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Reg
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on: January 20, 2012, 11:35:44 AM

It's gone fully Free To Play now so it's practically a whole new game!

Steal useful stuff from the old and broken thread and repost it in here and let the old thread die a well deserved and long overdue death.
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Reply #1 on: January 20, 2012, 11:59:38 AM

The old thread has worked fine for me. I think some of you people are broken.
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Reply #2 on: January 20, 2012, 12:01:38 PM

Ha really? It's been an annoyance to me for ages. But feel free to delete this thread if you think the old one is good for most people.
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Reply #3 on: January 20, 2012, 12:09:42 PM

It constantly sends me to the wrong place when I click on the 'new' button, usually several pages behind where the actual new posts are.

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Reply #4 on: January 20, 2012, 01:41:12 PM

I'm sure it worked fine for moderator level access  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

For the rest of us Terracottas, not so much.

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Reply #5 on: January 20, 2012, 04:05:37 PM

I never even noticed it was broken. I just go to the last page of whatever thread I'm looking at.

Anyway, Star Trek. They released a new screenshot from the forthcoming Dominion arc. It's a dude in a spacesuit, walking on the exterior of DS9.

Fuck yeah.  DRILLING AND MANLINESS

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Reply #6 on: January 20, 2012, 10:35:01 PM

Never worked for me, so I didn't follow the thread with the usual apathetic curiosity I follow most MMOs I've no interest in playing. Glad to know that can resume.

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Reply #7 on: January 20, 2012, 11:37:16 PM

I gave this a go the other day (SWTOR servers were down), having a friend who's played it forever and loves it.

Sorry to say it didn't pass my 1-hour fun test. I couldn't get past the deeply ugly engine, the painfully-slow-walking-in-treacle character movement and the clunky UI. There may well be a great game in there somewhere but then SWTOR came back online.

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Reply #8 on: January 21, 2012, 09:09:22 AM

I really like it, but TOR blows it out of the water for me.

Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something.  We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Reply #9 on: January 21, 2012, 09:51:02 AM

TOR is a better lvling experience.  STO is a better endgame experience.
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Reply #10 on: January 21, 2012, 10:00:12 AM

I always felt STO was pretty fun, and the ground combat revamp is pretty swank. It also sees actual content updates, which puts it a step above Champions, which has seen precisely dick in the past two years. That said, it's fun that doesn't last too long since you'll be out of things to do in three weeks since leveling is lightning fast now, and the end-game is hardly compelling enough that you'd want to go back to it over and over.
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Reply #11 on: January 21, 2012, 03:00:20 PM

TOR is a better lvling experience.  STO is a better endgame experience.
Solution?  Pay a chinese gold farmer to lvl your STO char. for ya whilst you lvl in STO.  -fin

Sense. You should start making some, soon.
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Reply #12 on: January 21, 2012, 03:44:39 PM

TOR is a better lvling experience.  STO is a better endgame experience.
Solution?  Pay a chinese gold farmer to lvl your STO char. for ya whilst you lvl in STO.  -fin

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Reply #13 on: January 21, 2012, 03:46:46 PM

Like I said in one of the SWTOR threads, endgame is bullshit in any game.

The draw to STO was actually the story lines too. All the shit that lead up to the JJ Abrams movie and the stuff that happened after in the prime universe were fucking awesome. The endgame of grinding through Borg and Undine shit over and over was the exact opposite of fucking awesome.

Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something.  We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Reply #14 on: January 21, 2012, 09:03:44 PM

We get that you hate MMO endgames. It'd be nice to not hear it in every thread.

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Reply #15 on: January 22, 2012, 07:31:36 AM

I played this for a few hours yesterday.  Initial reactions:

1) My god is the interface intimidating

2) My god the whole ground game is just... ugly.  It's lacking the stylized-approach of WOW and instead looks like Dungeon Siege II.  The ships, on the other hand, are fantastic.  I resent that missions even have a ground component because it means less time in my ship.

3) The ships and descriptions gave me a little geek-gasm when browsing them on the Starbase

4) The ground game was ok mechanically but the interface works poorly if you're supposed to direct your away-team for any sort of tactics.

5) TOR has ruined normal MMOs for me.  I was sick of reading things after a half hour.

6) I don't know if it throws too much at a player too quickly or it just does a horrible job of explaining things, but I was lost for a good while.  Sure, I stumbled through but I never felt I got the hang of the basics and I was just getting lucky in my victories.  That doesn't inspire me to go back.

7) As far as free games go, I'd rather play World of Tanks. Simpler interface and a simpler game but over-all more depth in terms of mechanics and knowledge you gain as you get more experienced as a player.

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Reply #16 on: January 22, 2012, 07:44:31 AM

We get that you hate MMO endgames. It'd be nice to not hear it in every thread.

I've bitched about endgame in exactly two threads. And if you can honestly give me an example of why grinding merits for unlockable gear in STO is such a great thing, I'll shut up. Until then, kindly piss off.

Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something.  We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Reply #17 on: January 22, 2012, 09:08:29 AM

I've never even played this before, it's just tiresome to hear people bash entire gameplay styles that they personally don't like.

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Reply #18 on: January 22, 2012, 11:03:21 AM

You say you haven't played the endgame of this or even the game at all, yet you tell me to stop bashing it when I have played to the endgame and found it wanting.

"Endgame" is not a gameplay style, either, but hey.

To keep this on topic, yes, even with the revamping of ground combat, it's still clunky. I like it, but it's definitely very rough around the edges and feels jarringly out of place considering how good the space combat is. The Klingon play has definitely gotten better, but it's still damned shallow when compared to Fed play. There are glaring spots in it where you have to grind up to the next level to get a structured mission set.

Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something.  We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Reply #19 on: January 24, 2012, 02:00:54 PM


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Reply #20 on: January 24, 2012, 03:11:30 PM

It's a nice gesture!  Probably won't use it ever given that it's likely to have the same crap turn rate as every other big ship, but I'll happily accept it and keep it in my stable to fly around when the mood hits.
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Reply #21 on: January 25, 2012, 12:49:13 AM

TOR is a better lvling experience.  STO is a better endgame experience.
Solution?  Pay a chinese gold farmer to lvl your STO char. for ya whilst you lvl in STO.  -fin

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Reply #22 on: January 25, 2012, 02:49:19 PM

TOR is a better lvling experience.  STO is a better endgame experience.
Solution?  Pay a chinese gold farmer to lvl your STO char. for ya whilst you lvl in STO.  -fin

You're grunk when you're in rehab, right?

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Reply #23 on: January 26, 2012, 01:34:41 PM

Notes for today's patch, including a vast sea of Duty Officer tweaks.

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As you gain commendation tiers in the Medical, Military and Engineering commendation categories, you gain the ability to use your ship's replicator to manufacture holograms of three specializations at increasingly higher cost and quality.

http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?p=3971617#post3971617

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Reply #24 on: January 26, 2012, 05:53:09 PM

For those interested in such things: STO lead designer Al 'Gecko' Rivera on STO's past and future:

Massively.com recaps a podcast

Summary:

 - Foundry tools being improved in STO, but no date set at this point. Each Cryptic game team works on their title separately, so changes to Neverwinter's Foundry tools aren't automatically transferable to STO / ChampO.

 - Grab bags earned Cryptic a lot of money, so they will be staying. Part of the reason they came about was CBS not letting Cryptic release the Jem'Hadar ships unless they were ultra rare due to lore concerns.

 - New factions won't be added until the Klingons have a lot more to do.

 - Atari and Cryptic didn't get on, with Atari having a box release mindset and not wanting to keep investing in Cryptic once the titles had been released. When Atari divested itself of Cryptic, Cryptic went dark and their were come job cuts. Now owned by Perfect World Entertainment, Cryptic is looking to hire more people.

It's from the lead designer, so take that was you will.

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Reply #25 on: January 26, 2012, 09:52:21 PM

Todays patch was pretty hefty, 902 mgs uncompressed.

FTP seems to have been an initial success, the servers are pretty crowded.

I really agree though that the "endgame" needs to have more than 6 scenarios (3 ground 3 space) to be viable. But its pretty fun, but it does depend on having team members that have a clue. I know I'm going to start organizing fleet ops in my own fleet to some of the non Borg fleet content. I really don't know about the decision to massively speed up the leveling process, especially considering that hardly leaves time for non subs to gather Dilithium to get their leveled ships. It also means they hit the wall of the endgame faster, but in my new character play through there still was a couple of episodes to go when he hit vice admiral.

I didn't like ground at first either, but it does break up the space sequences pretty well and increases the longevity of it I think. I quite enjoy it now.

Accidentally got a random screenshot a couple of weeks back that was actually pretty decent.

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Reply #26 on: January 27, 2012, 07:43:03 AM

Is there anywhere left to get the digital deluxe goodies at a decent price?  I missed that one $3 Steam sale, and had just been waiting for another deal like that.  Mainly I want the Trill option and the passive defense laser, and if I'm going to give this a shot I'd rather have the racial option at character creation.

The cheapest I've found so far is a 10 pound offer, from a UK company I don't know.  Most places aren't offering it at all now.

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Reply #27 on: January 27, 2012, 10:08:39 AM

For those interested in such things: STO lead designer Al 'Gecko' Rivera...

And thank you for reminding me why I stay away from this game  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Reply #28 on: January 28, 2012, 03:47:32 AM

Played the new f2p version for a short time.

IMO the did improve the game in some ways, late but at last the tried.
Still not liking sto, however some of the work the have done is a major step in the right direction.


Good
You can now access fleet actions or other pve stuff trough a lfg interface.
The duty officer system ala a enhanced swtor "crew mission" adds a little more dept to your crew.
Ground combat has now some kind of fps perspective.
Some areas got a reskin, like the klingon homeworld.
It seems the foundry (player content) fix some content holes...
Skill points make more sense now.
New mission looking better including some of the old missions that got a quality pass like doomsday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FePdEi_f0I


Bad
I still dont like the endgame pve stuff, ground mission bah.
PvP no idea what happen. From the few missions I played it was a nightmare. Hope you have a escort ship (w stealth).
The UI is better then the SWTOR one, at last you can move the windows but &$%&$%%$&$ the "auction house" UI.


No Idea how the new currency works out. I have a klingon and fed at max. lvl and I have no desire to buy anything out of the shop.
I do like the space battles  and for a f2p game it is not that bad but something is still missing......................not playing.............



Oh and alienware has still 1k keys if the are still working? http://www.alienwarearena.com/giveaway/star-trek-online-subscription-bundle/



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Reply #29 on: January 29, 2012, 08:15:31 PM

Am I doing this right?


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Reply #30 on: January 29, 2012, 09:58:25 PM

Yes.

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Reply #31 on: January 30, 2012, 12:47:53 PM

I think you've got something on your face.

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Reply #32 on: February 01, 2012, 11:33:53 AM

It's back up on Steam, btw: http://store.steampowered.com/app/9900

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Reply #33 on: February 01, 2012, 11:37:56 AM

I think you've got your face on a something.

FTFY

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Reply #34 on: February 03, 2012, 02:48:35 PM

I got the free ship.  I logged out.

The duty missions seem pretty....nifty.  I'll probably log back in to see what happened.

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