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Reply #70 on: June 11, 2019, 05:36:07 PM

Any recent gameplay vids? I have been out of the loop with the E3 news and stuff so I might have missed it. And I am not putting confidence in cinematics anymore - Games rarely measure up.

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Reply #71 on: June 11, 2019, 06:01:57 PM

A new gameplay video will probably be published after E3 or during Gamescom (August) just like last year. As far as I know, At the E3 booth, they're showing two gameplay videos, one behind closed doors for the press, one public for the plebs.

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Reply #72 on: June 11, 2019, 06:50:53 PM

It's First Person camera only right? FPS gameplay videos tend to look all the same. In a good way. I'm very happy about the First Person camera.

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Reply #73 on: June 11, 2019, 07:33:17 PM

It's First Person camera only right? FPS gameplay videos tend to look all the same. In a good way. I'm very happy about the First Person camera.

Press already had the chance of taking a look at the new gameplay, no one mentions third person camera, so it's safe to assume it will stay first person.

[psst, Falc, very detailed gameplay report from Lega Nerd (italian language): https://leganerd.com/2019/06/11/cyberpunk-2077-anteprima-e3-2019/]   why so serious?

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Reply #74 on: June 12, 2019, 05:20:50 AM

One of the comments that flies around after trying the demo is "It's like Deus Ex with a 100000x budget".

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Reply #75 on: June 12, 2019, 07:17:58 AM

Yes, definitely (another exhaustive report...some spoilers about Keanu Reeves' character):

https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/cyberpunk-2077-e3-2019-gameplay/

While some are already criticizing the tone of that article, the author is basically saying  that they're not trying to push forward any genre or reinventing the wheel; they're simply getting even more in-depth with the game systems compared to their previous efforts (notably, The Witcher 3). And, like I said one year ago, that's perfectly fine for me, also being a "storyfag" sucker for well told stories  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?
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Also consider that, one year ago, they mentioned we should expect nothing less than what was offered in The Witcher 3 when it comes to both free and paid DLCs (which was a lot and of great quality). Maybe sneak in another interesting mini-game like Gwent and we're all set.
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Reply #76 on: June 12, 2019, 09:56:08 AM

...And then we have excerpts like this one from RPS:

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/06/12/cyberpunk-2077s-e3-demo-has-weak-gunplay-and-unimaginative-stereotypes/

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I’m also increasingly concerned about Cyberpunk’s handling of non-white cultures. Last year’s Gamescom demo drew criticism for its clumsy and inauthentic presentation of a Latino character, and I’m not convinced the Voodoo Boys are a step in the right direction. At one point V, the player character, mockingly says “and who are dem” in response to Placide’s pronunciation. I asked Tomaskiewicz if he was concerned they weren’t treating certain cultures with enough respect.

“Obviously we’re paying a lot of attention to representing different groups respectfully. You know, there’s always a risk. Of course we have it in the back of our heads that we need to be careful about this. We are contacting different consultants to learn about specific groups, and our company has a variety of people with different beliefs. As for The Animals, if you play through the game you’ll see that they’re not mostly black people, it’s mixed.”

He told me that most of the city were mixed race, but the backstory for this particular area concerned most people being immigrants from Haiti. By itself, that would be fine. But near the end of the demo, we meet a white man in a suit and tie who gives us the information we need. He also tells us the Voodoo Boys are going to turn on us the moment we’ve done their dirty work – and is immediately proved right.

The violent black thugs betrayed us, as the corporate white man said they would. If CD Projeckt are trying to subvert expectations – if the punchline is, but sometimes the thugs are really thugs – then it’s not one that lands.

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Reply #77 on: June 12, 2019, 10:06:12 AM

One of the comments that flies around after trying the demo is "It's like Deus Ex with a 100000x budget".

Stop it. My penis can only get so erect.

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Reply #78 on: June 12, 2019, 10:18:57 AM

One of the comments that flies around after trying the demo is "It's like Deus Ex with a 100000x budget".

Stop it. My penis can only get so erect.

It's not the intensity that gets you, it's the duration.  awesome, for real

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Reply #79 on: June 12, 2019, 11:31:55 AM

...And then we have excerpts like this one from RPS:

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/06/12/cyberpunk-2077s-e3-demo-has-weak-gunplay-and-unimaginative-stereotypes/

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I’m also increasingly concerned about Cyberpunk’s handling of non-white cultures. Last year’s Gamescom demo drew criticism for its clumsy and inauthentic presentation of a Latino character, and I’m not convinced the Voodoo Boys are a step in the right direction. At one point V, the player character, mockingly says “and who are dem” in response to Placide’s pronunciation. I asked Tomaskiewicz if he was concerned they weren’t treating certain cultures with enough respect.

“Obviously we’re paying a lot of attention to representing different groups respectfully. You know, there’s always a risk. Of course we have it in the back of our heads that we need to be careful about this. We are contacting different consultants to learn about specific groups, and our company has a variety of people with different beliefs. As for The Animals, if you play through the game you’ll see that they’re not mostly black people, it’s mixed.”

He told me that most of the city were mixed race, but the backstory for this particular area concerned most people being immigrants from Haiti. By itself, that would be fine. But near the end of the demo, we meet a white man in a suit and tie who gives us the information we need. He also tells us the Voodoo Boys are going to turn on us the moment we’ve done their dirty work – and is immediately proved right.

The violent black thugs betrayed us, as the corporate white man said they would. If CD Projeckt are trying to subvert expectations – if the punchline is, but sometimes the thugs are really thugs – then it’s not one that lands.

gawd.

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Reply #80 on: June 12, 2019, 11:40:33 AM

I'm super happy we had RPS's hipster white guy to tell us how we should feel about racial issues.



What a honky cuntface. You know that dopey hair is going into a manbun right after the photo was taken.

(I feel all commentary here is beside the point, since the game is clearly must-buy on the heels of arguably the best rpg ever made)
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Reply #81 on: June 12, 2019, 11:55:30 AM

He looks nice and punchable.

In any case, while I do agree such problems exist, I also don’t want to hear it from a honky cuntface.

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Reply #82 on: June 12, 2019, 12:00:54 PM

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At this point, I feel increasingly uncomfortable that we’re shooting at predominantly black people labelled as animals.

Regardless of who wrote that, I'm afraid I'd feel the same way. And I couldn't help wondering what are these fucking devs thinking?

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Reply #83 on: June 12, 2019, 01:32:29 PM

TBF to Hipster McCuntface up there, it isn't like the entirety of the Cypberpunk franchise of RPG books is clear of such "problematic" depictions. It's very '80's action movie in that regard. However, being that Mike Pondsmith is the creator of the franchise, has been heavily involved with it in all its iterations, is heavily involved with this one and is also African-American, it's safe to say that he's ok with problematic depictions and everyone else should just calm the ever living fuck down.

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Reply #84 on: June 12, 2019, 01:50:52 PM

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Reply #85 on: June 12, 2019, 02:23:16 PM

TBF to Hipster McCuntface up there, it isn't like the entirety of the Cypberpunk franchise of RPG books is clear of such "problematic" depictions. It's very '80's action movie in that regard. However, being that Mike Pondsmith is the creator of the franchise, has been heavily involved with it in all its iterations, is heavily involved with this one and is also African-American, it's safe to say that he's ok with problematic depictions and everyone else should just calm the ever living fuck down.

But, but....videogame drama!!  ACK! DRILLING AND MANLINESS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He09JaBVZdE (Letitia in Deus Ex: HR)

Not to mention the attacks toward Warhorse Studios (Kingdom Come) and the fact they didn't include any black person in their game (because of *researched* historical accuracy, as far as I know).
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EDIT: BUT WAIT...There's more!

https://www.polygon.com/e3/2019/6/12/18662443/cyberpunk-2077-trans-advertisement-cd-projekt-red-e3-2019 (this was already touched upon by the above mentioned RPS author; an in-game ad featuring a trans model)

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So I asked her: Why was a trans model used in this particular advertisement?

“Personally, for me, this person is sexy,” Redesiuk said. “I like how this person looks. However, this model is used — their beautiful body is used — for corporate reasons. They are displayed there just as a thing, and that’s the terrible part of it.”

Redesiuk said that the world of Cyberpunk 2077 includes many people who are gender-nonconforming, some of whom enjoy showing off their bodies in public. They are a demographic group with significant purchasing power, and so, megacorporations use their likenesses to sell soft drinks. It’s supposed to be a play on the same sort of hypersexualized advertising that modern companies use to sell products today, just brought in line with the kind of future CD Projekt wants to portray.
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Reply #86 on: June 12, 2019, 03:24:14 PM

TBF, the Kingdom Come dev was a racist shitbag regardless of what he put in his game or didn't. Or at least that's my understanding.

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Reply #87 on: June 13, 2019, 12:33:14 AM

Why can't we just shoot bitches in the face not based on the color of their skin, but by the content of their character?

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Reply #88 on: June 13, 2019, 12:47:11 AM

I'm super happy we had RPS's hipster white guy to tell us how we should feel about racial issues.



What a honky cuntface. You know that dopey hair is going into a manbun right after the photo was taken.

(I feel all commentary here is beside the point, since the game is clearly must-buy on the heels of arguably the best rpg ever made)

It's great we have you in here to go looking up some jouno's pic so you can take potshots about how he looks. You add so much value.

On the game itself. I tried to love TW3, but couldn't. If this is more of the same I'm afraid it probably won't work for me still.

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Reply #89 on: June 13, 2019, 01:44:59 AM

We really need to stop with this Political Correctness bullshit. We are talking about a fucking game where you play criminals in the seedy underbelly of society, and people are whining about unfair representation? I hope Trump kills us all soon with his idiocy, we deserve it.

Edit: Now with 50% less fucks given in the statement, for the children.
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Reply #90 on: June 13, 2019, 03:29:49 AM

Eh, I'm becoming immune to clickbait bullshit.

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Reply #91 on: June 13, 2019, 06:50:44 AM

+1 for not giving a shit about PC culture in my video games.

My biggest complaint about Witcher 3 was the awkward third person movement; since this is first person, I hope I don't have that problem.

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Reply #92 on: June 16, 2019, 08:36:24 PM

So, apparently Keanu Reeves has the 2nd most lines of dialogue in the game behind only the PC. That's surprising. I thought he'd be in it but not that much.

Info came from this article here: https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/06/14/cyberpunk-2077-keanu-reeves-has-the-most-dialogue-of-any-character-besides-you

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Reply #93 on: June 16, 2019, 08:42:26 PM

He says 'woah' 1,486,973 times.

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Reply #94 on: June 17, 2019, 07:09:48 AM

He says 'woah' 1,486,973 times.

That joke is about 2 decades out of date.

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Reply #95 on: June 17, 2019, 07:15:20 AM

He says 'woah' 1,486,973 times.

That joke is about 2 decades out of date.

Aren't we all.  Aren't we all.

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Reply #96 on: June 17, 2019, 09:14:24 AM

He says 'woah' 1,486,973 times.

That joke is about 2 decades out of date.
As an optimist, I prefer to see it as 58 years before its time.

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Reply #97 on: June 17, 2019, 11:25:30 AM

Lol, well played.

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Reply #98 on: June 17, 2019, 03:11:24 PM

I was thinking of getting this on PS4 (pro) because my pc's 970 and older cpu will likely cough on it...

...then I realized that it's fps and I hate fps with controllers (I prefer them for 3rd person).

Just some food for thought for the other grandpas.

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Reply #99 on: June 17, 2019, 03:30:37 PM

I was thinking of getting this on PS4 (pro) because my pc's 970 and older cpu will likely cough on it...

...then I realized that it's fps and I hate fps with controllers (I prefer them for 3rd person).

Just some food for thought for the other grandpas.

I don't know why but I like watching people play fps but I can't stand playing them. I don't think I ever knowingly bought a fps in my life. Was EQ1 first person? That may have been my first and last.
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Reply #100 on: June 17, 2019, 03:32:08 PM

I was thinking of getting this on PS4 (pro) because my pc's 970 and older cpu will likely cough on it...

...then I realized that it's fps and I hate fps with controllers (I prefer them for 3rd person).

Just some food for thought for the other grandpas.

Same here, can't play FPS with a controller, while I enjoy it with a 3rd person game.

By the way, CD Projekt will upload the E3 gameplay demo during Pax West, running August 30th - 2nd September. Two more months!  ACK!
https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/cyberpunk-2077-e3-2019-gameplay-demo-will-be-made-public-at-pax-west/
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One last thing: FWIW, here are the PC specs for the E3 demo:

https://wccftech.com/cyberpunk-2077-e3-2019-demo-specs/

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CPU: Intel i7-8700K @ 3.70 GHz

Motherboard: ASUS ROG STRIX Z370-I GAMING

RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V, 2x16GB, 3000MHz, CL15

GPU: Titan RTX

SSD: Samsung 960 Pro 512 GB M.2 PCIe

PSU: Corsair SF600 600W

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Reply #101 on: June 17, 2019, 03:52:49 PM

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Reply #102 on: June 17, 2019, 03:55:35 PM

Hah, went to double check min specs...no specs released yet on gog


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eta: on the upside, I guess I can get the GotY version instead, assuming I upgrade my pc by then.

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Reply #103 on: June 17, 2019, 04:01:14 PM

My 1080 Ti is still devouring everything I throw at it on a 1440p monitor 60fps minimum , and I expect it will do so with Cyberpunk too (with RTX turned off, of course; out of curiosity I tried it with Metro Exodus and is a big no-no, as expected). Best graphic card I ever owned (yeah, ok, no shit :P).

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Reply #104 on: June 18, 2019, 03:28:06 AM

It's a CDPR game. I fully expect it to be unoptimized at launch with loads of UI issues and mediocre controls that get patched over the following two years and are fixed by the time I buy the Cyberpunk 2077 game of the year edition. Just like the Witcher 3.
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