Fallout 4 Post-Release Bullshit

[Velorath]

Mass Effect 3 for example experienced significant delays because of the co-op multiplayer not being ready on time. This lead to all kinds of internal resource reshuffling and also to the single player campaign getting less resources than would have been necessary.

Some even argue that the way the ending was handled was due to the multiplayer having eaten up so much time and budget that they had no way of finishing the single player before release.

So I'm in the camp of people that are skeptical about content like the world building because it seems to be unnecessary for the way I'd like a new Fallout to play and it might direct resources away from the more essential parts of the game.

Yeah, it sounds completely likely that the problems with Mass Effect 3's ending were due to them working in Multiplayer that a different studio was making.

[Bunk]

I absolutely love the idea of adding world building elements to it. Especially due to the connotations for Modding. 

[Jeff Kelly]

Yeah, it sounds completely likely that the problems with Mass Effect 3's ending were due to them working in Multiplayer that a different studio was making.

Except that Bioware employees said that the multiplayer caused serious delays and that Bioware internal resources working on the SP had to be attached to that development in order to make sure it got finished on time. Transferring resources away from ME 3 to help out with Star Wars: TOR didn't help either.

Bioware's release date for ME 3 got pushed back 6 months and was very close to be pushed back another 3 - 6 when it was decided that it would ship close to christmas.

be that as it may though. All of this "build your own fort" stuff has to be debveloped and tested and budgeted and if this takes resources away from the single player campaign and I'Lll be rather pissed off.

[Lantyssa]

If it was delayed several times, then wouldn't that indicate they had more time to work on the ending, even if it was reduced staffing during that period?  You're trying to rationalize why it was a bad ending when they were just morons about it.  Look at how long and stridently they defended Red, Green, Blue.  It wasn't a matter of resource allocation.

[KallDrexx]

I'm not surprised they decided to have the town building thing in a sandbox game as since Morrowind people have been trying to find and decorate their houses (even if it means filling their house with hundreds of watermelons). 

Town building game seems to be a pretty natural extension of that in my opinion, but I do agree that it seems more natural in an ES game rather than a Fallout game (though not game-breakingly so).

[Malakili]

 I dunno, building a half functional post apocalyptic settlement actually sounds more like something a survivor of the wasteland would try to do instead of building a settlement in a world full of fully functioning towns in Skyrim or something.

[Sophismata]

Some even argue that the way the ending was handled was due to the multiplayer having eaten up so much time and budget that they had no way of finishing the single player before release.

Eh, ME3 was mediocre-to-terrible the entire way through. The unfortunate ending is merely a sad valediction at the end of a long, hateful letter to the rest of the series.

[KallDrexx]

New perks, new shooting, and a very familiar feel

[Miasma]

New perks, new shooting, and a very familiar feel

I finally have a game to look forward to.

[Tannhauser]

Oh yes.

[Signe]

[Maledict]

Yeah, it sounds completely likely that the problems with Mass Effect 3's ending were due to them working in Multiplayer that a different studio was making.

Except that Bioware employees said that the multiplayer caused serious delays and that Bioware internal resources working on the SP had to be attached to that development in order to make sure it got finished on time. Transferring resources away from ME 3 to help out with Star Wars: TOR didn't help either.

Bioware's release date for ME 3 got pushed back 6 months and was very close to be pushed back another 3 - 6 when it was decided that it would ship close to christmas.

be that as it may though. All of this "build your own fort" stuff has to be debveloped and tested and budgeted and if this takes resources away from the single player campaign and I'Lll be rather pissed off.

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Um, you're reading different things than I did about ME3 s ending.

The writers who posted stuff on PA, that was subsequently deleted, were quite clear that it was nothing to do with the multiplayer at all. It was handled by another studio, and wasn't an issue at all.

The problem was simply not enough time to resolve the ending - they kept getting stuck on how to resolve it, and having Javik be taken out as DLC meant the ending had to be rewritten again at the last minute. in the end, the two main writers locked themsleves in a room and deliberately chose an ending to cause "speculation", and sidestepped the usual Bioware writing process of having the writing team critique each individual bit. That's how the game has some truly brilliant writing (Mordins arc, Thane's death) alongside the unbeliveably crappy ending.

[rk47]

Leaked Alpha Footage

[Sky]

Leaked Alpha Footage

Leaked soundtrack

[Miasma]

Leaked Alpha Footage

I am sorely looking forward to that improved companion AI.  Seems like there's a shortcut to just go from day->night instead of resting X hours which is nice.  Based on the teaser of entering the vault at the end it looks like they may have changed canon and moved the outbreak of nuclear war from the 50's to the 70's though.  I'm not sure why they would go in that direction.

[luckton]

Leaked Alpha Footage

I am sorely looking forward to that improved companion AI.  Seems like there's a shortcut to just go from day->night instead of resting X hours which is nice.  Based on the teaser of entering the vault at the end it looks like they may have changed canon and moved the outbreak of nuclear war from the 50's to the 70's though.  I'm not sure why they would go in that direction.

20 years of technological development pre-war is huge. Would allow them to bring in tech options and lore that hadn't/couldn't have been considered before. Also, 20 more years of music and cultural selection/variety/exploitation.

[Miasma]

The 70's music would be a massive upgrade from that crooner shit Sky linked.  I will only accept this change if I get to actually drive a VW bus though.

A VW bus with a gatling laser turret on top.  I demand the juxtaposition of a hippie peace symbol on a VW Bus armed with a weapon of mass destruction.

Edit: In hindsight the AI, though greatly upgraded, did wig out around the 2:10 mark.  I'm sure they'll have it fixed by release though.

[Teleku]

....you guys realize the nuclear war happened in the year 2077, right?

It's just a weird future world where everything looks like a 1950's version of the far future.

[Miasma]

....you guys realize the nuclear war happened in the year 2077, right?

It's just a weird future world where everything looks like a 1950's version of the far future.

You clearly didn't watch the video my friend.

[Sky]

The 70's music would be a massive upgrade from that crooner shit Sky linked.

You shut your dirty damned pie hole, talking about Bocephus like that.

[Miasma]

Hm, this didn't work very well.  I was pretending you linked an actual leaked sound track which would have been 50's music like crooners.

[Fabricated]

I want a post-apocalyptic RPG that takes place in a world where the apocalypse actually happened in the mid to late 90's or early 2000's. So I can have a Sony 90's walkman styled pipboy blasting out "classic" numetal and ska

[Velorath]

I want a post-apocalyptic RPG that takes place in a world where the apocalypse actually happened in the mid to late 90's or early 2000's. So I can have a Sony 90's walkman styled pipboy blasting out "classic" numetal and ska

The survivors would envy the dead.

[palmer_eldritch]

A world where all progress ended in the 1970s and survivors fight over treasures such as Afghan coats and Bay City Roller cassettes sounds like fun to me

[rattran]

A world where all progress ended in the 1970s and survivors fight over treasures such as Afghan coats and Bay City Roller cassettes sounds like fun to me

Sounds like Canada to me...

[Bunk]

[Sky]

Screenshot of the new Canadian-based Fallout 4 gameplay: http://i.imgur.com/EcUyPHM.jpg

[Fabricated]

I want a post-apocalyptic RPG that takes place in a world where the apocalypse actually happened in the mid to late 90's or early 2000's. So I can have a Sony 90's walkman styled pipboy blasting out "classic" numetal and ska

The survivors would envy the dead.

Gonna blast some Slipknot on my Sony PipMan and dome these sorry raiders with my modded Tek9, wearing layered denim armor and shutter shades

[Sky]

You forgot to smack your bitch up, Barbie girl.

[apocrypha]

Fallout 4 - Launch and Beyond

No great surprises but good to have them clearly state:

Like all our previous games, we’ve made sure to keep Fallout 4 open and moddable at every step in development. Early next year we’ll release for free the new Creation Kit for the PC. This is the same tool we use in the studio. You'll be able to create your own mods and share them with others. We’re especially excited these same mods will then be coming to Xbox One, and then PlayStation 4.

I did notice that there's no assurance that those mods will all be free.... but I'd have hoped they're not ready to poke that hornet's nest again so soon.

[satael]

Fallout 4 - Launch and Beyond

No great surprises but good to have them clearly state:

Like all our previous games, we’ve made sure to keep Fallout 4 open and moddable at every step in development. Early next year we’ll release for free the new Creation Kit for the PC. This is the same tool we use in the studio. You'll be able to create your own mods and share them with others. We’re especially excited these same mods will then be coming to Xbox One, and then PlayStation 4.

I did notice that there's no assurance that those mods will all be free.... but I'd have hoped they're not ready to poke that hornet's nest again so soon.

I would even wager that they'll bring back paid mods since there's no controversy over previously free mods this time. The idea of being able to monetize modding must be too tempting to pass (considering something like Nexus has 755+ million downloads of 43k+ files for Skyrim alone). 

[apocrypha]

Honestly I think they'll get exactly the same outrage as before if they try it again, irrespective of it being a new game.

What they saw last time was that it massively pissed off their fanbase, garnering them nothing except negative press. Plus it resulted in a slew of utterly shite mods being released solely to try and cash in. It did neither them nor the image of their game any good at all. They'd be fools to try it again so soon.

[Merusk]

They'd be fools...

Gaming Execs.

[Evildrider]

And now you need another 30 bucks for the Season pass on the DLC's.   

[Malakili]

Am I the only one who hates the term "season pass" to DLC.? I don't mind paying for DLC expansions, but season pass makes me feel like I'm buying admission to the zoo for the summer instead of putting money down for DLC I'll have in my steam library forever.  Even if its a good deal (cheaper than the individual DLCs that come out) I somehow always feel like I'm being ripped off by anything called a season pass in a video game.