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Don't really see the upside of this for Disney if true. Unless they simply figured the clash doesn't matter at all. Which it probably doesn't.
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To be fair, before, I'd have given the odds of me seeing BvS on opening weekend to be about 30%. If this is true, the odds dropped to about 5%. I'd rather watch Season 2 and wait a few extra days for BVS.
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Netflix decides the air date for the show not Disney. The reason they are putting it up against BatVSupes is probably a jab at WB for pulling all their movies from Netflix a couple years ago.
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jgsugden
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Even better: New Poster says March 18 release.
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Nice looking teaser, well done.
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eldaec
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EDIT: OK I found my way to a different trailer with no information in it. That one is better.
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Fordel
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Netflix has just been killing it with their original shows the last few years.
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and the gate is like I TOO AM CAPABLE OF SPEECH
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HaemishM
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I'm looking forward to this, too. The first couple of episodes got me hooked.
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I really ought to watch the first season sometime.
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I need to finish it; I think I'm on episode 8. It's a little too rough for the kids to watch and the wife isn't into it, so finding time to watch it isn't easy.
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jgsugden
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Season 1 is the best Marvel Season so far - and I've been a fan of every season of every Marvel show (although Agent Carter has been the show that barely crosses the fan line).
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Really? You hide it well.
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Really? You hide it well.
Subtlty is my middle name. MY MIDDLE FREAKING NAME. |
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Subtlty doesn't start with a "g".
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Subtlty doesn't start with a "g".
Nice try. I know how to spell gubtlty. |
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I really ought to watch the first season sometime.
You really ought to. For me, Daredevil and Jessica Jones have outdone all the other superhero series. I enjoyed them lots and lots. |
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Both are worth watching in the same way Breaking Bad or Dexter were worth watching. It has nothing to do with being superhero series.
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So far I'm about halfway through and I am loving it. Bernthal is easily the best Punisher we've had. Also I was hesitant about Elodie Yung as Elektra but she's handling the part well.
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First four episodes in. This shit is so good. Why can't more shows be this well done.
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First four episodes in. This shit is so good. Why can't more shows be this well done.
Same amount in here and god damn this is the right kind of punisher. |
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Punisher and the actor playing him are superb. Pretty much as good as VDO as Kingpin.
My biggest gripe about this show are the actors and characters of Foggy and Karen. They have no arc. They're not believable and the actors are just not that great. In Jessica Jones, the backup characters of Luke and her young neighbor were lightyears better and more interesting. I have to slog through anything with Karen and Foggy.
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That's because Karen and Foggy are ridiculously good and wholesome people. Very little nuisance, Foggy is Matts wife character, a less shrill version of say the tv wives we see in shows like breaking bad, justified, and sons of anarchy. Foggys a better character but his job is to literally nag Matt into being a normal person and throw a hissy fit when Matt says no. Karen is a good character which I have a hard time pinning down why i don't gel completely with her. Its not entirely because she is salt of the earth type, though that gets annoying but not grating. I think its the weird love triangle potential that I'm just waiting to not happen.
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The wife and I will be watching this at a rate of roughly one a week again, which I'm fine with. First episode was good, I really love the aesthetic. I agree about Karen and Foggy, even on the basis of just that one episode. They're definitely the weakest points in it.
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That's because Karen and Foggy are ridiculously good and wholesome people. Very little nuisance, Foggy is Matts wife character, a less shrill version of say the tv wives we see in shows like breaking bad, justified, and sons of anarchy. Foggys a better character but his job is to literally nag Matt into being a normal person and throw a hissy fit when Matt says no. Karen is a good character which I have a hard time pinning down why i don't gel completely with her. Its not entirely because she is salt of the earth type, though that gets annoying but not grating. I think its the weird love triangle potential that I'm just waiting to not happen.
Great insights, thanks. I agree. The moralizing part of the 2 characters is correct, but they're so weak dramatically that it doesn't work for me as agents guiding Matt's conscience. All Foggy seems to be is a horny alcoholic frat bro who plays an altruistic lawyer because his best friend/wife has an actual conscience, and Karen is... I don't know what. She's had the larger trauma but there's no growth in how she responds or acts. Neither Foggy or Karen seem to have any agency without Matt. For example, S2E1, Karen frets about their finances, but nothing happens. It's a device to show how nice they are but there's no consequences to the characters (that we see). Very comic book I guess. But it seemed the sidekicks and secondary characters in JJ were a lot better. I often fast-forward over the non-DD parts of the story and stay with Stick/Elektra/Punisher arcs. I did that with S1 as well, and it was only Karen's one session with Kingpin's dude in S1 that was noteworthy (and that didn't need any dialogue). |
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I like both Karen and Foggy and think they play their parts in the story well. They are the moral center that keeps Matt grounded and keep him from turning into a Punisher or an Elektra. I think the writers are a little heavy handed with forcing that part on them though. Foggy is a bit too emo with Matt but it's just him trying to protect his friend. They make Karen just do some dumb stuff to put her in peril, but she can take care of herself in some ways. She's just fighting with her past and what she did in season 1.
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jgsugden
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You're making this sound like Sex and the City.
Season 2 was great. A worthy second effort. Slightly ... very slightly ... more tied to the non Netflix MCU.
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I don't see the issue with Karen or Foggy.
There the two normies who desperately want to help their friend, but ultimately can't because they are again, regular ass people.
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Soln
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You might be right. This show is great. Episode 9 was terrific.
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Fordel
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Finished bingeing this. It's great, easily lives up, if not surpasses the first season.
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I liked the second season and Kingpin was even better than in the first season (and Punisher was good too). I have to say that the Hand was the weakest link since
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