SWTOR

[Jayce]

I haven't really been following this too closely, but I also havent' seen the announcment posted here:

   It’s a very exciting time at BioWare as today we are announcing one of the most anticipated Massive Multiplayer Role Playing Games (MMORPG), Star Wars™: The Old Republic™.

http://www.swtor.com/


Edit: damn, it was buried in the other thread.  Den me!
edit: ok don't den me.  Also link fixed thanks to EWSpider

[LC]

Needs a new thread anyway.

[Brogarn]

Needs a new thread anyway.

I kind of thought the same.

[fatboy]

agreed.

wish I could go to the link, but alas, I am at work   

[EWSpider]

That link didn't work for me, try this one:

http://www.swtor.com/

The game looks really bland and uninteresting from what I've seen so far, but I'm more interested in whether or not they used the Hero Engine and how that's working out for them.

[Venkman]

Here's what we know so far:

1) No combat details
2) No class progression details beyond it being personal story arcs at first/for awhile (implication is AoC Tortage)
3) NPC henchmen are in. You can socialize with them in various forms including furry stuff romance.
4) Graphics are way early but not inspiring. Example 1. Example 2.
5) No idea on schedule.
6) No idea on beta.

[Slyfeind]

I don't know what a "story-based MMO" entails, but that doesn't sound very fun.

[Soln]

from Darn's good list and the opinions in the other thread it sounds very very GW-like.  Which is very surprising and disappointing.

This is EA and they are not big on risk.  But they could've given WoW a run for its money if was a full MMO, not just a hub&spoke online story board.

But wait and see. 

[Mrbloodworth]

I don't know what a "story-based MMO" entails, but that doesn't sound very fun.

Unless its voiced over, it means more text to skip and hit "Accept".

[Goreschach]

I don't know what a "story-based MMO" entails, but that doesn't sound very fun.

Unless its voiced over, it means more text to skip and hit "Accept".

You know those unskippable cutscenes whenever you make a new character in WAR?

It'll be like that after every quest.

[Tige]

Unless its voiced over, it means more text to skip and hit "Accept".

Options/Sound/Disable Voice Overs

I learned that after one trip through town in eq2.

[Venkman]

hub&spoke online story board.

That's a cool way of saying it. I may need to steal it

[Azazel]

Not even worth speculating or talking about at this stage. Really. Think of all the shit that other MMOs promise at that initial press release to be part of the game at launch. Hero classes? (WoW) Dogs of War to balance RvR? (WAR) etfuckingcetera.

Expect one part KOTOR and two parts WoW with less polish than the latter and a minimum 6-month-release pushback. Wake me this time next year. Or in 2010.

[AngryGumball]

Dogs of War to balance RvR? (WAR) etfuckingcetera.

Yeah that one really had me sold on WAR something I was interested in I was suckered.

[Comstar]

They should have called it SWOTR instead: Secret Weapons Of The Republic! SWotR is a much more snappy acronym.

So, we get ANOTHER Star Wars game, that has no starship combat.

[Lantyssa]

I wouldn't bet on that.  They know it was idiotic of SWG to ship without space, and I rember a job posting in the other thread about them looking for people who have worked on space sims.  It was one of the earliest clues this was going to be Star Wars.

[TripleDES]

There better be some F13 exclusive beta invites...

[Checkers]

Ugh.  Again with two factions . . .

[tmp]

Ugh.  Again with two factions . . .

Well, it *is* Star Wars. You're either with Yoda or against the wall when the furry wookie revolution comes.

[Cadaverine]

I want to be excited, but I'll be damned if I can summon any interest.  Maybe when they have something playable, and it doesn't turn out to be another boring grindfest full of amateur hour cock-ups at every turn.

[Ingmar]

Bioware saved Star Wars for me once already, so it will take a lot of disappointing news and schedule slips and feature cuts and the like to burn through their buffer of  .

Given that this is an early MMO announcement though, I won't rule it out.

[taolurker]

Ugh.  Again with two factions . . .

One of the factions is the Sith, whom there was only ever supposed to be two of.

After I post this, I am forgetting this game exists.

[NiX]

This is EA and they are not big on risk.  But they could've given WoW a run for its money if was a full MMO, not just a hub&spoke online story board.

I thought they started this pre-EA?

[Triforcer]

Ugh.  Again with two factions . . .

One of the factions is the Sith, whom there was only ever supposed to be two of.

After I post this, I am forgetting this game exists.

Oh no you din't.  Anyone want to take this one? 

[WindupAtheist]

I'll do it. I suppose it's only right.

The Sith Order only instituted the "Rule of Two" in the aftermath of the Seventh Battle of Ruusan, when Darth Bane betrayed and annhilated the existing Brotherhood of Darkness, about 3000 years after the KOTOR era and 1000 before the movie era. Prior to this, the Sith had numbers roughly equal to the Jedi. While the Jedi have always basically been the same, the Sith have gone through a number of die-offs and resurgences, with the title "Darth" dropping in and out of use and the structure changing drastically more than once.

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[Hayduke]

Not even worth speculating or talking about at this stage. Really. Think of all the shit that other MMOs promise at that initial press release to be part of the game at launch. Hero classes? (WoW) Dogs of War to balance RvR? (WAR) etfuckingcetera.

Have they even reached that stage in development where they overreach and overpromise ground breaking features yet?  Cause I don't see it based on the announcements so far.  While it's fun to snicker when OMG GREAT STUFF gets scaled back or cut entirely until the game is eventually released as a dessicated clone of a 10 year old game this announcement seems kind of conservative and meh-worthy.

[Venkman]

Now you know, and knowing is half the battle.

Wrong IP! 

[ajax34i]

Example 2.

Those lightsaber hilts are freaking huge.  It's like they're holding champagne bottles with beams coming out of them.

[Ratman_tf]

They should have called it SWOTR instead: Secret Weapons Of The Republic! SWotR is a much more snappy acronym.

So, we get ANOTHER Star Wars game, that has no starship combat.

Star Wars Battlefront.

Republic Commando. (? Did they have space pew pew in that? I only played like the first few levels.)

[Taonas]

By the 2 screenshots posted, it looks like there going for subscriptions rather then graphics.

It looks like the WoW engine, but with starwars models.

Crap graphics + simple gameplay seems to be the way forward in the MMO gaming market.

[Wasted]

How dare they chase those pesky subscriptions.

[DraconianOne]

They should have called it SWOTR instead: Secret Weapons Of The Republic! SWotR is a much more snappy acronym.

So, we get ANOTHER Star Wars game, that has no starship combat.

Star Wars Battlefront.

Republic Commando. (? Did they have space pew pew in that? I only played like the first few levels.)

Battlefront didn't. Battlefront II did but it was pretty arcadey and not so much on the X-W:A sim side.

Republic Commando didn't. On the other hand, it did have big explosions.

[Tarami]

Flash site. For the sake of humanity, just stop. I can't browse it even if I wanted to.

[Ratman_tf]

They should have called it SWOTR instead: Secret Weapons Of The Republic! SWotR is a much more snappy acronym.

So, we get ANOTHER Star Wars game, that has no starship combat.

Star Wars Battlefront.

Republic Commando. (? Did they have space pew pew in that? I only played like the first few levels.)

Battlefront didn't. Battlefront II did but it was pretty arcadey and not so much on the X-W:A sim side.

Republic Commando didn't. On the other hand, it did have big explosions.

Mah point is that while I like Star Wars space (when it's done good) it's not necessary for a good SW game.

[Ironwood]

I'll do it. I suppose it's only right.

The Sith Order only instituted the "Rule of Two" in the aftermath of the Seventh Battle of Ruusan, when Darth Bane betrayed and annhilated the existing Brotherhood of Darkness, about 3000 years after the KOTOR era and 1000 before the movie era. Prior to this, the Sith had numbers roughly equal to the Jedi. While the Jedi have always basically been the same, the Sith have gone through a number of die-offs and resurgences, with the title "Darth" dropping in and out of use and the structure changing drastically more than once.

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