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Reply #210 on: July 02, 2019, 06:43:53 PM

Resaw it. The extras are very lame and you shouldn't go for that reason. We just went to see it a second time, that's all. Which was fun. It's a pretty satisfying film on a second view.
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Reply #211 on: July 02, 2019, 11:50:11 PM

We'll see in a month or so whether SM:FFH ignores the 5 years, dismisses it in a line or two, discusses it throughout as meaningless background noise/exposition, or whether it informs the storyline(s) meaningfully. 
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Reply #212 on: July 03, 2019, 08:21:34 AM

There are at least vague hints of how it might be a more complicated and difficult thing in other MCU movies that are comfortable with darker emotional tonality, too. It's kind of too bad that the Netflix series have ended, because they could have really done some good stuff with the Blip.
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Reply #213 on: July 03, 2019, 12:50:50 PM

When refering to a possible future for the Netflix series, Feige recently said they love the characters, that they have contractual issues (the 18 to 24 month wait), but that saying anything else would be a spoiler.  That implies a future.  I'm betting we get Daredevil with Charlie Cox back in some form, and that there is a Heroes for Hire series that picks up the lives of these characters, post blip, and continues their stories (possibly with some recasting of certain people that have said that they are done with their characters).

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Reply #214 on: July 03, 2019, 12:54:36 PM

Regarding how people returned after the blip...
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Reply #215 on: July 03, 2019, 03:35:05 PM

That was pretty much played for laughs, but you know, you do you.

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Reply #216 on: July 03, 2019, 05:07:32 PM

I think in this case you can imagine that maybe it wouldn't be as much for laughs in another vehicle. It's actually a pretty good story engine for the future if they feel like sticking to it.
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Reply #217 on: July 04, 2019, 09:47:00 PM

That was pretty much played for laughs, but you know, you do you.

You mean a b storyline was comedic?  Someone call the Movie Police.

They worked it into a lot of the movie. They could have told the exact same story and excluded all references to it. Thus, it was in that middle zone.

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Reply #218 on: July 30, 2019, 10:17:17 AM

Still wondering if Gamora is alive?

Yes, as shown by an Endgame deleted scene.

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Reply #219 on: October 04, 2019, 06:44:06 AM

Finally saw it yesterday and found it largely meh. It was mostly OK but establishing the "world after the snap" took way too long and not long enough at the same time. So there wasn't that much time left to make the actual heist movie part and the climactic fight at the end work well because the world building took so long. At the same time the movie didn't have enough time to really flesh out how the world had changed during the last five years.

The ending is Fallout 3 levels of stupid though. It's even the same stupid setup with a radiation immune green guy that somehow can't use the glove for plot reasons so that RDJ can die a heroic death. Also the whole plot hinges on Strange giving his stone to Thanos so that monk Tilda Swinton gives it to smart Hulk and not her universe version of Dr. Strange for reasons that aren't explained at all.

It#s still an OK end to something that is almost impossible to wrap up anyway
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Reply #220 on: October 04, 2019, 08:35:17 AM

The ending is Fallout 3 levels of stupid though. It's even the same stupid setup with a radiation immune green guy that somehow can't use the glove for plot reasons so that RDJ can die a heroic death. Also the whole plot hinges on Strange giving his stone to Thanos so that monk Tilda Swinton gives it to smart Hulk and not her universe version of Dr. Strange for reasons that aren't explained at all.
She gave it to hulk temporarily on the promise he'd bring it back (Which cap did).  So she still gave it to Strange in her own timeline.

And the reasons seemed pretty clear on the glove.  It uses so much power that even with the glove, only a super strong being can wield it.  Thanos using it twice almost killed him, and they showed that his arm was super fucked up after using it the second time.  Hulk, who is weaker than Thanos, was able to do it, but it fucked him up pretty bad in the process and likely would kill him on a second go.  Then Thanos attacked, and everybody played hot potato with the stones till Stark was positioned in a small window to steal and use the stones. 

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