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Reply #8540 on: July 28, 2011, 10:55:12 AM

That ability seems to be conscious of environment actually. You pull out oil tanks in industrial areas, but when running around in more natural setting, it's rocks why so serious?

For some reason this makes me happy to hear, consistently grabbing the same oil tank would drive me nuts. The graphic still seems a bit large from the game play videos from comic con.
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Reply #8541 on: July 28, 2011, 11:15:17 AM

Found it, that description helped me find it.  I remember this video but I don't think I ever watched it all the way through:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM8GMXae2XM#t=7m

Seems like the time won't work when the video is embedded like this, skip to 7 minutes.

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Reply #8542 on: July 28, 2011, 11:34:45 AM

I saw a video where the tank came out of a wooded hillside. Maybe it was an industrial dump site, lots of pollution issues with the Republic. Or maybe that's why they're fighting the polluting Empire. (It was a very early video, one of the first I'd seen probably a year ago at least, so probably things have changed?).

Catching up on dev tracker, companion kits are out for sure: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=7679280#edit7679280
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Reply #8543 on: July 28, 2011, 11:50:32 AM

What's a companion kit? Like gear?

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Reply #8544 on: July 28, 2011, 11:53:53 AM

What's a companion kit? Like gear?

Supposed to be like gear sets you could get for your crew to do different things, like a DPS set, heal set, nunchuk set, etc.

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Reply #8545 on: July 28, 2011, 11:54:07 AM

Well, it's nothing now :) They were going to have kits you assign your companions, medic kit, grenade kit, etc, that defined their roles. Looks like they've locked down the roles but are boosting the customization, via DA-style AI, though James got shut down when he started to talk about it a couple times.

I think I found our Republic chapter:

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THE ROUGES GUILD
The treaty is broken my republic brothers we must stand together against the sith empire, we are the rouges,i am beadl the jedi knight, (its a strange name i know) but i need men and women for my army and squad one,lucky jedi will be my apprentice and 4 including my apprentice will be in my squad the 501st. The 501st will consist of me my apprentice jedi knight, a trooper, a smuggler and a jedi consular. I need to find a good smuggler for "special" missions.
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I had one of the biggest guilds in star wars galaxies, it was one off the most exclusive also. But star wars galaxies is closing down for the old republic, and i received a message from Lucas and they trusted me with the release date of star wars the old republic, only members of my guild will have this information, i want to rebuild my guild from star wars galaxies and move it into the old republic, all i need is members.
I have the release date posted in the private forum which you cant see unless your a member.
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Reply #8546 on: July 28, 2011, 11:59:17 AM

DA style AI meaning I pick a role for them? Or DA style AI when I have to customize all their spells and tactics into different micromanages so they stop acting like coked up children.

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Reply #8547 on: July 28, 2011, 12:01:19 PM

Hopefully both, I'd like to be able to get granular with their tactics.

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Reply #8548 on: July 28, 2011, 12:13:09 PM

Hopefully both, I'd like to be able to get granular with their tactics.

FFXII Gambit system?  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Reply #8549 on: July 28, 2011, 12:14:26 PM

DA style AI meaning I pick a role for them? Or DA style AI when I have to customize all their spells and tactics into different micromanages so they stop acting like coked up children.

Speaking of drugs, is there consumption in SWTOR? I am talking something that would have crazy effects on your character, much like WoW did with booze.

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Reply #8550 on: July 28, 2011, 12:16:39 PM


The AI will likely have generic priorities that may or may not mesh will with your build.  Being able to tailor that some will go a long ways.

And yes, if I'm (finally) remembering correctly, the gambit system is pretty close to the DA system.  Both unlock/open up a little differently.  Hopefully, it's opened up fully from the start and you don't have to wait for X levels to have all of your tactics set.  But I imagine it would be tied to levels, as more progression can only make the system more awesome.  awesome, for real

edit: NM, was confusing my FFs.

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Reply #8551 on: July 28, 2011, 12:51:48 PM

God, that beadl guy is just embarassing. Do we have to let people like that play on the same server as us?
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Reply #8552 on: July 28, 2011, 01:03:16 PM

I don't think there's any info on the AI other than James tripping up and mentioning it a couple times before being shushed. But it will be refreshing to have something a bit more in-depth than Attack/Stay/Follow and Aggressive/Defensive/Passive. Which is what they'll probably end up shipping with :)
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Reply #8553 on: July 28, 2011, 01:05:26 PM

I don't think there's any info on the AI other than James tripping up and mentioning it a couple times before being shushed. But it will be refreshing to have something a bit more in-depth than Attack/Stay/Follow and Aggressive/Defensive/Passive. Which is what they'll probably end up shipping with :)
Why should the AI be more advanced than the PI?

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Reply #8554 on: July 28, 2011, 01:11:22 PM

I don't think there's any info on the AI other than James tripping up and mentioning it a couple times before being shushed. But it will be refreshing to have something a bit more in-depth than Attack/Stay/Follow and Aggressive/Defensive/Passive. Which is what they'll probably end up shipping with :)
Why should the AI be more advanced than the PI?
Why can't we have both?

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Reply #8555 on: July 28, 2011, 01:11:38 PM


Why should the AI be more advanced than the PI?

It can't possibly be worse than that beadl guy.

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Reply #8556 on: July 28, 2011, 01:23:31 PM

I don't think there's any info on the AI other than James tripping up and mentioning it a couple times before being shushed. But it will be refreshing to have something a bit more in-depth than Attack/Stay/Follow and Aggressive/Defensive/Passive. Which is what they'll probably end up shipping with :)
Why should the AI be more advanced than the PI?
Why can't we have both?

PI = player intelligence, you might need to work on your FI.

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Reply #8557 on: July 28, 2011, 01:29:43 PM

Found it, that description helped me find it.  I remember this video but I don't think I ever watched it all the way through:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM8GMXae2XM#t=7m

Seems like the time won't work when the video is embedded like this, skip to 7 minutes.

That trooper laying down suppressing fire everywhere but at the enemies had me cringe.

I have never played WoW.
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Reply #8558 on: July 28, 2011, 01:38:37 PM

Yeah what is up with that suppressive fire? Reminds me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKTqHsMqkb0

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Reply #8559 on: July 28, 2011, 01:44:23 PM

Found it, that description helped me find it.  I remember this video but I don't think I ever watched it all the way through:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM8GMXae2XM#t=7m

Seems like the time won't work when the video is embedded like this, skip to 7 minutes.

That trooper laying down suppressing fire everywhere but at the enemies had me cringe.

Its just true to the movies! When is the last time a trooper actually hit something?
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Reply #8560 on: July 28, 2011, 02:10:19 PM

Yeah what is up with that suppressive fire?
Suppressive fire stops the targetted enemy from using abilities for a couple seconds. Think of it as a ranged stun and interrupt. However they were using a different ability in that clip, which was a ranged AE attack. You can see the tooltip.
« Last Edit: July 28, 2011, 02:12:17 PM by sam, an eggplant »
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Reply #8561 on: July 28, 2011, 02:23:55 PM

4.  is WUA playing?

Nah. The only new MMO I've tried for the first time in the last ten years has been WoW, and only because literally every single person I played games with was playing it.

If you're right this will be interesting since those classes are in order:

1) ranged tank
2) melee dps/melee tank
3) healing/ranged dps
4) ranged dps/stealth

Which means we'd see a game where tanks are everywhere (on one side at least)

All specced DPS and bitching that there are no tanks. They could give every class in the game a tank spec and I doubt it would make a difference, based on my WoW experiences.

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Reply #8562 on: July 28, 2011, 03:28:50 PM

I don't think there's any info on the AI other than James tripping up and mentioning it a couple times before being shushed. But it will be refreshing to have something a bit more in-depth than Attack/Stay/Follow and Aggressive/Defensive/Passive. Which is what they'll probably end up shipping with :)
Why should the AI be more advanced than the PI?
Why can't we have both?

PI = player intelligence, you might need to work on your FI.

Not what I meant.  I meant give us a choice of two systems.
 A) Old hat MMO style of Attack/Follow/Stay||| Aggressive/Defensive/Passive
 B) New detailed style where we can tailor the AI to our desire a la Gambit system.

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Reply #8563 on: July 28, 2011, 03:52:42 PM

I'd love DA2 tactics system adapted to companions.                                           
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Reply #8564 on: July 28, 2011, 04:21:13 PM

I'd love DA2 tactics system adapted to companions.                                           

I'd love it as long as someone made a detailed list of how to program each one so I don't have to think about the best possible AI setting for mine.

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Reply #8565 on: July 28, 2011, 04:22:32 PM

I'd love DA2 tactics system adapted to companions.                                           

I'd love it as long as someone made a detailed list of how to program each one so I don't have to think about the best possible AI setting for mine.

Yeah, it'll be more important too, since its not pausable.  I always pause like crazy in combat in Bioware games to issue orders.
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Reply #8566 on: July 28, 2011, 04:23:48 PM

I'd love DA2 tactics system adapted to companions.                                           

I'd love it as long as someone made a detailed list of how to program each one so I don't have to think about the best possible AI setting for mine.

A game this big and this PvE focused?  Not a problem, the theorycrafters are already going.

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Reply #8567 on: July 28, 2011, 05:00:59 PM

Nah. The only new MMO I've tried for the first time in the last ten years has been WoW, and only because literally every single person I played games with was playing it.
So...WUA will be playing TOR?  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?
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Reply #8568 on: July 28, 2011, 06:22:52 PM

For what it's worth, I'll probably end up being a tanky Trooper, since it will be Fordel and his amazing Scoundrel friends at release.  why so serious?

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Reply #8569 on: July 28, 2011, 06:53:06 PM

All specced DPS and bitching that there are no tanks. They could give every class in the game a tank spec and I doubt it would make a difference, based on my WoW experiences.

Aren't paladins tanks? I thought that was one of the most popular classes .. or did they change enough with the specializations that you can have a weak tank with high dps and that's what everyone does? (When WoW launched I remember people complaining that pali's had good DPS and good tank ability with the self heal - so why play anything else?).

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Reply #8570 on: July 28, 2011, 06:57:55 PM

All specced DPS and bitching that there are no tanks. They could give every class in the game a tank spec and I doubt it would make a difference, based on my WoW experiences.
Aren't paladins tanks? I thought that was one of the most popular classes

That was his point really.  That they can be a tank doesn't matter when nobody wants to be a tank.
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Reply #8571 on: July 28, 2011, 07:08:31 PM

I just went to Gamestop's site to see when the release date would be, and saw a listing for the Collector's Edition WITH BONUS!

Take a guess at how much it is before you click the link below. Go on. Take a guess.

http://www.gamestop.com/pc/games/star-wars-the-old-republic-online-collectors-edition/92635

Edit: Sorry. I've been busy lately and haven't been reading every single page. I should have known it wouldn't be news. Just shocked the shit out of me is all.

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Reply #8572 on: July 28, 2011, 07:10:22 PM

I'm getting sick of this Rip Van Winkle shit.  If you think you know something new about SWTOR, we knew it 5 pages ago.


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Reply #8573 on: July 28, 2011, 07:11:17 PM

Take a guess at how much it is before you click the link below. Go on. Take a guess.

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Reply #8574 on: July 28, 2011, 07:16:04 PM

For what it's worth, I'll probably end up being a tanky Trooper, since it will be Fordel and his amazing Scoundrel friends at release.  why so serious?

We should definitely consider changing the guild name to that. I might consider shooting people with healing bullets. Maybe.

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