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Title: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Reg on January 20, 2012, 10:35:44 AM
It's gone fully Free To Play now so it's practically a whole new game!

Steal useful stuff from the old and broken thread and repost it in here and let the old thread die a well deserved and long overdue death.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: rattran on January 20, 2012, 10:59:38 AM
The old thread has worked fine for me. I think some of you people are broken.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Reg on January 20, 2012, 11:01:38 AM
Ha really? It's been an annoyance to me for ages. But feel free to delete this thread if you think the old one is good for most people.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Ingmar on January 20, 2012, 11:09:42 AM
It constantly sends me to the wrong place when I click on the 'new' button, usually several pages behind where the actual new posts are.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: luckton on January 20, 2012, 12:41:12 PM
I'm sure it worked fine for moderator level access  :grin:

For the rest of us Terracottas, not so much.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on January 20, 2012, 03:05:37 PM
I never even noticed it was broken. I just go to the last page of whatever thread I'm looking at.

Anyway, Star Trek. They released a new screenshot from the forthcoming Dominion arc. It's a dude in a spacesuit, walking on the exterior of DS9. (http://www.startrekonline.com/dyncontent/startrek/uploads/fe4_screen1.jpg)

Fuck yeah.  :drill:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rendakor on January 20, 2012, 09:35:01 PM
Never worked for me, so I didn't follow the thread with the usual apathetic curiosity I follow most MMOs I've no interest in playing. Glad to know that can resume.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: apocrypha on January 20, 2012, 10:37:16 PM
I gave this a go the other day (SWTOR servers were down), having a friend who's played it forever and loves it.

Sorry to say it didn't pass my 1-hour fun test. I couldn't get past the deeply ugly engine, the painfully-slow-walking-in-treacle character movement and the clunky UI. There may well be a great game in there somewhere but then SWTOR came back online.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on January 21, 2012, 08:09:22 AM
I really like it, but TOR blows it out of the water for me.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Ghambit on January 21, 2012, 08:51:02 AM
TOR is a better lvling experience.  STO is a better endgame experience.
Solution?  Pay a chinese gold farmer to lvl your STO char. for ya whilst you lvl in STO.  -fin


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: koro on January 21, 2012, 09:00:12 AM
I always felt STO was pretty fun, and the ground combat revamp is pretty swank. It also sees actual content updates, which puts it a step above Champions, which has seen precisely dick in the past two years. That said, it's fun that doesn't last too long since you'll be out of things to do in three weeks since leveling is lightning fast now, and the end-game is hardly compelling enough that you'd want to go back to it over and over.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: rattran on January 21, 2012, 02:00:20 PM
TOR is a better lvling experience.  STO is a better endgame experience.
Solution?  Pay a chinese gold farmer to lvl your STO char. for ya whilst you lvl in STO.  -fin

Sense. You should start making some, soon.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Chimpy on January 21, 2012, 02:44:39 PM
TOR is a better lvling experience.  STO is a better endgame experience.
Solution?  Pay a chinese gold farmer to lvl your STO char. for ya whilst you lvl in STO.  -fin

Sense. You should start making some, soon.
That is like asking the sun to come up in the west.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on January 21, 2012, 02:46:46 PM
Like I said in one of the SWTOR threads, endgame is bullshit in any game.

The draw to STO was actually the story lines too. All the shit that lead up to the JJ Abrams movie and the stuff that happened after in the prime universe were fucking awesome. The endgame of grinding through Borg and Undine shit over and over was the exact opposite of fucking awesome.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rendakor on January 21, 2012, 08:03:44 PM
We get that you hate MMO endgames. It'd be nice to not hear it in every thread.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on January 22, 2012, 06:31:36 AM
I played this for a few hours yesterday.  Initial reactions:

1) My god is the interface intimidating

2) My god the whole ground game is just... ugly.  It's lacking the stylized-approach of WOW and instead looks like Dungeon Siege II.  The ships, on the other hand, are fantastic.  I resent that missions even have a ground component because it means less time in my ship.

3) The ships and descriptions gave me a little geek-gasm when browsing them on the Starbase

4) The ground game was ok mechanically but the interface works poorly if you're supposed to direct your away-team for any sort of tactics.

5) TOR has ruined normal MMOs for me.  I was sick of reading things after a half hour.

6) I don't know if it throws too much at a player too quickly or it just does a horrible job of explaining things, but I was lost for a good while.  Sure, I stumbled through but I never felt I got the hang of the basics and I was just getting lucky in my victories.  That doesn't inspire me to go back.

7) As far as free games go, I'd rather play World of Tanks. Simpler interface and a simpler game but over-all more depth in terms of mechanics and knowledge you gain as you get more experienced as a player.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on January 22, 2012, 06:44:31 AM
We get that you hate MMO endgames. It'd be nice to not hear it in every thread.

I've bitched about endgame in exactly two threads. And if you can honestly give me an example of why grinding merits for unlockable gear in STO is such a great thing, I'll shut up. Until then, kindly piss off.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rendakor on January 22, 2012, 08:08:29 AM
I've never even played this before, it's just tiresome to hear people bash entire gameplay styles that they personally don't like.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on January 22, 2012, 10:03:21 AM
You say you haven't played the endgame of this or even the game at all, yet you tell me to stop bashing it when I have played to the endgame and found it wanting.

"Endgame" is not a gameplay style, either, but hey.

To keep this on topic, yes, even with the revamping of ground combat, it's still clunky. I like it, but it's definitely very rough around the edges and feels jarringly out of place considering how good the space combat is. The Klingon play has definitely gotten better, but it's still damned shallow when compared to Fed play. There are glaring spots in it where you have to grind up to the next level to get a structured mission set.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on January 24, 2012, 01:00:54 PM
Anniversary #2: free flagships for everyone! (http://www.startrekonline.com/node/2838)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Kitsune on January 24, 2012, 02:11:30 PM
It's a nice gesture!  Probably won't use it ever given that it's likely to have the same crap turn rate as every other big ship, but I'll happily accept it and keep it in my stable to fly around when the mood hits.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: lamaros on January 24, 2012, 11:49:13 PM
TOR is a better lvling experience.  STO is a better endgame experience.
Solution?  Pay a chinese gold farmer to lvl your STO char. for ya whilst you lvl in STO.  -fin

You're grunk when you're in rehab, right?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: rattran on January 25, 2012, 01:49:19 PM
TOR is a better lvling experience.  STO is a better endgame experience.
Solution?  Pay a chinese gold farmer to lvl your STO char. for ya whilst you lvl in STO.  -fin

You're grunk when you're in rehab, right?

You made coffee come out of my nose, you bastard. Good job.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on January 26, 2012, 12:34:41 PM
Notes for today's patch, including a vast sea of Duty Officer tweaks.

Quote
As you gain commendation tiers in the Medical, Military and Engineering commendation categories, you gain the ability to use your ship's replicator to manufacture holograms of three specializations at increasingly higher cost and quality.

http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?p=3971617#post3971617


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: UnSub on January 26, 2012, 04:53:09 PM
For those interested in such things: STO lead designer Al 'Gecko' Rivera on STO's past and future:

Massively.com recaps a podcast (http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/01/21/captain-s-log-cryptic-s-lead-systems-designer-responds-to-quest/)

Summary:

 - Foundry tools being improved in STO, but no date set at this point. Each Cryptic game team works on their title separately, so changes to Neverwinter's Foundry tools aren't automatically transferable to STO / ChampO.

 - Grab bags earned Cryptic a lot of money, so they will be staying. Part of the reason they came about was CBS not letting Cryptic release the Jem'Hadar ships unless they were ultra rare due to lore concerns.

 - New factions won't be added until the Klingons have a lot more to do.

 - Atari and Cryptic didn't get on, with Atari having a box release mindset and not wanting to keep investing in Cryptic once the titles had been released. When Atari divested itself of Cryptic, Cryptic went dark and their were come job cuts. Now owned by Perfect World Entertainment, Cryptic is looking to hire more people.

It's from the lead designer, so take that was you will.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on January 26, 2012, 08:52:21 PM
Todays patch was pretty hefty, 902 mgs uncompressed.

FTP seems to have been an initial success, the servers are pretty crowded.

I really agree though that the "endgame" needs to have more than 6 scenarios (3 ground 3 space) to be viable. But its pretty fun, but it does depend on having team members that have a clue. I know I'm going to start organizing fleet ops in my own fleet to some of the non Borg fleet content. I really don't know about the decision to massively speed up the leveling process, especially considering that hardly leaves time for non subs to gather Dilithium to get their leveled ships. It also means they hit the wall of the endgame faster, but in my new character play through there still was a couple of episodes to go when he hit vice admiral.

I didn't like ground at first either, but it does break up the space sequences pretty well and increases the longevity of it I think. I quite enjoy it now.

Accidentally got a random screenshot a couple of weeks back that was actually pretty decent.



Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Lantyssa on January 27, 2012, 06:43:03 AM
Is there anywhere left to get the digital deluxe goodies at a decent price?  I missed that one $3 Steam sale, and had just been waiting for another deal like that.  Mainly I want the Trill option and the passive defense laser, and if I'm going to give this a shot I'd rather have the racial option at character creation.

The cheapest I've found so far is a 10 pound offer, from a UK company I don't know.  Most places aren't offering it at all now.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: luckton on January 27, 2012, 09:08:39 AM
For those interested in such things: STO lead designer Al 'Gecko' Rivera...

And thank you for reminding me why I stay away from this game  :grin:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: zardoz on January 28, 2012, 02:47:32 AM
Played the new f2p version for a short time.

IMO the did improve the game in some ways, late but at last the tried.
Still not liking sto, however some of the work the have done is a major step in the right direction.


Good
You can now access fleet actions or other pve stuff trough a lfg interface.
The duty officer system ala a enhanced swtor "crew mission" adds a little more dept to your crew.
Ground combat has now some kind of fps perspective.
Some areas got a reskin, like the klingon homeworld.
It seems the foundry (player content) fix some content holes...
Skill points make more sense now.
New mission looking better including some of the old missions that got a quality pass like doomsday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FePdEi_f0I


Bad
I still dont like the endgame pve stuff, ground mission bah.
PvP no idea what happen. From the few missions I played it was a nightmare. Hope you have a escort ship (w stealth).
The UI is better then the SWTOR one, at last you can move the windows but &$%&$%%$&$ the "auction house" UI.


No Idea how the new currency works out. I have a klingon and fed at max. lvl and I have no desire to buy anything out of the shop.
I do like the space battles  and for a f2p game it is not that bad but something is still missing......................not playing.............



Oh and alienware has still 1k keys if the are still working? http://www.alienwarearena.com/giveaway/star-trek-online-subscription-bundle/ (http://www.alienwarearena.com/giveaway/star-trek-online-subscription-bundle/)





Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Yegolev on January 29, 2012, 07:15:31 PM
Am I doing this right?

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/85916/Horatia_Millicent_Hornblowess.jpg)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Mrbloodworth on January 29, 2012, 08:58:25 PM
Yes.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Simond on January 30, 2012, 11:47:53 AM
I think you've got something on your face.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Simond on February 01, 2012, 10:33:53 AM
It's back up on Steam, btw: http://store.steampowered.com/app/9900


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: luckton on February 01, 2012, 10:37:56 AM
I think you've got your face on a something.

FTFY


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Furiously on February 03, 2012, 01:48:35 PM
I got the free ship.  I logged out.

The duty missions seem pretty....nifty.  I'll probably log back in to see what happened.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Simond on February 04, 2012, 01:43:46 PM
The server just crashed due to population load. File under "nice problems to have".


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Simond on February 07, 2012, 03:20:03 AM
And a few tips:

Duty officer assignments - run these all the time. Even if it means throwing random redshirts who lack any relevant aptitude at a problem. It's essentially free income with (mostly) low risk. Duty officer aptitudes ('honourable', 'logical' or the career ones) count as half-a-level, so a common-rarity officer with two relevant aptitudes to the assignment is more-or-less equal to a green-rarity officer with none.

Tradeskills: Put all the stuff in your bank. You don't need it on you for R&D to work.

Autofire: is currently bugged. /defaultautoattack 1 turns it back on. You might need to use it twice (enable it, select the weapons you want, and then enable it again).

E: A typical Klingon duty officer assignment -
(http://i.imgur.com/8rExd.jpg)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: zardoz on February 07, 2012, 02:09:22 PM
And a few tips:

Duty officer assignments - run these all the time. Even if it means throwing random redshirts who lack any relevant aptitude at a problem. It's essentially free income with (mostly) low risk. Duty officer aptitudes ('honourable', 'logical' or the career ones) count as half-a-level, so a common-rarity officer with two relevant aptitudes to the assignment is more-or-less equal to a green-rarity officer with none.
...
Yuck.  Hope the duty officers don't have a % chance to overthrow their captain, klingon style.


Other news.

Quote
Cardassian Lock Box

Starting after the maintenance this Thursday (February 9, 2012), a new item will begin dropping as loot in the game. This item is called a Cardassian Lock Box.

When a Cardassian Lock Box is opened, it will grant the character that opens it a random reward. These rewards range from a rare starship, to some great new items. The possible rewards are:

    A box with a Cardassian Galor class cruiser starship.
    A box with a powerful cross-faction starship console. When opened by a Federation character, it contains the Graviton Pulse Generator console (which is normally only available to Klingon players who purchase the Puyjaq Raptor), and when opened by a Klingon character, it contains an Impulse Burst console (which is normally only available to Federation players that purchase the Gladius Escort). This is the only way to get a console that is normally restricted to the other faction, making these consoles especially valuable.
    A box with a Crossfire Tribble. This ground combat themed Tribble provides a small damage boost in shooter mode and a small damage resistance in RPG mode.
    A Duty Officer Pack just like the ones sold in the C-Store.
    A Large Commendation Boost, which grants a 20% bonus to Commendation XP for up to 10,000 CXP before it is fully consumed.
    A smaller Commendation Boost, which grants a 20% bonus to Commendation XP for up to 2,000 CXP before it is fully consumed.
    A Skill Point Boost, which grants a 20% bonus to Skill Points for up to 1,000 SP before it is fully consumed.
    A box with a shuttle pet. When opened by a Federation character, it contains a Runabout companion pet. When opened by a Klingon character, it contains a Toron shuttle companion pet.
    A box with a Dilithium Horta companion pet that can be used by both Federation and Klingon characters.
    A box with a Sehlat Cub companion pet that can be used by both Federation and Klingon characters.
    A box that when opened unlocks the Deep Space Nine Federation Costume Pack for the account. It can be opened by either Federation or Klingon, but the resulting costume parts are only usable by Federation characters on the account.
    A Shield Pack box. This box contains a random blue or purple quality shield for a starship or personal shield for ground use. The item awarded is at the appropriate level for the character that opens the box.
    A box with a stack of Gamma Quadrant commodity items for use in Duty Officer missions. There are 6 different commodity types available, and you’ll get a 5 item stack of one of the types. These are used for some new DS9 themed Duty Officer missions that are being introduced at the same time as the Cardassian Lock Box.
    A box with a stack of double bonus consumables that improve two stats in combat, instead of just one. For example, a Shield and Auxiliary Battery. There are 8 different consumables (4 for space and 4 for ground) available, and you’ll get a 5 item stack of one of the consumable types.

    All items that can be awarded by the Cardassian Lock Box can be traded or sold on the auction house to other players. So if you get something you don’t want or need, you can trade them away. The Lock Boxes themselves can also be traded or auctioned if you don’t want to open them.

    To open one of the Lock Boxes, a character will also need an item called a Master Key. Master Keys can be purchased in the C-Store for 100 CP, or in a 10-pack for 900 CP. If you attempt to open a Lock Box without a Master Key, you will get a message explaining that you need one. If you have more than one Master Key, then only one key will be consumed each time you open a Lock Box.

    While playing, be on the lookout for special Gold Lock Boxes! These boxes have significantly higher odds of rewarding the more desirable items.

    Complete details on the Cardassian Lock Box will be available in an FAQ that will be released on Thursday. Details on the Galor class starship will be the subject of tomorrow’s blog.

Time to call your sponsor if you have a gambling addiction or buy some CP with dilithium ingame.

Brrr seems the sold way to many winter holiday gifts.  :drill:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on February 07, 2012, 07:30:14 PM
I'll be tossing any I find into space.

The Winter Event seemed fair - you could grind for one box, or buy however many you want with CP. This is a dick move - you have to grind AND buy.

I don't like the lockbox concept in Fallen Earth, and I don't like it here.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: zardoz on February 08, 2012, 02:10:57 AM
I'll be tossing any I find into space.

The Winter Event seemed fair - you could grind for one box, or buy however many you want with CP. This is a dick move - you have to grind AND buy.

I don't like the lockbox concept in Fallen Earth, and I don't like it here.

I don't know when I look how good the chance was to get a jim'hadar ship the last time. I still don't like it, even if you turn your ingame dilithium into cryptic points.

Quote
    472 (47.2%) Blue Boxes
    117 (11.7%) 1 Hour Skill Boosts
    87 (8.7%) Polytronic Acid Hortas
    68 (6.8%) Exocomps
    61 (6.1%) Gekli
    55 (5.5%) Eisilum Crystal Hortas
    51 (5.1%) Photonic Tribbles [may have been mixed up with Photonic Science Officer]*
    32 (3.2%) 8 Hour Skill Boosts
    28 (2.8%) Photonic Science Bridge Officers [may have been mixed up with Photonic Tribbles]*
    24 (2.4%) Federation Junior Officer Cadres
    5 (0.5%) Jem'Hadar Attack Ships
.
.
200 Mean (average) Red Boxes per Jem'Hadar ship.
138.3 Median (50% chance) Red Boxes

$250 Mean cost per Jem'Hadar ship via the C-Store.
$173 Median cost to have a 50% chance at obtaining the ship.
http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=246648


On the other hand the do nice stuff like the free flagships, that you could get even at a lvl 5 fed and save then  for later and the next moment you think bill roper is back to haunt them.



Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Count Nerfedalot on February 08, 2012, 05:17:50 PM
I don't know when I look how good the chance was to get a jim'hadar ship the last time. I still don't like it, even if you turn your ingame dilithium into cryptic points.

Quote
    472 (47.2%) Blue Boxes
    117 (11.7%) 1 Hour Skill Boosts
    87 (8.7%) Polytronic Acid Hortas
    68 (6.8%) Exocomps
    61 (6.1%) Gekli
    55 (5.5%) Eisilum Crystal Hortas
    51 (5.1%) Photonic Tribbles [may have been mixed up with Photonic Science Officer]*
    32 (3.2%) 8 Hour Skill Boosts
    28 (2.8%) Photonic Science Bridge Officers [may have been mixed up with Photonic Tribbles]*
    24 (2.4%) Federation Junior Officer Cadres
    5 (0.5%) Jem'Hadar Attack Ships
.
.
200 Mean (average) Red Boxes per Jem'Hadar ship.
138.3 Median (50% chance) Red Boxes

$250 Mean cost per Jem'Hadar ship via the C-Store.
$173 Median cost to have a 50% chance at obtaining the ship.

Thank you for that.  I was tempted to try STO out now that it's "free".   Now I'm not tempted at all.

No, I don't need a Jem'Hadar ship, I have no clue what it is or does even.  It's the whole concept of "random miniscule chances of good stuff when you buy a ticket".  That stuff is addictive and specifically, intentionally takes advantage of those susceptible to that kind of addiction.  Like me. And I HATE being taken advantage of, especially for money.  I spent way too much in a casino one night.  I've not stepped foot in one since.  I spent way too much on MT:G cards back in the beginning.  It took a few months to shake free of that addiction, but I've not bought another CCG card since.  Kinda the same with comic books and probably a couple other things I've deliberately forgotten. 

I guess I'm a slow learner, but I do learn and I seem to have a built-in defense mechanism for avoiding repeating anything that's too similar.  I get sick. For some period of time stepping into a casino or buying a pack of magic cards used to excite me, like heart racing hands shaking teenager rounding third base excited. Now the mere thought of doing either makes me nauseous.  Seeing the MT:G cards behind the counter at the drug store does nothing to me, but the last time I walked into a game/comics store (oh yeah, Battletech, HeroClix, and Warhammer tabletop miniatures was a near miss) I barely turned around and ran back out in time before I spewed on the floor.  So now, I play subscription games where my cost is fixed, or free games with simple, non-punitive restrictions on free play and NO real money options for a random chance at uber loot.  The minute that mechanism shows up in a game, I'm gone.  Period.  And I'm taking as many of my friends and acquaintances with me as I possibly can, and discouraging anyone else I have the chance to from risking being taken for a sucker.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on February 10, 2012, 12:57:27 AM
Exciting times

The lockboxes went live yesterday at 6pm my time. By 9Pm the lithium exchange had completely crashed as people were hammering it for C-Store points. The exchange was hammered and laggy as hell because of people searching for master keys to buy. And 99% of people were sick to their back teeth of the "Some@wanker has unlocked a Cardassian Galor class ship" system messages that were popping up. Yes they were globally announcing people winning Galors, and everyone was raging about it. So much for the "fun" aspect of getting randomm stuff when they are activly promoting the ship I shoved my notification window to the bottom corner of my screen where I would not notice it. And some clown on my fleet was actually trying to start up a business selling master keys and telling everyone the chances of winning a Galor was 50% not 0.5%.

Some wag was flying around in a Galor called the USS Waste Of Money. As far as we can tell its basically a cruiser with a very fast turn rate. Whoopy doo.

I am the proud owner of 4 cardassian lockboxes and 4 "Rare" mystery Boxes after one nights play (granted I play missions on elite difficulty so I have a nice drop rate). I'm chucking the whole lot into space. You need 100C-Store points to buy the key to unlock one of them and I think I'm keeping my money, thanks. It really is the most cynical move I've seen from any MMO developer, and I've played Eve ffs.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on February 10, 2012, 03:49:57 AM
Yes they were globally announcing people winning Galors, and everyone was raging about it. So much for the "fun" aspect of getting randomm stuff when they are activly promoting the ship I shoved my notification window to the bottom corner of my screen where I would not notice it.

It was very, very obvious this wasn't about the fun but, "Holy shit this made us a fuckload of money last time.  How can we maximize it this time?"  Priming the pump with global announcements only feeds the frenzy and plays on the human psyche like a motherfucker.

The F2P games are quickly learning the lessons of casinos and using their tricks without having any of the regulations.  What a surprise.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: BoatApe on February 10, 2012, 09:02:39 AM
I just started back into this game - hadn't played since beta. Having fun with no money...

Don't space your lockboxes...I made 100k a piece selling them on the exchange. Totally eliminated any worries about energy credits for my foreseeable future.


EDIT: and they are down to 1k/box and still dropping today....gotta love irrational exuberance!


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Furiously on February 10, 2012, 12:04:55 PM
I've sold blue ones for up to 250k.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Yegolev on February 10, 2012, 01:15:37 PM
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/85916/sttypo.png)
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/85916/spock_wut.gif)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Mrbloodworth on February 11, 2012, 07:32:19 PM
There is so much you can change in this game, its a bit overwhelming at times.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Mrbloodworth on February 12, 2012, 11:24:04 AM
Server Maintenance in the middle of the day? Blah...


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on February 12, 2012, 12:09:11 PM
Its unscheduled. The servers must really have been getting hammered.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Mrbloodworth on February 12, 2012, 12:38:48 PM
Yeah noticed it was unintended after I posted. I suppose having to many users is a good problem to have.

Also, with the frequency of "Such and such got a ship" announcements, they must be making bank.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tyrnan on February 12, 2012, 01:36:06 PM
Hopefully they divert some of it from making money hats to upgrading the server  :grin:

But yes, it's a nice complaint to have. Been about a year since I played and leveling is a lot more streamlined and less grindy (all those bloody patrol missions) than it was back then. And the new skill tree is much easier to decipher too. Oh and ground combat doesn't make me want to cut myself any more so that's always a plus. And sometimes it's nice to just blow up spaceships without having to worry about transversal velocity and gankers!


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: 5150 on February 13, 2012, 05:00:43 AM
I'll be tossing any I find into space.

The Winter Event seemed fair - you could grind for one box, or buy however many you want with CP. This is a dick move - you have to grind AND buy.

I don't like the lockbox concept in Fallen Earth, and I don't like it here.

You won't have to grind for the new boxes, they appear to be litterally throwing them at you as loot (that way you'll feel the need to buy loads of keys). I got 4 yesterday just running the 2800 feature mission, and a similar number running it on a different toon this morning.

I like the key buying less than I liked the xmas boxes, at least you didn't _have_ to spend c-store points at xmas (unless you wanted more boxes) but this time theres no getting around it unless you dont want the box content at all (which I'm sure is the whole point).

I would have much preferred they had gone with restricting _use_ of canon breaking ships rather than restricting availability.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Simond on February 14, 2012, 11:39:21 AM
http://www.stowiki.org/Upcoming_content#March
Lots of stuff planned - looks like going F2P is working out well.
(Also Romulans)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on February 19, 2012, 10:15:47 PM
Heh. I found a gold box and I had 100 cstore points sitting around so I thought what the hell. Of course a Galor Class cruiser fell out of litterally the first box I've ever opened.  :why_so_serious:

Surprising thing is I was immediatly inundated with people throwing buy offers at me, offering 30 million+ ECs for the thing as my name popped up oll over the server. It was actually pretty scary.

Needless to say I kept it  :grin:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Shaje on February 22, 2012, 07:28:49 AM
It's surprising how I haven't seen a single one in game after all the galor spam. Zone chats are getting more grumpy about the constant alerts. I succumbed to curiosity to buy a few keys and ended up with some decent duty officers. Still not worth it.



Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on February 22, 2012, 09:44:58 AM
The ship isnt worth it either. I'm actually typing up a review for my fleet magazine, and I'll post it here once the thing is publisned. For now thouigh its  basicly is a cruiser with more maneuverability, less crew and lesser tanking ability that comes with some nice but not spectacular weapons.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Simond on February 28, 2012, 12:01:39 PM
Not mine, but  :awesome_for_real:

(http://i.imgur.com/HiW9R.jpg)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: LK on March 26, 2012, 10:36:15 AM
I started playing this last night.

I thought it was decent.

+ The game systems look fun to explore. At the very least I want to keep playing, getting better ships and checking out different missions.
+ The game is well-rendered. Space looks far better than the ground.
+ I like that they included so much customization. I made a character more at home in the Systems Alliance than Starfleet, but it'll do!
+ The random mission generator and player generated content look interesting.
+ It seems like it is very well-supported and has had ongoing updates for some time.
+ The RMT isn't terribly intrusive.
+ Miscellaneous: F2P on Steam! Spock narrating the story. Revisiting familiar places and systems.

- The initial information dump they throw at you is intense -- I had trouble keeping track of all the resources and options available to me.
- Some options were made available to me (Dilithium Mining) that I had no idea what it was and couldn't do anyway once I found out.
- Interface is a bit difficult to tackle and manage.
- I imagine the random mission generator allure will wear off once I start seeing repeats and the grind.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: naum on April 03, 2012, 03:58:20 PM
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3795194

Quote
I was a developer for the ill-fated Perpetual Entertainment's Star Trek Online MMO (which was later sold and successfully launched by Cryptic Studios).

Star Trek Online's #1 most common feature request from beta testers was "ship
interiors." Players didn't want to play "WoW in Spaaaace" game. They wanted to play "The Sims meet Star Trek" and relive their favorite Star Trek TV episodes. That sounds like a pretty cool game (for a small, but dedicated niche), but Perpetual's game designers scoffed and (having worked at Blizzard) proceeded to create "WoW in Space."


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: UnSub on April 03, 2012, 07:08:37 PM
Is there more to the above story? I'd like to read the full account if it is around.

But Perpetual's problems weren't because they ignored player requests, so that story isn't really painting a full picture. It was "ill-fated" because Perpetual ran out of money trying to develop both Gods and Heroes and STO at the same time.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: 5150 on April 12, 2012, 05:21:44 AM
And now they are introducing the Ferengi cash grab lock boxes with...wait for it.... another new currency (didn't they just phase out a bunch of currencies because there were too many?)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Lantyssa on April 12, 2012, 10:07:02 AM
Too many to make new ones!


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on April 12, 2012, 11:06:54 AM
I think that's the 89th rule of acquisition...


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on May 13, 2012, 05:52:56 PM
STO PVP sucks. And that's straight from a Dev (http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/05/12/cryptic-developer-star-trek-online-pvp-is-fail/)

Quote
"Right now because PVP is in such bad shape we (the developers) have to decide if we think we can turn this problem around. Participation in PVP-related activities is so low on an hourly, daily, weekly, and monthly basis that we could in fact just completely take it out of STO and it would not impact the overall number of people [who] log in to the game and play in any significant way."

Next time, don't make Klingon ships god machines and don't nerf other ship classes to patheticness just because people who play escorts are super whiners, ok?

Seriously the ship balance is way off. Cannons>everything. I actually did a PVP match just to clear one of the tutorial missions the other day and it was just klingon ownage. Me and this other guy were openly chatting about how pointless this was and we were just doing this for the tutorial Dilithium. Even the new Federation Carrier is less hull and has less crew than the basic Klingon carrier that you can just get for nothing if you are a subscriber.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: koro on May 14, 2012, 04:22:32 PM
That's kind of amusing, since I remember back at launch every Klingon player whining incessantly about how PvP was pointless because "Federation ships are unkillable and wreck all Klingon ships".


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on May 14, 2012, 04:28:16 PM
Which was bullshit back then too.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on June 04, 2012, 01:37:50 PM
http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/06/04/captains-log-an-exclusive-look-at-stos-season-six-starbases/

I have no idea if any f13'ers are still playing, but if you are, we need to get together soon and form Bat Quadrant, so I can haz a starbase.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Lantyssa on June 04, 2012, 04:17:47 PM
I can probably be persuaded to log in long enough to help form a guild if that's what you're needing.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on June 04, 2012, 09:05:47 PM
I decided to play while waiting for TSW/GW2. Riggswolfe of course.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: UnSub on June 05, 2012, 06:20:29 PM
If we need members to form a fleet then I can log in as well.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on June 06, 2012, 09:08:42 AM
Is STO a one-server game? Also, I'd be happy to join the Bat Country fleet if one exists or is forming. I've been playing a little again and am quite pleasantly surprised by how the game is now compared to launch.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on June 06, 2012, 09:41:20 AM
It's one server, but each zone can have multiple instances.  You can travel freely between them.

I'm usually on in the evening, after 6pm CST.  Anyone interested in helping to form Bat Quadrant can email me in game @Rishathra, and we can set up a time when at least five of us can be on.  I'm also always happy to help kit out newbies.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Falconeer on June 06, 2012, 10:01:00 AM
See? Call me crazy, but the "One server" thing alone could make me play this for a while. Tempted to redownload right now.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on June 06, 2012, 10:10:32 AM
(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h283/tlfairgo/Ben%20Stiller/DoIt.gif)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Lantyssa on June 06, 2012, 11:04:58 AM
I don't tend to check my in-game mail.  If you get a consensus I should be available this weekend to log in long enough to help.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on June 06, 2012, 11:28:17 AM
It's one server, but each zone can have multiple instances.  You can travel freely between them.

I'm usually on in the evening, after 6pm CST.  Anyone interested in helping to form Bat Quadrant can email me in game @Rishathra, and we can set up a time when at least five of us can be on.  I'm also always happy to help kit out newbies.

I'll help form it. My highest level is only LC 16 or so but I'd love to help out. I am, @Riggswolfe if you want to mail me in game. I can be on most anytime after 5pm Central so just let me know.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on June 06, 2012, 03:10:37 PM
I'll help form it too, my Admiral and Captain are both fleetless at the moment.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on June 08, 2012, 09:35:12 AM
So how does tonight sound for the formation of Bat Quadrant?  If not today, tomorrow or Sunday are both fine, but I probably won't be available until after 9pm CST on Saturday.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on June 08, 2012, 10:26:15 AM
I can get on. If we need numbers my wife also is playing again so I can get her to log on if you need another. I'm not sure what the minimum number is to form a fleet.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on June 08, 2012, 10:55:21 AM
It's five, but if we're short I can always bribe someone hanging around ESD to come help and then kick them out after.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on June 08, 2012, 11:25:02 AM
You
Me
Surlyboi
Lantyssa
My wife who doesn't have to be bribed.

That's 5 if we can all get on at the same time.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on June 08, 2012, 03:28:04 PM
I'm on right now, and will be playing for a few hours if anyone is available.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on June 08, 2012, 04:06:15 PM
I'm about to eat dinner and watch a show with the wife but we can get on after that long enough to form the fleet though tonight she wants to play LOTRO instead of STO. I'd say we'll be around in about an hour.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on June 08, 2012, 07:09:26 PM
Bat Quadrant now exists!  In fine f13 tradition, I predict that nobody here will ever log in again.   :why_so_serious:

For anyone wishing to break tradition, let @Riggswolfe or @Rishathra know and we'll invite you in.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on July 10, 2012, 09:39:21 AM
I'm still playing. I'll go check if any of my characters are fleetless :D


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: 5150 on July 17, 2012, 05:22:20 AM
Does anyone know roughly how many fleet projects are needed to advance a single career tier (as in Tactical tier not overall starbase tier)?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on July 17, 2012, 05:59:06 AM
Ten.

Which reminds me... Bat Quadrant HQ is happily accepting donations of tactical or security common doffs, and fleet marks.  Once the blast shields are raised, I will throw some pics up.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: 5150 on July 17, 2012, 07:13:20 AM
Ten.

Which reminds me... Bat Quadrant HQ is happily accepting donations of tactical or security common doffs, and fleet marks.  Once the blast shields are raised, I will throw some pics up.

Thanks

Blast shields only need dilithium (200k IIRC) and you only have to start another project to begin the blast shield one, doesnt need to be finished


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on July 17, 2012, 09:51:09 AM
Just bad formatting on my part.  The two sentences are not meant to be directly related.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: apocrypha on August 16, 2012, 09:06:51 AM
I've been playing this for the last couple of weeks with a few friends.

Enjoying it a surprising amount! It's very MMO-lite, not punishing, quite a lot of fun, and even has a sense of humour. The F2P side of it isn't badly done either, although I think the C-Store prices for a lot of things are too high. They'd be better served IMO by making things like respec tokens, clothing, bag slots a bit cheaper and selling more of them.

I don't know what the end game is like - although I am mostly of the opinion nowadays that the entire concept of "the endgame" in any game is simply stupid, so I'm not bothered if it's the usual MMO grind fest, I'll just not partake in that.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: koro on August 16, 2012, 11:17:47 AM
Unless it's changed a lot, endgame is pretty playable as a freebie, but you're in for a literal months-long grind of dilithium to afford a single post-level-40 ship unless you're willing to open your wallet and pay Cryptic's outlandish prices.

You're not missing an awful lot if you just hit 50, piddle around with the Borg stuff a little, and then quit.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Spiff on August 16, 2012, 01:14:49 PM
Stopped playing this a few weeks back after checking it out for all the changes they made and they've improved a whole lot.
Was fun for a month and a half of very casual play and I agree that the f2p is very painless.
I would've easily tossed 'em  € 5-10 for a ship or 2, but € 15 for a single ship? Ridiculous.
Although top tier ships are basically the same power-wise as the previous free tier but with the skin of a levelling ship, so not in any way needed to do some endgame borg shenanigans.

Also: the 'buy a key for a 98% chance to get a dick in a box' thing is such a cynical and slightly annoying moneygrab, I'd feel a little dirty positively reinforcing that kind of behaviour in any way with my wallet.

You're not missing an awful lot if you just hit 50, piddle around with the Borg stuff a little, and then quit.

Which is what I did as well.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: koro on August 16, 2012, 03:53:50 PM
The "so and so opened a box and found a thing!" spam when they were first introduced was what actually got me to quit the game last time I did. You saw it literally everywhere, as it was a global alert message; I got sick of seeing it, so I logged out, ostensibly to come back once the fervor around them had died down, but I never did. I know they've since added the option to disable those popups, but I still have no pressing desire to return.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: apocrypha on August 17, 2012, 04:31:59 AM
Yeah I don't like the lockbox method of income generation. It's like scratchcards - dangerously addictive for some people. One of our fleet spent about £40 on them to get a Tholian Recluse, but he seems to have managed to stop once he got the ship. I saw someone in the Doffjobs channel the other day saying they'd spent $300 on them and not got the ship he was after.

I don't mind the cost of the ships too much - I probably won't get more than 1 or two. Plus, I've got 4 characters (my usual altitis kicking in) and just from doing doff missions and foundry instants each day I'll probably pull in enough dilithium to get something like 1000 Zen a month without spending another penny :)

Edit: forgot to ask - are the rewards for ground STFs really crap for the time invested or are we just doing them wrong? We had a go at the Borg stuff on Defera last night and it took *ages* for like... 6 fleet marks :/


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: koro on August 17, 2012, 09:19:40 AM
No idea. It's been so long since I've done them, but each one used to outright award a piece of Borg ship gear.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on August 17, 2012, 09:49:21 AM
Fleet marks are a bonus reward for Defera that you only earn during the fleet events.  If you want to grind fleet marks specifically, you are better off doing other things.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: apocrypha on August 19, 2012, 04:52:45 AM
Gotcha, cheers.

I think we had a few problems with Defera... it was late, 3 out of the 4 of us were drunk, we had crappy gear and we didn't know wtf we were doing, so describing it as a "less than optimal group" is being very kind.  :why_so_serious:

Couple of us accidentally did Khitomer Accord Ground yesterday (as in I queued us for the wrong thing) and it was quite fun, if a bit hectic. Oh and in a similar vein I accidentally took my fed tact character into a Cure Space Elite, which was far less terrifying than I thought it would be!

I fucking  :heart: the Adv Escort. Point at thing. Thing melts. Repeat!


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on August 19, 2012, 06:10:35 AM
Wait 'til you get a Defiant refit.  :drill:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: apocrypha on August 19, 2012, 06:40:43 AM
Hoping to have a Fleet one in a week or so, if I can scrape enough dil together by the time the starbase module finishes :)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on August 20, 2012, 12:15:59 AM
I actually fond just grinding the cash for a recluse carrier to be a lot better than spending dill on keys. Well, actually I did, but I sold the keys which went a long way to buying the carrier. Am I bad for taking advantage of peoples addictions?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on August 22, 2012, 06:23:57 AM
BEHOLD


Bat Quadrant is currently in possession of a tier 1 starbase, with a tier 1 shipyard (stocked) and communications array.  The transwarp gate will be online tomorrow, and the tier 1 industrial fabricator should be complete within a few days.

After that, I'm going to work on getting a tier 2 shipyard, and then the tier 2 starbase.  Once those and the associated upgrades are complete, I think I'm going to call it a day.  One person, sufficiently stockpiled through years of play, can get this far, but the tier 3 stuff is just way too expensive to do alone, at least while maintaining interest and/or sanity.  If anyone wants to get a ship, let me know and I'll grant the proper permissions.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Furiously on August 22, 2012, 01:23:31 PM
What do we need?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on August 22, 2012, 01:59:27 PM
Right now?  Nothing.  Although feel free to contribute to whatever projects are running of course.  Over the long term, the base will need hordes of common duty officers, dilithium, and fleet marks.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on August 22, 2012, 03:27:40 PM
I've got a ton of cash I could probably throw in. Let me know.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on August 23, 2012, 07:42:42 AM
We don't need cash so much as the commodities cash buys.  Are you in BQ, Surlyboi?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Pennilenko on August 23, 2012, 08:04:30 AM
I don't play that much but my characters are all fleetless. Who do I talk to, to get invited so I can toss in a piddly effort every now and then when i get the bug to log in?

@Pennilenko is my @handle


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on August 23, 2012, 09:31:10 AM
@Rishathra

I'm not sure if you can do offline invites, but I'll give it a shot.  Otherwise, I'm on almost every evening, around 6pm central.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on August 23, 2012, 11:59:12 AM
I don't think I'm in, but I'll log in in the next day or so to join and move some stuff your way.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on August 24, 2012, 10:50:32 AM
@Rishathra

I'm not sure if you can do offline invites, but I'll give it a shot.  Otherwise, I'm on almost every evening, around 6pm central.

You can. You can even issue invites to your other offline characters.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on August 24, 2012, 11:25:44 AM
Cool.  In that case, anyone who wants in give me your name@handle and I'll send the invites out.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Lantyssa on August 24, 2012, 11:27:49 AM
@Lantyssa;  I'll get to it one of these months.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on August 24, 2012, 01:40:43 PM
I need a character name to invite them.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Lantyssa on August 24, 2012, 03:07:47 PM
Kylantha, I think.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on August 26, 2012, 08:33:48 AM
Tried to invite you, but it came back as invalid name.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on August 27, 2012, 03:08:28 PM
Nice. Looks like I need to log in and see what I can do to help. :) How do we get to the starbase and such?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on August 28, 2012, 09:33:00 AM
Nice. Looks like I need to log in and see what I can do to help. :) How do we get to the starbase and such?

It's in the Eta Eridani block.  Also, the transwarp gate is up so you can go there via the transwarp menu.  To contribute to a project, use the lower right button on the minimap.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on August 28, 2012, 01:00:16 PM
If you have over 100000 on one of the DOFF experience point tracks you can convert them to fleetmarks as well with a console beside the Officer of the watch, which starts a special doff mission.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on August 29, 2012, 06:57:52 AM
Yeah, that's mainly how I've been getting projects done.

So, my original plan was to level the shipyard to rank 2, which will give us enough xp to level the starbase to rank 2.  However, after looking at what the rank 2 shipyard unlocks, (fleet star cruiser, fleet recon sci vessel, fleet escort and escort refit), I was thinking, meh.  Instead, we could go for the rank 2 communications array, which would still unlock the tier 2 starbase, and also the tier 2 transwarp gate.  So unless anyone is actually interested in any of those ships, three out of four of them requiring either $20 or 80 million energy credits, I'm going to go the science route.

Also, for those interested in contributing resources, here. http://www.stowiki.org/List_of_starbase_projects
The big projects will be the upgrades to Shipyard, Communications Array, Industrial Fabricator, and Starbase to rank 2.  So anything you see for those would be greatly appreciated.  The thing I'm worried the most about is the Uncommon astrometrics scientists needed for the transwarp gate, so if you grab any, please hold on to them.  For general advancement purposes, fleet marks, fleet marks, fleet marks.  Also dilithium if you have any to spare, otherwise I think I can cover it for the most part.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on August 29, 2012, 10:34:07 AM
Don't forget you can use Kling doffs for fed projects as well, and Vice versa. And you can turn blues into grees now as well if you are stuck.

I'll see if I have any green Astromentric scis I can send you.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 09, 2012, 07:23:54 PM
So I joined up. Plan to try playing tomorrow, once I sort out my home network. (All my shares are being bitches and refusing to, you know, see each other and whatnot.)

Either I already had a Cryptic account (I don't think so and trying to reset my password met with complete failure) or someone else uses "morat20" which is just weird. :)

It's currently patching up. I assume it's not one giant-ass server like EVE, so where is everyone?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Pennilenko on September 09, 2012, 08:00:17 PM
So I joined up. Plan to try playing tomorrow, once I sort out my home network. (All my shares are being bitches and refusing to, you know, see each other and whatnot.)

Either I already had a Cryptic account (I don't think so and trying to reset my password met with complete failure) or someone else uses "morat20" which is just weird. :)

It's currently patching up. I assume it's not one giant-ass server like EVE, so where is everyone?

It is one server.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Malakili on September 09, 2012, 08:02:42 PM
Its one server, the zones are just heavily instanced if I recall correctly.  It'll be easy to meet up with people.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 09, 2012, 08:03:46 PM
It is one server.
Well, I guess I shall get a starship tommorow and run into stuff. And phaser things.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on September 09, 2012, 10:02:39 PM
Just remember that the first ship you get is complete and total ass. It can at least equip dual cannons, a rarity in a fed cruiser.

If you let me/us know what your ingame name is I'll craft and send you some equipment to get you going.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on September 10, 2012, 06:46:56 AM
Yeah, let us know.  I'll send you some care packages.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 10, 2012, 06:25:36 PM
Will do.

FYI, is there anything in the store I should consider buying? I don't plan to spend actual money anytime soon, I'm just curious how the microtrans model is actually working.

Only MMORPG I played with one was City of Heroes, and the allure of costume pieces was...difficult to resist. Especially for my Robot Mastermind.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: koro on September 10, 2012, 07:21:38 PM
There are one or two uniform sets I really really like (the Jupiter set is probably my favorite), and maybe a ship for when you hit 50.

Everything else I'd avoid like the plague.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 10, 2012, 08:28:53 PM
I just got through the tutorial. I am...still somewhat confused. However, I'll get it sooner or later. I am an engineer of some sort. I had mines. I blew up Borg.

Then I docked at Spacedock and the loading screen has been sitting there for...some time. Finally loaded. I have to figure out loot and leveling up I think now. The third dimension makes things interesting, but not sure I like the keyboard layout.

Just futzed with my level. There's this "select ability" drop-down with things like "beam setting" and "uppercut" that I don't know what it does. :)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on September 11, 2012, 12:10:01 AM
Ok. Prepare to be more confused as I explain the skill system.

Basically you have to look for the skills that give you the ability to train your Bridge officers (companions) powers. Those are different for each  of the three classes. YOu can see whether it does if you right click on each of the skills. Also there are diminishing returns as you put points into a skill. For your first character I would not put more than 6 points into any of the skills, as the increase after 6 is marginal.

Now the op part is space skillsa dn the bottom is gorund skills. Yes theres a lot more space skills than ground :)

Personally I have the max of ground skills for most of my characters

This is an engineering build I did for one of my characters that's more space focused and energy beam focused, but generally I have more balanced builds than this. You can use this skill planner to play around with builds to see what will work

http://www.stoacademy.com/tools/skillplanner/?build=CardassianGalor_1756

For contrast here is my carrier pilot (science)

http://www.stoacademy.com/tools/skillplanner/?build=AtroxCarrier_1756


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on September 11, 2012, 06:07:17 AM
A thing to keep in mind in regards to investing in skills:  Very few of them are worth maxing out.  You actually get 52% of the maximum bonus just three points in, and 85% or so six points in.  You get enough skill points over your career to put three or six points in to pretty much everything if you so choose, and it won't gimp you like it might in other games.  So don't be afraid to throw three points in to anything that sounds good to you to see if you like it.  Except for subsystem repair, that one is garbage.  Also be wary of investing too much in certain science skills, those are only really good for science captains, or if you are planning on flying a science ship.

If the drop down you mentioned is the one I'm thinking of, basically when you select an ability from the list, it will highlight on the sheet which skills affect that ability.

Earth Space Dock will occasionally take forever to load.  If it takes more than 10-15 seconds, I usually just ctrl-alt-del STO and restart the game, it goes faster to reload the game than to wait.

One of the nice effects of the starbase system is that it caused the bottom to fall out of the dilithium/zpoint market, so it won't take long at all to convert dilithium to game cash, and you can buy costume packs to your heart's content without spending any real money and without having to do a huge amount of grinding for them.  When you hit LT 7 there are a couple of really easy daily missions you can do that will net you 1920 dilithium, and take all of two minutes to complete.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: 5150 on September 11, 2012, 06:41:59 AM
there are a couple of really easy daily missions you can do that will net you 1920 dilithium, and take all of two minutes to complete.

Please share :-)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on September 11, 2012, 08:16:54 AM
One of the daily defera missions. "Rescue the captives" if you are a fed. YOu fly over to the breen patrol, ask for something else, look for other options, analyse risks, fire the pulse, press transport captives, warp out. 480 Dil in your hand. It dosen't work for klingons though, you have to fight them.

The other one involves the "Investigate officer reports" Daily mission. There are some fabricated missions which are really easy and fast, and literally will get you 1100 dil very quickly. I'm not just going to tell you what the missions are, but a couple of obvious text searches in the community authored missions should pick them up

If you have a kling alt, do marauder Doff missions. Best places are Regulus and the Cardassian sectors. The reason is that you get sackloads of contraband, which you can share between your characters and get 2000 dil for 5 from security officers on stations and the great hall.

Then theres other ones, like doff missions you get in the nebula sectors. If you are a kling, the Forced labour ones gives you 350 for 3 or 4 of the prisoners you get from all those marauder missions. The feds can sell off civilians to the "Federation border" missions for 500 a pop, as can the klings.

Really having a klingon alt just to hoover up dil is a good investment, even if you don't do anything else with it.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: MisterNoisy on September 11, 2012, 08:19:36 AM
All this talk has me wanting to log in again, tho it's been long enough that I'm going to be noobing it up in level-capped toons/ships, (the last time I logged in was to respec and dork around a bit after the F2P conversion).  Goals like helping people level (I love the level-matching in this game) and contributing to a fleet might make the game a bit 'stickier' for me this time, so if you guys want a hand, shoot me an invite at Strelaar@misternoisy (Sci VA).  I'll have to look up my Tac VA toon's name after I log in - I sorta rushed that character through to cap once I found out about the F2P changes to lock in the good ships/loot.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on September 11, 2012, 09:24:34 AM
Really having a klingon alt just to hoover up dil is a good investment, even if you don't do anything else with it.

This.

Also, the Defera one is quick yes, but requires some travel.  The other one I was thinking of was the Academy lore question.  Go to stowiki.org/lore for the answer.  Then beam up to Earth Space Dock and do the Investigate Officer Reports.  Search for 'cybear8' or 'quickie.'  Select the three missions.  Activate a panel outside the transporter room.  Done.  I have more than one mule alt who made max level just from doing those missions and the datachip mission right next to the lore mission, once a day.

I'll shoot you an invite to Bat Quadrant, MisterNoisy.  Anyone else who would like one, Name@account.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 11, 2012, 05:24:19 PM
Right now I'm just trying to think up amusing names for my starship. The USS Jefferson seems to easy.

Finally got home -- probably won't have time to really get into it until this weekend, but it's...engaging enough that I want to at least sort out how it works. :)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 11, 2012, 08:23:28 PM
I ran my first mission. I came back with...stuff. I equipped some stuff. (Armor, some better shields, a tactical console...can't seem to sell my old shields though). I also have...common minerals? Blood wine? Some other stuff that has no actual price or seeming use.

I also got an Andorian engineering officer, which is nice. I got to make him an Ensign. Why that was open I have no idea. (Maybe because it was a lower rank than me?). I still have no cash, insofar as I'm not sure what's worth selling yet and it's not like my inventory is full.

I still can't figure out how to switch uniforms, or off duty uniforms. I suck at ground combat -- I am correct in thinking the green bar is my health and the white is my shields? I got confused for a moment and thought I was almost dying.

Should I bring my officers on away missions, or stick with red-shirts? Currently I'm playing on 'normal'. (I like difficulty sliders!).

So far it seems warp in, engage mook ships, board/land, engage as away mission, beam back, engage more mooks. Pick up loot and scan.

The scanning mini-game took a few tries to work out. I didn't realize it was timed -- thought it was 'number of moves'. Which is how I got ore and alien artifacts that I have no idea what they're for. :)

Also, which ID do I give? My character name or my ID? (not the login one, the other one. I had to pick two). I haven't even tried grouping or using chat. Heck, I'm still trying to figure out the HUD and how to get rid of the stupid "Talk to so-and-so" boxes when I don't want to see them.

And I have to keep looking up how to hit the quest logs.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on September 11, 2012, 09:12:29 PM
The alien gubbins are used to craft stuff and for some Doff Missions and starbase construction. Crafting got hit with the nerf bat a while back, in that it now costs Dilithium to do so few people do it anymore apart from specific items they want.

There 2 ways to sell stuff. Well 3. The first is to discard it, which gives the least credits. The next is at a vendor (bartenders are great for this curiously) and finally the exchange to sell it to players.

Just discard the standard shields you got. Right click on them and hit discard.

Its a good idea to bring your bridge officers along. They have powers they can throw into the battle, and you can give them gear.

You swap uniforms at a tailor. If you want the off duty uniforms click on the drop down menu on the top right hand side and select them.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: apocrypha on September 11, 2012, 10:25:07 PM
FYI, is there anything in the store I should consider buying? I don't plan to spend actual money anytime soon, I'm just curious how the microtrans model is actually working.

If you find at any point that you are amassing Energy Credits in any decent amount (over a few million) then consider buying the EC cap upgrade. As a silver player you can't have more than 10 million, the upgrade raises it to 1 billion.

If you have EC come in that puts you over the cap you simply lose the extra. Friend of mine lost a few million when he sold some stuff on the exchange that took him over the limit.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 12, 2012, 06:03:38 AM
Thanks. :)

I feel like I'm frustratingly slow picking this up, but I've been playing single player console games for a few years (other than the occasional rerun of WoW and EVE) and I'm getting maybe 30 or 45 minutes at a time to try it.

I feel vaguely annoyed that your armor covers your uniform. I've still got too much City of Heroes in me -- I went to some effort to get that uniform right, darnit! Admittedly my crew is more rag-tag band of mercs so far -- no one has the same uniform. :)

I'm finding the transitions between gun-mode and regular mode on away missions annoying --- I get stuck creeping along, gun out at times. And crouching and the zoom mode is nice, but the whole cover thing isn't working so hot. Cover based shooters have me expecting to be able to lean out and fire, instead I'm just..in cover recharging my shields.

The mix-and-match starship customizer is nice, can't wait to have more than three options.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on September 12, 2012, 06:22:23 AM
Almost everyone gets rid of the Armour graphics. you can do that on your status screen by clicking the eye icon next to where you equip your armour. Same for your team.

I'm not sure what you mean by gun modes. are you using the FPS style. I never use that myself. I prefer rolling dice to my lousy shooting :)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: 5150 on September 12, 2012, 06:32:43 AM
Advice

More advice

Thanks guys


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on September 12, 2012, 06:42:20 AM
Most loot is junk that you can sell off.  I'm often too lazy to even take it to a vendor and just discard it.  Now, Romulan Ale?  Hold on to that for sure.  It's going for around a million ec per bottle right now, because everyone's trying to install a bartender on their starbase.

Sir T is right about the data samples ("minerals").  Crafting got nerfed and around the same time several other changes hit (like scaled rewards for missions) that made much of the rewards of crafting obsolete.  The samples themselves are still worth selling on the exchange, because there are several starbase projects that need them.  The rare materials, traces, are also valuable, both for starbases and to make mark xii consoles - not crafting per se, just duty officer missions that reward items.

Missions themselves don't reward cash, so for the first part of the game you are going to be poor in that regard, but you don't need it at this point either.  Bridge officers are plentiful, and you will eventually have a roster, a candidate roster, and even your inventory packed with them.  If you are like many, including me, you will be attached to your first crew, and be reluctant to trade them in for better officers.  The good news is that the difference between common and very rare bridge officers is very small, and you aren't gimping yourself at all holding on to whoever you are attached to.

To switch uniforms, first go to a tailor (there's one on the Space Dock) and set up your off duty uniform.  Then you can switch back and forth by right clicking on your character portrait. 

Yes, green is health and white is shields.  Ground combat at this point is shoot until dead, so don't over think it.  If you start playing on Advanced or Elite (I wouldn't recommend it while leveling) you need to take some care, but normal is a faceroll.  Always bring your bridge officers on your away teams, even with basic equipment they are tougher and do more damage than red-shirts.  Pro-tip:  your bridge officers perform exactly one action every three seconds, whether that is use an ability or pull the trigger once on their weapon.  So ignore the dps stat and equip them with high damage per shot weapons.  If you see a weapon that lists damage as something like 30x4, that means it does 120 per shot.  So it seems counter intuitive, but miniguns and full auto rifles actually have the best damage per shot because of this.

The minigame basically gives you more minerals if you succeed.  If you fail, you still get stuff, just not as much.

So your name is Name@Handle.  I need the whole thing if you want a fleet invite, but just the Handle if you want friend requests or mail sent to you.  I will absolutely drown you in gear all the way to max level once you give the word.

Mission logs come up using the J key.

It sounds like you are switching between shooter mode and rpg mode.  Shooter mode can be fun to mess around with occasionally, but it is really just a clunky patch-in that lets you "aim" instead of just "tab to target."  Even if you really like shooter mechanics in games, I'd leave it alone.  The one solid use I can think of for it is it lets you throw grenades wherever you want instead of directly at your current target.  You toggle back and forth using B, so if you were doing it accidentally, that might explain your difficulty on the ground.

You can change your bridge officers' appearance at the tailor the same as you can yourself, and the changes are per officer, so you can make everyone look wildly different or super-regimented.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on September 12, 2012, 06:53:14 AM
You can also use FPS mode for stuff like casting orbital strike at the ground, which is good for triggering enemies the other side of a forcefield so that your Mortars can start killing them. Not that I would countenance the use of such a blatant exploit.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on September 12, 2012, 10:09:12 AM
Ooh, I never thought of that one.  Nice.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 12, 2012, 07:49:25 PM
Thanks! I'm iffy on asking for gear yet -- or accepting it. One thing I've found is that while basically zooming alts up by slapping top gear on them is great, I kinda like the to try it the 'designed way' the first time. (Unless said way is just retardedly hard).

Currently I've got it on "normal" difficulty and I think I'll switch to tab targetting. As I finished a space battle yesterday I realized why having a rear and front firing arc was nice. It allowed me to keep blasting at some bigger ship while turning a failing shield away.

Which, in retrospect, was surprisingly tactical. (Not in the "genius move" -- there's nothing more of a no-brainer than "take the hits on the strong side" -- but in the 'more than just standing there wailing away).

My character's name is Jayna -- not sure what the handle is (will have to look it up). Will be happy to do group stuff once I've had more than an hour in the game. :)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 12, 2012, 09:37:11 PM
Wait, lockboxes drop that I have to buy keys for? I'm thinking shenanigans on that one.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: koro on September 12, 2012, 11:58:26 PM
Yeah, Cryptic loves their fuckin' lockboxes with random loot. Rubes Discerning players buy keys for them en masse to try and nab the rare drop ships they can have. If you haven't already, it's probably a good idea to go into your chat options and disable the pop-up that happens when someone wins a ship from one of the boxes. It doesn't happen nearly as much nowadays, but I can imagine that whenever Cryptic adds in a new box it'll be a madhouse of pop-up spam for a day or two.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: apocrypha on September 13, 2012, 12:18:53 AM
If you do decide you fancy one of the lockbox ships then don't buy keys and open boxes.

Instead turn dilithium into Zen when the price is low (it drops to 150 dil/zen sometimes) and buy keys and then sell the keys on the exchange and buy the ship with Energy Credits.

Chance of a ship in a lockbox is approx = 1/220.
Master Keys x 10 = 1275 Zen
Master Key x 1 = 1.0 - 1.4m EC on the exchange.

Cost of ships on the exchange varies, but I picked up an Orb Weaver for 40m EC just after they announced the end of the Tholian Lockbox (price went up to 60m within the next hour) and I'd seen them as low as 34m prior to that. At 40m you'd need to sell roughly 5000 Zen worth of keys. To get a 50% chance of a ship from opening boxes you'd need to open 154 of them, or nearly 20,000 Zen.

Yeah, if you get very lucky opening boxes you can get a ship much cheaper, but the odds aren't in your favour.

Edit: Forgot to say, the exchange is buggy though. When searching for anything *always* select the Quality of the thing you're looking for. E.g if searching for Master Key then select Common rarity, if searching for Orb Weaver select Very Rare, etc. Otherwise loads of items simply don't show up and you will overpay/overprice. Also listing keys seems to be very flaky. Often they just don't show up on the exchange when you post them yourself. Don't worry, they are there, they just might take a few days to show up. There's no listing fee or % cut so you can always cancel and re-list at any time.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on September 13, 2012, 03:34:24 AM
That's not actually correct. What you have to do is select the category of the thing you want. For example with the orb weaver you would select the "reward Packs" category and then put "Orb" in the search box. If you are looking for keys select the keys category, for ship weapons select the ship weapons, etc.

I actually got the recluse carrier with ECs and bought a bunch of the other special stuff from the exchange as well. Didn't get my hands on the Orb Weaver yet though, dunno if I will bother.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: 5150 on September 13, 2012, 04:41:15 AM
Just wanted to give you starbase owners a heads up about the special time limited projects.

If you find yourself unable to complete them within the time frame (unlikely for you guys I suspect) I appear to have discovered a bug where the queued one changes to the most recently released one when it becomes the active project.

I've petitioned but I fully expect the GM to tell me I'm shit out of luck on getting the missing one back despite the fact that I had it legitimately queued  :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on September 13, 2012, 06:49:12 AM
Yikes, good to know.  I've been dragging my feet on completing the latest one, even though I have the dilithium for it.

apocrypha is exactly right about the lockboxes.  DO NOT actually unlock them yourself.  You are much better off finding ways to make energy credits and just buying the things you want off of the exchange.  I got a recluse carrier and a d'kora just from selling mark 12 consoles.

I get that you may not want us to twink your characters, but if your hesitation is from inconveniencing us?  Don't worry.  I'm rich and I've been playing since beta.  It is trivially easy to equip you 1-50.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: apocrypha on September 13, 2012, 07:08:58 AM
That's not actually correct. What you have to do is select the category of the thing you want. For example with the orb weaver you would select the "reward Packs" category and then put "Orb" in the search box. If you are looking for keys select the keys category, for ship weapons select the ship weapons, etc.

Just logged on and tested this and either method works. If you don't specify a category or a quality when you search then the exchange returns only partial results, mostly missing out lower priced items for some reason.

Being able to select the item quality is helpful when you don't know what category you want, e.g. I had no idea what category to find Powered Alien Artifact in.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: 5150 on September 13, 2012, 07:53:29 AM
Yikes, good to know.  I've been dragging my feet on completing the latest one, even though I have the dilithium for it.

It's only an issue if you find yourself 2 projects behind the current one, if you're any further behind you'll lose projects simply because you won't be able to queue them anyway (not that queuing them has helped in this instance)

Our plan was to complete the active one and then queue the current one while we worked on the previous one, unfortunately when the queued one became active it changed into the current one and wiped the previous one out.

I fully expect this to happen on the other faction starbase shortly as well

As an aside, do we have any Cryptic/Perfect world devs here who I should point this bug out to?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 13, 2012, 08:16:34 AM
So what's the best thing to do with the three or four tholian lockboxes I acquired running some shapeshifting Vulcan mission? (Also, "survive until reinforcements arrive" sucks!) Sel them on the exchange?

I think I shot down that plasma ball of death like once.

I finally got another weapon..better torpedo launcher. I replaced my current one with it, but did consider replacing my rear phaser with the old torpedo launcher so my rear arc shoots missiles of death.

"Spacebar fires all phasers" was a useful tip to learn. I also worked out I can use the replicator to trash food for energy credits.

Picked up a tutorial memory alpha mission yesterday so I guess I get the crafting intro. :)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on September 13, 2012, 09:40:32 AM
Also, if you right click on your weapons on the weapons box they will turn green. That means that they are set to autofire. so if you hit the spacebar just once every weapon you have greened, including torps will begin firing on that target and keep firing as they cycle and the enemy comes into arc.

And I had to grin when read you complaining about not being able to shoot down the Undine Plasma. Just wait till you fight the Romulans and their rapid fire plasma torpedo launcher. Muhuhahaha!!

As for tholian boxes, you can toss them or keep them for 6 months till their value goes up. Selling them now will get you pennies as everyone has them.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 13, 2012, 10:14:17 AM
There is autofire? Seriously? That is useful information I did not previously have.

Ill toss the boxes into the bank with the crafting mats. :)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: apocrypha on September 13, 2012, 11:30:07 AM
There's autofire on the ground too - it's in Options, Controls, down the bottom somewhere. My personal preference is "Toggle, change cancels" but have a play and see what you prefer.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: 5150 on September 14, 2012, 12:24:33 PM
Does anyone know how you can sell unwanted bridge officers to reclaim their dilithium value?

You used to just be able to discard them but that no longer grants you the dilithium and the sell box is greyed out on the bridge officer vendor :-(


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on September 14, 2012, 02:41:33 PM
I don't think you can. You can sell them on the exchange but frankly there isn't much point.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 14, 2012, 05:51:38 PM
How does one get dilithium, anyways? :)

I just finished the crafting tutorial. Apparently to gain experience I need to...craft. Something something kits or schematics plus the odds and ends I have from scanning. I suppose it's "bring all your mats after you've collected a pile and do it all in a lump" sort of thing.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on September 14, 2012, 06:27:01 PM
Essentially yes. everything youcraft gets you experiance, the more valuable the better, but to craft something you need a certain level of crafting experience. But frankly dont bother learning, I learned before free to play before it cost Dil to craft stuff. if you want to you can craft stuff up to the level you need dil to craft stuff to see what its like go ahead.

YOu get Dilithium from certain missions and from late game special task forces, and from doing Duty officer missions. YOu can get it from doing the "explore strange new worlds" missiona nd doing the explore delta Volanis Mission. You can also do red alerts against the Borg.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: apocrypha on September 15, 2012, 01:32:46 AM
Good/easy ways to get Dilithium:

Officer Reports Daily mission - do 3 foundry missions (Fed search for "easy peasy", KDF search for "timebox").
Turn in Contraband DOFF mission - picked up from Security Officer NPCs on DS9/Earth Spacedock etc.
Daily Lore mission - from NPC on the academies. Answers here (http://www.stowiki.org/Lore).
Satellite Repair Daily mission in Traelus system, Eta Eridani. Mission available in your mission log.
Deferi Dailies - after completing the Breen episodes. Mission log again.
Explore Strange New Worlds - B'Tran cluster (Vice Admiral) best option along with "Chart the B'Tran Cluster".
KDF only: Pi Canis "Path of the Warrior" dailies. Fast, fun & repeatable for lots of dil.

And Borg STFs give dil - 480 for normal, 1100 elite (I think) each time.

Lots of DOFF missions give very small amounts and a few give 100 or so, which can rise on crits.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 15, 2012, 02:46:41 PM
Hey, I got 1440 dilithium today for doing some exploration. :) I can apparently refine it, but into what I don't know. As of right now, I'm saving it. Not sure I have much to spend it on at level 6.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 15, 2012, 04:39:38 PM
Question: My bridge officers, who are all rank 1 (I guess I can't train them higher until I'm more than a Lt) -- what's the deal with their skills? They can only have one ground and space skill at a time?

I can swap them out at the training guy, or later somehow teaching them stuff myself, or by using a 'recruit' to train them? And can I have spare bridge officers stored somewhere, and swap them around? Or just four active at a time? Oh, and when you train them with a new skill -- what happens to the points you already have assigned to them?

I'm trying to sort out what I want my guys to know and do. heck, I'm still sorting out myself -- I'm an engineer. I just switched from mines to turrets for my kit, because hardly anyone gets close enough for mines. I might switch back though. it does make charging people regret it.

And apparently you can balance your ship's power output -- I didn't realize I was set for attack sucking up so much energy. Explains why I'm cutting through foes but having to work frantically to keep shields strong.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on September 15, 2012, 04:57:00 PM
Ok. You get dilithium ore but you can only refine 8000 of it a day to real dilithium. Its a hard marker to avoid people just grinding all the way up on one character.

The reason you can only have one set of skills on your guys right now is that you are still Leutenant and cant promote them. As you advance you will gain the ability to promote your guys up. So when you hit level 10 you can set them to use 2 skills at a tike and so on.

The mines (or enemy neutralisation) kit is the most destructive of the engineering kits in stfs. Run up to bad guy, Plant mines where they are standing watch explosion. You also gain the ability to plant a bomb and to nerf their damage and speed. They use kinetic damage so the Borg cant adapt to it, but ts one 50% damage through shields. Turrets are good for now though.

Power is complex, but as an engeneer you will gain the abilities to increase the base power in each section as you go up levels and cruisers gain +5 power in all depts. To read fully about power check out the stowiki section on power and what the effects are. right now you could probably afford to drop auxiliary to minimum and arrange the rest.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 15, 2012, 09:06:28 PM
Got Duty Officers...that's an interesting system. I just assigned all 20 of them as best I could, to short term (less than 6 hours) stuff. See how it works out.

Any tips? (Also made more Dilithium with some running around scanning thing that was ongoing when I hit the Academy to get my officers)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on September 15, 2012, 11:32:23 PM
In regards to training bridge officer skills:

So, first you get a candidate.  These will show up on your candidate roster (hit K, right column) if you don't add them to your active roster, or if you don't have room to add them.  While they are candidates they are more easily movable.  You can mail them, or put them up on the exchange, or trade them.  Once they are active you can only trade them.  Another quality they have while they are candidates is to be able to train one of your active bridge officers in any skill they know.  This will consume the candidate.  This is only worthwhile if they have a rank three version of a skill, everything else they know you can get from the bridge officer trainer at ESD.  So whenever you get a new candidate, if you don't want to add them to your crew, and they don't have any rank 3 skills you want, it's pretty safe to delete them.  Once you make a candidate an active member of your crew, they can not be converted back into a candidate.  They can be traded or deleted, but not otherwise moved or stored.

If you get the trainer to give an officer a skill, it just costs energy credits.  Any time you train an officer, you overwrite the skill they knew before in that slot, and you lose any skill points you put into that skill.  This seems bad now, but as you progress in the game, you will eventually be swimming in expertise to train your officers with, to the point that you can switch skills out and train new ones to max level at will.  Gaining levels in certain skills unlocks the ability for you to train your officers in particular skills.  However, this only works within your area of expertise.  As an engineer, you will only be able to train your engineering officers.

Each of your officers can eventually know 4 ground and 4 space skills.  You can promote them each time you gain a full rank, every ten levels.  This will unlock one ground and one space skill.  Now, with ground skills, once you unlock a skill on an officer, they can use them all the time.  In space it works differently.  The station that you assign an officer needs to have a lieutenant slot in it in order for that officer to use their lieutenant level skill.  You can see how many slots your ship has by hitting K.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 16, 2012, 09:38:51 AM
So what's the best way to use the duty officer system? Or is it not a big deal? Seems like kinda of 'always on' generator of stuff. (money, experience, whatnot)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on September 16, 2012, 02:12:26 PM
Yeah pretty much.  Just keep fiddling with it and you will learn what and what not to do.  You can devote a HUGE amount of time to it, but it is really meant to be something to do on the side while actively doing other things.  That said, it's good to always be putting as many of your officers as possible on as many missions as possible all the time.  Especially at the start, just start plugging doffs into any assignment you can do.  Also, check at the Academy every few days and pick up any recruitment assignments that aren't on cooldown, so you can grow your roster.  There are Vulcan, Andorian, and Tellarite personnel officers scattered around the map, and a generic personnel officer in the northern building, all of whom give out these assignments.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 16, 2012, 02:55:38 PM
Did not know there were assignments for that. I thought it was either purchase through the store or get allotments at certain levels. Thanks.

I've been enjoying myself today. Got to fight Borg in a group (two tries, one success one failure...I keep thinking having your ship exploded is a bigger deal than it is). Tried the PvE queue and got to fight two instances of Klingons and got some decent upgrades for my ship. Did some quests....I'm enjoying the game overall. The bigger PvE events are fun -- all those starships zooming around, phasers and torpedoes flying. Has the right feel.

For some reason, my entire bridge officer crew is female. Weird.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: apocrypha on September 17, 2012, 12:00:46 AM
Yeah they've really got the feel of large space battles right I think. Great fun and often feels like total chaos :)

If you start to find yourself getting a bit deeper into the Duty Officer system then you may find this useful: http://bit.ly/DOFFS - it's a shared document listing what missions are currently available where. It's reliant on people sharing the info and editing the sheet, so it's not always 100% accurate, but if you start hunting down chains and rare assignments it can be very useful.

There's also an in-game channel, DOFFJOBS, that's a good source of info too. During US prime times it's full of unrelated chat so you may have to use the /ignore function judiciously ;)

For some reason, my entire bridge officer crew is female. Weird.

Oddly, female Boffs sell for more on the Exchange than equivalent male ones do...


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 17, 2012, 07:40:14 AM
I'm now a Lt. Commander and have a new ship -- Science vessel. (Chosen entirely because 1) I like having lots and lots of shields and 2) I happened to have two science officers). It's survivabilty is suddenly much, much higher. :)

Is there a way to dismiss bridge officers and store them? I've got four active, one queued for hire or training, and seeing the ship with two science slots --- what would I have done if I'd gone with the ship with two tactical slots? Fired a science guy?

The large scale battles are chaotic and fun. It's got a bit of a City of Heroes feel -- it's not the group mechanics type feel of a WoW dungeon boss, it's more "That's a lot of enemies" and sticking close for mutual support as you fight through them.

It is fun when you've got four or five startships together and you're basically zooming around, wolf pack style, and slicing through foes. Seeing one big Borg (or mirror universe ship) with five or six different Federation vessels diving in and out around it, while another half dozen are ripping apart reinforcements, is fun.

My second Borg mission I got flattened when the Borg boss blew up. I was way the hell too close and I was in a Centaur. When it blew, it went through what was left of my shields and vaporized me. A mechanic I actually like -- big giant explosions should hurt if you're too close!

I got a duty officer as a reward for a duty missions -- took me forever to find him, because he was in my Brig due to a terminal case of being Klingon. That was surprising.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on September 17, 2012, 08:31:29 AM
Once you have an active bridge officer, you can only delete them or trade them away.  I think once you hit rear admiral, you unlock one more active slot.  It's one of the few ways ftp really gimps you.  Before, you unlocked two slots each rank.

That LtC science ship is pretty fantastic.  It completely outclasses the cruiser at that level.  In fact, for leveling purposes, I'd avoid using cruisers until you hit admiral.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 17, 2012, 07:18:56 PM
The duty officer game is..interesting. I now have five passengers -- all civilians with no skills (no bartender or anything) that I can't seem to assign. Weird.

There's a lot there that could be explained a bit better.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on September 17, 2012, 07:31:18 PM
I agree with you on that one.

The passengers are effectivly components that can be assigned to special colony missions. Like "deport citizens to federation/klingon borders" and suchlike.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on September 18, 2012, 06:18:39 AM
The passenger list is pretty much where you store colonists.  They are technically duty officers, but they don't count towards your cap (only the passenger cap, which is 20).  Think of them more as commodities.  There is 'Relocate Colonists to Federation Borders' which uses them as a way to generate dilithium, and there are the colonial assignment chains.  These are a series of chained assignments that appear in each exploration cluster - the sectors where you scan anomalies and it generates random mini-missions.  Completing the chain gives you a unique rare duty officer for each cluster you complete it in, and unlocks a repeatable rare assignment that has the possibility of rewarding a very rare version of the doff you got for completing the chain.  These chains are definitely worth doing as the duty officers they reward are really good, and possibly your only source of rare/very rare doffs for a good while.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on September 18, 2012, 11:02:05 AM
To use passengers, look for colonial missions in the "exploration" zones. There's a chain up in each that ends in a blue Duty Officer reward and repeatable missions that reward swackloads of assignment XP.

Important hint: you can also find colonial assignment chains in the other side's exploration zones. As a Feddie, I can do them in Klingon areas, for example.

EDIT: So what Rishathra said. This is what happens when I don't notice the thread goes on for another page.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 18, 2012, 07:05:20 PM
A few more question: What are all these common goods I keep getting? And two, I have a cargo hold full of stuff that I know is in my bank. Does that mean I don't have to empty my bank of particles before running to Memory Alpha?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on September 19, 2012, 06:08:23 AM
The cargo hold is more of a pointer than an actual place.  You are looking at all of the commodities you posses in your inventory and bank.  I assume that is what you mean by common goods, stuff like provisions, medical supplies, industrial energy cells, things like that?  There are diplomatic missions in the exploration clusters that use them, and they are also used in several duty officer missions and starbase assignments.  Generally, it is easier to just replicate the ones you need than to actually store them in your bank/inventory.  The downside to replicating is that it is more expensive than buying from a vendor, but it doesn't really matter considering the small quantities you need in most applications.  I've only started collecting certain ones because of the large numbers you need for starbase assignments, but otherwise, it is easiest to just sell off the ones you have and replicate at need, to save on inventory space.

That being said, Bat Quadrant happily accepts any and every industrial energy cell you choose to donate.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on September 19, 2012, 08:52:37 AM
One thing as well, you can get medical hypos, Components and regenerators from Vendors. You would be surprised at the people who don't know that and think you can only get them from the exchange.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on September 19, 2012, 11:19:28 AM
Crafting and duty officer assignments that require materials automatically pull from your bank.  There's no need to empty it out.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 19, 2012, 04:03:26 PM
Crafting and duty officer assignments that require materials automatically pull from your bank.  There's no need to empty it out.
Now that is some sweet news. I'm tempted to buy more bank space as it is. I'm liking the game. Admittedly, I've come in after a lot of smoothing work has been done.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on September 19, 2012, 06:54:47 PM
Crafting and duty officer assignments that require materials automatically pull from your bank.  There's no need to empty it out.

In case it's ever relevant, they pull from the bank by preference. If you have some material X in your bank and in your inventory, and use some in crafting or a Duty Officer assignment, it will pull from the bank until that's empty.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 19, 2012, 07:02:02 PM
Is there an F13 fleet? I like doing the PvE stuff, and it seems a waste not to earn fleet marks.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on September 20, 2012, 12:41:28 AM
Something else I noted tonight: Duty Officer missions will NOT pull needed materials from account storage - only character storage. I imagine crafting would be the same.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on September 20, 2012, 05:47:37 AM
Is there an F13 fleet? I like doing the PvE stuff, and it seems a waste not to earn fleet marks.

Technically there is, but I'm the only one in it who plays regularly.  You are still welcome to join if you want.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 20, 2012, 10:33:51 AM
Is there an F13 fleet? I like doing the PvE stuff, and it seems a waste not to earn fleet marks.

Technically there is, but I'm the only one in it who plays regularly.  You are still welcome to join if you want.
What's the upsides of fleets? I know there are starbases now....can you put them together yourself, or do you need a sizeable fleet? (Fleets are just guilds, right?). Are solo fleets common?

I just realized I do stuff that can earn fleet marks in addition to what I am doing, but don't because I'm not in a fleet.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on September 20, 2012, 10:36:55 AM
I know there are starbases now....can you put them together yourself, or do you need a sizeable fleet? (Fleets are just guilds, right?). Are solo fleets common?

I doubt it's possible to get a base rolling as a soloer. I'm in a fleet of six, with 3-4 active players. We formed on July 20, and only got our base to tier 1 a few days ago.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on September 20, 2012, 12:41:40 PM
I see myself as able to eventually get everything to tier 2, but that's it.  I'm a day away from starting the Tier 2 Communications Array, which will open up the Tier 2 Starbase and Transwarp Gate projects.  The shipyard and industrial fabricator will come up in the next few months after that.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 20, 2012, 01:56:21 PM
You're doing that as part of the f13 fleet of one? :) let me know who to mail ingame to join. Bat country, right? :)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: MisterNoisy on September 20, 2012, 02:35:56 PM
Is there an F13 fleet? I like doing the PvE stuff, and it seems a waste not to earn fleet marks.

Technically there is, but I'm the only one in it who plays regularly.  You are still welcome to join if you want.

I'll try to be on more regularly, but between a week-long trip and Borderlands 2, play time may be somewhat limited.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 20, 2012, 02:48:17 PM
No hurry. Might make a one man fleet and toy around. I'm still futzing with the duty officer system. Now that I'm closing in on forty I'm thinking of trading five or ten for some uncommons.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on September 21, 2012, 06:42:09 AM
I need your full name@handle to send you an invite.  You don't need to be online.  I also have stacks and stacks of duty officer cadre packs if you want to boost your roster up.

And it's Star Trek, so Bat Quadrant.

Oh and for the record, I'm not trying to guilt anyone into contributing more.  I knew what I was getting when I formed a Bat Country STO chapter! ;)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 21, 2012, 09:37:36 AM
DDoesnt bother me. :) its not the best mmorpg, but its star trek and due to going so long with a crap computer I'm not quite as jaded on the genre. I can see that extended bank space and bridge officer slots are in my future, at a minimum. I managed to get a Ferengi bridge officer as a duty officer reward and want to use him. :)

I believe I'm janya@morat1 (charactername@account handle, right?)

As for duty officer packs, I have room for thirty or so officers at the moment and would be happy to get them. Other than that, I'm solid.

And I don't mind helping build a starbase. Just let me know how I can help!


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on September 21, 2012, 11:35:10 AM
And I don't mind helping build a starbase. Just let me know how I can help!

Dilithium.  But seeing as you are relatively new, you need it way more than the fleet does.  Common duty officers also help, but again, you're new, and just starting to build your roster.  Any uncommon astrometrics scientists you acquire will definitely be needed, so please keep an eye out for them.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 21, 2012, 11:48:36 AM
Will do. :) also industrial power cells, right? I've only got about 15k dilithium. About to hit commander and will probably need it to outfit my ship. Only level 18 now, about 80% of the way to 19.

What are fleet marks used for?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: MisterNoisy on September 21, 2012, 12:50:11 PM
And I don't mind helping build a starbase. Just let me know how I can help!

Dilithium.  But seeing as you are relatively new, you need it way more than the fleet does.  Common duty officers also help, but again, you're new, and just starting to build your roster.  Any uncommon astrometrics scientists you acquire will definitely be needed, so please keep an eye out for them.

I'm pretty sure I can help with that - I've got at least 3 or 4 of them in my roster already - how many are needed in total?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on September 21, 2012, 01:22:24 PM
What are fleet marks used for?

Just paying into fleet starship projects. You can get currency from them to buy shit from an in starbase store, but don't worry about that for the moment.

I'll add you to my friends list in game as well. My handle is @suranis. I haven't been playing much the last few weeks but I'm online when you are poke me and we can run some missions together.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on September 21, 2012, 02:03:26 PM
I'm pretty sure I can help with that - I've got at least 3 or 4 of them in my roster already - how many are needed in total?

20.  It will be about two weeks before that project will be up.  I want to get the starbase project done first.  When it's ready, I'll announce it.

Fleet marks are basically an input for starbase projects.  Anything you input into a project earns you fleet credits, which you use to buy stuff from the fleet store.  Fleet marks have the highest payback in regards to how many credits you earn, but everything counts.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on September 21, 2012, 04:06:08 PM
janya@morat1

Player not found.  I'm assuming morat1 is your login?  The ingame handle is different.  Which is stupid, I know.  It's a problem with the way Perfect World handles player accounts.

Edit: and yes, Industrial Energy Cells are good, and are needed in large supply for the starbase upgrade, which should be sometime next week.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 21, 2012, 05:06:09 PM
Typed it on my cell and screwed up -- jayna@morat1

Also, I have several green astrometrics officers. All I think assigned to my crew though..


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 21, 2012, 10:35:37 PM
Holy crap, the tier three science ship DOES suck. I went from damn hard to kill to...target practice with weak guns?

Admittedly I also jumped from "top of the lt. commander bracket" missions to "bottom of the commander" ones, but dang...

Plus, ugly as sin. i do like creating black holes -- except for the fact that it seems to draw aggro like crazy.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: apocrypha on September 22, 2012, 01:34:37 AM
Unfortunately science as a career is a bit lacklustre I find, and that tier of ship is where it really starts to become apparent :(

I actually ended up levelling my science character to about level 30 just from Doff missions. Switch to a tactical char, level the science guy without actually having to fly the useless ships, and revel in the sheer destruction the tactical ships can dish out.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on September 22, 2012, 04:54:08 AM
Yeah, soon you will realize the joy of half the science powers sharing a cooldown with each other, meaning that if you use one you start a 15 second cooldown with other ones. My favorite combination is Grav well, Tachyon beam and Energy Siphon, all 3 of which I would use all at once if I could. And Tychens rRft another mass screw you power. Tac guys whined incessantly about how OP science guys were so they were Nerfed hard. See also "Klingon ships are not OP, Fed ships are better its just the players are crap *ignores klings ripping feds apart*"

There's a reason a lot of sci guys fly carriers. The sheer joy of actually being able to dish out some damage...

Science however is pretty damn good on the ground, which is a good thing really.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 22, 2012, 08:50:28 AM
I'm actually an engineering guy. I just have two science bridge officers. Otherwise I'd be flying something else. (I have like four tactical guys on hand -- two saurians, an andorian and a human) and a Ferengi Engineer. I just can't use them withotu discarding the guys I have. :(

I'm planning on purchasing a bit of Zen for some more bank slots, might as well pick up an extra bridge slot and shove in a tactical guy, and an extra ship slot -- and maybe a ship.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 25, 2012, 06:33:57 AM
So do any of the Captain level ships stand out?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: apocrypha on September 25, 2012, 07:21:48 AM
The Defiant (http://www.stowiki.org/Tactical_Escort). Awesome, awesome ship.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on September 25, 2012, 09:08:45 AM
For an engineer the Exceslsior is probably the best, but needs zen to get

You can look at the stats on this page here http://www.stowiki.org/Playable_starship

Essentially the captain cruised is the Enterprise D. Powerful, but has the lowest turning of any ship in the game short of Carriers. The Science vessel is Voyager. The Escort is... well, an escort. Its the Defiant model.

Since you are forking over Dil as an FTP player at this point, you could keep saving it up and go for your admiral ship though,


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 25, 2012, 09:31:27 AM
I'm enjoying it enough I've considered a gold membership for three months or whatever they call it.

Currently thinking between defiant and voyager...I'm still iffy on how good subsystem targetting is. I've enjoyed the science vessels so far, despite how ugly the lt. Commander ones were. The lt version was a sweet ride. :)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on September 25, 2012, 09:41:20 AM
The Nova is one of the best ships for its tier in the game. Sadly its the best of the bunch. A lot of Eng captains do go for the Captain science vessel hoever as its a pretty maneuvrable piece of kit. If you are undecided between the sci vessel and the Defient, go for the Sci. While people rave about the Defiant I dont rate it that much. Its tough, but that's only compared with other escorts.

What the subsystem targetting does is the rank one tactical beam ability. This is the list for targetting weapons, but the rest are all the same.

http://www.stowiki.org/Ability:_Target_Weapons_Subsystems

Rank I: Ensign - Science Ships only    

    75% Weapon Damage
    -24 Weapon Power Setting
    20% Chance to Disable Weapon systems

Rank II: Lieutenant     

    75% Weapon Damage
    -32 Weapon Power Setting
    30% Chance to Disable Weapon systems

Rank III: Lt Commander

    75% Weapon Damage
    -40 Weapon Power Setting
    40% Chance to Disable Weapon systems

Its useful to have when you dont have to out it on a Boff skill


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 25, 2012, 07:46:24 PM
Jesus, is there a way to freakin' multi-select in your inventory? I appreciate how...sticky...buttons are (hard to accidentally drag icons off) but good lord. Putting away crafting materials takes forever one at a time!

I'm stuck on my crafting. I can craft a lot of low-level stuff, but can't craft the Captain level stuff -- not so much from lack of crafting skill, just not enough of a lot of the mats. I'm stuck doing level 3s and down -- it appears my last round of crafting simply tapped me out, when I built a lot of lt.commander level stuff.

Do your bridge officers auto-use skills in ground combat? Because if not, I need to see if I can drag their skills to my task bar for eash of use.

Also, tractor beams are nice. :) Finally got mine up with my new ship (Voyager-style) and holding an enemy still to absolutely hammer him is fun.

As for Bat Quadrant -- since I don't have anything else to do with fleet marks, I donate what I have at the end of the day. :)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: apocrypha on September 26, 2012, 03:32:55 AM
Yeah inventory management sucks a bit. There's no easy way to transfer items from bag to bank, you just have to tediously drag them :/

Do your bridge officers auto-use skills in ground combat? Because if not, I need to see if I can drag their skills to my task bar for eash of use.

They do use them automatically, just not very intelligently. If you put their skills on your bars then make sure to turn off auto-cast for those skills on the Boff bar itself (right click it, same as space skills autofire toggle).


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 26, 2012, 09:34:54 AM
I didn't realize I could turn on auto for those! I ended up removing the bridge officer windows from my GUI..

A few questions: are there bridge officer skills that can't be learned from the trainer?  And what's with the borg stuff on DS9? That endgame raiding equivilant?

And what's the deal with gold pressed latinum? I ended up earning some screwing around with dabo...


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on September 26, 2012, 11:27:54 AM
A few questions: are there bridge officer skills that can't be learned from the trainer?  And what's with the borg stuff on DS9? That endgame raiding equivilant?

And what's the deal with gold pressed latinum? I ended up earning some screwing around with dabo...

Yes, there are better skills that only appear on blue/purple Bridge Officers. When you get those guys, you can either add them to your staff or expend them to "train" one skill on to one of your existing officers. EDIT: Note also that training some of YOUR skills past a certain level unlocks the ability to train some high level BOff skills. For example, I ranked up medical skills, and was able to to train one of my science officers in some III-level healing skill.

GPL is largely worthless, IMO. You can get some holographic ship appearances (cosmetic only) and ship interior decorations from the vendor, and sometimes you see Trade Duty Officer missions that can swap 100-1800 GPL for commodities. Borg stuff is raid-equivalent, you'd have to ask somebody else for more because I don't.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on September 26, 2012, 11:55:45 AM
RE: Borg stuff.  Do special task forces.  These are five player missions that play like mini-raids, and generally only take 15 minutes to complete.  The ground ones take longer, though.  When you complete one, you get a 'token.'  Turn in tokens to get gear.  That's pretty much it.  Even if the missions aren't your thing, it is very much worth it to play a few missions and buy the borg engines, which only cost 5 tokens, and make travel much quicker.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: apocrypha on September 27, 2012, 01:41:17 AM
The tokens only come from Borg STF's though - I think level 44 or so is the minimum level to do them.

Be warned that the token exchange and vendor system for the gear is needlessly, stupidly confusing and that there's no way to get a refund if you buy the wrong thing. Be very, very careful redeeming tokens, make sure you're buying the thing you mean to buy!

I'm very underwhelmed by the new Temporal Lockbox/Lobi store ships. Nothing particularly interesting about them at all. Was hoping for a science ship with some real fire-power but no such luck. Plus the Mobius looks like a Rifter, which just makes me pine for EVE.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on September 27, 2012, 06:46:02 AM
On a purely aesthetic level, I really dig the Klingon timeships.  I will probably buy the mirror one when the prices come down.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 28, 2012, 08:49:54 PM
I poked through some of my boxes. Got two pink tholian duty officers, a console that shoots chain lightning (it's not what it's called, its' what it does) and some random Ferengi duty officers and whatnot.

Still have a ton left. I'm also contributing to the starbase -- I have no other use for fleet marks. Not much to do at the starbase yet, except be confused by the guy with all the tribbles.

Also, where do I get a horta? :)

Also, this game levels fast -- especially if you use duty officers and enjoy random group pve. I'm level 37 and I've not even completed the first episode's story.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on September 28, 2012, 10:59:12 PM
Combat Horta are crafted. The non-combat one is earned in one of the Reman arc episodes.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 29, 2012, 07:19:49 AM
Combat Horta are crafted. The non-combat one is earned in one of the Reman arc episodes.
I saw that, except I needed a baby horta or something to start the chain.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 29, 2012, 09:06:56 AM
How do you turn on auto-use of away team powers on the ground? By "powers" I mean "my flunkies" not mine.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on September 29, 2012, 09:10:37 AM
Huh. I had to load the game to see what you're talking about. The Horta Hatchling item is new - when I did this, that wasn't a requirement for crafting. I have no idea where you get one.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 29, 2012, 09:31:37 AM
Huh. I had to load the game to see what you're talking about. The Horta Hatchling item is new - when I did this, that wasn't a requirement for crafting. I have no idea where you get one.
Looked it up. You get it from a quest on the Romulan Front as an optional reward. (Mine Enemy).


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on September 29, 2012, 09:42:31 PM
How do you turn on auto-use of away team powers on the ground? By "powers" I mean "my flunkies" not mine.

They are on auto-use automatically.  You right-click them to turn auto-use off, and then the ability next to their portrait will turn red.

Edit: Also, I think I have an extra horta pet if you want it.  I'll leave it in the fleet bank.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 30, 2012, 07:29:15 AM
Ah, that explains it. I finally tried the ground fleet missions. Kinda fun, especially with competent people. My new kit might have something to do with that.

Turret, mortar, medical field generator...:)

I'm a full admiral now, only a few levels from my last ship.

And thanks for the horta! If you don't have it, no big -- I'll get to the proper mission for it rather soon anyways. (Should finish up the klingon arc today).


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Reg on September 30, 2012, 03:30:37 PM
You've gone from newbie to admiral just since the game went free to play, right?  How much money did you spend along the way?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 30, 2012, 05:13:06 PM
You've gone from newbie to admiral just since the game went free to play, right?  How much money did you spend along the way?
Hmm. I bought extra bank spaces once, and two extra bridge officer spaces. Those are about the only things I spent money on until, oh, a week ago when i decided I'd probably be hooked for a few months so I went ahead and paid for there months of gold and some frills (the TOS bundle was on sale!. I wanted me some old school Star Trek stuff).

I didn't buy any XP boosts or ships.

Now I'm level 50 and realizing I can't buy any new ships until Bat Quadrant's starbase gets a bit bigger or I spend real cash. (admittedly, I'm due enough real cash for a ship or two just from the gold sub).

Still haven't finished the first episode. Two more missions to go. The PvE stuff really levels you fast, and I enjoy it.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on September 30, 2012, 06:40:59 PM
FYI, so sick of being one-shotted by those fucking borg plasma thingies. Damn borg.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on September 30, 2012, 09:09:44 PM
Yeah, the borg torpedos are pretty damn uber. But there are ways around it...

Like Boarding patry 3, which cripples them

Jam them so they cant fire.

Target weapons subsystem 3, so they cant shoot anything.

Klingon carriers can train their power with power subsystem drones.

Just wait till you have the joy of fighting Cure Space Elite, which has borg Modified klingon vessels with All their abilities AND the borg modified weapons.

Try and get yourself a shield with plasma resistance at least.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on October 01, 2012, 05:54:21 AM
There are mirror universe cruisers in the fleet bank if you need one.  I can grab one of the MU science vessels if you prefer them.  And the shipyard is stocked, but the only non-money ships are the science and cruiser refits.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on October 01, 2012, 06:21:19 AM
There are mirror universe cruisers in the fleet bank if you need one.  I can grab one of the MU science vessels if you prefer them.  And the shipyard is stocked, but the only non-money ships are the science and cruiser refits.
I'll look. I'm always hesitant to take stuff from a guild/fleet bank -- stupid sense of fairness! :)

I was actually looking at the science and cruiser refits anyways. I've enjoyed the science vessels immensely, but considering trying out one of the other classes. It's not like I don't have the bridge crew to fly it anymore -- and even if I need a third tactical or engineering officer, I've got some ready and plenty of points to train them.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on October 01, 2012, 06:41:45 AM
Would you like the engineering or tactical focused science ship?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Furiously on October 01, 2012, 08:54:54 AM
They should make a "refit" item for sci, eng and tactical so you can fly any ship you want. I'd be tempted to fly the newbie ship.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on October 01, 2012, 06:17:52 PM
Would you like the engineering or tactical focused science ship?

Sorry. Today's my birthday. :) Just got home! I'll take a look at the ships online and figure it out. :)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on October 01, 2012, 07:42:51 PM
I snagged one. Will have to arrange a few more consoles -- picked Mirror Deep Space. Still a science vessel, but with two engineering instead of two tactical slots.

Actually pulled one of my rare engineers out of waiting duty and trained her up for it. I wish there was a way to pack bridge officers back up. As for duty officers, I had to quickly convert some more commons to uncommon to pick up a new one on the last round of recruitments. Went over 100.



Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on October 02, 2012, 06:13:23 AM
Last night, when playing PvE --- I think I either shot myself, or someone else shot me. Is there friendly fire? Because I was doing the "freighters running to the starbase" fleet thing, and I swooped down on a bunch of vessels attacking a freighter and fired off that isometric charge thing.

You know, the one that bounces from vessel to vessel? And I got hit by it.

So either it chained off of several vessels and then slammed me, or else someone else fired one and it slammed me, or the NPC attackers could either use that attack or one that looked exectly like it.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on October 02, 2012, 06:25:31 AM
Were they Klingon ships?  Klingon npcs use the isometric charge in those scenarios.  There's no friendly fire that I know of.

For bridge officers, it is my opinion that ships that lean too heavily in one area (basically having 3 bridge officer stations of the same type) are not as useful as those that spread it out some.  So by just having 2 of each type of bridge officer, you can effectively man any ship worth flying.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on October 02, 2012, 06:41:03 AM
And you can dismiss bridge officers you no longer want at will. Just go to their status page, and then down at the botom drop down list (where you promote them) you select dismiss and type out their name. And thats it, they are gone


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on October 02, 2012, 12:53:03 PM
It was klingons. I just got hit right after I fired mine off..so it looked like it bounced back to me. It was kind of a furball at that point.

Bridge officer wise I'm aiming for two of each type, all super rares. I'm not terribly attached to the ones I have.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on October 02, 2012, 01:05:32 PM
I have more very rare bridge officers than I know what to do with, like literally in the neighborhood of 100 or so.  Is there a particular flavor you are looking for?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on October 02, 2012, 06:46:08 PM
I have more very rare bridge officers than I know what to do with, like literally in the neighborhood of 100 or so.  Is there a particular flavor you are looking for?
I'd have to look. I think I have 4 of the six as it is. They're not exactly hard to come by.

I can see why some of the C-store ships are desireable. Two universal stations? That's...nice. Flexible.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on October 02, 2012, 07:32:44 PM
The excelsior is the best C-Store Cruiser, imo fast and maneuverable and tough, and the transwarp drive is awesome.

The Dreadnaught turns so slowly that its cannons are almost useless until you have figured out how to make it turn, and the Phaser lance is as accurate as a W Bush Budget. Great for pounding slow and immobile targets though.

The Galaxy is fun... once you separate the saucer and you get some maneuverability.

The Nebula is a Great Science-Cruiser Hybrid. And of course there is the Carrier, which loses the Sensor Analisis ability of the other science vessels but gains fighters. Its less tough and has less crew than the Klingon carrier though.

The Prometheus is the best of the Escorts in my humble opinion, partly because of the separation ability but mostly because of the Lt Commander sci slot. People rave about the Defiant though.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on October 02, 2012, 07:44:42 PM
What about the Odyssey? FYI, what duty officer race has telekinesis? Random aliens?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on October 02, 2012, 08:42:53 PM
Dominion Vortas do for certain, dunno about the rest. You get one as a reward when you do the 4th mission in the 2800 series (whos name escapes me at the moment) along with 2 Jem Hidar.

The Oddessy... How do I put this. Its a slow ass brick in space that cant turn to save its life. If you get the pack you might think "YES I can saucer sep AND use this defiant strapped to my back!" but, sadly, you can't use both at the same time, which is fucking stupid. I do see a lot of saucer sepping Oddessys on STFs though, and there's no denying its a great looking ship.

The big problem with it is that its firepower is not actually that impressive, and the reason for that is that Beam ships simply don't have the raw firepower of cannon ships. If you put more than 6 beams onto a cruiser your overall firepower drops because of the power drain. That's a huge reason Klingons rip the feds apart in PVP as they can all use dual cannons. I pretty much use dual beam setups on my ships now as I got sick of tickling things to death. The problem with that on the Oddessy of course is that it turns too damn slowly to get the things in arc (Even with the 45 degree forward cone) unless you separate the saucer, which works until you get blown up and then you are stuck on a cooldown till you can separate again. Also the Saucer sep takes up a console slot. And its mass is so huge that if you turn the ship at any kind of speed the ship can drift past the target.

That's a big reason I like the Excelsior, as it has the maneuverability to make a duel beam and turret setup effective. And to be fair a saucer sepped Oddessy probably does too.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on October 03, 2012, 06:10:33 AM
I see. Currently I'm working with a 2-1 phaser/photon setup (same in the back) and tend to go for broadsides from all four phaser arrays (usually in conjunction with a tractor beam) until the shields are down, and then swivel to fire off overpowered photon shots.

It seems to work okay. I haven't really tried much outside the beam array/photon setup. Considering swapping out my back photon torpedoes for something with more kick though -- transphasic or quantum torpedoes.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on October 03, 2012, 06:32:40 AM
I keep noticing something odd on the duty officer systems -- I'll go to take an assignment I have the personnel for (no red marks or boxes) and then I'll be...missing someone. Latest one was a chef.

Didn't show up under the first officer's recommendations. So I go unclick that, and the civilian tab is completely empty. So I go double check -- and I have a chef "on reserve", not on an active assignment. I'm pretty certain I didn't assign the chef to some other position on the same op, but I guess that's possible.

I've also got to take a closer look at my uncommons -- I've got a surprising number of scientists with "unscrupulous" or "aggressive" which are generally not the greatest traits in a scientist.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on October 03, 2012, 07:45:36 AM
As a cruiser, you want to put the low fire rate torpedoes in there for sure.  Photons are nice on an escort that can fire them constantly because they are always facing the target, not so much on the cruisers.  Your basic setup is otherwise a solid cruiser tactic.

I am saving up for the Regent, not for the ship itself, which I do like, but for that 180° torpedo launcher.  Maintain a constant broadside AND constant torpedoes?  Yes please.

As to the duty officer thing, I've noticed that some are bugged and occasionally won't show up on the selection lists for assignments.  Also, make sure it's a Fed duty officer, because the game lets you have Klingon faction doffs in your roster, it just won't let you use them for anything.  I'll send you an extra chef when I log in tonight, just in case.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on October 03, 2012, 09:52:00 AM
I use a klingon explosives officer all the time. I think he's klingon. I should double check.  I've been spending more than I should on duty officers and consolidating them into uncommons and starting to train up some rares. That has led to some..weirdieties I need to prune.uncrupulous scientists and way too mant advisors, not enough counselers and such.

Just need to t ake a bit and sift through it.

Fyi, what do you recommend for slow firing torpedoes fore and aft? Quantum, transphasic?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on October 03, 2012, 10:58:55 AM
Note when I say Klingon I mean Klingon faction.  Federation-aligned Klingons are kosher.  There used to be a bright red border around portaits that would tell you this duty officer is the wrong faction for you, but they got rid of that for some reason.  Check the background of the portrait.  It will have a Federation or Klingon Empire symbol.

For torpedoes - quantum, hargh'peng, or tri-cobalt if you know what you are doing and it fits your play style.  Not a fan of transphasic.  They used to be completely worthless, but they were buffed recently.  Now they just suck less.  Some people like chroniton for the snare.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on October 03, 2012, 11:23:00 AM
I can tell I'm gonna need at least an hour to scour through my duty officer lists. How does. Donating duty officers to the starbase work? They have to be unbound, right?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on October 03, 2012, 11:39:56 AM
Take a look at what the torps special effect is. Photons are basically rapid fire. Quantums are raw damage. Plasma set things on fire and make a bog glowing ball when you high yield them. Chronoton slow them down, Transphasic do more damage through shields. There's a rapid fire transphasic that you can get from the breen missions as well.

Oh yeah, and tricobalts are shit.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on October 03, 2012, 11:49:39 AM
Donating duty officers works like any other resource, just click on the donate button and a window will pop up allowing you to choose which ones to contribute.  They can be bound, just not the ones from Lt. Ferra.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on October 03, 2012, 12:28:44 PM
Oh yeah, and tricobalts are shit.

There is nothing finer than hitting High Yield, popping an engine boost, then diving straight at a Borg command ship and popping a Heavy Tricobalt as you pull away.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on October 03, 2012, 06:03:27 PM
I said screw it and filed a bug on it. Orion, Civilian, Chef. Not in sickbay. On reserve duty. Will NOT come up to assign. Weird. I've only got the one chef -- uncommon one at that!

I have got to go over my bridge officers skills. Hopefully tomorrow I'll have time to play a bit more.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on October 03, 2012, 08:11:25 PM
Are you sure the DOFFs (Duty Officers) are of your faction? Fed ones wont work for klings and vice versa.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on October 04, 2012, 06:22:06 AM
Are you sure the DOFFs (Duty Officers) are of your faction? Fed ones wont work for klings and vice versa.
Nope! It's not.

Dammit! All I did was check the character's race -- Andorian = Federation, right? Apparently not. Andorian = Klingon in this case.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on October 04, 2012, 07:00:12 AM
Huh, that's unusual.  I don't think I've ever seen an Andorian Klingon before, other than the ones you can buy from Marauding tiers.

Tier 2 Starbase finishes today!  Get your uncommon astrometrics scientists and fleet marks ready.  The transwarp gate project is up next.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on October 04, 2012, 07:49:18 AM
Don't think I have much left in fleet marks as I donated a ton, but have a four day weekend and plan to earn some more. ill check into astrometrics officers, but I don't think I can donate the dilithium purchased ones, right?

So what does the next tier of starbase get?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on October 04, 2012, 09:50:54 AM
The Tier 2 Starbase gets us bank access, and more importantly, our starbase no longer looks like a Hitachi Magic Wand!  It also opens up the bartender project, but I only have about half of the Rotgut and a quarter of the Romulan Ale required to complete that one, so I'm going to wait a bit before starting it.

The midterm goal is to get the Fabricator and Shipyard to Tier 2, so we can have a better selection of ships, and also open up fleet space weapons for purchase.  Long term, I'll just keep the stores stocked and inch slowly towards the Tier 3 shipyard, and then the Tier 3 base.  Beyond that, I think that'll be it, as even large fleets are balking at the Tier 4 requirements for stuff.

Are you remembering to do the Investigate Officer Reports daily?  That's 50 fleet marks and 1440 dilithium for like, 30 seconds of work.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on October 04, 2012, 11:16:01 AM
I have not done that one. I've seen it, but not tried it. I think I conflated that one with. The foundry events.

Send me a list of anything I should be holding onto instead of vendoring..or a link to a list. I'm sure its on the wiki somewhere.

Edited to add: oh, it is the foundry one. Must be three quick missions someone designed to be over fast. Wish you earned something for people playing your missions, as long as they had a certain minimum length


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: apocrypha on October 04, 2012, 11:36:40 PM
Wish you earned something for people playing your missions, as long as they had a certain minimum length

There is an option to give a Dilithium tip to the mission author when you complete it, I would imagine that authors of good missions do get some tips.

I give small tips if I do a real mission, not just the "run to the tailor" instant missions :)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on October 05, 2012, 07:21:25 AM
Run to the tailor?!?  Pffft.  Way too far.  I step outside the transporter room and click a panel once to complete three missions.   :awesome_for_real:

Now, there are some really amazing missions that people have made, and they are well worth doing, but if you're not at least doing the daily, that's money on the table man.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on October 05, 2012, 10:25:17 AM
I don't feel right doing those. I have to at least do Grand Negus' two-wave ship combat missions at Wolf 359 (search for "ufp distress").


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on October 05, 2012, 01:49:07 PM
I like those too.  They fill the 'short but still feel like you are doing something' niche well.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on October 05, 2012, 05:24:05 PM
I see we got a snazzy conference room. :) I've been throwing marks and what dilithium and other stuff I could spare into the projects. I like the starbase. Useful.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on October 05, 2012, 05:39:10 PM
There's finally SOMETHING THERE now.  It looked odd that there was this room with basically nothing in it.  I'm hoping that the special projects will eventually extend to the starbase exterior as well.  Unlocking maps and stuff like that, so we could have the starbase orbiting a planet instead of being in the middle of nowhere for example.

If you haven't looked yet, you need to check out the ground equipment at the fleet vendor.  There's actually some really good stuff there.  I also forgot to mention that another perk of the tier 2 base is you can now buy uncommon duty officers.  They are random, but they pull from the reinforcements duty officer roster, so there are a bunch of new abilities.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on October 05, 2012, 05:46:17 PM
I grabbed some, actually. :) I really need to get the top-end engineering kit (the fabrication one with III's across the board. I've got the one step down one).

Most of the rather awesome stuff on the vendors was too pricey at the moment.

Also, what the hell is "tribble breeding"?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on October 05, 2012, 05:59:18 PM
Once you start doing STFs you can buy Mark X requisitions for 5 edcs or 1 rare borg salvage, and that will net you a Mark X kit.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on October 05, 2012, 06:37:55 PM
Once you start doing STFs you can buy Mark X requisitions for 5 edcs or 1 rare borg salvage, and that will net you a Mark X kit.
I've actually got 4 edcs right now. I accidentally did an elite Borg mission this morning. And did one on purpose (not elite!) latter today, just to get a feel for them.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on October 05, 2012, 07:29:33 PM
Don't waste the edcs.  Get one more for the Borg engine.  Your kit is in the bank.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on October 05, 2012, 08:31:28 PM
Don't waste the edcs.  Get one more for the Borg engine.  Your kit is in the bank.
Ack! Too late! I actually got quite a bit. Armor, phaser rifle, kit....I was mostly working with the edc system. I've still got a few, but I already bought the kit before I checked here.

I get...deeply confused on Borg missions, though. Kinda hard to tell what's going on at times, and I think I need a better keyboard layout. I die way too much - -mostly because I can't hit the shield batteries or hypo easily (and they're small ones, and I need bigger ones).


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: apocrypha on October 05, 2012, 10:30:47 PM
Also, what the hell is "tribble breeding"?

Tribbles + rare food = rare tribbles.

Tribble Breeding (http://www.stowiki.org/Guide:_Tribble_Breeding)!


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on October 06, 2012, 07:15:27 AM
So I grabbed that kit and an omega body armor and rifle -- question, what's better? MACO or OMEGA stuff? Or is it just dependent on playstyle?

The warp 14 warp engine looked nice for space, though.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on October 06, 2012, 10:23:55 PM
MACO is defensive, Omega is dps.  Both are good at their respective categories.  The ground stfs are also a bit more unforgiving when it comes to pugs/inexperienced players, and they take much longer to complete than the space ones, even if you know what you are doing.  So for purely edc earning purposes, I recommend Cure and Infected space.  That said, I have a lot of fun in the ground ones, especially when you put together a ground set.  Instant remodulation is  :drill:.

Regarding space sets, MACO is waaaay better than Omega.  The shield alone is a beast, and the engines break the warp 10 barrier, which helps in sector travel a lot.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Strazos on October 07, 2012, 05:01:07 AM
Hmmm...haven't played this for quite some time - since before it went F2P.

I guess it's perhaps worth patching up and getting back into? I think I stopped somewhere around the time that I got access to the Defiant-class ships and was trying to figure out how to make people melt most-quickly in PvP.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on October 07, 2012, 07:43:47 AM
The differentse between Maco and Omega ground sets is simple. maco Gives more protection, has a shield heal secondary poer and give you a defensive field effect on you alone. It also has a far better gun

The Omega gun is junk and its protection is not brilliant. But it gives a dodge bonus natively and here is the important thing. It cases a field that at mark X Increases the dodge of everyone in the team, Mark XI increases the dodge and Chance of critical hit, and At Mark XII gives a bonus to Dodge, crit hit and damage. And the good thing? Its cumulative, so the effect increases with every guy that has one on the team. So if you have 3 guys with Omega sets the Borg just get mown down, and your team survives better. Frankly after 100s of STFs I never use Maco anymore and the first thing I look at is how many Omegas we have on the team. You can tell but the amount of tactical readiness fields you see beside your status. If I see 3 fields I know we are going to have a good run.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on October 07, 2012, 09:27:58 AM
So get Omega for ground, but use a different gun unless doing a STF?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on October 07, 2012, 10:10:37 AM
Well, the field is the 3 piece power so  :grin:

Besides, you have another gun slot, and you don't have to be holding the gun for it to work, just have it equipped. And its actually not too bad, its just that borg adapt to it quickly. But whenever this topic comes up every says "the Omega is bad becasue THE GUN SUCKS!!"

I will say that a guy I know was testing the Mark XII fleet armour and he got murdered. We had a look and it turned out that he was just so used to the dodge bonus that the slightly better protection offered didn't matter.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on October 07, 2012, 05:04:20 PM
So I kept trying to figure out how to feed food to tribbles. It turns out, I can just leave them in my bank account with food. So, you know, apparently I'm gonna breed tribbles now. :)

I hate retraining officers to new skills -- swapped out tachyon beam for energy siphon and it screwed up my entire task bar.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Ironwood on October 09, 2012, 05:12:21 AM
Did you watch the episode ?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on October 09, 2012, 05:55:08 AM
The task bar used to be much worse.  Any single change you made to a skill or bridge officer assignment, would completely scramble the task bar.  Now, it kind of works like a Tivo.  It still scrambles everything the first few times, but it eventually learns not to fuck everything up.  Over time, it will even remember the layouts of different ships.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on October 09, 2012, 07:14:57 AM
I actually have mine on the 3 layer format now. It seems to hold things better that way.

Anyway Q&A on season 7

http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=705951

TLDR Hey guys you know what the game really needs? Yes, ANOTHER SET OF REPUTATION THINGIES YOU GET TO GRIND FOR!!! Aren't you excited yet?

Hint, no.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on October 09, 2012, 05:12:48 PM
So what are deployable turrets? I saw an option to craft them.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on October 09, 2012, 05:23:44 PM
Just a device that creates a turret when used. Baslcy spawns a turret you kick out the back and which sits there and shoots stuff. Lasts for 5 minutes. Some have charges and can be used for a certain amount of times, some are one use.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on October 09, 2012, 06:16:04 PM
Hmm. Might get some sometime.

Also, my tribbles have stopped breeding. I culled out the low-level ones (down to 2 tufs and a green one I made), and there's plenty of drink and food, but they haven't spawned in the last 24 hours.

There's not like, I dunno, a maximum number of times it can reproduce is there?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on October 09, 2012, 06:19:11 PM
The same thing you can get through Duty Officer missions (Espionage: Steal X Prototype or Diplomacy: Purchase X Prototype, followed by Engineering: Assemble X From Prototype). Except you can only craft phasers, while there are Duty Officer prototypes for every type of weapon in the game.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on October 09, 2012, 07:55:43 PM
Hmm. Might get some sometime.

Also, my tribbles have stopped breeding. I culled out the low-level ones (down to 2 tufs and a green one I made), and there's plenty of drink and food, but they haven't spawned in the last 24 hours.

There's not like, I dunno, a maximum number of times it can reproduce is there?

Once you get to a certain level their tastes become more refined. There's several charts out there.

The big thing to realize is that once you have an advanced tribble you HAVE to feed it the specified food to get the next one up the chain. Otherwise it just sits there.

Heres the chart I use

http://www.stowiki.org/images/1/1c/Tribble_Breeding_Chart.png



Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: 5150 on October 10, 2012, 04:27:39 AM
Hmm. Might get some sometime.

Also, my tribbles have stopped breeding. I culled out the low-level ones (down to 2 tufs and a green one I made), and there's plenty of drink and food, but they haven't spawned in the last 24 hours.

There's not like, I dunno, a maximum number of times it can reproduce is there?

Once you get to a certain level their tastes become more refined. There's several charts out there.

The big thing to realize is that once you have an advanced tribble you HAVE to feed it the specified food to get the next one up the chain. Otherwise it just sits there.

Heres the chart I use

http://www.stowiki.org/images/1/1c/Tribble_Breeding_Chart.png



Does anyone know if they stopped Tribbles breeding in Bridge Officer inventories? I've been trying to force feed Ketracel white to several Tribbles for ages now in my Bridge Officer inventories but none of them have consumed it yet, and thus I am without the Gamma Tribble :-(


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on October 10, 2012, 07:21:06 AM
I;'ve never tried it, but I think I remember reading they removed it yeah. Besides, Bridge officers will use food stored in their inventories.

Anyway its not that hard. Just leave a trib in your inventory with some ketracel and it will pop up.

Moving on to actual STO news, they are changing the way lifetime Subs work

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Not only are we having a sale on Lifetime Subscriptions from now until Monday, November 12th, at noon PDT, but we are also adding a new benefit to the program.

Starting tomorrow, after overnight maintenance is complete, all current and future Lifetime Subscribers will gain instant access to all Veteran Rewards, regardless of purchase date! This includes the 1000-Day ships that were introduced in this blog.

Now is the perfect time to pick up a Lifetime Subscription to STO so you can play forever as a Gold Member and never pay a monthly subscription fee again!

For information on how to claim and use your Veteran Rewards, click here.

Have to admit I'm tempted... if I had the money which I dont :P


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on October 10, 2012, 07:26:47 PM
The fuckers finally reproduced! I now own three green tribbles. I am way more excited than I should be. :)

Also, I realized I could visit more of the ship than the bridge and started making photon and disrupter turrets. And a performance of hamlet, for reasons I am uncertain of. :)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on October 10, 2012, 07:52:51 PM
As long as it's not the Scottish play.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: apocrypha on October 10, 2012, 10:51:10 PM
And a performance of hamlet, for reasons I am uncertain of. :)

Critical successes get you an appropriate purple Doff :)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on October 11, 2012, 05:55:37 AM
And a performance of hamlet, for reasons I am uncertain of. :)

Critical successes get you an appropriate purple Doff :)
Man, I barely succeeded as it was -- I guess you need a lot of well suited blues for it. Or luck.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on October 11, 2012, 04:00:33 PM
I have "Hamlet Prince of Denmark" as a Doff. He's a klingon with a twirly moustache  :drill:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on October 11, 2012, 04:10:49 PM
I have "Hamlet Prince of Denmark" as a Doff. He's a klingon with a twirly moustache  :drill:
I'll get him sooner or later. I need to get started on the exteme drinking one -- only have the one bartender though. A blue, however! :) as it is I spend a good hour playing "tour the galaxy" when I log on, trying to finish up a bunch of chains...


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on October 11, 2012, 04:12:33 PM
Finally reinstalled and logged in last night. Saw a guy in full Omega Force gear.

I want it.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on October 11, 2012, 05:19:57 PM
The Mark XII Omaga actually very very sweet looking. The Klingon Honor Guard on a Gorn though is bloody fantastic. They extend the helmet to fit in the snout, and it has a swirling cape of JUSTICE!!

If anyone wants to friend me for STFs or watever you can friend Suranis@Suranis. I have 8 chars though, one for every occasion :)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on October 11, 2012, 06:23:53 PM
I have...one character. But that character can place turrets and loves STF missions.

Except the Cure (Ground). Because fuck that last boss, that's why.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on October 11, 2012, 06:46:19 PM
Got a Fed VA, Captain and a couple of LTs, and a Kling Captain.

I'll do STFs as well.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on October 11, 2012, 08:00:21 PM
I gotta get my hands on more refugees.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on October 12, 2012, 05:21:47 AM
Also, I made new tribbles using SCIENCE!

edited to add: Seriously? The set bonuses don't work unless they're ALL Mark X or XI? Goddammit! (I have a Mark X armor, Mark XI PSG and weapon for the Omega set and I'm getting the 2/3 bonus, not the 3/3. On the bright side, I got all that through finding the appropriate salvage pieces so I guess I'll just do Khitomer ground until I get a rare Armor salvage....or enough EDC's.)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on October 13, 2012, 11:33:26 AM
So what's the transwarp gate upgrades do for the starbase?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on October 13, 2012, 07:28:07 PM
It sets up the Starbase as a transwarp destination so you can jump to it from anywhere. Very useful when the base has all the bells and whistles so you dont have to go back to ESD. As a bonus, when you warp out of the area you emerge back where you came from originally


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on October 13, 2012, 07:29:47 PM
It sets up the Starbase as a transwarp destination so you can jump to it from anywhere. Very useful when the base has all the bells and whistles so you dont have to go back to ESD. As a bonus, when you warp out of the area you emerge back where you came from originally
That's pretty nice. :) I now have two Gamma Quadrant tribbles and a pair of blue tribbles. So that's going well. :)

Still trying to force a Rare Borg Armor Tech to drop. Stupid set bonuses set up by morons. So sick of remodulating weapons every 10 seconds.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on October 13, 2012, 07:43:44 PM
What I did was get a mark X set together with 60 odd EDCs and use that till the rares drop. Mark X maco is good for survivability but you can go for the Mark X omega if you want. Since you already have an X piece that means you only need 40 EDCs, or 20 elite space stfs.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on October 13, 2012, 08:02:36 PM
What I did was get a mark X set together with 60 odd EDCs and use that till the rares drop. Mark X maco is good for survivability but you can go for the Mark X omega if you want. Since you already have an X piece that means you only need 40 EDCs, or 20 elite space stfs.
I have the XI shield and gun. I have the X armor. I think it's cheaper to save up the EDC to get the XI armor.

Just a matter of which salvage dropped. My one real big bitch about the PvE queue is that you can queue for the wrong thing really easily. I'm not sure how, but it seems like when you open it there's already something selected and it's not always what's highlighted. Or maybe I highlighted and didn't click.

Suffice to say, I've queued for elite STF stuff on accident several times -- and it's ALWAYS the same queue. (It only changed when I got access to more pve stuff).


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on October 13, 2012, 08:10:03 PM
Never happened with me. I would advise against pugging though. Theres a public channel called PublicEliteSTF that has reasonably OK players on it and you can get invited on for elites or whatever.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on October 13, 2012, 09:46:34 PM
I've got a full set of XI shit, still looks the same as standard gear, I want the unique look, goddammit.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on October 13, 2012, 09:48:57 PM
To get the cooler looking armour. You have to go to a tailor. On the top right hand corner there will be a drop down menu. One of the Options will now be "Omega" or "maco" Select one and you will swap to the new armour

The mark XII is better looking and you get to change your head into a helmet, but its a start.

{edit} Spelling


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on October 15, 2012, 10:58:31 AM
So what's the transwarp gate upgrades do for the starbase?

The first one did as Sir T said.  The one that just completed added new destinations if you use the gate from the starbase: Risa, Gateway, and Regulus.  As far as I can tell, you can transwarp to the starbase and then immediately warp to these destinations from there.  There isn't a shared cooldown.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on October 22, 2012, 06:43:51 PM
So what's the plan with the Starbase? How are things going? I just sorta...donate to whatever projects are up, but I can't actually see what choices you have and stuff. Just what's active.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on October 23, 2012, 06:14:24 AM
So, each category has the same set of projects.  There is a provisioning project, a buff project, an operational asset project, and an xp project. 

The xp project gives 1000 xp and nothing else (all the others give 500 xp and something to the store inventory), and also requires a large amount of duty officers, so I don't run them too often because it takes a while to build up my doff population.

The buff project stocks the store with temporary buffs that you can use any time I think, but the requirements are VERY specific.  It asks for 30 each of two specific duty officer professions, and that is too much of a pain in the ass to supply for a small fleet like ours.  My Klingons are in a 500 member fleet and those assignments still take days to fill up.  The operational asset projects are the same except the buffs can only be used in fleet specific missions, like the starbase defense missions.  Actually, I might be mixing up the buff and operational asset projects, one is easily affordable, and I set up regularly, the other is as described.

The provisioning assignments stock the store with items.  Engineering supplies ground armor and weapons, Science supplies ground shields, and Tactical supplies ships.  I'm avoiding doing any more of these at the moment (although the store is still stocked so have at it) because the current tier missions give 5 requisitions and cost 60k dilithium, and the tier 2 missions give 15 for 40k.  I'm stretched thin on dilithium as it is, saving up for the bi-weekly special projects while still contributing some to other projects.  I don't do the ship provisioning one much anymore because we have plenty as it is.

The goal is to have everything at tier 2, which will happen relatively soon.  The tier 2 fabricator will unlock space weapons, so I will then start projects that will provision those.  The tier 2 shipyard unlocks.. nothing terribly noteworthy, but more choices of ships to buy is still a good thing.  After that, there's no real plan, other than to keep everything as stocked as I can, and to work steadily towards tier 3 on at least one category, so I can upgrade the starbase to tier 3.  This is a very long term goal however.  The tier 3 fabricator unlocks elite fleet weapons and armor, the array unlocks elite fleet shields and the transwarp gate upgrade, and the shipyard unlocks more ships.  If there is a particular category that appeals to you guys, let me know and I will focus on it more.  Again though, very long term.  We won't get there any time soon.

Right now, we need Romulan Ale for the bartender.  After that completes we will be done with any special upgrades until tier 3.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on October 24, 2012, 10:16:27 AM
I'll..hope for Romulan ale. I actually need some of that for an assignment chain, but it can wait. :)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on October 27, 2012, 04:13:26 PM
They are hyping up season 7 at the moment. Essentially the big change is that you wont get your STF gear from random drops anymore. YOu will get it by basically doing personal starbase missions for "reputation points" that you can cash in to get various powers and stuff, and you will be able to buy the elite STF gear when you hit Omega level 5.

Essentially, rather than grinding for them you will now have to GRIND FOR THEM FOR MONTHS

Sad to say but I'm getting less enthused. I love the overall feel of the combat but the rest of the game is turning into a dilithium sink and grind fest.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on October 29, 2012, 06:51:22 PM
Ugh, I'm still saving up for the engine. I have the Omega XI ground set, but just the XI Maco Shield for my ship.

I'm considering getting another ship too. Haven't decided what. Fleet refit, I'd imagine, when the starbase gets there. Maybe a tactical vessel. Not a science vessel -- already have two of those (Mirror Universe and the regular top-end one).


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on November 13, 2012, 09:42:55 AM
Season 7 is here today!

Big things, now area, you can do missions on New Romulus, Reputation system (Oh goody you can now do fleet projects for yourself. Hold me back)

Also, Dilithium generation just got a big fat kick in the nuts. ITS TIME TO GRIIIIIIND!!!

If you want to read the good stuff and sob quietly, here are the patch notes. http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=6522551#post6522551

I really really like the gameplay of this game but its turning into grind central for even me.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on November 13, 2012, 11:06:39 AM
"The Dilithium reward has been removed from the Chart the B'Tran Cluster, Vice Admiral - Daily, mission."

EDIT:

The "General Recruitment" assignment available on both faction Academy zones has been altered:
    Duration increased from 20 hours to 48 hours.
    An input cost of 1000 Dilithium has been added.


BOOOOOOOOOOOO.  :mob:

These changes hamstring the very few ways small fleets can get by with the Starbase system. Seriously, my fleet of eight is STILL trying to scratch our way to Tier II.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on November 13, 2012, 11:56:56 AM
They designed the Starbase system with the old Dil generation and then they took an axe to it. This update looks like it was designed by the designers of the NGE. I've been watching the STF channels look on in horror. Would you believe they actually had Dil as part of the price for the reputation system till everyone and their aunt screamed at them?



Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on November 13, 2012, 01:12:09 PM
Yeah, now that my easy fleet mark generation has been taken away,  Bat Quadrant's starbase is going to slow down its progress some.  The good news is I only have the tier 2 shipyard to complete at this point and I'll be able to do that off of stockpiles.  I'm worried how much of the embassy I'll be able to upgrade though.

I like the stuff that's been added, but they've gone a bit overboard with the dilithium choking.  Removing dilithium earning activities and adding several new dilithium sinks at the same time is pretty shitty.  Doffgrinding is effectively dead now.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on November 13, 2012, 03:58:26 PM
What did they nerf, Fleet Mark wise? I never even noticed the dilithium costs of recruitment missions.

OTOH, I have a pretty active doff setup -- just hit T4 development. :)



Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on November 13, 2012, 11:05:13 PM
They removed the "press a button, get 1400 dil" foundry abulity. but that also came with 50 fleet marks. So now you have to pug with idiots to get 19 odd fleet marks. Boo hiss.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: 5150 on November 14, 2012, 04:38:14 AM
Steam has a new STO pack (60% off until tomorrow) which appears to come with 2 unique bridge officers and 2 unique escorts (one tier 1 and a tier 5 refit) and a few other bits and pieces - federation characters only though


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on November 14, 2012, 06:26:12 AM
They removed the "press a button, get 1400 dil" foundry abulity. but that also came with 50 fleet marks. So now you have to pug with idiots to get 19 odd fleet marks. Boo hiss.

On the one hand, I understand that clicking a button for 1440 dilithium and 50 fleet marks is maybe a bit too easy.  On the other hand, I really liked it.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: 5150 on November 14, 2012, 06:32:45 AM
They removed the "press a button, get 1400 dil" foundry abulity. but that also came with 50 fleet marks. So now you have to pug with idiots to get 19 odd fleet marks. Boo hiss.

So they nerfed the investigate officer reports mission as well?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on November 14, 2012, 06:50:07 AM
Yup.  They made it so that only missions with an average play time of TWENTY :ye_gods: minutes count for Investigate Officer Reports.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Zetor on November 14, 2012, 06:59:18 AM
Not taking a side in this (esp. since I don't even play) - but regarding the Foundry, are/were people playing any of the player creations other than the "click this to receive daily reward" one?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on November 14, 2012, 07:06:37 AM
Steam has a new STO pack (60% off until tomorrow) which appears to come with 2 unique bridge officers and 2 unique escorts (one tier 1 and a tier 5 refit) and a few other bits and pieces - federation characters only though

It says you have to have ST:O through Steam to play then says you redeem the code on Star Trek Online. I wonder if it is worth it for 2 uncommon quality bridge officers, a title, an xp boost and 2 Escort ships that look kind of cool admittedly.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: 5150 on November 14, 2012, 07:11:47 AM
Steam has a new STO pack (60% off until tomorrow) which appears to come with 2 unique bridge officers and 2 unique escorts (one tier 1 and a tier 5 refit) and a few other bits and pieces - federation characters only though

It says you have to have ST:O through Steam to play then says you redeem the code on Star Trek Online. I wonder if it is worth it for 2 uncommon quality bridge officers, a title, an xp boost and 2 Escort ships that look kind of cool admittedly.

The purchase just gives you a[nother] CD key in Steam use activate on the STO web site (can be used against an existing account or a new one, you'll get more mileage out of it if you're new though). Since STO in Steam is free to begin with I cant see that being a show stopper if you want this


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on November 14, 2012, 09:25:39 AM
Steam has a new STO pack (60% off until tomorrow) which appears to come with 2 unique bridge officers and 2 unique escorts (one tier 1 and a tier 5 refit) and a few other bits and pieces - federation characters only though

It says you have to have ST:O through Steam to play then says you redeem the code on Star Trek Online. I wonder if it is worth it for 2 uncommon quality bridge officers, a title, an xp boost and 2 Escort ships that look kind of cool admittedly.

The purchase just gives you a[nother] CD key in Steam use activate on the STO web site (can be used against an existing account or a new one, you'll get more mileage out of it if you're new though). Since STO in Steam is free to begin with I cant see that being a show stopper if you want this

The point is I already have STO, just not through Steam. *shrugs*


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: 5150 on November 14, 2012, 09:27:51 AM
Steam has a new STO pack (60% off until tomorrow) which appears to come with 2 unique bridge officers and 2 unique escorts (one tier 1 and a tier 5 refit) and a few other bits and pieces - federation characters only though

It says you have to have ST:O through Steam to play then says you redeem the code on Star Trek Online. I wonder if it is worth it for 2 uncommon quality bridge officers, a title, an xp boost and 2 Escort ships that look kind of cool admittedly.

The purchase just gives you a[nother] CD key in Steam use activate on the STO web site (can be used against an existing account or a new one, you'll get more mileage out of it if you're new though). Since STO in Steam is free to begin with I cant see that being a show stopper if you want this

The point is I already have STO, just not through Steam. *shrugs*

Ah I'm with you now, I don't think you'd need to have it installed through Steam to make the purchase as I would expect the game to appear in your Steam library once you make the purchase which is all you need to access the key


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on November 14, 2012, 09:36:03 AM
Not taking a side in this (esp. since I don't even play) - but regarding the Foundry, are/were people playing any of the player creations other than the "click this to receive daily reward" one?

I did occasionally, yeah. Most people were too busy chasing dil to bother though.

Anyway, looks like Starbase 24 and Gorn Minefield are now providing Dil for your needs.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on November 15, 2012, 12:13:10 PM
Patch today restored dil from stfs, but at a lower amount than previous. And broke private instances and the foundry...

The new stfs are hella fun though. I did into the hive space normal yesterday and someone said "I thought this was normal" and I said "This is normal. if it was Elite all those cubes would be Tactical cubes"  :why_so_serious: The ground mission against the borg queen is a lot of fun as well.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on November 16, 2012, 06:23:42 AM
I played some yesterday. I was going to contribute some materials to the fleet projects but it more or less just sat there saying transferring until I got annoyed and canceled out of it.

I ran into an annoying bug where my BOFs and 1 of my weapons got removed during a space battle and I got my ass handed to me. Then I had to figure out a workaround to get my BOFs back at their stations. Highly annoying. Also, Romulans suck to fight at anything other than normal difficulty because of their damned plasma torpedoes.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on November 16, 2012, 06:30:58 AM
I keep forgetting that they put those in there.  I have to try them.  They sound fun.

I was worried about the time gating of the reputation system, but the good news is that actual progression through it is easy.  I did just one Elite STF last night and earned enough marks to get to tier 1 Omega rep.  It's the same for the Romulans.  The daily wrapper mission for doing patrols in the new sector (which are themselves a lot of fun) alone was enough to get me to tier 1.

One of the things that has made me enjoy STO so much over the years is that they've always been good at adding little touches here and there which enhance the authenticity of the setting.  For example, the mission contact for the daily missions in Tau Dewa sounds EXACTLY like a Romulan female should.  The voice actress nailed the inflections, accent, attitude, etc.  She sounds exactly like someone who was traditionally an arrogant xenophope, laid low by her empire's collapse, struggling to rebuild her civilization, knowing she needs outside help to do it, reluctantly accepting yours and reluctantly grateful for it, while still maintaining her haughty pride.  Mind you, all of this is successfully communicated soley through the short blurbs that she spouts out whenever you select her contact and accept and turn in missions to her, which makes it all the more amazing to me.

Riggswolfe, there's a known bug right now where certain project materials will have the contribute button still highlighted even if the requirements have been met.  That might be what your problem was.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on November 16, 2012, 10:50:43 AM
Is it the same actress who played the Vulcan Admiral in the Reman episodes and the Ferengi in the Dominion ones?

I could tell those two were the same voice actress, but she nailed the distinctive sounds of two very different races.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on November 16, 2012, 11:28:43 AM
It definitely could be, And I agree. she utterly nailed that voice inflection.

You know, despite my griping, I have to admit I'm enjoying the casual friendly gameplay of the reputation system. And I agree the patrols are fun and there's 12 planets or so and you only have to do 6 so you can pick the ones you like. Plus New Romulus is a heck of a lot better designed than Nukura.

So despite them messing up Dil farming I'm actually having a good time with it. Its nice not doing STFs the whole time. But then I have all the ships I want, and I blew a ton of dil I had stored up on the Vesta pack for my science guys and its a really good Sci ship.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on November 16, 2012, 01:15:38 PM
Are you using those aux powered cannons, or a more traditional weapon setup?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on November 16, 2012, 01:30:25 PM
2 Aux cannons and dual beam in the front, and Turrets and a beam in the back. I might swap in 3 beams in the back to be honest. The nice thing about the aux cannons is that if you use beam overload the -50 to weapon power does not effect the cannons damage at all, a hidden advantage. Also having it draw from 2 sources reduces the power drain on Weapons power.

{edit} Ok, heres the low down

Fermilon Field. Basically a giant healing field around you that heals you and allies. Very nice

The Quantum Field Focus Phaser is a cutting beam that fires in the front 45 degree arc to 12 seconds on the target, doing about 2000 points of damage/sec (with my skills and a phaser boost module) its main weakness is that if the target goes out of arc for even a split second the beam breaks.

Multidimensional Graviton Shield. Pushes enemies back away from you back. Reflects kinetic damage inflicted on you and protects against Grav wells.

2 parts lets you use an advanced slipstream drive that lets you move at 4 times speed when you use slipstream drive.

3 Consoles lets you deploy a shield that makes you invulnerable for 15 seconds, but you cant fire. Similar to the Ablative armour on the Voyager, but it makes you invulnerable, not just highly resistant.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on November 18, 2012, 12:23:30 PM
Alright, I've started contributing to the fleet. I added enough to earn 31,800 fleet credit which I may turn in for fleet marks or something.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Strazos on November 18, 2012, 02:11:43 PM
So...can someone let me know who here still plays, especially over TS? I'd like to play with you guys at some point...even if you're on Euro time, since I'm there anyway.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on November 18, 2012, 07:17:49 PM
I play -- jayna@morat1.

I'm still in the default top-end Science ship. I've been looking at expanding. (I have a Mirror Universe ship I'm still equipping that has 2 tactics consoles instead of 2 science, but is otherwise the same). I just don't, other than fleet refits, where to go from here. (Strangely, I'm an engineer flying a science vessel. But I like it!).

I've got a tactics alt, but haven't gotten very far with it - level 5ish. Still don't have a Klingon one. :)

Got to try the new Romulan missions -- did the "rescue ships from the Tholian" and the Vault, which were fun. I haven't done a lot of romulan stuff. Heck, I'm still only partway through that episode.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on November 19, 2012, 07:15:54 AM
I'm still here, @Rishathra, but I don't use TS or have a microphone.  I hop in to STFs pretty regularly but I am far from super pro at them.  I only just started doing ISE because the mark rewards are so much better than running normal.  I'm also enjoying the new Romulan stuff quite a bit, both the space patrols and the New Romulus stuff.

So Morat, what exactly are you looking to expanding to?  There are better ships out there than what you are flying , but really, they aren't THAT much better.  Your upgrade path is more about steadily improving equipment.  Changing ships is more of a lateral move, trying out different playstyles more than gaining more power.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on November 19, 2012, 02:24:33 PM
I'm so pissed at myself. Those damn temporal lock boxes are like crack to me. I need to put them down and walk away but I keep thinking the next one will have that temporal ship! I've actually gotten 4 of the mirror universe ships and sold 2 of them on the auction house.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on November 19, 2012, 05:28:06 PM
I have a ton of lock-boxes in my bank. Like...120 or so. Mostly temporal, some other ones.

As for ships, I'm kinda curious about carriers. I built the tactics alt to try out some of the tactics ships. Love the massive death by cannon assaults. :)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on November 19, 2012, 09:05:58 PM
I have a ton of lock-boxes in my bank. Like...120 or so. Mostly temporal, some other ones.

As for ships, I'm kinda curious about carriers. I built the tactics alt to try out some of the tactics ships. Love the massive death by cannon assaults. :)

My main is a tactics alt. Here's what I can tell you has been my experience but please know that I am not an expert. Against numerous smaller ships I am typically a terror. I can destroy most smaller ships in a single pass if all of my stuff is off of cool down. The game will usually throw smaller ships at you in groups of 3 or 4 and I find these fights to be little problem as a tactical officer.

Big ships though? Like battle cruisers? I have to play smart if I want to survive and it is often a punishing fight for me. So far Romulans are the worst because if I don't shoot down those damned torpedoes they tear my ship up.

BOFs are helping me a ton especially shield and hull heals from my science and engineering BOFs. I just hit 50 and am going to take the Chimera heavy destroyer out for a spin. I hear it's like an escort but with more survivability at the expense of maneuverability. We'll see how well it works for me.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on November 20, 2012, 06:42:52 AM
The chimera is nice and I didn't miss the maneuverability.  It feels the same.  I am also a fan of massive cannon damage.  It was hard for me to go back to other ship types after flying an escort.  Carriers are fun to play and very useful, but the raw damage output can be lacking.  The kar'fi is an absolute beast, however.  It can equip cannons and deploy frigates that launch tricobalt torpedoes and mines.  HUGE damage potential.

Do.  Not.  Ever.  Open.  Lockboxes.  You are far better off just earning ec and buying all the good stuff from lockboxes off of the exchange.  I've managed to get all of the nice toys from the boxes without ever opening one.  I sell doffs and artifacts and pretty much anything else that will go for 50k or greater on the exchange, and I make mark 12 consoles and sell them.  This has allowed me to get every good lockbox item other than the no-trade lobi store stuff.  And those are far from the only ways to make money.

Another good way to make money:  Klingon alts.  They are contraband earning machines.  You will easily get more contraband than you can turn in for dilithium, so just sell the excess on the exchange.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on November 24, 2012, 09:48:10 AM
Can you trade contraband from Klingon to Federation characters, through the account bank? How about dilithium? (I know you can ECs and between Fed alts)..


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on November 24, 2012, 12:14:36 PM
Yes on contraband.  For dilithium, there's a trick to it.  Go on the dilithium exchange and make a sale offer on whatever amount of dilithium you wish to trade, and make it a shitty offer so nobody takes it.  Then immediately cancel the offer and the dilithium gets removed from the exchange, but not immediately back on to your character.  Then log on to your other character and claim the dilithium.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on November 26, 2012, 07:28:59 PM
Just a note -- the Season 7 chick with the glowing phaser? Everytime she comes up on the launch screen, I think of Harry Potter. It's like they ripped her straight off a movie poster and just photoshopped in a phaser over the wand.

I'm waiting for her to shout "Expelliearmas!" or whatever.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on November 27, 2012, 03:41:09 AM

Do.  Not.  Ever.  Open.  Lockboxes.  You are far better off just earning ec and buying all the good stuff from lockboxes off of the exchange. 

Yep. If you are that desperate its better to spend you dil or money on Keys and then sell the keys on the exchange. You will get your temporal destroyer much faster that way. That's now I got the Tholian carrier for my Klingon sci, But I might go get a mobius for him.

Agree that the Kar'fi is utter death in the hands of a Tac character. Its just not funny the damage it puts out.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on November 27, 2012, 06:23:18 AM
Just a note -- the Season 7 chick with the glowing phaser? Everytime she comes up on the launch screen, I think of Harry Potter. It's like they ripped her straight off a movie poster and just photoshopped in a phaser over the wand.

I'm waiting for her to shout "Expelliearmas!" or whatever.

I've seen a lot of people complaining about that picture because of the gratuitous T&A, but I love gratuitous T&A, so I have no issue there.  It's really just an awful picture in general.  Is she falling or running?  Why is her hair blowing in the same direction as her movement?  Why is she not looking where she is firing?  What is with that stoned/ditzy look on her face?  Why does she look more like a space elf than a Vulcan?

Sir T, I got the temporal destroyer for my Klingon engineer, and I love it, mainly for its looks.  It's a solid ship too, but really, it is gorgeous.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on November 27, 2012, 09:28:42 AM
Cool. I'll start gathering my ECs for one. My tac has a Kar'fi and my Engineer has a Bortasque, so it would be good to get a Mobius for the Sci. Though I have to admit that Fekri fighters coming out of a Recluse carrier looks freaking awsome.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on November 27, 2012, 04:55:59 PM
My Federation engineer is merely confused at all those rare ships, since I just fly a stock science vessel.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 08, 2012, 09:11:28 PM
This game runs...weirdly. Sometimes it seems fine for days, then I run smack into constant server disconnects and "no response from server" issues for ages.

it's annoying.

Also, apparently I was totally cheating on a race. *eyeroll*. I followed everyone ELSE the first few times I ran it. It's hardly my fault that you can jump there and bypass a chunk of the course. Heck, i didn't realize that wasn't the right way to run it until I got some nasty grams.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 08, 2012, 09:35:40 PM
Yep, Q einter wonderland has a race section where the Devs ran an event and he said 5 times "do it right, lets see who can win honestly, and everyone bar 3 people jumped over a cliff to skip a large section of the course, right in front of him. :D


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 08, 2012, 09:49:35 PM
Yep, Q einter wonderland has a race section where the Devs ran an event and he said 5 times "do it right, lets see who can win honestly, and everyone bar 3 people jumped over a cliff to skip a large section of the course, right in front of him. :D
In all fairness, I suspect at least some of them thought that was the way the race was supposed to be run!

Everyone else jumps there, you can survive that jump, and it's not terribly clear that the raceway continues off to the side. It wasn't until my second run through that I noticed the track off to the side, and if I hadn't gotten nasty IM's and looked it up, I'd still not know it was 'cheating'.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on December 09, 2012, 10:41:26 AM
Are you guys talking about getting the ships off of the lobi merchants? How are you doing that without opening lockboxes? Is there another way to earn Lobi?

As for the race, I ran it naturally myself then saw people jumping the cliff and started doing it too. It makes me LOL when people whine about cheaters. The maximum reward from this race is some stuff to turn in for a non-combat pet but these people act like you're pissing on a vintage Captain Kirk uniform or something.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on December 10, 2012, 06:49:25 AM
Are you guys talking about getting the ships off of the lobi merchants? How are you doing that without opening lockboxes? Is there another way to earn Lobi?

Both the lockbox reward ships and the lobi ships are tradeable.  You can buy them off of the exchange.  There are some good equipment sets that you buy with lobi that are no-trade, but pretty much everything else is buy-able with ec.

I will admit to benefiting from the track shortcut.  What I like about it is that most people are still thinking, "hey this shortcut will let me win the race lol!" and not actually learning HOW to race the track.  I'm getting first place every time.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 10, 2012, 01:11:35 PM
The The temporal science vessel are avalible on the exchange under reward packs. As are the winter coats if you have a mind to not spend your time sitting at a snowball pile pressing F. And I have to say my characters look DAMN good.  :grin:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 10, 2012, 06:08:02 PM
Some of us are broke. :) I only have like 900k. And about 25k dilithium. been upgrading with fleet stuff lately.

Better phasers and the like.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 10, 2012, 06:57:27 PM
Also, unless someone objects, I'm gonna make a Bat Quadrant Emblem and uniform. :)

Anyone care what the color scheme is?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on December 11, 2012, 06:14:18 AM
Go for it.  I tried looking for something that had a vaguely bat-shaped image or maybe a dude with sunglasses and/or smoking something and found nothing.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on December 11, 2012, 06:21:15 AM
The The temporal science vessel are avalible on the exchange under reward packs. As are the winter coats if you have a mind to not spend your time sitting at a snowball pile pressing F. And I have to say my characters look DAMN good.  :grin:

I'm sure they are but I don't have millions of credits. I think I have 500k or so. As for the coats, those are so easy to get naturally it's ridiculous. Do enough snowman fights to earn one of the snowball guns. Then you'll be able to get coats and scarves in probably 2-3 hours. Everyone switches instances constantly during the snowmen fight and you can get 4 or so in if you're lucky. My main has both coat models in black and the scarf I wanted. My first alt now has the long coat and I'm working on the short coat.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 11, 2012, 07:35:53 PM
Also, unless someone objects, I'm gonna make a Bat Quadrant Emblem and uniform. :)

Anyone care what the color scheme is?

If you could get a cloak as a fed it would be perfect :(


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 12, 2012, 08:10:00 PM
Mother-goddamn-fucker.

I finish up an Omega project (for the mark x engine). I claim it, and my project IMMEDIATELY snaps back to the empty version of the Mark X assimilated engine. It's taking up a damn project slot. i file both a bug AND a trouble ticket, and I've been told (via the ticket) "Yeah, that seems to be a bug. You should file a bug report on that. Can't help you there".

I don't want to do the damn thing again (it's 450 Omega marks), I've already got the fucking engine!

edited to add: Screwing around with the Emblems, I managed a Greek Q ontop of funky-cross shaped axes that look a bit like wings. Color scheme was fairly arbitrary. Then I got bored and wanted to play with uniforms, but I have to apparently make and save one, then load it. :)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: eldaec on December 13, 2012, 07:10:17 AM
Also, unless someone objects, I'm gonna make a Bat Quadrant Emblem and uniform. :)

Anyone care what the color scheme is?

I believe last time we needed a uniform was CoX. It was black with green detail.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on December 17, 2012, 06:39:21 AM
Well done with the patch and uniform, by the way.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Strazos on December 17, 2012, 11:29:17 AM
So, how can I find all of you in-game?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 17, 2012, 04:52:37 PM
Well done with the patch and uniform, by the way.
Thanks.  It was fairly fun to play with. I could only wish you could use unlocked uniform parts, but I think I read some of the later starbase/embassy unlocks open up a few different uniform bits.

Anyone seen stats on that winter Breen Starship?

Strazos: I'm jayna@morat1. (Or Janya -- but I think it's the first).

I've started futzing with my Klingon Alt. K'Lang's a hoot.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on December 17, 2012, 05:39:56 PM
Anyone seen stats on that winter Breen Starship?

Available here: http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=777921


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 17, 2012, 08:18:12 PM
Hmm. interesting. I've got a ton of lockboxes I need to sell. I seem to be getting Cardassian and Ferengi ones again. Is the Temporal thing over?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on December 18, 2012, 05:52:54 AM
Not over, they're just doing a rerun event over the holidays, having all the previous boxes drop as well as the temporal one.

I've got a ton of lockboxes I need to selldelete from my inventory because unopened boxes aren't worth anything.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: MisterNoisy on December 18, 2012, 09:35:30 AM
I need to get back into this again.

What are the current big-ticket starbase donations needed?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on December 18, 2012, 11:37:35 AM
Dilithium, fleet marks, duty officers , in that order.  I'm currently only really trying to develop the embassy at the moment.  The starbase is about as far as it can go with a fleet our size.  Over the long term, we could probably get it to tier 3, but that's loooong term.  As it stands I will keep posting provisioning assignments to keep the stores stocked and the occasional xp assignment to thin out any doff surplus I accumulate.  I've promoted all the f13'ers to senior officers, so anybody who is interested in a particular assignment can queue it up if they desire.  The embassy I can get to tier 1, and long term I think we can get to tier 2, but that's about as far as I think I can go.  The dilithium cost for the tier 1 embassy - and that's just the project once you have the xp, not inculding the projects you have to do to get there - is somewhere around 350k dilithium.  I'm afraid of what the tier 2 stuff is going to cost.

Now, the only reason dilithium is such a problem is that I pretty much funnel all I make into the special projects that pop up every two weeks.  Now that the embassy has its own special projects as well, that means a new special project every week, 200k a pop.  They stopped adding new ones over the Christmas holiday, but it starts back up on the 17th, so I'm saving as much as I can while also trying to move the embassy forward.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 18, 2012, 01:50:13 PM
I'm trying to save up dilithium, but I'm also still tooling up my ship. The new fleet mark 12 phasers are nice. :)

They're also 10k dilithium a pop, so I only have 2. I also had to 'waste' 14k dilithium on my second stupid assimilated mark x engine, because of a flipping bug.

I have been trying to donate marks, doffs and the like when I have them. :)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 18, 2012, 02:26:35 PM
I am getting irritated. I cannot seem to find part 9 of "Ghosts of the Jem'Hadar" (Inflitrate Deep-Space Ketrecal White Facility). It just never shows!


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 19, 2012, 06:22:14 AM
According to the sto wiki it can only pop up in the Rotor Nebula or the Zena expanse. Try there.

http://www.stowiki.org/Assignment:_Infiltrate_Deep_Space_Ketracel-White_Production_Facility


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on December 19, 2012, 06:44:53 AM
I'm trying to save up dilithium, but I'm also still tooling up my ship. The new fleet mark 12 phasers are nice. :)

They're also 10k dilithium a pop, so I only have 2. I also had to 'waste' 14k dilithium on my second stupid assimilated mark x engine, because of a flipping bug.

I have been trying to donate marks, doffs and the like when I have them. :)

You know what's sad?  That's two more mark 12 phasers than I have.  One of these days I'll actually buy this stuff!  I'm actually looking more forward to the upgraded kits that you can buy when the recruitment at the embassy is upgraded.  I want that Phaser Turret IV.  I also just got to tier 4 rep with the Romulans, so I'm planning to get a bunch of those mk 12 Romulan plasma cannons for my D'kora.

My last couple of posts may have sounded like a donation drive.  Don't take it that way.  I know you have pretty much started from scratch as f2p just a couple of months ago, right?  Everything you earn has to go towards your characters' development.  I get that.  I've played since beta and have nine alts, half of them exist solely for resource generating purposes.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 19, 2012, 08:16:15 AM
Yeah, I feel your pain. I have 3 kling alts and I'm using them all to build up my fleets kling base pretty much solo. I have finally gotten it to level 2 and frankly that about all I can do. I#m turning to beefing up the embassies now because some of those consoles you can get from there are great. But yeah, that's where most of my Dil has gone and I have a grand total of zero fleet equipment on my ships. Madness.

One of these days I'll turn around and splash out and say sod this to them, but hey.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on December 19, 2012, 09:39:22 AM
I figured out early on that I wouldn't be able to develop a Fed AND a Klingon starbase and maintain my sanity, so my Klingon characters just joined some random large fleet that invited me.  They have a decent tier 3 starbase, and I've contributed enough to it to have full purchasing rights.. and I still haven't bought anything.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on December 19, 2012, 02:51:32 PM
I figured out early on that I wouldn't be able to develop a Fed AND a Klingon starbase and maintain my sanity, so my Klingon characters just joined some random large fleet that invited me.  They have a decent tier 3 starbase, and I've contributed enough to it to have full purchasing rights.. and I still haven't bought anything.

What does the bolded part refer to? Do you have to contribute X to a starbase to be able to use the vendors? Or do you just mean you feel bad buying from it if you haven't contributed?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on December 20, 2012, 06:00:47 AM
The specifics vary from fleet to fleet, but you generally have to be promoted to a certain rank within the fleet before you have permission to buy from fleet stores.  Nobody wants some newb who just joined and hasn't contributed anything to clean out the stock.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 20, 2012, 08:29:23 AM
Ok. I'm pissed.

I've just spent like the last week or more grinding out a Bartender for the starbase. My thinking was - Bartenders generally give the best prices when you sell stuff to them, if I have a Bartender at the bas I can just load up on worthless loot and then transwarp to the base and offload them and then pop back and get back to missioning. Its a lot better than bouncing to first city all the time then travelling back.

So I finally get all the crap sorted and wait 20 hours for the Bartender to be ready. Then I happilly skip to the bartender....

Only to find he gives the same prices as just discarding the loot. AAAARGH!!

80000 dilithium down the drain :(


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Falconeer on December 20, 2012, 08:51:28 AM
So what's the point of all the hassle for a bartender according to them?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 20, 2012, 09:18:51 AM
It gives some doff missions and sells drinks. Much like the one that's sitting in your ships lounge that you can access for nothing.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on December 20, 2012, 10:18:59 AM
Same deal with the chef, and the science, tactical, and engineering officers.  They give you access to shit you could access if you were anywhere else in the game besides the starbase.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 20, 2012, 03:11:09 PM
Huh. I just worked out today that I didn't have to visit the tailor to change uniforms. Also, sadly, I found out the starbase does NOT stock consoles.

I was looking at the Romulan and Omega ship sets --- console/weapons stuff, mostly. Any thoughts on those? The Romulan set looked interesting. (I'm working to gain Tier IV on both of them now. Just got Tier 3 a few days ago.).

I also just learned those pet epohhs I'm breeding can apparently be turned in for Romulan marks. Awesome.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 20, 2012, 09:15:44 PM
Well I'm building up the rom set for my kling engineer. The Reman shield set is not great unless you are looking at using High yield plasma torpedos, but the parts are really good for a cloaking ship, and the engine is very maneuverable. And the Bortas'que looks fantastic with the reman shield on.  :grin:

I played around with the sets on tribble tonight, and I have to say that I was pretty thrilled with the solid wall of plasma I was able to kick out with the rapid fire plasma launcher, and the omega launcher.  :grin:

The big advantage of the Maco set is one of the best shields in the game, fast travel speed in sector space and the 2 parts bonus is one of the few things now that increases your power regeneration.

As for the consoles, I like the rom set but you are locking yourself into using plasma weapons if you use it. Nothing wrong with plasma weapons as such though.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 20, 2012, 09:55:00 PM
I've got the MACO shield right now (Mark X, I think), the Assimiliated Engine (it's what I could get and I really wanted to go faster) and want the MACO deflector pretty badly. I'm pretty happy with my beams + photon torpedo setup, though.

I really need to do something about my consoles, though. It's kinda slapdash, especially the science ones. I've also got some weird warp plasma eject or something AoE console in the bank. Think it came from a lockbox.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on December 21, 2012, 07:33:58 AM
The Romulan sets are nice, but very focused, like Sir T said.  If you are using or planning to use plasma weaponry, they are quite nice.  Otherwise, MACO is your best bet.  I do dig the looks of the Reman shield above all others, though.

I'm guessing that console you mentioned is the Vent Theta Radiation one?  It's fun to use in specific scenarios, mainly stfs, but I don't use it much otherwise.  Against the big stuff like tactical cubes and assimilated carriers, I like to do one pass with the theta radiation to kill the shields, then a second pass with Eject Warp Plasma to melt the hull.  For science consoles in general, it varies a lot what consoles to use depending on how you play your ship, but I try to have a field generator console on every ship.  I'll grab you one if they are too pricey for you.  Let me know.

Sir T, I hadn't even thought about using those torpedo launchers TOGETHER.  That sounds... just lovely.



Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 21, 2012, 08:38:13 AM
I'm currently sporting four science ones -- one's +shield regen, one's +graviton generators (I use Gravity Well a lot), one's +internial dampners (the Assimilated Engine turns like shit), and I think the last is +power insulation or something.

My tactical slots are +phaser and +photon torpedo, and I think I have the bouncy ball of doom universal in there. (Whatever that chain lightning looking thing is).


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on December 21, 2012, 09:21:42 AM
Unless you're running a torpedo boat, all of your tac slots should be +phaser.  Also, ditch the intertial dampeners and the power insulators and go with the chain lightning and field generator.  I know the borg engine isn't the most maneuverable, but the benefit from that console isn't worth the slot.  If you really want more maneuverability, get an RCS console.  I think I have an extra one of those.  I'll check my bank this evening.

Gravity well + Isometric Charge = :drill:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 21, 2012, 09:42:06 AM
Not a torpedo boat. 2 beam arrays and one photon torpedo in the front, same in the back.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 21, 2012, 02:14:29 PM
Sir T, I hadn't even thought about using those torpedo launchers TOGETHER.  That sounds... just lovely.

Oh it was just superb, and with the speed bonus from the Reman set I was laughing manically at the fast moving wall of plasma and the resulting explosions  :drill:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 21, 2012, 05:28:01 PM
The winter event is working out for me. Got my skating boots, a nanopulse lirpa (which is an upgrade over what I had, plus somewhat cool looking), some clothes and an avalanche gun, and the epohh pets can get turned into Romulan marks. (Already made 200 off one I had two fully upgraded ones of).

Getting the Epohh tags is a bit of a PITA, but the winter turn-in stuff is a lot easier once I learned that a critical success on any winter doff assignment (other than the epohh ones) rewarded you with varied items. That plus hitting the occasional snowman has worked out pretty easily.

Don't think I'm gonna bother with the Snowman pet, but I'm trying to acquire more tags. Getting 6 to make a pet is a pain, but each of those pets -- with a day or two of  doff work, is 100 to 200 romulan marks which beats the heck out of doing those damn tholian missions over and over.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 22, 2012, 08:05:15 AM
YOu can trade in the Epohhs you get on new romulus as well. Its best to get a team together for the Chasing the epohhs part though as everyone on the teams score is added together so you get more tags.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 22, 2012, 08:47:01 AM
Haven't been to New Romulus yet. :) I'm still trying to decide what to do with the extra holiday stuff -- trade them in for latinum bars, I think.

Since those Andorian beads are the real limiter on buying anything, I'll probably snap up a few coats or scarves until I'm out of them and put them on the Exchange right after the holidays. The coats are running for about 1.6 million, which isn't bad.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 22, 2012, 03:57:59 PM
Wow.  My science consoles are useless. :( I have, in the bank, a Theta Radation Vent console and a Graviton Pulse Generator -- worth slotting in or not?

I'm looking at the Borg and Reman universal consoles.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 22, 2012, 05:36:31 PM
All the pulse thing does is slow things in front of you down for 8 seconds. The Borg console might be better than that. You can still get it from the Mission "Assimilated" so you can save your dil and marks.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 22, 2012, 06:45:14 PM
I think I might spend a bit of time moving through the storyline. Still doing the Romulan one. :)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on December 23, 2012, 12:48:40 AM
All the pulse thing does is slow things in front of you down for 8 seconds. The Borg console might be better than that. You can still get it from the Mission "Assimilated" so you can save your dil and marks.

I thought they removed the Borg console from that mission?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 23, 2012, 05:12:11 AM
Nope  :oh_i_see: I did it after the patch and out popped a luverly borg console, I believe if you don't see it the first time you redo the mission and ITS BAAAAACK!!  :grin: They also haven't removed the reman shield from Colluseum

Morat just skip through the episodes till you get to that mission and then go back and do the missions if you want to do the storyline. They will remove that console eventually, so you might as well get it now.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 23, 2012, 09:27:00 AM
Which mission is it?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 23, 2012, 10:16:16 AM
Quick question -- is the starbase far enough along that I can do fleet refits? And is it worth it?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 23, 2012, 11:50:15 AM
"assimilated" It on the undine episodes.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 23, 2012, 02:16:33 PM
"assimilated" It on the undine episodes.
Won't let me skip to the end. Apparently each episode only unlocks if you've completed the one before it. i can't even start the undine episode arc.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 24, 2012, 06:04:56 AM
Nope. All you have to do is the first part of the Borg arc, where you go to Gamma Draconis. You have to do that one for some reason to open up Gamma Draconis.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on December 24, 2012, 06:41:49 AM
There are plenty of ship tokens in the store, and a handful of refits unlocked.  They are rather expensive though, and are per character unlocks.  The ships themselves are nice, just pricey.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 24, 2012, 08:24:03 AM
The ships are basically upgraded versions of the standard ships upgraded to close to tier 5 level. They are nice but you better look closely at the stats before you buy one. I got a Fleet Nova as I think its one of the nicest looking ships in the game, but I found it just didn't have the hitpoints to be Battle ready.

You can have a look at the base stats of the ships and compare them here.

http://www.stowiki.org/Federation_playable_starship



Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 24, 2012, 09:44:13 AM
Dang, getting low on money again. I've had Omega and Romulan missions running constantly, and that adds up. I've only been doing Winter Events and some PvE stuff.

On the bright side, I should have enough extra components to put some costume parts from the Winter Holiday on the market, but that's not until after it's over. :(

I guess I'll run space PvE missions. You can scare up a good 100k or more a run with console drops.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 24, 2012, 11:22:47 AM
The sheer amount of money you have to shell out to get marks is becoming a serious problem for me as well. Remember to only buy the stuff from vendors or the Cargo vessels running around Sirius or Regulus. If you replicate them you pay double the price.

Also you can vendor the Assimilated console or the pieces of the Jem Hidar set for 100,000 a pop for a single mission (some of the other rewards are good too, those are the best I can think of offhand). Or run the "tour the universe" for extra cash. And of course vendor at a Bartender to get consistently the best prices.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 24, 2012, 10:08:09 PM
I did not realize I was paying more than the regular price -- or that the bartender paid better. Have to switch up how I do that.

I finally finished part 9 of Ghosts of the Jem'Hadar -- stupid quest was lurking in my officer's duty assignments, not the sector ones. :(

Where's the Jem'Hadar set come from?

Really loving the time I've put into my duty officer's (although I need to consolidate a bunch of greens into blues now). My space and ground set is almost full purple -- missing only an explosives guy and one green or blue guy that's the +40% Astrometrics guy.

I've got a good set of duty officers, so running the Winter Event stuff has given me a surplus of everything but those bloody beads. Don't get me wrong -- I'm down to just one more costume piece, than all that's left for me to buy is the Snowman Pet and if I want the snow sword (I don't) or the nanpulse bath'leth (I have the lirpa, so I doubt it). So really it's the pet if I want it.

Everything else? Costume pieces to sell later and latinum.

I've pulled in 600 Romulan marks so far from surplus snow epohhs (I only sold the ones that were fully evolved and I had more than one of), and I've got three or four currently breeding up.  All that work, constantly recruiting for duty officers really, really paying off. :)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 25, 2012, 04:07:37 AM
Next time i'm on I'll mail you some beads. The Jem Hidar space set comes from some of the last  missions on the cardassian episode, namely the missions, namely "Operation Gamma" and "Boldly the rode". You can get a ground set from the ground missions. The ground set isn't bad.

You can check out the missions here.

http://www.stowiki.org/The_2800

And there's a snow sword?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 25, 2012, 08:50:15 AM
It's an anti-Snowman sword. There's like one or two guns, and one or two swords.

I'm good on beads. :) I've just got a million of everything else. If it wasn't for the 250 bead requirement, I'd probably queue up the Winter Event upgrade  for the starbase. (need 250 of everything).

No way I'm scrapping up 250 beads by the 14th.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Father mike on December 25, 2012, 04:44:52 PM
One of the best ways to make cash is to play the auction house (just like any other game).  People are listing expensive items dirt cheap all the time.  I usually search for the following items to look for bargains to repost

Beam arrays
Phaser beam arrays
Category - science consoles, "ield"

I have made a million a week in the past by just logging in twice a day and searching those terms.  I realize that a million is chump change when high end gear starts at 40 mil, but zero effort cash is zero effort. 

I'm sure there's better ways to manipulate the market, but for a game that I play 2-3 times a month, I haven't been willing to research out a better strategy


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on December 25, 2012, 11:32:57 PM
Nope  :oh_i_see: I did it after the patch and out popped a luverly borg console, I believe if you don't see it the first time you redo the mission and ITS BAAAAACK!!  :grin: They also haven't removed the reman shield from Colluseum

Morat just skip through the episodes till you get to that mission and then go back and do the missions if you want to do the storyline. They will remove that console eventually, so you might as well get it now.

It doesn't work. Neither a first playthrough nor a replay give the Borg console.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 26, 2012, 04:35:14 PM
Yeah, I Checked it tonight and its gone. They must have stealth patched it out.  Darn. :(


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Xanthippe on December 26, 2012, 08:33:50 PM
I haven't played for a few weeks, and have only played once before. I forgot how to equip things on my ship. I have new things.

I also forgot how to equip armor myself.

My inventory filled up. I dumped all the crafting stuff in the bank, and all the unopened lockboxes.

I enjoy the space missions; ground missions not so much.



Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on December 27, 2012, 05:54:49 AM
U brings up your character sheet.  Drag and drop.  Sometimes you have to be in space to equip ship equipment.  It's a random bug.

Space will always be better than ground, but ground gets much more tolerable once you rank up a few times and your away team gets more abilities.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Xanthippe on December 27, 2012, 07:02:33 AM
Thanks, I thought I had to be in the shipyard or something to change things on my ship.

I don't know what is valuable and what isn't. Should I be crafting or selling mats?

I also don't quite understand what subscribing gets me that I would want (at least at this point). But I really enjoy the space missions.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tyrnan on December 27, 2012, 08:51:27 AM
Unless it's changed the only time I remember a sub being worth it was when you were leveling up a character since you get more inventory space, bank space, boff slots and ship slots at each rank which you would otherwise have to pay for as a silver. 


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on December 28, 2012, 06:03:29 AM
Subscribing really doesn't get you much, at least, not much for a continual subscription.  It's worth it to sub for a month because I'm pretty sure there are things you unlock that stay unlocked when the subscription ends, I just can't remember which things...  Ultimately, it is better for you to take your subscription money, buy the game currency, and purchase the stuff you need than to just pay $15 every month.

Actual crafting has been nerfed to uselessness, but crafting materials are still in high demand, because they are used for several other things, like fleet projects and certain duty officer missions, including the one that creates mark 12 consoles.  So they are worth putting up on the exchange at least.  There are regular crafting materials, and there are particle traces, which are 'rare' crafting drops.

So what level are you?  If you are still leveling up, nothing is particularly valuable, aside from crafting materials.  Just about everything else you can vendor.  One of my great joys is twinking new players, so let me know what you want and I'll mail it to you.  Also, if you are looking for a fun, vibrant fleet, yeah, you probably shouldn't join Bat Quadrant.  But you are welcome to anyway, and our starbase is pretty nice!


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 28, 2012, 07:14:03 AM
If you sub you get 500 Zen a month (worth a fiver) a free ship every rank as your character levels up, and a bigger bank balance for when you start raking in zillions. Or not.

Literally the only thing that's worth crafting is the Aegis set, and you can ask one of us and we might do one for you. Its VERY expensive in terms of Dil but its a nice space set.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on December 28, 2012, 07:31:35 AM
I recently made a free account so I could have a couple extra farming toons, and they got free ships up to admiral.  I think they changed that particular restriction of f2p early on.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 28, 2012, 08:40:15 AM
Aegis set? I am intrigued by possible crafting awesome. My crafter senses are..tingling.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: MisterNoisy on December 28, 2012, 09:03:27 AM
If you sub you get 500 Zen a month (worth a fiver) a free ship every rank as your character levels up, and a bigger bank balance for when you start raking in zillions. Or not.

Literally the only thing that's worth crafting is the Aegis set, and you can ask one of us and we might do one for you. Its VERY expensive in terms of Dil but its a nice space set.

Man, I'm glad I cranked those out before F2P.  Crafting is terrible now.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 28, 2012, 09:40:47 AM
Aegis set? I am intrigued by possible crafting awesome. My crafter senses are..tingling.

http://www.stowiki.org/Aegis

(http://www.stowiki.org/images/thumb/8/82/Aegis_enhancements_3.jpg/800px-Aegis_enhancements_3.jpg)

It doesnt do the rings all the time, just when it adapts reacts to incoming fire.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 28, 2012, 11:18:08 AM
http://sto.perfectworld.com/about/features-matrix

You don't actually get a huge amount for your subscription right enough.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Xanthippe on December 28, 2012, 06:28:52 PM
I have a bunch of temporal lock boxes. What should I do with them? Buy keys or auction the boxes or hang on to them?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 28, 2012, 06:40:38 PM
Theres a very nice Airlock you that could use them.

Seriously, if you want to buy a key to open one go ahead, otherwise ditch them. I tend to leave them in mi inventory till they fill up their stack of 20 and then boot them out into vacumn. If you ever want them there will be no hassle finding one.

Finally got to rom level 4 on one of my characters and I have to say I am really not feeling the urge to push it to level 5 at all. I'm pretty sick of grinding the marks so I might leave it for a bit. The Hyper plasma torpedo is kinda interesting though, good in combination with the Rom space set. I found it won't fire at all if you set it for High Yield 2, but Torpedo Spread 3 sends a mass of Plasma balls flying everywhere which is pretty nice.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on December 28, 2012, 09:25:10 PM
I FAIL AT GAMEZ

Where's the NPC to turn in the winter Epohh for Romulan Marks? I heard it was on New Romulus, but couldn't find anyone in the Staging Area or the Epohh Fields.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 28, 2012, 10:44:38 PM
I FAIL AT GAMEZ

Where's the NPC to turn in the winter Epohh for Romulan Marks? I heard it was on New Romulus, but couldn't find anyone in the Staging Area or the Epohh Fields.
It's the GPL converter --there's one at the winter event, on Q's Pavillion

Sir T: I'm just wrapping up T4 on Romulan and Omega (just got IV on Omega and about to on Romulan). I have some 900 Romulan marks banked, pretty much entirely from breeding Winter Epohhs. 200 marks for the Bow or Earmuff Elders, 100 for the regular ones.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Strazos on December 29, 2012, 12:36:54 AM
I'm trying to get back into this, but...the goofy account linking is a pile of fail, and support has not responded yet.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Xanthippe on December 29, 2012, 10:29:42 AM
I am not quite sure what exactly I'm supposed to do. Follow the missions? Try to acquire dil? Make my tiny crewpeople go on missions? Go randomly out into places and do whatever is offered? There's an awful lot of stuff but I'm lacking sort of a general what I'm supposed to be doing rail.

So many currencies. I take it that I don't have to worry about rep until I hit max_level. My ship frustrates me because it's not getting much better at anything. Fortunately it doesn't really need to be better; I only get blown up when I have done those fleet things by Starbase 24.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 29, 2012, 10:32:48 AM
The star trek servers appear to be run by hamsters today. So sick of the "Server not responding" message.

Xan: Just follow the espisode path, really. Make sure to slot in your new powers when you get them. (Sometimes you can't tell -- you can check by clicking your rank icon on the top left corner, and it says what powers you get when.). the tiny people? View them as a means to free experience and stuff while you aren't playing.

Basically put some on active duty (space and ground) to give you bonuses, and jsut have the rest working on stuff. It's free XP and dilithium and more crewman and whatnot.

And you're supposed to be blown up on fleet actions. :)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 29, 2012, 04:00:10 PM
Essentially you can either follow the mission train or fly to planets and if you get a messege "patrol xxxx" hit it and you do a short fun patrol mission. Or go to the nebula sectors and do exploration missions, which can be pretty fun.

And Morat yeah, but I guess I got a kick in the teeth when I saw a blue MkXII reman set would set me back 500 marks and a whopping 18000 dil a peice. Sod that.

I'll probably go back to just playing one character a day and sod the ginding.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 29, 2012, 05:48:48 PM
Question -- can we do duty officer missions for fleet marks? I've hit level 4 on several now, and have excess points on at least two that I can use to generate fleet marks. I've still got to work up the others, and right now I'm focusing on the Winter Event, but once that's over it'd be nice to generate fleet marks.

Also, how do fleet operational assets work? Are they just summons and buffs for PvE events?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 29, 2012, 06:35:39 PM
If you have over 10000 extra commendation po1nts over the max (that is 100000) you can go to a console in the room  where trhe officer of the watch is on the starbase, and do special duff missions where you can sacrivice 10000 commendarion marks for 75 fleet marks. That's where I get most of my fleet marks these days.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 29, 2012, 09:26:20 PM
If you have over 10000 extra commendation po1nts over the max (that is 100000) you can go to a console in the room  where trhe officer of the watch is on the starbase, and do special duff missions where you can sacrivice 10000 commendarion marks for 75 fleet marks. That's where I get most of my fleet marks these days.
I wonder how you guys manage that. :) I get mine during events and from the dailies.

I've hit 4 on about half of them. Recruitment is taking forever.

Question: If I have a bunch of officer mini-packs and Gamma Quadrant packs, can a Klingon alt open them and use them? Or will they be federation because a federation toon got them?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 29, 2012, 09:39:53 PM
You can use the other factions toons as sacrifices for starbase projects but you cant use them for doff missions. The starbase has equal opportunity hunger.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 29, 2012, 10:07:50 PM
You can use the other factions toons as sacrifices for starbase projects but you cant use them for doff missions. The starbase has equal opportunity hunger.
Well, I'm curious what I get out of unopened boxes. "Standard Duty Mini Officer Packs" and "Gamma Quadrant Officer Mini Pack" and I was wondering if they're automatically set to Klingon or Federation, or whether they're set when you open them.

I have several unopened ones in my account bank. My Fed toon got them, but didn't need them. If my Klingon toon opens them, are they Klingon doffs are Fed doffs?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 29, 2012, 10:19:53 PM
They will belong to your faction when you open them as far as I know. The Gamma quadrant pack basically spews out Cardasian, Jem'hidar and other dominion style Doffs which can belong to either faction. I would imagine that as long as its not bound to your character and does not have the word Federation in them that you can open them with your klingon just fine.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on December 31, 2012, 08:01:35 AM
I was unsure about being motivated enough to push through to tier 5 romulan rep, and then I found out you get 32k dilithium and 750 marks for getting there.  The cutscene was pretty cool too, even though it kind of ripped off the 'hologram depicting ancient history' thing from Prometheus.  I'm also interested in getting the singularity harness set and mk 12 romulan beams and trying them out on my bortasqu', but the dilithium involved in getting all that is... a lot.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 31, 2012, 09:11:27 AM
Rishara, Can I ask you a question cause I has a confoosed. On the singularity Harness it says "+7% Plasma damage" Does that means it inclreases only plasma weapons damage, or that it adds on an extra 7% of plasma damage to everything? Cause you know that has an impact on my builds  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 31, 2012, 10:56:05 AM
I just went to New Romulus. I have like...T1 through T4 quests there already. T5 will take another week or two. I have the marks already, thankfully.

I'm building up dilthium at the moment. Only got about 50k though. (I do sorta want the Borg Arm Weapon.)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on December 31, 2012, 11:33:52 AM
Rishathra, Can I ask you a question cause I has a confoosed. On the singularity Harness it says "+7% Plasma damage" Does that means it inclreases only plasma weapons damage, or that it adds on an extra 7% of plasma damage to everything? Cause you know that has an impact on my builds  :oh_i_see:

The singularity harness boosts plasma damage, it does not give you plasma damage.  However, one of the threat control consoles that you can get at the embassy DOES add a plasma proc to your non-plasma weapons.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 31, 2012, 12:52:12 PM
So, I have a Breen Starship in a box now. I'm kinda wondering what to do with it.

I'm thinking of just piling on all the Borg and Romulan rep gear on it and using it to, you know, explode things.  I'm flying a science vessel now, and this is more configured for tactical -- and it has a lot of guns.

Or maybe a mine boat? I've never played with mines. I don't think it can mount cannons.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 31, 2012, 07:20:09 PM
It can Mount dual cannons AFAIK


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 31, 2012, 09:28:23 PM
It can Mount dual cannons AFAIK

Awesome. Then it shall be my ship of almighty limited in arc DEATH!

I did kinda want to screw around with cannons, and I think I just put a semi-decent XII purple in the bank against that.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Kitsune on January 01, 2013, 06:08:38 PM
I've started my own future version of a puppy mill, churning these fuzzy things out to sell to Romulans.  The piles and piles of marks are definitely going to help my progress in Romulan rep.  I always thought that Romulans were hands-down cooler than Klingons in trek, especially the D'deridex class ships from Next Gen; it made me sad that you couldn't get those in STO.  I'll just settle for getting Romulan gear and pray that they never make a lockbox with Romulan ships inside.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on January 01, 2013, 08:30:46 PM
I saw a discussion with Branflakes (one of the devs) where he said flat out that there will never be a LB with the DD inside as he wants to leave it for a possible Rom faction. He also said that the Galor should never have been in a lockbox either as it puts limits a Cardassian faction.

By the way, the Bortasque with the Hyperplasma and the Reman set ooozes D'Deridex :D Played around with it a little tonight with that set up and I'm in lurve.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Kitsune on January 02, 2013, 11:53:05 AM
The Reman shields make any ship into the awesomest rave party EVER.  I kept them even when I vastly outleveled them, just because I love the looks.  Getting the updated Reman shields is one of my goals for farming all this Romulan rep.  I honestly hate the hell out of the Borg set, with the glow only coming off of one engine and weird crap poking out of everything.  Whatever set makes the nacelles purple looks pretty nice, and I'm very happy with the Aegis set that Rish so kindly made for me.  Don't think I've ever noticed the new MACO set on a ship, though I've heard that it has some kind of visual change.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on January 02, 2013, 12:33:48 PM
Yeah, the MACO set makes the ship look all chrome shiney, which is more noticeable on some ship than others. Its actually a very nice effect on things like the Galaxy. It also makes a bubble effect around your ship in sector space.

The purple nacelles is probably the Jem hider set which a which you get from the 2800 missions (and which I suspect will be the next reputation thingie so get them now). I actually kinda like the Borg shield effect on some ships but I rarely like the other effects. As an aside, you do know you can remove the visual effects of a set from the ship character screen, by right clicking on it and selecting "disable visuals"


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on January 02, 2013, 01:11:12 PM
I've heard that the Romulan shield has a different effect than the Reman shield, and I'm wondering how much different it is.  Has anyone seen one running around yet?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Der Helm on January 02, 2013, 02:19:44 PM
So I more or less stopped playing when I reached max level. This was back when the game was still subscription only. I'd like to give it another try, is there any guide on how/what to upgrade ?

What is the endgame at the moment ?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Kitsune on January 02, 2013, 07:46:22 PM
The endgame is reputation grinds with various factions for shinies and running big task force missions, more or less.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on January 02, 2013, 07:48:18 PM
The Romulan shield looks totally different than the reman, and the deflector has different bonuses. I didn't like it at all. You can check them out on tribble.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on January 03, 2013, 06:05:49 AM
Ooh yeah I forgot you could do that now.  Thanks!

Edit:  Doffs and starbases are also an endgame kind of thing.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Xanthippe on January 04, 2013, 12:31:59 PM
What is a Doff? Are those the little people that I assign things to?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on January 04, 2013, 12:47:01 PM
Duty officers, yes.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on January 04, 2013, 02:12:02 PM
Boff = Bridge officer

Doff = Duty officer

Pdoff = The player   :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on January 05, 2013, 09:21:32 PM
Quote
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Total Voters: 3,584

Read more: http://www.mmorpg-center.com/mmorpg-center-2012-players-choice-awards#ixzz2HAbI5Os1


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on January 15, 2013, 06:53:23 PM
Just started the Omega/Romulan rep grinds. Suckful, but probably less excruciating than doing the same instance over and over. Oh wait, it's the same. Just gated by time now. Fuckin' blargh.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on January 15, 2013, 06:59:10 PM
Just started the Omega/Romulan rep grinds. Suckful, but probably less excruciating than doing the same instance over and over. Oh wait, it's the same. Just gated by time now. Fuckin' blargh.
Pity you didn't use the winter event. I made some 1600 Romulan marks on breeding Epohhs, and I still have five in storage. (I also have five or six coat crates to sell).

OTOH, I have a TON of stupid ornaments to sell for GPL, except you can only sell them one at a fucking time. Which means I have something like 400+ ornaments to sell (admittedly, for 200 gpl a pop) and each one requires two mouse clicks. I'm gonna die before I'm done.

I don't even know what GPL is really used for, except holograms and stuff. :)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on January 15, 2013, 07:44:11 PM
I've actually got most of the marks I need, it's just the pain in the ass of waiting the 20 hours at a time to plug 'em in.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on January 18, 2013, 12:43:55 PM
Yeah, and what you get at the end is the right to fork over tons of dilithium to a store. Woo fucking whoo lemme GRIIIIND some MORE!! One of my chars is 2 days from tier 5 and really I'm wondering if I really give a crap at this stage. I hear the mission at tier 5 Rom is pretty cool so I'll see.

Oh, and the Temporal Lockboxes are ending in 6 days. Place your bets on the next thing to suck in your money


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Pezzle on January 18, 2013, 02:31:42 PM
Made 40.  Pretty convinced I have almost no idea what I am doing.  I use escort stuff, or whatever can mount cannons?  Cheap and plentiful by comparison to beam arrays.  Trying to figure out upgrading bridge officer stuff now.  Can you have one bridge officer train another in a skill, or is that just you?  I know you can have them train someone instead of joining your crew. 

I sure wish those crew mission things saw components in your bank, or you could hit a button and be charged the replication cost.  Damn annoying having to open up all those dumb menus. 


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on January 18, 2013, 02:37:30 PM

Oh, and the Temporal Lockboxes are ending in 6 days. Place your bets on the next thing to suck in your money

Dominion lockboxes are next.



Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on January 21, 2013, 06:02:48 AM
You can have a bridge officer candidate train one of your officers, then it is consumed.

I'm pretty sure duty officer missions DO see components in your bank.  I keep all my traces there and can still do the console assignments.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on January 21, 2013, 06:51:33 AM
I can confirm that. They won't see stuff in your ACCOUNT bank however.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on January 21, 2013, 10:57:56 AM
Is it bad that almost all my bridge officers are gimmicks?

Liberated Borg, Reman, Breen, Android, Photonic and Jem'Hadar


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Lantyssa on January 21, 2013, 11:35:35 AM
I think it means you're their target audience, Mr. Mary Sue.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on January 21, 2013, 12:31:18 PM
If I could get some of those, I'd use them. :)

Unfortunately I finally got Xcom, so I've been...distracted. (Also ME3, Halo 4, and I still need to work through the Assasin's Creed series. And blood bowl has been very fun...dangit).


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on January 21, 2013, 02:07:43 PM
One of my chars hit level 5 rommie 2 days ago and I haven't played since. I've probably just birned out a bit, and I'll be back in a week or 2.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on January 31, 2013, 07:31:01 PM
STO is celebrating its 3rd year anniversary. For the next couple of weeks You can play a mission that nets you an ambassador class ship, which is the Enterprise-C from "Yesterdays Enterprise" and a battlecruiser if you are a klingon. Pretty cool actually. You can also run around after stuff for Q if you want.

There's a video showcasting things here... and a nice teaser at the end that you might be allowed to play a romulan in May. EEEEEEEE!!!

http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=809521


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on February 01, 2013, 05:52:07 AM
The new party popper is hilarious. It basically shoots balloons.  Big ones, little ones, and balloon animals of different starships. And they aren't static in the environment , either. If you run through a stack of them they bounce around and are basically entertaining the way real balloons are. The best part is they are either really long lasting or maybe just bugged, as ESD is now completely littered with them. Some people are complaining about it. I think they need to shut the hell up.

I never cared much for the Ambassador class aesthetically, but I am excited about the Klingon cruiser.  Looks like a nice stepping stone between the K'tinga and Vor'cha, just like the Ambassador was intended to be the step between the Excelsior and the Galaxy.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on February 01, 2013, 06:13:50 AM
You also get a title for the mission as well as a new 'uniform' which is in reality a sash and belt to wear over the tng outfit to look like alternate history Feds or Klingons.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on February 01, 2013, 08:33:23 AM
I actually always liked the Ambassador class, and "Yesterdays Enterprise" is my fave Newtrek episode, so I'm very happy with it.. The new kling vessel is baddass, very good mix of eng and sci abilities. And the mission is actually pretty enjoyable as well. All in all a pretty good Anniversary event as far as they go.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Kitsune on February 01, 2013, 08:50:45 AM
Yeah, I got the Ambassador just to have it in my bank, but don't intend to ever fly it.  I've never been particularly fond of them.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on February 01, 2013, 10:35:37 AM
I have the old Micro Machines Enterprise-C on my desk, so, yeah, totally getting it. It's always been one of my favorite TNG ships.

[NERD]And "Yesterday's Enterprise" is one of only three times in 47 years that Star Trek has done time travel right (the other two are "City on the Edge of Forever" and "All Good Things").[/NERD]


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on February 01, 2013, 01:44:38 PM
Yeah but it lead to Romu-yar.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Simond on February 01, 2013, 03:07:12 PM
I have the old Micro Machines Enterprise-C on my desk, so, yeah, totally getting it. It's always been one of my favorite TNG ships.

[NERD]And "Yesterday's Enterprise" is one of only three times in 47 years that Star Trek has done time travel right (the other two are "City on the Edge of Forever" and "All Good Things").[/NERD]
Um, Trials And Tribble-ations?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on February 01, 2013, 06:06:06 PM
Um, Trials And Tribble-ations?

That was fun, but I was thinking about episodes that dealt seriously with the implications of temporal manipulation.

"Year of Hell" in Voyager was a good core concept, (the obsessed captain desperately squashing butterfly after butterfly to see what undoes the hurricane). Unfortunately, they wasted it on Voyager.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on February 01, 2013, 10:02:28 PM
Year of Hell gets a mention in one of the player-made episodes called "The Fire In Which We Burn". Pretty good for player-created content.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Simond on February 02, 2013, 02:41:01 AM
Unfortunately, they wasted it on Voyager.
A summary of Voyager.  :grin:

So I logged in for the first time in months and played through the anniversary quest - pretty nice. Was that actually Denise Crosby they got as VA?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Lantyssa on February 02, 2013, 06:49:47 AM
Something I saw somewhere implied it was.  I can't remember if it was the e-mail they sent out or something a fan posted though.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on February 02, 2013, 12:25:13 PM
Unfortunately, they wasted it on Voyager.
A summary of Voyager.  :grin:

So I logged in for the first time in months and played through the anniversary quest - pretty nice. Was that actually Denise Crosby they got as VA?

Yes it was Demise Crosby. She's actually not a bad voice actress.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on February 02, 2013, 10:20:47 PM
A little stilted, but yeah, on the whole, it worked.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on February 03, 2013, 09:55:16 PM
They say she also did VO for Empress Sela. I expect we'll see that with the May patch.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on February 04, 2013, 12:42:14 AM
They say she also did VO for Empress Sela. I expect we'll see that with the May patch.

I must admit to be quite curious about May. Clearly it is going to be Romulan stuff and most of the people I actually play with have convinced themselves it is Romulans as a playable faction. We'll see.

I posted on facebook when they asked for opinions of the anniversary mission that it might just be their best mission so far. It felt so...right in so many ways.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on February 04, 2013, 03:01:34 AM
Well the teaser is http://www.startrekonline.com/sto_may2013 which has a romulan-esque icon with "fly under the Raptors wings" which is open to interpretation. We will see.

But yeah, I think the mission was very well designed. Lots of things to do, but you can get through it inside 20 minutes if you want to.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on February 04, 2013, 06:53:12 AM
Given how much the playerbase wants a Romulan faction, if that promo campaign ends up being anything other than that, there's a good chance there will be blood.

It was a really fantastic mission.  It's basically Yesterday's [your ship name].  They even had an El-Aurian in the corner muttering, 'this isn't right.'  I liked the bit with T'nae talking about the last days of the Federation.  "Continued resistance was not logical.  I continued to resist."  Or something like that.  Another good one, "I don't think the Tholians have heard of Regulation 427c."  I also appreciate the alt-friendliness of it.  Once you've taken your time and enjoyed the mission, and know what to do, you can repeat it in like ten minutes.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Kitsune on February 04, 2013, 07:52:12 PM
I would pay them in actual money if they would just give me a D'deridex warbird.  I've always considered the Romulans to be vastly cooler than the Klingons; I'd join up with the Romulans in a heartbeat if they released them as an actual faction.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on February 04, 2013, 08:19:52 PM
I've always seen the Romulans as a massive pile of douchebaggery but I do like that D'deridex.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: 5150 on February 05, 2013, 07:38:47 AM
I would pay them in actual money if they would just give me a D'deridex warbird.  I've always considered the Romulans to be vastly cooler than the Klingons; I'd join up with the Romulans in a heartbeat if they released them as an actual faction.

Pretty sure there was a dev post somewhere saying that this was never going to happen [outside of a Romulan faction presumably] :-(


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on February 05, 2013, 09:40:55 AM
Yeah, I saw stahl saying that there would never be a D'deridex lockbox as they are saving it for a possible rommie faction. He also said the Galor should not have been put in a lockbox for the same reason.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on February 05, 2013, 10:27:26 AM
He also said the Galor should not have been put in a lockbox for the same reason.

Speaking of things that probably shouldn't have been placed in lockboxes, there were at least a half dozen Jem'Hadar dreadnoughts in Earth orbit last night...


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on February 05, 2013, 03:22:05 PM
He also said the Galor should not have been put in a lockbox for the same reason.

Speaking of things that probably shouldn't have been placed in lockboxes, there were at least a half dozen Jem'Hadar dreadnoughts in Earth orbit last night...

Yeah, that bugged me too. I definitely think there's room for a Dominion faction somewhere way down the line, along with an expansion into the Gamma Quadrant proper.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on February 06, 2013, 06:04:14 AM
I agree in principle, but I AM getting that dreadnought when the price drops some more.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on February 06, 2013, 07:25:38 AM
 I'll probably get one for my fed Tac as well. Its a great looking ship.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Simond on March 01, 2013, 01:03:29 PM
There's a countdown on the patcher now....


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on March 01, 2013, 01:54:21 PM
http://sto.perfectworld.com/sto_may2013

I want my D'deridex, please.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Strazos on March 01, 2013, 02:57:53 PM
I want my fucking account to work.  :uhrr:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on March 01, 2013, 05:58:34 PM
They put in a Rommie faction and it will kill the KDF faction stone dead.

I always love something with no downside.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on March 02, 2013, 12:54:05 AM
A smarter option would be to make an "adversary" faction of Klingons and Romulans. It's not like there's no "historical" precedent for the two working together.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Simond on March 02, 2013, 02:13:03 AM
They put in a Rommie faction and it will kill the KDF faction stone dead.
Only if they make the evil space elves dilithium fountains like the Klank doffs are.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on March 02, 2013, 12:53:21 PM
Well, yeah, but frankly my klings will just become resource generators that I log into to extract dil from at that point..


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on March 02, 2013, 09:13:44 PM
Well, you do it right, you make Romulans adversaries of everybody and the tell them to work up their faction so that they can have decent relations with the Kilngs and the Feds. Otherwise, you're stuck in your own new little section of space and suck it, you pointy-eared monkeys.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on March 03, 2013, 06:38:34 AM
By the way, I think its nice that no-one here even bothered to mention the Andorian Escort they released a few weeks back. *meh*


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on March 03, 2013, 01:01:05 PM
Kinda meh. Doesn't really do much better than the ships I've got now so, pass.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on March 03, 2013, 03:09:06 PM
I find this game entertaining in about 1-2 hour spurts, but no more than that.   Because of this I'm still only level 7 and lieutenant.  I'll never get to use my Enterprise-C


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on March 04, 2013, 05:54:31 AM
I got the Andorian escort.  It's enjoyable, the wing cannons are cool, but it's very fragile.  I don't regret the purchase, but I only spent about ten real dollars.  The rest came from cashed in dilithium.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Kitsune on March 04, 2013, 12:19:11 PM
I'm super happy with my Vesta, science ship + fighters = yay.  With a purple doff to kill the cooldown on the subsystem targeting powers, I'm disabling the crap out of peoples' shields and guns while raining cannon blasts on them and having fighters shooting everything.  Couldn't be happier.  Now I'm just busy trying to collect enough dilithium to get the Romulan faction gear; I'm especially lusting after those elite Scorpion fighters.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on March 05, 2013, 06:36:19 AM
The elite scorpions are amazing.  The damage increase is quite noticeable.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on March 14, 2013, 12:25:29 PM
Oh look whats back...

Quote
From now until server maintenance during the morning (PDT) of Thursday, March 28, 2013, every Fleet Support Duty Officer Pack you open will also* include either 10 Lobi Crystals or a Jem'Hadar Attack Ship**! If you missed unlocking one of these vessels during the previous Duty Officer promotions, here's your chance at owning one of the most sought-after ships.

EXCLUSIVE: As an added bonus for owners of a Jem’Hadar Attack Ship, there is a Hangar item available for use exclusively for the Jem’Hadar Dreadnought Carrier (available for purchase in the Lobi Store). Scaling quality levels of these items will be available for purchase from the Shipyard Store, Dilithium Store, or Fleet Store only if you have obtained the both the Jem’Hadar Attack Ship and Jem’Hadar Dreadnought Carrier.

* NOTE: This is in addition to the normal items listed below

**NOTE: The odds of winning the Jem’Hadar Attack Ship are rare but have been normalized based on the price of the Fleet Support Duty Officer Pack (275 ZEN) when compared to the 2011 Winter Packages (125 ZEN) we were selling during the 2011 Winter Event. Ship details can be found at the bottom of this page.

Whee.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on March 14, 2013, 02:00:16 PM
So the question is; what's the drop rate on them?  I see ships getting picked-up in global-spam via dropboxes but it's only one every 10-15 mins.  At $1+ a pop no way I'm doing that.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on March 15, 2013, 05:53:14 AM
Nothing confirmed, but various player attempts at determining the odds have come back at <1%.  Really not worth it.  You are better off just making ec and buying the stuff off of the exchange.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on March 15, 2013, 10:15:15 AM
As I suspected.   :awesome_for_real: Thanks.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on March 15, 2013, 11:35:12 AM
Quark's Casino strikes again!  :grin:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on March 21, 2013, 08:38:46 AM
Those who are not playing will have not seen a counter counting down over the last 10 days or so. Will it reached zero today, and they have finally announced whats happening... the first expansion to Star trek online. Lotso stuffs but mainly PLAY AS WOMULANS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZcvK6Gj9WM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZcvK6Gj9WM)

http://sto.perfectworld.com/legacyofromulus

Well that's it for the klingon faction then. There will be no-one playing Klingons bar meatheads and 15 year olds... oh yeah... :D

Rommie ships look great too from the video. And you can finally fly the Double D Deridex

I'm probably going to delete a few of my chars to free up space for 3 rommies. Theres a few I barely play as it is.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on March 21, 2013, 10:21:47 AM
I'll still play my Kilng occasionally. But I'm still looking forward to playing through the Romulan storyline at least once. It looks like the "fight the power" vibe may be cool.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on March 21, 2013, 10:32:17 AM
I pretty much never play alts in MMGs, so I'm still waiting to hear why I should buy this expansion. Romulan characters in Romulan ships fighting Romulan enemies has little appeal for me.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on March 21, 2013, 10:42:26 AM
The expansion is free.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on March 21, 2013, 11:07:49 AM
And if all you think it is is hot Romulan on Romulan violence, you haven't been paying attention.

The whole source of the Hobus supernova issue is a huge thing they've been holding in front of us since the launch. That and maybe more kibbitzing from the Iconians? Sign me the fuck up.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on March 21, 2013, 12:29:43 PM
The expansion is free.

Well, that's a good reason to buy it.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: 01101010 on March 21, 2013, 01:26:29 PM
Holy shit. My major beef with this game was my beloved faction not being playable. This has my attention now.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Kitsune on March 22, 2013, 10:07:00 AM
I'm definitely going to play far enough down the Romulan line to get a D'deridex, but not sure how much I'll actually play it when I get it.  The things are like four times the volume of a Galaxy class, so odds are good that they'll steer like a yak.  I've been spoiled by the relative fleetness of my Vesta and really don't think I could stand to fly something with a crap turn rate at this point.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on March 22, 2013, 02:50:09 PM
Fucking tell me about it. I'm flying either a Defiant retrofit or a Wells Class. If it doesn't turn on a goddamn dime, I'm a pissy bitch. We'll see.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on March 22, 2013, 06:06:51 PM
Heh. I get aggravated by shuttle missions because they turn so much faster than my stock Deep Space Science Vessel.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Simond on March 22, 2013, 06:22:06 PM
Stop flying Feddy luxobarges and get a klink alt?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on March 22, 2013, 06:35:26 PM
Stop flying Feddy luxobarges and get a klink alt?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMrzdKzQTf8


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on March 23, 2013, 01:14:43 PM
Stop flying Feddy luxobarges and get a klink alt?

He's not Lying. I have a Kling Cruiser on one of my alts and it spins like an escort.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on March 29, 2013, 07:03:57 PM
Squeeee!



Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on March 30, 2013, 12:45:24 PM
Oh my stars and garters...

I think I'll step away from the game for a bit becasue I have largely lost interest (plus there's some minor drama associated with the fleet I'm on that has soured me) and I want lots of built up enthusiasm to PLAY THE UTTER SHIT OUT OF THE ROMULANS!!! I wonder which characters I can blow the brains out of on my roster to make room..


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on March 30, 2013, 01:54:08 PM
The bow of D'Deridex warbirds never fails to remind me of Barbra Streisand.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on April 01, 2013, 10:11:03 AM
So, a question to you STO vets.

Is there any reason for me to bump the difficulty on missions up at all?  Increased rewards/ better rewards, etc?  I'll be hitting level 49 today, possibly 50 (hooray for duty missions giving xp.) and my ship gear is such that I get my ass beat on the "no wounds/ ship damage on death" setting as it is.  If I bump this up will I see better rewards or is it just pointless tedium of extra HPs for the e-peen crowd?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on April 01, 2013, 10:36:48 AM
There's more and better drop loot from defeated enemies - I'm not sure about XP rewards.

If you're having trouble at Normal, I don't consider the rewards at Advanced to be sufficient to offset the added costs. I've never even bothered to try the rank above that.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on April 01, 2013, 01:50:12 PM
The difficulty slider is purely for epeen measurement, or if you want a 'challenge.'  The loot tables are technically better, but we're talking the difference between 1/100 chance of a purple, as opposed to 0.5/100.  Better odds, but still not good ones.  The longer battle times also pretty much negate the loot chance advantage, as you could blow up twice as many ships in the time it took you to knock out one on elite.

If you feel you are hurting gear-wise, Merusk, hit me up in game @Rishathra.  I have bunches and bunches of good equipment I can give you.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on April 01, 2013, 02:33:12 PM
Thanks, you guys confirmed what I suspected.  I turned it up one mission ago and as the piddly Romulan frigates were chewing my shields to bits I was thinking, "Sweet, I bet I get some good drops instead of white shit now!"

...And then wound up with 0 drops, 0 drops, white console.  :oh_i_see:

My gear's good enough for leveling.  When I say that I get my ass kicked it's only those Romulan cruisers around the time you go to the "Vault" in the mission storyline.  They've got some sort of power or shield drain that just fucks me right over.  I figure I'm missing a resist somewhere and won't really care about it until I cap and consider grinding for glory or just continuing the mission stories since I know they'll give me blues.

Really I know my problem is I've got stock parts on my last 2 ships because Green and blue drops are infrequent and you level past their usefulness PDQ.  The Dilithium gear is too expensive to bother with as you level and exchange prices are so inflated as to be *laughable*.   Like every other Gear-MMO where you come in 2-4 years later.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on April 01, 2013, 02:35:12 PM
There are some other avenues to good equipment:

If you're flush with cash, the exchange. Personally, I find the prices severely inflated (PRE-EDIT: Seems you agree), but I seem to be unusual in rarely having more than 500k EC.

If you're flush with sensor traces, craft it. You'll need dilithium for "unreplicatable materials."

If you're flush with officers, you can Engineering missions to build deflectors, shields, and most types of weapon.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on April 01, 2013, 02:43:59 PM
Hit me up for gear as well, I'm generally giving stuff away in ESD all the time.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on April 01, 2013, 04:00:30 PM
What are you talking about inflated. I have a purple Mk XII 3X[ACC] Phaser turret on the exchange for 48 mill. Dont hurt me!


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Simond on April 01, 2013, 04:11:32 PM
There are some other avenues to good equipment:

If you're flush with cash, the exchange. Personally, I find the prices severely inflated (PRE-EDIT: Seems you agree), but I seem to be unusual in rarely having more than 500k EC.

If you're flush with sensor traces, craft it. You'll need dilithium for "unreplicatable materials."

If you're flush with officers, you can Engineering missions to build deflectors, shields, and most types of weapon.
How to get mad credz in STO:
1) Klingon alt
2) Do tutorial mission and a Mirror Invasion or two.
3) Get Doffs
4) Go maraud. (http://www.stowiki.org/Commendation:_Marauding)
5a) Exchange contraband for dilitihum, or
5b) Sell contraband on the AH for credits.
6) Never worry about money again.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on April 02, 2013, 06:22:38 AM
The two easiest ways to get money/gear in this game.

1.) Make a Klingon alt.  Go marauding.  Sell the piles contraband you get.

2.) Ask me for stuff.  I'm rich.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on April 02, 2013, 11:41:03 AM
There's other ways for the feds to earn cash

(1) Grind Starbase 24. Its better for an escort as you have a shot at the big prize but there is good loot to be had regardless.

(2) the big dig is a lot of fun and has good money in there too.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Simond on April 02, 2013, 01:41:50 PM
Thing is, though, a klink maurading is 10-15 minutes a day and then free money.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on April 02, 2013, 02:00:34 PM
Not disagreeing with you. Contraband sells for an average of 43000 and up.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on April 03, 2013, 07:50:37 AM
It fluctuates, but if you put it up for 45000, it will all sell within the week.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on April 03, 2013, 02:18:55 PM
Fun times on the tribble test server



Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Simond on April 03, 2013, 04:33:17 PM
Go home Enterprise, you're drunk.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Ginaz on April 03, 2013, 10:46:27 PM
The new Romulan stuff has gotten me interested in playing again.  Unfortunately, I can't seem to link my old Cryptic account with my new Perfect World account.  I made it to captain before and there is no way in hell I'm starting over again.  Fuck.  That.  Shit.  I sent a ticket in so hopefully they can fix it.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on April 04, 2013, 06:03:06 AM
Leveling up is soooo easy now, especially with the duty officer system.  Don't let that stop you.  I have two mule alts that are max level solely from logging in once a day and doing the history assignments at the Academy.  They were vice admiral within the month.  Fixing accounts that have trouble linking up to PW isn't exactly their first time at the rodeo, though, so it shouldn't be a problem for them to fix it for you.

Have you played around much with the warp cores or new traits, Sir T?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Hoax on April 04, 2013, 09:05:38 AM
I've never seen a game where they have a bug that doesn't allow people to connect to their servers and they have decided its not worth fixing. I'm literally in awe of how bad these guys are.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on April 04, 2013, 04:50:25 PM
Have you played around much with the warp cores or new traits, Sir T?

Not as such no. I was too busy raging that my Klingon characters on tribble cant beam up and that my Atrox carrier could not fit through a door  :why_so_serious:

The "new trait system" Is basically that you slot in a bunch of traits to available slots from a list. I looked through them and they don't seem too different to the ones we have right now. I tried to get some warp cores by blowing up some foul cardassians and none of them dropped. :(


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: 5150 on April 05, 2013, 05:04:20 AM
Have they had the tribble test weekend for the next release yet?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on April 05, 2013, 05:37:37 AM
Ok, I played around with it last night. Essentially, you now have a new slot as well as the Deflector'shield/engine combo on your ship for the warp core. On tribble warp cores are available from the dil store, which gives you up to Mk X Rare cores (for 32K dil). Warp cores determine your base warp core speed now instead of your level. Mk X gives warp 10. The blue ones have various efects, such as 15% for your shield, giving 15% of your Shield power to your auxiliary power, stuff like that. I still havent actually seem any cores drop, but someone said on TTS (the tribble channel) that all he had seen drop were commons, which just give the Warp speed and that's it.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Raknor on April 07, 2013, 10:27:47 AM
Just about to hit level 10 and I believe I get a new ship. I am playing an Engineer.  Should I take the engineer ship?

Also, I'm reading you can send Duty Officers out on missions.  I'm guessing I cannot do that because I don't have enough of them to spare and still fly my ship?

Do you guys have a chat channel you hang out that you can answer a few questions from a total noob? My user name is rakn0r


Fake edit:  Was thinking this was a decent build?  Here (http://www.stoacademy.com/tools/skillplanner/index.php?build=BeamAssaultCruiser_0)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Hoax on April 07, 2013, 11:17:42 AM
Your duty officers and bridge officers are different things. You can assign 5 duty officers to space and ground support so that they do something instead of sending them on assignments but I'm not sure what you said makes sense.

Being forced to level to 24 to get Klingon is fucking garbage, what a stupid move. I wondered if Klingon would unlock if I bought the cat people Klingon race but there's no info and I think I will probably just stop playing instead. This is a ton better than I imagined it could be.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on April 07, 2013, 05:14:39 PM
Uh, you can get to level 24 inside a week. And Klingon play appears to be "Honourably log onto forums to complain about the lack of Klingon content and violently object to any suggestions that they are not totally outclassed by the Feds, and they only win every freaking game because the feds are idiot players donchaknow."

And you start off at level 20 as a kling.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on April 08, 2013, 06:33:28 AM
Raknor, for purely leveling purposes I would suggest getting an escort.  Once you hit max level go ahead and pick something else if you like.  Engineers work pretty good in just about anything, really, but the level grind (such as it is, you will level very fast) will go more smoothly in an escort.

I don't think you get duty officers until level 11, which is why you can't send them yet.

I'll send you an invite to the f13 fleet if you are interested, and you can ask questions on the fleet channel, and we can help you out with other stuff too.

As for Klingons, I think when Legacy of Romulus hits that whole level restriction thing is going away.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tyrnan on April 08, 2013, 08:46:12 AM
As for Klingons, I think when Legacy of Romulus hits that whole level restriction thing is going away.
Yep, they've said once LoR hits you can level as any faction from level 1 so I assume that means the whole "get a Fed to level whatever first" bit is going away too.

I came back to the game about a week ago and finally got my Fed Sci captain to 50. I'm slowly working my way up the Romulan rep system (I only do the daily sector patrol and radiation scans as the ground stuff left me cold after a single run through, which is a shame as it's a nice zone). For the Omega rep are my only choices to do those ground missions on Defera or STFs? Which for me means just the ground missions as I'm not in a fleet and PUGs bring me out in a rash.

Also, is there anywhere in particular that has a good chance at some nice purple drops? I want to work towards a Wells so getting something that's worth selling on the exchange would be nice.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on April 08, 2013, 09:02:27 AM
Epohh breeding can get you a lot of Romulan marks.  The time spent->reward ratio is very nice.  Two minutes a day, tops.

For Omega rep, you can do Infected-The Conduit Elite.  It's fairly PUG-proof.  Even if you get a bunch of idiots and they blow the optional, the main mission is fail proof and will take you 15 minutes to get 60 marks.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tyrnan on April 08, 2013, 09:20:32 AM
Thanks for the tips, I'll take a look at them now.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on April 08, 2013, 10:17:33 AM
Yeah I did The Conduit on normal this weekend and when it was over I had a "Wait, that's it?" moment.

The Romulan one where you free the ships seems to be OK, too. I can imagine it's tougher on Elite since  the ships will be tougher, but it's pretty straightforward in terms of, "kill these guys, hit "F" here, higher point values = better."


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on April 08, 2013, 12:28:20 PM
I unpacked the Tholian carrier for one of my characters today, and man, I wish I hadn't waited so long.  The thing is amazing just for the bridge alone.  Seriously.  If you get the chance, go see someone's Tholian bridge.  The new mesh weaver frigates for it are pretty good, as well.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on April 08, 2013, 01:12:39 PM
At this point, I think that and the Jem fighter are the only ones I don't have. And while I'm a fan of the bridges, they need to flesh out the ships more. The Wells bridge is awfully tiny.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on April 08, 2013, 01:55:45 PM
My laziness prefers the small bridges, as it puts everything in that one room, instead of scattering stuff throughout the decks.  It would be cool to see a complete Tholian/Jem'hadar/timeship/Ferengi/Andorian interior though.  If they ended up half as neat as the TOS constitution interior was, it would be worth it.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on April 08, 2013, 01:58:42 PM
Yeah, I've had a tholian carrier for a while, and the thing is freaking amazing. It was rock solid even with the tholian fighters which were badass. The Special ability is pretty useless though as the 4 minute cooldown is a joke. I'd toss the console for something else.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Raknor on April 10, 2013, 08:52:02 AM
Think I've figured out the duty officer thing.  Found a couple places in the Star Fleet Academy to get a few extra every couple days. I didn't know duty officer and bridge officer were different.  Good times. I do have 4 candidates for bridge officer that I cannot get because my "ship is full." Getting the feeling they want some cash to open up more slots?  Or maybe I get more as I level up.

Just hit 20 last night. That's about 4 play sessions. It's going a bit faster than I thought it would.

Rishathra, I'd love an invite if you have room for a new person.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tyrnan on April 10, 2013, 10:02:08 AM
If you're silver, according to the f2p matrix (http://sto.perfectworld.com/about/freetoplay/features-matrix) you get an extra slot at Captain and Rear Admiral Lower Half ranks. Or you can purchase them from the cash shop. It can be worth it to sub for a month while you're leveling a character since you'll get extra BO , inventory and bank slots as you level. Not to mention a free respec at each rank which comes in handy at 50 if you're experimenting with different builds. I can't remember if silver players get the free VA ship token either. From what I remember they didn't but that may have changed.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Hoax on April 10, 2013, 12:43:13 PM
Think I've figured out the duty officer thing.  Found a couple places in the Star Fleet Academy to get a few extra every couple days. I didn't know duty officer and bridge officer were different.  Good times. I do have 4 candidates for bridge officer that I cannot get because my "ship is full." Getting the feeling they want some cash to open up more slots?  Or maybe I get more as I level up.

Just hit 20 last night. That's about 4 play sessions. It's going a bit faster than I thought it would.

Rishathra, I'd love an invite if you have room for a new person.

Boggles my mind that there isn't a good list of all of the places you get them. Look at this, what the fuck? (http://www.stowiki.org/Duty_officer#Obtaining_More_Duty_Officers)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on April 10, 2013, 01:58:38 PM
Raknor, there is plenty of room in Bat Quadrant.  It is after all, an f13 fleet!  I'll need your Name@account to invite you, or send @Rishathra a mail.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on April 11, 2013, 08:22:00 AM
Think I've figured out the duty officer thing.  Found a couple places in the Star Fleet Academy to get a few extra every couple days. I didn't know duty officer and bridge officer were different.  Good times. I do have 4 candidates for bridge officer that I cannot get because my "ship is full." Getting the feeling they want some cash to open up more slots?  Or maybe I get more as I level up.

Pess U and you will get a list of the bridge officers you have. And go to the stations tab to place them. You can dismiss some of your current BO's to make room if you want.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on April 12, 2013, 07:29:43 AM
The rejiggered Crystalline Catastrophe came out yesterday.  It is a vast improvement in that you can now complete it.  It's very straightforward now, basically shoot all the things, except when it absorbs, then shoot all the OTHER things.  Worthwhile if you need dilithium, because they are doing a limited time event where if you do one daily 14 times in the next 3 weeks, you get a nice payout.  50k dilithium, 1000 fleet marks, and a space pet.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on April 12, 2013, 07:01:03 PM
Price of dil to zen is rising on the exchange. Seems people, are looking for zen again with the rommies coming.

Price of contraband is going down, seems some people are flooding the market since it was mentioned here.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on April 18, 2013, 12:42:05 PM
Want to spend $125 on a bunch of preorder Romulan ships? You can do that.

http://sto.perfectworld.com/legacypack


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Kitsune on April 18, 2013, 07:13:54 PM
So yeah, D'deridex.  5.5 turn rate.   :facepalm:  Definitely not gonna be using that one much.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Ginaz on April 18, 2013, 08:36:42 PM
I still can't access my old Cryptic account even after 4 emails to customer support giving them the account name, email used to create the account, my character's name and even my real name in case they needed to match it with the info on my sub payments. :argh:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on April 18, 2013, 10:45:44 PM
Closed beta for the Romulans has started on tribble. I got an invite  :grin:

They specifically say that there is no NDA I'll let you all know what I think once I get a chance to play it.

Oh and they have a "starter legacy pack" for $19 that gives you a couple of ships, a BOFF and a title. I'll probably pick that one up rather than the "more money than sense" option. (Or course I don't have the sense, I just don't have the money either  :grin: )


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on April 19, 2013, 06:51:36 AM
So yeah, D'deridex.  5.5 turn rate.   :facepalm:  Definitely not gonna be using that one much.

I knew it was going to be a whale.  What are the other stats?  I'll put up with it if it can still pack a better punch than a galaxy.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on April 19, 2013, 08:07:59 AM
Well it is bigger than a Galaxy. It is slightly more nimble than an Oddessy though. Woohoo

Of course the biggest problem withthe punch of the galaxy is that the balance between cannons and beams is way off in the cannons favour.

And where did you get the stats?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tyrnan on April 19, 2013, 09:17:51 AM
If you go to the ship requisition NPC on the flotilla you can check out all the ships. The Romulan Zen ships aren't purchasable yet though  :oh_i_see:

Oh Rishathra thanks again for that Epohh tagging tip! Takes a while to get going but I'm starting to build up a nice pile of marks now.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on April 19, 2013, 09:32:52 AM
Yeah there is a bit of a wind up, but once you get going, it is a lot of easy marks.

Edit:  Looks like I got an invite too.  Yay!


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tyrnan on April 19, 2013, 09:53:53 AM
I've been pretty impressed with it so far, especially the art/zone design (Romulan ship interior is pretty awesome!). Also found the story much more engaging that the Fed or Klink ones. Not a major achievement I know but still nice.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on April 21, 2013, 01:26:55 AM
I agree. I have been seriously impressed. They have obviously done a ton of work getting things right, and the first ship was a lot of fun to play.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on April 21, 2013, 07:42:15 PM
Yeah there is a bit of a wind up, but once you get going, it is a lot of easy marks.

Edit:  Looks like I got an invite too.  Yay!
I haven't figured out how to start that yet, but I still have a giant stack from the Winter Event. Which reminds me, I've got some clothes to throw up on the exchange.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on April 22, 2013, 01:54:41 AM
Its fairly eay Moratr. You got to the epoh fields on new rom and go to the epohh fields,. then you team up with a group (ask in zone) and do a mission there where you run after and tag Epoh.s Takes a minute and a half. You need 30 to get 4 tags when even 2 people can get fairly easily. Then you go back to the mission giver and select "help with Epohh Research" which gives you a doff mission that takes those 4 epohhs and gives you back a research token (if the doff mission crits you get 3)

Once you have 5 tokens, you can use them to buy an Epohh Peh. Then you run the ped through 3 "raising Epohh" cycles in another vendor toll you get an elder Epohh, then you can exchange the epohh for 400 Rom marks.

Takes about a week or more, but its by far the least grindy way to get rom marks in the game.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tyrnan on April 22, 2013, 05:34:45 AM
I managed to pick up a blue doff with efficient and logical from the exchange for about 135k (think I got lucky) which gives me around 23% crit chance on the research. It actually ended up critting the first 3 or 4 times which got me off to a nice start  :grin:

As regards LoR itself, the only thing that's really giving me pause is the ship line-up. With no access to your allies ships at VA that leaves the selection fairly limited. Coupled with the fact that Romulans don't appear to have any science vessels (wtf? If anything I would have expected them to have a slight leaning towards science in the same way that Klingons are more tactical oriented) and it's leaving me a little less enthusiastic about the whole thing.  Although I fully expect a Romulan Lockbox with a faction-specific timeship at, or shortly after, launch since we're locked out of the Mobius and Wells.  But I have a horrible feeling it will be Engineering oriented since Wells = Science and Mobius = Tactical.

But at least they've said they're reviewing the Singularity Core mechanic and the stations on the D'Deridex which is something I guess.  There's no way those Singularity abilities are worth losing 40 overall subsystem power given the current cooldown before you can even start charging the core again.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on April 22, 2013, 07:13:48 AM
.  Although I fully expect a Romulan Lockbox with a faction-specific timeship at, or shortly after, launch since we're locked out of the Mobius and Wells.  But I have a horrible feeling it will be Engineering oriented since Wells = Science and Mobius = Tactical.


I thought I read somewhere that while the Romulans can't fly the specific ships of the faction they chose, they can use the lockbox ships that that faction can earn. I'll look on the site again but I think that was answered in a QA or FAQ or something.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on April 22, 2013, 07:32:24 AM
They can use all the lockbox ships except for the timeships.  They can use the time shuttles of their allied faction.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on April 22, 2013, 07:39:16 PM
Its made clear on one of the Dev blogs

http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=869551

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Fleet Ships

Romulan Captains with a sufficiently leveled Starbase can gain access to Fleet Retrofit versions of each Warbird type. These ships have increased Hull and Shield Health, as well as an extra Console slot, but do not come with the Consoles that come with the Retrofit versions of the ships. Fleet versions of every Warbird type will be available at the launch of Legacy of Romulus. The tier for unlocking these ships can be found in the ship progression chart below. Also, if you own the Retrofit version of a ship, you'll get a Fleet Ship Module discount when buying the Fleet version, similar to existing ships.



Allied Ships (Updated!)

When a Romulan Captain chooses to ally with the Federation or the Klingon Defense Force, they gain access to a limited number of their ally’s ships. Romulan Captains can obtain Tier 1 through Tier 4 allied ships for Dilithium or in the C-Store, depending on the specific ship. Romulan Captains cannot command, nor purchase/ claim, Tier 5 (Rear Admiral, Vice Admiral, Brigadier General, or Lieutenant General) ships from the faction that they have allied with.



Lock Box and Lobi Store Ships

Star Trek Online STO MMORPG F2P Sc-Fi MMO game Legacy of Romulus

Romulan Captains can use any Lock Box or Lobi store ships that can be used by both the Federation and the Klingon Defense Force, such as the Jem’Hadar Dreadnought Carrier and Tholian Orb Weaver, for example. In addition, they can use any Romulan-specific ships that we add to Lock Boxes or the Lobi Store at a later time.

They cannot use Mirror Universe versions of Rear Admiral, Vice Admiral, Brigadier General, or Lieutenant General tier ships from the faction that they have allied with. Similarly, they cannot use faction-specific Temporal Ships, such as the Mobius; however, they are capable of using their ally’s Temporal Shuttles, however.

Romulan Captains who open a lock box and receive a reward box containing a ship they cannot use will be unable to open the box, but will be able to trade the box or put it on the exchange.

Romulan Captains will be unable to open lock boxes until they have chosen an allied faction.

1000-Day Veteran Ship

At launch, Romulans will not have a 1000-day Veteran ship available. We are planning to address this as soon as possible.

Ship Progression

The chart below summarizes the ships available at each tier and how they can be obtained.

(http://images-cdn.perfectworld.com/www/ef/05/ef05415bb65026d75946f6b4b4e43a571366399382.jpg)

*Fleet Ships are purchased differently from standard C-Store vessels. Fleet Ships cost both Fleet Credits and Fleet Modules to purchase. The number of Fleet Modules required to purchase varies depending on which other ships you already own. Fleet Modules can be purchased in the C-Store. To purchase a Fleet Ship, you must unlock the appropriate level in your Starbase. A full dev blog on Fleet Ships in general can be found here. http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=621601

**The Ha’apax Advanced Warbird Refit is a version of the Ha’apax that uses Bridge Officer Seating with a Science focus.

As a reminder, all of the information in this blog is subject to change at any time.

More information on upcoming ships, including detailed stats, will be available closer to launch. Keep your eyes on our website for more details. See you in-game!


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Special J on April 26, 2013, 01:25:01 PM
So I'm giving this game a shot.  Haven't done much other than taking a scientist through the tutorial.  Seems fun enough that be playing at least little while.  Logged once I got to Earth.

I know with a free account I'm limited on my resepcs.  Is there a skill in the early going I should be focusing on?  What about crew?

I'm willing to spend few bucks in the store.  Anything there that are "must haves"?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on April 26, 2013, 01:50:41 PM
So I'm giving this game a shot.  Haven't done much other than taking a scientist through the tutorial.  Seems fun enough that be playing at least little while.  Logged once I got to Earth.

I know with a free account I'm limited on my resepcs.  Is there a skill in the early going I should be focusing on?  What about crew?

I'm willing to spend few bucks in the store.  Anything there that are "must haves"?

I only have one science alt and haven't played it enough to get a good feel. I am sure someone else can help you.

As for 'must haves' from the C-store. That really depends on you and how much money you want to spend. I love buying costume parts and have bought the Odyssey cruiser bundle among a few other premium ships over the years.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on April 26, 2013, 06:37:07 PM
So I'm giving this game a shot.  Haven't done much other than taking a scientist through the tutorial.  Seems fun enough that be playing at least little while.  Logged once I got to Earth.

I know with a free account I'm limited on my resepcs.  Is there a skill in the early going I should be focusing on?  What about crew?

I'm willing to spend few bucks in the store.  Anything there that are "must haves"?

Well, The Liberated Bog Bridge officer is a pretty nice space and ground Officer if you want to buy something, and the Horta is a great ground combat pet. The Atrox Carrier is a great Fed sci ship for max level stuff, but you wont be able to fly it till you hit level 50.

As for training, if you look though your skill tree you will see some of them that say "science captains who have 6 ranks in..." make sure those are all at 6, they are your key powers. Aside from that, don't take anything above 6 ranks until you know what you are doing and probably not even then. This is because of diminishing returns, and every point above 6 does not get you much. I'm a fan of boosting your power and structural skills.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on April 26, 2013, 11:00:05 PM
So I'm giving this game a shot.  Haven't done much other than taking a scientist through the tutorial.  Seems fun enough that be playing at least little while.  Logged once I got to Earth.

I know with a free account I'm limited on my resepcs.  Is there a skill in the early going I should be focusing on?  What about crew?

I'm willing to spend few bucks in the store.  Anything there that are "must haves"?

Well, The Liberated Bog Bridge officer is a pretty nice space and ground Officer if you want to buy something, and the Horta is a great ground combat pet. The Atrox Carrier is a great Fed sci ship for max level stuff, but you wont be able to fly it till you hit level 50.

As for training, if you look though your skill tree you will see some of them that say "science captains who have 6 ranks in..." make sure those are all at 6, they are your key powers. Aside from that, don't take anything above 6 ranks until you know what you are doing and probably not even then. This is because of diminishing returns, and every point above 6 does not get you much. I'm a fan of boosting your power and structural skills.

Is the Horta pet reusable? I thought it was like a few of the others where you'd get, say, 20 of them and then you're done.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tyrnan on April 27, 2013, 01:49:27 AM
So I'm giving this game a shot.  Haven't done much other than taking a scientist through the tutorial.  Seems fun enough that be playing at least little while.  Logged once I got to Earth.

I know with a free account I'm limited on my resepcs.  Is there a skill in the early going I should be focusing on?  What about crew?

I'm willing to spend few bucks in the store.  Anything there that are "must haves"?

As Sir T said, putting 6 points into most skills is a fairly safe bet.  However, even on my Science captains I usually don't put anything in the sci skills above commander as I never really use the skills they buff and disables aren't that prevalent in PvE.  If you plan on PvPing however they could be worthwhile.  Other than that just focus on weapon skills, things like hull repair, shield systems, warp core potential etc.  You'll be able to have 6 in most skills by the time you hit the level cap.

If you reckon you'll play enough to hit 50 inside a month (and it's not really hard, leveling in STO is quick) then I still think subbing for the month is worth it.  You'll get extra inventory, bank and bridge officer slots as you rank up which while not essential, are nice to have.  More importantly though you'll get a free respec token at each rank which can come in very handy when you're new to the game and want to experiment with different builds.  The skill planner (http://www.stoacademy.com/tools/skillplanner/) at stoacademy is quite handy too.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on April 27, 2013, 03:27:18 AM
Is the Horta pet reusable? I thought it was like a few of the others where you'd get, say, 20 of them and then you're done.

Yep, it stays for a minute and has a 4 minute cooldown but its totally reusable.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Special J on April 27, 2013, 07:12:29 AM
Cool, thanks for tips.  Just at level 3 as I took my time figuring stuff out.  Still on the starter Miranda-class ship but I've got my bridge positions filled with basic crew you get as mission rewards.  I may consider the one month sub thing.

Let me make sure I've got the Memory Alpha stuff right: scan anomaly, get bits, distill to blue prints, make stuff. Right?

Lockboxes: It's pretty much going to cost me either $1.20 or a shit ton of space bucks to open one?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on April 27, 2013, 07:51:22 AM
Pretty much. Everyone hates Lock boxes but they make Perfect world money


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on April 27, 2013, 03:47:30 PM
The best thing to do with lockboxes is stick a full stack in the bank, wait until that variety's been gone a while, and then sell them to rubes on the AH.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Simond on April 28, 2013, 10:05:56 AM
Romulan engine room: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stVJ7Ld9LP0
"Where we're going, we won't need eyes to see".

e: fixed.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on April 28, 2013, 02:54:31 PM
I don't think that's the video you meant to link. :)

EDIT: Yeah, totally. And that intermittent cicada-like noise doesn't help. That is not something I'd like to work near. Federation engines explode, like physics intended. Romulan engines you have to worry about opening a hole to another reality...


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Special J on April 28, 2013, 05:55:47 PM
So if I buy an Officer candidate, there are a bunch that I can pick the race, and there is a "Unknown" candidate.  I assume that's a random race with a chance at something harder to find?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on April 28, 2013, 06:45:16 PM
No, it's a race that you can use a bunch of custom heads to create weird-looking aliens the way you want, vs one of the preset races.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Special J on May 01, 2013, 08:02:35 PM
I've been promoted and I get a choice of ships. So from what I see from stats:

Cruiser: Tank
Escort: DPS
Science: Hybrid

Was going to go science for versatility, but being a Science officer plus having two more, should I worry about the lack of Engineering & Tactical abilities.  Or should just not sweat it until higher levels?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tyrnan on May 02, 2013, 02:48:50 AM
The leveling content in the game really isn't very difficult (apart from some of the ground missions against the Breen where bosses will 1-shot your entire away team with that stupid cold cone attack, even on normal difficulty :ye_gods:) and people have gone from 1 to 50 in a shuttle.

Having said that if you want fast, easy leveling just jump in an escort and throw some dual heavy cannons with turrets on it and the supporting tac skills like rapid fire and scatter volley and away you go.  Science ships used to be a lot of fun but the science skills got nerfed pretty hard so they're not as effective as they used to be.  They can still be fun to fly since they feel more Trek-y than the escorts and are much more nimble than cruisers.  The lower level cruisers may not be too bad to fly but as you go up in rank the turn rate gets lower to the point where I personally found them frustrating (this was quite a while ago but I don't see any evidence that they've changed significantly since).  From what I've read, the change to RCS consoles that is currently in testing on Tribble helps them in this regard so they might see a bit of a resurgence when that launches.

But honestly, you're not going to be in that ship for very long so just pick what you think sounds fun to you.  If you're really unsure, you can always copy your character over to Tribble and try them out over there without it costing you anything.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Raknor on May 02, 2013, 09:34:38 AM
I just recently leveled to 50 for the first time and I can tell you, if you want to level fast, skip the episodes and just fly to every planet on a map and if a patrol pops up. Do it. They are very simple and rarely do they involve ground combat. It seemed like every episode I ran involved some sort of ground combat that really slowed my progress. At 50 the episodes give much better rewards anyways.

At level 40 save your ship token and go buy one of the many "mirror" vessels off the Exchange. I think I picked up the mirror patrol escort for 60k and I've been using it ever since. I also purchased a mirror science and cruiser which ran me under 250k total for all 3. That way you can test them out and see which you want to spend your token on at 50.

If ground combat is something you like, then bring along 2 engineers and train them in both turret skills at the bridge officer trainer. Turrets seem to be a lot less stupid than your crew and four additional guns makes a huge difference. When I started, I was unaware you could train your away team for very little EC and it makes things so much easier. Once I made the turret twins and my science guy into a healer, ground combat was more of a sprint that only slowed down because the turret abilities were on cool down. Although I still find ground combat clunky as shit and avoid it at if at all possible.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on May 02, 2013, 09:49:25 AM
Hit me up for a free mirror ship or two. I'm sure I've still got a few from popped lockboxen.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on May 02, 2013, 10:10:49 AM
I try to keep several in the fleet bank as well, if anyone needs one.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Reg on May 02, 2013, 10:26:02 AM
I've recently decided to return to STO with the advent of the new expansion.  I signed in last night on my level 24 science guy and found myself totally confused. Skill points, duty officers, even how to drive my ship are all gone from my memory.  Is there any kind of guide to refresh my memory or should I just start a new character from scratch and go through the tutorial?  I've been gone for ages and ages so I'm thinking the new character might be the way to go at least until I relearn the fundamentals.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Special J on May 02, 2013, 01:49:41 PM
Thanks, going to go with Science ship anyways, since they do seem more 'Star Trek-y' and looks like I'll get annoyed by the Cruiser turn rate.

Not racing to 50 so I plan going through the episodes.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on May 02, 2013, 07:53:14 PM
Reg, you can take a look at here, though some of the info is out of date

http://sto.gamepedia.com/Guide:_Basics

http://sto.gamepedia.com/Guide:_FAQ



Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on May 03, 2013, 11:57:50 AM
Thanks, going to go with Science ship anyways, since they do seem more 'Star Trek-y' and looks like I'll get annoyed by the Cruiser turn rate.

Not racing to 50 so I plan going through the episodes.

Cruiser turn rate isn't a problem if you're the right captain for it, which is the Engineer. You buff your shields, always take the highest shield upgrade from missions and become tankasaurusrex.  Toss in an engineer crewman with emergency power to shields and you'll have to worry about very few enemies.

You always need to make sure to have 270d phaser banks instead of other weapons, though, so you can bring the bulk of your firepower to bear at all angles since everything in the universe will outfly you. 

Well, that or learn to fight in reverse like I did so I could bring my torpedoes to bear. But that looks silly.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on May 03, 2013, 03:27:15 PM
Its actually 250 degrees.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Father mike on May 04, 2013, 09:22:10 AM
Having a cruiser (and not an escorted)  for the Fed arc where you're fighting Romulans was easier for me. Trying to kill those torpedoes with forward arc weapons was an exercise in frustration.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on May 04, 2013, 11:04:05 AM
Trying to kill those torpedoes with forward arc weapons was an exercise in frustration.

Yeah, I think when dealing with those, Beam Arrays or Dual Beams with a "Fire at Will" Tac Officer are the best solution.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on May 10, 2013, 10:35:31 AM
Its an open beta weekend this week. Everyone can now sample romulans on Tribble, the test server


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Kitsune on May 10, 2013, 11:56:14 AM
Trying to kill those torpedoes with forward arc weapons was an exercise in frustration.

Yeah, I think when dealing with those, Beam Arrays or Dual Beams with a "Fire at Will" Tac Officer are the best solution.

I have cannons on the front of my Vesta, beams on the back.  All it takes is a slight turn to bring the beams to bear for shooting down incoming projectiles and applying the science ship debuffs to enemies, and I'd be doing that turn in any event to get more distance to line up my next firing run with the cannons.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on May 10, 2013, 01:53:59 PM
This. I run and gun with escorts almost exclusively now and the cannon front/beam back combo rarely lets me down.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on May 11, 2013, 08:52:19 AM
Huh, can't seem to figure out where to join the new Crystalline Catastrophe thingy. Not in my PvE queue.

Edited to add: It seems it's because the event is over. Which is weird, because you can still queue it in the event reputation system thingy. Which I have. And now can't finish. WTF?

Now gotta figure out how to remove that frin ny kust,


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on May 11, 2013, 09:42:56 AM
I played a bit of Legacy of Romulus this weekend in the open beta. Holy shit! The rest of the game seems so much less interesting now that I've played that. And the ship interiors? 10000000X cooler than Federaton and Klingon interiors.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Hoax on May 12, 2013, 11:27:27 AM
KDF to 50, de-rainbowed my guns for the first time but only to cheapcheap Tachyeon XI blues.

Things to do:
-Get the two bridge officer space traits (Leadership and Efficient)
-Doff for the XII field generators I need
-Get purple space doffs for active space duty
-Get boff that can train a boff with Tyken's Rift
-Get Borg stuff because imba (not sure how this works yet, STFs probably)
-Farm Dilithium to get Zen to get the Zen ships that come with engineering consoles that grant an additonal cooldown  :oh_i_see: PWE
-EC farm to buy better and better sets of weapons/tac consoles


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: kildorn on May 12, 2013, 12:10:57 PM
They've done a really good job with LoR so far from what I've seen. My only minor complaint is that there's two ships per tier (one free, one zen), which seems kind of skimpy. And knowing PWE any future ships to fill the gaping holes in playstyle will be zen only.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on May 12, 2013, 02:12:01 PM
Derainbow guns?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: kildorn on May 12, 2013, 02:40:52 PM
Derainbow guns?


I think he's talking about switching to all one damage type so you can stack damage mods.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on May 12, 2013, 03:00:35 PM
Ah. Hmm, not exactly there yet myself. I did spend some fleet credits and upgun my current ship. (Mark XII phaser beam arrays and Mark XII photon torps -- my consoles aren't exactly top-end yet, though).

Unpacked my Breen ship -- don't have one that can mount cannons and had the slot open. :)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on May 12, 2013, 07:39:05 PM
The Breen ship is actually very good, especially given its price (free)

There server had been very unstable of late. But the LOR Open beta has been a rousing success by any measure. When I logged on to check something Saturday afternoon my time there was a queue of 1020 waiting to get in, and that number kept increasing. from what I hear, its been like that all weekend.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Soln on May 12, 2013, 07:44:14 PM
Is there a way to stick to space missions?  I really don't enjoy the ground ones. 


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on May 12, 2013, 08:04:47 PM
If you are talking about story missions, no. they always have a mix of space and ground, with the odd one bieng totally space or totally ground.

If you are talking levelling purposes, then there are patrol missions for the federation that are pretty much all space. Just fly up to a planer and when a box pops up "patrol Blah" click on it. You can only do them once per character which is a shame, there's a LOT of good fun content in them. I must suggest that on the forums actually.

Also there is the "mirror" event, which is basiclly a big fight around a starbase. it comes up in the pve queue when the mirror event is on.

And the Red alerts give good XP as well, of course. Join the REDALERT channel to get people reporting where they are popping up, though its not as active as it once was. And of course there is the space fleet actions in the PVE queue.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on May 13, 2013, 12:43:28 AM
I half-assedly live blogged three hours in LoR on Facebook tonight. You can view it here (https://www.facebook.com/stormwaltz/posts/488187094580332). EDIT: There are story spoilers for the tutorial and first mission.

I routinely nuke all my public posts, so it won't be there past Monday 5/13.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on May 13, 2013, 07:36:32 AM
I half-assedly live blogged three hours in LoR on Facebook tonight. You can view it here (https://www.facebook.com/stormwaltz/posts/488187094580332). EDIT: There are story spoilers for the tutorial and first mission.

I routinely nuke all my public posts, so it won't be there past Monday 5/13.

It looks like you were as impressed as I was. I will say, you're missing some good music on LoR in my opinion. Some of the music they wrote for it is quite excellent.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on May 18, 2013, 03:10:07 PM
Finally capped out my Romulan and Omega reputation. Now...what to buy? :)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on May 18, 2013, 04:00:02 PM
Finally capped out my Romulan and Omega reputation. Now...what to buy? :)

Obligatory: EVE Online.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on May 18, 2013, 04:11:49 PM
lol. Actually grabbed some of the Remen space set stuff -- which ate all my leftover Romulan stuff, which means I need to go breed Epohhs which means I need to go find Epohhs, and started on finishing off my MACO space set. (The Mk XI stuff, not the XII).

There's got to be a better way to earn Omega marks than, well, crappy Omega missions.

I'm still flying the actual ship you're given by the game (Science vessel, I think) for the top-tier. I've got the Breen in storage (don't have decent dual cannons and need to train up another set officers for that), and I've got the Alternative Enterprise (the Enterprise C maybe?) from the anniversery event, but I haven't checked how it stacks up to what I'm flying now.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on May 18, 2013, 07:22:10 PM
The best way to get Omega marks is Special Task Forces. You get a minimum of 60 and probably more. If you join the channel PublicEliteStf you should be able to find people looking for teams.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on May 18, 2013, 08:06:45 PM
The best way to get Omega marks is Special Task Forces. You get a minimum of 60 and probably more. If you join the channel PublicEliteStf you should be able to find people looking for teams.
I've been running the basic stuff. Haven't tried the elite versions. Probably will once I have the full MACO ship set, at least.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Hoax on May 18, 2013, 08:08:48 PM
I'm getting Rom Marks off the Tau Dewa stuff, too bad some of them are straight up broken and you can't do them with anyone else. Grouping is just broken if you try.

Got the Lethean space passive doff pretty easy without dropping 1mil EC, might be some money to be made there if I can get a few more.

Not sure if I can stand the bs to get Borg gear but gonna try for that soon. Need better equip for pvp, but its been a little fun so far though the difference between real pvp'ers and everyone else is insane, top tier setups with experienced pilots all end with X-0 scores, they just can't be brought down.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on May 18, 2013, 08:48:45 PM
What you will probably find is that they are running with Elite adaptive shields, which need a tier 4 starbase sci section to get. The shields give increasing resistances to energy weapons that are fired upon you after a few seconds, and come in 2 types which give a set resistance to 3 energy types. You will find that people run out to clear red alert to swap the shield if they find you are using one of the other energy types. Add in emergency power to shields which gives a resistance bonus and you are looking at something stupidly hard to take down. But don't worry you can get elite fleet weapons in your tier 4 Starbase constructor...

These are pretty much a must have in PVP these days. And they wonder why no-one bothers PVPing. Invest in a set of Transphasic torps, its pretty much your only hope of making a dent.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on May 18, 2013, 10:35:27 PM
I'm still flying the actual ship you're given by the game (Science vessel, I think) for the top-tier.

You're not alone in that. I still fly my dependable, customized Deep Space Science Vessel despite owning the Vesta, Excelsior, and Nebula.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on May 19, 2013, 08:11:32 AM
I've got a ton of Romulan dailies and the entire Romulan planet to do, but frankly I just got confused last time I tried. :)

I did find some weird planet you had to wear a suit and shoot up Tholians on, though. The easy stuff was mind-blowingly easy. The medium stuff I accidentally stumbled on (didn't do the quest, just the area) and I was doing fine.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on May 19, 2013, 08:22:23 AM
That's Nukura, the planet of "randomly run around and shoot Tholians" brain dead fun. And yeah you can do the medium stuff on your own no problem generally.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on May 19, 2013, 10:18:07 AM
That's Nukura, the planet of "randomly run around and shoot Tholians" brain dead fun. And yeah you can do the medium stuff on your own no problem generally.
I just threw down some turrets and it seemed to go fine.

Finally sorted out all the transit points on Romulus and tagged Epohhs. Got one freakin' tag. I guess it works better in a group or something. Still, using Doffs to accumulate Romulan marks through tags is a heck of a lot nicer than running those instances over and over. (Winter Event netted me about 1500 just through Epohh breeding).


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on May 19, 2013, 02:39:49 PM
Your team needs to tag 30 epohhs to get the maximum 4 tags. Like I said. look in Zone chat and type "lfg Fed Epohh Tagging" or whatever. 3 people will get 30 egohhs tagged fairly easily. And its only about 5 minutes out of your day.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on May 21, 2013, 01:22:12 AM
Today's the day. Legacy of Romulus is getting released. Server will be going down for 6 hours and they say it will be up at Noon PDT. Weather report shows crashes.

And the Dominion lock box is getting replaced with the Tal Shiar lockbox (http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/announcement.php?f=250&a=91). Yey.



Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on May 21, 2013, 02:14:56 AM
Tal Shiar lockbox (http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/announcement.php?f=250&a=91)

Note this article contains spoilers for the story of LoR, for those of you who care.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tyrnan on May 21, 2013, 03:54:08 AM
Plasmonic Leech for Feds? Guess they were afraid of all the Roms going KDF for it. Or was it the only console that wasn't available cross-faction at this stage?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on May 21, 2013, 05:29:38 AM
Well considering the Plas leech is utterly and ridiculously broken, why wouldn't they?

The Klingon crying is, of course, epic to behold on the forums.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on May 21, 2013, 06:04:08 AM
Check that shit out.

(http://images-cdn.perfectworld.com/www/27/3a/273a04d016db1c1c8c76c87715b10d931369085323.jpg)

And really? Somebody asked the question, "Q: Since these are dropping as loot, does this mean I'm missing out on other loot I could be getting?" enough times for it to end up on the FAQ? What the fuck is wrong with people?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on May 21, 2013, 06:05:08 AM
It really was one of the only consoles left, really.  And with (hopefully) all the new customers coming with LoR, they wanted to put a strong foot forward with the lockbox.  Which I think they did.  I definitely want both of those ships.  Usually, I only dig one from each lockbox, if even one.  I'm also grabbing the leech for every one of my Fed toons.

Aside from being one of the few genuinely useful consoles, I've never understood why people consider it OP.  Then again, I don't PVP, certainly not in this game.  Maybe it has an unbalancing effect there?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on May 21, 2013, 06:34:22 AM
Imagine all your your power levels suddenly collapsing by 30 because 3 other ships start shooting you, and their power levels going UP by 10. That means they guns are hitting harder, their shields are stronger, they are turning better, their powers are more vicious, whiole the opposite is happening to you. And its also in combination with the Aecton Assimilator, which cuts 15 pits off all the power levels of everything around it. So yeah, it is totally OP in PVP. The crying of the Klingons should be enough proof of that.

In PVE its not so bad I suppose, but it basically gives you something like 10-15 points of free power for sod all downside.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on May 21, 2013, 06:44:01 AM
Yeah but didn't they fix that so multiple ships couldn't stack drains on a single target almost immediately after the console first came out?  Or is it one of those famous Cryptic Fixes that reverts to old behavior even after they say its fixed?

Edit: From everything I've heard about the Aceton Assimilator, it sounds completely broken for PVP.

Edit2:
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The crying of the Klingons
This proves nothing.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on May 21, 2013, 06:54:27 AM
From everything I have heard it stacks. Of course I could be wrong about that. I'm sure the feds will be testing the console out to see if that's the case with a view to rubbing it in the klingon complainers face.

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The crying of the Klingons
This proves nothing.

Yeah, it is pretty much default mode for the klingons.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on May 21, 2013, 07:04:42 AM
Anyway I have no real interest in the escort, but I'm a having my hands on some of this, thank you!

(http://images-cdn.perfectworld.com/www/67/a0/67a086001f89b55e7190bbc9183329931369085763.jpg)

Mind you I'd be terrified of the White star fleet coming after my ass...

Oh yeah, the release notes. http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=10087891#post10087891


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Kitsune on May 21, 2013, 09:02:23 AM
It looks swank, but its multi-faction usability makes it crippled since they didn't give it a battle cloak.  So as a Romulan ship it sorta sucks.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on May 21, 2013, 09:12:13 AM
Meh, the big draw for me on the escort is the shrapnel torpedoes.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: 01101010 on May 21, 2013, 11:04:24 AM
Jesus... those look amazing. Almost enough to make me look at this game again.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on May 21, 2013, 12:49:51 PM
Dude, it's free. Why the fuck not?

That said, I'm glad I pre-patched most of it because it's gonna take an hour to download that last 224 megs. The servers are getting hammered.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tyrnan on May 21, 2013, 01:49:13 PM
Been playing since the servers came back up and it's been surprisingly stable.  74 instances of the flotilla when I logged off just now so I guess Romulans are popular :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on May 21, 2013, 03:47:26 PM
Stable once you get in.

Getting in, on the other hand... Shitshow.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tannhauser on May 21, 2013, 06:28:53 PM
They have really changed up the game, mostly for the good.  Got on a couple of days ago and played around but I got bored.  Might try the Romulans next.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on May 21, 2013, 07:14:07 PM
I'd like to try the Romulans, but apparently everyone is trying to logon. I can't get my character list. Pretty standard major release for anyone. There's never enough machine to handle the temporary influx.

Edited to add: Just did. Kinda digging the new log-in screen. Your crew, ship, ship name...pretty nice.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on May 21, 2013, 07:30:44 PM
Romulan start is awesome. From the movie to the time when you get your ship. Solid all the way.

Now I'm just waiting in the queue for my turn back in after the server bounce. Number 712 of 3162.  :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on May 21, 2013, 07:35:52 PM
I made me a Romulan engineer (Have a federation scientist, a Klingon..something,...and a Fed tactical). I created the character, but logged off when I saw the queue. I can wait.

Do you start at level one, or like Klingons at level 20-something?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on May 21, 2013, 07:38:15 PM
Level one across the board now.

Apparently the Klingon story is pretty kickass too now.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on May 21, 2013, 07:40:39 PM
Level one across the board now.

Apparently the Klingon story is pretty kickass too now.
Well, crud. :) I'm not starting my Klingon over! (Admittedly, he's only like level 36. And I think not that far along).

I really am digging the rotating planet on the login screen, and the ships + crews stuff on the character select screens. The new character creation setup isn't too bad either.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on May 21, 2013, 08:02:11 PM
I just heard the synopsis and knew the new Klingon tutorial was badass.  You start as second officer, and the first officer tries - and fails - to kill the captain for showing cowardice.  Guess how you get your first ship?  :drill:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on May 22, 2013, 12:51:01 AM
At one point there was a queue of 21,300 people.  :grin: Don't change chars or you wind up at the back of the queue btw

Only one emergency patch though, and only 2 downtimes, one of this is going on as I type. That counts a s relatively stable launch. Lots of latency but nothing too bad. If I had a penny for the endless questions about why their new Rommie could not join their fleet at level one though. Read the fricking patch notes.

Some wag was showing off the Plasmoric leach and calling it useless in chat :D


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on May 22, 2013, 05:39:36 AM
Logged on long enough to handle my duty officers to find:

1) hey! I have traits! (quickly picked some. All nice ones, at least as far as I'm concerned).
2) Nukara rep? Goddammit, I'm still getting Romulan and Omega marks for stuff!
3) Hey, warp cores. Dang, now I need a good warp core.
4) More LCARS like interface -- interesting change. At least everything is where it was, so despite the new look I can find my way around without confusion. (Other developers: Take fucking note. Change the look OR change the layout, don't do fucking both at once unless you want an irritated user base).



Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on May 22, 2013, 06:55:54 AM
So. Much. Bitching about how shitty a launch it was last night and how the Romulan story was derivative of Mass Effect and Star Wars. I have finger indentations on my forehead from all the facepalming I did.

With a couple of minor hiccups, this launch was pretty goddamn smooth.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tyrnan on May 22, 2013, 08:10:15 AM
I particularly loved all the forums posts with "devs hate KDF!11!1" on the same day they got 1-20 leveling content and a new tutorial because a) Feds got the leech and b) it was part of the Romulan expansion.  Mostly the same whiny fuckers that have been bitching for 3 years about the KDF not having enough content.  :uhrr:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on May 22, 2013, 09:12:42 AM
Logged on long enough to handle my duty officers to find:

1) hey! I have traits! (quickly picked some. All nice ones, at least as far as I'm concerned).
2) Nukara rep? Goddammit, I'm still getting Romulan and Omega marks for stuff!
3) Hey, warp cores. Dang, now I need a good warp core.
4) More LCARS like interface -- interesting change. At least everything is where it was, so despite the new look I can find my way around without confusion. (Other developers: Take fucking note. Change the look OR change the layout, don't do fucking both at once unless you want an irritated user base).



You can get a green warp core from Nimbus to start you out.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tannhauser on May 22, 2013, 02:20:09 PM
Rushed home thru a tsunami to find I'm 24303 in line to play!  Oh well, I kind of expected it.  Logged on before work very briefly with my new Rom toon.  Newbie area seemed pretty cool and I want to do the tutorial because I have missed all the improvements/updates.  The 'Doffs' are pretty interesting.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on May 22, 2013, 02:25:15 PM
You can get a green warp core from Nimbus to start you out.

There's also an Engineering DOff mission. I've got one running, I'll let you know how it turns out tomorrow.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: ghost on May 22, 2013, 02:25:32 PM
So this is fun now?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Reg on May 22, 2013, 05:09:16 PM
It better be.  I bought the Romulan legacy pack but now I'm distracted by NWN.  I will get around to it eventually though. I figure if I just start a brand new Romulan character that'll be easier than trying to carry on with my level 25 Fed.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tannhauser on May 22, 2013, 05:33:34 PM
After a 1.5 hour wait I got in and did the tutorial and the first two missions.  Not bad.  They just took the server down.  During EST primetime :)

Very glad to get the old Warbird for my first ship.  I doubt I'll play this long though, had quite a bit of playing when the game came out and it kind of bores me.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on May 22, 2013, 05:43:45 PM
I particularly loved all the forums posts with "devs hate KDF!11!1" on the same day they got 1-20 leveling content and a new tutorial because a) Feds got the leech and b) it was part of the Romulan expansion.  Mostly the same whiny fuckers that have been bitching for 3 years about the KDF not having enough content.  :uhrr:

AND they released a couple of new Birds of prey onto the C-Store, in response to the "KDF HAVE LESS SHIPS WAAAAAAAAHHHH" crying.

Frankly if I was a Dev I'd be ignoring those whining jerks.  :grin:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on May 22, 2013, 06:11:35 PM
Honestly, fuck the Klingons. Fuck everybody on the forums, for that matter.

The amount of whining there is legendary. Fuck 'em all. I'm having fun.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on May 23, 2013, 01:32:49 AM
There's also an Engineering DOff mission. I've got one running, I'll let you know how it turns out tomorrow.

Despite having four purples assigned to it, the result was disaster/explosion.

A lesser man would suggest RNG shenanigans.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Kitsune on May 23, 2013, 11:28:29 AM
The doff mission tossed out a purple warp core at me.

Which I promptly put on the exchange for ten million credits.

We'll see just how hungry people are for these things.   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on May 23, 2013, 01:18:23 PM
What rank warp core did it give you?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on May 23, 2013, 05:22:55 PM
I pulled a blue warp core from the mission. A Hyper Injection Mk XI [Eff] [A ->E] [SSR] -- I have no idea what all that means. Seemed okay, so I slapped it on.

Hit my first bug: Finished a Borg mission. "Hail Starfleet" button is greyed out. Despite the "defend the sector" (or whatever) button being checked and "hail Starfleet" as the next step in the mission.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on May 24, 2013, 12:18:02 AM
Heres how it breaks dowm

1-Overcharged: These increase the maximum power setting of auxiliary up to 130, and will also give an auxiliary boost if the natural power setting is 70 or lower (an efficient trait for that power setting).

2-Hyper Injection: These do the same as overcharged, but for engine power.

3-Field Stabilizing; These do the same as the other two, but for shield power.

Note that there is nothing that will do this for weapons, presumably because 99% of the player base would use it.

When you get an uncommon variant, it will come with an additional trait. These include (all numbers posted are for Mk X):

1-Coi: Increases Driver Coil by 15

2-Eff: Increases Starship Warp Core Efficiency by 15

3-EPS: Increases Electro-Plasma System by 15

4-SEP: Increases Starship Engine Performance by 15

5-Bat: Increases Starship Batteries by 15

6-Rep: Increases Starship Subsystem Repair by 15

For blues you get an additional trait.

 Essentially, it will show as X->Y, where X is one power setting (denoted as either W, S, E, or A), and Y is a different power setting (again denoted as W, S, E, or A). Those letters represent the first letter of the power setting in question (example is W = Weapons). So, an example would be W->S. This basically means that 7.5% of your weapon power would be added to your shield power.

Of course Singularity cores are different. hey come in the same three types: overcharged, hyper injection, and field stabilizing. However, there is one difference between the two, and that is instead of increasing the maximum of that power level by 5, and an efficient trait for that same power level, they instead provide a variable 5 to 15 power level increase, based on how charged your singularity level is So at times its best to keep it at fill power

Green versions also have similar additional traits like warp cores, which include:

1-EPS, already noted above

2-GG: +15 to Graviton Generators

3-PI: +15 to Power Insulators

4-PG: +15 to Particle Generators

5-SingA: Increases Singularity Charge Rate by 20%

6-SingC: Reduces the cooldown on Singularity Power Use by 10%

7-SingS: Reduces the rate at which you lose Singularity Power by 20%

Blue versions do not have X->Y like warp cores do. Instead, they get a wide array of tags that boost various Singularity abilities.

Dunno about purples.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on May 24, 2013, 12:22:24 AM
Has anyone figured out how to access previously purchased civilian clothes?

I'm trying to modify a couple of old outfits (formal attire and Bajoran Vedek), and when I enter modification, the entire outfit is being reset, and the costume pieces aren't available in the drop-downs.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on May 24, 2013, 04:49:49 AM
There's a bunch or really odd bugs going round. I tried to join a mirror group only to get booted out 6 times. I cant hand in red alerts. People are complaining about various costume problems. People cannot kill the Crystaline entity again.  :grin:

But the amount of Romulans I see wondering around is jawdropping. You can really make Remans look damn cool with their hood by the way.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on May 24, 2013, 06:16:51 AM
Yeah, the can't hand in red alert things is a pisser. I finally just dropped the one I had completed. I'm leaving my starfleet guy to do doff missions and probably spend time exploring the Romulan side today. (Figure that's better tested, at least the episodes).

I think they snuck in a lot of changes under this -- and not all of it's thoroughly tested. I noticed that the pop-ups in the daily yesterday (the "recover minerals" thing from the Gorn mission) were too big for the box, so some of the letters were missing. They changed all the fonts and popups and stuff to the new system, but didn't check to see if everything fit. (Apparently they don't use an auto-font sizing feature).

I do like that the ship powers are now color-coded for system, so you can differentiate between shield and armor repair powers at a glance. (Not that I need too, but it's nice. Especially for my Klingon alt who I don't play enough to remember what the heck is what).


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tannhauser on May 24, 2013, 06:18:05 AM
The Doff missions are very cool.  I just did a mission where I sent a security team to confiscate contraband on my ship.  It was a critical success and returned two bottles of Romulan Ale.  

That hit me right in the squee-box.  

It's all I can do not to throw a bunch of money at the screen looking for elite deck officers.  I really like their traits and professions, gives them a sort of personality and individualizes them.

The only initial complaint I have is that it seems very hard to focus on one tree, like Diplomacy.  Each sector only seems to have a couple of missions.  Or maybe I'm missing something?  Is it possible to focus on raising one skill like this?  Seems designed to raise multiples at once.  


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on May 24, 2013, 06:44:09 AM
You kinda raise them all at once, really. The DS9 sector (and it's surrounding ones) seem to be very good for trade and diplomacy missions, though. :)

Your officers can also generate missions for you, which is nice. I admit I threw some money at the game to up my doff limit (it's currently at 300, of which I have like 260 officers). Since they started charging out the ass, dilithium wise, for upgrading the things I've been slower to do so. I use the officer exchanges a lot to sorta try to trade up for free.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on May 24, 2013, 07:03:21 AM
YOu kinda have to travel around for diplomacy missions, and any other type of mission frankly. And there are exchange officer missions (one you have completed certain officer chains around the Cardassian/DS9 area) area which can give you higher grades of doffs, whioch is probably the best way to upgrade your whites and greens. And I've never ever had to upgrade my doff limits on any of my characters. 100 officers is fine for me :)

It sworth the expense to buy a blue officer if you are going into this though, they give +10% of the reward as a bonus and a higher chance of criting.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on May 24, 2013, 07:09:05 AM
YOu kinda have to travel around for diplomacy missions. And there are exchange officer missions which can give you higher grades. And I';ve never ever had to upgrade my doff limits on any of my characters. 100 officers is fine for me :)
I found I get way too annoyed if I run out of doffs when I need them. I really only need about 60 (not counting the 10 on duty), but it's like 5 whites to a green, 5 greens to a blue, etc....

I need to zip up some more greens into blues, though.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tannhauser on May 24, 2013, 07:17:37 AM
Ok, is that a mission itself?  Because I haven't seen where you combine/trade doffs for new ones.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on May 24, 2013, 07:19:31 AM
Just be aware that if the Doff has the little Padlock symbolk its bound to you,. and you cant do anything like that with it. All you can do is dismiss it.

Perrsonally I dont really doo doff mission unless they net me 50 Dil so I'm pretty selective and The doffs I have are dewsigned to work with those missions. Also I so some high value doff missions as they are a good way to get fleet marks.

Ok, is that a mission itself?  Because I haven't seen where you combine/trade doffs for new ones.

Its at the personal officer in the academy and later the starbase onces its unlocked.. You can also split higher grade doffs into lower grade ones.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on May 24, 2013, 07:44:05 AM
Apologies for not being specific, but if I tried to write it all down it would be a clusterfucked wall of text.  Basically, keep playing with the system and you will learn which missions are good/bad/worth it/not worth it to take.  It does favor the player raising multiple categories at once, so don't focus on just one, it would be wasteful.  Most of the assignments with the different colored background to them tend to be rather high payout, compared to most, so go for them if you can.

For those trying to expand/improve their roster, the colonization chains give good officers for completion, and the 4028 chain is also good.  When you finish it, it unlocks an assignment called Strike Against Fugitive Support Network, which shows up regularly, gives 2 contraband as a reward, and a dominion prisoner on a crit.  The prisoner can then be exchanged for a gamma quadrant doff, which is generally at least rare quality.  The duty officer exchanges used to be great, but the dilithium cost of it now is crippling imo, and I no longer do them.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on May 24, 2013, 07:59:05 AM
Have a read here for how to get the chains that set up Doff exchange missions and other things.

http://sto.gamepedia.com/Chain

Yes its a wall of text. That's why we don't want to spend the next year typing :D


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on May 24, 2013, 11:47:48 AM
Once you're capped (level 4 commendation) on a type of mission, xp still builds up to a max of 150k. You can do a fleet doff mission (one for each type of doff mission) that takes 10k of that XP and gives you something like 75 fleet marks and maybe dilithium?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on May 24, 2013, 12:30:51 PM
75-100 fleet marks and some expertise.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on May 24, 2013, 03:11:38 PM
My favorite DOff mission - and I've only seen it ONCE since the system came online - was something about scanning a spatial rift. I critted and got a purple El-Aurian Bartender. o_O

If you can crit the mission "Raid Facility 4028 Safehouse," you can get a TON of rewards. 2-3 Commodities, about a half-dozen prisoners (one a blue or purple Vorta), and various bits of equipment.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on May 24, 2013, 05:19:58 PM
Hey, I wanna know what mission that is!

Gotta love the new bugs. Nothing says "fun" like having to join a PvE queue a half-dozen times before you can actually play it. (You join, engage the action, warp in, then warp right the heck out. Judging from the error message there appears to be a bug in the team formation or team check).


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Ginaz on May 24, 2013, 11:11:29 PM
Been playing this a bit the past few days.  I like the new Klingon starting experience and the Romulan storyline has been pretty good so far.  My handle is @foshizzlle (yes, I know its stupid) if anyone wants to do something or throw a guild invite my way.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on May 25, 2013, 01:45:44 AM
Unlocked the Tal Shiar destroyer on a lockbox from a failed borg sector run. Jesus, it's fast. Transwarps through sector space at 20.15
 
There are some drawbacks, chief of which is you don't get any of the cool singularity core tricks you get with your standard Romulan ships and no cloak. The boff stations and the firepower you can kit it out with make up for that though.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on May 25, 2013, 02:03:55 AM
I think it does have a cloak, its that just you can't cloak in Red Alert mode.

My favorite DOff mission - and I've only seen it ONCE since the system came online - was something about scanning a spatial rift. I critted and got a purple El-Aurian Bartender. o_O

Sadly that mission only pops up ONCE per character. I agree its a great one though. That Bartender is surprisingly versatile...


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Simond on May 25, 2013, 04:22:42 AM
My favorite DOff mission - and I've only seen it ONCE since the system came online - was something about scanning a spatial rift. I critted and got a purple El-Aurian Bartender. o_O
You can only get that one once (if you succeed) and I think it always either crits or just fails - you either get notGuinan or it goes back into the shuffle; no 'normal' success.

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If you can crit the mission "Raid Facility 4028 Safehouse," you can get a TON of rewards. 2-3 Commodities, about a half-dozen prisoners (one a blue or purple Vorta), and various bits of equipment.
If anyone gets this, keep hold of the vorta prisoner until you get "Exchange prisoners with Dominion" as a mission. That one gets you a Gamma Quadrant doff (usually blue, sometimes purple, very rarely green/white) as a reward and who doesn't want a Vorta chef? "Oh, is cyanide toxic to your species? Sorry, it tasted fine to me" :awesome_for_real:

There's a couple of other "dominion fugitive" specific missions as well - don't do them. They just give xp/credits/etc. as rewards. Likewise any of them that just need a 'prisoner' - you can get plenty of normal prisoners just marauding.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Pezzle on May 25, 2013, 08:32:15 AM
The vorta prisoner is also a key to maxing espionage fairly easily.  There is an interrogation mission that pops up, using an appropriate blue and one of those vorta I think your failure rate is 1%.  I have picked up 3 and shipped them to different characters. 


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on May 25, 2013, 04:36:46 PM
Hey, did they put in any new crafting recipes with the new season?

And I think my Romulan is going star fleet..


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Ginaz on May 25, 2013, 07:24:37 PM
Is there any reason to sub?  The f2p options seem pretty generous and you don't get a monthly stipend of zen or anything like that like you do with cartel coins in SWTOR. 


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on May 25, 2013, 07:37:08 PM
Is there any reason to sub?  The f2p options seem pretty generous and you don't get a monthly stipend of zen or anything like that like you do with cartel coins in SWTOR. 
Sub gives you 500 zen a month, and unlocks a lot of bank and character inventory slots. Maybe one or two other minor things.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Ginaz on May 25, 2013, 08:01:28 PM
Is there any reason to sub?  The f2p options seem pretty generous and you don't get a monthly stipend of zen or anything like that like you do with cartel coins in SWTOR. 
Sub gives you 500 zen a month, and unlocks a lot of bank and character inventory slots. Maybe one or two other minor things.

Oh, so you do get zen. Well now...


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Simond on May 26, 2013, 02:51:33 AM
The standard SA advice is sub for a month as the bank (etc.) unlocks stay then go F2P.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on May 26, 2013, 10:01:49 AM
How the hell is the "Can't turn in red alerts" bug still there. Inability to turn in a quest seems like the sort of thing that would, you know, get fixed rather rapidly.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on May 26, 2013, 11:08:35 AM
I think they call that a "low priority" bug when compared with the "people getting kicked out of events" bug. But what do I know. The Tau Dewa Ras not working is still not fixed and that has been there for MONTHS.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Simond on May 26, 2013, 01:09:35 PM
Just finished the Romulan intro series and I like that they've actually got an excuse for shoving you into a museum piece this time around - it's actually is a decommissioned warbird from about a century ago but it's the only warp-capable ship you've got at that point (and the first mission you get is "let's go scavenge parts from these nearby wrecks to get this antique working")


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on May 26, 2013, 01:52:10 PM
Yeah. I really liked that part. I wish we could put the warbird paintings on the newer ships.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: 01101010 on May 26, 2013, 03:26:26 PM
Reloaded this back up. Seems I have lost my old account, but doesn't matter since I have wanted a Romulan since the game came out. Seems smoother than what I recall... But then again, I am still on the planet intro.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on May 26, 2013, 04:03:36 PM
It is smoother. They cranked the graphics a bit too.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tannhauser on May 26, 2013, 05:16:39 PM
I had my level 8 Klingon suddenly hit level 21 when I came back!  wtf?  Just got a K't'inga cruiser and it's schweet!  I'm playing four different captains at once.  Jesus.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on May 26, 2013, 10:33:29 PM
Got my Romulan to 22 and flying the sweet, sweet Valdore.  The mission quality has held up very well.  There's a good sequence on board a dormant cube, and another interesting couple of missions involving Hobus, Taris, Iconian gateways, and Tal Shiar brainwashing.

I unlocked the Tal Shiar outfit and it looks amazing.  They took those weird over-padded, super-shouldered jackets from TNG and removed all the suck from them.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on May 27, 2013, 12:03:09 AM
I've completed the Rommie arc now and was very very impressed... Apart from the very last part of "Devils Choice" I do recommend you play the mission , but the third wave of the final battle is freaking impossible.  I do recommend you play the mission as it is actually good fun apart from the very last part. I'll spoiler the rest of my comments but I could recommend you warp out and drop and skip the mission once you see the last part.




Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on May 27, 2013, 07:49:52 AM
I note they seem to have gotten rid of trophies -- at least there's no option in the Romulan bridge for it.

Which reminds me, I need to swap out the bridge on my current Federation starship. It's not got a ready room, and I think I have an episode coming up that requires one.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: 01101010 on May 27, 2013, 09:44:54 AM
Found my old Fed account. Nice to have the option of playing my 'designers' crew again. I must have left a long time ago, because this linking to a PW account was never a thing.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Furiously on May 27, 2013, 10:59:51 AM
So, a lifetime sub is $200 bucks right now.  I don't log in much, but after 14 months.... It would be like free money....


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on May 27, 2013, 02:34:24 PM
I've completed the Rommie arc now and was very very impressed... Apart from the very last part of "Devils Choice" I do recommend you play the mission , but the third wave of the final battle is freaking impossible.  I do recommend you play the mission as it is actually good fun apart from the very last part. I'll spoiler the rest of my comments but I could recommend you warp out and drop and skip the mission once you see the last part.



I went crazy and replayed that mission at 50 to get the blue singularity core. I died a few times but finished that last wave in around 5-10 minutes. I went straight for the objective and it was much easier. I don't know if it would've been as easy originally since my first play took me over an hour and was pure frustration.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on May 27, 2013, 03:18:24 PM
I did it again with the adapted destroyer and purple MK XII weapons and just killed. The end fight was still a bit of a bitch, but I only died twice. Those shrapnel torpedoes and the quad cannons I pulled off the Defiant retrofit just shredded all the small stuff on the first pass.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on May 27, 2013, 03:33:04 PM
Well yeah at level 50 and loaded up with purple gear and access to all your abilities it might be more manageable and you might be able to get near the command ship, but in your level 30s with a mishmash of mission gear on?

And yeah. I'll probably do it again myself for the blue warp core... Kill me. *sob*

On another issue, Cryptic is auto-banning people for mentioning Gold spammer sites twice in any chat in the game. Details in this thread, bring popcorn. I mean I can support their reasons and see their point, but this might be a LITTLE draconian...

http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=702731


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: 01101010 on May 28, 2013, 03:45:56 PM
So I been getting quite a few Tal Shiar lockboxes to drop. Are they worth the price of admission?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on May 28, 2013, 04:23:01 PM
Just like any other lockboxes, mostly no. You will get the occasional cool weapon or mirror ship, but the adapted destroyers are still pretty rare. If you feel like shelling out actual cash for keys, go nuts. Either that, or save 'em til the next flavor of lockbox drops and then sell them.

Hey Rish, could I hit you up for another set of Tron gear?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: 01101010 on May 28, 2013, 05:35:40 PM
Just like any other lockboxes, mostly no. You will get the occasional cool weapon or mirror ship, but the adapted destroyers are still pretty rare. If you feel like shelling out actual cash for keys, go nuts. Either that, or save 'em til the next flavor of lockbox drops and then sell them.

Hey Rish, could I hit you up for another set of Tron gear?

So basically playing the lottery. Yeah that never works out well. Thanks for the info.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on May 28, 2013, 07:49:27 PM
Anyone ever done anything wtih the shuttles? Like the vault event? I've never even launched mine...


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on May 28, 2013, 08:27:02 PM
yeah, the new atmosphere assault event is completely crazy fun.

if you are interested in what you can get out of the tal shiar lockbox and the chances thereof you can look at this http://sto.gamepedia.com/Tal_Shiar_Lock_Box


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Raknor on May 29, 2013, 10:24:19 AM
The standard SA advice is sub for a month as the bank (etc.) unlocks stay then go F2P.

Keep in mind, when the sub runs out, the inventory/bank inventory slots stay. You get respec tokens for every rank up (20/30/40/50).  But what you do not keep is the EC cap increase.  After it runs out you go back to 10mil instead of 1 billion.  I did not see that and lost 12 mil of exchange profits.  Thankfully the alien artifact lottery that gave me a disruptor console sold a day before my sub ran out.  Essentially, you cannot earn any new money but you get to keep what you have already earned.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on May 30, 2013, 04:58:25 AM
If people are affected by the "cannot delete mails" bug, there is a work around. You can log onto Neverwinter or another cryptic game like champions online, and you can delete your in game mails from there.

http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=10475991&posted=1#post10475991


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on May 31, 2013, 02:15:09 PM
If people are affected by the "cannot delete mails" bug, there is a work around. You can log onto Neverwinter or another cryptic game like champions online, and you can delete your in game mails from there.

I have undeletable emails in both STO and NW. This does not seem to work for me.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on May 31, 2013, 03:55:33 PM
Yeah, seems to be a false lead. Sorry.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Furiously on June 01, 2013, 10:51:03 AM
I am addicted to https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhYCXe6RfDINdFk0WTBXYzNxU2ZzNGV5UEw2aGdQbmc#gid=61 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhYCXe6RfDINdFk0WTBXYzNxU2ZzNGV5UEw2aGdQbmc#gid=61)

Duty officer missions are too fun. It's like a collectable card game kinda.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: 90Proof on June 02, 2013, 12:31:27 PM
New player here that just rolled up a Federation aligned Reman, Herja@xolodyne.  I would be interested in Bat Quadrant ... and I have absolutely no clue about what I am doing.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on June 02, 2013, 07:59:00 PM
So what are these glowing red thingies on the main map? Deep Space Encounters, Klingon patrols, that sort of thing?

Edited to add: Don't know if this is a new bug, but the autopilot in sector space seems..problematic. It keeps missing places I'm sending the ship, getting stuck on walls, and basically seems to have some problems. I suspect it's the new warp cores throwing off the math for navigation.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tannhauser on June 03, 2013, 02:42:43 AM
Yes, if you click on them you see how that encounter is to you, level wise.  Get close and you have the option of joining a Deep Space Encounter.  Inside you have to fight a few wave of ships.

I'm pretty sure that has been around since release.  Just have to fiddle around until it lets you enter the system/sector.  Try navigating to an adjacent sector, you ship will 'drag' along the sector wall and the pop-up box should appear.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on June 03, 2013, 06:32:40 AM
I have noticed the autopilot being a little unstable too.  It seems to be giving other ships an even wider berth than before, and it was bad before.  It also seems to disengage more easily than before.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on June 03, 2013, 06:40:21 AM
It seems that the "collision Zone" of ships has been massively increased. I've seem people actually move to block me in sector space now just for giggles, while that would not really have been possible before.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: 01101010 on June 03, 2013, 07:09:08 AM
Since I been re-dabbling in the game, I noticed the tutorial said you could click the quest and it would auto-pilot to the system. I did that and thought, great - going to go grab a drink. Got back and I was at the other side of sector space... thought it was just me.

Noticed plotting a course by clicking on the quest usually sends my ship in varying directions. Plotting it on the map display usually gets it correct.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on June 03, 2013, 07:14:39 AM
Yeah, That's really unreliable. Half the time it only sends you to the person that initiated the quest or the start point of the quest. It simply doesn't work the other half of the time. Its pretty LOL worthy


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Furiously on June 04, 2013, 02:33:41 PM
We need more contributions for the starbase. You should all start playing so I can get a fleet ship. Or I could join a big fleet...


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on June 04, 2013, 03:06:21 PM
I'm contributing when I can. I've just gone broke recently. Though maybe if I stop giving shit away and start selling it instead...


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on June 04, 2013, 05:01:20 PM
We need more contributions for the starbase. You should all start playing so I can get a fleet ship. Or I could join a big fleet...
Hey, I'm donating marks and stuff. I'm just tapped out on dilithium. :)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on June 05, 2013, 06:05:27 AM
Yeah I got cleaned out of dilithium paying for the Embassy upgrade.  The stores are provisioned, by the way.  You can get a fleet ship now.  You could also get an invite to a bigger fleet's starbase.  Even if you use their store it consumes our provisions, so you wouldn't have to leave the majesty that is Bat Quadrant!


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on June 05, 2013, 08:57:35 AM
My fed starbase hastier 4 everything bar engineering. so if you need an invite to my base poke me in game. @suranis is my handle. The only thing is that my fleet has things locked down so you need a certain rank to use provisions, would that affect if I just invite people to the base to use the vendors?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Samprimary on June 05, 2013, 09:07:27 AM
What is the fastest path to getting one of those fleet ships? Is there like a dedicated 'oh, you're stupid? well here am best path to makings of fleet credity thingies..' guide to like, dilithium and fleet wampum


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on June 05, 2013, 10:12:51 AM
Contributing dilithium, fleet marks, and doffs to projects are good ways to earn fleet credits.  When it comes to ships, the fleet credit cost is actually pretty low, the pain comes from buying fleet ship modules, which are 500 zen, or around 5 million ec on the exchange.  Most fleet ships require 4 of them.

Sir T, no permission is needed for guests of a starbase invite to use the general vendors.  Only the provisioned stuff is locked down.  Stuff like the fleet outfit, and doffs, can be purchased by anyone and are in effect unlimited stock.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on June 05, 2013, 01:31:53 PM
I've got a few modules if anyone needs.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Special J on June 06, 2013, 12:15:39 PM
I decided to re-roll and pay for a month of Gold.  Still sticking with science. Got to 22 before re-rolling, back to 14th now.  Rolled a Romulan too of course, not much to add except I love flying around in the TOS Bird of Prey.

EDIT: reading is hard and Red Alert bugs are old news.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on June 06, 2013, 03:48:55 PM
They should've fixed those red alert bugs by now. I got all mine resolved last night.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on June 06, 2013, 05:03:35 PM
They should've fixed those red alert bugs by now. I got all mine resolved last night.
Yeah, i was just about to say that. Thank god, that's easy dilithium and I'm needing it.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on June 06, 2013, 08:19:35 PM
The Nimbus ground zone has three fairly easy dailies as well that you could look at. There's a guy in the bar that gives them out.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on June 07, 2013, 06:15:52 AM
Ooh yeah I forgot about those.  I was planning on going back to them after leveling up my Romulan.  That was a fun little zone.

Surlyboi, did you still need an Aegis set?  I completely forgot you asked for one.  Sorry.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on June 07, 2013, 08:31:09 AM
The Nimbus ground zone has three fairly easy dailies as well that you could look at. There's a guy in the bar that gives them out.
Oh yeah, forgot about him...


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on June 07, 2013, 07:59:40 PM
Would totally take an Aegis set if you've got a spare.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on June 08, 2013, 10:13:25 PM
My sector map got fucked up somehow. I can no longer see systems or system names on it, which was my primary means of navigation (right click on system and set course).

Is this a bug, or did I accidentally turn something off, and there's a way to fix it I can't find?

EDIT: Never mind. I did a space patrol mission, came back out, and it was fine. Bug it is.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: 90Proof on June 11, 2013, 11:11:14 AM
I would really like to see a little more "X-COM" in the ground game and I would not mind some "EVE" hardcore in the space game.  I like the game so far, ran a tactics captain up to 22 before giving in to my alt char creation urges.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on June 11, 2013, 12:44:34 PM
The new fleet holding just got put on the test server.  Fuck.  Just when I thought I was out...


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on June 11, 2013, 02:04:56 PM
Yes you heard it here first..... ITS A BRAND NEW PLACE TO GRIND for!! WOOHOO!!!

http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=746101

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New Features:
Dilithium Mine Fleet Holding

The fleet system has been expanded and players have access to a new Dilithium Mine holding.
Fleet Members can contribute to fleet projects to earn XP for their Dilithium Mine and unlock new tiers, just like with the Embassy Holding.
Can be compared to Embassy for time to progress.
The Fleet Dilithium Mine consists of a space map and an interior map with two parts.
Completing Tiers in the Dilithium Mine?s main track will cause the space map?s visuals to upgrade to the next tier.
The Interior ground map is unlocked at Dilithium Mine tier 1.
Players gain access to the exterior ground map once the Dilithium Mine reaches tier 2.
Like the Embassy, the Dilithium Mine has three tracks:
Dilithium Mine (main track)
This track gains XP and progresses by completing tiers from the two sub-tracks below.
Development (sub-track)
The Development sub-track gains XP by completing repeatable fleet projects. Once enough XP has been earned you will be given an Upgrade special project to unlock the next Development tier. Completing this Upgrade project will grant XP for the Dilithium Mine main track.
Trade (sub-track)
The Trade sub-track gains XP by completing repeatable fleet projects. Once enough XP has been earned you will be given an Upgrade special project to unlock the next Trade tier. Completing this Upgrade project will grant XP for the Dilithium Mine main track.
Provisioning
There is a single provisioning type for each sub-track (Trade and Development) as opposed to several types found in the Starbase and Embassy holdings. These Provisions are earned by completing fleet projects. Below are items that can be purchased with the two types of Provisioning:
Trade Personal Requisition Provisioning
(Ultra Rare) Advanced Engineering Armor Consoles Mk X to Mk XII
(Ultra Rare) Advanced Engineering RCS Consoles Mk X to Mk XII
Development Personal Requisition Provisioning
(Ultra Rare) Advanced Fleet Warp Cores Mk XII
(Ultra Rare) Advanced Fleet Singularity Warp Cores Mk XII
(Ultra Rare) Elite Fleet Warp Cores Mk XII
(Ultra Rare) Elite Fleet Singularity Warp Cores Mk XII
Fleet Rewards
Unlock perks for all fleet members by increasing tiers in your fleet?s main Dilithium Mine, Development and Trade tracks:
Dilithium Mine (Main Track): Below are some examples of the rewards unlocked by gaining Tiers in the Dilithium Mine track
Three tiers of Dilithium Input Discounts
Three tiers of the Dilithium Store Discounts (Contruction Project)
Daily Dilithium Mining Missions
Daily Ore Refining Mission
Trade (Sub-Track): Below are some examples of the rewards unlocked by gaining Tiers in the Trade sub-track
Three tiers of Item and Commodity Input Discounts
Two tiers of Improved Call Trade Freighter (reduces cooldown on Call Trade Freighter power)
Development (Sub-Track): Below are some examples of the rewards unlocked by gaining Tiers in the Development sub-track
Three tiers of high Dilithium and Energy Credit awarding Duty Officer assignments
Three tiers of Fleet Mark fleet project input discounts
Three tiers of special Miner Duty Officers


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Furiously on June 12, 2013, 02:33:07 PM
Double mark weekend!


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on June 21, 2013, 09:21:52 AM
Summer Event!






Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on June 21, 2013, 11:45:00 AM
I thought I'd blundered into the FF thread until the "catamaran" spaceship.  :headscratch:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on June 24, 2013, 01:10:13 AM
Ah, the three Nimbus III daily missions.

One is perpetually broken because all of the four potential quest trigger objects get stuck in a "permanent on" state and can't be used by anyone else.

One is a "tag X of randomly selected items" quest where one of the items you may be assigned to scan doesn't increment the quest, so ~50% of the time you can't complete it.

Yeah. Cryptic.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on July 03, 2013, 09:41:56 AM
So, the latest "Buy 2, get one free" ship is the dreadnaught Warbird, otherwise known as the Scimitar, to no-ones surprise.

(http://images-cdn.perfectworld.com/www/22/c2/22c2b2deb23d1d561115677bdf14f1291372792329.jpg)

(http://images-cdn.perfectworld.com/www/4a/15/4a15db95d7d8a63bd4dc1595ea78c4a11372717224.jpg)

http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=930741

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Required Rank: Vice Admiral
Faction: Romulan Republic
Hull Strength: 40,000
Shield Modifier: 1.1
Crew: 3,000
Weapons: 5 Fore, 3 Aft
Device Slots: 4
Hangar Bays: 1
1 Scorpion Fighter Hangar Pet
Base Turn Rate: 7 degrees per second
Impulse Modifier: 0.15
Bridge Officer Stations: 1 Commander Tactical, 1 Lieutenant Engineer, 1 Lieutenant Science, 1 Ensign Universal, 1 Lieutenant Commander Universal
Can Equip Cannons
Singularity Warp Core
Romulan Battle Cloaking Device
Singularity Abilities

The Scimitar-class most closely resembles the original model, designed for raw firepower.

This ship comes with a Cloaked Barrage console. The console briefly distributes your Singularity Core's energy to both your Cloaking and Weapon systems. Activating this console will allow you to fire your weapons while cloaked for a brief period of time. After this effect expires, your weapon power will be significantly drained.

Class-Specific Stats (in addition to the base stats listed above):

    Console Modifications: 5 Tactical, 2 Engineering, 3 Science
    +10 Weapon Subsystems, +5 Engine Subsystems
    Console – Universal – Cloaked Barrage

The Falchion-class has an Engineering focus and gains two Engineering console slots at the cost of two Tactical console slots.

This ship comes with a Secondary Shields console. This potent defensive console creates a secondary layer of shielding around your ship that operates on a different frequency than standard shielding. These secondary shields will absorb damage before your primary shields or hull is damaged.

Class-Specific Stats (in addition to the base stats listed above):

    Console Modifications: 3 Tactical, 4 Engineering, 3 Science
    +10 Shield Subsystems, +5 Engine Subsystems
    Console – Universal – Secondary Shields

The Tulwar-class has a Science focus and gains two Science console slots at the cost of two Tactical console slots.

This ship comes with a Singularity Distributor Unit console. While equipped, the Singularity Distributor Unit is capable of passively redirecting power from your Singularity Core to allow for shields to be up even while cloaked.

While equipped your vessel will suffer no Shield Power drain while Battle Cloak is active, additionally, your shield systems will not be brought offline. This console also helps to mask your ship's Singularity Power signature, diminishing the Singularity's impact on your ship's Cloaking Device.

Class-Specific Stats (in addition to the base stats listed above):

    Console Modifications: 3 Tactical, 2 Engineering, 5 Science
    +10 Auxiliary Subsystems, +5 Shield Subsystems
    Console – Universal – Singularity Distributor Unit


The Cloaked Barrage, Secondary Shields, and Singularity Distributor Unit can be equipped on any Romulan Dreadnought Warbird. Together, they are the Advanced Scimitar Systems Set.

The two-piece set bonus gives the ship Rapid Maneuvering Thrusters, which increases the ship’s turn rate. In addition, it allows the Scimitar to maintain the turn bonus from cloaking after exiting cloak for the duration of their Cloaking Ambush.

The three-piece set bonus is Thalaron Pulse. This allows you to deliver a massive blast of Thalaron Radiation to all enemies in front of your ship. Due to the weapon's power, it requires twelve seconds to charge up before firing. During this charging period, enemies can potentially flee to avoid the attack. Any enemies that are affected will suffer continuous radiation damage and crew damage for 12 seconds after being hit. This cannot be used while cloaked, even with the Cloaked Barrage console active. Additionally, if your ship is destroyed while equipped with all three consoles, it will leave behind a cloud of Thalaron radiation. This radiation deals continuous crew damage to any ships within it.

Turns like an Excelsior before the maneuvering bonus from the 2 part console set. 5 tac slots. 5 forward guns. And a hanger bay with super special fighters (see the link) This thing was designed to print money.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on July 03, 2013, 10:48:10 AM
My Romulan character is still level 1. :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on July 03, 2013, 11:09:21 AM
Congratulations, citizen!


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Ingmar on July 03, 2013, 12:55:19 PM
Stormwaltz, you seemed like a much happier person when you were playing LotRO instead of Cryptic games.  :wink:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Raknor on July 03, 2013, 01:54:25 PM
In those screenshots, do the first three wings open up like the second screen shot?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on July 03, 2013, 01:58:00 PM
That second shot looks like a borged out version.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on July 03, 2013, 04:48:48 PM
In those screenshots, do the first three wings open up like the second screen shot?

They are all effectively the same ship, just different costumes and console layouts, so yeah. The Thalaron blast is what everyone has been jizzing about so it would be ridiculous if they all couldn't do it. Siting still for 12 seconds while it powers up doesn't seem like much fun to me though. I'll bet people are already crying that the Thalaron blast is useless in PVP.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on July 03, 2013, 09:16:27 PM
Stormwaltz, you seemed like a much happier person when you were playing LotRO instead of Cryptic games.  :wink:

Let me bend your ear about that no-opt-out, Hobbit present slot machine, and how recent LotRO zones have switched over to WoW's model of "you must complete all quests in area A before you can get any quests in area B."


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on July 05, 2013, 10:44:48 AM
Space is littered with scimitars.  Looks like it was a smashing success.  I was doing ISE last night and noticed two borg probes attacking shit and was confused until I realized it was the drones from the scimitar.  Pretty neat.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on July 06, 2013, 08:19:25 AM
Huh. I've been too busy and missed the event, sadly. Oh well!


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on July 06, 2013, 01:36:36 PM
It's running until August 15, but for some reason you only have until the 2nd to get the ship.

You panicked me, Morat. This event is so damn grindy, all I've gotten out of it is a pair of shorts (which I can't use, because the costume editor is throwing errors) and the exploration achievements.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on July 07, 2013, 04:39:49 AM
I haven't bothered with it, same as I didn't bother grinding for the Breen ship in the winter event. Anything that reguires me logging in constantly to get is a no no. I haven't really played in a couple of weeks as I'm taking a break. I did look in yesterday to check out if it was Scimitars online. Yep.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on July 08, 2013, 06:06:20 AM
It may require logging in constantly, but it takes 3 minutes to do, so it's not like a horrible burden or anything.  That said, I'm only doing it with one character this time.  I got the Breen ship for all 7 alts last time and I'm still traumatized from it.

There's really not a whole bunch to do on Risa, but the map is beautiful and the superior jetpacks are worth it, even though they only work there.  The clothes suck, especially when you are surrounded by a bunch of npcs in various swimwear.  You basically get the equivalent of a burlap sack, and I'm not even really exaggerating there.  I have been grinding away on the statue hunts, but that's mainly to get eggs to convert to Nukara marks, which are a pain to get.  The pets themselves are nice, but buggy.  Half the time I bring them out, they just sit there and don't follow you.  I'm also stockpiling so I can afford the inevitable fleet decoration project.

Which reminds me, either tomorrow or Wednesday the mine will be operational, so Bat Quadrant can grab those reaaaally nice warp cores.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on July 12, 2013, 10:54:45 AM
For those interested, Bat Quadrant now has warp cores and mining doffs.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Special J on July 12, 2013, 01:09:12 PM
I've been grinding for the ship since its a pretty quick quest.  Has anyone cashed in a Lobi crystal for Pearls?

Not sure about the other items, maybe just sell marks for quick cash.

My rerolled main is back to lvl 27 and I got Ambassador class ship from finishing the first long quest chain, though it seems I only have any luck with Science ships.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on July 12, 2013, 01:20:10 PM
The Ambassador you get for that is a good captains ship but is not the Vice admiral version. You have to get that from a star-base. Tier 3 I think, but probably wrong about that.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on July 12, 2013, 01:56:01 PM
They give you both. You just can't use one til VA.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on July 12, 2013, 01:57:10 PM
I thought they stopped giving the RA level one after the anniversary event?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on July 12, 2013, 04:44:40 PM
They did. You only get the Captains version.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on July 25, 2013, 07:23:37 AM
(http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/image.php?u=44233581000&type=sigpic&dateline=1374323674)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on July 25, 2013, 07:49:42 AM
I think the guy who created that was too optimistic.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on July 25, 2013, 09:03:53 AM
Indeed.  I am under no illusion that my fleetmates will contribute dilithium to projects.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on July 25, 2013, 09:18:26 AM
In my small fleet, I think I'm the only one still kicking into anything. I'm currently trying to scrape together the final few science officers to finish our Tier II comm array, which I've so far done by myself, and spent a couple months unlocking by myself.

For me, dilithium is currently far less of a problem than officers. I don't have the EC resources to buy them at crazy AH prices, so they're trickling in from the SFHQ DOff missions at 2-5 every two days. EDIT: For reference, the Tier II array requires 80 Sci/Med Officers.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on July 25, 2013, 09:59:31 AM
Indeed.  I am under no illusion that my fleetmates will contribute dilithium to projects.  :awesome_for_real:

I still do. I'm just tapped out at the moment.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on July 25, 2013, 12:06:15 PM
I'm not playing much so suddenly the fleet projects have ground to a halt in my fleet. Strange coincidence.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on July 25, 2013, 01:09:23 PM
My statements should in no way be interpreted as a goad to members of Bat Quadrant to get their shit together.  In fact, I'm a little annoyed that so few purchases have been made from the fleet stores that I spent so much time stocking! 

It may take me a while to complete some projects because I need to earn more dilithium, but I'll get there.  That's not the problem.  We need fleet marks.  The upgrade projects for the mine require no dilithium, but they take it out of you in fleet marks.  I got wiped out just getting the place to Tier 1.  The Tier 2 mine upgrade is something like 17000 marks, and that's after 5000 marks to get one of the sub-facilities upgraded to Tier 2, which is after all the marks spent on xp and provisioning projects.  Sooo.. it might be a while before we see the Tier 2 mine.  Meanwhile though, UR warp cores are available, and they're pretty nice.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Raknor on July 29, 2013, 09:40:44 AM
Is dil just not that big of a deal to old vets?  I seem to be constantly out as a new player. The fleet I'm in had an embassy upgrade project that needed 1 million dil.  It sat there for a few days and then was filled entirely by one person that I've never even seen online before. 


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on July 29, 2013, 10:09:46 AM
Speaking for myself, I have ten alts.  Only half of them are characters I actually play or give a damn about.  The rest are logged in once a day to turn in contraband, run a few duty officer assignments that reward contraband, and do the academy daily.  That's 2500 dilithium minimum per character per day, spending maybe two minutes with each one.  My two klingon alts are able to gather enough quantities of contraband to supply themselves and everyone else.  You can use the dilithium exchange to transfer it between characters as well.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on July 29, 2013, 10:18:26 AM
Speaking for myself, I have ten alts.  Only half of them are characters I actually play or give a damn about.  The rest are logged in once a day to turn in contraband, run a few duty officer assignments that reward contraband, and do the academy daily.  That's 2500 dilithium minimum per character per day, spending maybe two minutes with each one.

I do what Rishathra does, plus the three dailies on Nimbus (one of which is broken half the time), plus rescuing the Sh'mar in Eta Eridani, and mining dil when the bonus times line up with my personal life. That gets me 5-7k dil a day. I often end up "banking" my mining mission - accept it and sit on it until that bonus time is available. Since STO's daily timer starts counting when you accept a mission, you can accept it one day, then run it twice in a row the next and get 3k dil for it.

I only have one character, because I've never been an alt guy. If I had the patience to do this with multiple characters, I'd probably be a millionaire too.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Special J on August 01, 2013, 01:35:34 PM
Help out a n00b?  How does one run contraband for dilithium?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on August 01, 2013, 05:36:38 PM
The mission is (Fed-side) is only available from security officers - one in the center of Earth Space Dock and one on the DS9 promenade outside the bank. The mission's called "Turn Over Confiscated Contraband" and requires one security officer and 5 Contraband. There's no chance to crit, so you can just dump a common/white trash DOff on it.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on August 15, 2013, 09:02:59 AM
They've been giving out free stuff from the store this week, something different every day.  Monday was the DS9 uniform, Tuesday was the TOS dress uniform, and Wednesday was the Yellowstone/Tu'duj.  Today and tomorrow are supposed to be ship giveaways, so if anyone is interested, it might be worthwhile to log in for a few seconds and grab them.  One nice thing is that they count as actual store purchases, which means permanent account wide unlock.

I think the shuttle is still available for another hour or two, if anyone is near their computer.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on August 15, 2013, 09:59:33 AM
Thanks for reminding me.

Sadly, I can't seem to connect to their login servers this morning.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on August 15, 2013, 02:11:45 PM
Oh Hai, New lockbock.

http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=957771


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on August 16, 2013, 06:22:50 AM
I'm definitely going to get some of the crescent weapons, just because I like the visuals.  I'll probably go for the Monbosh too, once the price comes down a bit.  The destroyer is nice, but I already have a bunch of nice destroyers.  I don't have a character I could use it on.  Everything else is meh.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on August 18, 2013, 01:40:26 PM
The romuborg destroyer is still the best ship I've flown in this game. Those goddamn crescent weapons are handy though.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on August 19, 2013, 06:34:55 AM
So what makes the adapted destroyer special?  Honest question.  I have several lockbox destroyers already, like the temporal, and didn't see anything about the adapted one to make it stand out, other than that nice warp core.  Is the shrapnel torpedo that excellent?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on August 19, 2013, 09:43:20 AM
The core, the shrapnel torps, and the battle cloak. Combined, they're a solid package.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on August 19, 2013, 09:48:50 AM
Battle cloak?  I thought the adapted stuff didn't have that?  Well, I can see why it's awesome then.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Kitsune on August 19, 2013, 12:40:14 PM
They don't, the Borgulan ships have neither singularities nor battle cloaks.  They still have cloaks, so you can still get a good alpha with them and if you idle long enough between fights to exit red alert you can re-cloak, but neither of them are warbirds.

They do look bitchin' cool, however.

I've been having a good time with my two warbirds, a T'Varo refit with the advanced cloak where I can use consoles and torps from cloak, and with a huge-ass plasma bomb attack that really lays waste to whatever it hits while I trollolololol away in cloak, and a Mogai with its shield-absorbing console paired with the plasmonic leech console where I just fly in and disco ball beams everywhere absorbing the hell out of everything's shields and power.

On the klank side, I took my marauding mule out in actual fights over the weekend to get to level 40 for the free carrier offer, and can say that sticking three double cannons on a BoP has to be one of the most fun things ever.  Click the rapid fire button, click the high yield torpedo button, uncloak, watch as the ship in front of me just melts when the shields collapse just in time for the torpedo barrage to hit.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on August 20, 2013, 02:14:05 AM
So, my client stopped working tonight. It crashes before the character select screen comes up.

I tried verifying the files through the patcher, and uninstalling and reinstalling via Steam. Still crashes.

Anyone else seeing something like this?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on August 20, 2013, 07:37:04 AM
I've stopped playing largely because by client crashes constantly on changing maps. Like every 1 in 4 map changes. REALLY freaking annoying.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on August 20, 2013, 10:12:15 AM
My client started crashing regularly after the release of LoR.  I got it to stop by lowering character texture detail down to 75%.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on August 20, 2013, 10:31:41 AM
I can't even get to the point where I can access graphics options. Seems I'm having the same problem with Neverwinter, too.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Simond on August 20, 2013, 10:38:19 AM
I've stopped playing largely because by client crashes constantly on changing maps. Like every 1 in 4 map changes. REALLY freaking annoying.
Turn off dynamic patching.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Reg on August 28, 2013, 10:52:04 AM
I've been back and playing with the Romulan expansion for about a week now and it's just amazing.  If the Federation storyline had been even half as fun I would have played a lot longer.  I'm liking it so much that I've even resubscribed for 3 months.  I figure I should be able to max out my Fed and my little Romulan by then.

And even better I've just learned how to turn off those damned annoying lockbox messages!


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on August 29, 2013, 12:10:21 AM
Oh, because it's fair to say - my problem wasn't due to Cryptic or PWE - turns out Raptr screwed up something in an update they pushed that weekend.

Perhaps unsurprisingly given their smaller staff, Raptr is proving even slower and less responsive to tech support requests (there are at least three threads about issues with the last update borking games).


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Reg on September 04, 2013, 07:47:46 PM
So I just got my Federation science guy to Vice Admiral and I'm wondering what ship I should buy for him.  Any suggestions?  I've been looking at those multi-mission ships and they look pretty attractive.  If I get the 3 ship bundle I'll get all 3 of the universal consoles.  Are they worth having?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on September 04, 2013, 11:59:14 PM
The Vesta? Yes the Vesta is a really strong ship, probably the strongest of the sci ships, and the abilities of the 3 pack are really strong.

Get either that or a Caitian Carrier.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Kitsune on September 05, 2013, 11:58:23 AM
The Vesta is what I use for my fed character, and it manages to lay waste.  You need to defy conventional wisdom to use it, however, as most of its powers rely on aux power and most people dial aux down to bare minimum to crank up weapon power.

(http://i.imgur.com/o3XwuPx.png)

Three aux phaser cannons in the front, drawing on aux power.  Two phaser turrets and the Romulan prototype plasma beam in back drawing on weapon power (the beam is just there for subsystem disabling attacks).  Romulan Scorpion fighters to provide the kinetic damage in lieu of having a torpedo mounted on the ship.  Three phaser-boosting consoles and the plasmonic leech console for free power drained from everything I'm shooting.  The three Vesta consoles for access to those abilities and buffs.  The tachyokinetic console and RCS accelerator to give the turn rate needed to effectively use the cannons.

People are all 'but wryyyyy, never use the aux cannons, put normal cannons on and max weapon power'.  Here is why they're wrong: If you pile cannons and turrets on a ship, go out and shoot with it and keep an eye on your weapon power.  Watch as it drops from 100% to fuckallempty in the space of like two seconds.  Having that many guns drawing on your weapon power all firing at the same time will massively deplete your power.  With my setup, you have three guns on aux, two guns on weapons, and the Romulan beam doesn't decrease weapon power when fired, so none of my power levels are being diminished significantly.  When you throw in the plasmonic leech effect, my power levels actually shoot up when I'm in a fight, so my guns are all fully charged and happy.  I then cruise around space, flaying shields off of targets in moments with my cannons while my fighters throw out piles of plasma torpedos to finish everything off.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on September 05, 2013, 12:42:13 PM
I'm used to investing heavily in Aux, since my sci character's skills pull off it. I believe Aux-powered weapons allow you to get around the power penalty for mounting multiple "frequencies" of beams. Have, say, tetryon pulling aux and disruptor pulling weps.

I keep a Borg Cutter (360 arc) in an aft slot (it still contributes to my forward firepower) with the Borg Universal module stuck somewhere for the set bonus. I have Advanced Scorpion Fighters from Romulan rep. As a Sci, I also get Photonic Fleet, and I have the Nimbus pirate distress call for emergencies. In battle, I can produce a whole goddamn flotilla out of nothing.  :grin:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Kitsune on September 05, 2013, 01:05:16 PM
I avoid mixing flavors of weapon since it makes it harder to boost them with consoles.  Everything onboard is phaser except the plasma beam, as its function is more for debuffing than damage, and the all-phaser nature of the ship makes the three phaser consoles in my tactical slots very effective.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Reg on September 05, 2013, 01:27:32 PM
Thanks for the reminder that the phaser cannons that came with the ships used Aux power. I'd read that but forgotten about it.  And it didn't occur to me to steal the phaser cannons off the other two ships in the bundle either though I did remember to transfer the universal consoles over. As far as bridge officers go I've got a Science Commander and a Science Lieutenant Commander in the universal slot and Engineering Ensign in the universal ensign slot along with the Engineering and Tactical lieutenants.  I'll probably experiment with the universal slots until I find a combo I like.

My little Romulan is already up to Commander. I think I'll give him a rest until I feel like spending another 50 bucks on ships.  Although I do like him a lot. I had no idea that playing a Tactical would have such a different feel. Once he's maxed I guess I'll go for a Klingon Engineer.

So how do Fleet Admirals work? Is this a deal where you join a guild and build shipyards to get the upper tier ships or something like that?



Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on September 05, 2013, 01:30:46 PM
I avoid mixing flavors of weapon since it makes it harder to boost them with consoles.

I tend to pack torpedo consoles myself, but that works for me because I also have Officer skills and beams designed to tear through shields.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on September 06, 2013, 06:29:05 AM
So how do Fleet Admirals work? Is this a deal where you join a guild and build shipyards to get the upper tier ships or something like that?

Fleet admirals are just a proposed idea, nothing concrete, about when/if they raise the level cap, instead of releasing more powerful ships, they will just make it like your away team, but in space, towing a little group of ships around with you.

Also, yes, that's one of the aspects of a fleet starbase.  When you upgrade the shipyard, you unlock more ships to buy from it.  Strictly speaking, the ships you unlock don't get more powerful the higher up you go, you just get more kinds to buy.  There's a 'fleet' version of almost every ship, but only one per ship.  Higher tiers of shipyard unlock more fleet variants.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Reg on September 06, 2013, 08:16:19 AM
Very cool. Well I don't need any more ships just now. I'm still learning how to use this Vespa properly.  (And I feel just slightly ashamed for dropping 50 bucks on the silly thing.) :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on September 06, 2013, 08:59:44 AM
Well, with the Vesta you don't have to worry.  The stats on it are already 'fleet equivalent,' so it doesn't have a fleet version.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Kitsune on September 06, 2013, 09:17:49 AM
Through a strange series of events that included microbiology and chemistry, I came into possession of a Jem'hadar Attack Ship late last night, roughly decupling my net worth.  I'm now trying to decide whether to give it to an existing character or buy a character slot specifically for a Jem'hadar gimmick character.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Reg on September 06, 2013, 09:19:52 AM
Ack. Now I have to learn the difference between my brand new awesomely powerful science ship and an Italian scooter!

fake edit: Gimmick character all the way!


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: climbjtree on September 07, 2013, 09:14:51 AM
I'm level 12 or so, and a Romulan tactical officer flying with the Feds. I'm interested in not flying escorts... cruisers would be more my style. I've also spent none of the advancement points you gain when you level up.

Where should they go?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Miasma on September 07, 2013, 09:29:39 AM
In Steam why does the "Legacy Pack" show up as an absurd $160?  I'm bored and am downloading the free version but where on earth do they come up with that price for, whatever it is?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Reg on September 07, 2013, 10:36:31 AM
That's the super expensive Romulan pack.  There's another Romulan legacy pack for 20 bucks that is a lot more reasonable. It comes with a nice starting warbird and an end game ship as well.

climbjtree: I'm not an expert on where to put training points. I just put them wherever seemed to make sense. Like my science abilities and things to boost the ships tankiness.  I even maxed out a few tactical skillls so I'd be able to fight a little better.  For me it's no big deal because as a subscriber I get a free respec token with every promotion so I've got 4 or 5 of them at this point.  Now that I'm at max level and not getting anymore skill points I should probably do some real research into it and use a token.  'Cause I'm certain that I'm nowhere near optimized from a powergamer's point of view. Even though with my new ship I feel ridiculously overpowered and haven't lost a fight yet.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on September 08, 2013, 08:08:38 AM
In Steam why does the "Legacy Pack" show up as an absurd $160?  I'm bored and am downloading the free version but where on earth do they come up with that price for, whatever it is?

Here's the Legacy pack:
http://sto.perfectworld.com/legacypack/legacy

10 ships, borg crew member, unique race (Remen), a duty officer pack, 30 lockbox keys, 2 unique uniforms, and 3 titles.

I don't think it's worth it, myself, but based on their prices for everything else it is a bargain at $160.  The keys alone are $30, ships run from $10 to $25, duty officers are $2, uniforms are $5.50.

I never used my lower-end ships again once I ranked-up, so I can't understand paying for all the low-level ships. Level-up, hit VA and maybe buy a ship a month after capping and know if you're going to play any more.  I found it wasn't sticky enough to keep me once I hit 50, though, so I regret having purchased the high-end cruiser pack at 50.



Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on September 08, 2013, 01:22:33 PM
The lower level ships are good when you are leveling, they provide nice costume options, and they have consoles that provide a set bonus for their bigger cousin when matched with IT'S console. The D;Deridex set makes the big D'D more maneuverable, for example.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Reg on September 08, 2013, 01:32:11 PM
Man I just got into my first D'Deridex and compared to the light warbirds I'd been in up until now it's a battleship except harder to turn.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on September 08, 2013, 01:35:24 PM
Remember that it turns much faster when it is cloaked, so if you equip cannons you can get into a very satisfying Fire- cloak- fire rhythm. Probably would work well with beams too.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on November 24, 2013, 03:37:16 PM
I started playing again. Season 8 is out. There's some new missions and they seem to have made various marks easier to get (the choice of marks boxes are quite nice).

There's yet another Starbase project thing...good lord, they really need to give some sort of bonus to small fleets to make it possible to do things like that.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tannhauser on November 24, 2013, 04:48:48 PM
I've been playing fanatically for about a week now.  Created a new Fed and just use him for episode missions.  He's 31 now and I have a sweet Galaxy-class cruiser.  The Legacy of Romulus xpac has really made this game good.  Got a Fed and Rom at 50.  The Sphere stuff is pretty cool. I like the ground zone objectives.  It's pretty fun with others to take down a dinosaur with a frickin' laser beam on its head!

But I've got so much story stuff to catch up on (going to level a Klingon next), that I don't mess with The Sphere much.

If you're like me and quit this game a long time ago, you should try it again.  It's super-casual, at least how I play it.  Plus you can do a LOT of stuff without spending a dime.  Very generous F2P model.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: cironian on November 25, 2013, 10:04:18 AM
Also picked it back up for now. Anyone I should hit up to get into the Batfleet or is that totally dead now?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on November 25, 2013, 01:03:42 PM
Well, really it's always been totally dead.  :awesome_for_real:

Honestly I haven't played in months, and I'm technically the fleet leader.  I'm sure there's still stuff in the fleet store.  I guess I should start up again to get the new holding up and running.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Lantyssa on November 25, 2013, 03:52:06 PM
And invite me in, too, please.  Vhashik@lantyssa, I think.  I know you're in my friends list, so you can double-check the @ bit.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tannhauser on November 25, 2013, 05:31:15 PM
Soruk@Tannhausergates  if I could get an invite.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on November 25, 2013, 08:43:40 PM
I haven't checked out the new ep yet.

Apparently, there's a Mac client now too, so I have even less of an excuse to not play.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: cironian on November 25, 2013, 10:27:13 PM
Ah yes, the character name might help for the invite. Send one to Josh@Cironian please.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on November 26, 2013, 06:08:19 AM
I'll send all those invites out tonight once I get home from work.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on November 26, 2013, 06:27:09 AM
The Mac client is a beta and it shows. The rendering is a little wacky and the hard lock-ups are legion. That said, it's still not half bad. And it eats less battery than the windows client.

The sphere intro mission not bad. There's a shitload of fan service in it.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on November 30, 2013, 01:57:00 PM
I sent out the invites and started up Spire projects. :)

Sadly I'm tapped out of dilithium, there's an embassy project for a commodities vendor that's well worth it, but we need another 86k dilithium to finish.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on November 30, 2013, 06:29:14 PM
I'd join and give the dil but I;d have to transfer 11 chars over  :why_so_serious:

Actually I might join with one char and transfer over the dil to it. I'll see what chars I have free


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 01, 2013, 03:20:44 PM
Send a fleet invite to Hirven@Suranis. Thanks!


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tannhauser on December 01, 2013, 04:22:07 PM
The starbase looks cool, I especially like the aquarium. 


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on December 01, 2013, 05:41:26 PM
We still need to get it up to level three so I can get a fleet defiant.

That said, the Dyson sphere content is good, but so far, not very fulfilling story wise.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tannhauser on December 01, 2013, 05:46:51 PM
What goal should we be contributing to?  There's a lot there, embassies, etc.

Also, do we schedule for our base to get attacked?  How do base defenses work?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 01, 2013, 08:56:40 PM
At the moment, I'm trying to get the Spire online and then the Dilithium mine. However the embassy is close to hitting tier 3. However, that's not official -- that's "Morat was the only guy around with permissions as Rishathra wasn't playing.

Frankly, I just donate the cheap stuff whenever I can (basic supplies, experience, and fleet marks) and only really get picky when it comes to personnel or dilithium.

Turn on the 2012 Christmas decoration sometime -- it's in the center of the starbase, stand on the glass floor and the option pops up.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 02, 2013, 05:48:30 PM
Send a fleet invite to Hirven@Suranis. Thanks!
Says you're already in a fleet. Possibly Bat Quadrant, although I didn't see you in the roster..


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 02, 2013, 06:02:42 PM
Oh, I have to have that char leave the fleet I'm in first? I didn't know that. No problem, I'll do that tomorrow. Sorry about that.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 05, 2013, 12:11:59 AM
Ok My char is in and I got the commodities vendor running, but that cleaned my chars out of Dil. Hope it was worth it :)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 05, 2013, 06:50:08 PM
Ok My char is in and I got the commodities vendor running, but that cleaned my chars out of Dil. Hope it was worth it :)
AWesome! I didn't notice yet.

It's a nice place to buy crap for all the reputation grinding at a sizeable discount.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: 5150 on December 06, 2013, 04:36:55 AM
I seem to remember last year there is/was a cunning way to use the xmas even to grind Romulan faction through Epohs (or however they are spelt)

Can someone fill in the blanks for me please, I've looked at the Romulan section of the reputation system but don't recall seeing any projects that needed Epohs?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 06, 2013, 06:07:27 AM
I seem to remember last year there is/was a cunning way to use the xmas even to grind Romulan faction through Epohs (or however they are spelt)

Can someone fill in the blanks for me please, I've looked at the Romulan section of the reputation system but don't recall seeing any projects that needed Epohs?
You -- previously -- could get Christmas ornaments (redeemable for stuff) and epohh tags from snow piles, but apparently there was too much AFK grinding. So now ornaments are from killing the snowman and the new Gingerbread mission (which bears a shockingly similar layout to the colony mission, although I have yet to figure out how to get the recipe hidden there because the damn queue wasn't working for it) and doff missions and epohh tags only from the foot races.

Which sucks, as I managed something like 2000 romulan marks last year via winter epohhs


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on December 06, 2013, 06:45:38 AM
If the races themselves haven't changed, then they are comically easy, even the pvp one.  You just have to run it a few times to get a feel for it.  A trick I've used that payed off was to always run full speed and just jump going into the corners.  The trick is that when you are in midair, let go of your movement control and you will stick the landing with zero skidding.  Then just pivot and start sprinting again in the new direction.  I would get first or second place every time doing this.  The epohh tags pile up doing this and you will generate plenty of marks.  I quickly reached the point where I made so many tags in a week that I could just coast on them for the rest of the event.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 06, 2013, 02:46:54 PM
I may futz with that a little more.

The PvE queue for Winter Invasion is now working. It's basically colony invasion with snowballs. There's a Yeti to kill too. There's some "find the present" thing I haven't figured out (I have opened a few presents and gotten recipes).

Also, Elachi Invasion or whatever it was called got pulled, the fuckers. I liked that one and it was a good, quick, fun source of Dyson Marks.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 06, 2013, 02:50:02 PM
I seem to remember last year there is/was a cunning way to use the xmas even to grind Romulan faction through Epohs (or however they are spelt)

Can someone fill in the blanks for me please, I've looked at the Romulan section of the reputation system but don't recall seeing any projects that needed Epohs?

Basicly you did the races to get winter epohh tags, you traded the tags for a juvenile winter epohh, you did special science duty officer lissions to raise the juvinile pet epohh to a mature one, then you sacrificed sold the epohh for rommie marks.

Essentially the same as you can do with the tagging epohh game on New Romulus.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 06, 2013, 06:14:35 PM
Except you can get 2 tags for running a race and more for coming in 1st, 2nd or 3rd...and there's four races an hour.

Of course what you get NOW is the same number of marks, but it's a box of random marks. It's 30 or 200 of the same marks, but could by Dyson, Romulan, Omega, Nukara....


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on December 07, 2013, 12:47:53 AM
Um, wow. The solo race this year is INCREDIBLY intolerant of going the slightest bit outside the lines.

I'm skipping this year. No thanks, Cryptic. You bug-fixed all the fun out of this one.

EDIT: And they also ruined my favorite pair of pants (http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=13882051#post13882051) going back almost four years. They're batting a solid "0" on this one. :(

EDIT 2: It is sadly telling that they took the time to fix the bugs with the meaningless festival race, but the half-dozen missions that have been non-completable since Legacy of Romulus shipped nine months ago are still unfixed.

You stay classy, Cryptic.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 07, 2013, 06:57:14 AM
Which missions are those? Seriously, I cant remember any uncompletable LOR missions.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on December 07, 2013, 12:00:31 PM
There are two system patrols in Alpha Centauri bloc that used to work, but you no longer get credit for killing any of the ships. Two of the dailies on Nimbus frequently break and can't be completed. In one case it's that one of randomly-selected locations to use doesn't advance the quest. In the other, the "kill wildlife" mission, the spawns often get stuck "on" so the quest objectives can't be used until the next server reboot, or the spawns turn off 30-60 seconds prematurely. I've reported all of these issues multiple times using the in-game bug reporting tool, and they've been mentioned on the forums as well.

There are some others, but they escape me at the moment - a couple of missions that are simply no longer accessible, and apparently not for any design reason. (The next-highest irritation in my mind is that my fleet's logo bugged out 3-4 months ago, and can no longer be displayed on ships or uniforms.)

The one thing they *did* fix in the last nine months was the obnoxious Nequencia mission in Tau Dewa. If you didn't complete it, the trade items couldn't be discarded. I had one stuck in my inventory for months.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 07, 2013, 04:51:49 PM
That outside the lines part only appears to be on one spot (when you're along the edge of the veranda-thingy Q is on) and it's DQ'd me a few times, and pisses me off.

We can't see our Fleet Uniform either, which sucks.

And one of the broken missions is in the Romulan Mystery, it's the one where there's a hidden door in a cave. You never get credit for opening the door. It's been bugged for months, you can't go forward because nothing spawns or acknowledges because it's still waiting for you to open the door you've already passed through.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 07, 2013, 04:59:49 PM
Sounds like those missions are breaking after the fact because that Rom Mystery one used to work fine.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 07, 2013, 06:24:31 PM
Sounds like those missions are breaking after the fact because that Rom Mystery one used to work fine.
It looks like it got rebroken by a patch. Go figure.

I just found out you can buy extra duty officer assignment slots at the embassy. Only three -- first one is 50k fleet credits, second is 75 (didn't get that one yet). and there's apparently a third. Cool.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tannhauser on December 07, 2013, 06:27:32 PM
Thanks for that tip.  I'm still figuring out the fleet stuff.

Do you spread your Doff missions out or do you focus on one or two types of missions like Diplomacy, etc.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: 5150 on December 10, 2013, 05:54:59 AM
Um, wow. The solo race this year is INCREDIBLY intolerant of going the slightest bit outside the lines.

I'm skipping this year. No thanks, Cryptic. You bug-fixed all the fun out of this one.


Oddly I've not noticed any issues with the course of the solo race, I'm able to cut all the corners I've been able to cut for the last 2 years.

The bug I have noticed though is when more than 1 person tries to start the race at the same time - it seems to start for everyone but obviously only 1 person gets put on the track while you are left rooted by the co-ordinator and immediately fail the race and have to go back to the other NPC to restart it!


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on December 10, 2013, 06:05:53 AM
Thanks for that tip.  I'm still figuring out the fleet stuff.

Do you spread your Doff missions out or do you focus on one or two types of missions like Diplomacy, etc.

The best thing to do at first is any mission you have the doffs for, and just fill up the queue with whatever.  Typically, you won't find enough of just one or two types of missions, or you just won't have enough of a specific doff type to run more than a few of the same type, so focusing only on a category or two is actually less efficient.

The colonization chains in the different clusters are useful to seek out, as they give pretty nice doffs at the end of the chain.  Chains in general are good to complete.  If you see one in your list, do it.  Even if it fails you advance the chain.

Once you have a semi-decent roster, some of the best assignments you can do for commendation xp are the ones you get from your department heads.  Look for 20 hour assignments.  They seem to give the best payouts.  Theoretically, if you log in every hour, the short ones give you more over time, but do you really want to log in hourly?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: MisterNoisy on December 10, 2013, 04:35:24 PM
Send a fleet invite to Hirven@Suranis. Thanks!
Says you're already in a fleet. Possibly Bat Quadrant, although I didn't see you in the roster..

Was thinking about jumping back in - did Bat Quadrant go away?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 10, 2013, 05:59:23 PM
Send a fleet invite to Hirven@Suranis. Thanks!
Says you're already in a fleet. Possibly Bat Quadrant, although I didn't see you in the roster..

Was thinking about jumping back in - did Bat Quadrant go away?
We're still here. I'm still feeling out how to handle fleet projects (I screwed up a bit with the Spire, but no big...just split the projects at first instead of concentrating).


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on December 10, 2013, 06:45:43 PM
I just threw some more fleet marks and Dil at the starbase.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 10, 2013, 07:28:05 PM
Awesome. I just turned in a Snow Epohh for marks. 200 of ANY mark, your choice. Well worth raising. :)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: 5150 on December 11, 2013, 04:47:26 AM
Awesome. I just turned in a Snow Epohh for marks. 200 of ANY mark, your choice. Well worth raising. :)

Is this done on New Romulus or something? Havent been able to find it yet


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 11, 2013, 05:28:34 AM
If its anything like last year. Q will be hanging around Searth space dock or The first city on quo'nos and will be able to send you to the winder wonderland.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 11, 2013, 05:35:24 AM
If its anything like last year. Q will be hanging around Searth space dock or The first city on quo'nos and will be able to send you to the winder wonderland.
Yeah, Q's hanging out in space dock.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 12, 2013, 07:36:04 PM
Just worked out how to set priority on my space weapons auto-fire. That was...helpful. I want the hyper-plasma torpedo launcher to fire first, then the Omega one. I might swap the Omega one to the back, though. I'm only using Torpedo Spread 1 and High Yield Torpedo 1 though..


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on December 13, 2013, 10:39:12 AM
I should probably figure that out for protracted engagements, but most of the time, my alpha strike is enough that most enemies don't survive a second pass.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on December 13, 2013, 07:23:39 PM
I should probably figure that out for protracted engagements, but most of the time, my alpha strike is enough that most enemies don't survive a second pass.
Those omega torpedos fire so freaking fast with a purple projectile officer that my plasma torpedos NEVER FIRED. Hence gotta put plasma "first".


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on January 31, 2014, 06:59:05 PM
Episode 8.5 launched yesterday in typical STO fashion. The servers shit the bed explosively and repeatedly, like a baby with food poisoning. The servers were down yesterday longer than they were up.

That said, the story addition is spectacular.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on January 31, 2014, 09:23:16 PM
I think - I think - they fixed the two most paper-cut-obnoxious bugs of the last two years: random skills adding themselves to the hotbars on every map transition, and DOff Department Heads changing themselves on every map transition.

I'm still holding my breath, though.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tannhauser on February 01, 2014, 06:07:07 AM
Just finished the new 8.5 mission.  Nice!  I love these little storyline additions they keep adding on to the game.  I'm not a guy who does dailies, never have, so I've been away from STO for a few weeks after getting a good taste of the Dyson missions and ground combat.  Good to see their attempts to keep a story line going.



Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on February 01, 2014, 07:44:28 PM
I got the borrowed ship, it's passable, but the stock model without all the right consoles is still less powerful than my adapted destroyer.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on February 01, 2014, 11:30:28 PM
Just worked out how to set priority on my space weapons auto-fire. That was...helpful. I want the hyper-plasma torpedo launcher to fire first, then the Omega one. I might swap the Omega one to the back, though. I'm only using Torpedo Spread 1 and High Yield Torpedo 1 though..

How do you do this? Is it chat commands?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on February 02, 2014, 09:10:50 AM
Just worked out how to set priority on my space weapons auto-fire. That was...helpful. I want the hyper-plasma torpedo launcher to fire first, then the Omega one. I might swap the Omega one to the back, though. I'm only using Torpedo Spread 1 and High Yield Torpedo 1 though..

How do you do this? Is it chat commands?
Click order. Whatever order you click weapons to turn them to autofire is the priority.

So I turned off all the torpedoes from autofire, then turned "hyper plasma" on first, then omega -- so the HP now has priority to fire. Strangely simple and not really documented. Took me awhile to track it down.

I need to log back on to STO and at least take a look at the fleet projects. I spent the Winter Event stocking up on marks....:)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tannhauser on February 02, 2014, 09:39:39 AM
Thanks for that tip! 


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on February 02, 2014, 03:44:37 PM
Seriously, just get us to shipyard 3. I'm working my ass off to do it, but it's slow going.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on February 02, 2014, 06:58:59 PM
Seriously, just get us to shipyard 3. I'm working my ass off to do it, but it's slow going.
Working on it. I was focusing on getting to Spire 1. I'd like to get to Embassy 3 to get the top-end kits and the third bonus duty officer job slot.

But right now I'm out of marks and out of dilithium. :) I've got something like 6 personal projects that need dilithium too and I'm trying to balance them. (On the bright side, I have graduated to elite missions and seem to do okay, so bonus?)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on February 03, 2014, 04:50:12 AM
I've only run two elite STFs ever. One was a smashing success, the other a complete disaster.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: 5150 on February 03, 2014, 05:21:24 AM
I'm having huge problems playing this, I get dropped with a server timeout on every-single-zone change (and then it takes me a couple of attempts to get back in. It was hit an miss over xmas the the timeout counter _almost_ reaching 10 during a zone change and the occasional drop but now it's every one.

I've tried the EU proxy in the launcher (couldn't even connect) and am >< that close to logging a support ticket (to which I preduct a stock and completely irrelevant reply) but I wondered if anyone knew of any timeout settings (probably only need to double it to 20 secs). I've looked through the files but couldn't see anything obvious

A google search returns a bunch of people with the same issue years ago but no fix because in most cases the server was actually down :-(


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on February 03, 2014, 05:27:13 AM
No clue, sorry.

Just hit 50 on my Rommie and now I'm trying to puzzle out how to actually do damage.  My Fed char has the Andoran ship and it kicks ass, but even after upping to MK XII cannons on the Rommie I can't pummel things as quickly.  Quite annoying.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on February 03, 2014, 11:06:41 AM
Tac, sci or engie?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on February 03, 2014, 01:48:10 PM
Fed is Engie, Rom is Tac.   

I thought maybe it was just perception on my part but then I ran another daily on the fed and was able to tear-up the Voth cruiser in the Andoran that proceeded to pummel the Rommy on whom I'm using the 700 day vet cruiser at the moment.   


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Simond on February 03, 2014, 03:32:14 PM
I'm having huge problems playing this, I get dropped with a server timeout on every-single-zone change (and then it takes me a couple of attempts to get back in. It was hit an miss over xmas the the timeout counter _almost_ reaching 10 during a zone change and the occasional drop but now it's every one.

I've tried the EU proxy in the launcher (couldn't even connect) and am >< that close to logging a support ticket (to which I preduct a stock and completely irrelevant reply) but I wondered if anyone knew of any timeout settings (probably only need to double it to 20 secs). I've looked through the files but couldn't see anything obvious

A google search returns a bunch of people with the same issue years ago but no fix because in most cases the server was actually down :-(
Turn off dynamic patching in the options.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on February 03, 2014, 04:50:19 PM
Fed is Engie, Rom is Tac.   

I thought maybe it was just perception on my part but then I ran another daily on the fed and was able to tear-up the Voth cruiser in the Andoran that proceeded to pummel the Rommy on whom I'm using the 700 day vet cruiser at the moment.   

Engies are significantly more versatile in my experience than Tacticals. That said, switch out your boff stations, get more engineers in those universal slots. This has worked for my tactical.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on February 04, 2014, 08:30:57 AM
Fed is Engie, Rom is Tac.   

I thought maybe it was just perception on my part but then I ran another daily on the fed and was able to tear-up the Voth cruiser in the Andoran that proceeded to pummel the Rommy on whom I'm using the 700 day vet cruiser at the moment.   

The number one mistake most new Romulans make is not taking advantage of battle cloak. You get that buff everytime you attack from cloak so your attack pattern should be cloak-decloak-attack-pull away-cloak-decloak-attack. More or less. If you do it right your DPS will go up pretty well. Get BOFFs and Doffs that increase your de-cloaking damage, as well as traits for yourself along with a reduction in the cloak cooldown timer.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on February 04, 2014, 09:15:53 AM
Yeah, that one I realized a while back while leveling.  Rommies are the EQ rogues of STO: they should be vanishing as often as possible.  So I cloak/de, pop off cannon & torp abilities and then come 'round again.  (Unless of course I'm in a group where I take all the damn aggro because despite my low DPS I'm still outstripping the other players)

I'm just trying to puzzle out why things like the Voss cruisers pop to my Andoran while they are a struggle on the Rommie.  All I can figure is I'm still using Tier X engines, etc because I haven't re-run the Breen missions at 50 and don't have the rep for other gear yet.   I sold some fleet modules and am sitting on millions so I debated upgrading from the Blue MkXII plasma cannons to Purples but I can't justify that cost for the apparently small bump in dps.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on February 04, 2014, 11:07:22 AM
How many cannons do you need and what type?

Also, I ran my third elite STF last night, got called a noob, but still out-damaged everyone on the mission and finished it successfully.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: 5150 on February 05, 2014, 03:40:54 AM
Turn off dynamic patching in the options.

Thanks, I tried that yesterday but it didn't make a huge difference (still timeout on every zone but I now seem to get back in on the first try)

I could understand it if I was entering a zone I'd never been in before or that has been updated since my last visit but all I'm currently doing is bouncing between the academy and Q to do Party Patrol on 8 characters


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on February 05, 2014, 09:27:52 PM
Check the fleet bank Merusk.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on February 06, 2014, 06:11:59 AM
I'm not in your fleet, but thanks   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on February 06, 2014, 10:40:46 AM
Bleh. I'll mail 'em to ya tonight.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on February 07, 2014, 04:19:07 PM
Bleh. I'll mail 'em to ya tonight.

Rock, thanks.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Torinak on February 07, 2014, 09:10:41 PM
Giving this a try (Fed Engineer Thorlyg@Tynprr), just made Commander. The game is sure rough--polish and quality-of-life tweaks are rather lacking, especially for a 4-year-old game. But some parts of it do feel "Star Trek" enough to be entertaining for now.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on February 09, 2014, 10:39:34 AM
Did I use bonus dilithium weekend to finally turn in the quest for capping Nukara reputation and got 48,000 dilithium instead of 32,000? Yes I did. :)

Which is good, because I have, um, 120,000 dilithium backlogged Tier V purple sets to acquire. (Two more for the Romulan, all three of the Mk 12 Omega...)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on February 09, 2014, 03:05:56 PM
I continue to be confuzzled about how you acquire dilithium in such vast quantities.  My characters haven't ever had more than 30k at a time.

Not that it matters at the moment since ARC is being a bitch and not letting me log in.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on February 09, 2014, 03:15:29 PM
A combination of capping reputation runs, doff assignments and running dailies.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on February 09, 2014, 04:57:21 PM
I continue to be confuzzled about how you acquire dilithium in such vast quantities.  My characters haven't ever had more than 30k at a time.

Not that it matters at the moment since ARC is being a bitch and not letting me log in.
You get like 32,000 for capping reputation (it's a quick run there, turn it in quest). I happened to have NOT gotten around to turning in the one for Nukara, so with the bonus weekend -- I took the time.

Most of it is doff assignments -- 2000 for turning in contraband, and I can generally run another 1000 or so with misc other missions. Then there's dailies -- doing the Lore at starfleet academy is quick and easy for 480, and then just do some group PvE -- the daily PvE missions, and then elite missions or just regular Omega missions.

I don't really grind for it, I just don't spend it that often. I've got 55k to refine, but 48 of that was a one-off (well, 32k+16k bonus) Nukara rep. I've got a Dyson one coming soon for another 32,000 though..

Just make sure to always keep an eye out for Confiscate Contraband from Crew and Inspect Freighters and try for crits. I've got a stack of 45 contraband in my inventory whcih is what, 2 or 3k per 5?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on February 09, 2014, 06:00:47 PM
Ah.. I have yet to cap a single rep (grind..grind..grind) and I always fail the contraband Doff mission.  I should buy some purple security personnel.

The dailies and such I'm doing, it's just time then. Good to know, thanks.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on February 09, 2014, 06:15:52 PM
Ah.. I have yet to cap a single rep (grind..grind..grind) and I always fail the contraband Doff mission.  I should buy some purple security personnel.

The dailies and such I'm doing, it's just time then. Good to know, thanks.
Yeah, I put serious work into my doffs. :) Mostly to get good purples for the space/ground slots I wanted, but once you finish some of the colonization quest chains you get a lot of purple doffs.

It takes a lot longer to make it than to spend it. The 45k now that I have left to refine is all spoken for, as is another 50k on top of that. But that's because I'm currently buying 2 sets (three pieces each) of Mark XII purple rep gear. Which is, short of fleet bases, about as pricey as it gets. :)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on February 09, 2014, 08:37:55 PM
I just blew all of my Dil on two sets of XII Dyson ship gear, I'll do it again for XII Omega and MACO ground gear, so I'm basically done for when it comes to dil for at least another month or two.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on February 09, 2014, 10:59:48 PM
Not that it matters at the moment since ARC is being a bitch and not letting me log in.

You installed ARC? o_O

I guess the Khan outfits are nice and all, but seriously: fuck bloatware.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on February 10, 2014, 06:28:14 AM
Ah.. I have yet to cap a single rep (grind..grind..grind) and I always fail the contraband Doff mission.  I should buy some purple security personnel.

The dailies and such I'm doing, it's just time then. Good to know, thanks.
Admittedly, the only reason i capped Dyson rep so easily is the mark packages from the Winter event. (Winter Epohh breeding). Also generated the marks to cap Nukara (I was close anyways), and for the Borg and Romulan Space gear sets I was buying.

What's ARC?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on February 10, 2014, 06:46:09 AM
I started playing this again after a few months away, and holy hell.  The Sphere is really well done and I enjoyed pretty much everything in it.  This game may have some long-standing warts but the art direction definitely isn't one of them.  A stand out moment is when you are in the subspace network access area and the different worlds appear as you approach various platforms. 

I'm generally not a ground guy but I hopped down to the battle zone just to check the place out and the next thing I know it's three hours later and I had a blast.  I want player mechsuits now.

As someone who has six non-mule alts I also really appreciated the addition of the reputation sponsorship token.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on February 10, 2014, 06:54:25 AM
I continue to be confuzzled about how you acquire dilithium in such vast quantities.  My characters haven't ever had more than 30k at a time.

Not that it matters at the moment since ARC is being a bitch and not letting me log in.

Have a one or 2 klingon alts that just run marauding missions and security missions and then pile the proceeds into your account bank, then do the turn over contraband missions with all your characters by pulling the stuff out of your account bank for efficient Dill suckage.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on February 10, 2014, 11:36:38 AM
What's ARC?

ARC is Perfect World's new in-house launcher for their various games, essentially a launcher that launches STO's launcher.

So it's kind of like Steam, except you can only access STO, NW, and a bunch of shitty Korean F2P games.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Ingmar on February 10, 2014, 12:44:33 PM
What's ARC?

Perfect World's platform launcher thingy.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on February 10, 2014, 03:59:19 PM
Not that it matters at the moment since ARC is being a bitch and not letting me log in.

You installed ARC? o_O

I guess the Khan outfits are nice and all, but seriously: fuck bloatware.

I did because I thought it was a consolidation interface like Blizzard's very nice new Battle.Net interface.  Remove all the launchers for one unified version.  I discovered it is not, but it wiped my Neverwinter/ STO launchers and menu directories and I've been too damn lazy to just create new shortcuts.

Though it does provide a much nicer shop interface than fucking with their site if you want to buy zen.  Plus having a new costume option for my Romulan is worth it.  The Romulan outfits from TNG and TOS sucked then and suck now and none of the other options work for Rommies, despite just being Vulcans with face ridges.  :awesome_for_real:

ed: Heh, they also just gave out 20 lobi and a Ferengi shuttle from the in-game mail I just got.  Must be a very low adoption rate, with good reason.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Torinak on February 10, 2014, 04:31:41 PM
Not that it matters at the moment since ARC is being a bitch and not letting me log in.

You installed ARC? o_O

I guess the Khan outfits are nice and all, but seriously: fuck bloatware.

I did because I thought it was a consolidation interface like Blizzard's very nice new Battle.Net interface.  Remove all the launchers for one unified version.  I discovered it is not, but it wiped my Neverwinter/ STO launchers and menu directories and I've been too damn lazy to just create new shortcuts.

Though it does provide a much nicer shop interface than fucking with their site if you want to buy zen.  Plus having a new costume option for my Romulan is worth it.  The Romulan outfits from TNG and TOS sucked then and suck now and none of the other options work for Rommies, despite just being Vulcans with face ridges.  :awesome_for_real:

ed: Heh, they also just gave out 20 lobi and a Ferengi shuttle from the in-game mail I just got.  Must be a very low adoption rate, with good reason.

Did you disable the always-running service(s) that it (allegedly) runs, that don't seem to be related to its game-launching function?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on February 11, 2014, 10:54:42 AM
I did because I thought it was a consolidation interface like Blizzard's very nice new Battle.Net interface.  Remove all the launchers for one unified version.  I discovered it is not, but it wiped my Neverwinter/ STO launchers and menu directories and I've been too damn lazy to just create new shortcuts.

I've just installed it. I  installed it by installing the initial installer, copying over my old STO folder into it without replacing anything, and then running it from ARC. Worked fine, just had to DL the new patch and that's it.

Anyone that uses steam and is complaining about Bloatware is laughable.

I just realised I havent done any of the VOTH content. Might do that tonignth actually. Havent plaed properly in months.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on February 11, 2014, 12:31:41 PM
Too many pronouns, not enough proper nouns makes that description confusing as hell.

So it doesn't copy the STO install over into the Arc folder, you need to do that manually.  Does it still start the STO launcher or does it patch through the ARC launcher?

Blizzard's interface does the latter, replacing the Warden launcher


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Lantyssa on February 12, 2014, 06:14:53 AM
It may do the big patches, but you'll still have to do incrementals unless they've further updated it, much like Steam.

At least it will fill in your account credentials automatically. :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Der Helm on February 14, 2014, 06:13:00 AM
I picked this back up, ran a Romulan through the first few missions, now I have to decide if I want to work for the Klingons or the Federation. Thoughts/Suggestions?

Also, is there an F13 fleet (this thread tells me there is), is it active and how do I get in again ?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on February 14, 2014, 08:04:31 AM
If by active you mean 'exists,' then yes!  A handful of us play regularly but rarely at the same time.  State your game handle and one of us will invite you in.  Our starbase isn't high end but it covers the basics.

As for which side to pick, it's mostly up to what side you like thematically, but functionally the Klingons have a slight edge as they get more contraband assignments.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tannhauser on February 14, 2014, 09:08:29 AM
Welcome Helm!  I took my Rom to the Feds and like it but like Vish said.  If I can give you a tip, be sure to complete episodes, some of them end with a purple doff.

The starbase is cool, be sure to feed the goldfish when you get there. :) 

Live long and prosper.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Der Helm on February 14, 2014, 12:08:36 PM
I think I read something about how choosing your alliance changes which fleets you can join. Is this true ? Was that in regard to player fleets ?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on February 14, 2014, 12:11:16 PM
Yes, player fleets.  Join Klingon and you can't join a Fed fleet.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Der Helm on February 14, 2014, 12:13:21 PM
So. What kind of fleet do we have ? (I still have a feeling I misunderstand how half of the social tools work in this game)

edit: Handle seems to be Hlek@HelmF13. Easy enough to remember, right ?  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on February 14, 2014, 01:15:17 PM
It's a Fed fleet.  My KDF character is in a fleet with a maxxed out starbase.  I can probably get you an invite if you go that route.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Der Helm on February 14, 2014, 01:17:18 PM
It's a Fed fleet.  My KDF character is in a fleet with a maxxed out starbase.  I can probably get you an invite if you go that route.
Federation it is, then. I think I have a Klingon character from way back then.

edit: Did someone from here send me an invite ? Because I might have clicked that away by accident earlier.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on February 15, 2014, 01:22:25 AM
Too many pronouns, not enough proper nouns makes that description confusing as hell.

So it doesn't copy the STO install over into the Arc folder, you need to do that manually.  Does it still start the STO launcher or does it patch through the ARC launcher?

Blizzard's interface does the latter, replacing the Warden launcher

Arc starts the STO launcher as normal.

All I was describing was a method where you DONT have to download the whole game again.

You are right that it takes over your STO shortcuts, and my old STO shortcut pointed at the new Arc folder, but It does not seen to launch ARC if you use the shortcut.

Sorry it was confusing.

And Helm the choice of Klingon or Fed does not really change much in the Romulan storyline. Either side will treat you like crap and you get to shoot the other side occasionally :D Fed Rommies cant walk on the Klingon homeworld and Klink Rommies cant visit Earth. Occasionally your Klink Romulans will need a slap as hey will start talking like Klingons, and the NPCs you deal with are different and they will give you their versions of the standard missions and objectives. You get access to most of the Doff Missions of your chosen facion, and it affects what fleets you can join. That's pretty much it. Oh, and you can use all the ships of your chosen faction apart from the top tier stuff, which really means that you can use some of the modules of ships you have bought on your Rom ships.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on February 15, 2014, 09:22:51 AM
Anyone know a way to look at ship bonuses without going to a wiki?  Just completed the 4 year project on my rommie and I can't decide if it would be better to invest in proton for its Tactical mode or just go ahead and move the plasmas over.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on February 15, 2014, 06:40:37 PM
I'm all about the anti-protons just because they burn borg the best and are just all-around solid.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on February 16, 2014, 06:23:20 AM
Anyone know a way to look at ship bonuses without going to a wiki?  Just completed the 4 year project on my rommie and I can't decide if it would be better to invest in proton for its Tactical mode or just go ahead and move the plasmas over.

Well, you can look at its ship stats by having it as your active starship and pressing U.

Anyway, I did the "Hey, we hired Tuvok, yo!" mission and I didn't like it much. I admit that my enjoyment would have been hampered somewhat by the fact that I hated Voyager, so listening. To. Him. Talk. Like. Every. Word. Is. A. Brick. was pretty crappy. The rommie version of the ship is really beautiful but My connection is pretty laggy, so spending an hour bieng unable to catch miniature versions of Q for 25 days to get it does not seem like much fun to me.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tyrnan on February 16, 2014, 07:19:42 AM
Even with no connection problems it still isn't fun.  I lasted 2 or 3 days doing it on 5 characters before I went just went "fuck it!".  The thoughts of running it something like 75 times in total plus re-running the FE 15 times to get the full set on all characters just sapped the will to live right out of me.  I know the game has always been fairly grindy but they seem to be taking the piss a little lately.

Have they made any announcement on how they're going to price the C-store version?  I'm guessing since it's Cryptic/PW there will be a triple pack for each faction with some "awesome" deal where you can get all 3 for only $100 or something?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on February 16, 2014, 08:44:59 AM
I tried fighting the assholes at the academy for all of a minute chasing Qs before I said "fuck it" and spent some of the lobi crystals I had on it.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Der Helm on February 16, 2014, 10:34:08 AM
edit: Did someone from here send me an invite ? Because I might have clicked that away by accident earlier.
Because somebody might have missed my subtle edit.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on February 16, 2014, 10:42:22 AM
Anyone know a way to look at ship bonuses without going to a wiki?  Just completed the 4 year project on my rommie and I can't decide if it would be better to invest in proton for its Tactical mode or just go ahead and move the plasmas over.

Well, you can look at its ship stats by having it as your active starship and pressing U.

Yeah, my problem is it doesn't show all the bonuses there.  Like the 1000 day ship's shield gen vs Accuracy in Tac. mode.  Guess it's to the wiki.

Quote
Anyway, I did the "Hey, we hired Tuvok, yo!" mission and I didn't like it much. I admit that my enjoyment would have been hampered somewhat by the fact that I hated Voyager, so listening. To. Him. Talk. Like. Every. Word. Is. A. Brick. was pretty crappy. The rommie version of the ship is really beautiful but My connection is pretty laggy, so spending an hour bieng unable to catch miniature versions of Q for 25 days to get it does not seem like much fun to me.

It's not 25 days it's only 15!   :awesome_for_real:   Completing the mission gives you 400 and every day gives you 40.

Tip: Go in to tactical combat (b) and the Q's with the HP bar are the runners.  The ones without are the shuffle game.  Activate one shuffle then go activate another 10 seconds later and then a 3rd.  Then run back to the first, it will be finishing up with the last shuffle so you can answer, then hit the 2nd as it's finishing up then the 3rd.  Makes it go a LOT faster.  Took me less time than doing the race for the Breen ship.

Then again I also got on at times there were at least 3-4 Academies that only had 6-9 players.  Fuck trying that in any of the ones with more than 15.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on February 16, 2014, 10:58:18 AM
Yeah, Being on at a time when there was a ton of people on at the academy was the other issue. Plus there were people who seemed to be running around just setting off the Q for giggles and not even playing the stupid Q game. I had to swap zones twice and then I had the "fun" of actually doing the Q shit and watching the miniQ teleporting forward.

It really was taking the utter piss. If I want that ship that badly I'll just pay for it rather than go through that aggrivation (which I'm sure is the point). And right now I don't. The Scimitar was the last straw for e in that regard.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tyrnan on February 16, 2014, 11:12:38 AM
Yeah, Being on at a time when there was a ton of people on at the academy was the other issue. Plus there were people who seemed to be running around just setting off the Q for giggles and not even playing the stupid Q game. I had to swap zones twice and then I had the "fun" of actually doing the Q shit and watching the miniQ teleporting forward.

It really was taking the utter piss. If I want that ship that badly I'll just pay for it rather than go through that aggrivation (which I'm sure is the point). And right now I don't. The Scimitar was the last straw for e in that regard.

A lot of the people running around setting off the Q's are either a) just looking for runners and ignoring the stupid shell game or b) doing what Merusk said and running multiple shell games simultaneously (if you miss which present Q is in the shooter mode trick will show you when you aim at the presents, unless they've patched that out).  It's a fucking awfully designed event and whoever is responsible for it should be made play it continuously for at least a month.  But of course Cryptic will look at their metrics, see that most people are running it because they have no other fucking way to get the anniversary "reward" and declare it a resounding success.

What happened with the Scimitar btw?  It wasn't out by the time I stopped playing last time and I only popped on for the anniversary thing last week.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on February 16, 2014, 02:47:48 PM
I admit that after playing the stupid Q box game 3-4 times in a row (and not knowing about a cheat), I stop trying to play it and just trigger them until I get a runner.

A quest where you do nothing bit stand and watch for a minute, and you have to do it five times, and you have to repeat it every day for two weeks... Yeah, not really fun.

Also, the Romulan Dyson ship is beautiful, but as a Feddie I'm stuck with a plug-ugly POS. The Dyson design style still just doesn't work with the traditional Fed ship silhouette.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on February 16, 2014, 03:32:26 PM
I didn't know about the box cheat.. nice. I'll give it a shot on the Fed.


Also, the Romulan Dyson ship is beautiful, but as a Feddie I'm stuck with a plug-ugly POS. The Dyson design style still just doesn't work with the traditional Fed ship silhouette.

It's not terrible.  It looks a lot better than the Klingon ship, those poor bastards.   Plus the way it splits-open looks better on the Fed than the "flip out" action on Rommie for Tac moded. 

Still, I'm really happy I got it on my Rommie first.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on February 16, 2014, 04:20:38 PM
What happened with the Scimitar btw?  It wasn't out by the time I stopped playing last time and I only popped on for the anniversary thing last week.

Ahh, well it was really an "in context" thing. At the time, the Klingon PVP trolls had been crying and wailing on the forums and on the sector chat of every pit of space they wandered through that the reason that all the fed ships were overpowered is that one ship, the fleet defiant, had 5 tactical slots. This made every ship totally OP and the reason that the feds kept losing in PVP was all to due with lack of player skeel. One look at the stats of the ships showed this was utter bollox (the klingon ships outclassed every fed ship in every single stat and Klingons universally ripped Fed ships to bits in PVP, while telling one another they actually had inferior ships and doing it by skill. I had some blazing rows with Klingon idiots.) They also said that the cloak was useless o Klingon ships but somehow made the defiant OP as well.

SO they had been howling the forums down DEMANDING a ship with 5 tactical slots because any ship without tactical slots was useless.

And then they brought out the Scimitar, a ship you have to pay for with 5 tactical slots.

Now, the 5 tac slots was only one thing in the list of reasons why this ship was a "BUY ME NAOW!!" cash ship to me, but its been a while so I cant remember the list. It was a carrier for one thing, And had a tac layout. Most of the people who play STO in munchkin mode are tac players as tac ships get Dual cannons. and cannons are totally broken in the game for various reasons.

But yeah, it basically was a totally money ship, and that make me largely quit the game. It coincided with some drama in the fleet I was in anyway so I was probably on my way out anyway, but it was a contributory factor. I had played the game for 2 years odd and I was sick of it. If people ask me though I recommend people play it as it is a good game as long as you stay out of PVP and the forums.

It really has gotten stupidly grindy though.

And yeah, this was a personal rant with no real point. Welcome to the internet.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on February 16, 2014, 07:11:39 PM
I automatically ignore any and all klinks that bring up PvP anywhere. Problem solved.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on February 16, 2014, 07:12:45 PM
I automatically ignore any and all klinks that bring up PvP anywhere. Problem solved.

Sounds a fuckload more rational than any solution I ever came up with.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tyrnan on February 17, 2014, 02:02:09 AM
Thanks for the context.  Gotta love them Klingons!  When they use decloak + APA + CRF + whatever else and rip you to shreds in seconds it because of their "leet skillz" but when a (single) fed ship does it it's OP.  Although I'm not really surprised, I remember them moaning when they got their new 1-30 content because it was part of LoR and not some super special Klingon release.

Just checked out the Scimitar consoles on the wiki.  Secondary shields, cloaked firing and no shield drop on cloaking?  Sounds perfectly reasonable and balanced  :uhrr:.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on February 17, 2014, 07:43:22 AM
Since I've started playing again I've noticed several people in chat mentioning beam setups as having competitive dps these days.  Did something change that I'm not aware of?  Are those cruiser commands pretty good?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on February 17, 2014, 09:11:18 AM
From what I've followed in my Fleet chat, The folks who mention it are using "fire at will" and other such multi-target beam abilities to hit in a 180 to 360 arc on the swarm spawns that happen in instances.  Meanwhile Cannons are forced to strafe and circle lest they lose all their frontal shields and go pop. 


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Kitsune on February 17, 2014, 11:52:01 AM
The volume of space around a beam ship where it can bring all weapons to bear is a fat donut around the ship.  The volume of space where a cannon ship can bring all weapons to bear is a narrow cone in front of the ship.  A beam ship can just circle a target indefinitely while constantly shooting, the cannon ship has to make attack runs, turn, move away, turn, make another attack run, etc, so the amount of time a cannon ship is actually firing on a target is around 50%.  That brings the overall DPS much closer than the bigger numbers on cannons would suggest.

Of course, for this to actually work, you need to have significant energy boosts so the constant firing of a beam ship doesn't suck your weapon energy dry.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on February 17, 2014, 01:44:26 PM
Yeah, which is why people used to recommend only having 6 beams on your cruiser as the power drain after that meant you were actually losing damage. Also, you cant fire your torpedos on your target (with the exception of the 180 degree torp, which you got from a Zen ship)

The flaw basically comes from the old system where power came from your crew, and since cruisers had lots of crew they had lots of power so they could fire beams all day, wheras Escorts could not mount that amount of beams as their crews were aniemic. But then they changed the power system so every ship effectively had the same amount of power but did not revisit the weapons systems to compensate, so suddenly Cruisers lost out big on damage. Even when they could get someone into the 70 degrees "donut" around the ship, the sheer power advantage of escorts now that they were firing less weapons which caused a lesser drain on the capacitor, and those weapons did more damage as they were still balanced to the time that escorts had crappy power, meant that Escorts would win every time. Essentially The 3 beans that cruisers could generally bring on you were no match for the 3 100% full power cannons the escort/ Klingon ship could bring on, and that's not counting turrets.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Kitsune on February 18, 2014, 01:08:56 PM
This is true, if you want to beamboat effectively you need to have gear that reduces weapon energy consumption, either the cruiser aura or the Mogai console set or Nadion Inversion or just general power buffs or batteries.  But once you have it properly set up, a beamboat can target a 2513.6 km^3 volume of space around it, compared to the 159.43 km^3 spherical cone that a 45-degree cannon ship can target.  Additionally, the Romulan reputation beam doesn't consume weapon power, and the 360-degree Solanae beam is good to stick on a rear weapon slot to let you get more firepower in your front arc if you can't broadside for whatever reason.

Normally rainbow beaming is a terrible idea, but with the new Dyson spire consoles it's less terrible, as they give a decent +all beams damage buff.  Previously your only bet was to fit only a single energy type on the ship and fill your tactical slots with +energy damage consoles, and that's still the superior option, but if you can't do that for whatever reason, the +cannon or +beam consoles can at least make your build be not awful.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Der Helm on February 18, 2014, 02:55:32 PM
The game is suprisingly complex and the quests (so far I seem to be doing mostly the Romulan story arc and a few patrol missions if I pass close enough to a system).
I recently got promoted to sub-commander and noticed a significant decrease in my survivabilty. Turns out I had not trained my crew members at all and had neglected training my own skills as well.

Could somebody enlighen me why I can't access the sub-commander tier of skills yet ? Do I have to invest a certain ammount of skill points in lower tiers like for BO promotions ? Could I get an invite to the fleet please ? I noticed that most of the "engame" ships are fleet variants. :)

Oh, and I started to run the recruitment missions for Doffs, but I have no clue what their point is later on ? Just another path of advancement ? A few ship/ground boni ?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on February 18, 2014, 03:28:14 PM
leveling is a big issue. Your best bed is http://www.stoacademy.com/ which has some guides and whatnot. But right now note that you cannot skill up tot he next level till you have spent enough on the previous level. If you want to know what way to do yours, well I like ground combat so I pumped more into ground combat than others may ave , but this is the way I built my sci. Press the skill tree tab

http://www.stoacademy.com/tools/skillplanner/?build=AtroxCarrier_1756

and my Eng who I pumped more of the space skills into.

http://www.stoacademy.com/tools/skillplanner/?build=CardassianGalor_1756

Same with your Boffs (bridge officers), who also need to have their provious skills poosted up.

As for Doffs (Duty Officers) when you have then you just load them up to do missions which gains you XP , dil and credits. I'm sure people can send a load of them to you if you ask. You can technically level your character by just logging in and doing doff missions.

But read the guides. :)

Played today and noticed they have hugely increased the amount of dil requirements to combine Doffs into a higher level. Dammit :(


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on February 19, 2014, 06:52:02 AM
Der Helm, I sent you an invite, and mailed some doff packs to you.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on February 19, 2014, 11:31:02 AM
To revisit the beam vs cannon issue,

One of the people in my fleet has a guide for loading an Armitage down with beams instead of cannons.I had the typical escort captain reaction "WTH are you smoking?". However, she is always in the top 3 damage dealers in any group event whether STF or PVP so maybe beams are actually somewhat practical for escorts now. She said what was already posted above, that being able to always hit compensated for the lower damage per shot.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Der Helm on February 19, 2014, 09:22:33 PM
Der Helm, I sent you an invite, and mailed some doff packs to you.
Thanks a lot, I could not even open every pack because I hit my 100 Doff limit. Is it worth to buy more slots ? I have about 1k of those cash shop points lying around.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on February 20, 2014, 04:16:36 AM
I'd see about getting higher quality Doffs before expanding your doff pool. better doffs means more chance of success plus bigger rewards from the mossions. The easist way is the combine doff missions at the recruitment center, but they cost a lot of Dilithium now.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on February 20, 2014, 05:51:41 AM
I'd say it is still worthwhile to convert a few groups of extra whites you have to greens, but take it easy, because it is a pretty expensive process.  Once your roster matures a bit and you have the infrastructure set up for you to acquire more high quality doffs, you will want to get the 100 slot upgrade.  Trust me, 25 is not enough.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on February 20, 2014, 06:03:04 AM
I send useless Doffs to Fleet projects.  Since I'm in a spam-invite Fleet they fill up everything but Dilithium and Doffs within a few hours of starting a project so that's how I make fleet credits.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Torinak on February 21, 2014, 04:12:45 PM
I hit max level and am suddenly having major problems with most space missions. I fly an Assault Cruiser with mostly tier X/XI weapons (phaser beams and turrets, photon torpedos with matching consoles), but routinely run into opposition in groups of 3 where each one is much tougher than my ship (there have been some Romulan ships where I literally never got their shields below 20%, and only killed them via bleed-through damage). What should I be doing? Different weapons? Different ship?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stokowski on February 21, 2014, 06:41:17 PM
Have you (re-)run the current featured episode (http://sto.gamepedia.com/Mission:_A_Step_Between_Stars) for the lovely unique purple Shield, Engine, Deflector etc.?
It's probably too late in the month to get enough Qmendations for the full ship, but that also unlocks the 4th device, the Overcharged Warp Core. The full set is very good in any vessel.

If you are lacking in Kinetic damage consider picking up the Kinetic Cutting Beam (http://sto.gamepedia.com/Kinetic_Cutting_Beam#Kinetic_Cutting_Beam), via Omega reputation, and/or a level XI Hargh'peng torpedo launcher via the replayable mission, the Doomsday Device (http://sto.gamepedia.com/Mission:_The_Doomsday_Device).

Are you using Directed Energy Modulation to help punch through shields?

Have you got your Bridge Officers all trained up with effective skills?

It's best to stack a single damage type/delivery system wherever possible. e.g.:
 (Phaser Beam + Phaser Beam + Phaser Relay + Phaser Relay) > (Phaser Beam + Disruptor Cannon + Phaser Relay + Prefire Chamber)

The Assault Cruiser is a decent vessel, although in the long term you may want to look to upgrade via a fleet version or something similar.

Don't panic, because it is not that unusual for there to seem to be a difficulty spike when you first hit 50, because the enemies are about as tough as they will ever get* ... but there's a long (potentially quite grindy) haul before a player can max-out their equipment and weaponry. While the baddies have hit their ceiling, a newly minted level 50 player still has some way to go. Don't worry too much.

* a bit of a generalisation, some later missions and events are indeed quite ... @!#%$^&* ... but in the normal course of play this holds true.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on February 21, 2014, 06:44:33 PM
How do you get the Warp Core?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stokowski on February 21, 2014, 06:48:26 PM
Warp Core ONLY comes with the ship (http://sto.gamepedia.com/Solanae_Class), which takes 1000 Qmendations to unlock. Once you have the ship however, you can take out the Warp Core and use it anywhere.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on February 21, 2014, 07:19:33 PM
Warp Core ONLY comes with the ship (http://sto.gamepedia.com/Solanae_Class), which takes 1000 Qmendations to unlock. Once you have the ship however, you can take out the Warp Core and use it anywhere.
Ah, just got that today but didn't unbox it.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on February 21, 2014, 07:38:52 PM
I hit max level and am suddenly having major problems with most space missions. I fly an Assault Cruiser with mostly tier X/XI weapons (phaser beams and turrets, photon torpedos with matching consoles), but routinely run into opposition in groups of 3 where each one is much tougher than my ship (there have been some Romulan ships where I literally never got their shields below 20%, and only killed them via bleed-through damage). What should I be doing? Different weapons? Different ship?

Are you sure you have your weapons on autofire? Right click on your weapons in the weapons console and they will all turn green. That means they will fire automaticly when the enemy is in they arc.

Make sure you have one type of beam (phaser, disrupter, etc. whichever one you fancy) and you have your tactical slots filled with that type of damage boost. White ones are fine and cheap.

Set your power ratios to about 80%-90% weapon power and then fiddle with the rest to taste. Having a weapon boost console or power boosting console is a good thing too.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tyrnan on February 24, 2014, 04:43:41 AM
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1028261

Seems I wasn't far off in my estimation:

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IMPORTANT NOTE: All nine Advanced Dyson Science Destroyers are available in the C-Store for individual sale (2,500 ZEN) or as a 3-pack factional bundle (5,000 ZEN; over 33% savings!). As each faction has their own 3-pack bundle of Advanced Dyson Science Destroyers, for even more savings, you can choose to purchase all 9 ships in a 9-pack bundle (10,000 ZEN; over 55% savings!). Purchasing any one of the 9 ships individually, or any one of the 3-pack bundles, will make the account ineligible to purchase the 9-pack bundle. Also, purchasing one of the factional ships individually will make the account ineligible to purchase that faction’s 3-pack bundle. Once the 9-pack bundle is purchased, the individual faction appropriate ships become available to claim on each character on your account via the C-Store.

So that's around €50 for a single faction or all 3 factions for the "bargain" price of €100...


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on February 24, 2014, 05:44:59 AM
I've not seen anything but bitching about the Dyson ships and how "terrible" they are.  "They don't DPS, they don't work well as Science since they're so fragile and only have 9 consoles" was the bitch from the guy in fleet chat yesterday.

I'll agree with the fragility of the freebie, but you're not supposed to get aggro in it, you're not a tank.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tyrnan on February 24, 2014, 06:53:51 AM
I haven't flown one outside the FE episode. Are they really that fragile?  I could see me maybe picking up the Romulan pack (with the "free" Zen from my LTS since it's almost back to 5k after getting the Vest pack last year) since they still seem to be oddly science light.  But the fact that it doesn't come with the secondary deflector to complete the set would probably annoy me every time I flew it.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on February 24, 2014, 09:37:09 AM
I'm only a casual player and not doing any extensive number crunching on it, but they felt that way to me.   They only have two eng. consoles, so they're going to be more fragile based on that alone.  I was doing an all-cannon/ turret/ 360 device build on it and going POP very frequently because I drew aggro.

Which leads to another problem. They're a hybrid, but don't allow for that properly.  Tactical mode enables the perma-fixed forward cannon, but the ship has several Beam-Only "subsystem targeting" abilities that can take enemy ship systems offline.  Meaning you're going to be sub-optimal on DPS or have a useless cannon slot on your science ship.

It *really* seems like what you're supposed to do is equip all of the systems from the featured content and then incorporate the Dyson reputation weapons.  However I haven't found anyone who's done so and reported back how successful it is.

http://sto.gamepedia.com/Solanae_Class
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Experimental_Proton_Weapon#Experimental_Proton_Weapon
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Solanae_Hybrid_Technologies


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tyrnan on February 24, 2014, 10:01:22 AM
Thanks for the info.  The Dyson set does sound like it could be interesting in conjunction with the ship.  But I've only managed to get one character to the point of almost completing the Romulan rep, and that was only because Epoh tagging was so easy.  There's no way I'd start another rep grind.

Guess I'll just hold onto the Zen for now and hope there's something worth spending it on in the future.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on February 24, 2014, 10:29:54 AM
Dyson rep grind is super, super easy compared to the others.  I finished it on my Fed and now I'm working on the last segment for my Rommie.  Meanwhile, I crapped out at Tier 2 of the other grinds because farming for tokens is such bullshit, then you need to farm for even more to unlock the store items or special construction? Fuck. That.

Dyson is this: Login to Sphere Space, do a daily that takes 4-10 mins, get a once-every-19-hours token.  Or run a Dyson mission instance in a group for a token.  Apply that token to the rep project for 2,000 rep.  Repeat for a few months.  That's it. 

Store unlocks all items as you go, and the only projects are the actual set weapons and consoles. They should mod all the other bullshit reps to the same system.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tyrnan on February 24, 2014, 10:56:09 AM
Oh ok that sounds like it should be doable.  Do you get one of those "make this shit faster for my alts" things when you max it or is that just for the shittier ones?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on February 24, 2014, 11:54:08 AM
I got to Dyson tier V in a week. It took two months to do that for Omega rep.

I've also done the full Dyson load out on my Rommie's Dyson ship and it's still sub-par compared to both the adapted destroyer and the defiant retrofit.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Kitsune on February 24, 2014, 12:27:06 PM
The Dyson science ships suck.  If you want a science ship, you're vastly better off picking a badass science ship like a Vesta.  If you want an escort, pretty much every free endgame escort is superior.  Its whole gimmick transforms you from an inferior science ship to an inferior escort, woo boy.  The hulls themselves are mediocre for the $$$ versions, and flatly subpar for the free ones you get from grinding the event.

The consoles on the zen ships are pretty powerful, but to get them you have to drop from $50 to $100, and they then take up 30% of your available console space that you could be using for permanent buffs.  If for some reason you have a huge nerd boner over the appearance of the ships and are sitting on a pile of money, then sure, drop the benjamin for them, stick on the gimmick clicky consoles, and have fun.  But if you aren't super thrilled by the prospect of flying around in one and just want a powerful ship, save your cash.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tyrnan on February 24, 2014, 02:09:11 PM
I got to Dyson tier V in a week. It took two months to do that for Omega rep.

I've also done the full Dyson load out on my Rommie's Dyson ship and it's still sub-par compared to both the adapted destroyer and the defiant retrofit.
From grinding the missions I assume?  How pugable are they?  I hardly even group in this game but that might be the incentive I need.

The Dyson science ships suck.  If you want a science ship, you're vastly better off picking a badass science ship like a Vesta.  If you want an escort, pretty much every free endgame escort is superior.  Its whole gimmick transforms you from an inferior science ship to an inferior escort, woo boy.  The hulls themselves are mediocre for the $$$ versions, and flatly subpar for the free ones you get from grinding the event.

The consoles on the zen ships are pretty powerful, but to get them you have to drop from $50 to $100, and they then take up 30% of your available console space that you could be using for permanent buffs.  If for some reason you have a huge nerd boner over the appearance of the ships and are sitting on a pile of money, then sure, drop the benjamin for them, stick on the gimmick clicky consoles, and have fun.  But if you aren't super thrilled by the prospect of flying around in one and just want a powerful ship, save your cash.

Yeah I already have the Vesta pack for my Fed toons, I was just looking for something science-y for my Rom if I ever get around to finishing leveling her.  And the Rom version of the Dyson looks OK to me (the Fed one is terrible!) but that's definitely not enough to make me shell out if it's a sub-par ship.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on February 24, 2014, 02:22:42 PM
I got to Dyson tier V in a week. It took two months to do that for Omega rep.

I've been playing the same character since beta, and she's still at Tier II Omega.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on February 24, 2014, 02:50:18 PM
I run my fleet D'Deridex with my Rommie sci (I bought both Ships with the D'Deridex Consoles) and it works fine and I find it very enjoyable. You can try the Mirror Universe Ha'nom Guardian Warbird from the exchange as well as its a proper sci ship.

Basically, take your pick from this list

http://sto.gamepedia.com/Romulan_playable_starship

Anyway, yep, I love the look of the Rommie Dyson ship, but nothing I have seen makes me long to buy the thing.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on February 24, 2014, 03:07:17 PM
Yeah I already have the Vesta pack for my Fed toons, I was just looking for something science-y for my Rom if I ever get around to finishing leveling her.  And the Rom version of the Dyson looks OK to me (the Fed one is terrible!) but that's definitely not enough to make me shell out if it's a sub-par ship.

Yeah, the problem is that there's only 2 science ships for Roms.  The Dyson and the Ha'nom.  So folks were really excited to see the Dyson and are understandably disappointed its so lackluster.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on February 24, 2014, 03:14:49 PM
Don't forget the Rmor Temporal science ship if you have a few tens of millions to throw away!  :grin:

http://sto.gamepedia.com/R%27Mor_Temporal_Science_Vessel


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tyrnan on February 24, 2014, 03:18:41 PM
I run my fleet D'Deridex with my Rommie sci (I bought both Ships with the D'Deridex Consoles) and it works fine and I find it very enjoyable. You can try the Mirror Universe Ha'nom Guardian Warbird from the exchange as well as its a proper sci ship.

Basically, take your pick from this list

http://sto.gamepedia.com/Romulan_playable_starship

Anyway, yep, I love the look of the Rommie Dyson ship, but nothing I have seen makes me long to buy the thing.

I play the game very sporadically, usually for maybe a month and then fuck off for a year or so, so I've never had a fleet anything.  I have the legacy pack though so I guess the D'Deridex Retrofit should work nearly as well.

Yeah, the problem is that there's only 2 science ships for Roms.  The Dyson and the Ha'nom.  So folks were really excited to see the Dyson and are understandably disappointed its so lackluster.

Yep, I thought the Rommie temporal science ship might be a possibility until I looked at it and realised it's just the Wells with a different skin.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on February 24, 2014, 03:29:49 PM
Yeah, I was debating even mentioning the "fleet" part. All the fleet part does is add an engi console. I was playing with the standard D'D retrofit for a month and I was perfectly happy with it on my sci. I just got the fleet one on a whim as I had the zen and marks handy. But the standard D'D retrofit will work absolutely fine for your sci.

I do recommend getting the console from the D'ridthau as well though, as the turning boost from the D'D set makes the D'D Retrofit more enjoyable to fly, and the abilities are useful. Its an extra 1500 zen but if you are going to spend the cash you might as well do it right.

*Edit* oh, you have the legacy pack? Well hey forget I said that then, just strap on those 2 consoles!


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tyrnan on February 24, 2014, 03:42:05 PM
Sounds like a plan.  Now I just need to find the time to actually play the damn game!  :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Kitsune on February 25, 2014, 12:42:18 PM
Science is generally a poor option for non-Feds, as essentially their entire fleet is specialized to other purposes.  Faffing about with the few abilities of a science ship will get you worse results than focusing on your cloaking and singularity boosts for Romulans, and the buff auras for Klingon battlecruisers are also generally more useful.

The only science ship I consider to be worth the trouble is the Vesta, and then only because it's also a carrier, has very good clicky console powers, and can be buffed to an escort's turn rate to go with the unique heavy cannons it carries.  It requires a pretty specific build to be able to make use of all of its features, however.  The phaser aux cannons in front, phaser turrets in back, the 360-degree Dyson beam in back to let you use the subsystem targeting powers, as many phaser damage boosting consoles as it will fit, and turnrate boosting consoles until the thing is zippy enough to actually keep the cannons on an opponent.  Some people dump the aux cannons completely and fit it as a beamboat, but having half of your guns draw from auxiliary power instead of draining your weapon power is an advantage that I didn't want to ignore.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Der Helm on February 26, 2014, 03:37:17 AM
So, I made it to level 50. Fun ride, much more enjoyable than I thought it would be in the beginning. Now what the fuck do I do. I guess I have quite a lot of missions I never even started because I almost exclusively followed the main story arc for Romulans. I am flying the Ha'fe Assault warbird. How do I go about getting some nice upgrades, there are so many options.  :awesome_for_real:

I guess I have 2-3 goals right now.
1. Fitting out my actual warbird.
2. Try some PvP (don't stone me)
3. Getting a D'deridex or Ha' a pax  warbird (and trying a beam based DPS build because that sounds like fun if it can be done)

But how ? Which factions ? How do I dilithium ? Fleet marks ? Wtf ... Haelp!  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on February 26, 2014, 06:36:40 AM
If you want to spend some money, the Haakona could be interesting for a Tac as with the universal slot you can have 3 Tactical boffs running, and its pretty maneuverable once it splits. I might try that myself.

You can try PVP if you want... You will understand once you do... Heh heh.  :grin:

As for Dil, there are quite a few ways to get it. STFs, running "hand in Contraband" doff missions, doff missions themselves and mining are the main ways, and you can get quite a bit from running doff missions that give you 50 dilithium. You can only "refine" 8000 a day per character, but you can swap dil between chars using the Dil exchange.

To be honest, I have quite a few characters, and I used to get a ton of it simply by going through them all and just setting up Doff missions.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on February 26, 2014, 07:10:30 AM
Outfitting your ship:
Remember a few things in regard to this.  It can be a long process (I have one, maybe two of my alts who are near maxed out gear-wise, and I've been at this since beta), and the difference between good gear and the best gear is small, smaller than in most mmo's I would say.  That is not to say it isn't worthwhile, but you will function just fine in pretty much all of the game's content even with relatively basic gear.  The good stuff just makes it go more smoothly.

So, to start off, make sure you have at least mark XI gear across the board.  Go to the exchange and buy up all the blue/green stuff you can afford.  It's all quite cheap, but if you need help there, let us know.  Higher end stuff comes from multiple sources like reputation and certain mission replays.  The Omega rep ship equipment is still among the best you can get, but in the meantime, the Solanae ship gear you can get from replaying A Step Between Stars is quite good for a starter set.

What weapon type should you use?  The answer is whichever one you find prettiest.  Antiproton and Romulan plasma are generally considered the best, but if you just loooove the way tetryon beams look, you aren't gimping yourself by any great deal.  Choosing weapon damage type has greater importance in pvp, but I have no real experience there.

Fleet gear is very good, but try not to buy it from our store.  Instead, get an invite to a high ranking fleet's starbase and get the good stuff from them.  The way fleet provisioning works is that even when you buy from another fleet's starbase, you draw provisions from your own.  Many high ranking fleets will let you on their base for free, as it costs them nothing to do so.  There are even chat channels specifically for this.  Ships are the sole exception.  To buy the high end ships, you have to be a member of that fleet.

PvP:
Can't help you there.

Beam boats:
They are quite fun, and satisfying to play.  I'm a bit rusty on specific builds or what the current FOTM is, but you can look all that stuff up.

Which factions?  Well, if you only have one or two characters, all of them.  You get a slew of passive abilities for going up the ranks in the different ones.  I recommend going to at least tier 2 in everything.  For Omega, learn Infected Space Elite.  It gets boring after a while, but it is quick, straightforward, and puggable.  For Romulan, breed epohhs.  The time to mark ratio just can't be beat.  It takes a few days for your breeding process to come up to speed, but then the marks start flowing.  Nukara rep is a pain.  I leveled all my alts by getting reputation packs from the summer and winter events.  Dyson rep is a breeze.  All you have to do is a five minute solo mission once a day and you can slot a daily xp project.

Here's how you dilithium.  Roll a Klingon alt.  Run marauding duty officer assignments.  Get stacks of contraband.  Mail some to your fed character.  Have everyone turn in contraband for dilithium.  Profit.  Also, do the daily trivia mission at the academy.  A few seconds of work gets you an easy 480 dilithium.  Using the dilithium exchange, you can trade dilithium between alts as well.

I'd say the most straightforward way to earn fleet marks is to do the Colony Invasion instance.  There's also a defend the starbase space instance.  I forget the name of it.

I could go on for pages about any one of these topics, so I'll just stop here and say whatever specific question you might have in the future, I can probably give you an answer.

Edit:  Another way to get yourself geared up in mark XI is do do mission replays, as the rewards scale to your level.  But unless you really really enjoy doing them, just know that I would be happy to float a few hundred thousand EC your way instead.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on February 26, 2014, 08:58:51 AM
All I can add is that if you are experimenting stick to white mark XI gear as it will cost you basicly nothing, but Mark XI is a minimum for the top end content. Better is better of course but you wont embarrass yourself with that. I would certainly only get the white weapon boost consoles for now as they can get pretty damn expensive for even green quality ones.

For getting stuff that costs you nothing, there is a list of all the mission rewards here

http://sto.gamepedia.com/Mission_rewards

Pick what you want and repeat that mission till you get all you want. Now that you are max level it will all be mark XI

Oh and the acadamy question and answer thing is easy if you cheat and look up the answer here  :grin:  http://sto.gamepedia.com/Lore


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Father mike on February 26, 2014, 03:57:35 PM
two things:

1.  Many thanks for all the excellent info folks have posted over the past few days.   But ... when folks say, "if you want to know more,you can look it up."  Where do I go?  most of the sources  I find are over 18 months old.  Does the game just not change very much, or am I just failing at google that badly?

2.  Anyone taking bets on whether or not the expanded inventory going in soon means the end of using mail as unlimited storage?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on February 26, 2014, 07:14:06 PM
The STO wiki is a pretty decent source for all things STO. It may not be 100% up to date in parts but frankly the horror of updating stuff patch after patch would kind of thankless. Anyway it should be accurate enough to give you the nessesery info to puzzle out any inconsistencies for yourself.

http://sto.gamepedia.com/Main_Page


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on February 27, 2014, 04:14:12 AM
I'm sitting on an assload of mirror ships and about half a billion EC, if you need gear or cash, let me know.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on February 27, 2014, 05:52:06 AM
There should be a few mirror ships in the fleet bank as well.  No Romulan ones, though.  I'll look into fixing that this evening.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on February 28, 2014, 06:25:07 AM
I left a bunch of warbirds in the fleet bank. Go nuts.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on February 28, 2014, 08:18:33 AM
How close to Tier2 Spire is the F13 fleet?  My rommy's been donating to her current fleet projects but despite this I'm still stuck at a "can't use fleet requisitions" rank. At this point it looks like it's a vanity fleet for the leader to funnel all the reqs to his 9 characters, so fuck that.   I'm aiming for the Fleet 1000-day ship as I've found the regular version fun and want the extra survivability.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on February 28, 2014, 10:23:47 AM
The project for Tier 1 is up right now, but not completed yet.  I don't see us ever getting to Tier 2, frankly.  There's just not enough of us actively playing to be able to contribute enough to get us that far.  That being said, I try to keep us provisioned so that we can score invites to better starbases and buy their stuff!


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on February 28, 2014, 12:10:16 PM
The project for Tier 1 is up right now, but not completed yet.  I don't see us ever getting to Tier 2, frankly.  There's just not enough of us actively playing to be able to contribute enough to get us that far.  That being said, I try to keep us provisioned so that we can score invites to better starbases and buy their stuff!
I gave until it hurt, man. :)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on February 28, 2014, 01:26:18 PM
I tried playing last night, but it was totally unplayable for me. My internet seems to have gotten worse since I played it last.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on February 28, 2014, 01:58:21 PM
The project for Tier 1 is up right now, but not completed yet.  I don't see us ever getting to Tier 2, frankly.  There's just not enough of us actively playing to be able to contribute enough to get us that far.  That being said, I try to keep us provisioned so that we can score invites to better starbases and buy their stuff!
I gave until it hurt, man. :)

I'm still giving 'til it hurts, at least, dil-wise. I could run more missions for fleet marks, but I'm preoccupied with Omega/MACO shit at the moment.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on February 28, 2014, 05:24:25 PM
The project for Tier 1 is up right now, but not completed yet.  I don't see us ever getting to Tier 2, frankly.  There's just not enough of us actively playing to be able to contribute enough to get us that far.  That being said, I try to keep us provisioned so that we can score invites to better starbases and buy their stuff!
I gave until it hurt, man. :)

I'm still giving 'til it hurts, at least, dil-wise. I could run more missions for fleet marks, but I'm preoccupied with Omega/MACO shit at the moment.
I've got the Mark XII Omega space set queued up (got the Mark XI on my ship), and everything paid for but the dilithium. I love the Christmas event for the Epohh breeding, got me to T5 Dyson, and paid for the Marks for the Omega Mk XII weapons, the Romulan prototype Mk XII weapon and engine set...


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on March 01, 2014, 06:30:04 AM
To be clear, my statement wasn't meant as, "why aren't you assholes contributing more?!"  However, the requirements for the Tier 2 projects ramp up considerably, and my fleet marks are dwindling rapidly as it is.  Realistically, a fleet our size can't really hope for much more than we got, unless everyone got on every day and ground out multiple alts, and then funneled everything into the starbase.  That would just be silly and unfun.

The good news is that for everything but ships, it doesn't matter.  Get an invite to a big base, and you're set.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Torinak on March 01, 2014, 05:23:08 PM
Thanks for all the helpful suggestions in this thread. After paying a bit more attention to BOff skills (being able to clear debuffs is helpful), and some minor ship gear upgrades, I'm finding most lvl 50 missions a lot more doable. The big Romulan ships still cause problems (stupid tractor beam + 3 plasma torpedos at point-blank range), and I can't really tank borg cubes. I'm still in an Assault Cruiser; what should I be aiming for next as a Fed Engineer?

What types of ships/loadouts are people using to take out a borg cube in ~15-20 seconds? I've seen a Scimitar do it, but also some tiny Fed (?) ships. I haven't been able to click on any of them yet to ID them.

I've found most ground missions pretty easy, or completely impossible (one guy who one-shots the entire party). I gave one of my BOffs an old Fire Suppression Device just to get it out of my inventory, and she runs around spraying it everywhere...which seems to clear any debuff. Am I imagining things, or is it really as good as its tooltip suggests? ("Extinguishes Fires. Removes up to 100 bleed or debuff effects")


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on March 01, 2014, 07:02:08 PM
IIRC, the "blow a borg cube up in seconds" is called "a tactics guy blowing ALL his cooldowns simultaneously".

My main's an engineer.  The ship I fly the most is the stock Recon Science Vessel -- the one you can outright just get for your last free ship.

Admittedly, I've given it lots of nice things (I'm currently outfitting the Breen vessel from 2012's event as a cannon boat), and my officers are well trained  -- but it's a nice sturdy ship, and it does fine against Borg.

I previously was flying it as a pure Beam/Photon torpedo boat, and it did solidly even before I started buying the Mark XII fleet phaser arrays and photon launchers.



Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on March 01, 2014, 07:28:24 PM
IIRC, the "blow a borg cube up in seconds" is called "a tactics guy blowing ALL his cooldowns simultaneously".

With fleet gear in a 5 tac-console ship and Doffs/ Boffs all focused on that purpose.

Seriously, I've been in groups with guys who explode shit like I'm using Mk1 gear.  I've resigned myself to knowing I'll never, ever be that Uber and am ok with it now.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on March 01, 2014, 07:32:04 PM
IIRC, the "blow a borg cube up in seconds" is called "a tactics guy blowing ALL his cooldowns simultaneously".

With fleet gear in a 5 tac-console ship and Doffs/ Boffs all focused on that purpose.

Seriously, I've been in groups with guys who explode shit like I'm using Mk1 gear.  I've resigned myself to knowing I'll never, ever be that Uber and am ok with it now.
I admit, grabbing the Romulan Plasma Balls of Death has helped my damage a bit. :) I'm running Plasma Ball of Death, Prototype Plasma Beam, and the Borg Plasma Torpedo thingy on the front, then two plasma beams and the kinetic cutting beam on the back.

Most of my consoles support that, of course. :) Some good choice of space doffs help with my gravity wells and tractors (it's lovely to see a shield collapse under my tractor beam, then a overcharged plasma torpedo hit it), and I do allright. But I was doing fine with mixed blues and greens from just hitting 50.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on March 02, 2014, 05:28:30 PM
What types of ships/loadouts are people using to take out a borg cube in ~15-20 seconds? I've seen a Scimitar do it, but also some tiny Fed (?) ships. I haven't been able to click on any of them yet to ID them.

They are probably Defiants or fleet Defiants. Fleet Defiants have 5 tactical slots for uber damage.

For ship boff powers I would have Attack pattern Beta at least. That reduces the resistances of the thing you are shooting at, ergo more damage from both you and your team your team. I'd also have auxiliary power to structural as its a fast cycling hull heal and it increases your hull resistances for10 seconds.  Emergency power to engines is a good alternitive as it gives you a massive speed boost to get out of trouble or into trouble depending on the situation. Emergency power to shields is also a good one. Aside from that its really up to you what you like.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on March 02, 2014, 08:42:04 PM
I've always seen fleet defiants do it. And the occasional super tricked-out Andorian escort. I put out a shitload of damage with my current setup, but I get wtfpwned by Kumaris.

My current setup looks like this:

(http://i.imgur.com/pAfSsVO.png)

That's a quad cannon, Omega torp, Voth wide-angle chroniton/transphasic torp and a fleet dual heavy antiproton cannon up front, Dyson experimental (Skeet) cannon, kinetic cutting beam and Breen transphasic cluster torpedo in the back. Full tron set of shield, deflector, impulse (thanks Rish) and full Omega, Dyson and tal-shiar adapted console loadouts. I'll drop a cube in about 45 seconds.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tyrnan on March 03, 2014, 01:59:45 PM
So I got my Rommie to 50 over the weekend and got my D'd retrofit and it's a damn nice ship, thanks for suggesting it.  Currently have it set up Tac heavy since I'm soloing but it can still take a good amount of punishment and dish it right back out.  Did GW get a buff or something recently?  Even with just the rank 1 version it seems to be holding stuff in place much better than I remember.  Although I really wish it and Projected Singularity didn't share a cooldown.

Also gave the Haakona a go since I thought it would be nice to pilot the tactical vector, for a change of pace, with a healing pet in tow.  But the pet AI is completely fucking retarded.  It either lags 20km behind me or tries to hump me, constantly doing 180 degree flips.  It Singularity Jumps at the start of battles when there's nothing near it.  In about half a dozen missions it used a grand total of one heal on me.  And to top it all off it must be the only Rommie ship that can't cloak!  I know the MVAE pets weren't exactly smart but I don't remember them being quite so bad.

Edit: Oh and the Dyson rep is an absolute joy compared to the others.  Spent a couple of hours in the battlezone tonight and actually had fun in ground combat for the first time in years.  Not to mention earning ~800 marks, 20 implants and a shitload of dil while doing it.  I really hope any future rep grinds are more like this.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on March 03, 2014, 04:39:33 PM
Holy shit you earned that many marks in ground in the battlezone?  Fuck, I've been doing space PvE. Lozar is me.

I picked-up the Rommie Dreadnaught pack because *zen sale*  :awesome_for_real:  Having a fun time but it's so damn large it feels like a whale, despite being as nimble as the smaller ships.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tyrnan on March 04, 2014, 06:21:08 AM
Yeah I was reading some threads on the forums where people were complaining about how grindy getting the marks were.  They were doing the PvE queues and a lot of people suggested the battlezone instead so I figured I'd check it out.  Considering I wasn't teamed and hadn't a clue what I was doing in the beginning I think the rewards were pretty damn good.  Just try and find capture points where there's at least another player or two unless you have uber gear as some of the mobs hit like a truck.

Oh and enjoy knocking small moons out of orbit with that dread!  :grin:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on March 04, 2014, 11:20:52 AM
The battlezones are severely hit or miss. If you can join the zerg, you rake it in. If you can't reach the zerg, you spend 30-45 minutes dying repeatedly and leave with almost nothing to show for it.

I've tried them a few times, and I just don't like them much. Also "ground combat sucks" and whatnot. (It's better than it was, but... yeah.)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Kitsune on March 04, 2014, 12:38:01 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/pAfSsVO.png)

If I were you, I'd switch weapons to a more uniform damage type and drop some of the gimmick consoles to free up room in the tactical slots to buff that one damage type.  You have an entire box of lucky charms equipped in your weapon slots, which is making you give up on the doubled damage you could be doing if you had your weapons of a single energy flavor and used your four tac consoles to boost that one flavor.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on March 04, 2014, 05:19:55 PM
I can't decide whether to boost plasma beams or plasma torpedoes. Does the Borg torpedo launcher count as plasma?

So I split it -- half go to plasma beams, half go to plasma projectile damage.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on March 04, 2014, 05:48:09 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/pAfSsVO.png)

If I were you, I'd switch weapons to a more uniform damage type and drop some of the gimmick consoles to free up room in the tactical slots to buff that one damage type.  You have an entire box of lucky charms equipped in your weapon slots, which is making you give up on the doubled damage you could be doing if you had your weapons of a single energy flavor and used your four tac consoles to boost that one flavor.

Each of those lucky charms contributes to the trick consoles and gives me a fuckton more survivability. I've got a fleet defiant now that's all one flavor and it's gotten rocked every time I've taken it out so far. The damage is a lot higher, yes but it folds like a poker player with a handful of garbage. I'll try to refit the destroyer with all one type of damage and see what I can get with that.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on March 05, 2014, 03:08:05 AM
Since we are on the subject of loadouts, and the pwerson asking was using an assault cruiser, heres mine for my Galaxy Retrofit that might be more appropriate


The single grean beam is becasue I'm ising the Phaser disruptor hybrids from the Galor class and I never bothers spending the dil for the last beam. Its the fleet variant so theres an extra eng slot, but the important thing is the 3 neutronium and the RCS console. A similar setup in any fed cruiser will walk through STFs. Its simple but effective.

One thing you are probably not aware of is Kaybinds. Thats why I am showing slot number 7 in the pic. Keybinds are a way to program a series of things to happen when you press a key. The one I use is a very simple one from here

http://hilbertguide.com/

Skip down the page till you get to keybinds, where he expplains how to use it( The rest of it is pretty out of date but interesting to read nonethaless). Its basiucly download a file and put it into your sto folder, type a command in game and you are set. The one I use equilises the shields and runs a command in sequence when I press the space bar. The commands are ones you put intu tray 7. For example, If I had 2 tactical teams and 2 EPTS in the tray, it will fire each of them in sequence as I press the space bar every second or 2, making my shields react to incoming fire AND punmping power into my shields almost constantly. As you can tell this makea LOT of difference to my survivability. You have to keep pressing the spacebar as itwill only fire one of the commands at once, but its no great hardship.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tyrnan on March 05, 2014, 06:16:18 AM
I keep forgetting this game uses a modified CoH engine and the same bind system, will have to look into that.  And since we're on loadouts I guess I should get some opinions on where to go with mine.


I'm currently using the Polarized Tetryons because a) they're easy to get and b) I wanted to see if the increased proc was any good (I've never really noticed it make much of a difference so maybe it's still bugged?).  But I was thinking of two other possible short-term loadouts until I'm finished with the Rom rep and see if I want to go with that set instead.

1. Antiprotons using the Omni one and either the blues from the rerun or some off the exchange.  Although the only ones that seem to be on the exchange are the Voth ones, are they decent?  My crit chance in space is only showing up as 6% but I assume that gets modified further by stuff like weapon mods and acc overflow?  I might have missed some SRO boffs as I leveled as I never really paid much attention to their traits  :heartbreak:

2. Some flavour of Disruptors for the proc (would that hit any sort of dimishing returns with APB?) and because they look more Romulan.  Was thinking of maybe using the Bio-molecular warheads since they're the green photons (right?) for the same reason.  Does anyone know if the increased photon damage from stuff like the Dyson set affects them?

Willing to look at other shield/engine/deflector sets too, as long as they don't involve Task Force Omega (I've never done an STF and likely never will and there's no way I'm grinding to T5 in that ground zone!).  I'm just using the Dyson one for now since it's MK XII and was easy to get.

Fake edit: 9% base crit now since I just finished Rom Tier 2  :grin:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on March 05, 2014, 07:22:39 AM
To be honest, I always seem to go back to the Aegis set.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on March 05, 2014, 12:01:15 PM
Voth antiprotons are decent, but overpriced due to limited availability.  If you find one at a reasonable price then sure, grab it.  The bio-molecular warhead is basically a green photon with a damage boost against Undine.  It's a solid torpedo, especially if you want to keep that Romulan feel.  Anything that boosts photon damage affects them.  The disruptor proc is one of the best ones, and it stacks with APB, so little to no diminishing returns.

You thought you got Omega rep from that ground zone?  Good God man!  Omega ground missions are done for fun, and almost nothing else.  If you are looking to grind marks either wait for the Summer/Winter events or do space instances.  One instance of Infected: The Conduit (Elite) a day and you've made enough marks to complete both daily xp projects and still save a little extra.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tyrnan on March 05, 2014, 12:22:01 PM
You thought you got Omega rep from that ground zone?  Good God man!  Omega ground missions are done for fun, and almost nothing else.  If you are looking to grind marks either wait for the Summer/Winter events or do space instances.  One instance of Infected: The Conduit (Elite) a day and you've made enough marks to complete both daily xp projects and still save a little extra.
Oh trust me I know the ground zone would be a horrendous way to do the rep grind, I just seem to have an intense aversion to PUGs (CoH was the only game I ever really enjoyed PUGing in, every other game I always seem to get the GOGOGOGO/ragequitter crowd) and/or STFs.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on March 05, 2014, 01:50:09 PM
I've found that if you get a good PUG for infected: The Conduit Elite or The Cure: Found Elite, you can get your daily dose of Omega marks in about a half hour, tops.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on March 05, 2014, 04:54:11 PM
And if not you'll waste about an hour before you get the marks as people suicide rush the whole thing.  Either way, ~65 marks for less headaches.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on March 05, 2014, 10:34:14 PM
You do get more marks for doing the Omega Ground missions however. You really need a group that knows what they are doing however.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on March 06, 2014, 05:06:13 AM
Yes. And the problem is most people in ground missions to this day still don't have their shit together.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on March 06, 2014, 05:44:20 AM
If what Surlyboi suggested seems like too much, just running ISE once a day will take you ten minutes on average.  It's very pug friendly.  If all of your teammates are pants-on-head, it might take fifteen minutes instead.  You get a nice little bump of marks and dilithium, even a decent bit of loot occasionally.  Even failing the optional objective, you get more marks than you would need to slot both daily xp projects.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tyrnan on March 06, 2014, 09:05:11 AM
I think I might have actually run that one on normal way back, the walkthrough certainly sounded familiar.  I might give it another go at some stage once I have my setup finalised.  Do people still run the normal version?  I'd rather get any fuck-ups out of my system in that before trying elite.  And I'm guessing stuff like FAW and Torp Spread wouldn't be the best abilities to bring for the generator part?  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on March 06, 2014, 11:26:01 AM
Oh no, FAW is still good stuff, just wait to use it until all the generators are ready to pop.  Same with torp spread.  Be careful when and where you use it.  In fact, a common strategy is to Gravity Well the blob of spheres that spawn after the generators are blown.  FAW and torp spread abilities are terrific at this point.

Something to keep in mind when bringing the generators down:  The common wisdom is to knock each one down to 10% and then destroy them all at once.  This does not take into account the possibility that you have teammates who are unaware of this tactic.  So what I do is knock each down to just 50% on my first lap and THEN go around a second time to get them to 10%.  This gives the team a cushion so if someone does pop a generator early, it is still possible to bring the rest down in a timely fashion before the nanite spheres arrive.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on March 06, 2014, 11:52:37 AM
I'd give advice, but I'd simply direct you to the tutorial on ISE that I did a while back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZMqh2UBOIU

This is my Cure space one. Its not as good but it will show you whats involved if you want to give it a try. I meant to do one for the third one but I never got around to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JWNaMLfuHw

DOnt bother with normal for anything other then practice. The amount of marks and dil you get is miniscule and not worth your time.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tyrnan on March 07, 2014, 11:59:47 AM
I'd give advice, but I'd simply direct you to the tutorial on ISE that I did a while back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZMqh2UBOIU

This is my Cure space one. Its not as good but it will show you whats involved if you want to give it a try. I meant to do one for the third one but I never got around to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JWNaMLfuHw

DOnt bother with normal for anything other then practice. The amount of marks and dil you get is miniscule and not worth your time.
Thanks for the links.  I think I'll avoid Cure for the time being as it looks a lot more fuck-upable than Infected.  And yeah, the normal mode runs would be purely for practice to get a feel for it before trying it for real.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on April 22, 2014, 06:42:12 PM
I hear season nine dropped. Any info? I can't seem to get the site to load.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on April 22, 2014, 06:46:08 PM
Undine are everywhere, Reputations have been completely rekajiggered (no more Dyson tokens for ez repping, but also no more store unlocks for old reps)  New Earth Spacedock, totally new kit system for those who actually bother with ground combat,  Oh.. traits have been completely revamped, too. Just got in and got notice about that.

ed:  So the new trait and skill system sucks.  You no longer get ALL the rep bonuses you've ground out. You can only select 4 active space and ground traits from all the ones you've unlocked.   :awesome_for_real:

Though the daily grind no longer takes consumables, so that's a plus.  Just marks, 2k expertise and 15k credits for each 2k rep project.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on April 23, 2014, 06:22:23 AM
The good news:  I figured I would try to make a little ec by stockpiling some keys for a month or two, and take advantage of the inflated "omg new things" pricing and throw it all on the exchange.  I opened two boxes and got a Nicor Cruiser.

The bad news:  If the game doesn't crash the moment I log in, it crashes after five minutes, and then instantly on that character afterwards.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on April 23, 2014, 09:40:46 AM
It's been doing that to me on the OS X client for weeks.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on April 23, 2014, 09:52:50 AM
Tried a fresh install? Any time that happens to me in other MMOs it's a cache problem.  I'm too lazy to hunt for caches so I uninstall then reinstall.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Special J on April 23, 2014, 07:07:57 PM
There was patch that hopefully resolved your issue:

http://community.arcgames.com/en/news/star-trek-online/detail/3043353-release-notes_-april-24_-2014

Resolved an issue which was causing a graphic related crash when attempting to log in at the loading screen.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on April 23, 2014, 10:59:21 PM
Tried a fresh install? Any time that happens to me in other MMOs it's a cache problem.  I'm too lazy to hunt for caches so I uninstall then reinstall.

It's not actually STO, it's Wine. I need to dig into that and debug it. I'll do that next week when the wife's out of town.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on April 24, 2014, 05:55:40 AM
The patch didn't help, so I said fuck it and reinstalled.  It seems to have fixed the problem, thankfully, and I got those Khan outfits as a bonus.  It appeared I was overdue for a reinstall anyways.  The old client is the same one I've been running since beta, and the folder was about 25 gigs.  After the reinstall, 8 gigs.  So yeah, there was probably a small bit of bloat and redundant code in there.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on July 17, 2014, 12:38:31 PM
For anyone interested, there was a patch today that tossed out the crappy old crafting system and replaced it with something new that runs through the Duty Officer system.

I haven't been able to explore it properly yet because they did such a staggering job of shitting up the DOff UI. Less information, harder to focus on critical information, and as frosting on the shit-cake, the game's frequently sub-optimum officer choices are now "helpfully" inserted for you by default. You have to manually replace each and every officer using the same shitty "column of icons" UI that no one likes to use for replacing items on the character sheet.

Oh, and did you like being able to search by officer role, rarity, or including/excluding certain attributes? Too bad - you can't do any of those anymore. You just get a big scrolling stack of headshots for every single officer you have that might be able to fill the role. And remember, some roles can be filled by any officer. So if, like me, you have around 400, you won't be able to find the one you want unless you spend five minutes scrolling through hundreds of NPC portraits sorted in largely random order.

I can't believe this made it through testing.

EDIT:

Holy fucking shit. So everyone has thousands upon thousands of now-obsolete crafting materials sitting in their banks. They're gone, useless, totally obsolete. I myself have 43 stacks of various objects, ranging in size from 60-250.

You have to convert them all to the new system. Manually. By purchasing new items in 1-100 unit increments.

They could have just run a script on the server to convert all everything... but they didn't.

Jesus Christ. It's like they went out of their way to implement everything in the worst and least-convenient way possible.

EDIT 2:

More icing on the shit cake, there's a new sub-inventory page exclusively for crafting materials. Except, they implemented it so items in that sub-inventory sort to the top when you're trying to sell loot at a vendor. So you have to scroll way the fuck down to find the things you actually want to sell after doing missions or raids or whatever.

What is this I don't even

EDIT 3:

You can no longer see how many (total) of a needed resource you have in the assignment tab, only if you have enough for an assignment or not. This is important to me because if I only have three Shapeshifting Lockets left, I don't want to expend them on "Develop Entertainment Applications" until I have more. Now I have to go to a bank and check to see how many of resource X I have left... or cart it around in my inventory.

EDIT 4:

After grappling with it for a couple of days, I've concluded the new "bar graph" approach to showing outcome probabilities is less instantly parse-able and intuitive to me than the old pie chart was. Before it was, okay, blue + green are larger than yellow + red, and red is just a silver, so... go! Now it's all comparing bar lengths and trying to estimate how much it all adds up to.

It also seems to take up more UI real estate.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tannhauser on July 17, 2014, 02:12:05 PM
This all sounds highly illogical.  

Going to go check it out later.

Edit: Yeah, they fucked doffs up.  The crafting is interesting, but I hate the new doff interface.  I'm gobsmacked that they went backwards on this patch.  Glad I didn't get rid of all my old crafting components, I have a bank pack full of them.

Not sure I'll log back in for a while though.  This new patch is highly disappointing.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Morat20 on July 17, 2014, 04:44:11 PM
Will return to check it out in two weeks when they patch out the stupid.

Also, they redid Earthdock and I can't find shit.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on July 18, 2014, 12:38:36 AM
Like the new ESD, everything's a lot closer together and once you run around it a couple of times, it makes sense.

That said, I'll agree with everyone that the DOFF interface is beyond fucked right now. I'm also glad I never got into crafting and I will continue to pretend that part of the game doesn't exist.

I'll sort all that shit out when the Destiny beta is over.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on July 18, 2014, 06:18:42 PM
I was my guilds unoffical crafter of the Aegis set for a while, and thats only because I had one char that leveled up crafting before the shitty Dilithium for crafting came in.

This new system sounds like a Bruce Lee punch in the Balls. I must check it out tomorrow to soak in the rage!


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on August 10, 2014, 11:02:26 AM
Coming in October, Delta Rising (http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/6007253). Adventures in the Delta quadrant. Talaxians and Ocampa and Kazons, oh my!

Apparently, there will be new ships, species, etc... They've hinted at a marginally touched on race's homeworld. I'm hoping it's the Krenim.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Stormwaltz on August 28, 2014, 12:03:15 PM
They announced the details of Tier 6 ships (http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/7001833-tier-6-ships), which have a number of features that add up to "lol @ players who bought ships."

But wait! They assure you, "Players have been invested in this tier of ships for 4 years and we wanted to avoid devaluing the time and money spent in obtaining them."

So you can upgrade your Tier 5 ships to an inferior version of of a Tier 6 (http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/7002133)

Oh, and it will only cost you "somewhere between $5 and $10."

Per ship.

 :argh:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on August 28, 2014, 12:20:36 PM
A New currency or the RMT currency they've always used? If the latter then NBD. Everyone should have invested in the $200 lifer package by now. Free $5 of creds each month.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on August 28, 2014, 04:56:26 PM
It's weird. Some of the ships bought in the CStore will be free upgrades, some won't. Not really a lot of rhyme or reason around it either.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Senses on August 31, 2014, 04:04:47 PM
I'm inbetween games right now and decided to check this out.  I'd say my first few hours exploring as Federation were awful because frankly, its a lot different than most MMOs, from UI, to travel and hotkey setup..but, Once I learned a bit, then restarted as Romulan, I'm really enjoying myself.  I don't think any of the other space genre games capture the flow from space combat to ground combat better.  The missions truly have an episodic feel to them which has been a refreshing change from diku. Travel is still super confusing though, and don't even get me started on crafting, but I thought I'd mention it here for the other MMO Nomads that creep around.  Should be good for 3 weeks of free entertainment.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on August 31, 2014, 04:32:50 PM
Romulan game experience is WAY better than Fed. It took me 2 years to get my first fed up to level because those first few levels sucked so bad and there was nothing to keep me moving forward other than "oooh, Star Trek."  Romulan experience had a great over-arching storyline you were invested in and did the proper "this is what you do, this is how you do it" tutorials at the right spots.  It's very evident which experience was done after lessons were learned.

I agree 100% on the travel. I didn't figure out how the hell the map worked until much, much later.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Senses on August 31, 2014, 05:58:06 PM
Romulan game experience is WAY better than Fed. It took me 2 years to get my first fed up to level because those first few levels sucked so bad and there was nothing to keep me moving forward other than "oooh, Star Trek."  Romulan experience had a great over-arching storyline you were invested in and did the proper "this is what you do, this is how you do it" tutorials at the right spots.  It's very evident which experience was done after lessons were learned.

I agree 100% on the travel. I didn't figure out how the hell the map worked until much, much later.

Well I scratched the experience with the Federation up to simply not being comfortable with game functions, but, it really did seem like the Romulan story, rewards, and general feel were so much more comfortable.  I just finished this Episode where we stumbled upon a Derelict cube where the middle of it had been hollowed out and I almost felt like I was back watching the series and waiting to find out how it happened lol.  Really bringing out the long lost trekkie nerd in me.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on October 15, 2014, 09:13:56 PM
Delta Rising went live yesterday with a few facelifts to some of the visuals and the requisite bugs and crashes to desktop that come with that.

By the time I logged in at about 9PM last night, there were already level 60 Fleet Admirals tooling around.

Catasses gonna catass, I guess.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on October 16, 2014, 06:38:01 AM
Eh, leveling in STO has always been trivial.  I have two mules that I got to 50 in two months just doing the SFA trivia dailies.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on October 16, 2014, 11:32:23 AM
Delta Rising went live yesterday with a few facelifts to some of the visuals and the requisite bugs and crashes to desktop that come with that.

By the time I logged in at about 9PM last night, there were already level 60 Fleet Admirals tooling around.

Catasses gonna catass, I guess.

From what I hear the people that have hit 60 did it by grinding pve queues and such.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Furiously on November 11, 2014, 10:59:32 AM
The amount of exp questing gives after 50 is pathetic.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on November 11, 2014, 09:08:26 PM
Meh. I got a level every mission and a half. Can't complain.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: 5150 on December 05, 2014, 05:17:26 AM
Q's wonder land is live and this years it's a Breen carrier.

The best news (IMO) is that it's now way less grindy for alts


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Scold on December 11, 2014, 02:30:27 AM
If I just want to play this solo for the storylines, SWTOR style, how viable is that?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: 5150 on December 11, 2014, 05:12:50 AM
If I just want to play this solo for the storylines, SWTOR style, how viable is that?

Very, the Romulan story is generally regarded as the best, historically Klingons was worst although I believe they've done some work in that dept. (can't personally say as it's been years since I've levelled a Klingon). Romulans are force to pick a side (Fed or Klingon) at level 10 which opens up that factions missions as well.

The story arcs are well paced IMO but you'll finish the Romulan specific stuff and hit the all faction content probably around level 30 (depending on how hard you do duty officicer missions once you unlock them)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Kitsune on December 11, 2014, 09:39:16 AM
STO has no real equivalent to SWTOR's storyline.  Voice acting is few and far between, and there are very few multi-mission plots.  The closest they come is the Romulan stuff.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Rishathra on December 11, 2014, 11:40:06 AM
There are a few story arcs over a handful of missions here and there, and many missions do a good job mining nuggets from stories from several series and merging them into a single narrative.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 12, 2014, 04:31:31 AM
Still, the Romulan arc is pretty fun, and the klingon storyline is fun if you like watching Klingons being played like idiots by the fed intelligence services (like I do!)

The feds don't really have a story as such.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Scold on December 12, 2014, 10:58:14 AM
So sounds like I should start two chars, one romulan fed one romulan Klingon, and then I'm good to go on experiencing all story content?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on December 12, 2014, 01:47:31 PM
One Romulan Fed, one straight Klink.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Furiously on December 12, 2014, 01:58:45 PM
Or a klink, and a romulan klink so you can get more of that delicious contraband.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Scold on December 14, 2014, 02:04:51 AM
One Romulan Fed, one straight Klink.

What's the difference between Straight Klingon vs Romulan Klingon? (Also, is there a big difference between the Rom Fed and Rom Klingon story content?)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on December 14, 2014, 06:37:52 AM
Fed Romulans had some missions from the Fed side sprinkled through their lines to introduce things like the Black Ops guy and get you to DS9 and the Ferengi outpost. You did similar but not exactly the same stories for those guys. 

I imagine the Klingon Roms do the same thing.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Scold on December 14, 2014, 11:57:41 AM
Fed Romulans had some missions from the Fed side sprinkled through their lines to introduce things like the Black Ops guy and get you to DS9 and the Ferengi outpost. You did similar but not exactly the same stories for those guys. 

I imagine the Klingon Roms do the same thing.

Ah, okay -- and the reason I'm not missing anything if I don't play straight Fed is that the Feds are so lacking in real storyline?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on December 14, 2014, 12:09:35 PM
Romulan Fed for the Romulan and Fed story lines, as the early Fed storyline is weak sauce.

Straight Klink because you already got the Romulan story with your Rom Fed and then you get to go to Klink hell with your new Klingon.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on December 14, 2014, 01:24:14 PM
Fed Romulans had some missions from the Fed side sprinkled through their lines to introduce things like the Black Ops guy and get you to DS9 and the Ferengi outpost. You did similar but not exactly the same stories for those guys. 

I imagine the Klingon Roms do the same thing.

Ah, okay -- and the reason I'm not missing anything if I don't play straight Fed is that the Feds are so lacking in real storyline?

Yeah, though to be Honest I'd probably switch it up to Rom Klink and then Fed.  Everyone says how terrible the Klink side is that I've never tried it.  The Fed side was boring, because the style was pretty bland. However, at least there were chapters and you could run through them and get some sort of storyline going. 

Seems that running Klink Rom at least gets you a story while going through things.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 14, 2014, 01:38:16 PM
Running a Klink Rommie isn't bad at all. I ran it through and it was enjoyable enough. Basically it makes not a huge lot of difference to your Rom story, but once its over you will be getting the Klingon responses (which can get pretty wearysome if "eaagh! Warrior! Me not Gay!" isn't your thing) to various shared missions and you will be on the klingon side for PVP and for starbases, and you can only join Klingon Guilds and such.

The main problem is that the Klingon side is pretty underpopulated, so it can be hard to get good groups for specific shared content. There;s no shortage of peeps in the fed side


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Scold on December 14, 2014, 11:29:38 PM
The main problem is that the Klingon side is pretty underpopulated, so it can be hard to get good groups for specific shared content.

Speaking of which -- assuming I'm just a story/content tourist and don't really care about getting A+ gear upgrades or PvP or anything, how hard-gated is the content? Am I constantly going to be stuck on Mission XYZ until I can get a player who's really grinded out the good gear to come help me? When grouping is necessary, will I be welcome in groups if I'm undergeared but demonstrably not a moron who pulls before the tank, stands in the fire, etc.?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on December 15, 2014, 07:20:45 AM
Content isn't gated. You hit the level and you can run the instance/ mission.

I dunno about the high-end life, but none of the LFG missions ever made me feel like I wasn't able to contribute or was useless.  There's also very little "stand in the fire" mechanics in STO, probably because it's so damn hard to maneuver.

I understand there IS a high-end raiding component, but I never perceived it to be a big chunk of players like it is with WoW and other traditional games.  You'd get the occasional guy who'd come in to a mission and be able to WTFPWN all the spawns himself. You'd marvel at how the fuck that happens, but that was about it. Nobody yelled at me for being a noob who couldn't solo tank half the spawns.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on December 15, 2014, 10:22:06 AM
Grouping was always fine. In some of them Klingons can group it with Feds. I always found if a guy was up front said that they were new everyone was always helpful in telling then what to do, even if it was "just follow me and don't go in front of me, and you will be fine. And don't forget to keep pressing the anti-borg adaption thingie."

People tend to appreciate it when people said they were new in my experience.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on December 15, 2014, 10:49:40 AM
Yeah, pretty much the only way to fuck up an STF is to not participate at all.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on January 07, 2015, 07:04:14 AM
Yeah, pretty much the only way to fuck up an STF is to not participate at all.

Not true at all. It is quite easy to fuck up the Bonus Objectives if you don't know what you're doing and people will sometimes quit an STF if that happens.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on January 07, 2015, 10:03:59 PM
Yeah, you can fuck up the bonus objectives. But anyone that rage quits on that needs to be punched in the fucking throat.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: apocrypha on January 08, 2015, 02:54:18 AM
Yeah, you can fuck up the bonus objectives. But anyone that rage quits on that needs to be punched in the fucking throat.

So, about 50% of MMO players?  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on January 11, 2015, 10:12:01 AM
80%


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: 01101010 on March 06, 2015, 01:28:04 PM
http://io9.com/star-trek-onlines-memorial-for-leonard-nimoy-is-here-an-1689675963

Seems the good folks over at Cryptic are paying tribute to Nimoy by erecting Spock statues on Vulcan and New Romulus. Nice touch there.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on March 08, 2015, 12:07:47 PM
http://io9.com/star-trek-onlines-memorial-for-leonard-nimoy-is-here-an-1689675963

Seems the good folks over at Cryptic are paying tribute to Nimoy by erecting Spock statues on Vulcan and New Romulus. Nice touch there.

The only good thing to come out of losing Nimoy is it finally caused Cryptic to launch a crackdown on a fleet called Starfleet Dental which is basically a little group of sociopaths that specialize in griefing others, especially RPers. They were griefing players who showed up on Vulcan to mourn Nimoy and Cryptic started handing out bans left and right.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: apocrypha on March 08, 2015, 02:11:44 PM
Isn't Starfleet Dental the goons?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Father mike on March 08, 2015, 02:31:29 PM
Isn't Starfleet Dental the goons?

yep


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on March 08, 2015, 04:09:38 PM
Isn't Starfleet Dental the goons?

Yeah. Cryptic wouldn't do anything about them for a long time but them trolling the Nimoy memorial finally crossed a line and rumor is their recruiting thread on the forums was closed and tons of bans and/or suspensions were handed out.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Kitsune on March 09, 2015, 11:28:48 PM
Um, no?  Nobody in SFD has received any kind of ban whatsoever, any information to that effect is just plain wrong.  The only activity that I've received word of is that Zombie Spock and Ghost Spock got renamed.  But fear not, the goons are being driven out by how bad the game's become and the generally downward direction of recent devolvings into a Korean grindfest cash shop game.  You know the writing's really on the wall for a game when it gets so bad that the goons bail on it.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on March 12, 2015, 07:53:39 AM
I was trolling some goons about SF Dental a couple of days ago on twitch. they seem... a little sensitive about the topic.  :grin:

I guess you can be goons and be sociopaths as pong as you don't invite massive blowback...  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on March 15, 2015, 06:49:55 PM
Um, no?  Nobody in SFD has received any kind of ban whatsoever, any information to that effect is just plain wrong.  The only activity that I've received word of is that Zombie Spock and Ghost Spock got renamed.  But fear not, the goons are being driven out by how bad the game's become and the generally downward direction of recent devolvings into a Korean grindfest cash shop game.  You know the writing's really on the wall for a game when it gets so bad that the goons bail on it.

The game's fine. If anything Dental is just getting bored as it is harder to grief RPers now and like the little sociopaths they are, once they run out of victims they move on.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Kitsune on March 15, 2015, 07:17:31 PM
The game's fine. If anything Dental is just getting bored as it is harder to grief RPers now and like the little sociopaths they are, once they run out of victims they move on.

It's honestly not.  At the Spock memorial, people were completely losing their shit over other people:

  • Not being in uniform.
  • Not standing in a proper row with the other people.
  • Talking

When the bar's set that low, it's pretty much impossible not to be able to grief others.  You don't even have to be a Dental for that.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on March 15, 2015, 07:44:16 PM
Wow, its almost like someone well loved had actually died and people were emotionally invested, or something. Fucking pussies.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on March 15, 2015, 08:56:58 PM
Fuck 'em. It's causing shit at a funeral, virtual world or not.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on March 15, 2015, 10:56:16 PM
The game's fine. If anything Dental is just getting bored as it is harder to grief RPers now and like the little sociopaths they are, once they run out of victims they move on.

It's honestly not.  At the Spock memorial, people were completely losing their shit over other people:

  • Not being in uniform.
  • Not standing in a proper row with the other people.
  • Talking

When the bar's set that low, it's pretty much impossible not to be able to grief others.  You don't even have to be a Dental for that.

Basically Dental showed up and acting like Westboro Baptist church. Most people who had ever encountered Dental weren't shocked at all. Sociopaths don't change and are incapable of understanding emotions after all.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Kitsune on March 16, 2015, 01:39:29 AM
That wasn't Dental, that was everybody.  Anyone performing the high crimes of not being in uniform or not being perfectly lined up with the other people at the statue was subject to a torrent of tears.  Dentals got the tear torrent just from being anywhere in the vicinity regardless of anything they were doing, they didn't even have to lift a finger.  Plenty of them did anyways, because Dental, but the STO thread on the something awful forums has plenty of chatlogs from the event of random hysterical players threatening their lives, calling the FBI, etc.  Which also pretty much played right into the Dentals' hands; they didn't get banned, but the people who messaged them death threats or bizarre racist rants got reported for violating the game's rules and did get punished.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on March 16, 2015, 02:22:37 AM
Yes, I'm sure Dental were like totally innocent and maligned by the greater pubby community who were raging stupidly at everyone, and through superior intellect suffered no consequences whatsoever.

Your troll-fu is weak and lacking focus.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on March 16, 2015, 03:26:03 AM
By the way, I just logged in for the first time in Ages and it seems like the whole interfact has changed. Is there a website somewhere where I can sample the list of changes in the molasses speed my brain can absorb these days? TIA


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Kitsune on March 16, 2015, 09:51:55 AM
Yes, I'm sure Dental were like totally innocent and maligned by the greater pubby community who were raging stupidly at everyone, and through superior intellect suffered no consequences whatsoever.

Your troll-fu is weak and lacking focus.

You misunderstand, I never once said that Dentals weren't trolling people, I said they were, just that the ones who weren't trolling were also getting the same panicked reactions just by being in the area.

they didn't even have to lift a finger.  Plenty of them did anyways, because Dental,

And there are screenshots of them running around as Zombie Spock.  It's not a defensible position to say that they weren't out trolling when they obviously were.  However, they weren't trolling in excess of the game's rules, whereas the raging players were, and got banned for it, which is deeply ironic.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on March 16, 2015, 02:38:10 PM
Says Dental because they have access to the ban lists which make them look so superiour.. Ant the pubbies were screaming a everyone ya know so "dental didn't have to lift a finger"

And yet when I was trolling some goons about it last weej there was nothing from them about this story of "other people getting banned but not Dental" instead they were sayingf that they Named their station after Nimoy and Denying everything. When I said they were dental there was silence.

So ya. Bull. Shit.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on March 16, 2015, 03:26:00 PM
Yes, I'm sure Dental were like totally innocent and maligned by the greater pubby community who were raging stupidly at everyone, and through superior intellect suffered no consequences whatsoever.

Your troll-fu is weak and lacking focus.

You misunderstand, I never once said that Dentals weren't trolling people, I said they were, just that the ones who weren't trolling were also getting the same panicked reactions just by being in the area.


This is kind of like saying a terrorist gets panicked reactions just for standing around while his buddies murder people. Everyone knows who and what Dental is and seeing the tag immediately makes them suspect simply for being who they are. I have exactly zero sympathy.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Triforcer on March 16, 2015, 08:11:53 PM
There is absolutely no excuse for Rainz casting fire field on Lord British, it was supposed to be a celebration- what a fucking scumbag.

Wait, I just asked someone at work if this was 1998, and they said no.  In that case, holding a public memorial/event in an MMO  and not expecting psychopaths is- rather quaint. I will save my tears on this one.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on March 16, 2015, 08:18:19 PM
Far less quaint than the notion that the internet is the wild west and "anything goes" any longer.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on March 16, 2015, 08:21:49 PM
There is absolutely no excuse for Rainz casting fire field on Lord British, it was supposed to be a celebration- what a fucking scumbag.

Wait, I just asked someone at work if this was 1998, and they said no.  In that case, holding a public memorial/event in an MMO  and not expecting psychopaths is- rather quaint. I will save my tears on this one.

Not a living soul was surprised Dental showed up and acting like sociopaths. These people all probably think Hannibal Lecter is just misunderstood. I'm just finding it amusing that Kitsune is trying to portray Dental as the poor innocents who were abused by the nazis even when they were just being innocent.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Paelos on March 17, 2015, 07:24:51 AM
Do in game funerals ever go well?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: 01101010 on March 17, 2015, 10:10:20 AM
Do in game funerals ever go well?

I have never heard one going well unless it is in an instance that is invite only.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: IainC on March 17, 2015, 10:14:40 AM
So apparently Perfect World are having a bad day today (http://massivelyop.net/2015/03/17/perfect-world-entertainment-hit-with-potentially-massive-layoffs/).



Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Kitsune on March 17, 2015, 12:28:09 PM
So apparently Perfect World are having a bad day today (http://massivelyop.net/2015/03/17/perfect-world-entertainment-hit-with-potentially-massive-layoffs/).

The game's fine. If anything Dental is just getting bored as it is harder to grief RPers now and like the little sociopaths they are, once they run out of victims they move on.

 :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Mandella on March 17, 2015, 01:20:20 PM
"Captain Smirk" was their community manager?

Now that is just sad...


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on March 19, 2015, 08:57:32 AM
So apparently Perfect World are having a bad day today (http://massivelyop.net/2015/03/17/perfect-world-entertainment-hit-with-potentially-massive-layoffs/).

The game's fine. If anything Dental is just getting bored as it is harder to grief RPers now and like the little sociopaths they are, once they run out of victims they move on.

 :why_so_serious:

Yes, PWE had layoffs across their entire company. The layoffs weren't from the STO dev team alone. But hey, more power to you in your crusade to prove that Dental is right about the game. This is like EA having layoffs across their entire company but you somehow reading that as TOR is in trouble.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on March 22, 2015, 10:01:12 AM
I'm not surprised PWE is having layoffs. Aside from STO and possibly Neverwinter, every one of their games is generic anime cockfantasy crap.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on March 27, 2015, 11:03:07 AM
I'm not surprised PWE is having layoffs. Aside from STO and possibly Neverwinter, every one of their games is generic anime cockfantasy crap.

STO and Neverwinter were doing well last time I heard. There's been some gnashing of teeth over how STO is going since tier 6 ships were introduced but I haven't noticed a major drop in players or anything and let's face it, people on MMO forums are always going to whine and complain about something.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on April 13, 2015, 09:21:30 AM
Last week, STO introduced Delta Recruits (http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/9129363-delta-recruits-march-into-battle%21). Basically a form of self-twinking and accelerated experience. They've even got an in-game logic to it which makes sense as you're visiting yourself in the past and helping yourself advance quicker in an effort to get everyone up to speed to fight the Iconians.

The practical side of it is that you blow through levels well before you blow through content. I started a Rom and a Fed as Deltas and they're at level 40 before I've even gotten out of the basic storyline.

And did I mention The Iconians are coming? (http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/9129383-iconian-resistance-reputation) They've done a really good job of tying up some of those loose ends in episodes of TNG, DS9 and Voyager that never went anywhere and always pissed me off.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Furiously on April 21, 2015, 02:57:31 PM
And issue 10 is out. They made each sector of space a big zone. I wonder what it will do to the race around the galaxy thing like.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Furiously on April 22, 2015, 02:58:41 AM
I think 1/4 of Tom Paris's lines were recorded over the telephone, which actually might make him sound better. Cause he phoned in the delivery either way.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on April 25, 2015, 06:51:37 PM
One of the reasons I'm not enthused about loading this up is that I could not stand Voyager. I'd have to have the audio off while playing the missions.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Furiously on October 23, 2015, 11:06:59 PM
The just finished up the whole Iconian storyline and the next even drops in five days. Supposed to be Mirror Universe stuff. Also they are giving away freebies every day this week. Was 12 inventory slots per character yesterday, is a gamma doff set today. Also log in and grab a free back to the future hoverboard.

Also, someone with higher roles than me log in and promote Rina or Kimani so they can change tasks in the starbase. I accidentally left with one of my higher characters and screwed myself.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Surlyboi on October 25, 2015, 11:08:31 AM
Promoted.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Furiously on November 05, 2015, 05:58:47 PM
It's a DIL weekend if you want to get 100% and 50% bonus dil. Also they are running an event for a rifle and 50K dil.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on November 05, 2015, 06:06:19 PM
Also having a $100 off lifetime membership sale. That brings it down to the $200 range again.

I'm so lost as to what's going on. I haven't played since the Dyson Sphere was new. Now I'm doing Delta Quadrant stuff and there's 4 whole factions I know nothing about.

All I DO know is the Vaardwaar are kicking my little Romulan ass all over the place and I have nothing to stop them. Evidently Purple Tier XII gear and 45% resist to their damage type isn't enough.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Father mike on April 12, 2016, 10:55:19 AM
A new patch brings a revamp to the skill system.  No idea how it plays out, or how to min/max it.

Also, giveaways for logging in this week.  Today's is 12 inventory slots.  Log in, got to the ZEN store, go to the promotions tab, claim your 12 slots!


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on April 12, 2016, 01:53:44 PM
I'm tempted but the revamp of combat has really killed my desire to login. Same problem all MMOs run in to, they serve the hardcore forum warriors so those who had a casual enjoyment are fucked.

This game even had difficulty levels built-in and they went and screwed with base-level combat. No, I don't want to L2p. I want to login, play on "noob level/ no 'wounds" and kill shit. Forcing me to research a build, grind credits/ dilithium, hunt-down gear then optimize skills, BOFFs etc so I can run noob missions? Nah, I'll just avoid your game and your cash shop instead.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on April 16, 2016, 06:12:58 AM
How many revamps to the skill system has there been at this point?

Anyway yeah. When I played I generally played at the Elite level just as a personal challenge but I never EVER insulted anyone for playing on easy. In fact I encouraged people to do so when I was chatting in groups if that's what they enjoyed.

And yeah the "Elite" forum fuckery in that game was fucking awful even back then. The Klingons in particular were among the biggest crybabies of all time. I remember having an argument with one guy who insisted that all the Klingon ships were crap and the reason the Klingons won all PVP matches was due to skill. He then made the bald statement that "If all the cash shop Klingon ships were not fucking terrible people would buy more, Look at the Orion Marauder!" Unfortunately I owned the Marauder, and I compared it to the Fed heavy cruiser. It was totally inferior apart from Hull, shields, power, crew, manoeuvring and speed. Oh and the Marauder carried Fighters. So, aside from every single stat & hanger capacity and , the marauder was totally inferior to a Fed Cruiser.

Unfortunately, forum peeveepee works because the shitlords are willing to invest time into hammering away at forums, and it fucks up every game. I honestly dont know how combat was revamped, but I remember it being nearly perfect before this, exactly the right feel.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Riggswolfe on April 16, 2016, 01:05:22 PM
The only real combat revamp I've noticed was in STFs and they've tweaked it a few times trying to get the right balance. I've noticed very little change in day to day missions.

The skill revamp is basically just a massive simplifying of skills. They're basically in "trees" now and you just click your way down the tree. I felt it was a lot better explained than the old system was as well with tooltips that said "this will do X for you." that were pretty clear.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Furiously on April 16, 2016, 09:09:42 PM
The failure conditions to the elite STF's and the huge exp nerf past the original content and AA's made it turn from the most alt friendly game into a play one character only game.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Hawkbit on May 12, 2016, 12:49:20 PM
I just got an email this is coming to consoles in the fall.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Furiously on May 16, 2016, 11:57:58 PM
They also have a new pack coming out set in the original series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE0PARmn6x0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE0PARmn6x0)


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on May 18, 2016, 04:00:53 AM
Time Travel. It always improves a story.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on May 18, 2016, 05:33:57 AM
Funnily enough in Star Trek it often did. One of the rare exceptions.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Ginaz on May 18, 2016, 09:11:13 PM
Time Travel. It always improves a story.  :oh_i_see:

One of the reasons why Star Wars will always be better than Star Trek.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Falconeer on May 19, 2016, 12:42:26 AM
I'll never understand why people ever compare them. They came out in different eras, told very different stories and characters, use very different kind of equipment and vehicles/vessels and are don't even take place in the same space. They are/were both fantastic, and both with plenty of highs and lows. Easier to compare Star Wars to Lord of the Rings than Star Trek anyway.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on May 19, 2016, 05:18:43 AM
I'll never understand why people ever compare them.

It's like you've never talked to a geek before. Obsessive personalities with a severe insecurity complex? Of course they're going to be compared and judged.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on May 19, 2016, 11:35:00 AM
Come on guys. One has a TV holiday special, about 2 and a half good movies and about 6 terrible ones, with several so so Animated series, a mix of good and terrible computer games, and lots and lots of terrible fiction which lead to the EU. And the other is several so so TV series, with 2 and a half good movies and 8 terrible ones, with one so so Animated series, a mix of good and terrible computer games, and lots and lots of terrible fiction. They are so different.

Yes I'm counting the classic Ewok movies that people generally look uncomfortable about and shuffle away from.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Father mike on January 25, 2017, 12:41:18 PM
ARISE !!!

The anniversary event is going on right now.  Already missed a few days, but if you log in today, you can get two ship slots and 5 drydock slots for free.  Just go to the "Store" window, then the "Promotions" tab, and you should find it fairly easily.

Despite what the text says, during the promotion this can be redeemed once PER CHARACTER, not once per account.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Reg on January 25, 2017, 01:25:53 PM
Hey thanks for letting me know. I go back to the game about once a year so it's nice not to miss out on stuff like this.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on January 25, 2017, 03:15:18 PM
Ya thanks. I'll definatly dig out my old account and drop in for that


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Torinak on January 25, 2017, 04:00:00 PM
Thanks! Free stuff for another game I don't really play anymore.

Claiming the free stuff was almost like a minigame--see if I can click through fast enough before pop-up quests and notifications overwhelm everything.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Tyrnan on January 26, 2017, 08:01:52 AM
Check your email spam filters as well.  They sent out a code a couple of days ago for a free T6 Intel Sovereign Cruiser (account-wide unlock) and 10 spec points (single use).  As per usual though with Cryptic and these things it seems that not everyone got it.

Also new season starts after today's patch with (I think) another free ship to grind for.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Merusk on January 26, 2017, 11:17:23 AM
I just can't get anywhere in this game anymore. I was getting my ass massively kicked by normal mission ships last time I gave it a go. Trying to find build advice was useless because players had dried-up and there was nothing legible on Reddit and the official forums were just the usual "L2P/ Raid2gitgud" assholes.

I really liked having ships and dinking around, but spending real money to get equipment that makes me viable is a no-go.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on January 28, 2017, 01:04:11 PM
I quit the game when it started getting Korean Grindtastic. I really liked the basic gameplay, but there came a point when I looked at the months of grinding for points in 10or so grinding trees they were adding on and I just waved the white flag.


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Father mike on February 17, 2017, 11:02:31 AM
Another month, another promotion!

Get two duty officers (holo-Leeta and Borg Neil) and a gold quality Admitalty ship-card in the Zen store for free.

I think all of there have been offered before.  I know the ship-card and Borg D.O. have been.  But, hey, free is free, and if you missed them before ...


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Strazos on March 08, 2017, 02:11:22 PM
I'm still pissed my account got borked when the game changed ownership.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Father mike on January 17, 2018, 02:12:14 PM
Arise!!!

It's the 8th anniversary of launch.  Log in today to get 10,000 refined Dilithium

It can be claimed of the Promotions tab of the zen store -- once per account.

There's also an event starting in a few days where you can grind for a T6 Bajoran Escort.

Is Bat Country still a Fleet?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Sir T on January 17, 2018, 02:29:50 PM
Is it still punch your face grindy?


Title: Re: Star Trek Online : A New and Unbroken Thread!
Post by: Father mike on January 17, 2018, 07:49:51 PM
No idea.  It's one of those "Do event activities for tokens" grinds.  The ship costs 1000, but you get 400 for running the new story arc.  I'm going to assume it works like the Christmas and Summer events they do every year.  So about 60% of that level of face-punchy, I guess?