The Flash

[Tannhauser]

I only knew her because I recognized her name in the opening credits.

[NowhereMan]

Am I the only sap that hopes we'll discover Well's "soul" or whatever was absorbed as well as his looks and memories and that he'll come back somehow?

You are not the only one I like him as a character and actor.

My guess is there's an inverse relationship between speed force and which personality is dominant (i.e.,  > speed = thawne, < speed = Wells). This doesn't seem like Arrow where they set up a conspiracy for an entire season and then the hero finds out in the end. But just a guess. I don't go deep into the comic book stuff. This kind of show doesn't go that deep except for bit parts for fan service.

Honestly I think there's a chance that Well's memories are somehow stored on some future doohickey or time-wimey stuff brings him back but from how he's acted I don't think there's a 'Wells' personality in there. The man's dead and Thawne used his future tech to steal his body via DNA copying or something. Nothing they've shown suggests anything other than Thawne being either a self-centred person who's talked themselves into total sociopathy because 'everyone's been dead for centuries' or being an actual sociopath who's been forced to act along with others so much he's either having real feelings awakened or he's realising that there are other, effective ways of interacting with people other than being an evil moustache twirling villain.

[jgsugden]

Bee Girl was Walking Dead Girl.

And it annoyed me how many minutes it took me to figure it out.  Maybe Superman Glasses ARE a good disguise.

Dude, I didn't recognize her at all until you said that and I looked it up. Superman glasses, indeed.

It wasn't just the glasses ... she was hardly on screen in the episode.  I don't know if she had a full minute of screen time during the entire episode, and each shot on her was very short it seemed.

[Khaldun]

The thing is that Thawne in the comics was always undermotivated in almost the same way that Kang the Conqueror over at Marvel was. "Oh, I'm bored in my future time where things are basically good, I read about criminals and conquerors and that sounds great, I think I need a time machine". Over time they worked to give Thawne more personal motivation: he had the hots for Iris, no wait his whole family had a centuries-long feud with the Allen family, etc.  Eventually Waid just decided to reboot the whole thing by making a new "Reverse-Flash" with a very different motivation (basically hating Wally West for not using his powers to help in that ridiculous super villainy sense of "help" + a desire to make the Flash better by giving him better motivation (e.g., killing people who matter to him). Even that didn't last.

They're going to need to give this Reverse-Flash a real reason for doing what he does beyond "he is the bad guy".

[Tannhauser]

Good episode last night. 

[HaemishM]

They really are knocking this thing out of the park. I didn't have any problem with the dream machine - it was TV/comic-booky scienc-y stuff that I can easily hand wave away to move the plot along.

[jgsugden]

The glasses on the dream machine - did you notice the look of the glasses?

[HaemishM]

I did - very Carmine Infantino. I can't recall exactly which character they remind me of but they definitely rang a bell.

[Lakov_Sanite]

What I should have thought of before but was eerily disturbing...

[jgsugden]

I did - very Carmine Infantino. I can't recall exactly which character they remind me of but they definitely rang a bell.

[Ironwood]

I'd rather just check out Danielle Panabaker, to be honest.

[Khaldun]

[Evildrider]

[HaemishM]

[Khaldun]

Look, whatever else, Tom fucking Cavanaugh is absolutely knocking this shit out of the park. This would be an ok show without him, but man he is making it into something more. If you'd asked me five years ago, "Could the Reverse-Flash appear as a regular character in a relatively cheap adaptation of the Flash and be anything but fucking stupid" I would have said, no, that could not happen, it would be stupid. And yet Cavanaugh has made the character into an instant-Top Ten comic-book enemies ever.

[Ironwood]

That Mystique Dude episode was fucking 

Really, really retarded.

[Threash]

Starting to feel seriously shitty about all the crap they put Eddie through, dude has been nothing but a perfect boyfriend, cop and friend and he's pretty much guaranteed to get fucked over in the end.

[jgsugden]

Well, considering that the obvious answer to ending the Reverse Flash threat is a supersonic nut punch that leaves him barren...

[MediumHigh]

Someone shoot Iris. Please oh god please.

[HaemishM]

You know, I was getting a bit annoyed by her whining in this episode but really... she does actually have a point. If everybody in my life was lying to me about all this shit, for whatever the good reasons they had, I'd get a little pissed too.

[jgsugden]

I'm really curious about how the finales of Arrow and Flash interplay - from the promos it seems like Arrow's takes place before Flash in their universe, but after in ours.

[Evildrider]

It's cuz the episodes are out of sync.  Flash is supposed to happen before arrow, but right now it's the other way around.  At least that's what i remember from an article a month or so ago.

[Evildrider]

Ok so this Flash episode does take place before tomorrow's Arrow.

Also another good episode here. 

[Lakov_Sanite]

So, Oliver ziplined all the way from namda parbat?

[HaemishM]

With as much as people have been zipping back and forth between Starling and Namda Parbat in the last 2 episodes, they might as well be the same place. 

[Khaldun]

Seriously, they just need to say, "Nanda Parbat is actually the name of the Chinese restaurant about ten miles outside of Starling, the League of Assassins HQ is just beyond that a little ways."

[Evildrider]

So they kinda confirmed the movie Flash is going to be Barry Allen.  I swear if they fuck with this show as much as they have Arrow, there will be blood.

[Tannhauser]

Seriously, they just need to say, "Nanda Parbat is actually the name of the Chinese restaurant about ten miles outside of Starling, the League of Assassins HQ is just beyond that a little ways."

I was thinking Starling City was LA and Nanda Parbat was located on Catalina Island. 

As for zip lining, Arrow can actually fly, but he has to activate his power by shooting a zip line up into the sky.  Seriously, he sometimes just shoots it up into the sky and takes off.  LIKE A BOSS.

[Evildrider]

As for zip lining, Arrow can actually fly, but he has to activate his power by shooting a zip line up into the sky.  Seriously, he sometimes just shoots it up into the sky and takes off.  LIKE A BOSS.

He learned it from Spidey!

[Riggswolfe]

So they kinda confirmed the movie Flash is going to be Barry Allen.  I swear if they fuck with this show as much as they have Arrow, there will be blood.

I'll be right there with you ready to cut a fucker. Seriously, the Flash TV show is my favorite Super Hero tv show on the air now, and maybe ever.

[Lakov_Sanite]

HOLY FUCK 

[Tannhauser]

[Threash]

Eddie, baller as fuck.

[Khaldun]

Telegraphed pretty clearly early on--and actually folks here sort of saw it coming if you read back in the comments. But, well, hm, now what? I did notice that

[Fordel]

Why would anyone, ever, in a million billion years, do anything the bad guy suggested.