Pacific Rim

[Khaldun]

http://io9.com/5969657/yet-another-sexy-reason-why-robots-will-replace-humans-%5Bnsfw%5D

[Ingmar]

Scored to new Kenny Loggins song: "Playing With the Droids".

I... I hate you.

[Venkman]

 

Still don't get the Neural Net thing. Sure you had the binars from thet ST:TNG episode where they loaded their civilizations entire internet into the ship's computer. Sure ok kinda can go there. You also have The Beak from that Pineas & Ferb episode where Ferb is the legs and Phineas the torso. But as smart as that show is, that was a very kid-centric approach to it.

Here, it makes no even semi-logical sense to have two humans playing the role of a single humanoid robot.

But then, if this was actually an argument about giant robots, I wouldn't put them just on two feet anyway. That horse pic from the last page makes a whole heck of a lot more sense. And you can put a huge ass BFG on that rather than the stupid Real Steel like punching this film seems to be featuring.

[Ratman_tf]

Still don't get the Neural Net thing. Sure you had the binars from thet ST:TNG episode where they loaded their civilizations entire internet into the ship's computer. Sure ok kinda can go there. You also have The Beak from that Pineas & Ferb episode where Ferb is the legs and Phineas the torso. But as smart as that show is, that was a very kid-centric approach to it.

Here, it makes no even semi-logical sense to have two humans playing the role of a single humanoid robot.

But then, if this was actually an argument about giant robots, I wouldn't put them just on two feet anyway. That horse pic from the last page makes a whole heck of a lot more sense. And you can put a huge ass BFG on that rather than the stupid Real Steel like punching this film seems to be featuring.

I didn't make the movie, but my kneejerk rationalizations are:

The big robots require two people in a neural net acting as right/left hemispheres because that's how the robot gets so quick. One person can't control the whole shebang at once, and conventional controls are too slow.

These Kaiju are supposed to have acid for blood. I would not be surprised if bullets and explosions break their skin and send acidic chunks of monster flying everywhere, increasing property damage and casualties. The solution is to beat them to death with giant robot fists. 

Just to put those two ideas out there.

[Lakov_Sanite]

It may be because I'm drunk right now but  will fucking nut punch anyone trying to make sense of what is going to be an awesomely stupid monster movie.

[Teleku]

The duo pilot thing is basically them just running with Evangelion.  Instead of needing a pilot and his/hers dead mother inside the robot to operate it, they just need two very different human pilots.

[Venkman]

It may be because I'm drunk right now but  will fucking nut punch anyone trying to make sense of what is going to be an awesomely stupid monster movie.

Aww come on, that's the best time to rationalize it!

I personally don't need it to be realistic. I just want it to make sense in the context of the movie. I'm fine with Flux Capacitors and Mr Fusion and transwarp drive and shit, as long as there's a foundation for it.

Ratman's point about acid blood makes sense. I had to look up Teleku's Evangelions. I'll take both explanations.

Just as long as it's more than just a plot device like Father mike said earlier (Character A losing Character B stuff).

[Ratman_tf]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FfB09Wie6yk

[Ingmar]

It may be because I'm drunk right now but  will fucking nut punch anyone trying to make sense of what is going to be an awesomely stupid monster movie.

Pretty sure that's a Bloodworth. 

[rattran]

These Kaiju are supposed to have acid for blood. I would not be surprised if bullets and explosions break their skin and send acidic chunks of monster flying everywhere, increasing property damage and casualties. The solution is to beat them to death with giant robot fists. 

This is as silly as the 'Clerics don't use edged weapons so they don't draw blood' Hit something hard and you get plenty of blood and fluids. I just want to see the monsters rampage through TokyoLA. Logic for why things happen would be nice, but not really seen since original Godzilla in kaiju.

[Ingmar]

This is as silly as the 'Clerics don't use edged weapons so they don't draw blood'

Derail: silly or not, it was based in historical "fact" as this guy was alleged to have used a club instead of a sword so he wouldn't draw blood: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odo,_Earl_of_Kent

[Sheepherder]

The caliph was captured and forced to watch as his citizens were murdered and his treasury plundered. According to most accounts, the caliph was killed by trampling. The Mongols rolled the caliph up in a rug, and rode their horses over him, as they believed that the earth was offended if touched by royal blood.

[Samprimary]

I Am Mad About Unrealistic Walking Robots, They Do Not Make Sense, I Would Like To Bring Attention To My Previous Treatise On The Subject Regarding The Viability of Battlemechs

*gets punched in the face by the entire group of people gaily skipping to the theater for Pacific Rim*

[MahrinSkel]

It's Giant Robots punching out Cthulhu.  Fuck off with your realism, if they're going to jump the shark, all we ask is that they do it with *style*.

--Dave

[Merusk]

Giant robots bother me far less than the need for a two-pilot system that screams "Contrived plot device so the hero has a moment of anguish and failure when partner one dies, only to be redeemed by pairing-up with rival/ love interest to kick ass in the final act!"

[Teleku]

Yeah, if this movie sucks, it will be for completely different reasons than giant walking robots.

[dd0029]

Yeah, if this movie sucks, it will be for completely different reasons than giant walking robots.

The most likely problem is not enough giant walking robots.

[Tannhauser]

Giant robots bother me far less than the need for a two-pilot system that screams "Contrived plot device so the hero has a moment of anguish and failure when partner one dies, only to be redeemed by pairing-up with rival/ love interest to kick ass in the final act!"

That's completely outrageous.

[Merusk]

See, that's the EXACT movie I had in mind.  Though at least they had the excuse of 1) Top Gun school using F-14s and 2) the F14 being a two seat plane.

One is the plot being driven by the tech, the other is the reuse of a plot to drive the tech.

[Teleku]

To be fair, should we ever deploy giant mech robots (heh), I'm sure they'd have a full crew like a tank to operate (and that might have been a better way to go for this movie, frankly).

[Lakov_Sanite]

I will point out not every robot in the movie uses two pilots, some use only one, another uses three.  This doesn't sound like it matters but at least in that world they "could" use one pilot but they found some reason why two would be better for a particular mech, which is fine to me. 

[Simond]

You need two souls to synch to create the AT field, natch.

[UnSub]

You need two souls to synch to create the AT field, natch.

I hear that emotionally damaged children work the best.

[Venkman]

Giant robots bother me far less than the need for a two-pilot system that screams "Contrived plot device so the hero has a moment of anguish and failure when partner one dies, only to be redeemed by pairing-up with rival/ love interest to kick ass in the final act!"

That's completely outrageous.

Yea, but where does it end?

5?


25?


 

[tazelbain]

If this movie is a remake of Top Gun there isn't going to be a symbol large enough.

This could be whole new genre, 80s movies re-imaged as over-the-top Sci Fi CGI-fests.

[Shannow]

If this movie is a remake of Top Gun there isn't going to be a symbol large enough.

This could be whole new genre, 80s movies re-imaged as over-the-top Sci Fi CGI-fests.

 OMG. 

Let the thread derail begin!

I'm thinking Breakfast Club...on a spaceship, with aliens!

[shiznitz]

Except the whiny teens are the breakfast for the aliens.

[Lantyssa]

The Lost Boys!

Oh, wait...

[Merusk]

Ferris Beuller's Day Off - Ferris is a wiseass can't-lose alien skipping his invasion training to have a last day of partying on Earth before it's destroyed.

16 Candles - Nobody understands poor Molly. Caught in the middle, suffering embarrassment after embarrassment from her out-of-touch family who forget the biggest day of her life: her release from the hellish nightmare all creche-born are forced to endure before joining the swarm.

[DraconianOne]

I'm thinking Breakfast Club...on a spaceship, with aliens!

Star Wars Tales #19.... "The Rebel Club"

[Teleku]

Bleh, I watched the breakfast club recently when I saw it on TV.  First time since my childhood (from which I have some fond memories of it), and holy god it was bad. I wanted to kill every single cast member.

[Merusk]

I agree as The Breakfast Club certainly hasn't stood the test of time for me, either.

Watched 16 Candles and Pretty in Pink recently and still enjoyed them, though.  Daughter laughed pretty often at 16 Candles, which says all I need to know about it.

[Ingmar]

I never cared at all for The Breakfast Club, despite the fact that Anthony Michael Hall essentially plays my clone. Most of my friends of the same age are mostly like HOW CAN YOU NOT RELATE TO THAT MOVIE IT IS PERFECT but it never did anything for me.

Now, Office Space... that shit is real.

[UnSub]

I'm thinking Breakfast Club...on a spaceship, with aliens!

Except the whiny teens are the breakfast for the aliens.

And with a slight rework, it could also be an "Alien" remake. Justin Timberlake replaces Harry Dean Stanton! Mila Kunis replaces Sigourney Weaver! The cat is pure CGI!

[Venkman]

I never cared at all for The Breakfast Club, despite the fact that Anthony Michael Hall essentially plays my clone. Most of my friends of the same age are mostly like HOW CAN YOU NOT RELATE TO THAT MOVIE IT IS PERFECT but it never did anything for me.

Now, Office Space... that shit is real.

Heh the funny things you learn from random comments. He was my clone too. I didn't like the movie much at the time, but did years later. It's not that awesome or anything, but it is kinda our generation's Grease I guess.

And yes on Office Space.