SWTOR

[Ingmar]

Beat me to it.

[Sobelius]

And they can backpedal all they want. A lot of politicos have military pasts, but they weren't spies/assassins. That's a stupid reference point.

Depends on the country.

Brilliant.

[Lt.Dan]

What's David McCullum got to do with all this?

[Amaron]

So, you think Lucas should abandon the copyright on Star Wars?

Copyright's exist to give incentive to create works.   There's really no reason Star Wars shouldn't of gone into the public domain a while ago.    The amount of money he's made is more than enough.   The problem of course is how do you judge "more than enough".  It's better to just use an amount of time that's reasonable but we've let Disney and company screw that over.

[Soln]

I know Origin was discussed, but is there any real disadvantage from Amazon or other?  Is Origin needed for patching?  I really hate that kind of SOE-Station-Client crap.   I'd prefer not to have Origin.

[Malakili]

I know Origin was discussed, but is there any real disadvantage from Amazon or other?  Is Origin needed for patching?  I really hate that kind of SOE-Station-Client crap.   I'd prefer not to have Origin.

Nope, if you buy a box you don't need origin

"Origin is a digital storefront, and the desktop application is there to give you quick access to Origin exclusives and deals. However, you won’t need to launch the Origin application to run The Old Republic, nor will you patch the game via Origin. Once the game is on your hard disk, you’ll be connecting to our servers to patch and launch the game, and Origin does not have to be running to do that."

[caladein]

If you're right this will be interesting since those classes are in order:

1) ranged tank
2) melee dps/melee tank
3) healing/ranged dps
4) ranged dps/stealth

Which means we'd see a game where tanks are everywhere (on one side at least)

Well, the top three classes on Paelos's list and their Republic equivalents can all tank.  The only one that can't heal is Sith Warrior/Jedi Knight.  Most players are going to take the damage-y talents and be damage dealers in groups even if their Advanced Class offers another option just because most players prefer not to tank or heal.

The point is that they're offering as much flexibility as possible so the players that are willing to heal or tank at some point in their careers are able to without having to reroll.

[UnSub]

The guild description has "Light Roleplaying" and it sounds creepy.

The safety word is "strawberries".

[Sky]

The point is that they're offering as much flexibility as possible so the players that are willing to heal or tank at some point in their careers are able to without having to reroll.

Still hope they come to their senses and at least ship with dual spec, even if they can't implement something like Rift's roles at the eleventh hour. Planning on Powertech BH, still. Hopefully tanks can solo ok, if not...let's hope BC stays active for a while :)

My BH race was newly inspired by a moist slice of cake.  

The safety word is "strawberries".

POPCORN (I wish that was a better quality video, damn SNL lawyers +2 pts if you rp CAROLE)

[Ratman_tf]

He's a Grand Moff by the time of New Hope.  They've decided he was an Imperial Agent in his younger days. 

I like to pretend he was a superhero.

[apocrypha]

Is there enough of a Euro presence here to make an EU chapter of BC a worthwhile endeavor?

[eldaec]

Suspect there will be a decent number if euros for the first 6 weeks until we decide the game is horrible, but I can't see any sensible reason to create a separate guild.

[VainEldritch]

Is there enough of a Euro presence here to make an EU chapter of BC a worthwhile endeavor?

I'd be up for that provided we can be goodie-two-shoes Republic since I'm liking the Jedi Consular.

 

[Kail]

What's the deal with the BC guild signup thing?  Is there some benefit for anyone for me to sign up / not sign up for it now, as opposed to when I get the game?  Or is it just like a pledge to show up or something?

[Merusk]

What's the deal with the BC guild signup thing?  Is there some benefit for anyone for me to sign up / not sign up for it now, as opposed to when I get the game?  Or is it just like a pledge to show up or something?

They're going to randomly assign guilds to their preferred server type on launch.  It saves us the "oh we're going here, no that's a dumb name for a server" arguments. 

There was also an earlier promo to let guilds into the beta as a whole group. I don't know if that's still the case.

[apocrypha]

but I can't see any sensible reason to create a separate guild.

Just practical reasons. Playing on a US server when you're in an EU timezone means a deserted server from our point of view. It often means downtimes scheduled for our peak times.

Do we know what the situation is with regards to server choice? I.e. will an EU box even allow US server selection? If you purchase an EU WoW account you can't play on US servers for instance.

[Lucas]

but I can't see any sensible reason to create a separate guild.

Just practical reasons. Playing on a US server when you're in an EU timezone means a deserted server from our point of view. It often means downtimes scheduled for our peak times.

Do we know what the situation is with regards to server choice? I.e. will an EU box even allow US server selection? If you purchase an EU WoW account you can't play on US servers for instance.

Yes, EU and US are not region locked, it's in the pre-order FAQ:

Yes, it will be possible to play on the same server as your friends. Any player of Star Wars: The Old Republic can choose to play on any server. However, if you choose to play on a server outside of your own region (i.e., – playing on European servers from North America, and vice versa), because of natural latency caused by the distance between your client and the game servers, you may find your game performance is impacted.

[eldaec]

Oh I see.

Fuck playing on EU servers tbh.

Being able to play with f13 dudes on the overlap beats having an overabundance of mouthbreathers in prime.

[Sky]

I'd be up for that provided we can be goodie-two-shoes Republic since I'm liking the Jedi Consular.

I can't get past the ability to call up endless oil tanks out of the ground to throw.

[01101010]

I am suddenly leaning very hard to Imperial Agent... why god why.

[Reg]

Hah me too. And a cute little red-haired girl Imperial Agent at that. And I never play females in MMOs.

[Draegan]

I am suddenly leaning very hard to Imperial Agent... why god why.

I wish Empire had troopers.  I love the look of Bounty Hunters but the flame thrower looks meh if that's the main attack for the Powertech.

[Arrrgh]

I know Origin was discussed, but is there any real disadvantage from Amazon or other?  Is Origin needed for patching?  I really hate that kind of SOE-Station-Client crap.   I'd prefer not to have Origin.

Nope, if you buy a box you don't need origin

"Origin is a digital storefront, and the desktop application is there to give you quick access to Origin exclusives and deals. However, you won’t need to launch the Origin application to run The Old Republic, nor will you patch the game via Origin. Once the game is on your hard disk, you’ll be connecting to our servers to patch and launch the game, and Origin does not have to be running to do that."

They'll route the pre-order head start download through origin to force everyone to sign up anyway.

[apocrypha]

Yes, EU and US are not region locked, it's in the pre-order FAQ:

Yes, it will be possible to play on the same server as your friends. Any player of Star Wars: The Old Republic can choose to play on any server. However, if you choose to play on a server outside of your own region (i.e., – playing on European servers from North America, and vice versa), because of natural latency caused by the distance between your client and the game servers, you may find your game performance is impacted.

Oh that's very cool. Nice one.

Although... Blizzard said *exactly* the same about WoW before launch and then reneged on that promise. Not saying I expect that to be the case, just saying. :)

[eldaec]

Pretty sure EA's prior mmog efforts have all been global. Only exception was Warhammer because the GOA deal was signed before Mythic were bought out.

Usually the only reason mmogs are region locked is because the publisher doesn't have a global operation.

[Merusk]

Blizzard was just Blizzard at the time.  They didn't have an international data center infrastructure set-up to service the Euros, did they? (Since they were initially NOT using Battle.net) If they had to offshore that, losing the ability to play trans-Atlanticly was probably part of the deal, to ensure the Euro publisher got enough sales.

It's probably the ONE and only advantage to having EA publishing.

Ed: yeah, what Eldaec said.

[Murgos]

I'd be up for that provided we can be goodie-two-shoes Republic since I'm liking the Jedi Consular.

I can't get past the ability to call up endless oil tanks out of the ground to throw.

I must be very shallow because I agree with this.  The really need to change that animation because, holy shades of CoH Batman!  Make it a kamehameha blast like in the one cgi movie on Coruscant and I will be much happier.

[Merusk]

It's not shallow, I've thought the same thing.  You can only suspend disbelief so far, after all.  That one is way past the line. 

I'll really enjoy videos of swimming Force-Adepts conjuring metal from the nothingness of the water.

[Malakili]

Somehow I missed this video, can anyone provide a link? That sounds really lulzy.

[Merusk]

I said I'll.. as in I Will - future tense.   I'm speculating that you'll be able to actually walk into water at some point.  To date I don't think we've seen anything about it, but if it does the current animation will have to do what I described.  It does it now, its just that the "appearance" happens beneath the walking surface.

Think of the DK ghoul summon in WoW.  If the DK is swimming the ghoul pops out of a hole from nowhere.  It looks ridiculous.

[tmp]

It's not shallow, I've thought the same thing.  You can only suspend disbelief so far, after all.  That one is way past the line. 

That ability seems to be conscious of environment actually. You pull out oil tanks in industrial areas, but when running around in more natural setting, it's rocks

[Paelos]

Where in the hell are we getting this oil tanks stuff?

[sam, an eggplant]

I'll really enjoy videos of swimming Force-Adepts conjuring metal from the nothingness of the water.

Sorry, no swimming in SWTOR.

GW2's got you covered though.

[tmp]

Where in the hell are we getting this oil tanks stuff?

It could be seen in the video they released recently, the one with group of 4 storming castle of some general guy.

[Malakili]

Found it, that description helped me find it.  I remember this video but I don't think I ever watched it all the way through:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM8GMXae2XM#t=7m

Seems like the time won't work when the video is embedded like this, skip to 7 minutes.