Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

[tmp]

Why can't the Skyforge dagger be improved? The Skyforge Steel War Axes I got could be improved without a problem.

Did you put enchantment on it, by chance? Possibly that can make the item count as 'magical' which would require separate smithing perk to allow improvements.

[Cyrrex]

Can you not remap the Tab button to the Escape button?  I'm going to try that tonight, because the Tab thing is annoying me.  I won't cast judgement on the UI yet, however, as I've only played like 30 minutes.

[Tannhauser]

Meh, I've learned to adapt to the UI while I wait for a mod to come out.  Tab, ESC, P, I, M keys, A & D move the menu selection, etc.

Currently loving=The entire Dragon shout system
Currently unloving=All the crap I need to collect and keep track of.

[tmp]

Tab rather than Esc is probably more convenient since you don't have to move your hand from WASD to reach it, and it's used pretty often.

[NowhereMan]

Also as I've incessantly whine in this thread, remapping does not work all that well since some keys just don't work for functions they're meant to when remapped and it also doesn't universally remap. So for instance D is left strafe, move left on the map screen and move lock in the lock picking game. Other functions just use the left strafe key, so they'll use whatever D is remapped to but the latter two will still be D. The result is remapping means you have to keep shifting the keyboard set up you use and some keys can't be remapped to (weapon sheathing can't be remapped to T for instance, because then you can't drop things from the inventory screen. Likewise use can't be made R because then you can't drop things into containers or give them to companions). Which is kind of a pain.

[Cyrrex]

Tab rather than Esc is probably more convenient since you don't have to move your hand from WASD to reach it, and it's used pretty often.

All things being equal, that is a fair statement...but the problem is that we are all conditioned to remove our fingers from WASD, hit the Esc button, and move back to WASD in the blink of an eye.  So if I can re-map it, I will.

[Rendakor]

The shitty remapping is probably my biggest complaint too, although I've not had anything fail to work entirely because of it. I have all the (rebound or stuck default) key commands memorized now for my setup, so it's not so bad anymore, but the first day or so is rough if you don't play with default controls.

Found my first useful daedric artifact:

I also met the leader of the Greybeards...

[stray]

Does the PC have the "Favorites" menu? I think it's a great addition (that is, as far as RPGs and consoles go).

[Sky]

It's pretty god-awful. I cannot think of a worse RPG interface off the top of my head, not in recent years. Maybe Risen was that bad, I've blocked that game out.

Boo, Risen was a fun game. And it fixed the wonky Gothic UI for the most part. Which is what Skyrim reminds me of, UI-wise....Gothic 1.

As far as "Imperial diversity":


Falc, you love BB. You can't bitch about UI   The UI is odd, but it's still one of the greatest rpgs ever made and everyone should be playing it.

[stray]

[Tebonas]

[Sky]

I've only met a handful of prejudiced Nords, not sure if any were actually Stormcloaks.

[Riggswolfe]

Meh, I've learned to adapt to the UI while I wait for a mod to come out.  Tab, ESC, P, I, M keys, A & D move the menu selection, etc.

Currently loving=The entire Dragon shout system
Currently unloving=All the crap I need to collect and keep track of.

See I love keeping track of all the crap because it makes it feel like a bigger world to me. While games like DA2 and ME2 go out of their way to remove more stuff from my inventory TES says "fuck you you can pick up anything in the world you want to!"

[Bunk]

Question. If I fight a dragon is it totally random or does it mean there is possibly a nest nearby with one of the shouts in it? I fought a dragon that was circling a small mountain that was to the east of Markath or whatever that far Western city with the forsworn is.

Look at the compass for a Dragon symbol. If it was a Dragon from a lair (where the shouts are) odds are you will be in range to see the symbol on your compass.

[rattran]

As for the factions:
Several weapons/armors seem to be off the upgrade list, Skyforge Dagger is one of them. There's a few others I came across, as upgrading then enchanting items seems to be the best way to level smithing/enchantment and make money. Daedric Artifacts
Overall, I'm enjoying it despite the UI and crashes to desktop, but some mods would really help. So would a real manual, and more sensible skill trees.

[Reg]

I'm annoyed. I just had my very first CTD in Skyrim and it happened right after I'd spent 15 minutes transmuting a big stack of iron ore into gold.

[koro]

Does the PC have the "Favorites" menu? I think it's a great addition (that is, as far as RPGs and consoles go).

Yeah, you open the Favorites menu with Q. I've heard that the console versions also have some kind of dedicated weapon set thing on top of the favorites menu, which the PC version lacks.



And here, this is amusing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7trmEmI5Js

[caladein]

Does the PC have the "Favorites" menu? I think it's a great addition (that is, as far as RPGs and consoles go).

Yes, that's also where we can hotkey spells to 1-8 to.

[NiX]

Does the PC have the "Favorites" menu? I think it's a great addition (that is, as far as RPGs and consoles go).

Yeah, you open the Favorites menu with Q. I've heard that the console versions also have some kind of dedicated weapon set thing on top of the favorites menu, which the PC version lacks.

Huh? Using the 360 controller and the only thing close to a dedicated weapon set is hotkeying stuff to left, right and down on the D-Pad. Which is 5 less hotkeys than PC players.

[koro]

I neither have nor have played a console version of Skyrim, but what I was told was that you could assign weapons to sets that you can access, but that's just hearsay.

[bhodi]

You can't.

[Lakov_Sanite]

I was weak and re-rolled. My thief archer was nearing that godlike state where things get kinda tedious so I decided to try a goody two-shoes elf mages...

wow, the game is different.  Hell, even the tutorial part was different, I got rescued by a different guy, the champions people actually thanks me for killing the giant with them and suggested I joined, etc etc.  Not sure what I'm doing differently besides not stealing everything but it's really a whole new experience.

[Nija]

Is anyone else hoarding their dragon shout points? I've got the force shout and the whirlwind speed one, upgraded to 3/2. Otherwise I'm sitting on 14 unused points. Waiting for 'the right one' to come along.

Is ice breath any good? I could upgrade that to 2/2 since I have both words unlocked.

[koro]

In other news, the Atronach standing stone combined with the Atronach perk you can get for 100 Alteration skill makes enemy mages pretty much trivial. I'm sitting here with three Dragon Priests casting on me, and my health is barely being dented.

[Khaldun]

I think whether UI gets in the way of enjoying the rest is pretty much a test of OCD-ness. I can completely agree it's annoying but the rest of the game is dialed in on my gaming preferences like a smart missile, so I'm completely focused on the game itself. Bad UI in that context is like buying a compelling book that has an annoying font.

[Yegolev]

It is annoying only, yes, but I really have no idea why I can no longer sort my inventory by weight or value.  Other than Bethesda's predictable descent into simplicity.

I actually can't fault them too much for trying since my wife still considers Dragon Age to be a better game.

[Bunk]

Is anyone else hoarding their dragon shout points? I've got the force shout and the whirlwind speed one, upgraded to 3/2. Otherwise I'm sitting on 14 unused points. Waiting for 'the right one' to come along.

Is ice breath any good? I could upgrade that to 2/2 since I have both words unlocked.

If you mean the damage one, I wasn't very impressed by it. I've only unlocked a few, but I find the Ice Form one is the one I use, despite the long cooldown (roots enemy in place for a while). I only use the ice breath when fighting Dragons, and it doesn't seem to do much.

I have points hoarded, but only because I've killed more Dragons than I've found words so far.

[MuffinMan]

I'm hording level-ups. I'm too afraid to commit to anything. It took me a half hour to click one of the first guardian stones.

[Amaron]

I'm hording level-ups. I'm too afraid to commit to anything. It took me a half hour to click one of the first guardian stones.

That's kind of hilarious considering the stones aren't a commitment.

[Ingmar]

I can understand it, the game in no way makes that clear before you've clicked on one.

[tmp]

* arrive to miner town where everyone is crying the mercenaries keep the mine locked up and how it's going to be end of the world as they know it
* pay the mercenaries 200 gold to leave
* get 600 gold reward from the mayor

"do you know why the Nords do as they please with you, peasants? Because you're so goddamn stupid."

[Ironwood]

Well, sure, until the bandits come back next season for another 200g.

You not seen Seven Samurai ?

[tmp]

Well, sure, until the bandits come back next season for another 200g.

You not seen Seven Samurai ?

Sure, but they'll return just teh same except i got what would otherwise cover three seasons worth of ransom

[Morfiend]

I bought this yesterday on Steam. I havent started it. Does anyone have any advice as far as character building goes. I usually like to play ether a Stealth/Light Armor Melee/Archer, or a Spellblade type, with Melee, heavy armor (?) and magic.

Can anyone tell me how these two different builds would play out. I'm currently rocked by indecision over which to play. I got both through the tutorial dungeon, so far the Spellblade seems harder to play with the crappy hotkeys and weapon switching.

[murdoc]

The most frustrating part of the UI is the skills screen. I'm learning to deal with the rest, not happy about it, but I can manage. The IGN skill builder helped since I don't have to try scrolling through their stupid constellations to see what perks I can get. It's just as clumsy with a controller.

Maybe I'm missing something, but it drives me nuts that weapons don't say 1h or 2h on them. I know what most of them are, but I've already made one mistake purchasing the wrong weapon. Armour at least says if it's light or heavy...

I think it says a lot about the game that I'm willing to ignore the brutal UI because it's just that much fun. Though, I just had my first dragon fight and I think I hit it with two arrows before everyone else around me took it out. At least THEY think I'm a hero!