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[Ingmar]

Sounds scholar-y to me.

[Tarami]

Isn't he referring to Edhelharn tokens? That's jewellers.

[Yegolev]

It's not scholar, I have a Supreme one of those.  Also Edelharn tokens are for Hope+.

[Cheddar]

Who makes these candles?

Jeweller.  There is a robust market for them, actuallly.  Basically they add up to +5 hope; this is not only useful to offset death but also when facing undead or areas with dread by default.

[Mrbloodworth]

Barter item:


Crafted:


Glorious Edhelharn Token

The scented candles were pre-order and some times downtime gifts, there is a horn too but i think it gives radiance and was a pre-order item.. I thought there was more +hope stuff. With the removal of radiance (not yet) I expect all that stuff to be hope bonuses. Radiance was also changed just before moria:

Radiance is an armour stat that acts like a buff to offset the Gloom in some raid encounters. Before the Siege of Mirkwood expansion, Radiance also offset Dread  (from defeat, fell stones and Shadows of Angmar era raids) - no more. If you read a post or guide that shows a conversion of Radiance to Hope, it's probably out of date.

Bottom line: unless you raid in Moria or Mirkwood, radiance is a useless stat to you.

With that, I may be slightly confused right now as to whats left to counter dread. Anyway.

[Ingmar]

I have a horn from a preorder thing that gives +1 hope for 15 minutes, on a 15 minute cooldown. Does not stack with Edhelarn tokens, and I usually already had it up when I died so it doesn't help much for offsetting after-death dread usually (unless I forgot to refresh it at some point).

[Mrbloodworth]

Yeah, I think that got changed with Mirkwood. I think it was +10 radiance before, but now radiance doesn't give hope, and only matters to raiders.

[caladein]

Yeah, they changed a few things like that.  The horn and the rare-quality Bounder's cap are the two that immediately spring to mind.

[Yegolev]

Gameplay update.
Fatwing has ~2300 marks, less than 300 more to get that Rune of Winged Dominance.  Also Fatwing is now lv39, having gained eight levels just from skirmish grinding, and I realized I need to upgrade the armor from the lv31 crafted (stupid Big Fright killed me once, lucky bastard), so I had her take a break and harvest 150 dwarven iron ore... turns out I need just a bit more rich iron so I can master Expert, so back to Lone Lands I guess so I can also try to work on Enmity of the Wargs II and get that Bree-town teleport.

This new surge in population means finding shit to kill can be a challenge.  And yet, I don't find ANY pristine leather braces on the AH.  I'll try again later, maybe I made a typo.

[rattran]

Pristine leather has been selling for ungodly amounts, last few stacks I sold were 1.5gold per 50. So many people seem to be grinding crafting right now, mats and components are scarce

[Yegolev]

It did occur to me to turn around and sell raw materials.  I also spent some time farming to get dye ingredients and Hobbitton was filled with likeminded players.  Got some violet and turquoise materials, though I actually expect I'll use the first batch or two instead of selling it.

[Soln]

does anyone who is Premium know about deeds in Eriador?

It seems like you can increase deeds, but only those that you already started before turning Premium.  Is that correct?

For example, I finished the first half of a kill deed in Angmar tonight, but I then couldn't start the next half to actually get the reward.  I am assuming it's because I don't own this content anymore etc.

[Soukyan]

does anyone who is Premium know about deeds in Eriador?

It seems like you can increase deeds, but only those that you already started before turning Premium.  Is that correct?

For example, I finished the first half of a kill deed in Angmar tonight, but I then couldn't start the next half to actually get the reward.  I am assuming it's because I don't own this content anymore etc.

My account is VIP because I had a 3 month sub when it went F2P, but not 100% sure on the deeds thing. I see on their matrix that Eriador "Quest Packs" are only supposed to be available to VIP accounts, so it looks like you may be right. You can keep your existing stuff, but won't get more unless you subscribe.

[Azazel]

Friends came over last night so we played for a bit. It was okay. We ground out a kill deed of those bat-people in moria, which was okay since we've got a shitload of rested and they were orange cons to my wife and I. Wasn't I impressed when instead of 10k bonus xp for finishing the deed we got 5 Turbine points instead. And then another 10 (or 15?) for the second half of it.
A massive 20 cent value instead of 20k xp. 

Oh, I got an ad in my email today, suggesting that I buy the shit from their store to "Enhance your Experience! - With less grind!" Those guys sure know how to advertise the strong points of their game. 


...It's like even when I try to be positive about the game they turn around and kick myself and themselves in the balls again.

[Tannhauser]

Dude, every post you make is negative.  Isn't it time to put the game away for a while?

[Rishathra]

Dude, every post you make is negative.  Isn't it time to put the game away for a while?

This.  Even before you started playing, you were consistently negative about this game.  Then when you said you had started playing it, I was  .  It seems pretty obvious that this game is not doing it for you, yet you keep playing, and keep complaining about it.  I'm not saying you need to love the game unquestioningly and refrain from ALL negativity, but fuck, you seem to hate every. single. aspect. of LotRO.  Why put yourself through this?

[Soukyan]

Friends came over last night so we played for a bit. It was okay. We ground out a kill deed of those bat-people in moria, which was okay since we've got a shitload of rested and they were orange cons to my wife and I. Wasn't I impressed when instead of 10k bonus xp for finishing the deed we got 5 Turbine points instead. And then another 10 (or 15?) for the second half of it.
A massive 20 cent value instead of 20k xp. 

Oh, I got an ad in my email today, suggesting that I buy the shit from their store to "Enhance your Experience! - With less grind!" Those guys sure know how to advertise the strong points of their game. 


...It's like even when I try to be positive about the game they turn around and kick myself and themselves in the balls again.

Dude, you're harshing my mellow.

[Azazel]

I did decide to stop playing for awhile, and essentially have done so. I have some friends who pretty much only want to play it, so when they come over I'll play it with them as a social thing. As I said, I thought it was okay, but the 10k xp->5 TP thing was a total WTF? moment. Including for my friends who are exceedingly positive about the game.

Also, "before I started playing"? When? In 2009? I was hoping that the F2P thing would fix the issues with the game and improve it, but they've decided to monetise the sucky things instead of remove them. Which is a damn shame. Up until then I was telling people to grab the game left and right, while occasionally bitching about the shitty parts as many others here have done.

But while, yes, you are correct that I should take a break, I would hope that you do find an ad from them to please spend$$$ for "less grind" to be a bit tasteless/tacky/transparent.


edit-
I should add, probably here, that LOTRO does get a whole bunch of things right. My recent negativity is bourne from disappointment - Or to put it another way: "I got my hopes up" about which changes they would make, and how they'd implement F2P. Also while it's probably silly to expec them not to fuck with the item prices from beta to live, seeing things like the goat double from $5 (which I'd have paid instantly) to $10 (which I simply won't pay) didn't help. As a paying customer/VIP as opposed to a free player, I'm disappointed in many of the changes. If I weren't paying for it, and just starting fresh I'd probably think it was great all over.

On the positive side, the environments look beautiful, the /follow range is generous, the appearance tab(s), clothing dyes and now the Wardrobe is a fantastic idea, well implemented. And I /facepalm everytime Blizzard make some nonsensical bullshit argument about why it just wouldn't work in their game. These are things that were in and haven't changed.

[Nebu]

Need some input:

I'm trying to keep a running selection of things to do at the level cap.  So far, here is my prioritized list.

1) Finish all the Book quests.  I enjoy these for content, story, and flow. 

2) Grind deeds in the traits I wish to use.

3) Get a set of good legendary items.  I have decent third age but need to research 2nd age.  Do they drop?

4) Get Kindred with the cooking guild.  I did a crafting quest in Myrkwood last night (collecting spider silk) and got some book thing as a quest reward (I chose the book because it seemed different and more unique than the other rewards, but I have no idea what it's for.  Is it a barter item?)

5) Skirmish

6) Dabble in monster play

7) Get to kindred with Myrkwood and Garrison Miners. 

Anything else you'd suggest?

[rattran]

1&2 are good plans.

3) 2nd ages do not drop, but must be crafted by someone kindred in the corresponding crafting guild, using a Symbol of Celebrimbor that drops in Dol Guldur (or perhaps SG too) they can also be purchased for 1030 skirmish marks and 6 Superior 3rd Marks, that drop from the fullo fellowship level 65 instances and skirms. Symbols sell for between 14G and 25G on Brandywine, but it's been slowly dropping as the drop more frequently since the last patch. 2nd Ages sell for 5-150G each, depending on class and how well they come out.

4) The Compendium Vol 2 is for making crafted relics for that 4th relic slot on LIs, there should be 3 legendary recipes at your craft guild vendor at Kindred. One uses that Vol2 for a +390 to 2 different crits/defenses relic.

For me, Skirmishes are fun to a degree, Monster Play and PvMP suck pretty hard, and other than the Mirkwood Horse, Malledhrim Kindred doesn't offer much. Nor do the Miners iirc. I'd suggest heading to Elrond and doing the Vol3 books 1&2, that takes you to Enedwaith where you can start earning Grey Company and Algraig rep, get some upgraded gear, and have a new area to explore. There's a set of 4 daily quests there against leet Giants and Dragonlings that are fun, and it's a nicely laid out area.

[Soln]

once at cap you can run instances and raid regularly as well.  Raiding still sort of sucks in LotRO, but the eventual removal of radiance and the addition of the Instance panel has made things brighter.  The instances are great content and should be tried.  You also unlock deeds for each.

Edit: and like Rattran said, try some unused areas.  Goblin Town, for instance, is quite large and fun to go through (at least once). Similarly, I've done only maybe 1/4 of the end game Angmar content.  Besides the Rift there's lots to see and do there.

[Mrbloodworth]

Dressing Room has been added to the LOTRO Store!!

    Yesterday's LOTRO update has added the long-awaited Dressing Room to the LOTRO Store! We're very excited to have this feature added and hope you enjoy trying on the many different cosmetics in the LOTRO Store’s Dressing Room!

    For those of you who are new to LOTRO, this will allow you to preview cosmetic items on your character prior to purchase. To access the Dressing Room, simply go to the LOTRO Store, click through the Cosmetics section until you see an item that you'd like to preview, then click on the item to bring up the detailed description. You will then see a "Try it on!" button that you can click which will automatically open the Dressing Room with your character wearing the chosen item.

    Have fun!

 

[Ingmar]

I'm a little stuck on the "totally soloable" epic right now so I started doing a little bit of the regular questing content in Moria. They really did a nice job with the look and feel in there, but man the big map is pretty useless.

[Furiously]

Yea - Moria's map is horrid.

[Nebu]

Moria is a very interesting area, I just wish the map were more useful.  Those cases where you're 5 feet from a quest objective and you have to circumnavigate the zone to get there can be a bit maddening.

[Furiously]

There were a few times when I just suicided in Moria to get to the closer town to be on the right side of a wall vs a 10 minute walk.

[Zetor]

Have I mentioned that me+my guildies used the well as a main source of transportation in Moria? 

(there is a well at the crossroads; if you jump into it, you end up at the waterworks. You also die and take durability damage... it's STILL worthwhile to use, imo!)

[HaemishM]

Moria is a very interesting area, I just wish the map were more useful.  Those cases where you're 5 feet from a quest objective and you have to circumnavigate the zone to get there can be a bit maddening.

Yeah, I'm finding this out. I spent all of lunch playing without ever getting to the one goddamn quest objective I wanted to do, died more than once simply because I couldn't figure out how to get where the fuck I needed to get to. Goddamn place is a nightmare, and is really starting to edge into "too frustrating" territory.

[caladein]

Silvertime Lodes and Foundations of Stone are the two worst zones in this regard by a mile.  Every other zone in Moria is either relatively straight-forward or has a slight learning curve as to moving around it.

[Nebu]

Yeah, I'm finding this out. I spent all of lunch playing without ever getting to the one goddamn quest objective I wanted to do, died more than once simply because I couldn't figure out how to get where the fuck I needed to get to. Goddamn place is a nightmare, and is really starting to edge into "too frustrating" territory.

The sigh of relief that you feel upon leaving the mines at 58 more than makes up for it.  Lothlorian and Myrkwood go VERY smoothly.

[Azazel]

I have to say, that despite the overeager friends and their too-long play sessions and too-much enthusiasm turning me off the game a bit, Moria was also a big factor. I really quite enjoyed the last zone out the front, and the quests to open up Moria, but the place itself after a play session of "wow I'm in Moria" quickly turned me off. A lot. Like Trollshaws and that stage of the epic "there and back again, and then back there and back here again with Elrond and Glorfindel" did.

Good to hear that it's nicer once you get past it.

[Nebu]

Looks like I may not be on for a while...

I tried to zone into the crafting hall in the Twenty First Hall last night and had a crash to desktop.  Now, every time I try to log Nebu on I crash the game.  I'm submitting a ticket, but this isn't good. 

[Hutch]

Looks like I may not be on for a while...

I tried to zone into the crafting hall in the Twenty First Hall last night and had a crash to desktop.  Now, every time I try to log Nebu on I crash the game.  I'm submitting a ticket, but this isn't good. 

Have you tried logging in one of your other characters?
Assuming you have any.
And then logging back in to your stuck toon?

I have no idea if this will work. I am only thinking of it because that's how I got through a similar situation in WoW one time.

[Nebu]

I'll definitely give it a shot. 

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Awesome. 

[Mrbloodworth]

There has been some iffy exit placements as of late after zoneing.