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Reply #455 on: April 28, 2012, 04:16:42 PM

Very odd draft for 49ers, time will tell but they seemed lost.

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Reply #456 on: April 28, 2012, 07:39:17 PM

That was awesome!  Soooo glad they drafted a protector for Stafford even though, being the Lions, they just HAD to get a WR.  Ohhhhh, I see.
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Reply #457 on: April 28, 2012, 07:55:25 PM

That was awesome!  Soooo glad they drafted a protector for Stafford even though, being the Lions, they just HAD to get a WR.  Ohhhhh, I see.

Well, Calvin Johnson is on the cover of Madden this year so they needed a backup plan.  awesome, for real

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Reply #458 on: April 29, 2012, 12:11:09 PM

Yeah no shit. I'm still not sure why athletes don't just block EA's number when the Madden folks start calling. "Yes, I'd love to get $50k to be the cover athlete. I don't need that ACL."

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Reply #459 on: April 29, 2012, 12:22:05 PM

It's strange that the cover selection is now determined by a fan poll. Do you vote for or against your favorite players?

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Reply #460 on: April 29, 2012, 05:47:38 PM

That was awesome!  Soooo glad they drafted a protector for Stafford even though, being the Lions, they just HAD to get a WR.  Ohhhhh, I see.

Well, Calvin Johnson is on the cover of Madden this year so they needed a backup plan.  awesome, for real

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Reply #461 on: April 29, 2012, 07:45:49 PM

Well it was nice watching the Browns grab T.Rich and I am even ok with taking Weeden, and the RT to help out with the run blocking... but in true Cleveland fashion, they shit the bed after that. a 5'9" WR?  Sigh. Another 3-13 season on the way. Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #462 on: April 29, 2012, 08:12:58 PM

I know a lot of people bag on Weeden because he is old, and because he doesn't have the flash of a guy like Griffin but I watched quite a few Ok State games last season and he showed a ton of poise and leadership ability.

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Reply #463 on: April 29, 2012, 08:44:40 PM

I think the Browns had one of the worst drafts in the league. They should have rolled the dice with Colt and spent that second pick on the offensive line or defense. If Colt still sucks ass with Richardson helping him then congrats you go get one of the top three QB's in 2013 draft whatever it takes and go from there.

Again I honestly think that Wheeden would be there for them at 67 and if he wasn't I cannot believe that they really thought he was that much of a safer gamble compared to Cousins/Wilson who in the 3rd/4th would be getting paid that much less.

Unless their picks on defense (which were pretty cool, there's a lot to like about Acho and the Nevada kid) work out though this is the draft that will doom Shurmur.

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Reply #464 on: April 29, 2012, 08:58:51 PM

Wheedon was a decent pickup, considering how shitty the Browns are at QB. 
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Reply #465 on: April 30, 2012, 01:05:28 PM

Think about it like this. A 1st round QB pick isn't going to cost them more than $20 million and could work out really well. Or, it could if they weren't Cleveland.  Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #466 on: April 30, 2012, 01:28:32 PM

They could have had Kellen Moore for free basically too, I still expect him to be much better than people think.

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Reply #467 on: April 30, 2012, 01:33:54 PM

I doubt Kellen Moore will amount to much.  There's a reason that he went undrafted.  

Here's a nice article on the subject.  

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My response to the Kellen Moore crowd is, welcome to reality. In the N.F.L., arm strength counts. So does size. And speed. And athleticism. In a vacuum, none of these traits are vital. But even in a vacuum, each of them is more important than “being a winner.” Moore is a winner, sure. But he’s won at the amateur level. Simply put, that doesn’t matter to  N.F.L. talent evaluators.

It’s easy to see why. People don’t realize just how gargantuan the gap is between college and professional football. Take Alabama. It was the top program in college football this past year, and it also produced the highest number of draft picks this past weekend, eight. The 2011 Crimson Tide had 112 players on the roster. Let’s be generous and assume Bama can continue to produce eight draft picks each year. Eight players from the freshman, sophomore, junior and senior classes equals 32 players. So 32 members of the team will get drafted. That means 80 won’t.
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Reply #468 on: April 30, 2012, 02:46:57 PM

I am pleased with the last two drafts out of my Cowboys. I'm less pleased about the fact we still have our mental midget QB, but we only have to put up with him for 2 more years.

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Reply #469 on: April 30, 2012, 06:59:48 PM

They could have had Kellen Moore for free basically too, I still expect him to be much better than people think.

I think Moore will do well.

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Reply #470 on: April 30, 2012, 07:46:06 PM

Moore will probably never even play a down in the NFL.
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Reply #471 on: April 30, 2012, 07:57:15 PM

There's a reason that he went undrafted.

Because NFL personnel people make the scouts in the Moneyball movie look like the staff of Baseball Prospectus.

Ryan Lindley from SDSU was picked in the 6th round by the Cardinals, he had a slightly lower overall grade to Moore on account of:

Mental Makeup: "puts too much faith in arm strength and throws into coverage far too often"
Accuracy: "far too inconsistent with his accuracy"
Pocket Mobility: "Pocket presence and mobility are below average"

but hey, he looks like a Quarterback:

Release/Arm Strength: "Arm strength is just a notch below elite"
Height-Weight-Speed: "Prototypical blend of height and weight"

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Reply #472 on: April 30, 2012, 08:07:13 PM

Just because you are drafted high doesn't mean you will pan out (Ryan Leaf), but other than Tony Romo and Kurt Warner, I don't know of any undrafted QBs in the past 20 years that were worth a shit. 
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Reply #473 on: May 01, 2012, 08:14:25 AM

Moore was signed by Detroit. I hope Stafford has an injury free year, but there are still questions there IMO.

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Reply #474 on: May 01, 2012, 09:55:27 AM

Moore is still third on the depth chart (and will probably stay there). 

I personally will root for the guy.  He seems like a class act and a hard worker.  I just don't think he'll go anywhere.  He will, however, get the best job in the world, which is holding a clipboard on the sidelines of NFL games for a nice salary.
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Reply #475 on: May 01, 2012, 11:46:57 AM

As a Lions homer, I can safely say that Shaun Hill sucks so.......I'd say that 2nd spot will be up for grabs in 2013.

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Reply #476 on: May 01, 2012, 01:04:25 PM

As a Lions homer, I can safely say that Shaun Hill sucks so.......I'd say that 2nd spot will be up for grabs in 2013.

And with Stafford's glass shoulders, it won't be long.  why so serious?

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Reply #477 on: May 01, 2012, 01:42:56 PM

It's strange that the cover selection is now determined by a fan poll. Do you vote for or against your favorite players?

The Bears fan community was only divided over whose ballot box to stuff, Megatron or Rodgers.
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Reply #478 on: May 01, 2012, 01:45:33 PM

Can we start up a pool?  I've got 5 dollars on a collar bone break in the 4th game.

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Reply #479 on: May 01, 2012, 02:54:43 PM

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Reply #480 on: May 01, 2012, 10:54:54 PM

Can we start up a pool?  I've got 5 dollars on a collar bone break in the 4th game.

I predict he will buck the trend and break the curse.

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Reply #481 on: May 02, 2012, 07:33:03 AM

I'm going to agree with Cyrex.  And I'm also going to predict a superbowl win.  


Edited to add this:

The Bucs have added former Rutgers player Eric Legrand to their 90 man roster.  He was paralyzed from the waist down while playing.  That is pretty goddamned cool. 

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As a member of the Scarlet Knights, LeGrand suffered a devastating spinal injury in a game against Army in October of 2010. The defensive tackle attempted to wrap up an opposing player, but injured himself in the collision. He was carted off the field and taken to a nearby hospital where doctors determined he was paralyzed from the neck down. He has not walked in 19 months.
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Reply #482 on: May 02, 2012, 08:51:27 AM

That's pretty classy of them

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Reply #483 on: May 02, 2012, 09:21:48 AM

4 players suspended for their roles in the bounty system

Johnny Vilma-  Season
Anthony Hargrove-  8 games
Will Smith-  4 games
Scott Fujita-  3 games

This seems like a pretty heavy handed deal for just 2 players.  While on paper it seems like a harsh deal, only a couple of players got really hit.  I find it hard to believe that it was just these four guys. 
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Reply #484 on: May 02, 2012, 09:24:06 AM

Vilma was the one quoted as putting a 10k hit on Favre. I imagine that dollar amount and flagrancy of the action did not help him.

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Reply #485 on: May 02, 2012, 09:29:56 AM

Yeah, not surprised at all by that suspension. 
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Reply #486 on: May 02, 2012, 10:54:21 AM

That's pretty classy of them

Indeed.  Greg Schiano, new Bucs coach, was the coach at Rutgers for the last decade or so.  Cool to see him do that.
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Reply #487 on: May 02, 2012, 11:26:27 AM


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Reply #488 on: May 02, 2012, 12:05:52 PM

I just heard that on Yahoo. That's awful!

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Reply #489 on: May 02, 2012, 12:46:04 PM

One can only assume that his car wreck in 2010 was a previous suicide attempt. 
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