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That said! Lot of chicks already like Spider-Man as it is.. making it more appealing on that level isn't necessarily a bad idea.
Exactly how is making it appealing on the level of Twilight not a bad thing? Would you really want that fanbase associated with Spiderman, or actually anything you enjoy? |
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I bet Marvel and Sony would, cause, ya know, the money.
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NowhereMan
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I really think this direction could work with Spiderman but it's really more suited to a series than a movie. That said I'm not sure what sort of effects budget they'd have, how that would work but something along the lines of Smallville with Spiderman would seem a perfect fit. I'm not sure if it'll work as well in movie form simply because the soap operaey stuff they seem to want to throw in won't have the space to develop well.
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That said! Lot of chicks already like Spider-Man as it is.. making it more appealing on that level isn't necessarily a bad idea.
Exactly how is making it appealing on the level of Twilight not a bad thing? Would you really want that fanbase associated with Spiderman, or actually anything you enjoy? You're taking my last sentence out. I mean it's not necessarily bad to appeal to chicks more -- but my last sentence was "It need not be Twilight to do so." In other words, they could just delve more into the romantic parts that were already there. It wouldn't really have to be that much. I mean, those parts were already in the other Spider-Man movies, and they were broadly appealing as is. |
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Face it. Spider-Man is going to sparkle every time his spidey-sense goes off.
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That said! Lot of chicks already like Spider-Man as it is.. making it more appealing on that level isn't necessarily a bad idea.
Exactly how is making it appealing on the level of Twilight not a bad thing? Would you really want that fanbase associated with Spiderman, or actually anything you enjoy? Are we really going to wave Spider-Man fans around as some kind of cultural elite in comparison to Twilight fans? Or pretend that the retarded that exists within Spider-Man lore is in some way less than exists in the retarded of Twilight? (SFW, but not at first glance)  Regardless, Spider-Man the reboot isn't going to turn into Twilight. It will probably make Watson more than the wallflower Parker pines after though (because if you do want to make the Spider-Man / Twilight comparison, Parker isn't on the Cullen side of things - he's the chick). |
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It's as simple as this. You can't expect sipder-man to be popular as a teen drama.
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Are we really going to wave Spider-Man fans around as some kind of cultural elite in comparison to Twilight fans? Or pretend that the retarded that exists within Spider-Man lore is in some way less than exists in the retarded of Twilight?
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Ubvman
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Hows this for a reboot twist.
Instead of MJ as the main squeeze, lets have Gwen Stacy.
Yeah, I know it'll never fly but really its not like MJ is like Lois Lane in the comics cannon.
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stray
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Are we really going to wave Spider-Man fans around as some kind of cultural elite in comparison to Twilight fans? Or pretend that the retarded that exists within Spider-Man lore is in some way less than exists in the retarded of Twilight?
Compared to Twilight fans even furries are normal. That's pretty warped. |
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Lakov_Sanite
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Are we really going to wave Spider-Man fans around as some kind of cultural elite in comparison to Twilight fans? Or pretend that the retarded that exists within Spider-Man lore is in some way less than exists in the retarded of Twilight?
Compared to Twilight fans even furries are normal. That's pretty warped. Yet accurate |
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Hows this for a reboot twist.
Instead of MJ as the main squeeze, lets have Gwen Stacy.
Yeah, I know it'll never fly but really its not like MJ is like Lois Lane in the comics cannon.
Maybe spiderman will actually be spidergirl, sturggling to come to terms with the transformation in her life AND the tribulations of being a high school glee club member while all along developing a non-relationship with an enigmatic and handsome young fellow with a dark past and four metallic arms. |
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HaemishM
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Hows this for a reboot twist.
Instead of MJ as the main squeeze, lets have Gwen Stacy.
Yeah, I know it'll never fly but really its not like MJ is like Lois Lane in the comics cannon.
With the recent reboot the comics themselves did (Mephisto magiced away Peter's entire marriage to MJ), I don't see any reason the movie can't go back to Gwen Stacy with MJ Watson as a source of romantic tension. Teens love unrequited love triangles by prissy effeminate men who can't decide which unbelievably hot chick to date because of his dark emo secret. Goddamnit, this reboot is starting to sound like everything I hated about the Spider-Man character in the first place. Whiny, emo douche Peter in high school love triangles. |
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I'd watch a Spider Girl movie under the assumption they create a compelling character arc and narrative that definitely ends after at most three movies.
Seriously. I want them to explore that.
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"(500) Days of Summer" was well handled. Getting Webber as a director suggests they want to do more of the romance between Parker and Watson. Some of the commercial success of the first film was attributed to it being accessible to guys and girls. After all, I think "Spider-Man" starts off with "This is about a girl".
It's perfectly clear they want to turn spider-man into twilight but that's a very bad idea. That is exactly what I was thinking. Seems like they are going for the Teen Angst angle, and hence, market. |
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Azaroth
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Something with Spider-Slayers please.
I remember the short round one from the original cartoon series. God DAMN that shit was creepy.
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I'm not sure what's worse, making it Twilight, or the geeks who wig out about the first one for "organic web shooters".
500 Days of Summer was aimed more at men than women. I don't get the Twilight comparisons at all. Hulk, like any character in comics, is one with an excellent premise / origin that suffers from not having proper execution / no "wrap it up, B!" to make it consistently good. All they do is EXIST; they don't have any interesting goals or changes that reevaluate those goals. Banner always out for a cure, Spidey always trying to unfuck a life that is purposely fucked up, Batman always trying to stop crime.
Hulk is really bad example to use here given the incredible changes he's undergone over the years. He's been a man who transformed into a dumb green guy, a man who transformed into a smart grey guy, a permanent smart green guy with no human form at all, ran around on an alien planet, etc etc. His character today is not really the same as the original Hulk and there have been plenty of jumping on and jumping off points in his series. True, the character will always exist, but you can look at something like the end of Hulk: Ground Zero as the end of one tale and the start of another. In that arc he had very specific goals (beyond "find a cure") and there was a definite beginning, middle and end. |
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Can't wait to see Uncle Ben dying again! And a Spider biting pete's finger! This is going to be SOOOO good.  |
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Can't wait to see Uncle Ben dying again! And a Spider biting pete's finger! This is going to be SOOOO good. I'm looking forward to the scenes where he invents web fluid! Finally, I won't have to accept how completely impossible it would be for someone to shoot "spider web" out of their wrists naturally.  |
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Spiderman is very pretty.
I know I'm getting older, but I can't stand how everything has to be pretty these days. Keep the women pretty and the men... normal.
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Have you tried the internet? It's made out of millions of people missing the point of everything and then getting angry about it
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Gah! Emo Peter in a black hoodie. He's probably writing poetry instead of studying chemistry.  Oooh! Let's add to the angst by including his parents walking out on him. Spider-Twilight indeed. |
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LK
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God damn it. There's a part of me that wants to see it.
It is interesting to see Spider-man as a FPS Mirror's Edge type thing.
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HaemishM
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It's certainly very Grimdark.
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I have no clue why they are making this. Also, they used the voice over from the other movies in the trailer, WTF?
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Soundtrack to feature My Chemical Assbags, Linkolrnhole Park and Miley Cyrus. Playing together.
Don't be a douche and at least spell the names right when you mock people, we aren't ten years old here. |
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Yeah, what was up with the whole "something mysterious happened to my parents" angle they were working in that? I honestly cant remember what happened to peter's parents, I always remember him as having lived with Ben / May.
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I have no clue why they are making this. Also, they used the voice over from the other movies in the trailer, WTF?
Because if they don't do another Spiderman movie within a certain time frame Marvel get the movie rights back. |
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I really don't like the mechanical shooters, I was glad they did away with them in the first Spiderman movie. Oh well.
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Looks neat enough I guess, but yea, very grimdark, not sure on that at all.
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Mazakiel
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Yeah, I was honestly disappointed when I first saw the pics that showed they were going back to webshooters. I'm guessing the formula for the fluid is what Peter finds in his dad's old briefcase.
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I grew up with mechanical webshooters, I prefer it that way.
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