SW - Episode 7: Mary Sue wakes up but there's no coffee. RAGE.

[Malakili]

Yeah, they laid it on a little heavy with making Anakin kill a bunch of children with no remorse. 

[Lakov_Sanite]

He killed younglings, no children. Durr, don't be such a nerfherder.

[Pezzle]

Every Abrams movie I have seen was shit.  The TV stint was also shit.  Stop giving him money.

[Reg]

Oh I can see it's going to be fun waiting for this movie to come out.

[Ironwood]

I'm going to be passing the time by grafting sabers to my elbows.

[Phildo]

Just your elbows?  Think of all the great fanfiction waiting to happen.  Or probably already has, but I'll be damned if I'm going to be the one to look it up.

[Draegan]

Every Abrams movie I have seen was shit.  The TV stint was also shit.  Stop giving him money.

Both Star Trek movies were better than any Star Trek movie previously made. Except for maybe Khan and the Whale movie.

[Lantyssa]

I'm going to be passing the time by grafting sabers to my elbows.

Think of the whores, man!

[Hoax]

As for picking out those scenes, kids aren't as fragile as the west coast continually believes.  Some are, but they hide their faces.

Come again? I assure you Sam doesn't speak for the entire west coast.

[Ironwood]

That's not what his business card says.

[WayAbvPar]

I am really looking forward to seeing this with my son. He will be right about the same age I was when I saw the original in 1977. Of course, he already knows most of the characters from video games and such, so it won't be quite the sense of wonderment, but he is going to love it. I hope it is watchable for me too.

[Cyrrex]

As long as it has...

- Battles happening in space (ones that don't look like super high res fake video games).
- An evil, evil man with a British accent doing evil things possibly also with a fancier-than-average lightsaber.
- People getting thrown the fuck around by the Force.  Maybe a lightning bolt and a mind trick or two.
- Witty banter aboard the Falcon.
- BELIEVABLE ACTING.
- Plot that is only sorta pants-on-head.

Then it will be watchable.  It'll be better than the prequels by simple virtue of not having George directing the thing and overdoing the CGI and green screens.

That's my guess.

[Hoax]

I hope they lay the fuck off the lightning. Its a really boring thing when everyone uses it all the time. A fight where lightning is being used tends to devolve into an anime/comic two colored beam tug of war fight. Less of that please.

[Ironwood]

Also, the lightning always lands on the saber.  I always wondered why.

[Typhon]

Because the Jedi looks ahead in time a bit and sees where the lightening is going to arc.

Christ, I know nothing about Star Wars and I knew that.  Turn in your card.

[Ironwood]

Nope, watch it again.  Dracula doesn't even move the damn sword.  He just stands there.  It's like they're shooting AT THE SABRE.

It's kinda silly.

Also, when Palpatine did it, shit went all over the place.  ALL OVER LIKE RED HOT SPOOGE.

[eldaec]

I assumed force lightning generates a positive charge and lightsabres carry negative charge.

But I too, could live without it.

[Lantyssa]

Lightning is composed of electrons though, so it's all negative charge arcing through the air.  Lightsabers would have to be proton blades under that theory.  "Eat x-rays, bitch!"

[Nevermore]

Trying to apply physics to Star Wars seems like a fool's errand.

[Abagadro]

Who's the more foolish, the fool applying physics to Star Wars, or the fool who argues with him?

[Samwise]

I just figured it was some D&D type thing where there's some "lightning rod" spell that sufficiently high level Jedis learn as a hard counter to the "lightning bolt" spell.  Because after having that be part of the exciting climax to Jedi it was important to completely trivialize and ruin it in the prequels.  Shame Yoda didn't get around to teaching Luke how to block it or he could have just stood there smirking at the Emperor.

[Nevermore]

Well, Yoda did warn Luke that is training was incomplete.  The next lesson would have been to catch evil lightning in his hands.

[Typhon]

Nope, watch it again.  Dracula doesn't even move the damn sword.  He just stands there.  It's like they're shooting AT THE SABRE.

It's kinda silly.

Also, when Palpatine did it, shit went all over the place.  ALL OVER LIKE RED HOT SPOOGE.

LOL, I concede on this point alone

[Khaldun]

UNLIMITED POWER!!!

[eldaec]

Lightning is composed of electrons though, so it's all negative charge arcing through the air.  Lightsabers would have to be proton blades under that theory.  "Eat x-rays, bitch!"

Based on the similarity between force lightning and actual lightning it is more likely that the lighting user is generating a positive charge that sucks electrons up. In which case the sabre would carry a negative charge.

That was what I assumed was happening, and worked for me as a rationalisation of why Jedi and Sith don't just lightning bolt each other all the damn time.

[Cyrrex]

It should also probably be considered the ultimate display of Force mastery, and something the good guys would shy away from.  Something that only a guy like Palps would, or even could, use against someone.  And it shouldn't be casually blocked by a saber in any event, that just makes it meaningless.

[Malakili]

It smacks of "oh crap, when don't the dark side people just zap jedi with this stuff all the time."  I always thought that Yoda and the Emperor didn't have lightsabers because they were so strong a pitiful little laser sword was pointless.  But in the end Episode 2 (I just threw up typing the words "Episode 2..." oh god it happened again) we for learn it's actually the exact opposite when Yoda and Dooku need to fight with lightsabers.  I hate that scene so much. 

[Margalis]

One of the huge problems with Star Wars is that there is so much of it but so little of it is good, so everything that is good has to become a high-tier concept. If one guy does a cool thing in a movie that cool thing has to later be given a name, show up in games, show up in books....if there is a cool robot in the background of a scene later on that robot has to have a backstory, be part of some alien robot race, etc. "Bounty Hunter" and "Smuggler" have to be playable classes in an MMO.

[Lakov_Sanite]

One of the huge problems with Star Wars is that there is so much of it but so little of it is good, so everything that is good has to become a high-tier concept. If one guy does a cool thing in a movie that cool thing has to later be given a name, show up in games, show up in books....if there is a cool robot in the background of a scene later on that robot has to have a backstory, be part of some alien robot race, etc. "Bounty Hunter" and "Smuggler" have to be playable classes in an MMO.

Exactly, Boba Fett isn't just come guy in armor trying to make a buck collecting bounties, he's from an ancient RACE of warriors and bounty hunters, wearing the tradiional armor of his spartan like people. 

Everything, EVERYTHING outside the original movies is a terrible fan fiction nightmare.

[Ironwood]

Exactly, Boba Fett isn't just come guy in armor trying to make a buck collecting bounties, he's from an ancient RACE of warriors and bounty hunters, wearing the tradiional armor of his spartan like people. 

lol.  You kinda missed the point, I think.

[Bunk]

Exactly, Boba Fett isn't just come guy in armor trying to make a buck collecting bounties, he's from an ancient RACE of warriors and bounty hunters, wearing the tradiional armor of his spartan like people. 

Everything, EVERYTHING outside the original movies is a terrible fan fiction nightmare.

Mandalorians weren't a race, more like a culture. There were members of various species. I'm too ashamed to put this in bigger font.

[Lakov_Sanite]

Exactly, Boba Fett isn't just come guy in armor trying to make a buck collecting bounties, he's from an ancient RACE of warriors and bounty hunters, wearing the tradiional armor of his spartan like people. 

lol.  You kinda missed the point, I think.

Maybe I worded it wrong but what I mean is even the whole mandalorian thing isn't actually in the movies, it's more ridiculous backstory that is not needed, just agreeing with margalis.

[Nevermore]

But it's canon now, since Mandalore was in the Clone Wars cartoon.   

[Ironwood]

Exactly, Boba Fett isn't just come guy in armor trying to make a buck collecting bounties, he's from an ancient RACE of warriors and bounty hunters, wearing the tradiional armor of his spartan like people. 

lol.  You kinda missed the point, I think.

Maybe I worded it wrong but what I mean is even the whole mandalorian thing isn't actually in the movies, it's more ridiculous backstory that is not needed, just agreeing with margalis.

Aha, I see.  The wording threw me off.  In which case, I missed your point entirely !   IRONY!!!

[Sir T]

In his autobiography, Christopher Lee makes it damn clear without saying so because lawyers that he HATED those movies and he hated being in them. And he said that Lucas "knew exactly what he wanted" which you know meant that he thought Lucas was utter shit.

So him standing there "blocking" was probably him in "O.k. I'll stand here like you want because I really don't give a fuck, you ass" mode.

Nope, watch it again.  Dracula doesn't even move the damn sword.  He just stands there.  It's like they're shooting AT THE SABRE.

It's kinda silly.