Khaldun
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Ok, but all that I gather is now irrelevant. Canon is: the movies and Clone Wars. That's it. Even what His Holiness Lucas the First has said means absolutely fuck all at this point (thank goodness).
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Merusk
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Ok, but all that I gather is now irrelevant. Canon is: the movies and Clone Wars. That's it. Even what His Holiness Lucas the First has said means absolutely fuck all at this point (thank goodness).
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Are the Ewok movies canon?
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Soulflame
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What Ewok movies. There are no Ewok movies.
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Id probably watch that over Attack of the Clones..  |
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Numtini
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I remain shocked that everyone doesn't put Revenge Return of the Jedi in the same category as the prequels. The movie was crap and Ewoks should be exterminated.
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I don't know, I thought it was great minus the Ewoks.
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Numtini
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I don't know, I thought it was great minus the Ewoks.
The rescue is fine. I disliked the weird passive woo-woo jedi stuff with Luke refusing to fight. The other half of the movie is little more than an advertisement for Ewok Happy Meals. We could have had Wookies ripping stormtroops arms off. That doesn't sell happy meals though. |
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Return of the Jedi is garbage. Luke becomes a douche. Ewoks everywhere. Yub-Nub ending.
I'd start from Empire and end it the right way.
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Shannow
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Pet hate of mine is people raging on about how much they 'hated' Return of the Jedi and how only cool ppl like up to ESB.
Fuck off, it was fucking great. Ewoks and all. Man enough to admit it.
Comparing Return to the prequels? Take your head out of your ass.
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Samwise
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Pet hate of mine is people raging on about how much they 'hated' Return of the Jedi and how only cool ppl like up to ESB.
Fuck off, it was fucking great. Ewoks and all. Man enough to admit it.
Comparing Return to the prequels? Take your head out of your ass.
+1 It's the weakest of the OT but nowhere near prequel levels of suck. |
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Kail
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Return of the Jedi is garbage. Luke becomes a douche. Ewoks everywhere. Yub-Nub ending.
I'd start from Empire and end it the right way.
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If not for Jedi, how would we ever know that it's a trap?
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Ironwood
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I liked all of Jedi, except the Luke/Leia scenes that I thought were badly handled.
It seems to always have been 'in' to hate on the Ewoks, but frankly I've never really understood the hate - They're just primitive wee bears that managed to be a timely distraction. It didn't actually MATTER all that much.
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Don't you dare be dissing Yub-Nub. The only bad thing about Jedi was how much more Lucas fucked it up in the Special Edition than the other 2. It's a great movie.
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Merusk
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Pet hate of mine is people raging on about how much they 'hated' Return of the Jedi and how only cool ppl like up to ESB.
Fuck off, it was fucking great. Ewoks and all. Man enough to admit it.
Comparing Return to the prequels? Take your head out of your ass.
+1 It's the weakest of the OT but nowhere near prequel levels of suck. +1 But then I fall behind the Ewok Line. I also find no reason to get neckbeardy and "OMG CHILDHOOD RAPE" over the prequels. Guess what, the audience they were aimed at loved them. The internet needs to grow up some day. |
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Who exactly is the audience the prequels were aimed at?
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Lakov_Sanite
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Who exactly is the audience the prequels were aimed at?
5 year olds. |
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Samwise
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Who exactly is the audience the prequels were aimed at?
5 year olds.  |
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Malakili
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Guess what, the audience they were aimed at loved them.
Lots of people like schlock. But it's still schlock. |
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Who exactly is the audience the prequels were aimed at?
WUA. |
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Don't you dare be dissing Yub-Nub. The only bad thing about Jedi was how much more Lucas fucked it up in the Special Edition than the other 2. It's a great movie.
Agreed. ROTJ is a great movie, we were just spoiled by ESB. Come on, Jabba the Hutt, Lando, Leia in a bikini, The Emperor, Admiral Ackbar, and Luke defeating Vader? The Ewoks were a weak line in the movie for sure, but no movie is perfect. |
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HaemishM
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The Ewoks were a really obvious pandering to kids and toy marketing, and even as a 12-year old kid, I recognized that. It was way too cutesy for the tenseness of the narrative it was paired with (the destruction of the Empire and the salvation of the galaxy). There's comedic relief and then there's just pandering and Ewoks were pandering. It undercut everything that was happening on the Death Star dramatically speaking.
RotJ was still better than any of the prequels.
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Lakov_Sanite
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"Don't Anakin! I have the high ground!" 5 year olds.
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Merusk
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Who exactly is the audience the prequels were aimed at?
5 year olds. Yes. Early results are in: The 40+ crowd on the internet is going to hate JJ Abrams' movies, too. Shocker. |
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Samwise
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Who exactly is the audience the prequels were aimed at?
5 year olds. Yes.    Seriously, if you evaluate them as movies for little kids, they're even worse. |
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Lakov_Sanite
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Seriously, if you evaluate them as movies for little kids, they're even worse.
My point exactly. |
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Because you're kids? Wait, no, you're not. The kids I've known loved them, boys ages 4-11. As for picking out those scenes, kids aren't as fragile as the west coast continually believes. Some are, but they hide their faces. E.T. was pretty terrifying to young kids, too. http://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/1p9q9c/to_the_redditors_that_were_kids_when_the_new_star/F13 is old men bitching about their childhoods on this. Were they good movies? No. Did they do it for the audience they were aiming for? Yes. |
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Rendakor
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I was like 16 when Phantom Menace came out, and I thought it was shit.
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Khaldun
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Considering that the original Star Wars delighted both kids and adults, and that one of the major changes in popular culture since 1977 has been that filmmakers have discovered that delighting kids and adults with the same film or TV series is actually quite possible, saying that the prequels were deeply beloved by boys 4-12 and that this makes complaining about them stupid is really missing the point. Quite aside from whether it's true that boys who were 4-12 at the initial theatrical release were in fact 100% satisfied, if there was ever an intellectual property that could, should and has managed to accomplish the no-longer-mystifying art of making adults and children happy at the same time, it's Star Wars.
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Numtini
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Star Wars was definitely not a children's film. Kids (me among them) went and loved it, but it was something that grabbed the entire culture.
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