DraconianOne
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What? I can't even grasp that... So what makes it spiderman rather than <generic insect>man?
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Sheepherder
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I too am perplexed.
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Samwise
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There are in fact people in the world whose only exposure to Spiderman is the movies.
Yeah, kinda gives me the willies too.
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luckton
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and why Peter is using machines to shoot webs now instead of making it naturally.
 What? I can't even grasp that... So what makes it spiderman rather than <generic insect>man? Seriously? I am in no way a hardcore comic book fan, but I know this truth. It's how it was portrayed and done in the 90s animated series Fox put out. |
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Rendakor
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Arise! Just got back from a midnight showing; I was pleasantly surprised. It was actually pretty funny, in addition to being a good origin story for Spidey.
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The problem I always had with synthetic webs is where in the suit does the gear fit?
Also if Parker can invent nano tech web material and slingers, why doesn't he sell them and become as rich as Bruce Wayne.
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Ironwood
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Oh for fucks sake. We're really going to do this reverse argument here ? In this den of geeks ??  |
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Sir T
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The problem I always had with synthetic webs is where in the suit does the gear fit?
Also if Parker can invent nano tech web material and slingers, why doesn't he sell them and become as rich as Bruce Wayne.
Because if he did that he would be revealing he was spider-man and that could mean Aunt May could get hurt in her Beverly Hills Mansion guarded by 6 battalions of Blackwater guards that Petey paid for with his pocket change. One of the things that made Spidey popular as a comic character was his Humanity. People could relate to him. But he really was a fucking idiot when it came to his personal life. |
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Ironwood
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Because wealth wasn't what he was about.
Great Power. Great Responsibility. That kind of shit.
Keep up.
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SurfD
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Arise! Just got back from a midnight showing; I was pleasantly surprised. It was actually pretty funny, in addition to being a good origin story for Spidey.
I was actually farily underwhelmed with the new movie. The cast was good, the story was ok, but the movie in general just didn't gel with me the way Avengers did. It was also had some very over the top comic book cliche stuff that was not nearly as well done as the avengers equivilent: Also, I hate to say it, but any credit they gained with me from things like the Mechanical Web Shooters, and realistic city swinging (parker is occasionally shown having trouble swinging in areas with low buildings, instead of just swinging with ease everywhere he goes), they completely lost with All in all, a fairly decent re-boot of the Spidey franchise, but sadly, not even in the same League, let alone ballpark as Avengers. |
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Rendakor
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I agree completely that this doesn't stack up against the Avengers; compared to the trash that was Spiderman 3, however, this was pretty good.
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Thrawn
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I agree completely that this doesn't stack up against the Avengers; compared to the trash that was Spiderman 3, however, this was pretty good.
Well that doesn't help someone coming to the thread to decide if they are going to see it tonight. "It's not as good as one of the best superhero movies in years, but it is better than stabbing yourself in the face with a fork for two hours." |
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HaemishM
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Just one question? Is there an obligatory dancing scene in the movie?
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I agree completely that this doesn't stack up against the Avengers; compared to the trash that was Spiderman 3, however, this was pretty good.
Damning with faintest praise.  I want to kow how it holds up to spiderman 1 and 2. |
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SurfD
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Just one question? Is there an obligatory dancing scene in the movie?
You are safe. There is no dancing. As to how it stacks up against Spiderman 1 or 2, I unfortunately dont think I could really say. It has been way too long since I saw either of those to feel qualified to compare. If I had to give it a generic rating, I would probably throw it in at around 3.5 / 5. With Avengers / Ironman 1 rating a 5, and Spiderman 3 / any Ghost Rider movie rating a 1.5 for comparison. |
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Ironwood
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Honest to God, Spiderman 1 doesn't really age well. I know it's not been that long, but the Goblin in particular looks really bad stacked up against the other Marvel offerings we've had.
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MuffinMan
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Willem Dafoe already looks like a goblin, just add the ears and it would have been complete.
I'm debating on seeing this today but I feel bad that I never saw The Avengers.
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Lakov_Sanite
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Willem Dafoe already looks like a goblin, just add the ears and it would have been complete.
I'm debating on seeing this today but I feel bad that I never saw The Avengers.
You should feel bad. |
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CmdrSlack
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Saw this with Molly today. It turns out that if you go to a movie at 10:20 AM, you pay as if it was nighttime in the 90s ($5.75/ea). It was pretty damn good, and quite better than SM3 or SM2, IMO. This Spidey has to contend with varying building heights. His travel is a combo of web-swinging and parkour. Mechanical shooters give him a nice vulnerability. The chick they picked to play Gwen Stacy is hot. At least two short skirt-long socks outfits. There are scenes where it seems obvious that they're shot for 3D, but only about two. Really, aside from the liberties it takes with the ASM origin story, there's very little that is nerd rage worthy. It's a solid movie. |
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SurfD
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Actually, regarding the Mechanical Web Shooters, I was somewhat dissapointed that they never did a "whoops, ran out of web fluid mid swing" moment anywhere in the movie.
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Numtini
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I'll see it when it's on FX, but Salon ran an article that pretty much sums up my opinions on most superhero movies: Enough with the Origins. |
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Ironwood
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Well, I did say it on this very thread, but I really don't believe they did an origin story again.
Such a fucking waste of time.
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SurfD
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Except that the Origin Story is almost obligatory every time you "re-boot" a franchise with a new actor in the lead role. Otherwise, it wouldnt really be a re-boot. And the re-boot is sort of needed when you are trying to make your new franchise movie stand out as distinct from the previous movies in the franchise, otherwise stupid people become confused as to why this new movie is not acting like a sequel / followup to the old franchise. They sort of needed to do it that way to make it clear that this is not just "New Spider Man Movie X with Newguy replacing Toby as Spidey."
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HaemishM
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They should have. As much as I liked Spider-Man 1, that mask looks so much better than the plastic shit they put onscreen. |
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Lakov_Sanite
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origin story is fine only because it's a comic book movie. Literally the same as making a different line of spiderman stories, they each need a beginning.
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murdoc
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Part of the reason that Avengers was so good was that we didn't have to wade through any origins stories.
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Have you tried the internet? It's made out of millions of people missing the point of everything and then getting angry about it
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Lantyssa
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We still had to get the team together, which ate up a chunk of the movie. It still wasn't as drawn out as most origin stories.
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Numtini
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Except that the Origin Story is almost obligatory every time you "re-boot" a franchise with a new actor in the lead role. Bond has managed to last 50 years and use 6 actors with only one origin story movie. |
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UnSub
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"The Incredibles" had no origin story - more like a 'then and now'.
The reality is we don't really need to see characters get their powers, we just want to see them use them in impressive ways. The vast majority of origin stories eat up time in a superhero movie and slow it down.
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rk47
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for lesser known dude like daredevil and ghost rider - i think it's a given we should learn how these guys came to be.
Spidey and batman, superman, doesn't need to be.
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SurfD
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Except that the Origin Story is almost obligatory every time you "re-boot" a franchise with a new actor in the lead role. Bond has managed to last 50 years and use 6 actors with only one origin story movie. Except that for all intents and purposes, all Bonds before the Craig bond were assumed to be the same Bond, regardless of the actor playing Bond. It has always been "same Bond, new actor". Craig is really the first time they have actually re-booted the Bond franchise. |
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Ironwood
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Except that the Origin Story is almost obligatory every time you "re-boot" a franchise with a new actor in the lead role. Batman. |
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SurfD
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Except that the Origin Story is almost obligatory every time you "re-boot" a franchise with a new actor in the lead role. Batman. Did you miss Batman Begins or something? If that wasnt an Origin Story Movie, I really dont know what is. |
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