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Good lord. Branaugh directs Thor, and now Redford's in the Cap movie. What's next? Derek Jacobi in a vampire movie?
Dame Judi Dench in a Vin Diesel sci-fil film. |
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Lakov_Sanite
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I get the feeling "the winter soldier" is going to have a double meaning in the movie and not just mean the name of the villain.
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~a horrific, dark simulacrum that glares balefully at us, with evil intent.
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Margalis
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I get the feeling "the winter soldier" is going to have a double meaning in the movie and not just mean the name of the villain.
He's actually Snow Job from GI Joe in disguise. |
vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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I get the feeling "the winter soldier" is going to have a double meaning in the movie and not just mean the name of the villain.
He's actually Snow Job from GI Joe in disguise. |
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I get the feeling "the winter soldier" is going to have a double meaning in the movie...
Turns out the Captain looks best in rich vibrant tones, solid colors rather than patterns, and fabrics with refined finishes rather than textured surfaces. |
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jgsugden
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The long preview shown with Thor 3D was pretty darn snazzy. I have very high hopes for this movie.
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Tannhauser
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Yeah, I liked that scene too because you are with Cap, figuring out what is happening. Also shows Cap using his noggin as well as his super abilities.
I'm still trying to wrap my head around Robert Redford being in the film. Dunno why, but it seems like the last thing he'd do.
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I'm afraid this is going to be another evil corporation movie, with a second-rate lex luther.
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I'm afraid this is going to be another evil corporation movie, with a second-rate lex luther.
Right down my alley. Going to take the wife to see this, she loves Captain America. We are going to get a baby sitter and stuff ourselves with overpriced movie snacks and turn off our brains for a couple of hours. It will be great. |
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Pay the bills ?
He's got the skills. |
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Pay the bills ?
He's got the skills. He likes the pills. |
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Have people really forgotten Sneakers? Or, hell The Sting or Butch Cassidy? Sure, Sting and Butch Cassidy are both probably much better films, but this is not exactly left field territory for him.
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jgsugden
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I know he characterized his character as a villain previously, but unless he is the Red Skull in disguise, I predict he'll just be a man in a position of power that is trying to do the right thing... even if it costs a lot of lives. That can be a good role.
Besides, look what they have Glenn Close doing...
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HaemishM
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If it follow the Winter Soldier from the comics, he'll sort of be the Red Skull.
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jgsugden
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That probably should have spoiler tags.
And I would not be so sure it will follow the same storyline that closely.
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Margalis
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I know basically nothing about this movie.
I just saw part of a commercial for it and my first thought was "cool, a movie based on Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance."
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vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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Also removed. Apparently marvel did not release this. |
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Tebonas
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I'll try to get my better half to want to see this this weekend. If that works, I'll keep you posted.
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eldaec
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Saw this tonight.
Disorganised thoughts:
It isn't dark, it isn't really a conspiracy thriller.
It is a boys own adventure set in an 80s action movie.
The action I thought was a step above what they've done before.
But the dialog scenes are slow, flabby, but not outright ridiculous like IM3.
First half promises something different, then you get the reveal, which I admit is pretty awesome in its own way, and from there its explosions all the way.
Was impressed with how captain America and his shield didn't look ridiculous in a modern setting.
Black widow was awesome.
I don't know why the winter soldier is in this - he really didn't need to be.
Falcon was pretty neat.
It is the best of the marvel sequels, but struggles if you put it next to any of the origin stories.
Oh, and for the love of God avoid the 3d.
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jgsugden
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Saw this tonight.
...First half promises something different, then you get the reveal,
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I don't know why the winter soldier is in this - he really didn't need to be... I think these two are connected. When you have a 'big reveal' movie, you have to either hint at the reveal in marketing or put out an alternative selling point. They sold us on the B story to preserve the reveal. |
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Raguel
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I'm pretty disappointed to hear that it's not really a conspiracy thriller. (Not a joke, in case I have to make that plain.) I'm still going to see it on Friday though.
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jgsugden
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I'm pretty disappointed to hear that it's not really a conspiracy thriller. (Not a joke, in case I have to make that plain.) I'm still going to see it on Friday though.
I have not seen it, but from what I hear, it is a conspiracy story, but only for half the movie. The resolution to that aspect occurs earlier than in true conspiracy movies. |
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eldaec
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As you suggest, the first half tries to sell itself as a thriller. But there is no twist.
Considering the plot lacks almost all of the core elements of a thriller, they actually do a decent job on atmosphere for around 40 minutes.
As for the winter soldier, I suspect the explanation is more prosaic, it felt like on each rewrite they realised he was less and less relevant, but they had already committed to a title. His subplot lacks any thematic link to the main plot, and also has no impact on the general direction of events.
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Evildrider
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The guy that plays Winter Soldier got signed for a bunch of movies. My guess is that since Chris Evans is quitting acting after his Marvel deal is up, you are looking at the Cap replacement.
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Tannhauser
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I looked at too many Cap making of/previews and spoiled who the Winter Soldier was.  Still looking forward to it. |
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Evildrider
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Well that's good then. I like Chris Evans as Cap. I had only skimmed a couple articles about him quitting to direct. Glad he clarified it. |
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Merusk
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Yeah, I think his point was, "Um.. I'm not doing this unplanned and spontaneous approach to taking any role thrown at me anymore. I'm going to go in to contracts so I can plan a life outside of acting 24/7"
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jgsugden
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Being Cap as long as his body holds up should give him 3 movies every 6 years for a while and a lot of money - allowing him to do whatever directing he wants and can land.
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