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Reply #140 on: January 16, 2020, 12:20:55 PM


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Reply #141 on: January 16, 2020, 01:12:20 PM

Good. I'm sure the Internet will lose its collective mind about that announcement, but I'm firmly in the school of 'when it's done.'  If nothing else, the Witcher 3 shows they'll deliver something pretty special, and they know we're all thinking that.

I'm wicked torn, because I love the convenience of my PS4 and want to get it on there...but it's 1st person with guns so I want it on the PC for mouse aiming...but my pc is bordering on ancient now...gah.

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Reply #142 on: January 16, 2020, 01:51:37 PM

Nah, they just wanted to give Nvidia more time to put out their "3000s" cards, c'mon (which might very well happen, now).

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Reply #143 on: January 16, 2020, 02:13:41 PM

Good. I'm sure the Internet will lose its collective mind about that announcement, but I'm firmly in the school of 'when it's done.' 

Does this apply to Star Citizen as well?  why so serious?

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Reply #144 on: January 16, 2020, 02:18:22 PM

As an aside Square Enix is breathing a big sigh of relief. They just announced a delay of FFVII Remake from March to April a couple of days ago which had put it in direct competition with Cyberpunk 2077.
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Reply #145 on: January 17, 2020, 03:19:51 AM

The rate at which entertaining games, TV and movies come out these days, delays no longer bug me.  I already have more shit to get through than I will ever manage, and the pile just gets bigger.

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Reply #146 on: January 17, 2020, 05:23:52 PM

Exactly. In fact, I am happy as so much stuff is coming out in March/April. Final Fantasy 7, Last of Us, Wasteland 3, and New World, all coming out in those 2 months.

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Reply #147 on: January 21, 2020, 08:25:27 AM

Animal Crossing in March.

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Reply #148 on: January 21, 2020, 10:09:33 AM

Steam or it didn't happen.

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Reply #149 on: April 11, 2020, 11:56:20 AM

Man I bet the team really wishes it could have polished this up earlier. That said, this will come out just in time for wave two to hit I suspect.

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Reply #150 on: June 19, 2020, 12:26:32 PM

Man I bet the team really wishes it could have polished this up earlier. That said, this will come out just in time for wave two to hit I suspect.

At this rate maybe not... Pushed back to November now.

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Reply #151 on: June 19, 2020, 09:18:16 PM

The hype levels and presale campaign for this game are utterly stupid. I've been a cyberpunk literature fan since the 1980s and as a student newspaper editor I published a cyberpunk-themed edition before you could even publicly access the internet. I've obsessed over Deus Ex and Altered Carbon and everything to do with William Gibson, jacking into a matrix and any product finished in chrome, but I'm not going anywhere near this game until it's released and reviewed.
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Reply #152 on: June 20, 2020, 04:08:53 PM

I think the anticipation here is at least based on track record rather than something like No Man's Sky where it was about the extravagant way it was imagined and described. (Though much respect to the NMS people because they eventually made good on a lot of it.)

But yes, I kind of feel like this is now putting an insane burden on those guys. Witcher 3 was as good as it was partly because they had a super-rich canvas already painted to work with. Maybe that's true here too, but I dunno.
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Reply #153 on: June 20, 2020, 06:52:06 PM

Based on track record CDPR has worked on one franchise in their history up and built it up from being janky as hell to eventually AAA. Their team and their budget now is much stronger now than it was when they made the first Witcher. At the same time, I'm not taking it as a given that they've made a smooth transition to working on a Cyberpunk game.
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Reply #154 on: June 20, 2020, 06:55:57 PM

The Witcher 3 is still janky as hell, it's just much less janky than the previous 2.
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Reply #155 on: June 20, 2020, 09:49:47 PM

I am OK with jank if thr writing is good
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Reply #156 on: June 20, 2020, 10:37:51 PM

Like, I'm not sure what the non-jank gold standard is then.
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Reply #157 on: June 20, 2020, 10:53:26 PM

Like, I'm not sure what the non-jank gold standard is then.


For what, precisely?
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Reply #158 on: June 21, 2020, 12:00:07 AM

I think he's asking why Trippy would still consider Witcher 3 janky. Personally, I didn't experience any real jank that I can remember when I played it on the PS4. Compared to other open world games the stuff Bethesda puts out is usually an order of magnitude more janky than Witcher 3 was for me.
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Reply #159 on: June 21, 2020, 12:07:06 AM

witcher series always felt like it had a touch of the eurojank, but it's not like, peak eurojank or anything

it's just there, swimming in the background, reminding you the game is trying its best
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Reply #160 on: June 21, 2020, 12:18:31 AM

The first Witcher was janky enough that I stopped playing it a couple hours in due to a quest item bug that kept me from completing a quest (and this was long after the game had released).
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Reply #161 on: June 21, 2020, 12:51:43 AM

Like, I'm not sure what the non-jank gold standard is then.
There are dozens upon dozens of games that have better 3rd person melee combat systems than The Witcher 3. Movement is also bad with its stupid acceleration/inertia system where you constantly overshoot your intended position requiring multiple tries to get into position to interact with things. The default sets of question marks on the maps are really lame, killing almost all sense of exploration and immersion (the ones that appear when you find clues and notices in the world are fine and helpful). It's also hard to see stuff in "detective mode" and the menuing UI is atrocious.

However the game has old-school BioWare-levels of voice acting, quests, and general storytelling so that makes it compelling to play despite its game play issues.
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Reply #162 on: June 21, 2020, 04:39:58 AM

Yeah, the combat jank is the entire reason I never made it anywhere in Witcher 3.  I even tried to pick it up again two months ago, got dropped into some cave in a saved game, and uninstalled it 20 minutes later.  The combat is best describes as Not Fun.

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Reply #163 on: June 23, 2020, 07:47:31 PM

See, I think the combat jank in Witcher 3 is a frustrating but smart attempt to model the source material's odd and very particular thinking about combat and it really works. I especially appreciate that you can't just go kill some of the monsters with your awesome twitch but that in fact you actually have to got to understand what the fuck you're dealing with.

Witcher 1 is of course fucking awful in almost every way as a game, including combat and Witcher 2 is jankola. But I don't think Witcher 3 is like that.
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Reply #164 on: June 23, 2020, 07:53:22 PM

The jank that Trippy talks about in 3 stopped me playing more than 20mins each time I tried.

See, I think the combat jank in Witcher 3 is a frustrating but smart attempt to model the source material's odd and very particular thinking about combat and it really works.

Yes, they've made deliberately unfun combat systems in all their games in order to stay true to the source material.

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Reply #165 on: June 23, 2020, 09:46:41 PM

I've cleared the Witcher 3 at least 3 times and I'm not sure what you all are talking about. The combat has a rhythm that you fall into and I tend to wade through most fights except a couple bullshit boss fights. But even those are easy with the right signs.

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Reply #166 on: June 24, 2020, 03:48:59 AM

Has anyone played the 3 games side by side? I think TW3's combat is still janky, but they probably made a huge effort to make it smoother as it has always been one of the biggest flaws of the series. Not familiar with the books but I thought that combat in the games is inspired by the books, though the interpretation was still up to CD Projekt Red.
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Reply #167 on: June 24, 2020, 07:10:02 AM

The combat was always the worst part of the Witcher games if you come from the TRPG side. In 3 it was manageable and with the right signs and potions could be easily cheesed to victory. While there wasn't a Witcher game where the combat improved the experience, it at least didn't distract from the game in 3. Boss fights even had the meticulous planning once expected from a Witcher monster hunting encounter.
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Reply #168 on: June 24, 2020, 07:26:04 AM

This. I played 2 all the way to the end and I never liked or got used to the combat.

I was used to 3's combat and really quite liking it pretty quickly.
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Reply #169 on: June 24, 2020, 08:50:40 AM

If the swordplay isn't your jam, just max out everything about Igni until you get the enhancement that lets Aard freeze enemies and respec fur pure Aard to breeze through the rest of the game.
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Reply #170 on: June 24, 2020, 09:47:41 AM

What 3rd person fantasy rpgs have better combat?

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Reply #171 on: June 24, 2020, 09:58:10 AM

Every single one from From Software. The end.

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Reply #172 on: June 24, 2020, 01:12:53 PM

I disagree with what you've said. Caveat: I haven't gotten into a From Soft game since Demon's Souls.  awesome, for real They're just not my thing.

Is the recent God of War a RPG? Horizon: Zero Dawn? Spider-man? Dead Cells?

Witcher 3's combat was probably the best of the 3 Witcher games. The first game's combat was really odd and limited parts of the game severely. 2's combat was garbage on launch and was OK after a year of fixes.



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Reply #173 on: June 24, 2020, 01:38:35 PM

Every single one from From Software. The end.

By a mile.  Might not be everyone’s cup of tea, but it is surely better than Witcher combat.

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Reply #174 on: June 24, 2020, 02:03:44 PM

Witcher 3 combat is the least janky western rpg combat I've experienced from a guy who generally gets bored of other third party "sword and sorcery" games. What has "good" combat than?

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