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Reply #35 on: April 08, 2016, 06:29:58 AM

Pity Kyle Katarn and Jan Ors got retconned out, though some of the characters look to be acceptable replacements.

A lot of Star Wars fans seem to believe that the main character in this is inspired by Jan Ors. Her name is even really close: Jyn Erso. Similar to how Ben Solo/ Kylo Ren is totally a combination of Luke and Mara Jade's kid (Ben Skywalker) and Anakin Solo.

If this is how they're going to reuse the Legends stuff I'm a-ok with it. As soon as you DO have a character named Kyle Katarn or Jan Ors you'll have vocal fanboys declaring that "this better mean that <terrible idea> is also part of the lore!" There's no need to pull the actual character names and all the baggage they'll have into the world.

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Reply #36 on: April 08, 2016, 08:29:37 AM

I'm hoping for a character called Kyle Thrawn.  He will be a tactically brilliant Jedi who also really fucking gets art.

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Reply #37 on: April 08, 2016, 05:50:01 PM

And blue.

Wash does not seem at all like Han Solo to me.

Cocky quippy pilot of a somewhat run down smuggler spaceship?  Yeah no similarities whatsoever.   awesome, for real  Although I'll grant that Wash is a very dorky version of the trope whereas Han is more suave.

Oh come on. Nathan Fillion was Han Solo. He could pilot, but more importantly he was the antiestablishment leader smuggler pirate. Wash doesn't really have a close analogy. Maybe Nien Nunb, but in canon we kinda don't know anything about him.
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Reply #38 on: April 08, 2016, 07:02:41 PM

I think Wash could be more like Wedge or in the new movie Poe Dameron.  However Mal definitely isn't the Pilot that Han was. 
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Reply #39 on: April 08, 2016, 07:03:45 PM

Right, but that's what I was thinking too--Han Solo is not the dude who pilots for someone else, whatever else he is.
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Reply #40 on: April 08, 2016, 07:48:22 PM

Chewie is actually the pilot.

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Reply #41 on: April 08, 2016, 07:53:12 PM

Chewie is definitely the copilot.
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Reply #42 on: April 08, 2016, 10:13:14 PM

Naw, Chewie was the pilot.  He just was just humoring Han and let Han think what he wanted.  But Chewie was in control.

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Reply #43 on: April 09, 2016, 12:59:58 AM

Chewie doesn't sit in the correct seat to be pilot. I have never met a pilot who would be willing to sit on the right unless acting as copilot. Not even for a life debt.

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Reply #44 on: April 09, 2016, 02:10:44 AM

Fleeing the Death Star. Who's flying, who's shooting. Boom. Lawyered.

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Reply #45 on: April 09, 2016, 02:31:24 AM

Fleeing the Death Star. Who's flying, who's shooting. Boom. Lawyered.


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CHEWBACCA

A legendary Wookiee warrior and Han Solo’s co-pilot aboard the Millennium Falcon, Chewbacca was part of a core group of Rebels who restored freedom to the galaxy.
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Reply #46 on: April 09, 2016, 02:33:30 AM

Pfft., fuck those nerds. It's all on the screen, yo.

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Reply #47 on: April 09, 2016, 07:34:01 AM

Pfft., fuck those nerds. It's all on the screen, yo.
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Reply #48 on: April 09, 2016, 10:27:17 AM

Pfft., fuck those nerds. It's all on the screen, yo.

You also have to remember they are English... What side do English drivers sit on?

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Reply #49 on: April 09, 2016, 11:36:44 AM

Is this possibly the story of how the rebels got the plans to the original Deathstar?

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Reply #50 on: April 09, 2016, 11:45:05 AM

Is this possibly the story of how the rebels got the plans to the original Deathstar?

That is exactly what this is about. 
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Reply #51 on: April 09, 2016, 12:59:45 PM

Pfft., fuck those nerds. It's all on the screen, yo.

You also have to remember they are English... What side do English drivers sit on?

Doesn't matter, pilot in command is the same all over the world, whether you drive cars the left side or the wrong side of the road.

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Reply #52 on: April 09, 2016, 01:57:51 PM

Pfft., fuck those nerds. It's all on the screen, yo.

You also have to remember they are English... What side do English drivers sit on?

Doesn't matter, pilot in command is the same all over the world, whether you drive cars the left side or the wrong side of the road.

Obviously relevant in another galaxy.  Ohhhhh, I see.
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Reply #53 on: April 09, 2016, 03:38:11 PM

The shadowy darthy looking guy is going to be the Emperor's new apprentice Snoke before Darth Vader fucks him up when the Emperor tells him to kill Vader and take his place.

Also, creepy as fuck Mark Hamill it the little interview thing at the end. This sums it up perfectly.

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Reply #54 on: April 09, 2016, 06:47:21 PM

Oh, Hamill is brilliant there. Watch that follow-up video that's linked from the trailer.

Mark's a funny motherfucker.

Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something.  We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Reply #55 on: April 10, 2016, 05:00:26 AM

He tweeted that he promises that he also doesn't have any dialogue in Rogue One.
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Reply #56 on: April 10, 2016, 06:14:59 AM

I hope the rebels have some tanks to counter those AT-ATs

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Reply #57 on: April 10, 2016, 06:39:50 AM

They don't need them.  They have already figured out how to counter AT-ATs.

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Reply #58 on: April 10, 2016, 10:38:16 AM


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Reply #59 on: April 10, 2016, 11:45:51 AM

Might as well post the original:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC0keDGobck

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Reply #60 on: April 10, 2016, 02:19:51 PM

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Reply #61 on: April 10, 2016, 03:34:07 PM

So cute and genuinely funny :)

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Reply #62 on: April 10, 2016, 04:02:51 PM

Ok, now recreate this one:

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Reply #63 on: May 17, 2016, 01:36:43 AM

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Reply #64 on: May 17, 2016, 05:24:19 AM

My bet's on the little furry guy being a Bothan.

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Reply #65 on: June 01, 2016, 01:46:44 AM

Reshoot time! Sounds like test audiences didn't like the movie.

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Reply #66 on: June 01, 2016, 02:23:08 AM

So, does Manny Bothans die? He's gonna be my favourite character.

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Reply #67 on: June 01, 2016, 05:16:47 AM

I hope they don't try to make it completely tonally like the main movies. I'm ok if it's a bit more serious/war-movie like.
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Reply #68 on: June 01, 2016, 05:29:49 AM

At it's core, Rogue One still fits the action genre and you just can't have a super grimdark action movie or it'll feel like a slog just to watch.  I mean they could definitely go overboard and lighten the tone too much but I'm cautiously optimistic that they are just trying to avoid Snyderizing star wars.

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Reply #69 on: June 01, 2016, 05:43:23 AM

That and it's Disney so they're likely aiming for PG/ soft PG-13. The darkest movie has been Revenge of the Sith, and nothing is going to be darker than that with the slaughter of first graders and the onscreen murder of a 15/ 16 year-old.

The Vader scene was described as "very dark and brutal" more befitting a hard PG-13 into R movie. No way that was going to fly.

That said, yeah, there's reshoots. No big surprise, as has been pointed out with other movies they reshoot/ re-edit almost up until the day of release now. Think of it as Day-0 patches for games. Digital distribution has altered workflows such that deadlines are closer to release dates now. Humanity generally works to deadlines, we're short-sighted that way. why so serious?

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