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Bungee
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My prediction, the NFC west will continue to be a never-ending embarrassment to the sport of football.
And yet 3 of the 4 teams have been to a Super Bowl more recently than your beloved Cowboys (49ers missed it by a year). Rams are going to be a lot better, and if SF and Arizona unfuck their QB situations they will also be better. Seattle is another, more depressing story. Although rah rah Carroll may surprise me. Funny, because the Cowboys play in a division with two double digit win teams. Just like the North and the South that had 2 and 3 double digit win teams. When's the last time that happened in the NFC West? Oh that's right, 2003. That division has been total ass since they realigned in 2002 and created it as a joke for football fans. Oh and all those West teams lost the Super Bowl. Who cares if they "made it", even the Falcons managed to pull that off one year. What about the Bills, they "made it" too! Those "made it" teams did win when it counted though. Like, win in the playoffs (except for the big dance...). When's the last time a Cowboys team managed that?
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Paelos
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Jan. 9th, 2010. Cowboys 34 - Eagles 14. NFC Divisional Playoff game.
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Paelos
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Wake me if the Seachickens win 8 games this year.
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Wake me if the Seachickens win 8 games this year.
Why? They only need 7.
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HaemishM
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Kolb to the CardinalsKolb gets another 5-year contract extension worth $63 million ($22 million guaranteed). Eagles get Rodgers-Cromartie and a 2nd round pick. Look, I think Kolb is good, but he's not worth as much money and/or talent as has already been spent on him. He hasn't done anywhere near enough to justify all that. It shows just how important the QB position is these days though, when a guy with potential and less than 6 starts who wasn't even a first-round pick gets all this spending going. It does make the Cards better, of course, but I think I could complete more passes than Derek Anderson did last year. So we have two good QB's in that division (Kolb, Bradford), two really bad or untested ones (Tavaris Jackson and Whitehurst) and one mediocre first round washout (Alex Smith). And Arizona's defense got worse - their passing D was 10th in the league in yards/game last year and unless they sign Namdi (which will be crazy expensive), I don't see it getting any better. Also, Kevin? Might want to get used to the taste of those new Astroturf pebbles, because you are going to be eating them A LOT this year.
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I had already gone on record stating that Kolb is going to be a huge bust. Now with this new contract it is almost guaranteed.
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HaemishM
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Also, Reggie Bush traded to Miami. That to me is a WTF, Saints? Yes, he's never going to be a 1,000 yard rusher, and he's fragile as an ice sculpture at a space heater convention. But he does some really amazing things on the field in terms of making the other team gameplan around him. Guess they just got tired of relying on him.
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Paelos
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Cards probably win the division with the Kolb move. He can make them an 8-8 team.
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Glad to see the Titans release VY. I've never liked that guy. He's a punk and a very sketchy NFL QB.
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01101010
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Also, Reggie Bush traded to Miami. That to me is a WTF, Saints? Yes, he's never going to be a 1,000 yard rusher, and he's fragile as an ice sculpture at a space heater convention. But he does some really amazing things on the field in terms of making the other team gameplan around him. Guess they just got tired of relying on him.
Really surprised there wasn't a push for him by the Seahawks... really thought Carroll would try to get the band back together again. And I love what the Browns are doing to address the gaping hole at both WR and DE... nothing. Nothing says we are only going to try and work out the kinks this year rather than win than the Browns...every year since 99.
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Bush is already a year or two past the average NFL running back lifespan, with no particular indication that he's going to be a resilient guy injury-wise (in fact he hasn't played all 16 games since his rookie year, and is coming off a season where he only got into 8 games at all), so I think there's a very good chance he won't be worth whatever he ends up getting paid from here on out.
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Miami has a history for signing terrible RBs lately. Plus, their current RB depth chart includes two rooks from Arizona and K State. They need some kind of vet at that position or they might as well just put a giant red target on Chad Henne.
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Really surprised there wasn't a push for him by the Seahawks... really thought Carroll would try to get the band back together again. Seahawks already have enough undersized RBs with Forsett and Leon Washington, thanks.
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Glad to see the Titans release VY. I've never liked that guy. He's a punk and a very sketchy NFL QB.
VY had some amazing games, but...man. He just couldn't keep his head together. Maybe if he gets hungry and humble someone can still get some mileage out of him. But currently he's a head case. Meanwhile, the Lions have signed three of their four draftees. Very interested in how Titus Young does; it wouldn't be a Detroit draft without a WR pick! Oh and a special "HA HA" to the Cowboys for trading for Roy Williams.
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Also, Reggie Bush traded to Miami. That to me is a WTF, Saints? Yes, he's never going to be a 1,000 yard rusher, and he's fragile as an ice sculpture at a space heater convention. But he does some really amazing things on the field in terms of making the other team gameplan around him. Guess they just got tired of relying on him.
Maybe the stack of injuries has reduced him to non-star quality. Granted, he hasn't put up superstar numbers, but still, he's been an offensive force, a player that a defense had to be aware of, and mandated defensive adjustments. But injuries (and age, though Bush is in his prime still, age 26) have a way of siphoning athleticism and effectiveness…
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Haynesworth and Ochocinco to the Pats. Saw Belichick called 'The Douchebag Whisperer' on Twitter
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Haynesworth and Ochocinco to the Pats. Saw Belichick called 'The Douchebag Whisperer' on Twitter They can make something out of Chad. I'm pretty sure nobody can turn Haynesworth into a productive member of society.
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HaemishM
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No, but Belichick can certain get some defensive production out of the fatass.
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No, but Belichick can certain get some defensive production out of the fatass.
Fuck, Belichick is going to win the goddamned championship with all these idiots.
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Bungee
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Jan. 9th, 2010. Cowboys 34 - Eagles 14. NFC Divisional Playoff game.
Who would've thought...
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Paelos
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No, but Belichick can certain get some defensive production out of the fatass.
Fuck, Belichick is going to win the goddamned championship with all these idiots. I think the Colts, Steelers, and Jets have something to say about that...
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No, but Belichick can certain get some defensive production out of the fatass.
Fuck, Belichick is going to win the goddamned championship with all these idiots. I think the Colts, Steelers, and Jets have something to say about that... I wouldn't back any of those teams right now... too many issues with each. Jets are probably the strongest right now of the three - I'd venture a guess as to not sleep on KC this year.
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Pats and Packers are the frontrunner favorites to get to the Super Bowl this year, barring injuries. Colts and Eagles are next. After that, I'd say it's tied amongst the Jets, Ravens, Falcons, Saints, and Steelers.
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Bigger updates for the Bears would be: -Trading Olsen to the Panthers for a 3rd round pick. I'm not a fan of trading away Olsen at all. He is someone I think needs to be used to his potential when possible. Also, trading him to a team that already has a solid starting TE in Schockey just sucks for Olsen imo.
-They also picked up Roy Williams. After Dallas' experiences with him I'd say that's no good, but then remembering his best years were under Martz this may not be so bad
- Daniel Manning is now on the Texans (who also picked up Johnathan Joseph and are quickly sealing up their weak secondary).
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HaemishM
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The Olson trade is retarded, but you know, Mike Martz. He doesn't know how to use a pass-catching TE. I can't fault the logic of a Pats/Pack Super Bowl. The Colts have serious depth issues, I'm not sold on Michael Vick repeating last year's performance with the Eagles, the Ravens seriously need a deep threat and they lost Stallworth, the Saints running game is injury-prone. The Falcons and Steelers may be the best bets to challenge the Pats/Pack matchup.
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Roy Williams sucks. Good luck Bears!
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Who gets Namdi is so much more interesting then these not so great QB's shuffling around. If Caron Palmer ends up somewhere it could have playoff implications ( even outside of the NFC west) though I'd put money on him continuing to choke terribly. .
Late to the party but Palmer is going nowhere but retirement. Mike Brown hath spoken. Palmer is costing him money so he stays with the Bungles or takes retirement. Brown is an utter cock when you cost him his precious lucre, because that is all he cares about. He'll spend money to keep his team just enough on the competitive edge that seats will remain filled but only that far. Anything beyond that is sheer luck. Haynesworth and Ochocinco to the Pats. Saw Belichick called 'The Douchebag Whisperer' on Twitter They can make something out of Chad. I'm pretty sure nobody can turn Haynesworth into a productive member of society. Chad's biggest problem is he was never leashed. Once he realized all that mattered was getting people in the seats to see him, he stopped trying. He was the biggest poison pill on the Bengals. Lots of people locally want to blame him, but I note that the other loudmouths who have been traded or went free-agent over the years have been kept quiet by the teams they went to.
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I've never hoped any owner got struck by lightning as much as Mike Brown. The NFL would be a better place if he and Davis went of a cliff in the same limo.
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I've never hoped any owner got struck by lightning as much as Mike Brown. The NFL would be a better place if he and Davis went of a cliff in the same limo.
And landed on Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder.
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Jerry's a shitheel, but he will spend money to win.
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HaemishM
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That's part of the problem.
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Malakili
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If the giants resign Plaxico its going to be a major
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As a huge huge Dolphins fan, I gotta say I'm not to keen on the Bush trade/signing, I woulda preferred Sproles or Bradshaw. When you look at the Saints stats, they got more yards, scored more and won more without him. He has a ridiculously high rate of fumbling. Once he is over 10 carries /game is average yards per carry drop dramatically (and it wasn't spectacular to begin with). Same goes for his receptions. Also when you look at the yards he gets after 1st contact and its abysmal. He is not even that good of a PR guy.
I just don't know what he brings that a ton of other back could do just as well.
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