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I think I've just done what must have been the second one of those - he sends you to a Nun when you're in Mexico?
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Ingmar
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I think I've just done what must have been the second one of those - he sends you to a Nun when you're in Mexico?
Yeah that's the series. Dude with a top hat, the last one will come after you're done in Mexico, back in the Great Plains type area.
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Lucas
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Folks, any news regarding a possible PC conversion?
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NiX
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Folks, any news regarding a possible PC conversion?
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Lucas
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" He's so impatient, it's like watching a teenager fuck a glorious older woman." - Ironwood on J.J. Abrams
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Sky
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GTA 3 PS2 10/22/2001 PC 5/20/2002
GTA:VC PS2 5/12/2003 PC 10/29/2003
Manhunt PS2 11/18/2003 PC 4/20/2004
GTA:SA PS2 10/25/2004 PC 6/7/2005
GTA4 PS3/360 4/29/2008 PC 12/2/2008
Bully PS2 10/17/2006 Bully:Scholarship Ed 360 3/7/2008 PC 10/24/2008
Red Dead Redemption PS3/360 5/18/2010
So, barring a Bully situation; should be out for xmas 2011. Usually a 5-8mo turnaround, even if they announce the console version as 'exclusive'. Might be looking at a Q1 2012 if they hit snags and it goes to 8 months.
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Lucas
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Ok, I see. Thanks for the info!
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I think he forgot to carry a 1 somewhere.
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Azazel
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Ride 5mins to get to mission start NPC.
Or you could just insta-travel there from the campfire. It took me a while before I realized that if I had a waypoint set I could insta-travel there from anywhere. I figured this out on the weekend. Yes, the weekend just past. And yeah, I know I'm a year late. But the ending was A lot of that is "out of character" for RockStar, but it was R* San Diego who did RDR. R* North are the ones who pump out the more juevinile GTA stuff. Like Bondi are responsible for Noir, so there's clearly some real differentiation between studios in their output.
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UnSub
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I also finished this recently.
Fun game, with my objections to the narrative probably being very similar to everyone else's (e.g. we don't really spend enough time with the family for there to be much connection there for me) plus I saw Marston as an unreliable narrator about his own past. Plus the railroaded ending. Still, it had a better storyline than most games.
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Muffled
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You wanted to spend MORE time shooting crows off grain silos and driving back and forth to town?
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Nope, the easiest way would have been to open the game with a few of the "shoot crows of the silo" beginner quests. After some of that, the Feds show up to tell John to do their work and a standoff forms between Marston and the Feds. At which point the player witnesses the whole family taken as John is knocked unconscious or stands down. In this fashion the duress is more palpable, as the player now has met the family and has a connection other than anecdote.
That would have allowed for more Bonnie interaction besides the tutorial quests, which I felt was needed.
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UnSub
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You wanted to spend MORE time shooting crows off grain silos and driving back and forth to town? It was a discrepency between what the character said they wanted and what the player got. Probably more time talking with the wife and kid - and some explanation about why Marston was so pissed off with his 'uncle' - would have helped to have build a connection. RDR suffered from having the narrative say things that didn't connect with the player situation, like "Oh, the farm is poor and we've got no money," when the character had several thousand dollars in their pocket.
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Muffled
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Hawkbit - that's an excellent idea actually, I agree that would have been a good time to set up a better connection with Marston's family. It also would have allowed for a better narrative payoff when you got back to the farm later in the game.
UnSub - Good point. I've come to expect that sort of disconnect between plot and character advancement from R* games, though, I hardly noticed it.
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Nope, the easiest way would have been to open the game with a few of the "shoot crows of the silo" beginner quests. After some of that, the Feds show up to tell John to do their work and a standoff forms between Marston and the Feds. At which point the player witnesses the whole family taken as John is knocked unconscious or stands down. In this fashion the duress is more palpable, as the player now has met the family and has a connection other than anecdote.
That would have allowed for more Bonnie interaction besides the tutorial quests, which I felt was needed.
Eh, I don't know, that somehow seems less dramatic than what they ended up going with. It spells everything out too clearly. Personally it was enough to me, through the voice acting of John's character and the shit he's going through to get his family back, to make me feel the connection there. It wouldn't matter if his wife and kid ended up being complete shits, the point is that it's clearly important enough to Marston to get them back that he's willing to go hunt down his old friends. I don't need to feel attached to the family, I need to believe that Marston is, and I think they accomplished that.
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Tannhauser
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Good point but I liked the change up when he finds his family and starts farming. I was confused THEN it goes completely mental with Jack now running around. It was not a standard game narrative and it felt sad, strange and really fresh.
I really liked the character of John Marston. And Bonnie. Best non-couple in game history?
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Nice one.
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Sky
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This time I'm buying a fucking console.
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Why the hell did they not port this to PC, while Rockstar seems to be doing it with all their other games?
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I wonder what type of game this will be now that Rockstar San Diego no longer exists. It will also be weird without the voice of John Marston. That guy was just perfect for that role but as far as I know he retired from doing voice over work.
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Definitely one for the watch list. I'd really rather not have to buy a fucking PS4 for it though.
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KallDrexx
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Why the hell did they not port this to PC, while Rockstar seems to be doing it with all their other games?
I remember reading something way back that the RDR code was in such a mess it would not be easy to port. No idea how true that is.
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I waited for a PC version, sure it would be around the corner. Sigh.
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rattran
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I played it up until the final section, and that killed all interest I had in the game. I enjoyed it up until then, just too jarring a change.
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Mandella
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I waited for a PC version, sure it would be around the corner. Sigh.
Same boat here. "Boy, can't wait until they release the PC version!!" Apparently, I could...
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Ard
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I wonder what type of game this will be now that Rockstar San Diego no longer exists.
Yeah, this. I'd be super excited except for this. Have they announced who is actually making it?
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Ginaz
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I waited for a PC version, sure it would be around the corner. Sigh.
Same boat here. "Boy, can't wait until they release the PC version!!" Apparently, I could... I tried to play it on the PS3 (or was it XBox 360?) but I'm pretty much incapable of playing shooters or rpgs with a controller.
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IIRC the autoaim on PS3 was pretty good, and made up for my general inability to play shooters with thumbsticks. RDR was an absolutely fantastic game, well worth suffering subpar control schemes.
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Velorath
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I wonder what type of game this will be now that Rockstar San Diego no longer exists.
Yeah, this. I'd be super excited except for this. Have they announced who is actually making it? No, because they haven't announced they're making it. This comes from a website that got an e-mail from someone who claims to know an ex-Rockstar dev, and the article says that the people at the website have no way of verifying any of this. As some people have also pointed out, part of the rumor seems a little off in that Rockstar typically doesn't announce games at E3. As far as who would make this now that Rockstar San Diego is gone, supposedly they had over 800 people work on RDR. A good chunk of Rockstar had their hands in that game.
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Oh hell yes. I saw this thread necro'd and prayed this was why.
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Speaking of marketing, we're out of milk.
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