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Reply #105 on: March 15, 2020, 07:39:17 PM

To be honest it does not look that bad to me.

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Reply #106 on: March 15, 2020, 09:03:37 PM



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETMmDj3WoAEyFKY?format=jpg&name=900x900

MGM is closing all of its Vegas hotels and casinos, no set reopen date.

Val(Shit) = real.

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Reply #107 on: March 16, 2020, 06:39:42 AM

Day 1 of being cooped up with my coworkers while the boss looks for ways for us to interact with the public despite the closure. Should go well when I refuse to do any outreach or meet with patrons in general. Otherwise, why did we close?

I'm sure my tape measure will be very popular, I want nobody in 6' of me, I'm going to be running on the assumption that everyone has been exposed, since nobody has been tested and the cases in NY tripled over the weekend, spreading from the NYC/capitol region  to spots across the state. The most frustrating part is lack of testing, nobody knows how bad (or not) it is.

I'm not a gambler, and the losing stake at this table is the death of my MiL(ish). I'm ok with thinking I'm an over-reacting douchebag at this point.
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Reply #108 on: March 16, 2020, 06:45:48 AM

I'm ok with thinking I'm an over-reacting douchebag at this point.

This needs to be the fucking attitude about all this shit. If we make it out of this with only a few thousand casualties, I'll quite happily say that "overreaction" probably saved somebody's fucking life.

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Reply #109 on: March 16, 2020, 07:06:27 AM

In my small Minnesota town the local bar was just as busy as it usually is.  As long as we have a bunch of idiots acting like everything is normal this thing will spread like wildfire.
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Reply #110 on: March 16, 2020, 07:27:37 AM


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Reply #111 on: March 16, 2020, 09:09:21 AM

Holy shit, she came to her senses at exactly the right time. Just got out of the morning meeting about response and it's uniformly sensible. Except that we have to repost to work at the physical building, but a lot of that is so the part-timers can get paid legally, so it is what it is. I've done many things in favor of them, so I am ok with that. Sort of. I'd rather be home playing minecraft. But I continue to have a career and we're not allowing contact with the public and nobody sits within 6' of me. I took the boss aside and let her know how proud I was of her, she almost broke down and cried.

Meanwhile, in the parking lot during the meeting, a group of teenagers all danced around and acted the fool. Glad they closed schools to keep kids isolated  why so serious? Humans.
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Reply #112 on: March 16, 2020, 09:15:09 AM

Went to the supermarket for the first time here in Italy since I returned from my trip abroad (which happened before the lockdown was in place).

It was quite the mystical experience: the one I went in is usually very packed with people at all hours, big parking lot etc. ; today it was the closest thing to a "day-after" movie I ever seen.

Parking lot basically empty, silence, and inside people wandering through the aisles in silence as well, trying to keep the 1 meter distance and whatnot, all wearing useless surgical masks and/or gloves.

Basically, once you are at home, you have two paths:

a) You go the "gung-ho/insane" (but also the healthiest one, yes) route: remove shoes right at the entrance,  sanitize every sealed package you bought along with the bags (as you know, virus sticks onto the plastic and metal surfaces), then you throw your clothes in the washing machine, wash your hands etc.

b) You just avoid touching your face 'til you stored everything into the fridge/wherever else, put away/throw away the bags, wash your hands then just hope for the best (well, yeah, I've always removed my shoes whenever I came back home anyway).

Think I'll take the b) route

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Reply #113 on: March 16, 2020, 09:54:14 AM

Yeah, I'm doing (b), and am ready to quarantine myself aggressively if I show any symptoms.

Checked in on my dad (68) yesterday; he's doing (a).

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Reply #114 on: March 16, 2020, 10:01:59 AM

Michael Osterholm had some interesting things to say on CBS This Morning.  He now believes that the 6 foot rule is not enough and he thinks it spreads further than that from people breathing.  On the opposite side he thinks the spread from surfaces is overblown and the virus is just not infectious from surfaces.
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Reply #115 on: March 16, 2020, 10:14:52 AM

The surface thing is precautionary. I don't think there's been a single case of transmission that way, and given china there would've been.
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Reply #116 on: March 16, 2020, 10:20:50 AM

The surface thing is precautionary. I don't think there's been a single case of transmission that way, and given china there would've been.
There were several, including one where they dissected surveillance footage from a bus and established that someone who grabbed a pole on the same spot a carrier did (half an hour after that carrier had gotten off the bus) caught it from that.

Surface transmission of common cold coronavirus is well established.

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Reply #117 on: March 16, 2020, 10:37:21 AM

I have all symptoms except a fever. It's virtually impossible to get tested in Arizona, however. Yay.


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Reply #118 on: March 16, 2020, 11:22:17 AM

We had a plastic bag ban begin just over a week ago, so groceries like it's 1988! Funny to have the old bag loading skills automatically kick in, I have to step in because the kids today.

One reason we have a measured response to interacting with the public is that we're effectively quarantining books as they come back because we're waiting for the science on surface transmission. Books have both porous and non-porous surfaces, and even if we could wipe down the covers (even if we could buy wipes), we can't clean every page someone may have expectorated upon. We're going on previous coronavirus behavior until we have better guidelines.

Maintaining a 6' isolation zone has been interesting. Most people are respectful, with several clueless (they step forward after I step back). At least none have taken offense, though I clearly see the mental eyerolling in some.
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Reply #119 on: March 16, 2020, 11:30:22 AM

I have all symptoms except a fever. It's virtually impossible to get tested in Arizona, however. Yay.

My wife's sister in Connecticut is still at Yale Hospital, has lost her voice. 6 days later, she still can't get them to give her a Covid test. They've tested for everything else, INCLUDING the flu, and all those tests have come back negative. Still can't get a test.

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Reply #120 on: March 16, 2020, 12:13:11 PM

I personally know one person who has self quarantined. She has symptoms and has properly reported herself to her doctor and been told to just keep doing what she is already doing. No test, so no attempt at officially checking her recent contacts either.
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Reply #121 on: March 16, 2020, 12:29:41 PM

I personally know one person who has self quarantined. She has symptoms and has properly reported herself to her doctor and been told to just keep doing what she is already doing. No test, so no attempt at officially checking her recent contacts either.

Considering the fact that it is already a global pandemic and the lack of testing.....isn’t that the right approach?  It no longer matters where it is coming from, that phase is over.  And considering the lack of available testing, they cannot afford to test anyone who is not in serious condition.


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Reply #122 on: March 16, 2020, 01:12:10 PM

Most of the San Francisco Bay Area will be in "shelter in place" mode starting at midnight:

https://www.sfchronicle.com/local-politics/article/Bay-Area-must-shelter-in-place-Only-15135014.php

Haven't seen the official announcement from my county yet (local TV news is still showing Trump).

SF announced theirs an hour ago:

https://sfmayor.org/article/san-francisco-issues-new-public-health-order-requiring-residents-stay-home-except-essential
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Reply #123 on: March 16, 2020, 01:57:18 PM

Follow all guidelines.  Do your research.  Be informed and proactive.

However, understand that OVERREACTION is DANGEROUS.  It is called OVERreaction for a reason. 

Shutting shit down kills people, too.  It destroys businesses, stops insurance coverage, and isolates people that are in need.  Use your brain, not your fear, and make the smart choices that the experts tell you to make. 

Don't pretend like you know better when you have less information, less training, and are likely far less intelligent than the people actually making the big calls. 

Want an example?  People are buying up all the bottled drinking water. And then they're buying up all the other types of water.  They have running faucets at home but they are going shit crazy and buying up all the distilled water 'just in case'.  However, there are people that need that distilled water for medical devices that keep them safe.  And they can't find it, because overreacting assholes are overly worried that for some unexplained reason they may need extra water, and bought up the stuff that they should not be drinking.

React. Be Smart.

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Reply #124 on: March 16, 2020, 03:43:29 PM

Here in Minnesota they are closing all bars and restaurants except for delivery or takeout.  Cases are at 54 with 3 hospitalized.  No deaths yet.
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Reply #125 on: March 16, 2020, 04:04:36 PM

Canadian friends with all symptoms took the test twice and it came back negative both times, she just has a bad (something else).
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Reply #126 on: March 16, 2020, 04:07:19 PM

The wife and I both developed tightness in the chest and she's got a scratchy throat, so far, no fevers or anything else. We're also worried we're being overly paranoid but better safe than sorry.

Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something.  We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Reply #127 on: March 16, 2020, 04:24:27 PM

Canadian friends with all symptoms took the test twice and it came back negative both times, she just has a bad (something else).
Took the test twice?  When there are not enough tests to go around?  What fucking doctor allowed that?
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Reply #128 on: March 16, 2020, 04:28:32 PM

Not enough tests to go around? Maybe in the US?

We could text 12,000 people per day if we wanted to. Our labs would not do anything else anymore but we could
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Reply #129 on: March 16, 2020, 04:30:17 PM

Not enough tests to go around? Maybe in the US?

We could text 12,000 people per day if we wanted to. Our labs would not do anything else anymore but we could

You have to remember, the US is a third world country that thinks it's still a first world country.

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Reply #130 on: March 16, 2020, 04:56:55 PM

The wife and I both developed tightness in the chest and she's got a scratchy throat, so far, no fevers or anything else. We're also worried we're being overly paranoid but better safe than sorry.
It's also allergy season now (at least around here) so that's not helping.
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Reply #131 on: March 16, 2020, 05:12:17 PM

It's also allergy season now (at least around here) so that's not helping.

This right here... I've been sneezing and randomly coughing every day for the past 2 weeks or so and each time it makes me wonder. Last week going to work on the bus, it was all I could do not to cough on the bus and raise suspicion.  Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #132 on: March 16, 2020, 05:19:54 PM

I've been trying out the latest and greatest ramen place* near me since they opened in February and hot soups in general and spicy hot soups in particular give me a runny nose. So people have been looking at me funny while I'm blowing my nose awesome, for real

* they don't / didn't do take out so I skipped last week and they better change that policy if they want to stay in business
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Reply #133 on: March 16, 2020, 05:58:40 PM

Ireland has announced that it is expecting a 30% increase in C-19 cases per day. Total of 223 cases right now.

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Reply #134 on: March 16, 2020, 06:04:55 PM

Although there have been runs on larger stores in Minnesota our little local grocery store has been immune.  At least until today.  Bread, milk, chicken, ham, eggs, wiped out.  There was some more expensive beef left so I bought that.

This is first time in my 60 year old life I have experienced anything like this.
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Reply #135 on: March 16, 2020, 06:10:44 PM

I've had only something similar (though on a very minor level comparatively) when prepping for hurricanes when I was in Miami. Though there is always the running joke of "getting the bread and milk" when the forecast calls for snow around Pittsburgh, this is so much worse.

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Reply #136 on: March 16, 2020, 08:34:43 PM

We're coming off a bad flue season, too, and there are some colds that have been circulating.

I went to the store for the first time in a while, her mom needs a restock and so did I. It's...bad. Paper goods aisle completely empty. Meat bunker and butcher counter...completely empty except for a couple steaks, no frozen veg outside the vegan section (edamame, kale, etc). No hand soap, sanitizer, even stuff like bandaids (??) were devastated. And everything is hit hard, most items are low stock, many completely out. Bread, for instance, there were about 10 loaves of pumpernickel and the same of various ryes...everything else was gone.

The odd thing, though...it's almost all dumb white people stuff. Chicken, steaks, white bread, yogurt, water.

I just shifted gears and stocked up on things that were in good supply, some steelhead filets, frozen shrimp and scallops, chuck roast (no burgers of any kind...but 4 chuck roasts? I have burgers now), etc. Bad time to have a shitty palate, good time if you like to cook?

Main thing is no TP, that's going to be shitty (sorry). I should be ok, but the fiancee her mom (our concern as always) use that plush tp that doesn't last very long...luckily I use old fashioned stuff that goes the distance! Problem is, if this situation doesn't get fixed soon (rationing needs to be mandatory for paper goods, hygiene products, and stuff like milk/water/meats/veg, etc).

So stupid and avoidable.
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Reply #137 on: March 16, 2020, 08:38:33 PM

Holy shit. From my parents who are visiting a town a few hours north. Identifying details removed. I last saw them on Saturday.

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We are fine. Unfortunately we have been in contact with someone with Corona virus on Monday morning at [activity] and were not advised until 30 minutes ago. The others in the group just heard today too. [Name] let the health authorities know and I now have the email.  Isolation until [date] March. We are not sure whether to go home or not. I would like to. Anyway no signs of it yet, but we have been in contact with lots of people at the supermarket and [name] and [name] and more!

Their doctor has summoned them home and will swab them in his car park.

Update: they're getting swab results tomorrow (Monday Aussie time). They're still not sick, but one person who was in their group has got sick so it' s pretty close thing. Delivered groceries to their doorstep yesterday and waved through the window. Actually happy to see them going through this now, as they'll definitely get treatment if it happens, and they're protected from the virusy world [unless I turn out to be sick and gave it to them via the groceries].

Update: my parents tested negative. Phew. They've still gotta complete the 2-week quarantine, which is actually peace of mind for me because it protects them... Give it another week and a bit, we'll probably all be in lockdown.

Work conducted our fortnightly all-staff meeting via Zoom today. There were three people in the office and everyone else in various combinations of pyjamas and smart clothes donned for the meeting. I shaved specially, for the first time in four days.
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Reply #138 on: March 16, 2020, 08:47:27 PM

The TP thing was a bit of hysteria triggered by an actual shortage in a few SE Asian countries that rippled all the way to Australia, then turned into a classic panic buying situation: You had to overbuy if you found it, because if you didn't, you couldn't know when it would be reliably available again.

Most of it is just that buying a two weeks to a month's worth of food at once is something most people don't do, most people only have a few days to a week worth of food at home. Buying 3 packs of hamburger instead of 1, spread across enough people, turns into a stripped bare meat counter when people start seeing the shortages. Beyond that, overbuying was something affirmative you could do to prepare, give people a sense of control in a situation that is completely out of their control.

I've always tended to have more food reserves than most, so most of my prep was on things that I would never have normally bought, and was done mostly weeks in advance. But someone who only woke up to this in the last week, what else can they do? The masks are gone, the sanitizer and disinfectant is gone, all that's left is food (and toilet paper).

That being said, I'm glad I remembered that oxygen concentrators need distilled water, because people desperate to buy bottled water (which is pointless) are buying it up.

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Reply #139 on: March 16, 2020, 09:37:08 PM

all that's left is food

The fucking terrifying situation in the local Aldi today. Freezer section and meat section. This will drive more panic buying when stock comes in.



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