Draegan
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3D is like anything else, it's pretty good if it's done well and shitty if it's done not well.
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Yegolev
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They usually show a 2D version for old people, so no need to blow a gasket.
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3D is actually one of those things which is really lacking a grey area. It exceeds or it is frustratingly sub-par. At least, as far as I've seen.
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Yegolev
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eldaec
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3D is actually one of those things which is really lacking a grey area, it is frustratingly sub-par.
Even JJ A freely admits it is awful but the multiplexes like to charge extra and people keep queuing up pretending this time will be different so c'est la vie.
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3D is dying (again) slowly but surely. Give it another five-ten years and nobody will bother with it.
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You can hate Cameron and Avatar (I like some of what he's done, but Avatar is all sensation, no thought) but in visual and cinematographic terms, Cameron showed everyone what 3-D had to be if it was going to be worth it. Not just in the more spectacular scenes but in the way he did depth-of-field work in the quieter ones. Almost nobody out there in mainstream cinematography is prepared to think that way, whether they make quiet little movies or big summer spectaculars. So mostly it's been a forgettable bunch of essentially 2-D movies with a few sideshow-tent scenes.
It won't take hold unless a new generation of filmmakers are ready to use it fully and imaginatively.
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UnSub
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3D is dying (again) slowly but surely. Give it another five-ten years and nobody will bother with it.
In 5 - 10 years the entire cinema industry may be dead too. 3D isn't the problem.
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3D is their effort to entice you to the theater now that everyone has 72" screens at home. But you're right, no one is doing it like Cameron did with Avatar. That movie was amazing looking.
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lamaros
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I got nothing out of Avatar's use of 3D. Am I the only one?
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Riggswolfe
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3D is dying (again) slowly but surely. Give it another five-ten years and nobody will bother with it.
In 5 - 10 years the entire cinema industry may be dead too. 3D isn't the problem. I rarely go to the movies anymore unless it is an "Event" movie for my friends and I. Star Wars would qualify but I never, ever, EVER see movies in 3d. Screw paying extra for a gimmick.
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Yegolev
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Watched Thor tonight in 3D. The chair was pretty comfortable!
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I got nothing out of Avatar's use of 3D. Am I the only one?
It was a pretty film. That's about it.
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Ragnoros
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I watched Pacific Rim in IMAX 3D and now recently on my 42 inch tv.
Bottom line, as much as I hate to admit it, IMAX 3D makes a huge difference.
The experiences were just in no way comparable.
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Khaldun
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With Avatar 3D, the thing to watch is the way that Cameron uses something almost like focus stacking to get deep background visuals into the actual "deep background". Most of the time 3D effects concentrate on getting shit out into your imagined foreground--stuff that thrusts out towards the audience, visuals that are 'outside the screen'. But there's a quiet thing going on in Avatar 3D where there is stuff way back of the screen as well as forward of it--it's one of the few films where I had that sense. Coraline 3D also.
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This is a good thing IMO.
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Tannhauser
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As someone who thought the EU was trash, I approve of this.
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I feel sorry for the executive assistants who are going to have to read through all that cockspittle.
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Over and out.
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What fucking moron came up with that design? I hope the artist that had to draw that shit stabbed him in the groin.
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Lakov_Sanite
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What fucking moron came up with that design? I hope the artist that had to draw that shit stabbed him in the groin.
With his cock-mounted lightsaber?
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Odds are not bad that the silly design was BECAUSE of an artist.
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Stormwaltz
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The overwhelming majority of the EU was eyerollingly awful. I'm okay with this.
I'll be over here, fervently hoping that everything created by Kevin J Anderson dies in a continuity fire.
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They'll probably keep the Bioware stuff I imagine, since it doesn't really touch on anything they're ever going to want to do themselves, and there's pretty much nothing else worth caring about. Maybe that Clone Wars cartoon, people seemed to like that.
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eldaec
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The old republic has the sterling quality of being a current income stream.
I'd guess that, the clone wars, and the films.
I really can't see why they'd keep anything else.
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What fucking moron came up with that design? I hope the artist that had to draw that shit stabbed him in the groin.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Children_of_the_JediBarbara Hambly is a blight and wrote some of *THE WORST* of the Star Wars EU novels. Which is why I'm so very very happy the EU is being torpedoed. This was hinted at in one or two quotes when Disney bought the franchise but I couldn't find them earlier in this thread to repost when some folks said I was full of it. The quote at the time was something along the lines of "No, we only care about the movie characters which is what the public knows. There are some side characters from the EU we'll use and the rest is up for discussion." Hahaha. My only concern is that they might keep the Vohng. Depends on how Leland Chee feels about them, but I've always thought it was out of line and made the Emperor seem reasonable. Which goes against the entire original conception of the series.
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There is some decent EU stuff. It gets a bad rap, but for fun scifi pulp I've read a bunch of stuff. Best and most interesting for Disney's canon cannon (sorry) is pretty obviously Zahn's stuff, since it's smack in the time period Disney is going to be working in, and some of the best of the EU stuff.
Karpyshyn's was about where I'd draw the line, it wasn't too bad (unless you get 'serious' about that kind of thing, oh that's right I'm on f13 nm). I thought Fatal Alliance by Williams was a surprisingly good pulp action book. Paul S Kemp wrote some pretty horrific stuff (Sith trying not to get angry? The smuggler with a heart of gold and a disabled kid? Blah).
Anyway. I'd say Bioware's (and possibly by extension Karpyshyn's) Old Republic stuff would make the cut and be a great way to develop the IP. Then the Clone Wars. I think they'll cherry pick from Zahn as it suits them for the new movies. We'll see Thrawn almost certainly, I don't know how you can work in Mara unless they put in a new actor for Luke.
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Lakov_Sanite
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I don't know how you can work in Mara unless they put in a new actor for Luke.
I'd bet money she's going to be the love interest for luke's son instead. I don't think that it would be too ludicrous to assume they will be keeping popular characters but slightly shifting where they fit in.
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It's been years since I read any of the EU books, but I do recall the Thrawn Trilogy being decent.
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The only SW novel I've finished is The Courtship of Princess Leia (shutup). It was decent. I started the Thrawn trilogy, got halfway thru the first book and thought 'wtf am I reading?' and dropped it.
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It'd be nice if they axed the prequels.
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Merusk
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As I just mentioned to Falconeer on FB, I suspect the real impetus here is to wipe away any unresolved or grey-area claims to characters or ideas in the EU. We don't know what the rights and deals for all the EU novels were but The Mouse is notorious for wanting it in stark black and white that they own everything about everything and you only get paid for the exact project you were brought in for. No grey-area for video game, movie or later digital rights to come back and smack them in the face.
Hell "digital rights" weren't even a thing when a good portion of the EU was written.
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My only concern is that they might keep the Vohng. Depends on how Leland Chee feels about them, but I've always thought it was out of line and made the Emperor seem reasonable. Which goes against the entire original conception of the series.
I dunno. I felt like the original trilogy featured a cardboard cutout Emporer as merely a boogeyman. The prequels established some of the reasons behind what he did. Dark Jedi/Sith aren't necessarily always bad. More often than not they're just trying to get something done and don't want to follow the rules, nor self-regulate, and eventually stop caring about collateral damage and stuff. That would feed well into a Yuuzhan Vong plot. Don't bother using any of the books per se, they mostly sucked (except for the second Zahn book that kicked off them arriving). Just keep the extra-galactic Force-blind race itself, as the Klngons of the SW universe.
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Stormwaltz
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Avoid anything by Kevin J Anderson, SW or otherwise.
When Drew's first SW novel came out, I remember it being quite striking where he had to work in continuity with earlier books and comics. The dumb shit stood out in sharp contrast.
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