Little Peeves

[Furiously]

If you aren't doing 4 man dugeons in a guild group you're honestly missing out on a lot of what makes the game fun, imo.

Cause F13 is known for it's raiding....

[Phred]

Hey has anyone talked yet about HOW SHITTY PVP IS for the love of all that is holy

Can anyone name a Diku where the pvp didnt suck?

[Rasix]

<Preemptive dismissal> And DAOC doesn't count. 

[Nevermore]

No, the PvP sucked in DAoC too.  It was just the RvR that people liked.

[Fabricated]

So I did my first raid tonight.

-The Pylon boss either takes literally 2 minutes to beat, or it bugs out and you get wiped out by a horde of gigantic bugs.
-We had several bug-related wipes and then 3 wipes under 5% and had to quit. Bugs noticed:
*If Soa mindtraps the main tank and someone doesn't immediately pick him up, he vanishes and you have to reset.
*If Soa force throws someone (it's a big involved animation where he slams your character all over the room) right when he phase transitions, they get bugged out and stuck.
*Sometimes, the platforms you need to not die in Phase transitions just don't show up!
*Sometimes Soa just resets during Phase 3, because he feels like it.

Yeesh, and this is after a handful of patches.

[eldaec]

Hey has anyone talked yet about HOW SHITTY PVP IS for the love of all that is holy

Can anyone name a Diku where the pvp didnt suck?

Guild Wars and DAoC.

Key thing being that they were both designed and marketed around a central pvp endgame.

SWToR clearly isn't and doesn't seem any more likely to become a pvp game than CoX was when they introduced it as a sideline.

[kildorn]

DAOC pvp was pretty terrible. There's just a lot of rose colored glasses because for the time, everyone else sucked more. But uh, that interrupt system. D:

Does Guild Wars actually qualify as a diku, though? Are we just using diku as meaning "uses statistics to determine hit/miss/damage"?

[Fordel]

Well that was one thing DaoC and GuildWars had in common, stat caps. Something that I don't ever see happening ( no matter how much I want it too) in a PvE MMO.

[caladein]

LotRO at least had them through Mirkwood.  Not sure about now.

As for Soa bugs, we ran into those exact issues a few weeks ago, but nothing like that recently.

[Modern Angel]

LOTRO just removed the caps as of RoI.

[Nebu]

Can anyone name a Diku where the pvp didnt suck?

First 11 levels of WAR were the most fun I've had in an MMO.  It's up there with DAoC in my rose-colored memories handbook. 

[Malakili]

Can anyone name a Diku where the pvp didnt suck?

First 11 levels of WAR were the most fun I've had in an MMO.  It's up there with DAoC in my rose-colored memories handbook. 

Yeah, WAR was really good in the beta and in the early levels.  In the beta, even Tier 2 was good because no one gave a shit about leveling up or grinding for loot because it was all getting wiped anyway, so it was none stop epic keep battles.   In tier 1 it was non stop PvP because you could just run there as soon as you started a character and have at it.

Too bad it didn't carry over to live.

[Dren]

This is a little peeve that will turn worse very fast.  I keep getting kicked out during heavy usage times on the weekends.  I keep quitting and starting again.  After like 3 times it asks me a security question.  I've done this before with no issue.  This time, it is a question I don't remember setting, nor have an answer for.  So I figure I'll just fail it and it will ask me one of the other questions like any other security software.  Nope.  It asks me the same question over and over.

So, now I'm locked out and the only way to get back in now is to go through their service department.  This is a new one on me and I've been playing these stupid MMO's since '96.   I get that they want to protect accounts, but they are putting me out of playing a game I pay for as a sacrifice.

[Merusk]

I've never gotten the security question on login no matter how many times in-n-out in a few mins.  Then again I've got an authenticator so maybe that removes that little 'feature?'

[eldaec]

Pretty sure you only get a question if your IP changes.

[kildorn]

Pretty sure you only get a question if your IP changes.

Maybe if it changes outside your normal class, but I've never gotten a prompt with a dynamic address (also using an authenticator, though)

[01101010]

I get this security question thing every time. Mine is due to my security key having been reset - which I still can not recert onto my phone. But yeah... I had a hell of a time with one of my question. I was sure it was one answer but turned out to be something else entirely. I got lucky.

[Dren]

Yeah, security comes up with IP change.  I power cycle my DSL modem when I run into issues like this.  Last time it asked me a question I remembered.  This time not so much.  It is 10:23 p.m. EST and I'm still waiting on the phone.  They responded by email that the only way to resolve this is by calling them.

So......absolutely do not get your security question wrong!  You get 3 shots and then you are out and out hard!

All this is due to connectivity issues that I never have with any other MMO or online software of any kind.

*Edit*  This is absolutely the worst "on hold" music I've ever heard.  It's some of the ingame music but all garbled and cutting out.  Really stinks of subpar quality overall.

[Threash]

Game locking up every time i quit is going from little peeve to mayor fucking annoyance really quick.

[Dren]

Ok, now I'm back in after failing a second time while the guy was on the phone.  I know now that I was stupid for making the answer so complicated and long (including capitals.)  Honestly, I never thought I'd need it in such an everyday kind of way or what the consequences would be for not knowing it exactly.  Damn, I'm changing that one right quick.

[Evildrider]

Game locking up every time i quit is going from little peeve to mayor fucking annoyance really quick.

Ctrl alt del, then end process on SWTOR.  Best way to close game.

[apocrypha]

Game locking up every time i quit is going from little peeve to mayor fucking annoyance really quick.

I'm getting this on one of my PCs about 80% of the time and never on the other PC. The only things different between the 2 PCs are graphics and sound cards.

Locking up PC = GTX260 / Asus Xonar D2X
Non-locking PC = GTX560Ti / onboard Realtek

[Miasma]

I know they've had problems with xonar before, I had to turn something off to even get sound to work, the gx dsp mode.  Whatever that is.

[ajax34i]

I think it depends on how much video ram you have on the card.  Nvidia GTX 460 with 1 GB = locks up, GTX 560 TI with 2 GB = no lock up.  Or it could depend on the operating system:  XP = lockup, Win7 = no lock up.

In any case, what seems to be happening when it locks up on my system is it's generating page faults.  It will actually close on its own, just takes over 1 minute.  Killing the swtor.exe processes turns it off immediately (and stops the hard drive from thrashing).  There is a huge difference between logging off in your ship vs. logging off on a planet (esp. a very populated one); in your ship it only takes a few seconds (rather than the full minute).

[PalmTrees]

I like to sort my crafting list by level and keep the groups collapsed rather than expanded. But every time I zone the damn game resets my lists to expanded and sorted by difficulty.

[Minvaren]

Yeah, that one tweaks me too.   

[tmp]

Growing to dislike how the companions you acquire early get way less relationship points per dialogue choice than the latter ones.

It makes sense in theory (the companions you acquire early are with you for much longer period so have more time to grow that relationship bar) ... until you actually play the game and realize you're only going to have one companion out per each dialogue choice. Meaning unless you stick with the old companion and ignore the new ones for many many levels, the first guys you get wind up effectively with far lower relationship score than the ones you acquire later. Because while you spent similar amount of time/levels with each, the latter ones gained 4-5x as many points from similar amount of decisions made in their presence, than the early ones 

Or to put it differently -- my consular's last companion has ~2x the affection level of Qyzen even though they both enthusiastically approved pretty much all she did, and Qyzen was in action for twice as many levels...

Perhaps they expect people to continually swamp the companions with gifts, dunno.

[Ingmar]

That's what I do. When I'm leveling my mission skill I usually just get gifts, there's almost no call for the lower level blue mats.

[01101010]

Equipping my companions, especially when you get a piece that is <name of pet> only. That shit should auto drop into your pet's avatar page rather than having me open the character screen and click over to the tab. Annoying.

[Sjofn]

That's been getting on my nerves too! Twins!

[apocrypha]

Yup, right-click on a companion specific item should just equip the damn thing on them, even if they're not currently summoned.

Also when sending mails why does it revert back to the inbox every time? I'm sending things out to multiple characters and I have to click on the "Compose" tab inbetween every single mail. Stupid.

[Khaldun]

Bowdaar is really weird in XP terms--I can essentially suck his wookie dick in a conversation and make the right response to everything, and I will still only get 5XP for the conversation and small-ish reputation gains with him compared to everyone but Corso. Corso I get because you have all of Taris to gain rep with him, no one else in sight.

[Nebu]

New peeve: I leveled another alt to 10 in the last few days.  Bioware saw fit to send me 10 copies of the: Tips on leveling after level 10 email. 

I appreciate the effort... but 10 copies?  Really? 

[01101010]

Bowdaar is really weird in XP terms--I can essentially suck his wookie dick in a conversation and make the right response to everything, and I will still only get 5XP for the conversation and small-ish reputation gains with him compared to everyone but Corso. Corso I get because you have all of Taris to gain rep with him, no one else in sight.

This is primarily why I skipped Taris at first and grabbed the fur ball, then went back. Of course, that means you don't get shit for rep with the wookie because the questlines were written in companion order.  

This also impacts running BT or Ess for rep. Works great for rep farming your first companion, does nothing for any of the other companions.

[Der Helm]

Not really a little peeve

but



travel times and quests that send you across the galaxy and makes you travel across multiple zones just for a single conversation.
USE THE FREAKIN HOLOS.

This bullshit is going to make me quit the game sooner or later. Probably sooner.