Disney buying Lucasfilm

[Ratman_tf]

John Carter was ok, but not special or awesome, which is what I wanted. :(

And Dejah Thoris being a scientist, warrior and princess seemed like she had too many jobs.

Complain to Edgar Rice Burroughs.

It's like bitching that Doc Savage can do everything. It's the pulps, you know? Pulps may have bred nerd culture, but nerd culture doesn't seem to understand the logic of pulps.

I've only read the first story in the John Carter collection I've got. Was Dejah Thoris so multitalented in the other stories?

[Khaldun]

Kinda.

So was John Carter except for the scientist bit. Burroughs tended to go for characters who could do almost anything. Jane wasn't just a useless sack of helpless tits waiting for a rescue, and Dejah could pretty much fight her way out of shit right alongside John Carter. I don't think she was quite so much the scientist as in this one--the scientists in Burroughs were almost all White Martians--but she knew a lot about Barsoomian tech.

[Tannhauser]

Another JC movie fan here.  Dunno why it failed.  Dejah Thoris haunts my dreams!  Also enjoyed the story and the Earth scenes are kind of a framing device.

Back to SW, just watched MI:3 Ghost Protocol with Brad Bird directing.  Fine popcorn action film.  Bird's talented, haven't seen Toy Story 3 yet.
Tom Cruise may be a wingnut, but he still brings his tremendous action hero chops. 

[Furiously]

Another JC movie fan here.  Dunno why it failed. 

Because the first hour was a snorefest. The traci lords version was more exciting because I was wondering when she would show boobs.

[Venkman]

Not everything popular is quality

True, but only if you buy into some defined quality scale.

[UnSub]

So...you guys hate minorities? 

Only when their beliefs and behaviour differ from the rest of ours.

[Nayr]

Drew Karpyshyn would have been a better pick, writing Star Wars novels made him a bestseller.

I missed this line. Karpyshyn is an absolutely awful author. He can write for games, but his novels are terrible terrible terrible.

I've read a few of his novels. I liked them.

And the guy would not be a New York Times bestselling author if everybody shared your poor opinion.

Anyone shitting on arndt for toy story or sunshine can fuck right off.

And anyone thinking an EU author should be involved in any way should know they have a bad opinion and should feel bad.

Drew fucking Karpyshyn. Jesus fucking Christ on a stick.

Yeah, up yours too, buddy.

George Lucas is retiring(with 4.5 billion bucks for selling Lucasfilm, and everybody giving him hell over the Prequel Trilogy, it's no wonder.)

Meaning the new Trilogy is no different than Expanded Universe material.

As for Toy Story 3 being a kids movie - what do you think Star Wars was?

Something rated higher than PG, that's for sure.

Star Wars is full of pretty gruesome violence.

In The Phantom Menace, Darth Maul got cut in half at the waist and fell to his doom.

In Attack of the Clones, Mace Windu decapitated Jango Fett.

In Revenge of the Sith, Obi Wan cut off Anakin's legs and he got burned alive by a pool of lava. And they showed Anakin murdering children, along with every Jedi in the order being shot in the back by their own men.

Throughout the series in general, people are frequently being dismembered, electrocuted, impaled, strangled to death, and killed in other creative ways.

None of which is stuff that Disney would want shown in anything they have their mitts on. If you notice, Phil Coulson was the only person shown to die in the Avengers, and that was just a stabbing probably due to being written in before Disney got into it.

[Sir T]

I've read a few of his novels. I liked them.

And the guy would not be a New York Times bestselling author if everybody shared your poor opinion.

You really want us to drag out the utter shit that's billed as "New York Times bestselling authors"

Yeah, up yours too, buddy.

George Lucas is retiring(with 4.5 billion bucks for selling Lucasfilm, and everybody giving him hell over the Prequel Trilogy, it's no wonder.)

And the utter shit that was Indy 4, which finally made the people defending him shut the hell up

Something rated higher than PG, that's for sure.

Star Wars is full of pretty gruesome violence.

In The Phantom Menace, Darth Maul got cut in half at the waist and fell to his doom.

That's what you call gruesome violence? The guy didn't even bleed. You might as well call Twilight violent. hey were ripping heads off in the final battlewith no blood seen as well. Afte rthe endless smooching and long eye contact.

In Attack of the Clones, Mace Windu decapitated Jango Fett.

See above

In Revenge of the Sith, Obi Wan cut off Anakin's legs and he got burned alive by a pool of lava. And they showed Anakin murdering children, along with every Jedi in the order being shot in the back by their own men.

See above. And it was all shit.

[murdoc]

Revenge of the Sith is the only PG-13 Star Wars movie. The same rating as all the Pirates of the Caribbean movies which were, you know - Disney.

[Abagadro]

Oh god, we've reached SirBrucing level in a Star Wars thread.

[Margalis]

The prequels were kids movies. If they had some gore in them that doesn't make them not kids movies, it just means they have inappropriate content for a kids movie.

Every time the prequels come up the defense is "these movies aren't for you - they are for moronic toddlers."

[eldaec]

I'm going to be pedantic and say they aren't kids movies, they are intended as whole family movies.

It anyway doesn't change the reasons around why they are so god awful. The 'They aren't for you' argument is just as dumb applied to Star Wars as when Kevin Smith tried it for his terrible movies.

[UnSub]

The prequels were kids movies.

Unlike the originals, which were for mature, sophisticated adults. 

[tgr]

The prequels have shit which would insult a 7 year old, and they have shit which isn't suitable for kids, i.e. it sucks for both audiences. vOv

[Nevermore]

In The Phantom Menace, Darth Maul got cut in half at the waist and fell to his doom.

By 'fell to his doom' you mean 'and then he got better', right?  Because the latter is exactly what happened if you include the EU.

[Abagadro]

Wait, what?

[Nevermore]

The Clone Wars animated series brought him back.

[Venkman]

The EU is replete with soap opera-esque they-didn't-really-die. Heck, ccording to Dark Empire, Palpatine had more Spaarti chambers to keep rezing into more bodies than Voldemort had horcruxes.

Revenge of the Sith is the only PG-13 Star Wars movie. The same rating as all the Pirates of the Caribbean movies which were, you know - Disney.

In that vein they'd probably have made ESB PG-13 if the rating existed then. RoTJ was tamer.

The point still stands though that all of the Star Wars movies were family-with-kids movies. Yea sure an argument could be made that Toy Story, Wall-e and others were more kid-focused. But that probably only holds true if you say animation=kids.

Of course in that case, Appleseed disagrees

[Ratman_tf]

I love how Lucas uses the "They're just for kids!" excuse when anyone has any criticism towards the prequels. Like they were direct to DVD Disney sequels.
Hm. Maybe Iago can show up in Episode VII?

[Lakov_Sanite]

Make no mistake, the next movies will not be geared towards young kids. They will want to cash in on the generation that watched the prequels, clone wars and have been subjected to star wars since then, which are now in mid/late teens.  An avengers type tone fits best, nothing "grimdark" but also not little orphan annie.

[Yegolev]

[Merusk]

Wait wait wait.

You guys area all missing the important part.

SirT confessed to watching the last Twilight movie and paying enough attention to reference it.

[Ironwood]

When did Maul come back in the Clone Wars ?

I missed that ep.

[Merusk]

Somewhere around Season 3.  They played it up quite a bit at the time.  He's got his own story line going on right now on Mandalore.  The son's stoked.

He's got these ridiculous quasi-Grievous legs going on, though.

[Paelos]

So SirT is a Twihard. Good stuff.

[Ironwood]

Somewhere around Season 3.  They played it up quite a bit at the time.  He's got his own story line going on right now on Mandalore.  The son's stoked.

He's got these ridiculous quasi-Grievous legs going on, though.

Dark Forces, Jedi Knight one had a Sith that had no legs and flew about on a ring. 

That was totally fucking weird.

[Pennilenko]

So...you guys hate minorities? 

No, just hipsters.

[HaemishM]

Somewhere around Season 3.  They played it up quite a bit at the time.  He's got his own story line going on right now on Mandalore.  The son's stoked.

He's got these ridiculous quasi-Grievous legs going on, though.

I... welp, you just killed my desire to ever watch the Clone Wars series.

[Ironwood]

I like it.  It's...what it should have been.

[eldaec]

Somewhere around Season 3.  They played it up quite a bit at the time.  He's got his own story line going on right now on Mandalore.  The son's stoked.

He's got these ridiculous quasi-Grievous legs going on, though.

Dark Forces, Jedi Knight one had a Sith that had no legs and flew about on a ring. 

That was totally fucking weird.

That fight was pretty cool - felt good to strike a blow for Newton's third law.

[01101010]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GMNm0-0-Ko

/fin

[koro]

Somewhere around Season 3.  They played it up quite a bit at the time.  He's got his own story line going on right now on Mandalore.  The son's stoked.

He's got these ridiculous quasi-Grievous legs going on, though.

Uggggh.

This was originally in some "What if?" Star Wars comic thing about ten years or so ago, where Maul came back with those weird robot legs and went around looking for revenge on Obi-Wan. I think he ended up going to Tatooine, killing Watto, and then he and Obi-Wan dueled and Obi-Wan killed him again.

It was fucking retarded, and I can't believe they actually made Crazy Legs Darth Maul a thing.

[DraconianOne]

Somewhere around Season 3.  They played it up quite a bit at the time.  He's got his own story line going on right now on Mandalore.  The son's stoked.

He's got these ridiculous quasi-Grievous legs going on, though.

Season 4, episode 22. His brother, Savage Opress (voiced by Clancy motherfuckin' Brown) turned up in Season 3.

I like the Clone Wars cartoons. They entertain. They're also no sillier than fucking midichlorians so that's fine too. They take a huge node from the Clone Wars comics which were great. As for Maul having cybernetic legs... guess that makes him more machine than man. I wonder if that's ever happened in Star Wars before?

[Ratman_tf]

I like it.  It's...what it should have been.

I liked what episoded I've watched, but I think it also suffers from rehashing the same old tropes because it's kind of locked in storytelling stasis. Anakin will tease about his dark side, but they'll never have him go over, because that doesn't happen until Sith. The Clone soldiers will have little bits where they question their loyalty, but never go balls out because they have to be loyal for Order 66. Etc.

[eldaec]

The entire republic army not wiping out their commanders and anakin not turning into an incarnation of evil still leaves quite a bit of room for storytelling.