickly run to and gank one of the other lanes.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Dark_MadMax on December 09, 2011, 06:52:55 PM
Ryze is now mMy favorite AP carry.If not for trolls I would be out of elo hell:


And the last game- no I wasnt carried , enemy AD team focused my 198 armor and 3200 HP hard every team fight, they got me every time but got aced every time as well lol


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Arinon on December 09, 2011, 08:31:59 PM
Now I know why people shy away from playing support.  Holy shit you take a lot of flak. 

I think this is very much character specific.  People's brains seem to turn to mush if you have an honest to goodness heal like Soraka or Sona.  I rarely take any flak on Zil or Janna though.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on December 09, 2011, 10:00:23 PM
Most Sions these days build boots of mobility, the boots that make you go super fast when out of combat. The idea is to use your shield to blow up all the minions in your lane then quickly run to and gank one of the other lanes.

Yes and they are scrubs.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on December 09, 2011, 10:17:21 PM
I havent seen any of the problems running support that you guys do, unless I play really bad. Support isn't that hard to play, but it is to play it really well. Most the time people at my elo are happy to see a support over some raging fucker that picks 4th and MUST SOLO MID


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on December 11, 2011, 11:44:21 PM
Ryze is now mMy favorite AP carry.If not for trolls I would be out of elo hell:


And the last game- no I wasnt carried , enemy AD team focused my 198 armor and 3200 HP hard every team fight, they got me every time but got aced every time as well lol

Ryze is quickly becoming my favorite to play period.  Very rarely do I not feel that I've made a positive contribution with him.  Some lane matchups aren't very favorable (I love that Fizz can basically decide to just chunk you if he lands that fucking fish), but when the game goes to team fights, I think you're pretty damn strong.   Plus, you've got auras, durability and spammable spells.   One game I truly did bad was due mainly to my lane partner, a Wukong, (would rather solo, but alas, meta) being a complete basket case.   We get a 2 v 1 lane, and I swear he fat fingered his abilities or just flat out didn't engage at all any time I got under fire.   Jarvan jumps on me and he immediately ults.. 20 ft away. He did this sort of shit soo many times.  Probably his first time on Wu.. I hope.

All of the sudden, however, I seem to have no idea on how to play my bruisers, at all.  My GP was coming around, and then all of the sudden my Wukong has gone into the shitter.  Tried Garen, but I don't think I like him very much.  Plus, I was bizzaro Garen, getting destroyed early but mopping up late.  Bought Trynd, but unsure if I want to bring him out.  People seem to be instalocking solo top pretty fast nowadays, so I'm getting limited reps as well.   Might just go back to Singed.  I play him from time to time and am always pretty solid.  Less of a chance of some of the truly bafflng bad play I've had at other times. 

And the bad play and community is finally starting to get to me.  SWTOR's looming too.  A break might not be a bad thing.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on December 12, 2011, 08:17:28 AM
Yeah, there are a huge number of people wanting to play solotop. There was a time when I was getting a lot of practice on Irelia, and now, never.

On the other hand, the competence of people in the occasional 1v2 solo top match has risen immensely.

AD carries are actually the least picked (after support of course), and I kind of understand why after a few times playing Sivir. Sometimes I get her to rock, sometimes I'm stuck fighting for CS in a Sivir/Riven lane, and that's no fun.

Still, people don't like jungling, so I just get to run around as a tanky scorpion all day. Fine by me!

Take a break! We'll all still be here.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on December 12, 2011, 11:59:08 AM
I liked Sivir the first time I played her, but as I've gotten to understand the game more, I really don't like her. She's just too passive/auto-attacky for me.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: tazelbain on December 12, 2011, 12:08:11 PM
More importantly why the fuck does her pinwheel change sizes all the time.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on December 12, 2011, 12:34:16 PM
AD carries are actually the least picked (after support of course), and I kind of understand why after a few times playing Sivir. Sometimes I get her to rock, sometimes I'm stuck fighting for CS in a Sivir/Riven lane, and that's no fun.

Yah, if there's two slots left, it's usually the support and AD carry waiting to be picked. Now I just pick Soraka and hope for the best.  I used to say "Ok, I'm terrible at ranged AD, but it looks like we need one", then watch as the last person locks in a solo/top AP carry and shits all over your CS in bot lane.  So you're under-farmed and playing a role you're not great at.  Fantastic.  And with my luck, it's one of the occasions where your jungler is a complete psycho. 






Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on December 12, 2011, 01:00:20 PM
I liked Sivir the first time I played her, but as I've gotten to understand the game more, I really don't like her. She's just too passive/auto-attacky for me.

You know, I actually like that aspect.  I'm happy to just get farmed and then be like: here's me teleporting and taking down your towers in fifteen seconds. When you get some lifesteal built on her, you can even solo tank towers for a bit. And on matches where you have teleport, and nobody on the opps does? Might as well gg then.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: jakonovski on December 12, 2011, 05:00:59 PM
I started learning Sivir a few days ago, a great champ. She's totally not an autoattack champ, at least not with my build (which I understand was popular back in the day before Sivir got nerfed originally). I'm currently going Manamune, Banshee's Veil and Frozen Heart (+ Berz Boots and Philo Stone) for a really persistent pain in the arse AD carry. Once you get the 'Mune you can spam Q and W to harrass very effectively.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on December 12, 2011, 07:11:31 PM
I started learning Sivir a few days ago, a great champ. She's totally not an autoattack champ, at least not with my build (which I understand was popular back in the day before Sivir got nerfed originally). I'm currently going Manamune, Banshee's Veil and Frozen Heart (+ Berz Boots and Philo Stone) for a really persistent pain in the arse AD carry. Once you get the 'Mune you can spam Q and W to harrass very effectively.

Is manamune enough to make her really carry? I like watching my AD carry absolutely melt people late game.....


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on December 12, 2011, 08:06:23 PM
I started learning Sivir a few days ago, a great champ. She's totally not an autoattack champ, at least not with my build (which I understand was popular back in the day before Sivir got nerfed originally). I'm currently going Manamune, Banshee's Veil and Frozen Heart (+ Berz Boots and Philo Stone) for a really persistent pain in the arse AD carry.

Sounds bad.

She already has a spell shield, why get Veil? And Frozen Heart? How are you doing damage? Your only damage item is Manamune, which is pretty meh. Anyone with any armor is going to be able to just shrug off your damage.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on December 12, 2011, 09:09:36 PM
Just spitballing, and without reading anything, but manamune sounds good to rush, then maybe get something like Ghostblade to get some ar pen, crit, and cooldown reduction (for more blades so you can use all that mana), AS, movespeed...then an IE and maybe a tanky item. Bloodthirster for the lifesteal last? Run flat armor yellows and MR/level blues...with AR pen marks and whatever quints you feel. Probably rock 21/9/0 or 9/21/0 for survivabilty. I haven't played her in probably over a year and have no idea but sounds good to me!

My completely untested theory build:

Manamune
Ghostblade
IE
Bloodthirster
TANKY ITEM (maybe mallet)
Some boots

Get in a fight, pop ult, ghostblade, SURGE?...maybe kill something!

EDIT: probably fuck manamune altogether and just get chalice or something.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ice Cream Emperor on December 12, 2011, 11:41:46 PM

Sivir was the only AD carry I owned until two days ago (when I picked up Tristana). The new Sivir is definitely much less of an auto-attack carry than the old one, and certainly less than most other carries, which I do feel opens up a wider variety of viable builds.

My build is generally: start with pendant, get tear and boots ASAP, then either finish manamune and later berserker's or, if necessary, postpone manamune in favour of stacking doran's and in that case grab berserker's greaves before manamune.

From there it's Bloodthirster's, then either Banshee's Veil or Phantom Dancer depending on what's going on. Anything past that is like w/e, but I would probably pick up a second Bloodthirster's as my last item, or maybe Stark's.

The idea that having spellshield somehow decreases the usefulness of Veil is... not really all that sensible, to my thinking. The MR health and mana are also pretty useful, though I guess you could try a Frozen Mallet instead to really kite it up -- but given that I'm always getting the Bloodthirster's first, I feel like by that stage of the game there's not really all that much kiting going on.




Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on December 13, 2011, 02:44:12 AM
There is nothing wrong with Veil but getting Veil before significant damage items is weird even if you don't have a spell shield. So much invested into staying alive but why bother if enemy can just ignore you?

I'm not a fan of stacking thirsters because you lose so much when you die. In general I'm not a fan of stacks you lose when you die because the games where you are dying are the games you want to be able to come back and still win and stack items make that even harder. One thirster is fine but I would never build a second one unless it was for lulz or unless I was somehow getting into 1 v 1 fights I wanted to keep winning.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: jakonovski on December 13, 2011, 03:45:50 AM
I probably went overboard with the protection but solo queue does things like that to you. She's not ignorable by any means though, I was consistently able to carry.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ice Cream Emperor on December 13, 2011, 11:40:44 AM
I'm not a fan of stacking thirsters because you lose so much when you die.

Yeah, I agree, but in this case we're talking about a 6th item -- and while sure Sivir farms extremely well, at that point if you die the game is probably over anyways. Also, being Sivir, you tend to get those stacks back very fast if you lose them.

The double-Bloodthirster's ultra-endgame thing was probably more appropriate to the old Sivir anyways, where the goal was just to get to the point where you can auto-attack in teamfights using your super-short range with little fear of death -- basically 'as long as I am attacking, we win', because the constant bouncing would do such ridiculous damage, and the lifesteal and veil/shield helps keep you alive. The new Sivir is much less auto-attacky, or at least you have to be more proactive with your ricochets, etc. even in the very late game.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Typhon on December 13, 2011, 01:36:59 PM
Richochet triggers on-next hit effects.

Ghostblade
Triforce
IE

Sheen effect + IE crit effect + three sources of crit = pain.

Start with Brutalizer or Sheen (Sheen if you have mana issues).

yeah, it's expensive as hell.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on December 14, 2011, 12:15:04 PM
How to become a the best LoL player in the world: http://imgur.com/TXMNw


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Dark_MadMax on December 14, 2011, 01:49:19 PM
How to become a the best LoL player in the world: http://imgur.com/TXMNw
priceless!!!!


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: K9 on December 14, 2011, 02:05:54 PM
Heh


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on December 14, 2011, 02:12:47 PM
As much as calling mia is the only reason to keep your chat box on, it teaches people that not looking to your fucking bottom right will save your life. You won't believe how slow peoples reaction times are at even the 1400 elo.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: jakonovski on December 14, 2011, 04:55:01 PM
In addition to the whole Sivir business, I've also been jungling a lot. It's kinda funny, Riot proclaimed that they wanted to make jungle more accessible, but it's not. If you're bad or have a bad jungler champ, you won't die to the creeps but you'll fall way behind in exp, easily to the point of being a free kill. That means superfast junglers like Shyvana have received a huge stealth buff, because they can take a few failed ganks without becoming gimped.

I also tried Poppy jungling precisely once. It's ridiculous, but in early game taking down any single jungle camp drains all her mana.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on December 14, 2011, 05:04:00 PM
It's quite surreal realizing during a game that I'm the best player on my team and without myself and one other player, this team would be total shit. I played SR last night as Twitch and just owned face (for me that is - 22/9/15). Started mid lane against a Caitlyn and was 11 when she hit level 8. I was up like 5 kills to 2 deaths but she did manage to take down my first turret before I killed her and took down hers. I can't figure out WTF the other lanes were doing because I was literally like 3 or 4 levels above them and they hadn't taken any turrets but none of the other team seemed particularly fed either. We ended up having to grab Baron and make a made dash rush to win because both nexus turrets were down for both teams because of some badly timed deaths. The rest of the team was just terrible. The game lasted almost an hour when it really shouldn't have.

I sat the results screen just in awe wondering how it was possible. On my BEST days with good farm, I'm a mediocre player. I didn't check summoner levels, so maybe that was it. It was just  :uhrr: :ye_gods:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on December 16, 2011, 10:51:46 AM
Been messing around with AP Jungle Gragas. He is a boss coming out of the woods. Super ganker after level 6, once some AP is built up you can clear waves/camps with ease. Useful late game for poke/initiation. Kinda squishy. Nice escape ability, though.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on December 18, 2011, 12:12:55 AM
First ranked games: 0-2. :(

Some lessons: if you don't like the people you just played with: don't requeue at all.

And the thing here is that the quality of play just plummeted: like I was getting pretty good at normals, so I was getting some quality opponents...but now just the bottom dropped out and I'm back with the super-whiners and the people who play only two characters, and inefficient builds.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Mosesandstick on December 18, 2011, 04:40:47 AM
You have to tough out the first few games of ranked, they're placement matches.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on December 18, 2011, 04:42:33 AM
When I started ranked I had AFK/leavers like 10 of my first 12 games, ended up at 800 elo lol.

Now at 1450 or so I'm practically a pro gamer!


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on December 19, 2011, 01:58:09 PM
God, help me, I think I'm turning into a support player.   :ye_gods:  Still almost always as Soraka.  Tried Sona, but I was having problems gauging the distance for her Q, but I did land a lot of solid Rs (that were wasted on my shit-ass team).  Might try a couple games as Alistair, if I get the right lane partner.  Taric doesn't sound appealing, except for bot lane with Vayne/Cait.

I find support is the easiest for me to play and be satisfied with how I'm playing when I'm only doing a game or two a day (thanks to SWTOR).  The biggest thing that I seem to struggle with now that I'm not playing as much is my spacing in team battles is atrocious.  I get focused a damn ton and always seem to be in the middle of the rape train.  I do notice that a lot of people like to pick on the support for an easier kill, while the rest of their team gets mauled by the carries.   This becomes less of a problem later in game as all of your aura items end up making you a bit durable. 

And.. gotta love that Shurelia's.  Saved some asses with that yesterday.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on December 19, 2011, 02:26:55 PM
Support can be fun to play with a good group.

Support will make you rage quit solo queue as you play a great game and watch helplessly as your horrible carries throw the game away.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on December 19, 2011, 02:33:48 PM
I must have been playing decently, because I never get a word said to me other than "thanks" or "buy more wards".  I got a "get oracles" in my last game and proceeded to sweep the map of.. 0 wards.   :awesome_for_real:

The buy more wards thing is a bit annoying when the bastards won't bother warding their own lane or place a single ward themselves.  I could have nice items, but I'm getting a stack of wards every trip to base.  I think I need to finally break down and buy gp/10 quints/seals.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on December 19, 2011, 03:08:50 PM
Well, it seems like the ideal support setup is:

Arm (flat)
GP10, MReg/lvl
MR/lvl
GP10, FT


So whatever inches you closer to that?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on December 19, 2011, 03:15:38 PM
I must have been playing decently, because I never get a word said to me other than "thanks" or "buy more wards".  I got a "get oracles" in my last game and proceeded to sweep the map of.. 0 wards.   :awesome_for_real:

The buy more wards thing is a bit annoying when the bastards won't bother warding their own lane or place a single ward themselves.  I could have nice items, but I'm getting a stack of wards every trip to base.  I think I need to finally break down and buy gp/10 quints/seals.

I know how it's annoying, but actually, this is kind of your job: like really, if you've built your CDR boots, Shurelias, and an Aegis, that's pretty much an okay item build for a support. The advantage of GP10 runes is how quick you can get your first GP10 item: it's something like 3:10 with a Regrowth/Ward start.

And the oracle sweeping for 0 wards: awesome. Now you know they have no idea where you are.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on December 19, 2011, 03:28:09 PM
Anyone have any experience jungling Rammus?  I played him in lane earlier but ended up roaming and ganking after about 7 minutes anyway, and I know I've seen people jungle him before.  Set up a bunch of ganks with him today and figured it might be good to learn how to play him that way from the beginning.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on December 19, 2011, 03:46:40 PM
.... Rammus?  I played him in lane ....

(http://i.imgur.com/i2IGc.jpg)


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on December 19, 2011, 04:06:48 PM
Anyone have any experience jungling Rammus?  I played him in lane earlier but ended up roaming and ganking after about 7 minutes anyway, and I know I've seen people jungle him before.  Set up a bunch of ganks with him today and figured it might be good to learn how to play him that way from the beginning.

Somebody else has more experience with him, but basically it's get blue, because you need it so bad. As soon as there looks like an opportunity, take taunt as your next level up, then gank away.

The thing about Rammus ganks that are so terrifying is that even if you have your wards in the standard spots, it is too late, you are already dead by the time you see him (you always want to be at near full speed on your powerball by the time you hit the bush). Make sure you ping and chat your ganks way ahead of time, because even though Rammus is pretty much S class on ganking, he ain't killing anybody without help.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on December 19, 2011, 05:58:09 PM
.... Rammus?  I played him in lane ....

(http://i.imgur.com/i2IGc.jpg)

Thanks your contribution helped me out a lot.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on December 19, 2011, 06:00:29 PM
I try.

I've played a lot of jungle Rammus, he's one of my favorite junglers.  I'm just reluctant to give any advice because of what a huge change the new jungle patch was and the fact I haven't played the new jungle much.  I know pre-patch you could go Double Golems>Wraiths>Wolves>Blue just fine although getting blue took a LONG time without help.  If you can get help and start blue it really improves your run.  Now you can probably just do whatever you want and hit blue when you are having mana issues.

Rammus should always be jungle just because his gank is SOOOOOO good.  He comes out with powerball speed, taunts to keep the person in place, is tanky so doesn't die in the gank.  It's just all good.

*edit* Well, not all.  One thing I really do NOT like about him is you can not solo dragon at any usefull point.  You NEED a team that will come with you and dps it down while you tank.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Dark_MadMax on December 19, 2011, 06:03:31 PM
Rammus is amazing jungler, the only thing  with him is that I pretty much require blue buff for well past lvl 6. Powerball is very mana hungry


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on December 19, 2011, 10:36:08 PM
Yeah, Rammus definitely falls into the: "be wary of picking him if you've got a blue dependent mid" category.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on December 20, 2011, 01:00:49 AM
So, been playing some solid GP lately.. and still losing.  Got of love it when your bot lane gets destroyed and feeds hard.  Then your Malzahar, who bitches about said lane, ends up going 5/13, mostly because he thinks his ult sure fire kill even in the midst of the entire enemy team.  Shaco that bitches about him, doesn't end up positive either.    :argh:  

The Ashes I've been getting in my games lately..  :ye_gods:  Low farm.  Hugely negative.  Gets massively pooped on by other team.  Lands maybe 1 decent arrow.  

edit: The kill lanes you see in my type of game are just brutal to fragile characters.  Winning teams are usually just whoever is tankier.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on December 20, 2011, 08:14:59 AM
Yeah, Rammus definitely falls into the: "be wary of picking him if you've got a blue dependent mid" category.

Build a Philo stone and don't spam ball and you can do fine usually.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on December 20, 2011, 08:44:29 AM

The Ashes I've been getting in my games lately..  :ye_gods:  Low farm.  Hugely negative.  Gets massively pooped on by other team.  Lands maybe 1 decent arrow.  


Got an Ashe yesterday who apparently didn't understand the game at all.  We asked him to pick a character to play mid, so he picked Ashe and while I can't say I see that real often these days, its at least a sensible pick so we thought ok here we go.  And then he went top.... and we had a jungler and then we had no mid...so Soraka who was supporting our Corki bottom had to go mid, and it was just a general train wreck.  Then the Ashe went 0/7 and quit the game.  Funny thing is we stayed even with them for about 25 minutes even givne that, but it was eventually too much to come back from.

Clownshoes.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on December 22, 2011, 01:06:49 PM
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1739972/web-images/sona-lol-dominated.jpg)

I may actually have gotten reasonably competent. It helped that I had a pretty damn good team and was bot laning with an Annie that was pretty good as well. I actually tried to pull back and not get kills on running champs and creeps. This was an absolute domination, due in part I'm sure to a team whose only decent player was the Twisted Fate that started bot lane with the Volibear against me and Annie. My first death was entirely due to lag on the first wave of creeps, and the two laning against us never got near my turret again. They surrendered right at the 20 minute mark.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on December 22, 2011, 01:13:00 PM
terrible item build on sona though you got a nice ratio. the trick is to load her up with gp gain items while your lane partner get all the kills. I go for CD redux boots as well. Then it's all about the aoe buff items until your very presence in a team fight amouns to your entire team having a shitton of armor/resists and dmg boots.

http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/sona-faceroll-support-77887

that's just about right.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on December 22, 2011, 01:38:48 PM
The item build was iffy. The merc treads were on the recommended list, but I'm not married to them. The rod was simply a "What do I get?" I didn't really think too hard about it, as I literally only went back to shop twice and didn't even really need to shop other than I had over 2k worth of gold and figured I'd better spend it now.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on December 22, 2011, 01:44:12 PM
Getting a philosopher's stone and turtle shell early game can help a lot. Not having to farm kills or creeps to get income frees you up for a lot of stuff which as a fulltime support can make a game.

 Only thing you can't do on sona is hold a fucking lane...oh my god am I sick of my lane partners just leaving to go do other shit while I try to hold off aves of creeps and two champs with my shitty two-hit Q


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: pxib on December 22, 2011, 02:11:07 PM
Pff. Obviously you've never built AD Sona.  :awesome_for_real:

Aura items yes, fantastic additions to most support characters since other people are so unlikely to grab them. Soul Shroud and Abyssal Scepter are especially awesome for Sona, but depending on the rest of your group composition, Will of the Ancients, Aegis of the Legion, and even Starks Fervor aren't insane... especially once you've got plenty of cash in the endgame.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on December 22, 2011, 02:21:19 PM
I prefer aegis first. tanks almost never seem to grab it and it gives both ac/mr for a bit of a well rounded aura.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on December 22, 2011, 02:22:46 PM
I've seen Sona hold a lane completely by herself 2v1 while I jungled with Yi. She absolutely OWNED people that game. Hell, she was 6 by the time I was 5 and had me come hold the lane while she went and bought items. Don't know how she was built, but she can hold a lane - if the player is good.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on December 22, 2011, 02:25:36 PM
I won a game as Sona by buying Starks, we were AD heavy in the final big fight the lifesteal / armor reduction pushed our team just enough over the edge to finish them.

I always start Regrowth pendant/ward or Regrowth/mana/health pot (with support masteries for more gold) - depending on how bad the other team's poke/jungler looks.

Build philo ASAP. Build Heart of Gold next, as well as boots. From there it is situational, but I sometime buy a Kage's lucky pick, or move on to aura items or Rylai's for some more health/AP/slow.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on December 22, 2011, 02:38:51 PM
I don't doubt an ap sona could hold a lane in the least but AP sona is "doing it wrong"


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on December 22, 2011, 02:39:41 PM
I can also tell that most people who play Dominion are kind of dumb. I am constantly able to be in the top 2 or 3 scorers simply because I understand that capping/defending/neutralizing points > everything else. I often have negative K/D ratios but still top out the points. I was on a team at lunch as Miss Fortune where I ended 9/11/5 or something like that but was almost twice the score of anyone else on the team. The next best was a Trynd who had like 25 kills but the rest was low K/D AND low scores. I could tell early on that the team consisted of a bunch of headhunters who were treating it like deathmatch mode.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on December 22, 2011, 05:29:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-8KJhySZoI&feature=youtu.be
 :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on December 22, 2011, 06:07:44 PM
I can also tell that most people who play Dominion are kind of dumb. I am constantly able to be in the top 2 or 3 scorers simply because I understand that capping/defending/neutralizing points > everything else. I often have negative K/D ratios but still top out the points. I was on a team at lunch as Miss Fortune where I ended 9/11/5 or something like that but was almost twice the score of anyone else on the team. The next best was a Trynd who had like 25 kills but the rest was low K/D AND low scores. I could tell early on that the team consisted of a bunch of headhunters who were treating it like deathmatch mode.

Agreed unfortunately.  I think half the reason Dominion doesn't live up to it's potential is too many people just play it like team deathmatch oblivious that points even exist.  :heartbreak:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on December 22, 2011, 07:14:52 PM
The item build was iffy. The merc treads were on the recommended list, but I'm not married to them. The rod was simply a "What do I get?" I didn't really think too hard about it, as I literally only went back to shop twice and didn't even really need to shop other than I had over 2k worth of gold and figured I'd better spend it now.

I usually start with a faerie pendant, 2 hp pots, 1 mana pot, and 2-3 wards.  This is with the added gold masteries.  Works out pretty well for me.  You get a philo stone and boots first back.  Then HoG and finish off Shurelias.  I LOVE SHURELIAS.  It definitely saves mine and other's bacon, when I remember I have it  :awesome_for_real:

But again, I don't play very aggressive support. I mainly play Soraka with a game of Sona and Alistair thrown in. I think the most kills I've gotten was 4 and that was on my only Alistar game.  The Poppy and I were the only decent players so that's why that number was up there.  Most kills I get outside of team fights are blatant KS attempts because I need to buy more wards.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on December 23, 2011, 01:27:35 AM
I think I just played the most obnoxious game I've had in the last month. 

Kennen on the opposing team was a complete douche.  He was good, but after anyone failed to gank him or he got a kill it was always shit talk like "that was awesome pro MLG".  It was always some dumb "pro MLG" comment.  Then he'd get into it with the Galio and Graves on his team, while simultaneously shit talking our Volibear and Ez. 

Meanwhile, our Katrina was a psycho.  We miss chasing a Galio (ohh and at this point Galio and Graves are shit talking us now), and Kat gets gibbed by Rammus.  She starts in calling me a faggot/cunt/whatever.  She's 2/7 at this point and finished like 2/13/7.  Always off on her own, getting caught and gibbed. 

On top of it, we probably would have won if our Volibear wasn't trolling (he said he was).  He was good, but instead of building tanky, went straight AD. 

At end, I was just happy it was over. I was 7/5/10 after starting 0/3.   So, happy with how I recovered, but I dislike a game where I end up just putting everyone on ignore because the chat is so obnoxious and distracting. 


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on December 23, 2011, 08:25:41 AM
Ignore, report, report, report.

Riot has come out recently saying that "gg noobs" and similar stuff is totally bannable.


In other news, I survived my qualification games in Ranked and came out with a 1204. My jungle skarner got 5 losses, and every other thing I played won. So much for my favorite jungler, right?  :ye_gods:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on December 26, 2011, 06:36:22 PM
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Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on December 26, 2011, 06:55:38 PM
Yeah, I got those as well. I'm waiting for the next sale to see what they have worth getting. I bought Pantheon on sale and keep getting tempted by Graves but I can't quite pull the trigger on him yet.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Setanta on December 27, 2011, 12:13:56 AM
I'm having a bad streak at the moment. Of course, I am trying to get together the IP for the Xmas quints so it's exactly the wrong time to do so. I've settled on Sivir/Cait as the chars to focus on and was having fun until I hit 22, now I'm lucky if I can pull 5 kills - well, to 15 assists at most. People just don't want to group up and we get annihilated.

Today was a perfect example where we got destroyed by Ahri/Garen/Janna/Warwick/Trundle. As Sivir I pulled down 4 turrets and was harassing/calling for help - but the number of times that people saw red bars and ran off meant that we were picked off one by one. One I had Ahri on minimal health and our Teemo ran straight past her to get to a full health Trundle.

I switched the game off after that humiliation  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on December 27, 2011, 01:39:20 PM
Ignore, report, report, report.

Riot has come out recently saying that "gg noobs" and similar stuff is totally bannable.


In other news, I survived my qualification games in Ranked and came out with a 1204. My jungle skarner got 5 losses, and every other thing I played won. So much for my favorite jungler, right?  :ye_gods:

Whats the item build, rune page and mastery.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on December 27, 2011, 03:45:49 PM
I've switched it up, and gotten some more wins recently.

I used to go cloth/5, wriggles/merc/tri.

Now I go TheOddOne's build: regrowth/hp, into philo/boots/heart of gold/pure tanky.

I think my problem with skarner is that I don't have pre-6 ganking right. I don't know whether I should be showing my face more just to drive people off? I also feel like almost every game I'm in has good ward coverage, bot, so ganking it is tres difficult, and then I get the: "wtf no ganks top' type of messages.

Maybe I just need to start jungling with more aggressive champions to get the hang of early ganks.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on December 27, 2011, 05:51:56 PM
Learn to gank from different angles. Come in from the river, come in from their territory, come in from behind your own tower when the lane is pushed.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on December 27, 2011, 06:04:21 PM
Maybe I just need to start jungling with more aggressive champions to get the hang of early ganks.

Just practice practice pretty much, imo jungling well is the hardest thing in the game to do.  Too many people think just because they can clear the jungle without dying they are good at jungling.  The hard part is landing your ganks, knowing where you should be when, counter jungling, etc.  I try to play almost exclusively jungle when I play normal games now and I still feel like I'm mostly terrible at it when it comes to ganks.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on December 27, 2011, 09:47:06 PM
I've switched it up, and gotten some more wins recently.

I used to go cloth/5, wriggles/merc/tri.

Now I go TheOddOne's build: regrowth/hp, into philo/boots/heart of gold/pure tanky.

I think my problem with skarner is that I don't have pre-6 ganking right. I don't know whether I should be showing my face more just to drive people off? I also feel like almost every game I'm in has good ward coverage, bot, so ganking it is tres difficult, and then I get the: "wtf no ganks top' type of messages.

Maybe I just need to start jungling with more aggressive champions to get the hang of early ganks.

If you need any pots jungling as skarmer your doing it wrong unless someone denied you blue. Your pre level 6 ganks are, W -> Q -> Q -> E -Q dead, bonus points if you have red buff. I think your problem is inefficient masteries & runes combined with wasting a lot of gold in the start and probably being under leveled compared to the bot laners and underfarmed.

The trick to ganking with any jungler is to find the lane that will feed you, not the lane that may need you and farm that lane for kills till they lose a tower. In normal games its always nice to gank bot often (almost garunteed kills if you factor out the derpyness), but ranked games, especially with the typical 0 cs support, bot tends to ward so your only luck is ganking top and mid exclusively save for bot lane being pushed to their towers. Its also about the generally derpness of the game, sometimes bot could be ganked but you can't rely on the people at bot to back you up, so you put that lane on ignore. Sounds awful but especially with the new jungle, you can't afford farm wise to fail constantly with ganks, its get a kill or go home. Always judge the generally aggressiveness and map awareness of someone your ganking with, and IGNORE THAT LANE if awareness is near nonexistent. Also no matter how much they cry for a gank NEVER leave the jungle to gank for someone with low mana/low health, unless by some dumb miracle the champ your ganking is in equal condition. Its rarely worth it.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on December 30, 2011, 11:42:10 AM
Just played a game against Dyrus' smurf account. (Dyrus is like 2200 elo and a pro player, I am around 1485)

I got first blood on him. With Sona.

Then my team made horrible decisions and he got super fed and crushed us. lol.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on December 30, 2011, 11:51:27 AM
Ooh, stream?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on December 30, 2011, 12:06:57 PM
He was apparently streaming it. I kind of hammed it up a bit after killing him.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on December 30, 2011, 02:22:08 PM
ranked is really full of fucking asshats. 


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on December 30, 2011, 03:49:13 PM
So, it is worth noting that ELO hell does exist: it's that area at 1200 +/- 50 (+/- 100 at the extremes) where you have a chance of being matched with people who are provisionally ranked players (people with less than 10-12 games, who can be of any skill level). But get out of that little strip of ELO (once your provisional games end), and you'll be in much better shape.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on December 30, 2011, 07:53:07 PM
Just played a game against Dyrus' smurf account. (Dyrus is like 2200 elo and a pro player, I am around 1485)

I got first blood on him. With Sona.

Then my team made horrible decisions and he got super fed and crushed us. lol.

I'm guessing he was playing Corki on his "Insert Smurf Here" account.  I saw some of that last night but didn't catch your game (actually, I may have watched the end of it, but I can't recall).  In the one I watched from the start, he got first blood.   Dyrus tends to be my favorite streamer to watch, mostly because he plays solo lanes most of the time.  His Singed/Morde/GP play is pretty fun to watch.   Plus, he's not a total troll (he gets trollish) or completely emotionally retarded like some.  

My string of luck has been pretty awful on Soraka lately.  I played one really good game with a good team where the other team was calling us premades and losing their shit at the end.  Our jungler was just really good and helped our 1 v 2 lane a lot. My Soraka/Shen lane (lol, unkillable) had a Kayle/Garen lane sitting at their tower the entire time.  The Shen was a bit suicidal, but played the bully pretty well and helped other lanes when needed.

Then I played two more solid games where my team was completely terrible.  My lane did fine, but the rest just got stomped.  In the first game, our jungle Fiddle was pretty retarded.  Died to minions twice and didn't really pull off any successful ganks.  Some pud playing the new champ kept getting ganked by Shaco (had no wards) and bitching about how UP he was and how OP Shaco was.   Second game was just as bad with our 2 v 1 top  of Garen/Jax being getting stomped by a lone Teemo.  Jax whined so hard and was so underleveled that he was getting on my nerves.  I started prompting for surrenders at 20 mins even though we weren't far behind in kills at all.   However, I was the only person that was positive k/d and not shitting up our chat.  At least I got a "GJ Soraka" at the end, while my team continued to snipe at each other.  

I'm thinking I need to play a more offensive support or just start taking more CS and building a bit more offensively.  It seems like I'm wasted on teams that don't have a player good enough to carry.  Or just say fuck the support concept and pick a non-support for a kill lane.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on December 30, 2011, 11:52:55 PM
I just had my team surrender in a 5 v 4 almost 10 minutes after I made their Trynd rage quit. No. Fucking. WORDS.   :argh:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Muffled on December 31, 2011, 12:33:49 AM
Saved the post-game stats for posterity?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on December 31, 2011, 01:37:07 AM
Wish I did, now that I think on it.  Were still 11/18 at that point, but starting to catch up (yah, that bad).  Our bot lane was a combined 3/12.  I was 4/1/3 and farmed as well.  There wasn't a player on their team I could kill, even the 8/1 Panth.  The problem is the bot lane had mailed it in.  The Ashe saying the game was "boring".  The Garen was a clueless idiot that was wanting to surrender at the 20 minute mark.   Our Annie wasn't THAT bad and our jungle Karthas was competent. 

Garen: "Let's just give up, I'm feeding too bad"
me:  "It's a 5v4, we WILL win this."

Surrender vote pops up and passes 4/1.

me: "WTF"
entire opposing team: "HAHAHAHAHAH"

Aside from the ragequit Trynd, I think all were queued together. But they weren't that good.   

I've fallen into some sort of normal ELO hell.  I want to queue dodge half of the time during champ select from how dumb and thoughtless the team comps are.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: jakonovski on December 31, 2011, 06:29:53 AM
My personal pet peeve is our friendly vent play group getting bitchy over a bad lol run. Fuckers should be smarter than that. We need coordination, not retardation.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on December 31, 2011, 09:21:59 AM
You all are playing on vent? I never see any of you online in the chat client, should I just hang out on the vent?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on December 31, 2011, 10:42:44 AM
10/5/5 second time as jungle vayne. I think I have a winner.  :drill:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: jakonovski on December 31, 2011, 11:32:57 AM
You all are playing on vent? I never see any of you online in the chat client, should I just hang out on the vent?

This is just a Finnish IRL friend thing.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on December 31, 2011, 02:19:57 PM
10/5/5 second time as jungle vayne. I think I have a winner.  :drill:

Saw Snoopeh run jungle ashe, and I must say it looked pretty fun :)


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on December 31, 2011, 02:40:18 PM
10/5/5 second time as jungle vayne. I think I have a winner.  :drill:

Saw Snoopeh run jungle ashe, and I must say it looked pretty fun :)

Jungle ashe -> all the time in the world to release an arrow to the face ^_^


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on December 31, 2011, 03:41:15 PM
Anybody see Dyrus tear it up as jungle singed (ghost/smite)? You have to have a team which is patient with you just farming and farming for a bit, but once it gets rolling, it's pretty darn scary.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on December 31, 2011, 03:54:49 PM
Anybody see Dyrus tear it up as jungle singed (ghost/smite)? You have to have a team which is patient with you just farming and farming for a bit, but once it gets rolling, it's pretty darn scary.


I'll have to watch one of the replays.  His Singed is always fun. 

Just bought Swain.  Only one game so far, but I did pretty well for my team being bad as always.  Love his kit.  His sustainability is fantastic and his dps is really deceptive.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on December 31, 2011, 04:18:33 PM
When I played Dyrus on "Insert Smurf Here" he was Tryndamere, tried to dive our tower, I put some damage and a slow on him and the tower killed him.

We really should have won the game. We were a lot better than their team (minus Dyrus) but we made some dumb mistakes. They were hanging around Baron and I said "don't go bottom or they will baron." So some people go bottom, they try to Baron and I have to suicide to stop them. I say, again, "don't go bottom or they will Baron", two people on our team immediately go bottom, they baron and win the game off of that. Really frustrating.

It's funny, every time I watch Dyrus stream he gets a pentakill. He almost got a penta on us at the very end of the game but one of our guys hid in our pool lol.

As far as jungle Singed goes, Singed is really hard to play in top lane now, especially if you pick him first. So many champions beat him badly top. Especially now that level 2 junglers can come gank you 45 seconds into the game, it's really hard not to die a couple times. But Singed becomes really strong with levels, even if he doesn't have much farm. Jungling allows you to get at least some farm without dying, and his ganks are good. I might try it, I'm scared to play top lane Singed these days.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on January 01, 2012, 01:40:55 AM
4v5 ARAM game?  No problem, I'll just Soraka carry.  :oh_i_see:



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on January 01, 2012, 01:56:35 AM
Goddamn. Were the people you were playing against limbless puddles of flesh?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Setanta on January 01, 2012, 06:09:52 AM
I finally seem to be breaking out of my losing streak in normal pick pub games - my Sivir as harass has got better after watching replays of others using her. Got paid out at the start of the game for my PAX skin, took an early death but then started using the brush a lot more. Our Fiddlesticks was trying to jungle (badly), Tryn was never around when you need it but Teemo and I held our lane nicely. Mid-game I thought we were done, lost all but our inhibitor turrets but it turns out that their side had some sad players too. In the end it was a case of Sivir's ult pulling down their turrets - in hindsight I should have had teleport to get around the map/backdoor more readily. The rest of the team pulled a baron gank and I pulled turrets and inhibs. It was a good feeling at the end, even though my kills aren't high, I felt like I'd played a good game.

I felt sorry for their Malzahar - he was their best player.


Still learning but having fun at level 23


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: jakonovski on January 01, 2012, 07:12:35 AM
Does anyone know any Shyvana streams, especially if they have jungling? I've been mostly playing Shyv and Volibear lately, and they occupy pretty much the same slot in team composition. However the power level differential is so goddamn huge that I'm starting to doubt if anyone has ever managed to be consistently successful with Shyv.

 


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on January 01, 2012, 09:00:51 AM
4 v 5 in ARAM is actually pretty fair, because the 4 get significantly more XP. For some teams hitting 6 while enemies are all still 5 is a big deal and can snowball you to victory. Having 4 is a lot better than having a fifth who isn't very good. I think I've probably lost more ARAM games 5 v 4 than I have won.

I once won a 3 v 5. It was me as Cass along with a Sona and a Soraka. Basically we just couldn't die and I could poke the shit out of them, until I became strong enough to melt them all. It took a REALLY long time though, like an hour and a half game...


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on January 01, 2012, 11:37:51 AM
4 v 5 in ARAM is actually pretty fair, because the 4 get significantly more XP. For some teams hitting 6 while enemies are all still 5 is a big deal and can snowball you to victory. Having 4 is a lot better than having a fifth who isn't very good. I think I've probably lost more ARAM games 5 v 4 than I have won.

I once won a 3 v 5. It was me as Cass along with a Sona and a Soraka. Basically we just couldn't die and I could poke the shit out of them, until I became strong enough to melt them all. It took a REALLY long time though, like an hour and a half game...

Our team was terrible for 4v5 though, we should not of won.  With Annie/Lux as our only DPS every fight should of been them casting their spells and both being dead before cooldowns are back up.  We had no constant dps, the people we played against were just so impressively terrible.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on January 02, 2012, 02:24:27 AM
Just went 9/1 on Corki. Feels good man. Missile to the face all day long.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on January 02, 2012, 09:34:26 AM
A good Corki is one of my most feared opponents.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on January 02, 2012, 12:52:12 PM
I am HORRIBLE with Shen. Fucktastically terrible. I had one of the worst games of my life last night and the only reason my team won is because we were 5v4. I just apparently had no clue how to play him and only did so because he was free and I wanted to try him out again. 2/16/8? That's wretched. Our team may not have been great, but I was clearly the weak link and apologized to the entire team like 5 minutes in.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on January 03, 2012, 09:55:41 AM
Man, these last couple days have been brutal, lost about 100 elo. I'm not sure if it's because school is out or what but my games are full of people who have no clue.

Example: Their bot lane is Graves / Soraka and I have picked Corki. Our support says "Lux or Leona?" I say that we need a support that can heal. They pick Lux.

5 minutes later we lose our tower and Graves has twice my cs. Just an automatic loss from someone who doesn't understand lane composition at all. Non-healing support can work in a lane you can be aggressive in. However Graves / Soraka is not a lane you can win by being aggressive and not healing. Way too much healing and too much armor, no way to burst them down, no way to win a way of attrition if you can't heal.

Had a game where our mid disconnected every 5 minutes. Had a game where we already had a jungle Udyr and someone picked jungle Gragas. Jungle Gragas! And before you say "it can work" sure, it can, but it sure as hell didn't. Had a game where our jungle Nocturne never gave our mid Kassadin a single blue. Our whole team was begging him to give Kassadin blue, it was basically 4 v 5 as Kass was always OOM and fell far behind in lane as well.

I don't get it. Did the Noct just want to lose and was trolling? Did he really think jungler taking every blue was the best plan? 75% of the junglers I've had on this slide have played like they are trolling. And I don't mean in the typical you are losing the game so blame the jungler way, I mean just crazy shit like a guy who picks jungle Riven, starts at red, can't kill red, needs to recall, goes back to red, I have to come from top to leash it again and put damage on it, and we are both 2 levels behind in the first 2 minutes of the game.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on January 03, 2012, 10:13:32 AM
My last two games have been frustrating affairs with at least one person getting DC'ed really early and it essentially decided the game. If there was anything else they could do to fucking fix it so that a DC gets replaced, even if it's just by a goddamn bot.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on January 03, 2012, 10:49:50 AM
My last two games have been frustrating affairs with at least one person getting DC'ed really early and it essentially decided the game. If there was anything else they could do to fucking fix it so that a DC gets replaced, even if it's just by a goddamn bot.

All a bot is going to do it feed people.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on January 03, 2012, 10:55:04 AM
At least it would be another target they could focus on instead of narrowing down the target choices for the other team.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on January 03, 2012, 11:19:41 AM
This game was so bizarre.  If it wasn't so fucked up from the very start it would have been frustrating as hell.


Champ select mostly goes fine. We don't have a support, but that tends to happen when a massive losing streak starts pairing you with complete retards.  Annie locks in right away with those summoners.

Skarner and Akali (her friends): Go ghost/ignite, Annie.

Repeat that until countdown ends.  Annie is still TP/Surge.

Game starts and they repeat the instruction.  Annie is very confused.  It's apparent at this time that she's a total noob.  

Akali announces that she and Annie will go bottom because Annie is a friend that they're teaching her LoL.  GREAT.  They completely botch Skarner's leash.  

I go top.  Twitch goes top as well.  

me: Go mid, Twitch.

Twitch:  No, Annie should go mid.

me:  She's going bot.  

Twitch: Why?

me: FFS, read chat.  <I go mid, since he obviously isn't.>

Twitch: I don't want a solo lane!

*Anivia kills Twitch*

And ta-da, I get Kogmaw.  This Kogmaw isn't a retard.

me:  I can't lane against a Kogmaw.  

Twitch:  Annie should mid.  

So, I do a lot of poking.  Get some CS and manage to trade some kills.  Twitch isn't staying in lane at all.  At the 25 minute mark he has 19 CS.  Skarner is absolutely going bonkers swearing at him.  Sure, he's wandering around being Twitch, but he's mostly just KSing kills and getting caught and he is completely fucking up any chance we have at winning.  

I'm basically covering both mid and top.  Losing some EXP having to move around so much.  Anivia is top and thank god she wasn't very good. With boots I can dodge her skill shots and orange out of her on hit affect.  Skarner and I abuse her pretty bad, as anytime she's up and at top, we just egg and kill her. Opposing team Twitch gets fed off Annie and Akali.  Nasus is getting a bit scary too, since our Annie pretty much doesn't know how to play at all and our Akali is just bad.  

Luckily, the Skarner is very good and getting fed.  I think I've played with him before because the name is awfully familiar.  I have a few dumb deaths (one chasing Mumu and getting caught by Twitch and one brush facecheck into their entire team), but it's mostly trades or getting focused in team fights.  

So, at the end it comes down to having both Nexus towers down and them not having an inhib down.  We're pushing mid and Twitch engages their entire team OUT OF STEALTH.  Their Nasus pops Shurelia's and I'm the only one that survives.  GG.  They go straight down middle and win it about 2 seconds before the team respawns.  I just can't do enough to prevent it since its' a 5v1, and if I engage, Twitch and Kogmaw will tear through me.

Skarner goes apeshit.  Twitch and him just start swearing back and forth.  Twitch did throw the game, sure, but the buddy combo on the bottom allowed it to even get to that point.  If there was another player on the team that wasn't completely braindead, we would have won easily.  As is, I've noticed you need at least 3 competent players to win.  2 just doesn't cut it.

And yah, NO BOOTS.   :argh:






Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: jakonovski on January 03, 2012, 12:29:10 PM
Meh, I never understood raging at newbies not knowing something. It conjures this image of a trekkie getting all huffy when someone doesn't speak Klingon.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on January 03, 2012, 12:48:54 PM
Meh, I never understood raging at newbies not knowing something. It conjures this image of a trekkie getting all huffy when someone doesn't speak Klingon.

If it makes any difference, I kept quiet during the game.  Most I said was trying to get our lanes sorted out, coordinate pushes, and keep Skarner's blood pressure under control.  The Twitch just never seemed to grasp "they're teaching her how to play, so she's going bot". 

I don't care how new you are, buy some goddamn boots. Akali was lvl 30 btw with around 370 wins.  Annie just didn't really listen to anything anyone said.  It wasn't even anything complex like "save your stun for when I go in" it was more like "use your spells", "buy some boots",  "don't instalock and go afk, james, you needed to select different summoner spells",  "don't wander off alone into their jungle".


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on January 03, 2012, 01:31:54 PM
It always amazes me the amount of people that just apparently don't read anything.  I can't be the only one that frequently sees things like someone at character selected picks a character and says "I'm planning on going top."

Then 30 seconds into the game you have someone say "I'm top or I'm feeding."  Which usually completely destroys your lane comps.

Then when you point out what happened they just say something like they went afk at champ select like it's a normal thing everyone does.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on January 03, 2012, 01:43:06 PM
This game was so bizarre.  If it wasn't so fucked up from the very start it would have been frustrating as hell.

You know, we all say: "Don't play AI games"...but this is when you play AI games.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Dark_MadMax on January 05, 2012, 01:09:47 AM

All a bot is going to do it feed people.

I hate playing bot. I can lane well (e.g. do not feed , not lose cs and get kills if enemy is weak), but most a lot of time its a farm fest and the game decided elsewhere (your top/jungler/mid lose the ball real hard and u screwed no matter what)


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Bann on January 05, 2012, 08:18:22 AM
I've mostly been playing AP Sion lately. Anytime I can solo top, or mid against the right matchup, its usually pretty awesome. The first 5  minutes can be rough, but once you can start clearing the casters with your shield things really start to pickup. The last few days I've been giving AD Sion a go. Last night was the first time everything clicked. Late game AD Sion feels broken OP. I ended up with Berserker boots, Double Phantom Dancer, IE, a lantern, and that axe that reduces enemy armor. I was doing things like soloing baron and winning 3v1 fights. Quite fun.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on January 05, 2012, 09:00:40 AM
Really getting into the groove with Ahri now.  Her taunt/charm is I think one of the best "you are fucked if you get hit with this" moves in the game. Just gotta keep remembering to stick and move!

Right now though I'm wondering if I should even bother with raft or ranked play, I njoy how fast blind pick is but god damn am I sick of people insta-locking and calling mid immediately after.  Seriously people, being fed means jack shit if you are not a good enough player to take advantage of it and 9/10 these people are not.

Last night game starts, we get an inta-lock ahri shouting mid. I make some comments but I grab sona as my goto, I actually don't play her as much because it's my winning character and just feels like cheating sometimes. So my team is as follows...

top:panth/garen
mid:ahri/vlad
jung:lee/lee
bot:sona/shaco-ashe/soraka

now, a shaco bot is already a little ??? but whatever.  Game starts off to a winning start with shaco being completely afk, leaving me to bot alone.  I have my mastery/runes set up for complete support and I already picked heal as my first spell, awesome!  Then, instead of leashing blue, our instalock ahri just sits there and takes the blue from our lee.

at this point im up against ashe and soraka solo, asking anyone to come bot with me, getting the exp is nice but I am getting constantly harassed.  Shaco still afk and by the time I lose bot tower, our ahri has died four times in mid to their vlad, each time citing "lag" as the reason.

With my first tower gone or lee is a decent level 6-7 and it's actually a lot easier for me to farm since ashe/soraka have decided to abandon bot entirely which is pants on head dumb when you consider we are a man down and they'd only have to deal with a sona.  So I think "fuck it, im farming like it's 1999!" which works out pretty damn well with lee coming down o help harass.  They had a lee of their own bt looks like ours is the superior one as he and I clean up at least three kills bot lane.

Now I've got a decent set of items rolling, an aegis and level 10 under my belt.  Our ahri isnt dying but she's not really doing jack either, anth dies to at least two missed mia mid calls so I decide to play princess leia and say "Lee sin you're our only hope!" and I flat out tell him "lee, I'm sticking to you like glue."  and boy howdy does it work out like a charm.  My aura's and his general badassary start racking up the kills for us and we're actually pushing in a 4v5 game. 

About this time out shaco actually comes back and let me tell you, seeing a level 3 shaco try and mid 20min into a game is HI-larious. They don't seem to be working well as a team though and even while our ahri is fluff and our shaco is underfed by a mile, lee/panth and I start ruining their. After a 3v5 teamfight in which we almost ace them, their garen and soraka proceed to ragequit.

Match is pretty much over now since it 5v3 but in our favor now, overall we shouldn't have won it but we did.  Level 10 shaco MVP


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on January 05, 2012, 09:38:44 AM
I have had the shittiest string of bad games/bad teams lately. Either I'm playing horribly because I'm 1) not familiar with the character and fat-fingering everything or 2) am paired with a complete muppet in lane or 3) against a pro who is just wearing out my asshole like it's the last whore in a shore leave or 4) we are down to 4v5 and our team sucks to begin with. Just horrible horrible games where I'm ready to reach through the monitor and throttle somebody. Two of those games have been as Morgana where I just started feeding early and never recovered. In one of those games, I swear I wanted to fucking murder someone. I get paired top lane with a Wukong who is level 19 and says "This is my first PVP game".

 :facepalm: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh:

How do you play enough games to hit level 19 and NOT PVP ever? He proceeds to disappear for long stretches while both of us get absolutely owned by a Garen who ends the game with like 30/2/something or other. I swear nothing I did ever managed to even dent the guy. Our Brand goes mid and spends the whole game berating me for sucking and despite all my deaths (12 in all I think), he has less kills and assists than me MID FUCKING LANE. The whole team is just a disorganized cluster fuck as our bot lane guys just abandon the lane completely around level 8 or 9 to go get killed repeatedly in mid lane. It was fucking godawful. I certainly didn't help with all my deaths, but it was just a brutal, frustrating game experience.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on January 05, 2012, 09:53:29 AM
So I didn't get to play for like 5 days and I realized I had no interest in playing at all anymore.  Oh well, it had a good run.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on January 05, 2012, 10:00:44 AM
I have had the shittiest string of bad games/bad teams lately. Either I'm playing horribly because I'm 1) not familiar with the character and fat-fingering everything or 2) am paired with a complete muppet in lane or 3) against a pro who is just wearing out my asshole like it's the last whore in a shore leave or 4) we are down to 4v5 and our team sucks to begin with. Just horrible horrible games where I'm ready to reach through the monitor and throttle somebody. Two of those games have been as Morgana where I just started feeding early and never recovered. In one of those games, I swear I wanted to fucking murder someone. I get paired top lane with a Wukong who is level 19 and says "This is my first PVP game".

 :facepalm: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh:

How do you play enough games to hit level 19 and NOT PVP ever? He proceeds to disappear for long stretches while both of us get absolutely owned by a Garen who ends the game with like 30/2/something or other. I swear nothing I did ever managed to even dent the guy. Our Brand goes mid and spends the whole game berating me for sucking and despite all my deaths (12 in all I think), he has less kills and assists than me MID FUCKING LANE. The whole team is just a disorganized cluster fuck as our bot lane guys just abandon the lane completely around level 8 or 9 to go get killed repeatedly in mid lane. It was fucking godawful. I certainly didn't help with all my deaths, but it was just a brutal, frustrating game experience.


That's too bad, because at level 6 with Wukong and Morgana you should have a guaranteed kill every time your ults are up.

There's something about Gragas that makes me fat finger the hell out of his abilities.  HIT E! Nope, there goes my barrel.  Barrel time! Nope that's an E.  My team fights look like an AI with a glitch in its code.  Still, first game in a long time as the fat man and I do OK.  I don't die at all to mid and farm up really well as always.  Team was stomping, and I actually helped our hyper aggressive Win Xhao escape a few times with a proper ulti (after E'ing first /ffs).   Rest of the team couldn't wait to die to Swain after I downed the tower.   Don't know why people think Swain won't kill them.  Just need to get your two dots on them, ignite and crows will mop up.

My next game was pretty funny.  Apparently an 0/9 Cho'gath was only getting owned by my GP due to lag.  Still, if he had actually finished me off with his lvl 6 q,w,r combo instead of me flashing out, the lane could have gone a bit differently.  As is, another slump busty/tard stomp as GP.   Had a rather awesome play where our badass Soraka (she FB'd them and went 7/4) was getting 3 v 1'd far into bot lane.  I throw down my ult over the area.  Soraka kills one, kills another as I tp in, and a 10% health Soraka and I finish off the near full health Cho.  I got a double kill that game just off my ulti as I was farming up top.

I should probably use this time post slump to work on other heroes, so Udyr (once bought) will get worked in with Swain instead of just climbing back up as usual with only GP.  Maybe some Trynd/Garen too, but I'm just not good with them for whatever reason.  Still, it's very temping just to carry hard with GP and get my hidden ELO back up to where over half the team is completely retarded.  It's like the only do ELO calcs for normals every 2 weeks.  I get so damn streaky.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on January 05, 2012, 12:00:06 PM
The problem is, once you start getting 30s in your game, you get a lot of people who use Normal games for just messing around.






Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on January 05, 2012, 01:26:42 PM
I've actually had a bunch of fun recently with just hanging out in reddit chat and getting random custom games: everybody's a lot more easy going.

Also, yeah, I'm not actually very good with her, but Ahri is a lot of fun. Definitely a good champ to learn how to kite on, and I just heart champs with escapes, so Ahri gets a  :heart: :heart: :heart:.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Setanta on January 05, 2012, 03:26:24 PM
Ahri is a lot of fun, especially if you have an idiott that lets you charm them onto a tower. I picked up Veigar for something different and without actually knowing a thing about him, proceeded to pick up my highest result ever. Event horizon can be brutal if people write you off. At one stage I had 3 enemy tower dive me at level 9 only to EH and then proceed to assist the tower. I may have to play him a bit more.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: pxib on January 05, 2012, 04:06:00 PM
With a bad enough enemy team I've twice gotten Veigar to more than 1000AP. Do not feed.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Flinky on January 06, 2012, 06:10:15 AM
Meh, I never understood raging at newbies not knowing something. It conjures this image of a trekkie getting all huffy when someone doesn't speak Klingon.

The one I don't understand is people assuming everyone speaks the same language. Then attacking them when they don't understand.

Player: teemo cout
Teemo: What?
Player: cout teemo cout
Teemo: I'm sorry, what are you saying?
Player: Teemo noob


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Xuri on January 06, 2012, 08:16:56 AM
I've got one account at lvl 30 and one at lvl 29, and this is the first time I've heard of that (cout). No idea what it means. I guess I should look it up or something.

Played my first pvp-game as Graves this morning (after a bunch of coop-vs-ai games) and ended up in bottom lane along with Alistar (Sona top, lee jungle, Swain mid). He proceeded to feed me both minions and enemy players to the point where I had 6 kills while no one else had more than 1. I kinda failed to carry on from there on, though, so the game leveled out and could have gone either way. We won after a counter-attack in the end, though - final stats for me being 12/3/11, which I think isn't too shabby for the first real game with this champ (though I got fed, so.. *shrug*).


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on January 06, 2012, 12:02:25 PM
I swear, some players have absolutely no clue about relative power levels at certain points in the game.   This Ahri didn't realize that a very farmed, very fed Trynd (was like 10/2 with more CS than anyone) with his ult will fucking destroy us 1 v 2 if we engage that far from the tower.  Especially when neither of us has our ult and she's at half health.   I was more farmed than she was, but that wasn't saying a whole lot.  That Trynd finished with almost 50% more gold than anyone (yay, botlane).

"2v1 and GP runs away. I love randoms."   :roll:   Plus we had no vision, but people never bait.   :oh_i_see:

I'm getting a lot of level 30 guys in games that think they're way better than they actually are.   They're always babysitting a friend or friends that are new to the game.   They always come in super confident, bossing you around, and moving the lanes to their liking.  They're mostly average, their friend feeds hard, and they don't ever want to surrender even though the game is giving you physical pain.

A recent game where I was playing Swain, had me teamed with a friend group of Maoki, Xin, Shaco (jungle), Cait.   I finished like 8/7/x.  "Do you have a skin for Swain" "No" "Ohh, bummer" "what?" "you'll see".  Sure enough, they all had skins for their champs.  Resistance Cait, Tiki looking Maoki, Asylum Shaco, Viscero Xin.  At first I thought I got lucky and this would be an easy win, but I knew rather quickly things were going to be bad when the Shaco tried to gank early (I was mid v. Brand).  He just completely botched it.  Ran up out of stealth, deceived no where near the Brand, ran off in an odd direction, dropped a box, shivved and then just died to the Brand that must have been laughing his ass off.  I killed the Brand a little later, but there was no way to help that Shaco.  He did this all of the time.  He would rarely even melee anyone.

The Shaco was the friend they were helping.  He went 2/17 and was level 11 when I hit 18.  He was doing so badly the enemy Noct was giving him tips during the game and offered to help him out afterwards. Everyone else was completely average and no one had a positive score.  They fed the hell out of the enemy Nocturne, who had free reign over both jungles.   Just terrible game that I could have done rather well in, but once the Nocturne realized I was the only one killing him, he was on my ass the rest of the game.  Always fun being the one that's focused.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on January 06, 2012, 01:49:26 PM
If you got scrub problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 problems but elo hell ain't one! :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on January 06, 2012, 01:56:51 PM
That actually made me chuckle.  At least the Nocturne approved of my skills.   I think it was the first friend request I've gotten in quite a few levels.  I have a host of people on my friends list from 1-20 that I have only a vague idea of who they are.  

And I'm generally well mannered in games, I don't trade barbs with my team or snipe.   I think "play more cautiously" or "you need more farm" is about as negative as I usually get.  I think at worst I've said "I don't think I deserve criticism from someone's that 0/9." or "how many times has that Panth double killed you two now?" (it was 5).

This is my outlet for frustration.  Perhaps I should just blog/radicalthon this nonsense.  Might be fun and actually possible since I usually end my games at least a half an hour before I crash.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on January 06, 2012, 02:04:09 PM
I'm waiting for someone to start a low elo blog. It will be lol worthy.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on January 06, 2012, 02:12:13 PM
It might be fun actually recording and commentating on one of my own matches. 

"Yah, missed every single CS there."
"No idea why I thought I could win that." 
"Yep, completely forgot where my champ was during that entire fight." 
"Apparently I didn't realize I had flash up."
"I won that fight because that guy just stood there and let me beat on him.  Might have been AFK.  I hope he was."


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on January 08, 2012, 11:34:47 AM
Just played a ranked game where a guy on their team disconnected and my team didn't take the game seriously. (Can you guess what happens later?)

Even though we are playing a 5 v 4 game we are behind on kills and I am fighting 1 v 2 bottom Trist vs Ez / Soraka, because for some reason Janna is just running all around the map and nobody else will come bottom. So I manage to lose bot tower in a 5 v 4 game. Then their guy who was gone comes back (did you guess that would happen?) They have Moakai, Ez, Soraka, Karthus and Xerath and our Morde has built no defense of any kind so there is no way he can do anything. Half the time he dies before he can even activate ult. We manage to get an inhib and Baron while their Moakai who missed a lot of the game is low level, then get aced, then get practically aced again.

Then our GP disconnects.

So at this point everyone on both teams is super farmed. (Ez had 600 CS by end of game 600! and 30k gold. 30k!, Karthus had 2 Archangels staffs...) We have two of their inhibs down, but it is now 5v4 in their favor. We then spend the next 10 minutes slowly pushing along with our super minions, trying to poke and thin out their minions and very slowly win the game. (Thank god I'm Trist!) We get their Nexus down to about 20% health then we get practically aced again. (I think Janna lived) Then we slow push behind the minions again for another 10 minutes. Like I hit one person on their team with one shot, back off, heal off a minion, kill one of their minions, try to hit the Nexus once, run away - it's like performing surgery. The whole time in chat I am saying "don't fight just slow push and let me peck at them." Eventually we grind it out and win.

It was the kind of game that both teams deserved to lose. But it sure feels good to be the winner...playing 64 minutes and losing a game that was 5v4 in our favor for the first 25 minutes (but 5v4 in their favor for the last 25) would have been brutal.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on January 09, 2012, 12:36:27 AM
Ohh god, just had an enemy Soraka pull a "DAT BUILD" on me.. for essentially having the same build.  Only real diff is that they had mobility boots and I had merc treads.  And they had a Soul Shroud and I didn't (had a negatron cape).  Other than that.. Shurelia's, Randuin, Aegis. But apparently my build was awful lacking the 10% cdr they had on me.  And our endgame stats/gold, virtually the same.
 
Post game others thought she was commenting on how similar.. nope, dead serious.  I R BIG NOOB FOR NOT HAVING THE CDR ON SOUL SHROUD.  I never see that built on Soraka.   :|

Fucking weirdos.

edit: on a positive note, Udyr is a lot of fun.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on January 09, 2012, 01:14:11 AM
CDR on Soraka is good. Mobility boots is pretty wacky though.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on January 09, 2012, 01:17:46 AM
Yah, I should have Ionian boots, I usually do. Mainly got mercs because Sion kept focusing me and I was taking poke damage from AP Kogmaw (annoying).  But it wasn't like I was building death cap, malady or something odd.  

Game was odd anyhow.  Our Brand died in like 3 hits. Every team fight was a 5v4.  Plus our Lee Sin was retarded.  Kept talking shit to our Sivir, who was wrecking face hard.  She was pretty much our only damage in team fights (top was a tank build Singed).

Ohh well, everyone instalocked quicker than I did.  Next time I'll just support-plank and carry.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on January 09, 2012, 08:37:26 AM
Yeah, I almost never build Soul Shroud on Soraka: given a fairly standard support masteries page, you should be getting 10% CDR from masteries, 15% from shurelia's, and 15% from ionian, so you're capped there.

But, you should always be capping your CDR on Soraka somehow.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on January 09, 2012, 09:01:06 AM
Tough room.  You guys would have "DAT SORAKA BUILD"ed too!

So, what marks on a lanedyr?  Don't have a lot of runepages, so I going to just use my generic ad top laner page of arpen marks, armor seals, mr glyphs and movespeed (should I change this to health?) quints.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on January 09, 2012, 09:17:06 AM
I think I've actually been doing AP runes for Udyr - though I wouldn't necessarily call my performances hallmark.  :awesome_for_real: He seems like one of those types you could do a hybrid runes/Triforce build with tanky masteries for and do well.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on January 09, 2012, 02:01:05 PM
I don't recommend doing AP for Udyr at all except for a Triforce.

You just don't gain enough from it. I've played hundreds of games as jungle Udyr. Even as phoenix Udyr, I think you gain more from attack speed helping you get that proc than getting AP. Lane Udyr is tiger focused, from what I've seen and heard. I just always thought him as too good of a jungler to use up top. He is good top too, don't get me wrong.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on January 09, 2012, 02:05:20 PM
Tough room.  You guys would have "DAT SORAKA BUILD"ed too!

So, what marks on a lanedyr?  Don't have a lot of runepages, so I going to just use my generic ad top laner page of arpen marks, armor seals, mr glyphs and movespeed (should I change this to health?) quints.

AS marks are useful in a bunch of places: next time you have some IP to spend, get a full page of those.
Movespeed. No question.

Also, yeah, no AP, regardless of Tiger/Phoenix status.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on January 09, 2012, 03:12:38 PM
I don't recommend doing AP for Udyr at all except for a Triforce.

You just don't gain enough from it. I've played hundreds of games as jungle Udyr. Even as phoenix Udyr, I think you gain more from attack speed helping you get that proc than getting AP. Lane Udyr is tiger focused, from what I've seen and heard. I just always thought him as too good of a jungler to use up top. He is good top too, don't get me wrong.

Turtle first for sustain and then tiger.  Is what I've read, and it works fairly well from first impressions.  Get a point in bear stance early.  Tiger stance is awesome and with bear stance, no one gets away.  Plus, you're just hard as hell to kill with turtle and bear.

Cloth 5 or boots 3 to start. Wriggles for even more sustain.  Boots depend on matchup (probably mercs).  Triforce is recommended with getting a phage first.  Then just build based on what the game's turning out to be. Attack speed, tanky items, and AD. 



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rokal on January 11, 2012, 11:47:41 AM
So I didn't get to play for like 5 days and I realized I had no interest in playing at all anymore.  Oh well, it had a good run.

My interest in the game ebbs and flows, and has since the game launched. I haven't played the game in a couple months, but the nice thing is that if/when I do decide to check it out again, there will be a bunch of new characters to try out. Characters I previously played will probably have seen positive changes as well.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on January 11, 2012, 12:25:05 PM
Joined a 3v3 Summoner's Rift ARAM game recently (seems like a good idea). 

End up as -

Olaf (me), Shaco, Caitlyn  VS  Graves, Luxe, Tristana

Cait disconnected before minions spawn and doesn't come back.  Shaco and I decide to win anyways and crush the other team the entire game.  :awesome_for_real:  (Yes, I'm aware it was likely due almost entirely to our 2v3 level advantage, but it still felt like a great win.)


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on January 11, 2012, 12:57:54 PM
I think I just suck monkey ass at Udyr. It seems like no matter what I do, I can't stand up to any attack whatsoever. Early game and late game I am just fucking worm on a hook. Mid-game I seem to get a few kills but the rest of the time, I can't survive shit and can't do enough damage to win in a 1v1. I may have to come back to him later just to preserve my fragile ego.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on January 11, 2012, 01:12:35 PM
The answer: Udyr's tough to play.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on January 11, 2012, 01:12:38 PM
I picked Udry a couple games ago.   We have someone queue up with smite, so, yay a jungler.  Yet, after I lock they pick new summoners and I've got a dual lane.  I. DON'T. JUNGLE.

"Udyr, why aren't you jungling"

me: "I picked flash/TP, I thought it'd be pretty obvious I'm not jungling"

"But Udyr is great at jungling, you don't need smite."  "Yah, Udyr is great."

me: "I don't jungle.  I'm not good at it and I don't like to."

"Fine then"  More whining ensures.  I probably should have just said "OK, whatever, I'll jungle", but I just do not like jungling and I never do it.

The jungle Mumu on the other team is REALLY good. He just would have made me look silly.   We got a 2v1 against a Jarvan that just plays passive and waits for ganks.  The Jax in my lane was god awful.  

After bot lost their lane really badly, I just start jungling anyways because we need someone roaming to take the pressure off mid.  It's fast enough with tiger, but not great.   I finish something like 3/3/3.  Completely average play, even though right now I'm just kind of clueless with Udyr.  And oddly enough, I'm really good with him in team fights but really awful laning. Mostly the opposite of what I do with anyone else.  I was the only person to finish with more than 1 kill.  :uhrr:

I should probably just toughen up and jungle some, but I don't like taking shit from people in this game.  And if you lead with, "Ok, I don't jungle a lot, be patient", you're going to take the blame for the loss and listen to bickering the entire fucking time from assholes that make your job impossible.

edit:

Had games last night where I went 8/1/x and 15/6/x (with a 10 kill streak).   1 win, 1 loss.  One where I'd say I played really well, and one where I'd say I actually played poorly despite carrying.  One not so ideal lane, one ideal lane.   Just funny how it works out. 


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on January 11, 2012, 01:46:33 PM
I love the nuances of jungling.

That being said, I understand people not wanting to play it. I'd rather get poked in the eye than play AD carry. I just suck ass at it.


One of the key things with Udyr is not being afraid to use your flash offensively. This may be more useful information when you are jungling and have red buff. In team fights I basically bull rush carries with Bear while soaking up mad damage and burning/stunning fuckers on my way through. Phoenix and sunfire cape adds up.

Top Udyr...shit man I'm yawning just thinking about it :) Top anything is kinda boring these days.

BTW guys, my jungle Cho is pretty solid now. No really guys. It is. No more bad malady build :)


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on January 11, 2012, 02:13:20 PM
Using Wit's End instead?  :grin:

Top lane for me is pretty much just GP.  Other shit right now is too easily countered at random when you play blind.  I don't have other tops like Kennen, Rumble or Riven (none whom I have played) that are pretty safe picks.  I'm sure it's also a bit hard to lose as Yorick.  Q, farm, Q, farm.  Avoid gank.  Q, farm.  Ult, free assist.  Q, farm, Q.   If one of those early Qs crits, hey, free kill!

However, right now I'm in the retard elo of no-one-wants-to-jungle so it's rare you can get a solo top.  Or if you do, someone locked that shit before you even loaded champ selection.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on January 11, 2012, 02:31:10 PM
One of the key things with Udyr is not being afraid to use your flash offensively.

That's actually been the way I've gotten a few kills.

Quote
This may be more useful information when you are jungling and have red buff. In team fights I basically bull rush carries with Bear while soaking up mad damage and burning/stunning fuckers on my way through. Phoenix and sunfire cape adds up.

In team fights, I can't seem to soak up shit. I feel like a paper tiger, especially if I rush in - I'm focusfucked to death in an instant. I've found I get a negative K/D, though I have at least twice as many assists as kills. I mean, I've been getting him up to over 3k hit points and still don't feel like I can withstand anyone. Akali in particular just mulchs me.

I think I've been doing it wrong, as I've tended to lead with the Bear stun, then switch to tiger. Suddenly, the target is running away and able to escape.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Chimpy on January 11, 2012, 03:05:45 PM
BTW guys, my jungle Cho is pretty solid now. No really guys. It is. No more bad malady build :)

:facepalm:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: DLRiley on January 11, 2012, 03:12:49 PM
One of the key things with Udyr is not being afraid to use your flash offensively.

That's actually been the way I've gotten a few kills.

Quote
This may be more useful information when you are jungling and have red buff. In team fights I basically bull rush carries with Bear while soaking up mad damage and burning/stunning fuckers on my way through. Phoenix and sunfire cape adds up.

In team fights, I can't seem to soak up shit. I feel like a paper tiger, especially if I rush in - I'm focusfucked to death in an instant. I've found I get a negative K/D, though I have at least twice as many assists as kills. I mean, I've been getting him up to over 3k hit points and still don't feel like I can withstand anyone. Akali in particular just mulchs me.

I think I've been doing it wrong, as I've tended to lead with the Bear stun, then switch to tiger. Suddenly, the target is running away and able to escape.

Madreds, atmas only damage items you really need. Hell anything less expensive with madreds like wits end, instantly gibs carries.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ice Cream Emperor on January 11, 2012, 06:07:58 PM
I should probably just toughen up and jungle some, but I don't like taking shit from people in this game.  And if you lead with, "Ok, I don't jungle a lot, be patient", you're going to take the blame for the loss and listen to bickering the entire fucking time from assholes that make your job impossible.

And this is why a shitty community makes for shitty gameplay, as a rule. By the time you play enough to realise there are things you should be learning how to do, the tolerance of other players for someone learning to do something approaches zero.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on January 12, 2012, 10:12:03 AM
Benn so long since I played tiger I won't be much help to ya. Shield, bear, tiger. Shield - Basically you are having the problem I had with tiger builds. It's fun to obliterate people with a DPS build but you just get raped in team fights. Phoenix tank is opposite, you hope they are dumb enough to target you and you still get to do solid damage and stun fuckers. Also, dodge removal doesn't help.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on January 12, 2012, 10:31:03 AM
Udyr top lane is not about being a kill lane: it's about being unmovable, just getting your farm  and knocking down their tower.

So really, it's all about what gets you the last hits, (and after that, keeps them from last hitting).

So while guides might be telling you to max Tiger by 9, if you're having trouble with survivability, just put more points into turtle earlier. One point in Tiger at 1, One point in Bear at 4, and the rest is up to you.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on January 15, 2012, 01:18:25 AM
I thought my luck was turning around but...


GUESS NOT.

Game turned when we were doing Baron and Lux wanders off with him nearly dead to go farm creeps up top.  Their team rolls in, steals, and then manages to kill just me as I take Teemo, Annie, and Soraka to near dead but die because my entire team fled like a bunch of morons.  Would have probably aced them.

They were all just.. awful.  I could go until detail but it might just be easier to copy/paste something I've said previously. Always chasing.  Why all of the chasing.  Fucking teams.  :argh:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Chimpy on January 15, 2012, 08:22:51 AM
Wtf kind of build is that lux using?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on January 15, 2012, 05:50:53 PM
A horrible one (though I admit to theorycrafting an AD Lux).


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Chimpy on January 15, 2012, 06:39:15 PM
A horrible one (though I admit to theorycrafting an AD Lux).

Yeah, but you theorycraft crazy shit all the time.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on January 24, 2012, 12:39:21 AM
Just had a game that went 49 minutes featuring our Sivir going for a penta and a quadra (that would have been another penta if Morg didn't make it back up the starting ramp).  Enemy Rumble had a quadra as well.  Ended up playing a tankplank or "assistplank" as they called me because our Cho'gath was pretty useless (had 3k gold less than our support Lux). And in a draft game.. we had no jungler.  Luckily they just had a bad Leona jungle that couldn't do anything.  Once we got shit together and started grouping for team fights, we started winning.   That Rumble that was rolling early, didn't build for damage, so he fell off bad at the end.

No one wants to jungle in draft normals either.   :|  I'm not finding the quality of player better in draft, but I'm finding the communication marginally better. Still a small sample size, but I think I'll continue.  Bottom pick is getting annoying, however.  

edit:

Game previous had a Brazilian semi-rage in select and then DC during loading.  Then our TF gets destroyed and leaves 15 minutes in.   :uhrr:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on January 25, 2012, 12:50:10 PM
Just hit 30.  Decided to hit up the Tribunal.   :ye_gods:  I think I've only hit pardon twice, and I was trying to give the person the benefit of the doubt.

The worst are the guys that are carrying, winning, and still making the game absolutely miserable for everyone.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on January 25, 2012, 01:09:46 PM
My game of lunch today was just rage inducing. I played Annie, and continued my streak of sucking horribly no matter what champion I pick in SR. Dominion I'm doing decent in. Go figure. I go top because we have a Teemo and he seems willing to take mid. Graves and someone else goes bottom - Caitlyn I think? Vladimir doesn't come out of the spawn point when we start. He spends most of the early game fucking about the map doing I have no idea what. Meanwhile, I get laned hard and killed by a Teemo/Alistar combo and the Alistar was pretty good. Vlad finally comes in lane, but doesn't seem to be doing much in the way of supporting when I poke. I die more times than I should. The Graves was bad, but what really got me was the Teemo. I'm trying to get my last hitting working and doing ok at it. I keep checking the CS and see our Teemo (who was mid btw) has like 12 when I'm in the 30's or 40's. He never gets more. He spends the remainder of the game wandering around the map trying to get ganks and falling way behind in levels. We were up 5 to 4 as their Warwick discoed early. Right at the 20 minute mark, someone calls a surrender vote, which I vote against because it isn't lost yet. I manage to get 1 tower down but we are just getting slaughtered because our Graves is bad, our Teemo is underleveled and a complete fucking moron and I can't last long enough to carry anything. Finally, someone called a second surrender vote and I went with it. Just an execrable team at every level.

My CS was ok, though.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on January 26, 2012, 01:06:54 PM
Frustrating lunch game again. I picked Sona because we didn't have any supports. I was a bit worried when there were no AD champs or tanks chosen, until the last minute when someone chose a Trynd. Roster was Sona, Trynd, Ryze, Miss Fortune and Yi. I'm thinking this could be a good matchup. Send MF or Ryze mid, match me up bot with Trynd and have Yi jungle or go with MF top. Or switch the lanes, either way it could be good, right? Nope. Ryze informs everyone that MF is new and his friend, so they are going to bot lane together - this is after I've taken a spot on the bot lane and have to walk all the way across the board to go top when I gracefully gave way to the pair of fucking morons. That leaves Trynd as our mid. To his credit, he did pretty well against a Vlad - in fact, he was the ONLY good thing on our team. I'm matched top lane with the Yi against an Annie/Xin Zhao pairing. I'm not too worried about this.

Then the Yi proceeds to sit back and do almost nothing. This was the least aggressive Yi I've ever seen. Many times we would have a poke advantage, have either or both of the champs low on health and he would either retreat or just sit off in relative comfort. He hardly ever initiated anything, hardly ever pushed and ended up with 3/11 or some shit like that. As a Sona, I did manage one kill and 11 assists so but 11 deaths, which considering how fed the Xin got was probably not that bad off. The enemy team's Sivir spent the whole game discoing, which meant the Ryze/MF combo in bottom lane only had Olaf to deal with most of the time. They bragged the whole game about how they were WRECKING down low (that was their exact words) - each ended the game with 2 fucking kills a piece. And they never destroyed a turret and were the first to lose a turret. And never shouted MIA, which caused me and Yi to get double ganked as their Olaf wandered into a 2v2 where his team was at a disadvantage and turned it into a win. The game was over quick, even with the goddamn Sivir being gone most of the game. Seriously, we couldn't even win 5v4.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on January 26, 2012, 01:14:07 PM
Too be fair to the Yi, if he initiates or even really last hits against a Annie/Xin, he's dead.  Provided they aren't morons.    It'd have to come down to you getting a poke advantage without Annie wrecking your face anytime her stun was up, and then being able to zone from there.

You're actually really AD heavy.  AP Yi really doesn't work and MF, even with some AP scaling, is really only built AD.   You probably would have been the best choice for mid.  With a tear and catalyst, you could probably sustain well enough against Vlad.

Draft normal is working out really well as far as wins and losses go.  Even had a game where I played somewhat badly as GP, (2/3/6 and just had some brain farts), but ended up being an easy game.  Laned against a Volibear that basically just stood in the creeps and auto-attack pushed to tower.  If I got close, he just flung, slowed and pulled his dumbass execute on me.  So, I had to save my Parrrley to last hit. Still ended up with a decent early CS advantage since just autoattacking without any items won't get you a lot of last hits.  Then it got easy, because Volibear in mid game is just about as useless as it gets.  Our other lanes won pretty hard.

And I finally got to not be last pick a couple of times.  Still ended up support in one, which is fine.

edit:  Could also just be RNG being nice to me.  I imagine I'll get 15 wins over .500 and then go on another epic losing streak where I kick ass and get screwed because I hit the magic number of morons on my team (3). 


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: jakonovski on January 26, 2012, 05:51:40 PM
Ho ho ho, I just tried AP Kog for the first time after like 50 games of AD Kog. AP farms like a motherfucker and with RoA and Archangel's he can bombard the fuck out of anything and everything.  I'm in love.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on January 26, 2012, 06:07:41 PM
Ho ho ho, I just tried AP Kog for the first time after like 50 games of AD Kog. AP farms like a motherfucker and with RoA and Archangel's he can bombard the fuck out of anything and everything.  I'm in love.

I had a similar revelation with Udyr. Tiger Udyr's a bitch now.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on January 27, 2012, 09:59:14 AM
Man, so many trolls last night.  I think I almost reported a player per game. 

After getting trolled in champ select (some kid was non-stop spamming us) and then taking the bullet for my team and queue dodging; I went to try Vlad on my smurf account.  So, naturally, I get paired with a Mundo for top lane against a MF and Trist.  HEY, two champs that have healing debuffs.  Fantastic. So what does Mundo do? Last hit creeps in melee range and then bitch at me when he dies.  Vlad wasn't harassing enough? Well, they weren't at half health from all of the cleavers he missed.  So, we're basically winning because our Kat is destroying them.  We get an inhib and baron while Mundo sits in bottom lane (he didn't want to lane with me anymore) and gets caught.  So, we're all low, inhib is down, and need to buy; so we b.  Mundo goes apeshit calling us bads and whatever.  So, he says "fuck you all, I'm staying in the jungle for the rest of the game".  And that he did, did not do another single team fight while berating us the entire time.  So we eventually lose, with this fucking Mundo trolling the entire time.

Then the was the Riven on my team that bitched constantly about how bad everyone was after getting caught after a team fight when we were going to dragon.   Hey, there's a billion pings on dragon and we're all running to dragon and your turn on 3 of them?  OK, kid. Enjoy your temper tantrum.  Yes, we're all bads; you still initiated against 3 people when you team wasn't even on the same screen. 

Two Sona and 1 Soraka game (two times as 3rd pick, put top/mid taken first every time), every game my lane partner couldn't CS worth a damn and the jungler was awful.  1 jungle cho'gath that 30 minutes in says "I have no idea how to play this spec".   1 Gangplank that was so bad that everyone told him to get out of their lane when he'd "help".  Guy was just awful, but the laners' attitudes didn't help.  And a Mumu.  Unless you're a badass, he sucks balls.  Did not land a bandage the entire game.

Frustrating night to say the least.  Fucking RNG. 





Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Phry on January 27, 2012, 05:21:20 PM
When are ya'll playing? i never see you on!


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on January 27, 2012, 05:22:31 PM
Anywhere between 9:30 PM and 12:30 AM MST.  Usually get in a couple games.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on January 27, 2012, 05:22:56 PM
What is your in-game name? I am missing a lot of people on my friend's list. (I am "Bleargh")


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Phry on January 27, 2012, 05:50:06 PM
ascottegr


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: jakonovski on January 29, 2012, 05:29:32 AM
From a random in a recent game:

"OMG fed Vayne"
"OMG y u buy armor u noob" (has the exact same piece of armor on his champ)


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on January 30, 2012, 12:02:53 AM
I am really out of practice and bad with Morg now. Just played a game where I got destroyed mid by Vlad and he started trash talking me in all chat. Then we ended up crushing them and in the last couple fights I got some great ults and got the kill on him.

Satisfying! Nothing quite like beating a team who is trash talking most of the game.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on January 30, 2012, 12:56:42 AM
Just had an interesting game where I ended up laning top as GP v. Karthus.  I'm last pick, but it seems like my team is on board with giving me top.  I've been fortunate that my last 3 draft games have ended up with me getting top or mid and rewarding that confidence with solid games.  The other team's first 3 picks are Maokai, Karthus and Brand.  In retrospect, I probably should have laned Kennen since I had a feeling they'd send Karth top.  Team thought it'd be Mao top with jungle Karth, but that was dispelled upon loading.

The Karth wasn't bad as he was last hitting well enough to be able spam Qs all day long.  Team was solid with our jungle Udyr playing very well and our mid Cass bullying Brand.   I died once around 7 to a dive with Maokai and Karth, but that was it.  Team could tell I wasn't having fun as I rushed merc treads due to having to dodge Qs constantly.  Bottom was holding their own and pushing with Sona/Sivir.  Since everything was secure, Cass and Udyr just started bullying Karth and taking advantage of his immobility.  Then if Maokai or Brand came to help, we'd turn on them.  

Karth: "How many of you need to help GP out?"  After one gank on him.  

So, next time, the gank consisted of the entire team.  He exploded instantly.  VERY HUMOROUS.

me: "That many."  

Surrender was 5 minutes away. Total squash as we went 21/5/31 to their 5/21/4.  Karth went 3/4/0 to my 7/1/8.  We talked/pinged/helped a lot.  It's really nice in draft when your team works together.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on February 02, 2012, 07:37:43 AM
Just won a game where I "carried" as Alistar. Went something like 4/4/20 and in all chat in the end the enemy team was grousing about how I carried the team. Landed a bunch of great Qs that turned the tide of battle and had max CDR.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on February 02, 2012, 04:03:46 PM
Mixture of terrible/good game at lunch for me. I've been sticking to Ryze for the last few days, and doing fairly well. I was focusing on my farm, trying to not get too aggressive and get last hits. I was sent mid lane against a Teemo - our team had a Nunu/Annie in bot lane and a Twitch/I can't remember who the other one was. The Annie/Nunu combo was just full pants on head retarded. I managed to make it out of the laning phase with only 1/1/0 against the Teemo, and I think the 1 was due to the other team's Yi coming in for a gank, but dying right after he killed me due to turret diving. Unfortunately, the Yi was fed like a motherfucker by the Nunu/Annie combo. Nunu kept trying to get us to surrender at 20, even though we weren't really that far down. He finally just ragequit at like level 12 or something. I refused to surrender just because he was being such a dick about it and reported him afterwards. Of course, his tally at the end of the game was 1/15/2 - and he only played like 30 minutes. Annie wasn't much better with like 2/7/9 but she spent most of the last portion of the game playing super passive. I didn't finish with a positive k/d but did ok considering the Yi (finished with 22/5 or something) was hot for me like I was the last whore on shore leave. As a whole, I didn't feel too bad about my contribution (7/9/12 I think) because of how bad the team was and a few of my kills were KSed by the Twitch who was pretty decent. I did figure out that I've been saving the Archangel's to the last item I buy and I should probably hit it earlier because of the damage modifier that much AP can give my W. I don't build him AP because it just isn't worth it, but that one can snowball pretty good.


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Post by: jakonovski on February 02, 2012, 04:26:22 PM
I had to try out the new Poppy skin and I'd forgotten how damn long it takes for her to get rolling. I ended up vaporizing the opposing AD carry in the final fights, but I can't believe how many times I had to run for my life. I think I shall try out IE instead of Triforce next time. And probably run out of mana again and again.


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Post by: Margalis on February 02, 2012, 08:01:24 PM
I played with an Annie / Ranged AD bot lane once that completely destroyed the enemy lane and Annie got so fed that even as "support" she ended up carrying.

Kind of wonder why more people don't try stuff like that. Casters don't benefit as much from items, they tend to have decent base damage on abilities as well as some utility.

I played once as support Ashe. Kicked ass.


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Post by: Rasix on February 02, 2012, 08:16:29 PM
Support GP works really well with Ashe.  Works pretty well with others as well.  Q spam with a philostone is pretty effective. 

Most people make a sour face as the very thought of it.  But you are great at securing kills and making plays.  Plus, global ult.

Works better than a Leona that can't land her skill shots.  :awesome_for_real:


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Post by: Thrawn on February 02, 2012, 09:14:10 PM
I played with an Annie / Ranged AD bot lane once that completely destroyed the enemy lane and Annie got so fed that even as "support" she ended up carrying.

Kind of wonder why more people don't try stuff like that. Casters don't benefit as much from items, they tend to have decent base damage on abilities as well as some utility.

My guess is most people are just so too stuck on what the "standard" lanes are.  I wouldn't be surprised if their are newer players that think that's how you HAVE to play the game.  I'd love to try some games with crazy weird stuff just to see how it works.  Go double burst AP bot and destroy the ad or support if they ever get in range or something.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on February 03, 2012, 10:34:58 AM
I just had probably my best game ever with Ryze, all thanks to a really rad Rammus jungler.   First, he helps me put a lot of pressure on Kassadin and forces early flashes.  Then, when I'm about to base, due to no mana and low health, he catches Jax in our jungle and chases.  I lend a hand and help him get a kill (yay autoattack). Kassadin is coming in, but with no mana all I can do is ignite him, but that's enough to get the double.  After that, we get another quick gank and kill on Kassadin as the Q is launched right when he ports away.  This pattern repeats itself a lot.  All of his ganks are landing successfully in almost every lane and the other team can't seem to finish anyone off.   Jax and Kassadin a few times have me in bad spots, but never without my flash up.  One time Jax has me down to 10% but I know he's going to leap into tower range.  So, I pop my ult, spell vamp enough to stay alive, and drop him 100-0.  I did this a few times later to Jax where he was in snare range and just went 100-0 in like 3 seconds.

The game just snowballed dramatically.  I end up 12/0/11.  Our Vayne ends up 14/0/7.  And the overall score on our end is 39/5/68, with Kassadin having the best score on their team with a 1/4/1.   :ye_gods:  The thing is, a few of those early ganks go in their favor and we're probably looking at a much closer game.  Still, the game dragged out a little because they wouldn't surrender even at 22/2.  I think the Jax/Gragas/Kass were queued together and just being a bit stubborn.  Their Corki/Soraka wanted the hell out of that game.  

I just love Ryze.  So hard not to pick him when someone leaves him open. 


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Post by: HaemishM on February 03, 2012, 10:58:58 AM
He is one mean snowball of hell fire from above.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on February 04, 2012, 12:27:24 AM
Just pulled off a flash/power chord kill at level 3 with Sona.  Teemo was low health due to constant harass (I thought he had based) and trots up in front of a Cait trap.  I flash, power chord (damage one), and hit him.  He turns to run and takes one step into the Cait trap and dies.

Cait didn't stop singing my praises for at least 5 minutes.  "I wish I could unreport this Sona."  

The rest of the game wasn't great for me, as I got a caught a few times (overbold due to our Wukong and Kennen just killing everything that moved), and I was picked on in a couple team fights.  Still, I'll remember that shot.  Glad I was able to pull it off given the prep and waiting.  


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Post by: HaemishM on February 04, 2012, 02:28:45 AM
Bought the Deep Sea Kog skin on sale today so I thought I'd celebrate it by taking him back out for a spin AND try out my first draft game. Played 3 games in all, all 3 wins where my Kog was a HUGE carry. First game got fed early by an Ari that DC'ed, game was a pretty quick surrender win. 2nd win I got fed early but not as bad, but ended with a better k/d ratio.

Third game I went back to blind pick since it takes less time to get into game. Started to get fed early by a Veigar who promptly DCed giving me the first kill. He didn't come back until I was level 6 or 7 so was underleveled and would have gotten steamrolled except they began to rotate 2 and 3 champs middle to try to stop my push. Their tower went down soon after but their Wukong really started to get fed by both me and our Shen. I was giving as good as I got, though. Our Shen was a goddamn nightmare. He spent the whole game talking shit to the opponents, berating us for not pushing while he tries to ninja turrets and calling us all noobs. At one point, he starts dogging our Talon. I take a look and our whole team is level 15 and up while he's level 12, has 28 CS, is 1/16/6 and I ask him why he's giving Talon shit with such a terrible score and level. He stops berating us for a bit until later when he drops a ward in their base, teleports to it and attacks their mid turret while the whole team is out and about. That's his idea of ninjaing a turret. And the rest of the team is supposed to push a lane while he does this. He dies and bitches in all chat that it's all our fault. So Talon and I start pushing bot, kill a turret and inhib, die. Rinse, repeat at the top but don't die. The game is pretty much over. I end up with 18/19/6 because the Wukong (14/3/3) is just shitting all over me whenever he gets the chance, as well as anyone else dumb enough to get in range. It didn't help that our Teemo was 0/0/0 until his teen levels and nobody but me got good farm until their teens as well. It really wasn't a good team and I think the scariest part is we wouldn't have won without my Kog, despite all the deaths.


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Post by: HaemishM on February 06, 2012, 03:09:53 PM
I went ahead and grabbed Shyvana and Trynd because they were on sale, and have been sucking with Shyv jungling ever since. She really does have a big problem mid-to-late game. She doesn't have enough health/armor to stand up to focus as a tank, and her ganking abilities are so-so if someone gets away from you.

One game last night was just crazy. The team we were against had 4 champions who all built with Warmog's (Warwick, Nasus, Yi and Nocturne) and a Karthus who didn't and who was the only one squishy enough for me to kill. The four would just roll in and we couldn't take them down because they all had over 3.5k HP. Just insane. So I figured I'd try Warmog's on Shyv today at lunch. That seemed to work a good bit better, as her survivability went WAY up. The early game was frustrating though. We had Gangplank, Anniva, Caitlyn and Miss Fortune. Despite me CLEARLY saying both in the chat beforehand AND in game, Gangplank apparently didn't realize I was jungling. So about level 3 or 4, he just wanders out of his lane after pinging his turret like 50 times and not getting any help (because I was on the other damn side of the map due to, you know, JUNGLING). The turret goes down and when I look to see where he is, he's fucking about mid. The Anniva tells him to leave and when he doesn't, Anniva goes top. Then he starts bitching at me asking me what I'm doing? I'm jungling, like I told you. What are YOU doing leaving the lane? He then ends up going bot lane where we already had two others working. I was just dumbfounded, because nothing anyone said to him made him act in a way that made any goddamn sense. Luckily, the MF and Cait were pretty good and we started rolling with some team kills. I still died more than I killed, but Warmog's helped and so far, I've been getting more assists than kills with Shyv. I've considered trying a more AP or hybrid style build for her, but I'm not sure if the AP ratios on her flame breath/dragon form are worth it.


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Post by: Mosesandstick on February 06, 2012, 03:28:16 PM
Generally, I think a Frozen Mallet is preferable to warmogs on Shyvana because she really uses the slow passive.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on February 06, 2012, 11:51:06 PM
Man, I nearly lost my shit tonight.  I get support, which isn't a surprise since I'm always fourth or fifth pick due to the dumbass way they order normal draft.   I pick Soraka since they had Sona, and Soraka's sustain works well with Cait.  Well, our Cait is named THC and of course if AFK for the first 2 minutes of the laning phase.  Get in and immediately starts tell me shit like "give me mana", "heal me", "gank Ashe".  Fucking moron. Yes, I'm purposely withholding mana from you and refusing to heal.  Nevermind that I just had to blow summoner heal because you stand in one place like a goddamn moron while Sona and Ashe lay into you.  I finally had to tell them "just shut up and play".  The mana persisted, but even I'm not going to be able to keep her topped when she fires off the peacemaker every goddamn time it's up.  I liked the "don't hit the creeps, don't ever hit the creeps".  Thanks, I needed to know that playing my 0cs support.  Sometimes I can't control banana phone.

I popped a surrender request at 20 just because of how annoyed I was.  Then the Ryze gives me shit when he dies after a team fight.  I know your spells don't have shit for cooldowns, but mine do.  Lucky the other team was horrible and the Ashe went into full troll mode after they lost some team fights.  

 :argh:

edit:

Man, I had a better time in the game I lost than the game I won.  Got to play Udyr in lane v. a Garen.  Won my lane and played solidly but team was bad.  Still, Udyr is a lot of fun and the other team were good sports.  Our Akali and Twitch were hideously bad.  Akali just got owned and pretty much did nothing.  Twitch just did that Twitch thing they do when they're bad.  Pop out of stealth, accomplish nothing and die instantly. 


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on February 10, 2012, 12:16:46 AM
Just did  a draft game where I actually got third pick.  We have everything but support picked and our 5th chooses... wait for it... Vlad.

Their Vayne went 19/1/5.   :awesome_for_real:  I had an entertaining top lane as Irelia v GP, where we farmed creeps and made mean faces at each other.  I farmed the most creeps.  :drillf:

edit: I'm just very close to putting this goddamn game down for a while.  Draft pick, while a better experience as far as going along with the meta, is driving me up the fucking wall. I'm not getting any better when I'm stuck with a random role seemingly every time (leans to support) just because the draft order favors people grouped together. 


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Megrim on February 12, 2012, 01:26:00 PM
Play with mates, and/or stop caring about "correct" picks. This community is insipid enough to start screaming troll the moment you pick anything other that Flash/Ignite, so caring whether or not some jackass thinks you should pick support. In other words, they want you to play support? Sure, pick Annie and play support. By killing everything that moves.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on February 13, 2012, 12:10:39 AM
Play with mates, and/or stop caring about "correct" picks. This community is insipid enough to start screaming troll the moment you pick anything other that Flash/Ignite, so caring whether or not some jackass thinks you should pick support. In other words, they want you to play support? Sure, pick Annie and play support. By killing everything that moves.

That's not a bad idea.  I may even do some of the more fun supports (learn Janna/Blitz), since they seem dead set on nerfing sustain.

Finally broke out of my slump with some decent Sona play, but it was against a total troll comp team.  Eve, Nunu, Garen, AP Soraka (HURTS), Nasus.  Zeke's Herald + Sivir/GP/Sona/Cho'gath (we had a really bad  Ori) is a mobile fortress of hot death.  Went 5/1/16 to the detriment to my team.  To be fair, I put in work for those kills.   :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on February 14, 2012, 12:03:23 AM
Just woke my wife up playing Ryze. qwerqwerqwerqwerqwerqwerqwerq spam can get a little loud if the door is open to the office.  :awesome_for_real:  At least I carried. 


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on February 15, 2012, 03:01:24 PM
Last night's game was just a headscratcher. Blind solo queue, I pick Morgana. Team composition is Ziggs, Pantheon and two others who I forget but who really didn't have much impact on my game. Ziggs takes mid while me and Panth take the bot lane against a combo of Lee Sin and Gangplank. I'm thinking this may be a touch difficult right up until the first kill I score against Lee Sin for pushing too hard. Then it starts to go really bad for them, as both myself and Panth start racking up kills. These two players were unbelievably bad. They would just stand in my pool of burning liquid and die. It was awesome.

And then our Panth disconnected. It all went to shit from there. I couldn't push at all and kept getting pushed by the combo of Lee Sin and GP. One death and they get the turret down. So I decide to try and help Ziggs push the mid lane against what turned out to be a good Nidalee player. Ziggs was however, fucktastically bad. The game ended with our surrender with only me voting against it. We did not have to surrender, in fact, despite losing both bot turrets, we had gotten one of their bot turrets down and the mid, and weren't really doing all that bad.

My final kill tally? 9/4/0 (didn't have much to assist on). Ziggs final kill total? 0/7/0. How the hell you don't even get assists with Ziggs I can't even imagine, but he was awful.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on February 23, 2012, 01:56:33 PM
Another lunch, another  :uhrr: :tantrum: :argh: game.

Choose Gangplank, went top lane with a competent Vayne (who unfortunately had a disconnect mid game but came back for the end). We had Ziggs mid against a Kennen, and a Malazhar/Teemo combo bot. Top lane we faced off against Viktor and Fizz, bottom lane was Riven and Pantheon. I had a few early deaths, most of which I can chalk up to not really having clue one what Viktor's abilities are. I did get a kill and an assist, so it wasn't TERRIBLE - until...

I took three deaths top lane from Kennen coming in for a gank with a very well-timed attack. 3 AP champs just fucking melted me, especially once when I was alone in lane. Finally I complained to total silence about the lack of MIA calls. I look down at the map and our Ziggs, who is supposed to be pressuring Kennen mid is down bottom lane doing who the fuck knows what. He spent the whole game just running all the fuck around, leeching off kills and doing fuckall else. I was the best player on our team and still got 18 deaths (9 kills). A lot of it I could chalk up to being combo'ed on by a decent set of players all using AP and CC. Viktor starts with that big ass beam, throws down a huge slow/stun circle, Fizz and Kennen jump in with their damage, then Kennen zaps you with a stun and AOE ability and IF you survive, one or two of them will ignite you to finish you off. They coordinated really well and our team didn't until later. Those early deaths to 3v1 ganks just really pissed me off - I can accept the lack of MIA calls, but at the very fucking least, push your mid lane if your opponent is fucking off to gank top.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Dren on February 23, 2012, 06:27:30 PM
Play with mates, and/or stop caring about "correct" picks. This community is insipid enough to start screaming troll the moment you pick anything other that Flash/Ignite, so caring whether or not some jackass thinks you should pick support. In other words, they want you to play support? Sure, pick Annie and play support. By killing everything that moves.

I want a full server of Megrim.  That would be a fun place.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on February 24, 2012, 10:44:28 AM
Lesson from yesterday:

Don't tower dive solo-top Urgot.  It'll go poorly.

Addendum:  

Don't gloat when you get a semi-lucky kill and your team is down 18-6.  You just look silly.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on February 24, 2012, 11:02:20 AM
Last night's game may have been one of the most lopsided defeats I've ever suffered. The saddest part was that I was the best player, had the most kills and was trying to get the team to surrender because they were JUST SO FUCKING BAD. Another game of Gangplank with a Yorick beside me going top against a solo Garen. We should have been able to push him, but he tower hugged really really well, and amazingly enough, I didn't get so aggressive that I took an unneeded early death. I was 0/0/0 by level 5 - the only problem was that Garen was level 7 by this time and we hadn't come close to pushing him off the tower or killing him either. I look up and my team is down 0/6 - WTF? How bad is the rest of my team? REALLY FUCKING BAD. My first death came in the middle of the top lane by the river as Xin Xhao ambushed me from the river bushes while Yorick was back at base. The first kill our team had left us at 1/19. Yes, that's NINETEEN. WTF?

We were just getting fucking owned all over the place. No MIA calls, no jungler to counter Xin's apparent jungling (or maybe he was just a really good ganker - I assume he was jungling as I never saw him until that first death). We did get some kills back but the team was down like 2:1 in kills and couldn't push ANYWHERE. Yet they wouldn't surrender. I think we got 2 turrets down total. I tried to tell people to farm (as most of the opposition was 2-3 levels above us) and they kept running into team fights and losing. My final tally was 9/15 (not sure on the number of deaths) and everyone else on my team had like 4 kills or less (mostly less). The other team just DESTROYED us.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ozzu on February 25, 2012, 08:24:29 PM
In the last couple of weeks, I've been getting back into the game.

Man, people literally bitch at you from champ select through the entire game if you don't do EXACTLY what they think you should do. I join a game as Soraka and as soon as we spawn, the person on the bottom lane tells me to go top. Um, okay. So, I go top. After about 30 seconds, I'm told to go bottom. *sigh* Alright. So, as everyone else is leveling, I'm finally getting back over to bot and I get ganked before I even get there.

Cue bitching about how I'm a noob and that I should go mid or just sit at spawn. Now, normally, I don't let this kind of crap bother me, but I'm playing a support champ and I'm actually decent at it. I know I can help my team and who doesn't want Soraka laning with them? Meh. I ended up running laps in spawn for a couple of minutes until the primary complainer quits.  :awesome_for_real:

Still though, I don't remember it being this bad before. Maybe I just have a bad memory.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on February 26, 2012, 12:25:57 AM
I'll just leave this here.


This team was BAD. With a capital B. Started off with our Singed disconnecting right as the game began, so I got stuck mid. Their Cait got killed by me immediately, then I had free reign mid for a while, until a level 2 Ryze comes rushing up and dies. Then he dies again because I'm level 5 by this time. We were 4v5 the whole game, but just melted faces.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on February 26, 2012, 11:27:44 PM
Just finished a game where we basically surrendered because we were arguing too much.  Awful team though, I had more gold than the AD carry and solo top as support and only 17 less CS than the solo top.   Support Lux can zone you bad if she can hit her shit.  Doesn't help if Gangplank is too busy ganking for his buddies to gank your lane.

edit: yep, just had another game where I had more gold than top and the AD carry.  Sure glad I'm playing support for these goons.  0/6 lanewick and a bottom Teemo that went 0/6 with Soraka heals and lost by more than 100 CS (like 75 total in 25+ minutes).  FML.

Night was a trifecta of suck.  Played a game of Kennen top v. an OK Vlad, but I don't know what else I have that Vlad wouldn't ream.   Probably could have run Rumble if I was more confident with him at the moment.  Well, my  jungler does pretty much nothing but gank my lane constantly when Vlad was always in the bushes and HE'S VLAD.  Mid gets destroyed (holy shit, bad Cass), bot goes back and forth and eventually gets destroyed, and Vlad and I pretty much are even.  I fuck up a few times, especially during one blue steal, or I think I would have won.  Bot and jungler just go at for probably the last 5 minutes of the game.  Bot, jungle, and their mid yell at each other after game.  Miserable.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on February 28, 2012, 09:23:34 AM
I'm really in love with nautilus, he may be the king of the root and I love it.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ozzu on March 03, 2012, 04:29:41 AM
My current obssesion is jungle Kayle. She's such a good ganker. I still get the occasional "WTF? Jungle Kayle?", but that makes it all the more enjoyable when I do well.

The moment someone gets out of position, I'm there with a well-placed Reckoning. I pop Righteous Fury and I just destroy them as they run for cover. Plus, when it gets late in game, she still has that amazing ult to drop on a teammate. Good stuff.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on March 05, 2012, 09:52:56 AM
I must say, it's really easy to jungle when your top and bottom go legendary almost on their own.  :awesome_for_real:  Funny start to the game with everyone bitching at Teemo for picking Teemo and them almost wanting to queue dodge when everyone forgot that I said I didn't want to jungle.

"So, can you jungle"
"Pretty badly, yah"


Vlad went bot.  Possibly the worst Vlad I've ever seen (even had a skin).  He would charge at Ashe with pool.  Anytime I ran down there to gank, he'd die instantly after getting bear stunned.  Soraka would usually die as well.    Teemo was double killing Garen and the Fiddle all by his lonesome.   Garen's team was saying "Only 4th time Garen, Teemo sucks".  The dude would mostly just sit there and die, there wasn't much of a "feeling out the champ" aspect to him.  I mostly just had to babysit Morg, since she wasn't very good and is countered badly by someone like Fiora.  

Funny how a "waaah we're gonna lose" turns into a 20 minute stomp.  The match making in game, especially in normal draft, can be a bit baffling at times.   Sometimes you get really skilled players, other times you get a Vlad that pools towards you during a gank.





Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on March 05, 2012, 10:24:11 AM
The match making has been absolute SHITTY SHIT SHIT SHIT lately. I'm consistently being put on teams where I'm the best fucking player by a LONG shot. While I've been getting better sticking with one champ (Gangplank the last week or so), I still should not be so far and away the best player on my team. Last night I decided to try my hybrid rune build on Katarina for shits and giggles. I go bot with a Riven against a Garen/Ashe combo. Top was Nunu and Ryze and mid was Annie who didn't really want to go mid. I start out getting some really good early kills against their Ashe, like 2 or 3 kills to 1 death. The Garen turns out to be really good with him (and I'm so sick of seeing Garen on free weeks - he's annoying as fuck) but I keep my normal spas in check and learn to get the fuck away from his spin so early so he doesn't get easy kills on me. I think I was the only one on my team to score a kill against Garen the whole game - all 3 kills he suffered. My team starts trying to surrender shortly after 20 even though we've knocked down more turrets and I'm killing motherfuckers. Finally I start looking at my teammates scores. Fuck me. End of the game Ryze was 0/8/7, Nunu (the one bitching for a surrender the most) was 3/10/6 and complaining that ANNIE fed Morgana when Annie had 7 kills and about as many deaths. It got horrible mid to late game because my entire team was around level 13 or 14 when most of theirs were 15 and 16 and Morgana was 18. Their CS scores were fucktasticly bad.

We finally surrendered (though I kept saying no because Nunu deserved someone being a dick to him) and I check the stats. The Ryze summoner was level 13, everyone else in the game was no lower than 23. How the fuck does that happen? Granted, he was just a bad player it appears, but at 13, he couldn't possibly have the runes to go up against some of the players we were facing. Just crazy bad matchmaking. Of course, the sucky ass Nunu player was level 30.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on March 05, 2012, 10:26:27 AM
Had a game in the morning where we had a jungle jax that didn't take smite.  Pre-game everyone was spamming WTF and he was saying smite is for losers. I was really worried cause I went ashe but in bot lane with me was a teemo, not a great combo or maybe not a great teemo. I shouldn't have been worried because it turns out jax talked big and then surprisingly delivered.  He went Teleport and Flash, then proceeded to mop the floor with the other team, going 19/3 and carrying us to victory.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on March 05, 2012, 10:29:50 AM
Had a game in the morning where we had a jungle jax that didn't take smite.  Pre-game everyone was spamming WTF and he was saying smite is for losers. I was really worried cause I went ashe but in bot lane with me was a teemo, not a great combo or maybe not a great teemo. I shouldn't have been worried because it turns out jax talked big and then surprisingly delivered.  He went Teleport and Flash, then proceeded to mop the floor with the other team, going 19/3 and carrying us to victory.

Jax was still wrong, always take smite.   :oh_i_see:  The enemy jungler failed badly.  He should of been invading and stealing everything from Jax when he saw he had no smite.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on March 05, 2012, 10:31:30 AM
Honestly I had no idea wtf our jax was doing but he ended up with 100 more cs than anyone in the game. So whatever he was doing, he was doing it well.


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Post by: HaemishM on March 05, 2012, 11:12:00 AM
With the jungle changes, I don't think it's ABSOLUTELY necessary. I've done decent with jungle Shyvana before without smite because I wasn't supposed to jungle until the second before the game went into loading mode.


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Post by: Thrawn on March 05, 2012, 11:19:48 AM
Some champions could jungle without smite even before the huge jungle nerf even, that's not the issue.  The idea is that if I'm the enemy jungle I ward your blue/red early and often.  Every time you go for them, I just easily smite steal when you get it low and run away laughing.  You get maybe your first blue/red buff and then don't get another jungle buff for the rest of the laning phase.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on March 05, 2012, 11:25:20 AM
Not sure smite stealing is an effective strat though, you really have to plan around it and I think if your enemy jungler is tearing up your team like our jax was, running around jungle is wasting time.


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Post by: statisticalfool on March 05, 2012, 11:29:55 AM
It's also giving up dragon and baron control.

I mean, yes, if you're wrecking shop, then you can wreck shop without smite.

Also, counterjungling second blue at 7:10? Second red a bit later? Not tough.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on March 05, 2012, 12:18:02 PM
Cho'gath might be the only feasible non-smiter, since he has a 1000 point feast.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on March 05, 2012, 12:23:47 PM
Nunu too.  Consume is 900 true damage. 10 second CD when maxed.  

If it's a normal where you can expect some sort of hideous skill differential, or you're at an ELO where counter jungling is completely dependent on how derpy the other jungler.  Then, yah, you can get away with no smite.  I imagine your initial clear times would be a bit shitty.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on March 05, 2012, 12:35:50 PM
Nunu is not really smite-optional. Unlike Cho, his jungle times are not good, so that second smite helps a lot. Also, Nunu's main value as a jungler is counter jungling and objective control, and the double smite is huge for that.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on March 05, 2012, 12:46:02 PM
Well, yah.  I'm not even sure how you begin to jungle with Nunu otherwise.  His clear times just seem so bad.  I'll have to play around with it, since he's one of the few junglers I even play. 


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Post by: Megrim on March 05, 2012, 03:44:36 PM
Cho'gath might be the only feasible non-smiter, since he has a 1000 point feast.

Both Shaco and Lee Sin do just fine. I think Olaf as well. Shaco is obviously doubly hilarious, since you can have one of your teamates start in your neutrals, while the Shaco starts in theirs.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on March 05, 2012, 05:29:43 PM
Why do I feel like almost everyone is missing the point....  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on March 06, 2012, 09:49:21 AM
Played 2 games last night as Katarina and melted faces in both of them. The first game was the 4th game in a row where I was the best player on the team because I was somehow matched up with COMPLETE MOUTHBREATHER DROOL BUCKETS. I am not even remotely exaggerating when I say these teams were godawful. Again, I think I'm becoming a mediocre player at best, but these teams are so bad that I'm absolutely carrying them. How is that possible? I had to report our Fiddlesticks as he hits level 3 then goes AFK the entire game. When I yelled at him about it, he claimed his leg was bleeding. I asked "Then why the fuck are you still playing?" I had to report him for both the AFK and having a summoner name of, yes, I SHIT YOU NOT, "StupidJewAsian." Really?  :facepalm:

At least the second game I had some competent teammates. I went with my hybrid arm pen/mag pen/AP/AD rune build, then focused on AP and magic pen for my item builds. Sorcerer's shoes, then haunting guise, then double rabbadon's. By the end I had 47 Magic Pen and over 500 AP. The other team's Sion must have been really bad because I absolutely abused him. Shunpo then ult and he was dead multiple times, and sometimes I didn't even need the ult. The other team got held down enough that they were all 2 levels below me or more when I hit 18 and they surrendered before being totally overrun.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on March 06, 2012, 10:20:58 AM
Been trying to jungle jax and I just can't for the life of me understand how it works since he ha literally no cc abilities without items. Not to mention I keep getting stuck with teams that except me to win their lanes for them.

Also is it me or is no one buying wards in non ranked play anymore?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Mosesandstick on March 06, 2012, 10:27:59 AM
Counterstrike is now an on-demand AOE stun and leap strike is an effective gap closer?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on March 06, 2012, 11:38:46 AM
Well yes, maybe I'm playing it wrong or getting bad support from the lanes but jumping in, spamming my shit does not seem to be working at all. The counterstrike stun is nice but the second I leap out they seem to away get away before the stun goes off or I can even trigger it.  I mean I know jax is solid still but I can't get a handle on him.


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Post by: Der Helm on March 06, 2012, 06:01:30 PM
After a string of terrible terrible terrible games, I decided to play AP Morde again and just got my first...

 :drill: :grin: :drill:
PENTAKILL

 :drill: :grin: :drill:


It's awesome how much people underestimate Mordekaiser ability to destroy anything and anyone that lanes against him. With a Deathfire, Ignite and my ult I can destroy any champ on the map as soon as he comes into range and use his sould to destroy his friends.

The soul part is my personal favorite, nothing like killing their AD carry and let it shred through their team. Good times. :)


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on March 06, 2012, 09:07:16 PM
So, I played a few games of this after not playing at all for a few months.  My god, I had forgotten JUST how bad the community is.  I can't even bring myself to play anymore.  Not a single fucking game goes by where one team is either a bad winner or a sore loser.  Back to the shelf with you, LoL.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Der Helm on March 07, 2012, 02:23:51 AM
So glad I could not even install Heroes of Norath (or whatever it is called)  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on March 07, 2012, 08:06:57 AM
So glad I could not even install Heroes of Norath (or whatever it is called)  :awesome_for_real:

I tried it about the same time I was trying LoL.  All the people that say the HoN community is way worse than League are understating it.  It was a terrible, terrible group of people to even have to play a game with.  So far my DotA experience has been surprisingly good with people answering questions and giving tips, however to be fair I've only played vs. bot games so far.

Also grats on the Pentakill Helm.  :oh_i_see:  I think I've gotten one ever outside of ARAM and vs bot games.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on March 07, 2012, 11:07:57 AM
The Heroes of Newerth community makes me want to release a supervirus into the world just to ensure none of our genetic material survives.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on March 07, 2012, 11:26:18 AM
Also grats on the Pentakill Helm.  :oh_i_see:  I think I've gotten one ever outside of ARAM and vs bot games.

In 400+ games, I've still never gotten a penta.  I don't even think I've gotten a quadra, but I could be wrong there.   Won't happen either unless I stop playing support 50-75% of the time.  Not much of a choice with normal mode draft putting groups always first.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on March 07, 2012, 11:35:52 AM
Also grats on the Pentakill Helm.  :oh_i_see:  I think I've gotten one ever outside of ARAM and vs bot games.

In 400+ games, I've still never gotten a penta.  I don't even think I've gotten a quadra, but I could be wrong there.   Won't happen either unless I stop playing support 50-75% of the time.  Not much of a choice with normal mode draft putting groups always first.

The crazy thing about my penta is I always assumed I'd get one on Fiddle.  I played a ton of Fiddle, I was good with him, he has a great AOE ult and old crow bounced like 11 times at 5.  Nope, instead I got it in a game where I was playing tank Shen a long while ago.  :uhrr:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on March 07, 2012, 11:58:00 AM
Well, I can see myself getting a surprise one on Nunu if the other team doesn't have a lot of cc.    I don't play a lot of champs with huge AOE, and it seems like someone always interrupts the streak while something is on cooldown, even with Ryze.  You can be tearing through an entire team with your fed Irelia/GP/Ryze/etc, but someone's always going to sneak in the last bit of damage.

It's just luck, but it would be cool to get one before I stop playing.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on March 07, 2012, 08:58:56 PM
Well, I can see myself getting a surprise one on Nunu if the other team doesn't have a lot of cc.    I don't play a lot of champs with huge AOE, and it seems like someone always interrupts the streak while something is on cooldown, even with Ryze.  You can be tearing through an entire team with your fed Irelia/GP/Ryze/etc, but someone's always going to sneak in the last bit of damage.

It's just luck, but it would be cool to get one before I stop playing.

My only one ever was as Yi, stringing his ult together is lovely. 


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ashamanchill on March 07, 2012, 11:49:16 PM
The Heroes of Newerth community makes me want to release a supervirus into the world just to ensure none of our genetic material survives.

You have no idea how hard that made me laugh.

The only penat I've ever gotten was a few weeks ago on Olaf. I played a blind mode normal, just to dick around, and my opponents had ZERO idea how Olaf worked. I had a WW repeatedly try to ult me  :drill:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on March 08, 2012, 12:32:02 AM
I still have no idea on how you even fight Olaf.  I played an game on Irelia (top), where the jungle Olaf would just tower dive me at will.  Then if if I attempted to fight him straight up? Shit, I got melted.  Luckily his team was awful. 

Just had a Ryze game where I had a shit laning phase; I was totally getting dominated by this Anivia.  I was 0-2 and plenty of CS down.  Then I started pushing out the lane, going bot and picking up kills in team fights/dragons.. and here comes my core.  Finished 13/4/14.   I was fifth pick, of course, but it's just so nice when the premades ask if you'd like to AP mid  :grin:  The other solo (4th pick) went Urgot top and finished 10/2/13, absolutely dominating a Kennen.   Surprised we did so well with a jungle mumu that went on 0/6 and repeatedly initiated with no one around. 

I must say, it's so hard to get people to do baron in normal, even if there's almost 0 chance it'll go wrong. 


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on March 08, 2012, 07:17:39 AM
I still have no idea on how you even fight Olaf.  I played an game on Irelia (top), where the jungle Olaf would just tower dive me at will.  Then if if I attempted to fight him straight up? Shit, I got melted.  Luckily his team was awful. 

I still haven't figured out why they buffed him last patch.   :uhrr:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on March 08, 2012, 09:45:00 AM
I've no idea WTF Olaf even does. I've had games where he was less than irrelevant and got dickpounded every time he showed his face, and I had a game the other night where he absolutely OWNED me as Udyr. I played him once and just didn't get it.

I've been playing a few games with Karma since I bought her on sale awhile back and had not even bothered to play her. Oh man, I was so so bad for like the last 3 games with her, but I think I may have gotten a bit of a clue last night. She's a very weird support character.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on March 08, 2012, 10:02:56 AM
So I've been playing a bit more DotA 2 lately and decide last night I feel like playing a game of LoL for a change of pace.  I join a normal draft, bans are all pretty standard.  Then our first pick locks in Revive/Surge Eve without saying a thing, our second pick locks in Fizz and puts in chat "FUCK YOU ALL, MID OR I FEED".  I'm all ready to lock in AP Yi top but our 3rd pick dodges before it gets to me.  I take that as a sign and just played some Tribes instead.  :uhrr:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: MrHat on March 08, 2012, 11:34:23 AM
Let me echo that Fizz vote.

Damn fun char.  Built him -cooldown and just threw AP fish around all game.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on March 08, 2012, 11:21:06 PM
Man, I may have to buy Kog'maw at some point.  This is the first ranged AD I've enjoyed playing in a long time.  Of course, my first time playing him and they stick me solo top.  :oh_i_see:  Luckily it was against vlad.  Zoning is fun!

Really had no idea how to build him, so I just ripped off the new Euro tourney build.  Boots-> double dorans -> wriggles -> pd (as far as I got before they surrendered).  He just fucking shreds people hard.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on March 09, 2012, 04:33:53 AM
I've no idea WTF Olaf even does. I've had games where he was less than irrelevant and got dickpounded every time he showed his face, and I had a game the other night where he absolutely OWNED me as Udyr.

Same. All I know is he throws an axe sometimes.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on March 09, 2012, 10:18:05 AM
Man, I may have to buy Kog'maw at some point.  This is the first ranged AD I've enjoyed playing in a long time.  Of course, my first time playing him and they stick me solo top.  :oh_i_see:  Luckily it was against vlad.  Zoning is fun!

Really had no idea how to build him, so I just ripped off the new Euro tourney build.  Boots-> double dorans -> wriggles -> pd (as far as I got before they surrendered).  He just fucking shreds people hard.

Kog'Maw is INSANELY good. It's almost impossible to build him badly. It's been a bit since I've played him, but I tend to ignore the AP and just go for attack speed and damage. He's also the one character I don't give two shits about dying with, because of his suicide KABOOMBOOM. There is no reason not to lead CS with Kog and by mid-game, he should be able to just melt people down.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on March 09, 2012, 10:28:35 AM
Oddly enough, the Vlad actually out CS'd me.  Partially because I'm so bad at last hitting with ranged AD and also because I was super paranoid being solo top with a ranged AD  and Noct as their enemy jungler.  It's also hard to last hit when you don't know the attack animation that well nor the kit.  I think given a few games I could actually be dangerous even when I'm not in a really favorable matchup.

And Kog is typically built AD, but AP Kog is still completely viable and very strong.  Had to go AD in this instance since my team was really AP heavy.

Playing only once a night feels really weird.  There's absolutely internal pressure to do well.  I just want to have a fun game and then load up ME3.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on March 09, 2012, 10:36:17 AM
I think I've given up on Karma. She's kind of fun when she works, but I'm just not skilled enough to do well with her. I get an absolute SHITTON of assists, but getting the kills is just not happening. And I'm dying a shitload because I'm just squishy. Her W and E require a lot of skill to get really right. I did manage to get her AP to close to 800 with items, but she just doesn't fit me at least not right now.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on March 09, 2012, 10:38:59 AM
She's considered broken at the moment.  In a bad way.  I think they're working on a redesign for her.

edit:

Btw, third place game of IEM Hanover on right now.  Should be fun.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on March 11, 2012, 01:18:25 AM
Seeing a lot of Urgots lately and they're all raping face.  Wins lane hard and ends up having a lot of utility late.

Just had a game where I got a pat on the back and good job for going 3/7 as jungle Udyr after the 4 man premadel locked their all champs and forgot I said I didn't want to jungle.  Still, it's nice when the premades go out of their way to be nice to you.  While I was a bit derpy with my ganks; I handed off every blue after the first, kept the enemy jungler down, and we got every baron/dragon.  I just didn't counter jungle for shit, mainly because I run tiger and my clear times weren't great. I guess next time I'll practice some phoenix. 


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on March 11, 2012, 07:29:03 AM
The protip for phoenix udyr: find the spot where you phoenix the entire wraith camp. It's (for blue) in the northeast corner of the camp.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on March 12, 2012, 10:59:00 AM
Hey Ras, hit me up if you want some udyr advice. That's mah dude right there... And Phoenix is superior I think.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on March 12, 2012, 11:27:37 AM
Bought Cho'gath this weekend, played 4 games with him, SUCKED UTTER MONKEY ASS on 3 of the 4 games. Finally looked up a build on him and did decent on the 4th game, if still dying too much. I didn't really get how to use his ult until after the 2nd or 3rd game when the muddy waters of my brain suddenly parted. I mean, I got ASS-RAPED on those 3 games, just couldn't get shit for kills, my CS was horrid. He seems very very fragile early on and damn is he slow. The item store recommendations are really not good either.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on March 12, 2012, 01:20:23 PM
I really like move quints on Cho, and sometimes the speed 3 boots. Build em tanky, maybe throw in a Wits End


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ashamanchill on March 12, 2012, 06:41:58 PM
**cracks knuckles** For starter Cho's I suggest running attack speed runes, as much of it as you can get. Until you learn fully how to last hit, just farm farm farm with your vorpal spines until you have way more money than anyone else on the map.

My build [WARNING!!! NOT A STANDARD BUILD], runs like this; Attack speed reds, %HP yellows, MR per lvl blues, and %HP quints.

Skill order, I max vorpal spines first, then scream, with one point in rupture, with feast obviously coming before all. The reason being that ruptures are hard to land in the laning phase when people are looking out for them, even when you know what your doing, and scream is easy to land. Vorpal spines are maxed to make farming easy as shit, and because with normal Chogath build people either dodge, or eat the burst of his other spells, then come at him. No one expects this system, where every attack I make packs an extra 80 magic damage. It really surprises people.

For items, your first two items will ALWAYS be against the damage of your lane foe; i.e. if I'm fighting rumble, I'm going wits end and Merc threads at least; Riven means I'm getting tabis and starting usually just a chain vest will do. After I've gotten at least 4 tank items, I build a Deathfire grasp ASAP. In teamfights, you DFG, then chomp and all the rest their carry, and it just delets them from the game.

If you feel your lane is not working out, get some gp 10s and just farm by the tower. If you end up rocking your lane, don't be afraid to get into their jungle and steal their sweet sweet buffs with your chomp.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on March 13, 2012, 11:55:13 AM
Did pretty good as my first time with phoenix Udyr.  Here's my setup:

Runes:  attack speed reds, armor yellows, mr blues (flat, don't have scaling yet), and movespeed quints. 

Build was boots 3, merc treads, philo, hog, wits ends, randuins, atmas, shurelias.


Did fine. I had a lot of farm and my ganks weren't bad.   Had some button confusion at times since I usually run tiger.  My team just couldn't team fight for shit and we had no damage in the end.  Morde, Heimer, AP support Nid (STOP PLAYING THIS, ASSHOLES), and Corki. The Morde fed like crazy at the start, and he was first pick.  It didn't even look like my team would use abilities in team fights.   Probably should have ran a more AD heavy jungler, but I didn't care.  I think we could have ended it earlier, but I'm not sure. Once their Fiora/Akali/GP/Cait hit critical mass, we were done.

Also said I preferred not to jungle, but that doesn't seem to matter when you're 5th pick and your team doesn't feel like communicating other than stating their preference after they lock.

Thinking of just leaving my stated non-roles as ranged AD.  I'd like to get some more jungle practice and just deal with the bad manners I'll get in return. 

It looks like I have about half of the junglers, missing some of the popular ones.  I'm thinking of trying Nunu (I think the clear times will suck, but I'm comfortable with him), WW, Noct, and maybe Mundo.  Of these, I only have experience with Noct and Nunu (as support).   I do have Shaco and Rammus, but they're always banned. 


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: MrHat on March 13, 2012, 04:12:56 PM
Not sure why I never considered Nid a support AP hero.

I played Nunu as support yesterday and did pretty well, he's just so speedy and annoying that it works out if you have a competent second with you.

Wouldn't Nid be ever better than Nunu with map awareness and heal/ats?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on March 13, 2012, 04:24:58 PM
Support Nid is pretty darn useful early.

But AP Nid needs items to be at all scary, and you're not getting those items with GP/10. So she does extraordinarily little.

While Nunu transitions pretty well into his endgame buff/debuff bot role.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on March 13, 2012, 04:28:25 PM
Had a weird game at lunch. Picked Cho, went back to the build out that was working before but was getting owned hard in top lane by a Twitch/Fiora combo. Mostly the Twitch really. It didn't help that my lane partner was an Ezreal who fed just as badly if not worse and by mid-game was 4 levels behind me and complaining that he "doesn't play Ezreal well." I'm thinking "Why the fuck did you choose him then?" Didn't sound like he cared about learning Ez so we could excuse his sucking, just didn't like playing him. Anyway, we're getting owned hard, even with their Wukong who dropped after level 3. So 4v5, we're getting smacked around but I've managed to take out a few turrets with Cho. Their Yi and Soraka, who had been doing decently, just quit. They didn't get DC'ed they just stayed in spawn and stopped playing. Needless to say, even with a very good Twitch and Fiora, 5v2 just wasn't happening and we win.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on March 13, 2012, 04:33:57 PM
Easier to 0 CS support with Nunu IMO.  While there's no sustain to provided to your carry, there's essentially no cool down on your steroid (100% uptime if you have the mana) and you have an on demand snare/attack speed debuff.  Plus, in this scenario, an actually useful ultimate.  His base stats are nutty, and you get naturally tanky as all hell.

With Nid you are getting incredible brush control, some heal sustain, and a long range poke.  Pretty mana intensive, however if you want to do all of it.

Every time that I've seen support Nid, it's been incredibly ineffective and I never see them win.  Plus, you have the added bonus of a Nidalee player, who is obviously pro, and you are a scrub. 

I have no idea what 3150 champ I want to get next.  Feel like getting Urgot, just to play an interesting champ and punish people for making me ranged AD.  On the other hand, I could also get Olaf/Shen/Lux/Nid.  Bleh.  Hard to choose.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on March 13, 2012, 04:35:29 PM
Had a weird game at lunch. Picked Cho, went back to the build out that was working before but was getting owned hard in top lane by a Twitch/Fiora combo. Mostly the Twitch really. It didn't help that my lane partner was an Ezreal who fed just as badly if not worse and by mid-game was 4 levels behind me and complaining that he "doesn't play Ezreal well." I'm thinking "Why the fuck did you choose him then?" Didn't sound like he cared about learning Ez so we could excuse his sucking, just didn't like playing him. Anyway, we're getting owned hard, even with their Wukong who dropped after level 3. So 4v5, we're getting smacked around but I've managed to take out a few turrets with Cho. Their Yi and Soraka, who had been doing decently, just quit. They didn't get DC'ed they just stayed in spawn and stopped playing. Needless to say, even with a very good Twitch and Fiora, 5v2 just wasn't happening and we win.

Are you sure they didn't DC? Were they actually talking?  Because you don't get a message anymore if they DC.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on March 13, 2012, 04:54:50 PM
They must have said something to their teammates because both the remaining opponents wanted us to report them for just quitting.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on March 13, 2012, 05:07:26 PM
Ahh, NM, I misread that.

Are you playing draft or blind still, Haem?  Play draft if you get tired of the nonsensical lanes and screwball leveling meta.  Conversely, I may end up going back to blind so I can actually get some practice on the champs I've bought.  Instalock and "I don't care what lane I'm in".   Of course then I feel like I have to jungle, because no one wants to.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on March 13, 2012, 05:14:22 PM
Shen! You're a solo top player. Take the flavor of the month solo top.

Easier to 0 CS support with Nunu IMO.  While there's no sustain to provided to your carry, there's essentially no cool down on your steroid (100% uptime if you have the mana) and you have an on demand snare/attack speed debuff.  Plus, in this scenario, an actually useful ultimate.  His base stats are nutty, and you get naturally tanky as all hell.

With Nid you are getting incredible brush control, some heal sustain, and a long range poke.  Pretty mana intensive, however if you want to do all of it.

Every time that I've seen support Nid, it's been incredibly ineffective and I never see them win.  Plus, you have the added bonus of a Nidalee player, who is obviously pro, and you are a scrub. 

I have no idea what 3150 champ I want to get next.  Feel like getting Urgot, just to play an interesting champ and punish people for making me ranged AD.  On the other hand, I could also get Olaf/Shen/Lux/Nid.  Bleh.  Hard to choose.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on March 13, 2012, 05:21:29 PM
Shen! You're a solo top player. Take the flavor of the month solo top.

I am in spirit at least.  1 out of my last 10 games has been top and that was the surprise Kog'maw top.  He's banned like 90% of the games I see anyhow.

Interesting looking at my last 10 played:

1 top (1-0)  3/1/1
2 jungle (1-1) 4/9/21 *barf*
2 mid (1-1) 12/8/22
2 ranged AD (1-1) 5/5/3
3 support  (1-2) 1/6/29

Maybe I should play ranked.. heh.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on March 13, 2012, 10:50:22 PM
I've been playing blind more recently because I've wanted to make sure I get the champ I want. Draft takes a bit longer and I haven't necessarily seen a better "class" of player, but at least in the team selection chat they tend to talk about what should be banned and what should be taken.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Der Helm on March 13, 2012, 11:22:02 PM
a better "class" of player
You are supposed to find them in "ranked" draft, not sure you can access that yet, last time I saw you on you were lvl 29.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on March 14, 2012, 12:34:39 AM
You'll find less trolly behavior with normal draft.  The overall skill level seems to vary more as you get a lot of premades.  Some people really end up having to carry their less talented amigos and apparently do it constantly.  I got to be 5th pick for this same group (one game they had 3, one was 4 after their other friend got on) and only one of them wasn't a complete waste of space.  One game I supported their Ashe that was down 120 cs to Vayne at the 20-25 minute mark and the other I had to ranged AD bot with a Janna that started with a dorans ring and never bought any wards.  That same Ashe managed to go 0/7 top as Irelia.  Their lone decent guy played pretty good every game, but they were awful. They even manged to counter picked themselves on occasion. I wish I could remember who they ran Nasus against top in the first game, I managed to burst out laughing when I saw it (looked it up, it was Olaf).

Got to play top tonight.  YAY.  Was going to try Yorick, but realized my team had 0 damage already.  I wasn't sure how my Irelia would do against Renekton, but it was a bit of a laugher.  Guy never got me below 50% hp.  I would have had a really absurd score, but the Vlad kept last hitting everyone.  The funny thing is, I thought this game was over before the minions even spawned.  Vlad walked right into all 5 of them parked outside of blue and Mumu, not paying attention, did the same damn thing.  We had to hold them off blue and even had to go back to releash as blue reset.  I was down a level and 2 assists before even getting my first last hit.  Crazy shit.  We only finished up 22/19 in kills, but at the team fights weren't even close.  Our bot got reamed, but it didn't seem to matter.  Fun game.  Better nerf Irelia.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: MrHat on March 14, 2012, 01:01:30 PM
How is the order determined in draft mode?

I'm tired of playing support because of last pick.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on March 14, 2012, 01:05:42 PM
How is the order determined in draft mode?

I'm tired of playing support because of last pick.

Don't pick support then. Pick something fun, run Blitz with your AD or something. ;D


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on March 14, 2012, 01:06:27 PM
In normal draft it's:

Group of jackasses
ELO of remaining solo players. (GUESSING HERE).

Highest pick I've ever been in normal draft is 3. I'm usually 5 as you get a lot of 4 man premades. 


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on March 14, 2012, 01:30:32 PM
I was actually #1 pick once during draft picks, but it's been rare.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Flinky on March 15, 2012, 05:09:49 AM
Megrim, Schpain and myself regularly play Normal Draft (with one of us ALWAYS taking first slot) and will readily agree with Rasix that we are, in fact, a group of jackasses.

That being said, the visceral outrage shown by some people at the slightest deviation from the agreed meta is a little baffling.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: MrHat on March 15, 2012, 09:49:06 AM
Lesson of the day?

Don't pick a melee (Fizz) vs. Ryze in the mid.

It's RYZE.

/lesigh

Question: How come sometimes it's 4 bans and sometimes it's 6?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on March 15, 2012, 10:30:08 AM
Megrim, Schpain and myself regularly play Normal Draft (with one of us ALWAYS taking first slot) and will readily agree with Rasix that we are, in fact, a group of jackasses.

That being said, the visceral outrage shown by some people at the slightest deviation from the agreed meta is a little baffling.

I'm not a rager, but it's impossible to not tally up everytime somebody goes off meta and then ruins a game. (AP Twitch/Yi, I'm so looking at you.)

That said, it's true that people are a bit too tight in their tier lists. Lots of Tier 3 or whatever champs are perfectly viable if you're playing them well.

 


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on March 15, 2012, 10:49:22 AM
Played a draft game last night - got queue dodged right after everyone had selected and the game was about to launch. I'm like WTF? WHY DO YOU QUEUE DODGE NOW? Get in another queue with two of the same guys. I figured I'd take Gangplank so as not to embarrass myself too much (that's what blind pick is for). The team wanted me to jungle so I did, even though I've never jungled with him before. I had a fantastic early game, getting two successful (and lucky as fuck) ganks. Then my mid-game sucked, as I kept getting killed in team fights. However, the team really worked well and we just tore through them to end the game in less than 40 minutes with the other team surrendered right as we took down the last two turrets in front of the nexus. I learned that when Mundo is all flamy, get the fuck away from him. I really could have used a flash but you know, jungler.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on March 15, 2012, 11:13:13 AM
I really could have used a flash but you know, jungler.

What were you taking if not flash/smite?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on March 15, 2012, 12:58:29 PM
Smite/heal. To be honest, I actually needed the heal a few times.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on March 15, 2012, 01:08:48 PM
Hmm, you really shouldn't in the new jungle route (much as heal is a nice summoner), and not having an escape/gap closer is bad news.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on March 15, 2012, 01:17:27 PM
I don't jungle well.  :awesome_for_real: I'll do it if the team asks, but I'm really not good at it.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on March 15, 2012, 01:22:40 PM
I don't usually see heal on a jungler.  If there's something other than flash, it's exhaust and that's on a jungler with a built in escape mechanic (Shaco/Shyv/Shen/PigLady).  I suppose you could take ignite if they have a WW/Mundo, but there's usually at least one or two ignites on your team.   I guess if you think you're going to be heavily counter jungled.. nah, don't take heal.  Just run away once in a while, Haem.   :awesome_for_real:

I usually run heal on an ad carry or support.  Sometimes top or mid, but it's rare.  The times mid I take it, I often end up with letting someone live where an ignite would have killed them.  Plus, if I don't take ignite top, I'd rather have teleport for dragon, split pushing, ganks (not that often for me, honestly, I'd rather farm), or just to save your fucking tower after a gank.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on March 16, 2012, 02:05:43 AM
Not a fun night.  Team totally threw a game were were up 22-10 in.  This happened right after the FP Viktor said how nice it was that we weren't talking because were we all doing so well.  Rumble gets caught in the jungle, Viktor gets caught simulatenously after that and they march up middle for the win after the ace.  Good thing our Ezreal was so confident that he bought two IEs. :awesome_for_real:   We did really well bot, but never got jungle help so we had to buy after really long stretches in lane (fucking Soraka). 

Game before that, a group of 3 had us report their friend after he fed Fiora and then rage quit.  "Just report him, he's an asshole and yelling on Skype".

Game after the throw, I tell my team I'm bad at ranged ad, but they put me there anyways with a drunk Leona that goes 0/7.  The 2/6 Yorick, who lost his lane very badly to an Irelia (that just proceeded to fucking destroy everyone), calls me out for being 0/4.  "I told you I was bad at ranged ad."  "That you did".  Raging from him ceased.

And all of this took so long that it's too late to play ME3.   :oh_i_see:  :argh:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: ezrast on March 16, 2012, 10:43:50 AM
I have decided that Ezreal free week is my least favorite thing.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on March 16, 2012, 10:45:34 AM
Yah, it's awesome to land a stun and then watch your Ezreal... do nothing.   Most are just really awful. 


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on March 16, 2012, 11:32:59 AM
Played Irelia last night in a LONG ass game (over 50 minutes). It was so long a game, I bought wriggles and soul shard then sold them both for different things because I didn't like what they were giving me (though I could have kept the wriggles). And STILL had like 3k gold when we lost the game. The only reason it lasted so long? At level 16, our Soraka just quit. No DC, just sat in the spawn with her thumb up her ass. It still took another 20 minutes after that and 2 baron runs for the other team to kill us. I finished 19/20/something or other, but many of those deaths were a case of getting CCed and focused to death like 3 and 4v1. She can just absolutely face-melt at times, especially if she gets that stun off.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on March 16, 2012, 11:37:51 AM
Soul shroud? 

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/82533/YYDK1.gif)



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on March 16, 2012, 11:39:32 AM
Yeah, I had plenty of money and was looking for something with cooldown on it. Bought it, quickly regretted it, sold it for a sunfire cape.

It's only like my 4th game with Irelia after all. I'm due for some WTF moments.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on March 18, 2014, 01:11:43 AM
2 games in a row now where I won and really never thought we'd win.  First game even had 2 or 3 surrender votes that didn't pass and I was almost ready to blow up at our support Orianna.  Caught their Ashe out of position at our inhib,  and I got a triple kill that turned into tier 2 tower, inhib tower, inhib, both nexus towers and the game.  Second game their Renekton went 4-0 top before anyone was even level 6.  Luckily we had the power of the gem knight and my carry Taric (lols) was too much for them.

Taric/Fiora lane isn't that bad once Fiora hits 6.  Then if they remotely push the lane, someone's going to die.  Before then, it's a bit rough.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on March 18, 2014, 06:42:29 PM
Finally hit level 30, tried my first ranked game as Gangplank and got faceraped. Myself and an Ezreal took bot lane against a Nautilus and Fizz combo that had to be communicating on Skype. They just owned us. A lot of the time, I was by myself in the lane as Ezreal had fucked off to parts unknown.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on March 19, 2014, 10:47:30 AM
I have learned 2 things from playing ranked games.

I am not nearly as good as I thought I was (which isn't really a surprise) and people in ranked games have taken the mantra "I will be a frustrated, whiny, cockgobbling shitcock at every opportunity disproving my worth as a human being" to 11.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Der Helm on March 19, 2014, 11:10:21 AM
I have learned 2 things from playing ranked games.

I am not nearly as good as I thought I was (which isn't really a surprise) and people in ranked games have taken the mantra "I will be a frustrated, whiny, cockgobbling shitcock at every opportunity disproving my worth as a human being" to 11.
/ignore at first offense, makes game much more fun in my book.

edit: I might have asked this before, but why are spanish/portugese speaking players so terrible at this game ?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on March 19, 2014, 11:47:21 AM
I haven't seen a good Brazilian player since I was leveling.  Getting in a Brazilian premade is fucking hell on Earth.

1) They don't even attempt to talk to you in champ select.  If you say what you'd rather not play, chances are you'll be playing it.
2) Completely nonsensical bans.  Nonsensical team comps.  First two picks are always top and mid (often looks like top/top or mid/mid).  They don't like to jungle, ranged AD or support.
3) Mordekaiser will be first or second pick.  Yes, this is a stereotype, but it happens everytime in practice.
4) In game communication will be completely in Portuguese and they will only speak in English to insult you or the other team.
5) 90% chance FB will happen before minions spawn even without an invade.  

I wouldn't suggest diving into ranked when you first hit 30, Haem.  The 30 game is a bit different from what you get when leveling up.  It changes.  I'm still too uncommitted/chicken-shit to try.

I had a game last night where they was an extended level 1 team fight that ended with the score being 3-3 before a minion had even spawned.   :awesome_for_real: I think I could have had multiple kills (and a level 1 ace) if just went balls out, but I was top and late to the party.  Entire game felt like an ARAM.  There was so little farm and just a shit load of fights. I got whupped in lane by Wukong as Gangplank.  He can go a lot crazier with his harass and that champ is just in a very good spot right now.  Gangplank, I'm not so sure.  His laning in general right now feels pretty bad, but if you can avoid feeding you're still an asset with your ult and late game.   Fortunately in this game, my jungler was Lee Sin, who just completely shuts Wukong down.  Hard.  It's not even funny how bad Lee destroys him.

edit: Ho shit, our botlane went 25-8 that game including a 10/5 Taric. o_O


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on March 19, 2014, 11:52:23 AM
I wouldn't suggest diving into ranked when you first hit 30, Haem.  The 30 game is a bit different from what you get when leveling up.  It changes.  I'm still too uncommitted/chicken-shit to try.

Meh, I don't mind sucking hind tit. It just felt like the good runs I've been having (at least until I played Akali) was a bit of false ego boost because holy shit, the level of play was much harder. And the bitch factor was an order of magnitude worse.

I had no problems last-hitting and laning with GP in non-ranked play. Ranked? Holy fuck, I couldn't do SHIT. My CS was a good 25% lower than normal and I felt completely unable to get in lane consistently at all, even playing a lot less aggressively than I normally play.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Der Helm on March 19, 2014, 12:26:20 PM
3) Mordekaiser will be first or second pick.  Yes, this is a stereotype, but it happens everytime in practice.
Holy shit, I am a Brazilian ?

I LOVE that champ so much. Just turned around a 4v5 game after a ragequit and 5 surrender votes.

Proceeded to suiciding into the enemy team, getting either turrets, inhibs or triple kills out of my deaths.

It's awesome how much people underestimate the souls I steal until... "OH MY GOD, IT IS RIGHT IN MY FACE AND GET IT OFF, GET IT OFF, GET IT OOOOOooooof..."

Twitch, Teemo, Caytlin or any carry with high attack speed are awesome for that.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on March 19, 2014, 01:32:22 PM
I wouldn't suggest diving into ranked when you first hit 30, Haem.  The 30 game is a bit different from what you get when leveling up.  It changes.  I'm still too uncommitted/chicken-shit to try.

It could just be different personal experiences, but if you watched a replay of my draft games I doubt you could tell the difference between normal and ranked ones.  Still get occasional trolls and feeders and afk in ranked just as much as normals.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on March 20, 2014, 12:15:54 AM
I feel like ranked is the only way to really learn to improve. For example in normal games people just don't give a shit about controlling dragon and baron so if you only play normal you don't give a shit either. In general people in normal don't "make plays", as in do something smart and not completely obvious like escape a gank by walking towards a specific wall and flashing over rather than running straight back to tower. As you go up in ranked you steadily see more of that.

Trolls / feeders / afk is not really different, if anything it's worse in ranked. But the general shape of the game is different in ranked, if that makes sense.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on March 20, 2014, 12:21:52 AM
edit: I might have asked this before, but why are spanish/portugese speaking players so terrible at this game ?

I play at a lot of weird hours and the game is definitely way different. 1300 elo at 7PM on Wednesday night is totally different from 1300 elo 6AM on Saturday. I suspect that these different time zones don't cross pollinate that much so the rankings never normalize. So if you get grouped with a BR player who is in your elo they may realistically be much worse but playing with much worse peers.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on March 20, 2014, 12:43:00 AM
They play a lot of support Poppy too. Lane usually goes great, but you never win.

edit:

Fun quote from tonight:

"Bot was doing fine"

Teemo/Kayle bot was 5/18 with lowest CS.  Group of 4 premade.  They were reporting each other at the end.  I don't know if I was witnessing a bad scene or getting trolled.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on March 20, 2014, 09:11:32 AM
What was that Teemo/Kayle bot playing against?  :uhrr: That combo should at the very least be able to zone the shit out of most anything.

Played another ranked game last night. I was last pick so I just let the team decide what they wanted me to do, other than telling them I am a suck ass jungler. They picked ranged AD and said go with Miss Fortune or Kog, so Kog it was. MUCH MUCH BETTER. The team was better on the whole than the ones I've been playing with and I didn't feel left completely ass out in the middle of nowhere. Went bot lane with a Soraka that was an absolute support pro. She finished 3/1/19 with like 20 CS, and I had 7/5/7 with a good CS but it's Kog, so really not fucking hard to run the table with CS. Best parts were watching an Alistar melt to Kog's lightning quick spit takes. Thanks to my runes and item choices, I had 1.8 attack speed by the time I was level 11.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on March 20, 2014, 01:09:43 PM
Dear God, I don't think I have ever wanted a group of people to contract fast-acting crotchrot so much in my life. Jumped into a solo queue non-ranked game as lunch to play around with Karthus. Team comp was Kennen (admitted first time Kennen), Yi, Olaf and Nocturne with my Karthus. Keenen called mid so I let him and went bot. Barely literate Yi is jungling which he doesn't tell me until I ask after I'm already in lane. Olaf and Noc go top. I waltz out into the middle of the lane (not even face-checking a bush) and get immediately ganked by a Nocturne/Vayne combo. Look around and see Noc and Olaf fucking about top against a solo Gangplank (they had a Maokai jungling and Teemo mid). I said that I cannot handle a 2v1 bot lane so please someone come down now. NOTHING. Silence. Of course, I get killed again just trying to get some CS. I'm starting to get pissed and ask for help again. Nope. Nada. At this point, I'm so pissed off I just say "Fuck it." I don't even bother worrying about getting killed the rest of the game, just getting CS and doing damage and fucking about. Final score was like 2/13/7 or something equally vile. Anytime someone bitches about Nocturne being fed, I point out again that I asked for help and got ignored, but with much more colorful language.

Either Olaf spoke no English or was just a complete fucking retard. None of them looked to be that good a player. Yi stops jungling a few times to try a gank bot lane WHEN I'M DEAD and gets melted 2v1 twice. It was just a comedy of total retardism in action.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: pxib on March 20, 2014, 01:34:59 PM
Well with Karthus if you're getting ganked early just go necro. Stop getting last hits on champ kills and build entirely for tower diving. His Defile aura is a beast at pushing lanes in mid/late game and with his passive death still allows him to soften up the opposition enough for them to be nervous about sticking around.

I've won a lot of games as Karth with high CS and the world's saddest K/D ratio. If the team tells you to stop feeding explain you're playing "Necro" Karthus and that you're not even worth any gold anymore. They may continue to piss and moan, but so be it... you'll see your results. Just be careful using his ult for assists, though, because if you get the last hit on a champ kill it resets your death reward to 300.

You can play the same way with other heavy pushers, (Sivir, for example) but Karth's 7 seconds of doom just make it extra fun on him.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on March 20, 2014, 01:59:32 PM
If you're getting pounded in some unreasonable scenario like that, just let the tower go down.  Perhaps let both towers go and just freeze the lane way back in your territory.  Sure they get to roam now, but if they want to CS, your inept jungler and mid have a lot of room to gank and they'll have a long way to get out.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on March 20, 2014, 02:10:27 PM
Oh I did. I let the lane come back to the second tower. The Yi couldn't gank for shit, nor do much of anything else it seems. And my mid was too busy not getting killed by the Teemo (and not pushing mid either). Fuck if I know what the goddamn Olaf or Nocturne were doing.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on March 22, 2014, 01:23:19 PM
You ever have one of those games where you're doing well, not great, but well enough to not be a complete drain on your team... and then another lane drags you and your entire team down with it?

Yeah, that was me in a ranked game last night. I picked Gangplank, went top with a Singed. Mid was Leblanc, bot lane was Xin Zhao and Lulu. Singed and I faced off against a Sion who didn't seem to be all that good and their Lee Sin was jungling and came in for the occasional unsuccessful gank. We actually killed Lee once and Sion twice and I got one of the kills. I hadn't even died. I went back to buy stuff at one point and I see Lulu saying in chat that they are getting raped bot. So I figured I'd go help.

And thus began the end. Those two were fucking awful. In addition, they were faced off against a very canny Alistar/Vayne combo, and instead of harrassing Vayne, they seemed to just get knocked airborne, then knocked back then dead. And it happened to me. The lane just kept getting worse, and all my attempts to help just fucked all the other lanes and left me with a buttload more deaths than I should have taken. We should have surrendered at 20 but we didn't, and even when we finally caught up in levels, we still got owned hard in team fights because they had so much better items. Whereas if I'd stayed in my lane instead of helping the mental midgets, it might not have gotten so bad.

Lesson fucking learned.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on March 22, 2014, 01:27:53 PM
You ever have one of those games where you're doing well, not great, but well enough to not be a complete drain on your team... and then another lane drags you and your entire team down with it?




Pretty much describes most of my games.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on March 22, 2014, 01:46:30 PM
You ever have one of those games where you're doing well, not great, but well enough to not be a complete drain on your team... and then another lane drags you and your entire team down with it?

Yeah, that was me in a ranked game last night. I picked Gangplank, went top with a Singed. Mid was Leblanc, bot lane was Xin Zhao and Lulu. Singed and I faced off against a Sion who didn't seem to be all that good and their Lee Sin was jungling and came in for the occasional unsuccessful gank. We actually killed Lee once and Sion twice and I got one of the kills. I hadn't even died. I went back to buy stuff at one point and I see Lulu saying in chat that they are getting raped bot. So I figured I'd go help.

And thus began the end. Those two were fucking awful. In addition, they were faced off against a very canny Alistar/Vayne combo, and instead of harrassing Vayne, they seemed to just get knocked airborne, then knocked back then dead. And it happened to me. The lane just kept getting worse, and all my attempts to help just fucked all the other lanes and left me with a buttload more deaths than I should have taken. We should have surrendered at 20 but we didn't, and even when we finally caught up in levels, we still got owned hard in team fights because they had so much better items. Whereas if I'd stayed in my lane instead of helping the mental midgets, it might not have gotten so bad.

Lesson fucking learned.


If you can handle it, or somewhat enjoy it, find a good jungler (sorry, I can't remember if you stated hating it or not). There have been games where I have babysat a bad lane to victory, basically.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on March 22, 2014, 01:49:20 PM
You ever have one of those games where you're doing well, not great, but well enough to not be a complete drain on your team... and then another lane drags you and your entire team down with it?

Better feeling than going 11/6/13 (was 9/2 :x), winning your lane hard, team having a kill lead the entire game, and then seeing your botlane go 0/18 and make winning team fights impossible. How the fuck does a Vayne go 0/10?

Ohh and that Galio that you had down 0/4 and dominated? Finished 8/5.  :argh:  "Hey guys, there's Galio!  You know, it's a bad idea to bunch up like that.. yep, yep.. that was bad."

I swear, I get these premade that act all concerned about giving me a solo lane. I kick ass and their botlane always feeds to high hell.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on March 22, 2014, 01:52:16 PM
I seriously thought about jungling with GP in that game, and even had Singed leash me the blue to start the game. But I always feel bad about my jungling because I really don't do it well, I'm always behind in levels and so my ganks aren't remotely effective. The team really could have used a tank or a bot lane that didn't just get cockpunched from the get go.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Der Helm on March 22, 2014, 04:07:24 PM
I know I keep bragging about my Mordekaiser games, but this one steals the cake.


I spent the last 5 minutes at their Nexus and it was basically fisticuffs against them coming at me in pairs or solo. They never figured that I always have enough minions around to refresh my shields, regen my health with spellvam AND do tons of damage to them if they let me position myself.

And they always ignore the Souls I steal. Why would you ignore your own ranged AD carry plinking at you while you go after me ?

I recently learned to appreciate the shield Mordekaiser gets, it is like a supermean Sunfire Cape and even outdamages the self heal of Warwick. Sick.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on March 22, 2014, 06:13:36 PM
Went bot lane as Lulu with a vayne against a sion/yi and we just dominated bot lane.  Mid and top did ok but we were 6/1 in bot lane alone before the first tower dropped.  I think a lot of people just aren't used to what lulu can do, also once I learned to combo her E with her Q, her long ranged harass is SICK, put your fairy on an enemy creep and just blast away from a safe distance with impunity.
Ended that game 5/0/20


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Nightblade on March 24, 2014, 08:48:41 PM
Went bot lane as Lulu with a vayne against a sion/yi and we just dominated bot lane.  Mid and top did ok but we were 6/1 in bot lane alone before the first tower dropped.  I think a lot of people just aren't used to what lulu can do, also once I learned to combo her E with her Q, her long ranged harass is SICK, put your fairy on an enemy creep and just blast away from a safe distance with impunity.
Ended that game 5/0/20

Just bought Olaf.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/Blade111/NopeChuckOlaf.jpg)

I like losing despite having the entire enemy team literally running just from you.

Still he's a lot of fun once you get the hang of him, The axe is useful as a bush checking tool, but the slow leaves much to be desired.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on March 25, 2014, 01:06:54 AM
Heh, it's funny, I don't think I've ever gotten 20+ kills in a game yet.  

I just got asked to dodge because I picked Urgot for ranged ad.  Mmm, k.  Wasn't looking forward to the game as they were going to support me with Fiddle.

edit: Ohh, dominion.  Wasn't playing attention there.  

3-0 Lulu now. She can just rock a team fight like no one's business.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Nightblade on March 25, 2012, 11:20:52 AM
Heh, it's funny, I don't think I've ever gotten 20+ kills in a game yet.  

I just got asked to dodge because I picked Urgot for ranged ad.  Mmm, k.  Wasn't looking forward to the game as they were going to support me with Fiddle.

edit: Ohh, dominion.  Wasn't playing attention there.  

3-0 Lulu now. She can just rock a team fight like no one's business.

Everytime I try to play summoners rift in a pug I just want to drown something.

I dont know what's so bad about dominion though that it causes en masse bitching. It's actually helped to teach me to keep track of team fights better.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on March 25, 2012, 11:28:29 AM
Ohh, I've got nothing against Dominion.  I just don't play it.  No clue how things flow there or what's normal. 

I could probably benefit from playing it.  My ability to track my champs and position in team fights is fucking atrocious.   Some games it's good, but some games it's just beyond horrid.  I think this is partially why I'm so bad at ranged AD.  Only ranged AD I'm decent with in this respect is Kog, just because I'm always so conscious of where he is due to his fragility.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rokal on March 25, 2012, 04:24:09 PM
I'm so tired of everyone obsessing with trying to make their team match the current meta in normals. Immediately after getting queue-dodged because I was going to play Lee-sin top with a jungle Amumu and "Lee-sin sucks in lane" I ran straight into another idiotic player. Our Fiora and Lulu called bot, and our Ashe refused to play mid because "ashe sucks mid". Ashe was the one of the best mids in the game for over year! In most player's minds at this point, the only possible combo for bottom lane is ranged AD and a support. The ashe wanted me to play mid instead (Galio) and make our Fiora play top even though the Lulu/Fiora were a pre-made.

The ashe finally gives up bitching about what our team must do because it's what everyone else does, and we proceed to annihilate the other team.

Fiora/Lulu easily beat a MF/Soraka combo bot. Ashe does well against Cass mid because anyone with Boots can. Morde can't do anything vs my Galio top because Galio encourages heavy MR builds. His frequent Siphon use to keep up with my Resolute Smite poking pushes my lane up and opens him to a few easy ganks from our jungle WW.

After they conceded at the 25min mark I looked at our Ashe's match history: almost completely fully of losses with characters that are considered 'strong' in the current metagame.

I run into these idiots every day and as a consequence, most games play out exactly the same. It really seems like when I stopped playing (~6 months ago) people weren't so obsessed with 'popular' lane combos and the game was less boring as a result.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on March 25, 2012, 04:34:08 PM
I'm so tired of everyone obsessing with trying to make their team match the current meta in normals

The skill gap is so big in normals that the far and away most important thing is just not sucking.  However, most people suck and when they lose blame it on not following the meta game instead of actually learning to play better.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on March 25, 2012, 07:50:42 PM
I'm so tired of everyone obsessing with trying to make their team match the current meta in normals.

I understand exactly what you're talking about (and this is why I like playing Dominion these days). But a lot of this is people just sick and frustrated of games with uncooperative or terrible teammates, trying to defend themselves from

AP YI MID OR I FEED

And you know, defined roles give people a base.

Because for every game where a bunch of non-traditional roles work well, there's somebody who doesn't really want to play support or jungler 5th, and blows the game up.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on March 25, 2012, 08:24:07 PM
To be fair Lulu/Anyone is a good combo.

I was on a fairly losing game, mid and top both died repeatedly but me and jax bot held and then started to snowball at 6.  Ended the game as lulu with 11/3/23


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on March 25, 2012, 10:49:31 PM
Unless the Lulu or the player they are with sucks. I saw a Lulu/Xin Xhao combo just get DESTROYED bottom lane, to the point where I had to try to help the lane and got destroyed along with them.

Even in ranked, not following the meta is heavily frowned on, and every ranked game I've been in has been full of bitchy, whiny mongoloids who will blame their losses on everything but their own poor play.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on March 25, 2012, 10:53:51 PM
Unless the Lulu or the player they are with sucks. I saw a Lulu/Xin Xhao combo just get DESTROYED bottom lane, to the point where I had to try to help the lane and got destroyed along with them.

Even in ranked, not following the meta is heavily frowned on, and every ranked game I've been in has been full of bitchy, whiny mongoloids who will blame their losses on everything but their own poor play.

Ironically I JUST finished a game with me(lulu) and xin vs a gargoyle(why cant i remember his name?) and MF.  We did...ok, traded a couple deaths but not terrible, xin is definitely not the best lane partner for her.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on March 26, 2012, 01:10:19 AM
I've done something terribly wrong, and tonight is my punishment.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Setanta on March 26, 2012, 03:45:06 AM
Just did a Fiora/Lulu bot and as Fiora had a ball with the Lulu support.

Waiting for the nerf


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on March 26, 2012, 07:01:10 AM
More and more I find that her Q/E combo is deadly when done right. Just the extra range and complete safety it gives. Not to mention if you drop pix on someone then shoot your Q in the direction they are running, they will run right into the laser being fired off your own shoulder. It's just so satisfying to turn your enemies into your own personal turrets.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: MrHat on March 26, 2012, 08:10:46 AM
I've done something terribly wrong, and tonight is my punishment.  :awesome_for_real:

Win a few in a row and be prepared for a few losses.

Just the way it goes in my experience.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on March 27, 2012, 02:26:04 AM
Ended up being a 5 game drop before I got two in a row back.  Whenever I go too far over 50%, I seem to start drawing in the muppets.  Luckily after my last loss, I requeued and got the shitty jungler, shitty ranged AD (now top), and bad mid from my last game on the other team this time.  YAY.  I haven't seen a Kennen that plays him worse than I do, but that guy was possibly close.  

Now that Blitz free week is done, bot lane might be a bit less annoying.  Although, next week is free Urgot week.  I can't wait to see my ranged AD carries stand perfectly still so crab man can land his gas canister and harass them out of lane.

edit: Playing Soraka as a bully is a lot of fun when you actually can.   E + Q spam can really wreck face if they don't react to it properly.   Ended up bullying a Kog/Blitz lane with Vayne/Soraka.  That shouldn't happen.  *Beep boop* missed pull.

Also, Soraka is best played sparingly.  Maining her gets really boring, but she's great as a change up.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on March 27, 2012, 07:37:58 PM
So, I haven't played alone in quite a while, decided to do a blink pick, we had a decent makeup.  I choose Vayne and figure I'll be bottom with Lux because that seems reasonable.   The the mundo insisted on not soloing top once we get in game because he hasn't played him much before and so I ended up having to solo top Vayne.  You can imagine how that went.  And then I remember why I never play alone anymore, always good to have those reminders.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on March 27, 2012, 07:48:54 PM
I've played ranged AD top before (Kog), it's not that bad.  At least Vayne has her tumble, a knockback and pretty decent harass.  And her range would be less of an issue up there.  

Of course, when I tried Kog I got a very favorable matchup against Vlad.  Easy to zone. 





Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on March 31, 2012, 12:17:21 PM
LoL is really strange for me lately. I have either one of two types of games. If I'm playing ranked, I'm usually terrible, a drag on a team full of whiny shitbags who may only be slightly better at the game than I. If I play solo normal blind pick, I'm the best player on the team and carry us to victory or keep us in the game longer than we deserve. I've been learning Wukong in normal, and I am just raping people with him. My game last night, I was killing bottom lane with a derp fucktarded Yi who face checked into bad situations multiple times that resulted in me getting kills over his dead body. He even had Derp in the title and started being a shithead in char selection chat because people wanted him to choose an AP because we were so AD heavy. Between me, the non-English-speaking Volibear and Annie we were doing well despite our Xin and the Yi being a complete waste of space. Then the Xin ragequits because he's been sucking so hard, the Yi keeps disconnecting and reconnecting and despite me getting at least a kill sometimes two out of team fights, 3v5 really isn't conducive to victory.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on April 03, 2012, 01:13:43 PM
Jesus Christ, this is my hell of a life in unranked games lately.


The Karthus asks to be mid and I relent. I'm a nice guy. Be nice. Be nice.

Fuck. Karthus gets absolutely SHIT ON by Morgana mid. I can't say it would have been much different for me but it was really fucking terrible. Graves and I are doing a decent job bot lane against a not that great Karthus/Poppy combo. I'm up 3/1 by level 8 and Karthus is just whining that he can't win mid. So seeing as how Graves and I just took down the bot turret, I decide to come help him out. And the two of us get immediately rolled by Morgana. Finally, I decide to look at her level and see she's level FUCKING 12 while Karthus is 7, she's got over 100 CS while he's in the 30's. Just goddamn abysmal. The two of us try again and get steamrolled again and I say "F mid, I'm going bot again." Unfortunately, Graves has not been able to hold down the fort and it just starts to go HORRIBLY wrong. The Kong/Singed combo up top apparently didn't do much better but shit, it isn't like they could do much worse than the mid lane. The team immediately tries to surrender at 20, but I stall them for a few votes, mainly because I don't have time on my lunch hour to piss away one game and start another. Finally though they get 4 votes which didn't matter much because we weren't lasting much longer anyway.

Best player on my team, doing really well, try to go help some poor retard and the whole team just cascades into shit. The Wukong might have been ok but I never got enough of a glimpse of him to see it. He spent most of the game whining because I wouldn't surrender.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: pxib on April 03, 2012, 02:59:00 PM
I always vote for surrender when it comes up unranked. I'd rather by far have a short loss than the long painful slog of a possible win. Spending more time in what anybody on the team considers a lousy game is just asking for more of their grief.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: ezrast on April 05, 2012, 04:10:49 AM
Was playing Dominion (blind pick) and got a Rammus/Teemo duo who built nothing but boots, Shurelia's, and Zeals. I got a little annoyed because they were constantly running off while the rest of us fought for points and died 2v4, but eventually won anyway due to massive cheese.

Next two games, they wound up on the enemy team. I tattled their strat, corralled the team into playing heavy D, and beat them both times. Was a couple of close games, and I'm not sure we would have done it if not for having a global ult both times (GP then Ezreal). Makes me wonder what else you could do with that idea to move it a little bit beyond just all-in MS cheese.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on April 10, 2012, 10:15:15 AM
Actually played a bit last night, dominated first game as Jungle Cho...and had a rough go vrs. Riven up top as Singed. I proceeded to armor up and handle it, though.

I need to play more champs I think...I just find myself not wanting to embarrass myself or do bad, but in the end who cares?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on April 10, 2012, 10:48:49 AM
You know, I just play Dominion a few times with a champ, then take them into SR. That lets me get past the first part of the "what the heck do I do in a team fight" learning curve.

Actually, I generally just play Dominion these days. I really only play SR with arranged 5s. Sometimes I'll duo queue ranked, but even that tries my patience.

It's fast. It's fun.  :drill:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Johny Cee on April 11, 2012, 11:49:32 PM
So, picked this up last Friday... fun game.  Played the shit out of coop, got to know Shen, played my first 3 pvp games today:

Game one:  Got run over.

Game two:  We had one player not make into game until minute five, but the opposing side had a disconnect later.  Went 10/1/15 or something silly like that on Shen, and had the kill lead.  It's fucking laughable when you are so overleveled and overgeared that 3 guys will only haltingly chase you when you are standing in front of their nexus, because they know I will beat on them and run away a short distance to regen the little health they knocked off.

It's hilarious when one of the after match excuses by the opposing team was "shen was fucking unreal that game".  Didn't have the heart to tell them it was my second pvp game.

Game three:  Strange.  A Teemo and a melee champ were playing games in the bushes in bottom, and kept getting the edge in the down-to-your-fingernails fights.  Their side had to recall and our side had to rez.  Pretty much ignored minions.  Me and our Teemo hit mobs and did alot of running.  Things started to settle out as we'd push a tower and farm while the oppos ran around trying to score kills.

Despite still being negative K/D, the other side surrendered after they were pushed up to their inner towers and we started mowing them down and sticking together.


It's amazing how prevalent AIS (aggressive internet strategy) is in this game.... 

Sit in your fucking lane, get last hits, don't worry about anyone until you've outleveled and outgeared them enough you can score easy kills without having to recall back to rest up.  I'm not even sure that strategy even really matters at this level of play.

Also, I fucked up two straight 4 booster Sealed drafts on MODO so I'm staying away from that while I recover from the pain of $32 down the drain.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ozzu on April 12, 2012, 05:07:37 AM
I've been trying to learn some new champs recently. I've had a pretty major focus on Ziggs the last couple of days. That's a pretty fun champ to play. You can basically just dance around outside of the fight and bowl for kills with bombs. Plus, I like ulting from halfway across the map. Also, you can completely change a teamfight by just mining the area that it's taking place in. It's crazy how much damage those mines do.

On another note, I had one of those games that start out so badly that half the team is arguing over whether to surrender or not. I believe at one point, we were down in kills 38-19 or so. The game ended with us winning and the final kill totals being 42-35ish. The turning point? Everyone bought thornmail to neutralize Trynd who was raping us all over the map. After that, we just trounced them. Good times.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Der Helm on April 12, 2012, 05:11:31 AM
Nobody buys resists in unranked. It is awesome.  I just stack ArPen or MPen in runes/masteries and 1 (max. 2) items and then I do almost true damage with every hit.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: MrHat on April 12, 2012, 09:32:55 AM
I've been trying to learn some new champs recently. I've had a pretty major focus on Ziggs the last couple of days. That's a pretty fun champ to play. You can basically just dance around outside of the fight and bowl for kills with bombs. Plus, I like ulting from halfway across the map. Also, you can completely change a teamfight by just mining the area that it's taking place in. It's crazy how much damage those mines do.

On another note, I had one of those games that start out so badly that half the team is arguing over whether to surrender or not. I believe at one point, we were down in kills 38-19 or so. The game ended with us winning and the final kill totals being 42-35ish. The turning point? Everyone bought thornmail to neutralize Trynd who was raping us all over the map. After that, we just trounced them. Good times.

Ziggs is crazy fun. You can use your det pack to jump yourself over walls or gap close.

Unfortunately, a competent AP w/ gap closer hurts him pretty bad.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on April 12, 2012, 10:03:12 PM
I hate queue dodgers. And yet tonight, I dodged. Normal draft mode, first line in chat I typed was "Jungler." Then like 3 other people wanted jungle and of course, I'm last pick. So I say "Fuck it, I'll play whatever's left" and the first pick decides he wants to random pick. He gets Nasus and says, "So how do you build Nasus?" I asked him if he was serious and when he replied that he was, I dodged. My blood pressure cannot handle that much concentrated stupid.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ozzu on April 13, 2012, 12:42:26 AM
Ziggs is crazy fun. You can use your det pack to jump yourself over walls or gap close.

Unfortunately, a competent AP w/ gap closer hurts him pretty bad.

Ah. I was wondering just how useful those det packs were. It seemed like I was basically never using them. I'll have to try them out as a method of travel.

Something else I've noticed is that he seems to be more effective early than late. I tend to start out really well and then level out as the game progresses. He's still useful, but not the killing machine he is early.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on April 16, 2012, 11:13:04 PM
I just won a ranked game with a band of complete fucking retards, and the only reason we won is 2 of the opponents dropped connection at various times during the game. Just to give you an example of how stupid this team was, I was 2nd pick. First pick doesn't ban Morgana, despite us not having first champ pick and despite my warnings. He picks Udyr and announces he will jungle. So as 2nd pick, I grab Karthus because of course the opponents first pick is Morgana (2nd pick Gangplank). We get a Sona 3rd, then the 4th pick is an idiot who never says a word in chat despite repeated requests to find out what he's playing. 5th pick continually says he wants to play tanky Garen, which is fine, until 4th pick grabs Garen. 5th pick loses his shit but stays in. Finally, a second before time is up, he chooses Nasus. Ok, that seems like a good composition.

Then we go full retard. Udyr decides he wants to be cute and offers to trade with Nasus. Nasus accepts at the last minute. Udyr is stuck without smite and Nasus has smite. Udyr then proceeds to talk shit the WHOLE GAME, giving me hell for using my ult wrong (even though I ended up with an ok score considering it was ranked and I was up against Morgana mid). Nasus proceeds to jungle very very badly. Why continue to jungle just because you have smite? Why doesn't Udyr start jungling after level 3 or 4 when smite is barely an issue anymore? Only the goddamn Shadow knows because these two retards can barely string together a coherent thought. Udyr challenges Gangplank to a 1v1 and wins, then continues to talk shit. When we finally win, he claims to have carried us.

I am in ELO hell.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Goumindong on April 17, 2012, 12:01:56 AM
Nobody buys resists in unranked. It is awesome.  I just stack ArPen or MPen in runes/masteries and 1 (max. 2) items and then I do almost true damage with every hit.

Really? I don't find that to be the case at all?

I hate queue dodgers. And yet tonight, I dodged. Normal draft mode, first line in chat I typed was "Jungler." Then like 3 other people wanted jungle and of course, I'm last pick. So I say "Fuck it, I'll play whatever's left" and the first pick decides he wants to random pick. He gets Nasus and says, "So how do you build Nasus?" I asked him if he was serious and when he replied that he was, I dodged. My blood pressure cannot handle that much concentrated stupid.

Eh. i would not dodge an unranked for that. People have to learn champions sometimes.

I have dodged twice, once was on purpose as someone in our 5 made an error in their pick.

The other time i was like third pick and say "Hello, i kinda want to play ryze mid/top this game but can do other things if necessary". First pick immediately bans ryze.

Edit: Made a F13 channel in case any people want to have an easier way of communicating with the F13 people. Its "F13"


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on April 17, 2012, 12:10:07 AM
Yeah, my enjoyment of the game has returned since I've just hung out in a few channels, like 'reddit' and 'redditlfg', and just play arranged 5s. Even if it's with strangers, it's so much nicer and more fun to be on TS, chatting.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on April 17, 2012, 01:13:18 AM
I just had a game where the Ryze DC'd before he could trade me for Soraka.  I get in game and realize in the panic that I still had my ranged AD runes and masteries from my last game. Then in game I'm doing so bad against Xerath (we tried support Ryze) that we switch, and I eventually redo my item build.  LOLOLOL.  We win down 9 kills.  :roffle:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Mrbloodworth on April 17, 2012, 08:18:40 AM
Teemo sucks ass. I hate that little bastard. I can't ever seem to build a counter to him.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: MrHat on April 17, 2012, 08:37:46 AM
Teemo sucks ass. I hate that little bastard. I can't ever seem to build a counter to him.

Big badda boom.

Gotta get on an AP that blows him up.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on April 17, 2012, 09:43:47 AM
So I randomly bought Jarvan 4 after never playing him, and decided to try him out. Normal BLIND PICK. God, it's as bad as I remembered it to be. Somehow I manage to get top solo and completely bully the fuck out of Lee Sin. End up winning with a solid score of 5/3/5.

Next game, the retards were out in full force. Two guys call mid and insta lock, Kennen and Ryze. They fight the entire time. I decided I wanted to see the fireworks, and don't dodge. We have no jungler. It's me and Teemo top. We completely starve and crush the Mundo top, and somehow manage to win the game with four guys having flash/ignite and no support. Was actually a pretty wild game.

Then I tried Jungle Jarv. Yeah, I like Cho and Udyr way better in that role.....I sucked pretty hard and it just felt like I couldn't fuckin' hurt anyone.

Either way, I usually get an hour or two when the lady and babies are sleeping so hit me up evening EST if you wanna roll sometime. Me and Helm DOMINATE :)


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Goumindong on April 17, 2012, 01:42:46 PM
I feel sorry for you. I played one game last night and it was this



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on April 17, 2012, 02:08:57 PM
I actually find blind pick somewhat refreshing after normal or ranked draft. You often find lane combos and champs in lanes you would never see in the draft games because everyone is so insistent on the solo top/jungler/mid AP/ranged AD & support bot.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Goumindong on April 18, 2012, 11:54:49 AM
Got to play a game with RiotDarius last night. He is a pretty cool dude


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on April 18, 2012, 01:31:36 PM
Last night was the first time I had to /ignore my entire fucking team. It started in chat. One guy calls mid, so I call top even though I'd wanted to play mid (this was normal draft). I'm last pick so didn't figure there was even anything worth discussing. Well, #3 pick wants mid as well. So they spend the entire time we are doing bans yelling at each other in what amounted to "I want mid! NO ME!!!" One even starts with "Kids should get their ass kicked IRL" Internet tough guy routine. I got so distracted by this sideshow of fetal alcohol syndrome that when I picked Wukong, I didn't even change out my runes/masteries, so I still had my Morgana/Veigar/AP set of runes AND masteries. That means I'm starting way down on ArmPen/AD/AS. Fucking muppets. Of course, one picks Twisted Fate and the other Malazhan, so we have two AP mids. Finally, Malazhar accepts his role bot but they still spend all game bitching at each other.

So of course, matched up against Cho'Gath, I eat a couple of deaths in lane. Then I proceed to get bitched out for it by a jungling Gangplank who I never saw for a gank, and who ended up with fewer kills and only 1 death less than I did. Now I was sucking it hard, much of it because I really was off my game due to the runes/masteries issue. I tried to surrender at 20 because I really didn't want to be around these twats anymore and told them so, but of course, they wouldn't give up. 30 minutes later, we finally lose, but I had managed to turn it around and started rolling with some deaths in team fights. But I wanted to stab every one of my team member's faces and finally just put them on ignore once we got out to post-game chat. Wastes of my time.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Goumindong on April 18, 2012, 02:15:33 PM
you can put them on ignore in game too.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on April 18, 2012, 04:16:58 PM
Yeah, I know, I just didn't bother during the game. I felt like winding them up a little.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: K9 on April 19, 2012, 07:00:08 AM
This isn't me, but I found it entertaining

Blitzcrank pretends to suck then kills people (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh18m1Zl3l8&feature=g-vrec&context=G2ad55afRVAAAAAAAAAA)


(not sure where else to put this, we don't seem to have a Useless LoL Videos thread)


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on April 19, 2012, 08:24:34 AM
This isn't me, but I found it entertaining

Blitzcrank pretends to suck then kills people (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh18m1Zl3l8&feature=g-vrec&context=G2ad55afRVAAAAAAAAAA)

I'm curious to find out how many times he fails horribly at this for every time it works and just trolls his team giving up first blood.  :awesome_for_real:  Although maybe not that much since he seems to have lots of practice at it, multiple videos up now.

Still a cool video though.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on April 19, 2012, 09:33:56 AM
Those are hilarious. Of course, that whole strategy is dependent on having a non-muppet guy with some serious CC backing him up at just the right time.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Goumindong on April 19, 2012, 02:41:51 PM
This isn't me, but I found it entertaining

Blitzcrank pretends to suck then kills people (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh18m1Zl3l8&feature=g-vrec&context=G2ad55afRVAAAAAAAAAA)


(not sure where else to put this, we don't seem to have a Useless LoL Videos thread)

Probably the funniest are this and the one for Sona

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PWgjf2EHPc


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Furiously on April 19, 2012, 02:45:30 PM
I went all AP on Janna last night as a comedy fit.  "W" was taking like 1/4 of health bars on people. It was glorious. I think I had like 20 kills. I'm sure my team hated me.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on April 19, 2012, 02:56:14 PM
Last night's server hiccups were pretty unfavorable for draft games.  No chat servers were working.  I'm glad the one time I queued up for ranked, someone dodged.   I played a normal draft, where luckily I was just first pick and surprisingly enough everyone picked champs that made sense.

I played Wukong and didn't fat finger his ult once.   VICTORY.  I did notice myself using decoy when I didn't need to, however, and it once cost me a kill ("wait a second, why didn't I auto him.. FUUUUUCK").  So, room for improvement.   We were aided by an enemy Udyr that built boots of swiftness and two phantom dancers.  :ye_gods:  That guy's team was all over him.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: MrHat on April 19, 2012, 03:00:40 PM
I went all AP on Janna last night as a comedy fit.  "W" was taking like 1/4 of health bars on people. It was glorious. I think I had like 20 kills. I'm sure my team hated me.

Its so much fun to play those supports as full on AP.  People forget how much they wreck.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on April 19, 2012, 03:44:03 PM
I played Wukong last night too, but because of the chat, no one knew I wanted top. So this Galio decided he wanted top. Rather than start a pissing match, I went bot with Graves against a Twisted Fate/Leona pairing. Holy fuck, the TF was TERRIBAD. I had 5/0/1 and their turret was down in like 10 minutes. I started eating a lot of deaths despite being fed because I stopped farming for a bit and got underleveled. Still finished the game with the most kills 15/10/7 or something quite like it. The other team had a Skarner jungler that was pretty good and ended up turtling for a while to pick us off one by one.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Viin on April 21, 2012, 12:34:42 AM
Thankfully, this match was against an equally bad team. I felt like I was in a basketball game!

(http://photos.7mph.com/Other/misc/i-89tCdG4/0/L/lol20apr-L.png)


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Goumindong on April 21, 2012, 02:58:58 AM
I played Wukong last night too, but because of the chat, no one knew I wanted top. So this Galio decided he wanted top. Rather than start a pissing match, I went bot with Graves against a Twisted Fate/Leona pairing. Holy fuck, the TF was TERRIBAD. I had 5/0/1 and their turret was down in like 10 minutes. I started eating a lot of deaths despite being fed because I stopped farming for a bit and got underleveled. Still finished the game with the most kills 15/10/7 or something quite like it. The other team had a Skarner jungler that was pretty good and ended up turtling for a while to pick us off one by one.

TF is a really bad bottom lane AD(imo). He broadcasts his stun with pick a card and his AA range is really low.

He is good as an AP because his ult lets him capitalize on the mid game power AP focused champions tend to have


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on April 25, 2012, 06:49:02 PM
So Ive been focusing on Warwick a lot lately and while it's not uncommon for me to lead in kills by a hefty margin I'm also often leading in deaths, can't seem to get a handle on how not to die with him


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Goumindong on April 25, 2012, 09:20:00 PM
So Ive been focusing on Warwick a lot lately and while it's not uncommon for me to lead in kills by a hefty margin I'm also often leading in deaths, can't seem to get a handle on how not to die with him

Buy Guardian Angel. Otherwise the only way you're not going to die in a team fight is if the other side gets completely rolled.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Mosesandstick on April 26, 2012, 02:41:21 AM
Considering warwick is generally tanky, dieing is not a bad thing as long as you don't do it unnecessarily. Also try to disengage when you're low on health, and come back in when your Q's CD resets. Using your Q repeatedly can give you rediculous amounts of effective health.

Generally try not to be the first one in, especially because your ult is easily interruptible.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Goumindong on April 26, 2012, 01:28:34 PM
Considering warwick is generally tanky, dieing is not a bad thing as long as you don't do it unnecessarily. Also try to disengage when you're low on health, and come back in when your Q's CD resets. Using your Q repeatedly can give you rediculous amounts of effective health.

Generally try not to be the first one in, especially because your ult is easily interruptible.

This is bad advice.

Warwicks job is to stick on the carry and make sure they're harassed the entire fight. If that means your ult is interrupted, so be it, you're there for hard initiation and disruption. You are not a cleaner like Yi. If they use their CC on you then that is a good result in general because they're not using their CC on the carry. It is true that you, ideally, want to get your full duration ult on the carry [so a shorter duration stun to clear a qss/cleanse] but it is also true that you don't want their carry doing damage.

If the enemy team is holding back CC to use on you when you ult their carry they're not going to use it at the outset of the fight. And that means you're just delaying the small amount of CC you're going to get and allowing their carry to maximize damage over the early and more important parts of the fight.

The only reason you should not be the absolute first one on your team to dive into the enemy team is because you have another person with hard initiation, a hook, or they initiated on you.

It does mean you're going to die a lot, but that is OK. You die and your team gets kills.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Mosesandstick on April 26, 2012, 01:38:50 PM
Seriously?

Warwick is a weak initiator in large team fights. You're agreeing with most of my points whilst disagreeing with the end result. Unless you're facing a team with no CC do not go in first. Let a hero more suited to initiating do it. If you're facing a smart team and you initiate with your ult first you're just going to get CCed straight away!


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Goumindong on April 26, 2012, 07:16:19 PM
You should not be disengaging when you're low on health. And you should not be hanging back at the start of the fight. Neither of those are good ideas. You don't want to go in a full second before everyone else, but you want to be as close to first in as you can. If they have CC that they're going to use to stun you and stop your ult they're going to hold back its use and use it on you whenever you come in so delaying ulting onto their carry doesn't get you anything except you out of the fight [or having to run through their entire team] until the most crucial part of the fight is over.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: ezrast on April 27, 2012, 12:45:51 AM
Let a hero more suited to initiating do it.
The only reason you should not be the absolute first one on your team to dive into the enemy team is because you have another person with hard initiation, a hook, or they initiated on you.
I think what you disagree on is just whether such a hero typically exists on your team.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Mosesandstick on April 27, 2012, 02:15:46 AM
The number of heroes that can initiate better than warwick is pretty high.

Within small skirmishes Warwick can legitimately disengage. Buying small amounts of time can be extremely useful as Warwick, his Q has a moderately low CD and heals for insane amounts of health. Juking, going in/out, etc. Especially once you have blood scent activated. But this is a judgement call. Are you outnumbered? Can you stick to their carry?

Where and when you go in is again a judgement call. If you're facing a team with high amounts of AOE CC then rushing in is just going to waste your ultimate. If you're facing a team with targetted CC and they're saving it for you means that by virtue of saving your ult you are stopping them from utilising their skills.

Do not underestimate what Warwick's ultimate does. At level 18 with a wit's end it's 800 magic damage and 30% "life steal" in addition to the suppression. You can afford to get hit before you use it and you need to judge based on your team's and the opponent's team capabilities whether you want to risk sticking getting it interrupted early.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: K9 on April 28, 2012, 12:37:39 PM
Teemo's pretty fun isn't he.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on April 28, 2012, 01:34:37 PM
Yes, yes he is.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on April 28, 2012, 03:13:28 PM
His global taunt is pretty strong.  It might be hilarious to just one game build a complete tank Teemo. 


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on April 28, 2012, 03:48:26 PM
There's nothing quite like seeing a guy who just killed one of your teammates and escaped with a sliver or health run directly into the bush where you dropped a mushroom and die. I had to buy the Cottontail Teemo when it was on sale this past week because it's just so damn silly.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: K9 on April 28, 2012, 05:25:59 PM

Well this went better than I thought. Bot with Rammus, Teemo mid and Corki/Kat top. Rammus was pretty passive, but didn't seem to do anything dumb, and really came into it late game. Their shaco was tying to solo the map, and getting in most of his kills on Corki. Not sure if he was trying to jungle or what, but he rarely had buffs and wasn't doing much to help his team. Our Kat was pretty nasty, which pulled us through.

I do love Janna though, the number of escapes she has for herself and her teammates is awesome. Not so much sustain, but in clutch situations she's awesome


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on April 30, 2012, 09:41:06 AM
So I have been having a riot the last few days as Jungle Alistar. Holy cow, have I made some insane ganks. With voice coordination and a mid that can stun and burst, I made a Cass go 0-8. Turrets/flash can't protect you from an Ali / Sion beatdown. The amount of wards I get the other team to spend is worth it alone by mid game :) I just wish I recorded some of these. What makes it even better is I have have the Black Alistar skin from pre-ordering. So awesome.

So far Ali / Sion has been best. Annie was solid. Ryze was solid as well.





Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on April 30, 2012, 09:53:28 AM
I really need to practice the W-Q instacombo. How tough has that been for you to get?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on April 30, 2012, 09:57:22 AM
Can't do it.  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDMQZgSZjpU)


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on April 30, 2012, 10:44:25 AM
I don't even try. I kill using positioning, mainly. A head butt, they try to flash out I flash on them and Pulv. Or headbutt into a wall, my buddy stuns, I knock up, they die.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Samprimary on April 30, 2012, 10:50:53 AM
Played with a married couple over skype. Whenever I told wife she needs to stop farming top and get in place for a teamfight, husband would have to mewlingly re-ask her while trying to avoid obvious interpersonal conflict over telling her what to do in LoL. Whole game played as a psychological diagram of a dysfunctional relationship moreso than a game of lol.

We started getting raped about 25 minutes in because (SURPRISE) husband backed away from gently requesting his honey come back from farming side lanes when she snapped at him reflexively about messes in the kitchen as a reactive response to being criticized, so it was constantly 5v4 followed by lone guest star MF walking in late to die as well. Rinse, repeat.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Mosesandstick on April 30, 2012, 11:10:40 AM
Most reliable way to do a WQ, especially with higher latency, is to keep W on normal cast. Click w, get in range (i.e. right click if necessary), mouse-click target and immediately press Q.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on April 30, 2012, 11:31:39 AM
Though, I may practice it for initiation purposes.... I really have done so well I don't feel like changing up too much. My new thing is deciding if I should buy Oracles right after Mobility boots just to be an even more annoying bastard.

I love how I can be underleveled by a few and still be very effective (until all cooldowns are blown). I don't feel bad for ganking so much.

The best thing is, with ult and flash I will make you die. Nothing will stop the bull.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on April 30, 2012, 12:05:21 PM
I can't play Alistar at all.  Aggressive supports are not my thing.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on April 30, 2012, 12:10:22 PM
I can't play Alistar at all.  Aggressive supports are not my thing.

I was horrible with Ali for a long time, but something just clicked and now I have a hard time playing any other jungle. I haven't really played him as support in a long time, but I know I'll be better at him than I was just from practice with his skills (and having a proper support build).

I really need to branch out from the jungle/supp/top stuff and start practicing carries. It's been so long since I played them (I have never been dominant with them so I played what I enjoyed instead)  that I might be able to do better just from general skill improvement and game knowledge.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ashamanchill on April 30, 2012, 02:30:43 PM
I've been rolling recently as jungle skarner. I duo queue with a guy who plays twitch, in any lane actually, and the combo is the absolute best we've ever came up with in our 4k or so combined games. I'm absolutely floored at how well it's been working.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on April 30, 2012, 03:59:29 PM
I haven't done him as a jungler, but Alistar is just an awesome lane partner. I like playing him because my usual aggressive playstyle isn't hurt too bad by him. I even got compliments in a ranked game where I was getting constant DC's as Alistar because late game I made HUGE CC contributions to team fights.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on May 01, 2012, 11:21:43 AM
I don't know why I keep abusing myself by playing ranked. First, I'm lucky if I only have 1 or 2 queue dodgers before I get in a game. Last night's started off so well in chat, as our 1st and 3rd pick both wanted to play top and both decided to be fucking douchenozzles about it. The 1st pick finally picked Xin and set up as a jungler, and I think put our 3rd pick (who went with Teemo for top) on ignore. Lovely. He also spent all chat talking about how top will get no ganks from him. Great. I pick Cait and have a Soraka to bottom lane with me. We leash blue for the jungler, then I head to bot lane. Soraka decides she wants to grab their blue, then help our Ryze against Veigar in mid lane. That leaves me stuck bot with a Sona/Gangplank combo, who proceed to first blood my ass. I chastise Soraka in chat and she finally heads to bot, but most of the early lane game she wanders to mid, even switching with Ryze at one point. And of fucking course, at level 4, the douchejungler Xin who only tried one gank bot, disconnects and never comes back. We fought them off for a while, but the Gangplank got fed, I often ran up 2v1/3v1/3v2 in the bot lane and could never get enough good farm going to get in stride. And naturally, the team wouldn't surrender, the Teemo runs around KSing everybody but not generally doing much other than upping his kill count. Fuckers.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on May 01, 2012, 11:43:24 AM
Guide to playing ranked: don't play ranked.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on May 01, 2012, 11:50:11 AM
I think I must have a masochistic streak. I don't consciously think I like punching myself in the balls, but I keep trying to get out of sub-1000 elo hell.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on May 01, 2012, 12:24:26 PM
Playing ranked I feel like the one nice guy in a sea of assholes.   At least in normal draft, everyone is a bit less butt hurt about what goes on and way less trolly in champ select.  Now if they'd only change the selection order in normal draft, I'd be happy for life.

Of course, now I'm rarely out of bot lane being 5th or 4th pick all of the time.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on May 01, 2012, 12:34:42 PM
I think I must have a masochistic streak. I don't consciously think I like punching myself in the balls, but I keep trying to get out of sub-1000 elo hell.

I think your best bet is to play less of a variety of champs in ranked. Focus down on a few champs, all of whom have good early snowball potential, and can dominate a game.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on May 01, 2012, 12:39:51 PM
Rasix, I see ya on quite a bit. I play around 9:30 EST (for a game or two, occasionally staying up pretty late) and usually have 1-3 other guys. We have fun games, noone gets butthurt, and we win a lot. Voice via vent or skype if that's your thing, if not no biggie. I usually run jungle. The other guys play whatever.

This is an open invite to anyone that's level 30, and is sick of dealing with idiots that aren't me.

Also, I'd like to get back to Theorycrafting some teams and running 5 mans. I'm pretty close just from my RL friends, and regular LoL buddies. Hit me up if you play around my time and would be interested.


EDIT: Hat is right. It worked for me at least. http://www.reignofgaming.net/tier-lists/solo-tier-list

Solid list of guys that can really win games.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on May 01, 2012, 01:43:17 PM
Yeah, I can't believe I've only played with you the once, Slayerik. I'll totally hit you up more. I've been playing mostly games with redditors, and it's nice and relaxing. I'm on a decent streak in ranked too, but I keep to only duo queues with that. Having somebody to talk to helps the sanity a lot.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on May 01, 2012, 01:57:25 PM
I tend to play pretty late, anywhere from 9-10PM AZ time (PST right now).  Most aren't on when I do play. 

You were on last night Slay, I should have bugged you.  Then I know you're busy a lot with family stuff so I don't want to bug you.  I'll shoot you a tell at least next time I see you're in between games.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on May 01, 2012, 02:11:10 PM
Yeah, I think I left the client on though (son is/was sick, only got 2 quick games in last night : ). I Quit drinking, it's been 1 month. This is my release. That and the occasional medicinal smoke. Hahah

Feel free to say hey. If I'm on the wife and kids are sleeping and I get some Slay time!

Probably best to do this fairly soon as I imagine I'll be pretty hooked on D3 (which I'll also be quite game to roll with y'all in)


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on May 01, 2012, 02:13:52 PM
I'll be in Tel Aviv starting Thursday until next Sunday.  Then, yah, D3 in a few days.  I'll be there with you.  :grin:

For low ELO, I think the best strat is to hope for your best champ in your best role, because that's all you're ever going to go against.  People have a really limited champion pool they're comfortable with at low ELO but can actually be pretty damn decent with them.  Don't worry too much about counter picking or being counter picked.  It's just whomever can get the early lead and prevent their team from throwing too hard.  

Also a certainty in low ELO, when your lane partner goes MIA: some dipshit on your team that doesn't ward is going to die.  

edit: 

Until I get better with certain champs, I think my roster for ranked is:

Top:  Irelia, GP, Olaf, Udyr, Wukong
Mid: Ryze, Swain (pretty sure I could Gragas or Ziggs if the team comp is OK for it)
AD carry:  Cait, Kog (during free week)
Support: Soraka, Taric, Lulu
Jungle: Udyr, Olaf, GP

Many other champs that I have and can kind of play.  Some that I'm rusty with.  Dusting off a champ in ranked is a good way to feed, however.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on May 02, 2012, 01:48:30 AM
First bad mannered team in a long time.  I was playing Cait and got zoned really hard by a Graves/Soraka combo.  I pretty much couldn't CS at all and got no jungle support.

Janna: "You should have let me AD"
Me: "I asked in champ select and you didn't say a goddamn thing" (this is after a whole lot of shit from this Janna)
Janna: "Ohh, now it's my fault"
Janna: "Fucking premades"
Me: "I'm not in their premade."

Plus Janna was giving me minute by minute updates on how far ahead Graves was. Meanwhile, she's trying to actively take CS and is tornado'ing pretty much every wave.  Then turret goes down and with Soraka, Graves freezes the lane deep.  WEEE. 

And you know what? Still had highest CS on team and only died once.  Fucking kids. Love it when the premade takes every solo role and sticks two solos at bot.  Never goes well, especially when their first picks are the bot lane.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Thrawn on May 02, 2012, 08:31:19 AM
Janna: "You should have let me AD"
Me: "I asked in champ select and you didn't say a goddamn thing" (this is after a whole lot of shit from this Janna)
Janna: "Ohh, now it's my fault"

Yes, it is his fault.  :uhrr:

My favorite are always the people who just say they were AFK the entire time for champion select like that is a viable excuse to screw up all the picks and just lock in a last second 5th pick demanding a lane/role that someone already filled.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on May 24, 2012, 01:47:18 AM
I just went like 17-4-9 with Cass in ranked, I've been on a tear, up to 1563 elo now. Up until mid game I was 1-1-2, then I just went off on everyone. Got a quadra kill that would have been a penta but their ashe ran away, then got another quadra, then their entire team chased me across half the map for 30 seconds while I kited them all, doing 50% damage to each of them while my team destroyed their base.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on May 24, 2012, 02:11:25 AM
Nice!  I have played in 3 weeks.  I'm almost afraid to drop back in, although this latest patch addressed one of my biggest gripes (pick order in Normal draft).  Now that I've beaten D3, perhaps it's time..


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Boedha on May 24, 2012, 06:18:09 AM
I started playing a few weeks ago on EUW. Really enjoying it so far.
Vayne is my main char for now, quite easy to be good with, but still a long while to go before I get everything out of Condemn. First Pentakill was a rush :).
From the current free rotation, I played mostly Varus and Volibear. As I'm leveling I do notice that games tend to be over more quickly. In several of my last games I was doing very OK in my lane, and about 20 minutes in the other team starts to completely dominate the game.
BTW, anyone has any idea why the majority of Ashe players are such dicks?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Mosesandstick on May 24, 2012, 06:44:03 AM
Probably because the majority of players are dicks and everybody can afford the 450ip for Ashe.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: pxib on May 24, 2012, 03:22:05 PM
Ashe players like it when they get those arrow hits all the way across the map. It makes them feel like genius badasses. When they fail, they like to blame other players for not standing still or for running the wrong way... but they can't do so because it makes them sound insane.

Instead they get very, very bitter and complain about everything else. Like somebody stealing their last kills when they KNOW that Ashe would get 5 more gold for them than they do.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on May 24, 2012, 03:25:40 PM
I've actually found most Ashe players to be absolutely mute. They so rarely talk in my games.

I've been trying a number of champs lately. Shaco can be quite fun but also frustrating as hell. My first game with him I went like 0/14/5 or something, just atrocious numbers. Then I got better, though I'm nowhere near being ready to take him into ranked even at my shitty elo level. I got Amumu but still don't quite get him yet. Olaf is a goddamn beast. He may be my new favorite top.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on May 24, 2012, 03:49:49 PM
Ashe players.. so many Boots of Swiftness. FFS. 

Ashe with default skin: feeder.

Ashe with different skin: fucking beast.  Might still feed.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on May 24, 2012, 04:32:24 PM
I was playing Shaco today and had someone question why I bought magic resist boots instead of the boots of mobility. I've tried a build with boots of mobility and I really like having the extra magic resist and tenacity. Am I just nuts?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Muffled on May 24, 2012, 08:55:59 PM
Merc's treads have a place on nearly any champ, depending on what team you're against.  If the other team doesn't have multiple crowd control effects that you can't avoid by juking (I'm looking at you, Fiddle) then you should be going mobility for the extra ganking ability and control of map objectives.  I'm assuming you're mainly roaming and jungling when you play Shaco here.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Boedha on June 12, 2012, 06:42:30 AM
I have learned to be wary of players with custom skins. I really don't understand, half of them seem to suck monkeyballz.

Lvl 26 now and I play a decent-to-good Vayne. If I don't get connection problems (damn you 3G internet!) I get at least a few kills early in game. By the time I have my Infinity Edge I'm a force to be reckoned with. The key, I feel, is to first build AD, and only after the IE start to worry about attackspeed. Also, if you can, buy the green potion early and often.
I seem to have gotten the hang of playing (most) AD carries.
As off-tank/tank I also enjoyed Vollibear a lot when he was free, I'll think I'll buy him when he's on sale.
Malhazar seemed a good mid AP when he was free. Right now I'm mainly playing Annie in that role.
Still looking for a support that fits me, looking forward to playing Taric.
I stayed away from jungling for now, but if Skarner is free it's maybe the time to start.

Anyway, still enjoying myself. Although the occasional team-induced rage seems to get more frequently.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on June 12, 2012, 09:58:34 AM
The team-induced rage goes up as you get into ranked games. I've never enjoyed a game more that made me want to commit genocide.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Goumindong on June 13, 2012, 03:48:26 PM
Ashe players.. so many Boots of Swiftness. FFS. 

Ashe with default skin: feeder.

Ashe with different skin: fucking beast.  Might still feed.  :why_so_serious:

I play default skin Ashe like a beast

http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/487265/


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Nightblade on June 16, 2012, 07:37:02 PM
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/48093114/Downs.jpg)

 :uhrr:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: ezrast on June 16, 2012, 07:41:14 PM
Why do you build Kayle that way, and how do you skill her?

Honest question because I love Kayle but I never see anyone build her the way I do.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Nightblade on June 16, 2012, 07:52:16 PM
Why do you build Kayle that way, and how do you skill her?

Honest question because I love Kayle but I never see anyone build her the way I do.

I was just experimenting with a tanky build, though I did make the mistake of starting with a prospectors item there.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on June 26, 2012, 12:09:44 PM
Been playing a new smurf to get a feel for the game after not playing for a while.  Such a cess pool.  Every game is riddled with AFKs and leavers.

Still, having some fun with champs I never play like Teemo and Kayle.  Kayle is a massive lane bully.  She's a little more difficult to hard carry with than Teemo.  Teemo snowballs pretty hard at this scrub/fake-scrub level.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on June 26, 2012, 12:13:52 PM
Teemo snowballs big time even in ranked, unless played by a muppet. Kayle can be just fucking shutdown levels.

I played a blind pick game last night as MF and saw a Leona on the opposite team do a serious skullfucking. She repeatedly would just lock me down and have her way with me. After playing Graves or Caitlyn for so long as the ranged ad carry, I forgot just how squishy MF is.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on June 30, 2012, 02:19:22 AM
Had some guy with the new Pulsefire Ezreal skin in a game with my smurf.  He proceeded to build a wriggles, boots of swiftness and a manamune...  

Money well spent.  :facepalm:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Nightblade on June 30, 2012, 07:23:58 AM
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/48093114/Tayle.jpg)

So while trying to make tank kayle, I said screw it and made this kayle instead.

It's actually very effective in dominion, I can shred the crap out of the opponents defensive stats in a very short amount of time.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: ezrast on June 30, 2012, 10:35:10 AM
My typical Kayle build is full AS with Zerks, Malady, WE, IS, Kitae's, Cleaver, the philosophy being that you don't need to be tanky if nobody can live through three seconds of your autoattacks. Something like Thornmail  (maybe Frozen Heart too) help a lot with tanky dps though and taking tank masteries seems to be very useful for bullying, especially bottom lane, so it's not a perfect philosophy. I wouldn't buy Abyssal Scepter since mages are generally best dealt with by just piling on more damage.

Then again, your thing seems to be working out well for you. I might try it.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Nightblade on June 30, 2012, 11:03:44 AM
My typical Kayle build is full AS with Zerks, Malady, WE, IS, Kitae's, Cleaver, the philosophy being that you don't need to be tanky if nobody can live through three seconds of your autoattacks. Something like Thornmail  (maybe Frozen Heart too) help a lot with tanky dps though and taking tank masteries seems to be very useful for bullying, especially bottom lane, so it's not a perfect philosophy. I wouldn't by Abyssal Scepter since mages are generally best dealt with by just piling on more damage.

Then again, your thing seems to be working out well for you. I might try it.

The last two items are kind of a toss up. My core build is the first four items. My masteries are 21 / 9 / 0, taking both armor and magic pen and some tanky talents. I use attack speed reds, armor yellows, magic resist per level glyphs and move speed quints. Im thinking of adding a gunblade at the end to see how well that works, but the extra survivability throws people for a loop and helps.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on July 01, 2012, 12:41:33 AM
Team I just queued with says Kayle is support only.   :facepalm:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Nightblade on July 01, 2012, 06:06:27 PM
Team I just queued with says Kayle is support only.   :facepalm:

That reminds me, on one of the featured streams on the front page, I noticed a game with kayle in it. I thought to have a look in there to see how the "pros" do it. Went in, surprised to see a dominion game, I click on kayle and see her doing miserably. Getting caught constantly, building crappy items, but the point is why was there a dominion game on the browser? Is dominion being plated competitively now?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on July 02, 2012, 09:54:18 AM
Yeah, just tell them Dyrus play critamat (crit + tiamat) Kayle in tournaments, and all is well.

There's Dominate Dominion, which I've watched once or twice, and was really fun. (and wow, are they good at dominion)


Also: Revive, the most powerful summoner spell in Dominion. Who knew?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on July 02, 2012, 10:00:02 AM
Yeah, just tell them Dyrus play critamat (crit + tiamat) Kayle in tournaments, and all is well.

There's Dominate Dominion, which I've watched once or twice, and was really fun. (and wow, are they good at dominion)


Also: Revive, the most powerful summoner spell in Dominion. Who knew?


I asked them if they watched a lot of competitive LoL.  

"Tons."   :facepalm:

Me playing AP mid on my smurf is just cheating, especially during LeBlanc free week.  Most free week LeBlanc's don't even harass with their Q.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on July 02, 2012, 10:42:17 AM
Last game I went from having a 4-0 kogmaw bottom and a 6-0 team total o losing horribly all because one guy HAD to play graves bot lane with me and spent the whole game complaining about his lag. ><


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on July 02, 2012, 10:55:16 AM
Wait, Graves and Kog'maw bot? Why... why would you even do that? Granted, you could pump out some major damage, but Kog's sustain is often shit early game and Graves won't help that one bit. I assume he was last pick and just didn't want to do anything else?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on July 02, 2012, 11:23:16 AM
non draft unfortunately. I was 4-0 literally 5min into the game too. Their bot shen/teemo were that dumb.  we should have had our shen go bot and graves top but graves insisted on bot, also that i was stealing all his kills, which made me faceplam cause they all came from him facechecking the bush and me bailing him out.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Nightblade on July 05, 2012, 07:28:18 PM
Holy crap malphite is fun, landing that perfect ult is satisfying, and by the sounds of it Malphite Agrees with me.

Movement speed quints + initiatior + move speed relic + Q = tough as hell tank with a decently damaging AOE / debuff and self steroid zipping around all over the f'ing place.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Nightblade on July 19, 2012, 09:42:21 PM
You know whats fun about getting stuck with a dumb teammate that blames you for his bad play? Getting to play against him and mopping the floor with him in the next game.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/48093114/RetardXII.jpg

It's the Galio, we had a bad team but he wasn't very good himself when I played with him. He never initiated fights and always just hunted last kills. Bragged about his 1700 ELO but fails to realize that means dick in dominion. Call's me bad all game and ignores the twitch who gets caught in obvious traps. Anyway, next game we play together, he trash talks all by calling me a pussy then muting me... and my team proceeds to stomp his. He does a poor job again and then afks for about half the match.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: luckton on August 31, 2012, 09:09:48 PM
So I played for the very first time tonight.  Took Teemo out for a couple romps vs the AI beginner.  I think I did well...died plenty enough to learn how to kite in and out, but once I got the hang of things and bought the right gear I was doing pretty well.

Will have to play some more and see what's what.  Maybe take Katarina out next.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: luckton on September 01, 2012, 07:09:05 PM
Had some more fun with Teemo.  Making progress; just had my first game where I killed a bot before it killed me  :awesome_for_real:

Judging by the lack of activity here, is anyone still playing this?  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: OandA on September 01, 2012, 07:11:40 PM
Had some more fun with Teemo.  Making progress; just had my first game where I killed a bot before it killed me  :awesome_for_real:

Judging by the lack of activity here, is anyone still playing this?  :why_so_serious:
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Right now I play GW2, but I drop in for a few games every now and then.


And now "STOP PLAYING BOT GAMES"  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on September 02, 2012, 12:40:56 AM
I play at least one game every day. Handle is HaemishM.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Goumindong on September 02, 2012, 07:43:14 PM
Had some more fun with Teemo.  Making progress; just had my first game where I killed a bot before it killed me  :awesome_for_real:

Judging by the lack of activity here, is anyone still playing this?  :why_so_serious:
I play a game a day or so. My summoner name is Goumindong and I hang out  in the f13 chat channel when I am on, though I am only ever the only one in there [I have join on start and don't really care to change it]


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: luckton on September 05, 2012, 12:26:14 PM
New week, so new free champ rotation.  Currently going back and forth between Vayne and Cait; I seem to have quite the knack for these AD Carry types  :grin:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on September 05, 2012, 03:04:12 PM
AD carry is probably the most straight forward role. Stand back, pick target, build up AD/ArmPen/Crits/AS (depending on champ), melt faces. Hardest part is learning when not to be too aggressive.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Goumindong on September 05, 2012, 06:49:57 PM
New week, so new free champ rotation.  Currently going back and forth between Vayne and Cait; I seem to have quite the knack for these AD Carry types  :grin:

I saw you get smoked by that Darius today


If you're looking for a cheap ADC to pick up, Ashe is 450 IP and plays similarly to Cait [less poke, more kite, less safe due to no escape] and will teach you a number of valuable lessons other carries might not. Trist is free [or 1350 Ip] if you're willing to whore yourself out on FaceBook.

Sivir is also cheap [450 IP] and will teach you the basics of ability weaving, which is an essential skill for many ADC's and is very strong but very unforgiving[if you can't use your spell shield effectively you can't play Sivir].

I may also be able to log onto a smurf and play with you if you're on.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on September 05, 2012, 06:58:36 PM
Legitimate noobs are unable to deal with Cait, at least they were when I started playing.  It was easy to go something like 10/0/x (and I suuuuuck at ranged AD) because you'd get stupid lane assignments against people that would just stand there and let you plink on them.  Plus, every once in a while you'd mid where you'd just hard counter most APs just based on your auto attack range.

I just hate playing ranged AD low level because there will be times where no one will support, so you have some idiot Yi eating all your CS. 

"This Ashe.  No damage"
"That's because I have no farm, dingleberry."


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: luckton on September 05, 2012, 07:31:48 PM
New week, so new free champ rotation.  Currently going back and forth between Vayne and Cait; I seem to have quite the knack for these AD Carry types  :grin:

I saw you get smoked by that Darius today


If you're looking for a cheap ADC to pick up, Ashe is 450 IP and plays similarly to Cait [less poke, more kite, less safe due to no escape] and will teach you a number of valuable lessons other carries might not. Trist is free [or 1350 Ip] if you're willing to whore yourself out on FaceBook.

Sivir is also cheap [450 IP] and will teach you the basics of ability weaving, which is an essential skill for many ADC's and is very strong but very unforgiving[if you can't use your spell shield effectively you can't play Sivir].

I may also be able to log onto a smurf and play with you if you're on.

Ugh, that fucking Darius was a bitch.  Even with the team all together, he smoked all of us.  Lux had his back too, so double  :uhrr: :uhrr:  It wasn't a matter of bad kiting or skills; the beast was just too outgeared, supported, and unstoppable.

Edit: Thanks for the heads up on Tristana.  I'll give her a go :D


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Goumindong on September 05, 2012, 11:07:51 PM
Also Alistar if free if you subscribe to their facebook channel. Alistar is a bit tough[not that tough once you know the secrets] to get down and also like perma banned.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on September 06, 2012, 03:50:28 PM
Darius a mothefucker when played right. I, however, have yet to play him right. He can put a serious beatdown at times, but I'm doing something wrong with him that I haven't quite figured out yet.

Alistar is a very good support tank, and he can even be a killer in his own right in capable hands.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Goumindong on September 07, 2012, 01:34:19 AM
Darius a mothefucker when played right. I, however, have yet to play him right. He can put a serious beatdown at times, but I'm doing something wrong with him that I haven't quite figured out yet.

Alistar is a very good support tank, and he can even be a killer in his own right in capable hands.

Once you have alistar's e,q combo and his q range you will be a terror. The best initiate is flash, w, headbutt enemy into your team [Or run at them, headbutt, w them into your team]

Also as an aside, I have been having all of the fun as AP teemo lately. He has such a surprising amount of burst and great sustained damage.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on September 08, 2012, 10:18:33 AM
Once you have alistar's e,q combo and his q range you will be a terror. The best initiate is flash, w, headbutt enemy into your team [Or run at them, headbutt, w them into your team]

Q is knockup, W is headbutt, E is heal.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: luckton on September 11, 2012, 03:51:20 PM
The game is still keeping me entertained, and should last right up to next week when the MoP pre-launch stuff goes live. 

I found Tristana to be pretty decent once I got my head wrapped around her play-style.  Managed to get a Quad-Kill in one match.  Her late game turret-busting and crowd-pleasing Q is decent, and jumping around with W is fun.

I didn't want to give up on melee style, so I tried one more champ; Garen.  OMG  :ye_gods:   :heart:  What he lacks in CC and ranged stuffs he makes up for in just being a brute when geared right.  Still working on containing my wrath and not chasing after champs that are less than a bar away from dying ( goddamned turrets >_< ), but he's who I go for every time for right now, unless everyone else picked melee.  Then I just bring out Tristana and go to town.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: luckton on September 24, 2012, 07:33:14 PM
Looks like my LoL venture ends at summoner lvl 13.  For now, anyways.  MoP goes live tomorrow and I can't think of anything else I'm going to play.

Ending on a high note though; picked up a few champions to play around with over the last couple weeks...

- Graves is alright.  I'm not much of a fan of skill-shots, but once I got the hang of sprint-hasting my auto-attacks I racked up the kills.

- Mordekaiser was fun when I had proper support or was supporting a tank/someone who knew WTF they were doing.  When that happened, yeah, tons of fun poking people with SoD.  Carried the mid a number of times without issue until the mid-late game picked up.

- Garen was great when the enemy didn't have hard CC or didn't armor up too well.  Otherwise it was like playing a vanilla Paladin in WoW, which was not all that fun.  Still, the times it worked were awesome.

- Did AD Tristana at the start when I was learning the game and all.  Once I got a handle on her skills and did more digging, I tried my hand at AP Tristana.  Something about assassinating people with Rocket Jumps is just oh so gratifying.  Made her very glass cannon, but it surprised a number of people.  Buster Shot was basically an IWIN button.

- With the last bit of IP I had, I checked out Yi for a couple games.  Like Trist, I tried my hand at AP-boosted Alpha Striking.  A few triple and quad kills later, and I was a fan  :awesome_for_real:

Can't believe I didn't get into this game sooner when ya'll were jamming this sub-forum.  Will still play when WoW's down, but yeah, to the back burner we go!


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Bzalthek on September 30, 2012, 09:23:57 PM
I really like Heimerdinger.  He and Gragas are the only toons I own atm, but when I'm fleeing from an enemy (which is usually the case) laying down turrets on the run can really turn the tide since all they can see is my low health and they underestimate those little buggers.  Throw in some missiles and game over.  Had a teemo run into that twice today and auto-rage attacked me for the rest of the game.   I'm down to one or two games a day (the get bonus IP) because I'm so damn bad though.  I started telling people I have downs syndrome.  Well not really, but I'm this close.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on October 19, 2012, 02:00:38 AM
Started playing again after being inspired by the season 2 finals.  Just a game or two a day and keeping it simple with Gangplank, Nunu, Ryze and Kayle on my lower level account.  Luckily during Ezreal free week, everyone wants to play ADC. 

My GP is still really effective. Won 6 in a row this week.  I've mostly been carried, but I haven't really had a poor game yet.  Poor farm sure, but my play has been relatively solid.  I'd say half my games were down bad early.  Even won with some 1700 ELO Riven on the other team that had 4 kills in around the first 5 minutes (she went like 25/7 or something equally absurd).  Seems like solo roles are available in almost every game. People are generally being nicer as well. 

Small sample, I'm sure it'll go to shit soon.  :awesome_for_real:

Unrelated, why the hell did they make Twisted Fate so friggin' tall. Looks weird as hell.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: MediumHigh on October 19, 2012, 09:20:31 AM
I've noticed people generally don't rage as much as they used to. As long as you play an established role people don't get fits for no reason beyond their massive dildo sized egos.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on October 19, 2012, 11:51:26 AM
I've noticed people generally don't rage as much as they used to. As long as you play an established role people don't get fits for no reason beyond their massive dildo sized egos.


You must be playing in different games than me. My last two weeks have been full of raging twats, trolls, fucktards and players worse than me. I had a two week run where I won almost every game before that, then it all went to shit again. Played a game as GP in blind and won despite the fact our Yi wouldn't talk, never teamed up and was generally only useful to backdoor turrets before getting gangfucked. He ended up like 2/11 or some shit. Luckily the other team was full of terrible players as well including an Ezreal who talked shit the whole game but didn't really do a lot.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: MediumHigh on October 22, 2012, 09:33:15 PM
I've noticed people generally don't rage as much as they used to. As long as you play an established role people don't get fits for no reason beyond their massive dildo sized egos.


You must be playing in different games than me. My last two weeks have been full of raging twats, trolls, fucktards and players worse than me. I had a two week run where I won almost every game before that, then it all went to shit again. Played a game as GP in blind and won despite the fact our Yi wouldn't talk, never teamed up and was generally only useful to backdoor turrets before getting gangfucked. He ended up like 2/11 or some shit. Luckily the other team was full of terrible players as well including an Ezreal who talked shit the whole game but didn't really do a lot.

Just had a game with no jungler and 4 AP carries at champ select. No bitching, no whining, tons of joking and wondering why we were winning. Close game but we followed objectives and fought every inch for each other. Wished I screen shot to prove it but I wasn't thinking of this thread. + 3 honor for playing support fiddle sticks. Completely random strangers. First time I gave everyone on my team honor.

And Ryze top was 0/4 in 10 minutes and no one cared.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on October 22, 2012, 11:20:11 PM
Just had a game where we win a level 1 fight 4-3 with me getting a double kill on GP.  They first blooded us, but were fighting really deep in our jungle, past our red.  This allowed the players that died to hop back in, plus, I was given enough time to make my way back from top. 

Laning got even easier when after I backed, Jax decided to duel me.  I think something snapped in his head, because he kept trying to kill me.  Needless to say, they surrendered at 20.  Their botlane got destroyed as well.

Their team comp was Xin, Jax, GP, Mundo and Vayne.   It could work, but you have win early and win hard.  Preferably before people buy chain vests.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on October 27, 2012, 02:39:40 AM
Just had 67 minute game as... support.  Surprised we won a game where we had a support jungler (Maokai) and me on Nunu, while they were floating 3 bruisers and 2 carries. (no ADC, however).   

Everyone got to enjoy their 6 item builds, while I had to keep a slot open for wards and just be a big useless tank.  Still, snowballs help and a bloodboiled caitlyn is a nasty, nasty sight.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: MrHat on November 09, 2012, 03:58:11 PM
So for the last few weeks I've been playing Proving Grounds ARAM pretty much exclusively.

So much fun.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on November 13, 2012, 09:20:57 PM
Just had 67 minute game as... support.  Surprised we won a game where we had a support jungler (Maokai) and me on Nunu, while they were floating 3 bruisers and 2 carries. (no ADC, however).  

Everyone got to enjoy their 6 item builds, while I had to keep a slot open for wards and just be a big useless tank.  Still, snowballs help and a bloodboiled caitlyn is a nasty, nasty sight.

Nunu, especially with the right AD carry, is a very good 6-item support. ADC's dominate the very late game, and blood boil + ice blast is a huge shift in damage. That's better than Taric and Soraka add to a late game comp.

edit: Heck, I'd say with a ASPD friendly carry, it's better than just about everybody, except maybe skilled Blitzes and Ali?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Goumindong on November 13, 2012, 09:44:54 PM
Nunu's weakness is that is peel is relatively weak, which makes it hard to protect his carry from non-attack speed scaling champions, unlike taric and blitz. Nunu's bonus is that bloodboil is essentially a free Phantom Dancer, which changes the optimal buy order from BF-Item, PD, LW, GA to BF-Item, LW, GA, PD.


Nunu also effectively counters many aggressive bot lanes (blitz and alistar especially)

Either way, this makes your ADC get to the lategame very fast and serves as a backstop to the strength of your ADC (kinda like how Roka is a backstop in lane, Nunu is a backstop of making it to the lategame). It also means that there is no ADC which Nunu does not go well with.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Vaiti on November 14, 2012, 04:49:58 AM
Is it just me or has the honor system really improved the overall community of the game? I mean there are still random asshats. But the verbal abuse and general teams filled with nothing but people calling each other faggots and feeders and being horrible seem to be less often the case for me.

I likes it. Observed the other day someone on the enemy team All Talking "such and such is a feeder" and people on my own team and the other ended up reporting him at the end of the match. GG, HF seems more common. Mistakes get forgiven. People refusing to surrender unwinnable games is less of an occurrence. I think I just might be on a honeymoon period since it has been literally a year since I really sat down and played. But at least on Nordic West people seem to have calmed down.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on November 14, 2012, 11:57:23 AM
Small sample size, I'd guess.  I had a lot of pleasant games when I first got back into things.  Took a week or two for it to revert back to everyone being a bunch of insufferable cunts.

On the positive side of their community management, I guess they just permabanned (including tracking for new accounts) some of their worst offenders.  Banned their primary and determined alt accounts.  Apparently this isn't very difficult for them to figure out.

Took a long break after a string of really rotten games.  Unsure if I want to play anymore.  Takes a lot of games to get decent again and in those games you inevitably come across some really rotten streaks. Like 3 games in a row where no one wants to jungle or ADC and while it could work, it doesn't (and everyone is a giant dick about it). Have fun when I play and it's pleasant, but a few rotten games, and I've spent my entire leisure time feeling like dogshit.

Season 3 is tempting.  I still like watching streams and tournaments. Just playing is hard to do.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on November 14, 2012, 01:00:49 PM
I've been on an incredibly good winning streak lately. I've won like 12 of the last 16 or more games (going back to last season) and most of them ranked. Raised my elo over 100 points in that time period too. Probably a lot of it is sticking to a set group of characters, one or two for each role. I've been doing major damage with Diana mid (she can just snowball and facemelt SO NICE), had mostly good luck with Mundo jungle, good Graves bot, good Soraka support and I've tried Gangplank top again but I think my build is just off. Trying to build crits with him early, but not having attack speed items is really hurting.

Just had a terrible lunch time ranked game with Mundo though. It was Darius top, Mundo jungle, Kayle mid, Sivir and Leona bot against a Yorick top, Rammus Jungle, Katarina mid, Ezreal and Taric bot. I wanted to start Mundo on red since I usually start blue and am slow to gank. Of course, the other team does a FULL ON invasion of red, manages first blood on Sivir and drives me out of the jungle. So we lose red, I don't start with a buff and I'm a level down before I even know it. Their Kat proceeds to rape Kayle mid, bot gets pushed a lot and top who never moved when we got invaded bitches at me for not ganking. Meanwhile, I'm helping mid and bot not get overrun though not very well I must admit. I finally get to try to help top and Darius disappears. Every single time I come back top to set up a gank or just help out, the shithead LEAVES. Then continues to bitch at me and say I should be reported. I'm like "What for? Sucking?" Like I didn't know I was having a bad game. But at least I was helping. He never warded top bush, got one kill and got generally overrun by Yorick. One time I go up to to try to stop Yorick attacking the tower and before I know it 4 of the 5 pop out of the top tri bush and ambush me, take the turret then proceed to make it to the OTHER top turret and demolish it before my team even remotely recognizes it. We stop them taking the top nexus tower but thankfully surrendered.

Those are the games I hate - where I realize I'm not doing well, but the people yelling at me are doing as bad if not worse AND aren't helping one bit.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: MediumHigh on November 14, 2012, 04:11:08 PM
Lost 3 rank games and one normal game. Fuck this game.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Goumindong on November 14, 2012, 07:59:54 PM
Just finished preseason rankings. Went 7 and 3 and ended up at 1487 wooo!

Taric Support, Nunu Jungle. Very strong

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Gangplank top again but I think my build is just off. Trying to build crits with him early, but not having attack speed items is really hurting.
Critplank is strong, but you need crit runes to make it really valuable. It also helps to know how to game the crit system. Otherwise he is kinda weak.

For hilarity you can try APlank and just stay in lane due to your massive sustain. But I would only do that with friends.

Aside:

http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/1010407

Nunu Jungle very strong ^^



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on November 14, 2012, 08:21:22 PM
Wingofdeath (2500 elo streamer) starts boots 3 and goes double dorans to start with his GP.  He seems to win lane pretty hard, but it's rare to see Wings actually lose his lane. Rushes triforce then either goes defensive or builds glass cannon. 

I tend to get a ruby crystal and vamp on my first back and then rush a triforce, usually starting with the phage.  I do pretty well with GP.  Max Q first and then W on a hard lane or E if it's easy.  Best thing about GP is he's amazing for 1v2.  Q for cash and pick up a double kill when they dive you like a dumbass.   It's pretty hilarious to go trifforce, bt, and then IE.  That's a ton of cash, but you'll make people cry when you Q them.

Problem I have with GP is that I don't do super great against certain matchups.  But that's just me playing horribly against hyper aggressive tops or those with great wave clear.  Another problem is that everyone acts like they'll get your ult the second it's off cooldown.  Bot and mid start going balls deep every time.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Vaiti on November 15, 2012, 02:04:45 AM
Oh lord. Just played one of the worst games of my LoL experience and it was mostly my fault.

I just recently got a new machine. Just installed LoL on it. Jumped into a game. everything is broken. Our team is effectively down and man and it's al my fault.
I should have started a single player game to do settings, but frankly the thought of things being so fucked up didn't occur to me. It really should have.

Here was the issue. I'm on a bootcamped Retina MacBook Pro running Windows 8. The two of those together makes A LOT of games pissed off and behave badly.

Basically Windows 8 doesn't really know how to handle the Retina resolution 100% of the time, it tries to automatically scale it, you can disable that by rightclick properties and then compatibility mode plus untick a box to disable DPI scaling. Then things work.

But then there is the game side of thing, where a lot of games themselves have no idea what to do with the super high resolution. So what happens? Your mouse gets trapped in a box of lower resolution while the game displays at the full resolution. So in my case, my mouse is trapped to the upper 1/4th section of the screen. Oh dear.

So I'm scrambling to fix this, highly annoyed at myself and feeling sorry for my teammates. I'm applogizing and taking blame. It is my fault. They are annoyed of course, as they should be, but being friendly in expressing that annoyance.

All except one of course. His name? ANR DarkPro :why_so_serious:

Not much story to this, just found it semi-amusing and fitting. Names like that are basically advertising that the person is a huge dick wannabe MGL douche bag that has, HAS to let everyone else know how bad they are to feel better about themselves. It's amazing really. I'm sure there have been studies done on the naming convention those with that mindset use. If not, I'm pretty sure I could get soe funding to do a study.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on November 15, 2012, 11:29:25 AM
Wingofdeath (2500 elo streamer) starts boots 3 and goes double dorans to start with his GP.  He seems to win lane pretty hard, but it's rare to see Wings actually lose his lane. Rushes triforce then either goes defensive or builds glass cannon. 

I'd been trying a different build and I don't like it at all. Started with either boots or brawler's gloves to build into avarice blade for the crits and extra gold. Then merc treads and either sheen or brutalizer before building a ghostblade, IE and maybe phage/sheen/triforce.

Yeah, that doesn't work. Or at least it didn't work for me. Someone else might make it work. It'd been so long since I played GP that I'd forgotten the build I used to run which I did good with. I think it rushed Triforce instead of Ghostblade.

I've been doing a lot of Mundo jungle where I just build him tanky as fuck. Merc treads, spirit visage then warmog's and I think I started building an abyssal scepter but never get it finished because the game is over by then. I'm a slow jungler, but once Mundo gets going with that build, he's just almost impossible to kill. Over 4k HP, can tank turrets with enemies around him no problem.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on November 15, 2012, 11:41:34 AM
Wingofdeath (2500 elo streamer) starts boots 3 and goes double dorans to start with his GP.  He seems to win lane pretty hard, but it's rare to see Wings actually lose his lane. Rushes triforce then either goes defensive or builds glass cannon. 

I'd been trying a different build and I don't like it at all. Started with either boots or brawler's gloves to build into avarice blade for the crits and extra gold. Then merc treads and either sheen or brutalizer before building a ghostblade, IE and maybe phage/sheen/triforce.

Yeah, that doesn't work. Or at least it didn't work for me. Someone else might make it work. It'd been so long since I played GP that I'd forgotten the build I used to run which I did good with. I think it rushed Triforce instead of Ghostblade.

I've been doing a lot of Mundo jungle where I just build him tanky as fuck. Merc treads, spirit visage then warmog's and I think I started building an abyssal scepter but never get it finished because the game is over by then. I'm a slow jungler, but once Mundo gets going with that build, he's just almost impossible to kill. Over 4k HP, can tank turrets with enemies around him no problem.

Yah, that won't work.  I don't think I've ever really built ghostblade except when I've been ridiculously fed and/or split pushing.  Seems that if you don't start boots 3 nowadays, you're just asking to get pooped on by the jungler or an aggressive top.  You don't need to rush boots ahead of other things due to oranges and his e.  Well, unless you're in a matchup where Ninja tabi might be a huge help.   

Brutalizer is a nice item and the cdr, arp, and ad are all great on him, but I just don't like delaying the triforce too much.   Way back when I first started playing GP, I would rush IE.  That was funny stuff. 

I'm so, so bad with Mundo.  I can see how he'd fit with your balls deep philosophy of play.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on November 15, 2012, 11:48:10 AM
Not much story to this, just found it semi-amusing and fitting. Names like that are basically advertising that the person is a huge dick wannabe MGL douche bag that has, HAS to let everyone else know how bad they are to feel better about themselves. It's amazing really. I'm sure there have been studies done on the naming convention those with that mindset use. If not, I'm pretty sure I could get soe funding to do a study.

I had one of those games last night. It wasn't my machine so much as I just sucked major dick in the game. I mean it was a terrible game.

It started in team selection. This dickwad screams out in all caps that HE IS PLAYING MID NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS only with more broken English and dickbaggery. Now, no one had called mid, no one had even made the slightest indication of disagreeing with him. So I start with "Well that was civil." And someone else tells him to can the caps.

We set up with him as Malazhar mid, Shen top, Warwick jungle, Miss Fortune and me bot as Nunu (I was last pick). We were up against a Kayle/Ashe bot but I don't remember much about the other team. I fat fingered my way into getting MF killed early, then I got killed by being caught out too far. Since I'm trying to be low/zero CS support, I have no money and I'm warding as much as I can (bot bush and dragon). I am SO underleveled and the Mal mid who had bitched earlier just starts laying into me. I tell him to fuck off and inform him that I'm support, I'm buying wards so don't have the items I need and yell at him because he never once drops a ward mid - might have helped since we got ganked bot. Our Warwick comes bot and gets killed trying to turret dive a gank against a Kayle/Ashe combo. We lose bot and MF just fucks off somewhere - I think she actually just jungled most of the time to farm. Meanwhile, I'm trying to farm bot to catch up, still warding when I can but have no fucking gold. With no ADC to help, I get killed a few more times which gets the Shen to start yelling. They all group up, 3 levels above me while I'm trying to level and the Shen yells at me to ward. So I'm like "Fuck it, I got no chance at a decent build" and load up on wards, dropping 5 of them all through the opponent's jungle. A team fight ensues, and soon after those wards disappear, I'm yelled at to ward again. I'm like CAPS LOCK at this point I'm so annoyed, telling them I just warded the entire jungle. I don't even think I'd been back to base yet.

Finally we all group up top lane me included and start hammering them. We push through all the top turrets (they'd already killed mid while I was trying to level), then ACED, turrets down, GG we win. The fuck?

I even got an "Honorable Opponent" and though I was 0/8 I still had 8 assists.

I really hope I'm not as much of a dickbag to players having a bad game as these guys.

I've still come out 4-2 since the new season started. I must be getting much better teams.

I'm so, so bad with Mundo.  I can see how he'd fit with your balls deep philosophy of play.

I've actually gotten a LOT better about that, TBH. I'm still more aggressive than your average bear, but I'm learning not to give away so many stupid deaths early game. And if I get rolling with some characters (Diana in particular), I can be a terror.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Goumindong on November 15, 2012, 03:41:01 PM
If I am jungling and notice that someone didn't start boots (besides the support) I will make it my mission to poop on them. Its that simple


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on November 19, 2012, 02:57:51 PM
Motherfucking assgoblins.

I played a game at lunch today doing blind pick (which I might as well call "New Champion Practice Mode" for how I use it). I just bought Nidalee with IP and wanted to try her out support bot. Even though we had a Caitlyn and a Teemo, apparently they didn't want to ADC bot so I got laned up with a Zed. Teemo goes top with Blitzcrank and Caitlyn takes mid. It's blind, so I just shrug at the idiotic lane combos and since neither side had a jungler it didn't matter much. We faced off against a Nunu/Xin combo bot so apparently no one wanted the meta.

As we're going along, I get a few CS either by accident or taking it when Zed has his first death. He yells at me about the CS and I just kind of shrug it off. I'm not taking that much damn farm. Then he pushes towards the turret and takes advantage of some low health on Xin and I get the kill instead of him. He starts bitching but again, I ignore it. Yes I want him to get the kills early but he got an assist and dead is dead, IMO. Then their Draven wanders from mid to bot and gets caught out like an idiot. I switch to cougar mode and hammer the shit out of him, getting the kill. Keep in mind, this is like level 8 and I am 2/1/1 at the time. He yells at me about ksing and I say "dead is dead. Sorry." So rather than be a typical douche and just harangue me all game, he says "BYE!" and goes jungling, leaving me to lane solo against Nunu/Xin. And he spends most of the rest of the game soloing until right up near the very end, not bothering to help the team much at all in team fights. Meanwhile, Blitzcrank teleports to bot lane and helps me out and we eventually just start rolling. Nidalee can be a real goddamn badass facemelter. We win, I end the game 7/5/13, Zed ends it 7/2/3. What a douche.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on November 19, 2012, 03:24:40 PM
I played my first normal draft in about 6 months and it was just as bad I remembered.

Akali mid goes 0-4 in like 10 minutes. Shyv is doing shitty as well.  Meanwhile, Olaf top is doing fine and I'm (Soraka) stuck babysitting the whiniest Vayne ever.  After every death you can see her stand completely still and type out some massive diatribe.  After diving headfirst into Graves and losing a 1v1 she does the typical "I'm done", yet continues to play.  

We actually could have won the game (went 47), but Vayne had two very long DCs.  Graves got super fed off teamfights; so all the armor in the world couldn't deal with that shit.  Plus, they had a very hard initiating team so, if they wanted to, blowing up Vayne wasn't hard.  Our Akali kept initiating like a dumbass without a GA or Zhonyas, turning almost every fight into a 4v5.  

Still at the end, Vayne: "Team is trash, bg."  Fucking fucks. Ohh yah, after she died once, "So, why'd you pick Soraka?".  "Can you try not to be such a jerk and just play?"  "Just a question" "No it wasn't. Kill those minions, OK?"


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: MrHat on November 19, 2012, 03:32:55 PM
Nidalee can be a real goddamn badass facemelter. We win, I end the game 7/5/13, Zed ends it 7/2/3. What a douche.

The sound when her spear hits is so satisfying.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on November 19, 2012, 03:41:58 PM
Fuck those spears, I can't dodge those things worth shit.  I juke INTO them half of the time.

I stand behind a minion and somehow that shit loony toons around it and into my face.  And thanks to the art rework, she'll be around even more.  :tantrum:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on November 19, 2012, 03:43:39 PM
After having played her exactly twice (once in Dominion, once here), I'm amazed she's not around a lot more. She's so versatile.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: ezrast on November 19, 2012, 06:33:59 PM
My face is a fucking magnet for that shit. I don't know what my problem is. I dodge Blitzcrank grabs just fine but I think I killed a cougar in a past life or something because I'm convinced those spears have it out for me.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on November 19, 2012, 06:40:15 PM
I just don't get how people get upset over kills or cs or well, anything in blind pick.  you know what you're signing up for, go with it.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on November 22, 2012, 12:08:13 PM
I installed this game again because some friends wanted me to play with them, and holy fucking hell it only took 3 games to remind me why I quit in the first place.  People have no game sense it all, it is mind boggling.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Bzalthek on November 22, 2012, 12:36:24 PM
When people e-rage I just tell them how adorable they are and squee over their antics.  It's almost like they're real people.  This generally confuses them to silence.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on November 22, 2012, 01:17:15 PM
I installed this game again because some friends wanted me to play with them, and holy fucking hell it only took 3 games to remind me why I quit in the first place.  People have no game sense it all, it is mind boggling.

Some of us are old.  We have trouble focusing on more than one thing at a time. 

"Must last hit minions.  Ohh, that was good.  What should I buy?  Why are 3 people fighting like 20' away from me? FFS, I'M TRYING TO FARM HERE!"

On the subject of games where miracles happen..

Had a game a few days ago where I got absolutely abused in lane.  Side note: Riven gives me fits when I play GP.   I was 0/2 in lane and got crushed in CS.  Got forced out a lot and Riven picked up a lot of multi-kills roaming.  First few teamfights went disastrous and morale was low enough to spawn a few surrender votes.  Bot lane didn't want to give up, however.  Good thing too.  Despite the game going in a pretty bad direction for us: we didn't flame, Mordekaiser refined our priorities, and we started coordinating more.  After a good baron fight where I got a triple, we started winning.  Objectives and fights.  Two aces later, the kill score was tied and we won handily.   Ended up 7/5/17 despite only being 0/4/4 before we turned it around.   

I thanked everyone for not resorting to flaming and keeping their shit together, although Morde was convinced he just carried.   These are the type of games that make you want to play more.  Unfortunately you play a few more and you'll run into the games that make you not want to play anymore.

Another side note, there's one thing that kept me somewhat optimistic about the game: Riven can't carry the entire game on her own.  Even with a GA, you can take her out a fight relatively easy late.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Xuri on November 26, 2012, 01:28:36 AM
So... yeah.  I think I've found my new favourite champion - Ezreal... 58 kills 1 death in a bot game vs 5 bots (victory! whee) :P Most fun I've had with any champion so far. Of course, this won't hold up in games against actual people, so maybe I should just stick to the bot games where I can pretend to be good at the game.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Vaiti on November 26, 2012, 01:45:25 AM
SINGED GOES WHERE HE PLEASES

Been loving some Singed games. With the "new" masteries, killing turrets and backdooring with this guy is insta-win no matter how horrible my team is nowdays.
My typical procedure for games now days goes Game start, tab, mute everyone then store and to the lane that makes sense, which sometimes includes mid when you notice you are with a Teemo and Ez who are going top and bottom and neither are making any indication of going to mid lane.

I guess Singed isn't typically seen as a mid champ, but I never have any problem playing him there, well aside from not getting too many early creep kills until poison is at 2 or so and enough mana in the bank to toggle it enough to get those kills.
Otherwise Mid singed is all about letting your tower get pushed and flippin' kill hungry dudes into the glorious sunlight of your tower, may it bath them in truth.

Everytime I manage to kill mid under the sun I'll go top or bot, whoever is pushed more, or if both pushed, whoever has the least health and pick up another kill or assist before porting home to spend my ill-gotten gold.
Once mid-game rolls around I just spend the entire time backdooring mostly. As I wander by the disorganized free-roaming cat herd that is typically my team I might join up with it to flip some carry into their greedy paws, but other than that I just ignore them entirely and punch turrets and push lanes till we eventually win.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Bzalthek on December 01, 2012, 03:25:59 AM
So you ever watch/listen to something so funny you were crying but you had to stifle yourself because it wasn't over and anyone listening to you would hear this thing that is half strangling half giggling to death?

Yeah.

Professionally dubbed Tribunal entries (http://youtu.be/m9P4trNWxYk)

Just gonna leave that there.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Mosesandstick on December 01, 2012, 12:36:02 PM
Professionally dubbed Tribunal entries (http://youtu.be/m9P4trNWxYk)



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Vaiti on December 02, 2012, 03:45:48 AM
Just had a nice game with Singed. Best one in recent memory. Had everyone on mute till the very end when it was clear we had won.

(http://i.imgur.com/P92Xy.jpg)

I don't typically go hate and rod but they just kept chasing me so often across the entire map. Chase Singed through his poison. He is low on health, surely I can kill him! Yes... surely.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on December 10, 2012, 11:39:31 AM
Nice of them to basically ignore MR :)


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: luckton on December 18, 2012, 05:46:50 PM
So after a few countless matches, I attained enough IP to acquire Heimy, a champ that, in my quest to find a champ that fits my playstyle, I felt best suited me.

I was not disappointed (http://i.imgur.com/zOVaAl.jpg)  :drill:



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on December 18, 2012, 05:53:34 PM
Having a dinger on your team makes it semi-impossible to win.  Unless you get that rare once-in-a-lifetime dinger that penta-kills the enemy during a baron attempt.   

Played some Ryze again, first time since patch.  Yah, still a really hard champ.  Upgraded Manamune on him is ridiculous.   Still, getting fed as Ryze is a double edged sword.  You tend to try really retarded shit and do your best to throw the game.  1v5 under tower? LET'S DO IT.

Only got to play since a nice Maokai (who ensured us that Mao mid is OP) decided to jungle since I told everyone I didn't want to jungle at the very start, but they still left the jungle spot open when it was my turn to pick.  This is why I like normal draft.  In ranked, I would have gotten told to dodge, uninstall, and go fuck myself.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Bzalthek on December 18, 2012, 06:29:43 PM
So after a few countless matches, I attained enough IP to acquire Heimy, a champ that, in my quest to find a champ that fits my playstyle, I felt best suited me.

I was not disappointed (http://i.imgur.com/zOVaAl.jpg)  :drill:



Heimerdinger is awesome.  2nd Champ I bought cause he's just fucking fun.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ashamanchill on December 18, 2012, 09:30:34 PM
Helmet is one of the champs that NEEDS a rework. Rasix is right, you simply can't win with one.

My new main is Hecarim. Top, or jungle. Early game he gets really mana starved, but late game he is a Titan. After building two or three tank items the new black cleaver is really unfair on him.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Bzalthek on December 19, 2012, 04:19:23 AM
Meh, There's a lot more commonly chosen champions with a lower win rate. 


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Goumindong on December 19, 2012, 04:32:02 AM
Heimerdinger can be really strong. His problem is that he is countered by non-champion specific AoE. Which a lot of champions have these days. Against champions that don't destroy his turrets simply by being at the fight and/or against hard push comps he can be really impressively strong.

I think he is going to get a resurgence as a support in the coming days. This is because the increased gold from Season 3, the new support items which give AP and defenses, and his godly poke/skirmish will be in favor a lot more.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on December 20, 2012, 01:25:15 PM
WTF is it with ranked and Teemo? Anytime I pick him, there is at least one or two if not more COMPLETE FUCKING DOUCHEBAGS that will scream and holler at me (ranked solo queue). Most of the time I'll call a lane and then they'll push me out of the lane with something like "NO YOU ARE SUPPORT NOW!!!!" Today, after 2 fucking queue dodges, I get in with first pick, and immediately say, "I'm picking Teemo top." WAAAARRAGHGHGHLGLBJBBBKJLKJLBJL. 2nd pick takes Lee Sin with Smite, third pick even after we said 'DON'T TAKE A TOP!' takes Jax. Then the Jax and Lee Sin hem and haw about who is going to jungle and NEITHER takes smite. Then 4th pick, who has continually tried to tell me that just because I'm first pick I don't get to pick what I want takes Cait while 5th takes Ezreal. Lee Sin then decides he will take mid.

I'm tired of this shit. So when we get in, I go mid with Lee Sin. Jax stays top, not listening to anything I say about jungling. We push the mid lane until I hit about level 5, then I switch to top because Jax has gotten killed and fucked off to parts unknown. I get hammered a bit by a Vlad who was already 2 levels above me (because I wasn't soloing a fucking lane like I should). From that moment on, utter fucking chaos ensues, laning is kind of an afterthought...

And it doesn't fucking matter because the other team is ABSOLUTELY HORRID. The Vlad was the only decent one, their Soraka is an idiot who challenges me, the AP Teemo, one on one (and dies horribly twice). Their Karthus gets melted by me a few times. The kill totals were very close until the end, but there was just no contest. Even when they worked together, they couldn't stop us. Win, +ELO, +IP.

I swear most of the LOL community should be stricken with flaming ass cancer.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on December 20, 2012, 01:28:33 PM
I've observed a ranked game of yours.  Your elo is something special.  I once saw a Vlad on the opposite team that had 11 kills and only 55 CS at the 30 minute mark. You had some Yi that had sub 100 CS but like 20 kills.  The reaction times for everything was just so poor, but the aggression was balls-to-the-wall 100% of the time.  

Just strange to watch.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on December 20, 2012, 02:48:55 PM
It's fucking painful at times because it's an absolute crapshoot as to what type of player you'll get on your team or against you. I am on my BEST days a mediocre player. I'm a lot better than I used to be but I am not even close to being 1400 elo quality. But I ain't a 700 elo quality either even though that's where my elo sits. I would reckon that at least 1 and no more than 3 or 4 people on both teams is better than me on any given game of ranked solo queue. How well my team does (and consequently how well I do) is totally dependent on which side those 1-4 players are. The other 5 players? At least 1-2 of them will be a troll, and the rest will just be fucking TERRIBLE. Like "how in the fuck did you ever stand losing this bad through 30 levels?" terrible. I currently sit at 22-28 for Season 3. I started the season like 5-2 or something like that, a really fantastic winning streak. Then I started getting total shit teams and my streak went to losing, no matter how well I did in the game. In fact, I rarely have what I consider a TERRIBLE game anymore.

The other night I picked a Teemo and went mid. One doofus in the chat didn't get the champ he wanted and I think he either randomed Shyv or picked it himself. Then he proceeded to say he didn't know how to play and could someone switch. The person who was going top offered to switch, even took Smite on his Vlad because he expected to switch champs. We get into game and the switch didn't happen, both the Shyv and Vlad had fucking smite and the Shyv kept saying in all caps that they had not chosen the right runes for Shyv.

 :facepalm:

But it got fucking worse. We parked outside red and were immediately invaded. We got out of the invasion without losing anyone BUT a bunch of the opposition went mid, then spread out. The enemy jungler Lee Sin started creeping up to mid tower on the top side and Vlad ran right into him, died. I move that way a little and Lee Sin disappears. Meanwhile, the Fiddlesticks who is mid against me is pushing the lane HARD and I can't do shit about it. Along comes Shyv, follows the exact same path Vlad did and DIES to the Lee Sin. Then proceeds to bitch at me because I guess I didn't abandon my lane to die with him? In all caps of course. And continues yelling at me in all caps while not ganking mid (where I got my shit pushed in hard because well, no ganks and I was already behind in CS because of the invasion and attempting to leash red for him). And every time I came close to getting a kill on a champ, he appears from fucking nowhere and gets the last hit. We got fucking steamrolled, and it literally was because of this one loudmouth, all caps fucking douche.


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Post by: Bzalthek on December 20, 2012, 03:30:07 PM
I don't want to log in.  If I log in Vi's song will end.


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Post by: MrHat on December 20, 2012, 03:32:31 PM
Haem - maybe mute everyone in the game? It might improve your experience.  I'd still love to get a game, but I think our hours are different for it.

And ya, that Vi song is awesome, wonder why they don't let the different log in musics cycle in game.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on December 20, 2012, 03:42:54 PM
Vi seems a pretty potent champ. Of course, the first game I got into last night, someone got bitched at in chat for wanting to pick Vi. Then the opposing team picked her and we lost badly.


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Post by: ezrast on December 20, 2012, 10:53:41 PM
Heh. I bought her, didn't get to play her for two matches, and then had someone afk on the third because they were pissy that I picked her first. But yeah - not one but two good gap closers, some burst, some AoE damage, some %MaxHP damage that scales with AD (!), and okay base stats - I predict nerfs. Going to enjoy her until then though.


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Post by: Rasix on December 20, 2012, 11:33:20 PM
First game Dyrus played with her, he got 2 quadras, while generally playing like an idiot.  His quote was something to the effect of, "hey, it's melee Vayne".   She could gap close and blow up Kassadin and Ezreal with little problem.  Even with their escapes, they had no chance.

Her scaling seems a bit crazy for how much innate damage she does.  Plus, free shield. She looks fun as hell to play.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Goumindong on December 21, 2012, 11:13:43 AM
I'm a lot better than I used to be but I am not even close to being 1400 elo quality. But I ain't a 700 elo quality either even though that's where my elo sits.

If you can't carry at 700 ELO then you're 700 ELO quality. I mean, i am not that great, 1350 in season 2. But if my ELO ever dropped below 1150 i could hypercarry from any position except support

At 700 ELO people are so bad that it does not matter what the other team is doing, just go to lane, farm for 20 minutes then win because you have 150 CS. 15 CS to a kill (or so, might be a bit more now with the decreased non-cannon gold). Just go to lane and think about that, every 15 CS you beat the enemy by is a full kill.


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Post by: Malakili on December 21, 2012, 11:55:45 AM
This is one of the reasons that I, as someone who plays support pretty often, has been hesitant to get back into ranked games this time around.   Having a group fo guys to play with/talk about the game with this time through has helped me stay with the game through some very frustrating games though. 


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on December 21, 2012, 12:17:40 PM
I'm a lot better than I used to be but I am not even close to being 1400 elo quality. But I ain't a 700 elo quality either even though that's where my elo sits.

If you can't carry at 700 ELO then you're 700 ELO quality. I mean, i am not that great, 1350 in season 2. But if my ELO ever dropped below 1150 i could hypercarry from any position except support

I disagree with what you said.

It's a team game. You can talk about carries all you want but sometimes you actually need help in lane. You need a gank to even out getting zoned, or worse, you get a shit gank that gets you both killed and is all your lane opponent needs to carry.

Last night I was jungling Mundo. Our Ashe was an uncommunicative retard who as far as I could tell played by slamming her forehead down onto the keyboard at random intervals. She sat AFK in the spawn while Lulu tried to hold bottom lane against a Draven/Janna pair. By the time Ashe moved to bot lane, I'd already had to go help Lulu, and Draven had level 3. Ashe walks directly into Draven and fucking dies. Then she does it again, only this time she walked AROUND to attack him from the river and died. My first kill was a successful gank top, my first death was in bot lane while Ashe was fucking about in the spawn and getting 3v1ed. Despite Ashe being constantly behind, I was getting kills. I even got a triple kill at one point. Then I went on a streak of deaths because our AD carry was underleveled and decided that attacking the Darius jungler was a better plan than a FED AS FUCK Draven or an Akali. We had Shen, Lulu, Mundo, Ashe and Evelynn mid. With Ashe providing no real effective damage, I could go into team fights and target their carry all I wanted and it did almost no good most times because our carry wasn't focusing on theirs, she was hitting their tank. Meanwhile the other team was focusing her or Eve.

Team game. Carries are really important, and one other player can make a huge difference in your team winning or losing. That game was TOTALLY winnable, as we got some turrets down, pulled out an ACE and even got Baron once. We couldn't make up for a shitty carry. Suddenly, I lost 15 ELO. Have that happen 4 or 5 times in a row, and I've lost 60 elo and I don't even know where it went.


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Post by: Goumindong on December 21, 2012, 12:44:48 PM
I disagree with what you said.

It's a team game. You can talk about carries all you want but sometimes you actually need help in lane. You need a gank to even out getting zoned, or worse, you get a shit gank that gets you both killed and is all your lane opponent needs to carry.

Sometimes. But if you're better than the ELO you're listed at you're going to need it less than the other guy and the times which bad things happen will be fewer than when good things happen.

You are one fifth of your team and if you're better than them you will bring your team up.

Every time, every time that someone has told me "i am better than my ELO" i watch their games and find flaws which tell me "no, no you're not". If you're legitimately better than 700 you should be able to either

A: Carry out of the jungle more often than not
B: Hard carry from top, mid, ADC

A is probably harder than B at 700 ELO since no one knows how to team fight, but just like support, if you play well you're always going to do better by giving your lanes a leg up. But its not hard to do either since at worst you're going to get stuck with support one fifth of the time.

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Then I went on a streak of deaths because our AD carry was underleveled and decided that attacking the Darius jungler was a better plan than a FED AS FUCK Draven or an Akali

The ADC should be attacking whom they can get to. ADC's do not target enemies, that is not their job, if they do that they just die.

Also, jungle mundo should, ideally, not be getting kills and instead feeding those kills to his lanes(I mean, secure them, but if you can help it give it away). I can't tell you how many games i've won because a non-carry jungler got all the kills. Then, rather than having their lanes be far ahead and able to use that advantage throughout the laning phase, their lanes were only marginally ahead and could snowball the other direction by a single successful gank.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on December 21, 2012, 01:23:20 PM
Man, seriously, I'm so sick of hearing shit talk about Teemo. I had an argument in chat with this douche Shen who was like "Teemo has no utility and won't do enough damage to carry."

After we won, my stats showed that I did the most damage to champs by a wide margin, had mushrooms all over the place, had the 2nd most kills after our douchebag Fiddle who sat in spawn late-game trolling because our douchebag Diana sucked and wanted to argue with him instead of getting kills and winning her lane.

Fucking community is full of raging goddamn douchebags.


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Post by: Mosesandstick on December 21, 2012, 02:15:17 PM
Not sure how much has changed but Teemo's main glaring weakness was that he didn't bring that much to straight up team-fights. It's a bizarre thing but as Teemo you got to play off your advantages (strong laning, shrooms everywhere) and capitalise on that to win the game.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Goumindong on December 21, 2012, 06:28:11 PM
Not sure how much has changed but Teemo's main glaring weakness was that he didn't bring that much to straight up team-fights. It's a bizarre thing but as Teemo you got to play off your advantages (strong laning, shrooms everywhere) and capitalise on that to win the game.

Depends on how you build him, but generally yes, unless you're very far ahead(after which you do so much deeps it doesn't matter) teemo doesn't bring much to team fights. This is especially true if your team is unable to coordinate to use shroom fields.

Teemo's primary advantage is being able to win lane and his move quick and shrooms allowing him to split push with relative ease


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on December 21, 2012, 09:47:47 PM
Teemo doesn't bring a lot to team fights.....until hurricane. Ap teemo with hurricane in a team fight spreading that poison is a fucking nightmare.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on December 21, 2012, 09:50:41 PM
Teemo doesn't bring a lot to team fights.....until hurricane. Ap teemo with hurricane in a team fight spreading that poison is a fucking nightmare.

Yea, that stuff is nasty.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Goumindong on December 21, 2012, 10:13:22 PM
Teemo doesn't bring a lot to team fights.....until hurricane. Ap teemo with hurricane in a team fight spreading that poison is a fucking nightmare.
Even with hurricane.

If you can hit >1 person with cane then you're in range to get attacked by >1 person. If you're only getting one person hurricane is really sub-optimal. What hurricane excells at is split pushing.

Not saying its bad on him, but i would rather have Nashors + lots of AP than hurricane and lots of AP.

Edit: There are a lot of reasonable builds for teemo no, but hurricane is more for the tanky teemo than the DPS teemo and i think that with the current state of things AP/DPS teemo is a lot better.

DFG is good on him, Nashors is good on him, Gunblade should be good on him, BotRK should be good on him.


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Post by: Lakov_Sanite on December 21, 2012, 10:24:39 PM
I disagree. Hurricane, ap and an hourglass makes for a sick fucking combo. Run into teamfights, get a few shots off and pop your hourglass. When you're back you fire a couple more and sure you might die but you'll decimate their side.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on December 22, 2012, 12:07:31 AM
I continue to forget about Hurricane on my Teemo. Today I built him with sorc shoes, malady, rylai's, liandry's torment and Morellonomicon. It was enough DPS to melt someone down if they were stupid enough to try to trade off with me or force them to run the fuck away to safety. I think I even facerolled a Jax 1v1.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Goumindong on December 22, 2012, 05:43:53 AM
I disagree. Hurricane, ap and an hourglass makes for a sick fucking combo. Run into teamfights, get a few shots off and pop your hourglass. When you're back you fire a couple more and sure you might die but you'll decimate their side.

You'd die before you popped your hourglass or not get any attacks off.

For AP Teemo you need four things

AP
CDR
MP5
Attack Speed

Not sure of the order, probably AP,CDR/MP5 then Attack Speed

Hurricane is 2750 gold for 70% AS and the passive. The AS is 2330 gold worth of raw stats using daggers as a base (2200 using recurve bows)

Tooth is 2500 GP for 50% AS, 65 AP, 20% CDR, and 10 MP5. The AP and AS alone is worth 3080 gold which is really good for a legendary item after the recent changes[A BT for instance has 3200 gold worth of stats on it before stacking it]. CDR and MP5 are harder to price but they're not worthless.

Basically this means that in order for Hurricane to be the better item the passive has to be worth about 1000 gold, 10 MP5, and 20% CDR.

Tooth also builds out of better initial items and is cheaper which means you have a stronger intermediate game and can exploit completed item asymmetry easier. If you're building hurricane in addition to another AS item then its reduced in efficiency even more.

So if I start tooth then i would get hurricane last, since once you have AS and AP and CDR and MP5 you're going to want either a bit of tank or more raw AP to make your AA,q,AA combo hurt more and your shrooms more potent. If i start hurricane then I am just horrendously underpowered early.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: ezrast on December 22, 2012, 05:51:42 AM
I had this happen earlier today. Ego +1.

Doesn't stop people in other games from telling me that Nunu is "useless in Dominion", but I'll take what I can get.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Nightblade on December 22, 2012, 09:44:24 AM
I had this happen earlier today. Ego +1.

Doesn't stop people in other games from telling me that Nunu is "useless in Dominion", but I'll take what I can get.

No spell vamp? D:

My latest hobby in dominion is getting spell vamp, taking hits, eatting a minion for 20% of my health back while spamming ctrl + 4 (as nunu bot)


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: ezrast on December 22, 2012, 09:51:35 AM
Look closer!

Also stop maining my champs!  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Nightblade on December 22, 2012, 10:09:57 AM
Look closer!

Also stop maining my champs!  :why_so_serious:

Blrglp


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Goumindong on December 22, 2012, 04:26:20 PM
No spell vamp? D:

My latest hobby in dominion is getting spell vamp, taking hits, eatting a minion for 20% of my health back while spamming ctrl + 4 (as nunu bot)


Nunu's heal scales 1 to 1 on AP so he doesn't really have a reason to get spell vamp given its cost. That being said given the new costs on items it looks like WoTA is relatively cheap now rather than relatively expensive


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Post by: Rasix on December 23, 2012, 12:43:20 AM
Playing Kayle as an ADC is pretty fun (I thought I was going top until last pick locked in Akali).  Couple clutch ults on our ridiculously good Fizz.   Always fun though when your E trolls you and has you meleeing in a team fight.  :awesome_for_real:

Didn't do too bad either.  I hadn't even played ADC this season yet.  Or Kayle. 

Somewhat redeems my shittastic GP game. I'm not sure how he's going to pan out this season.  As a jungler maybe?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Goumindong on December 23, 2012, 04:31:44 AM
GP is not a good jungler, he can't clear fast enough and his ganks aren't very strong.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on December 23, 2012, 01:30:12 PM
I think GP is going to get a boost eventually. He just doesn't seem all that good these days.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ashamanchill on December 23, 2012, 11:33:29 PM
I was actually shocked at how bad a jungler Warwick is with the new changes. Good god riot seems to have implemented the exact opposite of what they intended this patch. AOE junglers are now almost required for any sort of speed, and chumps like Trundle and Warwick are left in the dust. Again.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on December 23, 2012, 11:37:25 PM
I tried Rengar and Skarner a whole bunch after the changes. Neither worked very well. Before season 3, Skarner was kicking major ass.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on December 24, 2012, 10:58:56 AM
I've always liked nautilus jungle, cc for days.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Bzalthek on December 24, 2012, 11:17:35 AM
Saw Scarra tear shit up with a Jarvan jungle.  Was insane.


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Post by: Kail on December 25, 2012, 01:52:14 PM
So who all are the top junglers nowadays?  I keep getting stuck with it, somehow, but I'm not really experienced at it and don't really know who to pick.  I generally just go Amumu, I hear Lee Sin is supposed to be good, but otherwise, I don't know who's still good or not.  Udyr?  Shaco?  Olaf?  I keep seeing Nocturne trying to jungle and failing hard...  I dunno.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on December 25, 2012, 03:24:05 PM
Mumu is always solid, I have see khaz do well also.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Bzalthek on December 25, 2012, 03:33:27 PM
Has there been a tournament since S3 began?  If people haven't seen it in a tournament, NA players squeal like total bitches.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on December 25, 2012, 07:22:40 PM
NA players squeal like total bitches.

Just play some ranked in NA, you'll see this aplenty.

Also, I think my AP Teemo experiment is done. He's squishy, but if he has a decent fucking support bot or decent gankers top or mid, he can rape people late game or be a great split pusher. But he has such a bad rep amongst people that picking him automatically means at least 1 if not 3 of your teammates will be utter SHITCOCKS in chat before the game about how terrible a champ he is. If you rape people, they say NOTHING. If you die more than once, forget about it, you are the worst player ever and you should uninstall the game. The amount of "I would stab you in the face with my hate" feelings the community generates from me when I hear this shit is just not fucking healthy.

The last unsuccessful game I played with him was full of shit sipping trolls. I first pick Teemo top, TELL THEM I'm going Teemo top. Shouldn't be any discussion. The next two players pick fucking JAX and fucking GAREN. Garen won't fucking answer questions about whether he's going top or suppport. 4th pick is a Pantheon. Neither Jax or Panth can decide which of them will jungle. Garen won't answer whether he will support or not. Finally, the last pick was I think an Akali who went mid. Jax and Panth make the decision that Jax should bot with me.

Support. Jax.

Needless to say the Twitch/Nunu combo DESTROYED US bot. But it was all my fault because I chose Teemo. Never mind that Jax offers nothing to Teemo as an ADC, and needs the farm just as bad as Teemo if not worse. And nobody else, including the mouthy Panth jungler did much better. It was a fucking disaster.


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Post by: Der Helm on December 26, 2012, 11:44:54 PM
I'd really like to know wtf happened during champ selection and if this was a premade.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Kail on December 27, 2012, 01:19:33 AM
I'd really like to know wtf happened during champ selection and if this was a premade.

Hah, wow.  Yeah, from their history it looks like they were rolling as a premade (except for that Hecarim, maybe) but their other games aren't troll comps.  Maybe they were just trying to get the 5-man premade holiday icon, or something, and decided to invite Hec and throw the game?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Der Helm on December 27, 2012, 01:43:59 AM
I'd really like to know wtf happened during champ selection and if this was a premade.

Hah, wow.  Yeah, from their history it looks like they were rolling as a premade (except for that Hecarim, maybe) but their other games aren't troll comps.  Maybe they were just trying to get the 5-man premade holiday icon, or something, and decided to invite Hec and throw the game?
Yeah. Probably.


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Post by: Setanta on December 27, 2012, 03:10:42 AM
After playing against bots for far too long* I've started PvPing again. Smashed as Sona in my first game then went with Soraka and was able to monster bot (Vi/Orianna) with Lee Sin and then hold them off/bait them onto the turret when we lost our Wukong. They surrendered when we dropped our third turret - it's nice to be on a winning side.

Pales into insignificance compared to the other posts here, but I had fun :)









* I'd come home, jump into game for 30 min for over 12 months and get my daily points then log - plus the trash-takling was over the top in PvP.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Der Helm on December 27, 2012, 11:29:22 PM
22 minute login queue and it's going UP not down ?  Wtf ? :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on December 28, 2012, 11:27:19 AM
About raising ELO, I got to 1500 by mastering jungle Udyr. I would usually run support otherwise, or a rare top. Most people play the crap out of solo top, ADC, or mid...so being good at jungle or support can really help your team...and you don't get stuck with horrible ones of either.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Kail on December 28, 2012, 04:18:29 PM
About raising ELO, I got to 1500 by mastering jungle Udyr. I would usually run support otherwise, or a rare top. Most people play the crap out of solo top, ADC, or mid...so being good at jungle or support can really help your team...and you don't get stuck with horrible ones of either.

Any tips for jungling?  I completely suck at it.  I can generally manage to not die to jungle creeps ( :oh_i_see: ) but whenever I leave the woods, I feel useless.  When to gank, how to gank, these things are a mystery to me.  Generally I run in and stun the guy and he flashes away, or sees me coming from wards and backs off before I can get in.  I guess burning flash is considered a victory to some degree, but I always feel like a third wheel until we start roaming.

I grabbed Rengar since I heard he was OP in the jungle a while back, but I guess he's been nerfed repeatedly since then, and now I can barely clear two or three camps without having to b.  Outside of the jungle, he seems even worse.  His Q is ok, but nothing groundbreaking, his W is useless except for the 10% heal when it's empowered which gives him decent sustain but not much for teamfights, and his E is an almost unnoticeably weak slow with an extremely short range unless it's empowered, in which case it's just a decent snare.  His ult baffles me, I can kind of see where it would be useful, but since it's his only gap closer and his only escape tool and it's on a long ass cooldown I'm always waffling about when to use it.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on December 28, 2012, 05:58:25 PM
I bought Rengar and just wasn't impressed. I had a bunch of middling games and a bunch of bad games in blind pick and just wasn't feeling it. I think he has been nerfed into oblivion.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on December 28, 2012, 06:03:02 PM
I think naut is a terribly underrated jungler.  I like any jungler with good cc more than heavy dps junglers.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on December 28, 2012, 08:07:50 PM
His initial clear scares the poop out of me.

I've manged not to jungle and only played ADC with a non-ADC this season.  I'm a happy man.  Now I just need to find a good top laner that isn't shit on in this current meta.  I'm guessing Queen Lane-bully Kayle might work, and I really want to get more Vi games in, feed or not.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on December 28, 2012, 09:37:42 PM
New jungle item +5pots and go W>E>W>Q>E>R for naut, his clear is surprisingly fast and easy.  Built New jungle tank item with tenacity and grab ninja tabi boots for all the early game tankiness you need, then build accordingly to their comp.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on December 28, 2012, 10:01:39 PM
Now I just need to find a good top laner that isn't shit on in this current meta.  I'm guessing Queen Lane-bully Kayle might work, and I really want to get more Vi games in, feed or not.

I've been having real good runs with Jax top laning these days. If he gets even the slightest bit of feed/CS advantage, he rolls hard late. Olaf is decent but as always with Olaf, he's not unstoppable.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: luckton on December 29, 2012, 07:51:45 PM
Treated myself for Christmas by expanding my champ collection with the addition of Yorick.  I haven't had much success with melee/bruiser champs thus far, and my first few outtings with Yorick weren't very...productive, either.

Nevertheless I've pressed on with trying to get my head wrapped around him, and I think I'm getting the hang of it.  I've worked out an item build that capitalizes on CR, armor/MR, and overall tankiness while still sticking a Manamune in for mana issues.  The match I just wrapped up still had me making some newb moves, but once I had manamune, frozen heart, frost hammer, and a spirit visage equipped, I was nigh unstoppable.  Managed to plow into the thick of the final teamfight in the match, pull a triple kill + 1 assist and nailed the match.

Just need to work on my last hitting and judging the enemy skills better, but I'm getting there.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on December 29, 2012, 08:29:06 PM
Inclusion of flask and increase in base movement speed hurts Yorick a bit.  People can out sustain that early harass.  I haven't seen him played yet in S3 (in personal games or streams).  

I'm just not sure how he fits in the League of Cleavers at the moment.  I could probably play him support still.

I tried some support Kayle.  I did so, so bad.  I think it was just a bad game, lag, and the fact that my ADC had the reaction times of someone under heavy medication.   Eh, sometimes you just stink and lose.

edit:

Why do people have to be such massive dicks in this game?  I call mia, ping, they keep pushing, then give up a triple kill because they're expecting me to appear out of the heavens?  If I'm going to be too late anyways, might as well just put some damage on the tower.  Plus, at that point I have to guess on direction.

"You know what? Fuck you guys.  Enjoy waiting the next 10 minutes."  I'll probably eat a ban or something, but seriously, this is a normal.  No reason for these assholes to lay into me for this crap. And I don't feel like I need to put up with this kind of nonsense when I'm specifically trying to avoid it.

double edit:

Probably just should have muted them and practiced last hitting or something.  Seriously, I should have known it was going to be a rough game when they were mad I got counter picked. "I'll be ok"  "You better be"  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on December 30, 2012, 12:12:24 PM
Yorick played right in Season 2 was an absolute godly beast. It's that 'played right' part that's tricky. I tried him for about a week solid and never got the hang of him. He's a HIGH skill champ, but when he's done right he just will not fucking die. For that type of "you can't kill him but he's lighting you up" type of champ, my preference lately is for Mundo. Mundo doesn't seem to have taken much of a hit at all in Season 3. If allowed to build, he will soak up unholy amounts of damage.

As for the massive dickage, I'm constantly amazed in ranked how bad some of the players are at the simplest things like MIA's. Or warding. I mean, a bot lane that doesn't ward at all, that's supposed to help the ganks how exactly? Or the entire dickheaded team which insisted they shouldn't have to drop one single ward on their lane early game. Just one ward mid Brand who won't call MIA's or chase after the Kat who just left your lane to go rape bot? NOT ONE WARD?

90% of the population of LOL could commit suicide The Happening-style and the game would only be improved by it.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on December 30, 2012, 12:30:56 PM
Just had a horrible game where I got blamed for the loss when the support lux was saying things like "It's the job of a support to die so the adc can get kills" I wanted to point out the wrongness of this statement but to no avail.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on December 30, 2012, 11:37:15 PM
 :facepalm:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on December 31, 2012, 08:17:56 AM



Why do people have to be such massive dicks in this game?  

One of the things that sets MOBA apart from other genres is that when you play bad you don't just hurt yourself or even your team (like say in a normal team based game) you actively help the opposing team.  So, you really can be in a position where your teammates totally hose you.  Combine it with the fact that people like team games in the first place because they can deflect blame for losses, and its a recipe for exactly what we see in pretty much every game in this genre.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on December 31, 2012, 10:35:03 AM
When I play jungle it seems like every team I'm on never places wards and every team I'm against double wards every bush in the fucking game.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on December 31, 2012, 10:57:16 AM
When I play jungle it seems like every team I'm on never places wards and every team I'm against double wards every bush in the fucking game.

This. I especially love it when a gank fails and I ask the lane it happened in to ward and they come back with "It's not my job to ward."

/facepalm


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Post by: Slayerik on December 31, 2012, 11:13:25 AM
About raising ELO, I got to 1500 by mastering jungle Udyr. I would usually run support otherwise, or a rare top. Most people play the crap out of solo top, ADC, or mid...so being good at jungle or support can really help your team...and you don't get stuck with horrible ones of either.

Any tips for jungling?  I completely suck at it.  I can generally manage to not die to jungle creeps ( :oh_i_see: ) but whenever I leave the woods, I feel useless.  When to gank, how to gank, these things are a mystery to me.  Generally I run in and stun the guy and he flashes away, or sees me coming from wards and backs off before I can get in.  I guess burning flash is considered a victory to some degree, but I always feel like a third wheel until we start roaming.

I grabbed Rengar since I heard he was OP in the jungle a while back, but I guess he's been nerfed repeatedly since then, and now I can barely clear two or three camps without having to b.  Outside of the jungle, he seems even worse.  His Q is ok, but nothing groundbreaking, his W is useless except for the 10% heal when it's empowered which gives him decent sustain but not much for teamfights, and his E is an almost unnoticeably weak slow with an extremely short range unless it's empowered, in which case it's just a decent snare.  His ult baffles me, I can kind of see where it would be useful, but since it's his only gap closer and his only escape tool and it's on a long ass cooldown I'm always waffling about when to use it.

I haven't played since season 2, so I'm not sure what all has changed. In general, know the proper routes for your jungle and correct builds. When attempting ganks, don't be afraid to flash offensively. But If they insta burn their flash as you come out of the bush, don't follow them. Do a quick lap and come back around for the kill. Know the abilities of the lane you are ganking. Ganking with a Taric support on your side can make things a lot easier. Ping before coming in for gankin, I usually do a couple times as I am doing the camp before the gank. Make sure your buddy has enough mana to help. I have made plenty of failed gank attempts purely due to me not checking my own guy's status. Sometimes I'll tell people at the start of the match "Hey, I usually gank after red...just an FYI." - also if your people are pushing lanes too hard, tell them to please let the creeps push out. That way, when they inevitably blame you for not ganking enough you will have the self gratification that you at least told the idiot to stop pushing.

Be comfortable with your champ. Know the limits of your turret diving. Pick on those that lack escapes...relentlessly. Grab a ward or two, your lane mates might thank you for it. Don't be afraid to ward the enemy's buffs. If you know a guy likes warding, fuck with him and place a vision ward - kill his ward - and leave for a lap.

Some of the more advanced techniques deal with counterjungling, and knowing opposing junglers routes and when to expect their gank. Some fuckers are like clockwork, and you can really ruin their day.

Also, watch a good jungler's stream. Snoopeh was a badass that I learned some shit from.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Kail on December 31, 2012, 03:11:28 PM
Why do people have to be such massive dicks in this game?  

One of the things that sets MOBA apart from other genres is that when you play bad you don't just hurt yourself or even your team (like say in a normal team based game) you actively help the opposing team.  So, you really can be in a position where your teammates totally hose you.  Combine it with the fact that people like team games in the first place because they can deflect blame for losses, and its a recipe for exactly what we see in pretty much every game in this genre.

I think a big part of it is the snowball-y nature of the game, too.  People have a natural tendency to attribute their successes to themselves and their failures to other people, and in this game, your failures are massive failures and your successes are hilariously one sided stomps.

Like, if someone has a really good game and goes 20/0, they go "hey, I'm so much awesomer than all the noobs in this bracket" even though he only got that fed because of a few small mistakes early on that snowballed.  Then the next game, he goes 0/10, and he knows he's basically as good as he was in the last game, it's just the other people who changed, so it must be their fault that he's not doing as well as he was last game.


Also, watch a good jungler's stream. Snoopeh was a badass that I learned some shit from.

Ah, thanks, I'll check it out.  I just saw a stream yesterday where I think it was scarra who soloed Dragon at lv.7 as Shaco, which I wasn't even aware was possible.

Part of the problem is that I think there were a lot of changes to the jungle in season 3, and a lot of the info I'm using for jungling (champion spotlights, guides, wikis, etc.) are from season 2 and don't really apply anymore.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on December 31, 2012, 03:53:24 PM
If you want to catch jungler streams, there's a few that are good.  Stvicious, Chauster (mostly fucks around and duos with his GF, so, he may be useless) and Snoopeh are likely on own3d.tv while TheOddOne (explains a lot of what he's doing) and Crumbz are on twitch.tv.  Scarra is typically a midlaner, except when he plays his smurf (priscient).

Had a complete opposite game last night.  Made a few early mistakes but the team was uninterested in shitting on each other and instead helped.  "We needed your damage last fight" is a lot better than, "quit split pushing, you fucking faggot noob".  "Top needs help" is typically better than "lol our top is getting stomped".  "Would you like to switch" is a bit better than "let me mid, ffs, u suck".   Panth is kind of rough for Kayle, but we picked two champs that could mid or top, so we had a lot of flexibility.  Also helps when your Hecarim is a monster.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: luckton on December 31, 2012, 06:48:12 PM
I know I'm breaking some kind of cardinal rule, but I'm finding that running Yorick in the mid lane is working far better than trying to do the top thing.  I've gotten all kinds of flack for it because I'm not "keeping up with the Meta", but when they see me holding mid without issue and then as a tanky beast in the mid/late game, they have no words. :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on December 31, 2012, 10:11:31 PM
I can see Yorick holding mid lane. He's certainly got the sustain. The thing I'd worry about with him is late game not doing the AP damage that most people don't have enough resists against.

I've tried out Maokai jungling lately and the season 3 changes really seem to help him. With hunter's machete building into the eldar lizard thing, he's got a decent amount of sustain and damage, plus lots of CC and utility. The only problem is that my teammates really don't fucking seem to know how to work with him. When I'm ulting, SIT IN THE CIRCLE JERKOFF. Oh and hit the goddamn ADC or APC first, not the goddamn tank. Fucktards.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on December 31, 2012, 11:13:48 PM
Yorick mid with vlad top could work well.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: ezrast on January 01, 2013, 06:52:39 AM
I know I'm breaking some kind of cardinal rule, but I'm finding that running Yorick in the mid lane is working far better than trying to do the top thing.  I've gotten all kinds of flack for it because I'm not "keeping up with the Meta", but when they see me holding mid without issue and then as a tanky beast in the mid/late game, they have no words. :awesome_for_real:
Actually, they're the ones not keeping up with the meta. There are a lot of top lane champions doing well in mid lane now with the new "AD caster" itemization.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on January 01, 2013, 07:13:51 AM
I know I'm breaking some kind of cardinal rule, but I'm finding that running Yorick in the mid lane is working far better than trying to do the top thing.  I've gotten all kinds of flack for it because I'm not "keeping up with the Meta", but when they see me holding mid without issue and then as a tanky beast in the mid/late game, they have no words. :awesome_for_real:
Actually, they're the ones not keeping up with the meta. There are a lot of top lane champions doing well in mid lane now with the new "AD caster" itemization.

Yep, mid is skewing towards AD Casters right now because of season 3 itemization.  I am still more comfortable playing AP mid, but AD mids are where the meta is heading.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Bzalthek on January 01, 2013, 02:57:30 PM
That and the recent tournaments where Double AD Carry has been used to good effect.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Goumindong on January 01, 2013, 07:35:05 PM
Any tips for jungling?

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/15rkr2/najin_mokuzas_jungle_10_commandmentstranslated/

But seriously here are some more words which might make the jungle make sense.

Your job in the jungle is to control objectives while not falling behind. Part of controlling objectives will be ganking, part of controlling objectives will be being in the right place at the right time, and part of it will be warding.

Above all, remember that your lanes are more important than you are. Lanes are more important because they interact with the enemy more often. If you can give your lanes buffs without falling behind, do so. If you can give your lanes your jungle farm without falling behind, do so. If, when you gank, you can ensure that your lane gets the kill, do so.

Generally you're going to turn the tide of a fight simply by being there unless the enemy jungler is also there, so if you get kills on yourself the kill isn't actually contributing to the gank as compared to getting a kill for your ally.

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whenever I leave the woods, I feel useless.  When to gank, how to gank, these things are a mystery to me.  Generally I run in and stun the guy and he flashes away, or sees me coming from wards and backs off before I can get in

The short answer is "come back". Don't just gank a lane then go somewhere else, gank a lane, go clear a camp, and then come back.

If the enemy has one avenue warded, go for a different avenue. Lane ganks are really strong, especially if you have good move speed.

And, communicate with your team, always let them know where you're going and when you're going to be there. Ping when you're going to go in.

I am almost positive i've linked this here before, its me playing nunu jungle in season 2 in one of my more dominating games. How dominating? I went 1/2/25 and our team had 28 kills total, which means I was not involved in a whole 2 kills our team had. The kills i did not get assists on were direct results of me snowballing the lanes.

http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/1010407

The game highlights a lot of things that you should be doing in the jungle. Counter jungling (taking his big creeps so he falls behind), ganking/counter ganking, and how to lane gank. What you won't see is the communication I had with my team, which was very good.

Some things to note:

3:30 : I start my gank before doing mini's. This lets me do mini's after and then come back if the gank fails. Also note that Darius has pushed up his lane so that i have an easy avenue to get to lane. We only get the flash but this sets me up to come back at 4:40

5:20 : I don't go mid because the lane is pushed and because Gragas is very hard to gank. People tend to gank mid a bit too often imo. Especially if the enemy has a safe champion there. Their olaf got very lucky in ganking mid since Morg made mistakes(she did not flash and she her pool dropped her below binding mana). He should not have even bothered. He should not not bothered the later times he goes too.

5:55 : I could have stayed mid and CS'd but it wasn't worth it. I saw olaf leave towards top and so could easily check/take his bottom jungle. Taking his big wraith and mini-golem put me way ahead of him and i knew he could not touch me because he had to clear the small ones before looking for me. That being said, i was pretty exposed. Sona/EZ should probably have checked their jungle as soon as they had shoved draven out of lane. Though they probably thought i went to my wolves rather than his mini's.

6:30 Teemo has an easy kill on Darius so long as I am not top. Clearly he thinks I am still top. Olaf should have ganked top instead of backing for items.

7:20 We get to blue a bit late, I donate then buy. I probably could have ganked bottom before buying. Morg goes to do so, but is too obvious in how she leaves lane. Morg and I should have ganked bottom right after blue. I could have come through lane and her through wraith to tri.

8:40 I lane gank because i know they have a river ward. Darius 1v2's Olaf and Teemo top because of the kill I fed Darius and because Olaf wasn't 6 due to me counter jungling his wraiths twice. We get kinda lucky and kinda unlucky on the gank. I get stunned before i can do anything, but Sona ults zyra instead of draven and gets ruined by the Zyra/Draven deeps. We probably could have taken dragon off of this but for some reason we didn't, i just take his big wraith again and donate red to Darius.

11:08 Bottom is pushed up so i can just straight up lane gank. I have boots and philo so i am literally only a slow and AS buff at this point. It doesn't matter since I am hit points they still have to go through. We misplay the exit, but Sona had to ult and exhaust.

I bought Rengar and just wasn't impressed. I had a bunch of middling games and a bunch of bad games in blind pick and just wasn't feeling it. I think he has been nerfed into oblivion.

Buy sword of the divine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StE-f3PqSQ8




Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Bzalthek on January 01, 2013, 08:54:01 PM
Never could get those replay videos to work.  Everytime I try it seems the version is out of date or some shit.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Setanta on January 02, 2013, 05:58:56 AM
Same issue here - tries to backwards patch LoL and then fails miserably :S


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on January 02, 2013, 08:23:06 AM
Replays are unquestionably the best thing Riot could add to the game right now.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on January 02, 2013, 10:52:02 AM
You know you've been having a bad run when the most fun you've had lately is against a troll team composed of Galio, Lux, Morgana, Nunu and Cass.  My team was bitching the entire time because all the other team did was try to push down towers.  They didn't like fighting against it, but I found it rather amusing.  Our Rammus (great pick into all AP) kept stealing quadras from our Riven, and she was getting really annoyed.  I couldn't stop chuckling. 

Definitely better than the game where I had to play ADC.  "Ohh, you said you didn't want to play ADC right?"  I was 130 CS up on anyone on my team (nearly a 6 item Cait).  They did no damage in fights and our Eve would die near instantly (usually after diving their entire team alone).  So every team fight was their Shyv, Garen or Akali just diving straight for me while the rest of my team did no damage and didn't bother to try to keep people off me.  The Lee, part of a premade, was really heaping everything on me and it was a bit obnoxious.  Didn't help that the premade were also bitching hard amongst themselves.  They didn't seem that good, which is odd, since looking them up shows them all to be around 1250-1450 ELO.  Their Nunu was nice, but he seems like the least active of their foursome. 

I'm in a weird normal elo right now.  Everyone seems to be higher elo in ranked than me (when I played ranked last season) when I check their profiles.  I'm typically seem to be playing against better players.  At least they seem better than me.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on January 03, 2013, 08:33:05 AM
I've been doing a lot of playing Dominion. It's fast. It's fun.

Actually, when I say "play Dominion", that means "running around as Eve, murdering everything that moves":
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24335769#history

I feel like playing solo Q is an exercise in training my patience. It's maybe something I should do, but really, it's more morbid curiousity of "guess who'll start blaming who first".


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on January 03, 2013, 10:32:05 AM
I prefer to call it "who am I going to want to stab in the crotch first" along with the side game of "how long before the shitdick shows his face." The latter is often measured in SECONDS.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on January 03, 2013, 11:03:54 AM
Had a game last night where this duo swore up and down that our jungler was "snoopeh" and I should let them jungle cause we were gonna win so easily. I had grabed malph as first pick and was gonna jungle him but traded with this guy.

So first off I think I vaguely heard of snoopeh but I really dont give a fuck.  Secondly after I traded there was supposed to be another trade that never happened, but not my fault. 

We end up having a malph with support masteries and a nidalee with smite and jungling.  A fuck up to be sure but for a pro lol player? we lost at 25min 4/30


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on January 03, 2013, 11:09:56 AM
I feel like playing solo Q is an exercise in training my patience. It's maybe something I should do, but really, it's more morbid curiousity of "guess who'll start blaming who first".

I don't think I can be a big enough jerk to try ranked again.  You have to be willing to deal with the 5th pick that's calling his lane and champ and threatening to troll if you don't give in.  

Plus, whenever I state I don't want to be ADC or jungle, and am lower than 3rd pick, I'm always 1 of the 2.  That's fine, but it seems to always happen.  No one wants to ADC or jungle at low/starting elo.  They are my worst roles by a lot.  I just don't have a feel for jungle ganks, and always seem to fall behind in levels.  Additionally, I don't have a good pool of jungle champs I'm comfortable with.  With ADC? If they ban or pick Cait, I might as well dodge.  Plus, I can't team fight for shit as an ADC, I just don't get it.

I managed to win a game last night where I had 3 deaths to losing connection when Olaf engaged my GP.  This dude would also ignite to waste my potions.  It was kind of weird, especially when he could have gotten some easy dive kills when I was low by simply just igniting and then using his true damage nuke.  Ohh, and nothing like engaging with your jungle and immediately going link dead.  God, that was an obnoxious game.  On top of everything, I needed the use the bathroom urgently.  Luckily their team prematurely gave up.  They weren't totally out of it, kills were close, but they were losing objectives badly and everyone of them was down on farm.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on January 03, 2013, 11:21:39 AM
I don't know why people in solo queue can't understand pick order. Yes, you can call TOP all you want as 5th pick, but if one of the 4 guys above you in the order wants to top, he can take that top and you are either going to be stuck playing a champ we don't need while neglecting a role we do need, or just fucking playing what's left. It isn't even about the 4 guys above you being a dick or not because you have no fucking leverage other than troll or queue dodge. And frankly, most people would rather you dodge than troll because fucking elo falls FAST when the trolls come into play. I still try to call my lane, but if someone above me picks it, I pick another role.

And the dickheads who only know one role and one or two champs with that role, why the fuck are you playing draft order anyway? There's no way to be sure you'll get to pick your pet champ/lane combo, so you are almost guaranteed to piss your team off. WHY?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on January 03, 2013, 11:24:11 AM
Because their friends play ranked and they're really good with Riven.  RIVEN TOP AND/OR I FEED!!@#!!@#


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on January 03, 2013, 11:44:53 AM
No matter what you cant argue with pick order but I hold respect for calling spots because these are usually the roles these people are best in and just cause I wanna go top, maybe the 5th pick is ONLY good top.  You just kind of have to balance it really.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: statisticalfool on January 03, 2013, 11:56:27 AM
Yeah. I always give a whole list of preferences "mid > top > support > jungle > adc", and since I don't mind supporting, I never end up being the sticking point for call wars...and in the end, I don't even end up supporting that much.

Jungling is pretty dead to me these days: no interest in being the lightning rod for blame, and I don't feel like it improves my skills nearly as much to jungle as it is to lane. Or just play dominion.




Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on January 03, 2013, 12:59:29 PM
I don't know who plays ranked, but keep in mind that in ranked is sorts players by Elo, and it often pays to have your best players playing their preferred role.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on January 03, 2013, 01:22:57 PM
I don't know who plays ranked, but keep in mind that in ranked is sorts players by Elo, and it often pays to have your best players playing their preferred role.

Yes but say I'm highest Elo and first pick. I can do anything I want but someone else calls support which is my best role. Now I can jungle well too but maybe they can only support well, if I pick support then we're screwed.*












*support is also a terrible example but hey it's what I'm good at.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on January 03, 2013, 01:32:53 PM
Hah, as first pick I'd say I end up as support at least 50% of the time (this is just in normal draft).   I'll try to get a support/ADC/jungle to pick for me later, and we'll trade, but almost no one ever goes for it.   Picking a top or mid first leaves you really open to getting countered hard, unless you pick someone fairly safe.  Seems like every time I've picked Ryze lately, the next pick is always Cass.  Early GP? ENJOY YOUR TEEMO/ELISE/PANTH SPONSORED ASSRAPE.

Nothing quite like first pick Taric or Soraka.   :awesome_for_real:

edit: Also, not saying you can't get counterpicked hard botlane.  But at least you're not on your own getting reamed.  You've got a friend (who does not like you) to enjoy it with you.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on January 03, 2013, 01:57:15 PM
I will usually go into a game knowing what role I want to play, but I've gotten proficient enough with enough champs at all the roles that I can play whatever without looking like a complete tool (most games). I'll call the lane I want. If someone higher than me takes that role, I call a different role that hasn't been called. Depending on how someone reacts, I'll let someone below me take the role I had - but only if they don't douche out over it. Douchieness will only make my inner (and not so far from the surface) dickhead come out, just to spite you.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on January 03, 2013, 02:27:28 PM
I'll admit that when someone says in draft "mid or feed" and I pick before them I purposefully pick mid and tell them tough shit.

  Or when I call a spot just by saying "jungle" and instead of "i'd prefer jungle can you do something else?" I get "fuck you im first I get jungle" then I'll just pick a jungler with smite as well and wait for the one second mark to switch champs. Usually someone bails then which is fine cause teammates like that are generally terrible.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Kail on January 03, 2013, 05:20:34 PM
Well, just had my first ranked game ever... and the game decides I should be team captain. :uhrr:  I thought it was supposed to rank by experience or something, jeez.  I'm sitting there going "well, if we're up against Dan Dinh, I should definitely ban Evelyn... and, uh, I hate the way Trundle looks, so he's banned... and, shoot, need a third one... umm... eeenie.... meenie..."

I took more kills from the carry than I would have liked, and both teams had an AFK, but otherwise, it wasn't as disastrous as I'd feared.  Yorick as solo top was crushing.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Goumindong on January 03, 2013, 06:13:08 PM
If it gave you captain it meant that the people you were playing with hard ratings below yours. You start at 1200 provisional and so does everyone else, so you've got the same chance of landing captain during your provisionals as you do after.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on January 04, 2013, 01:50:52 PM
God, Maokai is such a beast as a jungler and I really think I'm getting the hang of him. Unfortunately, my last match just highlighted the need to ethnically cleanse the fucking LOL community post-haste.

I get first pick, choose jungle Mao. Third pick calls top, then 2nd pick calls top. Easy choice, 2nd pick gets top. Nope. Apparently, 3rd pick is a spoiled 13 year old with entitlement issues who instalocks Irelia. 2nd pick takes Garen and at least agrees to go bot. Then we get invaded by the whole team, our Morg mid is still sitting in spawn and I take 2 stupid deaths and they get our blue. However, we still manage to not fuck it up too bad even though I took a third death trying to gank top because the fucking Irelia ignored me saying I was ganking top and went back to spawn. I get to turret hugging and get killed by a Jayce/Shaco combo. Yet somehow, it starts to turn around. By mid game, we're pulling off aces even though fucking Irelia keeps going top solo until she knocks down the 2nd turret. Yet the whole game we keep having to tell her to group up. Most team fights end up 4v4 or 4v5 because of it. I die a lot but I'm tanking in team fights a man down so meh. We lost the game but I ended up with 12/14/18. Irelia got 7/8/9. Take away 3 stupid deaths for the invasion and the idiot abandoning me at top on my first gank, and I'm in positive territory. And yes, I reported the Irelia for all the fucking good it would do.

Last night's game was better. Other team had the idiot child Panth who gave up after level 7 and AFK'ed. I led Mao to a 5/0/5 20-minute or so surrender. I think that was the first time I didn't die at all in a game.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Slayerik on January 04, 2013, 02:13:26 PM
I kinda miss this game. Might even fire it up this weekend...

Haemish, play MWO once in a while. Actually, that goes for all of you :)


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Kail on January 04, 2013, 11:10:20 PM
Stupid question: what's the difference between a mid lane champ and a top lane champ?  I (think I kinda) understand why you'd get two bottom as an AD/Support, and that you'd also want an AP somewhere, but aside from someone like TF or Panth with their limited range ults, I'm not sure why it matters so much who goes top versus who goes mid.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: ezrast on January 04, 2013, 11:26:18 PM
1) Mid lane is shorter, meaning the safety of your tower is never far away - this is good for squishier champs with less mobility. Top lane is forced to extend further out, so it naturally lends itself to tankier champs with mobility or sustain.

2) Mid lane is in the middle, so it's likely going to receive the most ganks. Characters with high burst and CC are best able to capitalize on ganks. Top lane is farthest from dragon, so it's going to have the least jungle presence and favors strong 1v1 champs.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: luckton on January 06, 2013, 05:23:38 PM
A combination of getting a firmer grip on handling Yorick and the randomness of solo queue strangeness has led to a nice string of victories for me; 8 wins, 3 losses, averaging 4/4/6 for K/D/As.  I blame two of the three losses on bad teammates, while the third was just a complete shutout from what I can only assume was an organized team (3/11/9 for my stats that match)

I've found that most of the advisement literature for Yorick holds true for S3 as it did for S2, with some slight variations and my own personal experience.  I start now with a Crystal Flask, Faerie Pendent, and one HP/MP pot each.  That gives me enough early game regen to last quite a bit, especially depending on how harsh I harass/push myself, which isn't really much if I play solo top or mid.  In those instances I'm just freezing the lane right in front of my tower, making me nigh gank-proof and giving my opponents antsy to try and sneak in a hit.  Many of them never expect the slow and vamp ghoul hits I toss out until it's too late; they expect me to run a la Darias/Garen and hit 'em with the shovel  :awesome_for_real:.

Once I've got the coin, I grab basic boots and upgrade the Faerie to a Tear of the Goddess as soon as I can afford one.  The quicker I start building up that mana pool passive, which carries over to the upgraded Manamune, the better.  Rushing to Manamune and forgoing Doran Blades kinda hurts me both DPS and survival-wise, but with the Manamune, I get that mana pool increase off melee hits too.  The new Muramana for S3 makes it all worth it, as the mana regen + AD off of my mana pool lets me hit rather hard.  If I get blue buffed, then I'll activate the Muramana for that "tons of damage"

After Manamune, it's Merc Shoes and Spirit Visage time.  Merc Shoes for the Magic Resist and Tenacity, Spirit Visage for heath, cooldown, and vamp/regen buff.  The ghouls get a lot more numerous and stronger with the Spirit Visage up, and I can also start to tower dive with a little more confidence.

My next two item picks right now is some combination of Iceborn Gauntlets, Frozen Heart, and Frozen Mallet.  All three benefit me in some way, though I can never really exploit all three fully without something either overlapping (cooldown reduction) or being useless (AP).  I've been grabbing Frozen Heart first, but I have yet to give the Gauntlets a good shake.

The last item is open to whatever I think would be best.  Right now it's Guardian Angel (because who doesn't need a second res on top of the one I get from my ult?!), but Warmogs/Randuins/Runic Bulwark make me super tanky, and Bloodthirster/Black Cleaver make me hit like a truck.  Still experimenting...


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on January 08, 2013, 10:13:26 PM
Because mid-lane is in the middle your mid-laner can also roam to both top and bottom, show up for jungle fights around red and blue, etc. Top lane tends to mostly just stay top and sometimes help in top-side jungle.

The ideal mid-laner is someone that can effectively roam around the map, meaning they can clear waves mid pretty quickly.

That said there's no rule that top has to be some AD bruiser and mid has to be AP. You can put AP top and AD mid, or two AP, or whatever, as long as the rest of the team supports it.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on January 09, 2013, 11:49:09 PM
So, this game happened:


I've honestly never seen anything like it.  I never used my biscuit.  I never took consume.  The Alistar wasn't even that bad.  He could land the headbutt/pulv combo.  He'd land it, then I'd snowball ez, haste ashe, and she'd double kill them easy. 

I think the closest we got to dying was early when they could outpush/trade us.  Then after first back they were irrelevant it seemed like.

And Garen solo'd both Olaf and Khaz like 4 minutes in.   :ye_gods:  Then did it a couple more times.

Very cordial game, though.  We were all back patting, and they were stunned/laughing at the absurdity of it all.  Also, finally a pleasant game.  Mon/Tuesday was jerks on parade.





Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: luckton on January 10, 2013, 05:30:27 AM
Good to know that noob plays still exist at 30.  I've been having this fear, as I work through the last 10 levels, that once I reach the end all of my games thereafter would be my face being smashed into a wall for 20 minutes every match   :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: MrHat on January 10, 2013, 08:54:58 AM
Good to know that noob plays still exist at 30.  I've been having this fear, as I work through the last 10 levels, that once I reach the end all of my games thereafter would be my face being smashed into a wall for 20 minutes every match   :why_so_serious:

Heh, well, I think this is Rasix's first post that had something nice to say about his teammates/opponents.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on January 10, 2013, 11:32:57 AM
Good to know that noob plays still exist at 30.  I've been having this fear, as I work through the last 10 levels, that once I reach the end all of my games thereafter would be my face being smashed into a wall for 20 minutes every match   :why_so_serious:

No, no. Drop into a low elo and be AMAZED. I had a troll in my game last night that absolutely ruined the game for my team. A Kayle who started the game saying they were on the toilet, getting drunk, took the first red buff, said they were trolling, then proceeded to die and entirely shit up the game of 4 other people. I thought to myself, "I spent over a year getting to level 30 to play in ranked games. This person must have spent at least half that if not more building their account to level 30. Did they do that entirely to fuck up someone else's day? That's like having a mission from God to be a complete asshole."

The only other explanations I have for so many trolls at low elo are 1) their elo has dropped so low, they've lost the will to play but can't quit, or 2) their account has been hacked. Otherwise, I just can't understand spending that much time to shit on people.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on January 10, 2013, 11:43:03 AM
I stopped wanting to play ranked when my ELO hit 1337, just cause.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on January 10, 2013, 03:46:55 PM
Good to know that noob plays still exist at 30.  I've been having this fear, as I work through the last 10 levels, that once I reach the end all of my games thereafter would be my face being smashed into a wall for 20 minutes every match   :why_so_serious:

Heh, well, I think this is Rasix's first post that had something nice to say about his teammates/opponents.

It's a rarity.

I guess this is just the first game I can remember being in where one side got no kills at all. I don't even think they had a single turret down.  10.8k gold lead at 20 minutes.  I suppose I've seen stomps that hard in pro games, but their stomps also come with competent last hitting mechanics.

As far as noobs, it seems to go in cycles.  I don't know how normal does its ELO calculations (because it does use it), but there's some weeks where the game is silly easy and some where I feel like I'm out matched in every game.  Could just be luck, but it seems to follow that cycle pretty predictably.  The week where you're getting stomped is a tough one to take.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on January 10, 2013, 04:28:22 PM
I honestly believe that the matchmaking puts you in winnable matchups for a while to build up a winning streak (or knows when you have a winning streak) and then slams you with the biggest sack of useless shit players repeatedly until you get a losing streak going. It seems like I'll get a good run going, then it gets followed with the One-Armed Meth Using Retard Circus Parade.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Kail on January 10, 2013, 04:58:32 PM
I guess this is just the first game I can remember being in where one side got no kills at all. I don't even think they had a single turret down.  10.8k gold lead at 20 minutes.  I suppose I've seen stomps that hard in pro games, but their stomps also come with competent last hitting mechanics.

As far as noobs, it seems to go in cycles.  I don't know how normal does its ELO calculations (because it does use it), but there's some weeks where the game is silly easy and some where I feel like I'm out matched in every game.  Could just be luck, but it seems to follow that cycle pretty predictably.  The week where you're getting stomped is a tough one to take.

I had a weird one today, too (still unranked, still picks me to be team leader :P).  Our team got four kills before minions spawned.  It wasn't like we jumped on them in a 5v5 either, their mid just stood in vision range of our tower as we were crossing river, so we killed her, then their jungler ambles out of the brushes like nothing's going on and dies instantly, then all five of us migrated south to dive their bottom lane and kill them.  It was crazy.  They had a pretty weird comp, too, bottom lane was Sona and AD Kayle with a BF and a Vamp who ended up going 0/3/5 (Sona ended up with more kills than her).  They spent basically the first ten minutes under their tower because we'd poke them to death every time they stuck their nose out.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ashamanchill on January 10, 2013, 09:00:35 PM
I honestly believe that the matchmaking puts you in winnable matchups for a while to build up a winning streak (or knows when you have a winning streak) and then slams you with the biggest sack of useless shit players repeatedly until you get a losing streak going. It seems like I'll get a good run going, then it gets followed with the One-Armed Meth Using Retard Circus Parade.

Despite Riot's insistence otherwise, there is NO way this isn't the case.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Der Helm on January 11, 2013, 12:15:53 AM
I honestly believe that the matchmaking puts you in winnable matchups for a while to build up a winning streak (or knows when you have a winning streak) and then slams you with the biggest sack of useless shit players repeatedly until you get a losing streak going. It seems like I'll get a good run going, then it gets followed with the One-Armed Meth Using Retard Circus Parade.

Despite Riot's insistence otherwise, there is NO way this isn't the case.
This. So much this.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on January 11, 2013, 05:43:31 AM
Just played a very silly game. I said I would play support, our captain picked Blitz immediately without asking if I had or played Blitz with the intention to trade with me. Luckily I do own Blitz, although I almost never play him.

So in lane I land a bunch of godlike grabs and we get up about 14-4. Then our mid Mordekaiser disconnects. We are pretty far ahead so we can still push 4 v 5, but we really lack damage and tankyness now so instead of building support items I start building wacky stuff like a Trinity Force and Warmogs.

We get to the point where we have one enemy inhib down but the enemy team has enough levels and farm that they can destroy us 5 v 4. I keep telling the team that since the mid lane is pushing already we should just carefully push top and bottom, but they keep trying to just rush in as 5 and Zerg down the enemy Nexus. We get aced a couple times but the enemy always has 1 or 2 inhibs down and can't really do much outside of their base. This goes on for a while until finally I buy banner of command, the thing that makes your minions do more damage. I run around using Blitz's speed boost to buff up whatever lane has minions in it. If I see someone I try to grab them, knock them up, then just run around and waste time while our minions continue into their base. So finally all the lanes are pushing and we get all three inhibs down, then our Mordekaiser reconnects (but he's like level 10 and everyone else is 18) and we win by basically just running around behind our minions while they do all the work.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: pxib on January 11, 2013, 03:21:16 PM
All the minions get stronger for each inhibitor you get down, and with all three it doubles the brutes at each. I have only once seen a team hold off death once they had all three inhibitors down, and they had absolutely godly AOE. They managed until two of the inhibitors came back up more or less simultaneously. Just the minions, mind you, as soon as my team finished Baron and headed in they crumpled like tissue paper.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: luckton on January 11, 2013, 08:04:10 PM
Just wrapped up a match that had me on a Rampage with Yorick (which is kinda hard to do for a melee champ that doesn't really rely too much on meleeing  :why_so_serious:).  Nevertheless, the solo queue was gracious to me; although the team consisted of me, Nasus (at the bot with me), Wukong and Panth on top, and Eve in the mid, we all seem to have our shit together (except Eve; kept getting destroyed by Orianna at mid), and Nasus and I gave Blitz and Trist a run for their money.

Course, having upgraded my Runes from Regulars to Greaters this week (yay 20  :awesome_for_real:) has really helped my early game.  Even when Blitz managed to grab me, I could actually shovel him in the head, ghoul rape him, AND survive  :drill:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on January 12, 2013, 11:23:42 PM
I always lose dodge chicken.  Some guy doesn't get mid, he instalocks jungle Teemo.  Ok, guy, I'll go play Skyrim.

edit: Yah, I've slipped into head-injury normal ELO.  The Cait I was supporting just now stood absolutely still while CSing, and the Graves/Fiddle combo didn't even bother to harass.  We still won. 


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: jakonovski on January 14, 2013, 06:01:22 AM
Had to play a few matches to reaffirm that my memories were accurate. Is it just me or is Blitzcrank way powerful these days?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: luckton on January 14, 2013, 07:02:43 AM
Had to play a few matches to reaffirm that my memories were accurate. Is it just me or is Blitzcrank way powerful these days?

I find it all depends on how he's played.  You have some people that are trick-shots with that Rocket Grab.  Others...not so much  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: jakonovski on January 14, 2013, 07:26:22 AM
I've must've played Revolver Ocelot then. He had the new punchy chick as his lane mate, it was ugly.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on January 14, 2013, 09:01:53 AM
Blitzcrank is a seriously high skill champ. If you miss your grabs, he's a bit weak. If you can make at least half your grabs, he can absolutely melt faces with the best of them. Pair him with a good ADC in bot lane, grab knock up stun dead champ win lane honorallplz. He won't carry unless the opposition is just slapdash idiots, but he can certainly turn the tide.

I'm loving jungle Maokai these days. If my team is halfway competent, or has at least one competent burst damage carry, I can just WRECK teams. Last night's was a 17/13/26 match that I was sure would be a frustrating loss. Our top lane Mundo and our ADC Teemo both came into the game disconnected, but luckily so did 2 of the other team as well. It was Mundo top, LeBlanc mid, Mao jungle, Teemo and Taric bot against Darius top, Annie mid, Malphite jungle and Miss Fortune and Draven bot (yeah, I know... WTF?). Mundo got behind on farm and kept getting laned and killed by Darius. I can't really help him much, as the double ADC bot lane is getting pushed a bit. I go to gank bot, telling them in chat I'm coming AND pinging. Teemo, who has been damaged a bit goes and sits under his turret while Taric is back at base and ignores my gank. I root Draven, and both he and MF start to run. Toss a sapling into the bushes to maintain LOS, root start pounding. Draven goes down. MF is at about 3/4 health and I'm low. All it requires is for Teemo to MOVE HIS LITTLE MUSHROOM DROPPING ASS and poison MF's ass and he does nothing... until I die. THEN he comes out and quickly dispatches MF. A few minutes later and a similar situation happens where he just ignores my attack, I die then he comes in and mops up for a kill only after I'm dead. So I figure this game is going to be a quick disaster.

Fortunately for us, the other team had NO FUCKING CLUE how to team fight. Their Annie continued all game to get in positions where she could be rooted and chased down 1 or 2 v 1 and died a lot. Their MF and Draven LOVED to attack me while leaving Teemo or Leblanc alone, especially when I was sitting under a turret taking damage while the Teemo or Leblanc blew up the turrets and/or the carries. The Taric was fantastic using his stuns and heals at the right times. Their Malphite was just INCREDIBLY bad (6/8/17) often standing under turrets while his teammates got killed right in front of him. Our LeBlanc just did SICK burst damage everywhere. GGWPHONORALL. Well not all, because the Mundo and Teemo were bad players.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on January 14, 2013, 11:06:19 PM
I don't normally play Blitz but a couple times recently he wasn't banned and our leader first picked him to trade with me without asking. Both those games I absolutely destroyed the enemy  team with him. Because Blitz was banned for so long it seems like people have completely forgotten how to play against him. I landed so many grabs behind walls it was just silly.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on January 15, 2013, 09:49:12 AM
Last night the opposing team was angling for a normally banned champ in draft so they left blitz and mumu free with first pick.  They picked blitz, I picked mumu....never bet against a mummy.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on January 15, 2013, 10:12:30 AM
Whenever I get Blitz the enemy team is full of Alistars, Amumus and Singes.  Doesn't help that I'm incredibly streaky with skillshot champs.  I also seem to get paired with a complete retard whenever I get Blitz.  They never, ever follow up on any sort of hook or popup.

My win rate with Taric is getting a bit absurd.  This is going pretty much for support in general.  I just pick Taric or Nunu and always seem to win my lane.  Winning the game isn't always in the cards because late game Taric is a bit of a speedbump, and Nunu does about 0 damage late game as well, but has great utility in team fights.  Plus, you can win your lane hard, but your AD can CS poorly or just suck in team fights (like I do).

My game last night was interesting.  Winning early, despite our Lux complaining that she's no match for the other team's Kat.  Mid game Kat gets super fed and we make some dumb plays.  Surrender vote initiated, people start bitching at our jungler.  This despite our ADC having less farm than the jungler even though we won our lane really hard.  The ADC (Graves) and Lux were absolutely wretched.  Lux did not hit a single combo all game.  Graves would wander off while we were grouped and get solo'd by everyone including their support Nid.  People stop complaining.  We get a catch.  Win a teamfight and get 3 turrets.  Win the next team fight and win the game.   I take a look at the ELOs afterwards.  There's quite a spread there.  Anywhere from 1600 - 1200.  I wonder if ranked would provide a more even experience, without such a huge disparity in player ability.

My one fear with ranked:  I'm a very good support. I'm decent top and mid (relatively poor at certain matchups, bad map awareness, but solid teamfight and laning).  But I am a horrid ADC and jungler.  Everything but support seemed to tank my ELO last season.   Granted it wasn't a huge sample, but while I have fun with the solo lanes, I just don't win with them.  

edit: Tank build Kat is a bit bullshit.  Can fall off a bit, but early/mid, I don't think I've encountered anything more annoying.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on January 15, 2013, 11:06:13 AM
Tank build Kat is a bit bullshit.  Can fall off a bit, but early/mid, I don't think I've encountered anything more annoying.

Haven't heard of this one. Elaborate?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on January 15, 2013, 11:15:13 AM
Rush a warmogs or sunfire cape (if against AD) or both.  Haunting Guise, rylai's,  abyssal, boots to situation (whenever).  Don't see it played a lot, but it makes Kat extremely hard to kill and lets her skirmish pretty effectively.  Plus, you can't burst her down easily and during a teamfight she will be alive for her resets. 


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: MrHat on January 15, 2013, 11:32:34 AM
Rush a warmogs or sunfire cape (if against AD) or both.  Haunting Guise, rylai's,  abyssal, boots to situation (whenever).  Don't see it played a lot, but it makes Kat extremely hard to kill and lets her skirmish pretty effectively.  Plus, you can't burst her down easily and during a teamfight she will be alive for her resets. 

Interesting. I love me some Kat and will give this a try later.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Goumindong on January 15, 2013, 11:45:19 AM
Haven't heard of this one. Elaborate?

Kat has very high base damages and so benefits a lot from building tanky. It means she isn't at risk of being burst down and is more likely to get resets. Top Lane Tank Katarina was played fairly successfully in the season 3 qualifiers. (also the mid lane Nashor's Tooth AP Kayle you're going to be seeing a lot of)

Had to play a few matches to reaffirm that my memories were accurate. Is it just me or is Blitzcrank way powerful these days?

Blitz has always and will always be way powerful just because of the strength of the pull. As it stands, blitzcrank has some of the worst base damages in the game(which is what keeps him from being top/jungle) and bad scaling (he needs his maxed w to keep up in attack speed with most melee champs). But that grab is just so strong.

@Rasix Ranked can be just as variable as normals but you don't get as many ELO differences since fewer people duo queue 1600 to 1200. While more people will 3-4 man queue with those elo differences.

Also, you're likely to get support since no one likes to do it. Just tell people your solo lane is weak


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on January 15, 2013, 11:52:42 AM
I've tried the AP Kayle build.  It's pretty boss top lane as well. 


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: ezrast on January 15, 2013, 12:42:50 PM
I retry Kayle occasionally. I just can't get used to it. Everything about her feels wrong now. Like Peach in Super Smash Brothers Brawl.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Kail on January 15, 2013, 03:40:52 PM
Speaking of Kayle, just had a real  :uhrr: game.

Our ADC picks Cait first, I'm second and ask what we need, nobody answers, so I volunteer for support.  ADC asks for Nunu, but I hate Nunu, can I go Lulu, he says ok, done.  Third and fourth picks are Cho and Wukong.  Fifth pick says he's going to support bottom and locks Kayle.  Cho's not jungling, so we've got no jungler, and two supports.  

Game starts up and both Cho and Wukong both go top, so things waffle for a bit before finally Wu agrees to go bot with Kayle while I support Cho.  We're doing op top, despite eating a few ganks from the enemy shaco mostly because it's a 1v2 lane.  The bottom lane (Kayle + Wukong) is getting destroyed, though, with the score something like 0-7 at the ten minute mark.  We drop their mid almost as soon as they drop our bottom tower, and the teamfights happen.  We're getting picked apart because they're fed and we're not, but despite the yakkety sax beginning, Cait is doing all right, Cho's fairly farmed, and Kayle's not actually a bad player.  Wukong starts voting for surrender, because he's 0-8-0, but an initiation goes bad for the enemy team and we score a few kills, morale goes up, and the surrender gets voted down.  Wukong ragequits, and I'm thinking we're fucked, down 4v5 and underfarmed, but the only real threat on the enemy team is their fed Ezreal, and our Cait can take him down since she's got two "panic button" supports hanging off of her while Ezreal's just got Taric, and our Cho can tank the rest of their team pretty nicely.  Their entire initiation depends on Taric, so we just focus him down next time he comes near and mop up the rest of their team.  After that, their Nidalee decides to split push, so we have a base race for a bit which we win because it's four of us versus just her, and long story short, we grab two inhibitors and somehow manage to win despite being in a 4v5 and down in kills for the entire game.  

Final kill tally was 18-20 their lead, with my own score of 0-1-8.  A few too many mistimed spells from me (Kayle and I ulting the same target, me missing a clutch shield or two, that kind of thing) but otherwise, one of those games where you just sit there blinking at the victory screen going "wait, what?  Victory? What?"



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: MrHat on January 15, 2013, 05:42:03 PM
A fed Cait is a thing to fear.

Double support on her - I can only imagine the frustration of the other team.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on January 17, 2013, 01:36:37 PM
I'm never agreeing to fill again.  Every time I do, I end up playing the position no one wants, and then of course it is my fault if I'm not stellar at whatever is left over.  Fuck that, I go out of my way to be nice so other people can play what they prefer and all it does is get me bitched at.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rokal on January 17, 2013, 06:33:06 PM
I'm never agreeing to fill again.  Every time I do, I end up playing the position no one wants, and then of course it is my fault if I'm not stellar at whatever is left over.  Fuck that, I go out of my way to be nice so other people can play what they prefer and all it does is get me bitched at.

I have resigned myself to playing mostly Jungle or Support  in solo-queue because Mid/Top are usually called immediately and I suck as ADC. I always sympathize with the player who takes whatever the last role is and does a poor job: they probably didn't want to play that role in the first place.

I've found that usually the players that pick first are the ones who feed though. One of my recent games had an Ahri and Riven call their lanes as soon as we got into the chat room. Despite bot and jungle doing well, our mid and top proceeded to lose their lanes by embarrassing amounts and then afk'd at the fountain. We lost around minute 17.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on January 17, 2013, 08:15:06 PM
Friends don't let friends blind pick.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on January 17, 2013, 09:11:44 PM
Friends don't let friends blind pick.

It wasn't even Blind pick, it was a solo queue ranked game, I was captain.  I called out adc, but there was a duo in the game that wanted to bot together, so I agreed to fill in the only remaining spot - jungle - and proceded to have a pretty bad/mediocre at best game as Kha'zix.  Of course, everyone blamed me for the loss.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Xuri on January 17, 2013, 10:59:02 PM
Whelp. Just played a random game where four people yelled for "top" as soon as we joined the chat, while I picked adc bot. What I did not know at the time, was that I would be SOLO adc bot - as Ezreal, against Cait + Sona - since two people on my team decided to go top in the end (neither as support). Guess who gets grief when we lose the game (my stats: 4/8/15 ), for "losing to Cait"?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rokal on January 17, 2013, 11:31:41 PM
Friends don't let friends blind pick.

What do you do, solo ranked? Draft mode normals had long queues last time I tried and ranked games everyone seemed to take way too seriously.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on January 17, 2013, 11:35:23 PM
I think my longest draft normal queues are like 2 minutes.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Goumindong on January 18, 2013, 01:45:33 AM
You have to be really bad or really good to have long queues for normal draft mode. I am like 1500 and its usually under a minute, up to like 3-4 max if I, for some reason, decide to play at 3 in the morning


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on January 18, 2013, 07:15:31 AM
Friends don't let friends blind pick.

What do you do, solo ranked? Draft mode normals had long queues last time I tried and ranked games everyone seemed to take way too seriously.

Solo ranked is really the way to go in my opinion, although it took me a while to come around to it.  In my experience people in normal draft take the game just as seriously, except now you are in a game that isn't as neatly sorted by skill level.  Sometimes ranked can put a lot of pressure on to perform though.  For example if I'm really tired I won't play ranked.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on January 18, 2013, 08:43:18 AM
Draft mode normal queues are still under a minute for me, even if they say longer.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on January 18, 2013, 10:00:10 AM
My queues for solo ranked are usually under 2 minutes but I have lately had to go through 3 or 4 last minute queue dodges before I can get a fucking game. And there is almost always a "I ONLY CAN PLAY OR WANT TO PLAY THIS ROLE AND WWAAARRARRRGGLBLBBLBLELELE" troll shit on either my side or the other side.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on January 18, 2013, 10:20:24 AM
ANY time someone says they or their friend is a smurf in ranked queue, bail and bail fast.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on January 18, 2013, 10:39:27 AM
Miserable run of games last night. 

Pro tip:  don't play when you're mentally and physically exhausted. 

I really didn't play that awfully, but I was unable to capitalize on some opportunities I normally do.  My Nunu game, a possible double kill for us turns into a triple the other way.  Taric game, we won lane pretty well and avoided ganks.   But mid got destroyed and top was a useless Warwick (never saw this guy even ult someone important).   Thus, incoming 4 man gangbangs. 

I think I'm back to unbalanced, "get your shit pushed in" matchmaking after enjoying a week of "holy shit these guys are bad".  Ohh well.  Perhaps I should just troll pick or try a new champ/build after every win.  Keep things balanced.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on January 19, 2013, 11:26:27 PM
I only play a maximum of 3 ranked games in a row now.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Nightblade on January 19, 2013, 11:38:06 PM
Been on a massive winning streak with my own adaptation of AP kayle on dominion, a welcome change from my Wukong losing streak.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on January 20, 2013, 02:25:46 AM
4-game winning streak. Tonight's game came courtesy of no one banning Shen. I played him top at the request of my team even though I hadn't played him in months. Got pushed early by a decent Olaf, started snowballing a bit after I helped with an ult 3v2 gank bot. Got some serious help from a Nami who synergizes with Shen REALLY WELL. Ended the game with 9/7/24, Nami had 29 assists and even losing all 3 turrets early didn't hurt as in the end because we simply couldn't lose team fights. Our jungling Vi raped asses with and without our help.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Goumindong on January 20, 2013, 04:24:23 AM
ANY time someone says they or their friend is a smurf in ranked queue, bail and bail fast.

I legitimately ran into Best Singed NA (http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/23212215) once (playing on his smurf Hurk)

He played singed. He ruined


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rokal on January 20, 2013, 01:43:01 PM
Solo ranked is really the way to go in my opinion, although it took me a while to come around to it.  In my experience people in normal draft take the game just as seriously, except now you are in a game that isn't as neatly sorted by skill level.  Sometimes ranked can put a lot of pressure on to perform though.  For example if I'm really tired I won't play ranked.

I started playing solo ranked at the advice of this thread and in general it's been a good experience so far. People seem slightly more polite than in normal, which is not how I remember ranked being.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on January 20, 2013, 01:51:05 PM
You are playing a different ranked than me.  :uhrr:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on January 20, 2013, 02:00:55 PM
I don't think I've seen a drastic difference either way in demeanor.  But I will say that because people have their internet points on the line, they do in my experience try their best to make whatever is going on work.  You might get bitched at, but I've seen way fewer people do things like *5 minutes into the game* - "This jungler hasn't ganked my lane yet, noob jungler, gg" and proceed to just check out.  Most ranked players value their Elo enough to at least try to win for a while.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on January 20, 2013, 02:20:50 PM
I'm thinking about just going to ranked, the ELO ranges in my normal play are just getting out of hand.  I had to go up against a 1500 elo top lane main yesterday.  I'm not likely within 200-300 ELO of that. 

Also, top lane AP Kayle can get a bit messy.  I think she works better mid.  You're just extremely vulnerable to ganks up there and your Q-E isn't going to kill anyone.  So, anyone with a good gap closer and some sort of high damage combo is going to chunk your ass and then follow you down that huge lane.  Assassins are just so popular right now. Mid, you can push and then completely remove yourself from risk.  She's just beastmode after you get Nashors/Liandrys.  You're still highly vulnerable and can get bursted in team fights before you can even get your ult off.

I really need to work on my farming.  I'm getting wrecked in the CS department.  Again, this partially do to ELO differences in matchups. 


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on January 20, 2013, 11:13:24 PM
Wow.  First ranked lobby went like this.  

first pick (me): pref not adc or jungle
fifth pick: jungle
fourth pick: top
me:  I'll mid or support.  
<no one calls mid>
me: Ok, I'll Kayle mid.
*first picks Kayle*
third pick: I'll top.
fourth: ok, I'll adc I guess
*second picks Heimer (ghost/tp heimer)*
*third picks Fiora*
everyone: wtf
me: uhh, where you playing heimer?
second: where ever you want me.
me: I guess I can support kayle, it's not great but it'll work.
<SUN GOES BLACK. SEAS BOIL.  CATS STOP PLOTTING TO KILL THEIR MASTERS>
fourth pick: fuck you guys, I called top
me: wtf
*fourth pick locks in revive/barrier Yi*
fifth: here we go again
me: does this shit happen a lot, this is my first ranked of this season.
fifth: I'm 1/6 :(
fourth: welcome to elo hell, faggot ass faggot
fourth: I'm a better top anyhow
me: what's the penalty for dodging
fourth: 30 minutes buttfucker faggot
me: I'm going to play Skyrim.  Enjoy.
*dodge*

Yah.  This is just what I remember.  Next time I need to screenshot that crap and send it to Riot.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on January 21, 2013, 11:07:19 AM
Yeah, that tends to happen a lot. You get lucky if someone else queue dodges.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on January 21, 2013, 11:52:39 AM
Apropos:

http://i.imgur.com/DhovsP3.jpg


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on January 21, 2013, 12:22:26 PM
Seriously would be behind that proposal.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: tazelbain on January 21, 2013, 02:15:51 PM
adc?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Goumindong on January 21, 2013, 02:40:16 PM
adc?

Attack Damage Carry

Also, you can do that manually by taking a screenshot and then sending it directly to riot player support


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: MediumHigh on January 23, 2013, 02:19:05 PM
5/2/5 malzphar, surrender after wukong disconnects. :ye_gods: Time to troll....


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Nightblade on January 23, 2013, 07:47:50 PM
Been trying to understand the new summoner's rift meta after playing dominion through an entire season. I keep seeing these guys running around buying nothing but potions and wards as their starting items -.-

Im reading about the game more than actually playing it. >.>


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on January 23, 2013, 08:03:20 PM
Base movement speed was raised by 25 for everyone and boots 1 now only provide a 25 bonus.  So, most people except ADCs just load up on regen items.

edit: Heh, 3-2 start to ranked.  3 wins being total crush jobs and one of the losses being a complete throw.  It's a bit depressing to lose a game where your Ezreal had some quality time alone with their nexus and instead chose to hit some creeps.  Also, the 6 item Xin Zhao didn't build a single fucking defense item (2 PDs.. wtf) yet still would dive into 5 of them to get 1 unimportant kill.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on January 24, 2013, 10:39:49 AM
Yeah, apparently AP Xin is just not my bag. I am either building it wrong or playing badly or both. Just getting run over with no sticking power even late game.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: K9 on January 27, 2013, 12:02:07 PM
According to LOLKing.com's charts (http://www.lolking.net/charts) Ezreal is the most popular hero in every category? This comes as a surprise to me.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: pxib on January 27, 2013, 01:08:02 PM
That Karma is the least popular hero, especially in games teams actually win, surprises me not at all. A little sad to see Heimerdinger next to her, though.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Goumindong on January 27, 2013, 10:01:21 PM
If you want to play something interesting. Support annie is now pretty legit. They lowered the CD on her shield to now be 10 seconds instead of 20 with an up time of 5 seconds instead of 10. It only costs 20 mana so its pretty easy to keep your stun up all the time always.

From stun up pre 6, w,q,e,e,e stun is back up in 18 seconds. From 6 r,w,q,e,w stun is back up in 9 seconds or 3.6 if you're still in combat.

You build tanky and a bit of mana sustain. Start with w (then level q or w) and charge it so that you start with a stun for fighting.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: MrHat on January 28, 2013, 12:22:06 AM
I play entirely too much ARAM.



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on January 30, 2013, 10:57:53 PM
32-0 ranked game.  :ye_gods:  Last 3 minutes were spent in their base just farming kills while we slowly got the turrets. 


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on January 31, 2013, 10:11:23 AM
So yeah, I'm currently on an 8-game ranked winning streak, which has seen my elo raise from the mid-600's to over 800. Most of that was Miss Fortune, which I have apparently gotten decent at. Not all of those games were good games for me, I just happened to have lucked out and gotten put on the not-shit teams. I thought yesterday's game would be a fucking disaster. It starts with two guys from the last queue (which got dodged) arguing about who would take mid. 4th pick didn't want to give it up to 3rd and promised to troll. Then Amumu was left unbanned and first pick took him with the intention of trading down. #4 traded for him and looked to be untrolling. We had Darius top, Kayle mid, me as MF bot and Amumu jungling when 5th pick comes up. 5th pick has been MUTE the entire team... and picks Riven with smite. Fuck me. FUCK ME. Yelling ensues.

Luckily Amumu turns from complete troll douche to team player in seconds, changes his smite to Exhaust and comes bot for support - against a Nunu/Caitlyn pair. I keep thinking we are going to be FUCKED. And then the douchey slient Riven gets a gank on Nunu and pushes Cait back and things just snowball from there. After the 3rd or 4th kill, the two guys who had been fighting over mid APOLOGIZED TO EACH OTHER. And we fucking rolled. Cait was underfarmed the whole game, couldn't get kills to save her life and generally sucked monkey balls. Most of my deaths were to a decent Nocturne who kept sneaking up on me and assfucking me 1v1 or a Malazhar who would ult me at which point I'd be fucked because I had no tenacity items. Finished 13/7/16 in ~35 minutes with a win. No reports were given somehow.

I'm waiting for the luck to turn and for me to start getting on the teams with the One-Armed Spergy Brigade.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Der Helm on January 31, 2013, 10:18:29 AM
I'm waiting for the luck to turn and for me to start getting on the teams with the One-Armed Spergy Brigade.
I have not been playing much ranked lately.  :grin:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: ezrast on February 01, 2013, 04:58:19 AM
Suppressions (Malz, Warwick, Urgot ult) aren't affected by tenacity or other CC reduction, only by QSS and CC-breaking abilities such as Remove Scurvy.

/pedant


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on February 01, 2013, 10:09:53 AM
I did not know that.  :oh_i_see:

Also, I've discovered I really fucking hate playing Ashe. I've dicked around with her a bit in Dominion just to learn her a bit and I played her in a regular blind game last night because the ranked queues were down. She's a very effective champ. She's just BORING. Boring as fuck. She really only has 1 active ability she uses regularly, her hawkshot is a useful utility but not really something active and her ult is really the only fun part of her makeup. Otherwise, her entire gameplay is getting in the right position and letting auto attack crit-stomp the opponents into paste or chase them down when they run. She's probably good to learn ADC on, but man, I have no desire to play her like EVER.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on February 01, 2013, 10:27:19 AM
Thresh is a sick fuck as support, really loving him. 

"Oh you have one cc? cute. Two cc? Not bad.  Three cc? yeah that's cool.  I have three cc moves, two that are double-use plus a shield that works as an escape for teammates"

I have to try hard to lose bot lane with him.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: MrHat on February 01, 2013, 11:53:55 AM
I did not know that.  :oh_i_see:

Also, I've discovered I really fucking hate playing Ashe. I've dicked around with her a bit in Dominion just to learn her a bit and I played her in a regular blind game last night because the ranked queues were down. She's a very effective champ. She's just BORING. Boring as fuck. She really only has 1 active ability she uses regularly, her hawkshot is a useful utility but not really something active and her ult is really the only fun part of her makeup. Otherwise, her entire gameplay is getting in the right position and letting auto attack crit-stomp the opponents into paste or chase them down when they run. She's probably good to learn ADC on, but man, I have no desire to play her like EVER.

Totally agree on this.  She's the best ADC teaching tool as you have to really master positioning and movement between firing with her.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Mosesandstick on February 01, 2013, 02:06:37 PM
You guys must really not enjoy kiting  :awesome_for_real:.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: MrHat on February 01, 2013, 02:31:01 PM
You guys must really not enjoy kiting  :awesome_for_real:.

She's the best ADC teaching tool as you have to really master positioning and movement between firing with her.

 :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on February 01, 2013, 02:36:00 PM
You guys must really not enjoy kiting  :awesome_for_real:.

I do not.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Mosesandstick on February 01, 2013, 02:37:07 PM
Whoops, I sure didn't grok that properly.

I'm the opposite, Ashe is my favourite carry because of how carefully she has to tread that line between safety and danger.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Setanta on February 01, 2013, 04:11:45 PM
I know what you are saying, she's a great learning tool and I often go back to her when I'm playing sloppy. The focus is on Ashe, not her kit. If there was one thing that Riot could do to help noobies it's create a simple "Ashe" version of each role and have them in a mini game to help to learn the game. Come to think of that, it's probably why she's in the tutorial.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Goumindong on February 01, 2013, 05:01:35 PM
Ashe can also be played hilariously as Kitelord. Stack CDR and damage. Volley on 2.4 second CD.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: luckton on February 01, 2013, 07:24:38 PM
Just went 7/0/4 with Yorick to force a 28min surrender.  This is after I've spent the last week or so trying to branch out and try some other champs like Viktor and Rengar, with most of those matches ending in losses.

I believe I've found my niche. :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: MrHat on February 01, 2013, 07:46:29 PM
Ashe can also be played hilariously as Kitelord. Stack CDR and damage. Volley on 2.4 second CD.

Volley cast time sucks though.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on February 04, 2013, 01:15:53 AM
My luck with teammates lately has been really astoundingly bad.  Teleport/exhaust mummy jungle: faceplants into enemy botlane twice in a row.  Repeatedly walks over wards that I tell him are there (hell, all fucking jungles are doing this).  Low HP fiddle ults into a full HP Olaf. Dies in one reckless swing.  Top and mid both lock mid characters, both counterpick themselves hard.   It's always 2 lanes getting absolutely smeared, making any efforts on my end just lead to me dying and my score going really awful.  

Even when I crush a botlane, my damn ADC can't last hit for crap and thus end result is a wash.

I'm going to blame the new system and not luck.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Goumindong on February 04, 2013, 02:02:56 AM
Volley cast time sucks though.

Not really. Once the arrows are away start moving again. Its animation is actually pretty decent


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on February 05, 2013, 12:23:17 AM
Could only stomach one game today due crap like 4th pick announcing "top Garen" after first pick had called top.  It took a long time to explain to him he'd need to pick another role. So, he picks WW.. again with no smite. 

Luckily the other team's botlane + jungle go 1/20, feeding most of those kills to Ezreal.  Their Cho got plastered as well.  I was playing Sona for the first time in like 6 months.  Bitch is squishy as hell, but she sure can lay down some poke.

These players are all noticeably worse than what I was getting in my placement matches.  Usually the midlaners are competent but everyone else.. fucking terrible.  And I can say that not really playing my best at the moment. 


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Setanta on February 05, 2013, 01:21:10 AM
I took Annie out for a run. Love the new models etc and for once I was last hitting everything. I'd forgotten how much fun it was when the enemy can see your stun up and a Tibbers bomb is ready to be unloaded. People just run (until you get cocky and they gang up on you).


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: luckton on February 05, 2013, 12:54:32 PM
Continuing to climb the leveling ladder, just broke my 4 game loosing streak with a draft pick match that had me 20/2/17 with Yorick, my best numbers yet.  It helped that the Shen I was against in top was apparently a complete newbie with him, as I've never been fed so nicely.  After picking up Manamune and Warmogs, I was essentially unkillable.  Throw Frozen Heart and Spirit Visage into the mix and I was taking on three champs at a time with my ult  :drill:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on February 05, 2013, 01:57:53 PM
Lunch game tanked me. I only needed one win to get into promotion matches... and I get the fucking circus of twats. Two idiots who are 4th and 5th pick respectively beg to have bot lane together, but the 1st pick wants ADC and he gets it. AS HE SHOULD. I take Mao jungle since I didn't feel like stomping anyone below me (3rd pick), 2nd pick Panth top and 4th pick decides he'll support while 5th will mid. So it goes Cait, Panth, Mao, Lulu and TF mid... because TF counters the Morgana mid that had already picked. Not too sure about that but whatever.

I help Panth to 2 kills top lane against Garen and the jungling Xin, and we do a nice 3-kill bot against this Xin, Taric and MF and I'm thinking we are doing well. Then it all goes pear-shaped. TF gets laned hard. Oh and he also can't seem to stay in his lane, running around trying to do ganks in other lanes and getting absolutely SHIT ON. Xin gets fed thanks to this, Morgana gets fed, bot lane turret goes down and I am SEVERELY underleveled because I'm constantly trying to either help TF get a gank or cover his goddamn lane when he's dead... AGAIN. Lulu is apparently helping Cait about as much, which is not at all and they are both dying. At one point Xin was 4 levels above me and just roaming around looking for my ass to fill with his hot lance of love. Thankfully, these twats surrendered.

So with the little time I had left for lunch, I took Vi out in a game of Dominion, which we lost because our Kennen didn't move out of the spawn until about 10 minutes into it. We STILL almost won because my Vi was just a goddamn WRECKING BALL OF DEATH. 12/4/7 with the highest total of captures in the game. I must learn how to use her in ranked.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Goumindong on February 05, 2013, 07:46:38 PM
Never gank morgana, its just not worth it. She will just black shield and walk out of the lane. If a lane against Morgana is losing, just have them stay in lane and farm. Ganking mid was your mistake.

TF counters morgana because morgana wants to shove the lane and then go gank side lanes. TF can shove just as hard and then either get tower damage (TF is one of the best tower pushers in the game) and then go gank side lanes. He is weak against fighting morgana since morg can easily black shield his stun card and he has no combat ult. But at the same time, he doesn't have to.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on February 05, 2013, 08:17:25 PM
I wasn't trying to gank her in lane. I was trying to help TF who was running all over the place trying to get ganks he had no business trying while his lane was feeding Morg easy farm and getting pushed. Like running headlong into a top lane with Garen and Xin that was pushed past the river bush or running into 3 bot.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on February 06, 2013, 01:06:33 PM
I have real trouble with games where people do not understand the whole team game concept.

"Having trouble in your lane? you're fucking problem, not mine."

If a lane is having issues they aren't going to magically start doing better.  Sometimes it's player skill and sometimes it's just hard counters but whatever the reason if one lane does terrible, you can't really expect anything you're doing to matter.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Bzalthek on February 06, 2013, 06:30:37 PM
Likewise, you have those who think winning their lane is the bottom line.  You know the ones; they don't do shit after the laning phase but when the team loses "I did my job! I won my lane!"  Like that is the entirety of the game. 



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on February 07, 2013, 10:15:23 AM
So Vi is a MOTHERFUCKER, ain't she? Tried her in a Dominion game a few days ago, then got to jungle with her last night. Hell yeah, she is a blast to play. Lots of damage, enough sustain to stay in a fight, a good closer and her jungle clear time is really fast after the first round. Thought for sure we were screwed when the Teemo top against Jayce went badly. That Teemo was just SO BAD, and not a good matchup for him anyway. But our Morgana switched lanes, we got mid and top turrets down before bot finally got their turrets down and when team fights came around, the combo of Vi and Alistar's CC with Draven, Teemo and Vi damage and Morgana snares and shielding and damage just battered them down. Final play came when we got a 2nd Baron and Jayce got to close trying to longshot the Baron kill. I ult dunked him, Ali pushed him back into the path of the damage and we steamrolled to an ace after that. Turrets went down, then the nexus, GAME OVER.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Phry on February 07, 2013, 11:56:50 AM
I was that morgana btw :p. teemo was truly dreadful.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on February 07, 2013, 12:32:17 PM
Lost my goddamn promotion match at lunch. Had to play support as Taric - had a Cait who was too aggressive against a Ashe/Cho pairing in bot, a Lee Sin mid who couldn't handle a Morgana AT ALL and a Khazix who jumped AWAY from two turrets into a 3v1 IN OUR BASE and died. Not much I could fucking do with that arrangement. I did go 2/7/11 I think but it was a bad game. Nothing like getting dogpiled 4v1 trying to protect a turret in our spawn, then watching their entire team BYPASS the first line of nexus turrets to kill people DIRECTLY UNDER the last two nexus turrets, then proceed to destroy the two nexus turrets before being killed. BOTH OF THEM. Seriously, our nexus turrets were killed before our outer ring of turrets. HOW DOES THAT EVEN HAPPEN? Oh right, shitty team.


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Post by: Goumindong on February 07, 2013, 05:07:25 PM
It can't. Turrets are immune to damage if the structure ahead of them are alive. They had to have had an inhibitor.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: MediumHigh on February 10, 2013, 02:41:24 AM
I think when you try to play seriously without pissing anyone off, your just going to get a bad team and lose anyway.

So lets start the game at champ select. I pick elisa jungle  :drill:

Bot is renken and talon.

Renken and Talon.

Top is last minute teemo.

Mid is ahri.

I already know its trolol feeder bot lane is coming. I've already have it in my head to get top and mid mighty fed, and go bottom nice and fat off of the other lane kills. By the way this troll lane is vs an ashe and blitz. Normal que hue, hue. So the beginning of the game goes as I suspect it will. Bot lane feeds first blood. I give teemo a kill on jarven. Than ahri a kill on teemo. Than a kill on oalf top and jarven. Basically going 4:1:2 in less than 8 minutes. Not bad. Than I go bot help them score a double at the enemy tower. Perfect. Than the reneken decides to push top. Reneken who silently went bottom decides that his under leveled, under farmed, ass needs to go top lane. Now that jarven is 0/2 and two levels above him he'll manage right? Except now talon feeds. And feeds. And feeds. And feeds. Teemo goes bottom and now he feeds. And feeds, and feeds. Feeling very annoyed, ahri starts dying in the process of going bottom. It quickly becomes apparent that none of them are even medicore players considering their elo and my only hope is that they have enough braincells between the 4 of them to follow pings and maybe, just maybe, priotize objectives.

I was wrong. So I call a surrender. Which they stubbornly decline. I'm a 10/4 elisa I can carry them right? Well no and even if I could, which I really couldn't, I don't want to. Why spend 50 minutes on a game that should have ended in 30? Because your bad and you herp derp simple things like being in the vicinity of team fights? Yeah no thanks. So I call a second surrender. Realizing that my teams only destiny is to literally flop like fishes for the enemy team. I mean if your BAD at least be bad in the "I'm too aggressive area" so I can actually have fun. Don't expect me to slowly watch you fail (as in being in the exact opposite side of the map doing nothing) to defend towers, dragon, baron, inhibitors, as you play like CLG with downsyndrome. So thankfully my laptop over heats and I mercifully dc. When I dc'ed there was a 3 kill deficit between our teams. When I cam back their lead extended to 15 kills. I was gone for 5 minutes. I call surrender. Still all no.

 :why_so_serious:

Thankfully the other team ended it with a baron push I lacklusterly defended. I wanted to tell them thank you, but global chat was disabled.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Ashamanchill on February 10, 2013, 05:41:59 AM
So, I'm on such a weird winning streak right now, that I am fucking afraid to log into the game because I don't want to see the players it assigns me now. Usually, when I reach this point, I get someone letting their dog play for and ADC, a cactus who has just barely achieved sentience mid, and bot who is programmed to feed and spout out insults to everyone else on the team top. While my opponents appear to be Moscow 5 who are slumming it for a few games in normals, and each member has just been told that their girlfriends or significant other, has just broken up with them, to go out with ME.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Der Helm on February 10, 2013, 08:53:24 AM
While my opponents appear to be Moscow 5 who are slumming it for a few games in normals, and each member has just been told that their girlfriends or significant other, has just broken up with them, to go out with ME.
So this is what's happening to me.  :ye_gods:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on February 10, 2013, 09:28:15 AM
So far in ranked:

7-2 with Taric
5-9 with everyone else

Outrageous.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on February 10, 2013, 04:04:24 PM
Since they added the league system in, the quality in teammates at the basement level ELO I sit has been wildly inconsistent. Two or three game win streak followed by abject fail train on the facerolling express. Lost 3 out of 4 once I hit promotion series the first time, and I just got back to the promotion series last night. I'm deatlhy afraid of what mongoloid rejects they'll stick me with now. I had to mute a Threash last night for continuing to douchetalk me and our Lux when our team was winning and really wasn't in much danger of losing most of the game.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Bzalthek on February 10, 2013, 04:08:29 PM
From the streams lately it seems people overall try to play better in games.  (Overall!) Until you get to a series.  Then it's troll time.  Fuck your promotion!


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on February 10, 2013, 04:57:44 PM
One game down, one more out of two to win. My unbeaten streak with Miss Fortune continues.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on February 10, 2013, 06:06:38 PM
I spectate your games at times.  The item builds are just fucking out there.  Yours usually make sense, but your elo has some love for some really strange shit.   I think it's partially due to the low farm. 

You had some Nunu in your game last night that defied logic.  I'm sorry you got that guy.  I don't think I saw him blood boil you once.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on February 10, 2013, 08:11:18 PM
Was that the game where I was Cait? I think he boiled me once or twice.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: MediumHigh on February 11, 2013, 02:01:07 AM
I suspect the easiest way to get elo fast is to play ADC. Everyone wants to go top, mid, or jungle and not sucking ass at bottom lane generally saves your team from losing a medicore game.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on February 11, 2013, 08:56:58 AM
Provided you play the right champ, your support barely has to be conscious.  Although, that can be the part that's out of your control.  Lanes do snowball, and the worse player can win provided they get a few free kills.

At my ELO, it just seems to be whatever lane crushes the hardest, the fastest, and in the most demoralizing fashion. A Garen that stomps his lane is almost an autowin, unless your team is filled with idiots.   Generally, one team gets really outpicked and one side ends up with a comp that needs the stars to align to win.  Two lanes lose.  The first few teamfights go bad.  GG.  Everyone blames the jungle and support.

My ELO is still really weird.   The quality I'm getting in lanes has been varying wildly.  The solo lanes are awfully tough for me, even if they build like idiots.  I wasn't against the Wukong in my current match, but the guy was top and built two different legendary jungle items.  Still, he wrecked hard in team fights, because he's Wukong and people can't position for shit.   

I have to say: I love playing Taric, but you sure can become fucking useless at times.  If you're losing, you're just going to die a lot (this is support in general).  Late game?  You're just going to die a lot.  Make sure your auras are up and you exhaust the right person.  Somehow idiots still dive you like crazy. 


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on February 11, 2013, 09:02:19 AM
I've stopped caring about solo ranked, without any real time team coordination it's much more like rolling the dice than anything.  Sure you can carry to 'some' extent but if you got a bad roll on your teammates then it's still a loss.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Der Helm on February 11, 2013, 09:37:00 AM
I've stopped caring about solo ranked, without any real time team coordination it's much more like rolling the dice than anything.  Sure you can carry to 'some' extent but if you got a bad roll on your teammates then it's still a loss.
Does it still count for solo ranked if you duo with someone ?


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on February 11, 2013, 09:45:53 AM
It does and sometimes that will increase your chances but the randomness of it is just too much for me.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on February 11, 2013, 09:46:47 AM
At least then you both can have fun blaming the fuckhead who loses you the game. Or if it's one of you, you can mercilessly remind him of it over and over again.

YAY! PROMOTION!

Thought I was dead when I had a shitty game as Alistar support, but thanks to Phry, I got a good game as Mao that put me over the top. Thought it would go horribly wrong when I die to a coordinated blue invasion but apparently that was the last bit of coordination the opposing team could do. They absolutely could not win team fights. Their Akali was the only competent one on the team against our mediocre Mordekaiser mid. Their Olaf died like 3 times in the first 10 minutes AND lost his tower top to me and a Renekton that just raped face all game. Mid fell next even though our Morde was losing the lane because we got three pressing the tower at once and tore it down. It all snowballed from there.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on February 11, 2013, 11:49:45 PM
I love getting stuck with ADC because another guy called support, and then losing horribly because I've honestly never seen a more clueless support player since I've started ranked.  FFS.   THEY PICKED CLARITY.  ON SORAKA.   :argh:

Cait/Soraka v. Sivir/Sona.  She fought constantly in a lane you really can't fight in.  She took tons of free damage. Never warded.  Rushed a hextec revolver and started with a dorans. Last hit minions with starfall.  I had to grind my teeth to keep from screaming at my monitor.

Next game, I swear we would have lost if it wasn't a 4v5 from the start.  Our botlane crushed on our own pretty much, but the Vayne would have been useless late as she was pretty terrible.  Just took advantage of no jungle pressure and a support Malz (which kinda works early).  I think we were only up a handful of kills at the surrender, but their turrets were getting blown to hell.

edit:

Heh, went 10/5/14 on Swain after not playing him for like almost a year.  New itemization works pretty well for him, I'd say.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on February 14, 2013, 10:13:24 AM
Two epic games of completely opposite proportions.

Go into ranked solo, get top, pick Renekton. Haven't played him much at all and probably shouldn't have. GET ROLLED. Figure out 20 minutes into the game that, no, his dash W ability does not actually stun people unless you hit your W first. Luckily, it didn't matter because it had to be the worst team I've ever been on. We were down 4 - 18 in the first 10 minutes. By the time 20 minutes rolled around (and of course we voted NOT to surrender), we are at some obscene level of getting facerolled and are so underleveled to the man that people are just EVAPORATING in team fights including me. I fucked it up hard, but I was not the only one. Not one person on that team could point to their own performance and say "I did OK." Lost the game at just under 23 minutes. One of the worst team ass poundings I've ever taken.

I decide I'll play one more before taking the dogs out for the night. It's only like 9:10 or something. Confusion erupts in the chat room and it may have been my fault. I asked for top, 1st pick takes top. Ask for ADC, 2nd pick takes Kha'zix and I swear he said he would be ADC as Kha. Yes, I've actually seen someone try that before. I don't dodge, but decide to take Mao jungling. Apparently, Kha'zix was going to support. 3rd pick takes Taric. Fifth pick takes Galio.  :ye_gods: Now we have 3 nominal tanks, and no ranged ADC. This is going to be BAD. We are up against a Garen, Rengar (j), Anivia, Ashe and I forgot who the support was. Within 2 minutes, Ashe has scored a double kill. Towers get pushed. We can't win a team fight. I do get 2 early ganks on Anivia and Phry (who I had on Skype spectating the game) informs me that Ashe has 10 CS. I look and sure enough - she's got 10 CS. This is AFTER a double kill where the lane was hers and she pushed to turret. Slowly but surely, our insane level of tankiness starts to tell. It takes our whole fucking team to kill Garen who is snowballing hard but team fights last forever because myself and Taric (who was terrible) and Galio are so hard to kill. Zed is snowballing into a facemelter. Ashe can't position herself for shit, is underleveled most of the game, gets 2 infinity edges for no reason and gets caught out by my root all too many times.

70 minutes, 3 Barons and 3 aces later and we win. At level 18, the amount of crazy ass damage absorption ability we had was insane. It got so bad, I sold a tanky item to get some more damage (iceborn gauntlet). So long as they didn't focus Zed, we were unstoppable. As soon as I saw Ashe or Anivia in range of my root, it was ROOT, SLAM, ULT. If she didn't run away, she was dead. It was an epic game of bad playing and suboptimal team comps.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on February 15, 2013, 12:18:15 AM
Wow, it saved the really choice dickheads until my promotion games.  I think I reported 5 players in two games.  :|

It's funny when you're the guy who's promotion is going down in flames, and you're having to remind your psychotic team that it's "just a game".


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on February 15, 2013, 08:00:29 AM
I can live with people getting upset when losing a ranked game.  At least it is ranked.  It is the closest thing to a LoL game that "matters" most people will ever play.  I mean, there are limits, but I can deal with some outward frustration.  What really gets me is when some guy does this in unranked.  Hell, I had a guy on my team going nuts last night in an ARAM because we were losing. 


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on February 15, 2013, 09:48:56 AM
Wow, it saved the really choice dickheads until my promotion games.  I think I reported 5 players in two games.  :|

That seemed to be my experience with most of my promotion games as well. I lost my first series to just some of the most horrible teams imaginable.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on February 15, 2013, 10:10:26 AM
Well, the team comps weren't great either.  

First team had no damage and a Galio that died 7 times in lane to Kayle.  Cho also managed to die to Kayle a lot ganking. Team was really beefy but did no damage.  Nunu/Cait is a tank shredder.

Second team was messed up when my client glitched out during champ select and it randomed me Sion as well as showing 2 bans for Malphite. The mid said he would play Sion.  Our top picks Poppy and everyone gives him shit.  Now, everyone's bitchy before the game even starts.  Despite that, the early game is OK and we hang with them for a lot of it.  However, Sion loses lane badly.  The jungler is awful and goes to pieces when his red is stolen. The top lane Poppy does what Poppy does and just gets a bunch of solo kills and does nothing in team fights.   Our Caitlyn does nothing but complain about her luck inbetween insults for everyone. The team is screaming at each other the entire game, using language that might make Haemish cringe.  When they run out of shit to say to each other, they say shit to my internet connection.

Just miserable.  I really wish it'd just auto-dodge instead of randoming. Or they could just not give out an outloss on promotion dodges.  A high requeue penalty would be enough.   



Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on February 15, 2013, 10:36:02 AM
I swear half of the problem with League of Legends is they have no good way to handle disconnects or queue dodges. The other half being the shitsipping chucklefucks playing the game.

I still think there ought to be a bot that takes over for a DC. Sure, he won't be better than a skilled player. But I've had games where all it would require was a warm body autoattacking and/or taking damage for us to win a 4v5. And I've had some games where that #5 guy is so worthless, the team does better without him.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Kail on February 15, 2013, 05:27:21 PM
I can live with people getting upset when losing a ranked game.  At least it is ranked.  It is the closest thing to a LoL game that "matters" most people will ever play.  I mean, there are limits, but I can deal with some outward frustration.  What really gets me is when some guy does this in unranked.  Hell, I had a guy on my team going nuts last night in an ARAM because we were losing. 

As someone chronically hooked on co-op v. AI matches, yeah, this.  Like 99% of the games are totally laid back affairs where you just roll around and punch shit with your team.  And then you get that 1% where some guy thinks he's John Connor or something and starts flipping his shit every time something goes wrong.  I had a game, I think it was maybe two weeks ago, where our mid was an Annie, and she spent the entire game screaming at our jungler for everything, not ganking mid, not participating in teamfights, stealing kills, not saving her when she died, etc. etc.  Literally like twenty straight minutes of her ranting into space.  I think by the end of it, everyone was something like 10/2 or 15/2 except Annie who was like 3/8.  It was ludicrous.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Der Helm on February 15, 2013, 06:50:31 PM
hooked on co-op v. AI matches
:ye_gods:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Bzalthek on February 16, 2013, 05:00:43 AM
Don't judge!  I'm the same way.  Well I wouldn't say hooked but I'd rather play a quick AI game.  I'm really pretty bad, and while that usually doesn't concern me in a pvp game, when you have 4 other people who will be detrimentally affected by my shit play, I'd rather watch streams.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on February 18, 2013, 06:44:32 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/EGOSjal.jpg)

 :mob:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Der Helm on February 18, 2013, 07:39:00 PM
Hah! Just finished my last placement match. Silver 5.

See you soon, one way or the other.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on February 18, 2013, 09:09:49 PM
Sometimes, I really wonder why I keep playing this fucking game.

Get first pick in the queue, go ADC since Malphite got banned. Shen was left unbanned so I grabbed him and agreed to trade with last pick. He'd Shen top and I'd ADC. All good. The rest of the players pick lanes and roles except 4th pick, who finally says he's support. He grabs Thresh.

He then proceeds to inform us all that he's going to invade their red and if we don't, he'll feed. THE FUCK? Well, insane-O's plan works out, sort of as we grab the red, first blood and I think another kill or two. I finally make it bot and start trying to farm and he comes up behind me BALLS TO THE WALL RRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGHGHGHGHGHGH berzerker style, just going crazy ass buck wild aggressive to try to kill the Graves and Sona combo against us. Now, that's a really dangerous combo to try to push on, but it seems to be working. I even get a double kill when Kha'zix comes to gank and Shen ults down from top to help. So maybe this won't be so bad. However, then Thresh informs me he'll support top because I don't know how to play the game. Apparently, he plays the game to "kill a man not farm." From then on, there's no fucking telling where he'll be but it'll usually be right down the other team's throat like he's Olaf or Trynd or something. Laning is just a fucking afterthought for most of us because we're constantly having to have whacked out team fights. At 16 minutes, the kill score was 18 - 16 in our favor. So the enemy team finally figures this shit out and starts acting like a team, actively hunting us out in 4's and 5's. Idiot Jax then makes a stupid remark about Thresh saying that he's trolling and "jewing" him by kill-stealing.

Shen is Jewish, or so he says.

From then on, it's only a matter of time. Thresh insists on fighting any time he sees ANYONE on the other team, whether it's a good idea or not. I left him to die at one point because it was Khazix and Sona vs. me and him near one of their turrets. Fuck him, I ain't dying for that shit when there was nothing to be gained. According to him and Shen, that makes me bad at the game.

I want a superpower that lets me give someone the crotchrot through sheer mental will.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Margalis on February 18, 2013, 09:56:38 PM
Well I made gold 5, going 3-2 in my promotion matches. Was quite a roller coaster.

Game 1: Enemy team is 5 tanky guys, I'm Thresh, they are winning early but eventually our damage outscales their defense. Pretty standard game. Win.

Game 2: Our team leader pick Blitz then says he doesn't play Blitz. I offer to trade since I do play Blitz but he doesn't say who he wants until about 5 seconds left on timer, then names a champ I don't own. I pick a top, then the other people on our team say they don't play any of the remaining roles, so basically every person is playing a role they are bad at. Blitz misses every single hook the entire game, at least outside of laning phase, including against people standing perfectly still, so it's basically a 4 v 5 game. Lose.

Game 3: I am Nami, with Graves bot. We sit in the bottom bush and when their support Zyra shows up I bubble her and we kill her. Then we kill their Cait while Zyra is in base. Then we kill both of them again. Graves has a Bloodthirster in less than 8 minutes and I have a Chalice in that time. I end up going 3/1/32. We got a kill bottom lane literally once a minute for the first 10 minutes or so and took their tower at the 5 minute mark. Win.

Game 4: Guy goes Heimer mid then goes AFK in first 10 minutes. Loss.

Game 5: Person on their team picks AD Cass then immediately AFKs. Win.

So out of 5 games basically only 2 were legit matches and only one of those wasn't a total stomp.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Vaiti on February 21, 2013, 11:00:59 AM
When is the FoTM tanky meta going away? I'm getting bored with it.

(http://i.imgur.com/EaBrcUD.jpg)

I wanted to jungle with Shaco but the entire team started freaking out about Shaco jungle in ranked being horrible. Go tanky or take your ball and go home seems to be the only way people are willing to play.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on February 21, 2013, 11:04:24 AM
Eh, if you can jungle Shaco, I'm sure it'd be a fucking terror in Bronze V.

That's a pretty awful AP Kayle build.  Jesus.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Vaiti on February 21, 2013, 11:08:13 AM
Yi flamed the entire time and would CHASE me running away from him killing himself with each hit while I would barely have a dent in me. Was fairly laughable.
I'm never leaving bronze. Bronze for life.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on February 21, 2013, 11:19:15 AM
Season 3 really does appear to be the year of the tank. If your team has +1 tank on the other team, you will probably win unless your ADC and APC are just fucking toolsheds.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on February 21, 2013, 11:21:09 AM
Yi flamed the entire time and would CHASE me running away from him killing himself with each hit while I would barely have a dent in me. Was fairly laughable.
I'm never leaving bronze. Bronze for life.

I don't think I ever will either.  Getting in 1-2 games per day on average (and skipping days..) doesn't lead to improvement, especially when you don't care.

Plus, I can't seem to win or lose more than 2 in a row.

And yah, those guys needed a last whisper or two. A burst AP carry might have helped as well.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on February 21, 2013, 11:24:33 AM
That Twitch needed to build some fucking AP for one thing. Since the Twitch revamp, he is not an attack speed/crit monster, he's all about poison. They should have built him like AP Teemo. Building that Kayle as a hyrbid pretty much ruined any chance she could do worth a damn against those tanks, and I'm sure Talon ate her lunch since she had no armor resists to speak of. Jarvan seems to have gotten a boost from S3, but I still fucking hate that character.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Rasix on February 21, 2013, 11:31:59 AM
AP Twitch.. noooo.  He's still a hyper carry.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: HaemishM on February 21, 2013, 11:45:04 AM
Holy shit, apparently I didn't look too closely at Twitch's AP scaling since the changes. My bad, he's so totally not AP at all.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: luckton on February 22, 2013, 06:42:35 AM
Dinged 25.  I'm now comfortable enough in solo Q to just say that I'll play anything but Support.  Doing this in the last few games and being flexible seems to be resulting in very positive results.  Went ADC with Tristana and had Alistar as my Support.  The slamming and bamming of Alistar allowed me perfect rocket jumps all over Sona, and it shut them down pretty damn quick.

Next match allowed me to play Top with Yorick, and somehow I overcame the meta with ghoul-punching Vlad into submission.

Third match had me going Mid with Viktor, and I had a pretty pretty bad early game against Syndra, but in the end a 500 AP boosted Death Ray + ult cleaned house of the enemy team with a well placed stun trap and ally support.  The other team was so mad over it we were accused of cheating and exploiting bugs or some shit.  Apparently Viktor doesn't get that much play?  I told them it's called a Death Ray; it fucking kills things.  Deal with it  :awesome_for_real:

One of these days I might learn Support....one of these days  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on February 22, 2013, 07:38:55 AM
I'm surprised how little Morgana I see lately. I've tried picking her back up since she's "not worth banning" and she still seems very strong.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Goumindong on February 22, 2013, 06:45:11 PM
Top Yorick is not outside the meta.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: luckton on February 22, 2013, 06:49:45 PM
Overcoming Vlad in top apparently is, according to most champ counter sites.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Malakili on February 22, 2013, 07:06:21 PM
I'm surprised how little Morgana I see lately. I've tried picking her back up since she's "not worth banning" and she still seems very strong.

She doesn't scale particularly well into the late game compared to some other AP mid choices.


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Goumindong on February 22, 2013, 08:30:50 PM
Overcoming Vlad in top apparently is, according to most champ counter sites.

No. Vlad is easy to counter top and yorick counters fucking everyone(including vlad)


Title: Re: LoL Stories, Share your good and bad here.
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on February 22, 2013, 08:55:57 PM