Iron Man 2

[Ingmar]

Eh around here stadium security is typically NOT armed (at least for baseball and college football) but there are always actual cops around. Armed security guards at... Bay Meadows I'm assuming? is kind of strange. (If I'm misremembering and you're not a Bay Area dude never mind.)

[LK]

If we want to go into full geek detail, just how many security guards would there be at an F-1 race? Also would they even 'have' guns?

Enough where if shit went down, such as a rogue mechanic obliterating shit on a crowded race track and putting at risk a BILLIONAIRE in a hostile global climate, the threat would have gotten the ballistics equivalent of the Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique, only the threat wouldn't even get five steps before it'd be dead.

One of the few elements that works for Iron Man is that normal bullets can't hurt him because he's wearing ARMOR. He's immune to most conventional suppression techniques such as strength of body or bullets. That puts him in a different league, one where the threats must escalate to meet him. Whiplash is strutting around bare-chested. One shot, one kill for him.

They show a shot of Tony in armor being strangled by Whiplash's tendrils because he got within 10 yards of him. Bitch took out a tank at 100 yards with a small magnetic missile in the first movie. Different armors, sure, but you get my drift.

I'm sure the complete scene will try and put everything into perspective how a number of cock-ups led to creating the cool situation in the movie, or show how Whiplash's power source creates a field around him that prevents ranged attacks from working against him.

[Lakov_Sanite]

Actually I'm pretty sure it's france since interviews have made a big deal of stark being in other countries and the jail whiplash is put in afterwards has guards speaking french.

[Evildrider]

The race is supposed to be in Monaco.

[Ratman_tf]

I could see Tony having armed guards at a race he's participating in. He's a public superhero with a huge company that does work for the US military. I'd be disappointed if they didn't have a small corporate army.
I'm also fairly sure that blasing a hail of bullets into a track full of speeding cars, pit crews, TV crews and spectators in the stands would be a pretty bad idear.

Anybody here know the proper level of response to a maniac wielding dual energy whips? 

[Lakov_Sanite]

Stark is enough of an narcissist to NOT have a private army.

[SurfD]

I could see Tony having armed guards at a race he's participating in. He's a public superhero with a huge company that does work for the US military. I'd be disappointed if they didn't have a small corporate army.

Actually, I would say Stark would actively repulse attempts to get himself a "security detail".

First off, as previously mentioned, he is enough of a narcissist (especially now that he has the suit) to personally consider himself untouchable.  I mean, who in their right mind would go after a "super hero".  For that matter, how many "super heroes" do you know that need their own bodyguards (kind of defeats the purpose of the whole "super hero" monicker.

He probably thinks that his personal fame and notoriety is enough to protect him from the run of the mill nutjob; tack on the idea that the average joe probably thinks of him as some kind of "techno superman" toteing around god knows what kind of ubertech death-device at all times, and he is probably right, too.  The only people crazy enough to attack him would also be brilliant enough to at least understand what he is reasonably capable of.

Also, I seem to recall that he shifted stark enterprises AWAY from military asset development, so the military has no real reason to protect him.  He even blatantly slaps them down in the trailers, refusing to hand over the Iron Man tech to the military, citing himself as having privatized world peace.

[Teleku]

Eh around here stadium security is typically NOT armed (at least for baseball and college football) but there are always actual cops around. Armed security guards at... Bay Meadows I'm assuming? is kind of strange. (If I'm misremembering and you're not a Bay Area dude never mind.)

Golden Gate Fields, actually.  They shut down Bay Meadows in 2008. :(

[Ingmar]

Oh right, I knew one of 'em was gone...

[fuser]

If we want to go into full geek detail, just how many security guards would there be at an F-1 race?

Depends on the GP and whats going on at the time. Each promoter of the race is responsible for the track security which generally is the local region police force. Some tracks are quite relaxed like the dedicated tracks and that's where you see people occasionally getting on track during an event. Street circuit tracks like Monaco and Singapore involve more security to close down roads and reroute traffic etc. That being said it's not unusual for at the end of event's even today for fans to rush the paddock at the end to celebrate (see crazy tifosi).

The race is supposed to be in Monaco.

Indeed your correct from the trailer it looks like it's suppose to be the chicane in front of the harbor.
(Large shot of the section)

Oh BTW what Stark is driving is not an F1 car from recent years. I'd guess its an older Brabham (like a BT52) but there are a lot of cars in the shots from various decades.

[Aliexia]

Man a 15 year old Sudanese militia recruit high on turpentine fumes and armed with a 40 year old AK could have ran out there, successfully killed Stark, then turned around and riddled Mickey Rourke with bullets for shits and giggles. What a shit supervillain.

<-- WUA on his friend's account while he stays with them

[Teleku]

Man a 15 year old Sudanese militia recruit high on turpentine fumes and armed with a 40 year old AK could have ran out there, successfully killed Stark, then turned around and riddled Mickey Rourke with bullets for shits and giggles. What a shit supervillain.

<-- WUA on his friend's account while he stays with them

Is there something stopping you from logging in under your account while you "stay with them"?

Having said that, yeah, I agree, I hope its only that one scene.  Because if he seriously runs around wreaking havoc bare chested with energy wip's the whole movie...... my suspension of belief can only go so far, no matter how awesome the movie is.

[Evildrider]

It could have been:  

[Ironwood]

Fuck sake, he's got an arc reactor he built IN A CAVE on his chest.

Of course he has  a fucking forcefield !!!

[Tannhauser]

Whiplash is a tactial genius!  Hmm I'm facing a foe who is armored, flies and can attack at range with beams and explosive mini-missiles.  I know!  I'll walk towards him and use melee weapons!  Brilliant!

It IS interesting how we can accept a suit of armor in a briefcase, but not an unarmored power whip user.  It's when suspension of disbelief meets with reality.  Why didn't the eagles fly them to Mount Doom?  And so on. 

My take on it is that in the alternate universe of Iron Man, no security is brave enough to shoot, after all, that's why THAT universe spawned superheroes. 

[Ironwood]

I remember the comic where Blacklash went back to his home town and end up whipping the local school bullies.  That was silly. 


<----- WUA Posting from Scotland.  Friend got very, very boring.

[Venkman]

Damn. I almost wish they hadn't shown how the suitcase worked. That was awesome, but would have preferred it in the theater with hundreds of others of late-30-somethings going "awesome!".

<--- WUA posting from the can.

[Surlyboi]

Yeah, but it's a trailer, you know they give all the good shit away up front these days.

<---- WUA Posting from the cave where Tony Stark built his first suit.

[Kirth]

<---- WUA Posting from the cave where Tony Stark built his first suit.

This can only go to good places. 

[Teleku]

God damnit, I always suspected this forum was nothing but a bunch of WAU gimmick accounts.  I knew Schild couldn't possibly be a real person.

[schild]

Sup thou.

[Riggswolfe]

You all assume that security guards are going to calmly react, draw and aim at the crazy man on the track while the crowd around them freaks out. Maybe they'll actually show security guys trying to get a shot but unable to because of the screaming, running civilians.

<-- Wua posting from Hell. Wait? What? That shit's not real, my bad. WUA on a bad acid trip.

[Evildrider]

This is all silly, you are arguing about reality in a superhero movie.

<-- WUA Posting from your Mom's.

[K9]

Smells like mech debate

<- WUA, posting from Gryeyes house.

[Arthur_Parker]

What's WUA doing in Scotland anyway?

[Furiously]

PLAYING THE BEST GAME EVER!!!!!

FINAL FANTASY

<----- WUA posting from Grunk's house on Furiously's account.

[Sir T]

We demand nostalgia in this movie



<--- WUA, posting from a Scottish reeducation camp. Bleak is good, bleak is good...

[schild]

Some jokes are funny, this one isn't.

<-- schild posting from schild's account.

[Ironwood]

You don't find much funny these days.  You've turned into a miserable fucker.

You're welcome to join my support group or share my Citalopram.

 

[NowhereMan]

Comic Book Security Guards:  Where all the Storm Troopers went when the Death Star Blew Up.

Not all of them.

Lateredit: While I stand by my post I also missed the whole next page of silliness.

[Raguel]

I didn't recognize Scarlett Johansson. I'm not sure I like that casting, but I'm positive it won't matter. 

[Merusk]

You know you're old when you don't get a comic reference image and just don't give a damn.

[Khaldun]

Pretty sure it's going to turn out that Whiplash's apparatus repels bullets, etc. He appears to have an arc reactor, too.

[UnSub]

Personally, I'm going to wait for the movie to come out before making complaints about how stupid something is or not. Whiplash may have just been going for a vulgar display of power, to show Stark that he has an equal.

Also: forget all of the idea about security guards - Whiplash is going after Stark without any armour on. Stark, who may very well have ways to kill people strapped to his body at all times. I don't think Whiplash is overly concerned about being shot in the head in any case.

[Teleku]

Personally, I'm going to wait for the movie to come out before making complaints about how stupid something is or not. Whiplash may have just been going for a vulgar display of power, to show Stark that he has an equal.

Also: forget all of the idea about security guards - Whiplash is going after Stark without any armour on. Stark, who may very well have ways to kill people strapped to his body at all times. I don't think Whiplash is overly concerned about being shot in the head in any case.

All this is more or less what I'm hoping for.  It's just that it's hard to tell from the trailer.