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Sir T
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Reply #35 on: March 12, 2020, 08:07:39 AM

Ireland basically shut down all public services, effective tomorrow. Gatherings over 500 people outside and 100 people inside are strongly discouraged. Shops pubs and restaurants are to remain open but to "help with social isolation." We had our first death yesterday, so I'm proud we were excluded from the travel ban to the USA.
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Reply #36 on: March 12, 2020, 08:09:34 AM

Pelosi is doing her weekly House Speaker briefing right now. She has provide more concrete reassuring information in 10 minutes than the whole trump administration.
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Reply #37 on: March 12, 2020, 09:05:28 AM

Justin Trudeau and his wife are isolating themselves after his wife Sophie exhibited a dry cough and fever last night. They're waiting on the test results I guess.
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Reply #38 on: March 12, 2020, 10:23:42 AM


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Reply #39 on: March 12, 2020, 11:54:27 AM

Hey folks,

Today I've returned to Italy after a 7-day trip to Swedish Lapland (think I briefly told you about it in a message). Well, while I was away looks like the situation escalated quickly  Ohhhhh, I see.

I must say that, all things considered, our most unlikely PM ever is doing a great job.
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While there is a general lockdown in place, I'll be especially careful to avoid anyone (luckily my home is my "office") because how risky my compulsory stays at the airports were (airports are waaay more at risk than the inside of airplanes themselves). I definitely won't see my parents for at least 14 days.

EDIT: Oh, and by the way, THANK YOU FRANKFURT AIRPORT: my Stockholm-Frankfurt flight was basically empty: me, my girlfriend and our two friends got nice seats as far away from others as possible (during our trip it was a constant because planes right now are less crowded of course) but then they put you all together, all close to each other on the bus that brings you to the terminal. Good job.
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Reply #40 on: March 12, 2020, 12:25:01 PM

On Italy: the other thing that people need to realize is that the vast vast majority of cases there are not concluded. Recovery still takes up to 21 days. And super vulnerable people will sicken and die relatively quickly, causing a spike in the mortality early. CFR is a moving target -- it converges to a final value only after the outbreak is over.

I updated my tracking sheet with the numbers from yesterday which calculate a death rate for *finished* cases. It makes Italy's ten times worse -- but also shows that only 15% of cases have finished.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sY61_M4GhP1MPfCD5dZov9g_5CYIycUPDjdZkGKXwN8/edit

The ersatz confidence value there is just "are there more than 500 cases? OK, show concluded/confirmed for confidence. (e.g., 100% when there aren't any active cases). Are there less than 500? Then multiply that by how close to 500 it is, e.g. concluded/confirmed * confirmed/500." 500 is of course an arbitrarily chosen guess at a statistically valid number.
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Reply #41 on: March 12, 2020, 12:40:35 PM

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Reply #42 on: March 12, 2020, 12:45:27 PM

Huawei  also donated millions of ffp masks
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Reply #43 on: March 12, 2020, 12:52:42 PM

NY state just banned all gatherings at venues with capacity >500, and reduced legal capacity of venues <500 by half, excluding schools, hospitals, nursing homes and mass transit. Effective 5pm tomorrow, except Broadway, effective 5pm tonight.

Shit just got real here.
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Reply #44 on: March 12, 2020, 12:56:25 PM

Anyway, Pornhub won today's medal: Premium version will be totally free for the entire month of March for italian users "...to keep you company during all these weeks at home".



Thank you Pornhub.

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Reply #45 on: March 12, 2020, 01:02:48 PM

The Serbian Prime Minister coughing while a journalist asks him about coronavirus.

If you want to hear what the coronavirus cough sounds like...
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Reply #46 on: March 12, 2020, 01:16:03 PM

The Serbian Prime Minister coughing while a journalist asks him about coronavirus.

If you want to hear what the coronavirus cough sounds like...

Clip was cut. he choked on water 2 seconds beforehand. That's why no one was actually concerned.
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Reply #47 on: March 12, 2020, 01:42:39 PM

Washington State is closing all schools until end of April, press conference at 2pm.

Maryland is also closing all schools.

California just banned all gatherings larger than 250.

Also, all smaller gatherings are required to keep 6 feet distance between people, and if they can't, they're banned too.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/03/12/coronavirus-gov-newsom-says-cancel-gatherings-over-250-statewide/

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Governor Gavin Newsom and public health officials have ordered Californians to cancel or postpone gatherings of 250 or more people statewide through the end of March to slow the spread of the potentially deadly coronavirus disease COVID-19. The new order further calls for canceling or postponing even smaller gatherings where those attending cannot keep six feet apart from each other, and limiting groups of older or unhealthier people more vulnerable to the disease to no more than 10.


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Newsom made clear in a Thursday morning press conference that he considers the order to be mandatory. He acknowledged some questions about the state’s authority, but said “we have tools in our toolkit” if anyone resists.

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The ban — which Newsom’s office announced at 11 p.m. Wednesday — applies to all non-essential professional, social and community gatherings regardless of their sponsor. That includes sporting events and concerts, Newsom said Thursday. It does not apply to activities such as attendance at regular school classes, work, or essential services, or to essential public transportation, airport travel, or shopping at a store or mall. It also does not apply to congregate living situations, including dormitories and homeless encampments. “Essential gatherings should only be conducted if the essential activity could not be postponed or achieved without gathering, meaning that some other means of communication could not be used to conduct the essential function,” Newsom’s office said. The directive also does not include casinos, theaters, and large parks like Disneyland

A few hours later, Disney also announced they are closing.

https://variety.com/2020/biz/news/disney-theme-park-closed-coronavirus-1203531795/
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Reply #48 on: March 12, 2020, 02:15:03 PM

Hmm. Wonder if my son's Little League season actually happens. Of course, Arizona has a history if disregarding any safety suggestions.

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Reply #49 on: March 12, 2020, 02:40:44 PM

The Serbian Prime Minister coughing while a journalist asks him about coronavirus.

If you want to hear what the coronavirus cough sounds like...

Clip was cut. he choked on water 2 seconds beforehand. That's why no one was actually concerned.

Thanks I had no idea. Sounded convincing!

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Reply #50 on: March 12, 2020, 03:14:55 PM

Washington State is closing all schools until end of April, press conference at 2pm.



3 counties in Washington are closing schools until April. No others have done so yet.

https://www.seattletimes.com/education-lab/inslee-orders-all-private-public-k-12-schools-in-king-pierce-snohomish-counties-to-close-through-april-24/

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Reply #51 on: March 12, 2020, 04:14:16 PM

Some good news here in Minnesota.  The Mayo clinic says it developed a new COVID-19 test that gives results within 24 hours.  They just need to get it approved by the federal bureaucracy. 

Once they do they are planning on distributing it all over the world.
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Reply #52 on: March 12, 2020, 04:23:58 PM

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Reply #53 on: March 12, 2020, 05:52:12 PM

If it doesn't exist already, what would also be useful is a test for antibodies, to identify people who didn't really get symptoms and are now safe to go back to work (especially those working in healthcare). That will describe many younger people'e experience with the virus. They may not know they've had it, but identifying them is important.
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Reply #54 on: March 12, 2020, 05:55:04 PM

I read an article about South Korea's testing regime and that they are working on trying to get an antibody test developed.

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Reply #55 on: March 12, 2020, 10:54:55 PM

Hmm. Wonder if my son's Little League season actually happens. Of course, Arizona has a history if disregarding any safety suggestions.

Season halted until April 7th. No practices, no hitting sessions, no meetings, no opening day, no games. First game was supposed to be on Saturday and they've been practicing 3 times a week for the past month. Big bummer, but I'm ok with it.

Wonder how hard the head coaches are going to try to cheat at this.

Work just gave us the work-at-home directive until further notice.

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Reply #56 on: March 13, 2020, 12:16:08 AM

Australia's Home Affairs Minister (ex-cop and seeming wannabe Nazi) Peter Dutton has been diagnosed with COVID-19. He recently returned from a trip to Washington DC.
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Reply #57 on: March 13, 2020, 03:00:07 AM

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Satellite images of mass graves in the city of Qom suggest Iran’s coronavirus epidemic is even more serious than the authorities are admitting.

The pictures, first published by the New York Times, show the excavation of a new section in a cemetery on the northern fringe of Iran’s holy city in late February, and two long trenches dug, of a total length of 100 yards, by the end of the month.

They confirm the worst fears about the extent of the epidemic and the government’s subsequent cover-up. On 24 February, at the time the trenches were being dug, a legislator from Qom, 75 miles (120 km) south of Tehran, accused the health ministry of lying about the scale of the outbreak, saying there had already been 50 deaths in the city, at a time when the ministry was claiming only 12 people had died from the virus nationwide.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/12/coronavirus-iran-mass-graves-qom

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Reply #58 on: March 13, 2020, 04:37:41 AM

Australia's Home Affairs Minister (ex-cop and seeming wannabe Nazi) Peter Dutton has been diagnosed with COVID-19. He recently returned from a trip to Washington DC.

Pic taken 7 days ago. The bald potato-looking guy is our Home Affairs (Homeland Security) Minister who just tested positive for coronavirus.

Maybe he got it from/gave it to Barr or Ivanka?

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Reply #59 on: March 13, 2020, 06:03:00 AM

The White House will refuse to test for it, and is now spreading it through the Federal Government.

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Reply #60 on: March 13, 2020, 06:18:31 AM

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Reply #61 on: March 13, 2020, 07:14:27 AM

Swedish govt made a huge declaration regarding covid-19 same day as who declared it a pandemic. As someone that handles finances for a sports restaurant/night club its going to fuck the place properly. There was going to be a large sports event in my town with swedish champions for smaller winter sports and its cancelled. Icehockey and basktball cancelled, european cup cancelled, all company groups cancel, booking for friday and saturday is what we normally have for regular week days, friday lunch we lost 30% of what we regularly have.

I'm doing liquidity calculation now but it would probably be better if I just made job applications instead since this place is fucked.

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Reply #62 on: March 13, 2020, 08:22:04 AM

The White House will refuse to test for it, and is now spreading it through the Federal Government.

The fact that Trump refuses to get tested for it is the most wonderful thing ever.

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Reply #63 on: March 13, 2020, 08:36:01 AM

I didn't notice the news about Australia's Home Affairs Minister being sick until this morning. Apparently the Brazilian president who met with the President last weekend tests positive for COVID-19 as well.

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/12/815022706/brazilian-official-who-met-trump-last-weekend-tests-positive-for-coronavirus

So my guess is there are at least a few people sick in the Whitehouse right now. Trump has to be going nuts or is medicated out of his mind.
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Reply #64 on: March 13, 2020, 08:57:00 AM

Yeah, as a former gigging musician, a lot of my friends are about to hit some really hard times. We're trying to promote their music and merch to help smooth the lack of gig revenue, but...it's going to be a hard few months.

In library news, we're getting the first of the impact. I'm about to go to a meeting with the boss about accommodating local students who don't have access to computers and/or Internet. We've also shut down almost half our computers to create distance between users.

The boss is a martyr, we should probably close since we get pretty much every major vector of carrier and vulnerable population here...but that would also shut down Internet access (thus access to a lot of critical online services) to a lot of vulnerable populations, so....good times.
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Reply #65 on: March 13, 2020, 09:12:26 AM

godwilling this fucking plague kills the gig economy

talk about an actual long-term plague

sorry, that wasn't about musicians, they're just fucked - I'm talking about uber and shit
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Reply #66 on: March 13, 2020, 10:26:51 AM

Swedish govt made a huge declaration regarding covid-19 same day as who declared it a pandemic. As someone that handles finances for a sports restaurant/night club its going to fuck the place properly. There was going to be a large sports event in my town with swedish champions for smaller winter sports and its cancelled. Icehockey and basktball cancelled, european cup cancelled, all company groups cancel, booking for friday and saturday is what we normally have for regular week days, friday lunch we lost 30% of what we regularly have.

I'm doing liquidity calculation now but it would probably be better if I just made job applications instead since this place is fucked.

Yeah the reality of the situation is just hitting around here (west side of Georgia), and people are actually trying to stay home. As a business owner in a service business, this is going to be rough. Of course it would be best to just close up, but it's our and others livelihood, so unless some disaster money is made available to distressed businesses that's not a real option.

But we are making it obvious that everything is being sanitized and cleaned constantly, plus we may increase spacing between tables. So far no outbreaks close by, and we are far from metro centers.
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Reply #67 on: March 13, 2020, 10:35:57 AM

I think the Italy higher mortality is mostly because Italy is notoriously bad about organizing anything, they aren't even coming close to identifying how many people in the country were actually infected.  I think the SK mortality numbers probably hold true for many other countries because they seem to be the only ones going out of their way to identify everyone who is infected.  Good care for the seriously affected and paranoid level sanitary practices will save lives but not testing and including 50%+ of the population that is infected will have the greatest impact on the mortality rate statistic (and possibly cause more deaths than anything else because of the mildly effected wandering around not knowing they are spreading it).  

edit - and I don't know what le fuck is up with Austin but there is some seriously zombie apocalypse levels of paranoia going on here while the city/state/school districts have basically been stating for days there are zero newly documented cases in the area until today they released info on 2.  The message has been just keep doing your normal routines and ignore the fact that we just banned public gatherings at the cost of 10's of millions of dollars.  Went to the supermarket for some ice cream last night at 9:30pm and people were lined up and down the aisles with carts overflowing waiting to check out.
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Reply #68 on: March 13, 2020, 11:04:57 AM

I think the Italy higher mortality is mostly because Italy is notoriously bad about organizing anything, they aren't even coming close to identifying how many people in the country were actually infected.  I think the SK mortality numbers probably hold true for many other countries because they seem to be the only ones going out of their way to identify everyone who is infected.  Good care for the seriously affected and paranoid level sanitary practices will save lives but not testing and including 50%+ of the population that is infected will have the greatest impact on the mortality rate statistic (and possibly cause more deaths than anything else because of the mildly effected wandering around not knowing they are spreading it). 

edit - and I don't know what le fuck is up with Austin but there is some seriously zombie apocalypse levels of paranoia going on here while the city/state/school districts have basically been stating for days there are zero newly documented cases in the area until today they released info on 2.  The message has been just keep doing your normal routines and ignore the fact that we just banned public gatherings at the cost of 10's of millions of dollars.  Went to the supermarket for some ice cream last night at 9:30pm and people were lined up and down the aisles with carts overflowing waiting to check out.

I mean. Austin is being pragmatic. I'm actually more impressed with things here then say, Seattle. Or almost anywhere else. Also Abbot somehow found his balls.
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Reply #69 on: March 13, 2020, 11:21:32 AM

NY Public Library just closed all branches through the end of the month, starting tomorrow.

I'm hoping we follow suit soon, but our martyr director is the prime advisor to our library system, so we will absolutely be the last in the state to close  Shaking fist
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