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Reply #385 on: March 05, 2015, 05:39:36 AM


There's some low level exterminate arch-wing missions that are best for levelling up your arch-wing. The interception missions are not remotely soloable.

That said if you do have an archwing the new alert, while people are doing it, is an amazingly fast way to level up your archwing and hopefully get some mod cards for it.

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Reply #386 on: March 05, 2015, 11:45:27 AM

It was kind of fun to just do this for a night.  Still need about 120 points to finish up. 

Great source of fusion cores and levels for my archwing and it's weapons.  Plus I need a forma and catalyst badly.

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Reply #387 on: March 05, 2015, 01:59:10 PM

Here's the other thing: Even if you complete all 5-6 runs to complete the alert, you can still do it again with a friend who hasn't, and although you won't earn the rewards of the alert, you will still get the 5 gold fusion cores.

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Reply #388 on: March 06, 2015, 05:15:15 AM

Just finished the alert this last night. Had a pretty good time and finally maxed out my Itzal archwing.

I wasn't aware that the event would keeping coughing up R5 cores for more completions. Guess I know what I'll be doing this weekend. I've got a fair number of 10rank mods to max and Baro shows up tomorrow. Rumor is primed streamline is going to be a thing. Gotta have that one at least 9/10.

I like Archwing well enough, but the issue with it is it has no relation to the rest of the game (yet). It's just sorta there. Not much reason to fiddle with it until a TA like this one comes along. Unfortunately, then you're behind the curve unless you farmed the low level 'wing missions for mods and experience--which is way tedious. I realize DE is focused (ahem) on U16 right now, but they should be integrating Archwing into regular mission types. That would increase interest and allow more opportunities to farm the gear without dedicated grinding in mostly empty Archwing-only missions.
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Reply #389 on: March 06, 2015, 03:25:08 PM

There's some low level exterminate arch-wing missions that are best for levelling up your arch-wing. The interception missions are not remotely soloable.
There are several of us that can solo the Earth Interception.  Not with a completely new frame and weapon, but it is doable.

Now Uranus?  That's impossible to solo.

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Reply #390 on: March 06, 2015, 03:32:07 PM

There's some low level exterminate arch-wing missions that are best for levelling up your arch-wing. The interception missions are not remotely soloable.
Yes the Mars exterminate mission is doable even on a minimally ranked starter archwing with no mods.
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Reply #391 on: March 08, 2015, 04:42:23 AM

This Archwing Tactical Alert isn't too bad -- it's a lot easier than the previous heavy melee-only one. I got my Odonata up to rank 20 and decide to try out the alert and I joined one guy who was pretty much just soloing things and then a 3rd joined us later on (we had a 4th but he dropped or something). The AI doesn't seem that smart in terms of capturing points on these maps. They seem to focus on only one or two points (point B in particular seems to be a focus) rather than spreading out and trying to grab all of them like they do on the regular maps. The Ogma Elites also don't seem to be particularly dangerous.
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Reply #392 on: March 08, 2015, 10:44:18 AM

As long as you keep moving you're usually pretty good.  They can hit hard if you stop or get some unlucky hits.  (Like we had a near wipe in a chain reaction from trying to rez someone.)

That they tend to focus on one point is why the lower level ones can be soloed.  Interception is about hitting 100% first, so it doesn't matter if you lose some points for a bit, and with Itzals it is really easy to recap points anyways.

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Reply #393 on: March 08, 2015, 01:51:12 PM

DE has been fiddling with Archwing AI since release. They did used to scatter and take all the points at once. They also tended to mop the floor with the players, since they were very aggressive and there's no real cover or anyway to avoid incoming fire (at least back then).

Now they tend to flood one point for a long period of time and then sneak up on another one if they can't cap it in what seems to be a set time period. Kinda hard to say, but this is what it looks like on the receiving end.

The Ogma Elites aren't terribly dangerous...if you keep your distance. If you get froggy and try to melee, you'll find out differently PDQ. They become a much greater threat at high levels due to armor scaling. On the low end, they're pretty easy to deal with at distance with reasonably well modded guns.

A well modded Itzal can solo interception pretty well. Just have to keep your energy up and make liberal use of both the stealth and warp abilities. Fighter escort is entertaining, but Itzals really shouldn't be slugging it out with enemies. Vortex can be used to scavenge for orbs, resources, and can kill low level enemies outright, but its main utility is recharging health and energy after a fight when orbs are drifting about nearby.
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Reply #394 on: March 08, 2015, 03:45:14 PM

I like Archwing well enough, but the issue with it is it has no relation to the rest of the game (yet). It's just sorta there. Not much reason to fiddle with it until a TA like this one comes along. Unfortunately, then you're behind the curve unless you farmed the low level 'wing missions for mods and experience--which is way tedious. I realize DE is focused (ahem) on U16 right now, but they should be integrating Archwing into regular mission types. That would increase interest and allow more opportunities to farm the gear without dedicated grinding in mostly empty Archwing-only missions.
Yeah the Archwing stuff definitely feels half-assed right now. Things like killing yourself meleeing on the ship maps (though I suppose that's better than the alternative of getting stuck permanently in some geometry) and having to deal with the already horrible navigation system but now in 3-D. And then there are the mission affinity bonuses*. You want me to get how many headshots Lotus? 30 pistol kills? Now I know you are just trolling me Lotus.

* The regular missions have this issue too like the bonus for Hacking in Excavation missions but in the Archwing missions it's more frequent
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Reply #395 on: March 09, 2015, 01:29:44 AM

I mostly ignore the bonuses. Too many random things work against them.

If you can complete one and need the affinity, great. If not, then no great loss.

The devs  at PAX did address Archwing just hanging off one end of the game with little attachment to the core gameplay. Apparently, it was one of those design decisions made to get the system in the game and players kinda used to it before actually trying to integrate it into the game. The return of the J3 golem boss fight should see the first steps to having missions going (hopefully) seamlessly from indoors to out in space and back again.

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Reply #396 on: March 09, 2015, 06:30:22 PM

So I'm just getting back into this after playing back in the, beta(?), I think. Could I get a quick rundown on what's changed? There seems to be a lot of new content. Can new frames be crafted in a reasonable time, or would it be easier to just buy what you want. Same question for weapons.

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Reply #397 on: March 09, 2015, 06:35:29 PM

I'd say outside of clan dojo frames and hydroid/nekros, all the frames are rather quick turn arounds farming. That said, it will take you farming all the bps for each, 12hours for those if you do them all at the same start time, then buy the bp from the market for credits, then 3 day on that cook time. I have almost all the frames now and only used plat for nekros and mirage (mirage was the first frame I leveled to 30 when I decided the game was good enough to throw money at...at least the cost of a new game).

Weapons - I haven't delved into that too much, but top stuff is prime stuff that you can't get without farming Void. Otherwise the credit market on BPs for weapons is basically good enough. Clan dojo has some good shit if your clan has the research behind it. I am still searching for a clan over on my dirty console so I can't speak to build times.

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Reply #398 on: March 09, 2015, 06:40:33 PM

Not really sure why this has peaked my interest recently, but I've been looking at it a bit lately. 

How easy is it to get into and since what I read is that soloing is pretty hard (impossible for some things) how easy is it to transiently pug?  Do I have to actually socialize and schedule with people to really enjoy the game?
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Reply #399 on: March 09, 2015, 06:44:09 PM

Not really sure why this has peaked my interest recently, but I've been looking at it a bit lately. 

How easy is it to get into and since what I read is that soloing is pretty hard (impossible for some things) how easy is it to transiently pug?  Do I have to actually socialize and schedule with people to really enjoy the game?

Personal experience, I have 0 friends that play this game on PS4 so I am soloing and PuG playing. I have cleared the majority of the planets doing this and built the majority of my frames doing this. Higher level planets are where the shit gets dumb to find a PuG, but you can pound through it picking up a stealth frame. F2P so I'd say it is pretty worth it. A few cockblocks here and there, but those are just where the grind gets testy.

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Reply #400 on: March 09, 2015, 06:44:43 PM

So I'm just getting back into this after playing back in the, beta(?), I think. Could I get a quick rundown on what's changed? There seems to be a lot of new content. Can new frames be crafted in a reasonable time, or would it be easier to just buy what you want. Same question for weapons.


I don't think you should bother paying market plat for weapons, most of those are just farmable in a fashion.  The hard to get stuff are mostly primes (good luck getting the soma prime parts) or faction weapons and you can buy those off players.  That being said, the come with a slot and a potato, which is roughly a 26 plat value.

For frames, the starter frames are a decent value for purchasing, since they're only 75 plat and again come with a free slot (20 plat) and potato (20 plat).

The hard stuff to farm would be nekros, mirage, limbo or mesa.  Hydroid and vauban can be a bit of a bitch as well.  Primes are going to be somewhat of a problem too unless you have a good group, even then they take a decent amount of effort.

The key thing is to have an active clan.  Without one, this game is somewhat of a bitch and not really worth playing.  Solo nights when no one is on can be really boring and frustrating.  That being said, most pugs aren't too terrible.  It's just hard to get some content to pop, and void missions are invite only.
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Reply #401 on: March 09, 2015, 07:21:57 PM

ONE OF US ONE OF US

But seriously if you guys are interested in giving it a go there's a few of us that play pretty regular and can at least give you some of the basic mods and tips / info and such.  More the merrier.

Edit: this is on PC.
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Reply #402 on: March 09, 2015, 07:29:43 PM

Is there an f13 thing in-game?

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Reply #403 on: March 09, 2015, 07:30:55 PM

Sure whynot.  Downloading now via steam, I'm in the mood for something different.  Probably hop on late tonight or tomorrow evening if I can.

I'm assuming since it's a FPS, that even though it's out on consoles I really should prefer KB+M over controller?
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Reply #404 on: March 09, 2015, 07:35:48 PM

Yes you want KB+M. Warframe can be extremely fast paced and accuracy when shooting with most ranged weapons does matter.
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Reply #405 on: March 09, 2015, 07:42:00 PM

I'll let some of the other regulars chip here for specifics - but it's F13 people and some existing WF peoples as I can tell (I'm a newcomer to the group myself) in the in-game Clan and Team Speak.  The Clan I'm involved with isn't "F13" specific although there may be some folks who play that have somethinglike that set up I'm just not aware of.

You can use a controller (I think) with PC, but in my opinion anyway, KB / mouse is the way to go.  The action-shooty-parkour part of the game is very FPS'ish in game play.
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Reply #406 on: March 09, 2015, 07:48:20 PM

Just a disclaimer: beyond the tutorial, this game just kind of plunks you down in Oz.  Ask lots of questions and ask for help when you need to;  we're all more than willing to help out.

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Reply #407 on: March 09, 2015, 07:51:05 PM

So I'm just getting back into this after playing back in the, beta(?), I think. Could I get a quick rundown on what's changed? There seems to be a lot of new content. Can new frames be crafted in a reasonable time, or would it be easier to just buy what you want. Same question for weapons.
It depends on how far you got before you stopped and how much platinum you have or plan on buying. The standard advice of only buy slots and cosmetics with platinum cause everything else can be acquired in-game (including more platinum through trading) ignores those of us who bought platinum as a means of reducing the grind in the game. If you got enough mods ranked up that you can do some of the higher-level content pretty easily then it might be fine to farm for stuff rather than buy with plat. If you do have plat or plan on getting some I can write up what I've learned from spending some of my platinum so far.
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Reply #408 on: March 09, 2015, 08:16:43 PM

So I'm just getting back into this after playing back in the, beta(?), I think. Could I get a quick rundown on what's changed? There seems to be a lot of new content. Can new frames be crafted in a reasonable time, or would it be easier to just buy what you want. Same question for weapons.
It depends on how far you got before you stopped and how much platinum you have or plan on buying. The standard advice of only buy slots and cosmetics with platinum cause everything else can be acquired in-game (including more platinum through trading) ignores those of us who bought platinum as a means of reducing the grind in the game. If you got enough mods ranked up that you can do some of the higher-level content pretty easily then it might be fine to farm for stuff rather than buy with plat. If you do have plat or plan on getting some I can write up what I've learned from spending some of my platinum so far.


I have a level ~13 Loki frame and appropriate level weapons, that's about it. So I don't know where I stand on the power curve, but I figured I'd just do some pugs initially after the tutorial is over.

 * edit: in particular, I was looking at the 'paladin' frame (Oberon, I think?) as something that I'd like to play. I am however, not overly partial to grind =(
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Reply #409 on: March 09, 2015, 08:33:06 PM

Yeah you aren't ready for the higher level content. Mods are actually the gating factor, though you can buy those with plat too on the trading channel after you get to MR2. If you get either the 50% or 75% discount on plat that's something to consider if you want to reduce some of the grind. The Prime Access pack also includes discounted plat.
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Reply #410 on: March 09, 2015, 08:34:04 PM

Well, Oberon isn't "hard" to get but you'll have to run some missions to get all the required blueprints, and then also need to have the associated resources, which at your level will most likely require you to farm (IE - run more missions).  Or - you can just straight out buy the frame for plat.

Oberon isn't a very popular frame because he isn't a "top tier" frame and not really a min-maxer candidate, but I play him semi-regular and enjoy him.  He's considered a tank based on stats, and his powerset is kind of a generalist setup (DD, small AoE, Heal, big nuke).  Cool Frame visually though.
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Reply #411 on: March 09, 2015, 08:46:51 PM

Not really sure why this has peaked my interest recently, but I've been looking at it a bit lately. 

How easy is it to get into and since what I read is that soloing is pretty hard (impossible for some things) how easy is it to transiently pug?  Do I have to actually socialize and schedule with people to really enjoy the game?
Soloing is hard on many of the mission types when you are starting out. Pugging in my experience so far has actually been pretty good. I can only remember a handful of missions I've failed cause of bad pugs (a spy and a few defense and interceptions). You may ran into some issues with unlocking nodes to reach each planets' boss to unlock the next planet but if you are diligent in checking for open groups on the nodes you can't solo you should be able to get pretty far without having a regular group or clan. I'm not in the F13 clan yet and I've managed to unlock 7 of the 12 locked planets (not counting Mercury) doing the intermittent pug thing.

One tip is to check the different server regions (e.g. US East and US West) for groups. You can change this in the Gameplay settings. I've had luck switching to US East or Asia from US West to find groups depending on when I'm playing.

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Reply #412 on: March 09, 2015, 09:19:49 PM

Not really sure why this has peaked my interest recently, but I've been looking at it a bit lately. 

How easy is it to get into and since what I read is that soloing is pretty hard (impossible for some things) how easy is it to transiently pug?  Do I have to actually socialize and schedule with people to really enjoy the game?
Soloing is hard on many of the mission types when you are starting out. Pugging in my experience so far has actually been pretty good. I can only remember a handful of missions I've failed cause of bad pugs (a spy and a few defense and interceptions). You may ran into some issues with unlocking nodes to reach each planets' boss to unlock the next planet but if you are diligent in checking for open groups on the nodes you can't solo you should be able to get pretty far without having a regular group or clan. I'm not in the F13 clan yet and I've managed to unlock 7 of the 12 locked planets (not counting Mercury) doing the intermittent pug thing.

One tip is to check the different server regions (e.g. US East and US West) for groups. You can change this in the Gameplay settings. I've had luck switching to US East or Asia from US West to find groups depending on when I'm playing.



Rescue missions are the bane of my existence. I have failed those harder than any other... even spy missions.

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Reply #413 on: March 09, 2015, 09:47:07 PM

Yeah I've taken to playing those solo as a true stealth missions with Loki. Once inside the jail I stealth kill everybody before unlocking anything.

With Spy missions you get 3 tries so that makes them a lot easier solo since at least one setup isn't too difficult (and of course #LokiMasterRace makes even the hard ones easy). Pugging Spy missions on the other hand are kind of hit and miss.
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Reply #414 on: March 09, 2015, 10:33:47 PM

Yeah I've taken to playing those solo as a true stealth missions with Loki. Once inside the jail I stealth kill everybody before unlocking anything.

With Spy missions you get 3 tries so that makes them a lot easier solo since at least one setup isn't too difficult (and of course #LokiMasterRace makes even the hard ones easy). Pugging Spy missions on the other hand are kind of hit and miss.


I didn't even want Loki, but god damn his stealth invis ability makes all these missions easy as sin... add in the fact I have a Jat fully modded and it makes it even more laughable.

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Reply #415 on: March 09, 2015, 10:43:28 PM

His decoy switching combo is even more powerful than his invis in those missions I've found.
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Reply #416 on: March 10, 2015, 02:10:41 PM

Last night I kept seeing what looks like the Cephalon suda sigil pop up on my screen during a Vey Hek farm (screen would dim a bit and the icon/sigil would appear very briefly) but I wasn't fighting a syndicate mission. What does that mean when that appears?
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Reply #417 on: March 10, 2015, 02:28:25 PM

Are you using a syndicate weapon?  They send out a damage burst and have a recharge proc when you get enough xp while it's wielded.

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Reply #418 on: March 10, 2015, 02:30:11 PM

Just a reminder to folks; if you would like to play with the current small group of f13ers, send us a friend request in game, and a tell if you see us live. I'm Engels777 in game and I'm normally on after 7 pm PST weekdays and throughout the weekend.

Also, current f13 clan members can invite other f13ers without consulting us EC admins first. We regrettably trust your judgement, simply because our standards are even lower than yours could possibly be. Hop on TS and if WaveCrusher, Garga or myself are online we can rope 'em in.

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Reply #419 on: March 10, 2015, 02:38:44 PM

Are you using a syndicate weapon?  They send out a damage burst and have a recharge proc when you get enough xp while it's wielded.
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