Wolverine

[Abagadro]

Trailor now up online

Looks like it could be good. First big-budget flick for this director though so could go either way.

[ahoythematey]

I like what I see in the trailer.  However, Gavin Hood's imdb has me more skeptical than I'd like.  Can't be worse than X-Men 3, though.

Right?  RIGHT?

[Xerapis]

Looks fucking awesome.

Dear Director-type peoples: NEEDS LOTS OF FIGHTING! I do not want another Hulk-style introspective origin story. Show us the background info and the transformation and all that. That should take no more than 30 minutes. The rest of the movie needs to be SHREDDING SHIT WITH METAL CLAWS.

[LK]

The action set pieces look pretty fucking awesome.

Deadpool outfit ... not so much.

[Broughden]

That trailer was sexier than any porn I have EVER seen on the internet.

One question.

Who is the character/villian at the end who asks "Do you even know how to kill me?"

[Evildrider]

That was Liev Schriber as Sabretooth.  I think he'll be awesome at it.  I mean can't be worse then Taylor Mane from the Singer movies.

[Broughden]

That was Liev Schriber as Sabretooth.  I think he'll be awesome at it.  I mean can't be worse then Taylor Mane from the Singer movies.

I love Liev as an actor....but are you fucking kidding me? He was supposed to be Sabretooth? No wonder I didnt know who that villian was.

I thought Sabretooth was supposed to be a big ripped motherfucker.

If onyl Vladimir Kulich from 13th Warrior was still young enough.

[SurfD]

Well, this is "origins" of wolverine, maybe they are going with the whole "sabertooth wasn't quite a big and ripped and feral looking back at the beginning" angle.  I mean, it is possible he gets that way later, after the treatment or whatever sets in further and further.

[Merusk]

This is directly taken from the graphic novel of the same name, isn't it?  The Victorian scenes looked like the one I perused a few years back when Media Play was still around, at least.

IIRC Sabertooth wasn't big hulking and menacing in that book.  He was just a bit bigger than Logan and looked "normal," not like the X-men lepoard-print hair-metal god.

[Slyfeind]

First off, I'm damn surprised Hugh Jackman agreed to do this. I'm not saying it's good or bad, but he can do anything he wants, and he's doing a spin-off of a series that ended somewhat flatly? Very surprising.

Second, I was thrilled to see little Logan with bone claws. I get into so many insane geek arguments when I try to tell people he was born with those. The X-Men trilogy seemed to imply the claws were implants, but...eeeek little boy with deadly claws. Superheroes should have frightening moments like that; Wolverine doubly so.

[Rishathra]

First off, I'm damn surprised Hugh Jackman agreed to do this. I'm not saying it's good or bad, but he can do anything he wants, and he's doing a spin-off of a series that ended somewhat flatly? Very surprising

Not when you remember that he agreed to do it after the insane success of the second movie.  He probably regrets it now, but he signed the deal a while ago.

[Trippy]

Second, I was thrilled to see little Logan with bone claws. I get into so many insane geek arguments when I try to tell people he was born with those. The X-Men trilogy seemed to imply the claws were implants, but...eeeek little boy with deadly claws.

That was retconned into his origin when Magneto pulled his Adamantium out. In the Claremont/Byrne X-Men his claws were artificial (see Days of Future Past).

[WindupAtheist]

Holy shit. Me wanty.

[Surlyboi]

I want me a masked deadpool, goddammit.

[Slyfeind]

Second, I was thrilled to see little Logan with bone claws. I get into so many insane geek arguments when I try to tell people he was born with those. The X-Men trilogy seemed to imply the claws were implants, but...eeeek little boy with deadly claws.

That was retconned into his origin when Magneto pulled his Adamantium out. In the Claremont/Byrne X-Men his claws were artificial (see Days of Future Past).

Was it? Dang. Well I like his born-with-them claws better. I don't know why; maybe because it's more of an "OMG!!!" moment.

[Triforcer]

THE BLOB!

[Morat20]

I want me a masked deadpool, goddammit.

Just because he doesn't have a mask in the .5 seconds he's on screen doesn't mean he won't wear one.

Although I think Reynolds could pull it off, mask or not.

[WindupAtheist]

First off, I'm damn surprised Hugh Jackman agreed to do this. I'm not saying it's good or bad, but he can do anything he wants, and he's doing a spin-off of a series that ended somewhat flatly? Very surprising

Not when you remember that he agreed to do it after the insane success of the second movie.  He probably regrets it now, but he signed the deal a while ago.

He can't be too picky if he signed up to do Van Helsing, and with that Australia flick having turned out to be a screaming flop, having a big-money superhero project sitting in the can waiting to be released doesn't strike me as something he'd regret. Hell, he doesn't even have to share credit with an ensemble this time, it's his character's name in the title. This is just what his career ordered.

[Ironwood]

My thinking also.

Unless it's a massive turkey, it'll be fine for him.  And it really can't be, since it's just a cockwrap for fanbois anyway.

[Velorath]

I want me a masked deadpool, goddammit.

In general , the line of thinking seems to be that masks are kinda shitty if you need to character to convey any sort of emotion.  It's why Spider-man frequently has his mask taken off or ripped enough to expose part of his face in each movie.  In fact IIRC the same thing happened near the end of Iron Man also (we also frequently got glimpses of Stark's face inside the armor.

Rumors have gone around that Fox, who are already doing to other X-men spin-off projects, might be looking at doing a Deadpool movie (of course there were also rumors when Blade Trinity came out that Reynolds might star in a Hannibal King movie also).  If that's true, I can see why maybe they wouldn't want to push the "horribly fucked up face" angle with the character right now.

[ahoythematey]

Hmmm.  I would like to think that, given an actor and director with enough talent, a mask wouldn't be more than a minor hindrance.  My only examples to give for this, though, aren't really comic-book movies.  Edward Norton in Kingdom of Heaven, Clive Owen in The Inside Man, maybe Warwick Davis in Hitchhiker's Guide and David Prowse as Darth Vader.

[Riggswolfe]

Hmmm.  I would like to think that, given an actor and director with enough talent, a mask wouldn't be more than a minor hindrance.  My only examples to give for this, though, aren't really comic-book movies.  Edward Norton in Kingdom of Heaven, Clive Owen in The Inside Man, maybe Warwick Davis in Hitchhiker's Guide and David Prowse as Darth Vader.

Peter Weller in Robocop. Though since you can see his chin and lips that might not count.

[Tannhauser]

LOL Gambit fights with a staff.  My crappy movie radar is banging off the screen.

[Trippy]

He's supposed to fight with a staff.

[Ironwood]

Yeah, not sure where you're going with that one.  There's a rumour that Logan and Sabretooth will be fighting hand to hand also.  zomg.

[ashrik]

I heard some story leak about Wolverine and Deadtooth having some kind of super healing power? Talk about crapping all over canon. What sort of movie magic bullshit is this?

Back to the drawing board I guess /sigh

[UnSub]

From memory, Deadpool only wears a mask because he looks gross, and he looks gross thanks to the Weapon X experiments that he underwent. If "Wolverine" is about that program, it makes sense he won't need a mask when he first appears.

[Morat20]

He's supposed to fight with a staff.

And throws cards. And has a Cajun accent.

I can't recall if he spoke during the trailer, but he threw cards that exploded and fought with a staff that glowed (from kinetic energy or whatever it is he does), so it appears they've captured the gist of his fighting style. :)

[Evildrider]

I heard some story leak about Wolverine and Deadtooth having some kind of super healing power? Talk about crapping all over canon. What sort of movie magic bullshit is this?

Back to the drawing board I guess /sigh

Do know anything about the Weapon X program?  Wovlerine, Sabertooth, and Deadpool all have healing abilities.  The whole reason Deadpool wears a mask is because of the Healing ability he got from the Weapon X program.

[schild]

LOL Gambit fights with a staff.  My crappy movie radar is banging off the screen.

Gambit can fight with anything, his mutant power is charging shit up. He's always fought with a staff though. Seriously, everyone should know this shit. It's common knowledge.

I heard some story leak about Wolverine and Deadtooth having some kind of super healing power? Talk about crapping all over canon. What sort of movie magic bullshit is this?

Back to the drawing board I guess /sigh

Don't be a retard.

[stray]

Just wondering, was Gambit part of Weapon-X? He's cool, but a little "after my time", so to speak. I was under the impression that he was just some thief in New Orleans... and not that old either.

[Tannhauser]

Ok note to self: Don't post drunk.  In my defense I haven't read XMen in nearly ten years.  Also I only remember him throwing cards.  Cards? Really?  Why not throw shuriken instead.  Exploding shuriken!  But his name makes sense with the cards.

And finally, I have never liked the bastage.  I prefer Byrne/Claremont XMen.  YMMV.

[stray]

Cards are cheap and easy to handle and dispense with. 52 to a deck, 1 dollar. Shuriken is pointless, since he charges shit up kinetically and makes them explode. It wouldn't be cool to destroy shuriken, now would it?

It's not that he's throwing cards per se as projectiles. It's just a cheap method for bombing people.

[Trippy]

Ok note to self: Don't post drunk.  In my defense I haven't read XMen in nearly ten years.  Also I only remember him throwing cards.  Cards? Really?  Why not throw shuriken instead.  Exploding shuriken!  But his name makes sense with the cards.

He's a cardshark and gambler (and a professional thief), hence the cards.

[SurfD]

I heard some story leak about Wolverine and Deadtooth having some kind of super healing power? Talk about crapping all over canon. What sort of movie magic bullshit is this?

Back to the drawing board I guess /sigh

What the fuck are you smoking?

Wolverine: Uber healing factor practically defines his character.
Sabertooth: Same thing, he's a brawnier more savage version of wolverine, same healing factor, no claws.
Deadpool: Was dying of cancer and offered himself to the W-X program as a test subject as a potential cure. They gave him a superhuman healing factor, but a side effect of the experiment left him looking like a walking scar, horribly disfigured, hense the mask.