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on: December 26, 2016, 08:02:59 PM

The official trailer came out the other day.

NSFW warning:  It's the redband trailer, so some gore and swearing.

https://youtu.be/H0VW6sg50Pk

Looks ok, I suppose. At least it's not written by Lindelof. In any case, it's an Alien film, so I'll go see it.

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Reply #1 on: December 26, 2016, 09:00:33 PM

My problem with the trailer is that it basically is assuming that we have all forgotten about the Alien and that ship and facehugger is a big mystery. That bloody ship would be a radioactive crater by now, and certainly nobody would be going into it alone. I actually think it would work better these days if an Alien invasion was going on in the background as the audience knows what's going on. Its a bit like trying to make a Zombie Apocalypse a big mystery, it just wont work

It actually reminds me a bit of an old Alien ripoff movie called "Leviathan," where the monster was people turning into the creatures due to a disease experiment gone wrong. Or they could be going all "The Thing" here.
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Reply #2 on: December 26, 2016, 09:08:45 PM

I was expecting a sequel to Prometheus but instead this movie looks like a sequel to Alien or even Aliens instead of a sequel to Prometheus or prequel to Alien.

Okay that's confusing let's try it like this.

Was expecting:

Prometheus -> Alien: Convenant -> <Unamed 3rd in Prometheus trilogy> -> Alien

Instead trailer looks like:

Prometheus -> Alien -> Alien: Convenant

or

Prometheus -> Alien -> Aliens -> Alien: Convenant

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Reply #3 on: December 26, 2016, 09:37:41 PM

Yeah, I'm not even sure the producers/directors/writers know when any of this shit is set in relation to the other movies.

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Reply #4 on: December 26, 2016, 09:46:57 PM

I'll go see it because I'm a sucker.  Just like I was when I went to see Prometheus.  Yeah...the continuity is strange and I don't expect this to actually be good.  On the off chance that it is though, I want to be there to see it.

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Reply #5 on: December 27, 2016, 06:08:21 AM

Trippy has got me thinking about Alien nuns.   why so serious?

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Reply #6 on: December 27, 2016, 06:51:15 AM

Looks like a mess overall. Why can't directors understand why Alien was so damn good... suspense > gore/action.

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Reply #7 on: December 27, 2016, 07:04:55 AM

Gore is easy. CGI is easy.

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Reply #8 on: December 27, 2016, 07:05:35 AM

This looks crap.

This coming from someone who likes Prometheus.

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Reply #9 on: December 27, 2016, 08:16:03 AM

It's meant to be the sequel to Prometheus. The android is the same David as Prometheus.  No we don't know why or how and I expect as much dumb scientist action as we got from Prometheus. 

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Reply #10 on: December 27, 2016, 09:01:51 AM

Looks like a reboot/remake of Alien more than anything...?

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Reply #11 on: December 27, 2016, 10:24:23 AM

Looks like a reboot/remake of Alien more than anything...?

That was my impression too, yes.

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Reply #12 on: December 27, 2016, 12:11:44 PM

eh

I could've sworn Prometheus -> Covenant
                                                  -----Alien----------->

I thought there was crossover
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Reply #13 on: December 27, 2016, 12:42:24 PM

There's supposed to be 4 movies before Alien (not 3 like I implied above).

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/ridley-scott-alien-covenant-is-first-3-films-before-linking-up-original-alien-844051

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Ridley Scott confirmed that he is planning another two Prometheus sequels to follow Alien: Covenant before the Prometheus storyline meets up with the original 1979 Alien.

Alien: Covenant and the following two films will be origin stories, answering the “very basic questions posed in Alien: why the alien, who might have made it and where did it come from?” Scott revealed at a press conference in Sydney where he is starting pre-production on Covenant, the first sequel to Prometheus.
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Reply #14 on: January 09, 2017, 08:45:11 PM

There's supposed to be 4 movies before Alien (not 3 like I implied above).

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/ridley-scott-alien-covenant-is-first-3-films-before-linking-up-original-alien-844051

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Ridley Scott confirmed that he is planning another two Prometheus sequels to follow Alien: Covenant before the Prometheus storyline meets up with the original 1979 Alien.

Alien: Covenant and the following two films will be origin stories, answering the “very basic questions posed in Alien: why the alien, who might have made it and where did it come from?” Scott revealed at a press conference in Sydney where he is starting pre-production on Covenant, the first sequel to Prometheus.

Here's the problem. I don't need to know the answer to any of those questions. I liked the mystery. I liked imagining it. Once you explain things, it loses the intrique. See: Star Wars prequels, horror remakes which give villains back stories, etc.

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Reply #15 on: January 10, 2017, 01:26:31 PM

I'm not sure that is the issue.

Nobody gave a shit how planet of the apes came to be, but that didn't stop a decent film being made.

The problem here isn't that they keep making films about questions that don't need answering, the problem is that all sequels bar Aliens just seek to remake the original film without adding any new idea of value.

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Reply #16 on: January 10, 2017, 01:59:53 PM

I'm not sure that is the issue.

Nobody gave a shit how planet of the apes came to be, but that didn't stop a decent film being made.

The problem here isn't that they keep making films about questions that don't need answering, the problem is that all sequels bar Aliens just seek to remake the original film without adding any new idea of value.

Too much flash and 'splosions in the new ones, not enough suspense of the first. Sequels will never be able to capture the atmosphere of Alien. Can't have people imagining things... gotta have pictures.

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Reply #18 on: February 24, 2017, 01:06:55 AM

So the prologue to the sequel of a prequel.
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Reply #19 on: February 24, 2017, 09:16:07 AM

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Reply #20 on: March 01, 2017, 12:50:58 PM

Another full trailer dropped yesterday. A little bit more background on the crew and a full view of the Xenomorph you've probably already seen plastered all over the place. Still looks exciting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svnAD0TApb8
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Reply #21 on: March 01, 2017, 03:39:47 PM

Another full trailer dropped yesterday. A little bit more background on the crew and a full view of the Xenomorph you've probably already seen plastered all over the place. Still looks exciting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svnAD0TApb8

Still too bright and flashy. I'm for the Alien tradition of dark and foreboding atmosphere... not just a few dark rooms. I'll probably see this at some point, but not in a theater.

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Reply #22 on: March 02, 2017, 05:34:48 PM

Land on alien planet. Walk around without helmet on.


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Reply #23 on: March 06, 2017, 11:54:28 AM

Land on alien planet. Walk around without helmet on.

Don't forget that if you see something opening up that looks like a mouth and/or snake and/or penis and/or vagina to inspect it as closely as possible with your unprotected face.

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Reply #24 on: March 06, 2017, 11:57:24 AM

People are a lot dumber and less cautious than you really think. Just reading /r/OSHA is enough to teach you this, so I find that part COMPLETELY believable in this movie. They're random space hippies, not scientists who should have been trained better.

I mean, there's at least one story a month of an idiot who looks down the barrel of a loaded weapon to see if it's jammed. Again, people who should know better doing dumb shit.

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Reply #25 on: March 06, 2017, 03:12:16 PM

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Reply #26 on: March 06, 2017, 09:35:48 PM

Hah. Same thing happened to me when I found it.

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Reply #27 on: May 12, 2017, 12:05:05 PM

"The Da Vinci code in space"

https://youtu.be/b79aw9dZLfE

So a pass I guess.

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Reply #28 on: May 12, 2017, 02:58:05 PM

Horrific writing aside, which I've felt to be pretty much a hallmark of the Alien franchise, what he likes about the series is precisely what I disliked about the series. That it wasn't about the aliens and their world and history, but rather about the characters.

So uh, heavy handed philosophical horseshit aside, he basically just further endorsed the movie for me.
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Reply #29 on: May 13, 2017, 09:28:56 AM

Personally, I only ever gave a shit about the aliens. I even rooted for them on original veiwings.

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Reply #30 on: May 19, 2017, 03:36:47 PM

I wish the guy mountain climbing with James Franco had been Seth Rogen.

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Reply #32 on: May 21, 2017, 02:42:43 PM

Angry Joe Review, Spoiler free TL DR He hates it.

http://Angry Joe Review - Spoilers & Discussion

"Midnight screenings" review Contains Spoilers. One of them really loved the first 2 acts. The other didnt much care for them but they both agreed that the third act threw the WTF meter into the red. They think this is R Scott's middle finger to everyone "OK, assholes, this is what you wanted! Enjoy!"

Mr H Review - Spoiler free Le loves it. Thinks its a great action movie with great performances from everyone.

Everyone agrees that the cinematography is fantastic, and in general the performances were good.
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Reply #33 on: May 21, 2017, 02:52:58 PM


These guys said exactly what I was saying.

"They didn't dig Sigourney Weaver out from the crypt and shove her in front of a camera."

Also, they liked everything up until the end also.

The entire series suffers (outside of maybe Alien) from a disease that causes the last act to be shit. Especially 3 and Resurrection (and I guess, now, Covenant).
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Reply #34 on: May 21, 2017, 04:56:55 PM

Personally I thought the whole movie kinda sucked, not just the end.
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