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Reply #700 on: December 03, 2015, 02:10:07 PM

I would love something that was a "scavenge this non-settlement location for me" for settlers, with an alert if they run into resistance and need my help. I keep getting bummed out by going through sites with cars, buckets, tires, etc. that I can't break down.

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Reply #701 on: December 03, 2015, 07:40:56 PM

I think a mod that makes all junk weigh nothing would be perfect.
That's a solid idea.
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Reply #702 on: December 03, 2015, 11:29:51 PM


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Reply #703 on: December 04, 2015, 07:45:46 AM

Mods should also weigh 0, or you should be able to use a mod that is stashed in the current workbench you are at rather than using something from your inventory.

I think that second part is actually a bug. It uses junk from the workbench, but it doesn't use mods from the workbench.
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Reply #704 on: December 04, 2015, 07:55:08 AM

Sure it does. I toss all my old mods in the workbench after a modding session, so I can pull out any higher level mods and replace them with the old ones from the wokbench (it changes the button name to Install and you don't get the components popup).

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Reply #705 on: December 04, 2015, 09:13:48 AM

It totally does use mods from the workbench, but don't forget that different base gun types will have different versions of the same mod. I.e. a Combat Rifle Glow Sights mod is different from an Assault Rifle Glow Sights mod, etc.

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Reply #706 on: December 04, 2015, 10:07:06 AM

My experience on the ps4 is this:

If I forget to put the mod back in my inventory, when I go to install the .308 receiver on my combat rifle it will pop up the screen showing which pieces of junk will be broken down to make the part.

If I take the mod from the workstation and put it in my inventory and try the installation again it will be installed without the window popping up.

I have done this about half a dozen times - I change my overseer's guardian to .308 when I have > 500 .308 rounds. When it's below 200 I change it back to .45.
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Reply #707 on: December 04, 2015, 11:12:37 AM

Ugh, that's a PITA. Hopefully that's a PS4 bug that'll get patched.

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Reply #708 on: December 04, 2015, 01:10:40 PM

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Reply #709 on: December 04, 2015, 07:02:09 PM

Ouch.  Works fine on the PC.

There you go.
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Reply #710 on: December 05, 2015, 11:04:16 PM

On the other hand, now I hoover up ALL THE THINGS...
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Reply #711 on: December 05, 2015, 11:08:13 PM

*loots everything*
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Reply #712 on: December 06, 2015, 05:42:19 AM

raider with pipe pistol shoots pilot from 1000 meters vertibird crashes heading directly for you.
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Reply #713 on: December 06, 2015, 07:10:23 AM

Finally got around to finishing the BoS quest line.  Good stuff.

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Reply #714 on: December 06, 2015, 08:20:28 AM

Actually you can just run with Minuteman and have only one faction destroyed.

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Reply #715 on: December 07, 2015, 12:01:58 PM

So I just realized that when interacting with an inventory (chest, workbench, etc) you can mouse over either side and use a/d to change category shown, in addition to the different sort options.

That makes things so much less painful and it seems undocumented on the pc version...
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Reply #716 on: December 07, 2015, 03:43:49 PM

It was the same way in Skyrim, IIRC.
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Reply #717 on: December 07, 2015, 04:30:03 PM

It was the same way in Skyrim, IIRC.
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Reply #718 on: December 07, 2015, 04:43:54 PM

So I just realized that when interacting with an inventory (chest, workbench, etc) you can mouse over either side and use a/d to change category shown, in addition to the different sort options.

That makes things so much less painful and it seems undocumented on the pc version...

Comically, if you're using a gamepad, it's exposed in the UI.  That sorta shit is why I switched over to a pad, despite the fact that I'd rather play it with a mouse.

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Reply #719 on: December 07, 2015, 07:40:20 PM

Eh, anything I can do to avoid shooters and controllers (excepting lock on GTA style stuff).
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Reply #720 on: December 07, 2015, 10:07:42 PM

I haven't had a lot of issues with the UI (outside of the settlement builder..) personally, using a keyboard/mouse. It's a pretty good UI for a Bethesda game but I know that is a very low bar.

I've hit a couple bugs/graphical glitches, though. The silent/static Diamond City Radio one, my character's textures becoming.. molten after being torched by the Forged (had to restart the game to fix), Cait's body.. well, vanishing; she is now the Invisible (Wo)man (happened twice, actually. First time a restart fixed it, second time a restart didn't fix it), a failed settler (one you can persuade to join a settlement.. didn't), and a couple other really minor glitches (mainly physics related, such as Piper's coat sometimes flapping and becoming massive screen tears). On the whole, less buggy than I expected, but I've only just sprung the P.I. with a decent amount of side explorations.

Game doesn't feel all that post-apoc to me, though. Too crammed with stuff and a lot of things still standing. Had the same issue with Fallout 3, though.
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Reply #721 on: December 08, 2015, 08:25:26 PM

A few hours into this and pretty unimpressed. (PC)  It's just feels, I guess average in almost every way.  I think I'd be enjoying Skyrim or Fallout 3 more and crashing much less.

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Reply #722 on: December 11, 2015, 11:17:16 AM

The UI thing that annoys me most is the relationship between tab, escape and enter in crafting.

One thing that annoys me in the faction dialog trees is that my character has very, very limited chances to express anger or irritation with some aspect of the faction's philosophy or actions. If I'm talking to the Brotherhood, the Railroad or the Institute, the most I can do in general is say something like, "Why bother doing that?" or "Gosh, I don't know". I'd *like* to be able to say things more like, "If you're seriously into freeing synths, where do you get off treating them like 'things' whose memory can be erased? Non-synths just have to live with whatever they've seen and done, after all" and so on. You could do more of that in FO3 and in FO Vegas, I feel. I appreciate that they set it up so that none of the factions are exactly sympathetic, except for the Minutemen, and that's because the Minutemen are just kind of blandy-bland.

I really wish they'd do a major DLC that let you become a Raider commander and build Raider settlements--basically to be an Immortan Joe or Lord Humongous type. They went to the effort of giving the Raiders a teeny-bit more plot though it's only visible if you read all the computer terminals in major Raider sites, so take it another step. In FO3 if you wanted to be a destructive dickbag you could at least blow up Megaton and live at Tenpenny; in Vegas you can go Legion or House or for yourself (with the dubious help of Yes Man). So far at least (I'm at the Battle of Bunker Hill quest) there doesn't feel like there's an equivalent sort of choice structure.
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Reply #723 on: December 11, 2015, 01:27:32 PM

The UI thing that annoys me most is the relationship between tab, escape and enter in crafting.

One thing that annoys me in the faction dialog trees is that my character has very, very limited chances to express anger or irritation with some aspect of the faction's philosophy or actions. If I'm talking to the Brotherhood, the Railroad or the Institute, the most I can do in general is say something like, "Why bother doing that?" or "Gosh, I don't know". I'd *like* to be able to say things more like, "If you're seriously into freeing synths, where do you get off treating them like 'things' whose memory can be erased? Non-synths just have to live with whatever they've seen and done, after all" and so on. You could do more of that in FO3 and in FO Vegas, I feel. I appreciate that they set it up so that none of the factions are exactly sympathetic, except for the Minutemen, and that's because the Minutemen are just kind of blandy-bland.

I really wish they'd do a major DLC that let you become a Raider commander and build Raider settlements--basically to be an Immortan Joe or Lord Humongous type. They went to the effort of giving the Raiders a teeny-bit more plot though it's only visible if you read all the computer terminals in major Raider sites, so take it another step. In FO3 if you wanted to be a destructive dickbag you could at least blow up Megaton and live at Tenpenny; in Vegas you can go Legion or House or for yourself (with the dubious help of Yes Man). So far at least (I'm at the Battle of Bunker Hill quest) there doesn't feel like there's an equivalent sort of choice structure.
To be honest there wasn't much of a plot with raiders in FO:NV, unless you count the Khans as raiders. Now in FO3 you had the Paradise Hills slavers who qualified as raiders, they had quests and a plot, but nothing much to do with the main plot (granted very little had much to do with the main plot).

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Reply #724 on: December 11, 2015, 01:53:22 PM


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Reply #725 on: December 11, 2015, 02:59:12 PM

The UI thing that annoys me most is the relationship between tab, escape and enter in crafting.

One thing that annoys me in the faction dialog trees is that my character has very, very limited chances to express anger or irritation with some aspect of the faction's philosophy or actions. If I'm talking to the Brotherhood, the Railroad or the Institute, the most I can do in general is say something like, "Why bother doing that?" or "Gosh, I don't know". I'd *like* to be able to say things more like, "If you're seriously into freeing synths, where do you get off treating them like 'things' whose memory can be erased? Non-synths just have to live with whatever they've seen and done, after all" and so on. You could do more of that in FO3 and in FO Vegas, I feel. I appreciate that they set it up so that none of the factions are exactly sympathetic, except for the Minutemen, and that's because the Minutemen are just kind of blandy-bland.

I really wish they'd do a major DLC that let you become a Raider commander and build Raider settlements--basically to be an Immortan Joe or Lord Humongous type. They went to the effort of giving the Raiders a teeny-bit more plot though it's only visible if you read all the computer terminals in major Raider sites, so take it another step. In FO3 if you wanted to be a destructive dickbag you could at least blow up Megaton and live at Tenpenny; in Vegas you can go Legion or House or for yourself (with the dubious help of Yes Man). So far at least (I'm at the Battle of Bunker Hill quest) there doesn't feel like there's an equivalent sort of choice structure.
To be honest there wasn't much of a plot with raiders in FO:NV, unless you count the Khans as raiders. Now in FO3 you had the Paradise Hills slavers who qualified as raiders, they had quests and a plot, but nothing much to do with the main plot (granted very little had much to do with the main plot).
Caesar's Legion were very much raiders.

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Reply #726 on: December 11, 2015, 03:06:54 PM

The UI thing that annoys me most is the relationship between tab, escape and enter in crafting.

One thing that annoys me in the faction dialog trees is that my character has very, very limited chances to express anger or irritation with some aspect of the faction's philosophy or actions. If I'm talking to the Brotherhood, the Railroad or the Institute, the most I can do in general is say something like, "Why bother doing that?" or "Gosh, I don't know". I'd *like* to be able to say things more like, "If you're seriously into freeing synths, where do you get off treating them like 'things' whose memory can be erased? Non-synths just have to live with whatever they've seen and done, after all" and so on. You could do more of that in FO3 and in FO Vegas, I feel. I appreciate that they set it up so that none of the factions are exactly sympathetic, except for the Minutemen, and that's because the Minutemen are just kind of blandy-bland.

I really wish they'd do a major DLC that let you become a Raider commander and build Raider settlements--basically to be an Immortan Joe or Lord Humongous type. They went to the effort of giving the Raiders a teeny-bit more plot though it's only visible if you read all the computer terminals in major Raider sites, so take it another step. In FO3 if you wanted to be a destructive dickbag you could at least blow up Megaton and live at Tenpenny; in Vegas you can go Legion or House or for yourself (with the dubious help of Yes Man). So far at least (I'm at the Battle of Bunker Hill quest) there doesn't feel like there's an equivalent sort of choice structure.
To be honest there wasn't much of a plot with raiders in FO:NV, unless you count the Khans as raiders. Now in FO3 you had the Paradise Hills slavers who qualified as raiders, they had quests and a plot, but nothing much to do with the main plot (granted very little had much to do with the main plot).
Caesar's Legion were very much raiders.
Nah, that's more of the Khans. Caesar's Legion outlawed drugs and killed raiders. One of the traders at their camp said how awesome it was to be a trader in Arizona. They didn't need guards, they could travel the whole of Arizona without harassment.

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Reply #727 on: December 11, 2015, 03:10:03 PM

This game is weird.

When I sit down to decide what to play I absolutely do not want to play this.

But if I don't think about it and just load it up I end up playing for like 2 hours. 
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Reply #728 on: December 11, 2015, 06:11:52 PM

I find that my fun is inversely related to how much I pay attention to my quest log.  If i just wander around and explore things I run into I have a great time.
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Reply #729 on: December 12, 2015, 05:44:29 PM

Get more spawn mod and just pretend it's a shooter game.

Fight a bunch of ghouls
Fight a bunch of raiders

Why shooter game? Well, it's the most improved part of the game. And try not to go back to settlement to trade. Scrounge up whatever ammo and weapon you can from the field.
It's way more interesting than the whole 'fast travel here, kill x, fast travel there, turn in to y, now do z' routine that they love to populate their game with. The narrative is a disappointment.
Heck, I finished Nick Valentine's quest and laughed at his companion perk reward: 'Uh..when hacking you get one more try. And the lock out timer is lessened.'
Wow that was worth the 2 hours spent running around ten corners of the map picking up holotapes.

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Reply #730 on: December 13, 2015, 06:27:28 AM

Doesn't everybody just Esc out when they only have 1 try left, and try again? I'm really surprised they haven't fixed that but it's been a thing since FO3.

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Reply #731 on: December 13, 2015, 06:34:45 AM

Doesn't everybody just Esc out when they only have 1 try left, and try again? I'm really surprised they haven't fixed that but it's been a thing since FO3.

Doesn't everyone just use easy hacking (and easy lockipicking) mods to skip the stupid mini-games anyway?  why so serious?
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Reply #732 on: December 14, 2015, 12:25:21 AM

I am fine with lockpicking, it's so easy no matter what that I like to do it just for the sounds as they tickle me the right way. Hacking on the other hand is super annoying. I should download that mod.

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Reply #733 on: December 14, 2015, 05:36:42 AM

My least favorite thing about hacking is when you think you're about to remove a dud and your tries get reset before you've used any.

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Reply #734 on: December 14, 2015, 05:48:12 AM

I always scan for dud removal after using two tries to see if I can work it out;  I love the hacking mini game though, because it reminds me of that cool 'guess the colour' game I had when I was a kid.

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