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Mattemeo
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I would kill for a Whedon helmed "Runaways" show.
This. Brian K. Vaughn and ABC are pretty tight; it'd be a fantastic combination - both Runaways writers (Vaughn himself said that Whedon's short stint on Runaways contained stuff he'd never even dreamed of) and a channel that probably won't fuck Whedon around. Plus the best place to start serialising Marvel's wider universe and the opportunity to find some next generation acting talent. |
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Tannhauser
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An Avengers TV show is pretty great actually. I know they will have a TV budget, but you can still do a lot with some Not Ready For Prime Time Avengers. Like Matt said, would be a great way to expand the Marvel Movieverse and you might even be able to get a movie Avenger to guest star.
Or the Shield idea would be pretty good, you'd follow the agents and the Avengers show up as backup. I'm thinking of Kurt Busiek with Astro City style.
I've dug out my old Avengers comics, time to do some reading!
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Riggswolfe
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I don't know if he can pull it off, since it's not his usual style, but in my opinion the Avengers show really needs to be all about Shield. Heck, have it be "Monster of the week" where they go to a) recruit new Avengers or b) stop some threat that isn't a big enough deal for the Avengers but is still a danger.
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HaemishM
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The good thing about Whedon doing a show for "Not-Fox" is that after the ginormous success of Avengers, the network WILL NOT FUCK WITH HIM. He can probably do just about anything he wants to do since Disney owns ABC and does not want to lose their golden boy from the movie studio side.
Adam Baldwin would have made a great Nick Fury, IMO, but that ship has sailed. He'd be a good Hercules or Wonder Man, a good War Machine or US Agent, or even Ares if they go with the later Avengers lineups.
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Lantyssa
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I don't know if he can pull it off, since it's not his usual style, but in my opinion the Avengers show really needs to be all about Shield. Heck, have it be "Monster of the week" where they go to a) recruit new Avengers or b) stop some threat that isn't a big enough deal for the Avengers but is still a danger.
I think he can. His super hero stuff is great. Loved his run on X-Men. |
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Riggswolfe
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I don't know if he can pull it off, since it's not his usual style, but in my opinion the Avengers show really needs to be all about Shield. Heck, have it be "Monster of the week" where they go to a) recruit new Avengers or b) stop some threat that isn't a big enough deal for the Avengers but is still a danger.
I think he can. His super hero stuff is great. Loved his run on X-Men. I agree. But to my mind a Shield series would be closer to something like Alias than his normal stuff. |
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sickrubik
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I worry about a Whedon "Shield" series. The last time he involved a "secret government agency" that is involved with weird stuff... it was one of the weakest seasons of Buffy.
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I worry about a Whedon "Shield" series. The last time he involved a "secret government agency" that is involved with weird stuff... it was one of the weakest seasons of Buffy.
I think that had more to do with trying to transition from "Dawson's Creek with Vampires" to the "X-Files as Supernatural Soap Opera" of seasons 5-7. And I'm not sure how much control he had of the writing staff at that point (I seem to recall scuttlebutt to the effect that the poor showing in Season 4 was why he got more control later). --Dave |
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Khaldun
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I really hope they go with Damage Control instead. It could work beautifully.
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Merusk
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And here I was thinking sickrubik was making a joke about Dollhouse. (No, I don't like Buffy)
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sickrubik
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And here I was thinking sickrubik was making a joke about Dollhouse. (No, I don't like Buffy)
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Nebu
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Bought this and watched it on Saturday night. I was bored. I collected early Avengers comics in the silver age and this movie didn't live up to any of it. I think the individual movies (Thor, Iron Man I & II, Captain America) were all better.
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Bought this and watched it on Saturday night. I was bored. I collected early Avengers comics in the silver age and this movie didn't live up to any of it. I think the individual movies (Thor, Iron Man I & II, Captain America) were all better.
I hated Thor. Captain America was ok, the 2 Hulks were ok, and I loved both IMs. I loved the Avengers. I did miss the origin story stuff, but the interactions with all the different heroes made up for it. It had several funny moments that really made it shine too, at least for me. I liked Ruffalo as BB too. Strange, since I vastly prefer Ed Norton in pretty much anything else. |
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Nebu
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Yep. I could have written that. I need to check their other trailers! |
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rk47
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I don't know if he can pull it off, since it's not his usual style, but in my opinion the Avengers show really needs to be all about Shield. Heck, have it be "Monster of the week" where they go to a) recruit new Avengers or b) stop some threat that isn't a big enough deal for the Avengers but is still a danger.
I think he can. His super hero stuff is great. Loved his run on X-Men. Yes agreed on Shield focus. I actually like the part when the Avengers start doubting Shield motives. Otherwise the rest of the movie is meh. It was 'AWESOME' after 'AWESOME' moments for each character - like a montage of sorts. They could just play AMERICA FUCK YEAH to replace the epic scores and it wouldn't be out of place. |
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Ironwood
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Hutch
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Yes agreed on Shield focus. I actually like the part when the Avengers start doubting Shield motives. Otherwise the rest of the movie is meh. It was 'AWESOME' after 'AWESOME' moments for each character - like a montage of sorts.
Now that I've had a chance to watch and think about this some more, that scene (Banner, Stark, and Cap in the lab) is one of my favorite scenes in the movie. Stark and Banner both have their suspicions, and while Steve Rogers isn't in their league, he's also no dummy. Once the seed is planted, he goes off and does his own investigation of "Phase 2". That scene (prior to Rogers' exit) also had a minimum of Whedon-dreck in the dialogue. It's an important scene, since it sets things up for later, and you can tell that they worked till they got it right. |
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Raguel
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If you don't like Captain America, you're a bad person and you should feel bad. I know this movie has been discussed to death, but after re-watching it I think people are looking at the Hulk wrong. It's not that his control at the end needed to be explained, but his loss of control on the carrier that does (and I think was, but whatevs). For most of the movie he's Banner and he has Hulk on lockdown, even though IMO there's a lot of edge to him (most notably with Natasha in India, and again on the carrier). The aberration is this version of Banner losing control like that (due to injury or Loki's staff; my money is the staff since he grabbed it unconsciously) |
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Lantyssa
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I'm pretty sure the staff was influencing all of them. That was part of Loki's plan.
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Evildrider
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The staff had the mind gem.
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sickrubik
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And also covered earlier in the discussion too.
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eldaec
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It was still a really bad plan.
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UnSub
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The narrative of "The Avengers" was pretty bad. It was a film that prospered by ignoring making sense and focusing on the Rule of Cool.
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Ratman_tf
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The narrative of "The Avengers" was pretty bad. It was a film that prospered by ignoring making sense and focusing on the Rule of Cool.
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