Ironman- The Movie

[Kitsune]

The only thing that irked me about the movie was that there were a solid dozen or so times that Stark should have died, suit or no suit.  Falling out of the sky from hundreds of feet up while wearing half a ton of metal isn't something that anyone's walking away from, for example.  And it only would've taken one second of footage of him firing the thrusters at the last instant to turn that scene from utterly unbelievable to okay.

[UnSub]

If we are going to get picky, my big plot hole is Pepper going to SHIELD and no-one getting to Tony before Stane did. They could have at least sent an agent to protect him.

But, you know, it's pretty minor.

[Tannhauser]

LOVED it.  IM gets the ole A++++ would watch again.

RDJ and the others actually crammed some drama and human emotion into a summer blockbuster.  Great laughs, good story, awesome sfx.  I've waited over three decades to see IM on the big screen.  Thank God they did it right. 

-Jeff Bridges=one of the best superhero villians.  Yeah I went there.
-RDJ=I knew he was a good actor but DAMN.
-SLJ="Get these mutherfuckin' Hydra OFF my mutherfuckin' helicarrier!"

Would love to see down the road IM vs. The Hulk, or the Avengers.  Or take all the current Marvel movie superheroes and make them face some gigantic threat.
That would be some awesome.

[WindupAtheist]

Regarding the fall in the desert:  The fact that the suit can fly, supersonic and intercontinental, is so absurd on the face that you just have to sort of blind yourself to physics going in.

[SurfD]

Regarding the fall in the desert:  The fact that the suit can fly, supersonic and intercontinental, is so absurd on the face that you just have to sort of blind yourself to physics going in.

Well, the suit being able to go Super sonic and Intercontinental is supposed to be due to the use of "Stark Industries Proprietary Repulsor Technology" as some sort of high tech ultra efficient and compact propulsion system, coupled with his "uber arc reactor" which puts out more energy then full sized power plants, but fits in the palm of your hand.

The fall in the Desert still seems improbable however.

[Triforcer]

Le awesome.  The only downside is everyone is going to whine when Dark Knight comes out that it isn't as good as this, which will anger me. 

[Lantyssa]

He was using proprietary Stark Industries Inertial Dampeners which he then improved upon for the newer suits.  They didn't want to throw too much technobabble at you though, so they skipped over it.

[Aez]

Great movie.

Hoax - If you like good tactical fights, be sure to check this gem :


Also:

Any comic fan can direct me to the best Ironman series?  I'm guessing there's ultimate, extreme and rebirth XXX.  Any series is seen has the real canon?

[stray]

The real canon is just the plain iron man and avengers comics. I'd suggest just the Ultimate stuff, since you can avoid civil war, and get a re-telling of all of the marvel universe in new art.

On the flipside, the ultimate origin story for stark isn't the standard one told all of the time (basically, he's born with an ailment...kind of a boy-in-the-bubble sort of thing...AND, he's kind of a superpowered mutant when it comes to his intelligence). It's written by orson scott card, if that matters.

[rk47]

when i glanced over the blue baby start i decided to give it a miss. They already have Xmen, Spidey, Ironman, Nick Fury, Daredevil, Ghost Rider, FF and Hulk. Just toss in David Hasselhoff as Captain America and we're ready 

[WindupAtheist]

Well, the suit being able to go Super sonic and Intercontinental is supposed to be due to the use of "Stark Industries Proprietary Repulsor Technology" as some sort of high tech ultra efficient and compact propulsion system, coupled with his "uber arc reactor" which puts out more energy then full sized power plants, but fits in the palm of your hand.

And also keeps you from having to poop while making a 6000 mile flight to Afghanistan in an enclosed metal suit.

[Samwise]

He was using proprietary Stark Industries Inertial Dampeners which he then improved upon for the newer suits.

 

[Phildo]

The suit probably just recycles waste like a space suit.

[Velorath]

Any comic fan can direct me to the best Ironman series?  I'm guessing there's ultimate, extreme and rebirth XXX.  Any series is seen has the real canon?

Some key TPB's:

- Iron Man: Demon in a Bottle.  Deals with Stark's alcoholism.

- Armor Wars.  Iron Man hunts down various armored villains who've stolen his technology.

- War Machine (TPB releases near the end of the month).  Since they seem to be setting up the possiblity of Rhodes donning the armor in the movies at some point, this could be helpful reading for those interested.

[Margalis]

I just read Ultimates Volume 1 & 2. In it Iron Man actually mentions Robert Downey Jr. ("I've had my nose broken more times than Robert Downey Jr.) In the Ultimates universe a lot of characters are drawn to look similar to real people. Was Stark in any way based on Downey Jr?

[stray]

I just glanced at issue 3. The artwork doesn't look like him to me. I think it's just that RDJ did his best to capture it.

At the very least, it didn't register enough with anyone at the Marvel film division to think so. Apparently, they weren't interested in giving it to him at first. He had to audition and test for the role like a newb. It was his idea to go after the part. So taking that into account, I don't think those comics originally had him in mind (like Sam Jackson/Nick Fury, for example).

[Venkman]

Yea! Glad I with folks who made me stay 'til the end credits.

Movie rocked. Only two things bothered me:

• Pacing. Something was, err, "off" in parts. The most noticable was the beginning: long shot of HUMVEES for two seconds and then they cut to the Jerry Bruckheiemer-esque music+staccoto camera work. Later with Pepper walks in on Stark getting suited up, there's that pregnant-pause where he's wondering what to say and then is all flippant. I liked the preview trailer treatment of that scene better.
  
• The origin story of fighting another robot. This is a larger issue I have with some of the big comics. Not sure how pervasive this is, but it seems like the most known good guys have as their origins big fights with mere perversions of themselves. I wanted more Ironman against military weapons, less Ironman against... a bigger Ironman. I'm probably being picky, and I'm sure the movie was pretty close to established lore.

I think this movie will be successful enough to prompt a sequel. But, I wonder, will it be a sequel? Or will it be Avengers? I'm undecided which one I'd rather have

[Trippy]

• The origin story of fighting another robot. This is a larger issue I have with some of the big comics. Not sure how pervasive this is, but it seems like the most known good guys have as their origins big fights with mere perversions of themselves. I wanted more Ironman against military weapons, less Ironman against... a bigger Ironman. I'm probably being picky, and I'm sure the movie was pretty close to established lore.

Not really.

[Phildo]

I wanted the Mandarin, dammit.  I was SURE they were going to spring him on us.

[UnSub]

Just toss in David Hasselhoff as Captain America and we're ready 

Hasselhoff would reprise his role as Nick Fury.



More seriously, the only actor I could think of playing Captain America is Aaron Eckhart, but he might look a little old and he's in "The Dark Knight" so Marvel might not want him to appear in their film.

[WindupAtheist]

Mandarin?  Fuck no.  Some shit just won't fly outside of a comic book, and the evil Chinese wizard with magic rings from an alien spaceship is one of them.

[Phildo]

And dragons.  DRAGONS!

[HaemishM]

Mandarin?  Fuck no.  Some shit just won't fly outside of a comic book, and the evil Chinese wizard with magic rings from an alien spaceship is one of them.

I haven't seen it yet, but my buddy told me the terrorist group that captures him at the beginning is named Ten Rings. Which means the Mandarin is around and will likely be the villain in a sequel.

Also, the Stane villain had nothing to do with Iron Man's origin in the comics. Stane was an industrialist who came after Stark in the late 100's of the Iron Man book. He bought out Stark Industries, sent Iron Man packing and for a while there, Rhodes was Iron Man while Tony went back into the bottle. Tony finally crawled out and made the red and white suit, around issue #200, and fought Stane in his giant dark blue suit and won. I don't remember if Stane ever came back after that.

[schild]

Aaron Eckhart should play everything and everyone.

[Phildo]

There were 1 or 2 other things that led into a potential Mandarin storyline as well.  The leader of the Ten Rings is seen playing absent-mindedly with a very ornamental ring in one scene, and he went on about Mongolian history.

[Lantyssa]

The Mandarin was definately in it.  They never called him by name or gave you any reason to know about him unless you know the Iron Man story at all.  I liked how they handled it.

[Velorath]

From Yahoo:

Marvel today updated its feature film slate strategy and plans for the next three years, locking in key release windows for its character franchises. In order to focus its attention on maximizing the success of an Iron Man sequel and the launch of Thor in the summer of 2010 and because Marvel believes that the summer is the optimal time to launch a new property, the Company will not release a self produced film in 2009. Marvel plans to launch its 2010 film slate with the release of the sequel, Iron Man 2, on April 30, 2010, followed by the launch of Thor on June 4, 2010. Additionally, Marvel is planting its feature film stakes for summer 2011 with an Avengers-themed summer – a two-picture project which will debut on May 6, 2011 with The First Avenger: Captain America (working title), followed by The Avengers in July 2011.

[Phildo]

They can do Thor all they want as long as no one says anything about the Mallet Merengue.

[Riggswolfe]

I think Thor will be very hard to do and not make it a parody of itself. I keep picturing Karl Urban (the dude from LOTR and Doom) as Thor and them making Thor: Pathfinder of the Rings.

[Mrbloodworth]

Hmm Avengers vs the Inhumans is probably a good way to ease into the Illuminati ? Not sure who's gonna play Blackbolt and Doc Strange though.

Win.


To add to that.


WAR MACHINE!

[Velorath]

I think Thor will be very hard to do and not make it a parody of itself. I keep picturing Karl Urban (the dude from LOTR and Doom) as Thor and them making Thor: Pathfinder of the Rings.

Marvel has a hard time even finding a way to do the Thor comic right.  As far as the movie goes, assuming they go with Donald Blake, do they make him a separate personality from Thor, or will they be one and the same person?  Should Asgard be brought into first movie in any large capacity, or should it start off more grounded in the "real" world?  What big motherfucker can be cast as Thor who also isn't a completely shit actor?

[murdoc]

According to IMDB, the guy rumoured to be cast as Thor is Kevin McKidd.

Only thing I've ever really seen him in was Rome.

[stray]

Dude, Raul Julia is DEAD.


I guess Kevin McKidd could make a pretty good Thor. Funny that Titus Pullo is going to be the new Punisher too (I rather liked Tom Jane).

[Johny Cee]

According to IMDB, the guy rumoured to be cast as Thor is Kevin McKidd.

Only thing I've ever really seen him in was Rome.

He was in Dog Soldiers (great genre monster movie) and I think in Trainspotting?

[Mrbloodworth]

Dude, Raul Julia is DEAD.

Well shitt, he would have made a good one.