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Title: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Falconeer on June 10, 2018, 05:39:32 PM
Here's the very first trailer beside that amazing teaser from a few years back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X2kIfS6fb8&feature=em-uploademail


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Velorath on June 10, 2018, 06:39:43 PM
No gameplay, no release date.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Sky on June 10, 2018, 10:24:40 PM
After seeing what the move to scifi did for Gothic/Risen/Elex...I'm extremely excited for this one. Witcher 3 was just so damned good, this one is going to be amazing.

"When it's done" has always been the best release date.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: schild on June 10, 2018, 10:28:01 PM
in discord i called it, i believe

5th Ghost in the Grand Theft Cyber Element


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Velorath on June 10, 2018, 11:10:48 PM
"When it's done" has always been the best release date.

I'd agree for the most part (Star Citizen being a notable exception). But they never should have announced this game back in 2012, especially since the hidden message in this trailer mentions that pre-production didn't fully start until after Blood and Wine was done (which released in 2016). So kindly fuck them for announcing a game four years before actually starting to work on it, and then expecting me to get excited over a trailer that doesn't actually show the game. That said, there's a good chance I'll love the game when it comes out.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Lucas on June 11, 2018, 06:13:58 AM
Fantastic trailer. I noticed there are complaints mentioning it's not grim/Blade Runner-esque/rainy enough, too bright etc. While I never played the original PnP RPG back in the day, from what I understand it's a slightly different vision of the future, influenced by the 80's and not so much by Blade Runner or Neuromancer (although it can't escape some kind of inspiration, of course).

Hopefully it's everything Warren Spector dreamed about back at the end of the 90s when he (along with others) conceived Deus Ex and couldn't do because of hardware limitations.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: HaemishM on June 11, 2018, 10:34:59 AM
That looked great to me. It definitely feels like an updated Cyberpunk feel, still with some of that "what the future will look like from the '80's perspective" but with some updated ideas.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Falconeer on June 12, 2018, 05:13:16 AM
William Gibson does not like Cyberpunk 2077 trailer. I see his point, although I liked it.

 https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-06-11-
william-gibson-was-bang-on-about-cyberpunk-2077-and-grand-theft-auto :heartbreak:


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: schild on June 12, 2018, 07:39:56 AM
Well, William Gibson fucking sucks. I didn't really care either way about the trailer, but seriously, Gibson is an overrated hack. He writes utter nonsense.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: satael on June 12, 2018, 09:32:29 AM
I liked Gibson's Bridge trilogy. As for the trailer it seems to just show the world as you'd expect if it's based on cp2020 with zero info on actual gameplay mechanics.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Lucas on June 12, 2018, 10:36:23 AM
Some gameplay will be shown today in the afternoon (USA)/evening(Europe):

https://twitter.com/CyberpunkGame/status/1006552481973850113

Personally I don't expect a big departure from the Witcher 3 *overall* gameplay structure, especially regarding exploration, dialogue, choices. The setting, of course, will dictate some changes, like ranged gun combat and maybe deep weapon customization.

We already know there will be character creation and classes, and will be possible to choose between a male and female protagonist.

From the hidden announcement included in the "boot-up" sequence before the trailer:

Quote
It's been over 2077 days since we announced our plan to develop Cyberpunk 2077. We released a CGI trailer, gave some interviews and... went dark. Normal procedure for these kinds of things - you announce a game and then shut up, roll up your sleeves and go to work. We wanted to give you The Witcher 3 and both expansions first, which is why this period of staying silent was longer than we planned. Sorry for that.

As soon as we concluded work on Blood and Wine, we were able to go full speed ahead with CP2077's pre-production. But we chose to remain silent. Why? At some point, we made a decision to resume talking about the game only when we have something to show. Something meaningful and substantial. This is because we do realise you've been (im)patiently waiting for a very long time, and we wouldn't like anyone to feel that we're taking this for granted. On the contrary - it gives us a lot of extra motivation. The hype is real, so the sweat and tears need to be real, too.

But, to the point. Today is the day. If you're seeing this, it means you saw the trailer - our vision of Cyberpunk, an alternative version of the future where America is in pieces, megacorporations control all aspects of civilised life, and gangs rule the rest. And, while this world is full of adrenaline, don't let the car chases and guns mislead you. Cyberpunk 2077 is a true single player, story-driven RPG. You'll be able to create your own character and... well, you'll get to know the rest from what we show at our booth at E3. Be on the lookout for the previews!

Before we finish, you probably have some questions,

1. When?
When we told you we would only release the game when it's ready, we meant it. We're infinitely much closer to a release date than we were back then, but it's still not the time to confirm anything, so patience is still required. Quality is the only thing that drives us - it's the beauty of being an independent studio and your own publisher.

2. How big?
Seriously big, but..., to be honest, we have no bloody clue at this point in time. Once we put it all together, we will openly tell you what you can expect. And we promise we'll do this before we start talking about any pre-orders or ask anything of you.

3. Free DLC/Expansions/DRM?
Expect nothing less than you got with The Witcher 3. As for DRM, CP2077 will be 100% DRM-free on PC.

4. Microtransactions?
In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?

Once again, thank you for your patience. If you have a minute, do visit cyberpunk.net and share your opinion (about anything) with us. We read everything you post and we treat it very seriously.

Yours,
CD PROJEKT RED Team.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: schild on June 12, 2018, 10:46:51 AM
Quote
If you're seeing this, it means you saw the trailer - our vision of Cyberpunk, an alternative version of the future where America is in pieces, megacorporations control all aspects of civilised life, and gangs rule the rest

this is (just) america

releasing this during the trump presidency feels like a mistake


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Sky on June 12, 2018, 11:42:56 AM
Personally I don't expect a big departure from the Witcher 3 *overall* gameplay structure, especially regarding exploration, dialogue, choices. The setting, of course, will dictate some changes, like ranged gun combat and maybe deep weapon customization.
That's my feeling (and hope, it ain't broke). I could see the tech stuff slotting into alchemy easily, mixing chemicals and implants and whatnot. I hope the weapons get a pass to improve on the simple slot system. The questing and dialog should take care of itself, really looking forward to the change in setting, as I said earlier. Easy pre-order of the game + DLC pass.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Mandella on June 12, 2018, 11:51:11 AM
Well, William Gibson fucking sucks. I didn't really care either way about the trailer, but seriously, Gibson is an overrated hack. He writes utter nonsense.

Thank you. I have been of that opinion for decades. I'll put Harlan Ellison in that bag too.

And even if you like his writing you really should admit that he is now an old fart who shouldn't be gone to for opinions on video games.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: schild on June 12, 2018, 11:51:59 AM
if you like his writing then you like bad writing

seriously

dude writes garbage

fan fiction of a genre that doesn't exist


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Teleku on June 12, 2018, 12:19:49 PM
Ok, I'll bite.  All I've read of his was the Sprawl trilogy, which I overall enjoyed.  Mind you, I should say that I really liked Neuromancer, and thought the other two works were mostly enjoyable if forgettable.

So I guess, did you really hate Neuromancer that bad?  Because I thought it was a great read, with writing that painted a vividly dark world, with a perfect mix of action and thoughtful depression.  Though its been.... a long time since I read it, so that could be a factor.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: schild on June 12, 2018, 12:32:14 PM
the only good thing that ever came out of gibson was johnny mnemonic and that required Robert Longo and Keanu Reeves to not be total garbage

edit: how long since you've read it, because teenage me didn't think anne rice was garbage (spoiler: she's garbage)


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Falconeer on June 12, 2018, 12:47:27 PM
Never liked his writing, but I liked the world he imagined and described.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Lucas on June 12, 2018, 02:33:48 PM
From Jessie Cox's twitter feed:

https://twitter.com/JesseCox/status/1006596942896349184



And more at the thread I linked. From another post, it seems that there are no loading screens between the (six) city districts.

One more thing (full articles will start trickling out soon, I guess): it seems that the game is in first person, unlike the Witcher series (already read some grumblings about it but hey...That little game called "Deus Ex" was in first person too :P)

Length of demo (played by the devs) is about 50 minutes, from what I read.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: schild on June 12, 2018, 02:41:33 PM
yea i mean

it's either true Deus Ex 2 or it sucks

i think we've all been operating off that assumption


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Lucas on June 12, 2018, 02:50:00 PM
More info I got from the following link (mentioned during the Gamespot stream...Can't watch right now):

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cyberpunk-2077-details-first-person-rpg-w-shooter-elements-classes-up-new-screenshots-demo-info.48630/page-15#post-9142084

Quote
Cyberpunk Info from GameSpot Stream:

- Game is FPS perspective
- FPS perspective made to feel more personal
- RPG with Shooter Elements not a Shooter with RPG elements
- Multiple different progression systems (Skills, Perks, etc.)
- V, protagonist - urban merc/hired gun.
- Full character creation system (Gender, Looks, Lifepath/Backstory)
- You DO NOT pick classes in the beginning, class system is fluid based on choices
- Dystopian Cyberpunk future shown in sunlight on purpose. Full Day/Night Cycle. Noir themes bleed through environment and aesthetic
- Characters from Cyberpunk 2020 lore will appear
- Netrunner Techie and Solo are main focused classes
- You can combine classes
- Optional classes exist (like Rockerboy and Corporate) and you can pull perks from them to add into your own custom class
- Story and quest system from Witcher 3 is implemented into Cyberpunk similarly.
- Choice and consequence is HUGE. Emphasized that the game is an RPG first and foremost
- Story is personalized by player choice.
- Combat - Ranged combat and Melee combat. Learned lessons from Witcher 3. FPS Melee combat.
- Weapons - 3 branches - Power Weapons (heavy hitting/stagger), Tech Weapons (penetrating through cover), Smart Weapons (tracking/following)
- Vehicles - Motorcycles, Cars, hinted at flying cars.
- V is a fully voiced character. Both Male and Female completely voiced.
- V's personality is shaped by player. Backstory and interactions shape V's personality.
- Cyberpunk is a dark dystopia in the same vein as Witcher 3 being Dark Fantasy
- Details of the world - everything has a purpose. World design was a huge focus in setting the tone.
- Night City - in between SF and LA (fictional city). Inspired by both cities.
- 6 unique districts in the city. Each area has its own feel on top of the base Noir feel
- Exploration is encouraged.
- Witcher was horizontally huge, Cyberpunk is vertically huge.
- You can enter buildings, Mega Buildings exist as well with multiple floors and multiple areas to explore within a single building.
- No level scaling. 2 forms of XP - Core XP - Main Missions and Street Cred - Side missions
- Higher Street Cred opens new exclusive vendors and fixers (new jobs)


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: schild on June 12, 2018, 03:24:50 PM
>You don't pick a class
>Look at all this class nonsense

That shit is more confusing than the bethsoft dedicated server nonsense


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Lucas on June 12, 2018, 03:52:33 PM
I think it just means that, at the beginning of the game, you only get to choose your gender and name, then there is probably some sort of story-driven prologue that will eventually determine your class and backstory.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: schild on June 12, 2018, 04:19:38 PM
Yeah I get that

But you watch, after the tutorial you're totally gonna be presented with a trinary set of dialogue options and actions that have you picking a class.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Lucas on June 12, 2018, 04:29:30 PM
Yep, that's a possibility (of course let's hope for something a bit more innovative and less straightforward). Devs should talk about the game shortly on IGN live show:

http://www.ign.com/events/e3


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Falconeer on June 12, 2018, 05:54:44 PM
I think it just means that, at the beginning of the game, you only get to choose your gender and name, then there is probably some sort of story-driven prologue that will eventually determine your class and backstory.

DON'T TELL HIM WHAT IT MEANS!


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: WayAbvPar on June 14, 2018, 12:16:26 PM
Well, William Gibson fucking sucks. I didn't really care either way about the trailer, but seriously, Gibson is an overrated hack. He writes utter nonsense.

I will cut you *




* I am honor bound to defend Gibson since he retweeted me a few weeks back  :awesome_for_real:

Honestly though- I thought The Peripheral was his best work since the Bridge stuff. Loved it.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Ard on June 14, 2018, 05:24:22 PM
Honestly though- I thought The Peripheral was his best work since the Bridge stuff. Loved it.

I'm not honor bound to defend him, and I thought that book was god awful and a missed opportunity at writing something interesting and unique instead of aping Stross.  I'm still excited for Cyberpunk at least though  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Wasted on June 14, 2018, 06:02:00 PM
I liked his earlier books, his writing gets worse over time.  I slogged through some till finally giving up half way through Spook Country.

I'm not surprised Gibson hated the trailer, he seems to pretty much hate everything.

I have such high hopes for this game I am sure to be disappointed.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: HaemishM on June 15, 2018, 03:30:24 PM
I'm a big William Gibson and Cyberpunk fan (obviously), but Gibson's "modern-day" trilogy was pretty bland. Way too much interest in fashion and much less in anything else.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: WayAbvPar on June 15, 2018, 06:00:37 PM
That was definitely the worst of his writing. That is probably why I was so excited about The Peripheral- it was more a return to his sci fi/cyberpunk roots.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Surlyboi on June 15, 2018, 10:30:23 PM
Well, William Gibson fucking sucks. I didn't really care either way about the trailer, but seriously, Gibson is an overrated hack. He writes utter nonsense.

Yeah, fuck that. The sprawl trilogy is still the fucking tits.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Lucas on August 27, 2018, 01:47:23 PM
48 minutes long gameplay reveal (narrated):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjF9GgrY9c0



Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: schild on August 27, 2018, 01:52:18 PM
Spoiler: day fucking one


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Lucas on August 27, 2018, 02:14:53 PM
Spoiler: day fucking one

Yep. Mind is positively blown. Wow.

Yeah, gameplay shows some linked, very engaging quests, in  true Witcher-style fashion; knowing the style, tho, when truly played, what has been shown is just a minor, 5-hour detour in the grand scheme of things :D


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Ironwood on August 27, 2018, 02:22:14 PM
It's rare I agree with Mr Schild on 'Be There', but it looks like I will indeed Be There.

Stunning.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: schild on August 27, 2018, 03:00:02 PM
First person shooty bits > third person long hair swordy bits


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Sky on August 27, 2018, 03:03:46 PM
Was there any doubt, though? I prefer the 3rd person swordy to 1st person, but meh. Doesn't matter, really.

Also, dude sounds a lot like Mr Bad Ass, Danny Trejo. Which would be awesome.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: WayAbvPar on August 27, 2018, 03:18:18 PM
Yeah. Completely in.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Sky on August 27, 2018, 04:01:06 PM
Watched most of it now...if it wasn't CD Projekt Red, I'd be so skeptical. But it is, so I'm excited.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Ceryse on August 27, 2018, 06:43:25 PM
Well, shit.

That looks better than I was expecting.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: schild on August 27, 2018, 08:46:29 PM
i would hope so it's been in production longer than star citizen


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Ginaz on August 27, 2018, 09:14:35 PM
i would hope so it's been in production longer than star citizen


At least they're spending their own money and not fleecing whales investors.  Also, I thought we were boycotting this since they used "did you just assume their gender" in a tweet and are therefore transphobe, putting aside the fact that CDPR is thinking of making so you can play something other than male/female.



Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: schild on August 27, 2018, 09:17:17 PM
wat


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Rasix on August 27, 2018, 09:45:59 PM
Who fucking cares?


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: MisterNoisy on August 27, 2018, 10:03:56 PM
God fucking damn, this looks fantastic   I had high expectations and what they showed just blew them the fuck away.

All in/day one/whatever just gimme now.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Surlyboi on August 27, 2018, 11:46:05 PM
Yeah, Day One. The wife is gonna be pissed.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Trippy on August 27, 2018, 11:52:43 PM
I might actually get past the first 30 minutes of a CD PROJEKT RED game with this one.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: schild on August 28, 2018, 12:29:02 AM
I might actually get past the first 30 minutes of a CD PROJEKT RED game with this one.


a million times this


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Lucas on August 28, 2018, 03:43:05 AM
Gamersyde posted the non-compressed, Full HD version of the gameplay video, available for download (17GB):

https://www.gamersyde.com/download_cyberpunk_2077_48_minutes_of_gameplay-42749_en.html


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Rendakor on August 28, 2018, 07:18:59 AM
I might actually get past the first 30 minutes of a CD PROJEKT RED game with this one.


a million times this
+1


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Ironwood on August 28, 2018, 08:40:24 AM
It's not the first 30 minutes that bothers me, it's when I play these games religiously for a week, then forget about them, then come back 2 years later with zero fucking clue of who I am, what I was doing and where I've been.

Literally used some of my holiday last week looking at Fallout 4 and Witcher 3 ;  logged in, got very fucking confused and then logged out since I knew I would have to start again.  The worst bit was seeing the previous saves where I'd already done this twice.  I felt like Guy Pearce once he's killed Joe Pantoliano.

This, however, looks like it might keep my interest to some kind of conclusion.  I can only hope.



Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Sky on August 28, 2018, 09:17:16 AM
I found Witcher 3 slightly easier to get into again after a break, because the game is so amazing I just kind of go along with 'now who the what is where?' stuff. But I mean after 60 hours or whatever, it's moot in my book.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: schild on August 28, 2018, 10:02:09 AM
I couldn't get past the tutorial. *Snore*


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: HaemishM on August 28, 2018, 10:37:24 AM
This video made me so happy in the pants.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Xerapis on August 28, 2018, 01:04:23 PM
I loved almost everything about that video.

Except for the John Wick 3 Mook they stuck in there as a sidekick.

I already want to shoot him in the face.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: HaemishM on August 28, 2018, 01:28:13 PM
I'm sure he dies quickly.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Sky on August 28, 2018, 01:41:06 PM
I loved almost everything about that video.

Except for the John Wick 3 Mook they stuck in there as a sidekick.

I already want to shoot him in the face.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/DXSz15kgmQ96E/giphy.gif)


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Kageru on September 01, 2018, 12:01:49 AM

I'd always wanted to see a representation of Trauma Team and now I have.

I haven't really been following so it will be interesting to see how much character and build diversity there is. I assume the needs of the narrative and encounters will limit both.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: lamaros on September 03, 2018, 05:37:12 AM
I might actually get past the first 30 minutes of a CD PROJEKT RED game with this one.


a million times this


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Cyrrex on September 03, 2018, 06:00:51 AM
I watched about 2 minutes of the trailer, and then closed it down.  Looks stupid good, don't wanna spoil it.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Falconeer on June 09, 2019, 03:24:17 PM
New cinematic trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIcTM8WXFjk&feature=em-uploademail


Spoiler: Keanu Reeves is in it.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Lucas on June 09, 2019, 04:46:04 PM
Coming out April 16th, 2020 (4 years, 11 months after Witcher 3).


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: calapine on June 09, 2019, 04:50:49 PM
Main trailer guy looks like right out of the Mass Effect character creator.

But I guess that makes sense as it's what your typical 20-year old man that had access to enhancements would go for....

Edit: Also holy crap! Do you remember that first great trailer? It came out 10th January 2013.

I am feeling old.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: schild on June 09, 2019, 05:04:07 PM
April 16th, 2020.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Falconeer on June 09, 2019, 07:42:46 PM
It's one year away but there's already a collector edition. Mhf.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwr6TlEbiuU


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Surlyboi on June 09, 2019, 09:49:46 PM
Fuckin’ Keanu as Johnny Silverhand? If I wasn’t already signed up, I’d sign myself the fuck up. Preordered The collectors edition.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: schild on June 09, 2019, 10:22:05 PM
not being able to get the CE on PC is some

bull

shit

Edit: Oh looks like that's coming it's just not orderable yet.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Velorath on June 10, 2019, 02:45:23 AM
not being able to get the CE on PC is some

bull

shit

Edit: Oh looks like that's coming it's just not orderable yet.

Yeah, it would be a real shame if PC players didn't get a chance to drop $250 on a useless box of crap.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Lucas on June 11, 2019, 05:14:58 PM
"Stick with the prod, JC" :awesome_for_real: :awesome_for_real:

https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/you-can-finish-cyberpunk-2077-without-killing-anyone/


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: 01101010 on June 11, 2019, 05:36:07 PM
Any recent gameplay vids? I have been out of the loop with the E3 news and stuff so I might have missed it. And I am not putting confidence in cinematics anymore - Games rarely measure up.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Lucas on June 11, 2019, 06:01:57 PM
A new gameplay video will probably be published after E3 or during Gamescom (August) just like last year. As far as I know, At the E3 booth, they're showing two gameplay videos, one behind closed doors for the press, one public for the plebs.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Falconeer on June 11, 2019, 06:50:53 PM
It's First Person camera only right? FPS gameplay videos tend to look all the same. In a good way. I'm very happy about the First Person camera.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Lucas on June 11, 2019, 07:33:17 PM
It's First Person camera only right? FPS gameplay videos tend to look all the same. In a good way. I'm very happy about the First Person camera.

Press already had the chance of taking a look at the new gameplay, no one mentions third person camera, so it's safe to assume it will stay first person.

[psst, Falc, very detailed gameplay report from Lega Nerd (italian language): https://leganerd.com/2019/06/11/cyberpunk-2077-anteprima-e3-2019/]   :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Falconeer on June 12, 2019, 05:20:50 AM
One of the comments that flies around after trying the demo is "It's like Deus Ex with a 100000x budget".


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Lucas on June 12, 2019, 07:17:58 AM
Yes, definitely (another exhaustive report...some spoilers about Keanu Reeves' character):

https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/cyberpunk-2077-e3-2019-gameplay/

While some are already criticizing the tone of that article, the author is basically saying  that they're not trying to push forward any genre or reinventing the wheel; they're simply getting even more in-depth with the game systems compared to their previous efforts (notably, The Witcher 3). And, like I said one year ago, that's perfectly fine for me, also being a "storyfag" sucker for well told stories  :grin:
---

Also consider that, one year ago, they mentioned we should expect nothing less than what was offered in The Witcher 3 when it comes to both free and paid DLCs (which was a lot and of great quality). Maybe sneak in another interesting mini-game like Gwent and we're all set.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Lucas on June 12, 2019, 09:56:08 AM
...And then we have excerpts like this one from RPS:

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/06/12/cyberpunk-2077s-e3-demo-has-weak-gunplay-and-unimaginative-stereotypes/

Quote
I’m also increasingly concerned about Cyberpunk’s handling of non-white cultures. Last year’s Gamescom demo drew criticism for its clumsy and inauthentic presentation of a Latino character, and I’m not convinced the Voodoo Boys are a step in the right direction. At one point V, the player character, mockingly says “and who are dem” in response to Placide’s pronunciation. I asked Tomaskiewicz if he was concerned they weren’t treating certain cultures with enough respect.

“Obviously we’re paying a lot of attention to representing different groups respectfully. You know, there’s always a risk. Of course we have it in the back of our heads that we need to be careful about this. We are contacting different consultants to learn about specific groups, and our company has a variety of people with different beliefs. As for The Animals, if you play through the game you’ll see that they’re not mostly black people, it’s mixed.”

He told me that most of the city were mixed race, but the backstory for this particular area concerned most people being immigrants from Haiti. By itself, that would be fine. But near the end of the demo, we meet a white man in a suit and tie who gives us the information we need. He also tells us the Voodoo Boys are going to turn on us the moment we’ve done their dirty work – and is immediately proved right.

The violent black thugs betrayed us, as the corporate white man said they would. If CD Projeckt are trying to subvert expectations – if the punchline is, but sometimes the thugs are really thugs – then it’s not one that lands.

gawd.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: HaemishM on June 12, 2019, 10:06:12 AM
One of the comments that flies around after trying the demo is "It's like Deus Ex with a 100000x budget".

Stop it. My penis can only get so erect.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: 01101010 on June 12, 2019, 10:18:57 AM
One of the comments that flies around after trying the demo is "It's like Deus Ex with a 100000x budget".

Stop it. My penis can only get so erect.

It's not the intensity that gets you, it's the duration.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Falconeer on June 12, 2019, 11:31:55 AM
...And then we have excerpts like this one from RPS:

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/06/12/cyberpunk-2077s-e3-demo-has-weak-gunplay-and-unimaginative-stereotypes/

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I’m also increasingly concerned about Cyberpunk’s handling of non-white cultures. Last year’s Gamescom demo drew criticism for its clumsy and inauthentic presentation of a Latino character, and I’m not convinced the Voodoo Boys are a step in the right direction. At one point V, the player character, mockingly says “and who are dem” in response to Placide’s pronunciation. I asked Tomaskiewicz if he was concerned they weren’t treating certain cultures with enough respect.

“Obviously we’re paying a lot of attention to representing different groups respectfully. You know, there’s always a risk. Of course we have it in the back of our heads that we need to be careful about this. We are contacting different consultants to learn about specific groups, and our company has a variety of people with different beliefs. As for The Animals, if you play through the game you’ll see that they’re not mostly black people, it’s mixed.”

He told me that most of the city were mixed race, but the backstory for this particular area concerned most people being immigrants from Haiti. By itself, that would be fine. But near the end of the demo, we meet a white man in a suit and tie who gives us the information we need. He also tells us the Voodoo Boys are going to turn on us the moment we’ve done their dirty work – and is immediately proved right.

The violent black thugs betrayed us, as the corporate white man said they would. If CD Projeckt are trying to subvert expectations – if the punchline is, but sometimes the thugs are really thugs – then it’s not one that lands.

gawd.

I wish I could ignore these things, but I can't. Let's wait and see.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Sky on June 12, 2019, 11:40:33 AM
I'm super happy we had RPS's hipster white guy to tell us how we should feel about racial issues.

(https://i.imgur.com/XUlAGkp.png)

What a honky cuntface. You know that dopey hair is going into a manbun right after the photo was taken.

(I feel all commentary here is beside the point, since the game is clearly must-buy on the heels of arguably the best rpg ever made)


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Cyrrex on June 12, 2019, 11:55:30 AM
He looks nice and punchable.

In any case, while I do agree such problems exist, I also don’t want to hear it from a honky cuntface.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Falconeer on June 12, 2019, 12:00:54 PM
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At this point, I feel increasingly uncomfortable that we’re shooting at predominantly black people labelled as animals.

Regardless of who wrote that, I'm afraid I'd feel the same way. And I couldn't help wondering what are these fucking devs thinking?


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: HaemishM on June 12, 2019, 01:32:29 PM
TBF to Hipster McCuntface up there, it isn't like the entirety of the Cypberpunk franchise of RPG books is clear of such "problematic" depictions. It's very '80's action movie in that regard. However, being that Mike Pondsmith is the creator of the franchise, has been heavily involved with it in all its iterations, is heavily involved with this one and is also African-American, it's safe to say that he's ok with problematic depictions and everyone else should just calm the ever living fuck down.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Sky on June 12, 2019, 01:50:52 PM
 :uhrr:


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Lucas on June 12, 2019, 02:23:16 PM
TBF to Hipster McCuntface up there, it isn't like the entirety of the Cypberpunk franchise of RPG books is clear of such "problematic" depictions. It's very '80's action movie in that regard. However, being that Mike Pondsmith is the creator of the franchise, has been heavily involved with it in all its iterations, is heavily involved with this one and is also African-American, it's safe to say that he's ok with problematic depictions and everyone else should just calm the ever living fuck down.

But, but....videogame drama!!  :ye_gods: :drill:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He09JaBVZdE (Letitia in Deus Ex: HR)

Not to mention the attacks toward Warhorse Studios (Kingdom Come) and the fact they didn't include any black person in their game (because of *researched* historical accuracy, as far as I know).
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EDIT: BUT WAIT...There's more!

https://www.polygon.com/e3/2019/6/12/18662443/cyberpunk-2077-trans-advertisement-cd-projekt-red-e3-2019 (this was already touched upon by the above mentioned RPS author; an in-game ad featuring a trans model)

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So I asked her: Why was a trans model used in this particular advertisement?

“Personally, for me, this person is sexy,” Redesiuk said. “I like how this person looks. However, this model is used — their beautiful body is used — for corporate reasons. They are displayed there just as a thing, and that’s the terrible part of it.”

Redesiuk said that the world of Cyberpunk 2077 includes many people who are gender-nonconforming, some of whom enjoy showing off their bodies in public. They are a demographic group with significant purchasing power, and so, megacorporations use their likenesses to sell soft drinks. It’s supposed to be a play on the same sort of hypersexualized advertising that modern companies use to sell products today, just brought in line with the kind of future CD Projekt wants to portray.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: HaemishM on June 12, 2019, 03:24:14 PM
TBF, the Kingdom Come dev was a racist shitbag regardless of what he put in his game or didn't. Or at least that's my understanding.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Cyrrex on June 13, 2019, 12:33:14 AM
Why can't we just shoot bitches in the face not based on the color of their skin, but by the content of their character?

#allvideogameNPClivesmatter


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: lamaros on June 13, 2019, 12:47:11 AM
I'm super happy we had RPS's hipster white guy to tell us how we should feel about racial issues.

(https://i.imgur.com/XUlAGkp.png)

What a honky cuntface. You know that dopey hair is going into a manbun right after the photo was taken.

(I feel all commentary here is beside the point, since the game is clearly must-buy on the heels of arguably the best rpg ever made)

It's great we have you in here to go looking up some jouno's pic so you can take potshots about how he looks. You add so much value.

On the game itself. I tried to love TW3, but couldn't. If this is more of the same I'm afraid it probably won't work for me still.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Tebonas on June 13, 2019, 01:44:59 AM
We really need to stop with this Political Correctness bullshit. We are talking about a fucking game where you play criminals in the seedy underbelly of society, and people are whining about unfair representation? I hope Trump kills us all soon with his idiocy, we deserve it.

Edit: Now with 50% less fucks given in the statement, for the children.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Wasted on June 13, 2019, 03:29:49 AM
Eh, I'm becoming immune to clickbait bullshit.

The true crime was that someone was reading RockPaperShotgun.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Rendakor on June 13, 2019, 06:50:44 AM
+1 for not giving a shit about PC culture in my video games.

My biggest complaint about Witcher 3 was the awkward third person movement; since this is first person, I hope I don't have that problem.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Riggswolfe on June 16, 2019, 08:36:24 PM
So, apparently Keanu Reeves has the 2nd most lines of dialogue in the game behind only the PC. That's surprising. I thought he'd be in it but not that much.

Info came from this article here: https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/06/14/cyberpunk-2077-keanu-reeves-has-the-most-dialogue-of-any-character-besides-you (https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/06/14/cyberpunk-2077-keanu-reeves-has-the-most-dialogue-of-any-character-besides-you)


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Sky on June 16, 2019, 08:42:26 PM
He says 'woah' 1,486,973 times.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Riggswolfe on June 17, 2019, 07:09:48 AM
He says 'woah' 1,486,973 times.

That joke is about 2 decades out of date.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Cyrrex on June 17, 2019, 07:15:20 AM
He says 'woah' 1,486,973 times.

That joke is about 2 decades out of date.

Aren't we all.  Aren't we all.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Sky on June 17, 2019, 09:14:24 AM
He says 'woah' 1,486,973 times.

That joke is about 2 decades out of date.
As an optimist, I prefer to see it as 58 years before its time.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Cyrrex on June 17, 2019, 11:25:30 AM
Lol, well played.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Sky on June 17, 2019, 03:11:24 PM
I was thinking of getting this on PS4 (pro) because my pc's 970 and older cpu will likely cough on it...

...then I realized that it's fps and I hate fps with controllers (I prefer them for 3rd person).

Just some food for thought for the other grandpas.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Raguel on June 17, 2019, 03:30:37 PM
I was thinking of getting this on PS4 (pro) because my pc's 970 and older cpu will likely cough on it...

...then I realized that it's fps and I hate fps with controllers (I prefer them for 3rd person).

Just some food for thought for the other grandpas.

I don't know why but I like watching people play fps but I can't stand playing them. I don't think I ever knowingly bought a fps in my life. Was EQ1 first person? That may have been my first and last.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Lucas on June 17, 2019, 03:32:08 PM
I was thinking of getting this on PS4 (pro) because my pc's 970 and older cpu will likely cough on it...

...then I realized that it's fps and I hate fps with controllers (I prefer them for 3rd person).

Just some food for thought for the other grandpas.

Same here, can't play FPS with a controller, while I enjoy it with a 3rd person game.

By the way, CD Projekt will upload the E3 gameplay demo during Pax West, running August 30th - 2nd September. Two more months!  :ye_gods:
https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/cyberpunk-2077-e3-2019-gameplay-demo-will-be-made-public-at-pax-west/
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One last thing: FWIW, here are the PC specs for the E3 demo:

https://wccftech.com/cyberpunk-2077-e3-2019-demo-specs/

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CPU: Intel i7-8700K @ 3.70 GHz

Motherboard: ASUS ROG STRIX Z370-I GAMING

RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V, 2x16GB, 3000MHz, CL15

GPU: Titan RTX

SSD: Samsung 960 Pro 512 GB M.2 PCIe

PSU: Corsair SF600 600W


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: schild on June 17, 2019, 03:52:49 PM
them: titan rtx
me: oh no


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Sky on June 17, 2019, 03:55:35 PM
Hah, went to double check min specs...no specs released yet on gog


ohno



eta: on the upside, I guess I can get the GotY version instead, assuming I upgrade my pc by then.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Lucas on June 17, 2019, 04:01:14 PM
My 1080 Ti is still devouring everything I throw at it on a 1440p monitor 60fps minimum , and I expect it will do so with Cyberpunk too (with RTX turned off, of course; out of curiosity I tried it with Metro Exodus and is a big no-no, as expected). Best graphic card I ever owned (yeah, ok, no shit :P).


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Jeff Kelly on June 18, 2019, 03:28:06 AM
It's a CDPR game. I fully expect it to be unoptimized at launch with loads of UI issues and mediocre controls that get patched over the following two years and are fixed by the time I buy the Cyberpunk 2077 game of the year edition. Just like the Witcher 3.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Teleku on June 18, 2019, 12:27:45 PM
Looking forward to Trump visiting Poland some day and being given this as a State Gift.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Sky on August 01, 2019, 09:31:05 AM
CMON scooped up the IP for a card game: https://cmon.com/news/cmon-announces-cyberpunk-2077-afterlife-the-card-game

Sorry, schild.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: schild on August 03, 2019, 12:50:06 PM
i don't know what you're sorry about, i don't really have fucks to give about licensed card games


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Falconeer on August 04, 2019, 04:48:33 PM
The writers are not bad. I like most of Lang's stuff. And Chiarvesio, in spite of being Italian, made Kingsburg which is not terrible.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: schild on August 04, 2019, 05:30:06 PM
this has nothing to do with CMON or the designers, I just don't care about licenses in board games


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Falconeer on August 04, 2019, 06:19:21 PM
Oh yes I agree. I have zero interest in this. I just meant that it's probably not gonna be terrible although almost certainly forgettable.

I am way more interested in this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJML6ZpD_ZQ


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Yegolev on August 05, 2019, 12:43:48 PM
Hard to get usable impressions from someone who has never played a tabletop game.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Riggswolfe on August 09, 2019, 01:00:06 AM
Oh yes I agree. I have zero interest in this. I just meant that it's probably not gonna be terrible although almost certainly forgettable.

I am way more interested in this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJML6ZpD_ZQ

Apparently they'll be releasing an actual 2077 tabletop RPG. I played the 2020 version a long, long time ago. I didn't enjoy it a lot but part of that was the GM. He was a friend of ours who made pregens and purposefully gave each of us characters that were way out of our comfort zones. My character was a mechanic, who talked a lot and was super social but didn't know the first thing about guns. At the time I was in my "mostly quiet gun-fu" phase for cyberpunk and modern style games. Anyway, I seem to remember not being super impressed with the ruleset mechanically either.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Zetor on August 09, 2019, 01:34:46 AM
I've been playing Shadowrun 5e over the last few years, and the newly-released 6e (and, honestly, Catalyst itself) is such a shitshow that most people are either sticking with 5e, or jumping ship to Cyberpunk RED. In fact, one of the SR communities I play in just did a playtest of the Jumpstart kit and it went really really well...

Of course this may all change when the core rulebook comes out, but (at least post-gencon) the hype is strong.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: HaemishM on August 09, 2019, 10:08:12 AM
I never played the Shadowrun tabletop RPG but didn't like the dice pool mechanics of it. I ran a Cyberpunk 2020 campaign for years with my buddies. The 2020 ruleset was decent - I liked that it was d10 instead of d6, but there were definitely some moments of my friends finding just super-maximized combos. My buddy ended up making a Prowler character that was more deadly than just about any Solo, so I ended up having to constantly put them in situations where his strengths were nullified (or just have them wake up naked). They all had fun with it but like most tabletop RPGs, even the best systems can be shit up by a dickhead GM or min-maxing rules lawyer players.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Riggswolfe on August 29, 2019, 10:48:36 AM
CD Projekt Red can't win for losing. They got bitched at for their transgender ads in the games. So they decided to make the character creator more inclusive. Now, instead of a binary male/female choice you choose a body type and a voice. Needless to say right-wing gamers are losing their shit over it. "What? I guess now I can just pretend to be a woman so my character can walk into women's bathrooms" and such is what you'll see in sites that allow comments and/or on social media.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/cyberpunk-2077-drops-binary-malefemale-options-in-/1100-6469446/ (https://www.gamespot.com/articles/cyberpunk-2077-drops-binary-malefemale-options-in-/1100-6469446/)


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Sky on August 29, 2019, 11:46:40 AM
Step 1: ignore comments and social media.

I'm serious. Don't give these fucking morons any attention.

(full disclosure: I think gendered bathrooms are a stupid idea and cringe that apparently it's the only thing stopping conservatives from raping women and girls)


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: schild on August 29, 2019, 12:22:10 PM
Trump voters aren't going to buy the game anyway.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: pants on September 01, 2019, 09:51:34 PM
You know the first thing that is going to happen in any cyberpunky world is some dude is going to get a vagina implanted in his arm so he can fuck himself, or something random like that.  So the whole idea of nonbinary genders does fit in with the genre.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: MisterNoisy on September 02, 2019, 01:02:01 AM
That last gameplay trailer was fucking rad.  April can't get here fast enough.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: disKret on September 02, 2019, 01:11:05 AM
That last gameplay trailer was fucking rad.  April can't get here fast enough.

For lazy ones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FknHjl7eQ6o


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Ironwood on September 02, 2019, 04:37:50 PM
Yeah, you already had my money, but please, take more of my money SOONER.



Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Cyrrex on September 03, 2019, 12:12:20 AM
This is going to require an Nvidia RTX 5000000080000000 isn't it?


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Strazos on September 03, 2019, 06:43:35 PM
As good a reason as any to upgrade from my launch 980 GTX.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Surlyboi on September 03, 2019, 08:46:07 PM
This is going to require an Nvidia RTX 5000000080000000 isn't it?

Four of them, running parallel and eating all your standard slots plus an enclosure built specifically for one more.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Strazos on September 03, 2019, 11:15:05 PM
And external power sources, too, like the cancelled Voodoo5.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Riggswolfe on September 04, 2019, 11:09:50 AM
The latest "controversy" is that cutscenes are almost entirely first person it seems. I don't understand why they have such a boner for pure first person in this game. While I think it's silly for people to be upset over it i do get the comments that go "so what's the point of the detailed character creator if I rarely see my character?" I'm not going to lie. I like designing my characters and have been known to choose armor/clothes for looks over stats from time to time.  If I have the option I always play 3rd person because I like seeing my character. Yeah, I'm that person. Sue me.

I think this game is going to be awesome but I do think CD Projekt needs to get a handle on what information is released and how it is released. We keep seeing developers make comments in interviews or on twitter that blows up. Also, and I hate to say it, but it feels like some games journalists have it in for this game for some reason. Like that Rock Paper Shotgun guy a few pages back. These guys fellate anything Rockstar does but they're going out of their way to find things wrong with this game and it's annoying.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: lesion on September 04, 2019, 06:55:16 PM
It's like a space sim not having starview glamcam or whatever which is pretty easily changed (or modded...maybe? Bueller?). There also seemed to be an on-model preview for equipment so people can fashion it up. The ice bath scene was pretty fuckin' cool though. :grin:


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Rendakor on September 04, 2019, 07:37:37 PM
The latest "controversy" is that cutscenes are almost entirely first person it seems. I don't understand why they have such a boner for pure first person in this game. While I think it's silly for people to be upset over it i do get the comments that go "so what's the point of the detailed character creator if I rarely see my character?" I'm not going to lie. I like designing my characters and have been known to choose armor/clothes for looks over stats from time to time.  If I have the option I always play 3rd person because I like seeing my character. Yeah, I'm that person. Sue me.
I'm the complete opposite; I couldn't get into Witcher 3 because of the 3rd person camera plus janky movement controls. If I could have played in in first person with 1:1 movement I'm sure I would have loved it, so I'm glad they're going first person with this game.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Surlyboi on September 04, 2019, 10:01:11 PM
There are some scenes that need the cinematic feel that third person brings. There are others tat probably won't. If the game can make me feel like first person works, I'm there.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Sky on September 05, 2019, 04:52:27 PM
I'm over first person for just about everything but minecraft (which has 3rd person as needed tho). It's just limiting and weird.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Falconeer on September 06, 2019, 01:18:15 PM
Shooting feels so much better in first person though, always.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Cyrrex on September 06, 2019, 01:31:25 PM
Yeah, if the game is partly or mostly shooty, it has to be first person.  There are only really a few successful exceptions to this rule, no?


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Yegolev on September 06, 2019, 02:35:36 PM
Reticles are reticles, yo.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Trippy on September 06, 2019, 02:37:29 PM
Hmm...for run and gun gameplay not sure I agree.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: schild on September 06, 2019, 08:42:04 PM
Reticles are reticles, yo.

no


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Cyrrex on September 07, 2019, 06:44:07 AM
Reticles are reticles, yo.

Not even a little.  But you know that already.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Yegolev on September 07, 2019, 05:13:03 PM
I will concede this may be a personal preference. Games are great because in RL, guns don't have reticles and you almost always hit what the dot is on.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: lamaros on September 09, 2019, 07:59:36 PM
I'm the complete opposite; I couldn't get into Witcher 3 because of the 3rd person camera plus janky movement controls. If I could have played in in first person with 1:1 movement I'm sure I would have loved it, so I'm glad they're going first person with this game.

This is me too.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: WayAbvPar on September 11, 2019, 10:44:19 PM
Loved everything from the video except the narrator. He sucked deeply.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Falconeer on January 16, 2020, 12:20:55 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/EBDQwK3.png)


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Sky on January 16, 2020, 01:12:20 PM
Good. I'm sure the Internet will lose its collective mind about that announcement, but I'm firmly in the school of 'when it's done.'  If nothing else, the Witcher 3 shows they'll deliver something pretty special, and they know we're all thinking that.

I'm wicked torn, because I love the convenience of my PS4 and want to get it on there...but it's 1st person with guns so I want it on the PC for mouse aiming...but my pc is bordering on ancient now...gah.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Lucas on January 16, 2020, 01:51:37 PM
Nah, they just wanted to give Nvidia more time to put out their "3000s" cards, c'mon (which might very well happen, now).


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: 01101010 on January 16, 2020, 02:13:41 PM
Good. I'm sure the Internet will lose its collective mind about that announcement, but I'm firmly in the school of 'when it's done.' 

Does this apply to Star Citizen as well?  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Trippy on January 16, 2020, 02:18:22 PM
As an aside Square Enix is breathing a big sigh of relief. They just announced a delay of FFVII Remake from March to April a couple of days ago which had put it in direct competition with Cyberpunk 2077.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Cyrrex on January 17, 2020, 03:19:51 AM
The rate at which entertaining games, TV and movies come out these days, delays no longer bug me.  I already have more shit to get through than I will ever manage, and the pile just gets bigger.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Falconeer on January 17, 2020, 05:23:52 PM
Exactly. In fact, I am happy as so much stuff is coming out in March/April. Final Fantasy 7, Last of Us, Wasteland 3, and New World, all coming out in those 2 months.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Yegolev on January 21, 2020, 08:25:27 AM
Animal Crossing in March.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: Falconeer on January 21, 2020, 10:09:33 AM
Steam or it didn't happen.


Title: Re: Cyberpunk 2077
Post by: 01101010 on April 11, 2020, 11:56:20 AM
Man I bet the team really wishes it could have polished this up earlier. That said, this will come out just in time for wave two to hit I suspect.