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Mattemeo
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I actually like they gave the hulk body hair.
It's a great touch that gives him a deal more texture, character and presence. He feels so much more real than the previous 2 attempts, because he's not just green and strangely shiny. Or being drenched in babyoil (that bizarre rain scene in LeTerrier's Incredible Hulk). That he recognizably looks like Rufalo is massively important in getting us on his side, too. Neither Norton nor Bana's Hulks looked remotely like their human counterparts, they were just big green CG monsters. Rufalo's Hulk is still Rufalo.
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CmdrSlack
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This thread needs more "Hulk . . . smash."
Well played, sir. Repost your avatar as my gif response.
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SurfD
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In defence of Sams point, even Starks fucking DAD used robotic arms when he was playing with the tesseract.
See; Captain America: The First Avenger.
We're talking about Tony Stark and Bruce Banner - both shown in previous movies to have a general "fuck it, I'll just test this on myself" attitude. Just caught the leadup scene to that, and it pretty much answers itself: CAP: We could start by checking out Loki's staff, it seems to be powered by the cube. FURY: Blah blah, good idea, see if you can find out how Loki used it to turn some of my peeps into his personal flying monkeys. THOR: Monkies? CAP: Hey, a pop culture reference I get! STARK to BANNER: Sounds like fun. Shall we play, doc? [Stark and Banner exit stage left] That was pretty much Stark's line verbatim.
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Samwise
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Did we see them doing anything with the staff toward that end after that? I'm remembering that scene now but the dots aren't connecting with anything that happened later. I'll probably see it again myself at some point...
So Loki's plan wasn't so much to get captured HIMSELF as to get them to study the staff because he knew they'd fuck it up and fall under its spell and also let it send out a homing signal for Hawkeye to trace... and he knew that would work because he was using the Dark Side to cloud everyone's minds.
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sickrubik
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There is no "dark side" stuff other than some of his basic powers stuff and the staff being the problem for them (and specifically the gem).
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« Last Edit: May 11, 2012, 10:07:49 AM by sickrubik »
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Ironwood
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I can fish you out...
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sickrubik
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Yes. Yes. Okay, I'm stopping.
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VainEldritch
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Became my movie of the year when Loki called Black Widow a "Mewling quim". I was the only one that cheered.
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Simond
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I'm glad that stupid air-aircraft carrier is in the comics, I wasn't aware of that and it annoyed me more than anything else in the movie. (Nextwave is still the best comic Marvel have done in a decade or more).
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"You're really a good person, aren't you? So, there's no path for you to take here. Go home. This isn't a place for someone like you."
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Pezzle
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The movie was ok, but not great. I agree with others that the Helicarrier stuff was dumb. There is something that bothers me more than that. Starkman. Starkman is powerful enough to stand against Thor, super smart about everything, hacks SHIELD, stops the missle, gets the self sacrifice shot, saves the helicarrier, gets the bore through enemy shot AND delivers the speech to Loki. That last one was simply terrible. ANY OTHER CHARACTER would have been a better choice. Cap/Hawkeye/Widow could have talked about the human spirit. Thor could have said there was more to humans than Loki was willing to admit. Samuel L Jackson could have yelled get the fuck off my planet. Hell, even the HULK could have said you should not make us angry! (and then punched him). Instead, we got Starkman delivering 'clever' dialogue in a method that is so idiotic it is normally reserved for super villain gloat speeches.
I am not a huge fan of the direction the Iron Man movies took the character but they were ok themselves. In Avengers you have Starkman outdoing and overshadowing other characters, crowding out their reason for existing. We need about 50-60% less Starkman and maybe we can get to know other characters better (like widow, hawkeye or the new hulk). With the direction this movie was heading Starkman did not need any of the others at all, just have a bunch of armor suits run around and do the rest of the work.
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Lakov_Sanite
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Agent Coulson gave Loki the good guy speech(brief though it was), not Stark.
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SurfD
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I am not a huge fan of the direction the Iron Man movies took the character but they were ok themselves. In Avengers you have Starkman outdoing and overshadowing other characters, crowding out their reason for existing. We need about 50-60% less Starkman and maybe we can get to know other characters better (like widow, hawkeye or the new hulk). With the direction this movie was heading Starkman did not need any of the others at all, just have a bunch of armor suits run around and do the rest of the work. From what I recall of my last foray into marvel comics (Back during the Civil War arcs), this was pretty much the way the comics had been taking Stark for quite a while. The guy was becoming a rediculously OP Techno-sue, who's technology allowed him to come up with an answer to damn near every single problem the marvel universe could throw at him with only a little bit of thinly veiled plot handwaving. I mean, at one point they had contrived to have him neutralize Spiderman by getting Parker on his side, having parker wear a Stark Brand spidy suit, and then later revealing that the suit had been analyzing Parker and now Stark knew everything about his capabilities, right down to how his Spidy Sense worked and how to neutralize it.... Stark is sort of like a hybrid of Batman / Superman for the marvel universe. If he ever goes off the deep end, pretty much nothing short of every hero on the planet ganging up on him is going to stop him.
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Pezzle
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Agent Coulson gave Loki the good guy speech(brief though it was), not Stark.
I am referring to the speech just before invasion where Stark takes off his armor to 'threaten' Loki.
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SurfD
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Agent Coulson gave Loki the good guy speech(brief though it was), not Stark.
I am referring to the speech just before invasion where Stark takes off his armor to 'threaten' Loki. Which is pretty much a textbook example of how Stark would usually act in the comics, so I don't really think most people were overly concerned. I mean, Stark doing the whole "spirit of humanity" speach or whatnot at that time would pretty much have ended with Loki laughing in his face anyway, as per his comment "are you going to appeal to my humanity" at the beginning of that scene, since it would have been tantamount to the same thing in Loki's eyes.
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Abagadro
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He was stalling so the mark vii would be completed.
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Ironwood
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Yeah, it was sure handy he designed a suit of armor that saved him specifically from being thrown through windows just as Loki decided to throw him through a window ! I was worried on that one !!
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Tannhauser
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I did a bit of an eyeroll at that myself but hey. As for IM taking over the movie, just imagine Batman's role in a JLA movie. Even Superman would be fetching the bat-slippers.
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Trippy
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Yeah, it was sure handy he designed a suit of armor that saved him specifically from being thrown through windows just as Loki decided to throw him through a window ! I was worried on that one !! That's what the bracelets were for.
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Ironwood
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Er, yeah. I know. 'Cause it was obvious the way the lasers locked onto them and then swaddled him in the suit.
But it was just yet another 'How can we make a cool way to get Iron Man into the suit' after all the other ones we've had. Hell, you just know they're creaming their jeans at putting him in the armor that pops out of his bones. That'll get the punters hard.
It was a lame way to introduce the suit, that's all. 'This is the Mark 8. It saves me from falling death. OOoops, I tripped.'
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Lakov_Sanite
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Much lamer would be if he just had nanomachines in his bones that came out of him to make the suit......
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HaemishM
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Lakov_Sanite
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It's thor's version of teabagging.
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RhyssaFireheart
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That's ingenious and truly hilarious at the same time.
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Minvaren
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Ratman_tf
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Oh my!
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Surlyboi
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Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something. We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Ironwood
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Hutch
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Plant yourself like a tree Haven't you noticed? We've been sharing our culture with you all morning. The sun will shine on us again, brother
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Ironwood
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Eddie. He lived under the sink.
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HaemishM
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Joss Whedon to Direct Avengers sequel and develop TV show for ABCWelp, there you go. Of course we get a sequel and Whedon is directing it (because after over $1 billion are you really going to NOT hand him a blank check?). He's also doing an Avengers related TV show that won't be the same characters, but may be a SHIELD show concerned with supers in some way. I'm down.
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sickrubik
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I would kill for a Whedon helmed "Runaways" show.
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Evildrider
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So I wonder how many of the Whedonverse actors will get put on that Avengers show. I'd like to see Adam Baldwin at least get a role.
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Tannhauser
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Morena Baccarin=Scarlet Witch Sarah Michelle Gellar-Ms. Marvel James Caviezel=Vision Summer "Showkiller" Glau=Moondragon Adam Baldwin=Dum Dum Dugan?
Book it. Done.
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Merusk
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Pretty sure Caviezel's quite happy being on his #1 timeslot drama right now.
SMG doesn't have the.. assets to be Ms Marvel. ;) (And at 34 is "too old" in today's Hollowood.)
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