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Stormwaltz
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Reply #175 on: September 16, 2010, 07:57:44 AM

I think it makes the game too easy, frankly. LotTO spawns were - in most places - fairly sparse, and the general aggro range was a reasonable 10m or so.

I think as an acid test, I should try to make the Rivendell run.

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Reply #176 on: September 16, 2010, 08:01:32 AM

Too easy? 

1) Go back to Moria. 

2) Travel between 2 or 3 hubs without a mount

3) Count the number of mobs that would aggro on the way.

It's absurd. 

I think a smart compromise would have been to adjust aggro range to con of the mob. (i.e. grey = no aggro, green = short aggro, blue = larger aggro, etc)  though I think this is already pretty much the way it is.


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Reply #177 on: September 16, 2010, 08:11:26 AM

If anyone is going to send a message to Turbine about anything, please tell them that a "hotfix" does not mean you take the servers down.  I mean, by comparison what would they call a coldfix?

On that subject, patch notes:

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Welcome to The Lord of The Rings Online: Volume III, Book 2, September 16 Hotfix Notes!

General
We have made adjustments to the server queuing system.
We have resolved an issue that was not allowing players to log into the game if they had logged out within certain encounters prior to the release of Volume III, Book 2. Affected players should now be able to log in normally.

Crafting
Learned recipes now appear under the correct tier.

Instances
The Great Barrow - The Maze is once again available.
Minas Gil can now be entered normally.

Edit:

So, more info on wait times (which are hilariously off although that may be an artifact of them just coming up):



Also, if you get something like this and your launcher crashes, it worked fine for me when I started it up again awesome, for real:

« Last Edit: September 16, 2010, 08:22:51 AM by caladein »

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Reply #178 on: September 16, 2010, 08:24:04 AM

If anyone is going to send a message to Turbine about anything, please tell them that a "hotfix" does not mean you take the servers down.

AFAIK, "hotfix" means "we didn't wait until the next scheduled patch to push the fix to the servers." It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with whether the servers stay up or not.

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Reply #179 on: September 16, 2010, 08:44:22 AM

I predict 1000 Maze groups.

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Reply #180 on: September 16, 2010, 09:22:45 AM

Not if the servers can't stay up Ohhhhh, I see..

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Reply #181 on: September 16, 2010, 10:42:46 AM

They've adjusted the aggro range? Holy shit, maybe this means I can play again without my head blowing up from unvented rage.

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Reply #182 on: September 16, 2010, 11:01:36 AM

There were several areas with very fast spawn, coupled with the large aggro range and baf meant unending fights.

Which was great for grinding some deed mobs with a captain, but a pita most of the time. I like the new spawn range, getting jumped by every rabid weasel pig in Lothlorien was annoying at best.
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Reply #183 on: September 16, 2010, 11:09:19 AM

If anyone is going to send a message to Turbine about anything, please tell them that a "hotfix" does not mean you take the servers down.

AFAIK, "hotfix" means "we didn't wait until the next scheduled patch to push the fix to the servers." It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with whether the servers stay up or not.

They need to just say "barely tested fix", then. Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #184 on: September 16, 2010, 11:09:24 AM

I will completely agree there were weird spots where mobs would respawn waaaaaayyyy too fast.
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Reply #185 on: September 16, 2010, 11:10:23 AM

Maybe they only had to restart the services and not reboot the machine, like a Microsoft 'hotfix'.  awesome, for real

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Reply #186 on: September 16, 2010, 11:11:54 AM

There were several areas with very fast spawn, coupled with the large aggro range and baf meant unending fights.

I think I am thinking of Annuminas here.  That or some other place with an incredibly fast respawn where my wife and I were looking for a class item.

Maybe they only had to restart the services and not reboot the machine, like a Microsoft 'hotfix'.  awesome, for real

Oh, I see.  Hot for them and cold for us?  I can dig it.

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Reply #187 on: September 16, 2010, 01:39:56 PM

Got 2150 TP today when I checked.  +20 wardrobe slots!

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Reply #188 on: September 17, 2010, 05:58:04 PM

So Turbine has permanently dropped the prices on several items.  Interesting. I wonder what happened; is it a big success or is no one paying $3.50 for Justice +1?
My own theory is that the store has actually hurt Turbine's rep with some of the outrageous prices.  That and their server status.  Can't get on right now.


"The LOTRO Store team has just implemented new lower prices on many items in the following categories. Prices have been lowered by 17-35%! Enjoy the permanent price breaks!
• Stats & Buffs >> Buffs, Equipment/Repair
• Stats & Buffs >> Enhancements >> Movement
• Travel >> Travel Maps & Skills
• Healing & Recovery >> Morale, Power, Dread"

I hope they get this shit worked out, really been enjoying the game with my friends.
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Reply #189 on: September 17, 2010, 05:59:44 PM

Niiiice.   awesome, for real

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Reply #190 on: September 17, 2010, 06:21:05 PM

Haldlyn? and Vress

Finally figured it out. Those two are brother and sister, very young, but the whole family plays together.  Fathers name is, Melekbryt I think?

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Reply #191 on: September 17, 2010, 08:21:50 PM

Damn eula breakers. 18 to play!
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Reply #192 on: September 18, 2010, 04:59:45 AM

Don't say "damn". This is a family website.

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Reply #193 on: September 18, 2010, 11:40:31 AM

The behavior's a lot more understandable if it was a kid.
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Reply #194 on: September 18, 2010, 02:46:16 PM

They must be pretty young in that case. Have you heard what 11 and 12 year-olds typically sound like? Nevermind "and up".

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Reply #195 on: September 18, 2010, 07:03:15 PM

I know what my friends sounded like when I was 12.

About the price drops, I saw it coming.  It's not like the "items" they are "selling" have any real "value" outside of the context of the game.  As usual, the price of a thing is whatever people are willing to pay for it.

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Reply #196 on: September 18, 2010, 07:40:22 PM

I think you hit the nail on the head.  They weren't getting the income they expected so they dropped the prices.

Servers were down primetime Friday night and now Saturday night.  I'm a fan of Turbine, but my patience is wearing thin.

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Reply #197 on: September 19, 2010, 03:44:19 AM

The prices on the double kill for slayer deeds seems to be right in the sweet spot. I've used two 15 minute ones already.

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Reply #198 on: September 19, 2010, 01:02:20 PM

Edit.  Just got on finally.
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Reply #199 on: September 20, 2010, 11:36:22 AM

It's been a while, so about time I gave this another try.

Seeing as the f2p is still delayed in Europe I started a new burglar on the US servers on Brandywine.  Plus this way I don't have to buy any quest packs right off the bat and can subscribe later if I feel like it.

Questing in the Shire reminds me why I keep coming back to the game, there's just something about the whole leisurely approach to questing and the general atmosphere in the zone that keeps me coming back.  It's also something I find a tad missing later on in the North Downs etc.

I find I get distracted a lot, which is by no means a bad thing.  In my first session yesterday I thought I'd use the temporary free horse to unlock some of the stables in the area, but ended up getting horribly side tracked and attempting to find the ship captain for the pirate event.  At level 7 I thought it would be fairly straight forward seeing as it was marked as a level 10 quest, but a near death experience with a level 31 salamander made me think that swimming up the middle of the river out of the (huge) aggro range was probably the best approach.

Lessons learned from this include the fact that swimming up the Brandywine takes rather a long time, and also that level 7 hobbits don't have much business being in Evendim.  Anyway it was a lot of fun and I did manage not to die in the end which was a bonus  awesome, for real

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Reply #200 on: September 20, 2010, 11:48:46 AM

Life as a young hobbit is a stark contrast to the rest of the world, as it should be. I always give them points for this.

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Reply #201 on: September 20, 2010, 12:25:00 PM

I have to confess that I've been enjoying an otherwise annoying mechanic. 

I find myself working VERY hard to avoid death.  I hate the dread penalty and the long runs through aggro-infested Moria halls to return to finish a quest.  I enjoy this.  I enjoy feeling like death matters.  I enjoy that dying is something that I actively work to avoid.  In WoW, I used death as a free teleport.  Not so much in this game. 

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Reply #202 on: September 20, 2010, 12:38:04 PM

So is anyone else stuck on I:13:6 in the epic? The 'go into a mine full of dwarves and yeti things to get a history book' step of the Forochel chapter. I think I have finally hit something I can't solo.

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Reply #203 on: September 20, 2010, 12:55:03 PM

I couldn't duo 1.13.6 before the Vol.1 changes, so it still may indeed be tough.


So I've noticed that if you don't "own" SoM as a premium player etc. that your deeds won't increment.  Kill deeds at least.  Anyone else see this?
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Reply #204 on: September 20, 2010, 01:05:42 PM

I was able to deal with one of the 4 pulls but it took all my 30 minute cooldowns to do, and I couldn't handle the next one. Assuming I was even in the right part of the mine.  why so serious?

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Reply #205 on: September 20, 2010, 01:07:09 PM

I have to confess that I've been enjoying an otherwise annoying mechanic. 

I find myself working VERY hard to avoid death.  I hate the dread penalty and the long runs through aggro-infested Moria halls to return to finish a quest.  I enjoy this.  I enjoy feeling like death matters.  I enjoy that dying is something that I actively work to avoid.  In WoW, I used death as a free teleport.  Not so much in this game. 

Thanks Turbine!

There are craft able items and others in game that can negate the dread from death. Not to spoil your fun or anything.

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Reply #206 on: September 20, 2010, 02:00:59 PM

There are craft able items and others in game that can negate the dread from death. Not to spoil your fun or anything.

I would love about 100 of these!

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Reply #207 on: September 20, 2010, 02:04:14 PM

There are craft able items and others in game that can negate the dread from death. Not to spoil your fun or anything.

I would love about 100 of these!

10 or 15 minute timer - but otherwise will help offset death penalty.  Remind me tonight and I can craft you some candles.

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Reply #208 on: September 20, 2010, 02:23:08 PM

Who makes these candles?

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Reply #209 on: September 20, 2010, 03:22:42 PM

Who makes these candles?

Yes, do tell. Please tell me tailors so I can feel good about having that as one of my trade skills.  awesome, for real

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