This Was my Last MMO

[angry.bob]

As was also discussed in some 300 page thread about stuff not changing much from the Old Republic setting to the Star Wars era setting, once you've perfected faster than light travel, effectively limitless power sources, and controlable AI smarter than most of the people using it the only thing likely to change much is the aesthetics.

[rk47]

So..I'm wondering. Is this thing Origin tied? So if that's the case, I can't really purchase an access over someone else's account is it? I mean, after they got bored of it, I can skip the box purchase and just re-sub under their name? No?

*Still not on the TOR boat*

[Ingmar]

Not tied to Origin, at least from my physical copy.

[Ratman_tf]

I'll take Han Solo-shaped carbonite man over the Yuuzhan Vong or whatever the fuck they were called any day.

Oh, no question. I agreed simply because I got the same feeling that some of their callbacks worked and some kinda fell flat. But I managed to resist nerdraging and throwing my monitor out the window.

[FieryBalrog]

As was also discussed in some 300 page thread about stuff not changing much from the Old Republic setting and Star Wars era setting, once you've perfected faster than light travel, effectively limitless power sources, and controlable AI smarter than most of the people using it the only thing likely to change much is the aesthetics.

So technology is perfect in Star Wars? Some sort of technological singularity?

Weird. I'd figure that would include personal jetpacks and immortality.

[Fordel]

They have Jetpacks!

Not so sure on the immortality though.

[eldaec]

I can rationalise this one...

The period between TOR and the movies sees the galaxy run exclusively by the republic.

The canon demonstrates the republic leadership to consist exclusively of idiots and hippies. Hence, no social, economic or technological progress for several thousand years.

[FieryBalrog]

They have Jetpacks!

only for the 1%

[apocrypha]

I can rationalise this one...

The period between TOR and the movies sees the galaxy run exclusively by the republic.

The canon demonstrates the republic leadership to consist exclusively of idiots and hippies. Hence, no social, economic or technological progress for several thousand years.

Goddamn stupid hippies.

[Merusk]

They have Jetpacks!

Not so sure on the immortality though.

We really don't know anyone's lifespan.. everyone gets killed in accidents or a hail of gunfire/ lightsabers.  Has Yoda lived 900+ years because of his race or tech? We just don't know!

Count that in to the equation of tech as well.  You think shit moves slowly because 80 year olds don't adapt to it here and now.  Imagine our world if we still had to deal with people who participated in the battle of Hastings.  The political parties they'd have to limit the free flow of information on devil's machinery like Crossbows and the freeing of 'beast races' from slavery.  Now extrapolate that to a galaxy with so many conflicting issues and races it's no wonder the Senate bogs down as does technology.

[Cyrrex]

I think the most official canon would indicate that technology has simply been at a standstill for at least a couple thousand years.  There are many (especially EU) contradictions to that, but it's really just easier to assume this as a truth.

[ajax34i]

It's because all the scientists are busy inventing all sorts of planet-busters rather than new phones or whatever.

[01101010]

It's because all the scientists are busy inventing all sorts of planet-busters rather than new phones or whatever.

Explains all the god damn running around. 

[Shatter]

In TOR, 3000 years ago they made their shit awesome, high quality stuff.  Look at the troopers for example, their armor can take blast after blast...even lightsaber dmg.  Now compare that to trooper armor of the movies, fricking arrows from Ewoks goes straight through.  Over those 3000 years they implemented cost savings and the quality of the workmanship degraded over that time.  Im sure much of its made with lead out of Coruchina.

[Fabricated]

Lightsabers had to be toned down from instant limb-cleavers to "burny light sticks" for the game to make any sense, thus they were. I'm fine with that.

It does look hysterically funny sometimes however. I pulled a group of sith for a heroic hoth quest and with 5+ duel-saber sith flailing at me it looked like I was in the meanest rave party ever.

[Khaldun]

As was also discussed in some 300 page thread about stuff not changing much from the Old Republic setting and Star Wars era setting, once you've perfected faster than light travel, effectively limitless power sources, and controlable AI smarter than most of the people using it the only thing likely to change much is the aesthetics.

I love people who act like there can be an authoritative social science position on the real nature of the longue duree of change in a fantasy galaxy that has a mystical Force pervading all life forms, completely fake if not as fake as Star Trek economics (e.g., it seems remarkably easy to create endless numbers of clones and droids as well as huge starships and planetary-scale cities), imaginary FTL which can be fitted in dinky little one-man vessels as well as big ships, and planets with completely homogenous cultures and ecologies. "oh, but of course, as we all know, once technology hits a certain pinnacle, very little will change except aesthetics" is the Star Wars fan version of "Captain, we've recalibrated the sensors to emit handwavium particles to induce singularity formation in a dilthium matrix!"

The explanation is that they decided that players want to play Star Wars and Jedi dammit, but the main storyline of the films doesn't allow for a galaxy full of Sith and Jedi beating on each other. So Star Wars and Jedi it is, just "an even longer time ago in a galaxy far far away". Don't try to ennoble a simple intellectual-property driven decision with imaginary sociopolitical theory.

[Nebu]

As a someone that plays a scientist for a living, I can say that I turn my brain off the moment I play this game.  The thought of having to lead a target with a laser in the vacuum of space would otherwise make me a very crabby person. 

[Fabricated]

As a someone that plays a scientist for a living, I can say that I turn my brain off the moment I play this game.  The thought of having to lead a target with a laser in the vacuum of space would otherwise make me a very crabby person. 

Actually in space combat you don't lead. You shouldn't actually. Your blaster shots WILL hit so long as long as the crosshair is over the enemy when you fire.

[Nebu]

Actually in space combat you don't lead. You shouldn't actually. Your blaster shots WILL hit so long as long as the crosshair is over the enemy when you fire.

I know... but they visually bend.  There's no reason for parallax at visual distance in a vacuum.   

[CmdrSlack]

So long as they go "pew pew," I can forgive all kinds of science.

[angry.bob]

I love people who act like there can be an authoritative social science position on the real nature of the longue duree of change in a fantasy galaxy that has a mystical Force pervading all life forms, completely fake if not as fake as Star Trek economics (e.g., it seems remarkably easy to create endless numbers of clones and droids as well as huge starships and planetary-scale cities), imaginary FTL which can be fitted in dinky little one-man vessels as well as big ships, and planets with completely homogenous cultures and ecologies. "oh, but of course, as we all know, once technology hits a certain pinnacle, very little will change except aesthetics" is the Star Wars fan version of "Captain, we've recalibrated the sensors to emit handwavium particles to induce singularity formation in a dilthium matrix!"

The explanation is that they decided that players want to play Star Wars and Jedi dammit, but the main storyline of the films doesn't allow for a galaxy full of Sith and Jedi beating on each other. So Star Wars and Jedi it is, just "an even longer time ago in a galaxy far far away". Don't try to ennoble a simple intellectual-property driven decision with imaginary sociopolitical theory.

Yeah, no fucking shit. Show us on the rapedoll where nerd science-fiction rationalizations touched you. We all already know it's all bullshit, which is why we're doing it in a Star Wars videogame thread, citing other Star Wars videogame threads - all on a videogame message board. Don't worry though, if you're fast enough I think you can catch a thread in /co and let everyone know that My Little Ponies could never really shapeshift in to a bunch of hot bisexual girls. And you people seriously wonder why I don't always leave being a dick at the door of Politics? Seriously?

[Merusk]

Wait.. what's this about hot bisexuals?

[Khaldun]

I love people who act like there can be an authoritative social science position on the real nature of the longue duree of change in a fantasy galaxy that has a mystical Force pervading all life forms, completely fake if not as fake as Star Trek economics (e.g., it seems remarkably easy to create endless numbers of clones and droids as well as huge starships and planetary-scale cities), imaginary FTL which can be fitted in dinky little one-man vessels as well as big ships, and planets with completely homogenous cultures and ecologies. "oh, but of course, as we all know, once technology hits a certain pinnacle, very little will change except aesthetics" is the Star Wars fan version of "Captain, we've recalibrated the sensors to emit handwavium particles to induce singularity formation in a dilthium matrix!"

The explanation is that they decided that players want to play Star Wars and Jedi dammit, but the main storyline of the films doesn't allow for a galaxy full of Sith and Jedi beating on each other. So Star Wars and Jedi it is, just "an even longer time ago in a galaxy far far away". Don't try to ennoble a simple intellectual-property driven decision with imaginary sociopolitical theory.

Yeah, no fucking shit. Show us on the rapedoll where nerd science-fiction rationalizations touched you. We all already know it's all bullshit, which is why we're doing it in a Star Wars videogame thread, citing other Star Wars videogame threads - all on a videogame message board. Don't worry though, if you're fast enough I think you can catch a thread in /co and let everyone know that My Little Ponies could never really shapeshift in to a bunch of hot bisexual girls. And you people seriously wonder why I don't always leave being a dick at the door of Politics? Seriously?

No, I don't wonder. I just figured it's because you're actually a dick.

[Nevermore]

As a someone that plays a scientist for a living, I can say that I turn my brain off the moment I play this game.  The thought of having to lead a target with a laser in the vacuum of space would otherwise make me a very crabby person. 

I find it more amusing that laser cannons have recoil.

Actually, it makes a whole lot more sense if all those 'lasers' actually shoot something like superheated plasma moving substantially slower than the speed of light.  Just assume 'laser' doesn't mean the same thing in that universe.

[Fordel]

That's pretty much what they are shooting yes.

[Ingmar]

Do they actually even call them lasers? I guess there are 'turbolasers'.

[Mrbloodworth]

Do they actually even call them lasers?

Nope.

A blaster (also addressed as a gun) is a ranged weapon that fires bursts of particle beam energy called blaster bolts from a replaceable power pack. The most commonly used weapon in the galaxy, blasters' intense beams consisting of compacted high-energy particles and intense light can kill or paralyze their target, depending on their setting. Blasters range from compact pistols, all the way up to large, heavy rifles and starship-mounted blaster cannons.

A particle beam is a stream of charged or neutral particles, in many cases moving at near the speed of light.

[Mattemeo]

Thank god I didn't have to come in here and start beating people about the head with the BLASTERS NOT LASERS stick.

[Nebu]

I was just being sarcastic...

I enjoy the fact that I know nothing about Star Wars, Star Trek, Star Raiders, Star 80, or any other Star ___ you want to explain tech to me from. 

[Ingmar]

I think the only tech involved in Star 80 was silicone-related.

[Merusk]

Only in a geek fight..

[Venkman]

I'll take Han Solo-shaped carbonite man over the Yuuzhan Vong or whatever the fuck they were called any day.

Oh, no question. I agreed simply because I got the same feeling that some of their callbacks worked and some kinda fell flat. But I managed to resist nerdraging and throwing my monitor out the window.

Wait a sec. Were the Yuuzhan Vong in SWTOR?! Or were you just ranting about the EU book series about them? I need to gauge my level of nerdrage on this one. There's a scale.

[Simond]

Wait.. what's this about hot bisexuals?

You want the Mass Effect thread. George Lucas says everyone is 100% straight in Star Wars.  

[Tannhauser]

This thread delivers.

[Thrawn]

Wait a sec. Were the Yuuzhan Vong in SWTOR?! Or were you just ranting about the EU book series about them? I need to gauge my level of nerdrage on this one. There's a scale.

I never heard of any yet, but we could probably start a betting pool on how many expansions it takes before they come up.  They were mentioned in KOTOR I guess.