NFL 2011

[Segoris]

Those fake injuries are why I fixed Draegan's quote a few posts back, what shit.

Haha what the shit, how is that not a penalty?

Supposedly there is no penalty for faking an injury because the refs are not to determine if players are or are not injured, which is understandable as they aren't medical professionals and this is a high impact sport.

What really sucks, besides those players being bitches, is that as the rules are written there will not even be any fines unless they admit to faking

[01101010]

So American football and swinging around to World football antics. Great. I think, however, that the whole "be a man / suck it up" mentality will push this shit away fairly quickly. I have to believe faking an injury in the NFL is taboo with all the manly stories of players playing hurt.

Unless of course this is whiplash from all the tiptoeing around head injuries and not being able to come back into a game even though they "feel fine." I can see that as well.

[Nebu]

Easy solution: You go down on the field, you sit out 15 mins of game time at a minimum. 

[Paelos]

Easy solution: You go down on the field, you sit out 15 mins of game time at a minimum. 

Yep. If you're injured enough to go down, you're out for a period of time. I would say the series.

Also, you should apply this thinking to defenses only.

[Segoris]

So American football and swinging around to World football antics. Great. I think, however, that the whole "be a man / suck it up" mentality will push this shit away fairly quickly. I have to believe faking an injury in the NFL is taboo with all the manly stories of players playing hurt.

Unless of course this is whiplash from all the tiptoeing around head injuries and not being able to come back into a game even though they "feel fine." I can see that as well.

It is definitely taboo and will be laughed at and looked down upon by fans and other players, current, retired, and future. The part that makes this even tougher to penalize is that both the Giants players said they had "cramps" which is something that can't be denied and something that can't be proven. Though, an interesting story has popped up about an ex-Giant player who played for their current defensive coordinator, stating that Perry Fewell (Giant's Defensive Coordinator)teaches his players to do this and Fewell's only response to the accusations is to say that he can't say he does and can't say he doesn't teach this to players

As for the suck it up mentality to push it away, it just so happened to be on the same weekend that Romo brought Dallas to a win while he had a punctured lung and broken rib after being down by 10 points. So yeah, that is a story strong enough to help keep this story out of the spotlight more than if Romo hadn't played and won in his condition

Easy solution: You go down on the field, you sit out 15 mins of game time at a minimum. 

Yep. If you're injured enough to go down, you're out for a period of time. I would say the series.

Also, you should apply this thinking to defenses only.

What would be interesting, and what I'd love to see, is if any player who is injured has to sit out at minimum until the ball changes possession or have some sort of minimum time frame like 3-5 minutes. It was reported earlier that the Competition Committee already turned down the idea of automatically charging a time out for players who are injured at any point in the game (not just in the last two minutes of either half) so that is out.

Though, Paelos, why do you think a rule change like this should only apply to defenses? Offenses could easily abuse this as well, such as to get an offensive lineman a breather.

[Paelos]

Defenses are the ones dropping because they are trying to slow down hurry up offenses. Offenses can't abuse this because they would only use it at the end of games, and there are already time out rules in place to deal with that (run offs).

[Segoris]

IIRC, that's only within the last two minutes of a half though. I think I'd like to see that part of the rule lifted so it applies to any point in the half or during the last 5-7minutes

[Paelos]

Dear Giants,

Most NFL teams, when they go up 14-0 in the first quarter, tend to not just be content with that and actually try to get more points. You might want to look into that.

signed,
People that felt good picking you an hour ago.

[01101010]

Dear Giants,

Most NFL teams, when they go up 14-0 in the first quarter, tend to not just be content with that and actually try to get more points. You might want to look into that.

signed,
People that felt good picking you an hour ago.

Prevent defenses win championships!! 

[Azuredream]

The Bills and Lions are both 3-0. How is this possible?

edit: Also, I feel bad for anyone who paid money to see the Cincinnati/SF game.

[Fordel]

The Bills game was pretty intense too!

[Tannhauser]

Lions OT shocker!  The last time they won in the Metrodome Bruce Willis had a full head of hair.

Oh and a big FU to Sterling Sharpe who jumped off the Lions bandwagon at halftime.  

Grats to Bills as well.

[01101010]

Go Browns...

[Tannhauser]

I think the Browns have a future with McCoy.  Heck, they are 2-1, maybe the future is here.

The Falcons/Bucs game is bruising.  These teams don't like each other.

[Azuredream]

I don't know, we're 2-1 but our wins are over Miami who look awful this year and Indy minus Peyton Manning. I'm still dreading the 5-game stretch at the end of the year where they stuffed all 4 of our games against Baltimore and Pittsburgh into that little time frame.

[JWIV]

People always forget that the Bills-Pats matchups are for whatever reason always interesting.  Even last year when the Bills had this completely god awful record, the Bills Pats game was a lot closer than you'd think it should have been.  Congrats to the Bills though for winning the close one today. 

[K9]

Can someone explain what that penalty was for on the punt return?

[caladein]

During the Bears/Packers game?

@MikePereira: On Knox punt return, #21 held the gunner and he grabs and pulls him from behind early in the kick, you can only see it in the live shot. #Week3

[K9]

Ok then; was a bit of confusion here.

[Nevermore]

People always forget that the Bills-Pats matchups are for whatever reason always interesting.  Even last year when the Bills had this completely god awful record, the Bills Pats game was a lot closer than you'd think it should have been.  Congrats to the Bills though for winning the close one today. 

As interesting as losing 15 straight before today can be, I suppose.  Only consolations to the Dolphins sucking ass this year are: it's a matter of when, not if Sporano will be fired now; the Bucs are starting to play better; and at least the Patriots also lost.

[Fordel]

Do I want to know how the Dolphins lost by 1?

[Paelos]

Do I want to know how the Dolphins lost by 1?

No, you really don't.

[Cyrrex]

The Bills' offense is actually really good.  I think adding Fred Jackson to the mix has really given them a jolt.  Interesting to see how the rest of their year plays out.

[JWIV]

God damn, did Brady forget he had any receiver other than Gronkowski?   

[Trippy]

Did you mean Wes Welker?

[Tannhauser]

That Saints/Texans game looked crazy good.

[JWIV]

Did you mean Wes Welker?

I posted in the wrong NFL thread really.  Mostly, it was me bitching that Brady+Gronkoski had well over 50 points between the two of them.  I missed seein g that Welker put up 30+ himself as well.  Disgusting.
 

[HaemishM]

What a Sunday. To the Eagles and Patriots... SUCK IT, DOUCHEBAGS. Also, Michael Vick? STFU. You don't get the 15-yard penalties for 2 reasons: 1) you are constantly running around which is caused by 2) your O Line sucks ass. You aren't getting unfairly targeted by the refs, you're getting killed out there by an O Line that can't pass block for a jackrabbit. The Giants won that game because you threw INT's at bad times and you are not going to last the season at this rate. To the Eagles owners that decided to give this convict $40 million in guaranteed money? REAP WHAT YOU FUCKING SOW.

The Giants are a really bad team, BTW. Victor Cruz scored two touchdowns, one of which he scored because 2 of your corners looked like Keystone Cops and can't tackle for shit. The other TD at least looked like Cruz muscled the ball away from you.

The Saints and Texans was a crazy crazy ass game. Neither defense seemed like they could stop the other, except when it got to the red zone. Houston should have won that game but they had what 4, 5 red zone field goals instead of TD's? Just one of those 3 pointers turned into 7 would have made a huge difference. The Saints really need to be concerned about their secondary. It got shredded and not just by Andre Johnson. Houston's defense actually looked better than last year, which isn't saying much.

Minnesota? You suck hard. Any team that has Adrian Peterson should NEVER lose a 20 point lead. EVER. What's so hard about AP right, AP left, AP up the middle for maintaining possession? And not just once but three straight games they blow second half leads? The Lions are for real. The catch Calvin Johnson made in overtime was fucking incredible. If Stafford can stay healthy, that team is going to be good for a while.

[caladein]

Minnesota? You suck hard. Any team that has Adrian Peterson should NEVER lose a 20 point lead. EVER. What's so hard about AP right, AP left, AP up the middle for maintaining possession? And not just once but three straight games they blow second half leads? The Lions are for real. The catch Calvin Johnson made in overtime was fucking incredible. If Stafford can stay healthy, that team is going to be good for a while.

From Bill Barnwell's recap:

Breaking Down the Viking Funeral

Since Brett Favre threw that interception in the 2009 NFC Championship Game, the amount of fun involved with being a Vikings fan has declined at a seemingly constant rate. Blowing leads in three consecutive games has not stopped this inexorable march toward relocating the team to Los Angeles. Take heart, Vikings fans: You've had leads in three consecutive games heading into the second half, which is a pretty good sign that there are going to be some wins on the horizon. But don't blame Donovan McNabb.

The biggest difference between the way the Vikings play during the first half of games and the second half has been the relative disappearance of their pass rush. During the first half of their three games so far this year, the Vikings have sacked opposing quarterbacks on 10.3 percent of their dropbacks. No team had a sack rate higher than 9 percent last season, so that would make the first-half Vikings pass rush just about the best unit in football.

During the second half, though, things change. The Vikings have sacked the opposing signal-caller on just three of their 75 dropbacks, which produces a miserly sack rate of 4.0 percent. The worst pass rush in football last year sacked quarterbacks 4.3 percent of the time, so that's right — the Vikings have swung from an elite pass rush to a terrible one during the two halves of their games this year. If they can maintain their pass rush through a full game, well, they'll start winning.

[Paelos]

I don't think we'll figure out who the Giants are until about week 9. Up until then, their schedule is relatively mundane, except for the Buffalo game which just became must-see TV. Starting on week 9 they have NE and SF on the road, back home for Philly, on the road to New Orleans, home for Green Bay, road in Dallas, home for Washington, road for Jets, home for Dallas.

That's a freaking brutal second half.

[HaemishM]

With that schedule, I cannot see the Giants making the playoffs. Their injury problems are already bad, and they just don't play well offensively.

[Sky]

Just got cable turned back on, DVR'd the Bills game.

Thanks, Bills. For the first time in a long time, I've been enjoying your games - actually since they got the kid in at QB, he's entertaining in a young Favre way (seems to be enjoying himself and always plays for the win). Putting in a solid running back has made them a team I actually enjoy watching.

But screw Time Warner and their inexplicable deletion of 10min of the third quarter. It jumped from halftime to 5min left in the 3rd. 

[WayAbvPar]

The Bills and the Lions are both fun to watch. High powered offenses run by young guys who haven't hit their full potential yet...great formula for fun neutral viewing. Although I wasn't exactly neutral in the Bills game, because fuck the Patriots, their fuckhead coach, and their dbag fans for eternity.

After watching all the fun in the morning games on RedZone, I then suffered through the Hawks/Cards game. If this was Euro soccer they would both be subject to relegation, and deservedly so. 4 quarters of just awful football.

[Paelos]

Who needs TDs when you got D-fence? 

[Fordel]

What was wrong with your center lineman tonight? Like 3 or 4 totally fubared snaps to your QB.