No Man's Sky

[jakonovski]

I have a feeling this game is now abandoned. No Murray tweets for a week either.

[schild]

Well, he had 2 options:

1. Suicide, like he just committed with his personal career.
2. Or drain the bank accounts and move to a non-extradition country (from wherever he was from).

I'd go with 2.

[Ginaz]

"Collect shit with your shit collecting gun"
"hours of entertainment for you and your wife's son"
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Mz5YPkThOU

[Count Nerfedalot]

I've been curiously nibbling the bait, but the target stream sale price to reel me in is down in the vicinity of $10 now.  I wonder though if all 999 bazillionwtflol planets will have been named by then? 

[Samprimary]

I have a Super Long Comprehensive No Man's Sky primer that I cribbed together as I powered through to max inventory, which is essentially the 'endgame.'

I could post it here. If you like it it can be a featurette or something. The game is so shallow I effectively have it entirely, uh, 'solved.'

[jakonovski]

I've been suspecting something like this. Discoveries might not get saved:

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/4zlqpw/went_back_to_my_starting_planet_and_every/

[Samprimary]

perhaps they made interstellar navigation / mapping as terrible as it was because they had to make sure players couldn't be able to retrace back to their old systems. This from knowing that their system was not and could not actually store all the naming.

[jakonovski]

That's exactly why I felt something was off. If your game in actual fact has a huge, re-nameable universe with a gazillion individual planets, why wouldn't you show them off by using effective mapping? The map is so bad it can't be an accident.

[Samprimary]

i can kind of see that being an effective cause to predict this, because even while every other interface in the game is also bad, the universe travel interface is uniquely horrible and frustrating and seems designed to keep you lost. before, i hadn't given it much thought beyond 'wow ok i guess this part of the game sucks too' but it fits with the theme of everything else in this game being padded with slapdash mechanics that cover for a lot of shallowness and bad design.

[01101010]

I have noticed on many occasions that when you go to upload your discoveries, on the bottom of the screen it will say whether the online services are active or not. I found that odd, but now it makes perfect sense.

[Sir T]

I listened to a TotalBuiscuit Vid a few days ago that I think as done before this released. And he was talking about a simple thing - why did the hype for this game get so huge? His argument is that there is a deep hunger out there for a certain tye of game, that the game industry for whatever reason is not fulfilling

Its basically 2 types of game -

Survival. He gave the example of Day Z, which went huge when it was first launched and spawned a ton of imitators, all of whom are not finished.

Space Sandbox and discovery.

Now some games HAVE scratched on the edges of this and suceeded in some elements - Eve, the X series, Starlancer, Elite D, etc. But somehow none of them have satisfied this gaming itch. Star citizen is anpther game i would think is succeeding in not having a pitchfork waving mob at its door simply because it has the hope of satisfying this itch.

Anyway the vid is here if you want to have a listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCG9YLeIB98

[Morat20]

Hmm. What were those old BBS games? Trade Wars? Solar Empire? I keep feeling that itch. To explore, to get rich, to get better, to build an empire. To make a mark.

Call it a mix of exploration, empire building, crafting, and freedom. But also multiplayer. With good PvP, but not bad PvP.

You could make a pretty good game from some of those, but to scratch all those itches at once?

I think the problem is game makers can't figure out a way to make it all harmonize, so they sort of...try a mix of some of them, and it doesn't work out. It's like a bunch of half-good games thrown into a blender.

I suspect there's going to be a lot of failed attempts before someone manages to find something that really works AND does it with skill.

[patience]

edit: 11 galaxies and they're all the same

Hang on... if I am reading video that right, not only do you get thrown into another galaxy, you get effectively put back to the start of the game, with a broken down ship and with everything broken and needing repair? Holy christmass, I hope you get to keep your precious inventory slots.  

The shitshow ending gets even more trollish than that.

So people can collect Atlas stones which as a mechanic sort of act as an achievement system that guides your progress towards the center of the universe. Each stone comes with flavor text explaining the history of the Galaxy and the alien race that has reached all parts of it.

The last stone which goes on a short diatribe about your journey to getting to the center has this has this little gem in it.

Nothing is real, existence is an imitation of life, a model made by jaded intellects, enslaved to their actuality as I am enslaved to mine.

[edit]

The breadth of an ocean, the depth of a puddle.

You won't find that type of planet in No Man's Sky.

[Samprimary]

ah, the edgiest of existentialist cop-outs

"there is no ending .. because nothing is real lol"

[Rendakor]

This world is an illusion, Exile.

[Kail]

I listened to a TotalBuiscuit Vid a few days ago that I think as done before this released. And he was talking about a simple thing - why did the hype for this game get so huge? His argument is that there is a deep hunger out there for a certain tye of game, that the game industry for whatever reason is not fulfilling

I suspect it's partly because it's a wide open genre that hasn't been well defined yet, so the devs can promise everything and we don't have a reference point to know how it's going to play.  Like MMOs back in the UO/EQ days, the devs can promise whatever they want and our minds can go "WOAH, it's like the ultimate virtual world, they're saying all this amazing shit is going to be there" or whatever because there isn't context for how it's going to play.

When Wildstar was released, we all knew it was going to be WoW in space, so when they said "it'll have XYZ" or "there will be this feature" we kind of knew that it would be sandwiched in around the same gameplay that 90% of the rest of the genre had and nobody flipped out about how revolutionary it was.  So when No Man's Sky talks about having factions or something, people are imagining these huge, deep complex societies and cultures and architecture and so on, because who knows, that might be what it turns out to be.  But if Wildstar talked about it, we all knew it was going to be a bunch of NPCs standing around with exclamation marks over their heads so we could grind up a "reputation" bar, and that no matter what the "factions" did most of the gameplay was still going to just be standing in a field pushing skill buttons on a hotbar.

Like, with No Man's Sky, when the devs say "it's got trading" or "it's got crafting" people don't know how the game plays so they are imagining how it would play out in real life, or look at something like Star Trek or Firefly, and that would be pretty awesome.  But if I announced a new MMO today and said it had trading and crafting, people would imagine a bar filling up while a "shff shff" sound effect plays.

[Lucas]

Nevermind, "shocking interview" with Sean Murray already posted above 

But seriously, plz try adding a game to whatever you have now 

[Draegan]

Someone pm me when this game is cheaper than a happy hour bud light.

[patience]

Drinking Bud Lights? You already like to waste money on things that don't work as advertised. Pull the trigger now.

[Sir T]

It seems that discoveries may not be getting wiped after all. there is a counter thread and the original guy has removed his post (it was up 18 hours ago and he was complaining about getting flames and attacked via his email for asking a question)

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/4zsyx5/psa_your_discoveries_are_not_getting_wiped_after/

Who the hell knows at this point. What a cluster fuck over what is at best a mediocre gather and explore game.

[Draegan]

Drinking Bud Lights? You already like to waste money on things that don't work as advertised. Pull the trigger now.

Who said I was drinking it?

[Lakov_Sanite]

Steam is now officially accepting refunds regardless of playtime for this. I almost feel like it was worth $60 for the lulz I've gotten from it.

[Amarr HM]

I've played 56 hours, I don't know how or why, but I think I'll try look for a refund anyway for a giggle. I actually think I left the game on pause for half of that.

[lesion]

Yeah my initial refund request was denied, but I'm trying again.

[01101010]

Steam is now officially accepting refunds regardless of playtime for this. I almost feel like it was worth $60 for the lulz I've gotten from it.

Holy god. regardless of playtime? That is insane to me.

[Rendakor]

Yeah my initial refund request was denied, but I'm trying again.

Mine was too, with 20ish hours logged. Guess I'll try again.

[apocrypha]

Holy god. regardless of playtime? That is insane to me.

It's an interesting situation because I think you could argue that it would take longer than 2 hours of playtime to fully realise the extent of the fraud involved in the marketing of NMS. And Steam may be recognizing the shit storm of bad publicity surrounding this game and has decided that they don't want to end up lumped into the 'bad guys' category here.

[jakonovski]

The game just really showed its best: I randomly decided to attack a three ship formation in atmosphere. After a few shots only one of them aggroed and the rest continued on their way. The AI ship immediately started flying in circles really close to the ground, sometimes clipping through mountains. I had trouble targeting it because of your ship's minimum altitude. I finally killed it and it exploded on the ground but left no wreckage or other mark. During the whole combat there was a sentinel warning going and threats about sentinel interceptors being deployed, but nothing ever happened. I don't know if those things are even implemented.

It's so...underwhelming. Literally like an early access game on the first week or something.

[Engels]

I tried for a refund as well... denied. People on the reddit thread are saying you have to actually open a support ticket to have it done, but I do not see the option for that. Just their support request interface.

[Rendakor]

Denied again here too. Opening a support ticket requires a separate Steam Support account. Ugh.

[Amarr HM]

I finally killed it and it exploded on the ground but left no wreckage or other mark. During the whole combat there was a sentinel warning going and threats about sentinel interceptors being deployed, but nothing ever happened.

They are actually, but you need to be off planet for them to appear.

Refund denied heh, wasn't holding out any great hope.

[Khaldun]

I don't know why this game makes me sad and Star Citizen makes me laugh.

[schild]

Because we all want this game.

And we all know Star Citizen is a con.

No Man's Sky got closer than anyone has.

[rk47]

[Rendakor]

Is that somewhere on the store page or something? Mine literally got denied again today, despite reddit claims to the contrary.