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[Yegolev]

Turns out that performance went back to normal when Turbine disabled the Store.

Not that I can play right now.

I read some stuff today that seemed to indicate I would possibly get my TP on my billing anniversary.  We will see.  I don't even know what day that is.

[Azazel]

I've slowly been losing interest in lotro over the past few months. Largely due to the grind and also because of some overenthusiastic friends. I'd hoped that the F2P changes would revitalise my interest, but their implementation has unfortunately done quite the opposite.
 

[Yegolev]

I'm trying to focus on the positive changes, which are numerous (depending on who you ask).  Sometimes it's hard, though.  I'll give it some time to settle down.

[Azazel]

Yeah, I'm sure there are some. My friends and I started off playing it as a replacement for Friday Night Titan Quest (which was also fun but started to drag after awhile) with the original philosophy of playing it only when we're all on, a la old-school PNP roleplaying as we used to do, but the EQ/WoW mentality took over on them (one in particular) and they started plowing ahead, and bitching that my wife and I weren't playing enough "Don't play Bad Company 2 after work or 360 on the weekend - just do a few skirmishes instead!! It's totally the same!!" and "We should have a mega session for a whole day and just grind out a bunch of levels to get to cap ASAP!!!" which just made me want to play it all the more, especially since this was during the time we were getting on occasionally to do the Trollshaws book quest of perplexity and onto Moria, which doesn't appeal to me, aesthetically or design-wise. So we hit the big stall at 55.

My sob story aside, I expected the F2P to be made of awesome all around and hoped it would counterbalance my growing detatchment from the game. It unfortunately hasn't managed to do that (as my friend charged on and hit 65 yesterday and was going on about joining a guild and raidgrinding out a full set of radiance gear in a couple of days and so forth...) 

[Yegolev]

I think your friend is doing it wrong.  Does he know about EVE?

[Kitsune]

I'm having a good time so far.  I started with a hunter who puts out a pretty competent amount of pain, but didn't really feel very exciting.

Then I fired up the Moria expansion and made a Warden.

Holy fuck.

He kills people by screaming at them until they die.

He kills bears by screaming at them until they die.

He kills undead by screaming at them until they die.

He is clearly Chuck Norris in disguise.  And if anyone disagrees, he's stabbing them in the face with a spear, god damn.  Don't make him scream at you.

And unlike the hunter who looks like a homeless guy in his random scruffy gear, wardens were apparently chosen to look PIMP in very swank matching blue armor from their starter quests.  I added a pimp hat, dyed it blue to match the armor, and kept all of it as a cosmetic set.  Stuff I've found since was much better statwise, but all looked like trash.

[Tannhauser]

Four of us had fun in Lone Lands last night.  We went on a killing spree thru Mithrenost mowing down evil dwarves and orcs.  Two Guardians, a RK and a Hunter (me).  Lots of fun, lots of xp.  I kept pulling more and more mobs to see how many we could handle. 

It's so nice to play this game with newbies.  They don't have the three years of LOTRO baggage so it's great to hear "Hey look, Weathertop!"

Since I'm at max level with my main, I don't worry about my alts, I just roam around and do whatever I feel like that night, be it questing, crafting, skirmishing, etc.  The game is  just relaxing and fun now.

[Cheddar]

Woohoo I have TP!!!   

[Nebu]

Does anyone know of a good site for a 3D map of Moria?

That area is messing with my mind to the point that I have been avoiding some areas and skirmishing more.  While I love the expanse and art, the maze-like nature of it is driving me batty.  There are so many times that I'm close to where I need to be for a quest by distance, but in reality I need to completely circle the zone just to be 5 more feet to the west.  It's making me stabby.

[rattran]

So, what do we think of having a "/joinchannel F13" chat? This way the non-Riders can join in, and I won't get bitched out for using horrible curse words like 'hell' by the tight-ass non-f13 fuckers in the kin.
Not like any of the non-f13 people ever groups with us. EVER.

[Nebu]

So, what do we think of having a "/joinchannel F13" chat? This way the non-Riders can join in, and I won't get bitched out for using horrible curse words like 'hell' by the tight-ass non-f13 fuckers in the kin.
Not like any of the non-f13 people ever groups with us. EVER.

How about reforming a new kin?  I about fell out of my chair laughing last night when someone complained about the use of "hell" in kin chat.  Can't they use a word filter?

[Mrbloodworth]

So, what do we think of having a "/joinchannel F13" chat? This way the non-Riders can join in, and I won't get bitched out for using horrible curse words like 'hell' by the tight-ass non-f13 fuckers in the kin.
Not like any of the non-f13 people ever groups with us. EVER.

Do what?  

I know we have a priest that plays, but hes never complained before, nice guy. I have reservations about leaving kin. To many good people in it for me.


EDIT: Now that I think about it, we do have a few children playing (we have a few family units that play) and i half suspect who ever it was , was a young-in.

[Nebu]

It was after 12am CST and the person could type relatively quickly.  I think they are just the thin-skinned variety.

[Mrbloodworth]

Name?

[rattran]

Haldlyn? and Vress I think. But it's not like it's the first time I've been bitched at for language. And what good people? Rein and Marwen only group together, Rudi chats some, everyone else is pretty well silent.

[Nebu]

Name?

They were very nice.  I just thought it was a bit odd.  Seemed more like someone complaining as a power struggle than because it really offended them.  Made me wonder if some of the non-f13 people are starting to resent our presence now that the server is more lively.  

[Mrbloodworth]

Haldlyn? and Vress I think. But it's not like it's the first time I've been bitched at for language. And what good people? Rein and Marwen only group together, Rudi chats some, everyone else is pretty well silent.

Well, I have three years with those people, thats all I am saying.

Haldlyn? and Vress I think.

I have no idea who that is.

[caladein]

You joined room 'F13' (UserChat3). Number of members: 1.

Make it happen folks.

[Yegolev]

How about reforming a new kin?

F13 guilds never work out.  It won't be around in 2011.

[Kitsune]

I was a little surprised that it didn't go down thus:

So who the hell are you?
Someone who doesn't appreciate cursing.
Oh, well you're in the wrong place then, ass. /gkick

Dude just got invited into the kin and was giving the officer who invited him crap about language in the first minute he was there?  It's not like rattran was writing haiku about shitting dicknipples in a public channel.  I don't even consider hell to be inappropriate language in the first place, as mild a curse as it is.

If I weren't sparkly-new, I'd've gone out of my way to mess with the guy, but I didn't want to make any waves in a group where I don't know a lot of the people.

[Mrbloodworth]

Waite, they were a random invite?

[Yegolev]

I'd like to limit random invites due to thievery.  Also jerks that don't like bad language.

[Mrbloodworth]

I'd like to limit random invites due to thievery.  Also jerks that don't like bad language.

As long as they are not promoted they can't use the chests.

I'm not getting a full picture here. However if this person is a random, boot them. I made F13 people officers for a reason, however Marween does have last rights in all matters. If its a original kiners alt, thats a different story. I find it hard to believe though, anyone in that kin gives a crap about the word "hell", or if they did would give anyone grief about it outside of BS.

[rattran]

They were apparently old-time kin members, Malayn? asked me to invite them. Claimed they used to group with Marween, Grimst and Issa.

Pseudo-randoms I would have merely said 'fuck off' and kicked, but it's not my kin, so I merely didn't promote them. And I've been given shit about innocuous language several times in the past.

[Mrbloodworth]

I don't know what to say then, its uncommon. I have never known anyone to give a rats ass about the shit I say in kinchat, lol. If I know one of the kids are on ill behave though.
I just don't know, seems the chat for "adult speak" lol, is the best idea. Perhaps I can tell them to calm down. Because this all seems silly to me. Especially if anyone is felling uncomfortable.

I still don't recall the names.

You joined room 'F13' (UserChat3). Number of members: 1.

Make it happen folks.

Seems best, alternatively, ill ask a friend if we can use his temspeak.

[Cheddar]

They were apparently old-time kin members, Malayn? asked me to invite them. Claimed they used to group with Marween, Grimst and Issa.

Pseudo-randoms I would have merely said 'fuck off' and kicked, but it's not my kin, so I merely didn't promote them. And I've been given shit about innocuous language several times in the past.

If anyone (including Rein) give you shit let me know.  They know better.

I have broken out the pimp hand in the past and will in the future.  NO ONE SCOLDS RATTY BUT ME.

[Mrbloodworth]

RE: Making the aggro range shorter...... Um, wow? It used to be dangerous out there in the world, now boars let you pet them. Did they go a bit overboard there? Then again, I was rather surprised with my relative ease in juking mobs in Wow, perhaps they have moved to some "standard".

[Nebu]

I like the shorter aggro range, particularly in Moria.  Having to run a million miles through a maze gets worse when you have to a) move at a snail's pace using stealth or b) fight your way through. 

[Mrbloodworth]

I know, perhaps I'm conditioned though, I can accept that.

[Zetor]

Yeah, the huge aggro radius was occasionally fun (trying to dodge elites... soloing to kill the signature bear in the middle of a zone filled with elites in misty mountains at level 48 was a pretty exhilirating experience), often annoying (getting knocked off my horse by trash mobs and wasting a lot of time fighting them off), and sometimes made me stabby (moria, even though I did the quests with a static group... also some of the 40-50 zones were notorious for constant adds).

I think them lowering the aggro radius is a very good thing overall... maybe I'm too much of a WOWtard? 

[Azazel]

They should introduce EQ1-style xp loss for a death penalty and naked corpse runs. That'll make the world feel dangerous.  

[Yegolev]

If anyone is going to send a message to Turbine about anything, please tell them that a "hotfix" does not mean you take the servers down.  I mean, by comparison what would they call a coldfix?

About aggro range, I'm more used to EQ and other games from Ye Olde Days so I never thought the range was big in LotRO.  Apparently WoW is easy-peasy, I honestly don't remember since I was on a PvP server and the mobs were the least of my problems.  Player aggro range is HUGE.

[Modern Angel]

I don't mind a reduction but I feel like they went too far in the other direction. It's pretty absurd to be ten feet from a mob, have it look right at you and wander away.

[Mrbloodworth]

I don't mind a reduction but I feel like they went too far in the other direction. It's pretty absurd to be ten feet from a mob, have it look right at you and wander away.

That's what I was trying to express with my monkey like mastery of the typed word. Its not a game breaker, it was just surprising.

[caladein]

I don't notice it too much on my Burg when I'm actually fighting mobs since the linking range still seems about the same as before (especially in Skirmishes).

That said, I really love being able to gather materials in areas around my level without having HiPS constantly on cooldown.