NFL 2011

[Bungee]

I'm not sure they actually save anything though, I could swear the thing I read said his contract was guaranteed?

If claimed off waivers: His next team will have to pay his contract fully.
If he's clearing waivers, Denver will have to pay up for anything guaranteed in his contract.

[Cyrrex]

And I think it was only like 2.5 million for the rest of the year.  Seems a tad foolish to cut him for that kind of money, that's nothing for a QB.

[HaemishM]

It would be hilarious.  But it might also make sense!  Maybe it's just me, but I don't think Kyle Orton is a terrible QB.

I think he's a good QB. He needs a team around him to succeed, but looking at his career numbers, while his completion percentage is under 60%, his TD/INT ratio is respectable. Something like 79/50 or 79/58 or some such. He's really been screwed repeatedly by being in a place that doesn't know how to treat QB's. Chicago is notable for being horrible to QB's and Denver had Josh McDaniels. I think if he played for somebody like Andy Reid or on a team like Green Bay or Detroit that has weapons, he'd be considered a lot better than he has been.

[01101010]

I think he's a good QB. He needs a team around him to succeed, but looking at his career numbers, while his completion percentage is under 60%, his TD/INT ratio is respectable. Something like 79/50 or 79/58 or some such. He's really been screwed repeatedly by being in a place that doesn't know how to treat QB's. Chicago is notable for being horrible to QB's and Denver had Josh McDaniels. I think if he played for somebody like Andy Reid or on a team like Green Bay or Detroit that has weapons, he'd be considered a lot better than he has been.

Miami still looking? 

[HaemishM]

After the way Matt Moore has played, I'm thinking not. 63% comp. pct., 7 TD, 5 INT. Orton's not going to dramatically improve on that, I don't think. Of the places looking for a QB, his best bets for success are Chicago or Houston (which will depend on how Leinart does this weekend) or Kansas City. Arizona might be interested though Kolb's contract might make that restrictive (plus Kolb is not out for the season). He'd be an improvement in Seattle but it's Seattle, Jacksonville has already tanked their season and are seeing what Gabbert has, Indy probably doesn't want to spend the money though he'd probably be a dramatic improvement, Cleveland probably still believes in Colt McCoy. Hell, if I were Shanahan, I'd pick him up in Washington. How funny would it be if he beat out Rex Grossman for the job? He's certainly a better QB.

[Nevermore]

And Kansas City is it!

In other news, Fred Jackson somehow went from having a bruised calf to being out for the rest of the year with a broken leg.   

[Chimpy]

It so sucks being a Packers fan on Thanksgiving and not getting Fox :(

Especially since I do get CBS and get to watch the Leon Lett rematch as I hate the Cowboys and am ambivalent at best to the fish.

[ghost]

Okay, so Ndomakong Suh is a complete badass, but he's also completely fucking nuts.  His actions today are largely inconsequential when it comes to the possibility of injuring someone.  I'm sure anyone in the NFL would choose to have him half heartedly stomp on them than deliver a full speed, full strength tackle, but the fact that he did this shit is just nuts.  He needs to get his head screwed on straight or he's up for a serious suspension.

[HaemishM]

I saw that play. No fucking excuse for it whatsoever and the refs were right to toss his ass. Crushing the guy's helmet into the turf might have been sort of but not really excusable, but the stomp? No, that looked deliberate to me. The goddamn guy is crazy good, but he's got to curb this shit or guys will just start to provoke him during games to see how much they can get him penalized. And the WHEN he did it was the worst part. You stop them on 3 and goal in a game where your offense has moved the ball well and you hand them a free first down on the 1? DUMBASS.

[Cyrrex]

And while I agree completely with everything being said about Suh, the thing I can't help thinking is this:  If you are going to doing something stupid like stomp/kick the guy, at least do it like you mean it.  The stomp he gave would have barely hurt a toddler.  Still a justified expulsion, but you coulda at least got your money worth, fella.  And boy is it going to cost you some money.

[Tannhauser]

As a Lions fan, I'm pissed at Suh for that.  Seriously, dude, you are a professional now.  Act like it.  If the other team is beating you, take your beating like a man.  Or maybe Suh has bought into his own hype.  Does this mean another meeting with the commissioner? "Gosh commish, if I knew that stomping someone's head was FROWNED UPON IN THIS ESTABLISHMENT, I wouldn't have done it."

In actual football news, the Fins gave the Boys all they could handle.  It was a good game and give credit to the Boys for winning games they need to win (looking at you Titans and Ravens).  I'm going to go ahead and give the NFC East to the Cowboys because the Giants are inconsistent.

First total Cowboys game I've seen this year and JESUS CHRIST IT'S DEMARCUS WARE, GET IN THE CAR!
He is amazing.

[Malakili]

The Lions are back to their old tricks, mentally undisciplined football with lots of penalties.  Suh was the one that will get all the press for good reason, but the Lions have been penalty ridden for the last month.   Talent can only get you so far.  I don't know if they need a new coach, or what, but someone has to teach these man children to control themselves.

[Merusk]

Bengals losing to the Browns I see.  Good to know I wasn't wrong about them this year.

[MuffinMan]

Heh, Leinart lasted two quarters.

[Trippy]

Tebow has the Chargers right where he wants them

[caladein]

Missed field goal by the Chargers... please no Tebow Time.

[MuffinMan]

What the hell CBS, I don't want to watch Tebow.

[Chimpy]

What the hell CBS, I don't want to watch Tebow.

I actually wanted to watch 60 minutes 

[Abagadro]

They should have fired Norv last year.

[Chimpy]

They should have fired Norv last year.

They should never have hired him in the first place.

[stu]

Quinn must be a douche because Tebow had a look on his face like For the love of Christ, shut the fuck up, Brady. while they were sitting on the bench.

[DLRiley]

TE-BONE!! 

[Paelos]

Loved it, loved every second of the gnashing of teeth over Tebow. I really hope he makes the playoffs so all the analysts' heads explode.

[Nevermore]

Not to mention Elway's head.  You just know the front office was hoping Tebow would implode so they could draft a QB in the first round next year.

[Johny Cee]

Loved it, loved every second of the gnashing of teeth over Tebow. I really hope he makes the playoffs so all the analysts' heads explode.

In the gushing over QBs as the premier skill position, and the way head coaches have basically been promoted to minor divinities, the fact that QBs have to actually be team leaders gets left out. 

Tebow is pretty mediocre on a good day, but his team certainly believes in him.  Compare that to the Jets... Sanchez is basically second fiddle to the head coach and I'm not sure Vick could lead his team to the showers despite the ridiculous talent level.

Not to mention Elway's head.  You just know the front office was hoping Tebow would implode so they could draft a QB in the first round next year.

Management is laughing all the way to the bank, as people are actually talking about the Broncos.  If they want to draft a QB next year, they'll go ahead and do it.  As soon as defenses figure out Tebow and the fans grumble, they'll have casus belli to pull him.

The novelty of Tebow has turned a shitty/rebuilding year into a year where the Broncos get talked about, pull in eyeballs, and sell merch.

[Hoax]

Loved it, loved every second of the gnashing of teeth over Tebow. I really hope he makes the playoffs so all the analysts' heads explode.

Yes its because you hate analysts... 

[Paelos]

Loved it, loved every second of the gnashing of teeth over Tebow. I really hope he makes the playoffs so all the analysts' heads explode.

Yes its because you hate analysts... 

Don't get me wrong, I love all the god-haters getting all panty-bunched about him too. However, you have to remember that I absolutely couldn't stand the guy, god-squad or not when he was at Florida.

For me it's about watching all the NFL people who can't understand how people can win when they aren't heaving up the ball 40 times a game.

[Trippy]

Shane Lechler of the Raiders had an 80 yard punt He kicked it standing on about the 11 yard line and it hit the ground at about the 5 yard line and rolled into the end zone.

[Abagadro]

You don't have to be a "god-hater" to be annoyed with Tebow's ridiculously ostentatious displays of religiosity.  Hey Tim, God probably doesn't give a fuck who wins a football game.

[Fordel]

My question is, does Tebow need the entire game to charge up his powers, or can the Bronco's find an actual QB for the first 3 quarters and just put Tebow in the fourth? 

[ghost]

The way it's going for them they could probably put in a cardboard cutout for the first three quarters. 

[01101010]

My question is, does Tebow need the entire game to charge up his powers, or can the Bronco's find an actual QB for the first 3 quarters and just put Tebow in the fourth? 

The holy trilogy has to fit in somewhere here.

[Bunk]

Yay! My home team won the cup in that other Football league!

First time the host city's team has won in about 18 years, which is suprising with a league of only 10 teams. You and your silly sub 50 year old championships, that was the 99th Grey Cup.

[sickrubik]

My question is, does Tebow need the entire game to charge up his powers, or can the Bronco's find an actual QB for the first 3 quarters and just put Tebow in the fourth? 

One of the announcers commented this weekend, "Someone should always tell him it's the Fourth Quarter."

[HaemishM]

You know what? The Jets could use Tim Tebow.  Actually, I'm quite serious. He seems to be a better passer than Mark Slang-chez. If Buffalo's defense was even REMOTELY good, they would have won that game yesterday. Sanchez throws 4 TDs but looked like shit all game. The Bills gifted them a TD with that fucked up kick/onside kick. I think the Jets continuing to be in the hunt is more infuriating to me than Denver's Teboning of a really crappy division. And unlike Greene/McKnight, Tebow can actually run the ball so put him in and bench Sanchez.

San Diego is just a bad football team. Rivers can't make up for their dearth of talent and lack of depth at wideout anymore, not with an O line that can't pass block and a run game that could generously be called sparse. Norv Turner should not have been coaching this team this season and I can't understand why he's still coaching them today. You lost to a COLLEGE QB but hey, in that shitty division, you apparently have much company. And let none of the Tebowed forget that he's beaten three really bad teams (Miami, KC and San Diego), beat two middling inconsistent teams (Oakland and the Jets) and lost badly to the only good team they've played since Green Bay week 4. I expect Chicago to do SOMETHING defensively against him in two weeks, and probably still lose because they have Todd Hainie as QB.

Green Bay and San Fran are 1-2 games from clinching their divisions and Green Bay almost certainly has the #1 seed. Tonight's game could likely all but cinch both the NFC East and the NFC South if New Orleans wins, or throw those divisions into complete chaos again.

Houston, oh Houston. You are CURSED. If Leinart is done for the season too, what's left on the trash heap to pick up? Maybe David Carr is out there waiting in the wings. Still, you can hand the rock to Arians Foster 30 times a game and probably win out. None of the 6-5 teams in the AFC thrill me at all, but Cincy has such a tough schedule compared to the others that I think it's possible a 9-7 or 8-8 gets one team into the playoffs.