NFL 2011

[Johny Cee]

Yah, but they keep their mouths closed at least some of the time.  Eli is staring at the rafters with moon eyes while his mouth gapes open.

Seriously, it looks like they need to give him a sponge wristband so that he doesn't drool on his uniform.  He already has the football helmet for falls!

Edit:

That's not to say that other QBs don't look odd.  I'm pretty sure that Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers were the two rednecks that killed Fonda and Hopper in Easy Rider.

Brees might actually be a fish-man, which would explain why he's blossumed in New Orleans.

[Nevermore]

I can never take Roethlisberger seriously because he looks just like Will Ferrell.

[Rasix]

Jon Guden looks like a leprechaun tonight.

[HaemishM]

The Texans are fucking cursed. Peyton Manning gets injured, misses the season and tanks the Colts' chances of winning any games whatsoever and the Texans, who look well on their way to cruising into the AFC Championship game have to rely on Matt Fucking Leinart.

The AFC is Pittsburgh's to lose.

[Nevermore]

No one forced them to sign Leinart as the back-up.

[ghost]

Randall Cobb is a badass.

[MuffinMan]

Matt Schaub out for the year. 

I hope none of you had him in the fantasy league.   

[Trippy]

I can never take Roethlisberger seriously because he looks just like Will Ferrell.

He also has that puffy steroids face.

[Ingmar]

Yah, but they keep their mouths closed at least some of the time.  Eli is staring at the rafters with moon eyes while his mouth gapes open.

Seriously, it looks like they need to give him a sponge wristband so that he doesn't drool on his uniform.  He already has the football helmet for falls!

Edit:

That's not to say that other QBs don't look odd.  I'm pretty sure that Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers were the two rednecks that killed Fonda and Hopper in Easy Rider.

Brees might actually be a fish-man, which would explain why he's blossumed in New Orleans.

And you can't forget John Elway:

[Tannhauser]

Titans might actually win the AFC South now and then graciously exit the playoffs in the first round.

[Johny Cee]

Eli-face.

For Haemish!

[Merusk]

One would have to go to Kansas City to see such a poor performance on a Sunday.

Ahem... *cough*...

Pontbriand, a Pro Bowler considered the NFL's best long snapper, accidentally hiked the ball off the right foot of center Alex Mack, who lines up at left guard for field-goal attempts. The ball skipped back to holder Brad Maynard, who did a great job of placing it for Dawson. However, the 13-year veteran's timing was thrown off and Dawson missed the chip shot.

Only the Browns can make fucking up this historically epic.  How does a team block its own field goal? See my previous Browns post a page or two back... that video still holds.

Got a new one for you..
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/07/tony-rizzo-rant-cleveland_n_1080267.html

 

I stopped rooting for the Browns years ago, much like I stopped caring to hear about the Bengals.  Fuck it, I'll root for teams that know how to win and whose owners are willing to do what it takes to do so.  Go Pats. Go Steelers.

[Sjofn]

Top left is one of my favorite Manning faces.

[Paelos]

Once again, holy shit the Viking have fallen a long way since firing the mustache.

[caladein]

Watched New Orleans and Atlanta play a good game, one that was totally blown by two WTF's? One, how does the Atlanta kicker miss that last kick? There were some real bad missed kicks all over the place yesterday, like the Nick Folk kick in the Jets/Pats game (that made no difference). Then, Mike Smith WTF? 4th and 1 on your own goddamn 29 yard line and you go for it? FOR FUCK'S SAKE, WHY? You gain nothing by getting that 4th down. You still have to go another 40 yards after that to get in field goal range. Your defense has actually done a good job most of the game. Darren Sproles got shut out most of the day (my fantasy teams curse you for that). I realize it's the Saints and you want to keep the ball out of his hands, but that's fucking nuts. High risk, little reward and you lost the game and maybe the division because of it.

A couple of points to make.  First, running on fourth and inches is a play with a very high chance of success, especially with a solid run attack like the Falcons have.

The risk wasn't that large because the downside wasn't "lose the game" it was the difference in the chance to lose the game between the Saints having that field position versus one after the punt.  Either way, not picking up the first down was likely to result in a loss.  The reward for making the first down is that you're now quite likely to win the game (think of how important wining the coin flip is in OT, this is the same sort of thing).

Advanced NFL Stats finished up an article about this with the following:

If you gave the Saints coaches the choice between receiving the punt and letting the Falcons roll the dice on 4th and inches, they’d take the punt every time and twice on Sunday.

[Ingmar]

There are very, very few situations where you shouldn't go for it on 4th and inches, really. I think it was a good gamble personally.

[HaemishM]

The extra 1 in the loss column disagrees with you. 

[BoatApe]

 (think of how important wining the coin flip is in OT, this is the same sort of thing).

Counting the OT toss in Sunday's game the Saints are 0-11 on coin tosses this season...


edit: I fail at quoting...

[Ingmar]

The extra 1 in the loss column disagrees with you. 

Meh, if they get it 9 times out of 10, which they probably do...

[Fordel]

Failure means you lose the game though, the end. Weighing the 4th and inches in a vacuum is stupid.

[Paelos]

I would have gone for it if Tim Tebow was my QB. That dude can do it all.

[murdoc]

I would have gone for it if Tim Tebow was my QB. That dude can do it all.

[obvious joke]Except pass.[/is obvious]

[Sjofn]

Failure means you lose the game though, the end. Weighing the 4th and inches in a vacuum is stupid.

Punting in this case also pretty much means you lose the game, though.

[Trippy]

Failure means you lose the game though, the end. Weighing the 4th and inches in a vacuum is stupid.

Punting in this case also pretty much means you lose the game, though.

No, it doesn't. On the Saints previous drive in OT they gained 9 yards and went 3 and out, and on their last drive in regulation they went 7 yards in 6 plays and also punted.

[Ingmar]

Failure means you lose the game though, the end. Weighing the 4th and inches in a vacuum is stupid.

Punting also has a high chance of you losing as well, though - any possession change in OT is very very dangerous. There are a lot of factors. In the long term you should almost always go for it on 4th and inches, perhaps you make an exception for scenarios like the playoffs, where if you lose you're out.

[Fordel]

As Trippy said already the saints were entirely stoppable and a punt from there would have pinned them way back. Getting the 4th and inches there doesn't mean you win, not getting it means you lose. Punting it means you don't lose either and have another chance to win.

Then to put even more context onto it, this is the 4th and inches he was planning to punt on, then called a TimeOut to let the Saints Defense get the clear message "we are totally going for it so bring your goal-line D and stuff us". Which they did. 



This isn't baseball with 10,000 games to average everything out for you. You play with the situation you are in with all the context around it.

The sample size for a football season is too small. 

[Ingmar]

All I hear is "blah blah blah I don't understand probability!"

[Fordel]

Well you swayed me with that 

[HaemishM]

That Saints had been stoppable. This isn't the Super Bowl Saints that just rolled the fuck over people. The odds are NOT on the 4th and inches play, they are on punting and the defense. Failing the 4th and inches means you definitely lose. Punting means you might lose if a bunch of different things happen, all or none of which may happen.

It was a bonehead play call.

[sickrubik]

I would have gone for it if Tim Tebow was my QB. That dude can do it all.

[obvious joke]Except pass.[/is obvious]

Hey, half of his throws were for TD(s) on Sunday. :>

The Broncos Week 2 win over Cin is looking more and more important.

[Paelos]

Is anyone else amused that Timmy T and the Sanchize are going to be facing off tomorrow?

Battle of the 2 most overrated QBs in the game! 

[sickrubik]

I don't know if either of those could be overrated. Most seem dubious about either.

[ghost]

Timmy has God.  Who does Sanchez have? 

[Paelos]

Timmy has God.  Who does Sanchez have? 

Clock management.

[Ingmar]

Timmy has God.  Who does Sanchez have? 

The ladies. At least the non nutty-religious ones.