Spiderman The Reboot

[Mazakiel]

I did too, at least until they did that Spiderman 2099 thing, but even then, I was never a fan of the whole web cartridge/ammo thing.  It always struck me as pretty lame that Spiderman had to worry about running out of webs. 

[Lakov_Sanite]

Yeah, I was honestly disappointed when I first saw the pics that showed they were going back to webshooters.  I'm guessing the formula for the fluid is what Peter finds in his dad's old briefcase. 

The formula for the webs is probably the stuff he yanks out of the back of his neck in the trailer.

[Fordel]

The mechanical web shooters to me, seem like artificial suspense. "Oh noes, I've run out of web fluid at the worst possible moment... again..."

Also just feel kinda lame in general, superman doesn't have to wear X-Ray goggles. I get that spiderman isn't Bruce Wayne, and logistics are a 'real-world' problem for him, but I feel like his costume/identity/job/life are enough to represent that.



But whatever, its not like this is make or break. "Mechanical Shooter, fuck you NEVER WATCHING MOVIE  " They'll hand wave over how he makes/supplies the stuff and we'll get back to the awesome swinging from buildings and shit.

[Merusk]

I find it hilarious that a decade later the argument has reversed itself.

[Sir T]

The mechanical web shooters to me, seem like artificial suspense. "Oh noes, I've run out of web fluid at the worst possible moment... again..."

Its gotta be better than "Oh noes my twilight wannabe girlfriend dosen't love me...  darn I can't squirt grey liquid anymore."

[Lakov_Sanite]

The mechanical web shooters to me, seem like artificial suspense. "Oh noes, I've run out of web fluid at the worst possible moment... again..."

You mean how like every one of superman's enemies have kryptonite tucked away somewhere? Just standard superhero trope here.  I like the organic ones, I like the mechanical ones which do add a bit of tension that wasn't there. In the last movies spiderman seemed pretty bad ass by the end but it did miss a lot of the "shit, what am I gonna do now?" moments I remember from the comics.

[Malakili]

Nothing about this looks interesting.  Even Emma Stone isn't going to save it.

[Surlyboi]

She doesn't have to save it, she just has to hang out and be hot.

[Riggswolfe]

I was very underwhelmed by that trailer. Hopefully the movie is better than that trailer lets on. But right now it looks like a piece of shit.

[Azazel]

Figured I'd bump this thread with some new pictures that came out the other day from Entertainment Weekly. Also, looks like the thread title could use updating.

The only thing you posted that didn't make me retch was the mechanical web-shooters.

[Tannhauser]

Trailer was dull.  No way it will equal Rami's first two movies.  Going to skip this one.

[DraconianOne]

New Trailer

[Ironwood]

I'm still not sure why we need this.

[Merusk]

We don't, but we're getting it for the same reason we're getting reboots and sequels of games from big publishers.  The stakes are too large.

Hollywood has grown deathly afraid of taking risks and would rather crank-out reboots, re-releases and franchise sequels with proven audiences.  How well have the risk-takers done over the last 10 years vs. the churned-out franchises like Harry Potter, Twilight, Final Destination, Scary Movie, etc.?

[DraconianOne]

We don't, but we're getting it for the same reason we're getting reboots and sequels of games from big publishers.  The stakes are too large.

Hollywood has grown deathly afraid of taking risks and would rather crank-out reboots, re-releases and franchise sequels with proven audiences.  How well have the risk-takers done over the last 10 years vs. the churned-out franchises like Harry Potter, Twilight, Final Destination, Scary Movie, etc.?

Depends how you look at it. The risk takers can make much more return on their budget than the bigger sequels, reboots etc but for less of a profit. Eg. The Hangover cost $35m and took $465m worldwide (13 times its budget, $430m profit). Transformers 3 cost $200m and took $1.1bn worldwide (5.5 times its budget, $900m profit). So The Hangover gives a better return but Transformers is more profitable.

There are lots of original films like The Hangover which have a relatively small budget and still have a very good ROI. But the numbers are altogether different from the top end of the Box Office.  You're right though, you won't find many people taking risks with $150-$200m budgets. Who can blame them?

[luckton]

I'm actually thrilled that we're getting the Peter Parker we deserve.  You know, the nerdy physics/chem geek, not just he plain geek-for-the-sake-of-being-geek geek.

Would be interesting to see the sequels that come from this relaunch.  Wonder if they'll bring back any of the villains we've already seen or introduce some of the other fan favorites like Mysterio, Shocker, or Rhino.

[Ironwood]

Venom in the 3rd film.  Guaranteed.

FUCKING BE THERE.

 

[luckton]

Bah, if they stick to a "no villain we already did in the first three movies" thing, they'll obviously do Carnage 

[SurfD]

I would kill for Mysterio to make a major villian appearance, but more then likely we would end up with Vulture, just so they could cast one of Hollywoods stable of ancient actors in the role.

[Tannhauser]

Spidey is probably my favorite superhero but it's too got damn soon for another Spiderman movie.  I feel violated! (not really)

At least do a Superman Returns type so we don't have to sit through the origin.  Again.  Maybe he can fight Morbius the vampire who is all sparkly.  I'm just spitballing here.

I have to go, I think Hollywood is calling.

[Ironwood]

Look of the trailer is that we're skipping the origin.

[Samwise]

First: mechanical web shooters are superior.  Not because they add a limitation, but because they make the fact that Peter is a science whiz relevant to his superhero identity.  If some other schmuck had gotten bitten by that spider, he'd still be strong and able to climb walls and shit, but he wouldn't be Spiderman.

Second: I now very much want a Spiderman Mirror's Edge game, but in the context of a movie the FPS video game view looks fucking retarded.  Stop it.

[Evildrider]

The reason that this got made is they would have lost the rights to it and the license would have reverted back to Marvel/Disney.  Same reason we have another Ghost Rider movie.

[Ironwood]

Oh Dear God, we have another Ghost Rider movie ??

Did we not LEARN ?

 

[DraconianOne]

Look of the trailer is that we're skipping the origin.

You think? I got the distinct impression that it would not only be an origin, but a different origin story to the usual.

[Ironwood]

Impression I was given, which would make sense.

No-one is going to give a fuck about watching his origin story again.  The best thing they could do is start the film with a cool fight scene and a 'oh yeah, I got bit by a spider'.

[Arthur_Parker]

You can't just skip it totally in the first film, it could be a tiny flashback though and I hope that's the way it goes.

[Velorath]

Oh Dear God, we have another Ghost Rider movie ??

Did we not LEARN ?

 

At least this Ghost Rider movie is being directed by the guys that did the Crank movies, from a story co-written by Goyer and a couple of TV writers who have done some ok stuff.  I'm not saying it's going to be a good movie, but at least that's more promising than the first movie's "from the guy that brought you Daredevil and wrote Jack Frost".

[SurfD]

Oh Dear God, we have another Ghost Rider movie ??

Did we not LEARN ?

 

At least this Ghost Rider movie is being directed by the guys that did the Crank movies, from a story co-written by Goyer and a couple of TV writers who have done some ok stuff.  I'm not saying it's going to be a good movie, but at least that's more promising than the first movie's "from the guy that brought you Daredevil and wrote Jack Frost".

It could be written by god himself, It still stars Nick Cage.  Nothing can redeem it from that.

[DraconianOne]

You can't just skip it totally in the first film, it could be a tiny flashback though and I hope that's the way it goes.

Rewatch the teaser trailer.

Be prepared for an entire film about origin and parental secrets.

[Arthur_Parker]

I was talking about the weak nerd getting pushed around in school, being made fun of for spending ages in the bathroom while his skin falls off.  I'm happy to skip most of that.

[Ironwood]

It really doesn't need anything beyond five minutes.

Which is why it ought to be flashback.  Every cunt is going to be flashing back to Tobey anyway, so what the fuck ?

[luckton]

People will still make this new Spiderman a success because they enjoyed all the previous films and think it's more of the same.  They'll enjoy the action and effects, but they'll be confused as fuck as to why we're starting over again and why Peter is using machines to shoot webs now instead of making it naturally.  Even with that though, it'll be another money-hat grossing film.

[Lakov_Sanite]

You thought emo-pete was bad? Watch out for the amazing angst!

[01101010]

and why Peter is using machines to shoot webs now instead of making it naturally. 

 

What? I can't even grasp that... So what makes it spiderman rather than <generic insect>man?