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So yeah, Warframe doesn't have a thread but it should I'm here to fix that.

Why do you care?: Because Warframe is a very new school take on a very old school type of game. In it you pick a mission and then you go and kill AI in first person view with guns and swords and magic and shit. Its bizarre science fiction where ugly bad guys need killing, lots of killing. Basically it reminds me of when Quake was the only pc game that existed. Its also shiny, free and a quick no hassle way to find things to shoot for ding grats.

What's new about it? Swords, blocking, parkour (no seriously wall running and zip lines and jump kicks into sword spinning slashes and shit, you could make a point of just running missions super super fast avoiding most conflict and some do), stealth (you could also in theory avoid fights by using magic to  go invis or create decoys or just by crouching and avoiding direct los) and some rpg elements.

FAQ:
Will the cash shop ruin it for me?
-Not unless you are looking for reasons to hate games because you're old and hate new things. The cash shop is unobtrusive and completely unnecessary for advancement unless you need to min/max yesterday.

Which Warframe do I pick?
-The Excalibur is the straight forward powerhouse of the 3 starting frames. Pick that if you aren't very good at fps or want easymode, if its going to bother you that you aren't a special snowflake and your going to play in 4 person pubs mainly pick something else. If you only play multiplayer games and then only play those games solo Loki is for you. Decoy makes solo missions a matter of attrition that you can't really fail at. Volt is just the least amazing of the elemental suits but electricity is purple and cool.

Now what do I do?
-You clear missions and pick up modules which will unlock the map which you'll want later. As you do you'll level up your frame your rifle your pistol and your sword. Time for some rpg stuff.

I'm lost where do I go?
-Your operator chick gives you brief instructions and then you get a waypoint on your map. Its an orange diamond and it tells you which area to move into. If the diamond seems to be fucking with you that's because she wants you to move up or down a level usually. Also be on the lookout for hidden passages (vents and ducts and whatnot) and elevators or places you can drop down or wall run to. As long as you take your time, look around and follow the diamond you'll be able to finish the mission.

How do I do more damage?
-The mods you are picking up do things. More crit rate, rof, elemental damage, armor piercing etc. Each time an item levels (from making things dead with the item) you gain a point of mod capacity. The mods have different costs to equip. If you look closely all the info you need is visually displayed. You also need to level up the mods themselves to make them do what they do better. You do that through fusion which combines mods together to form a better version. At this time you can't combine crit rate with crit damage and get one that does both sadly you can only have a mod eat other mods to make it a more powerful rank of itself. Your mods level fastest when combined with the same mod or with special fusion mods. You can eat other shit but it won't do as much.

Magic?
-Yes each frame has 4 powers unique to it. To be able to activate the power(s) you need to equip the mod (which you get 1 of automatically) and then you'll be able to use the power in missions. You can also level up your abilities through the fusion system.

How do I get cool shit?
-Basically each planet has a boss. You'll get to Mercury's boss pretty quickly. All bosses have a % chance to drop blueprints. Blueprints are how you craft cool shit you can't buy in store for in-game cash. Mercury's boss drops a sword blueprint and the sword is easy to make and not really different from the starter sword. Not exciting but it teaches you the basics. Once you have a blueprint you go to the foundry and craft it using crafting materials you've been picking up while you kill things on missions. The real way you get ultra super cool rare shit is through alerts. These appear in certain sectors for limited times (30-60min usually) which is why you want to unlock all the missions so you can go on alerts because some of them reward cool shit you can't get elsewhere and rare shit that's very hard to find.

BiiF?
-Yes. Its actually really fun. Warframe is at its best when you play with people you know because pubs tend to have at least one guy who is very powerful for the mission level who pushes the pace to the point where you can't really enjoy anything about it. Solo can be fun too but its nice having more dakka on your side. Try it. Its not a big download and costs you nothing. It will grow on you if you enjoy the base gameplay because there are lots of systems to master and rpg plus shooting shit is a good recipe.

Feel free to ask questions here so this can be a real FAQ instead of a made up one.

http://warframe.wikia.com/ Is a good wiki that has most info you could need.

It really is fun.

Also, its made by these guys http://www.digitalextremes.com/ (Unreal tourny guys).

Plays real smooth and is fun.

Dont focus too much on grindy stuff and just enjoy the coop experience (you'll get clobbered solo).

The AI is pretty decent too.

You had me at co-op.

Played beta. Stopped playing right after a group I dropped into was just speedrunning past lagged-out NPCs in order to min/max to the top.

I might try it again if someone convinces me that the game's content has multiplied since then.

Never played beta.

Aren't douchbags skipping content to maximize rewards pretty much what random MP is in every rewards based MP game?

I found warframe to have a horrible out of game UI and i found the game boring as heck.  Sure its smooth and the controls are pretty tight, but the environments feel copy/pasted and it doesn't really do a great job of pointing you through the missions (objectives etc).  Maybe I just don't understand the map.

the raid missions were the same as the extractions which were the same as the sabotage and 'murder the lot of them' missions.

Speed running is a big problem if you join a pure pug most of the time. Don't join pure pugs if that bothers you. Pretty sure I covered that. In fact in general you should avoid pugs until you are at least Warframe level 15 or so because your basically going to be a spectator trying to keep up since you don't have the damage or the stamina mods to contribute or keep up.

The out of game UI is perfectly functional, in a world where most pc games don't even have ui's that were made for mouse and kb its practically a godsend in my book so no idea why you would have trouble with it.

The environments are actually as random as Diablo 3's if not more random. But yes it does all feel very samey, either the rpg stuff and the tight controls hook you or they don't if they don't move on, nothing lost really. I think that I felt the game was pretty one note until I stopped running in full pug's because at that speed with someone who is way stronger than the mission it all feels the same because you're basically just keeping up as a newb.

Adding to my "faq" re the map but yeah its pretty fucking easy dude. Just follow the orange waypoint(s) to get to things the chick wants you to get to then do stuff there depending on the type of mission it is. The missions are all pretty similar in that the majority of what you do is kill shit and then kill more shit while going from a to b.


Speed running is very effective for clearing maps. The reason you need to clear missions is there is a fucking shitton of them and if you want to be able to respond to rare drop alerts you need every mission unlocked. But that kind of negates the second part, there are a lot of things to unlock and if you enjoy shooting things to unlock other things that make your ability to shoot things better.. I think you see where I'm going with this.

Dang, that reminded me how much I miss playing GunZ.

They are trying to get Gunz2 greenlit if you haven't voted for them already do it.

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/GunZ2

Ooh, thanks for that.

Edit: missed the voting by a day -- developer pissed they didn't get selected :awesome_for_real:

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/GunZ2#announcements/detail/1894036986326142048

Just started playing this, but accidentally picked a shitty starting frame, Mag. Is it easy to unlock new ones, or should I just remake my account?

Is Mag a starting frame? Or do you mean Volt? I would just remake account it takes some time and effort to unlock new frames if you don't cash shop whichever one you want.

Btw Mag is super cool, the powers it gets just look awesome as hell and you get to be Magneto. I haven't played it but I'm always jealous when I see someone using it.

Volt is not a starting frame; my options were Excalibur, Mag, and Loki. I've got two accounts, one for Mag and one for Loki. Going to play around with both to get a feel for them and see which I like more.

I played this with a friend a bit and it's neat but damn does the over-the-shoulder camera annoy me. It's a purely personal tic but for some reason I just can't get over my need to have my character centered on the screen. Especially when I want to peer around a corner to my right.

Over-the-shoulder needs a L/R swap key.  Of course, that's a consolism that PC gamers might not have adopted yet.

Was playing last night and it is pretty fun.  Went with Mag which so far is nothing too special, but pull has come in handy a few times.  "Nice shield.  YOINK!"

For Frame mods, note that some slots have marks in the upper right corner, and the mod cards do, too.  If you match the marks then the mod slots it takes cost half.

It's enough to make me want to uninstall it.

Are all the missions just run through corridors and shoot? Id love a good desperate defence mission or something different.

I think H swaps from right to left.

Is there a first person option? Or the ability to change keybindings?

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Is it possible to trade?

Not that I could see.

I'm not gonna lie - its a wee bit grindy.

But the coop gameplay keeps me coming back for more.  Its actually challenging later on too.

It seems really grindy to me; all of the new weapons and frames either cost a ton of in game money, or real money.

How do you slide? I found a list of keybindings here (http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Key_Bindings) but it's not listed; I didn't even know you could slide until I got an objective to kill 4 guys while sliding.

If you're sprinting (holding down shift) and push ctrl you slide.

http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1237678

This is a better OP then my OP. Read it.

Anything that isn't fun is grindy, but Warframe is not bad and its certainly no MMO in terms of grind. You shouldn't be purchasing most items instead you want to use alerts and blueprint drops to make them. Also the jumps in power level mainly come from mods not new items which instead are just opportunities to change your playstyle. There isn't a reason to "grind" weapons and frames just mods and exp which you don't grind you just get by killing things which is the whole game right?

Well, I started with an assault rifle. I'd like a sniper rifle, but it costs like 50,000 credits. I realize that's a playstyle change, but there wasn't an option to start with one.

I played a few matches with randoms; missions that were tough solo became a breeze, but lag and being carried by someone OP marred the experience. I also saw an alert for the first time; took me about 20 tries to join a public game for that. When we cleared it, I didn't notice any kind of special reward; are they just more likely to drop mods or am I missing something?

I accidentally clicked Mag for my warframe but eh, didn't seem like a bad choice.  I was looking into getting new ones though and while buying warframes is neat, having to also buy slots to buy them is kinda fucked up.

It's how they make money.  Thankfully it looks like Mag is pretty much the suit for me, so I won't need a lot of slots.

I dunno the difference really, but since I'm not yet using any Mag specific abilities it seems it doesn't really matter.  Right now I'm just soloing Mercury stuff, headshotting everything.  I tried the teamwork stuff but rush-to-end is kinda boring.  The infestation stuff is a lil difficult though, mainly those green poison fuckers, but I have learned the high ground is my friend!  Overall it's a very fun diversion to cap off the day.  And it's free!  So can't beat that.

Does f13 have a group?

I got a Snipetron and it's so much better for solo play.

Finally getting a hang of general play, but I'm going to need a fancy mouse if I'm going to be Johnette Woo.  Sprint-Crouch-Jump-Melee with a keyboard is problematic.

So no gamepad support then.

It's completely supported.

I tried it with my windows gamepad and it felt great and was very responsive.

But I felt silly trying to headshot stuff far away when my mouse was right there.

It only hurts for a short while. :why_so_serious:

Couldn't resist downloading. First impression is that I love the atmosphere and soundtrack. It has didgeridoos!

I hope the guns get more exotic because the starter assault rifle is a bit pedestrian, especially for this sort of far future setting.

There are indeed defense missions, but the first one doesn't appear for a while.  I forget which planet I encountered my first defense mission on.

You get to defend an object from waves of enemies.  Every 5 waves, you get an option to be extracted and succeed in the mission, gaining a reward.  The longer you hold out, the better the reward.  It's apparently a good way of getting rare mods, holding out for 15 or more waves until getting pretty rare rewards.  Of course, if the object gets destroyed you don't get the rewards.  Until the most recent patch, you did get loot that you picked up, but it seems that in the most recent patch, if you either fail or abort the mission, you no longer get loot.  This was to stop people from running to bosses, killing them, grabbing the drop, then aborting out of the mission in order to save time.

Wow, yeah, just tried this out and it was surprisingly good.  It feels like an actual fun version of Hellgate.

I'm barely past Mercury (not interest in public groups, and Vu isn't taking a shine to this game like I am), but if anyone wants to slum it with me, my user name is KC-73-HQT-314.

My first warframe finishes baking in 2 days. Its just an Ember but I already feel a lot of pride of ownership after getting all the mats creds and blueprints myself. The game really changes with mobs past L28 or so, just any weapon fired accurately starts to not cut it you anymore.

Have had some really fun moments. The devs seem good and hopefully this is a game I can shelve and come back to as they flesh it out and add more content. I've extracted over 48 hrs from it though without feeling like I needed to spend real cash so my verdict is still good game.

I'm all the way to rank 3 and the Gorgon and have tried most weapons or read about most to that point so if anybody wants advice on that front or anything add me in-game on Hoax415 or pm me here or hit me on steam.

Been playing this all week too. More fun than I was expecting I have to say!

I've been almost exclusively running in PUGs and while the speed running is a minor issue it's easily alleviated by going back and re-running any mission you want solo when you're able if you so desire. Something that's a blessing and a curse at the same time is that because of the frantic pace there's almost no time for people to talk in PUGs. This means a) no internet dickwad abuse from kids and b) no engagement with the less dickwaddy (that's a word now, k?) players.

Trying to fit a good selection of mods into your gear is a fun mini-game although I'm sure I'm doing it really badly and sub-optimally! I purchased a Lanto (I think) rifle the other day and am slowly leveling it up, it's not quite a sniper but heading in that direction. In fast groups I prefer the MK1-Braton but I think that's probably because it's rank 28 instead of the rank 16 my Lanto is.

Quick question about building new warframes - do all the pieces for a particular frame drop from the same boss? I.e. the wiki says that Ember drops from Saturn, does that mean all 3 components drop from the Saturn boss?

edit: Oh, I'm Apocryphai if anyone wants company during EU daylight hours :)

All three of the blueprints drop from the same boss, yes.  Each blueprint will require a few pieces, though.  Control Module is required for every warframe's 'systems' piece, and I believe a neural sensors piece is required for every warframe's helmet.  The pieces you'll have to go to various planets to hunt down.  The one exception to this is Banshee, whose blueprints seem to drop randomly as mission rewards.

Cheers. I seem to have 3 of the 4 required BPs for a Volt so I may as well see if I can get the 4th (just need the chassis BP now)!

To get a warframe completed you need to farm the boss and get lucky with him dropping the 3 parts you need (helmet, chassis and systems) once you have those you need to make them. If you are missing resources its probably either the special resource (if you need only 1-3 of it its special) which means time to hit up a boss on a planet where that resource drops (mouse over any planet and you see the resources) and if you just need 700 rubedo or something that means you probably haven't unlocked any missions on the planets/systems where rubedo drops so time to do that.

Once you have the 3 warframe parts baked using your boss drop bp's you buy the completed warframe bp from the marketplace for X credits. Then you use that bp and the 3 made pieces to form one warframe. That final bake takes a couple of days be warned.

Oh, I just noticed this and that no one commented - it should be noted that it seems that any warframe you buy with platinum comes with a free slot.  They also come with an orokin reactor and all four ability mods, whereas on built frames I do believe you have to gather up the mods from random drops.

Oh, and my name's Mnemnosyne on there, if anyone wants to add me.  I'm liking this and will probably be playing for a while.  Going to be adding the rest of you that've given names too.

Cheers Hoax. I now have all 3 parts for the Volt and am just short a Control Module and some Rubedo, so as you say, time to get round to Europa/Sedna/Pluto.

I also built myself a Wyrm yesterday. Ugly little thing. Doesn't seem to do anything. First mission I took it into, with it at rank 0 and therefore no mods, it merrily fired it's laser rifle at everything in range. Once it ranked up and I started putting mods in it stopped doing anything that I could see. It's at rank 4 now and has Warrior, Crowd Dispersal and Guardian and it never fires it's laser, it never seems to stun mobs and it doesn't seem to give me shields. Are they generally broken or is it just mine?

Edit: Never mind, the Wyrm started being useful. Might just have been a range thing, I upgraded the Warrior precept a few times and it opens fire on mobs just fine now.

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Nice.  I had a Banshee chassis drop as the artifact in Mercury a couple days ago.  Now I just need the rest to randomly drop...

Tried to get it to start three times, decided to go back to work.

Is there a wiki or something for this. I'm horribly confused about mods and upgrades and stuff.

From the OP.

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Have started playing this and been enjoying it over the last week.  But like Firefall and Planetside I'm not seeing much that would keep me interested once the initial "this is neat" factor wears off.  I'm guessing I'll maybe play it enough to farm up one new Warframe and then be bored of it.

Thrawn200

Yeah that's kinda where I am with it atm Thrawn. There's not enough content to keep me interested much longer. If something else comes along in the next week or two (possibly Neverwinter Online) then this will fall by the wayside. Definitely one I'll keep half an eye on though - if it maintains enough success for them to add some meat it'll be worth a re-visit.

Some things that need addressing IMO:

- Lack of content. Speaks for itself, it's repetitive before you finish the 1st planet.
- Group queueing mechanics are b0rked. Trying to get into an alert = constant disconnects until you get lucky. Too often the chosen host is running the game on a 486 with an internet connection made from moist string.
- Cash shop prices are waaaaay out of kilter. £20 for 575 platinum which gets you one pack of dyes and some revives? Lol.
- UI is terrible. Someone mentioned this earlier and they were completely right, it's a mess. Inconsistent, unwieldy and unclear, needs a complete rewrite.

That aside it does have a lot going for it and has decent potential if the devs start to get to grips with turning it into a real game.

Agree 100% on those.  But man, the core gameplay is fun.  The different movement options really do add some cool factor.

That said, if I wasn't playing it coop with a few friends, I'd likely stop soon too.

See for me that isn't a bad thing at all. Because I can stop for awhile preferably leave with a new frame baking and some day/week we can go back, play it for a bit, check out the new shit. The game will be there. The cash shop is hugely reasonable. The only thing the gouge you on is vanity (colors) everything else is a reasonable deal or if its vital to gameplay (potatoes aka Orokin reactor/cells and new frame and weapon slots) are super super cheap. Much cheaper than they needed to make them.

There's no real reason to be turned off of the game except just getting bored after awhile or straight up disliking the core gameplay. This is by far the most well executed not to mention graphically impressive f2p's I've ever seen.

So it's basically the door missions from CoH with the lights turned down and decent gun-play (which is where Global Agenda failed, in addition to soloability). Which is fine really, it's fun shooting the bad mans and collecting the glowing things that drop.

Look forward to playing it with some friends...

I said the same to Hoax last night. Fun little game with potential, but there isn't near enough content to keep me coming back. Running through autogen'd corridors to farm up mats to get better frames to farm corridors faster isn't really something I'm overly interested in.

Most games with this little content have a strong following because they end up letting PvP do the work. I don't think their netcode could handle it. In fact, they really need to revamp their netcode.

Right now I'm using it as a quick little shooter.  A mission takes 20 to 30 minutes so if I want something to do to eat up a little time, it's a pretty fun diversion.

So, basically, it's like the Solitaire of shooters.

Their spawning mechanics make me stabby at times.  Clear out a room, make sure I'm good, then a troop comes out of nowhere.

Vu and I ran an alert last night and ended up with 50 guys in a tiny room.  I killed half a dozen with my pistol while on the ground because I couldn't NOT hit anything.

I had that.  Made me want a grenade or two.

future plans:

I bought the snipetron and while it is insanely fun to one shot Grineer, you only get 72 bullets and I don't think any drop as it doesn't use rifle ammo.

i had fun with this last night with 2-3 friends, but the grind will kill the fun soon enough.
Will play sporadically. Look me up if you want 'rk47' is my handle

It uses Sniper Ammo, which is a drop but different than rifle ammo.

The lack of new weapons to try out is probably what will kill this game for me. This was a game that needs to have a Borderlands-esque weapon system. It would even fit the lore of ancient ninjanauts.

Should we formalize Bat Country since guild halls are coming?  Clans aren't anything I've looked into yet.

Sniper ammo is the purple stuff.  As long as I'm not wasting shots, I generally have enough to make it through a mission.  Two tips:

1) Get the ammo increase mod

2) If you use the magazine increase, don't go above 15%.  That gets you 5 shots, which is the maximum.  Anything else just costs you mod points with no benefit.

I've got the armor piercing and critical hit chance increase on mine as well.  Most everything I can take down in one headshot.

Came out of a low-level infestation mission with 0 ammo for any weapon and minimal health. I'd really love to upgrade my weapons to something with more bang per unit (or a shotgun) but it looks like you are stuck with the starter gear for quite a bit unless you put some noticeable cash down. And without being able to test drive the weapons it's going to be a pain working out what would suit my style. Even in planet-side 2 you could mess around with alternate weapons and classes from the start so this seems pretty tight.

The more I play the less I like the warframe models. They look less like any sort of armor and more like some sort of oddly shaped, semi-melted, plastic man. They don't come across as cool, especially given the limited palette and no configuration (without $). Being blinded by my own helmet when trying to shoot around corners is also bleh.

10k gets you a decent assault rifle that is 2x better than your starter gun.

Um, I had enough money to buy new weapons after like, three missions. The biggest hurdle was the level requirement(s).

Semi-agreed on the player models though.

I find the level requirements quite high, honestly.  I've been playing a fair bit and am only halfway through level 1.  I found it really odd that you don't get anything unlocked after reaching level 1.

Sicarius pistol (with burst fire), for one. I think there might be other stuff also.

the best way to figure what u can buy is just by going to arsenal screen, left click on your rifle/pistol/katana - there you can see what you can equip, what you can buy and at what price.

Agreed and this is why I stopped playing. Having very cheap weapons of all types available from the get go would have kept me interested, but I couldn't be arsed to grind the 50k I needed to buy the sniper.

... am I missing something then, are solo rewards terrible or did you pay real money? Because after 7 (solo) missions completed I have 15k credits and the 50 plat I started with and am level 1. The most minor upgrade (such as the first shotgun) is 17k credits and 125 plat (which is a ~2$) while the blueprint for the same is 30k credits and materials I probably don't have.

I'd consider buying the gun if I could test drive it...

Also the game really doesn't like being alt-f4'd, so some of the numbers might be fuzzy because the client keeps crashing.

are you playing a different version than me? cause honestly, i did what i said - click on your main weapon in arsenal - and it'll show you what you can buy.
i found 10k rifle, 15k shotgun, 15k staff melee weapon , 4k dual pistols, etc.

Does one get better rewards for playing a group? I was in a three/four man most of the time, so maybe that was why I had around 17k after a few runs. Plus, you definitely can buy stuff from around the 10k mark, per above. =)

Yeah, it was me being a dumbass... I assumed the two prices were AND rather than OR.

Now have a shotgun to level up and it works much better with Loki I think. Now to get 17k so I can make the cronus and 35k so I can buy the lex.

AFAIK the rewards are the same grouped as solo, it's just a lot, lot faster grouped. If you really can't stand the rush rush rush of PUG groups then you will find it really hard to progress. Try running a few grouped and see how fast you pull in money and ratings.

I've got to the point where I'm trying to unlock later planets (on Sedna atm) and there often isn't anyone else running them at the times I'm on so I've had to start soloing some of them. It's a totally different game. Sooooo slow! You do get more time to open every locker and search every corner for resources but it's also massively more difficult.

My Volt finishes building tomorrow morning and I've got a set of Rhino components coming off the production line in about an hour, looking forward to trying out some different frames, even if I end up going back to the Excal :)

Yep, some of my friends just can't stand going into harder missions - the first time we ran into mission Lv 5-10 he just starts panicking and starts running like hell. Till we get lockdowned and raped.

BTW, is there any option to remove the number pops when dealing dmg? I prefer if it doesn't show it.

Been playing this a little, good fun so far. Sent a few friend requests, I'm on as Taveran

Oh, wow, I guess maybe I have just not been seeing all the options.  Will check when I get home.  Thanks.

If you don't like your newbie gun(s):

main weap options:
-Braton (10k) this is a lot less accurate from the hip but fires way faster than the Mk1 version that you start with its basically an unload a clip in a second type of gun. Not that much better if at all though it does do one extra point of damage base per shot which means a lot in this game since all mods are percentage based.
-Latron and Snipertron (50k) these are the big damage slow firing options for a newb. The Latron is more all round and the Snipertron is the newb's pure sniper rifle. Both are decent to perfect depending on what you like.
-Strun (17.5k) this is the worst of the shotgun options, its still a shotgun and if you play in tight it might be an improvement its huge damage but low rate of fire and small clip, you can make it work but it'll take some doing.
-Boar (50k) this is a very fast firing 10-round auto shotty, its quite good except on Grineer missions so you'll need a sidearm that is useful against them. This is The Shotgun until you are mastery level 4 and can unlock the Hek which is one of the best guns in game.
-Burston(12k) as far as I know this is a terrible terrible gun and I never see it used so I'd stay away.

-Paris (20k for bp, 15k to build + mats) this is the bow, its a lot cooler than it is min/max effective. Your mats are better spent elsewhere unless it catches you imagination. Its not the worst but far from the best.
-Grakata (15k for bp, 25k to build + mats) this is a new gun to the game. Its a big clip and unloads quickly for good damage. Supposedly quite usable. You'll want to have rifle scavenger and mod it for max ammo or you need a sidearm that is ammo efficient. If this is mastery locked for newbs sorry, its new and I can't tell.

At mastery level 2 (the bar in the upper left) you'll unlock the ability to craft the Boltor which is the best all around rifle in the game right now. Sidearms and melee have a lot more total and viable options and are a lot cheaper to try out so its not the worst idea to just customize those and wait for unlocking the Boltor, Gorgon (great for boss farming) and later the Hek. But if you want to fight at long long ranges or up close you only need 50k to get a gun good for that and that really shouldn't take that long to earn. If it is going slow I can run some newer people on alerts for bonus credits when I'm online which could be kind of fun and hairy since alerts don't tell you what levels the enemies will be. I'll add everyone who has posted a name in thread to friends sometime today.

Pistols:
-Lato (starter gun) and Akilato (12k) this is a good gun, no frills no flash but very versatile and useful. The Akilato is straight up better at everything except firing from the hip.
-Lex (35k) this is the magnum, so Dirty Harry types this is your gun. Its very slow to fire by default but packs huge punch. Some swear by it some find it so frustrating they say its terrible, YMMV.
-Bolto (15k bp + 20k and mats to craft) and Akibolto (two Boltos crafted + 15k bp + 20k to craft) The Akbolto is widely considered and probably is the best pistol option in the game.
-Viper (20k bp + 20k and mats to craft) and Twin Vipers (two Vipers crafted + 15kp + 20k to craft) OTOH some swear by Twin Vipers as best sidearm. The Viper unloads a ton of bullets very very fast into a target. You'll want to pair it with a ammo efficient main weapon.

These four are your best options the others just aren't as good and don't fill any particularly useful niche.

Snipetron is an awesome gun if you like sniping.  50k feels like a lot for a newbie, but it is totally worth it.  Eventually I hope to try out a Boltron.

Also working on a Bolto or Akbolto, but still need some of the resources.  Same with making my Ether Swords.

Just a note on a lot of those craftables.

Fucking neurodes.

Update 7.9.0 (https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/35529-update-790-the-glaive/).


The fixed matchmaking is awesome, no more constant disconnected error when trying to get into alerts! It does seem to hang up a bit sometimes though in my experience. If you're queuing for an alert and haven't got in in 30-60 seconds then escape and re-queue.

Gorgon accuracy nerf isn't too bad, but it does make it very much a short-to-mid range weapon. Not used a shotgun today, forums are full of people saying Hek is useless now, I suspect they're over-stating the case as is usual for these things.

Just installed this and it's surprisingly fun for f2p.
Thought I had a question on mods and why I could equip some but not other, but reading the wiki page again I think I figured it out. Polarity may be culprit.

Only ran a few missions so far and like it, even with PUGs it went well. May add a few of the names I saw in the thread to run with if you're still playing. Also no clue how co-op works with newbs vs. vets, does level matter or only the mission you enter matters? Now that I've learned the basics I may purge my dude and start fresh.

Unless you're wanting a different starting frame, there's no reason to restart.

Polarity slots just give you a 50% discount when matched with the mod. All mods except warframe abilities can be put on everything of their type.

Still playing this, and it is inherently fun to shoot at moving targets which gives it some degree of longevity. However it does have the same problem as CoH (or any mission system) in that the maps, missions and enemies start to feel pretty repetitive and there's lots of pointless dead ends. Especially since you are tied to one warframe for a long time, progression is slow and the powers are relatively specialized. You are going to spend a lot of time shooting the same mobs.

But perhaps the biggest issue I have with these sort of games is the pacing and sense of place. In single player I find it quite fun trading shoots and dismantling the opposition. It feels a little bit tactical and there's a degree of threat. When I played a multi-player game it felt much more like just rushing and shooting which is somewhat fun in itself but a bit less involving. Playing borderlands 2 with some friends I recall the same thing, you become slaved to the pace of the fastest member on your team and encouraged to brute force things. Possibly since there's relatively little co-ordination needed. Though I haven't done a lot of multi-player, or have the friends for a non-PUG team so maybe others are having very different experiences.

It also shares the "ideal gun" problem with PS2. For my game-style it looks like there's pretty much one ideal weapon load out. So they need to put a pretty decent fee on that because once I get it that's possibly the end of my purchases. But that also encourages me to just not bother and robs variety out of the game-play. At least in PS2 you get multiple classes, vehicles (which also encourages different weapon systems) and in Borderlands 2 you might find some weird new weapon that replaces your current and encourages different tactics. Here it's rifle/shotgun, pistol, sword and most of the drops are just percentage modifiers you need to level up.

The limited inventory doesn't help, either.  I got the final drop I needed to make the Dual Ether last night.  I won't be upgrading my sword again.  I have the Latko and the Snipetron, both of which I like and won't be upgrading that.

Mag has massive shields and I've maxed her out, so I don't have any incentive to get another frame.  Especially since I  can only seem to get Banshee Chassis blueprints.  And once I get the parts for my Orkin Reactor blueprint, I'd be silly not to upgrade Mag over putting it on a new frame, which only makes her that much more powerful over starting something else.

I finally failed a solo run, mainly because I didn't know it was the Big Boss of Saturn.  His shields recharge so fast I ran out of ammo before taking 10% off him.  Bleh.

He's annoying and it really helps to have multiple people on him because of that recharge.  The time we fought him I got knocked offline as we were heading to extraction.  The other night it was our rescue target getting knocked into the floor by an Ancient.  We ran through most of the mission okay, but got back near him and failed because he either popped out or something ignored the walls to kill him.

I understand why they made the change for farming, but damn if failing due to a bug or losing connection hasn't cost me a ton of good mods.

Yeah, I'm starting to get frustrated by the bug ruining whole runs.

Info starting to leak out about the next update supposedly in ~2 weeks, this is ripped directly from /wfg/ recap of the livestream. What we already knew was that update #8 was the clan update, adding clan functionality mainly in the ability to make clan housing of some kind.


I'm not playing super often but if you haven't added me please feel free, always better running w/ non complete strangers in this game: Hoax415

Failed him multiple times for the same reason, plus having my first meeting with him while using a shotgun. He's not remotely hard, it's just a logistics challenge. And then once you get his shield down he puts the "hurt yourself when firing" field on and you just have to back off and wait. In theory he seems to drop the "ember" frame pieces but I can only fear that would take a lot of farming.

So I realised that a £30 Founders Pack was a pretty good deal for the platinum. Excalibur Prime is a bit of a let down as a frame but hopefully more useful after Update 8. You were right about the Platinum costs Hoax, I hadn't really twigged that most of the weapons can be obtained by buying cheap BPs and making them.

I've got 6 warframes now Excal + Prime, Rhino, Mag, Volt, Ember and Saryn. OK, that's 7. Oh and Trinity ready to make once I farm some more Alloy Plate. Can't decide which I like best - Volt and Mag are good fun, but so is the Rhino. Being pretty much unkillable rocks!

Edit: Yet to find any gun that's better than the Boltor. It's only at rank 20 and it's a death machine extraordinaire.

Still playing occasionally but it almost feels like the game is getting more buggy as it goes, not less, and no interesting content is being added.

I've had a few times when I decided to login and just do a quick run only to have it fail to join session.  Then when I try again nothing happens, then I can't even click on any new planets anymore, then I just close it and do something else.

*edit* Also - screw Alloy Plate and anything that requires it.

It's made by the dudes behind Star Trek The Movie Game.
I like the maps, but repetitive action bog it down a lot.

Yeah you do need to tweak your graphics settings, that should have been in the OP.

(http://i.imgur.com/uHneG4Y.png)


I feel the opposite, I don't solo enough to say but I thought that the failed to join shit was going away and I like the dojo idea and hopefully its cool to look at and the glaive is nifty and frost prime looks badass. I mean it still needs tons more content but the beam moa and glaive are both nice. If they could at least get a couple things out bi-weekly like those the game would be humming.

The Xs all over the place with the roller ball got a good laugh out of me.

It's fucking true!  Though I have learned to jump on crates and bide my time now, I ran through so much ammo, and they don't even hurt all that much.

A huge pack of ancients are cheesy, especially solo. I thought they were going to be like boss monsters until I had 5-6 of them in a small room. Still, I hadn't been focusing on their legs so maybe that will help.

Also looks like only one more mob type to run into since I've not seen the spider.

I've just been running all over the place until I get one of the big fuckers isolated and hack it to death with my sword.  Will try leg shots now.

No kidding.  If I can keep a Toxic Ancient at bay by sniping it's legs I'll be happy.

Adding frost damage to your weapon, even just the base mod, is really really good for fighting Ancients. It slows their movements and actions by half, making their wind-ups take about 3-4 seconds. Also, jump kicking them (sprint + jump -> crouch) knocks them flat on their back.

Ancient Disruptors have to be my least favourite thing to see in a mission.

After a few runs through Infested territory last night, I think the leg graphic is for Runners, not Ancients.

Crush works great if you're running Mag, have the power, and a fucking Disruptor doesn't hit you.  Crushing three or four ancients at once is satisfying.  My swords have cold damage, but I have yet to find it for any other weapon.  Thankfully Dual Ether kicks ass regardless of what is slotted in it, and only gets better with the levels.

I'd check this out except it keeps complaining my UPNP is broken dispite it working perfectly on every other program I run online. Including bittorrent.

Update 8 (https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/49101-update-8-rise-of-the-warlords/) is live.

New tilesets (Grineer ships), locations (Orokin Voids - need keys from drops or market) and weapons. Mostly seems to be about the Clan Dojo though. Needed to research & build some new stuffs. Oh and duelling and the Stalker now drops stuff apparently.

So... anyone still playing want to make a Bat Country clan?

I'm playing some most evenings with Lantyssa still.  In theory she created a clan tonight, but then went straight ahead and broke it somehow so she's not actually in it.  Fun time for that to bug out.   :oh_i_see:

Lol, well done Lant.  :awesome_for_real:

If you do have a working clan I'd love an invite, although it's unlikely we'll see each other cos of my Euro timezone habits.

EDIT: I've created Bat Country. Dojo key in the oven now, 12 hour build. Give me a shout if you want an invite! I'm Apocryphai in-game.

Is there a limit to clan size? I mostly solo, in Australian hours, but I'd be interested to see what the clan area looks like (Kageru in game).

Added & invited you Kageru. I have no idea if there's a limit to clan size, but I doubt we'd get anywhere near it even if there was!

Not sure we'll ever see much progress on a Dojo though - it requires Forma, which is login reward/rare alets/20 plat only.

Guess they needed to come up with more ways to extract cash from people. The game doesn't offer a lot of variety that tempts me to reach into the wallet, or get serious about it, even PS2 was more tempting.

I've been playing on and off for some fps killing action.  Balzek in game.

I've found that during Aussie play times the number of groups in action has really declined.  I'm stuck running old content as I can never find any groups running Earth or Saturn :P

I'm gonna send a clan invite to everyone in this thread who's posted their name. Feel free to ignore or decline it!  :awesome_for_real:

Still playing occasionally. Where do invites show up?

On the Contacts window. What's your in-game name tar?

Should be Taveran. Not really sure how the game deals with different levels and whatnot, there's warframe ranks, weapon ranks and some sort of overall initiate rank? does it mess up grouping for others if they're far ahead of you?

I'll add you when I log on again tomorrow, just shut the gaming PC down!

Doesn't mess up group at all to have different levels of warframes, weapons or mastery. You can still only run missions that you've unlocked though, so you're not going to find yourself facing enemies way higher level than you. You might do a lot less damage than someone with rank 30 warframes and weapons, but who cares? :)

Haven't been playing as much as I was before, but I still seem to log in once every couple days to get a mission down.  I can't seem to manage to stick with logging in every day for their rewards, though...I keep forgetting.

By the way, you can actually run missions you haven't unlocked, if someone else in the group has unlocked them.  Just don't vote when the other person votes for the mission, and wait the 1 minute until their vote is chosen.

I haven't played much, due to lack of time, but I still show up occasionally as Noitek, or Noit3k.

Cool, didn't know that. I've now unlocked every mission, so if anyone's hankering after a particular area give me a shout :)

Also got the last Vauban component BP last night and I've got Ash and Trinity baking in the oven currently, which will only leave me Loki and Nyx to collect (oh and Frost Prime, but not bothered about that). Might mean I suddenly lose interest when there's nothing left to Pokemon...

I think after toying this a bit, I decided to play ME3 Co-Op instead.

Unless it's an alert you can't actually see, you can vote on locked planets if someone else can start the vote, to speed up the start.   You don't have to wait.

I wouldn't bother busting a gut trying to get Void Keys, seems like they are very rare drops. Since the patch I've played for about 12 hours and not seen a single one. Done a lot of defence & raid missions, which the forums claim are good for Void Keys, and nothing.

Update 8 seems to be for huge clans only, soloists and small clan players need not worry about the bulk of the new content.

Hopefully they'll make it all more accessible soon, the forums are certainly abuzz with complaints.

They're pretty clearly focusing on more things that drop "in theory" but that you really need to buy if you want them reliably.

It also seems that all MMO's trend towards the hardcore over time. Possibly because they pay / play the most, are the most vocal or because the developers figure that's how to extend the content furthest.

Edit:  Meh, leapfrogging already covered in detail.

The new defense map, a Grineer one, is terrible. The AI spawning/pathing is fucked, they take forever to come to you so you spend ages hunting around for one or two enemies hiding somewhere. I've had it three times in a row on Earth now. I did, however, get a Void Key on the 3rd run! I'll poke people next time I see a few of us online and see if anyone wants to run it with me :)

Also, useful bit of info about sentinels - they prioritise their abilities in the order they're placed in the slots. So, if you want your Dethcube to actually use Vaporize then put it in a slot nearer the top left than the standard enemy shooting mod. If it's in the middle of normal shooting then it considers itself busy and won't use Vaporize, unless you order them so that Vaporize comes first.

Better description (with pics) here (https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/53547-guide-fixing-your-sentinels-ai-especially-dethcube/).

Vauban is a lot of fun. Frost + Vauban + Saryn on a defense mission = MY EYES! AoE spamtastic, great laugh  :awesome_for_real:

Got 2 void keys now, anyone wanna have a go at them? Would be good to get 3-4 of us.

Not knowing a thing about void keys I'd assume that we'd all need one each? If not, and you see me on, count me in :)

Nope, only one person needs a key to get a full group in :)

Figured some of you would get a kick out of this:

source: https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/55421-update-8-related-work/?p=572944

I've got the Void 1 maps down but haven't started running 2's and 3's yet. So if anyone has questions just ask here or catch me in-game.

I'd like a go, and I'm sure Ard wouldn't mind.  Mainly I want to get a Frost Prime since I missed the moa event.

Oops, should have saved mine I guess.  Just ran it solo.   :|

Cool, hit me up if you see me on, although this game has social tools that are nearly as bad as MWO's. Did one with tar earlier, was fun, very shiny map! We got Reaper Prime BP.

BTW. Playing this with the Hotline Miami soundtrack on is all sorts of  :uhrr: :awesome_for_real: :yahoo:  :ye_gods:

Yeah, I'd definitely be down if we can find the time to meet up.  Still haven't actually gotten a key to drop myself yet.  :angryfist:

I'm still waiting for the Optional Reset to come online - I dropped some money on the game early on and apparently people were exploiting the optional reset, so it's still down.

Once I'm back up and running, i'd be down to do some stuff.

The purpose of the optional reset being to recover your platinum I assume?

They are still nuts not to have a "training room" where you can experiment with the weapons and frames and decide if you want to put down 10-20$ on it. Or maybe their target market is impatient optimists.

Yeah, I made some purchases under the assumption that there would be a reset when the 'real' game hit, but apparently not.

Yeah, games like this really need an option to try things out. I played it some more despite my overwhelmingly lukewarm first impression since one of my friends got really into it. Then I unlocked the Lex pistol and it fit my play style perfectly - I'm now having 100% more fun and will probably drop a few bucks on it to unlock some pretty colors. If the Lex hadn't lived up to its wiki description or if it was harder to unlock, I'd be a lost customer, one they could have secured for sure if they just let me try out each gun for like five minutes so I could know I wasn't wasting my time.

It's the exact reason I didn't stick with Mechwarrior Online.

I am giving this a try for a mission or two a night as I have a bit more time until August


Admittedly, I'm not too used to Warframe, but so far I can't say I see much similarity between Warframe and MWO in your complaint. I view it as there being a very large difference between Warframe not having any preview with their weapons and mods versus MWO having trial mechs and easier to get items with a testing ground which does give quite a bit of insight to weapons and mechs. Sure, the trial mechs tend to not be optimal but they're at least available (I view that similar to if WF gave a trial to weapons without mods).

You'll have the advantage of some established players showing you the ropes if you want, too.

That initial hump is hard to get over because you don't have a good selection of weapons, frames, or mods, but once you start having some options it's fun.

Optional reset is back online! Just reset myself, I'll hop back in once I get some time next week.

Yeah, which will be weird as I'm not used to that, but nice at the same time.

Though, after Ard ran me through a couple of missions and was saying how with more people it is faster and a bit more fun, I also learned I really need to change some UI settings and hotkeys or find a controller to use.

I put sprint on Shift, crouch on C, and toggle crouch on Ctrl.  Trying to do shift-ctrl-w in combinations to sprint-duck-leap-dive-whatever was too finger bending with the defaults.

Biggest frustrations I have with warframe is the grind for rare materials, restricting gear with mastery levels and the matchmaker - everything else I'd be happy to write off as "ah well its in beta and f2p".

Material grind is particularly frustrating when it feels like you need to switch to crafted weapons to progress but the drops aren't happening and as there's no side channel to purchase materials you're stuck unless you can farm with clan or friends - relying on PUGs via the match maker just adds more frustration.

Stopped playing for a bit when initially hitting this with morphics, then found the same problem with neurodes - finally had one drop last night, so later today I should have a Boltor!

I use PUGs for bosses if Ard isn't around.  Though my luck on neurodes is crap.  I was 0/7 at first, and still only at 2/10.

Yeah neurodes are a PITA to get. I'm happy to do boss runs with anyone to help out with getting materials.

The rare material grind isn't even the problem.  You can get streaky results from the bosses, but in a pug, the whole thing takes 10-15 minutes tops.  Rubedo however makes me want to stab someone.  I'm at the point where my need for rubedo  has outstripped my credit gain, so money is now virtually meaningless.  I've got multiple warframes waiting to cook in the foundry for a few thousand rubedo now.

Rubedo really shouldn't be a problem unless you are building a lot for how little you are playing. If you just play through and unlock all missions on the rubedo dropping planets you will have plenty has been the experience of just about everyone. Usually you graduate from rubedo to alloy plate if you are building one of everything.

You can also farm some of the defense missions to get this stuff, break all the chests, exit and 5 or 10, repeat.

I now have every warframe except Frost Prime. All (except Excal Prime) made in the foundry. Nearly all rank 30 too. :awesome_for_real:

Someone invite me to whatever the clan is - name is Nonentity.

I'm slowly building up my account again after the optional reset. I really, really, really like throwing kunai.

Done.

Didn't realize I was still in a Clan! I left so I can be added.

Spy Drone Event (https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/74111-spy-drone-community-event-july-5-%E2%80%93-8th/) - kill a few of the new enemy and get a free Snipetron Vandal. Unless the community doesn't kill enough of that enemy, I guess? But with bonus rewards for being the catassiest catass on your block, so we'll probably hit the threshold. What an oddly structured event.

You can get the whole thing done in a few runs for yourself doing Uranus - Sycorax.  I was getting 4+ per run in an easy to finish extermination set.

I've been having good luck with Uranus - Setebos myself. 8-10 per run, takes about 10 minutes if you speed. But if you're just going for 20 anywhere is fine really - just make sure it's on an actual Grineer tileset (grungy brown/yellow with circular doors); a lot of Grineer missions are on the Corpus tileset (sleek blue/grey with sliding vertical doors).

Has there been any mention of whether the event weapon will need an empty weapon slot whenever they gift it, or will it just stay in a queue somewhere (similar to the forge) until I've got space?

Thinking about it that does assume we get the weapon rather than a blueprint, which would avoid all these tricky questions and provide yet another resource sink.

It'll probably be a blueprint like the last reward, to avoid the whole issue of needing a slot.  Find out in a day or so though.

Okay, I am so glad I stopped at 20 kills.  The final leaderboards had the top 100 all north of 3000 kills.

On the upside, new free gun and free gun slot, as well as the blueprint for the old snipertron, which I missed before.

They gave the old blueprint out, too?  That's pretty cool.  No point not to since the Vandal is equal or superior in every way.  (I'm still going to pull mine out on occasion, though.  Sadly, I threw an Orkin Reactor in it last week.)

I still need my two friggin' Latron Prime pieces.  They're being stingy with those Void Keys.

Apoc (or anyone else in bat country really), the dojo costs are reasonable now.  I started building up a cross connector off one side.  When that finishes, we'll need to build a reactor followed by an oracle off the two wings, then probably another cross connector and some of the labs so we can finally do research.  I've been saving my forma for this patch, and have two more I can contribute to this right now.

Oh cool, I'll log in later on today if I get a chance.

Not been playing this at all for a couple of weeks now so I'll just make you the dojo boss Ard :)

I got most of the materials started for the reactor, which is what's stopping us from building anything else right now, but I was short some alloy plate, if someone can toss the rest of that in.

I've been running Raptor on Europa like crazy. In like 40 runs I've gotten two nova helmets, two nova systems and like 600 morphics and 50control modules.

Okay, the reactor is done, I started the oracle and the next cross connector, but I'm out of forma now for the connector and ran out of circuits on the oracle, so neither have started their builds yet.

Okay, I started the three research labs building, but I don't have the resources to start them.  I threw in everything I personally had.

Apoc, or anyone else really, the first few clan weapon patterns have been researched now, if you want something new to play with.

Nice one :)

I've not played for a few weeks, might pop in again sometime soon. I'm sure I've got lots of resources lying around I can dump into the dojo.

Weekend event going on at the moment with an interesting variation of mobile defence against the grineer - rewards will be easy access to some kind of ammo conversion mods (as opposed to relying on the RNG to get them later).

https://warframe.com/news/operation-sling-stone-community-event-0

That'd be nice.  Ard is dumping a ton of his resources in, and I'm putting some, but only have limited amounts.

been playing this alot more now that I have a controller. I think that improves this game dramatically. Could i get an invite to the clan/dojo? Im playing as Fishug.

Sent.

Okay, so the majority of the clan weapons are researched, if anyone is looking for something new to play with (mostly looking at Apoc here).  There are only 3 left total that need materials.

They also added a new system with new planet maps, mobs, and a new boss fight this week for anyone that wasn't paying attention.  

Nice one Ard :)

Not playing at all atm, kinda buried under Steam backlog, plus went and got hooked on Guild Wars 2. I'll try & pop in and chuck some more materials at things if I get a chance though :)

No worries, just keeping you updated.  The last of the patterns will get started in a day or three anyhow probably one way or the other.  Not missing a whole lot now.  The bigger issue is that the weapon patterns need forma to actually make, which is still a giant pain in the ass.

Arise!!!  Is anyone still playing this?  I just started a few days ago and looking for some tips and advice on how to go.  Once I get home and can play on my own computer instead of my parents ghetto lap top, I'll probably be playing the shit out of this until I go back to work mid Jan.  Pretty impressive so far.

A ton of stuff has changed over time so I don't really have any idea what the new player experience is like nowadays, but I'm pretty sure it's still true that upgrading your weapons should be #1 priority. Weapons aren't really balanced at all so usually you want to do some research before investing in something new, but anything is better than the terrible, terrible starting loadout they give you.

I picked up a new primary weapon for 25k credits and crafted a new melee weapon from a blueprint I looted off of the first boss (took me quite a few times to finally kill him).  I'm still using the original pistol and warframe (Excalibur).  I've been trying to unlock the Rhino warframe but for some reason I failed some sort of test and I don't know why which sucks because you can only take the test every 24 hrs.  I did buy one of the starter packs off of Steam because it was 50% off so I do have some plat to spend on a new warframe and weapons if I wanted to.

One of the nice things about warframe is that most of the frames and weapons can be acquired without spending platinum (micro trans currency) and the dev team put out alerts for weapon and armour powerups after they do livestreams that would normally cost plat.

Only downside is that you need to have opened up a decent portion of the map to catch the alerts and acquire new warframe blueprints / building materials need specific areas unlocked.

Not playing currently, but best use of plat used to be on weapon and warframe "garage" slots so you can build up a decent sized armoury.

Well, I found out why I failed my first 2 mastery tests.  Apparently, having a sentinel with you can cause you to fail. :uhrr:  I wish there was some sort of in game tutorial that explains the game more in depth.

Been playing about six weeks now. It's a fun game. And, yes, the "tutorial" sucks, but supposedly there's some sort of improvement coming. Eventually. After Melee 2.0.

Tips and advice. I have a lot, but need some specific questions to really open up.

Fundamentally, the game is really about the mods. Weapons are really all fairly similar within their respective types. What makes them shine are the mods and the strategies of employing them. Their base stats are a clue of what way you might want to go, but to get there you need the proper mods and they need to be leveled up. Some aren't easy to get.

The Warframe Wiki is a great resource and you should go there to learn how Damage 2.0 works and how to work with it.

Essentially, all your enemies have various resistances and vulnerabilities. These needs to be exploited by proper elemental mods to reinforce your guns' base damage mix. Sound complicated? It's not, but it's also not readily apparent what's going on, either. Hence, the wiki. What it comes down to is preloading your weapon's various loadout slots for the enemy factions. One for grineer (heavy on armor), one for corpus (heavy on shields), one for infestation (they're weird), and then possibly one for corrupted (unholy combination of corpus shields on top of grineer armor).

Bosses are whole 'nother issue and most of the fights are scripted to some extent. They also mix up the resistance/vulnerability tables a bit. Here party composition can make a big difference, so try different things out. Also, read the wiki. Lays out the proper strategies, though DE often changes things just to keep the community on its toes.

Have they stopped making all the decent alerts being level 90+ missions yet?

They condensed levels to about one third of what they were in Damage 2.0.

Max levels on the solar system map is about 30-35. Alerts can potentially be higher out on Pluto or Ceres, but I don't see that too often. 

I'm looking at an alert with the shotgun scavenger aura (and cash) as a reward on Mars right now at level 16-18. That's pretty typical.

Random log in reward for today: Gorgon blueprint. :yahoo:

If anyone's on hiatus from Warframe and hasn't noticed - another storyline / competitive event is now live; Tethra's Doom (https://warframe.com/news/tethras-doom-now)

Why should you care?  Well it's possibly the least grindy competitive event I've seen in Warframe, and well, lets be honest we all love the shiny limited edition gear.

For participating you'll get an event badge and a 3-day affinity booster (if you've never used one they're awesome for quickly getting XP on frames and weapons), for 250+ points scored you'll get a pack of 4 limited edition electrical mods w/ proc bonuses similar to the poison mods from the Ciscero Crisis and finally for 500+ points you'll get a Gorgon Wraith an extra weapon slot for it.

To give you an idea how low the bar is set, a single run with PUG from Recruiting using my level 30 non-bling Mag got me 730 points.   I will say it's extremely helpful to have a Mag in your squad as you're expected to protect and escort a shield-sapping maguffin, so restoring your shields makes the whole exercise go much quicker/smoother so a higher score.

Edit:  Also a new prime frame (Rhino) and additional prime weapons (Boltor and Anky-something-or-other) released with this update.

Yep, worth taking the time to do and not hard.  I'm only Mastery Rank 6 and I logged on and used potato'ed Rhino and knocked out 3 of the interception missions.  Got 7 of the craft pieces you need, so I made two "keys".  On my first run of the escort mission we succeeded flawlessly, and I garnered 688 points.  Bing bang boom.  Later I started using my baby Vauban on the interception missions just to level him up.  Decent little event all around!

Now come play Warframe again all of you. (please)

Anyone who is still playing or coming back to play please pm me here or send a msg on steam if I have you already (I have most of you) and I'll try to update the first post with a playername list.

The event is pretty cool. The mods are the real prize here, but it's a fun diversion from baiting the G3 or grinding for new shiny.

If you haven't watched livestream 24 , it's worth checking out the last 10 min just for the Vay Hek hack into it.

I did the event with both PuGs and the clan. I didn't have any issues with the public game(s), but mileage might vary here if the O-fficial forums are any indication. The interception wasn't troublesome, but I brought Zephyr to it, so idiots abandoning their area of responsibility (then dying horribly) wasn't a big deal. The escort missons are dependent on the teams' shields and not going haring off to do whatever. This concerned me initially because of typical behavior in invasions, but nothing came of it during the mission. I saw a lot of "we want a Mag" requests later on, but I just brought a perma-blessing Trinity and it all went smoothly on both core and shield runs.

Now back to my regularly scheduled T3MD for the chimerical boltor prime blueprint.

Yeah, I PUG'ed the whole thing and I came out okay.  Well, 1005 points for the shield core hijack but hey it counts.  :grin: 

I think I lucked out by getting in early on the attempts, most of the players seemed pretty knowledgeable about where to be and how to act on the missions.  As the days went by though, when I was using the Interception mission just to level up my Vauban, things got much more difficult, with more of the bottom feeders trying to complete the event.  50 people spamming in chat about what to do and what the rewards were isn't a good sign.  Not smart enough to even read the link at the TOP of the forum page.

So like you Shrike I'm back to the treadmill.  I'm low on funds from a recent round of fusion madness so I need to run a bunch of alerts for some cash - and I guess I'm going to have to bite the bullet and jump into the trading biz and get rid of some of my extra nightmare / corrupted / rares for plat.  Unless I drop RL money for plat which I'm kinda loathe to do.  Even being relatively new I've already grown to hate the RNG prime weapon roulette so I don't own any prime weapons.  I do have a Frost Prime I can level, he's just sitting there.  I'm almost done re-levelling my 1 forma'ed Vauban.  Saryn and Banshee both look interesting, so maybe I'll work toward those.  My potato'ed / forma'ed Rhino is a pretty decent farming frame.

So if anyone out there wants to try out the game or get back into it, let me know.  I'm not uber bad-ass or geared out by I can certainly help out with missions and some mods if you're starting out, and I'd love to run some missions with some F13 peeps.

Shrike / Hoax: if there's an F13 clan, or you guys are part of a decent clan, can I get some info about it?  I got basically anon invited into a clan, and I accepted to use the dojo, but they aren't anything special and I'd rather run with some other folks.

I've been playing the poop outta this game and got a little carried away (Ogris is the best thing ever forever).The two guys I tried to get playing aren't really into it so I have a pretty much empty clan with a bunch of research and crap. I'm on as a_grue

Once Dark Souls II comes out on PC I'll likely stop playing :uhrr:

Added you as a friend in-game (I'm Mandelbrot).  Just send me a direct tell in game if you're on and want to team up.  The chat notification is easy to miss! 

I'm currently waiting on a Saryn frame to get done cooking, and when it's done I will be able to finish ranking up a mastery level and get to some weapon unlocks.  I've mainly been playing Vauban, trying to make some creds, keeping an eye on alerts, and running the odd ODE if I can get into a non-asshat group.

Well it's been the one year anniversary of something in Warframe, and that means presents.  In your inbox you'll find the Dex Furis (https://warframe.com/news/tenno-reinforcements-19) - akimbo pistols based on the Afuris secondary weapon design.  They look good, come with a free weapon slot and include a catalyst.

If you're feeling posh there's also a new limited edition skin for the Excalibur.

Leading up to Update 13 (or possibly during depending on when it's set to drop) there are three special alerts planned each lasting 48 hours - the first is for a Catalyst BP (weapon super-charger) and running right now, after that will be a Reactor BP (frame super-charger) then finally a forma.

It's a good opportunity to pick these up as Catalysts & Reactors rarely appear in random alerts and when they come up in invasions the missions expire quickly as the only other way to get reactors or catalysts involves buying them with plat.


Build. Prepare. Endure. (https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/205018-build-prepare-endure/)

And I understand PWE just bought them out. So look forward to lock boxes. Lots of lock boxes for anyone who still plays.

Yeah, PWE gobbling up the rest of Digital Extremes has pretty much instantly killed the desire of the half-dozen people I play with to keep doing so.

Devstream (and Steve) implied otherwise.

They won't comment due to legal reasons, but said DE will not give up control of Warframe.

How cute of him to say that.  I wonder if they actually believe that's true or not?  Once PW gets their hands on WF, it will be their way or the highway.  Bank on it.

Hey, it's what he said.

If you have some other info, link it up.

So far there's little concrete information out there.

How's this for other info:
-Every single game PWE has bought up to date.

It'll be different this time!  He can change!

My comment wasn't directed at you.  It was calling out how naive/stupid/delusional/dishonest the guy's statement was.

Hell, I just want to know what someone has seen about the potential sale.

Guess you don't know anything more than I do, which is only just this side of jack shit.

Still no news on the Chinese question but U14 has dropped and if I had to pick one word I'd go with "ambitious".

The update's brought a major visual rework which fits the space ninja theme, planet map and menus have been dropped and replaced with a small spaceship interior you can walk around and menus delivered via projected "holograms", but don't worry the chat interface is still untouched and a complete embarrassment.

Menus and squad systems suffer from major usability issues stemming from the redesign that should have been clear from day one to anybody remotely familiar with the game or MMOs in general.   Tldr; looks great in screenshots but now everything takes more clicks to reach and useful information is obscured or presented in really small fonts.

Launch has been plagued by a couple of showstoppers and a slew of major bugs with devs churning out several patches over the weekend because DE love pushing out poorly tested code just before the weekend -- I'm guessing there's some internal deadline or it's for gamescom (mid august) as there's no way anyone could have said this was release ready.


For now I live in the hope that somebody ragequits and we get a picture of what's going on inside DE's Warframe team because there must be truly epic egos and drama worthy of popcorn for them to keep fucking what should be a simple task up.

I really like the look of the new UI...but...

The chat is even worse now than it was. Of course, considering what has been going on in chat these last few months, I spend a lot of time with it minimized. Less mental wear and tear that way.

The nested menu thing is irritating for PC users, but it is a lot friendlier to controllers. I'd like it to be more friendly to both, but that's probably asking too much. Still, there's been steady--if small--improvement since release.

Then the good part: Mirage. So much sick, stupid fun. Move your fat little ass over, Nova. There's a new tenno sheriff in town.

Started playing this on PS4. It's come a long way in the past year.

I didn't see a way to sync my PC account with my PS4 account.

Is anyone else playing this on PS4? Switching between this and Destiny is interesting. I think I like this more at the moment.

My brother said the same thing and he hadn't played Warframe before.  He was like "destiny is pew pew reload pew pew and warframe is pew pew NINJA".

I asked in the Destiny thread what made Destiny any better. To me Destiny certainly looks like a slower, way less variation, console shooter version of Warframe without the sanic speeds or ninja stuff.

Yeah, I asked the same thing but no one answered. I wonder if it's a touchy topic considering this one costed a tenth of that, and it's on the PC.

And Warframe has the 'card' building aspect.

I'm not touchy.  I actually downloaded Warframe one day when Destiny was not working and I was not at all expecting what I saw.  Last time I played, it was definitely no better than Destiny.  Now?  I'm going to have to spend more time on it to be sure.

There's more to do in Warframe.
Doing things in Warframe isn't quite as slick as in Destiny.
Warframe is not a great broshooter.
Destiny does not have space ninja.
Warframe is free.
Destiny is for Whitey Richman.

I've been playing both.

I prefer Warframe overall. Destiny is more tightly balanced (or you could say actually has some balance) where WF is pretty much the anything-goes-wild-west sort of game.

I could give a fuck about PvP, so a large part of Destiny holds no interest for me. That's a problem with the game as it stands at present. Also, lack of communication. You can't talk to anyone. Without a way to organize strikes in the game, another huge chunk of content is unavailable to someone that just wants to log in and play a bit and see some progression. So you end up solo and that's...underwhelming, to put it mildly.

Anyway, enough of Destiny. Nyx Prime just hit WF and there's a tactical alert this weekend. The TAs are usually fun, but DE has taken to gating them through conclave rating which is as puzzling as it is annoying. Archewing (U15) is close on the horizon and should bring some open world elements with spaceflight and heavy weapons--and shooting up Balor Fomorians...from both inside and outside.

So I've started playing this again with my TS mates. Its significantly evolved from what I've heard. Still, the ingame documentation is ass, but there are wikis out there for the game. Surprisingly deep for a coop shooter.

They still need to integrate Archwing into the rest of the game, but it's "around the corner."

Player hubs are in testing. One is provisionally open to players at MR10 and above (and founders, of course). Haven't visited myself, but maybe tonight after a few beers.

New primes will be out here in a few weeks. Rumor is it'll be Nova (?), the Soma, and the Vasto. Can't figure Nova, but, eh, it is what it is.

It still has a helluva learning curve and ingame info is spotty (lots better than when I started, but that's not saying much). The community has grown a lot (you can read that as it now has hot and cold running jackholes in region more often than not) and can be very helpful, if you can filter out the random bullshit on evenings and weekends.

Still having fun myself. That's all the really counts.

I'm going to check this out for shits and giggles. Are any of the packs you can buy through steam worth it?

Warframe is the easiest game to not spend any money in out of all the F2P's I've ever tried. I've made something like 300 plat without ever trying just trading away extra mods that take some work to get and selling off some prime parts.

I looked at the packs and they look terrible.

Some people really do hate feeling not powerful and you will feel that way at first in Warframe. If that's how you feel after finishing the first planet (Mercury) then buy some plat. Just make sure you get the daily login rewards each day as you can pretty easily get a 25% or 50% coupon for buying Plat and I believe there is a very rare 75% off one.

But if you can get 25% off go to https://warframe.com/buyplatinum and buy the $20 package for $15 and that should be enough to jumpstart some stuff. Really though Warframe is a grind to grind more game unless you get into the pvp stuff so short cutting things is inadvisable if you were to ask me. The good reasons to get plat is for colors and other visual customization (armor, scarves, special robot buddies etc), to skip a grind later in the game bc you don't feel like it or to unlock more frame and weapon slots so you can collect more things while you grind.

Also like any game as a newb everything seems fun and good but once you've tasted/seen the actually powerful stuff 95% of the equipment in the game becomes junk. So rushing to skip the newb experience seems a bit silly.

If you do hate dying and losing and you are doing those things I'm sure someone from here can taxi you to farm Rhino (which will stop the dying) and trade you some of the basic mods you need to start leveling up.

No. The Steam packs are awful value. Even at the $20 level (and the value gets worse from there), the difference of 170 plat between the Steam pack and just buying straight-up plat from DE is not worth 50,000 credits (which you will blow through instantly and can re-acquire in an hour) and 4 random mods picked from a massive pool of utter garbage. Likewise, affinity boosters do you little to no good at low levels.

Also if you play the game a bit and find you enjoy it, join a clan ASAP. Roughly half the weapons and a non-trivial amount of actual Frames in the game are only craftable if you're in a clan with everything researched.



The only way to buy new slots for weapons and frames is through platinum as well. Similarly, expanding the mod slot capacity for weapons and frames is easiest done through spending 20 plat per thing, and you're basically gimping yourself if you do not.

Rule of thumb is spend your starter plat on slots. Buy one warframe slot, then spend the rest on weapons slots (you'll get 2).

This will allow a bit of room to expand in.

ONLY spend plat on slots or cosmetics if you truly want to look a bit different. Some impatient folks will spend plat on new 'frames to avoid the grind for them, but you're basically skipping gameplay. I was sorely tempted to buy Nyx Prime when she came out (and once I saw where her parts dropped), but refrained and farmed her up in a bit less than a week (was a bit lucky, but you get the idea).

If you want to buy plat, wait for a login reward. 20% is common, 50% considerably less so, 75% I've never seen, but it exists. They (DE) occasionally have holiday sales for platinum (Black Friday 50% off, for example). Buy a big chunk and then you'll be set for quite a while, unless you go full retard on cosmetics. If you're standing around in the hub or in a random mission and you see a warframe with a scarf, various gewgaws with particle effects and/or exotic colors--that's a player that has spent money on cosmetics. It can be pretty...overwhelming. Tenno with a firm hand on their wallet are a good deal more pedestrian looking, but it has nothing to do with effectiveness.

If you play Warframe on Steam, you can also get some various and sundry cosmetic bits for incredibly cheap from the community trading page. I've gotten the Rubedo stuff from last year for like... $0.10 for the whole shebang.

Got the clan playing this now. I even uploaded our fancy Evil Chickens clan logo and now it shows up on banners throughout the clan Dojo. Its little details like this that tickle me about the game.

Downloaded this for my PS4 because free... god damn it.

I really was not expecting the depth of the stuff in this game or the complete frustration at trying to figure shit out - like weapons and mods and enemies and... ugh. Game just makes me want to quit and run away screaming - which just makes me want to play more.

Serious question I asked a lot of people before and I want to ask you too considering you played that one: compared to Destiny?

Play it for the PC.  We've got a good group going.  They even convinced me to speak.

"WHAT WAS THAT?? OHH GOD HIS NAME LIT UP"

I at least hope you have someone to play with.  This game is miserable to solo in.  That being said, public matchmaking seems to work somewhat.

I haven't played Destiny, so this is second-hand.  It's faster paced and more customized since there are a few dozen frames that can play very differently from one another and a ton of unique weapons and hundreds of mods.

The combat parkour is a blast, too.

IMHO - the short of it:

Destiny has the shooting mechanics and feel of your character in the world. Everything has a bit of weight to it in the world. However, the game is fairly shallow in customization. Paid DLCs and expansions get you access to the toys.

Warframe has so much depth in building your warframe and weapons, there is a sort of metagame in it. The shooty bits are passable - but you feel weightless. Everything happens much faster and it is overwhelming the majority of time for a new player. Toys have paywalls (either time or real world money).

Both worlds are highly repetitive. Both are scant on knowledge of wtf to do in the game - though warframe has a better ingame codex to explain stuff. But the majority of info still comes from online sources.

Going to give this a try. Wiki seems to think Excalibur is the best noob frame- is that what I should start with?

It's easy enough to play.  You've got decent mobility and your level 10 ability has great AOE.  Your 3rd ability is a bit of a waste and you've got less overall shield than the other starting frame (although more health than Mag).

I don't think you're going to want to stay in Excalibur, Mag or Volt, long term.  So, just pick what sounds most appealing to you.  Excalibur seems to have the least utility out of the 3, but radial javelin is always welcome.

edit: Although, I'm not the best person to answer this.  I am still very noobish (and bad). I started out with Excalibur, and once my Rhino hits 30 I'm probably selling the fucker for a spare frame slot.   

What's the PC group? I've got a mostly-empty clan with a bunch of crap in the dojo, and I just reinstalled because of this stupid thread.

I'm playing this again as well, and appear to have become an officer in the f13 clan. So if anyone wants to join a "mostly-empty clan with a bunch of crap in the dojo" they're welcome. Since the last played times of the other members were in the hundreds of days I assume it doesn't have the latest and greatest but someone put some time into it.

As far as starting the game goes, excalibur is probably the best/easiest.  That said it also has the least long term end game viability of the three.  To be fair though, most people don't really play any of the starters past the beginning much.  The ones that tend to see the most use are frost, nekros, and trinity, but strictly for the hardest content types.  Even then they're situational.

Dicked around and got my Warframe to 3, and my weapons to 2. Seems like it could be a fun one to just pick up and play for a few minutes when the mood strikes. I

Once you get Rhino you won't want to use anything else.  It's arguably the best, most well rounded warframe you can use.

Mostly Ard and I, though we've both gone and left.  I won't feel bad if it fades in to obscurity.

Huh, this game seems wildly different from when I last played a while back. I seemed to have lost most of my junk I had collected originally (basically just have the stuff I had last equipped) or is it hiding in some part of the UI now?

If you're in the new tutorial, you'll get it back as you unlock things.  It takes a few missions.

Cool, thanks.

Currently our F13ers are playing on the Evil Chickens clan as the working social hub. F13ers are by and large welcome, so send Engels777 an ingame message and we'll get you going in the Evil clan. Please note that TS3 is expected for group play, and Warframe is group play. If you are not prepared to at least be a passive listener in TS (having to be quiet for family/sleepytimes/etc) you will probably be ignored by most of us. Its 2015, people.

The chat interface being useless doesn't help much.

You still haven't accepted my friend request, Engels.  :awesome_for_real:

That costs a forma!

Given my outdated PC is on the way out, I'll just stick to my PS4...  :cry:

I stopped playing right before Kubrows were released.  I just patched up and jumped back in - man they've really changed things.  I guess a lot of the changes are cosmetic and UI based but it was a little overwhelming. 

I stopped playing because the grind and RNG had started to get to me.  I'm going to try and digest how things work now and give it another shot.  Thankfully I have some resources (I played waaaaaay too much before my little hiatus) I'm Mastery rank 8 and I have like 8 frames maxxed out, some of the good event combo mods, what used to be the imba weapons of choice, blah blah.  With my new graphics card the game looks even prettier.

Failed the rank 1 to rank 2 mastery test for some unexplained reason and now I have to wait 24 hours to do it again :oh_i_see:

You would think after all this time they would actually spend some time on UI and QoL bits. The UI in particular seems to be getting worse over time.

DE was showing some potential revisions to the UI (again) on the last dev stream.

I wouldn't look for any groundshaking changes, but they seem intent to improving functionality. They've added quite a bit of QoL stuff since they introduced this UI.

As for failing rank tests, well, it happens. The issue with the cooldown is you can't practice what you're screwing up to improve. That's especially frustrating with the parkour based tests (which I suck at). They are (finally) introducing a mastery practice simulator to the relays with a new NPC. He'll be joining the game "soon."

The problem with my failure is it didn't tell me why I failed. From Googling it may be a time limit which I didn't see or it may have been my companion or it may have been my heat damage or some other mod on my pistol. I didn't use anything other than the pistol and I didn't use any abilities which are other ways to fail (which it also doesn't tell you about).

Edit: reading the Wiki it was likely the time limit that caused me fail. I've failed other timed missions cause of that fucking time limit which isn't displayed prominently and doesn't warn you when it's about to expire.

Most early mastery rank failures are due to just running out of time. If your damage is marginal in either burst or sustained dps, you're probably going to fail.

Whenever a new group of players join the game, you see this a lot in region chat from the ones that chose the Mk1 Paris bow. Trying to rank up in the first test using that is just an exercise in futility.

The main thing is get the weapons modded up as quickly as you can and if one isn't getting it done, get something else. The early upgrades are credit based and pretty easy to farm up the price on the first couple of planets.

The game doesn't really give you much help with this stuff. It's pretty much sink or swim early on. There's a lot of good info in the wiki and the people in region are usually helpful if you are really stymied by something.

Damage wasn't the issue in my case. I hit 20+ with all my starter gear (and have them modded) when I became eligible for the rank 2 test cause I was around 10+ when I last played and going through the new tutorial and the new first quest line plus some random missions got me to 20. My issue was the first two waves were all melee so I decided to hop up onto the pillar to shoot down at them to save some wear and tear on my shields but hitting them from there can be a bit tricky when they are humping the base of the pillar so it took too long.

Yeah, you have to be efficient in a lot of the mastery tests.  Though I dislike having to do it, I really advise hitting the wiki ahead of time to know the constraints of the Mastery tests.  Passing or failing often does come down to whether you have the right frame, right companion, and right weapon equipped going into it.

The first test is one of the hardest there is. It gets very easy after that, till around rank 9ish. However, you point at the larger problem with the game, which is endemic to many good games; the devs see the game from a 'veteran' player's perspective and forget to include clear information. The wiki is essentially a must and having a group of friends playing the game helps enormously, since you can ask the basic questions without having to dig about in player-written guides. I for one would not have lasted 48 hours in the game without the folks in the clan helping me along.

I think with the first 4 tests you just need to keep one thing in mind: get out of the middle. Just run from pillar to pillar. I suppose these could suck if you picked shitty starting weapons (which could happen).  I found them easy once I figured out how to approach it, but I pretty much picked the easiest starting weapon combo (mk1 braton, lato, skana).   For the rank 4 test, you should enter with full energy and just backpedal the entire time, or you'll get swamped.

As deep as the rabbit hole is early on, it just gets deeper.  There's still a lot of shit I have only the faintest clue about, and I'm still pretty terrible at producing decent builds.

edit: For the record, I randomly failed my first rank test.   :heartbreak:  :awesome_for_real:

I bombed the hell outta that first test because: I had no clue you could leave the circle and I didn't know you could use abilities.

I am still completely clueless about this game. Even the wiki isn't much help, and I hate to monopolize the TS channel asking stupid newbie questions. Stuff I would like to know-

When do I get another frame?
Which planet should I unlock first?
Do I have to grind up a bunch of mastery before I can buy other weapons from the marketplace?
Should I grind everything to 30 before moving on?
Which missions are most solo-friendly? Will the missions change on the planets, or does each sector always have the same mission type?

I feel like I am beating my head against the wall and not seeing much progress for it. I fail almost every mission type except defense or extermination, which leaves me with a tiny pittance for my trouble. It is discouraging.

Addressing your questions in order:

Another frame can be either be bought from the cash shop, or you can kill a boss multiple times to get the helm, chassis, and system blueprint.  It's a random drop (of the 3), but it normally doesn't take too long to get all parts.  You construct these parts and then buy the frame blueprint from the market.  Budget out about 60-100k credits for this, and you'll likely need to farm some building material.  

The issue becomes, what kind of frame do you want?  Do you want big DPS numbers? Tanking? Utility? Rhino is decent DPS/utility and great survivability. It's pretty much what Excalibur would be if it were designed by non-idiots.  Easily farmable. Nothing we've tried to farm thus far has been really that difficult.  Some bosses are harder than others.  So it really just depends on what you'd like to do.

Planet unlocks can be gotten from beating bosses.  We can do this at any time really.  But Venus/Mars should be easy first unlocks.

There are a lot of weapons you can get with zero mastery, there are some gated at 1,  more gated at 4, and various others gated beyond that. Latron is a great rifle and it's zero mastery to use. A Bolto is a good sidearm and can build off your Lato once you're done with it.  Also, zero mastery.

It's best to get shit to 30 before dumping it.  Once you've got a frame you won't insta-die in, we can do Kappa (a mobile defense) to grind up weapons if you need to finish leveling something off.  It's best not to be rushed into Kappa, because I don't think it gives you a good feel for the game.

Exterminate are the easiest missions.  The rest have various amounts of solo-ability. I wouldn't even attempt the following solo: survival, defense, mobile defense, excavation, interception.

I'll take a shot, but I have only been playing a week now... but I like the depth of this game so I been paying a lot of attention to things.

1. You aren't going to like this... but you have to either buy a frame with real money platinum ...or grind 3 types of blue prints for the frame and then farm credits for the frame blueprint. In essence, you have to kill the boss who drops the frame piece blueprints you want multiple times for all three pieces: Helmet, Systems, Chassis. For example, to get Valkyr, you kill Alad V for drops (all praise RNGesus). You need all three pieces to fill the actual frame blueprint you buy off the market. So you get the helmet and then need the mats to build that... which takes a rare drop piece along with other mats. I think the helms take a neural sensor which is a bitch to get to drop at times - other pain in the ass is Control Module mats (which these mats don't drop on the lower planets so if you don't have up to Uranus done, hope you have platinum). Do that for the other pieces and once you get those done, buy the frame blueprint (25k credits on the market) and get an orokin cell to drop because the frame bp needs one of those two. Then it is a 72 hour construction time for the frame. 12hours for each piece.

TLDR; farm piece blueprints for specific frame - build all 3 - buy main frame BP from market for 25k credits - build frame - wait 72 hours. Helmet+Chassis+Systems+Orokin Cell = frame. Farming times will vary.

2. Unlock whichever you prefer. Planet unlock tree here (http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Planets). Mercury gets you both Mars and Venus branches.

3. Certain weapons will have mastery rank requirements, yes. Mastery Rank goes up only as you rank up different frames and weapons and complete new missions on new planets... If you are maxxed out on those and replaying the same missions to farm stuff, you'll be stuck ranking it up. You can replay the same missions over and over, but you will need new weapons to advance mastery rank. That said, there are a lot of weapons you can get at mastery rank 2 - the boltor is pretty nice and is the regular braton. The really crazy shit requires higher mastery though.

4. Yes, grind everything to 30 for the mastery rank increases. I made the mistake of taking the bow and throwing knives in the training mission... pretty much sucked till I built a braton. The knives are ok... but the bow is just a sniping weapon. However, I maxxed the braton and built a boltor and intermittently played with the mk paris. Finally ranked it all way and sold it. Only sell stuff after you max it out for the mastery I say! but yeah... It pays off to grind everything to 30, as unfun as that may get.

5. Solo friendly... Exterminate missions I like because there are a set number of enemies so you know what is what. I also like sabotage missions because you have a single goal to take out a target and get your ass out. Capture missions are doable, but you have to take care because those chucklefucks run and run fast through a shit ton of enemies so catching them can be tedious and your chance of losing them is high. Rescue is hit or miss with me. I don't care for them and they can take a long as time, but they are also doable. Defense and Mobile Defense I have yet to complete solo... ever. Assassination is a boss fight which you can solo, but you need a ton of modded out gear.

I don't have a clan and mostly run PuGs which when trying to complete planets is frustrating as all hell. I am stuck on Phobos and Sedna because there is one mission in the branch and no one plays it (mainly because it is a shitty rescue mission). I will try with different frames once they get built though... (have Valkyr, Rhino, and Nyx being built currently).

Control modules become less of an issue if you get dragged through a couple low level tower missions.  It was a struggle for the first few, but now I have like 70 unused.

Void Tower is invite only and me without a clan means that ain't happening unless someone blindly sends me an invite (happened all of 3 times so far). I balked at each one because I had no idea what it was and nothing at level 30. Silly me.

You get tower keys often from rotation rewards in earth's Cabria excavation mission. You can get up to tower III keys there.

More detail here:

http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Void_Keys

That said, playing this game without a clan is madness.

What Engels said.  Playing without at least one other regular player is madness and will likely burn you out on the game.  Realistically you need at least 4 total to see the actual  harder content.  The game gets fairly rough at the upper end. 

Void Towers are also another source of weapons, warframes (the prime variants of both), and credits.  They take more effort, require organized people and specific frames for specific mission types, and are extremely prone to RNG, moreso than the bosses elsewhere.  While they're considered endgame content, they can be done at just about any level since the keys have varying level ranges.

Way, don't be afraid to ask questions in teamspeak, we don't mind answering them, although I'll personally likely only end up confusing you since I'm bad at explaining things.  The start of the game is extremely rough without friends, because you start out really underpowered.  The starting weapons and frames are pretty shitty, your mods are underleveled, and you don't have a sentinel or kubrow.  This is stuff that all fixes itself fairly quickly, but it can lead to a bad first experience if you're by yourself.

Part of the problem has also been that we haven't been including you in things.  That's my bad for part of it.  We've only had a small limited group with a smallish window to play together in the last week or so.  I'll try to peel off the next few times you're on to help you move forward.  I have a ton of stuff that's low level that I need to rank up anyhow.

And I'll need to level Trinity, Valkyr and Frost (when I build it, goddamn neural sensors).  Definitely see if you can pull someone into a group before you start something up.  Also, in group things tend to go a lot faster, so you'll end up getting more exp, credits, mods, and components.

Although definitely get someone more experienced than just myself.  I'm still shitty.  :awesome_for_real:

Oh I should also note, be wary of void tower missions for a few days.  They broke some things in some completely terrible ways in the last patch, most of which result in you not getting paid or rewards.

I should probably also mention that after you finish the initial story, the game doesn't really have any real structure whatsoever.  You can do things in whatever order you want, farm whatever you want, and level whatever you want.  You can be jumped forward to higher planets by someone taking you to the preceding planet's boss fight.  Once you have a planet unlocked, anyone can take you to any mission they have unlocked in that system, and it'll unlock for you after.  If you don't have the planet unlocked, you can still go, it just won't unlock.  It's extremely friendly to players that way.

If we're intending to level, we usually go to the Kappa mission on Sedna, which is a level 20ish mobile defense mission that isn't too hard and throws a rediculous number of mobs at you.  Otherwise we do Cambria for the reasons Engels mentioned.  Basically just speak up when you log on, and we can probably get people together to do one or the other pretty easily if nothing else.

^ ^ Previous posts are good advice. 

I played quite awhile solo and progressed along pretty easily - up to a certain tipping point in the planetary progression.  Don't feel bad about jumping into PUG's for quest objectives, farming, alerts etc.  Caveat my opinions come from when I was playing regularly, which was right before Kubrows, but a certain amount of leaching / drafting off of higher level players was an accepted practice.  As long you're not being a complete boat anchor and running to odd parts of the map or getting killed repeatedly people are pretty cool with you just tagging along and getting the rewards.  If you can stand the environment in chat (and can work with the shitty chat commands) absolutely hang out in in the appropriate chat tab and ask for invites, join farming groups, get a taxi to an event etc.

I'd try and move through the planetary progression and unlocks as much as you can based on level / weapons / frames / mods allow.  When you get stuck or bored (or any downtime really) get into a PUG Survival mission and play as long as you can for better rewards.  See above above about tagging along behind higher level players.  Farming and grinding is a decent chunk of the game and just slogging out a grip of Survival missions is a good way to build up resources and mods as you progress.  Playing even Mercury or Venus to 20+ minutes can be quite worthwhile, and many times there are higher level frames in there levelling or farming and you can jump in and contribute.  Check the wiki; if there's a specific frame you want spend a few PUG games farming the blue prints.  if there's an alert with a reward that's especially juicy jump into chat and check for PUGs looking to run it or get a taxi to a certain area.  Mods are a large part of your effectiveness and the best way to get them is just run a lot of missions.  After you get a frame or two levelled, some of the core mods, and some decent weapons you can try and PUG some void missions or Nightmare runs and get some higher level rewards.

Just my opinion - but if there's something you really want and you have the means - just spend the RL cash.  I haven't spent a ton of money on Warframe, but I have definitely spent more than I have in any other game that has micro-transactions / cash shops and I don't feel like a cheese dick about it.  If you get a "gift of the lotus" for a decent chunk off of platinum, go for it, and then use the plat to buy a new frame.

I got the 75% platinum discount offer when I rejoined and Googling it looked like that offer wasn't that common so I went ahead and got the big pack. I found this article (http://www.themittani.com/features/warframe-spending-your-platinum) about what to spend platinum on and cross-checking things it still seems pretty accurate.

So far I've only spent some plat on the cheap starter frames I didn't have so I would have something to level up when I got tired of my Mag or ran out of revives on it and the Carrier companion though I'm not sure I like how it floats behind me. Basically just about everything in this game is intentionally designed to be visually distracting* and cause as much motion sickness/eye strain as possible and the way the carrier moves behind me distracts my left peripheral vision so I may remove it.

* Except for the most important stuff like when your air is about to run out or your mission timer is about to expire

Agreed, I toned some of it down in settings.  Absolutely turn off motion blur.  And 75% off?  Score.

I thought that was a myth.

This is one of the first f2p games I actually gave developers money for because I felt like I owed it to them after like 100 hours played.

The tutorial version of the mission to kill Vor doesn't drop the Mars nav fragment, just the Venus one so I've been playing all this time without access to the Mars components :oh_i_see:

The newer planet unlock system is honestly pants on head retarded, and a great deal less intuitive than the old star maps that they used to have.  I'm not entirely sure why they went down this road other than "because ps4".

I also like the old system map better. It looked better and had a better UI (I hate the spinning radial menu thing) but yeah lol console UI.

And just to be clear for any newbies reading just do the Vor mission again and you'll get the Mars fragment.

They went down that road because shiny and next gen consoles.

It does look really cool, but it's actually more confusing than the old chart was. Worse, veteran players can't help you because their shit was already unlocked and they have no clue how to tell you to progress.

Nevertheless, once unlocked you won't have to worry about it again, but they do add new nav segments here and there as new features are added. Also, unlocking all nodes on a planet will give you the option of doing nightmare missions on random selected nodes. They are NOT easy, so be warned. They do give random dual stat mods that are very desirable for more advanced warframe builds.

PuGs for the most part work out pretty well when I get people around my mastery level. Otherwise I am basically just chasing behind the higher level guy who has managed to wipe out the whole zone in front of me with warp speed that I have yet to figure out. Those I don't really mind when I am just working on unlocking planets - I just see it as another block opened on the map and one step closer to the boss and another planet. I do sorta mind it when the boss fight comes up and I barely get to the area before the boss is down. I never even saw Alad V until the 3rd time I ran that (fuck you Neural Sensor drop) mission.

Sometimes the synergy is there but mostly it is just a higher level facerolling the zone and me trailing behind with the vacuum.

This also allows you to deploy extractors on the planet.  You can buy the blueprint in the market.  (Only worry about the Titan Extractors at first.)  Extractors give free resources.  How many you can have depends upon your rank, and whether you've bought a Founder's or Prime package.

To unlock all the nodes you'll need to build an Archwing.  The initial quest unlocks at Rank 2 (I believe), but you will need help as it's an excavation mission that is a lot tougher than the level range would suggest.

Question about Mag and Corpus. I keep reading that Mag owns Corpus thanks to Shield Polarize but that doesn't seem to work so well for me as few if any will die when I use it, unlike when I use Pull where most will die. Do I just not have the right mods for it yet (e.g. I only have one Power Strength mod) or am I not using the power properly?

It's more that you aren't likely dealing with them at high enough level where their shields are a pain in the ass (high 20+).  You're probably also lacking mods to make it hit in a larger radius and harder.  Lantyssa would know more than me on this though.

Okay that makes sense. I'm still putzing around the low level planets. I just unlocked Jupiter (and Mars :oh_i_see:) last night.

This is true for a lot of abilties, btw.  Some of them seem really anemic without Intensify, Stretch, and/or Continuity mods to increase power, range, and duration respectively.  Unfortunately, most of these are rare mods.   Most of us have tend to have extras though, so come bug us. 

I thought shield polarize kills Corpus shields, which leaves them with a tiny bit of health to shoot once or twice. So it doesn't actually kill them, but makes it easy to pop them off... Though I could be wrong since I didn't like Mag at all.

Just use Rhino and all your problems are solved. :grin:

36 more hours till that happens... along with Valkyr and Nyx actually.  :awesome_for_real:

It also does AoE damage based on how much was drained.

I feel like I made a bit of progress yesterday (unlocked 3 more segments on Earth), but this is extremely newbie unfriendly. The client doesn't tell you shit, the map is wonky, and a lot of the mission types seem like they are impossible to solo (and there is no way to tell without spending 15 minutes getting indecently assaulted). Even if I wanted to spend some money, I have no earthly idea what I would spend it on, what is useful, etc. The dev team is doing themselves a disservice by making it so inaccessible.

Yeah, that's assuming I can get the boss to drop something other than Rhino helmets for me (3 in a row so far).

Yes the game is very unfriendly for newbie soloers. One trick I use to unlock segments is find the ones with "open squads" and try to join. There's a (small) chance that you'll join a game in progress or just starting. I'm also leveling up a Loki, which I bought for 75 plat, to make the Spy missions easier.

Nyx will not solve all your problems.  I love Nyx, but it is not the most solo friendly warframe since it's really really really squishy.

Ahh, the more ya know. I have Mag ranked 30 and never much cared for any of her powers outside of Pull.

This is me with Oberon... I keep getting these random drops: chassis x5, helmet x6. Not one god damn systems yet.

Got Rhino in 4 runs, 3 runs for Valkyr and 6 for all of Nyx. And after leveling mostly with Mirage, I am used to the squishy so Nyx should not be too unfamiliar.

Mag in a nutshell: 1 + 4 with the occasional 2

Pull - Good damage, awesome crowd control
Shield Polarize - I use it to recharge my shields.  If you get a bunch of things nearby with shields you will drain then damage them, but it only does the damage of the best one.  Nova's skill is far, far, far superior.
Bullet Attractor - Only useful against bosses and big mobs with lots of heath such as Heavy Gunners and Bombards, and only if you can't kill them quickly.  Some bosses it's good, some it's terrible.  Supposedly glaives will bounce around inside endlessly.
Magnetize AoE - A really good skill with some range mods in it.  Levitates everything and does significant damage.

Most missions I only use Pull (1), which is fine since it's so awesome and significantly buffed from when I originally played. Crush (4) has such a long cast time that I rarely use it when playing solo.

Wow apparently I have to unlock Saturn -> Phobos -> Europa to get a control module to build the Rhino Systems whose blueprint drops on Venus.

Get someone to take you to T1 missions. Control modules drop like rain on the plain in Spain there.

Nyx will solve all your problems...IF...played correctly. The issue with Nyx is she requires corrupted mods to really shine and those aren't easy to get, particularly overextended. If Baro coughs up a primed stretch that might solve some of that problem, but it's a big 'if'.

As for squishy, NyxP has significantly more mitigation and QT/primed flow is a huge survivability boost, but we're back into exotic mods and advanced builds.

I guess the point here is 'frames evolve significantly as you expand your mod base. Don't fall for the conventional wisdom you see spouted about on the forums. A couple of exotic mods like corrupted, nightmare, or primed can totally change how you play a particular warframe.

Been there... I bit the pillow and bought 3 modules with my remaining plat. However, last night I solo'd a T1 exterminate and got 2 to drop so that is doable.

The kicker is that eventually you'll be swimming in control modules.

Yeah... But I was unhappy with Mag and not being able to switch out starter frames was a slap in the face. So I threw some money at the game and bought Mirage who I truly love to play even though she is made of paper. I have no regrets putting $20 down for this game. But the extra I used to buy slots and a few resources that I couldn't farm because they were locked out for me. Getting through some planets like Sedna and Phobos with PuGs is frustrating and at most times impossible. However, knowing I can solo T1 stuff for some hard to get resources is a nice confidence booster. And on that note, the mobs in T1 missions seem very squishy to me for some reason. The only thing that really beat the shit outta me were the laser orbs because I forgot about the trap pressure plates. Once I noticed where they were, it was pretty easy...easier than the waves of grineer and corpus I get on other exterminate missions.

Tower 1 stuff is weak.  It's a 10-20 area, so it's fairly safe compared to some of the planets.

Mirage is awesome and become my favorite frame.  Try to get enough duration and efficiency mods to keep her clones up all the time as they draw a lot of fire.  Between that and the proper weapon choice she kills most things too quickly for them to be a threat.

Mirage can be very tough, but, again, it's how you build her.

The key to not getting OHK'd as Mirage is eclipse. Keep it up at ALL times no matter what. Aside from just not getting shot (the clones take the arrows), it gives you damage resistance. Add power strength mods and you can hit 95% damage resistance when standing in shadow.

Can't find shadows to stand in? Well, that's balance (sorta). Mirage is about speed and violence of action, but knowing the maps well is a big part of playing her at the high difficulties. Just remember where the shadowing hidey holes are as you learn the maps.

Lastly, weapons with recovery procs help Mirage (and anyone else without build in healing) a lot. The Vaykor Marelok, Burston Prime with Gilded Truth, and a few others I can't think of at the moment will continually top up your health as you use them. Very handy on Mirage, especially as there are five of you shooting at stuff. Same goes for melee and lifestrike, if that's your thing.

Just a brief note about Mirage: while it is as awesome as Lant says, its also extremely visually spammy, what with your clones and all your guns going off and your disco ball, so if you have any trouble focusing on a battle due to visual stimulus overload and/or being 'navigationally challenged' (that'd be me), Mirage can be a bit of a Migraine.

My favorite frame thus far would have to be Banshee or Zephyr. Banshee's Silence skill is fantastic for handling a group of mobs you've wandered into. They all cower in fear for 2-4 seconds giving you enough time to dispatch the dangerous ones in the cluster. Zephyr's 3rd skill, Turbulence is a portable shield that deflects incoming fire that makes the frame quite survivable. Later on with the use of what's called a Syndicate Mod specifically made for Zephyr, your Turbulence skill turns into a speed boost not only to runspeed but to projectile speed, making your guns with ballistic travel time require far less leading.

Are you playing on PC or PS4?

This is the politically correct way of asking if you are a dirty worthless thumb aimer with no more right to live on God's green earth than a weasel.

 :grin:

Actually, if you're having the control module issue on PC, just friend me, and we'll solve that.  It is a pain in the ass at first, but it's easily solved, and we're all very helpful if you let us.

Meanwhile, I'm just praying for a sale.  I want more slots. Lots  of weapons I want to try.  I need advice for a decent shotgun and easily farmed secondary (I haven't found a secondary that I like yet).  Trinity seems like it be more effective if I had a closer range setup.

In reality, it's shorthand for saying, "stop being a filthy console gamer, we can help jump you forward pretty easily".

Yah, but sunk-cost.  If they've already dropped cash on the PS4 version, does it let them use that character on the PC? I have no idea.  But if you have a gaming PC that can run this, run this on the PC.  OR DON'T.  

There was a way to transfer from PC to console, but I don't think it goes the other way around, sadly.  At one point, they were promising cross play, when the patches lined up properly, but I dunno if they gave up on that dream or not.

That's a negative ghost rider... pattern only works one way. I already looked into it. I already have my stuff on PS4 and kinda like being able to sit on my couch - though I do miss the hell outta my keyboard and mouse.

I haven't had a gaming PC for over a year now.

PS4 for me, although I haven't played in a few months.

Frost/Rhino prime, Nekros, and Nova.

Have you built the Hek? I'm finding it quite satisfying on my trinity..  though working towards trying the phage one day.

Yah, I might just go for the hentai gun.  We picked up some pubbie in a boss farm yesterday that was just wrecking with it.

Mutagen mass seems like a pain in the ass to farm, however.

I second the Hek.  It's the shotgun you always see me using.  You should even be high enough rank to actually buy the pattern now.  Mutagen masses aren't too bad to get from infested invasions.

Infested invasions, or if you're really desperate, the Clan Dojo has a print to turn samples into masses.  Of course you have to join a Clan that has it researched, so not always viable.

This game needs a dependency management tool :awesome_for_real: :oh_i_see:

How does the stuff in the Dojo work? How do you access it? Is it limited run stuff, or can I make as many copies as I want?

Basically clans research blueprint patterns.  Ours has everything that's current already done though.  All you need to do with them is buy them and make them same as the blueprints from the market.  Be aware that almost everything from the dojo requires a forma (which mostly drops from the void, and does more than just this, but I don't want to get into that right now), and mutagen masses/detonite ampules/fieldron, which are a subcombine or farmable from the invasion missions.  I've probably botched this explanation pretty badly.

edit:  oops, forgot dojo access.  So what you need to do is make the dojo key if you haven't already.  It takes 12 hours to cook.  Once that's done, if you're high enough rank within the clan, you can then go either to the navigation screen and select dojo (which just opens the clan menu) or the clan menu, and select enter dojo from there.  If you aren't, ask one of us to go into it and invite you, from there, you can trade with people or buy the blueprints.

At least the Tenno dojo stuff doesn't seem to require anything beyond having a forma (and the occasional Argon Crystal).  The infested requires mutagen mass, corpus requires feldiron, and grineer requires detonite injectors.

This might help: research wiki page. (http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Research)

Yeah so I got into a pub on an alert mission with some guys who steam rolled things (I got like 10 kills). After that was done one of them started a vote for a T1 Defense mission which I went along with figuring I would continue to sponge off those guys and get some modules. Somehow the 3 of us that went into the mission all managed to die on the 3rd wave. There was something that one shot me and I have no idea how the other two died. I revived just for the heck of it and proceeded to try and stay alive with my primary being a newly purchased unmodded Branton. Somehow I managed to clear the remaining two and half waves by myself with my gimpy gun (fortunately my Pull is at max rank) and we got out of there with our rewards including my 6 control modules.

Probably a bombard.  Corrupted can be based on any Grineer or Corpus faction mob.  Bombards are still the most likely to one-shot you.

Tower Defense and Survival can be rough for an undergeared character simply because of how much is thrown at you.  Doable though as you saw if your skills are up to the task.  Grats on your control modules.

Fuck those dudes, man. Hate those mobs with a passion. And those Grineer snipers that have me realize my shields are somehow gone in 2 seconds and I am going to be bleeding out soon.

So yesterday I got three new frames done in my foundry to now play with. Farming AHOY!

This weekend I'm gonna have Mag Prime, Nova Prime, Hydroid and Saryn ready to play. I'm so stoked! Also, great job on managing that defense on your own Trippy. That much have been quite the fight!

You're going to love Saryn. She's...ah, you'll see.

Although, one caveat. The syndicate mod that applies a healing effect to Saryn's Molt should be considered mandatory. It is just that good. Keep it in mind when you choose your syndicate to build rep with.

NovaP is my guilty pleasure. If you just like to watch things explode in massive chain reactions, then taking Nova to an infested mission is just pure bliss. Booooom!

There's a couple "Gift of the Lotus" missions up.  They have a 4 day duration, so no rush. You can do both if you're rank 5 or higher.  25 gold fusion cores from each (RIP my credits).  I guess this is some sort of apology for the messed up loot tables? 

Has the overall fusion core drop rate been nerfed?  I never seem to get them anymore.

Dunno about you but I been getting silver and bronze ones like ammo drops. I have 89 bronzes 40 silvers and 5-7 golds. Rank progression has applied the brakes on my character currently. I haven't built new weapons since I got the dual zoran and my boltor built. I am going to try and farm some credits to build some other stuff... but I do like the feel of the boltor. I just farmed enough to build my carrier and have 3 frames sitting sub lvl 10 and oberon is finally being built. I'll probably farm for saryn this weekend since I already have her systems - but unlocking planet sectors has dried up for everything but survivals, bosses, and defenses (mobile and regular). I hit a good window with the early planets, but now that I am on Phob and Sedn... no one is around anymore. Even when I start the sector, I am solo till I die.

Hopefully leveling Rhino to 30 will help. I really want to play with Valkyr, but lack any healing mods to make her fully self-sufficient. I upped the armor and HP with mods, but she still gets plowed since hp doesn't regen automatically like shields. Someday I guess.

Valkyr doesn't need healing mods.  You build for permanent Hysteria and she heals herself with each hit.

I JUST unlocked that ability last night. I had no clue she healed herself while beating on mobs. I liked the berserker roles in other games so I figured she'd be a good fit, but man I took a beating on some missions. Burned through her revives pretty quick mainly because I couldn't loot enough red balls.

My problem with Valkyr is that you have to enjoy the claw-style melee attacks, since that's what you'll primarily be using. I'm not a huge fan, but it scales with weapon damage, so if you throw like a Scindo or Scindo Prime on there, you'll smash stuff pretty good.

All I need is one piece of Vauban to finish him, two more Mesa pieces, and the rest of the parts for Nova Prime and Loki Prime and I'll have every single warframe. Still a crapton of weapons to do, though.

She only heals while in Hysteria, which she is also invulnerable in.  Mana becomes much more of an issue than health once you're able to keep it up all the time.

Well I think I've "re-integrated" after my hiatus but things seem out of a little out of wack.  I completed the Kubrow quest, the initial archwing thing, Once Awake and Stolen...Dreams (?) quests.  It never made me do a newbie tutorial, which I heard you had to complete in some instances to access all your gear.  Or maybe I do need to do it and just don't know what I'm looking at.  I went and (re) killed Vor on Mercury, and killed Jackal.  As far as I can tell all of my planetary unlocks are still present and I seem to have access to all my frames, weapons and mods.

Other than the fact that some of my frames have some freed up points for mods due to the power skill change everything seems to be the same.  But when I try and get into any sort of multiplayer game it's a bust.  Right off I wanted to try and complete an Interception or five for keys so I can try for a Malignant Force drop from IV (I missed the event last time around) but I have never been able to get into a group.  I was told that only two instances are really ever run now (Stephano and whatever Pluto is) but I sat in queue for 30 minutes the past two nights and zip.  When I was playing before there were always PUGs going on, from Mercury farming Survival runs to people finishing up the map, to boss farming runs.  I've been playing for about a week and have run into one other player in a random match and he was a level 1.  I'm starting to think I missed something that allows me to play with other people.

I have a bunch of frames maxed out (Mag, Frost / Prime, Rhino, Volt, Hydroid, Loki, Banshee, Saryn, Ash, Trinity, Oberon, Valkyr, Vauban) and a Boltor Prime, a triple forma'ed Soma, a crap ton of melee weapons, a bunch of secondaries blah blah so I'm not struggling through matches really (I'd like to try a T IV, but see previous about keys) but I prefer to play Vauban and he's not the strongest solo frame, depending on the type of mission.  I bought Limbo with a "gift of the Lotus" plat purchase and have decided to try and level him up, along with my new Kryst.

Make sure you are set to "Matchmaking Public" and in Options -> Gameplay check your matchmaking settings (Region, Allow Invites, Matchmaking Ping Limit).

If you do make it into a public match, be careful with taking Limbo.  A lot of players don't understand him, so they freak right out and get mad.  He's super useful if you're with a group that does know about his powers though.

The key to getting the most out of Valkyr is to recognize she's built around effective health and melee.

Her core mods are going to be vitality, steel fiber, and rage.

You need health, hence vitality and maybe vigor if you can fit it in.

You'll need steel fiber to boost armor. She has the highest armor rating in the game, so make use of it. Just standing around with maxed steel fiber, she's at 75% resistance. With warcry, she can hit 95% resistance, which I believe is the cap. This is your effective health pool (since she otherwise has low to middlin' stats).

Rage. This isn't particularly east to get, but is a must have for Valkyr. This is where your energy comes from. Take health damage, gain energy. This powers hysteria, warcry and all the rest.

Anything else you do is personal preference, but duration is popular and efficiency isn't a bad thing, though there are a couple of schools of thought on this (long duration vs. spamming as needed).

Other than the Rage mod, I have everything else on this list. Vit is almost capped and Steel is 4 dots away. I was fortunate enough to be on when an alert popped and picked up the Rejuv aura mod so that is helping. She is much better now that I have adjusted my playstyle around Hysteria.

Now if I could get off Phobos...  :oh_i_see:

Can't 100% confirm (I'm still at work) but I might have an extra Rage.  When I get home I'll check and give you an update.  If I've got a spar you can certainly have it.

I bought one of the 2-1 mod packs. I know they're terrible value but had some plat and wanted to see how it worked so the 2 for 1 special was a trigger. Also mod drops seem much more stingy than I remember. Got rage and it certainly is the card that made Valkyr the fun I thought she could be.

I don't really get how player trading works, especially when people say "you can get that card for less plat".

I'm sorry it's Blind Rage I have two of.  My bad.

If you don't have it, rage drops from grineer napalms and the occasional orokin container in the void. It ain't easy to get.

Also, Valkyr's damage while under hysteria is influenced by both power strength and some weapon stats--namely base damage, critical rate, critical damage, and...I think that's it. Berzerker can influence attack speed IF it's already up when you activate hysteria. The stacks can't renew under hysteria however, and once they decay that's it until you're out. Warcry does buff attack speed while under hysteria, so keep it up for maximum mayhem.

All this essentially means that you want weapons with high crit rates. Dual Ichors, Dual Cleavers (especially with the Steel Meridian mod), the Atterax, and the heavy weight champeeeen Scindo Prime all maximize use of berserker and give hysteria a very significant boost in damage output. Honorable mention goes to the garden variety Scindo, Jet Kitty (Jat Kittag), Galatine, and Dragon Nikana for high base damage, despite low crit rates and little berserker utility. ScindoP is number one by a rather considerable margin however.

Yeah, I play Valkyr a lot.

Is Melee mode useful at all? I rarely see other players use it. And I'm bummed they took out the old parrying style since I can no longer pretend I'm playing a sci-fi version of GunZ unless I stick to melee-only mode.

Edit: another question. I was playing an Extraction mission earlier today and somebody was planting a "laser wire" device between two close parallel walls that was shredding mobs as they went through. What were they using to plant those?

I do main melee on Valkyr for when I'm not in Hysteria and for fun.  It's not practical on a high-level map with the less durable frames.

I'm going to guess it was Vauban with one of the syndicate cards.  He can throw out these balls that do... something, and the card creates a beam between them.

I don't have the mod yet but from what I read Lantyssa's answer seems most likely.  Vauban's first power is a Tesla ball that sticks to...well pretty much anything, and then zaps mobs that get close.  One of the Syndicate augment mods makes it so that when you place more than 1 ball they interconnect with like a live wire type connection that damages anything that crosses it.

Yeah, that's Vaubon and I don't recall the name of the ability, but the beam is from the syndicate mod.

If you play Valkyr and hang around with Vaubon resign yourself to having these stuck to your butt through most of the game. Vaubon players find this amusing and since Valkyr is usually in someone's face anyway it does make a twisted kind of sense to stick them to her. Also, kubrows are a target for them since they tend to free range and often are attacking enemies at short range.

That....is amazingly innovative.  :drill:

For the first, melee is decent for low-end content, but aside from Valkyr with Hysteria, melee is almost always inferior to using a gun. In high-end void stuff (Tower III and IV, certain derelict missions), "almost always" becomes "always." But if you're not doing that, melee is fun to bust out every now and again, and getting a good coptering weapon (Dual Zoren, Dual Ichor, Glaive) is handy.

For the second, it's probably Vauban planting Teslas on the wall, while using a Syndicate mod that makes a beam appear between nearby teslas that shreds enemies that touch it.

I don't normally equip melee since I prefer shooting the bejeezus out of stuff, but it can be very effective with the right weapons and stances. Some of these can do shocking amounts of damage very quickly.

Since the heavy weapons buff, the better ones can really bring the pain, particularly with Cleaving Whirlwind. Combine CW with a well-modded Scindo Prime and you'll be seeing 10k+ hits regularly. Galatine and the Jet Kitty aren't far off that mark either (though the Jat Kittag uses different stances).

Crimson Dervish (rare long sword stance) gives equipped combos 300% damage. This makes any long sword formidable and something like the Dakra Prime with its relatively high base damage and ability to hit multiple targets truly devastating.

Then there are the glaives and when thrown they can nibble around 5 digit damage output.

Then you have channeling and Saryn with her contagion melee buff and Trinity with link and...well...you get the idea: you can do a lot of damage with melee if done correctly.

The main issue with melee isn't so much the damage it does, but the fact you have to get in the enemies' face and risk damage yourself. Many have control moves if confronted at close range and at higher level they can hit really hard, so it's risky if you're not Valkyr or Trinity.

Well now that I have a handle on Valkyr I just stomped through Uranus straight to the boss fight, solo. As long as I don't get RNG fucked with energy... that is the only thing keeping me in check.

Question: I've been running the "stealth" missions (Spy) because it's a good source of Affinity and on the higher level planets there's a chance at rare mod drops - do Kubrows interfere with stealthing / kills in anyway?  I'm still using my Carrier mainly for the vacuum effect, but I've notice the "chance to freeze mobs" mod going off when I'm stealthing around.  I'm not sure if it alerts mobs or not...any of the same kind thing happen with Kubrows?

I kitted up Banshee with my level 9 Dread and my level 2 Kryst.  Hello Eximus Squad.  Hadn't ever seen them before.  It didn't go well for me.

I've been trying to use Shade in the spy missions. Now I remember why I quit using it. Damned thing never works. My stealth kubrow is pretty good about stealthing you when enemies get close, but haven't tried him in a spy mission yet.

I've been using Banshee in spy missions without any companion. Just simpler. I don't think the sentinel freeze aura alerts enemies, but it capping off a sweeper round sure does. I've been leaving them behind just because of this sort of bad behavior.

I did see a gameplay vid with a Helios that was firing off deconstructor rounds at the grineer sentry bots without alerting them. Weird, but it is considered a melee weapon, so dunno.

I use a Helios most of the time and my kubrows are all in stasis so I haven't taken one on a spy mission yet.

Generally I wait the mobs out and shoot them from a distance with a weapon that will one-shot them.  Though Corpus and Grineer will usually attack instead of going to an alarm panel, the stupid sentries set it off immediately if not one-shot.  So they get my Snipetron or Vay-lock.

A suppressed Vaykor Marelok is ideal in these missions.

Two words: silent explosions.

Kubrows - are they vital at any point? I dislike them a lot for some reason. I know they will go gathering drops and bring them around, at least I think I saw one do that. But I really have to side with Ordis here....they are just not for me unless I will ultimately NEED one. I have an egg and the blueprint for the core to incubate one, but I really have no desire.

I built a carrier mostly for vacuum because the shotgun is lulz unless I am on lower levels. But for a companion, I'd rather a sentinel than a dog.

You do not need a Kubrow.  They're a prestige item and very much a time and credit sink, too.  Only wild kubrow collect items and bring them back to the nest.

Situationally they are useful.  One constantly restores shield damage.  Another is always digging for loot, including ammo and mana balls.  The one that chases VIP targets is pretty awesome on capture missions.  With a maxed out mod they can all have a 90% chance of unlocking a locked container.

Wild kubrow are interesting to watch if you've got a few minutes to stand around. They do gather up drops from grineer they eliminate (they're pretty good at this...) and take them back to their nests. There was a way to exploit this behavior with Nekros to farm for mods/eggs, but I don't recall the details. Something to do with which nest they brought stuff back to, destroying the other (they're usually in pairs), then farming the continuing spawn of kubrows from the surviving nest with desecrate.

Anyway, they're not necessary. They're very time and resource intensive. I have two of the four types (not much luck with eggs), and I like the stealth one quite a bit for excavations and maybe for spy missions (still need to test him out, but have an egg incubating, so all the pooches are on ice at present). They can be better than sentinels, but they'll consume a massive amount of time, credits, and cores to get them there. Many of their mods are 10 rank mods and cost multi-millions in credits and literally thousands of fusion cores to max out. Then there's the forma to cram all that stuff in. Lotta time. Lotta money. They can be extremely tough when paired with a Valkyr or Saryn, but you have to really like them to put the effort in.

Mine spend most of their time in stasis.

Man I hate capture missions. I can never run fast enough to catch those assholes as they weave through the map which are still fairly foreign to me. I am getting better, but still...

I don't think that would be enough for me to hatch out this egg though.

That makes me feel better because I played a few rounds with my new Kubrow, planning to level it (her?) up and wasn't impressed with the utility.  I've never been able to get away from just good ol' reliable Carrier with his vacuum skills and shotgun mods.  Hearing that they're nothing more than a core / cred sink kinda seals the deal on them; I am already in mad need of cores and cash for mod ranking.  Welcome to some solid stasis time furry goat dog.

Captures can suck but if you can get a decent weapon modded and ranked up a lot of times you can just open up on them and "kill" them before they start scampering.  Or you can try frames with CC or knockdown powers I guess.  I feel like a lot of F13'ers are EST but if you're around I'll be happy to run missions with you (I'm PST) look me up in game as "Mandelbrodt" or Steam ID "Flood"

Pull works wonders.

PS4 here... so yeah. And I have my boltor pretty well kitted out - not maxxed on everything and haven't tampered with it (forma/orokin cat). It rocks targets pretty quick. Problem is I can't not attract attention while I get close - there always seems to be 5 enemies patrolling around the target that alert him and start the movie chase scene.

Capture targets follow the same general rule as bosses as far as I remember.  Do not drop your sights over their marker if you're in the same room as them and they won't trigger immediately.  It's hard to do, especially if you're with others, but you can get closer to them that way if you're careful.

I have like 400 platinum, and am just starting out, what should I spend it on?

Initial platinum should be spend on warframe (hookers) and weapon slots (blow). These you can't get anywhere else, so get lots. Save a bit back in case you need an emergency reactor or catalyst, since those are hard to come by and are necessary for guns or 'frames you're serious about. Buying sentinels early on with plat isn't a bad idea, either. They're extremely expensive for new players and have a lot of utility. Moreover, any you purchase with plat come with their own slot and reactors and catalysts pre-installed. Not a bad deal for 75p.

As for capture targets, yeah, they're twitchy and quick on their feat. Bring fast warframes and high dps weapons to deal with them. Also, a durable warframe isn't a bad idea, since you might have to rush the target past a dozen or so of his (now pissed off) buddies. I generally use Mirage, Valkyr, Banshee or NovaP on cap missions.  All of these are fast moving 'frames with either massive firepower (Mirage, Nova), a high degree of control (Banshee, Nova), or just implacable and impossible to stop (Valkyr). High firepower accurate guns help a lot, especially if you get the drop on them. Usually, you can smokecheck them before they can react and hightail it to the shuttle (Banshee is particularly good at this).

Hookers and blow.

But really? I echo what is said just about everywhere: buy warframe and weapon slots first. You will need them eventually. Weapons slots are a little less for me since I only keep 1 or 2 of my favorites and cycle through the other slots after leveling other weapons to 30. Warframe slots because you just gotta collect em all!

After that? Buy yourself something pretty. Maybe a Orokin reactor or two and a catalyst (if those are on the ingame market...I can't recall right now)

Slots.

I got one of the founder packages and had a ton of plat from it.  Almost all of it has gone to inventory space.  A tiny bit has gone to reactors and catalysts for things I play the heck out of.

If you're thinking of dumping an item to free up space make sure to completely level it first.  It counts towards mastery the first time you level an item.

This is a whole lot of fun. I can see I am going to need to hook up with a clan soon.

Note that for slots you can buy them as needed. The game will even ask you if you try to buy something that needs a slot that you don't have if you want to buy the slot first.

Also if for some reason you really really hate your starter frame you can buy one of the other starter frames or Loki (which used to be a starter frame) for 75 platinum which is not a bad deal considering it comes with a slot for itself and a reactor (aka a "potato").

Edit: that slot buying thing I said above doesn't seem to work everywhere for some reason. I just tried to buy a secondary weapon without an open slot and it didn't give me the option to buy the slot first. Also the instructions on where to buy slots is confusing. It says to go to the Arsenal screen but what it really means is to go to the Inventory screen to buy slots.

Earlier in the thread I vaguely recall somebody mentioning a clan, unfortunately, I am having trouble finding the exact page and post. Who are we supposed to contact for a clan?

Engles777 is your best bet.

Though we're getting close to the 30 player limit for a Shadow Clan, so he may need to make some decisions there first.  I'm not sure what's needed to upgrade us a notch.

It only works when picking something up from the foundry.  The market doesn't let you by slots automatically, which is silly.

May I ask your in game names Lantyssa and Ard?  I can't seem to catch Engels.

Engels777 at that.  Stupid typo.

Ardh and KC-73-HQT-314.

We purged a few old accounts off the roster so we have room again now. We got Flood in, and there's room for Pennilenko and others. Just send me an email in game or friend me (already got you friended Pennilenko). I'll be on tonight, 7 pm PST-ish. You can also bug Lant aka KC and she'll see if someone's around to tag you.

Sent a friend request to Engels, as Noitek. 

Got the 75% discount on platinum today, the week I moved and am too broke to do anything with it, of course.  :why_so_serious:

I appreciated the mission runs, I gained quite a bit of xp. It's crazy how many undocumented mechanics are in this game. Sorry I had to bail. My wife wasn't feeling well and I didn't want to disrupt her sleep.

There's a lot of stuff going on under the hood.

The wiki is good for information on stuff like this, but it's hard to look it up when you don't know what you don't know.

Although they've degenerated some as the game has become more popular, the O-fficial forums are still a good resource for information. You just have to filter out the whining about everydamnedthing imaginable. To DE's credit, the worst offenders do get banned...eventually.

Oh, and there's some really cool stuff on the alphabets used in the game with full translators available. Also, lore discussions can be both fascinating and illuminating (assuming you ignore the obvious dumbshits). Unfortunately, there isn't too much to work with so the lore sub-community has been spinning its wheels for awhile.

Missions with no shields are :oh_i_see:

I did manage to barely escape with my last life as Loki, though :awesome_for_real:

Yeah I did my first nightmare the other day with a PuG. I went in with Rhino so not too bad, but man there was a lot of rezzing.

And I get a little miffed at the fucker(s) who just run through a zone to the goal and leave a shit ton of mobs in their wake, on alert and pissed off. So when my slow ass tries to catch up, I get stomped into the floor. I get the fact people want to max their time efficiency but I am a little tired of playing run through the zone and never seeing the boss fights or objectives. (and yes, I have learned to sprint and slide/helicopter for an added boost of speed - some maps I just have a hell of a time getting through all the twists).

Yeah my PuG had a Rhino too so he tanked going to the objective. On the way to extraction, though, we got in a bad spot and kept dying as a group and near the end I was the last one standing. It got really hairy when literally right at the end an alarm locked the door going to the extraction room and I had to disarm the alarm in a room full of mobs.

Sorry I missed this last night. I will check in tonight and see if you are on. Also, is anyone playing as 'a_grue'? I ask because I have a friend request from them and I do not know anyone by that name here.

I think lesion might be a_grue? I believe that's what he uses on Steam.

Yeah I recognize the name as an F13er but can't remember who it is. Trippy is usually right though  :grin:

He is indeed.

The first Tactical Alert stage (Tempo stance) was an interesting challenge for somebody who hasn't been (re)playing for very long. This last weekend was my first one since I've been playing where I've had a bunch of free time so I planned going into the weekend to try and PuG the first stage. Took a few attempts but finally managed to get it on a non-optimal Loki disarm build. I finished ranking up my Loki and then got a Trinity and ranked her up for the event though I wasn't comfortable playing her (seems to require a bunch of micro to stay alive) so I stuck with Loki for the attempts. Biggest challenge getting ready for the event was actually dealing with the game's cumbersome trading system. I ran out of money once from the trade tax and ran into the daily trade limit multiple times.

First attempt on a really ghetto Loki build* actually went pretty well given how little I was contributing until one of the players dropped after which we promptly fell part. The next 3 PuGs didn't go well though we almost did it one with only 3 people failing at like 96% on the last wave. The final attempt had a Trinity and a Nova and one more I can't remember and except for a sloppy first round it was pretty easy thanks to the Trinity and Nova.

Still don't understand why my first set of attempts required only 5 rounds at the last 2 needed 8 rounds. Also the 8 round versions started with enemies already spawned right when we appeared from the elevator while the 5 round versions gave us time to cap before enemies appeared.

* hadn't purchased any good mods yet from trade so only used what I had collected which wasn't a lot for that kind of build

Took the weekend and leveled Frost and Trinity and finished out Ash for shits and giggles.

I am still trying to figure out how guys just sprint through higher level zones like Europa and Pluto and Ceres. I try and I am dead in the first area with alarms and all sorts of shit going off. I am assuming they are forma's and modded out, but their shields and hp are about where mine are so I have no idea. Stealthing around as ash is ok, but I always get seen and burn through my energy smoke bombing my ass around the map only to run out right before I hit the extraction. At this point, I am just going to have to throw my hat in the ring and get a clan.

Just ran the Pluto Nightmare Alert for the Rending Strike mod on my gimpy Trinity which was :ye_gods: (no thanks to the fucked up UI which kept blocking the team status bar display with fucking popups). Fortunately we had a Rhino Prime to cover for my n00bieness with Trinity at the moment.

Edit: BTW any tips on getting Energy Vampire to land? I have a hard time with that one; seems like my aim has to be exact which is hard given how fast the game moves and lag issues.

For EV, I been just spamming it and strafing my reticle over the target till it lands. Seems the target has to be on the dot or else nothing.

Ard, finally a use for Hydroid.

http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Pilfering_Swarm

And it works on bosses. 

It also stacks with nekros, but it's still worse than nekros by itself since it requires you personally get the kill with that.

I have neither of those frames...yet. Though they will be a bitch to get unless I get into a useful group.

Or a PC.  :awesome_for_real:

Yeah, neither are easy to farm.  When ever the subject comes up it's met with "EH, Nekros isn't THAT useful", "Hydroid is useless anyhow", or "Gosh, I'm sleepy".

I got too much invested on the PS4 version unfortunately. And yeah... I heard it is a pain in the ass unless you find likeminded people who are farming it. I feel the same way about Ruk and Krel. Hyena pack was the most fun out of them all even though my groups died more to them than any other boss.

I'm mostly just sleepy.  I don't really have any problems  helping people get either of them.  The bigger issue with nekros is farming the parts for his keys, which requires running other derelict missions, but that can easily be done in parallel with doing the runs for mirage anyhow.

Time for three Hydroid one Nekros Alad V runs...

I'm out of plat anyhow.  :awesome_for_real:  Log in bonus needs to stop giving me companion exp.

The new Tactical Alert (https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/412135-pc-tactical-alert-ogma-elite/) is an Archwing mission :oh_i_see:

I can't even rank up my starter Archwing frame cause the "easiest" Archwing mission is an Interception mission which is seemingly impossible do with a minimally ranked Archwing and nobody plays it.

Archwing is a novelty to me at best. It is way too disorienting and the passages in the ships are not obvious at all. That goes both ways for me in that it is kinda cool that there are no big yellow signs saying THRU HERE! But trying to find some of them with the wonky as hell waypoint marker moving all over makes it frustrating as shit... exp when my team (if i get one) is already through the map.

There's some low level exterminate arch-wing missions that are best for levelling up your arch-wing. The interception missions are not remotely soloable.

That said if you do have an archwing the new alert, while people are doing it, is an amazingly fast way to level up your archwing and hopefully get some mod cards for it.

It was kind of fun to just do this for a night.  Still need about 120 points to finish up. 

Great source of fusion cores and levels for my archwing and it's weapons.  Plus I need a forma and catalyst badly.

Here's the other thing: Even if you complete all 5-6 runs to complete the alert, you can still do it again with a friend who hasn't, and although you won't earn the rewards of the alert, you will still get the 5 gold fusion cores.

Just finished the alert this last night. Had a pretty good time and finally maxed out my Itzal archwing.

I wasn't aware that the event would keeping coughing up R5 cores for more completions. Guess I know what I'll be doing this weekend. I've got a fair number of 10rank mods to max and Baro shows up tomorrow. Rumor is primed streamline is going to be a thing. Gotta have that one at least 9/10.

I like Archwing well enough, but the issue with it is it has no relation to the rest of the game (yet). It's just sorta there. Not much reason to fiddle with it until a TA like this one comes along. Unfortunately, then you're behind the curve unless you farmed the low level 'wing missions for mods and experience--which is way tedious. I realize DE is focused (ahem) on U16 right now, but they should be integrating Archwing into regular mission types. That would increase interest and allow more opportunities to farm the gear without dedicated grinding in mostly empty Archwing-only missions.

There are several of us that can solo the Earth Interception.  Not with a completely new frame and weapon, but it is doable.

Now Uranus?  That's impossible to solo.

Yes the Mars exterminate mission is doable even on a minimally ranked starter archwing with no mods.

This Archwing Tactical Alert isn't too bad -- it's a lot easier than the previous heavy melee-only one. I got my Odonata up to rank 20 and decide to try out the alert and I joined one guy who was pretty much just soloing things and then a 3rd joined us later on (we had a 4th but he dropped or something). The AI doesn't seem that smart in terms of capturing points on these maps. They seem to focus on only one or two points (point B in particular seems to be a focus) rather than spreading out and trying to grab all of them like they do on the regular maps. The Ogma Elites also don't seem to be particularly dangerous.

As long as you keep moving you're usually pretty good.  They can hit hard if you stop or get some unlucky hits.  (Like we had a near wipe in a chain reaction from trying to rez someone.)

That they tend to focus on one point is why the lower level ones can be soloed.  Interception is about hitting 100% first, so it doesn't matter if you lose some points for a bit, and with Itzals it is really easy to recap points anyways.

DE has been fiddling with Archwing AI since release. They did used to scatter and take all the points at once. They also tended to mop the floor with the players, since they were very aggressive and there's no real cover or anyway to avoid incoming fire (at least back then).

Now they tend to flood one point for a long period of time and then sneak up on another one if they can't cap it in what seems to be a set time period. Kinda hard to say, but this is what it looks like on the receiving end.

The Ogma Elites aren't terribly dangerous...if you keep your distance. If you get froggy and try to melee, you'll find out differently PDQ. They become a much greater threat at high levels due to armor scaling. On the low end, they're pretty easy to deal with at distance with reasonably well modded guns.

A well modded Itzal can solo interception pretty well. Just have to keep your energy up and make liberal use of both the stealth and warp abilities. Fighter escort is entertaining, but Itzals really shouldn't be slugging it out with enemies. Vortex can be used to scavenge for orbs, resources, and can kill low level enemies outright, but its main utility is recharging health and energy after a fight when orbs are drifting about nearby.

Yeah the Archwing stuff definitely feels half-assed right now. Things like killing yourself meleeing on the ship maps (though I suppose that's better than the alternative of getting stuck permanently in some geometry) and having to deal with the already horrible navigation system but now in 3-D. And then there are the mission affinity bonuses*. You want me to get how many headshots Lotus? 30 pistol kills? Now I know you are just trolling me Lotus.

* The regular missions have this issue too like the bonus for Hacking in Excavation missions but in the Archwing missions it's more frequent

I mostly ignore the bonuses. Too many random things work against them.

If you can complete one and need the affinity, great. If not, then no great loss.

The devs  at PAX did address Archwing just hanging off one end of the game with little attachment to the core gameplay. Apparently, it was one of those design decisions made to get the system in the game and players kinda used to it before actually trying to integrate it into the game. The return of the J3 golem boss fight should see the first steps to having missions going (hopefully) seamlessly from indoors to out in space and back again.

So I'm just getting back into this after playing back in the, beta(?), I think. Could I get a quick rundown on what's changed? There seems to be a lot of new content. Can new frames be crafted in a reasonable time, or would it be easier to just buy what you want. Same question for weapons.

I'd say outside of clan dojo frames and hydroid/nekros, all the frames are rather quick turn arounds farming. That said, it will take you farming all the bps for each, 12hours for those if you do them all at the same start time, then buy the bp from the market for credits, then 3 day on that cook time. I have almost all the frames now and only used plat for nekros and mirage (mirage was the first frame I leveled to 30 when I decided the game was good enough to throw money at...at least the cost of a new game).

Weapons - I haven't delved into that too much, but top stuff is prime stuff that you can't get without farming Void. Otherwise the credit market on BPs for weapons is basically good enough. Clan dojo has some good shit if your clan has the research behind it. I am still searching for a clan over on my dirty console so I can't speak to build times.

Not really sure why this has peaked my interest recently, but I've been looking at it a bit lately. 

How easy is it to get into and since what I read is that soloing is pretty hard (impossible for some things) how easy is it to transiently pug?  Do I have to actually socialize and schedule with people to really enjoy the game?

Personal experience, I have 0 friends that play this game on PS4 so I am soloing and PuG playing. I have cleared the majority of the planets doing this and built the majority of my frames doing this. Higher level planets are where the shit gets dumb to find a PuG, but you can pound through it picking up a stealth frame. F2P so I'd say it is pretty worth it. A few cockblocks here and there, but those are just where the grind gets testy.

I don't think you should bother paying market plat for weapons, most of those are just farmable in a fashion.  The hard to get stuff are mostly primes (good luck getting the soma prime parts) or faction weapons and you can buy those off players.  That being said, the come with a slot and a potato, which is roughly a 26 plat value.

For frames, the starter frames are a decent value for purchasing, since they're only 75 plat and again come with a free slot (20 plat) and potato (20 plat).

The hard stuff to farm would be nekros, mirage, limbo or mesa.  Hydroid and vauban can be a bit of a bitch as well.  Primes are going to be somewhat of a problem too unless you have a good group, even then they take a decent amount of effort.

The key thing is to have an active clan.  Without one, this game is somewhat of a bitch and not really worth playing.  Solo nights when no one is on can be really boring and frustrating.  That being said, most pugs aren't too terrible.  It's just hard to get some content to pop, and void missions are invite only.

ONE OF US ONE OF US

But seriously if you guys are interested in giving it a go there's a few of us that play pretty regular and can at least give you some of the basic mods and tips / info and such.  More the merrier.

Edit: this is on PC.

Is there an f13 thing in-game?

Sure whynot.  Downloading now via steam, I'm in the mood for something different.  Probably hop on late tonight or tomorrow evening if I can.

I'm assuming since it's a FPS, that even though it's out on consoles I really should prefer KB+M over controller?

Yes you want KB+M. Warframe can be extremely fast paced and accuracy when shooting with most ranged weapons does matter.

I'll let some of the other regulars chip here for specifics - but it's F13 people and some existing WF peoples as I can tell (I'm a newcomer to the group myself) in the in-game Clan and Team Speak.  The Clan I'm involved with isn't "F13" specific although there may be some folks who play that have somethinglike that set up I'm just not aware of.

You can use a controller (I think) with PC, but in my opinion anyway, KB / mouse is the way to go.  The action-shooty-parkour part of the game is very FPS'ish in game play.

Just a disclaimer: beyond the tutorial, this game just kind of plunks you down in Oz.  Ask lots of questions and ask for help when you need to;  we're all more than willing to help out.

It depends on how far you got before you stopped and how much platinum you have or plan on buying. The standard advice of only buy slots and cosmetics with platinum cause everything else can be acquired in-game (including more platinum through trading) ignores those of us who bought platinum as a means of reducing the grind in the game. If you got enough mods ranked up that you can do some of the higher-level content pretty easily then it might be fine to farm for stuff rather than buy with plat. If you do have plat or plan on getting some I can write up what I've learned from spending some of my platinum so far.

I have a level ~13 Loki frame and appropriate level weapons, that's about it. So I don't know where I stand on the power curve, but I figured I'd just do some pugs initially after the tutorial is over.

 * edit: in particular, I was looking at the 'paladin' frame (Oberon, I think?) as something that I'd like to play. I am however, not overly partial to grind =(

Yeah you aren't ready for the higher level content. Mods are actually the gating factor, though you can buy those with plat too on the trading channel after you get to MR2. If you get either the 50% or 75% discount on plat that's something to consider if you want to reduce some of the grind. The Prime Access pack also includes discounted plat.

Well, Oberon isn't "hard" to get but you'll have to run some missions to get all the required blueprints, and then also need to have the associated resources, which at your level will most likely require you to farm (IE - run more missions).  Or - you can just straight out buy the frame for plat.

Oberon isn't a very popular frame because he isn't a "top tier" frame and not really a min-maxer candidate, but I play him semi-regular and enjoy him.  He's considered a tank based on stats, and his powerset is kind of a generalist setup (DD, small AoE, Heal, big nuke).  Cool Frame visually though.

Soloing is hard on many of the mission types when you are starting out. Pugging in my experience so far has actually been pretty good. I can only remember a handful of missions I've failed cause of bad pugs (a spy and a few defense and interceptions). You may ran into some issues with unlocking nodes to reach each planets' boss to unlock the next planet but if you are diligent in checking for open groups on the nodes you can't solo you should be able to get pretty far without having a regular group or clan. I'm not in the F13 clan yet and I've managed to unlock 7 of the 12 locked planets (not counting Mercury) doing the intermittent pug thing.

One tip is to check the different server regions (e.g. US East and US West) for groups. You can change this in the Gameplay settings. I've had luck switching to US East or Asia from US West to find groups depending on when I'm playing.

Rescue missions are the bane of my existence. I have failed those harder than any other... even spy missions.

Yeah I've taken to playing those solo as a true stealth missions with Loki. Once inside the jail I stealth kill everybody before unlocking anything.

With Spy missions you get 3 tries so that makes them a lot easier solo since at least one setup isn't too difficult (and of course #LokiMasterRace makes even the hard ones easy). Pugging Spy missions on the other hand are kind of hit and miss.

I didn't even want Loki, but god damn his stealth invis ability makes all these missions easy as sin... add in the fact I have a Jat fully modded and it makes it even more laughable.

His decoy switching combo is even more powerful than his invis in those missions I've found.

Last night I kept seeing what looks like the Cephalon suda sigil (http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141103001214/warframe/images/4/49/CBsigileg.png) pop up on my screen during a Vey Hek farm (screen would dim a bit and the icon/sigil would appear very briefly) but I wasn't fighting a syndicate mission. What does that mean when that appears?

Are you using a syndicate weapon?  They send out a damage burst and have a recharge proc when you get enough xp while it's wielded.

Just a reminder to folks; if you would like to play with the current small group of f13ers, send us a friend request in game, and a tell if you see us live. I'm Engels777 in game and I'm normally on after 7 pm PST weekdays and throughout the weekend.

Also, current f13 clan members can invite other f13ers without consulting us EC admins first. We regrettably trust your judgement, simply because our standards are even lower than yours could possibly be. Hop on TS and if WaveCrusher, Garga or myself are online we can rope 'em in.

Ah ha! Must be my new shiney Synoid Gammacor then :awesome_for_real:

I keep logging on an hour after you leave. Stop that!

Alias is KallDrexx.

Played for a good bit tonight.  I like how it feels like there are multiple paths to the objective, and seems pretty good at rewarding you for taking the hidden paths, or at least I assume so.  I keep opening all the containers but haven't really realized if they give you anything but ammo and health.  I have no idea if the mods I get at the end are things I picked up or if it's just mission completion rewards.

I apparently suck at shooters lately, or I just haven't played any in a while.  Still had fun so far, only 3 missions in though.   I spent 15 minutes trying to figure out how to equip the mods I got as a reward to the first mission until I gave up.  Turns out the next mission got me the ship functionality to actually equip mods, weeeee.

Is there any way to increase the fonts for the chat window and the general HUD?  It's hard as shit to read anything at 1080p when playing from the couch.

You will get other stuff in containers so keep opening them. Also there are "lockers" with green lights you can open by standing in front and pressing 'X'. You get mods from picking them up off the ground and also sometimes as mission rewards. The ones you get from the ground flash their card on your screen for a bit.

The UI in this game sucks really really badly, unfortunately. Under Gameplay there's a Large Chat Text option which doesn't much and under HUD there's a UI Scale bar that you can drag though even when it's at the largest setting it's still not that large.

Trippy beat me to it so - yeah the UI, specifically the chat UI is fuck awful.  The large text option will help a bit but...it's pretty ugly.

Modwise, well anything you pickup in a mision really, just hold on to it.  Even after 400+ hours of playing I tend to hoard mods.  At your level you never know what you might need later so just pick up everything.  You won't run out of (that type) inventory space. 

As for containers - this kinda gets into a playstyle discussion.  Painting in broad strokes here but there's a couple kinds of players in missions: speed runners (just get to the objective!) and looters / explorers.  If you're soloing go ahead and loot every damn locker and container.  There's a small chance you might get a mod, but you need every little bit of resource you can get at this point so why not hit all the containers while you're in mission.  I'm a looter myself so maybe I'm biased but hey.

Edit: in game name - Mandelbrodt.  I mainly play PST nights.       

Hit the containers. They're worth it. Especially in the void (while it's still around).

There are rare types of containers that will have high rank fusion cores, cash, possibly mods, and boosters. They are rare and tend to spawn in very out of the way places, so explore. Also: orokitties.

There are often multiple paths through missions, particularly spy and rescue missions. They are procedurally generated, so this varies to some degree, but look for ways around things. Damaged or open ventilation gratings are the usual clue there might be another way to approach a problem. Look up as well, particularly in grineer tilesets and Jupiter gas cities. There are often rooms above the main corridors and they often have extensions that aren't readily visible.  There can be some serious verticality in the void, so look up.

I did notice the containers activated in non-main pathways.  Definitely enjoyed the fact that it encouraged me to explore, although it's painfully obvious the procedural generation re-uses "tiles" a lot, which at one point made me think I got turned around going "wait didn't I already go through here".

You should have seen it when they had all of two or three tile sets and they hadn't added any new rooms to those.

Up to 9/12 now. It's nice being able to host some higher-level alerts now instead of always begging on Recruiting.

Funny moment of the weekend was doing a Nightmare mod alert with 3 Trinities and a Limbo and all three of us Trinities went down trying to revive each other* and had to be saved by the Limbo.

* I died even with Quick Thinking, ah well.

In nightmares, I tend to just accept that odds are high that i'm going to be eating one more more revives, even on trinity, since trying to save people can end very badly for actually completing the mission.

I was going to switch to Valkyr but they started the countdown too fast. Next time I might try it with Frost just for fun.

I decided I was going to give Loki a shot with stealth invisible running through the unfinished spy/deception/rescue missions I was leaving open. Surprisingly, it went really well once I got used to the timer on invis. Even plowed through all of my Tower level 1 and 2 keys solo. Of course, I run Valk through the exterminate and sabotage ones, and mirage for the defense missions and Frost for the mobile def. But Loki is starting to become my go to. Ended by farming with Nekros and now that he is 30, desecrate is just like getting a free turn. Managed to actually find Rage in one of the missions - Saturn I think (which ever Saturn or Jupiter that is Grineer).  That made me pee a little from the excitement.  

Tried to solo a high level nightmare with Valk. Never even got hysteria fired off before I got 2 shot - one shot shield then the other -700hp. Damn corpus. I think the debuff was a timer where your kills add time to it.

Sadly, I haven't been able to play this much due to school and work. Hopefully in the next couple of weeks some more free time should open up for me.

I haven't figured out what to make of this game yet.

The idea sounds really cool, and I really enjoyed the Vor's quest missions that I played solo.  Now that I beat those it definitely seems like things are hard as shit solo.  Wasted 3 revives until someone joined me for my next earth mission.  I actually wouldn't have been that bad but it was a scavenger rmission and the mobs literally wouldn't stop spawning and heading towards me, so much so othat I wasn't even able to leave the entrance till people joined.

I then did 3 missions with pugs, which literally consisted of me chasing down empty corridors cause everyone else is on fast as fuck speed while I"m at meh speed (apparently).  Next thing I know they are at the extraction site and I'm just trying to catch up, not getting there before the mission completed.  Zero chance for exploration or even findng loot.

I then was playing around in my ship and tried to leave my squad.  I notice there's a "rank up button" there.  Sure why not.  So I click it and go to some trial thing.  Apparently I suck at it (even though my frame and weapons are all at rank 10) because I failed it, not because I died but I couldn't kill things fast enough (and how can I with 3 flying healers all forming a healing circle around themselves and constantly running behind walls.

I think I've got a good handle on the excalibur's powers, and using shield dash + blind comobinations.  Of course then I start whacking people with my bo staff and I feel like I barely do any damage.  Also, I have yet to figure out where on the UI it tells me when I have enough energy to use my abilities, usually leaving me in a bad position.  I also can't figure out if I should be using melee or just leaving it for a last resort.

I find the idea behind the game interesting, and the solo easieir missions were fun, but I feel like I just don't get something.

The game is unfortunately very newbie unfriendly. The tutorial is better than nothing but it still doesn't really explain how to progress in the game. The main thing to know is that your warframe rank by itself only has a small effect on its overall effectiveness (your shield, health and energy max will increase somewhat) and on weapons rank by itself has no effect at all. The way you get "stronger" in the game is by modding your warframes and weapons and by acquiring more mods, warframes and weapons (the warframes aren't all equal in effectiveness depending on the mission and some weapons are outright better than others). The rank determines how many "points" worth of mods you can put in your stuff, but again, by itself, has little to no effect. Mods also have their own ranks and the higher the rank on the mod the more powerful the effect (and the higher the points cost).

So to get stronger you basically have to grind missions to get more mods and then use the fusion process (which requires credits and other mods) to rank up the mods. Getting a warframe or weapon to max rank is quick relative to the time it takes to acquire and rank up the mods you need to do the highest difficulty content. Buying platinum can shorten this process a little but you end up being limited by credits rather than platinum at that point so you still need to grind missions.

The Wikia (http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/WARFRAME_Wiki) is quite good and I recommend referring to it often and Warframe subreddit has some good newbie guides (http://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/2f82rh/welcome_to_warframe/).

I recommend that your first high-level goal should be to unlock enough of the sectors on Venus so you can reach Fossa which is the boss fight. Do not try and fight the boss on your own at first. It shouldn't be that hard to find a group that's fighting the boss, though. As a reward for completing the mission you get a component blueprint to build a Rhino part. There are 3 part blueprints that you'll need (systems, helmet, chassis) but it's random which blueprint you get as a reward so you may have to kill the boss a bunch of times. You may also need to farm a bit for the resources and credits you'll need to build all the parts. After the parts are built you'll need to buy the blueprint for Rhino from the market and then with that and the built components you can actual build Rhino. Rhino has an ability called Iron Skin which basically makes the early game easy mode as that makes Rhino super-tanky while it lasts.

Lagging behind other people in a group is going to be the norm for a while. I'm still usually one of the last people to make it extraction when I'm PuGing after playing pretty regularly for about a month now. You will get better as you learn the maps ("tile sets" in WF nomenclature since the maps are actually assembled procedurally so there's a large number of variations per tile set). The thing you'll need to practice, besides learning how the tile sets typically fit together, is how to "copter (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7nEk_JcCIA)". This is how most of the other players are moving so quickly through the map (some warframes have movement powers which can get them through maps quickly without coptering).

Don't be afraid to set your matchmaking to Solo so that you can take your time to learn things. The best mission types for a solo newbie are Exterminate and Sabotage. The others will likely be too difficult without some experience with how the mission type works. Of the early mission types I would put them into tiers from easiest (1) to hardest (4) and in each tier the missions are listed as easiest to hardest (so in tier 2 Capture is easier than Spy).

1: Exterminate, Sabotage
2: Capture, Spy (watch some "Spy 2.0" videos), Deception, Rescue
3: Survival (watch some videos on how life support works), Defense, Mobile Defense
4: Excavation, Interception

As for whether or not to melee I love smacking things in the face personally (some missions I'll do melee-only in fact) but you just have to experiment to see which is faster (and safer). The nice thing about melee attacks is that they will often prevent your target from attacking back, at least temporarily (basically it'll interrupt some types of attacks), so if that's the only thing attacking you you can often beat on it to death without taking any damage in return. That doesn't work so well though when there are multiple things attacking you.

I'll look up how to unlock venus, right now I only have mercury unlocked.  I was trying to unlock all of earth before moving on but it's sounding like that's not the way to go.

How do you even put yourself in solo mode?  I didn't notice that option but that could be due to the fact that everything is small as crap on 1080p on my tv (I guess I should probably lower the resolution for this game just for UI purposes). 

When it says a mission is level 1-6, what does that actually mean?  For some reason I was assuming that was talking how easy it is, but writing that out I'm having second thoughts and assuming now that's just the level id (like mario levels).  Or maybe I'm just confusing myself more.

Good to know that mods are what are important, I guess that makes sense.

In that video for the copter, I"m assuming E is melee attack (Ii moved mine to Q, I found not having E bound to use awkward).

Thanks for the feedback, that makes things make a bit more sense about how to progress from here.

There's a drop down list on the top left when you are looking at missions. It defaults to "public" but you can put it to "friends only" or "invite only" if you want to solo. Like all mission based games PUG tends to be about maximum efficiency, so while it's fun with friends in a hectic way (or beating an alert) I like the more tactical feel of a challenging solo mission.

Defense, Mobile Defense and Interception are generally impossible solo from what I've seen. Most of the others are doable with practice, mods and an appropriate frame. Extermination are easiest because the number of opponents is not infinite.

The mission level is the level of the mobs AFAIK. So it will increase their health, damage and the variety of elite mobs you start to see.

There's two melee keys. A quick attack and another which makes your melee your primary weapon which allows parrying (took me a while to realise that). I'm pretty bad at the mobility tricks but the veterans will copter, wall-jump and slide-jump to speed through missions.

Kill the boss on Mercury and you'll be able to unlock Mars and Venus. If you are having issues with the difficulty on Mercury it's fine to stay on Earth but just do the mission types that you can handle (e.g. just do the Exterminate 1-3 or Exterminate 3-5 missions) rather than try to unlock everything right now (which you can't even do even if you wanted to cause one of them is an Archwing mission which you can't enter yet).

In settings there's a UI scale slider. Dragging it all the way to the right helps a bit but things will still be pretty small.

That level information does give an indication how difficult the enemies will be. However enemy levels do not correlate to warframe or weapon ranks. So don't think that if your frame and weapons are at say, rank 15 that you can take on a level 10-15 mission by yourself right now. Again it's the mods you have equppied that mostly matter at this point.

Enemy levels in the "endless" mission types (defense, survival, interception, excavation) will keep inreasing beyond the range listed so even if they start out low, like in the Earth 1-6 defense mission they can get very tough if you stay for multiple waves. Don't be afraid to bug out after the first or second "leave point" on these types of missions so you get your drops and mission rewards. Note that for survival and excavation at least half the team has to make it to extraction for the mission to end successfully so if you want to leave early but the others don't that can be an issue. Early on that makes defense the "safest" one to pug since even with just two people you should be able to get through the first 5 waves and then leave.

As mentioned in some earlier posts it is possible to solo these even with a low ranked waframe and weapons with crappy mods but it takes practice.

Another thing I forgot to mention in my first reply is if you are using Mk1 weapons you should replace those ASAP. Go to the market and buy blueprints for the non-Mk1 versions or one of the other low blueprint cost/low resource cost weapons* and craft those.

* You'll want something that only requires resources you can get from Earth and Mercury currently

Not sure how things are over on PC, but on PS4, there is ALWAYS a public group on Mercury Apollwtfname? (the survival mission) which I use faithfully to level up a frame and/or weapons to about 8 before moving to jupiter or saturn for more XP. Leveling stuff seems to work really fast doing survival, defense, and mobile defense missions. The caveat is sometimes you get into a survival PuG with guys that want to run 30-40 minutes - which is fine, but a level 8-10 frame with 8-10 weapons is going to be sunk when the mobs get into the 30-40 range. If that is not your cup of tea, just hit the defense mission on mercury and you can choose to bail whenever, but I'd usually recommend staying till wave 20 for a Void key if your group stays...never stay alone past level 10 when leveling a frame / weapons. Mobile defense if you can swing a pug for them are the best xp per time invested since it is just mass chaos of waves and waves of mobs - and it is time limited so you are not fully stuck for 30-40 minutes as you would in a survival mission.

Mercury is my go to because there are always PuGs on the survival and defense missions, the mobs are grineer which I feel are easier to handle with unmodded stuff, and the levels are low enough to get through efficiently.

Considering Vauben's helmet finally went to alert this morning right before work, I'll be running this routine Saturday to level him up...finally. Been waiting for this piece since I started playing and got his chassis the second day. Got a little worried as this girl I am seeing came over last night and the systems alert fired off around midnight. I figured the helmet would either hit at an inopportune time or right after I left for work, but luckily it hit during my morning coffee. So nice to have it out of the way.

I love the Earth Extraction mission, personally. Doing 10 extractions, which doesn't take that long if you are doing two at once, will yield ~40 mods. I spent a lot of time there in February ranking stuff up and farming for mods.

Edit: more accurately killing all the incoming mobs while waiting for the 10 extractions will yield a ton a mods

Once you have a something that can carry you through a mid teens mission: Sedna - Kappa is great for leveling.  Warning, however, there be bombards.  Mod for corrosive (gunners) or radiation (bombards), and you'll do well.   Plus, there's usually some guy geared to the gills in your squad that could solo it.

This is how I'm leveling my frost prime and my amprex when I slot a new forma on it.

Banshee is next on the list.  Her kit looks awesome.

edit: PST sucks.  Everyone's asleep when I get on now.  :tantrum:

https://twitter.com/PlayWarframe/status/577848637708959745

Also leaving the tower rotation is the latron prime and reaper prime (I still need to build this). 

Oh, definitely work on getting a Latron Prime.  It's one of the best general purpose prime weapons, and relatively easy to get compared to some.

I wonder if that means Loki is going to take the place of Frost.

Yeah, sorry, I just haven't been playing anything lately.  Got really sick at the end of last week.  I should be on again more soon.

edit:  Oh hell, i need to finish my reaper prime soon then.

If you're on PC, it seems like every member of the Evil Chickens (except me) has a full set of this just lying around.

It's a good gun; it just never really caught on with me like the tiberon or amprex.  I need to finish leveling it and toss a potato on it to see how it really does. 

Excavation? I think that is where you are going... and I fully agree, Cambria is very lucrative and I take my Nekros there frequently to farm Neurodes. You can definitely get a ton of shit out of that place, and if you have an AoE gun like my prized possession 6 forma's Amprex.... then playing there is god like. The only problem is that map is so hard to get around in.

And son of a bitch... I'll never get any of those prime things before they go. I really wanted the reaper too...

I can't really do much after T3 because nullifiers are fuck stupid and I can only deal with a few that appear in the extermination missions. All the other ones just thump me.

Now that I am thinking about it, if they are shelving Frosty and the Latron and Reaper, I wonder what they are going to release in those tables... Valkyr Prime would be heaven.

Volt Prime is the next Prime Warframe.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/2y7utr/tennolive_2015_recap_and_discussion/

Yeah that does ring a few bells... Meh. I don't really dig Volt and have 0 interest. I just hope they get the PC patch version out on PS4 soon because no way in hell am I farming beacons for Hek just to get Hydroid - even though I really would like to take him for a test drive. WONDER TWINS POWER....ACTIVATE! Form of....a puddle!

Umm...the Stolen Dreams patch it out RIGHT NOW for the PS4 (Xbox One was apparently delayed a bit).

The standard or the prime?  If it's the standard then don't put a catalyst on it.  I think I have all the parts for a prime you're welcome to.  (Though I'm out on business all week, so won't happen until the weekend or later.)

I heard this... I am heading home to update. I got Vauban's helmet baking and should start his warframe in the oven tonight and have him leveling by Saturday. Hopefully, they uncoupled Hek from his beacon key hell and I can work on hydroid this week as well. Gotta fill those two empty frame slots.   :drill:

Hek is still a PITA even without the keying, though I suppose on the PS4 it'll be popular so it won't be hard to find a group, unlike on the PC.

Prime.  I think Engels had like 4 complete sets lying around. 

Probably.  He liked collecting them to give out to new members.

I'm not dead yet! But ya, I may have vendored latron parts for ducats.

Luck of the Irish or some shit last night... Jumped into a PuG for Vay Hek - first run, no one knew wtf we were doing, didn't know any of the mechanics... got stomped. Fought him for about 10 minutes, noticed he kept regenning his health. Gave up.

Went back after a little research and destroyed him in half a minute. Next three runs, Hydroid systems, helmet, chassis. Can't say I ever got a 3 out of 3 before. Now I have to farm a few argon crystals and can start building him.  :drill:

U16 for PC is out now (patching as I type).

Edit: Login server down :awesome_for_real:

Sanctuary Patch Notes (https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/420448-warframe-sanctuary/)


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Ya, the gammacor is now relegated to being a side arm. I had mine rigged for max fire rate and the thing goes through its ammo just way too fast. It didn't last through ONE 20 second fire fight.

Guess I'll go ahead and potato that marelok now.  :awesome_for_real:

I have yet to find a secondary that I actually like at all. I need to try to get a bronco because all the handguns I really can't stand. I have a vanilla gammacor and hate the streamed laser thing.

Yeah and the demand on those things is going to skyrocket. Good thing I bought one on Wednesday.

Ohh, I'm not fortunate enough to have that one.  Regular marelok is still pretty nice.  Despair is too if people are looking for viable sidearms.

I'd say Despair is nearly on par with the 'original' Synoid Gammacore, except of course it doesn't get the fun proc.

I dunno if I'd call despair viable given how much luck it takes to get.  It's almost as bad as the vauban.

I really would like vauban systems alert to pop up sometime when I'm actually on.

Heh, I think I got Despair, Hate, and Dread in order.  Might have been 2 Despairs at some point. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'm just happy that stalker is more reliably showing up again at all.

I'm not. Fucker always pops up when I am solo and I get my ass handed to me every single time. Can't out run, can't out gun, can't use abilities... basically it's just a used revive at the point I see the lights flicker.

The Vaylock is an amazing gun.  Working on the syndicate Akbolto which is also a nice gun.

The Stalker has given me despair, but not Despair.

Working As Intended :awesome_for_real:

Day 3 attempt at this game:

Did an elimination/extermination mission solo.  Went fine except I went down a dead end corridor to get loot and a heavy weapons flame thrower + 3 regular guys pinned me down.  Killed him by using door opening/closing for cover but still lost 2 revives in the process. 

Did a low level alert.  Before people joined I got mauled down by charging dogs, one literally took away all my shield in one charge and the other my health.  Was frustrating, but I revived and batoned them to death (for whatever reason melee seems easier against them than my rifle).

Got a bunch of loot, upgraded my Baton's damage mod to 60% damage (rank 3 I think?).  Now I feel like I can kill people melee pretty well.  I do a low level capture mission solo and mostly went well but I did die to something.  Captured both targets and 20 minutes in (and a good amount of mods I think) I'm heading towards the excavation point.  Run into a cave corridor, back out and snipe people with my rifle.  Suddenly a heavy gunner comes out and destroys me causing me to fail the mission and get nothing.

This game doesn't seem very consistent.  At some points I can not care people are firing at me, run in and melee people to death.  The next minute I'm getting sniped from 5 directions and taking damage like there's no tomorrow.

That's how the game is in the early progression.

Movement is key. The AI doesn't aim particularly well at moving targets. Stand still, though, and they'll home in on you and burn you down in seconds. Keep moving and use cover. You can reload and move, just can't run. Also, set up your hotkeys and learn how to roll. Warframes can roll, front and backflip. All of these maneuvers both confound enemy aim and grant 80% damage reduction.

Of course, enemies with AoE attacks like bombards and napalms are a bit more challenging to deal with, but, again, rolling can evade the missiles. Also, use crowd control abilities. Warframes like Mag and Banshee can keep heavy units on the ground with knockdowns and ragdoll physics. They're not shooting if they're on their ass. Many heavy weapons also have knockdowns with ragdoll physics. The Jat Kittag (jet kitty) springs to mind.

One of the very cool features of the game is the ability to select weapons and 'frames to leverage this sort of thing, depending on your playstyle and preferences.

There's a 3 day credit+affinity booster promo code out today, VoidCrystal, enter it in on the buy platinum page under promo codes.  Code is supposedly good until the 31st, not sure if it's PC only or not.

I've been doing low level earth missions levelling alts and weapons. The "feral kubrow" have a lot of health and armor, appear in a group and have a charge attack (fairly visible if you look at them setting it up) which hits hard and knocks you over. As you observed keep moving and spam melee. The heavy gunners have a very distinctive "spin up" which also gives you some time to seek cover, and given they have spin up they are terrible at dealing with you popping out. Can even Lato them to death pretty easily.

Also getting a couple of ranks in your health and shield mods make a big difference in your early survivability.

I got owned a couple of times by the Grineer Manic, it's a very cheesy fight. Perhaps as a encouragement for people in groups to stick together it makes sense. Still, at least he can only kill you once per mission now.

The Left 4 Borderlands Psycho-Hunter as I like to call him.  Thankfully they've only shown up when I've had my good gun equipped.

The manic is kinda like stalker-lite, but a lot more mobile.

The biggest threat is losing your nerve when facing him down or getting hit with a bleed proc. He's not terribly tough, but he is very fast and does have an invis and (supposedly) an invulnerability phase.

I've only fought him few times, but I was using Trinity (been doing the Simeris scan missions--WoL makes this a lot simpler) so the bleeds are easily cancelled. If I didn't have proc removal abilities, I'd just drop a large health restore and plan on a lot of tumbling when he closes in. Shoot him in the face on approach, avoid getting hit too much, and it'll just be a matter of time before he bites it. I believe he's easily controlled if not in the red phase, so CC abilities should work just fine.

He's even easier with Trinity if you have Link on cause you can see where he is (approximately) even when he is invis -- just shoot where the link ends and you'll likely take him out easy peasy.

Yeah, I noticed that since I keep link up continuously.

In one fight he retreated to lick his wounds in a corner and the link was pointing to the exact spot he holed up--which was then violated with about half a magazine of "to whom it may concern" from a 4-forma Soma Prime. Sucks to be him.

There's a lot of angst over this guy on the O-fficial forums, but he's really pretty easy to deal with...IF...you keep your nerve and just play him out. I can see some issues with newer players running into this guy, but he doesn't really show up until around the lvl20ish stuff and you should have all your shit in one bag by then. Of course, it's gaming and that isn't a given, but if you've got half decent stuff and have been paying attention to how the game works, he's not really too much of an issue.

Edit: for Freudian slip! There's a lot of angst over the gun, too, but that's another topic.

Seems like today is Vauban systems alert day.  It's up for another 40 mins on PC (it was up at 7am also).

Speaking of which...

he is ridiculous on infested defense maps. Seriously, ridiculous. He was well worth the getting alerts at 3am to grab his pieces.

I missed that alert cause I overslept :oh_i_see:

Ember is my go to frame for Infested non-solo missions currently. All of her abilities are good against them, though really I just like burning things :awesome_for_real:

This game plays surprisingly well streamed via Steam in home streaming.  Except for some quick times with the slow network warning I was able to shoot quite well (horray for 802.11ac, can't wait to hardwire my house and get full gigabit).

Plaed the earth defense mission, and man that's great for loot.  It appears though you can only get 3 mods per map max?

I'm getting into the groove with this game.  I've got a good handle on the melee while running thing and using it a lot to get in and out of battle quickly. 

One benefit of a combination of a cold, reflux, and insomnia is that you catch the orokin catalyst invasion that pops up at 2am.   :awesome_for_real:

The anniversary event is on. Log into warframe in the next couple of days to get the Dex Furis (quite good dual pistols) and Dex Dakra (dual swords).

Should also note that those are both potatoed, and if you already have the dex furis from last year, it's effectively a free weapon slot.

13 Sedna boss runs:

9 Saryn Helmets
4 Saryn Chassis

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Shall we chat about Ruk?  :why_so_serious:


No really, fuck him and his never dropping ember's helmet for me until like run 40. Seriously, I have 46 nav things from this bastard. I ran Vay Hek 3 times and got all of Hydroid.... So yeah. I am with ya man.

That's pretty typical. 

Usually, there's one warframe part that has a very low droprate. It's usually the systems with basic warframes.

When I was farming up Saryn, it took me 14 runs to get her systems to drop. I was farming Nyx at the same time (when Phorid was a system boss) and it took me over 40 runs to get her systems to drop.

In contrast, it only took me three runs to finish Valkyr after AladV was introduced.

It's just the RNG thing.

Gift of the Lotus up. You have 24 hours for a potato blueprint.

Also, double credit weekend.

I swear it's like they know I had another game I wanted to play this weekend.

Not like we have many keys left anyhow.  :awesome_for_real:

You mean quadruple credit weekend :awesome_for_real:

CREDITS.  YESYESYES.

But seriously lets do some Necro / Mag some frame + some frame void credit grinding puhleeeease.  Get some use out of my Prime Access boosters.

Had to log out cause of the stuck camera bug and now there's something wrong with the log in server :oh_i_see:

What do you use credits for besides mod fusing?  Everything in the market looks like it requires platinum to buy.

Did a level 11-13 alert this morning solo (nuclear core destruction mission vs infestation).  Man that was hard but a lot of fun even though I blasted through all of my revives.  Got a lot of good mods.

Been using mine for mod fusing...but you use credits to by the blueprints on the market. After this weekend, I am going to build a bunch of "use once / level to 30" guns and increase my mastery levels some since all my frames are now 30 and I have no interest in the other frames. That is my next credit sink I suspect.

Credits are also used as taxes for trading things at dojos, even if you're doing it with people on your friends list or in your clan/alliance.

Certain things can cost upwards of a million+ credits in tax, easily.

There are a few things that sell for credits in the marketplace, but it's mostly entry level stuff.

Otherwise, it's mostly used for mod fusing, kubrow maintenance (dogs are expensive, yo), and also for buying stuff from the void trader. As pointed out, taxes on dojo trading can be considerable as well.

Fusing is probably the biggest credit sink, but even a few million credits can disappear shockingly quickly if you don't watch expenditures.

It'll also cost you credits to obtain higher levels with the various factions.  Top level costs 500k; one previous costs 250k. 

Fusing cores into mods is my largest money sink and what drives my greed for creds creds creds.  The majority of items in game can be bought with platinum - in other words - real world cash.  Cores and credits, generally speaking, are the exception.  Yes you can convert plat to creds via the in-game market but WTF...look at the conversion rate.  You can also brave the Trade channel and try to buy higher end cores (R5 cores) for plat, but again, it doesn't seem to be a good return on your plat considering you'll gain the cores you need via missions relatively easily.  

When you start trying to max out mods with a higher number of ranks (Serration, Heavy Caliber, Over Extended etc.) or, even more fun, Primed mods (I'm looking at you Primed Continuity) cores and creds are always the limiting factors.  After a certian point the "meta" starts revolving around modding your weapons and frames as effectively as possible.  Rare mods, maxxing out mods where ever possible, forma'ing slots to squeeze aforementioned mods into a certian weapon or frame, and so on.

TL;DR - credits are comparatively hard to acquire in large amounts and are very much needed for game progression.  And higher level Syndicate rank ups do get really expensive.  

Double credit weekend + credit booster = good times      

Engels had some sort of game crashing weirdness last night that errored out on his login credentials also - he said that changing his login password via the WF website itself allowed him to log back in.

I was able to get back in just by waiting for a while. I wasn't able to log in to the Web site either.

YIL that Absorb is the highest priority target. Was playing an extraction to unlock the node and saw a Nyx player doing that.

Yeah, if I see a Nyx I'll unload my gorgon into her at point blank.

On the credits front, if you get into making as many weapons and frames as possible to gain ranks, you'll burn through credits at a good clip.  Be glad it feels like you have too many.  One day you'll lament that feeling.

I'm really starting to dig this game even though I've only gotten 2 hours of game time a couple nights a week.

Haven't branched out outside of excalibar and the newbie weapons, haven't found much reason to yet.  Finished the 2nd quest line and almost unlocked all of earth and half of mercury.  I'm getting a lot of pressure point mods, and I'm getting pretty happy with my fire bo staff, but I haven't found many damange mods for my rifle yet.  I rarely use my pistol weapon, haven't really seen much use for it outside of excavation missions where you are forced to while carrying something.

Got a sword blueprint from the 2nd quest line (Once awakened I believe, where infested are introduced) but I need to find out where to get some of the other resources from (I think I need jupiter if I remember the resources correctly, judging from the warframe wiki).

I thought I was good on credits.  Then I underutilized the double credit weekend and got Cephalon Suda to genius.   :uhrr:

Double credit weekend rocks. Made just under 1.5m doing nothing more than chasing alerts and dark sectors when there were no alerts. Even managed to relevel Vauban after I forma'd a D slot on him.

You'll want to rank up your secondary as well since that goes towards your overall mastery rank points. Basically you'll want to rank up everything that has a rank to 30 even if they are crappy or not fun to use. Some things you might want to sell after that point but you should try and get them to 30 before selling.

If that's the Heat Sword then yeah you'll need to get to Jupiter to get that Neural Sensor.

If you're on PC, we can help with some of the annoying first resource hurdles.  Control modules, plastids, rubredo, etc were all a pain in the ass at some point. Neural sensors, neurodes, morphics, and orokin cells are a perennial problem.

 :mob:

Yep, the heat sword.  Since my bo staff is only rank 16 I have a good while until I'm ready to upgrade.
Yep, I'm playing on PC.  Alias is KallDrexx

I sent you a clan invite.

Sweet thanks.  Just a heads up, since I play on my TV a lot, even with the UI scaled to max it's a tad hard for me to keep track of chat

Chat in this game is problematic overall. It's almost as though they are trying to push voice comms.  :why_so_serious:

But yeah... chat is horrible. On PS4, if I am in a game I have to:
1. escape into the menus
2. click L2 to open the chat window
3. click SQUARE to start a message
4. type out message on my bluetooth keyboard because trying to thumb stick type is pants-on-head stupid and the game would be over by the time I got a message to the window
5. escape out of chat
6. escape out of the menus

It is pretty pointless and the most user unfriendly chat I have ever seen in such a fast moving game.

It'd make more sense if the ingame voice com actually, like, you know, worked and stuff.

Although, it's a bit of a blessing to be ignorant of what might be going on in region chat on weekends and during the summer. Granted, I miss clan chat events all the time, but I can live with the tradeoff.

Voice works pretty well on PS4 though. But no one uses it except for people under 20 or people that are obnoxious.

Even close up chat is horrible. Evil Chickens has a TS server that people use to communicate.

Edit: a

If I'm on PSN I don't use in-game voice for anything.  Haven't tried Warframe but I don't see any reason to use a non-PSN voice system.

Welcome aboard! Just ask in clan chat for the TS info.

Accelerated Blast up for the next 42 minutes.  I only mention this because I remember someone asking about it. 

Caveat you'd have to have the time to get to your gaming setup and actually play at random times - but I use the Warframe Alert app (for Android) and it's been pretty handy for catching alerts that rewad harder to acquire items. 

I don't use it as much anymore since I work more of an 8-5 type schedule, but when I was working off hours it was how was able to acquire all the Vauban parts without too much hair pulling.

Warframe Utility for Android (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ezardlabs.warframe&hl=en)

Alright, so curiosity got the best of me and I loaded this up on steam to see how different it is. After getting over the motion sickness from my mouse being way way too sensitive, I can say I really missed the k&m. The game plays much slower when you are not fighting the controller. No idea how much I will play on the PC, but if anyone sees me around and can shoot me an invite, same name as here. Wouldn't mind seeing what a dojo actually looks like. :/

What's your in-game name?  I'll keep an eye out.  There's a group of F13'ers that mainly play West Coast evening times.

Same as here, 01101010. I play on Eastern time so maybe over the weekend.

This is Trinity's new cosmetic helmet.  It drops from T3 Survival, rotation B, but you have to have Greedy Pull Mag in your party and equip your Carrier for it to appear in the loot table.


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Had that happen quite often on my PS4 character. I just figured the vacuum on my carrier was clogged.  :why_so_serious:

Accepted your friend request Engels. Sadly, I didn't notice it till last night right before I passed out - thought there was an indicator on the HUD for that stuff? *shrug

My loot sombrero got so big that I couldn't see my gun.  Plus all of us got varying challenge bonuses like not being able to loot ammo or not picking up energy orbs.   :awesome_for_real:

Luckily the thing gets reset if you die and allow something to blow up your carrier.

If I see that Sicarus Prime blueprint again, I'm going to scream.

I bet we could make a really big loot fedora with mag, nekros, and hydroid. 

Dammit, so much for playing pillars of eternity this weekend.

Not working for me :(

Yeah I just tried it from the Account Admin page over on the Warframe main page and it no worky as of 3:00pm PST.

It was probably 5PM EST.  It worked around 1:30.   :oh_i_see:

Still, I just know you guys want to run a shit ton of T1/T2 captures.   :awesome_for_real:

I've got like 6 T1 keys  :roll:

Pilfered-Despoiled-Legerdemained loot never hurt anybody.  :ye_gods:

Is there a trick to deploying the Distilling Extractor? I built and claimed one but I can't deploy it on Jupiter -- it doesn't show in the list of available extractors to use. I've been running a regular Titan Extractor on Jupiter for a few weeks now so everything is unlocked on that planet.

Do you have your max number of extractors running at once? You can only have, like 2 at rank something or other.

Oh does the Distilling cost more "points"? I was trying to replace the Titan on Jupiter with the Distilling but if the Distilling is double the placement cost that would explain why it wasn't showing.

No, it doesn't cost any more to run.  Did you actually claim the extractor from the Foundry?

Yes and I double-checked that it was in my inventory. I also logged out and logged back in and that didn't help either. I will try with no extractors deployed after I claim this next set tonight.

Edit: I deployed it to the wrong planet cause the icons look the same :oh_i_see:

I've been told if I start playing this game that it will ruin my life. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

Easy enough to find out, first hit's free  :grin:

Actually... it is fairly easy to go in and out of. But yeah, if you are obsessive about getting shit done, it can be a ruiner of souls.

There's a lot to collect in the game but you have to be able to set your own goals -- the game doesn't tell you what you should be doing.

Agree with what everyone else has said.  You'll probably burn hot for a while with all teh shiney wepz and shooty stab stab space ninja action then settle in to a groove if the game actually appeals to you.  You could "advance" playing 8-10 hours a week probably (hour+ or so a night I guess). 

Plus not coming in completely solo will alleviate some of the tougher leveling / unlocks.  You can join us as I bounce grenades off of Engels head and kill myself, or have Rasix kill (most of) us activating defense lasers.  We can flow some basic mods your way; help you unlock planets etc.  ONE OF US

Full disclosure I may have killed us with the lasers.  I did remap chat away from X FYI everyone.  :uhrr:   

Hey, I announced the laser activation.  Then I forgot it does another sweep and stepped in front of it.  :awesome_for_real:

Sounds like Void Defense. The only time I ever die in that on my PS4 account is because I jump in front of the laser death rays.

Yes you did which is why I ran to the other side of the map cause I knew something like that would happen :awesome_for_real:

Announcing laser activation .2 seconds before pressing 'X' does not count as 'announcing'. Well, it does, if by announcing you mean murdering. ;P

The floor is lava!

Hopefully I'll have Nyx done cooking tomorrow so I can start working on Mastery again. Until then... credit 'o farmin' I go.

NEED DOUBLE CREDIT WEEKEND PLOX! Damn Perrin Sequence is robbing me blind along with having to build this stupid archwing.

Thinking that's the best policy going forward considering our zeal to revive our fallen comrade resulted in the lemming death of the rest of us.

If you are not playing to kill a teammate with the lasers you are doing it wrong. I think some of the best laughs I've had in my life are killing people with the lasers then being revenge killed.

Good thing none of you sadists are on when I am.  :awesome_for_real:

http://www.gamersgate.com/games?prio=relevance&q=warframespring

FYI:
Warframe packs are 66% off through that site.

~$7 gets you:

    300 Platinum to use toward new Warframes, Archwings, weapons, pets, and more
    30,000 Credits to assist in making new upgrades to your arsenal
    5 Random Mod Cards to instantly upgrade your inventory
    Affinity Booster and Credit Booster to quickly level up your Warframe, Archwing, and weapons for 3 days

for the honor pack. Not bad considering the cost of plat from DE.

The other packs are more $ but offer more stuff.

Keep in mind that if you've already bought this pack at some point, and it's been around for a while, you can not actually activate it again.  Big huge reminder on the page there, but this is mostly a heads up for anyone that might have bought it before on steam previously.

Ah yes. Sorry, I am still new to the scene. Good point, that.

Jolt is on the Void Trader.  Don't fall for anyone selling it in trade chat. 

Double XP weekend.

Every time I try to get out - they pull me back in.  I'll have to check out the Gamersgate stuff.  I've burned through a the majority of my Prime Access lucre already.


But seriously - beyond Forma Project 2015 on teh wepz I don't have that many actual frames left to level.  Excalibro and Nova I think.  My Frost Prime is level 8 but I refuse to level him because then I'll feel obligated to become Snow Globe bot.  Still, bonus weekends are win.

(http://i.imgur.com/rn4qQKU.jpg)

Weeeeee.

Finally back home after a week at a conference, and there's a good chance I'll actually have free time to finally play this again. 

I picked up that $13 package and the stacked XP boost is nuts. I am getting a level per invasion mission and I am usually the one lagging behind. Sadly, I have no resources to build other frames and only have to finish Banshee and Nyx before the weekend is up, but I have a few weapons ready to go for leveling. Hopefully can get mastery level 6 by Sunday night, but that seems like a long shot since I just did M4.

If you need resources we can help you farm them. The rares ones usually have the highest drop chance from bosses which means you'll be getting warframe component blueprints as well (which will need more resources to make...).

I should really qualify that in saying I have no frame bps which take 3 and a half days to cook anyway, so no worries. I actually have 12 neural sensors and 9 neurodes. Nothing I need right now takes argon crystals so I am actually ok. Forma bps and forma is still outta reach though.  :oh_i_see:

Well - I recall you saying your playtime is mainly weekends, but if you can jump on PST in the evenings on the weekend someone will probably be online.  Just having a partner will open up opportunities for mission runs and planet unlocks, which will yield you some resources and mods.  If there's at least a couple of us around we can get into low level Void runs, or middle-ish level Interceptions an such which will potentially get you forma's, orokin cells, gold cores and so forth.  Not to mention whatever rando mods you pick up in the missions with a potential for a rare mod or two. (You WILL get a Power Throw). 

Short version: if you have some time to play and there's at least a couple people playing you can get into a farming group setup - you'd be surprised how much loot you can accrue after just a few runs.       

Went to login today so I could start building my Valkyre since you guys were able to get me all the components and resources for it yesterday.  Buy the blueprint and realize I"m flat broke, 3k credits.  I need 25k to start building.  That made me sad.

Sell excess junk mods.  It can add up fast depending on how many ammo drums or fast reloads you've been hoarding.

Save at least one Ammo drum for trading.  :awesome_for_real: :grin:

Also, if you have any duplicates of the various blueprints, you can sell them as well.

Yeah credits was the gating resource for me when I restarted playing too. If you are willing to spend some real-life money to cut down on the grind in-game the credit booster is very handy. The $50 Prime Access accessories pack comes with a 90 day affinity (XP) booster and a 90 day credit booster which will double your affinity and credit rewards. You can also buy shorter duration boosters for platinum from the Market.

Void missions in general offer better credit rewards than the planet missions and Void capture missions in particular are good for farming credits since they can usually be completed very quickly once you are familiar with the tileset. In EC people tend to save their Void capture keys for double credit weekends but we can run some to get you enough credits to build the frame components and the frame itself. You can also hang out in the recruiting channel and join other people's void missions with the non-endless ones usually being the more efficient ones to run for the credits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFKeY1GJ8IA

and that kids... is how you run a T1 capture.

Dark Sector tributes have been removed (https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/419485-april-20-update-psa-pvp-20-dark-sector-armistice/page-6#entry4935831). Let the credit farming begin!

This.  Not going to lie - I run with an Affinity booster about 50% of the time I play, the other 50% I alternate over to a cred booster.  If you have the means (and aren't opposed to spending RL cash just on principle) these boosters can really make a difference.  I'm not saying you need to run out and buy a Prime Access pack to play the game or anything, but the effect of the boosters are noticeable.

P.S. - I bought one of the Gamersgate packs and it came with boosters, including a resource booster (which I didn't notice when I purchased it).  I now have 47 neurodes and 34 neural sensors.  :grin:  Might be worth cycling in a resource booster in the future now and again!

I don't mind paying real life cash for a game I'm enjoying, especially if it means I'm more likely to enjoy the time I am playing.  Just gotta wait till my next credit card cycle.

There's some sort of new Tactical Alert up - red text was trolling everyone in General.  Not sure of the details yet but just a heads up all.

https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/446004-pc-operation-false-profit/

I don't get it.  Sounds like an easy thing to mess up with the awesome context menu and end up pissing away a lot of credits.

Well, in the small amount I've messed with it so far tonight:

- Bursa appeared in 2 of 4 missions I ran when I was solo.  I could tell if it was going to spawn because you get a little Nef Anyo vignette within 10-30 seconds of mission entry.
- Not too hard to pick them out visually, they are bigger, bulkier MOA's.
- Not too hard to stun either.  Once it seemed my Kubrow bit him and stunned him, another time I did a "jump kick".
- Dunno about the "transfer" part.  However I did have the offering equipped in a gear slot and got a little video of Anyo jabbering while I hacked the MOA.  My bet is I missed that step.
- Hacking - use Ciphers.
- The keeping alive part is what I kept failing on.  :oh_i_see:  Mobs mysteriously come out of the woodwork after the hack, and I guess the self-damaging thing was occurring although I couldn't really tell as I was spazzing around after the hack period.

I'd say Frost, Mesa / Nyx / Loki and your mates might be needed for this to go smoothly. (I tried with my Mesa ultra Shooting Gallery build and Loki using an IR build and failed both times)

Does Well of Life work on them?

Why did this thing have to occur on the weekend I move? WHY?

I guess I can bring an unmodded amprex to shock the bastards.

Apparently Valkyr's Paralysis will stun it and then you can use Hysteria if you have issues staying alive while you wait for the transfer to complete.

Edit: note you will likely have to cast Paralysis multiple times before it will be stunned. Not sure if that's cause they have invulnerability frames during some of their attacks or if that's part of their innate CC resistance/diminishing returns.

This is fairly tedious. Seems the transfer rate is higher the more people you have in squad - took forever with 4 last night. Supposedly the future and even THEY can't get uploading and downloading wireless speeds right.

Also, sentinels and kubros can and will kill the Bursa so unequip sentinel weapons and get rid of the doggies since they can attack if owner is attacked. And no AoE guns. And keep the thing stunned the whole time but have each person stun it because of diminishing returns. Yeah... tedious.

It seems the transfer rate may depend upon what keys people bring.  Four 100k keys takes longer but gives everyone a lot more credits.  (If it doesn't keep glitching and getting "out of range", in which case even a 4k group will take forever.)

The transfer rate is based on the combined credits in the offerings. If you want the shortest transfer everybody should have the 1000 credit offering equipped. The easiest way to wait out the transfer that we found is to stay near the Moa so it doesn't wander but break LoS to avoid the knockdown spam. Some of the Moas have other AoEs that that doesn't work as well for but you can usually find someplace to avoid must of the stuff. You can bring a Frost or Nova to try and keep it slowed but most of us that we're doing it together last night just used Valkyr.

The Moas also apparently scale in level based on your event points. Not sure if it's the host's points or the sum of all the squad members' points. That might explain, though, why Rasix and I were having difficulty killing the Moa after the tranfer finished as I was over 1000 points near the end of our runs.

I'm not sure I would bring the higher credit offerings.  It bugged out 3 times in a row last night with a group of 4.  It didn't seem to bug out at all when it was just Trippy and I.  

Part of the reason we were having problems killing it is that it can kind go invincible at times, and I kept getting killed.  Trinity is OK, but someone like Frost or Rhino is going to be better once you need to kill it.  Link doesn't prevent you from getting chain cc'd by that dumb thing.   Stunning it during the transfer period would probably help.

This is such an awful event and just an awful concept in general.  It's so goddamn cheesy.  

That explains the slow crawl last night. 1k credit offerings from now on.  :awesome_for_real:

The "bonus" credits thing that some of you got with the 300K+ credit reward was patched out when they fixed the offering consumption / able to give offering from gear menu bugs.

It may be worth bringing something when the Moas are very high level that can safely lower their HPs during the transfer phase to speed up the kill time.

Well then, I'll just bring 1k credits after I use my last key.  It's not like I really need them.  More I want the Vandal.

So the mods are nothing but gold impact mods. I dunno how I feel about that.

They are totally worth getting unless you are a casual player who is never going to Forma a weapon. I haven't done an impact weapon analysis but the previous +90% damage (at max rank) type event mods have proven to be very useful. They are also extremely valuable to collect. E.g. the complete set of unranked Operation: Gate Crash (http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Operation:_Gate_Crash) slash event mods goes for about 1000 platinum right now.

The Nemesis skin has finally made its appearance in the game for Nyx (and NyxP).

Been waiting a long time for this since the original Excaliber Proto skin. All for 150platinum in the marketplace.

The ghosts of both Hayden and Nadia are now back in Warframe.

Hmm...not sure it looks as nice as the Excaliber one but I'll probably still get it.

More pictures (http://imgur.com/S9iHbjF,trVi8Z0,VigDW83,hAFmwae,CId10T7,izualZg,MOXhd4H,7WR5f8Y).

(http://i.imgur.com/EkXvsR8.jpg)

They made the Event harder with this latest hotfix :awesome_for_real:

https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/446817-hotfix-1643-credit-reimbursement-2/

This also happened however, so I'm hoping it can be done faster now:

Yeah apparently you can earn up to 300 points in a successful run now if your Bursa is at max level (100). Unfortunately that also means the Bursa will be spawning more level 100 bodyguards around it.

Welp, that's depressing.

Come on!! FUN!! EXCITING!! grind!!

Maybe they can retroactively apply the 300ish event points I didn't receive from last night as part of a "fix"  :oh_i_see:

Tonkor + Mirage.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82533/hehehe.jpg)

:drillf:

I'm going to be putting it on a Mirage specter, too...

 :ye_gods:

It might be because I am slightly OCD, but it really irks me that a lot of missions that don't warrant it (like capture) have constantly respawning enemies.  Between that and the repeating tiles it's very hard to figure out what rooms I've cleared and explored and which ones I haven't yet.

I'm the same way.  When I play solo I like to methodically clear rooms, check side corridors, know where I'm at in relation to the exit and so forth.  I'm kind of phobic about leaving live mobs behind me for fear of getting attacked from my 6 while I'm engaging a gang of mobs up front - or getting the piss scarred out of my while I'm hacking a console and a MOA finds me.

I've noticed that when I play with others however, that this process isn't always the case (most of the time it's not actually).  When grouped up - there's a flow / feel to the run as to when to stand and gun down every single thing or poke around in the side corridors, or when to sprint / copter / stun what's in front of you and scamper along.  Sometimes this is taken to the extreme and people will Wormhole or Volt speed their way through the tileset without stopping at all, like there's a prize for reaching the exit in the quickest amount of time or something; that's counter-productive but that's another topic   

I'll admit I'm not very good at making the "kill or run" call yet, but I'm working on adjusting my playstyle to fit the group I'm in.  And being honest with myself I can see where sometimes if the goal is just to complete the mission I don't absolutely need to kill every single mob and see every room. (But I really want to)

Short version: I'm the same as you but I'm finding that I'm not always able to play that way when I'm with others because I'll lag behind and either get overwhelmed by mobs or get so far behind the group I can't contribute to the mission goal so I'm trying to learn a new groove  :oh_i_see:

When I'm solo on most maps I like opening as much stuff as possible and some Spy missions I'll play as stealth* missions which can take a while. When I'm with a group I just do whatever most of the rest of the group is doing -- I don't like being the person that makes the rest of the team wait at extraction.

In pubs I do wait at the boss in fast kill Assassination missions if I'm ahead since people may miss the boss drops. As a newbie I disliked people rushing the Phoroid or Alan V kill when I was lagging behind. If I'm grouped with EC people though I don't bother to wait  :awesome_for_real:

Edit: * stealth as in creeping around and not relying on invis / silence for stealth kills

Yeah I'm only like that when solo, since when group after the first 5 seconds everyone is already way ahead of me and I'm struggling just to catch up most of the time :P

When I first got into the game, I was the vacuum guy. No idea how to slide/copter/sprint-slide. I would just run behind and collect all the drops. It got to the point where I had no clue about sniper mobs or any of the high tier rarer mobs.

Off on a tangent here a bit but - for more stealthy type play or, maybe "strategic" ways to finish missions - adding sound suppressing mods to your weapons (or just using silent weapons too I guess) opens up some interesting play-throughs.  You can synergize this type of stuff with a Huras stealth doggie or a Shade sentinel, and frames like Banshee (Silence) or Ash.  Or just go fullblown and use Loki.  Again, this isn't min / max ima-stay-60mins-in T4surv-bruh-lulz play but it is fun.  Plus it's good practice for Spy 2.0 missions. 

Loki+Hushed Invisibility+Huras+sound suppression mods = yummy Stealth kill Affinity and potential Elemental mod rewards

Decided to give this a try last night after the last several pages. This game is weird. Entertaining, but weird. I've taken to calling me main bad guy "king daisy flower-head" mentally. The lady who guides me is "lady visor vision" 

They could do a lot more to get you started in on the game systems for sure.

I apparently picked-up an upgrade and these little card things which I guess are mods in the first two missions. How the hell do I use them? Also, the game keeps asking if I want to apply my Steam pack. I tell it yes and it asks me again if I relog* or switch zones. Wtf am I missing? Is there a noob guide I missed earlier?


* Seems there's some glitches to watch-out for, as well. I had to restart the beginning mission twice because the door you were supposed to go through after activating the console closed on me twice with no way to reopen it. The only way of doing so was killing the program and restarting. Oops?

Walk straight to the back of your ship (down the ramp) and stand on the Arsenal platform and press X (assuming PC). In the Loadout section on the left side mouse over the picture of your Warframe and select "Upgrade". Drag a mod from the bottom list to one of the eight slots above (ignore the very top middle slot that's by itself, that's for Aura mods which you won't have at this point).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHbD4-KI_A4

Warfarm is a very DIY game in terms of learning, welcome.

You probably picked up some mods (cards) but until you get on your ship and progress through the 'tutorial,' you do not have access to the mod station on your ship. Once you get the missing station for your ship, you can equip it and then start putting mods on your gear.

Yes. Glitches. Glorious, frustrating glitches. (yeah, you get those from time to time).

Join the clan, definitely more fun with more people, and much easier to figure out wtf is going on (though you have to not mind being useless a bit :) )

Yes, join the clan.

Though I'm currently shuffling the barracks as part of a dojo redesign, so it'll be a day or two before we can admit you.

Oh wait, are you KC, Lantyssa (sorry, forgot a lot of people who told me what their f13 names were :P)

Yes I am. :-)

Go ahead and send me an invite or whatever for the clan when able. Not sure how much time I'll devote to this game but it'll be in rotation for a while for the time being. 

Names' Merusk same as the last 20 years. ( :ye_gods: )

Did the EC TS server go down? Wasn't able to connect to it last night.

No idea about later, but it was on and working last night when I logged off at 10:30p EST.

Yeah it went down for about 10 minutes or so while we were doing a mission.  I'm guessing you tried to join right at that time.  Probably around 11:30-ish est or so.

It was down at 10pm PST onward.  Trippy and I couldn't ignore each other in TS.  :awesome_for_real:

Seems like since I got the Tonkor, no one wants to play anymore.  :why_so_serious:  I'll stop forma'ing it after this.  I promise.  :grin:

edit: I haven't been using Split Chamber.  I need to do this. 

I'm totally leveling my Tonkor right now, and I'll be throwing forma in it for sure.

Storm Barracks should be going up in an hour, so by tomorrow evening we can invite people again.

Yeah, sorry, it's not actually due to the tonkor in my case.  I've just been really tired lately so I've mostly been crashing on the couch playing console games  :geezer:

How long before the nerf bat comes for that toy next?  :why_so_serious:

I am not getting caught up with the grenade launcher thing so if anyone wants my Firestorm mod, let me know.

The game seems to think that everyone needs a break. There have been a general lack of worth while alerts lately.


Umm..  SURE.   Of course, we're never on at the same time.

 :ye_gods:

No.

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Also Firestorm works for more than just the grenade launchers so you probably want to keep it. The full list is: Ignis, Ogris, Penta, Torid, Opticor, and Tonkor.

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Oh good point. I could use on the Opticor but it wasn't specifically listed, though it makes sense given its blast component. Thanks for the info.

Man, my new Valkyr is squishy.  Kinda hard to level a frame with no shield, where level five mobs kill you pretty easily if you are not careful

Ah, Valkyr.

Valky is very tough...but...you need some mod base to get her where she needs to go.

Firstly, forget shields. Valk is about effective health--armor and health. You can hit something like 99.7% damage reduction with steel fiber and warcry, depending how you build her.

The three key mods are maxed steel fiber, maxed vitality, and rage. Rage is where your energy is going to come from. You WILL constantly take damage, so you need the effective health to survive it to fill your power pool to keep warcry up and activate hysteria when things get ugly. Everything else is personal preference, but you'll find you'll be trading off power, range, and duration to find a comfort zone for your gameplay.

I like a moderate duration build and just spam powers as needed (I run at 50% efficiency, relatively high power for the AC boost from warcry and hysteria asswhoopery, then use natural talent to keep warcry up without the long cast time hassle). If you can get Eternal Warcry, that'll cure the cast and duration issues, but I don't roll with that syndicate (yet). 

Lastly, hysteria benefits from power, melee weapon damage, attack speed (outside buffs like warcry and berserker stacks before casting hysteria--it doesn't proc under hysteria) and all crit statistics on said melee weapons. There are a variety of good melee weapons for Valkyr, but using high crit weapons for berserker is generally the best bet. The Scindo Prime is by far the best melee weapon for Valkyr, but there are a number of good ones.

Also, once you hit level 10, it all becomes easy mode, since you're effectively unkillable with hysteria running.  Getting to 10 is the harder part.

Yeah, Steel fiber, Vitality, and Phsyique (cause that's the main stance I have) are what I'm planning on.  Problem is right now at level 3 I don't have the capacity to to use the former two yet (even with the Physique in), so I'm just trying to survive enough to level it up to where I can mod it up.

Valkyr is dreadful early on. Having good armor is limited without a way to recover health which means level 10, or preferably 20, hysteria is required before she works. You also need rage or you can be power starved. Put on a shield mod and play her cautiously through the early levels and she blossoms nicely. Also steel charge and melee weapon add to hysteria damage though it's a while before that really matters.

I level all my frames to 10 by running Lares on Mercury twice (usually hit lvl 6) then a run or two through Apollo on Mercury which usually nets me lvl 10-11. Just bring your best weapons and stick around the group for xp leeching. Rage is going to be a bitch to get unless you can find a friend/clan mate that will let you have it. Napalms are one of the worst mobs in the game and drop rate is really low. That said, seeing it drop was one of the best moments in the game for me. I'll be farming for that mod soon enough.

I've gotten rage from void containers several times. Though, you won't be going there in a new Valkyr. Nevertheless, if you can run voids, it's a potential drop there if you're inclined to search out the treasure rooms.

I'll second the Lares comment. It's a goto spot for me for new or freshly forma'd warframes and weapons. Two defenses of 4 rounds each should easily have you at level 10 and should net you a few T1 keys into the bargain. After that, you can do what you want, though I like a few Apollodorus runs to get things moving along nicely (figure 20-40 minutes depending what your team can handle or seems inclined to).

One thing to consider later on is changing the polarity of Valkyr's aura. Though steel charge is pretty good for her, switching to corrosive projection should be strongly considered if you're doing a lot of endless content. It's better as armor levels get very high. Another options if you don't mind pumping a lot of forma into Valk is to remove the polarity from the aura slot altogether for more aura flexibility (like Nekros). This will mean another forma or two to fit everything in, but might be worth it if you do a lot of stuff not involving grineer at high levels.

You're on the right track - just suffer through a few runs leeching and scrounging kills and you'll get there.  I still do Apollodorus runs to level brand new frames.  Just stay close to the group (or whoever isn't shooting all over the map at top speed that you can follow easily) and get you some roll-over kill XP. 

Just a note on frame leveling - killing mobs with a frames power directly results in 100% of the affinity going to your frame.  Kills with weapons, for example, will split up the affinity between your frame and weapons.  It's not going to be possible to do this all the time, but if you make an effort to get kills using direct damage from your frame you'll notice you'll gain frame levels a bit quicker. 

Also - 3 affinity booster = 40 plat.  Just mentioning.

I sent you an invite in theory.

I tend to level up frames on earth... having extra neurodes never hurts. and if you are focused on the xp it's easier to ignore how rare they are.

I'm not sure about forma'ing valks slot to take corrosive projections. Barring luck it will be a while before you get that mod, a while before you need it and then you start to realize that valkyr's killing rate is slow and there's a reason she's not high up on the end-game totem pole (though being able to do revives under fire is nice).
 

I use Valkyr as a support "Oh shit" frame and to draw fire from others.  Plus she's fun.

Second the fun thing. She IS fun.

I wouldn't take the communities' opinion on the meta too seriously. Most don't know their collective ass from a hole in the ground. Valkyr can do very well at high levels in the game, but one has to keep in mind she had very little control outside of just being there. If you're just running around killing stuff, she's fine. If she simply has to be somewhere and stand her ground (interception nodes), she's fine. If she actually has to defend something and keep fire from an objective...not so much.

Valkyr is simple in concept, but there is some depth in how to build her because of how weird hysteria is when it comes to maximizing it.

Valkyr is fun.. no doubt, and my preferred solo frame.

I'd like to update that atrocious thread OP with everyone's IG name mainly because I want to add whoever is playing. Basically I'm the NSA or something.

Also I should probably fix that FAQ that refers to warframe abilities being mods, they were once long ago...

But yeah Warframe sure has added a ton of shit. I'm in one of my 1-5 week spurts of playing it. So someone screenshot the f13 clan roster and anyone not in the f13 clan post your name here and I'll put it in the first post?

I think it would be easier to have you give us your in game name and we can add you to our friends list personally and/or you join our gaming group in Evil Chickens. We still play daily/nightly.

Late nightly if you live on the East Coast.  :oh_i_see:

It's a PST group, although everyone seems to go to bed somewhat early.  Lightweights.

Everyone was off 2h earlier than I got on at 9:30 EST last night. Ah well, that's what weekends are for.

There's a group of us including Rasix and I that play later though I haven't been playing as much the last few days cause I've been sick.

I've been wimping out early for the past week or two; been kind of hung over from work stress and need more rest.  Usually play PST til about 11:30pm or so.  Rasix and Trippy are the PST late night cham-pee-ownz though.

In game name: Mandelbrodt

Yeah, I'm in a similar boat, although it's because I'm in the middle of packing for a move.  Might also be without internet this weekend depending on how the installation goes on friday.   :roll:

Heh, and I'll be out a week starting Friday.  Hooray for summertime gaming.

I feel a 2x Credits weekend coming up :awesome_for_real:

Most likely.  Or they'll fuck up and the void trader will come a week early toting along High Voltage (in which case buy me an extra, damnit).

Oh please no. I have to do Mom's Day stuff all weekend.  :oh_i_see:

My name in warframe is Hoax415, I was thinking of putting everyone's names into the first post hence asking.

My ingame name is Sloan441. I'm usually around nights and most weekends.

I probably won't be on in the next few days, since my vid card on my main rig packed it in Sunday and I'm waiting on its replacement (may be in today; may not). Probably will be on this weekend, assuming nothing unforeseen crops up in the GPU replacement.

By the way, although we do have a crew of about 4 playing around 9-11 PST, we also have a group of east coast players that hang about between 5-8 PST. Granted, its patchy in spots, so please, join us to fill in the gaps. This game is really meant to be played with others.

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https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/453342-hotfix-1645/

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That's it, I'm done.  :why_so_serious:  For the record, I never directly killed anyone.

No, but you did indirectly throw me into a laser once  :oh_i_see:

There should be an option to let it affect you or not.  I LIKE being bounced around by Tonkors.

He also twice managed to get Flood stuck into a tree where he wasn't able to be rezzed after he died :grin:

That could have been Engels.  He was Mirage-Tonkoring, while I was merely solo-Tonkoring.  

I managed to knock myself into that tree a few times.  Again, this could have been Engels.  It's hard to know who did what in the confusion that is tier 4 defense.

Can confirm.  I did get lodged on top of the trees twice (who knew it was a flat object up there?)  :ye_gods:

But, in all seriousness, that was why the Tonkor needed the hotfix.  You're out front engaging mobs with a shorter range weapon, hoovering loot, or trying to catch a large clump with one of your frames powers -Tonkor users are firing into / toward said group of mobs...flying circus time.  And, as Tonkoreostro Master Rasix mentioned, it was T4 Defense which means there are a grip (yeah bro!!1!) of mobs swarming all over each round on static avenues of approach, which increases the chances of being tonkorpulted.  I like the weapon a lot and never had the troll hatred (maybe because I stopped PUG'ing due to the clan) but I'm glad it got hotfixed.

Besides a certain amount of friendly trolling is expected and accepted amongst regular groups anyway.  Multiple 20+ minute missions need to be spiced up.  I may slot a max range Valkyr Ripline build specifically for this reason.  

edit:  I somehow ended up on the wrong page, whoops.

PuGs are my specialty given my play times during the week. Never had a single issue with the Tonks. Sure I have been blown through the roof on a few maps, but it never reached the annoyance levels of Limbo's bubble.

As soon as it became apparent this was a pocket bounce pad that anyone could use, you KNEW it was going to get changed. It was going to happen. No question about it.

My personal experience with Tonkor-wielders wasn't too bad, but I can see where a lot of annoyance and frustration was going to come in when you run across tenno with no self-restraint whatsoever (and one look at the forums every time Baro appears shows you just how many of this sort are out there).

Mostly, if I got bounced I considered it an opportunity for a heavy melee "death-from-above!" attack, which is always cool. On the other hand, the jackhole who kept shooting at my Saryn when she was trying to reload quickly got on my last nerve and sparked a miasma pogrom that pretty much left nothing for anyone else to kill. Hey, you don't screw around with the Princess of Poison (armor/rage Saryn builds can be devastatingly effective, even if they're not the current meta).

Still, it was going to happen. Only question was how long until DE got around to dealing with it. At least they didn't let this go on as long as the Synoid Gammacor foolishness.

But but but that broke the game! It removed that weapon ENTIRELY!   :why_so_serious:

Heh, yeah, I've heard that.

Mine still kills like a laser bandsaw, but, hey, opinions vary.

Also: I am now TITAN powered. Wooo. Main rig back online, kicking pixel ass and taking fill rate names. My bank account is now burned to the ground, but I'm TITAN powered!

All I know is that I have a new line in my sig.

Too bad you can't attach an audio clip of my insane giggling the first match I saw one in action.

Every single time I think I'm about free...

So, a second event on top of the current one going on.  This one rewards a full set of kubrow stuff and the wraith strun comes back out of the vault.  There's also a promo code for a credit booster:  DENOFKUBROW

 :ye_gods: :ye_gods: :ye_gods:

There is also an eagle mod promo code floating around: TennoSkoom (I hope that's right...) I got two archwing mods that I can use out of it so that's cool...

So the Kubrow thing - the mission is on Earth, and you can only equip a melee weapon.  The special twist is...it's foggy.  Foggy means the first time I ran the mission I went, "Uh is my video card starting to go?"  Not foggy like, vapor affects no no, everything is desaturated and flat with a lot of things seeming to be missing textures.  It certainly makes it difficult to see.  The tileset contains low-ish level (around level 25 I think) grineer mobs - specifically: powerfirsts, scorpions, butchers and flamethrower guys.  In other words, nothing that is going to actually shoot at you.  Which is good because you can't see very far and they just sorta materialize out in front of you.

Then there are the feral kubrows.  I'm not 100% sure how strong kubrows usually are on the stock tileset, but for the mission they seem decently tough to melee down (armor / defesne / HP boosted?) and if they get a bite or two off on you it really hurts.  I've also seen some that appeared to be flaming, or on fire, and the status effect could be applied to you when you're melee'ing them.  I don't think they were special bad-ass "firebrows" - I think they were just still on fire from engaging the aforementioned flamethrower grineer mobs, and since they have an assload of HP they were still alive when I ran in there melee'ing wildy because I CAN'T SEE SHIT.  Tactical mission points are awarded based on how many kubrows you kill.  I'm not exactly sure how that's calculated but I do know more kubrow kills = more mission points.  100 points awards you the Strun Wraith.  300 points awards the kubrow only "Bite" mod and a Stratos emblem or emblem hash mark if you already have one.  If there's a tier beyond that I can't say as I haven't progressed that far yet.

So to summarize so far:

- Log in, get an email from the Lotus, has kubrow eggs attached.  Neat.
- Go to Earth, get annoyed by low level grineer mobs interfering with my hunting for feral kubrow dens in THE FUCKING FOG.
- Agghh Fire kubrows biting me!
- Repeat mission to earn points.
- Try out things like Sonar (Banshee), Enemy Radar and Enemy Sense to mitigate THE FUCKING FOG.
- Low armor frames....ow kubrow bites.
- After 6 runs a kubrow egg actually drops from a den.  Too bad I already have them in my inventory from the Lotus email and can't pick it up!  Cool!
- Eyes start hurting trying to play hide go seek with feral kubrows / dens.
- Come here to piss and moan.


I'm usually a DE apologist but the kubrow thing is lame and annoying.  And - I can't tell if I'm done with the damn Tubemen mission, no matter how many times I run it.  :facepalm:

Tubeman - Run 3/3 in a set to get a point.  It's awarded when the round is complete by players moving the total wins to 100%.  Then you can do a new set.  4 sets will get you whichever weapon the community picks, which right now will probably be the Wraith.

We've seen things like the kubrow event before. The fog is what it is, but it's easier to see during the day than at night. Night...yeah, fumble around in the fog and just hope you don't get bitten too much.

Since you are going up against lvl20ish vampire kubrows, I would suggest bringing warframes with armor, health, and have life strike on your melee or a warframe with some sort of recovery (Trin, Sayrn, equilimbrium, etc.).

I've done the event with Saryn, Trinity, and (mostly) Valkyr. Very easy, despite little to no visibility. I thought link would help. It did some, but the kubrow tend to find you and the grineer are just there. Valk worked out best, though if you like nuking your way to victory without pesky melee and have regenerative molt, then Saryn is your dogkiller. I was teamed with a Banshee once and sonar did help quite a bit. I thought about running my own equilibrium/stun Banshee, but, eh, Valky was working out just fine.

I've done just fine with Mirage as well.  Bonus is that her number 2 power makes dens shimmer.

I figure Mirage would be damn near Valk invincible with eclipse. I haven't had an issue with Loki or Excal... though Excal got a little touch and go on one run.

edit: oh yeah... so I did the @100 for the Strun Wraith. Not sure if I care, though I hear it is a great shotty. I'll def level it for mastery. Now I have an additional @300 thing for bite mod and something else. Anyone past @300 points? Is there another @500?

No, it's over at 300.

The Bite mod seems to add damage as well as the listed crit and crit multiplier.

Yeah I tried a few different frames but finally settled on Excalibro, mainly because he's fairly hearty stat-wise and has some semi-useful CC.  I went Steel Charge and Tipedo for the higher slash damage.  The event wasn't hard, just tedious.  Bite is a great reward though.

If you do 6/3 do you get two points? Or do you have to wait for each reset to get the next point?

I would assume just 1 point, but I cant be hassled to do that. I stop at 3/3 and go about my usual business.

I started the event late, though, so I'm worried if I miss a reset I won't get all 4 points.

I *think* you only get 1 point per session.  Initially I ran the damn thing like 7 times and couldn't make out what was going on with the completions.  As KC said I think it's run 3 missions for a point, wait for the reset, and repeat until you hit four sets of completions.

Yes.  It is possible to get multiple per day if you time it right though, like a session in the morning and one in the evening.

Void trader is back on mercury.  He has high voltage and the mara detron and my god, I can barely afford one of them.

Whoa Mara Detron.

Is the trade tax is reversed now? The person receiving the platinum has to pay the tax now?

I come back to all of this shit.  Thanks, Hawaii.

I got High Voltage, the Detron, and the first leg of the Kubrow event.  Ohh, and the Catalyst/Reactor alert.  Now.. what else can I do before it all goes away.  :oh_i_see:

Why are they going in this cheeseball direction for the new content? I miss the old garbled Nef and Tyl.  At this pace, Kela De Thaym is either going to be a cheerleader or angry goth. 

And thanks for putting a reactor on one side of the tubemen debacle at like 6am.  Dicks.