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The official trailer came out the other day. NSFW warning: It's the redband trailer, so some gore and swearing. https://youtu.be/H0VW6sg50PkLooks ok, I suppose. At least it's not written by Lindelof. In any case, it's an Alien film, so I'll go see it.
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Sir T
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My problem with the trailer is that it basically is assuming that we have all forgotten about the Alien and that ship and facehugger is a big mystery. That bloody ship would be a radioactive crater by now, and certainly nobody would be going into it alone. I actually think it would work better these days if an Alien invasion was going on in the background as the audience knows what's going on. Its a bit like trying to make a Zombie Apocalypse a big mystery, it just wont work
It actually reminds me a bit of an old Alien ripoff movie called "Leviathan," where the monster was people turning into the creatures due to a disease experiment gone wrong. Or they could be going all "The Thing" here.
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I was expecting a sequel to Prometheus but instead this movie looks like a sequel to Alien or even Aliens instead of a sequel to Prometheus or prequel to Alien.
Okay that's confusing let's try it like this.
Was expecting:
Prometheus -> Alien: Convenant -> <Unamed 3rd in Prometheus trilogy> -> Alien
Instead trailer looks like:
Prometheus -> Alien -> Alien: Convenant
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Prometheus -> Alien -> Aliens -> Alien: Convenant
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Yeah, I'm not even sure the producers/directors/writers know when any of this shit is set in relation to the other movies.
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I'll go see it because I'm a sucker. Just like I was when I went to see Prometheus. Yeah...the continuity is strange and I don't expect this to actually be good. On the off chance that it is though, I want to be there to see it.
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Trippy has got me thinking about Alien nuns.
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Looks like a mess overall. Why can't directors understand why Alien was so damn good... suspense > gore/action.
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Gore is easy. CGI is easy.
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This looks crap.
This coming from someone who likes Prometheus.
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It's meant to be the sequel to Prometheus. The android is the same David as Prometheus. No we don't know why or how and I expect as much dumb scientist action as we got from Prometheus.
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Looks like a reboot/remake of Alien more than anything...?
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Looks like a reboot/remake of Alien more than anything...?
That was my impression too, yes.
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eh
I could've sworn Prometheus -> Covenant -----Alien----------->
I thought there was crossover
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There's supposed to be 4 movies before Alien (not 3 like I implied above). http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/ridley-scott-alien-covenant-is-first-3-films-before-linking-up-original-alien-844051Ridley Scott confirmed that he is planning another two Prometheus sequels to follow Alien: Covenant before the Prometheus storyline meets up with the original 1979 Alien.
Alien: Covenant and the following two films will be origin stories, answering the “very basic questions posed in Alien: why the alien, who might have made it and where did it come from?” Scott revealed at a press conference in Sydney where he is starting pre-production on Covenant, the first sequel to Prometheus.
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There's supposed to be 4 movies before Alien (not 3 like I implied above). http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/ridley-scott-alien-covenant-is-first-3-films-before-linking-up-original-alien-844051Ridley Scott confirmed that he is planning another two Prometheus sequels to follow Alien: Covenant before the Prometheus storyline meets up with the original 1979 Alien.
Alien: Covenant and the following two films will be origin stories, answering the “very basic questions posed in Alien: why the alien, who might have made it and where did it come from?” Scott revealed at a press conference in Sydney where he is starting pre-production on Covenant, the first sequel to Prometheus.
Here's the problem. I don't need to know the answer to any of those questions. I liked the mystery. I liked imagining it. Once you explain things, it loses the intrique. See: Star Wars prequels, horror remakes which give villains back stories, etc.
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I'm not sure that is the issue.
Nobody gave a shit how planet of the apes came to be, but that didn't stop a decent film being made.
The problem here isn't that they keep making films about questions that don't need answering, the problem is that all sequels bar Aliens just seek to remake the original film without adding any new idea of value.
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I'm not sure that is the issue.
Nobody gave a shit how planet of the apes came to be, but that didn't stop a decent film being made.
The problem here isn't that they keep making films about questions that don't need answering, the problem is that all sequels bar Aliens just seek to remake the original film without adding any new idea of value.
Too much flash and 'splosions in the new ones, not enough suspense of the first. Sequels will never be able to capture the atmosphere of Alien. Can't have people imagining things... gotta have pictures.
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So the prologue to the sequel of a prequel.
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Another full trailer dropped yesterday. A little bit more background on the crew and a full view of the Xenomorph you've probably already seen plastered all over the place. Still looks exciting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svnAD0TApb8
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Another full trailer dropped yesterday. A little bit more background on the crew and a full view of the Xenomorph you've probably already seen plastered all over the place. Still looks exciting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svnAD0TApb8Still too bright and flashy. I'm for the Alien tradition of dark and foreboding atmosphere... not just a few dark rooms. I'll probably see this at some point, but not in a theater.
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Land on alien planet. Walk around without helmet on.
Don't forget that if you see something opening up that looks like a mouth and/or snake and/or penis and/or vagina to inspect it as closely as possible with your unprotected face.
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People are a lot dumber and less cautious than you really think. Just reading /r/OSHA is enough to teach you this, so I find that part COMPLETELY believable in this movie. They're random space hippies, not scientists who should have been trained better.
I mean, there's at least one story a month of an idiot who looks down the barrel of a loaded weapon to see if it's jammed. Again, people who should know better doing dumb shit.
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Hah. Same thing happened to me when I found it.
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Horrific writing aside, which I've felt to be pretty much a hallmark of the Alien franchise, what he likes about the series is precisely what I disliked about the series. That it wasn't about the aliens and their world and history, but rather about the characters.
So uh, heavy handed philosophical horseshit aside, he basically just further endorsed the movie for me.
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Personally, I only ever gave a shit about the aliens. I even rooted for them on original veiwings.
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I wish the guy mountain climbing with James Franco had been Seth Rogen.
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schild
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These guys said exactly what I was saying. "They didn't dig Sigourney Weaver out from the crypt and shove her in front of a camera." Also, they liked everything up until the end also. The entire series suffers (outside of maybe Alien) from a disease that causes the last act to be shit. Especially 3 and Resurrection (and I guess, now, Covenant).
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Personally I thought the whole movie kinda sucked, not just the end.
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