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eldaec
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on: April 10, 2013, 02:08:45 PM

Regular season will end shortly, and traditionally there is a gap before the new season starts up again.

Nonetheless, there must always be a Stark Blood Bowl in F13.

In the past we've played out a slightly less serious business league within the feeder league. This is a good way to try new teams, develop teams for season 8, and just to get more matches played in the feeder league.

For those who haven't taken part before, the D&M is a swiss format league, meaning each set of fixtures are drawn on the basis of matching people with the same approximate score - as such you play more games against people in your own skill bracket. The structure also means we can take any number of participants.

This thread is an interest check for D&M III.

Also post here if you have any views on entry criteria. In the past the D&M has had one entry criteria : team must be in the feeder league (the swiss process takes care of any mismatches). But given the way some of the newer teams struggled in season 7 I'd be open to saying new teams only for this edition if people feel strongly about it.


Basic D&M rules

 DRILLING AND MANLINESS  All matches will be played within the feeder league - to take part your team needs to meet the feeder league rules and get into that league.
 DRILLING AND MANLINESS  One team per coach
 DRILLING AND MANLINESS  Matches and standings will be announced in a thread.
 DRILLING AND MANLINESS  Matches will be determined on a swiss tournament basis.
 DRILLING AND MANLINESS  We'll play out a bunch of rounds depending on how many teams sign up, team with the most points at the end of that time takes the trophy, or a playoff will split a tie.
 DRILLING AND MANLINESS  You can still play other feeder league matches with your D&M trophy team if you want. (never stop playing feeder league)
 DRILLING AND MANLINESS  Winner automatically qualifies for the feeder league masters.

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Reply #1 on: April 10, 2013, 02:14:53 PM

I'm in. I like the idea of fresh teams to start with but I'm not going to argue strongly against existing teams taking part either.

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Reply #2 on: April 10, 2013, 02:43:28 PM

I'd be in with either my Underworld or Chaos Dwarf team.

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Reply #3 on: April 10, 2013, 02:49:15 PM

I think I can swing this.
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Reply #4 on: April 10, 2013, 03:00:39 PM

In, I don't care what team rules we use, new or old.

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Reply #5 on: April 10, 2013, 05:05:19 PM

i'm in if MA is in as long as i can murderfuck whatever nambypamby team he dares to bring.  i have a dusty tv 1250 nurgle team i could throw in the mix, maybe. or a fresh khorne team. don't care about new teams but maybe a tv ceiling to keep things from starting out of hand?  1400?
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Reply #6 on: April 10, 2013, 05:23:14 PM

I'm ok with a TV ceiling 1300/1400

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Reply #7 on: April 10, 2013, 06:07:04 PM

Yes.
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Reply #8 on: April 10, 2013, 06:13:52 PM

Depending on interest, it might actually be a good idea to run a completely vanilla Swiss tourney, to give all interested newcomers a more level experience. I'm fine for either/or, however.

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Reply #9 on: April 10, 2013, 10:45:56 PM

I'm interested!
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Reply #10 on: April 10, 2013, 10:58:16 PM

Up for more Bloodbowl.

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Reply #11 on: April 10, 2013, 11:14:21 PM

I have one crazy idea!   One team of each kind only!  i.e., one dwarf team, one chaos dwarf team, one halfling team.  I like variety.  Who gets to pick what team is left as an exercise for the reader.
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Reply #12 on: April 10, 2013, 11:28:54 PM

I have one crazy idea!   One team of each kind only!  i.e., one dwarf team, one chaos dwarf team, one halfling team.  I like variety.  Who gets to pick what team is left as an exercise for the reader.


lottery with video from IainC  DRILLING AND MANLINESS
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Reply #13 on: April 10, 2013, 11:40:33 PM

That might be Peak Nuffle.   Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?
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Reply #14 on: April 10, 2013, 11:42:34 PM

Agreed with the caveat that we should probably leave out the joke teams.

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Reply #15 on: April 10, 2013, 11:46:19 PM

Highlander format can work, but you'd have to have some kind of randomised draw to determine who gets what, and which teams are eligible. Perhaps stick to Tier 0 & Tier 1 teams only.

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Reply #16 on: April 11, 2013, 01:22:08 AM

Interested: check
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Reply #17 on: April 11, 2013, 02:51:39 AM

I'm interested.  Whatever is decided upon I'll go with, but as far as I care, if we did go with all vanilla teams, we should make a more active drive to attract new players as well.  As far as Highlander styling goes, depending on interest level, we may not have enough teams to accommodate every player without touching the tier 2/3s.  In a neutral fresh environment, Halflings are actually pretty spry  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Reply #18 on: April 11, 2013, 04:42:14 AM

I'm a fan of 1 player per race. Lottery me!
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Reply #19 on: April 11, 2013, 04:43:36 AM

I'd do a lottery video if you like.

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Reply #20 on: April 11, 2013, 04:47:32 AM

I tend to think highlander would be a better for a gimmick league than this.

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Reply #21 on: April 11, 2013, 06:25:30 AM

Of course I'm in.

I like the randomization and 1 side only ideas, but it doesn't seem appropriate for the D&M tourney, which has always been a pretty straightforward tournament that gives people a chance to use their Feeder League teams, and maybe develop them for future use in the regular season.

Plus, I always run the gimmick tourneys.   Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #22 on: April 11, 2013, 10:54:32 AM

I tend to think highlander would be a better for a gimmick league than this.

This is a good point. D&M does have its history, and the whole Masters feeder thing.

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Reply #23 on: April 11, 2013, 11:19:56 PM

I don't usually play side leagues, but I'll chime in to point out that assigning teams by lottery would be a waste of a golden opportunity. Races should be drafted in order of f13 power ranking (noobs first), OR set it up so that each coach is assigned a race by their competitors somehow.
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Reply #24 on: April 11, 2013, 11:41:09 PM

I'm interested in the league, what ever rules it may follow.

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Reply #25 on: April 11, 2013, 11:47:08 PM

OR set it up so that each coach is assigned a race by their competitors somehow.

But Andydavo's not around anymore to get halflings.  cry
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Reply #26 on: April 12, 2013, 12:05:55 AM

*has no interest in playing new team aside from humans but then again humans suck. mmm. Maybe skaven?*

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Reply #27 on: April 12, 2013, 12:22:53 AM

I don't usually play side leagues, but I'll chime in to point out that assigning teams by lottery would be a waste of a golden opportunity. Races should be drafted in order of f13 power ranking (noobs first), OR set it up so that each coach is assigned a race by their competitors somehow.

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Reply #28 on: April 12, 2013, 05:54:19 AM

humans suck.

Humans won the D&M II and Master's I tournaments here.  They definitely don't suck.

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Reply #29 on: April 12, 2013, 06:08:12 AM

humans suck.

Humans with Pass Block won the D&M II and Master's I tournaments here.  They definitely don't suck.

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Reply #30 on: April 12, 2013, 09:34:29 AM

I'm in, though I'm not interested in random teams.

I'll probably play either Pro Elves or maybe Humans if I can bring in a TV 1100 team from another league.  Might also play a fresh Undead or Nurgle team if I come up with a naming scheme I like.
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Reply #31 on: April 12, 2013, 02:16:12 PM

The random teams is a funny idea, but I do think that's more of a goofy-side-tournament thing. That said, I don't care enough to fuss over it!

I'll play, because I hate myself. Somewhere Ingmar just made a >< face.

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Reply #32 on: April 12, 2013, 02:18:08 PM

I have one crazy idea!   One team of each kind only!  i.e., one dwarf team, one chaos dwarf team, one halfling team.  I like variety.  Who gets to pick what team is left as an exercise for the reader.

I'm in if this is the theme. Or for whatever side league is generated with this gimmick instead if we go that route.
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Reply #33 on: April 12, 2013, 02:28:27 PM

I have an idea of how to do the Highlander theme so I'll run that as a separate gimmick league after the main league is done if people want to do that. Then the D&M can be a general feeder-league event like it always has been.

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Reply #34 on: April 14, 2013, 03:28:37 PM

I bumped the PC/console gaming blood bowl thread yesterday. Some of you should go post in it.

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